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3 [00:01:04] <velix> I finally did it !!!
4 [00:01:13] <velix> The Poweredge needs non-free firmware.
5 [00:01:16] <dvs> you rode a bike?
6 [00:01:18] <velix> Otherwise: no network.
7 [00:01:34] <velix> I've never seen that before. Normally it works even without drivers.
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12 [00:04:08] <user_`> how i can debug a hexchat segfault reason?
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14 [00:04:24] <user_`> when i join some specific network (belongs to me) it just segfaults, even when there is no motd
15 [00:04:36] <user_`> with and without ssl
16 [00:04:44] <user_`> no problem on other networks including freenode
17 [00:05:12] <mrr0butt> velix, there are non-free images with all the non-free firmware
18 [00:05:13] <mrr0butt> replaced-url
19 [00:05:27] <velix> mrr0butt: yeah, I know ;)
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21 [00:05:33] <velix> mrr0butt: but I never htought I would need it
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36 [00:11:05] <maxxe> user`, change client :)
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64 [00:24:09] <jasonwc> I installed the KDE task using tasksel. However, when I remove the task none of the packages it installed, which are marked as "automatic" are removed. Running apt-get autoremove shows no packages to remove.
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72 [00:27:24] <jasonwc> jasonwc, When I removed the tasksel package, only a handful of packages were removed of the 600+ it initially installed. This is obvious from the logs. replaced-url
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76 [00:28:41] <simp_> jasonwc, i'm not sure, but give autoclean a shot
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78 [00:28:59] <simp_> although, i think that only removes files
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85 [00:33:31] <maher> systemctl is-system-running says starting - so i assume something didn't start up properly - how do i find out exactly what?
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87 [00:33:49] <jasonwc> simp_, My understanding is that apt-get autoremove should get rid of packages that were installed as a dependency of a manually installed package that has since been removed
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101 [00:41:37] <velix> Stretch makes MANY problems on servers :(
102 [00:41:56] <velix> After setting it up, my PowerEdge hangs in a loop, since Debian thinks, I've got a Radeon chipset.
103 [00:42:05] <velix> It's an ATI 1000 something. Pre-Radeon, I think.
104 [00:42:36] <velix> ATI ES1000
105 [00:42:42] <Brigo> velix, you have a server running X or what?
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107 [00:42:55] <velix> Brigo: don't ask me why. I've choosen standard system utilities.
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109 [00:43:08] <velix> Brigo: Never done that before, but didn't think this will install X.
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111 [00:43:43] <velix> yep... damn, have to reinstall debian :(
112 [00:43:52] <velix> I'm feeling like Windows 95.
113 [00:43:55] <velix> :D
114 [00:44:14] <Brigo> velix, you can just remove X packages and dependencies.
115 [00:44:14] <velix> Can I use GRUB to stop X ?
116 [00:44:19] <velix> Brigo: I can't go in.
117 [00:44:25] <velix> It stops after 5 seconds ina boot loop.
118 [00:44:25] <Brigo> rescue mode
119 [00:44:42] <velix> Brigo: I've never worked in rescude mode. Damn it takes MINUTES to load the RAID controller.
120 [00:44:59] <velix> let me try vga=normal"
121 [00:45:09] <Brigo> velix, it shouldn't. It the same boot secuence but shorter.
122 [00:45:38] <velix> great. I can't escape the boot loop.
123 [00:45:51] <velix> Powerdown by button isn't supported on servers :(
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125 [00:46:18] <Brigo> velix, try init=/bin/bash
126 [00:46:38] <velix> ok... rebooting ... hope this won't kill my disks.
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128 [00:47:30] <velix> have to file this as a bug
129 [00:47:36] <velix> Veeery bad bug.
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133 [00:48:44] <user_`> lol, standard system utilities areen't supposed to install X Oo wtf... was just about to install stretch on my poweredge too lol
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136 [00:49:44] <jasonwc> standard system utilities does not include X...
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140 [00:50:12] <jasonwc> velix, If you run sudo tasksel, does it show Debian Desktop environment?
141 [00:50:17] <tx> I bet ya just accidentally had it ticked.
142 [00:50:20] <jasonwc> or any sub options
143 [00:50:29] <user_`> it appears that velix has installed standard system utilities and it installed X server
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145 [00:50:58] <jasonwc> And he verified the issue isn't user error?
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147 [00:51:20] <jasonwc> Worst case you can do a minimal install with debootstrap and go from there
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149 [00:51:30] <jasonwc> though, I haven't had this issue
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153 [00:53:00] <dodo> Hello, I have installed Stretch and I'm trying to install 'roundcube'. mariaDB was needed and installed. No password was asked for the administrative user in the DB. When installing roundcube, is asking me for the administrative password. I'm using an empty password but it fails. what should I do?
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155 [00:54:10] <TomG2> dodo, dunno, you can try dpkg-reconfigure mariadb (or whatever the correct package name is) to see if it'll ask for a password
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157 [00:55:21] <velix> jasonwc: But it installed GNOME etc.
158 [00:55:33] <velix> user_`: yep... I select standard system utilies and SSH server.
159 [00:55:38] <velix> it even installed apache2 !
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165 [00:56:38] <user_`> wtf
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168 [00:57:06] <tx> Yeahh...
169 [00:57:12] <tx> Try and reproduce that.
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178 [00:59:36] <jasonwc> Well, I think I found a bug in tasksel. If I install a package (or meta package) with apt-get and then remove said package, apt-get asks me if I want to remove all the packages that were installed automatically as dependencies. apt-get autoremove does the job. If I install a task with tasksel, although it marks all dependencies as automatic, it doesn't add the packages to the autoremove list.
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184 [01:04:48] <velix> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] ES1000 (rev 02)
185 [01:04:54] <velix> Why does Debian detect this as Radeon?
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188 [01:05:56] <velix> Oh, all my friends are gone: apt-get install cfdisk sfdisk
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190 [01:06:34] <velix> Is it all about parted in Stretch ?
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194 [01:07:59] <maher> velix: they shoudl be in util-linux
195 [01:08:40] <velix> maher: hehe, really? tasksel installed ALL but util-linux? :)
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200 [01:09:14] <velix> maher: oh, they've already been installed :)
201 [01:09:16] <velix> I'm quiet now.
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203 [01:10:45] <velix> Shall I use GPT on a non-boot SSD, which is 120 GB only ?
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215 [01:20:13] <velix> Wow, that's nice for a 10-year-old server: replaced-url
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270 [01:47:23] <FunkyBob> after an update this morning [mixed stable/testing] Rhythmbox now tells me I'm missing a gstreamer plugin
271 [01:47:42] <FunkyBob> am not sure why, or how to figure out which it is?
272 [01:48:10] <FunkyBob> ah
273 [01:48:10] <FunkyBob> Rhythmbox-Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|1.0|rhythmbox|MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder|decoder-audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, mpegaudioversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3
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282 [01:52:14] <FunkyBob> fixed
283 [01:52:29] <FunkyBob> added gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 ... no idea why things changed
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340 [02:32:10] <mint> hi
341 [02:32:43] <mint> whats packet i need install for use wireless in intelbrass WBN 240?
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361 [02:49:51] <SpaceAce> hi all. after an apt-get upgrade, imagemagick broke in PHP
362 [02:49:59] <SpaceAce> pecl install imagick returns this error
363 [02:49:59] <SpaceAce> replaced-url
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370 [02:55:14] <gry> replaced-url
371 [02:57:17] <gry> SpaceAce, is there a reason you don't just install php-imagick package?
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397 [03:12:20] <nvz> im on an orangpi and i have a fairly small file i"d encrypted with luks using twofish and apparently my kernel on here doesnt suppor that ciphe, can i compile a module to satisfy CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH IS I HAVE THE HEADERS/SOURCE? IF SO HOW DO I DO THAT?
398 [03:12:42] <nvz> capslock fail
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400 [03:13:23] <gry> what operating system have you got on your orangepi?
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402 [03:14:03] <nvz> debian stretch
403 [03:14:35] <nvz> the kernel has crypto aes but id used twofish on this file
404 [03:15:28] <nvz> i can remember how to compile a whole kernel but not how to just build one module and add it
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409 [03:19:10] <nvz> the headers a def on here already.. finding the exact souce tree miche be a trick but this isnt really a platform specific part of the kernel
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411 [03:20:12] <SpaceAce> gry, php5-imagick doesn't seem to be there anymore
412 [03:20:20] <SpaceAce> i'm not running php7. it's a legacy app
413 [03:20:31] <SpaceAce> i install php-imagick but it's not loaded
414 [03:21:03] <bazhang> ,v php-imagick
415 [03:21:04] <judd> Package: php-imagick on amd64 -- buster: 3.4.3~rc2-2; sid: 3.4.3~rc2-2; stretch: 3.4.3~rc2-2
416 [03:21:07] <gry> SpaceAce, why are you not running php7? how did you install php?
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421 [03:23:27] <SpaceAce> incompatibilities with a legacy php application
422 [03:23:39] <SpaceAce> php5.x is still supported
423 [03:23:45] <SpaceAce> it needs a full rewrite
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502 [04:03:53] <rxsh> hello everyone
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521 [04:14:59] <quoth> so i just made the stretch upgrade. It appears there isn't a VirtualBox package yet (there is one in sid). Any idea as to whether one will be up soonish, or shall I just get it from the project website?
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523 [04:15:57] <dvs> quoth, it now depends if someone wants to backport it.
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528 [04:18:09] <quoth> fair enough. is the rationale for omitting the package written somewhere? I'm still kinda new.
529 [04:20:16] <dvs> probably just a matter of timing for the freeze
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533 [04:22:25] <quoth> cool
534 [04:22:36] * quoth is off to the virtualbox repo
535 [04:22:48] <dvs> ,v virtualbox
536 [04:22:49] <judd> Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2; sid/contrib: 5.1.22-dfsg-2
537 [04:23:21] <dvs> wait, it is in wheezy
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539 [04:23:37] <dvs> !tell quoth about contrib
540 [04:24:14] <quoth> yeah, everywhere but the present!
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542 [04:24:23] <quoth> dvs: thanks, i have contrib enabled.
543 [04:24:35] <quoth> *already
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546 [04:24:49] <dvs> quoth, then you should be able to install it.
547 [04:25:17] <quoth> on stretch?
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549 [04:25:36] <dvs> ah
550 [04:25:43] * dvs is still living in the past
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552 [04:26:19] <k_sze[work]> Has anybody run into an issue where apache2 fails to restart because the address:port is still not completely released after the old instance quits?
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554 [04:27:47] <k_sze[work]> e.g. if you issue /usr/sbin/service apache2 restart
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561 [04:33:31] <gry> then it works on second try or what?
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611 [05:09:48] <bazhang> ,v kazam
612 [05:09:49] <judd> Package: kazam on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.5-1; sid: 1.4.5-2; buster: 1.4.5-2; stretch: 1.4.5-2
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616 [05:11:53] <SporkWitch> kazam? like... pre-bittorrent file "sharing"? lol
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618 [05:12:08] <dvs> beat kazam!
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620 [05:12:58] <bazhang> thats kazaa
621 [05:13:08] <SporkWitch> derp; it's been a couple decades
622 [05:13:15] <bazhang> kazam is a screenshot/capture
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644 [05:23:25] <allan_wind> Where is the official sources.list documented? I found the mirror list.
645 [05:24:00] <allan_wind> also is deb.debian.org/debian-ports the same as stretch-backports?
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648 [05:24:46] <dvs> !stretch sources.list
649 [05:24:47] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
650 [05:25:35] <allan_wind> shouldn't the 2nd one be deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates ...?
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652 [05:25:54] <allan_wind> (and yes, I know dpkg is a bot)
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656 [05:26:34] <dvs> allan_wind, no, security doesn't have mirrors
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658 [05:27:01] <allan_wind> what is deb.debian.org/debian-security then?
659 [05:28:24] <allan_wind> (redirects to replaced-url
660 [05:28:33] <allan_wind> so yeah, my comment still stands, why the inconsistency?
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662 [05:29:32] <dvs> An untrusted mirror could modify security packages.
663 [05:30:12] <allan_wind> deb.debian.org is a redirect cname, so why use that for the 1st and 3rd line but not the 2nd?
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665 [05:30:30] <dvs> Because it's security!
666 [05:31:16] <allan_wind> I am still confused. Why is in insecure for the other two?
667 [05:31:35] <allan_wind> Why is it NOT insecure for the other two?
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669 [05:32:05] <allan_wind> I guess, it's cdn and not just a cname technically
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825 [07:26:26] <BobBarker> I have installed lldb-5.0 (along with lldb-server-5.0) and having issues using it. I get this error message: "error: process launch failed: unable to locate lldb-server-5.0.0". I googled and setup alternatives so lldb, lldb-server and lldb-server-5.0.0 all point to the proper binary
826 [07:26:31] <BobBarker> I still get the error
827 [07:26:46] <BobBarker> note that the package itself seems to install the binary as lldb-server-5.0 (not the lack of additiona .0)
828 [07:27:22] <BobBarker> lldb-server-5.0.0 works from the command as path of my PATH, but when I type whereis lldb-server-5.0.0 it pulls the lldb-server-5.0 reference (not sure if related, just trying to find reasons)
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833 [07:29:54] <simbalion> Every time I log in if I start owncloud client or try to access my windows drive it asks for my login password again, it says the keyring wasn't unlocked, can I change that so it unlocks automatically when I log in?
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861 [07:44:26] <yokisuci> Hm :/
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893 [08:01:31] <Lap64> hi there
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902 [08:07:13] <darxmurf> hi all
903 [08:07:26] <leibniz> i must not have jnstalled php properlyis there any specific adjustments that i need to make? i out the phpinfo script in the web directory and it is blank.
904 [08:07:42] <leibniz> whoops sorry i am on my phone
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908 [08:08:23] <leibniz> i tried php info but it did not return anything
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910 [08:08:53] <leibniz> that page is blank
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941 [08:25:00] <kimmyk> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Yondering giraffe APexil SiCC Python1320 tripkin koollman Alina-malina Igel_ fonshua Hobby_boy jpalmer Infra_3600 antismap` jgrasser Saar sobkas Nit_ TonyL RamPage Weeezy_ sloucher dave4925 Zyferus eldebrim dogui_ Len GGMethos stu_meat p_quarles _systemd_is_evil nbastin MasterNayru VampiricPadraig Linlz Delf AimHere RUDE Sco
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947 [08:28:14] <darxmurf> lulz
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979 [08:47:53] <pragomer> i have debian on sda and manjaro on sdb. both installed their grub in their mbr. pc boots from sda so only debian is shown. how can I add the grub of sdb into the menu of debian (sda) ?
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989 [08:52:34] <Mahe> pragomer, did you install manjaro after debian?
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993 [08:53:47] <pragomer> yes, after debian
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997 [08:54:11] <pragomer> both os have a separate boot partition but on different hdds
998 [08:54:28] <Mahe> pragomer, then a simple 'update-grub' (executed as root) on the debian system may do the trick
999 [08:54:40] <pragomer> this is what I thought..
1000 [08:54:49] <pragomer> but update-grub did not find an entry automatically
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1002 [08:54:58] <pragomer> let me show you my partitions
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1007 [08:57:20] <pragomer> on sdb its my debian that is running at this moment. on sda is manjaro.
1008 [08:57:34] <pragomer> sda2 and sdb1 are the boot partitions
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1010 [08:58:35] <Mahe> pragomer, on debian check that "os-prober" is installed and that the boot flag of sda2 is set before using update-grub
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1012 [08:59:34] <pragomer> os-prober is installed and boot-flag is set on /dev/sda2 (I checked in gparted)
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1014 [08:59:53] <Mahe> hmm
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1018 [09:00:52] <pragomer> so. booting works of course if I choose the different boot-hdd with bios-one-time-boot-menu.
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1020 [09:01:05] <pragomer> but it would be nicer to have it in debians grub menu
1021 [09:01:41] <pragomer> mmm.. but I could try it the other way arround: trying update-grub under manjaro and see if it finds debian. did not try yet. checking and rebooting
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1144 [10:06:06] <JohnnyCash> I was a highwayman. Along the coach roads I did ride, with sword and pistol by my side
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1147 [10:06:16] <JohnnyCash> Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade. Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade
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1150 [10:06:29] <JohnnyCash> The bastards hung me in the spring of twenty-five, but I am still alive.
1151 [10:06:37] <JohnnyCash> I was a sailor. I was born upon the tide, and with the sea I did abide.
1152 [10:06:52] <JohnnyCash> I sailed a schooner round the Horn to Mexico. I went aloft and furled the mainsail in a blow
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1154 [10:07:07] <JohnnyCash> And when the yards broke off they said that I got killed, but I am living still.
1155 [10:07:17] <JohnnyCash> I was a dam builder across the river deep and wide, where steel and water did collide
1156 [10:07:28] <JohnnyCash> A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado, I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below
1157 [10:07:41] <JohnnyCash> They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound, but I am still around
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1159 [10:07:51] <JohnnyCash> I'll always be around..and around and around and around and around
1160 [10:08:04] <JohnnyCash> I fly a starship across the Universe divide, and when I reach the other side
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1243 [10:43:14] <roshanavand> Does anyone know why chefdk is not in official repos?
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1262 [10:52:13] <nku> top_byte: what do you mean? build args?
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1266 [10:54:11] <top_byte> I need to tell the compiler to use all my cpu cores
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1277 [11:00:09] <nku> top_byte: look into debian/rules
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1316 [11:18:40] <adac> Hi there!
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1318 [11:19:31] <vlt> Hello.
1319 [11:20:04] <adac> If I place a .conf file in /etc/openvpn/ shouldn't a /etc/init.d/openvpn restart use that file and connect to the server? It doesn't seem to do that actually
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1321 [11:21:57] <vlt> adac: It used to. Now it seems you need to systemctl enable something.
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1326 [11:24:02] <warhead> where Remmina in Stretch?
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1328 [11:24:28] <nku> !tell warhead about apt-file
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1331 [11:25:10] <warhead> nku, I don't see package Remmina in Stretch...You can to seek?
1332 [11:25:15] <adac> vlt, thanks man!
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1334 [11:26:45] <jonty> @adac, check /etc/defaults/openvpn for a list of vpn's that get autostarted
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1339 [11:28:08] <adac> jonty, hmm that file doesn't exists for me
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1341 [11:28:27] <adac> would systemctl start openvpn@servervpn.service not also start it on boot then?
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1345 [11:29:46] <jonty> @adac I'm pretty sure it should be there, I assume you installed openvpn via the package?
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1347 [11:30:06] <adac> jonty, yes
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1349 [11:31:45] <jonty> @adac dpkg-query -L openvpn|grep default|tail -n1 shows it should be installed (/etc/default/openvpn)
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1352 [11:33:01] <adac> jonty, ok you are right it is there. Sorry I was in the wrong tab. Thank you very much!
1353 [11:33:23] <jonty> @adac NP
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1370 [11:40:22] <ninja4869> yo
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1401 [11:56:34] <mabynogy> hello
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1426 [12:09:58] <_aeris_> hello #debian !
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1428 [12:10:03] <_aeris_> i have a trouble with debootstrap
1429 [12:10:23] <_aeris_> it crash without error or message just after finishing extracting package
1430 [12:10:34] <_aeris_> never continue on configuring…
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1435 [12:11:23] <vlt> _aeris_: df?
1436 [12:11:54] <_aeris_> no space problem :(
1437 [12:12:01] <root__> how to change my last nickname?
1438 [12:12:07] <root__> root....
1439 [12:12:35] <_aeris_> vlt > and the trouble is VERY reproductible on this machine
1440 [12:12:47] <petemc> root__: /nick foobar
1441 [12:13:04] <_aeris_> stop exactly after the "Extracting zlib1g" and before the next "Configuring xxx"
1442 [12:13:21] <root__> it says nickname already have
1443 [12:13:31] <root__> i regiseter my nickname
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1445 [12:13:41] <_aeris_> and seems no problem at all if i run it on another folder than the one with my real harddrive
1446 [12:13:47] <gry> what nick did you register, root__?
1447 [12:13:53] <root__> zhangxun
1448 [12:14:08] <root__> can you?
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1450 [12:14:35] <_aeris_> replaced-url
1451 [12:14:36] <root__> what's is the parameter?
1452 [12:14:36] <vlt> _aeris_: So, it works in mist cases?
1453 [12:14:51] <gry> you are still connected with that nick somewhere, root__ ... if you want to switch to that nick, close your other client first
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1456 [12:15:58] <vlt> _aeris_: *most
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1458 [12:16:13] <vlt> _aeris_: What is mounted to /mnt?
1459 [12:16:20] <_aeris_> my real harddrive
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1461 [12:16:31] <_aeris_> i run the debootstrap on a live cd
1462 [12:16:38] <_aeris_> s/on/from/
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1466 [12:16:57] <vlt> _aeris_: And where does it work?
1467 [12:17:34] <_aeris_> if i debootstrap on /mnt2 for example (no mountpoint here, so RAM only)
1468 [12:17:40] <root__> oh, thanks.
1469 [12:17:40] <root__> haha
1470 [12:18:00] <_aeris_> for /mnt2, process continue after the extraction
1471 [12:18:00] <root__> this is hexchat, another xchat is running.
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1474 [12:19:17] <_aeris_> if i rsync from /mnt2 to /mnt after that, no problem
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1476 [12:20:18] <vlt> _aeris_: Sounds strange. What does `df -h /mnt` say?
1477 [12:20:33] <_aeris_> /dev/mapper/system-root 9,8G 115M 9,6G 2% /mnt
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1484 [12:23:11] <vlt> _aeris_: `mount`?
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1487 [12:23:19] <vlt> _aeris_: Is there a noexec flag set?
1488 [12:23:30] <_aeris_> /dev/mapper/system-root on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
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1491 [12:23:59] <eilgin> hi all
1492 [12:24:39] <eilgin> it seems to me that the link to the latest stable wasn't updated since it points to debian 7.x (see replaced-url
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1495 [12:25:18] <eilgin> i'd like to retrieve the latest jessie iso. Is anyone have a link that point to it ?
1496 [12:25:49] <_aeris_> eilgin > replaced-url
1497 [12:25:53] <_aeris_> iso is here now
1498 [12:26:05] <vlt> _aeris_: Hmm, no ideas then. Anything in dmesg/syslog?
1499 [12:26:12] <_aeris_> vlt > no error at all :'(
1500 [12:27:17] <vlt> _aeris_: `ls -ld /mnt`?
1501 [12:27:20] <eilgin> _aeris_ > I know. What i want is a "redirection" link to the latest old stable (e.g. jessie not wheezy)
1502 [12:27:24] <vlt> I'm just guessing now :-D
1503 [12:27:30] <_aeris_> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 juin 26 12:17 /mnt
1504 [12:27:46] <vlt> _aeris_: Looks fine.
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1520 [12:34:37] <nrs_> has anyone else had problems with encrypted swap not being activated on boot?
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1527 [12:39:32] <mabynogy> yes I saw that maybe yesterday on the chan
1528 [12:39:45] <mabynogy> can't find the answer
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1539 [12:49:20] <awal1> chromium doesn't have native support for autoscrolling like firefox?
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1544 [12:52:13] <retro-wertz> hi is debian stretch legacy bios compatible? or this is just uefi mode only. i always needed fix grub using another debian livecd
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1547 [12:53:29] <awal1> compatible
1548 [12:53:58] <BCMM> retro-wertz: works with both
1549 [12:54:23] <awal1> can't be uefi only (for now)
1550 [12:54:24] <BCMM> retro-wertz: it's just a matter of using grub vs. grub-efi
1551 [12:54:33] <retro-wertz> it doesnt seem to work. there is no i368 folder on /boot/grub where normal.mod is suppose to be
1552 [12:55:12] <zubat> It's legacy bios compatible. Had it on my laptop
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1554 [12:56:09] <zubat> Yeah I got that too with previous livecd. Downloaded the new livecd. All is well.
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1556 [12:56:55] <retro-wertz> not sure where im wrong then, if its the case. i do manual partitioning though
1557 [12:57:10] <retro-wertz> which is what i usually do with other disto
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1559 [12:57:40] <zubat> Or if you debootstrap it, it's going to work too
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1565 [13:00:05] <jelly> retro-wertz: if debian-installer detects uefi, it tries to install the grub variant for uefi. If it does not detect uefi active, then grub-pc is installed
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1567 [13:00:29] <retro-wertz> actually, my bios is set to legacy mode only, so it should not detect eufi
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1578 [13:05:55] <jelly> retro-wertz: which grub package(s) got installed, then?
1579 [13:06:03] <jelly> dpkg -l grub\* | grep ^.i
1580 [13:06:03] <dpkg> ii grub\* | grep ^.i 2.8-5 jelly's private warez collection
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1582 [13:06:36] <retro-wertz> im not on debian now... brb
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1584 [13:06:46] <retro-wertz> reboot
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1594 [13:10:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
1595 [13:10:17] <forcerecon> Good Morning all
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1600 [13:13:38] <retrowertz> ok which of the "grub" should i be looking for?
1601 [13:13:50] <retrowertz> i have grub-pc.. is this it?
1602 [13:14:21] <jelly> that's the legacy bios one yes
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1608 [13:16:03] <retrowertz> but i386 is missing,
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1611 [13:16:24] <retrowertz> had to fix it with ubuntu livecd
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1620 [13:22:14] <neokuze> hi?
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1623 [13:22:53] <neokuze> halo
1624 [13:23:42] <BluesKaj> hi
1625 [13:23:47] <retrowertz> hi
1626 [13:24:12] <neokuze> hi
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1639 [13:27:26] <neokuze> hmmm no one chat here :v
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1641 [13:27:40] <yokisuci> neokuze: huh?
1642 [13:28:06] <neokuze> e.e
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1650 [13:29:39] <yokisuci> neokuze: Sometimes there's activity here, sometimes not. Don't forget that it's early morning or something in the US
1651 [13:30:00] <neokuze> hmm okay...
1652 [13:30:03] <abrotman> This also isn't really a social chat channel, for that we use #debian-offtopic
1653 [13:30:19] <BluesKaj> ne this is debian support, if you to chat try an #debian-offtopic chat
1654 [13:30:30] <BluesKaj> neokuze,^
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1656 [13:31:30] <neokuze> e.e and what the ppl talk here? about debian? only.
1657 [13:31:37] <abrotman> debian,debian support
1658 [13:31:41] <BluesKaj> scuse the poor grammar
1659 [13:32:17] <yokisuci> neokuze: pretty much debian stable support only.
1660 [13:32:36] <neokuze> i see..
1661 [13:32:37] <TTSC> Hi guys - anyone with experience on getting Vmware Workstation 9 running on Stretch? I have a hell of a time getting it to work.
1662 [13:32:37] <BluesKaj> neokuze, if you have a an issue with your debian install, this is the place to ask
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1666 [13:34:01] <neokuze> installing debian is easy... but i change all permission to sudo chmod +x / and shit my os
1667 [13:34:34] <abrotman> wtf
1668 [13:34:39] <towo^work> no one has told you to do that
1669 [13:34:45] <jelly> chmod +x / wouldn't have messed up anything really, but let's assume you did something recursive
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1671 [13:35:21] <neokuze> -R
1672 [13:35:22] <jelly> in which case, you can attempt to restore permissions from your backups
1673 [13:35:34] <jelly> if you don't have backups... eh, reinstall
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1675 [13:35:49] <jelly> after saving data that you care about
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1680 [13:38:10] <neokuze> sudo chown user:user -R / <<< thats i put... idk
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1683 [13:40:45] <jelly> neokuze: backup your data, reinstall, and put data back
1684 [13:41:06] <BluesKaj> neokuze, you probly didn't create a root pw during the installation, correct?
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1686 [13:41:37] <neokuze> sep i dont create backup i use external drives
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1707 [13:54:47] <adac> How can I force a re-install of packages so all the configs do get overwritten?
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1710 [13:56:01] <zykotick9> !confmiss
1711 [13:56:01] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
1712 [13:56:05] <zykotick9> adac: ^
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1714 [13:56:40] <zykotick9> adac: note config files in ~ are NEVER overwritten by packages
1715 [13:56:42] <jelly> adac: are you missing conf files or have conf files in place that you want to overwrite?
1716 [13:57:02] <jelly> if latter, !confnew not !confmiss
1717 [13:57:13] <zykotick9> jelly: thanks. adac sorry.
1718 [13:57:34] <jelly> !confnew
1719 [13:57:34] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
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1722 [13:57:57] <adac> jelly, I'm actually not sure but I think there are missing some. Something has gone wrong with my proxmox intallation
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1726 [14:00:27] <jelly> if you've installed all the proxmox stuff you've veered away from debian quite a lot
1727 [14:00:30] <jelly> !proxmox
1728 [14:00:30] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
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1731 [14:00:56] <adac> jelly, :/ Ok I see yes
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1777 [14:28:03] <sam0> Hello all , I upgraded my debian 8 to 9 and now i got an issue with Xorg launch
1778 [14:28:29] <sam0> as I understand its not launched by root anymore
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1786 [14:32:36] <forcerecon> hey everyone
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1788 [14:33:06] <forcerecon> is this something to be concerned about
1789 [14:33:07] <forcerecon> Cjs-Message: JS LOG: Removing an access point that was never added
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1791 [14:33:26] <forcerecon> I have hundreds of these in my xsession.errors log
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1803 [14:38:34] <teraflops> sam0: do you do startx?
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1806 [14:39:07] <sam0> teraflops: before, yes
1807 [14:39:14] <teraflops> I mean now
1808 [14:39:25] <sam0> yes
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1811 [14:39:50] <sam0> I tried to launch it startx -- vt1
1812 [14:40:39] <tx> got some log output you can link to?
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1814 [14:41:14] <teraflops> sam0: why? does plain startx work or not?
1815 [14:41:25] <sam0> teraflops: its not working anymore
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1817 [14:42:13] <teraflops> so plain startx is not working anymore? sorry for asking again Im just want to be sure I get what you mean
1818 [14:42:49] <sam0> teraflops: yes, that's right, when I do startx now, Xorg crashes and my DM (awesome) is not launched
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1820 [14:43:24] <teraflops> sam0: do you have any xorg log file at $HOME/.local/share/xorg/ ?
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1822 [14:43:27] <sam0> as i understood Xorg is not launched by root anymore so I thought my issue is linked to that
1823 [14:43:35] <Brigo> sam0, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
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1825 [14:43:54] <sam0> teraflops: no xorg in my ~/.local/share/
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1829 [14:44:52] <teraflops> sam0: then share the newest one at /var/log
1830 [14:45:53] <teraflops> sam0: btw I dont think is related to whom launch xorg
1831 [14:46:28] <sam0> replaced-url
1832 [14:46:31] <teraflops> sam0: likely a gpu driver issue, since you dist-upgrade
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1835 [14:47:26] <sam0> teraflops: Its a VM
1836 [14:48:04] <teraflops> sam0: is this a VM?
1837 [14:48:06] <teraflops> yeah
1838 [14:48:08] <teraflops> ಠ_à²
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1840 [14:48:39] <teraflops> and is failing because video driver
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1842 [14:49:12] <sam0> teraflops: mmmh ok
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1846 [14:49:38] <teraflops> sam0: the xorg log is pretty self explanatory
1847 [14:50:07] <sam0> I looked at it but I am pretty bad when it comes to debug Xorg
1848 [14:50:13] <sam0> :(
1849 [14:50:50] <teraflops> sam0: I do not use virtualbox, if you dist upgrade make yourself sure you have the extensions or whatever they are called up to date
1850 [14:50:56] <towo^work> and it's even not a complete update to stretch, because you have the old jjessie kernel running
1851 [14:51:30] <teraflops> sam0: so fix your vbox stuff then
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1854 [14:51:57] <sam0> teraflops: I'll look at it thx
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1856 [14:52:06] <sam0> towo^work: ah, yes you're right
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1859 [14:52:29] <teraflops> idk if debian does DKMS or have a kerne dependant package regarding vbox
1860 [14:52:41] <teraflops> kernel
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1867 [14:58:08] <BluesKaj> dkms needs to be installed on debian, it's not default afaik
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1910 [15:19:55] <colo-work> hrm
1911 [15:20:01] <colo-work> can anyone explain to me what just happened there? replaced-url
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1915 [15:20:32] <colo-work> I wanted to purge packages after the upgrade from jessie to stretch. dpkg died on me, and now the information which packages are auto-installed but not depended upon is lost?
1916 [15:21:32] <Alver> Hi. I'm encountering problems with a Debian ESXi VM (9, stock, up to date) where it will suddenly start using one CPU 100% (visible in the ESXi console) and won't respond to anything at all anymore. No network, no local console, and even watchdog+softdog don't reset the machine.
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1918 [15:21:54] <Alver> How can I troubleshoot this? I can't trust my server VMs to stay up anymore.
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1923 [15:23:30] <abrotman> can you tell with top/atop/htop what is pegging the CPU?
1924 [15:23:46] <Alver> abrotman: the machine is hung. I cannot do *anything* to it.
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1927 [15:24:14] <Alver> abrotman: And since not even softdog/watchdog work anymore, it must work at a level lower than RT kernel processes.
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1929 [15:25:16] <colo-work> well, doesn't your hypervisor provide any means to look into this?
1930 [15:25:35] <Alver> colo-work: it can only see that the VM has a runaway CPU core, apart from that, no.
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1934 [15:25:46] <Alver> Since the open-vm-tools also don't respond, obviously
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1938 [15:27:08] <dionysus69> what was the tool that showed the times for bootup per processes?
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1940 [15:27:42] <towo^work> systemd-analyze
1941 [15:27:52] <towo^work> systemd-analyze blame especialy
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1951 [15:31:08] <nikitasius> folks, where are aws related question channel?
1952 [15:31:16] <porton> What is the easiest way to replace all occurences of XYZ with ABC and all occurences of ABC with XYZ in a file?
1953 [15:32:06] <simp_> nikitasius, don't know, but what's your issue?
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2006 [15:54:30] <dionysus69> towo^work: thanks allot
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2008 [15:55:12] <dionysus69> any ideas why network manager can take 9 seconds on bootup?
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2012 [15:56:07] <nikitasius> simp_: well.. with policies. So i add "AmazonS3ReadOnlyAccess" and i can read the bucket. Next i open this policy "AmazonS3ReadOnlyAccess", copy policy code, create a new inline policy, paste code. Delete attached policy and.. i CAN'T read buckets with SAME code.
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2021 [15:58:12] <simp_> nikitasius, what's your resource marked as? replaced-url
2022 [15:58:37] <simp_> it would have to cover another bucket as well AFAIK.
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2024 [15:59:03] <pvoigt> I have just upgraded my laptop from Jessie to Stretch. All seems fine so far but I need some advice on Gnome 3.22: Currently I do not have a text console anymore on tty1. Instead I have virtual text consoles on tty2 to tty6. And instead of switching back to Gnome using Alt#Ctrl+F7 I now need Alt+Ctrl+F1. Is this a new feature of Gnome 3 or did the upgrade mess up my system?
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2034 [16:00:18] <jonty> @pvoigt, intended behavour, I believe it may be rooted in the move to systemd
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2038 [16:00:55] <sam0> mmmh am I the only one to have a "temporary failure resolving *.debian.org" ?
2039 [16:01:02] <sam0> when doing apt
2040 [16:01:05] <pvoigt> And one more point: Whenever I switch from a running Gnome session to a virtual text console e.g. tty2 and back to Gnome, I have to log into Gnome again, e.g. my session is automatically terminated.
2041 [16:01:06] <sam0> my resolving works fine
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2046 [16:02:04] <BluesKaj> pvoigt, a missin TTY1 is not uncommon, it's actually been the case for a few yrs on some distros the few yrs
2047 [16:02:07] <mint> hi
2048 [16:02:23] <pvoigt> jonty: Good to hear.
2049 [16:02:24] <BluesKaj> last few yrs
2050 [16:02:26] <mint> my wireless show all network but dont connect in debian 9
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2052 [16:02:53] <pvoigt> BluesKaj: Maybe I am too much used to Debian Jessie ;-)
2053 [16:03:10] <BluesKaj> pvoigt, perhaps:-)
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2056 [16:04:00] <nikitasius> simp_: i used that role yes.
2057 [16:04:11] <pvoigt> jonty, BluesKaj: Do you have any idea about the silently and forced logoff when switching back to Gnome from a virtual text console?
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2059 [16:04:22] <nikitasius> i want to understand why this doesnt work in inline policy mode.
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2061 [16:04:45] <jonty> @pvoigt logoff or just screen lock?
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2063 [16:04:54] <nikitasius> looks like we need to allow get* list* now and block some after, instead of whitelisting inside inline policy
2064 [16:05:03] <pvoigt> jonty: logoff
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2066 [16:05:23] <Silmaril> pvoigt: i don't think you are loged off
2067 [16:05:42] <Silmaril> there are multiple X servers running now
2068 [16:05:50] <BluesKaj> pvoigt, no sorry i don't run gnome
2069 [16:05:54] <Silmaril> and tty1/F1 is reserved for the login console
2070 [16:06:08] <Silmaril> your gnome session might be in tty8 or later
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2072 [16:06:30] <BluesKaj> should be VT/TTY7
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2074 [16:06:45] <pvoigt> Silmaril, jonty: You may be right. But if I test right now ...
2075 [16:06:47] <simp_> nikitasius, but what was the resource option marked as?
2076 [16:07:13] <pvoigt> Silmaril: Ah, tty8, will try...
2077 [16:07:25] <Silmaril> pvoigt: and iirc if you log-in on tty1 you are connected to the previously running session
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2082 [16:08:22] <Silmaril> try with ctrl-alt-F7 to switch to the ttys and next alt-right to circle to the next console
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2085 [16:08:45] <pvoigt> OK, will try to switch to tty2 and back to Gnome right now. Weechat is running in tmux...
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2087 [16:09:17] <nikitasius> simp_: what do you mean? which resource option? just a bucket on s3, IA.
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2089 [16:09:45] <pvoigt> Silmaril, jonty: Yeah, Alt+Ctrl+F7 brings me back to the running Gnome session.
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2093 [16:10:35] <Silmaril> in my case: ctrl-alt-f7 is the login session and ctrl-alt-F2 is the first running 'logged-in' graphical session
2094 [16:10:45] <pvoigt> To be honest I would like to get back tty1 with the boot messages. Could anybody give me an hint how to achieve this with systemd?
2095 [16:10:48] <Silmaril> don't know why ^^
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2102 [16:11:22] <Silmaril> pvoigt: well i have absolutly no idea, my knowledge stop here ;)
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2105 [16:11:55] <pvoigt> Silmaril: ???, Alt+Ctrl+F2 is my first virtual text console.
2106 [16:12:34] <Silmaril> i have only tty4 to tty6 available
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2108 [16:12:47] <Silmaril> systemctl | grep getty
2109 [16:12:52] <simp_> nikitasius, when you create a new IAM policy to s3, allowing s3:Get* & s3:List* (read only), you also have to specify a resource option, as specified in the docs here: replaced-url
2110 [16:13:22] <Silmaril> you might try enabling a getty@tty1 with something like systemctl start|enable getty@tty1
2111 [16:13:54] <Silmaril> or you can try something like here replaced-url
2112 [16:14:05] <Silmaril> depending of what you really meant
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2114 [16:14:31] <nikitasius> simp_: i copied default `{ "Version": "2012-10-17", "Statement": [ { "Effect": "Allow", "Action": [ "s3:Get*", "s3:List*" ], "Resource": "*" } ]}`
2115 [16:14:40] <nikitasius> resource - *
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2120 [16:15:18] <nikitasius> it doesnt work as inline policy. but it work if i attach it IN policies "AmazonS3ReadOnlyAccess" - name in the list
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2122 [16:16:04] <nikitasius> simp_: i just wanted to say/cry "Why AWS accept that as a policy and doesnt as inline policy."
2123 [16:16:14] <nikitasius> thats strange for me
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2126 [16:17:09] <nikitasius> Silmaril: this is how i ran skype on tty13 replaced-url
2127 [16:17:14] <simp_> nikitasius, ah, the inline format is probably slightly different, you have to set it up as a separate object, and then use the reference name to make it work i think.
2128 [16:17:39] <nikitasius> simp_: possible. But i was thinking what it should be the same.... hmm
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2131 [16:19:07] <Alver> How can I debug a kernel issue that locks up a machine entirely? Right now nothing gets logged at all. 4.9.0, debian 9.
2132 [16:19:19] <nikitasius> simp_: the idea what i want to put all clients backups in one bucket and i dont want clients look inside the folders of another clients.
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2137 [16:22:58] <nikitasius> simp_: in fact what do you think: create bucket-per-client or keep all clients backup in same bucket?
2138 [16:23:01] <pvoigt> Silmaril: Thanks, I have just been reading exactly the same link ;-)
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2141 [16:23:44] <simp_> nikitasius, I would automate bucket-per-client somehow. Keeping everything in a single bucket feels wrong to me.
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2147 [16:25:06] <nikitasius> simp_: easy to backup i guess. But you right, i will to bucket-per-client.
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2150 [16:25:23] <nikitasius> i wanted to separate rights via policies.
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2158 [16:29:20] <Wotac> any theories why my newly installed debian 9 makes a popping sound constantly in my speakers
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2161 [16:30:35] <sandman13> Wotac: Are you using GNOME?
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2163 [16:31:09] <Wotac> it's MATE
2164 [16:31:13] <sandman13> If yes, then you have your problem. GNOME generates that popping sound
2165 [16:31:34] <sandman13> You can disable it though
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2168 [16:32:40] <sandman13> Wotac: replaced-url
2169 [16:32:41] <sam0> is anybody has an issue with repositories DNS name resolution during packages update ?
2170 [16:32:45] <pvoigt> Silmaril: Unfortunately, these attempts did not bring me back tty1.
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2173 [16:33:08] <Silmaril> pvoigt: sorry to hear that
2174 [16:33:22] <Silmaril> i'll try myself but later
2175 [16:34:09] <pvoigt> My USB keyboard is not yet usable in the Grub menu but gets activated later during the boot process. Can I change this?
2176 [16:34:18] <Wotac> sandman13: that link seems to be talking about a sound that happens when adjusting volume, mine just keeps happening all the time, is it still the same thing?
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2181 [16:35:50] <BluesKaj> sam0, are you runing with dns entries in the interfaces file with network manager disabled ?
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2183 [16:36:41] <sam0> BluesKaj: I have my /etc/resolv.conf populated , no network manager installed and systemd-resolved disabled
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2187 [16:38:41] <BluesKaj> sam0, actaually you should use systemd-resolved witht dns entries there
2188 [16:38:48] <negev> hi, is there a way to invoke apt-get -y upgrade such that it will accept the default for every modified config file? (ie N = keep local version)
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2190 [16:39:00] <negev> i'm already passing DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive but that doesn't seem to do it
2191 [16:39:17] <sam0> BluesKaj: this thing is resolving with Google DNS servers, so if I can do with something else, would be better
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2194 [16:40:06] <BluesKaj> sam0, I use my ISP dns servers , they work well in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
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2196 [16:40:23] <sandman13> Wotac: Well, that's one place to look at. I don't run MATE...
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2203 [16:41:32] <mtn> Wotac, try using pavucontrol to adjust your sound settings and test other sound devices
2204 [16:41:33] <sam0> BluesKaj: what if the DNS configuration is pushed by DHCP server (i am at work so i don't have much choice for dns)
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2210 [16:42:03] <nikitasius> simp_: finally yes. Bucket per user. more simple to rule policies.
2211 [16:42:26] <sam0> my resolv.conf contains my corporate dns settings but resolved looks not to be updated
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2214 [16:43:25] <BluesKaj> sam0, perhaps your sys-admin could provide you with better dns nameservers than google
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2216 [16:43:47] <nikitasius> BluesKaj: some people doesnt want to share their DNS history with google :)
2217 [16:43:53] <nikitasius> *dont want to
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2219 [16:44:27] <BluesKaj> ni tha's not what I'm suggesting at all
2220 [16:44:30] <BluesKaj> nikitasius,
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2222 [16:44:59] <sam0> The weirdest here is that with only my resolv.conf , firefox is ok fetching web content, dig is resolving ok...
2223 [16:45:06] <sam0> but apt is not
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2225 [16:45:35] <BluesKaj> try a different mirror for your repos , sam0
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2228 [16:47:01] <dionysus69> need help troubleshooting why NetworkManager-wait-online.service this is slow at startup
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2230 [16:47:09] <dionysus69> how do I figure out which services are asking for it to wait?
2231 [16:47:25] <simp_> nikitasius, glad you found a fitting solution. It's often just a lot of trial-and-error until you find the best way :)
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2237 [16:48:32] <sam0> BluesKaj: same error with a few different repositories
2238 [16:48:37] <Wotac> okay sorry for jumping to conclusions that it would be debian, looks like swapping the positions of the speakers made the sound go away so it was about wires
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2244 [16:50:23] <BluesKaj> sam0, paste your sources.list at replaced-url
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2248 [16:51:02] <dionysus69> how do I delay service startup by 1 min?
2249 [16:51:14] <dionysus69> libvirtd specifically
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2251 [16:51:25] <teraflops> ಠ_à²
2252 [16:51:34] <simp_> dionysus69, maybe this can help you? replaced-url
2253 [16:51:46] <sam0> BluesKaj: replaced-url
2254 [16:51:53] <mizzen> Can you sandbox a kernel before installing one ?
2255 [16:52:08] <simp_> dionysus69, or systemd timers.
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2258 [16:53:58] <teraflops> dionysus69: youre trying to make a workaround instead of fixing the real problem?
2259 [16:54:14] <dionysus69> I am eager to fix the problem
2260 [16:54:24] <dionysus69> probably libvirt is causing NetworkManager-wait-online.service to delay for 9 seconds
2261 [16:54:38] <sam0> BluesKaj: fairly simple sources.list
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2264 [16:54:46] <dionysus69> which causes whole system to hang for 9 extra seconds which is not very smart, this is just a user pc
2265 [16:54:47] <mizzen> you can use systemD's network manager if you want
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2269 [16:55:19] <dionysus69> what no I am not planning to resetup whole operating system just to fix libvirt's asking NetworkManager to wait
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2271 [16:56:38] <L00thar> systemd
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2273 [16:56:39] <teraflops> dionysus69: again, it seems to me that your network is miss configured
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2275 [16:56:56] <BluesKaj> sam0, are you on stretch, if so change stable to stretch in the sources.list
2276 [16:57:06] <dionysus69> one glitch actually. I have multiple ethernet profiles and it fails to select the one that was selected the last
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2278 [16:57:15] <teraflops> dionysus69: easy to find out. disable libvirtd and reboot^
2279 [16:57:26] <dionysus69> so sometimes it is not set to any, that's why I guess it's not connecting until i manually assign network profile
2280 [16:57:45] <teraflops> so you network conf is broken
2281 [16:57:46] <dionysus69> ye i could do that haha, I dont really use libvirt at all i will pretty much delete it
2282 [16:57:57] <teraflops> and yo blame a random service that depends on having network…
2283 [16:58:00] <teraflops> you^
2284 [16:58:08] <dionysus69> how though, these are stock packages, i didnt change anything with respect to gnome or its network manager
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2286 [16:58:35] <teraflops> stock packages are not pebcak-free
2287 [16:58:41] <dionysus69> I just added profiles for manual network config, one for work one for home
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2289 [16:59:07] <dionysus69> ok anyways, I ll delete libvirt and reboot
2290 [16:59:08] <dionysus69> brb
2291 [16:59:14] <somiaj> just disable the service
2292 [16:59:19] <somiaj> no need to delete it
2293 [16:59:37] <sam0> BluesKaj: Same problem. I think the problem is the DNS resolution
2294 [16:59:49] <dionysus69> somiaj: not using it anyways, using virtualbox
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2296 [17:00:29] <sam0> BluesKaj: i have to go. thanks for help
2297 [17:00:31] <somiaj> dionysus69: just so you know, virtualbox is not part of stretch if you plan to upgrade.
2298 [17:00:34] <somiaj> ,v virtualbox
2299 [17:00:35] <judd> Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2; sid/contrib: 5.1.22-dfsg-2
2300 [17:00:48] <dionysus69> somiaj: I am already on stretch for 1 year
2301 [17:00:54] <dionysus69> somiaj: and it works great :D
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2303 [17:01:18] <somiaj> dionysus69: then the virtualbox you are using is outdated and insecure and won't recive any updates. virtualbox was removed from stretch duing the freeze due to an orcal policy and security support.
2304 [17:01:38] <somiaj> as I said, virtualbox was removed from stretch. If running stretch libvirt is the better choice at the moment.
2305 [17:01:40] <dionysus69> it is 5.1.22
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2307 [17:01:51] <dionysus69> how is it outdated heh
2308 [17:02:32] <dionysus69> anyways if I noticed it is lagging back, I can just download a package from their website, or I actually dont remember maybe I am already doing that.
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2310 [17:03:13] <somiaj> dionysus69: you can use a local install if you like, just realize that virtualbox is not part of stretch, so be careful. I personally prefer packages from stretch itself and not third party.
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2314 [17:04:50] <dionysus69> ye I found libvirt to be very not user friendly
2315 [17:04:56] <jonty> @somiaj Virtualbox is in stretch: apt-cache search virtualbox|grep virtualbox-5.1
2316 [17:04:56] <jonty> virtualbox-5.1 - Oracle VM VirtualBox
2317 [17:04:58] <dionysus69> one needs to be a system programmer to use libvirt
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2319 [17:06:02] <somiaj> jonty: give me the output of apt-cache policy virtualbox-5.1 on your system please.
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2321 [17:06:11] <dionysus69> btw, firewall doesnt come preinstalled on debian right?
2322 [17:06:14] <somiaj> jonty: virtualbox is not in stretch.
2323 [17:06:24] <somiaj> dionysus69: correct, debian doesn't configure a filewall by default, you have ot make your own.
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2325 [17:06:37] <somiaj> dionysus69: have you tried virtmanager?
2326 [17:06:42] <dionysus69> never realized it until now :D
2327 [17:06:48] <dionysus69> yep I meant virtmanager
2328 [17:07:00] <dionysus69> still not user friendly, was using space in root instead of home and stuff like that
2329 [17:07:04] <somiaj> I personally like libvirt over virtualbox and find it way easier to use.
2330 [17:07:05] <dionysus69> my root partition is only 20gb
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2332 [17:07:46] <jonty> @somiaj OK, but not hard to add: replaced-url
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2334 [17:07:50] <dionysus69> one benefit I noticed with libvirt is that it has built-in headless mode
2335 [17:08:17] <dionysus69> whats the recommended firewall
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2337 [17:08:32] <dionysus69> I find iptables to be too complicated and found using ufw pretty easy to use
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2339 [17:08:45] <somiaj> jonty: sure you can use thrid party repos, I don't know the quality of the one by oracle, but it is not in stretch and not supported here.
2340 [17:08:46] <dionysus69> used it only once though
2341 [17:09:09] <somiaj> dionysus69: why do you need a firewall. In Debian you most likely are not running any services you haven't installed and want to be open.
2342 [17:09:27] <dionysus69> somiaj: well at least for a web server
2343 [17:09:28] <somiaj> dionysus69: iptables is the suggested tool, there are some front ends to it, but in many cases you won't need it.
2344 [17:09:38] <somiaj> dionysus69: so you want to instaall a webserver, then block the port?
2345 [17:09:43] <dionysus69> I have a home webserver which has ubuntu on it and I thought firewall was necessary ingredient :)
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2347 [17:10:35] <somiaj> dionysus69: in debian you should only install the services you want listening. In more complicated setups you may need a firewall, but for a headless webserver you won't unless you really need to have services listening on ports you want to block from the public.
2348 [17:10:39] <dionysus69> for security reasons at least. web server is behind a nat anyways but server still has some ports that I want only to use locally
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2350 [17:11:16] <teraflops> dionysus69: if youre behind a plastic router which does nat, people cannot access to your webserver inside your lan unless you explicitly map ports
2351 [17:11:17] <somiaj> if it is ubuntu you are in the wrong channel, if it is debian, what services are you wanting to run you don't want to have open? Also if you have another firewall (a nat or router) you don't need an additional one on your debian box.
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2357 [17:13:31] <teraflops> dionysus69: if your ISP does ipv6 that's another story
2358 [17:13:39] <dionysus69> not really
2359 [17:14:23] <dionysus69> i have forwarded only needed ports to server from the wan-router
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2364 [17:14:47] <dionysus69> still security world seems vague and scary so I dont know what security exploits are there
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2366 [17:15:08] <dionysus69> recommendations I read online suggested installing firewall, that's all x)
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2368 [17:15:26] <somiaj> dionysus69: your router will then be your firewall and that is what you should configure. I don't know any ipv6 issues that teraflops hinted at.
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2370 [17:15:48] <somiaj> dionysus69: firewalls are important, but not just somthing you install on every machine. In your case you have one, it is your router.
2371 [17:15:58] <dionysus69> I dont really know how ipv6 works so ...
2372 [17:16:23] <dionysus69> haha but it is a bundle stupid router
2373 [17:16:28] <dionysus69> is it safe ? :D
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2375 [17:16:39] <somiaj> firewalls can be important and helpful, but they aren't as important as network design and carefuly thinking about what services you are running and who you want to access them.
2376 [17:16:43] <dionysus69> it doesnt have "firewall" options, just port forwarding
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2380 [17:17:17] <teraflops> somiaj: if you do ipv6 (depending on your ISP implementation) youre not doing nat and every service/port is reachable on the intertubes
2381 [17:17:45] <somiaj> teraflops: any newer routers provide a firewall for ipv6 yet?
2382 [17:18:05] <teraflops> that's up to the ISP, mine does
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2393 [17:20:35] <armin> you can still let your router/firewall block incoming connections even when all your internal hosts have a globally reachable ipv6 address.
2394 [17:20:46] <dionysus69> so if I had ipv6 I really had to have a firewall, either on router or on the server itself correct?
2395 [17:20:55] <armin> that's what firewalls are designed to do, actually.
2396 [17:22:14] <somiaj> dionysus69: I think you need to consider your network configuration (including vms) a bit more as that sounds like the core of your original issue and this discussion if you need a firewall or not.
2397 [17:22:40] <dionysus69> firewall is not connected to virtual machine
2398 [17:22:41] <somiaj> for a home network, the router acts as the firewall for your network and you configure it to forward the ports you want open to the outside world.
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2400 [17:22:53] <dionysus69> just had two different questions :D my home web server is on some old laptop
2401 [17:23:04] <somiaj> firewalls are for networks, not indvidual machines, your vms depending on how configured are affected by them.
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2403 [17:23:33] <somiaj> some setup a virtual network and run on them. I use a bridge on my vms and they are actually on my home network directly, no virtual network.
2404 [17:23:47] <somiaj> and then my router is my firewall for my whole home network.
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2406 [17:24:04] <dionysus69> ye that sounds reasonable
2407 [17:24:15] <dionysus69> anyways guys thanks for help
2408 [17:24:19] <dionysus69> need to head out :D
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2424 [17:31:10] <dionysus69> replaced-url
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2426 [17:31:26] <dionysus69> still lagging on boot. I removed libvirt and apparently it wasn't its fault
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2430 [17:31:49] <dionysus69> does that screenshot point to anything that is slowing down the network manager daemon to start
2431 [17:31:54] <strk> is there any way to specify Test-Depend for a package ?
2432 [17:32:04] <strk> for those who want to build w/out running tests
2433 [17:32:09] <strk> or is that intentionally discouraged ?
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2438 [17:32:55] <uxerx> hey, i've downloaded a Debian Stretch Live CD (lxde) debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-lxde.iso
2439 [17:33:01] <uxerx> but I don't see any option to install it
2440 [17:33:40] <uxerx> also when I try to launch installer from a grub menu, debootstrap reports that it can't determine release code name
2441 [17:33:45] <babilen> uxerx: I'd recommend to use the actual installation images for, well, installing Debian: replaced-url
2442 [17:33:49] <uxerx> i don't have internet during install
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2445 [17:34:16] <uxerx> is it possible to install debian stretch without being connected to the internet?
2446 [17:34:35] <babilen> Sure
2447 [17:35:06] <uxerx> then how I can have the exact look of the LXDE that is in the live image?
2448 [17:35:08] <r4mpage> uxerx: oh, those old Debian potato times when you had no Internet
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2450 [17:35:23] <uxerx> r4mpage, i don't have internet still
2451 [17:35:31] <uxerx> i just want to install debian from a downloaded image
2452 [17:35:33] <r4mpage> uxerx: and I thought I was poor
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2455 [17:36:00] <r4mpage> uxerx: you can, fro your regular "all in one" dvd, the installer scans media to create a list of available packages
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2457 [17:36:49] <uxerx> well , i remember jessie live installer, you just launch a live system and click 'install' icon
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2459 [17:37:17] <somiaj> uxerx: the debian live isntaller sin't always the same as the offical debian installer. I would just download dvd1 and select lxde during the install.
2460 [17:37:29] <uxerx> ok
2461 [17:37:44] <somiaj> for the most part, the software you need should be on dvd1, you can download more dvds if needed, but I think all the major de's and most common software fits on dvd1
2462 [17:37:48] <uxerx> damn, more bandwidth to spend again
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2465 [17:38:05] <somiaj> I think there are places you can by dvds and have them sent to you
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2467 [17:38:47] <uxerx> so my work should be suspended while i wait for dvd to be shipped
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2471 [17:39:07] <somiaj> I was just listening an option if banwidth is an issue
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2475 [17:40:42] <r4mpage> uxerx: maybe you should use Ubuntu, they used to ship loads of DVDs for free. I have a bunch at my home, no one from my university took them. Either they hate me or they do not give a damn fuck.
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2481 [17:41:26] <somiaj> r4mpage: maybe someplace will ship debian dvd's for free, the price is mostly for production/shipping costs.
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2483 [17:41:39] <r4mpage> somiaj: yeap
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2485 [17:41:47] <r4mpage> I wonder why he has no Internet though
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2487 [17:42:05] <r4mpage> maybe even a USB stick would be more convenient
2488 [17:42:11] <r4mpage> an
2489 [17:42:18] <jelly> I wonder why people don't say "gotta run, bye"
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2491 [17:42:58] <th0r> jelly, maybe because sometimes the network doesn'g give them a chance
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2525 [18:01:28] <SerajewelKS> after the stretch upgrade, the volume buttons on my keyboard no longer change the master volume in LXDE
2526 [18:01:46] <SerajewelKS> is this a known issue?
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2536 [18:04:05] <SerajewelKS> also, i'm getting stuttering with pulseaudio but only when using the equalizer output. none of the realtime options seem to correct this.
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2547 [18:09:56] <jhutchins> SerajewelKS: Most problems with pulseaudio are solved by deleting it.
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2549 [18:10:16] <jhutchins> It'll be nice when pulseaudio matures and starts to work more often than it breaks things.
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2560 [18:14:18] <SerajewelKS> jhutchins: indeed. as usual, as soon as i requested help, i was able to solve both problems.
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2562 [18:14:27] <SerajewelKS> asking: the necessary prerequisite to solving problems yourself
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2564 [18:15:13] <SerajewelKS> jhutchins: i don't much care for pulse. i like the ideas. however, being able to switch processes between my headphones, my headphones via equalizer, and my HDMI monitor on the fly is pretty nice. you know, when it works.
2565 [18:15:56] <SerajewelKS> pulse is still miles ahead of windows, which insists each time i plug in my TV that ALL of my audio be routed to it
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2569 [18:18:42] <SerajewelKS> oddly enough, most of the problems i have with pulse are random steam games that can't deal with it
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2572 [18:19:04] <receter> hey guys
2573 [18:19:19] <receter> is double clicking unavailable in stretch?
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2576 [18:19:44] <SerajewelKS> receter: we're gonna need a lot more context than that
2577 [18:19:45] <receter> is double clicking unavailable in stretch?
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2580 [18:20:37] <receter> I cannot double tap/click on any folder or titlebar of any window
2581 [18:20:46] <receter> doind so causes me to drag the window
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2583 [18:20:53] <receter> *doing
2584 [18:21:07] <SerajewelKS> receter: are you using a touchpad?
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2587 [18:21:27] <SerajewelKS> this sounds like either (a) a touchpad driver thing, or (b) an accessibility setting
2588 [18:22:06] <live> Hi Debian community, could I ask for help here regarding a dual boot problem/data recovery problem
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2591 [18:22:10] <receter> I dont have a double tap setting under mouse and trackpad tab
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2594 [18:23:27] <receter> i have uninstalled xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
2595 [18:23:33] <receter> and restarted te macihne
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2601 [18:25:04] <SerajewelKS> receter: it may be a default setting of the kernel driver as well
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2608 [18:27:35] <receter> okay
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2610 [18:28:53] <dionysus69> can anyone help troubleshoot this startup lag? network manager as shown in systemd-analyze blame plot replaced-url
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2613 [18:29:07] <dionysus69> I want to know which service is it waiting for so I disable it
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2636 [18:35:02] <mccd_> .j nginx
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2658 [18:42:46] <jhutchins> live: Yes, but we'll need much more detail.
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2663 [18:43:18] <jhutchins> dionysus69: Usually that's a problem with waiting for the remote DHCP server to complete the DHCP transaction.
2664 [18:43:38] <dionysus69> hmm, what about if I have a manual profile
2665 [18:43:52] <dionysus69> doesnt have to wait for dhcp at all in that case
2666 [18:44:23] <dionysus69> I have two profiles, one for home and one for work but obviously system doesnt know which one to choose when
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2668 [18:44:34] <dionysus69> is there a way to fix this situation ? :S
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2677 [18:47:21] <live> jhutchins, actually I was dual booting win10 and solus
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2679 [18:47:44] <live> but so far noone from the solus team could help me
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2681 [18:47:58] <dontknow> anyone here uses kde plasma has shitty login screen?
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2683 [18:48:31] <live> win10 ntfs partitions are still recognized in gparted
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2685 [18:48:39] <live> but my linux partitions are not recognized anymore
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2697 [18:53:18] <d0x0b> hello, I am not able to boot system, It boots in emergency mode this is my journalctl log file: replaced-url
2698 [18:53:23] <d0x0b> Any help would be appriciated
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2719 [19:02:41] <nrs_> has anyone else had problems with encrypted swap not being activated on boot?
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2721 [19:03:14] <live> jhutchins, what kind of details would you need?
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2726 [19:05:01] <spacebug^> !ask
2727 [19:05:02] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2737 [19:08:03] <thecat> I am installing stretch using preseeding
2738 [19:08:11] <thecat> how can I prevent network interfaces to be renamed to ens192
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2741 [19:08:28] <thecat> how can i keep first interface eth0 ?
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2743 [19:08:56] <zleap> i think this is a system D thing, so maybe switch to a system that supports system V
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2753 [19:11:24] <nkuttler> !tell thecat about udev mac
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2764 [19:17:04] <sypher> zleap: That's hardly a good solution.
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2766 [19:17:16] <sypher> thecat: Add "net.ifnames=0" to the kernel line in GRUB.
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2773 [19:18:29] <sypher> thecat: Further information: replaced-url
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2787 [19:24:47] <mabynogy> interesting sypher so bye bye eth0
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2789 [19:25:05] <zykotick9> mg2> alsamixer
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2794 [19:26:03] <mrr0butt> without "net.ifnames=0" network-manager fail to autenthification when trying to connect accesspoint for me
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2796 [19:26:24] <sypher> Probably because it's looking for an interface that doesn't exist.
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2806 [19:30:56] <mrr0butt> the new style iface names for pci devices are aceptable but with usb devices its getting rly ridicules :D
2807 [19:31:05] <mrr0butt> e.g wlxec086b1d8217
2808 [19:31:22] <mrr0butt> this is longer then the mac adress
2809 [19:31:51] <rapha> sudo sh -c 'apt update && apt upgrade'
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2854 [19:34:00] <sdzivo> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: deadgekk1 holmgren bemawi waz0wski mo1991 nadley _guios Nach0z spont4e nwe sdollins Guest83472 Andocromn K1rk SwedeMike Piggy snw watersoul aindilis SpeedyG dh64 buffal0 DeaDSouL m4rCsi Colti bed7 MyIgel haylon ageis AciD` fireba11 xet7 scoopex woshty nathanhi gatekeep uda Cerise_ SpeedBus richardjohn BotaniCar OtakuSenp
2855 [19:34:00] <juris> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: slicepaperwords boris_t SQL oahong tnnn solution1 qtch hobbyquaker_ nuclearjello guampa doyle vOYtEC Gabemo Anarchic rax0 Hydroxide karc jrklein AlwaysHigh RyanKnack mossman shadoxx tsurko jor sandeepkr brimonk swordsmanz Mysterytrain puppet_ legit mundus2018 passstab hycer mcintosh esainane Artox satbyy Sabotender dh64 LunchM
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2857 [19:34:00] <tjlihzus> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: dvdmuckle Ssquidly jmnk dbgr pugfantus pixel_yo Comstock Subfusc abrotman bois gehaxelt fred`` heinrich5991 pmn RUDE lsv B[]rG lord_helmet ijmad kisser CEnnis91 holmgren cooldude x10 s7r Nothing4You Canucktux_ L235 rymax99 sandman13 lebster ircnode0 Brian|2 jj- Poppabear tremo mf|cloud thebadshepperd Anarchic chownsauce ma
2858 [19:34:00] <dxrvvg> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: AlexZ_ shakalaka Aristide vOYtEC p0g0 k4tfish xingu zero85 amcorreia Tom01 VoidFox benj_ ballessay bluequijote gentox netsnail jazz serban jab416171 SkIzZaTo tomreyn SpeedyG nopf juris Butt3rfly planetmaker quite cmam _0x5eb_ passstab pixdamix codebam dexta Iridos davidebeatrici exe skippy_ ChuMar1_ Cavedude flyingkiwi kevr
2859 [19:34:00] <Igel> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: osx riex somepoortech Ke sim590 suffer Anarchic nomad_dw timeless Hoolootwo donut_ hexjay Hestben Canucktux_ ircnode0 gacekjk db` ggherdov rkj Acrisor Mortumm_ ballessay deadgekk1 Modeuse holmgren bauerj slack_ Silicium Deviance lohenpaa mibo blackest_mamba Puck Strife1989 f0ff melvin Vizva insecurity soulz Chaosmaster CompWizrd
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2861 [19:34:00] <aiiqhrqb> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: hlmjr Vorap my123 jac0bi matthiaskrgr L00thar Matthew_ jj- midacts Poster hid3 przemoc Scuttle holmgren Adbray jonvonb k4tfish adamus1red epsilon zykotick9 GDiaX beaky sloucher PaulePanter Grandolf deadgekk1 Stx Xanthor heurist latez_ Geom esainane volodim romana nathanhi ^GoD^ nix64bit namix antismap` acecile magyar SwedeMi
2862 [19:34:00] <jn0> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: flokuehn BiGBOi TriJetScud soee bitblit nickstenn nickle p0rt RaiNerTsuFal ephesius Nevolution2 Brian|2 bzed Tewi Cisien jf0o23 snw wakd awdfew3roi eMaks tanay nse1 p0g0 nopf krups stefanc_diff renzhi kInOzAwA tw waz0wski tobbie2 jonathaN thurin systo angor DeaDSouL tremo fFamousfFatman awhitlock8 TimWolla Orochimarufan Hestben eld
2863 [19:34:00] <jrklein> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: allorder _systemd_is_evil hexa- cryptic yokisuci Lowl3v3l MobileMatt_ Silicium relaxed Pelle` gtt Quick_Wango xcin SupaYoshi thecat madmattco pav naos62 Kyoshiro s0ph0s riex hid3 x42 Jikan CompWizrd johnny_ erre rxo Jdbye Furai sinduck ashka pfote ghoti vivid Celelibi s7r Guest83472 Kam hplar basso_ staircrusher CuSn Robr3
2864 [19:34:00] <jrklein> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: trewas sayo- fassl Mariio1692_ samnob HotSwap Igel_ SaltySolomon nathanhi Commander1024 kneekoo2 MrGeneral HeOS Malmis mf|cloud RamPage mingdao kline pitelpan paradizelost nauticalnexus KindOne slicepaperwords LjL johnnyfive Darcidride supersoju wowmuchnamaste Dreamix jtdowney puppet_ abff ygeLN d-fence evotopid rdz XeonSq
2865 [19:34:00] <jrklein> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: RaiNerTsuFal magyar jtdowney graingert CheBuzz Geekologist `z snw Diaoul dogui_ Hink RebelCoder mutante RTFM[away] heinrich5991 jmyrv redsPL J-BBB Mariio1692_ skza knidos johnny_ qqx OtakuSenpai fred`` __C_P__ Bercik Blanco JohnDoh dasher00 ghormoon sandeepkr lebster Rubin johnpark_pj Logg lukasdboer `d DK2 chalcedony Ekch
2866 [19:34:00] <jrklein> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: jesopo iamtheneon dayten ProfessorKaos64 chillax GNUtoo-irssi Delf Mariio1692_ fangfufu miklcct Noah0504 pelp tonythomas boris negev lavenders fast_ ChuMar1_ tobbie2 ikanobori dysfigured nbg j3x hypermist Subfusc Guest83472 beuker shakalaka bolt ggherdov fnmueller benster cherti rOss^64 lsv bertbob GG_Phyduck Alesk13 bwf m
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2868 [19:34:01] <karc> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: k4tfish GDiaX jj- nhandler precise nix-7_ jordanm elik_ bucket-hat msev- Spydar007 pfoo Aph3x-WL malademental nicdev jonvonb mibo Zyferus SaltySolomon gluon_ helldorado rancyd gigetoo kwmiebach jager_ Nothing4You aivkiv CapsAdmin ckuehl abra0 awhitlock8 chaology Linlz ketralnis kolla jf0o23 p0rt_ Gm4n_ M-wkennington loeken cnu- Fo
2869 [19:34:01] <dxrvvg> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: PaulePanter Spiffy foriin ChanServ s7r JasonO andai Atlas oerheks Sciuro fireba11 ffernand xSmurf t0ne_ WizardGed _Tristan-Speccy_ bibiirc_ tolecnal RTFM[away] lsv Diaoul PhonicUK2 Pseudo # phorce1 Sir_Designer hramrach digastricus Ke borsin s0lar1s K1rk hasdf bipolar jmnk r00t amcorreia AN0NYM rysiek|pl negev kh4| hirow vl
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2871 [19:34:01] <iroh> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: dgriffi dbgr Amplificator alekz xcin Blanco Geekologist j3x zz_zz ohithere rkj Amun_Ra alprazolam LeandroLuiz is_null ericnoan Qrc^ hays nickle mutante rolig rtsisyk andai pelegreno_____ sc_ bobvador mirsal- uda de ghoti kingkong superkulak Guest90954 freanux nkuttler tripkin na1rb passstab dexta JyZyXEL manyface kisser jhill th
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2873 [19:34:01] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: dh64 nunatak mns adoua bluszcz chownsauce toine42 Hobbyboy r00t Weeezy_ _systemd_is_evil digdilem kirkland Archrover t0ne_ peterandre r3 Nitori vivid k4tfish _rubik loader pierrot qman__ ribasushi MrAlexandr0 knidos p0rt_ eir sabbie_ PaulePanter tuxcraft1r k4y4mm roger_rabbit pixdamix greycat LtL eMaks xet7 JasonO Exagone313 dir
2874 [19:34:01] <iroh> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: quasisane jhill dexta tuv stefanc_diff awhitlock mavhq Zardoz nomad_dw Trieste kmd martinus__ Posterdati slugmx GhostInTheShell ToeSnacks fnmueller rheddry swordsmanz jstolarek nbags Arsiesys Artemis3 sabbie_ j3x gratuxri _aeris_ rax0 LoRez tremolo Zharf Frikilinux Nitori jf0o23 therock247uk bgardner vook lifeofguenter mukmuk J-
2875 [19:34:01] <iroh> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: esainane patterson datasmurf pseubodot p0g0 nomad_dw Mevlock situz voipmonk M-shine SirLagz tugrik Malmis cherti tvsutton Mir4g3 Archrover dh64 vook johnny_ Spiffy eir micronn whiskey9 ephesius gatekeep synthmeat thims iter bibiirc_ azg yokisuci fred`` skza lavenders james41382 missmbob kw21 nickenchuggets leemar__ brimonk sdoll
2876 [19:34:01] <karc> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: jmsx Subfusc Stummi Guest83472 jordanm emilsedgh namix Trellmor q6AA4FD chownsauce Keridos StathisA Piper-Off mumixam ashka infinity1 SupaYoshi funnel czesmir SuperSeriousCat OtakuSenpai mrr0butt BeamWatcher spinza bhuvi dusares_ amorel_ barteks2x guampa ericnoan nolsen sc_ sjk bobvador Chex Butt3rfly tharkun fast_ awdfew3roi musc
2877 [19:34:01] <iroh> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: loader lchlan jonasbits_ simp_ soahccc nolsen Adbray corkmork Kevin` nbastin czer00 jnovak bla Cyph3r noexcept Orphis tty0_ borsin greycat aivkiv thims sphalerite SpeedBus watersoul nymony Otyg nomad_dw Tom01 dh64 akq amorel_ Furai vivid zz_djz88 xiqy_ JZTech10 freanux K1rk spont4e chomwitt lifeofguenter gvvg_ cef Beretta021 buc
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2879 [19:34:01] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: petems ribasushi M-wkennington Sabaku afx237 bluszcz Schmantinski Penix ripdog SleePy heurist vectr0n sn0wmonster geir_ d adc krazedkat georgeowell riex ephemer0l Yondering jstolarek grumble jh001 latez_ lazouz hundfred sim590 vutral adamus1red jdiez forcerecon beaky rmacd Vizva alekz shadoxx elliottcable bobe xingu internot Amu
2880 [19:34:01] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: bgamari klaas bed7 ws2k3 APLU AndrewMC smurfd_ wingman2 Speed2u sndb faheem__ qqx hayer bogus- vvande buffal0 flyinprogrammer chomwitt Orbitrix jannic JyZyXEL alxd adc pixdamix oberstein {41444d494e} CodingWithClass michaelni bollo MyIgel SerajewelKS paulgrmn Mysterytrain Dan_au ariador skza CompWizrd bazquxer tuv thoros GNUtoo-
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2882 [19:34:01] <iroh> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: nopf n0nada Kobaz mutante borsin nrs_ przemoc Nomads indrora karlamrhein sirecote Brigo TimWolla piklu nicdev Linlz GrimKriegor lmnt freanux olivetree_ nicechap flipp Eryn_1983_FL t0m0 Arrowmaster Furai Andocromn simp_ Poppabear synthmeat Pwnna iLogic enkrypt vOYtEC Sasasu j3x dStruct sophiya nbastin _systemd_is_evil nagarkot mi
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2884 [19:34:01] <karc> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Artemis3 heinrich5991 Furai djramon BiGBOi gigetoo cyphix sIRwa2 kalebo thecat APLU internot boxrick1 rax0 hayer Korak whiskey9 Hestben Gabemo kh4| AN0NYM jhill ksft Cy-GorWork ventura ripdog Hijiri na1rb p0g0 zz_zz rt Louis dayten NoCode nickenchuggets forcerecon Stummi staircrusher M-shine x42 max-m wakd dogui_ SaltySolomon liba
2885 [19:34:01] <SoakedNoodle> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: serban mf|cloud vlegout_ hsiktas dmakeyev m4rCsi jcara TomG2 nurupo nickle rlange degenerate gusnan olivetree_ Chex jmsx angor cef k_sze[work] popnfresh BeamWatcher dStruct firztspawn Ximensi0ns jareth_ fstd dogui_ nagetier kingkong elliottcable Riviera- cyphix nvz jback Doldge riddle kri cdown marens libardi flyinp
2886 [19:34:01] <SoakedNoodle> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: kirb nathanhi Kev- Robby jmsx Attoy Guest76765 beaky Kamilion Wire fivestang ozzloy lel- strk serban richardjohn mnemonic Dreadnaught blaisebool soee HauM1 bzed darxun Swant rxo bit1 adan0s kloeri p8m jiphex georgeowell himicat suffer spooky electrikapricot apt GhostInTheShell blacksyke MoDaXaS mactimes Mad7Scientis
2887 [19:34:01] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: ikevin Hunterkll rancyd WebDawg Spiffy chomwitt SSoulske jgornick_ Speed2u rapha cryptodan cooldude Mortumm_ Geom sonne Nevolution2 twisted` nickstenn loader Zerant petn-randall r00ter ventura volodim c^ Immanuel zmachine sc_ czer00 hoxu kh4| ballessay Modeuse ghoti brian_ phogg sandman13 jab416171 guerby jiphex ephemer0l xiqy_
2888 [19:34:01] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: stu_meat Piper-Off Kurocon tuxcraft1r Archrover Gm4n_ kw21 karlamrhein slugmx jabbsl ephemer0l mutante OtakuSenpai Arsiesys Neobicne-Situaci jiphex conspacer StephenS pfoo hypermist phantomcircuit Exagone313 pron jonvonb Keridos foriin insecurity xp Chex ggherdov slack_ rudi_s vvande rOss^64 candi musalbas heinrich5991 Strife198
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2890 [19:34:02] <SoakedNoodle> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Bryanstein hikiko rdococ gacekjk pitelpan gvvg_ le_pig coruja_ nikitasius tdn thebadshepperd hramrach jlacroix ketralnis d-fence CME cerebro DEPLE jrtc27 disi rdz pipeep JuaN-CruZ SwedeMike Nomads beuker somiaj davascript jpalmer vectr0n|cloud PaulePanter Malinux Logg tremolo elky diveyez sukaeto Louis Werring dwar
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2892 [19:34:02] <tnnn> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Stummi krups aivkiv Wizek_ zz_djz88 Nach0z EnergyCoffee_ oliverio kw21 roniez darkalia pixel_yo banging_ Bonn333 Delf epsilon SQL likcoras sdx23 Neobicne-Situaci lukasdboer dysfigured catsup Carno Croepha GG_Phyduck Zardoz lukas_gab duracrisis puppet_ Orochimarufan libardi thekingo- oberstein Meow-J pingveno is_null whiskey9 rdz
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2922 [19:34:12] <gciywwk> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: lukas_gab Willis rafalcpp refresher de-facto funabashi micronn aindilis mpmc hikiko dionysus69 n4cht pcdummy situz glitch_hat is_null mingdao sn0wmonster rtsisyk spacebug^ nkuttler vectr0n malademental Immanuel rOss^64 eir jrtc27 nopf ygeLN homegrown emilsedgh Sabotender d-fence chachasmooth #de nicechap amorel_ Stummi Fastol
2923 [19:34:12] <gciywwk> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: johnnyfive shahri enovella nomad_dw eir PPaFin iamtheneon AciD` JyZyXEL phogg Orochimarufan nathanhi dirac1 kabo wickedmic boris_t ripdog Pwnna macartur xingu fonshua LtL morf ecksun alxy ecelis Mmike Nazara hawken Piper-Off Ben64 ToeSnacks Dev0n gb00s funabashi attrimap_ MoDaXaS alprazolam mz` petan lavenders hoxu Bryanstein
2924 [19:34:12] <drtor> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Piggy BeamWatcher phogg MissionCritical Sasasu Spec fireba11 nutron mcintosh sn0wmonster leemar__ sqz davdunc flyingkiwi karstensrage davimore_ bois ecksun smurfd_ satbyy hahainternet twisted` Logg t3tsu0 DeaDSouL Andocromn thurin Orbitrix solarnetone sphalerite therock247uk xSmurf Scaniatrucker Stummi pfoo apollojustice akib
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2929 [19:34:13] <Tas> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: MACscr yaymuffins deadgekk1 ramshadow ScottE bilal80 k4tfish quite Orphis awal1 jonty percY- dgriffi Epakai kh4| jazz verm1n hlmjr Nach0z b30wulf flyingkiwi musca` hramrach pfote rdococ MyIgel Swant Puckel_ eki DzAirmaX fFamousfFatman ringonoki Kevin` AciD` ozzloy blacksyke Cabanossi jlacroix bmr Adbray fassl stan_eu malademental
2930 [19:34:13] <Tas> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: ramshadow ___id hasdf scc_ zack6849 Atlas namix twisted` ASpacy Rubin ChuMar1_ neffs JesseWalling klaas aar petn-randall spacebison hex2a hanasaki chomwitt thekingo- Scaniatrucker roguelazer LunchMoney cherti Ticho savoir-faire dselect armin latez_ gciywwk Relicka hid3 Logg dgriffi Poppabear LorD_n1c0w coruja_ kw21 duracrisis r4mp
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2932 [19:34:13] <xihzaadv> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: ircnode0 dbristow somepoortech gigetoo cef int0x27h Bercik karstensrage petn-randall spacebison duoi v4s djramon oberstein MichaelSasser cmichel scc_ greycat vincent_c blackest_mamba DK2 BeamWatcher fatalis StatlerX Mariio1692_ AndrewMC ckuehl jhebden s0ph0s Kyoshiro armin Alina-malina klaas psychicist__ `z fcharton tty0
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2935 [19:34:13] <qemaa> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: mumixam Spitfire bazquxer peterrooney r00ter rax- M-shine Sargun hubot foriin Quantumcross MasterNayru Cavedude rheddry fred`` buffal0 SM0TVI Qrc^ attrimap_ aaro Pseudo InFerNo_ gre blacksyke _systemd_is_evil thims Nitori hexa- xingu gb00s nwe vivid SleePy Piper-Off kw21 jazz Noah0504 sobkas boser nO0b Sir_Designer hundfred
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2938 [19:34:15] <darkk> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: nauticalnexus n tvsutton Achylles Hestben rancyd MissionCritical patterson r4mpage awdfew3roi wakd dbgr lsyoyom kabo mutante george-angel[m] heinrich5991 dayten AlwaysHigh Hijiri ChunkzZ LambdaComplex hue delYsid vectr0n|cloud whiskey9 Meow-J JuaN-CruZ sm0kew0n _aeris_ brimonk puppet_ Ring0` gusnan Jurkki_ ericnoan bilal80 Dig
2939 [19:34:15] <darkk> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: tsurko Laserburn TuxShells imMute^ abra0 MyIgel benaiah raSter^ riot voipmonk James_T funabashi phate408 Mir4g3 n0arch sabbie_ Meow-J kw21 Kev- flokuehn SleePy Zharf ToeSnacks ircnode0 davascript electrikapricot Danielss89 Saar akxwi-dave phix fFamousf AndrewAlexMac Ekchuan jordanm de-facto naos62 vectr0n|cloud melvin amospall
2940 [19:34:15] <uyxcm> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: gareth__ Diaoul Old_Dog Bl4ckC0re gigetoo fonshua leachim6 tobias1 EmleyMoor bauerj pvoigt krazedkat thims medicalwei Downer MoDaXaS t0mmy hirow Red_M_ ^v forcerecon r0bby elky bazquxer Waggie freanux bluequijote systo Canucktux_ plicease Devastator deadgekk1 mukmuk degenerate bruce549 jhebden sirecote cusco remo xiqy_ naos
2941 [19:34:15] <jmirdp> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: brunus lykzmgrw lohenpaa patterson pierrot afx237 {sd} Wyzard jelly ecelis futex blackwell SM0TVI hexa- AN0NYM acecile HeOS cooldude teraflops Hestben DarkDevil urzds cbdev k4y4mm raSter^ Louis zz_phar6oor adan0s totonika tobias1 mcintosh banging_ fleaz imawriterugh helldorado ArlequInOut fstd orb samtunez benaiah zz_djz88 bol
2942 [19:34:15] <jmirdp> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: GhostInTheShell Danielss89 Cavedude ibex CheBuzz nymony Celelibi DzAirmaX Asoka SSoulske Ishaq jim cryptic jonasbits_ at0m jpinx k0nsl karlamrhein AndrewMC MonsterKiller jmsx Yugidude1 zack6849 CrazyyMaxx TomG2 AJ_Z0 Rajsun boser WizardGed krzych TmvC brolin_empey Achylles Xjs|moonshine pelegreno_____ iLogic GNUtoo-irssi solos
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2945 [19:34:15] <jmirdp> CRONUS IS GIVING OUT FREE COCK SUCKING IN #FREENODE..MESSAGE HIM..HE IS UGLY AS FUCK AND MISSING SOME TEETH BUT CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK!!: Olufunmilayo db` hahainternet webpigeon kirb ygeLN XDS2010 James_T satbyy Exagone313 terr1 papitfx alexlist thalos Aeon- Renari Zerant fooctrl MACscr SwedeMike mossman Dev0n amcorreia Voldenet ksx4system Silicium swordsmanz bwf legit namix Nomads clopez_ samnob Noskcaj uxfi krzych Geom hoxu ben_roose |subz3r0| boxrick1 hiroki
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2949 [19:34:19] *** greycat sets mode: +q $~a
2950 [19:34:19] <nickenchuggets> this again
2951 [19:34:21] <forcerecon> oh this is much better
2952 [19:34:22] <krazedkat> Oh boy
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2954 [19:34:27] *** LoRez sets mode: -r
2955 [19:34:29] <krazedkat> I love it when the kids learn how to run a script
2956 [19:34:29] <dionysus69> wtf
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2959 [19:34:52] <dionysus69> is this an irc script?
2960 [19:34:59] * ChunkzZ looks around - not important after all
2961 [19:35:01] <Exagone313> btw who wanted to teach debhelper?
2962 [19:35:05] <zykotick9> nickenchuggets: krazedkat dionysus69 please don't comment about spam...
2963 [19:35:13] <dionysus69> ok sorry zykotick9 xD
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2968 [19:36:11] <xp> How do I update a single package on my jessie? It's a raspbian, I want to update iptables from oldstable to stable
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2973 [19:36:51] <mrr0butt> apt-get install pkgname
2974 [19:37:09] <rapha> *sigh*
2975 [19:37:09] <krazedkat> apt-get install --only upgrade pkgname
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2977 [19:37:21] <krazedkat> oops, --only-upgrade
2978 [19:37:30] <greycat> xp: go to #raspbian for Raspbian support, please.
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2981 [19:37:49] <dionysus69> I understand what smbd service is but do i need nmbd? cause it takes 5 seconds to initialize sometimes
2982 [19:37:54] <xp> greycat: It's a debian, isn't it? I would do it just like I do in my desktop
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2984 [19:38:15] <dionysus69> xp still there is a channel division.
2985 [19:38:24] <greycat> It is not Debian. It is a distro that's *derived* from Debian. And you are attempting to mix two releases, which is *completely* unsupportable.
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2988 [19:39:31] <xp> greycat: So how to do it on Debian?
2989 [19:39:51] <greycat> You don't.
2990 [19:39:54] <greycat> !dontbreakdebian
2991 [19:39:54] <dpkg> dont break debian is, like, replaced-url
2992 [19:39:56] <mrr0butt> inb4 whats the point of a iface name when its harder to lern then a mac address
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2994 [19:40:01] <DexterF> hi
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2996 [19:40:18] <greycat> ,v iptables
2997 [19:40:19] <judd> Package: iptables on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.4.14-3.1; jessie: 1.4.21-2+b1; buster: 1.6.0+snapshot20161117-6; stretch: 1.6.0+snapshot20161117-6; sid: 1.6.1-1
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2999 [19:40:37] <DexterF> i put firmware.tar.gz on a usb hdd, installer does not find it. I extracted it to the hdd's base folder, installer deos not find it
3000 [19:40:38] <greycat> ,checkbackport iptables --fromrelease jessie --torelease wheezy
3001 [19:40:39] <judd> Backporting package iptables in jessie→wheezy/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy.
3002 [19:40:52] <DexterF> is there an install medium that has nonfree fw? I don't care
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3004 [19:41:06] <greycat> On Debian, you could attempt to build a backport of iptables from jessie deb-src to wheezy (binaries), but Raspbian may not work the same. That's why we can't support Raspbian.
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3006 [19:41:31] <mrr0butt> replaced-url
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3009 [19:42:05] <DexterF> mrr0butt, didnt see that. thanks.
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3016 [19:44:04] <mrr0butt> DexterF dont use "9.0.1live+non-free" for installation
3017 [19:44:27] <greycat> Are the 9.0.1 live images *still* broken?
3018 [19:44:34] <CuSn> Lorez, request perm for pm?
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3024 [19:45:21] <CuSn> greycat: Are you foreseeing events? :)
3025 [19:45:34] <CuSn> oh, unsetting.
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3027 [19:45:58] <mrr0butt> 2 days ago it was, no root login after install posible and user not in sudoers file
3028 [19:46:01] <CuSn> greycat: pm?
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3031 [19:48:01] <DexterF> mrr0butt, any .1 live?
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3035 [19:50:16] <mrr0butt> did not try every
3036 [19:50:24] <mrr0butt> but i guess
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3038 [19:51:02] <DexterF> well, regular was always fine
3039 [19:51:05] <greycat> I don't see it on replaced-url
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3047 [19:53:31] <nikitasius> simp_: well bucket per client not so flexy solution. Finally S3 have limit 100 buckets per account. Sure - they can increase it, but 5000 users better than 100 :) same time i dont have 100 clients, but it's not flexy anyway.
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3049 [19:53:45] <CuSn> greycat: You were renowned for your Sun support (iirc) Have you switched to debian as your main system?
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3052 [19:54:12] <greycat> You're either confusing me with someone else, or misrepresenting which Unixes I've supported.
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3056 [19:54:57] <CuSn> probably the latter
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3059 [19:55:34] <CuSn> "misremembering"
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3071 [19:58:38] <rsmith> .
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3076 [20:00:27] <dionysus69> how do i delay service startup? lets say 1 min after boot?
3077 [20:00:38] <greycat> What are you *really* trying to do?
3078 [20:00:53] <dionysus69> trying to start postgresql later
3079 [20:00:54] <greycat> Delay something until the network is working?
3080 [20:00:59] <dionysus69> so it doesnt spend 2 seconds starting up
3081 [20:01:07] <dionysus69> nojust delay :P
3082 [20:01:31] <pacha> dionysus69: I did a rule after delay.service, and delay.service was just a bash script with sleep 1000
3083 [20:01:44] <dionysus69> this is a personal laptop so I am just doing some experiements, 2 seconds doesnt kill me but trying to make it as fast as possible at boot for fun
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3086 [20:02:06] <dionysus69> i am too bad with systemd (noob)
3087 [20:02:15] <dionysus69> is there some kind of example you could send me ?
3088 [20:02:20] <greycat> I, uh... guess you could do ExecStartPre=sleep 2
3089 [20:02:24] <pacha> dionysus69: sure wait a second
3090 [20:02:47] <greycat> Haven't tried, but it's in man systemd.service
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3095 [20:04:44] <pacha> dionysus69: can you give me your .service script? look up in /etc/systemd/system/ or do find /etc/systemd -iname "*postgrepsql*"
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3101 [20:06:13] <dionysus69> ok one sek
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3106 [20:08:06] <dionysus69> sudo systemctl status postgresql shows the destination better :P
3107 [20:08:43] <dionysus69> heres the service file
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3109 [20:08:43] <dionysus69> replaced-url
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3111 [20:09:04] <dionysus69> --- /lib/systemd/system/postgresql.service
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3113 [20:09:24] <greycat> Showing unmodified default Debian files isn't all that helpful.
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3116 [20:09:51] <dionysus69> what else do I show? I dont have anything else
3117 [20:09:54] <greycat> Although... I'm not sure what that thing is. Why does it have ExecStart=/bin/true
3118 [20:09:57] <dionysus69> that's where the service is starting from
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3120 [20:10:08] <dionysus69> dunno it's stock
3121 [20:10:23] <Grandolf> debhelper lorez to prevent spammers it is possible to require a registered username to join channel
3122 [20:10:28] <greycat> Oh, the comments at the top... uh... jesus this shit is confusing.
3123 [20:10:33] <LoRez> Grandolf: yes, we know.
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3129 [20:11:18] <LoRez> I've personally only been on freenode about 16 years.
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3131 [20:11:28] <Grandolf> srry
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3134 [20:13:03] <pacha> dionysus69: replaced-url
3135 [20:13:26] <greycat> I don't see why you wouldn't just use ExecStartPre=sleep whatever
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3139 [20:13:39] <dionysus69> where would that line go?
3140 [20:13:46] <dionysus69> I am too noob with services stuff :D
3141 [20:13:46] <pacha> the first is the modified postgresql.service you sent me, the later one do a sudo touch /etc/systemd/system/delay.service and paste it there
3142 [20:14:15] <greycat> In a drop-in thingy for whichever service is being modified. /etc/systemd/system/foobar.service.d/sleep.conf
3143 [20:14:24] <greycat> You'd also need [Service] above it.
3144 [20:14:34] <dionysus69> so anything that is in that /etc/systemd/system with service extension gets executed by default?
3145 [20:14:45] <pacha> dionysus69: depends if it is enabled, but yes
3146 [20:15:12] <pacha> dionysus69: in a more serious envoriment that is full of symbolic links, I usually point to /dev/null when I want to disable something
3147 [20:15:15] <greycat> Drop-in thingies are described in "man systemd.unit", search for drop-in
3148 [20:15:32] <dionysus69> so when I execute delay service how does it know which service to delay? atm looks like it would delay everything
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3150 [20:16:09] <greycat> Creating a delay service and then telling postgres-whatever to depend on it is a lot more work.
3151 [20:16:28] <dionysus69> ok I ll try your solution greycat, just that one line
3152 [20:16:32] <greycat> Two lines.
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3154 [20:17:32] <greycat> The hard part, I think, is going to be figuring out the exact service name that you are dropping-in on. Based on that replaced-url
3155 [20:17:32] <dionysus69> ExecStartPre=sleep 60 is one line isnt it ? :D
3156 [20:17:40] <greycat> 14:14 greycat> You'd also need [Service] above it.
3157 [20:18:06] <dionysus69> -- /lib/systemd/system/postgresql.service
3158 [20:18:15] <greycat> Did you READ the thing you pasted?
3159 [20:18:25] <dionysus69> ye it has [Service in it]
3160 [20:18:35] <greycat> "No, I didn't read it."
3161 [20:18:40] <Nothing4You> i'm trying to modify a package locally
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3163 [20:19:01] <dionysus69> I dont know what the comment means, if you mean reading it
3164 [20:19:14] <greycat> I don't have postgresql installed on a post-wheezy box so I don't know what the hell Debian did. But that service file you pasted is NOT normal.
3165 [20:19:27] <Nothing4You> it doesn't use any patches yet, when trying to create a new patch following the guide from replaced-url
3166 [20:19:40] <greycat> Look for another service, probably with an @ sign in it.
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3181 [20:23:03] <greycat> (Or... maybe delaying this service-that-is-really-a-target-but-literally-a-service might work. Who knows.)
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3188 [20:25:33] <dionysus69> greycat: i ll try finding service with @ sign one sek
3189 [20:25:35] <xp> greycat: Thanks for pointing me to !dontbreakdebian :D
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3191 [20:26:24] <teraflops> derpbian :P
3192 [20:26:39] <`Kevin> ^
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3196 [20:27:42] <TheSin> anyhow have any luck getting solr-jetty working on stretch?
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3199 [20:29:11] <pacha> TheSin: are you building from source or getting it somewhere else? I had no problems with the one that is in the repo
3200 [20:29:18] <TheSin> debian package
3201 [20:29:32] <pacha> TheSin: what is the problem then?
3202 [20:29:56] <TheSin> I am running the one form jesse without issues, on jetty8, not with jetty9 it doesn't seem to even attempt to start xmls in the /etc/jetty9/contexts dir
3203 [20:30:46] <TheSin> I've added deploy to --module and still nothing in contexts seems to start
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3212 [20:32:44] <space777> hi
3213 [20:32:58] <mabynogy> hi space777
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3215 [20:33:35] <space777> irc is cool
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3220 [20:35:34] <TheSin> pacha, I really wish I knew what i was doing wrong hoenstly. it I include contexts/solr.xml in jetty.conf (which doesnt' seem right) then it processes it but fails to load with a large msg in the stderr log), so I assume that isnt' right and it should be loading contexts on it's own but isn't
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3223 [20:35:55] <dionysus69> greycat: replaced-url
3224 [20:36:03] <dionysus69> heres the @ sign service file at the same dir
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3226 [20:36:17] <greycat> But what file *is* that?
3227 [20:36:49] <greycat> People, everyone, when you make a paste, be sure to include the *command* that generates the output, not just the output.
3228 [20:36:56] <pacha> TheSin: do you really have to use jetty+solr? cant help you much, I used solr with apache2 before then moved to elasticsearch as it was simpler to configure imho.
3229 [20:37:03] <dionysus69> -- /lib/systemd/system/postgresql@.service
3230 [20:37:22] <greycat> OK. Then to override this one you would use /etc/systemd/system/postfresql@.service.d/*.conf
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3233 [20:37:49] <dionysus69> ok thats too complicated for me
3234 [20:37:58] <dionysus69> i dont want to overide stock service :D
3235 [20:38:08] <TheSin> pacha, thanks for trying, I kinda have to as I'm jsut the admin that is running the site that uses solr and I want to upgrade to jetty9 so it'll still be supported by debian
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3237 [20:38:22] <greycat> But that's exactly what you have been asking for this entire time. How to change the operation of the postgresql service.
3238 [20:38:22] <dionysus69> I would continue if there was a chance of adding that one sleep line to existing service file
3239 [20:38:50] <greycat> Creating a 2-line drop in is *safer* than copying the entire file and editing it.
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3241 [20:38:59] <dionysus69> what do you mean by overiding, what would the content of the file be?
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3243 [20:39:04] <greycat> If the Debian service changes, your copy won't.
3244 [20:39:24] <greycat> [Service]
3245 [20:39:25] <greycat> ExecStartPre=sleep 5
3246 [20:39:31] <dionysus69> ohh that
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3251 [20:39:56] <dionysus69> then it is fine, I thought it would involve duplicating full code and stock would be left blind if changed in the future
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3253 [20:40:06] <dionysus69> blind > orphaned
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3255 [20:40:44] <dionysus69> ok so /etc/systemd/system/postfresql@.service.d/postgresql.conf will contain those two lines. correct ? :D
3256 [20:41:08] <greycat> fix the typo
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3260 [20:41:29] <dionysus69> oh well ye g instead of f
3261 [20:41:50] <greycat> Get in the habit of triple-checking the filenames you use with systemd.
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3264 [20:42:08] <greycat> Subtle errors in the filename will lead to very confusing results.
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3268 [20:42:55] <dionysus69> you sure that isa correct dir and a correct filename though
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3270 [20:43:11] <greycat> /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@.service.d/anything.conf
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3279 [20:44:38] <dionysus69> -- /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@.service.d/delay_postgresq.conf with those lines with 30 second delay
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3282 [20:44:42] <dionysus69> gonna reboot and check :D
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3301 [20:49:29] <xp> Is there a helper package that shows information about what ports are used for what services?
3302 [20:49:42] <dionysus69> greycat: heelp :D
3303 [20:49:45] <dionysus69> [/etc/systemd/system/postgresql@.service.d/postgresql_delay.conf:2] Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: sleep 30
3304 [20:49:46] <ElGrotto> netstat -natup
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3306 [20:49:56] <dionysus69> that is in dmesg
3307 [20:49:59] <ElGrotto> or less /etc/services
3308 [20:49:59] <greycat> Damn. Make it /bin/sleep then.
3309 [20:50:10] <dionysus69> oh ok thanks let me try again :D
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3312 [20:50:38] <ElGrotto> depending on whether you meant what programs are running on your computer or what common ports are assigned.
3313 [20:50:40] <greycat> At least you got confirmation that it read that file. :)
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3315 [20:51:30] <xp> ElGrotto: I mean a program that says "SSH" when I ask "What runs on port 22?"
3316 [20:51:41] <ElGrotto> oh, second one then
3317 [20:51:44] <ElGrotto> less /etc/services
3318 [20:51:47] <ElGrotto> common service assignments
3319 [20:51:49] <greycat> xp: netstat -pant | grep :22 or lsof -i :22
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3323 [20:52:17] <greycat> xp: I assume you mean "is actually running on, right now, for reals" not "is typically run on"
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3329 [20:53:03] <xp> greycat: More like "What is this port normally used for?"
3330 [20:53:07] <greycat> Oh.
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3332 [20:53:20] <greycat> Well, that's not an interesting question :( And ElGrotto already answered it.
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3334 [20:53:38] <ElGrotto> I answered both :D
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3337 [20:54:10] <ElGrotto> if you want to know what programs are running on your computer, netstat -natup | grep LISTEN
3338 [20:54:20] <dionysus69> hey greycat that worked thanks so much :D
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3340 [20:54:38] <dionysus69> but can you explain a pattern behind the dirname? cause thats the only dir with that kind of name
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3343 [20:55:32] <dionysus69> some_service_name.service.d would be the proper dirname for any other service I wanted to modify?
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3345 [20:55:41] <dionysus69> with a conf file inside
3346 [20:55:58] <greycat> dionysus69: drop-in thingies are documented in "man systemd.unit", search for "drop-in"
3347 [20:56:08] <ElGrotto> oh if anyone is bored and has a debian bugs account (I really can't be bothered and I have to go), bug #614070 has nothing to do with network connection being unavailable, it's a resolver failure (nxdomain) and if you simply typo the cddb hostname (like freedb.musicbrains.org instead of freedb.musicbrainz.org as I just did) it reproduces the segfault fine :P lol.
3348 [20:56:09] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3350 [20:56:19] <xp> ElGrotto: Thank you
3351 [20:56:23] <dionysus69> ok thanks again! cheers
3352 [20:56:44] <Kristjan55555> Hello! Hot 33 year old white male from viljandi, estonia searching for wife, send me your naked body pictures first! Tel 37253902210 email: kristjan55555@mail.ee. I am waiting.....
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3357 [20:57:40] <mrr0butt> dickpicks incomming baby
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3360 [20:57:51] <greycat> Please don't respond to the spammers.
3361 [20:57:56] <mrr0butt> k
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3363 [20:58:51] <danwellby> if you have to register them to spam emails and telemarketers
3364 [20:58:55] <LtL> I've read the release notes and from what i can tell i should comment out my backports deb line before the dist-upgrade etc., i only have maybe two packages backported (IRC clients) so … should i comment backports deb line or change it to stretch also?
3365 [20:59:16] <greycat> That's up to you.
3366 [20:59:44] <greycat> Actually, I'm not even sure whether stretch-backports has been created yet.
3367 [20:59:49] <maunix> Hi all. perhaps some silly question. I installed debian 3 weeks ago. I did many previous installations and I always chose 'testing'. So i did installed using stretch. To keep on 'testing' should i change when debian 9 is officially released?
3368 [21:00:05] <greycat> Debian 9 was released a week ago. You're too late.
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3370 [21:00:20] <LtL> greycat: me? i figure there cant be much in stretch-backports yet so just go ahead and roll with a comment?
3371 [21:00:25] <maunix> greycat: :)
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3373 [21:00:28] <greycat> If you've been following testing after the 17th, you're already post-stretch and you're committed to buster, or eternal testing.
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3375 [21:00:53] <maunix> i was and I am following stretch.
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3377 [21:01:10] <maunix> so I should change it, right?
3378 [21:01:26] <greycat> You said you had 'testing'. Now you say you had 'stretch'.
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3381 [21:02:19] <maunix> it is stretch but when i installed stretch wasn't official so it was sort of 'testing' right?
3382 [21:02:34] <greycat> Did it SAY 'stretch' or did it SAY 'testing'?
3383 [21:02:50] <maunix> on my repositories it says stretch
3384 [21:03:06] <greycat> And it never said 'testing'? Ever? Then you are fine. You're safely on stretch.
3385 [21:03:51] <maunix> yes i am on stretch for sure.
3386 [21:04:07] <maunix> but i use it as desktop for my develop and i like to be with latests firefox for example
3387 [21:04:21] <maunix> but now i have firefox 52 where the latests is 54
3388 [21:04:27] <maunix> that's just an example
3389 [21:04:44] <greycat> That is completely normal. firefox-esr is 52.x. That is the most recent Firefox ESR release.
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3391 [21:05:32] <maunix> weird i have 54 on my desktop at my job (on wi------)
3392 [21:05:44] <maunix> slashes are intentional :)
3393 [21:05:50] <greycat> Then your "desktop" isn't running firefox-esr. It's running firefox-release.
3394 [21:06:07] <maunix> oh i see
3395 [21:06:16] <greycat> AKA break every month instead of break every 10-12 months.
3396 [21:06:39] <maunix> well going back to my first question, if i stay on stretch, i will be 'stable' is it? if i want to be testing (not unstable) i have to move to eternal?
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3400 [21:07:08] <greycat> If you want eternal testing, change 'stretch' to 'testing'. If you want to be on CURRENT testing but only until it becomes stable, then change 'stretch' to 'buster'.
3401 [21:07:09] <teraflops> hmm there's no beta version at replaced-url
3402 [21:07:21] <xp> Do I need to run "apt upgrade" before running "apt dist-upgrade"?
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3404 [21:07:48] <greycat> xp: we *still* don't support Raspbian. Ask them.
3405 [21:08:04] <maunix> greycat: thanks. i will change to testing then .
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3408 [21:08:13] <xp> greycat: I'm upgrading my debian system
3409 [21:08:21] <greycat> Then follow the Debian release notes.
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3411 [21:08:59] <xp> greycat: I'm just trying to understand how these commands work
3412 [21:09:10] <greycat> Read their man pages.
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3415 [21:10:10] <relaxedmyfriend> hi
3416 [21:10:13] <relaxedmyfriend> guys
3417 [21:10:56] <xp> greycat: You can go "Yes" or "No" next time
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3419 [21:11:01] <linuxmario> Hi relaxedmyfriend
3420 [21:11:11] <greycat> xp: You can go to #raspbian and read the fine manuals.
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3438 [21:18:28] <sherab> is there a program to read ebook outloud - text to speech ? debian jessie seems to have a thing called screen reader but it does not wrok - i've switched it on in the settings
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3440 [21:20:23] <relaxedmyfriend> sherab, yeah .
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3443 [21:20:43] <linuxthefish> hey, does anyone know what's up with the openjdk-9-jre package on stretch? there is no conf directory in JAVA_HOME so the error "java.lang.SecurityException: Can't read cryptographic policy directory: unlimited" happens when trying to run anything
3444 [21:20:44] <relaxedmyfriend> actually it doesn't have to be on debian. it works on any Linux system.
3445 [21:21:31] <relaxedmyfriend> sherab, you can check this blog cnblogs.com/spaceship9 and search keyword tts to get support
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3448 [21:22:00] <relaxedmyfriend> replaced-url
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3475 [21:31:59] <jhutchins> ,v ebook-speaker
3476 [21:32:00] <judd> Package: ebook-speaker on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.0-3; jessie: 2.8.1-1+deb8u1; buster: 4.1.0-2; stretch: 4.1.0-2; sid: 4.1.0-2
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3483 [21:34:40] <linuxthefish> hey, does anyone know what "Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Assistive Technology not found: org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper" means I'm missing?
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3487 [21:35:58] <linuxthefish> i'm not even blind so I don't know why java wants this
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3503 [21:39:11] <jhutchins> linuxthefish: replaced-url
3504 [21:39:42] <jhutchins> linuxthefish: Why not paste that term into google?
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3511 [21:41:08] <linuxthefish> jhutchins i think you mean sherab?
3512 [21:41:27] <greycat> googling your exact error text is a fundamental starting point for many problems
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3516 [21:42:26] <jhutchins> linuxthefish: Yeah,oops.
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3523 [21:44:23] <jhutchins> sherab: I also see lots of references to Pico speech or picospeaker, but nothing about how to install or use it. Their website is misconfigured & down.
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3530 [21:46:51] <jhutchins> linuxthefish Oh, lookie here: First hit from "aptitude search atk"...
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3545 [21:48:56] <sherab> linuxthefish, thanks man i am going through it now
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3547 [21:49:10] <sherab> jhutchins, thanks man i am going to look into it
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3616 [22:25:59] <boser> fuck, spammer. who can grill there balls.
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3620 [22:26:32] <Antares> replaced-url
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3622 [22:28:57] <`Kevin> set usermode to +R
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3624 [22:29:10] <`Kevin> replaced-url
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3626 [22:29:39] <greycat> Please stop responding to the spam. Please stop suggesting that we change long-standing channel policies.
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3628 [22:29:52] <`Kevin> im not suggesting the channel mode
3629 [22:30:10] <greycat> ... yeah, OK, changing usermode might be fine for some. That's up to you.
3630 [22:30:13] <`Kevin> :)
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3632 [22:31:25] <boser> :-)
3633 [22:33:02] <greycat> It says +R blocks "private messages" on that web page, though. Unless that's IRC doublespeak, like when you "private message" to a channel in the protocol, I don't think that'll solve the issue most people complain about.
3634 [22:33:40] <boser> excuse my, but i have to do it ones. I will never do it again.
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3637 [22:35:08] <`Kevin> it will prevent /query spam to individual users from non-registered but yea thats about it (helps some)
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3641 [22:37:06] <superrorc> hey guys! why some characters in man pages on on help pages are blank? characters replaced-url
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3645 [22:38:12] <superrorc> don't know how to google it
3646 [22:38:14] <boser> are you using UTF-8 ?
3647 [22:38:18] <Antares> : D
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3649 [22:38:31] <superrorc> if i do man | less - all looks good
3650 [22:38:34] <superrorc> yep
3651 [22:38:43] <fcku> Hello
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3653 [22:38:53] <Antares> hi им
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3655 [22:39:15] <boser> locate ?
3656 [22:39:43] <superrorc> master@top-stanok:~$ localeLANG=en_US.utf8
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3659 [22:40:37] <greycat> superrorc: are you logged directly into the Debian system? Or are you ssh-ing in from something else?
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3669 [22:43:03] <superrorc> its my home machine, directly via gdm3
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3671 [22:43:47] <superrorc> i have got this issue on 8.8 to
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3686 [22:46:49] <jelly> superrorc: that looks vaguely like a terminal emulation, attributes or colors issue -- as if some text, eg. the parts that are supposed to be bold or some other non-default attribute, get drawn as black on black background
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3688 [22:47:19] <jelly> superrorc: which terminal emulator are you using? Does this issue persist in xterm?
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3691 [22:48:34] <superrorc> oh, nice cache! i am using gnome terminal with Run cmds as login shell
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3694 [22:48:52] <superrorc> *option
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3700 [22:50:47] <superrorc> where should i look for bash color settings?
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3702 [22:51:23] <greycat> Bash doesn't use colors, except for bash 4.4 and filename completion.
3703 [22:51:26] <jelly> you did not answer whether the same thing happens in xterm
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3706 [22:52:06] <greycat> And even that got turned off by default before the bash 4.4.0 release; you have to enable it in ~/.inputrc
3707 [22:52:27] <th0r> superrorc, the old way was to define all that in .Xdefaults
3708 [22:52:52] <greycat> X terminal emulators may use settings from ~/.Xresources or similar files, via xrdb. Or via command line arguments.
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3714 [22:54:25] <superrorc> jelly, in xterm its looking properly
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3723 [22:56:51] <superrorc> ohh no ~/.inputr and ~/.Xresources in my home
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3734 [22:59:31] <greycat> .inputrc wouldn't affect gnome-terminal, or man, or less. .Xresources could affect gnome-terminal in theory. If your problem is just with gnome-terminal then I don't know how to proceed.
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3758 [23:07:29] <Antares> replaced-url
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3762 [23:09:50] <superrorc> thanks guys i will continue to looking
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3775 [23:13:37] <jhutchins> superrorc: Have you set a color scheme in gnome terminal?
3776 [23:13:48] <jhutchins> superrorc: Or changed any other settings?
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3789 [23:17:00] <teraflops> superrorc: right click → profiles → profile preferences → colors ^^
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3808 [23:26:22] <prodigel> hey all. Because of a shitty custom Checkpoint VPN client I need a combination of 4.8.0.54 kernel + firefox 51 + custom java version. I'm an ubuntu user (yes, yes stone me) and for some reason all my attempts to install an older kernetl, older distro versoin failed. Any debian recommendations on this one? :D
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3822 [23:32:56] <jolt> prodigel: look into openconnect vpn client. It supports most weird implementations that you otherwise need java and shit for
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3825 [23:34:02] <prodigel> jolt, unortunately I don't have a choice
3826 [23:34:47] <prodigel> custom build means individually customized build (security shit is to the roof)
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3828 [23:35:17] <jolt> prodigel: Weird, but at least you heard of it then
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