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13 [00:07:10] <bit1> Hi, I've solved my python problem, reinstalling debconf and another python packages.
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47 [00:21:55] <nvz> my father is using firefox-esr on jessie and is getting a message saying vetfriends.com is down for maint i checked the site from here and its up and i had him try accessing it by ip to rule out dns and clear cache idk why he is unable to access this site.
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50 [00:22:52] <th0r> nvz, can he get to it using another browser?
51 [00:24:26] <nvz> he says chromium doesnt work either
52 [00:25:17] <th0r> nvz, it is unlikely, but it might be that the isp is blocking it. They sometimes subscribe to a blacklist that will once in a while go awry
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54 [00:25:38] <th0r> if he pings it, does it return an ip address?
55 [00:26:06] <th0r> nvz, the ping itself might fail, but it should at least return an ip showing that dns is working
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57 [00:26:36] <LtL> nvz: VetFriends.com down for maintenance. Will return in a few minutes. Thank you.
58 [00:26:59] <LtL> nvz: thats what i get
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60 [00:27:26] <nvz> it works for me on my orange pi with android
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63 [00:28:45] <nvz> im loading the page fine if its doing it for you too its not an isolated issue
64 [00:28:45] <mtn> down here for me, too
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67 [00:30:53] <nvz> i wonder whats going on i'll have to try it from debian later when i reboot the pi with the other os
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69 [00:31:16] <LtL> nvz: clear your cache
70 [00:31:31] <nvz> if youre all using debian and im on android maybe its debian specific somehow
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72 [00:31:54] <nvz> it cant be my cache when you all have the issue
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75 [00:32:29] <nvz> i just installed this h3droid today and installed the browser im using less than an hour ago and now is the first time i went to the site
76 [00:32:37] <nvz> so my cache is clean
77 [00:33:07] <LtL> nvz: odd, its loads on iphone
78 [00:33:23] <LtL> firefox, ios
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88 [00:37:39] <nvz> i dont understand how a site loading can be a debian specific issue
89 [00:37:58] <nvz> its not like its silverlight or something weird
90 [00:38:21] <LtL> f'ing strange
91 [00:38:38] <mtn> nvz, it isn't. I am using arch and it is down for me, too
92 [00:38:48] <LtL> whew
93 [00:38:57] <nvz> its loading now reported on android and ios
94 [00:39:20] <nvz> maybe its checking user agent?
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99 [00:39:46] <LtL> nvz: but why
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102 [00:40:23] <nvz> idk doesnt make sense its just a simole military site for buying hats and checking up on people you served with
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105 [00:41:53] <th0r> nvz, interesting, my chrome on debian says it is down, but my chromium on a raspberry pi loads it just fine
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107 [00:42:27] <nvz> yes its very strange
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110 [00:43:09] <nvz> its got me wanting to boot into debian to try figure it out and contact the site admin
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115 [00:44:34] <nvz> i'll be back in a minute im gonna put the card in with the debian bootloader and restart
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163 [01:04:03] <nvz> LtL: mtn so far i tried xombrero and that site works im waiting on firefox to load.. its gonna be hard to figure this out if i cant reproduce the issue
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165 [01:05:10] <th0r> nvz, I am running raspbian via vnc, so I have one screen with chromium AND firefox displaying the page, and another screen with both chrome and firefox failing
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172 [01:06:36] <nvz> th0r: so its working on rasbian and not on debian youre saying?
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174 [01:07:00] <Roook> replaced-url
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176 [01:07:05] <ryouma> hmm, fluxbox will not run in wayland?
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178 [01:08:35] <nvz> im not just interested cause my dad has a membership to this site, this is the strangest f'n issue ive ever seen.. its worth figuring out what the issue is just out of sheer curiousity and avoiding this kinda issue
179 [01:08:37] <th0r> nvz,right....I can post screenshots if you like
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181 [01:09:53] <nvz> th0r: na on this pi screenshots are cumbersome
182 [01:10:02] <nvz> thats why i was using h3droid, debian is slow on the opi lite
183 [01:10:02] <nvz> i use mostly console when in debian
184 [01:10:18] <th0r> nvz, I run xfce on everything, so screenshots are a snap <smile>
185 [01:10:49] <nvz> it seems like its loading here on stretch orangepi lite
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187 [01:11:15] <nvz> seems like firefox is using tcp/cp
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190 [01:12:08] <nvz> dpkg tcp/cp is telecomunication protocol over carrier pigeon
191 [01:12:08] <dpkg> nvz: okay
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194 [01:12:52] <nvz> yes it loaded in firefox.. so idk what the issue is
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198 [01:13:11] <nvz> th0r: same inet connection on both cases for you?
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201 [01:13:45] <nvz> i cant reproduce the issue on the opi lite using stretch or h3droid
202 [01:14:15] <th0r> nvz, I am going over the same private network...through the same gateway to the internet
203 [01:14:26] <th0r> nvz, I have only one way out of here <smile>
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206 [01:14:48] <th0r> trying to figure out how to change user agent in either firefox or chrome
207 [01:15:19] <nvz> seems like we ruled out dns, cache, browser, os, isp, etc
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209 [01:15:40] <nvz> it only happens on x86 based linux
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213 [01:16:00] <th0r> nvz, yup....everything here should be the same. I use 209.244.0.3 for dns on everything, and static private ip addresses.
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216 [01:16:07] <nvz> armhf linux it works
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219 [01:16:46] <nvz> if i could reproduce the issue i could try things like user agent strings
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221 [01:17:12] <cef> is ipv6 off?
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223 [01:17:41] <nvz> th0r: can you get past it on a machine that doesnt work by telling the site youre running windows or something?
224 [01:18:01] <nvz> hmm.. ipv6..
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226 [01:18:25] <cef> cos if it is and ipv6 is blocked/dropped upstream, it'll take a while to time out.
227 [01:18:49] <nvz> no the issue is vetfriends.com is displaying a down for maint page
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230 [01:19:03] <nvz> but only in x86 linux browsers
231 [01:19:18] <nvz> its not timing out
232 [01:19:26] <Dagger> and vetfriends.com doesn't even have an AAAA record
233 [01:19:39] <Dagger> stop blaming v6 for everything :/
234 [01:19:59] <nvz> we're at a loss for any explaination
235 [01:20:02] <th0r> nvz, here is the useragent info...replaced-url
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237 [01:20:34] <th0r> nvz, still trying to find an easy way to change the useragent
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239 [01:20:57] <nvz> th0r: there is user agent switcher addons
240 [01:21:17] <th0r> nvz, yeah...checking into that now
241 [01:21:42] <nvz> i'll try changing to x86 ua on here see if it causes the issue
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244 [01:23:37] <th0r> nvz, changed the useragent in FIREFOX to chrome on windows, and the page loads
245 [01:24:10] <nvz> we can discuss it futher in #debian-offtopic as i think we ruled out it being a debian issue
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251 [01:25:26] <nvz> its apparently a server config issue need to contact the admin
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253 [01:26:31] <nvz> replaced-url
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255 [01:27:21] <nvz> replaced-url
256 [01:27:37] <phogg> nvz: No. Do not kill -9!
257 [01:27:57] <phogg> -9 is NOT being nice, -9 is being extremely NOT nice to the point where you can break things if you use it
258 [01:28:20] <nvz> whats wrong with a sigterm
259 [01:28:24] <nvz> phogg: -15?
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263 [01:28:51] <nvz> idk what redshift even is
264 [01:29:02] <dax> -9 isn't sigterm, it's sigkill
265 [01:29:08] <replaced-url
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269 [01:30:39] <phogg> replaced-url
270 [01:30:40] <nvz> oh right -15 is sigterm
271 [01:30:53] <phogg> nvz: just always use symbolic signals and you'll be okay
272 [01:31:05] <phogg> nvz: kill -TERM $pid # but term is also the default
273 [01:32:08] <nvz> replaced-url
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275 [01:33:33] <nvz> replaced-url
276 [01:34:06] <replaced-url
277 [01:34:15] <nvz> replaced-url
278 [01:34:15] <nvz> or make a conditional that checks to see if its running
279 [01:34:19] <phogg> replaced-url
280 [01:34:40] <phogg> replaced-url
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283 [01:35:52] <nvz> the quote was in the wrong place in my example btw
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292 [01:43:54] <jim> now that the spammer got my attention, I'll ask the question... what is different about building debian kernel packages? is it that the scripts in kernel-package made it into the kernel source itself?
293 [01:45:23] <nvz> jim: kernel-package just builds the deb packages which integrates your kernel with the packaging system
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326 [02:01:24] <jelly> ,v qutebrowser
327 [02:01:25] <judd> No package named 'qutebrowser' was found in amd64.
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329 [02:02:44] <jim> maybe:
330 [02:02:50] <jim> ,find qutebrowser
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333 [02:02:53] <judd> Search for qutebrowser in stretch/amd64: profile-sync-daemon: usr/share/psd/browsers/qutebrowser
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339 [02:04:56] <jelly> avis: are you a bot?
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353 [02:12:53] <avis> 37598609812309812375098609810980234980198293048098902348769800981349289080192832193798123309812379580698019238120967568709811723948027349860917823049802367609810982348908609879081902349847698999098023498107698709801092384908600098109823409868098108232049820349028523934823098432587801280091092849680780901098234032971098234001092834790856908109823497506007098000109234876080889001091892347509860109203482943769801092734098576890810928340866999999101
354 [02:12:53] <avis> 92348785760898019824758968780801098234511010921822198032847500000000109810923749018427396809817234098679801234980576980000198234759860987120984109823498576998098123709758019823709860798901098234710298347698081892347908698018901720394860700 music non stop. we have linux, window, as if retail, and perfect roll desite os and origin. it's ok. freeware. Copyright. 2018. All Rights Reserved. payable to actually should be no overdafted BOFA
355 [02:12:53] <avis> andefinitely. for its value. it stole by spies paid for that purpose on all planets. the bad server dissassembly is bonds and indemnifies no criminal or finacial harm and my safety.
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378 [02:24:33] <jelly> that's a yes, then
379 [02:24:38] <jelly> !qotd0
380 [02:24:39] <dpkg> <hotdog> how do i join the debian channel?
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410 [02:45:12] <xk> clear
411 [02:45:45] <xk> hi why can't I remove installed third party window decorations?
412 [02:46:12] <xk> version stretch
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416 [02:47:42] <xk> the system defaults have too big borders, newly installed ones are smaller but the icons are ugly, even worse I can't find a place to remove them. pls help.
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418 [02:48:50] <th0r> xk, what desktop are you running? default for locally installed themes is, I believe, ~/.local/share/themes
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420 [02:50:18] <xk> th0r, it's kde, and there's no themes folder under .local/share
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422 [02:50:49] <th0r> xk, sorry...never even tried kde...not for near 20 years anyway
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424 [02:51:12] <xk> th0r, is it that terrible?
425 [02:51:33] <th0r> xk, that is a matter of opinion, I guess
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427 [02:51:47] <xk> :D
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429 [02:52:52] <th0r> xk, at any rate, it usually doesn't hurt to leave unwanted themes installed. They take up very little disk space, and are no load on resources unless you are using them.
430 [02:54:15] <th0r> xk, as to switching to another theme....that is something specific to kde that I don't know
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433 [02:56:12] <xk> th0r, yeah I think so too, but based on the horrible MS windows experiences, unwanted and can't-be-removed software are usually maleware, it left me a shadow in my mind.
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435 [02:56:52] <th0r> xk, if you installed using apt-get from a repo then there is nothing to worry about. If you are using third party software....well.....
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440 [02:59:34] <xk> th0r, I think I found the way, just find and delete the files and folders of the theme names, and it disappears.
441 [03:01:17] <xk> th0r, thank you so much. you see, your talking to me is a way of helping, no matter whether the solution comes from you or not. I can't figure it out by thinking alone.
442 [03:01:36] <th0r> I usually discuss it with my dog.
443 [03:01:43] <th0r> lousy advice, but a great listener
444 [03:01:45] <xk> th0r, ROFL
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446 [03:04:11] <xk> th0r, you're such a nice guy.
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448 [03:04:31] <th0r> xk, you can find other opinions
449 [03:04:57] <xk> :D I'll see you then
450 [03:05:00] <xk> bye
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513 [03:45:50] <robysath> Anyone else have an wikipedia account and has trouble log in?
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560 [03:59:00] <Bumblebe1> replaced-url
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590 [03:59:13] <Devastator> !ops
591 [03:59:13] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
592 [03:59:14] <monty> <3
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594 [03:59:39] <r0bby> Why not force people to ident to NS?
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607 [04:06:35] <fhffhqvb> ...
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622 [04:19:05] <r0bby> fhffhqvb: We have some people who weren't huged as childen
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627 [04:25:24] <fhffhqvb> r0bby: yes. trumpkins.
628 [04:25:34] <r0bby> They're beyond that
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689 [05:11:59] <machinehum> Should I be using nouveau for my GTX570, or will I get better results with the non-free driver from Nvedia
690 [05:12:23] <machinehum> nvidia*
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758 [05:50:00] <jsz> replaced-url
759 [05:50:00] <UNADOLCEs> replaced-url
760 [05:50:00] <enjoy> replaced-url
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771 [05:50:01] <trinity> replaced-url
772 [05:50:01] <trinity> replaced-url
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774 [05:50:06] <theraspberry> lol
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777 [05:51:00] <dw1> nothing to see here, just spam. as you were
778 [05:51:23] <sn0wmonster> in the end, they're just doing us a favor by getting all the proxies klined.
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780 [05:51:52] <sn0wmonster> on a long enough timeline, it will become too costly too spam.
781 [05:55:02] <ryouma> i want a cpu that is as compatible as possible with debian. either high end i5 or the new amd 6 processor. i think the latter does not have a built in video. i do not want binary blobs or anything that x or wayland won't work with. am i better off with the i5? or the amd?
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890 [07:09:49] <ofg|brtr> My server have a problem right now with https and cert and ssl port all together. How could I force apache to serve all request over http for now?
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892 [07:10:34] <ofg|brtr> like replaced-url
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895 [07:11:45] <qman__> you can't, really - the client requests the pages from you, and if the client requests HTTPS, you have to respond on it or not at all
896 [07:12:19] <qman__> you can use a 302 redirect to tell clients to go to the HTTP page, but they have to recieve that over HTTPS first, and if HTTPS is broken, that approach won't work
897 [07:12:21] <ofg|brtr> qman__: I don't want my server to be down right now
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903 [07:17:03] <qman__> fair enough, but the only way to resolve that is to fix your HTTPS
904 [07:17:14] <orb> replaced-url
905 [07:17:16] <qman__> if a client requests a page via HTTPS, the only way your server can respond is via HTTPS
906 [07:18:10] <qman__> your response can tell them to go elsewhere (HTTP), but you have to speak HTTPS to tell them that
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908 [07:18:17] <qman__> so it won't do much good if HTTPS doesn't work
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920 [07:24:11] <ozzloy> hi, i'm having trouble with starting mysql replaced-url
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922 [07:24:37] <ozzloy> not sure how to see the whole error message. there is nno /var/log/maria*
923 [07:25:08] <ozzloy> and /var/log/mysql* logs are too old to be this
924 [07:25:14] <ozzloy> related to this*
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954 [07:45:28] <jmcnaught> ozzloy: can you redo the systemctl status paste with '-l' so the lines aren't truncated? better yet, do "journalctl -u mariadb.service"
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957 [07:45:56] <password4> Good day
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967 [07:52:58] <ozzloy> jmcnaught, k, i'll do that, thanks
968 [07:53:15] <ozzloy> unfortunately, i have to go now, but i'll do that when i get back tomorrow
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1011 [08:22:22] <littlekitty> hi, what would be the best way to dualboot win10 and debian? (win10 got installed first - can't tell if gpt)
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1016 [08:27:31] <djz88> littlekitty: I would try to find if ur WIN10 boots UEFI way or Legacy in a first place.
1017 [08:28:10] <littlekitty> if i hit del while boot it is all flashy and shiny and a mouse cursor
1018 [08:28:16] <littlekitty> does this mean its uefi ?
1019 [08:28:18] <djz88> littlekitty: and I would consider to turn off fast shutdown in Win10 as well.
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1022 [08:29:16] <djz88> littlekitty: not necessary ..
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1024 [08:29:52] <djz88> littlekitty: Maybe you can see it in BIOS within boot options
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1027 [08:30:10] <littlekitty> djz88: sorry see what exactly ?
1028 [08:30:36] <littlekitty> djz88: about fast shutdown?
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1032 [08:31:32] <djz88> littlekitty: Some PC/Laptops like Dell or HP they offer to see what UEFI OS are installed(somewhere in the boot menu)
1033 [08:31:35] <littlekitty> djz88: i googled that right away, looks like i can turn it off in the power settings so that's no problem
1034 [08:31:46] <littlekitty> djz88: oh okay
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1036 [08:32:41] <djz88> littlekitty: yes exactly. I had an issue with fast shutdown which is that they somehow blocks NTFS FS from being mounted in Linux.
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1038 [08:34:06] <whatkappa> hi. any luck getting phpmyadmin working on debian stretch?
1039 [08:34:11] <whatkappa> i get access denied as root
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1070 [08:50:00] <littlekitty> djz88: okay so i had a look and there is a 'tab' in the bios/uefi that reads 'bios' and inside that it reads windows8/10 features : other os; storage boot option control: legacy; other pci devices: uefi
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1072 [08:50:47] <littlekitty> should I change storage boot option control to uefi instead?
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1074 [08:51:21] <djz88> littlekitty: you can set it to UEFI only and see if Windows boots :)
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1082 [08:54:45] <littlekitty> djz88: yep, it boots into windows
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1086 [08:58:26] <littlekitty> and i turned off fast shutdown
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1090 [08:59:04] <littlekitty> it doesn't seem to make a difference speedwise
1091 [08:59:44] <djz88> littlekitty: so now if you wanna install Debian I would go with UEFI way
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1099 [09:04:05] <littlekitty> djz88: so I figure that's an option I have to choose during the installation process?
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1200 [10:00:40] <Hyp3ri0n> hello guys
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1203 [10:01:33] <shtrb|bad_plasma> Hello Hyp3ri0n
1204 [10:02:05] <Nawab> when i turned my laptop on today,i found tht the wifi was not getting on and there was no option of "Wifi" in the upper right corner(im on gnome3)
1205 [10:02:28] <shtrb|bad_plasma> resume from suspend ?
1206 [10:02:35] <Nawab> even in settings theres no wifi option innetworks
1207 [10:02:41] <Nawab> in networks*
1208 [10:02:50] <shtrb|bad_plasma> check if it's not off via rfkill
1209 [10:03:17] <Nawab> i suppose the wifi driver hasnt been loaded properly,as i check ifconfig and systemctl and eno1 is working properly
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1213 [10:03:34] <Nawab> rfkill?
1214 [10:03:35] <shtrb|bad_plasma> Nawab , "rfkill list" from within shell and check if it's not blacklisted
1215 [10:03:41] <Nawab> ok
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1217 [10:03:51] <shtrb|bad_plasma> *sudo rfkill list
1218 [10:04:08] <shtrb|bad_plasma> if not there , reload the module
1219 [10:04:16] <shtrb|bad_plasma> and check in dmesg if there had been any errors
1220 [10:04:43] <Nawab> 0: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
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1222 [10:05:14] <Nawab> thts the problem,i dont remember or know maybe the correct command for loading kernel modules
1223 [10:05:20] <Nawab> lsmod maybe
1224 [10:05:25] <shtrb|work> ok that is not the case , reload the module (or search in dmesg / messages why it's not up)
1225 [10:05:32] <Nawab> ok
1226 [10:05:44] <shtrb|work> lsmod lists , you need modprobe something
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1228 [10:06:28] <shtrb|work> dmesg | grep network may give some hints
1229 [10:06:34] <Nawab> ok
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1231 [10:06:40] <shtrb|work> *grep net
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1234 [10:08:08] <Nawab> [ 1.661463] audit: initializing netlink subsys (disabled)[ 1.738893] microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.01 <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>, Peter Oruba[ 1.836093] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded [ 21.381530] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
1235 [10:08:14] <Nawab> i think its loaded?
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1239 [10:09:11] <aura> Hello
1240 [10:09:31] <Nawab> hi
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1243 [10:10:39] <aura> how do i remove permanently a package from my system?
1244 [10:10:44] <Wulf> dpkg -P foo
1245 [10:10:44] <dpkg> Wulf: are you using Windows?
1246 [10:10:49] <Wulf> dpkg: nope
1247 [10:10:49] <dpkg> yes
1248 [10:11:07] <Nawab> aura: apt-get autoremove
1249 [10:11:16] <Wulf> dpkg is mean to me :-(
1250 [10:11:16] <dpkg> Wulf: wish i knew
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1253 [10:12:33] <aura> thanks
1254 [10:12:48] <aura> another question, how can i check if flash is installed?
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1256 [10:13:19] <klys> dpkg -l | grep flash
1257 [10:13:19] <dpkg> ii | grep flash 1.7-3.2 klys's private porn collection
1258 [10:13:33] <Nawab> aura: in your browser you mean?
1259 [10:13:34] <shtrb|work> Nawab , doesn't seem like that (from the trace )
1260 [10:14:00] <Nawab> shtrb|work: so what do i do?
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1262 [10:14:20] <shtrb|work> list your hardware , and try to guess the module (via lspci/lsub)
1263 [10:14:22] <aura> does it get installed in the browser?
1264 [10:14:46] <Nawab> aura: i thought flash plugin,from adobe
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1268 [10:15:36] <aura> I may have accidentally installed it, i would like to remove it if i have done so
1269 [10:16:29] <Nawab> as klys said
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1271 [10:16:47] <Nawab> check your packages with dpkg and grep,and apt-get autoremove it
1272 [10:17:01] <aura> does this work? replaced-url
1273 [10:17:10] <shtrb|work> aura , make sure it's not some crap that need external removal
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1275 [10:18:29] <shtrb|work> but dpkg --purge is a good option
1276 [10:19:33] <Nawab> shtrb|work: how do i list my hardware
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1278 [10:19:49] <shtrb|work> lspci / lshw / lsusb etc
1279 [10:20:03] <Nawab> ok
1280 [10:20:05] <shtrb|work> just don't paste it here ! use a paste site
1281 [10:22:02] <aura> one more thing: are there any recommended wireless cards that doesn't use nonfree firmware?
1282 [10:22:29] <Nawab> ok
1283 [10:22:47] <shtrb|work> aura , I forgot to say that if you installed flashed using update_flashplugin you need to uninstall it in the same way (check alterantivis to see if it's there)
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1288 [10:24:49] <shtrb|work> *installed flash, update-flashplugin-nonfree --uninstall , update-alternatives --list flash-mozilla.so etc
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1293 [10:26:20] <Nawab> shtrb|work: replaced-url
1294 [10:26:26] <Nawab> i cant figure it out
1295 [10:26:28] <__marco> Hello. I have a virtualenv with python3.5. I think I upgraded python once in a time and now when I try to launch the interpreter from inside the virtualenv I get the following error:
1296 [10:26:39] <__marco> File "/usr/lib/python3.5/importlib/util.py", line 7, in <module>
1297 [10:26:39] <__marco> from ._bootstrap_external import MAGIC_NUMBER, _BACKCOMPAT_MAGIC_NUMBER
1298 [10:26:39] <__marco> ImportError: cannot import name '_BACKCOMPAT_MAGIC_NUMBER'
1299 [10:26:45] <shtrb|work> __marco , use paste sites
1300 [10:27:27] <Nawab> paste.debian.net or apt-get install pastebinit
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1302 [10:27:42] <Nawab> __marco: ^
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1304 [10:27:56] <__marco> replaced-url
1305 [10:28:40] <__marco> The are a serie of exceptions like that, all with the same error: ImportError: cannot import name...
1306 [10:29:32] <shtrb|work> Nawab , check also with lsusb (I don't see it either there ) maybe it's connected over the usb interface
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1308 [10:29:41] <Nawab> ok
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1310 [10:30:01] <__marco> I tried to update the virtualenv with '/usr/bin/python3 -m venv myvirtualenv', but I get also an error:
1311 [10:30:07] <shtrb|work> you didn't answer if you resumed from suspend
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1314 [10:30:30] <__marco> replaced-url
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1316 [10:31:33] <__marco> Before you ask, python3-venv is installed
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1335 [10:44:49] <shtrb|work> __marco , replaced-url
1336 [10:44:50] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1337 [10:47:55] <__marco> shtrb|work, thank you, but python-venv is installed (and btw. it is not only a development tool but we use it in production and all major daemons supports them: uwsgi, apache's modwsgi, and for sure others)
1338 [10:48:36] <__marco> shtrb|work, I resolved ranaming bin and upgrading the venv again
1339 [10:49:31] <shtrb|work> __marco , I just pasted the bug report , if you have a workaround please send what you did there
1340 [10:50:21] <Nawab> shtrb|work: idk if its there,i searched but idk
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1343 [10:51:07] <shtrb|work> I think your workaounrd could at least unblock for others
1344 [10:51:11] <Nawab> replaced-url
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1347 [10:52:10] <shtrb|work> maybe modswitch didn't work for you ? because that is rtlwifi
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1349 [10:52:43] <shtrb|work> *modemswitch
1350 [10:52:48] <Nawab> me?
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1353 [10:53:14] <shtrb|work> yes
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1357 [10:53:43] <shtrb|work> If it worked AFTER the kernel upgrade , maybe there is some missing modem switch action
1358 [10:53:43] <Nawab> what should i do now?
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1360 [10:54:05] <shtrb|work> reboot , or try to load rtlwifi
1361 [10:54:08] <shtrb|work> modprobe rtlwifi
1362 [10:54:12] <shtrb|work> to be sure
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1369 [10:54:41] <domovoy> hi
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1371 [10:54:56] <Nawab> root@mab:/home/neelz# modprobe rtlwifi
1372 [10:54:57] <Nawab> root@mab:/home/neelz#
1373 [10:54:59] <shtrb|work> Nawab , did you upgrade kernel last time
1374 [10:55:03] <Nawab> no
1375 [10:55:10] <shtrb|work> Nawab , now check if you have something in dmesg or the wifi is up
1376 [10:55:20] <domovoy> any way to make `dpkg-reconfigure locales` to only propose UTF-8 locales?
1377 [10:55:23] <Nawab> wifi isnbt up
1378 [10:55:26] <Nawab> isnt*
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1380 [10:56:23] <shtrb|work> any errors in dmesg ?
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1385 [10:57:26] <Nawab> replaced-url
1386 [10:57:59] <shtrb|work> It was working with the same kernel before correct ?
1387 [10:58:12] <Nawab> yeah
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1389 [10:58:44] <shtrb|work> Is it a pluggable device ? (something you can unplug and replug )
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1391 [10:59:01] <Nawab> no,its a laptop
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1405 [11:05:09] <shtrb|work> Nawab, I'm out of ideas for now
1406 [11:05:29] <Nawab> :(
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1462 [11:44:07] <yang> Is MariaDB now replacing MySQL in Debian stretch ?
1463 [11:44:09] <yang> I think that my upgrade got a bit ruined
1464 [11:44:23] <yang> Now trying to "restore" and fix it
1465 [11:44:49] <yang> Is there some manual I could use ?
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1467 [11:45:29] <colo-work> yang, checked the stretch release notes yet?
1468 [11:45:43] <yang> nope
1469 [11:46:30] <yang> I mean I got a question regarding phpmyadmin migration and it asked for passwords etc. and then somehow got ruined, cause I didn't insert the right password
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1476 [11:50:02] <yang> colo-work: just read that now
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1493 [12:00:11] <yang> I am trying to resolve this situation replaced-url
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1495 [12:00:44] <yang> Could use some assistance
1496 [12:01:35] <Nawab> why doesnt my laptop wifi start? yesterday it was working quite well
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1498 [12:01:59] <Nawab> today it doesnt start at all,and i hav to use my ethernet cable to talk here
1499 [12:02:12] <Nawab> replaced-url
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1501 [12:02:32] <Nawab> this is my dmesg info...idk whats up with my wifi
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1504 [12:05:44] <Epakai> Nawab: i don't see any wifi device in that output, does your laptop have a hardware switch to turn it off?
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1506 [12:06:00] <Nawab> i dont think so
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1508 [12:06:23] <Nawab> and i also didnt touch my uefi,so to speak
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1511 [12:06:39] <Epakai> what about an fn+key combo?
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1517 [12:10:04] <shtrb|work> Nawab , can you boot to another dist to be sure ?
1518 [12:10:50] <Nawab> shtrb|work: i dont hav another dist set up for this laptop
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1521 [12:11:15] <shtrb|work> knoppix or debian live to the rescue
1522 [12:11:51] <Nawab> any other way?
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1524 [12:13:06] <_abc_> Hello. Does anyone know if H110 based main boards, low end pc with atom/celeron soldered on board, boot cleanly, no driver problems, in current debian live?
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1527 [12:16:14] <_abc_> [not debian but could be?] replaced-url
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1529 [12:17:34] <dunderproto> is there a quick way to restart x windows due to a frozen application, something akin to #rcctl restart x
1530 [12:17:47] <dunderproto> (I'm new to debian)
1531 [12:18:11] <_abc_> Which application is frozen exactly?
1532 [12:18:34] <_abc_> dunderproto:
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1534 [12:18:41] <dunderproto> scratch for kids; I ran kill -TERM $PID which didn't quite kill the app
1535 [12:18:52] <dunderproto> _abc_: and now the app is hanging in this really ugly state and I've lost control of X
1536 [12:19:00] <dunderproto> I'm using xfce4, if that makes a difference
1537 [12:19:09] <_abc_> I see. You can restart x.
1538 [12:19:33] <Epakai> restart the display manager service, systemctl restart gdm3 (if you're using gdm3), or lightdm, sddm, xdm, etc.
1539 [12:19:45] <dunderproto> Epakai: Thanks!
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1541 [12:20:36] <at0m> dunderproto: you best run that from tty1, go to it using Ctrl-Alt-F1 then log in as root
1542 [12:20:55] <at0m> (tty1 or any other, but better not from within x)
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1544 [12:21:35] <at0m> or if xfce is responsive, you can log out there and log back in
1545 [12:22:01] <dunderproto> _abc_, at0m : Thanks. Turns out I was using lightdm. Great, all is back
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1547 [12:23:35] <yang> Trying to fix MariaDB with apt-get ... replaced-url
1548 [12:24:03] <yang> Not sure why it isn't starting up...
1549 [12:24:07] <_abc_> Suggest a low end all in one pc mainboard known to work with debian jessie+ out of the box?
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1554 [12:26:29] <jmcnaught> yang: what does "systemctl status mariadb" say?
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1557 [12:27:23] <password2> hi , how come replaced-url
1558 [12:28:11] <yang> jmcnaught: on this same machine I have sysvinit and systemd both installed ...
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1562 [12:28:46] <yang> Failed to get properties: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
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1572 [12:32:51] <Epakai> password2: replaced-url
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1577 [12:34:56] <password2> thats interesting , was just wondering whats up
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1579 [12:36:28] <venkat_330> i have installed a minimum debian in my PC/ Min deb (without GUI) and used apt-get to install X and lxde-common.I have been using this environment for quite long without issues. Sometimes I GKSU to switch user , For which it prompts for user password, In this pop up window I want to disable user from selecting remember password option. is there a way to achieve it. Request guidance
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1584 [12:38:28] <jmcnaught> yang: "Failed to get properties…" is the output of the systemctl status command? Are you using sysvinit as /sbin/init?
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1586 [12:38:35] <password2> urg , this dl speed is dismal , 1day remaining on one iso
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1605 [12:46:35] <password2> the printf in info , I want to chage two things , make it save to a file and print the timstamp too, how do i do that? replaced-url
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1684 [13:10:07] <password2> woops , i asked in wrong channel , sorry
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1711 [13:26:08] <BrainWork> hi, anyone else here unable to reach ftp.uk.debian.org for apt-get update?
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1713 [13:26:20] <BrainWork> i cant ping it or telnet it on port 80, and apt-get is failing.
1714 [13:26:28] <shtrb|work> ftp ?
1715 [13:26:42] <BrainWork> yup, thats what its detected and used itself from the mirror selection months ago
1716 [13:26:56] <BrainWork> as in ftp. on the start of the hostname, but http mirror
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1718 [13:27:18] <shtrb|work> I can't reach it with ftp either
1719 [13:27:24] <BrainWork> out of curiosity, isnt answering on port 21 either
1720 [13:27:27] <BrainWork> yeah
1721 [13:27:47] <shtrb|work> check it with mtr
1722 [13:28:00] <BrainWork> mtr?
1723 [13:28:09] <shtrb|work> mtr (apt-get install mtr)
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1725 [13:28:26] <BrainWork> hmm, i cant install it, the mirror is down :P
1726 [13:28:32] <BrainWork> unless ofc i changed mirror, possibly
1727 [13:28:38] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
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1732 [13:28:58] <shtrb|work> oh yes , sorry - it's a nice tool to see the route and some extra features
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1737 [13:30:00] <BrainWork> thanks jmcnaught, i am using http
1738 [13:30:33] <BrainWork> im going to change my sources to deb.debian.org and bypass the downed server
1739 [13:30:54] <shtrb|work> BrainWork , you can use the redirect ones or choose one which is close to you
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1742 [13:31:14] <shtrb|work> I found out that my uni had a mirror once :)
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1744 [13:31:43] <BrainWork> my home isp has/had a mirror, i think
1745 [13:31:49] <BrainWork> which was cool
1746 [13:31:50] <BrainWork> :D
1747 [13:32:03] <shtrb|work> so better use it than debian's
1748 [13:32:16] <shtrb|work> as long as you trust your ISP
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1750 [13:32:28] <BrainWork> im not at home here, seems that deb.debian.org is fast enough. we generally get 30mb both ways here to near enough most of the world
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1753 [13:33:48] <apollo13> hi, any idea why firefox would not recognize a protocol? xdg-open can open the link just fine -- where to start looking?
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1756 [13:34:29] <shtrb|work> are you writing the url by yourself or relaying on firefox to correctly open it ? (firefox %u)
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1758 [13:35:15] <apollo13> shtrb|work: clicking on a webpage
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1760 [13:35:29] <shtrb|work> from within firefox ?
1761 [13:35:35] <apollo13> it is a custom protocol, xdg-open bapgui://127.0.0.1:15000 works, the same in an <a href="…" > does not
1762 [13:35:35] <apollo13> yes
1763 [13:35:41] <apollo13> it says unsupported protocol
1764 [13:36:38] <shtrb|work> are external protocol enabled in firefox ?
1765 [13:36:59] <shtrb|work> network.protocol-handler.exernal.bapgui
1766 [13:37:27] <apollo13> no
1767 [13:37:44] <apollo13> but then again bap (which it was before) also worked without that
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1769 [13:38:07] <shtrb|work> that is how you declared custom protocols in firefox (I have no idea what bap is )
1770 [13:38:33] <apollo13> well firefox usually defers to xdg-open (or the system rather) if it doesn't know what to do
1771 [13:38:45] <apollo13> bap/bapgui are just protocol scheme names I made up
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1773 [13:38:47] <shtrb|work> in that case I'm out
1774 [13:39:17] <apollo13> replaced-url
1775 [13:39:23] <apollo13> although in chrome it works
1776 [13:39:44] <apollo13> well the protocol is real, it is just not iana registered…
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1791 [13:49:30] <apollo13> shtrb|work: replaced-url
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1800 [13:52:47] <discovered> hi
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1802 [13:54:35] <inviz> seems my servers take time connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org have I missed something?
1803 [13:54:50] <shtrb|work> ftp is down
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1805 [13:54:53] <shtrb|work> move to http
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1807 [13:55:08] <inviz> well it is http, ftp is just a vhost
1808 [13:55:35] <shtrb|work> someone else complained about that server ,it's down (http, ftp , ping etc ) for some ISPs
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1810 [13:55:52] <shtrb|work> just switch to something else
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1812 [13:55:54] <inviz> ok thanks, will change mirror I guess
1813 [13:56:17] <koollman> I don't use a direct mirror name anymore. a redirection is now a better idea
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1817 [13:56:49] <solarengin> hello I 've set up a virtual host but still it is openning /var/replaced-url
1818 [13:57:10] <koollman> inviz: replaced-url
1819 [13:57:30] <shtrb|work> solarengin , are you accessing it via http[s]://vhost and did you remember to restart apache service ?
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1821 [13:58:04] <inviz> koollman: cool
1822 [13:58:07] <solarengin> I am accessing with replaced-url
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1824 [13:58:14] <solarengin> replaced-url
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1826 [13:58:54] <solarengin> I restarted apache service
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1831 [13:59:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
1832 [13:59:53] <solarengin> hello
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1837 [14:00:57] <solarengin> shtrb|work: it doesn't recognize /var/replaced-url
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1839 [14:02:49] <apollo13> shtrb|work: mhm, using network.protocol-handler.expose.<foo> worked, I swear it worked without before :(
1840 [14:03:11] <shtrb|work> did you set document root correctly ?
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1842 [14:03:27] <shtrb|work> apollo13 , it's firefox everything is possible
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1844 [14:04:37] <solarengin> I will share my virtual host file hold on please
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1846 [14:06:19] <solarengin> replaced-url
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1848 [14:06:54] <solarengin> shtrb|work: could you please inspect my virtual hosts file for me
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1850 [14:07:38] <cymen> I'm confused by this system lsb_release -a says it's stretch but the apt source are jessie and sid...anybody got an idea how those fit together?
1851 [14:07:52] <shtrb|work> can you ask also at #apache but I feel something bad with your rewirtes , can you comment them and try without them ?
1852 [14:08:20] <solarengin> thanks shtrb|work I will do your comments
1853 [14:08:59] <apollo13> shtrb|work: mhm expose-all is set and the docs contradict itself :D
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1861 [14:14:10] <abrotman> solarengin: anything in the logs about the rewrites?
1862 [14:14:12] <dunderproto> For residential customers trying to self-host email, if the ISP refuses to help with reverse IP setup, is there anything else that can be done?
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1864 [14:14:32] <dunderproto> besides buying a VPS
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1868 [14:15:10] <apollo13> dunderproto: no
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1871 [14:15:51] <dunderproto> s/reverse IP/reverse DNS
1872 [14:15:59] <dunderproto> apollo13: that's a pity
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1874 [14:18:29] <solarengin> abortman: there is no error about rewrites
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1876 [14:18:33] <abrotman> dunderproto: To be fair, most providers would mark your message as spam, or not accept the connection
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1879 [14:19:00] <shtrb|work> dunderproto , you wouldn't pass the firewall at some of the places
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1882 [14:19:56] <shtrb|work> solarengin , did you try without the rewrite rules ?
1883 [14:20:12] <abrotman> turning off those rewrites would probably break drupal
1884 [14:20:34] <shtrb|work> his complaint was not being able to reach the folder at all (the first one)
1885 [14:20:43] <dunderproto> abrotman, shtrb|work : thanks
1886 [14:21:18] <abrotman> dunderproto: you might be able to setup a VPN to send/receive, but that might be more trouble than it's worth
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1888 [14:21:27] <solarengin> shtrb|work yes it is working without rewrite rules thanks
1889 [14:21:38] <solarengin> I will inspect what is wrong in rewrite rules
1890 [14:21:49] <solarengin> thank you friends yay
1891 [14:22:58] <dunderproto> are ISPs in general starting to prohibit customers from hosting any servers nowadays?
1892 [14:23:08] <dunderproto> residential customers*
1893 [14:23:16] <celyr> dunderproto, well
1894 [14:23:36] <celyr> dunderproto, given the level of service they are doing it in passive way lol
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1896 [14:23:47] <solarengin> yes abrotman turning off those rewrites broke my drupal but I will try to find what is wrong with them
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1900 [14:24:53] <shtrb|work> dunderproto , I was charged once for being able to host port forwarding
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1903 [14:25:35] <shtrb|work> Today you pay extra to be not on carrier grade nat (for IPv4)
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1905 [14:26:59] <apollo13> even worse some providers even don't give you sensible ipv6 subnets
1906 [14:27:58] <dunderproto> Does IPv6 change any of these trends? Or is it that residential users are increasingly not allowed to run anything besides dumb clients
1907 [14:28:18] <shtrb|work> I liked how some started to slow down CDN for hosted customers
1908 [14:28:20] <BrainWork> in america, i guess?
1909 [14:28:31] <BrainWork> ive never had any restrictions on running anything except SMB
1910 [14:28:34] <BrainWork> which is understandable
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1912 [14:29:39] <BrainWork> iirc there arent any non-mobile isp that would even dare to put customers behind CGNAT and mess with their neutrality in the uk... i know the US is different
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1914 [14:30:01] <abrotman> dunderproto: which trends?
1915 [14:30:07] <BrainWork> oh wait theres one... some fibre isp that promises 1gbit to the home... they dont mention that its natted
1916 [14:31:11] <dunderproto> abrotman: that residential customers can't host their own servers, whether it's mail or web, etc
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1921 [14:31:54] <dunderproto> I remember reading about some recent fiber deployments where the ISP forbidding any servers
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1923 [14:32:01] <dunderproto> forbid*
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1925 [14:32:16] <abrotman> dunderproto: "can't (by default)", some ISPs will allow you to request the appropriate access. But I don't think IPv6 (for home use) is making any difference for that default setting
1926 [14:32:19] <shtrb|work> BrainWork , you can be put on the other plan just pay extra
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1929 [14:33:18] <abrotman> and we've drifted widely offtopic :(
1930 [14:33:26] <BrainWork> im currently running web/https, mail and imaps, plus ssh from home, and vpn
1931 [14:33:54] <BrainWork> i think a few isps restrict you in terms of service but dont actively filter, "you will refrain from running services and we may monitor and restrict this at our future discretion"
1932 [14:33:56] <shtrb|work> abrotman sorry
1933 [14:34:00] <dunderproto> abrotman: sorry
1934 [14:34:06] <BrainWork> the isp im on doesnt say that, and the ones that do havent restricted anyone yet
1935 [14:34:16] <BrainWork> yeah, a bit OT
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1953 [14:42:55] <Azirty> I am installing Debian through the installer and I intend to create a spanned volume from two of my disks. However, when I add my partitions to LVM the root partitions become unrecognizable as root partitions, instead being in use by LVM. How can I create a spanned volume from my two disks, then?
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1958 [14:44:12] <jmcnaught> Azirty: on the manual partitioning menu there is a sub-menu for "Configure LVM"
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1962 [14:46:16] <Azirty> I did that, and I created a volume group from that, to which I added my partitions. But that results in them being recognized as part of LVM, not as root.
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1968 [14:47:58] <jmcnaught> Azirty: if the logical volumes are listed in the partitioning menu, enter the sub-menu for one and choose "use as…'
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1970 [14:48:48] <contrapunctus> Is there any user-friendly (think Ubuntu Software Center) package manager for Debian?
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1972 [14:49:04] <shtrb|work> yes
1973 [14:49:18] <abrotman> contrapunctus: yes, same, software center
1974 [14:50:17] <contrapunctus> abrotman: I just looked for it - it's been removed, I think
1975 [14:50:41] <shtrb|work> contrapunctus , what DE are you using ?
1976 [14:50:41] <contrapunctus> shtrb|work: a recommendation to go with the "yes" would be nice ;)
1977 [14:50:47] <contrapunctus> oh. Cinnamon.
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1979 [14:51:21] <abrotman> judd: versions gnome-software
1980 [14:51:23] <judd> Package: gnome-software on amd64 -- sid: 3.22.5-1; buster: 3.22.5-1; stretch: 3.22.5-1; experimental: 3.25.3-1
1981 [14:51:28] <abrotman> neat ..
1982 [14:51:32] <abrotman> seems to be there
1983 [14:51:47] <abrotman> Unless you're still on Jessie
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2045 [15:28:33] <Guest50568> hello
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2048 [15:29:37] <offsecOS-28490> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY mztkn
2049 [15:29:44] <offsecOS-28490> /join #offsec
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2051 [15:30:11] <shtrb|work> that seems like a bad idea
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2053 [15:30:33] <Guest50568> Are there hackers
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2059 [15:31:50] <discovered1> hi
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2077 [15:41:57] <ntz> servus, quick question .... how do I print out the linking order (eg how are parsed files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/) ??
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2081 [15:43:48] <hiroki> Using 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' and having added 'testing' to the APT sources list with the goal of adding a single package from there. Would I need to involve myself with APT pinning using .pref files in preferences.d, or is the default-release directive in apt.conf sufficient ?
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2092 [15:47:06] <ntz> got it :: ldconfig -v 2>/dev/null | perl -ne 'next if m@^\s+@; print'
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2094 [15:47:53] <nvz> hiroki: what package do you need?
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2102 [15:56:02] <hiroki> nvz: monit-5.22.0 as opposed to the 5.20.0 version in stable
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2104 [15:56:50] <noqnio1> how can i configure a service to run at startup that "is not meant to be enabled using systemctl." (message when trying systemctl enable x)
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2106 [15:58:15] <th0r> noqnio1, you might try adding a line to /etc/rc.local
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2112 [15:59:19] <nvz> hiroki: the depends are all the same, so thats good it wont pull in anything as long as that doesnt change you could just install
2113 [15:59:43] <abrotman> hiroki: you might be able to use the "ssb" method instead
2114 [15:59:48] <nvz> hiroki: you could backport it yourself and not worry about it
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2118 [16:00:46] <hiroki> nvz: Ah great ! And what about the 'proper' method of using a testing repository on a stable installation. Use apt::default-release is sufficient, or would I need to use APT pinning instead ? (maybe even a combination of both). Just in case i'd like to add another package from testing in the future..
2119 [16:01:23] <hiroki> abrotman: I'm not familiar with the SSB method, could you refer me ?
2120 [16:02:04] <nvz> hiroki: in my opinion the proper method for out of branch packages is to avoid it at all costs first check for a backport, then consider making one vs a chroot
2121 [16:02:11] <nvz> hiroki: /msg dpkg ssb
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2123 [16:02:16] <abrotman> dpkg: tell hiroki about ssb
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2126 [16:03:45] <nvz> in this instance the package is not very complex and the depends match the stable ones exactly so all methods are feasible but i'd backport it using ssb personally
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2128 [16:04:27] <hiroki> Yeah i'm kinda trying to avoid compiling it on every single host and like to use binary packages only. Repeating a compilation on a ton of RPI3's is not the best option :)
2129 [16:04:49] <nvz> hiroki: you backport it then install the deb on other systems
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2132 [16:05:42] <hiroki> Right, so that would be a single compilation then, sounds fair
2133 [16:05:45] <hiroki> Thanks nvz !
2134 [16:05:48] <nvz> the backported deb has no risk of breakage or changing depends versions that irreversibly upgrade libc6 or something and break your whole system
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2137 [16:06:26] <nvz> testing is going to change thats certain.. how it will change is not, your backport wont
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2139 [16:06:56] <hiroki> Yep, sounds like the most sensible option in terms of sustainability, good point
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2141 [16:07:59] <nvz> if this were something huge like libreoffice a chroot install of testing with schroot would make more sense to avoid breakage and save time
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2145 [16:08:39] <nvz> as i said, the smart money is on avoiding branch mixing at all costs, there are other ways
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2150 [16:10:22] <hiroki> nvz: yep, avoiding it would be preferred. Quick follow-up, manually downloading the .deb from the testing repo (this specific non-dependent package) and installing the .deb locally -> would that be similar to having created a backport or might it be different after all ?
2151 [16:10:48] <nvz> which is why i asked which package so i could assess the situation before recommending anything specific
2152 [16:11:27] <nvz> hiroki: as long as you have no testing sources in apt, yes it would be similar
2153 [16:11:48] <nvz> hiroki: but only in this instance because the depends versions all match
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2156 [16:12:16] <hiroki> nvz: yep, I understand the logic behind it, thanks a bunch for the double check
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2158 [16:12:34] <nvz> hiroki: fwiw i used judd
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2160 [16:13:08] <nvz> ,depends testing monit
2161 [16:13:09] <judd> No package named 'testing' was found in stretch/amd64.
2162 [16:13:19] <nvz> ,depends monit testing
2163 [16:13:21] <judd> Package monit in stretch/amd64 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.16), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0), lsb-base (>= 3.2-13).
2164 [16:13:46] <ralpheeee> :x
2165 [16:13:47] <nvz> hiroki: you can come here and /msg judd to do package info lookups quickly
2166 [16:14:01] <nvz> ,versions monit
2167 [16:14:03] <judd> Package: monit on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:5.4-2; wheezy-security: 1:5.4-2+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 1:5.6-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:5.9-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 1:5.20.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:5.20.0-6; buster: 1:5.22.0-1; sid: 1:5.22.0-1
2168 [16:14:25] <hiroki> Was msging judd as we speak indeed, neat bot !
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2170 [16:15:04] <glick> hi#
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2173 [16:15:05] <glick> hi
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2176 [16:15:18] <nvz> ~you alive?
2177 [16:15:31] <nvz> apt: test
2178 [16:15:31] <apt> [test] not funny
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2180 [16:16:31] <nvz> nobody ever pays attention to apt anymore
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2182 [16:17:47] <glick> when should you get rid of a disk?
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2184 [16:17:56] <glick> i have a external usb disk, its kind of old
2185 [16:18:05] <glick> i ran smartctl quick test on it
2186 [16:18:22] <nvz> glick: when it starts to fail, not showing accurate space..etc
2187 [16:18:29] <glick> for most tests its exceeded the threshold
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2189 [16:18:52] <glick> undder 'type' i see a lot of pre-fail and oldage
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2191 [16:19:15] <glick> but it seems to work fine
2192 [16:19:39] <nvz> depends on your prefs i suppose. my hdd im using now was used in industrial environment in a previous life and according to it smart data has seen temps of 144
2193 [16:20:09] <nvz> i dont plan on keeping anything too important on it but im not getting rid of it either
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2195 [16:20:42] <glick> maybe ill use it as a backup for my shitty photos
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2198 [16:24:04] <freebsd_> 7join freebsd
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2204 [16:26:43] <nvz> idk what kinda keyboard layout you got but 7 is nowhere near / on mine
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2206 [16:28:36] <at0m> nvz: on a numpad it is.
2207 [16:28:57] <nvz> who uses a numpad for that? heh
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2218 [16:35:37] <BluesKaj> numbers guys use the number pad a lot including / and the other handy symbols there
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2221 [16:37:00] <sonOfRa> I rarely use my numpad. Basically only for entering my TOTP tokens when I'm being asked for them, because they're always completely numerical
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2238 [16:46:30] <contrapunctus> ...by input method I meant an input method editor, like ibus, fcitx, scim, ...
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2246 [16:50:43] <contrapunctus> sorry, wrong channel
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2253 [16:54:40] <zoomm10> Hi, when the system boot, don't prompt password for swap divice, in crypttab all looks ok, any ideas?
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2261 [16:57:13] <rudi_s> zoomm10: What is the line in crypttab for the swap device?
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2264 [16:57:59] <zoomm10> encswap /dev/sda6
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2271 [17:01:18] <contrapunctus> Err...one email in this bug log is spam, afaicmo. Can I safely report it? replaced-url
2272 [17:01:19] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2281 [17:04:20] <abrotman> contrapunctus: I think someone manually inspects it, but probably beter to ask #debian-bugs on irc.oftc.net
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2289 [17:05:26] <zoomm10> rudi_s:i am thinking the problem is coming from last updates, before some month it is working...
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2291 [17:05:58] <kbeflo> what is similar to debirf but smaller, that can fit it into a 64mb flashdrive
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2294 [17:06:34] <contrapunctus> abrotman: thanks
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2296 [17:07:59] <rudi_s> zoomm10: man cryptab -> "Note that all four fields are mandatory and that a missing field will lead to unspecified behaviour."
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2300 [17:09:06] <zoomm10> rudi_s: did you mean like /de/urandom etc?
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2302 [17:09:24] <rudi_s> zoomm10: Yes, you need to use all fields.
2303 [17:09:35] <xp> How come we don't have Eagle for Stretch?
2304 [17:09:40] <rudi_s> (Depending what you're doing with swap /dev/urandom will be an issue, but depends what you do.)
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2306 [17:10:35] <zoomm10> rudi_s: encswap /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256,size=256
2307 [17:11:01] <rudi_s> zoomm10: Why do you expect a prompt for the password?
2308 [17:11:02] <zoomm10> rudi_s: i miss something?
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2310 [17:11:13] <rudi_s> It's randomly generated on each boot.
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2312 [17:11:18] <zoomm10> rudi_s : no
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2315 [17:11:45] <rudi_s> "The third field, key file, describes the file to use as a key for decrypting the data of the source device. Note that the entire key file will be used as the passphrase; the passphrase must not be followed by a newline character."
2316 [17:11:52] <rudi_s> Unless I'm misreading the man page.
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2324 [17:15:10] <xp> Is there a good free alternative to cadsofts Eagle?
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2330 [17:18:05] <zoomm10> rudi_s: thank you
2331 [17:18:43] <rudi_s> np
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2338 [17:21:41] <somiaj> xp: replaced-url
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2342 [17:22:15] <kbeflo> what is similar to debirf but smaller that can fit it into a 64mb flashdrive?
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2361 [17:30:22] <vilpan> hi all, I'm wondering why does debootstrap need root? I thought it should only be writing to the target dir and not change the host system in any way.
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2365 [17:32:25] <somiaj> vilpan: you have to be root to change file permisions to owners/groups you don't have access to. debootstrap has to set up all the file permeissions to be owned by root, or what ever the proper user/group is for a debian system.
2366 [17:33:08] <somiaj> debootstrap may also be writting some root owend setuid files too, and you don't want normal users to be able to do this without root permissions.
2367 [17:33:14] <nvz> use fakeroot?
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2371 [17:34:00] <somiaj> I doubt fakeroot will help in this case, but unsure on the details of what fakeroot actually allows (I have never used it outside of packaging)
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2374 [17:34:17] <nvz> me either
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2382 [17:35:54] <Quo-fan> i have a question about upgrading from jessie to stretch with apt: does it work smoothly so that it doesnt break the package dee
2383 [17:35:57] <Quo-fan> depencies
2384 [17:36:20] <somiaj> Quo-fan: it works in many cases, but still read the release notes, and follow their suggestions
2385 [17:36:22] <abrotman> generally, yes
2386 [17:36:37] <somiaj> if you use third party packages/repos, this is one known thing that can cause problems.
2387 [17:36:45] <nvz> Quo-fan: yes if you use dist-upgrade and have no 3rd patry packages
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2394 [17:39:36] <vilpan> somiaj: thanks. I intend to setup a chroot under my $HOME, so it seemed a bit strange that debootstrap outright refuses to run without root.
2395 [17:39:36] <nvz> ive been doing dist-upgrades since potato and the worst times we had was when devfs came about
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2399 [17:40:50] <nvz> vilpan: schroot is handy for running apps in a chroot
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2401 [17:42:06] <rudi_s> vilpan: You can't chroot anything without being root.
2402 [17:42:19] <vilpan> nvz: right, I noticed as I read the wiki pages on chroot and debootstrap as well as the schroot package description, yet didn't quite get what the advantages are. It seems to automate some things, but I don't intend to manage large number of chroots or even work with them a lot, so not sure there's any benefit for me.
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2407 [17:44:23] <nvz> vilpan: schroot helps to integrate apps in the chroot to run as though they were regularly installed
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2409 [17:44:49] <kang00> How to implement or use modbus protocol
2410 [17:44:55] <vilpan> Quo-fan: also note that it is not recommended to run the upgrade process inside a graphical session. Haven't reviewed stretch release notes yet, but that's what the release notes for previous releases used to say.
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2413 [17:45:25] <nvz> vilpan: it also addresses needing to be root to do it iirc
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2415 [17:45:34] <somiaj> vilpan: it would be a security issue if a normal user could create a chroot and then chroot into it. root is needed for this.
2416 [17:45:35] <rdz> hey all..what's the point of adding the components contrib and non-free to Debian-Security sourcelist?
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2418 [17:45:41] <rdz> replaced-url
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2420 [17:45:59] <greycat> To get patches for contrib and non-free packages.
2421 [17:46:00] <rdz> I thought, the security team only covers main
2422 [17:46:23] <rdz> greycat, so there _are_ patches to those, even if the security team doesn't address them on their own?
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2429 [17:47:36] <greycat> Who knows. The security FAQ says it'
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2432 [17:47:41] <greycat> s not supported, but ...
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2445 [17:53:13] <vilpan> rdz: fwiw, virtualbox* is in the contrib package list, e.g. replaced-url
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2449 [17:54:22] <somiaj> not that oracle lets its team backport secuirty patches to an older version though.
2450 [17:54:27] <somiaj> why it was removed from stretch
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2462 [17:58:46] <rdz> vilpan, ah.. thanks.. so it does make sense to add contrib to Debian-Security list
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2478 [18:01:51] <vilpan> rdz: I suppose so, jessie had virtualbox in contrib, stretch has otrs in non-free on security.d.o. Although, if you can avoid contrib and non-free in the first place, the point is moot :)
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2484 [18:03:10] <somiaj> rdz: the security team likes tries to deal with contrib/non-free security issues when it can. Sometimes (mostly with contrib) it can, non-free it may not be able to due to leagle reasons. Sometimes the owner of the non-free software will provide a security fix that debian can then distribute.
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2486 [18:03:49] <dondelelcaro> exit
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2506 [18:12:15] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I have a ethernet driver in the form of a .so file, how do I install this in debian?
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2513 [18:13:51] <somiaj> cluelessperson: what ethernet card? You shoudln't need to get drivers that way.
2514 [18:14:30] <shtrb> cluelessperson , that is not how you get a module (insmod filename.ko ) , an .so mean you did something wrong
2515 [18:14:33] <jelly> cluelessperson: .so file is a userspace library, and drivers are typically kernel space software not userspace.
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2517 [18:14:45] <shtrb> your kernel should do all the work
2518 [18:14:48] <cluelessperson> somiaj: e1000e
2519 [18:14:50] <jelly> cluelessperson: where exactly did you get this file from?
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2522 [18:15:07] <shtrb> cluelessperson , modprobe e1000 and that it
2523 [18:15:11] <jelly> cluelessperson: what does "lspci -nn" line for your card look like?
2524 [18:15:21] <somiaj> I don't see why you would need to get any driver for that card, it should work with the default kernel just fine.
2525 [18:15:22] <jelly> shtrb: probably e1000e, not e1000
2526 [18:15:28] <towo`> shtrb, e1000 ! e1000e
2527 [18:15:35] <shtrb> correct
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2529 [18:15:37] <cluelessperson> shtrb Sorry, it's a ko file
2530 [18:15:44] <towo`> but it's in kernel since ages
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2532 [18:16:06] <shtrb> Never load a kernel module you didn't write
2533 [18:16:08] <shtrb> you have a package for that
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2538 [18:17:03] <jelly> cluelessperson: a .ko kernel module needs to be built precisely for the kernel you're running, so, again, can you say where you got this file from? And which kernel are you using right now (uname -a)?
2539 [18:17:12] <cluelessperson> Okay, sorry. To clarify. We have wheezy here on a product, and we're trying to install this ethernet driver for a new piece of hardware.
2540 [18:17:27] <cluelessperson> jelly: it's a downloadable from the intel website.
2541 [18:17:30] <cluelessperson> We have source.
2542 [18:17:35] <jelly> where... EXACTLY
2543 [18:17:45] <shtrb> Never trust a vendor
2544 [18:17:53] <shtrb> Are you asking to break your system !?
2545 [18:18:11] <cluelessperson> jelly: Intel's official driver website, there's source to make it as well.
2546 [18:18:11] <jelly> shtrb: lol, they made the hardware, trusting them already
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2548 [18:18:18] <shtrb> *brick your system
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2551 [18:18:58] <somiaj> cluelessperson: in general you do not download the .ko file, you download the files to build the .ko file to link against your current kernel.
2552 [18:19:10] <shtrb> jelly , the hardware is one thing , a binary is a differnt thing
2553 [18:19:22] <jelly> cluelessperson: can you point out the URL? And which kernel are you using right now?
2554 [18:19:25] <cluelessperson> somiaj: okay, well I think my coworker built this ko file on the system.
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2556 [18:19:41] <jelly> shtrb: not at all -- same vendor, same level of trust
2557 [18:19:43] <cluelessperson> replaced-url
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2560 [18:19:52] <somiaj> cluelessperson: part of building it should install it for the current kernel. If your kernel changes, you may have to rebuild, not just copy the .ko over.
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2563 [18:20:00] <shtrb> cluelessperson , to begin with - if you are running an updated kernel it should be already there (and loaded)
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2568 [18:20:28] <cluelessperson> somiaj: so if you have a build system where you install this on products, how are you supposed to include it?
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2570 [18:20:44] <cluelessperson> I expect to be able to just install a package normally with debootstrap, for example
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2572 [18:21:06] <shtrb> dkms , m-a but that module is usually inside the kernel already
2573 [18:21:20] <shtrb> *m-a == module-assitant
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2575 [18:21:27] <jelly> cluelessperson: what does uname -a say? and uname -r?
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2579 [18:21:56] <shtrb> cluelessperson , your kernel probabably have that already
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2584 [18:22:51] <cluelessperson> Linux Wheezy 1.stations 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1 (2016-01-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2587 [18:23:11] <cluelessperson> shtrb: well I'm unable to use the ethernet driver it seems
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2592 [18:23:20] <jelly> so you have an old wheezy-backports kernel there
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2598 [18:23:41] <jelly> cluelessperson: what does "lspci -nn" line for that card look like?
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2604 [18:24:35] <jelly> cluelessperson: if this was a driver that did not exist in kernel already, you'd put it somewhere under /lib/modules/3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64/
2605 [18:24:46] <shtrb> 3.16.0.4 had e1000e support
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2610 [18:25:37] <shtrb> cluelessperson , do you have an error of some kind ? the interface is not up ?
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2614 [18:25:53] <cluelessperson> jelly: It lists an "ethernet controller" and it says, "eth0 is not configured" when I attempt to bring it up
2615 [18:25:53] <jelly> cluelessperson: eg. mkdir /lib/modules/3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64/extra, place it there, then run depmod -a and hope it overrides the in-kernel one
2616 [18:25:55] <shtrb> an oops in dmesg
2617 [18:25:56] <cluelessperson> ifup eth0
2618 [18:26:06] <jelly> cluelessperson: that's not output of "lspci -nn"
2619 [18:26:35] <jelly> show the full line (or at least the pci-id [8086:XXXX])
2620 [18:26:57] <cluelessperson> jelly: there is something along those lines, but it's a long string I'd have to manually copy over.
2621 [18:27:02] <jelly> do that.
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2623 [18:28:12] <cluelessperson> 00:1f:6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:24fd] (rev 78)
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2626 [18:28:26] <jelly> judd: pciid 8086:24fd
2627 [18:28:27] <judd> [8086:24fd] is 'Wireless 8265 / 8275' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
2628 [18:28:39] <jelly> wireless?
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2631 [18:28:48] <cluelessperson> jelly: that may be the wielress one.
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2636 [18:29:04] <cluelessperson> I don't see another network controller listed, that must be the wireless one
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2639 [18:29:30] <cluelessperson> jelly: Wait, no, it says "ethernet controlller"
2640 [18:29:39] <shtrb> e1000e is 1Gbps ...
2641 [18:29:47] <jelly> cluelessperson: that's not e1000e driven, that's iwlwifi driven wireless
2642 [18:29:59] <shtrb> I think you are searching for iwlwifi
2643 [18:30:06] <jelly> wrong device
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2650 [18:30:59] <cluelessperson> I'm not interested in the wifi driver
2651 [18:31:03] <jelly> cluelessperson: if the device isn't visible on PCI it won't work in linux no matter which driver is present :-)
2652 [18:31:31] <jelly> (and if it's a pci device at all, not usb or i2c or what not)
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2654 [18:31:41] <shtrb> jelly , usb wifi adapters ...
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2656 [18:32:26] <shtrb> cluelessperson , when you did ifup eth0 (or ifconfig eth0 up) what did you see in dmesg ?
2657 [18:32:46] <jelly> cluelessperson: the stupid thing to do would be overwriting e1000e.ko that's already somewhere under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/
2658 [18:33:00] <cluelessperson> jelly: The other is, "3a:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:15d8] (rev 21)"
2659 [18:33:11] <jelly> ,pciid 8086:15d8
2660 [18:33:12] <judd> [8086:15d8] is 'Ethernet Connection (4) I219-V' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
2661 [18:33:17] <shtrb> Oh shit
2662 [18:33:22] <jelly> that's better
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2667 [18:34:05] <jelly> added sometimes around 4.6 or so, /lib/modules/4.6.0-1-amd64/modules.alias:alias pci:v00008086d000015D8sv*sd*bc*sc*i* e1000e
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2670 [18:34:50] <jelly> cluelessperson: so put the driver in the right place, run depmod -a, see if the new one gets used after reboot
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2673 [18:35:28] <jelly> ,kernels
2674 [18:35:29] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2)
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2676 [18:36:16] <jelly> and if there was an up-to-date kernel in wheezy-backports you'd also be told to upgrade that, and the rest of your wheezy installation
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2678 [18:36:43] <somiaj> Isn't there a wheezy-backports-sloppy, that is where such a kernel, if it existed, would live.
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2685 [18:38:04] <jelly> I don't think anyone bothered to backport 4.9 for wheezy
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2690 [18:39:26] <mrig> Hello folks, I'd like to ask your advice, I am running ubuntu 16.04 and have just found out that my skylake processor is eligible for a patch. Any advice for this, I believe that it is a debian patch that I will be applying?
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2692 [18:39:43] <qw__> guys is it possible to configure specific options for 1 package in unattended-upgrades?
2693 [18:40:02] <qw__> for example I want a package to respond 'N' when it asks to replece configs
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2695 [18:40:04] <cluelessperson> jelly: well copying it there didn't seem to do it, I'm atempting to install the kernel development files so I can do make install
2696 [18:40:04] <greycat> mrig: ask #ubuntu
2697 [18:40:06] <jelly> cluelessperson: your customers will need access to the exact same version of driver source matching the .ko you shipped
2698 [18:40:15] <jelly> cluelessperson: did you run depmod -a?
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2700 [18:40:21] <cluelessperson> jelly: I did
2701 [18:40:29] <jelly> cluelessperson: and possibly got rid of the original e1000e.ko ?
2702 [18:40:38] <mrig> greycat: Hi, I did and your mirror over there said :~ ask #debian :D
2703 [18:40:46] <cluelessperson> jelly: I don't think it was there, but there's no telling what my coworker did to this.
2704 [18:41:05] <towo`> mrig, but in #debian is no ubuntu-support
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2706 [18:41:19] <cluelessperson> jelly: I'm going to have him reinstall this fresh, can you remind me where I should look to see if the driver already exists?
2707 [18:41:26] <mrig> sure, just asking for friendly advice :)
2708 [18:41:36] <cluelessperson> jelly: then I'll try to do make install depmod -a and reboot
2709 [18:41:39] <mrig> towo`^
2710 [18:41:40] <jelly> cluelessperson: don't think, verify. find /lib/modules/3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 -name 'e1000e*'
2711 [18:41:54] <towo`> if that module was not compiled against that running kernel, it's useless to copy it over
2712 [18:42:03] <towo`> it will never work
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2714 [18:42:46] <mrig> I have considered trying debian on this machine, I run it on my home computer and really like the environment :) I havn't yet because the cpu was not in jessy package.
2715 [18:42:54] <jelly> towo`: working under the assumption cluelessperson's coworker is not an idiot
2716 [18:42:55] <cluelessperson> towo`: when you say "current kernel" do you mean that version? or the exact kernel running on that machine? Because in theory it's the same version across all our products..
2717 [18:43:10] <cluelessperson> jelly: That might be a bad assumption in this case...
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2720 [18:43:21] <jelly> cluelessperson: ABI needs to match, at the very least
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2723 [18:43:43] <jelly> and possibly more if the driver uses gpl-only symbols
2724 [18:43:43] <mrig> There was me thinking that all the undefined behaviour was my dodgy c code :P
2725 [18:43:44] <cluelessperson> towo`: we built the module on a different machine, but the same version sure
2726 [18:44:21] <jelly> cluelessperson: what does "modinfo e1000e" say before and after you put the newer .ko in place?
2727 [18:44:24] <shtrb> maybe building dkms package for that ?
2728 [18:44:38] <mrig> turns out its intels, can feel a little better about my coding skills, or lack there of ...
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2730 [18:44:59] <jelly> cluelessperson: if the versions are different, that means you managed to put the new one in the correct place
2731 [18:45:18] <qw__> where can i find documentation for Unattended-upgrades?
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2735 [18:46:30] <qw__> man unattended-upgrades gives no manual, man unattended-upgrade only gives a man for that command specifically, i see no help for configuration
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2738 [18:47:09] <cluelessperson> jelly: So here's what's happening. We're trying to modify our product to include this driver for new hardware. What I did is copy the hard drive image from the old hardware, to the new hardware. The only thing that doesn't come up is the ethernet driver. But I have a running product.
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2741 [18:47:48] <cluelessperson> jelly: I'm having my coworker reinstall all it fresh, because he was screwing with it for awhile before I got here, then I'll check the output of "modinfo e1000e" before attempting to build my own ko from source.
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2763 [18:55:37] <mrig> Hello folks, I'd like to ask your advice, I am running ubuntu 16.04 and have just found out that my skylake processor is eligible for a patch. Any advice for this, I believe that it is a debian patch that I will be applying; Has this been done, and did it work?
2764 [18:55:41] <qw__> where can i find documentation for Unattended-upgrades?
2765 [18:56:08] <mrig> Oh well will just turn of ht for now, might up the battery life or something :)
2766 [18:56:16] <greycat> mrig: we can't tell you how to install things on Ubuntu. If they want you to manually download a .deb file from a Debian server and install it with dpkg -i, they will have to tell you where to get it and what precautions to take.
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2770 [18:58:26] <mrig> I can install dpkg ok, or perhaps there is a backport that I can include, just trying to asses the situation at the moment. Thanks for that info.
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2772 [18:58:39] <greycat> We *really* do not know what you need to do.
2773 [18:58:42] <greycat> Ask #ubuntu.
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2775 [18:59:17] <greycat> qw__: nothing in /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/ ?
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2777 [18:59:30] <cluelessperson> jelly: shtrb thanks btw
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2781 [19:00:13] <qw__> bash: cd: /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/: No such file or directory
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2784 [19:00:26] <greycat> Are you sure you've installed it?
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2787 [19:01:09] <greycat> replaced-url
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2789 [19:01:51] <forcerecon> what is messages in /var/log
2790 [19:01:57] <mrig> ok thank you guys, ill just disable it for now and follow there updates on the matter.
2791 [19:02:00] <forcerecon> what does that do?
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2794 [19:02:55] <qw__> oh did it on the wrong laptop
2795 [19:03:01] <qw__> yes i see some files over there
2796 [19:03:04] <qw__> README.md.gz
2797 [19:03:18] <qw__> no clue how to open it
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2799 [19:03:28] <qw__> man ./README.md.gz doesm
2800 [19:03:30] <qw__> t work
2801 [19:04:00] <greycat> zless
2802 [19:04:25] <qw__> oh great, thank you
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2804 [19:04:36] <shtrb> cluelessperson , I didn't help that much but you might like to check dkms
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2806 [19:05:03] <cluelessperson> shtrb: what are those?
2807 [19:05:03] <towo`> forcerecon, kidding?
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2809 [19:05:19] <towo`> forcerecon, look in it, that you haven't to ask
2810 [19:05:37] <shtrb> !dkms
2811 [19:05:37] <dpkg> Dynamic Kernel Module Support (DKMS) is a framework for generating out-of-tree Linux kernel modules. Packages using DKMS build modules during installation and when updated Linux versions are installed, provided Linux kernel headers are present (these are not installed by dkms). DKMS-managed modules are installed to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/dkms/ . The module build log file is at /var/lib/dkms/$module/$version/build/make.log
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2813 [19:06:09] <shtrb> cluelessperson ^
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2816 [19:06:40] <towo`> shtrb, what should dkms help here? without a dkms-package for that module?
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2819 [19:07:20] <shtrb> If he will build a package , next time he changes a kernel that would be auto built for him
2820 [19:07:38] <shtrb> If he doesn't switch to 4.X
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2823 [19:09:18] <forcerecon> towo`: Could not open the file “/var/log/messages”.
2824 [19:09:32] <greycat> You have to be root to read most of the logs.
2825 [19:09:33] <towo`> forcerecon, again, learn the basics
2826 [19:09:33] <forcerecon> nothing is associated with it and I cannot open it in text editor or office
2827 [19:09:40] <forcerecon> hey I am trying..
2828 [19:09:47] <greycat> "office"??!
2829 [19:09:49] <forcerecon> I am looking at all files.. one at a time
2830 [19:09:49] <greycat> jesus fuck
2831 [19:09:55] <towo`> forcerecon, less /var/log/messages, cat /war/log/messages, tail /var/log/messages
2832 [19:09:58] <greycat> Be root. Use less or tail.
2833 [19:10:00] <forcerecon> libre./.. it is a editor no
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2835 [19:10:15] <greycat> You do not fucking use LibreOffice to read log files.
2836 [19:10:19] <shtrb> forcerecon , sudo less ...
2837 [19:10:24] <forcerecon> hey.. be helpful don';t be a dick
2838 [19:10:27] <forcerecon> christ
2839 [19:10:33] <forcerecon> wtf man.. I am learning
2840 [19:10:37] <haylon> could you also do a grep -R -n searchTerm ./path/to/files ?
2841 [19:10:49] <greycat> I prefer to search within less so I have context
2842 [19:10:51] <haylon> just a suggestion
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2845 [19:10:56] <cluelessperson> jelly: to confirm, doing that find command you listed above does find the driver file in the proper locatoin, it's already there (freshly resinstalled system)
2846 [19:10:56] <forcerecon> not you haylon
2847 [19:11:18] <haylon> I usually alias that command to the term "fuzzy"
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2849 [19:11:27] <shtrb> forcerecon , what ?
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2851 [19:11:30] <haylon> so I can a fuzzy find of the term in the files or directories that I care for
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2853 [19:11:50] <forcerecon> shtrb: I have no idea what that question is in reference too
2854 [19:11:53] <haylon> Then you can Vim/Nano/whatever the file
2855 [19:12:04] <shtrb> you said don't be a dick
2856 [19:12:09] <greycat> He was talking to me.
2857 [19:12:22] <greycat> I was aghast that he's trying to use LibreOffice to read /var/log/messages
2858 [19:12:27] <forcerecon> you know this channel is support.. it would be best if people just helped instead of being nasty
2859 [19:12:38] <cluelessperson> jelly: so I'm not sure how to proceed
2860 [19:12:41] <haylon> "wording"
2861 [19:12:45] <forcerecon> just help.. if I ask a question its because I don't know and I need help.. you think I did not try things before I asked
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2866 [19:13:18] <shtrb> forcerecon , please don't use such things (like libreoffice) to open logs. it's just not a good idea
2867 [19:13:28] <haylon> forcerecon: I use that grep command above, get a line number, and start there with less or vim
2868 [19:13:28] <greycat> Use less to read most text files. If they're SMALL (and if you know in advance that they are small, and do not contain weird unprintable binary characters), then you may consider using cat instead.
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2870 [19:13:36] <greycat> If they're compressed (*.gz) then use zless.
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2872 [19:13:48] <cluelessperson> forcerecon: what are you trying to do?
2873 [19:13:53] <teraflops> forcerecon: to be honest, people do not use libreoffice for reading logs…
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2876 [19:14:22] <greycat> I generally assume that people here have at least, like *one day* worth of basic unix experience.
2877 [19:14:33] <greycat> Especially names that I have been seeing in IRC for weeks/months.
2878 [19:14:42] <haylon> doesn't mean chew his head off though. I work with IT Professionals who use word to view logs or write code.
2879 [19:14:42] <forcerecon> I am going through all files located in the folders on linux one at a time to see what they are.. some are protected.. I am trying to see what you gurus do in order to look at them the proper way other then me just hacking my way through things
2880 [19:14:52] <shtrb> greycat that is not #unix :)
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2884 [19:15:27] <haylon> forcerecon, do you have questions about specific directories, or just files in general?
2885 [19:15:53] <forcerecon> no worries, thanks I got it.. I figured it out.....
2886 [19:15:58] <greycat> Apparently he's asking for his intro to basic unix concepts like "use less/cat to read a file". Which he's getting now.
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2888 [19:16:10] <mutante> forcerecon: find .
2889 [19:16:21] <teraflops> haylon: this is not windows though
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2891 [19:16:37] <humbot> users, permissions, the directory tree...
2892 [19:16:45] <mutante> forcerecon: that literal command "find ." lists all files in all subdirs below where i am, using it a lot
2893 [19:16:49] <haylon> I know, and it drives me up the wall
2894 [19:16:51] <Quo-fan> hmmm
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2896 [19:17:05] <greycat> There are relatively few places where I would care to run "find ."
2897 [19:17:16] <greycat> At least not without some other options to limit the results.
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2899 [19:17:42] <haylon> forcerecon, I would look to Google for this question. You can PM me and I'll tell you of a few places I'd send people
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2901 [19:17:54] <cluelessperson> forcerecon: most of us use the terminal to manage our systems
2902 [19:18:13] <forcerecon> thanks for the help.. I am on my way.. I am doing fine now.. I just want to know where all files are and what they contain.. one at a time..
2903 [19:18:17] <forcerecon> thakns
2904 [19:18:18] <forcerecon> thanks
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2906 [19:18:31] <humbot> its not a question of terminal or not, its opening a log file in a read-only way
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2910 [19:18:55] <teraflops> forcerecon: this set of tutorials are still fine for getting a linux introduction: replaced-url
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2913 [19:19:24] <mutante> come on people, you can pick between 2 options, answer his question or don't. what's with all the meta stuff like talking about using Google and PMs and "but i don't do it this way" .. sheesh
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2916 [19:19:46] <greycat> What question?
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2918 [19:20:11] <teraflops> im not sure if that was a ragequit
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2920 [19:20:18] <haylon> probably
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2922 [19:20:39] <haylon> I learned the hardway many years ago, do the prerequisite research first
2923 [19:21:03] <forcerecon> thanks gent.. I am fine.. I got what I needed.. I am working through the OS.. you have to realize that when you ask questions here there is an assumption of where they are.. you guys just say things like edit this file.. xxxx.xx some place some where some time.. unless I know where every single file is.. or have at least seen it once.. I can't answer properly.. just trying to memorize where things are and what they do..
2924 [19:21:11] <forcerecon> so thanks for the help.. I am going well.
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2926 [19:21:51] <haylon> Hopefully you find your own method forcerecon
2927 [19:22:01] <haylon> everyone learns differently
2928 [19:22:09] <teraflops> I can understand people facedesk when a person that is not new here says is using libreoffice for reading logs
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2930 [19:23:18] <jelly> cluelessperson: interesting. Then, pastebin the complete output of "dmesg" and "lsmod" with new driver in place
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2938 [19:26:05] <cluelessperson> jelly: right now I'm cloning the harddrive of the old system, to the new system with new hardware
2939 [19:26:18] <cluelessperson> jelly: I'll doa pastebin shortly
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2948 [19:28:53] <cluelessperson> jelly: confirmed hardware works because I'm using ethernet with clonezilla to image the hard drive over.
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2950 [19:29:03] <cluelessperson> booting up and will get dmesg contents
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2977 [19:46:45] <bolt> I used to have a bunch of lines with "bridge_ports eth1.N" on my bridges in /etc/network/interfaces to configure my vlan interfaces for QEMU/KVM to bind to. can I still do that in stretch? i am seeing conflicting news about whether or not this is supported still. what should I be doing instead?
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2980 [19:47:26] <spacebug^> bolt: I'm using that right now in Stretch
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2985 [19:48:05] <spacebug^> bolt: like so -> replaced-url
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2987 [19:48:26] <jelly> bolt: you can still use configuration via interfaces in stretch, never put a vlan iface into a bridge so no idea about that
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2989 [19:49:01] <jelly> but vlan config and bridge config still works
2990 [19:49:01] <spacebug^> oh, sorry, missed the part about "vlan"
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2992 [19:50:08] <bolt> the changelog on upgrade says "On this version we've also removed integration with the vlan package, we're leaving vlan setup to the ifupdown package"
2993 [19:50:49] <bolt> the manual for "interfaces" on jessie says "For compatibility with bridge-utils package, if bridge_ports option is specified, VLAN interface configuration is not performed."
2994 [19:51:01] <bolt> guess i'll have to dig up the stretch manual
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2999 [19:52:03] <bolt> ah. that clause is indeed gone here replaced-url
3000 [19:52:17] <bolt> guess ifupdown handles it then
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3005 [19:53:46] <cluelessperson> jelly: what are you looking for in that log?
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3010 [19:57:16] <cluelessperson> jelly: lsmod replaced-url
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3012 [19:57:22] <cluelessperson> jelly: dmesg replaced-url
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3014 [19:58:29] <jelly> cluelessperson: signs of e1000e misbehaving
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3018 [19:59:08] <jelly> cluelessperson: but it's not loaded at all?
3019 [19:59:10] <C]leaneR> irccloud: irc.ladysclub-irc.net 6667 room #Outlaws :) join and get @/& nice users and friendly talking.
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3035 [20:03:12] <jelly> cluelessperson: what happens if you modprobe it manually?
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3037 [20:05:11] <cybrNaut> Debian is not on the list of free distributions: replaced-url
3038 [20:05:36] <cybrNaut> i thought debian already excluded non-free software from the standard repos
3039 [20:05:36] <nkuttler> cybrNaut: we know
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3042 [20:05:59] <cybrNaut> any reason i shouldn't use gNewSense instead?
3043 [20:06:06] <cybrNaut> gNewSense is on the list, and it's debian based
3044 [20:06:10] <nkuttler> cybrNaut: that's not good enough. and debian puts fsf docs into non-free. they are not big fans of debian..
3045 [20:06:19] <cluelessperson> jelly: how to do that? modprobe e1000e ?
3046 [20:06:28] <nkuttler> cybrNaut: use whatever you like. ask the gnewsense people about their distro..
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3054 [20:07:33] <cybrNaut> nkuttler: why would fsf docs be in non-free? what's an fsf doc, exactly? do you mean GPL'd docs?
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3056 [20:08:24] <nkuttler> cybrNaut: because they are not free according to the debian guidelines
3057 [20:08:44] <nkuttler> they have several manuals with invariant sections and such iirc
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3093 [20:22:27] <jelly> cluelessperson: yes
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3096 [20:27:24] <cluelessperson> jelly: um, no output?
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3098 [20:27:42] <cluelessperson> jelly: modprobe e1000e -vvv shows some debug info, but nothing looks, wrong?
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3100 [20:28:07] <jelly> cluelessperson: it's in dmesg
3101 [20:28:48] <jelly> and lsmod if it loaded properly. And an eth* or en* iface ought to appear
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3103 [20:29:22] <cluelessperson> jelly: I don't see anything appearing in dmesg related to that
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3105 [20:30:16] <jelly> cluelessperson: did it load?
3106 [20:30:37] <cluelessperson> jelly: I don't know how to tell, I don't see any errors
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3108 [20:30:49] * cluelessperson hates silent operations
3109 [20:30:53] <jelly> cluelessperson: look at lsmod!
3110 [20:31:12] <jelly> silence and exit status 0 means success
3111 [20:31:18] <jelly> that's fine
3112 [20:31:47] <cluelessperson> jelly: lsmod shows e1000e as the very first loaded module now
3113 [20:32:00] <jelly> cluelessperson: look at modinfo e1000e, is the right pci id listed there under an alias line?
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3115 [20:32:58] <jelly> if it's not then you either got the wrong e1000e or you built the wrong e1000e :-)
3116 [20:33:03] <cluelessperson> jelly: there are maybe a hundred aliases
3117 [20:33:27] <jelly> use grep
3118 [20:33:31] <cluelessperson> which address do I need to search for (thinks it's from earlier)
3119 [20:33:56] <jelly> cluelessperson: one matching the PCI ID for your card
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3121 [20:34:31] <jelly> meaning "this driver will try to bind and drive this piece of hardware if it's present in your system"
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3124 [20:35:52] <jelly> so if your card is... [8086:15d8], you'll probably want to modinfo e1000e | grep 15D8
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3126 [20:36:01] <cluelessperson> jelly: There's a ton of 8086s, but no 15D8
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3129 [20:36:36] <uxfi> cluelessperson; hello there
3130 [20:36:45] <cluelessperson> uxfi: hi
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3133 [20:36:58] <jelly> cluelessperson: so either you're seeing the original e1000e driver from debian's kernel, or the one your coworker built was not the right version for this card, or was built incorrectly
3134 [20:37:12] <cluelessperson> jelly: this is indeed the original
3135 [20:37:20] <jelly> cluelessperson: where did you put your new e1000e.ko ?
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3137 [20:37:34] <cluelessperson> jelly: I have not installed it yet, this is a fresh system
3138 [20:37:38] <jelly> ...
3139 [20:37:52] <jelly> then WHY THE FUCK are you surprised it does not work
3140 [20:38:24] <cluelessperson> jelly: I don't know what e1000e means, I would assume it's the same driver that supports the same devices.
3141 [20:38:33] <cluelessperson> I'm guessing I'm wrong.
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3143 [20:38:55] <cluelessperson> also, I haven't verified that what my coworker downloaded, even if it's an update to e1000e, is correct for the hardware.
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3145 [20:39:04] <jelly> cluelessperson: it's different versions of the same, evolving, driver
3146 [20:39:19] <cluelessperson> jelly: ah, so they probably add support for newly adapted hardware.
3147 [20:39:28] <cluelessperson> jelly: in which case, I definitely probably need to install the new driver.
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3149 [20:39:32] <jelly> that's the whole bloody point of installing the newer one
3150 [20:39:54] <jelly> and that's the question you started with
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3155 [20:40:29] <cluelessperson> jelly: sorry I don't mean to frustrate you, I reinstalled and started fresh with the intention of reviewing why the driver already installed doesn't work, I guess that explains it
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3158 [20:40:50] <jelly> I kind of assumed you knew _why_ you were doing the thing you were trying to do
3159 [20:41:39] <cluelessperson> jelly: Eh, I know it's new hardware, but I figured you'd have different drivers for different hardware, not that you'd update drivers unless you had to
3160 [20:41:47] <cluelessperson> I think it would cause confusion
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3164 [20:43:32] <jelly> open source hw support doesn't hide the fact "new" driver and hardware is 99% the same as old driver and hw
3165 [20:44:01] <jelly> changes in both hw and sw parts are usually incremental
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3181 [20:54:10] <jelly> cluelessperson: it's not that confusing, because a normal user gets told "you need a kernel 4.5 or newer", they install a fresh enough kernel and get the updated driver (together with other 1000 changes)
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3187 [20:55:58] <cluelessperson> jelly: I cannot make the source without "kerenel development package" installed, and can't seem to find what I need to install
3188 [20:56:07] * cluelessperson needs a new job
3189 [20:56:26] <cluelessperson> this crap is so ancient is't difficult to manage/support
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3268 [21:26:08] <TheRoo> what does debian mipsel use if not systemd?
3269 [21:26:15] <TheRoo> pid1 is init
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3271 [21:26:52] <greycat> PID 1 is always init. You have to check what the /sbin/init symlink is pointing to.
3272 [21:27:28] <TheRoo> ok, checking
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3274 [21:28:03] <TheRoo> to its
3275 [21:28:06] <TheRoo> itself
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3277 [21:28:27] <cluelessperson> jelly: thanks for your help
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3279 [21:28:35] <TheRoo> i just want to be able to run a command on startup, want to know how i can do it
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3281 [21:29:06] <greycat> Depends on the command. If it's simple and you don't want to build an infrastructure out of it, stick it in /etc/rc.local
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3283 [21:29:35] <TheRoo> like put it in that file?
3284 [21:29:42] <greycat> !rc.local
3285 [21:29:42] <dpkg> /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>.
3286 [21:29:57] <TheRoo> thank you!
3287 [21:30:02] <greycat> err... probably don't ask it about init.d
3288 [21:30:20] <greycat> that factoid obviously predates there being a choice of init systems
3289 [21:31:05] <TheRoo> ik about init.d, it has all the initscripts
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3291 [21:31:24] <TheRoo> that i can make symlinks to in rc0.d and stuff
3292 [21:31:30] <TheRoo> but i just forgot about rc.local
3293 [21:31:34] <TheRoo> ty for your help
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3295 [21:31:44] <TheRoo> been time i used rc.
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3351 [22:00:03] <hoerup> hmm have a nfs issue- have 2 vm's - both distupgraded from 8.8 to 9 - one mounts a nfsv4 perfectly - the other mounts the same nfs volume as a 16mb volume (but it is 30TB)
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3355 [22:00:29] <hoerup> ... nfs tools and libs are the same
3356 [22:00:40] <hoerup> ... uname -a shows the same
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3378 [22:12:41] <ozzloy> thanks everyone for all your help over the years and years
3379 [22:12:48] <ozzloy> super duper appreciated
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3403 [22:28:45] <leachim6> so how are you folks liking Stretch?
3404 [22:29:00] <leachim6> running smooth as butter for me, updated a system that has gone from wheezy->jessie->stretch
3405 [22:29:01] <leachim6> no problems
3406 [22:29:52] <greycat> Most people have a similar experience, but there are some who get clobbered by issues with video drivers, firmware, DE changes, ...
3407 [22:30:13] <leachim6> I should mention, this install is headless on a server
3408 [22:30:24] <greycat> Oh, that makes life much easier :)
3409 [22:30:46] <leachim6> yeah, I run ubuntu as my main desktop for work, don't judge me
3410 [22:30:52] <leachim6> I'm one of the 1% that actually likes unity
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3412 [22:30:57] <greycat> no-DE server upgrades are probably the most tested thing
3413 [22:31:36] <leachim6> what's your deb setup look like?
3414 [22:31:39] <leachim6> servers/workstations ?
3415 [22:31:54] <greycat> All of the above, yes.
3416 [22:31:56] <nvz> does anyone know how to config links2 for magnet links? it says no program specified for magnet and using magnet as content type for associations doesnt fix it, idk what the content type for a magnet link is suppose to be
3417 [22:32:02] <jelly> laptops!
3418 [22:32:06] <jelly> fridges?
3419 [22:32:22] <leachim6> I love debian
3420 [22:32:27] <greycat> I don't deal with laptops/wireless myself.
3421 [22:32:37] <leachim6> it's gotten 900% better in the last decade
3422 [22:32:37] <teraflops> I love my cat!
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3424 [22:32:52] <jelly> nvz, dunno, but after installing transmission it registered itself... somehow
3425 [22:32:52] <leachim6> when I first used linux it was redhat 5 in 2003 or so
3426 [22:32:55] <leachim6> oh boy
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3428 [22:33:21] <nvz> jelly: i have transmission daemon and remote-cli installed
3429 [22:33:32] <nvz> and transmission-remote
3430 [22:33:38] <leachim6> I run all media acquisition apps in docker nowadays
3431 [22:33:41] <teraflops> I remember redhat desktop, when login as root there was a red wallpaper with a bomb in the middle :P
3432 [22:33:51] <leachim6> I orderd the CDs in the mail
3433 [22:33:52] <leachim6> the mail!
3434 [22:35:17] <nvz> ive googled the shit out of this and there is no info on what links2 expects in the content type field one can only assume when it says no program for magnet, that magnet is the content type but apparently not
3435 [22:35:37] <leachim6> can't you just register the magnet:// protocol?
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3438 [22:35:43] * leachim6 reads manpage on links2
3439 [22:35:47] <nvz> mime types always had more complicated names than that so idk
3440 [22:35:54] <teraflops> nvz: not really
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3442 [22:36:14] <teraflops> idk if links2 will handle them properly though
3443 [22:36:25] <nvz> it wad typically foo/bar or something
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3446 [22:36:53] <nvz> the links webpage says it has handled it for quite some time and jelly just said it works for him
3447 [22:37:05] <th0r> nvz, can't you tell links2 it is a torrent? that should invoke the torrent client
3448 [22:37:06] <leachim6> I know it's possible
3449 [22:37:47] <teraflops> nvz: so which app will manage the magnets, transmission daemon or remote-cli?
3450 [22:37:59] <nvz> its a royal pita when i need a torrent and i gotta do some rube shit to get it out of links and into transmission-remote
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3452 [22:38:15] <nvz> teraflops: transmission-remote -a %
3453 [22:38:50] <nvz> teraflops: oddly enough remote-cli is an ncurses interface and remote is the actual cli interface
3454 [22:38:52] <teraflops> nvz: create a ~/.local/share/applications/transmission-remote.desktop file
3455 [22:39:05] <teraflops> if there isnt already one
3456 [22:39:19] <nvz> teraflops: what does that do for me
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3460 [22:40:10] <nvz> links has an associations system i just dont know what to put in the content type field to get it to match a magnet link
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3462 [22:40:39] <teraflops> nvz: put replaced-url
3463 [22:40:53] <nvz> huh?
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3467 [22:41:29] <nvz> look here lucy, you gots some splainin to do
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3469 [22:41:59] <teraflops> then, run xdg-mime default magmatv.desktop x-scheme-handler/magnet
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3471 [22:42:24] <leachim6> I wonder when Raspbian is going to switch to Stretch as mainline
3472 [22:42:33] <teraflops> nvz: there's no explanation, this is how xdg-mime works :)
3473 [22:42:37] <nvz> ok and this url turns magnets into torrent files presumably?
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3475 [22:43:45] <teraflops> sorry I pastefailed it's xdg-mime default transmission-remote.desktop x-scheme-handler/magnet
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3477 [22:44:10] <leachim6> you want some grated parmesan with that copypasta? heh
3478 [22:44:19] <teraflops> nvz: you just tell the system how to deal with magnet urls
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3480 [22:45:11] <teraflops> xdg-mime handles it, when you open a magnet it looks at it's mime database and serach the handles, which is define in the desktop file
3481 [22:45:24] <teraflops> its^
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3484 [22:45:48] <teraflops> bah sorry for the typos
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3488 [22:46:41] <teraflops> nvz: for query a mimetype you type e.g xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/magnet
3489 [22:47:00] <jelly> nvz: not in links, tho, in chrome.
3490 [22:47:06] <nvz> i think youre smokin eggnog
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3492 [22:47:12] <MarioMey> Hi, there.
3493 [22:47:19] <nvz> jelly: yes my thoughts exactly
3494 [22:47:25] <leachim6> hi MarioMey
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3496 [22:47:41] <MarioMey> I want to start using firefox classic, not ESR version. How to do it? From any PPA?
3497 [22:47:57] <teraflops> nvz: I told you so, way up in the buffer xdg-mime query filetype
3498 [22:47:58] <greycat> What do you mean by "classic"? Some older version?
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3500 [22:48:06] <MarioMey> Just "firefox".
3501 [22:48:20] <MarioMey> I've installed Debian 9 and it cames with Firefox ESR.
3502 [22:48:23] <greycat> You mean "ANTI-classic". Bleeding. New. Full of bugs. Changing all the fucking time. Well, sorry, use upstream then.
3503 [22:48:37] <teraflops> nvz: 22:36:14 teraflops ⎸ idk if links2 will handle them properly though
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3505 [22:48:45] <nvz> teraflops: i dont think youre aware of the issue
3506 [22:48:49] <teraflops> bah I cannot use the phone, sorry
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3508 [22:49:10] <teraflops> the issue is with mimetypes and how to handle them?
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3510 [22:49:20] <nvz> links2 handles magnets, it just does it in is own way, using its own associations method
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3512 [22:49:34] <jelly> greycat: that's just "release". They also have a beta and alpha (nightly) builds that make you bleed more
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3514 [22:49:54] <teraflops> nvz: then convery magnets to torrent files
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3516 [22:50:00] <teraflops> convert
3517 [22:50:06] <MarioMey> greycat: I use Mate desktop and someone from firefox-esr list told me it was about window manager.
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3519 [22:50:14] <nvz> my issue is not knowing how it callls ts content types does in call it xscheme/magnet or x-scheme/magnet or foobarbaz:&,agnet
3520 [22:50:30] <nvz> i've tried the obvious
3521 [22:50:43] <MarioMey> greycat: sorry, I have an issue by using it.
3522 [22:50:51] <teraflops> you can convert magnets to torrents
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3524 [22:50:58] <MarioMey> It's about moving tabs from window to other window.
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3526 [22:51:08] <MarioMey> Alt-Tab doesn't work when dragging a tab.
3527 [22:51:16] <nvz> i cant do shit with them in links if it cant match the damn content type
3528 [22:51:28] <teraflops> then at least with rtorrent i just out them in a folder and the program takes care of them
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3530 [22:51:43] <teraflops> put (/me blames the phone again)
3531 [22:51:45] <greycat> if you want to use non-ESR firefox, just download it from replaced-url
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3533 [22:52:00] <MarioMey> greycat: can I have both versions?
3534 [22:52:08] <MarioMey> installed
3535 [22:52:11] <greycat> Yes.
3536 [22:52:12] <nvz> thats the issue, not the backend, not the mime support, its how links defines its content types as it calls them
3537 [22:52:20] <MarioMey> Thanks.
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3550 [22:55:24] <teraflops> nvz: first hit, I think you already read it, replaced-url
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3558 [22:58:52] <nvz> teraflops: yes and as he said x-scheme/magnet does not work, neither does x-schem-handler/magnet, xscheme/magnet, magnet, magnet: or anything else i tried
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3562 [22:59:51] <nvz> and the dumb reply doess not tell you what to use. and its a hard thing to google for because "links" and "magnet" are very ambiguous terms
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3572 [23:02:26] <nvz> links just calls it "magnet" in the error youd think thats what it expects as the content type
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3574 [23:02:57] <nvz> i get nothing of use stracing this error
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3579 [23:03:46] <nvz> doesnt seem to be documented how it names its "content types"
3580 [23:04:16] <ryouma> yesterday i ran across the problem that chromium would not launch deluge for torrent files. apparently both .config and .local are used for such purposes. neither is mentioned in the rather obtuse man page for a command that does associations. dunno if links uses that mechanism. in any case, i was neutral on the systemd controversy until yesterday when i found out that the same group of people were responsible f
3581 [23:04:16] <ryouma> or both systemd and xdg. :/
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3587 [23:07:48] <nvz> links has a setup>associations thing with label,content type,program the label is arbitray, the program i know, the content type is a mystery.. it handles content in house it doesnt look anywhere but its own config and launches via shell or xdg based on its own internal content type lookup mechanism
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3590 [23:08:20] <nvz> you can specify how it does it via shell or x but only after you put a matcher in for the content type
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3592 [23:08:44] * nvz gets the source code
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3596 [23:11:37] <armin> ryouma: This conversation has been locked and limited to collaborators.
3597 [23:11:59] <ryouma> armin: not sure what you mean?
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3599 [23:12:16] <armin> ryouma: that's basically what happens with almost all bug reports against systemd on github.
3600 [23:12:38] <armin> ryouma: apart from putting them on "not-a-bug".
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3602 [23:13:06] <ryouma> armin: ah, i was complaining about xdg
3603 [23:13:15] <nvz> heh
3604 [23:13:23] <armin> carry on then. :)
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3610 [23:15:56] <nvz> its simple enough to use screen to copy/paste hashes from links to transmission-remote but i cant run links2 -g inside screen and links2 -g doesnt play nice with gpm its just all sorts of aggrivating
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3612 [23:16:46] <nvz> i plan to resolve this and see about getting this documented
3613 [23:17:12] <nvz> the source finally downloaded hopefully it offers clues
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3621 [23:19:59] <ryouma> what can i do to look up the identifier in "Couldn't find support for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:19.0': not supported by any plugin"? like, what commands can i run on that?
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3627 [23:25:42] <teraflops> nvz: eh works for me
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3634 [23:29:23] <ryouma> in jessie, when i do shutdown -r now, it takes a really long time going through "a stop job is waiting for". then it says target shutdown reached and the system does not reboot or shutdown. it just hangs.
3635 [23:29:45] <ralpheeee> how long would it take for linux 4.12 to reach unstable / testing ?
3636 [23:29:52] <ryouma> (there are notifications after the stop job wating for, and all notifications say ok)
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3643 [23:31:43] <lavinho> good night
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3645 [23:32:13] <lavinho> how to install rtl8188eus
3646 [23:32:17] <lavinho> ?
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3667 [23:44:39] <Epakai> any idea why one lightdm install would use my ~/.Xmodmap file but another wouldn't? i'm not aware of anything I did on the working host to make it run (i understood lightdm handles it), file permissions are the same
3668 [23:45:08] <somiaj> it might be you X session you are using vs lightdm
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3673 [23:46:59] <Epakai> i've looked through the xsession files and my local config files. they're both running i3 off very similar configs. is there somewhere particular i should look?
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3702 [23:57:13] <Jonny135> Hi there! I looking for a help regarding a 3G modem used with wvdial on a debian computer. in Wvdial I have a error: Modem not responding
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3704 [23:57:43] <Jonny135> I checked and the /dev/ttyUSB0 are present
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3706 [23:58:28] <Jonny135> About the config in wvdial, I used a configuration that was working in the past
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3708 [23:59:03] <Jonny135> Anyone has an idea what I could check to narrow the problem?
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