• 0[00:00:02] <glick> and bash scripting
• 1[00:00:03] <BlueXombie> not my fualt if you puke
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• 3[00:00:07] <jpw> mmm i keep meaning to learn awk
• 4[00:00:10] <BlueXombie> bash! i love bash
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• 6[00:00:22] <teraflops> glick: awk is great
• 7[00:00:31] <jpw> all ive known for 10 years is `awk '{ print $x }'
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• 9[00:00:36] <teraflops> hehe
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• 14[00:00:56] <glick> yeah awk looks cool
• 15[00:01:15] <glick> been reading TLCL free book
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• 17[00:01:18] <glick> from starch press
• 18[00:01:20] <glick> good book
• 19[00:01:25] <teraflops> glick: you can even make awkmusic
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• 22[00:01:58] <econdudeawesome> Can anyone recommend tools to recover files that ignore the file system? I don't want photorec since I have more than just photos to recovery
• 23[00:02:00] <jpw> i bet it sounds terrible
• 24[00:02:03] <teraflops> glick: replaced-url
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• 26[00:02:43] <jpw> sees srand, assumprions confirmed
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• 29[00:04:36] <SerajewelKS> econdudeawesome: i think that's the kind of thing that digital forensic tools are designed to do
• 30[00:05:12] <teraflops> SerajewelKS: sudo pip install things looks terrible if you ask me
• 31[00:05:22] <dondelelcaro> SerajewelKS: ah; it's the backport which is msising the dependency, and that's #861513
• 32[00:05:23] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 33[00:05:53] <dondelelcaro> (I think I'm running an older verison of the backport which doesn't have that issue)
• 34[00:06:06] <SerajewelKS> dondelelcaro: makes sense
• 35[00:06:12] <jpw> econdudeawesome: dd if you are hardcore. but seriously if you were using a semi decient superblock you should go looking for the backup superblocks
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• 39[00:06:56] <jpw> s/decient\ superblock/decient\ filesystem/
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• 41[00:08:29] <jpw> the problem is that a file may not be sequential on a disk. your only real hope is to recover the filesystem
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• 53[00:17:21] <yaomtc> SerajewelKS: "Requirement already satisfied: ndg-httpsclient in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages"
• 54[00:17:45] <yaomtc> So it should just work out of the box, but thanks for the heads up anyway
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• 57[00:18:34] <Sleaker> I've got a question about the debian installer and how it loads modules in the preset phase.
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• 59[00:19:15] <Sleaker> having problems with a customized disc not extracting the correct kernel modules for vmware NIC, and not really sure where to go to look at why it works on an official disk vs my customized one.
• 60[00:19:17] <jpw> Sleaker: go ahead
• 61[00:19:36] <jpw> do you mean vmxnet3?
• 62[00:19:51] <Sleaker> the initrd/vmlinuz are identical, and don't contain the .ko that is used in ethdetect step.
• 63[00:20:00] <Sleaker> it's loading pcnet32.
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• 65[00:20:05] <Sleaker> fails on my customized image on mii.ko
• 66[00:20:12] <jpw> what vmware interface is set in vcenter?
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• 68[00:20:59] <Sleaker> it's using bridged on my intel interface.
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• 70[00:21:19] <jpw> oh so you're using vmware workstation?
• 71[00:21:22] <Sleaker> I'm just wondering how I go about telling why it works on an official disk vs mine.
• 72[00:21:23] <Sleaker> yah
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• 74[00:21:36] <Sleaker> seems like something not loading properly in debian-installer.
• 75[00:21:48] <Sleaker> and d-i is a bit difficult to debug.
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• 77[00:21:59] <jpw> that shouldn't be an issue. the stock intel driver should handle it
• 78[00:22:18] <jpw> can you pastebin the error?
• 79[00:22:19] <Sleaker> well base image the network works fine after it runs ethdetect.
• 80[00:22:38] <Sleaker> in my image it throws unknown module errors mii_*
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• 83[00:23:18] <jpw> how did you build the custom image?
• 84[00:23:40] <Sleaker> we have a standard process to build an image, our previous one worked, trying to get an updated kernel on the image now.
• 85[00:23:43] <Sleaker> for newer hardware.
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• 87[00:24:13] <Sleaker> apt-ftparchive to generate the pool/dists contents, then genisoimage it with isolinux so it's bootable
• 88[00:24:19] <jpw> standard image is still a black box where anything could be going on
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• 92[00:26:04] <jpw> mmm
• 93[00:26:06] <Sleaker> when/where does debian-installer load additional kernel modules for hardware before it starts doing the net-detection and base installation?
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• 106[00:28:13] <jpw> i should know this but i can't remember give me a sec,
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• 121[00:28:55] <Sleaker> thanks much jpw
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• 145[00:32:39] <jpw> i cant remember but i would expect inside the initrd.gz of the architecture you are using
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• 147[00:33:06] <Sleaker> hmm. I mean the initrd on the official disc doesn't have the module.
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• 149[00:33:16] <Sleaker> so it has to be extracting it from somewhere.
• 150[00:33:27] <jpw> however given you are using the stock install it must be coming from somewhere else.
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• 154[00:34:18] <jpw> do you get a shell?
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• 156[00:34:40] <jpw> can you do lspci and `ip l` is the link detected?
• 157[00:34:45] <Sleaker> it's not
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• 159[00:34:59] <Sleaker> the syslog complains about the mii module not getting loaded on my disk
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• 166[00:35:28] <Sleaker> I believe it shows in lspci correctly though, but let me check
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• 401[01:44:34] <AlexPortable> How do I remove a user from a group?
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• 411[01:46:49] <missmbob> AlexPortable: you can just remove them from /etc/group
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• 414[01:47:42] <Sleaker> jpw: so my disc does work on actual hardware, just not on vmware.
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• 416[01:48:05] <AlexPortable> thx
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• 419[01:49:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlexPortable, you can use gpasswd, see the manual
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• 421[01:51:32] <Sleaker> gah I see the issue, some of the udebs got their names truncated when begin copied :-/
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• 428[01:56:09] <nine_milli> #debian…why does it still stand
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• 430[01:56:16] <nine_milli> why do we leave it standing?
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• 441[02:10:41] <dunderproto> Is there a list of wifi cards can run purely on open source software? I'm shopping for a new usb wifi dongle
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• 444[02:11:59] <missmbob> atheros
• 445[02:12:47] <awal1> may be all listed in linux kernel website
• 446[02:12:50] <dunderproto> I found the wikipedia page: replaced-url
• 447[02:15:00] <jvelasquez> I have a file, /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm-2.24.so, that spontaneously changes from a binary into a text file, ld linker script. This is with a freshly generated install of stretch using debootstrap. I've watched this happen over a dozen times, about 2 minutes after booting on a thumb drive created from the debootstraped install. I have a fully automated build script if anyone would like to see it for themselves.
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• 452[02:17:25] <dunderproto> are the reverse engineered wifi drivers any good?
• 453[02:17:33] <dunderproto> sorry, wrong window
• 454[02:18:14] <dunderproto> wait, this was indeed the correct window. :-) Are the reverse engineered wifi drivers any good? Or are they generally unreliable?
• 455[02:18:14] <glick> hey in mutt when i try open mutt nothing happens and when i close i get the following message on the commandline
• 456[02:18:21] <glick> GPGME: CMS protocol not available
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• 458[02:18:48] <glick> i have set crypt_use_gpgme = yes in my .muttrc
• 459[02:18:49] <missmbob> dunderproto: i'm serious. use atheros chipset. open and stable
• 460[02:19:53] <dunderproto> missmbob: Do you use the tpe-n150usb?
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• 462[02:20:33] <missmbob> dunderproto: no. i've bought 5 over the years. no problems and just worked. it's what i always recommend
• 463[02:20:53] <dunderproto> ok, thanks for the advice. I'll see if I can get one reasonably priced
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• 467[02:21:35] <dunderproto> missmbob: can you give me the name of the specific models of your hardware?
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• 470[02:23:14] <missmbob> dunderproto: this is the latest Atheros AR9271
• 471[02:23:48] <Violinist> hwo can i open nautilus as diff user?
• 472[02:23:56] <Violinist> so i can edit file
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• 474[02:24:21] <Violinist> i guess i have to mount it huh
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• 479[02:27:07] <umbSublime> Violinist, gksu/gksudo
• 480[02:27:22] <Violinist> oh right
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• 482[02:27:29] <glick> does debians default mutt in stretch work with pgp?
• 483[02:27:32] <Violinist> but how to just click it in nautilus
• 484[02:27:43] <glick> anyone running mutt with pgp?
• 485[02:27:43] <Violinist> and have it open as diff user
• 486[02:27:52] <umbSublime> ohhh, wouldn't know I don't use nautilus sorry
• 487[02:28:18] <dunderproto> missmbob: this one DNUA-93F
• 488[02:28:24] <Violinist> lol
• 489[02:28:28] <Violinist> i have to ssh into my own comp
• 490[02:28:36] <Violinist> so not doing that
• 491[02:28:36] <dunderproto> replaced-url
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• 497[02:29:27] <umbSublime> Violinist, ssh into your own comp ?? why ?
• 498[02:29:36] <Violinist> lol
• 499[02:29:41] <Violinist> exactly
• 500[02:29:43] <Violinist> wh7yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
• 501[02:29:49] <missmbob> dunderproto: support provided by firmware-atheros
• 502[02:29:51] <Violinist> ok bbl
• 503[02:29:53] <Violinist> thx guys
• 504[02:29:59] <umbSublime> I don;t get what your saying but ok
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• 516[02:35:46] <dunderproto> missmbob: sorry for bothering you about this. Thanks though. I think this wifi card looks good.
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• 519[02:36:05] <missmbob> dunderproto: no worries
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• 587[03:30:05] <VentGrey> Hello internet :D
• 588[03:30:30] <VentGrey> Mind if i ask how much time does Network Manger takes to start in your systems? (systemd)
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• 590[03:32:30] <AlexPortable> Are there similar tools to finger?
• 591[03:32:40] <AlexPortable> So i can also see more information?
• 592[03:32:43] <AlexPortable> e.g. search some configuration files
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• 594[03:34:46] <VentGrey> I usually use "systemd-analyse critical-chain"
• 595[03:35:00] <VentGrey> but my NetworkManager service seems to eat time
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• 597[03:35:28] <VentGrey> NetworkManager.service @12.139s +1.730s
• 598[03:36:28] <nine_milli> bazhang: from this day forward you shall be rendered insane!
• 599[03:36:58] <bazhang> nine_milli, that ship has sailed; also offtopic
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• 662[04:24:53] <n_blownapart> hi on jessie 8 32bit machine, how do I turn off warning while closing a term window with a process running? thanks
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• 699[04:59:53] <pacha> how do I use a network interface for X application (say Firefox or apt-get), and another interface for the rest? I would look it up on a search engine but I am on a limited terminal atm
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• 724[05:20:38] <RedMercury> Hey, I've just installed debian 8.8 and kde - how can I make my system boot into kde on boot? I still get the text prompt
• 725[05:20:50] <RedMercury> systemctl get-default says graphical.target
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• 748[05:47:19] <Arrowmaster> RedMercury: how did you install kde? did you install task-kde-desktop?
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• 750[05:49:03] <RedMercury> yeah
• 751[05:49:10] <RedMercury> seems that my backports for jessie were messing things up
• 752[05:49:16] <RedMercury> only way i could get a gtx 1080 driver in
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• 754[05:49:34] <Arrowmaster> ok you should have sddm installed then and by default it should run on boot
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• 756[05:51:48] <Arrowmaster> you might benefit from running stretch instead since it has plasma 5.8
• 757[05:51:54] <RedMercury> yeah, im upgrading to it now
• 758[05:51:58] <RedMercury> thanks :-)
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• 760[05:53:02] <Arrowmaster> im using it now, before setting up this laptop it had been a long while sinced id stuck with either of the big two DEs and im very happy with it
• 761[05:53:17] <RedMercury> is sddm the login manager for plasma?
• 762[05:53:21] <RedMercury> or some other thing?
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• 764[05:54:22] <RedMercury> right, time to take some more oxycotin
• 765[05:54:24] <RedMercury> yay sinus surgery
• 766[05:54:38] <Arrowmaster> its the default in debian for kde
• 767[05:54:58] <Arrowmaster> i honestly dont know if thats true for 'official kde'
• 768[05:55:21] <Arrowmaster> but probably since its tied in some to the themes and config apps
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• 786[06:20:26] <RedMercury> seriously impressed with the debian upgrade procedure :)
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• 791[06:25:19] <dada78641> Hi there! I'm new to Debian, just wanted to install Atom Editor so I went to their site and downloaded the .deb and .rpm files. However, they open like archives and they're not really installers. How should I install the program?
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• 793[06:25:54] <RedMercury> use dpkg?
• 794[06:26:29] <pacha> dada78641: sudo dpkg -i /where/the/file/is/atom.deb
• 795[06:26:51] <dada78641> I see, thanks. Is there a UI only way to do it or just terminal?
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• 798[06:28:14] <pacha> dada78641: UI means user interface, the terminal is a UI, what you mean is GUI
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• 805[06:31:28] <TomG2> there's gdebi
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• 811[06:33:49] <RedMercury> so I have just upgraded to stretch, got kdm installed, etc
• 812[06:33:59] <RedMercury> and now on the login screen my enter key doesn't appear to do anything
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• 999[08:59:17] <nine_milli> HOLLLER
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• 1002[09:05:14] <Daku123> helooo
• 1003[09:05:19] <Daku123> I use KDE into virtual machine and KDE slow work.
• 1004[09:05:23] <Daku123> Need to disable compositing? And how?
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• 1017[09:22:35] <k3rn3lwalk3r> best files recovery software for debian
• 1018[09:22:43] <k3rn3lwalk3r> *what is
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• 1039[09:44:27] <pie3> anyone using tor?
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• 1065[10:03:38] <k3rn3lwalk3r> pie3 ya
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• 1069[10:05:12] <pie3> i have tor installed; i dont know how to use it; can someone explain me from scrarch; steps?
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• 1072[10:05:55] <k3rn3lwalk3r> you have installed tor browser?
• 1073[10:06:10] <k3rn3lwalk3r> or just tor proxy?
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• 1075[10:06:42] <pie3> i dont know but i guess tor is installed in my linux
• 1076[10:06:46] <k3rn3lwalk3r> download tor browser from here
• 1077[10:06:47] <k3rn3lwalk3r> replaced-url
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• 1081[10:08:20] <k3rn3lwalk3r> replaced-url
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• 1093[10:18:02] <pragomer_1> what (meta-)package to install to get a minimal kde-desktop?
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• 1105[10:22:58] <pie3> that link didnt oppen k3rn3lwalk3r
• 1106[10:23:45] <jelly> pie3: it only works when you have tor running
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• 1108[10:26:16] <jelly> pie3: you can append .to to the hostname to browse it through a proxy. It seems to be somewhat shady.
• 1109[10:27:25] <jelly> k3rn3lwalk3r: note that freenode disallows any sort of illegal activity, pointing to a site that has ads for stoled credit cards and paypal accounts may not be the best idea
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• 1111[10:29:09] <jelly> pie3: I wouldn't browse these kinds of sites from any system I use daily; set up a second computer if you need this
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• 1113[10:31:25] <pie3> what such sites contain?
• 1114[10:31:28] <pie3> jelly:
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• 1125[10:39:57] <jelly> !ask
• 1126[10:39:57] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 1184[11:00:25] <ewpolly1> Is there a way to pass arguments to a shell specified using chsh? I would like to tell tmux to attach, but I can't see any way to do this
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• 1190[11:04:40] <jelly> ewpolly1: no. When you log in, the only argument your login shell gets is -l
• 1191[11:05:31] <ewpolly1> Ok, thanks. Is there a way that I can set tmux to attach by default?
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• 1195[11:05:50] <ewpolly1> Or should I ask in #tmux?
• 1196[11:05:58] <jelly> maybe you could explain your goal, like "I want to automatically restore my tmux session when I log in, if I'm not logged iu from anywhere else"
• 1197[11:06:48] <ewpolly1> Basically, I want to automatically restore my tmux session every time I log in. I always connect through SSH
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• 1199[11:07:13] <ewpolly1> But I don't log in from more than one place at a time
• 1200[11:07:19] <jelly> that can probably be done with a clever check in your login shell's rc files (that get run every time you log in)
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• 1205[11:08:38] <jelly> so if you have eg. /bin/bash as your login shell, you'd probably put such a check near the end of ~/.bash_profile
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• 1209[11:09:49] <ewpolly1> I tried that, but then I had the problem of when I closed tmux I got left in zsh, so I need to find a way to disconnect after I close tmux, because I'd rather reduce the amount of times I type disconnect
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• 1211[11:09:54] <jelly> it would have to verify these things: "is this a login shell", "is there a detached tmux session still alive", before reattaching it
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• 1213[11:10:38] <jelly> ewpolly1: you can "exec command..." in a shell to replace the shell process completely with this new command
• 1214[11:11:00] <ewpolly1> Ok, that sounds good, I'll give that a go. Thanks for the help!
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• 1216[11:11:26] <jelly> and you would very much want to avoid running this for other, non-login shells, including those started inside tmux ;-)
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• 1219[11:12:18] <ewpolly1> I'll make sure that I only run it when $TMUX doesn't exist
• 1220[11:12:25] <jelly> and you'd probably want to check if it's an interactive shell. I guess zsh manual or #zsh can help there
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• 1224[11:15:17] <vadimkolchev> hi all. what is the recommended way to upgrade to next major release? When stretch is out should I just update mirror list or backup and clean install is recommended?
• 1225[11:16:02] <ewpolly1> Alright, I'll run tmux from .zprofile, that should work
• 1226[11:16:13] <jelly> ewpolly1: also, ^D on a clear shell line is an equivalent to typing "exit" or "logout"
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• 1229[11:17:30] <jelly> vadimkolchev: at release time, debian publishes Release Notes and they contain instructions to do an in-place release upgrade from the previous release.
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• 1231[11:17:55] <vadimkolchev> jelly, ah okay, great, thank you
• 1232[11:18:07] <jelly> vadimkolchev: these also list major known incompatibilities and things to care about
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• 1234[11:18:31] <vadimkolchev> jelly, great. Debian does awesome job
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• 1259[11:39:23] <pie3> i often came across need of download from various websites(videos/documents/softwares etc..) how to download in linux?
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• 1266[11:42:50] <sh00p> pie3 wat?
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• 1272[11:43:41] <daku123> ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
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• 1275[11:44:07] <daku123> help please
• 1276[11:44:15] <daku123> kvm bug: ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
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• 1279[11:48:09] <daku123> kvm bug: ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
• 1280[11:48:20] <pie3> i want to download udemy videos sh00p
• 1281[11:49:01] <sh00p> oh ok pie3, you want to webrip
• 1282[11:49:29] <pie3> which tools are available; i am new to linux. sh00p
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• 1285[11:49:49] <sh00p> i have never tried it myself but google webrip and linux
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• 1287[11:50:55] <vadimkolchev> strangely my usb sound device doesn't work on debian 8 stable fresh install. Everything unmuted and correct device detected and chosen. What else to look at?
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• 1290[11:52:07] <vadimkolchev> kmix shows my device, however I installed pavucontrol and it doesn't, which is strange
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• 1297[11:55:45] <daku123> where all?
• 1298[11:55:47] <daku123> kvm bug: ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
• 1299[11:55:48] <daku123> kvm bug: ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
• 1300[11:55:59] <teraflops> daku123: huh?
• 1301[11:57:25] <teraflops> dpkg: tell daku123 about errors
• 1302[11:57:36] <teraflops> hmm
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• 1308[12:01:09] <IRC-Source_8686> hi guys, I'm trying to update flashplayer like it's written in the wiki (replaced-url
• 1309[12:01:45] <teraflops> imho the proper way is not using it ^
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• 1312[12:02:29] <IRC-Source_8686> :)
• 1313[12:02:58] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: how to playback flash then?
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• 1315[12:04:13] <teraflops> not meant to start a flame or whatever, do you really need flash for video playing streams?
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• 1317[12:04:51] <at0m> teraflops: some websites like our national TV only provide video as flash. srsly.
• 1318[12:05:08] <teraflops> at0m: that's sad
• 1319[12:05:10] <at0m> i know
• 1320[12:05:17] <daku123> kvm bug: ram attribute only supported for type of qxl
• 1321[12:05:30] <IRC-Source_8686> I have a site that needs flash to playback video so that's the only way I could think of to playback the video
• 1322[12:05:44] <at0m> teraflops: i emailed them, they went "we're obliged as to our internal TOS"
• 1323[12:05:50] <teraflops> at0m: but maybe IRC-Source_8686 can play whatever ey need using a saner method they werent aware of
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• 1327[12:06:39] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: youtube-dl supports a gazillion sites, tried it?
• 1328[12:07:04] <IRC-Source_8686> nope, gonna take a look at it
• 1329[12:07:26] <teraflops> at0m: IPTV from my isp needed silverlight…
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• 1332[12:09:21] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: can't find it in apt-cache. dl
• 1333[12:09:30] <IRC-Source_8686> Do I have to build it myself?
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• 1335[12:10:18] <IRC-Source_8686> ohh it's just a python script?
• 1336[12:10:23] <teraflops> yep
• 1337[12:10:45] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: if youre in jessie version from repos is quite old
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• 1341[12:11:46] <teraflops> ,v youtube-dl
• 1342[12:11:47] <judd> Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie: 2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2017.05.18.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 2017.05.18.1-1; stretch: 2017.05.18.1-1
• 1343[12:13:25] <daku123> replaced-url
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• 1345[12:13:38] <teraflops> daku123: what's going on?
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• 1347[12:13:58] <daku123> bug
• 1348[12:14:06] <teraflops> you want us to fix a redhat bug for you¿
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• 1351[12:14:17] <daku123> yes
• 1352[12:14:20] <daku123> how to?
• 1353[12:14:26] <teraflops> good luck…
• 1354[12:14:34] <daku123> why?
• 1355[12:14:40] <daku123> there source
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• 1358[12:15:34] <teraflops> go fix yourself then
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• 1360[12:15:50] <daku123> noob
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• 1362[12:16:39] <teraflops> daku123: pasting nonsense messages and random links every minute wont help you, most likely the other way around
• 1363[12:16:43] <teraflops> or that
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• 1367[12:17:37] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: hey nice one, just did ./youtube-dl -g and got the url from the video and played it back using vlc. Well if that works on all sites I visit that would be awesome.
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• 1369[12:18:07] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: glad to hear that, it has a huge list of supported sites
• 1370[12:18:25] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: are you in jessie?
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• 1372[12:18:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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• 1374[12:19:06] <GG_Phyduck_Sleep> Morning
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• 1376[12:20:19] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: jep, on jessie ( just doing vlc "$(./youtube-dl -g MYSITE)"& and it works, that's how it should work :) )
• 1377[12:20:33] <BluesKaj> hi GG_Phyduck
• 1378[12:20:48] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: mpv has a youtubedl hook, and latest vlc versions has something similar
• 1379[12:21:16] <teraflops> have^
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• 1383[12:24:17] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: I think you can install the jessie-backport one, not sure if mpv version will be able to mpv "url" but it's worth a try
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• 1400[12:31:01] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: what would be the advantage of using mpv instead of vlc+youtube-dl? (I'm about to add an alias for vlc "$(./youtube-dl -g MYSITE)"& )
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• 1403[12:32:18] <teraflops> it handles youtube-dl for you internally
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• 1405[12:32:27] <teraflops> you just do mpv "url"
• 1406[12:33:22] <kai_w> I'm having trouble with a machine not booting - grub + btrfs. It came up fine a few months ago, but went down due to OOM a few days ago and not booting since
• 1407[12:33:45] <kai_w> Booting from a LiveCD shows all disks are OK and they mount fine, but grub says 'no such device (UUID here)'
• 1408[12:33:47] <IRC-Source_8686> besides that? (I mean my bash alias would do the same)
• 1409[12:34:06] <kai_w> And 'unknown filesystem' when trying ls at grub-rescue prompt
• 1410[12:34:10] <teraflops> IRC-Source_8686: you can use whatever suits you best
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• 1412[12:34:25] <kai_w> have tried reinstalling grub-pc, btrfs-progs and linux-image-amd64
• 1413[12:34:32] <kai_w> (from chroot)
• 1414[12:34:46] <kai_w> any ideas?
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• 1416[12:35:28] <IRC-Source_8686> teraflops: just wondering if it's worth the effort to install mpv when I already have vlc and youtube-dl :)
• 1417[12:36:26] <jolt> Hur kan man inte ha user encryption ovanpå sin passwordmolntjänst?
• 1418[12:36:33] <jolt> oops, sorry
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• 1420[12:37:42] <GG_Phyduck> Could i aswk a question? is there a mailing list i can subscribe to with important security notifications?
• 1421[12:38:02] <GG_Phyduck> i run a vps with debian and i want to keep that up to date and secure
• 1422[12:38:49] <GG_Phyduck> ( by the way i know security updates are not the only thing i need to do to keep that vps secure but i digress )
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• 1428[12:41:45] <jelly> GG_Phyduck: yes,
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• 1430[12:41:56] <jelly> !dsa
• 1431[12:41:57] <dpkg> [dsa] Debian Security Announcement, see replaced-url
• 1432[12:42:08] <IRC-Source_8686> here is my alias in case s.o. needs one: replaced-url
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• 1434[12:42:36] <IRC-Source_8686> just replace PATH_TO_YOUTUBEDL with the path to youtube-dl
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• 1437[12:44:16] <IRC-Source_8686> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it just failed on my second site
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• 1439[12:45:05] <IRC-Source_8686> damn ERROR: Unsupported URL:
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• 1472[13:09:02] <JaveT> hello
• 1473[13:09:18] <JaveT> do we have wheel group in debian?
• 1474[13:09:39] <JaveT> to give normal user root abilities?
• 1475[13:09:52] <nkuttler> !wheel
• 1476[13:09:52] <dpkg> methinks wheel is the traditional name of security group 0 in BSD (from slang for "big wheel" as a powerful person). This group is irrelevant in the default Debian configs but you can use the "sudo" group to give users the ability to run commands as root through sudo; ask me about <sudoers>. Alternatively, look at the pam_wheel module for <PAM> which will only allow su to root from members of the wheel group.
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• 1488[13:15:16] <wyre> hi guys! I've got hard freezes in debian stretch
• 1489[13:15:17] <wyre> maybe should I add any parameter to the kernel?
• 1490[13:17:36] <koollman> first you probably need to know how/why the hard freezes happen
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• 1492[13:17:50] <wyre> koollman, and how can I figure out about?
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• 1494[13:18:29] <JyZyXEL> how do i list all non-free packages in my system?
• 1495[13:19:29] <BluesKaj> wyre, check /var/log/syslog for errors
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• 1500[13:20:44] <wyre> BluesKaj, do you see any strange thing? replaced-url
• 1501[13:21:00] <kai_w> hmm - reinstalled various other grub components (pc-bin and the like) and it seems to have come back to life.
• 1502[13:21:14] <wyre> BluesKaj, because this is about this boot
• 1503[13:21:22] <wyre> the freezes was another day
• 1504[13:22:08] <wyre> maybe journald is not setup to persist
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• 1506[13:22:46] <BluesKaj> wyre, then look at /var/log/history
• 1507[13:23:26] <BluesKaj> wyre, seems you have xorg/graphics problems
• 1508[13:23:44] <wyre> BluesKaj, history doesn't exist
• 1509[13:24:00] <wyre> and ... apparently no I haven't
• 1510[13:24:03] <BluesKaj> look in /var/log then
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• 1512[13:24:37] <wyre> BluesKaj, maybe kern.log.1?
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• 1515[13:25:48] <BluesKaj> wyre, syslog 1,2.3 etc
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• 1526[13:31:14] <wyre> I think this is the most relevant log replaced-url
• 1527[13:31:34] <wyre> if anyone could help me to figure out what's causing the freezes I will appreciate it :D
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• 1552[13:43:47] <GG_Phyduck> jelly: Thanks for that link! i will subscribe to that :)
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• 1595[14:13:33] <noob123> Hey, I am new to Debian and was wondering how I would go about installing this: replaced-url
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• 1606[14:17:13] <spacebug^> noob123: apt-get update && apt-get install i3
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• 1611[14:19:26] <noob123> spacebug^ I know update will update list of packages, but how did you know to put apt-get install i3 ?
• 1612[14:19:53] <dvs> noob123, man apt-get
• 1613[14:19:55] <vadimkolchev> noob123, you can search for exact names using apt-cache search command
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• 1618[14:20:58] <at0m> ,v i3
• 1619[14:20:58] <judd> Package: i3 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.2-2; wheezy-backports: 4.8-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.8-2; jessie-backports: 4.13-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.13-1; sid: 4.13-1
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• 1623[14:21:56] <noob123> vadimkolchev Didn't really understand that sorry. Most tutorials already give you the packages to download (which is probably dangerous as it could be anything). How does using apt-cache help me find the correct name, also is there not a way of looking on the website replaced-url
• 1624[14:22:17] <at0m> noob123: if you need to ask "howto install $package", i suggest you do not run experimental/sid
• 1625[14:22:18] <Lowl3v3l> noob123: do you understand what apt-cache search does?
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• 1627[14:23:01] <spacebug^> noob123: the webpage says "Package: i3" that is the name of the package
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• 1630[14:24:02] <vadimkolchev> noob123, you can use apt-cache search with needed search pattern to find out if needed package is in repos. As obviously you currently lack knowledge about how debian package management works, I would not recommend you to install debs that are 3rd party and not in repos
• 1631[14:24:22] <noob123> at0m I want to stick with stable, but what is "sid"?
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• 1633[14:24:39] <noob123> spacebug^ I don't see that anywhere, I see i3 but how would I know it's package name? Layout is confusing.
• 1634[14:25:04] <noob123> Lowl3v3l I guess you look through a list of packages for a string that sort of matches what you want?
• 1635[14:25:07] <vadimkolchev> noob123, use synaptic then
• 1636[14:25:24] <vadimkolchev> noob123, apt-get install synaptic . It is gui package management tool
• 1637[14:26:01] <Lowl3v3l> or you do it the modern way and just use apt install / apt search ( you should generally not use the old tools anymore and i suppose the new apt is in stable as well)
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• 1642[14:26:41] <noob123> vadimkolchev I just searched apt-cache wine but it said invalid operation, it can't find WINE :-/. Was just an experiment don't need WINE
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• 1644[14:26:58] <Lowl3v3l> noob123: try : "apt search wine".
• 1645[14:27:03] <noob123> vadimkolchev I want to avoid GUI stuff I just stopped using Mint and Ubuntu.
• 1646[14:27:04] <vadimkolchev> noob123, incorrect syntax. should be apt search wine
• 1647[14:27:05] <Lowl3v3l> without the ticks of course
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• 1649[14:27:34] <noob123> vadimkolchev I will install synaptic but want to get good at command line stuff.
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• 1652[14:28:02] <noob123> Turns out I already had synaptic.
• 1653[14:28:05] <Lowl3v3l> noob123: then meet your new best friend, the manpage
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• 1655[14:28:16] <Lowl3v3l> noob123: try "man apt". it will teach you lots of stuff
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• 1662[14:29:02] <noob123> Lowl3v3l Touche
• 1663[14:29:15] <noob123> Sorry for the questions guys.
• 1664[14:29:50] <Lowl3v3l> noob123: as long as you actually want to learn its fine. I just want to teach you how to answer questions yourself, thats a really important skill
• 1665[14:30:17] <noob123> Lowl3v3l I kind of already knew, I just got lazy today o.O whoops.
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• 1676[14:38:11] <noob123> The part I don't get (my final question) is apt search i3 displays the following: replaced-url
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• 1679[14:40:17] <spacebug^> noob123: in this case, you see that the package i3 is a meta package. That is a package that installs a group of packages.
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• 1681[14:40:50] <spacebug^> Also if you read the line under that the package name, it tells you what it is. i3/stable,now 4.8-2 amd64 [installed] metapackage (i3 window manager, screen locker, menu, statusbar)
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• 1689[14:44:38] <noob123> spacebug^ Understood thanks.
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• 1727[15:13:29] <Nyanpo> help
• 1728[15:13:38] <Nyanpo> I am too stupid to find the debian public key so I can verify the ISO
• 1729[15:13:41] <Nyanpo> what do
• 1730[15:13:49] <Nyanpo> I tried google but couldn't find it
• 1731[15:13:58] <Nyanpo> my friend who probably has it is unavailable too
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• 1768[15:22:01] <AlexPortable> Can I somehow limit users network access?
• 1769[15:22:04] <vadimkolchev> flashplugin-nonfree not available anymore? the package cannot download data from adobe. Obviously needs fix?
• 1770[15:22:21] <vadimkolchev> replaced-url
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• 1774[15:23:39] <RedMercury> Started using debian last night, very very impressed
• 1775[15:23:47] <RedMercury> I should have moved from Ubuntu a long time ago!
• 1776[15:24:03] <luis30> im having issues with ubuntu..is debian a lot less buggy?
• 1777[15:24:05] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, why?)
• 1778[15:24:48] <vadimkolchev> luis30, depending on what issues you have. It is better to solve issues with distro than start distro-hopping)
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• 1780[15:25:11] <RedMercury> stupid stuff like software center in ubuntu would get wedged
• 1781[15:25:27] <RedMercury> debian also feels faster? certainly appears to boot faster
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• 1784[15:26:02] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, yep, Ubuntu has its own desktop for the time being that is more consuming and some own apps
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• 1787[15:27:20] <RedMercury> vadimkolchev: I just got steam running under debian and it appears to be running much more smoothly than ubuntu
• 1788[15:27:31] <RedMercury> I'd get so much hitching in TF2 and Portal
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• 1790[15:28:19] <RedMercury> also, the upgrade process from jesse to stretch was pretty painless :)
• 1791[15:28:28] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, I think in general steam might work better with Ubuntu with some games, as it was tested on Ubuntu, afaik. Probably Debian (if we speak stable) doesn't have the latest and greatest libs needed for some games, but I may be mistaken.
• 1792[15:28:35] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, ah, so you use testing
• 1793[15:28:51] <RedMercury> sure, but it gets released in what, 3 days?
• 1794[15:28:56] <RedMercury> sounds pretty locked down to me
• 1795[15:29:00] <AlexPortable> 2 weeks
• 1796[15:29:08] <RedMercury> i stand corrected
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• 1798[15:29:29] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, yep, but still may miss some security updates, if you care about them)
• 1799[15:29:55] <RedMercury> I IRC as root
• 1800[15:30:08] <RedMercury> live life on the edge
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• 1802[15:30:22] <vadimkolchev> RedMercury, why not unstable then?))
• 1803[15:30:26] <at0m> RedMercury: your ident says otherwise
• 1804[15:30:38] <RedMercury> at0m: its a joke man :)
• 1805[15:30:56] <at0m> eheh
• 1806[15:32:12] <AlexPortable> What is the gnats user / program for?
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• 1810[15:33:31] <at0m> AlexPortable: apart from the apt show gnats "problem report management system - central database
• 1811[15:33:34] <at0m> GNATS is a bug-tracking tool designed for use at a central "Support
• 1812[15:33:34] <at0m> Site" ?
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• 1814[15:34:22] <RedMercury> oh, so stretch is frozen then
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• 1817[15:34:27] <RedMercury> you're as good as done :op
• 1818[15:34:40] <at0m> it isn't, i'm still getting daily updates
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• 1821[15:35:17] <at0m> not sure if these are just security updates.
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• 1823[15:36:44] <vadimkolchev> So, guys, anyone can advise how to install flashplugin-nonfree properly? or no-one uses this crap?)
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• 1826[15:37:19] <AlexPortable> at0m: well is that central support site something on my computer?
• 1827[15:37:21] <AlexPortable> like a logfile
• 1828[15:37:26] <AlexPortable> or an external server
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• 1831[15:38:25] <AlexPortable> How do I enable / disable a service on boot?
• 1832[15:38:39] <vadimkolchev> AlexPortable, are you using systemd?
• 1833[15:38:44] <AlexPortable> yes
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• 1835[15:39:14] <vadimkolchev> AlexPortable, systemctl enable nameofservice.service
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• 1837[15:39:32] <AlexPortable> is the .service requierd?
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• 1840[15:39:44] <vadimkolchev> AlexPortable, yes
• 1841[15:39:58] <vadimkolchev> AlexPortable, just substitute nameofservice with service you want to enable
• 1842[15:40:14] <vadimkolchev> AlexPortable, it will create needed symlinks for your service to start on boot
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• 1851[15:46:01] <AlexPortable> thanks
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• 1862[15:50:04] <AlexPortable> so how about gnats, do i need it?
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• 1877[15:58:10] <RalphBa> hi all. maybe here. following situation: ubuntu stretch server, already running archlinux systemd container, trying to port an ubuntu server 16.04 setup to another container. main problem is, that dns resolving isn't working (archlinux container out of the box) (ip itself is working, can ping 8.8.8.8)
• 1878[15:58:23] <RalphBa> debian stratch server
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• 1885[16:03:21] <glick> whats a good tool to convert an html page to a inteligently printable pdf file?
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• 1888[16:04:30] <Rochvellon> hi, I'm trying to install debian on my WD MyCloud. How can i connect to it with telnet? Do I have to use USB?
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• 1925[16:31:05] <AlexPortable> should i start ssh.service or sshd.service for ssh server?
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• 1951[16:44:10] <_orion_> hello, I am trying to modify and compile a kernel; where is the original kernel config file stored on my debian system ?
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• 1957[16:46:06] <_orion_> nvm, found it: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64
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• 1971[16:57:36] <MaxLanar> Hello, a relative of mine don't have access anymore to his graphical session on his debian box. I managed to figure out that the folder /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ is 4 GB and contain almost 300 files. Which seems definitely not normal (on my box there's0 files in there). 3 questions : 1/Can I delete thoses files 2/ Why there's so many (heavy files) there ? 2a/ How to prevent them to appear again ?
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• 1975[16:59:09] <MaxLanar> he's on 8.8
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• 1997[17:15:02] <mernilio> Hi all! I have a valid question. Hold on.
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• 2003[17:17:22] <mernilio> To put it short, how do i remove a driver, so that it douesnt tries get loaded at boot time?
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• 2005[17:19:26] <mernilio> Background is: I had the right driver, but it contained drivers for several chipsets, so when i boot it takes forever to pass the boot prosess.
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• 2007[17:20:31] <mernilio> Rumour is you debians is fast for good answers, outherwise i must say different on my blog on the darknet.... :-)
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• 2010[17:22:07] <mernilio> Meanwile: I have installed Remixos yesterday, an Android emulator on the PC. I was glad i managed it, but what can you do with it?
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• 2022[17:30:59] <_orion_> I am trying to tweak a kernel, if I install it (sudo dpkg -i new_kernel.deb) will it replace my existing one, or will there be a new entry in grub to boot it ?
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• 2034[17:41:08] <BluesKaj> _orion_, there should be a new entry ..older kernels are usually removed either by the kernel upgrades or by the user
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• 2040[17:42:35] <_orion_> BluesKaj, ok thanks
• 2041[17:43:28] <_orion_> BluesKaj, will I need to run os-prober or something ?
• 2042[17:43:35] <_orion_> so that grub is updated ?
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• 2044[17:44:00] <BluesKaj> yes
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• 2046[17:44:11] <_orion_> ok
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• 2050[17:45:43] <_orion_> apparently dpkg did it itself
• 2051[17:45:51] <_orion_> still ran os-prober to be sure
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• 2054[17:46:13] <BluesKaj> never hurts to update grub :-)
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• 2056[17:47:08] <BluesKaj> os-prober isn't necessary
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• 2310[20:13:51] * jubo2 declares another "We greater than three Debian"-day
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• 2313[20:14:10] <jubo2> eikuperklele s/greater/less/
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• 2350[20:29:59] <md5hash> hi
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• 2356[20:31:46] <md5hash> hello
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• 2372[20:33:09] <md5hash> hello, I have a raspberry pi
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• 2379[20:36:14] <RalphBa> can someone help me by figuring out why my lxc container do not even get an ip with shorewall on? (configured it, but something has to be missing)
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• 2389[20:39:43] <RalphBa> everything to above question I thought of
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• 2426[21:03:55] <rocketmagnet> hi all
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• 2428[21:04:11] <rocketmagnet> how can i see which one of my soundcards is the default one ??
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• 2433[21:05:48] <bipul> I am unable to login into iSCSI target , following is the log replaced-url
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• 2461[21:27:30] <TomG2> rocketmagnet, try running alsamixer or alsamixergui
• 2462[21:27:43] <TomG2> i only know ALSA, no pulseaudio sorry
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• 2495[21:45:31] <BlackBishop> any easy way to trace pppd ? ( on a pppoe-server )
• 2496[21:45:35] <BlackBishop> debug doesn't help much
• 2497[21:45:53] <BlackBishop> it dies after the chap response with a signal 11
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• 2502[21:49:32] <BlackBishop> it goes something like this: replaced-url
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• 2541[22:14:34] <sIRwa3> hi, from debina wiki: when i do this like written: systemctl edit transmission-daemon.service i get Unknown operation 'edit'.
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• 2543[22:15:04] <jelly> ouch, which debian release is that BlackBishop?
• 2544[22:15:29] <sIRwa3> how does one "open" this?
• 2545[22:16:06] <BlackBishop> jelly: don't swear at me .. stretch .. I thought I'd skip a beat on working in the next few weeks
• 2546[22:16:22] <BlackBishop> BUT .. I'll try jessie too
• 2547[22:16:37] <Igel> afternoon
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• 2549[22:17:10] <Igel> i'm trying a simple command but its giving an error: sudo ip l2tp add tunnel tunnel_id 1000 peer_tunnel_id 2000 encap udp local 1.1.1.2 remote 2.2.2.2 udp_sport 6000 udp_dport 5000
• 2550[22:17:20] <Igel> -> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
• 2551[22:17:45] <Igel> (i've tried public/private ip addresses, no change)
• 2552[22:17:51] <jelly> no reason to swear
• 2553[22:18:01] <Igel> and i've done a # modprob l2tp_eth
• 2554[22:18:26] <BlackBishop> jelly: well .. I thought somebody will say it's not stable yet or something
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• 2556[22:18:46] <BlackBishop> anyhow, I can try jessie out if that'll help ..
• 2557[22:19:02] <jelly> it's not that far from stable, either, have you checked bug reports for pppd
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• 2559[22:19:24] <jelly> sorry, ppp
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• 2562[22:19:32] <Igel> hrm... for x in $(find /lib/modules/ -type f | grep l2tp | cut -d/ -f 8- | cut -d. -f1); do echo $x; sudo modprobe $x ; done
• 2563[22:20:00] <Igel> still.. any ideas?
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• 2565[22:20:41] <jelly> Igel, maybe it's normal? Find a channel that knows about how l2tp works on linux? ##netfilter maybe?
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• 2567[22:20:58] <Igel> yeah i think it may be normal.. i'll check the right channel
• 2568[22:21:03] <Igel> or may be even #iproute2 ? hmm
• 2569[22:21:05] <Igel> cheers
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• 2579[22:23:58] <Resilience> hello to everyone, usermod is the standard command for changing user accounts behaviour in debian? or is there any other command as in the useradd/adduser and userdel/delsuer pairs?
• 2580[22:24:15] <nine_milli> now ya gotta fight mutha fuka!
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• 2594[22:32:21] <fooman2011> 011> Hello. I have a strange problem. This command curl -X POST -H'SOAPACTION: "urn:blabla:service:foofoo"' -d "@test.xml" replaced-url
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• 2641[23:04:50] <CeBe> hi, replaced-url
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• 2649[23:09:15] <d9867eb> hello, I have a server and I need user services there. but I try to enable them it says XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set
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• 2659[23:15:14] <CeBe> d9867eb: what is "user services"?
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• 2662[23:16:00] <d9867eb> CeBe: systemd user services
• 2663[23:16:40] <d9867eb> CeBe: sorry, i should have written that
• 2664[23:17:14] <CeBe> its okay, people familar with it would have probably know what it is. can not help you with that, sorry :)
• 2665[23:17:55] <d9867eb> CeBe: ok thanks anyway
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• 2675[23:22:51] <jasonwc> I installed a fresh install of Debian Stretch several days ago on my desktop. I am seeing a delay of about 30 seconds during startup during which time the following message is displayed, "Begin: Running /scripts/local/block . . . done." I have been unable to find any clear explanation for this message. The message starts at around 4.43 seconds and end at 30.83 seconds when the SPL and ZFS modules are loaded (I am using ZFS as the root fs).
• 2676[23:22:51] <jasonwc> dmesg doesn't show these messages but they are visible during boot. Here's dmesg: replaced-url
• 2677[23:23:53] <d9867eb> jasonwc:not so many people here right now
• 2678[23:24:14] <d9867eb> jasonwc: I cant help you, sorry
• 2679[23:24:53] <jasonwc> np
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• 2687[23:28:38] <ChmEarl> jasonwc, message is coming from scripts & hooks here: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks ../scripts
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• 2690[23:29:25] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: I have a server and I need user services there. but I try to enable them it says XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set. can you help me?
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• 2693[23:30:21] <ChmEarl> d9867eb, never seen that. I'd have to google it
• 2694[23:30:27] <totallyscrewed21> ./e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
• 2695[23:30:31] <totallyscrewed21> oh boy im in trouble
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• 2699[23:30:59] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: systemd user sessions
• 2700[23:31:40] <totallyscrewed21> everytime i boot up and fsck -fy /dev/sda1 it fails
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• 2702[23:31:50] <jasonwc> ChmEarl, Thanks, I found the script that is responsible for the message
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• 2704[23:32:16] <casperoudaki> Kalhspera:) An 8es mpes kai sto c h a t replaced-url
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• 2708[23:34:03] <ChmEarl> d9867eb,replaced-url
• 2709[23:34:04] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 2713[23:36:40] <d9867eb> judd: thanks, but what should I do?
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• 2716[23:37:13] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: thanks
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• 2720[23:37:57] <ChmEarl> d9867eb, libpam-systemd is installed? your systemd version is 228+?
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• 2722[23:38:52] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: I have libpam-systemd installed
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• 2726[23:39:56] <EndCiv> After a fresh install, upon loading the GUI i suppose, I loose the screen to a colorful/green mess of screen garbage.. There does not appear to be mouse activity back behind it.. I am assuming its an incompatable VGA screen resolution.. sound about right and what can i do from shell to alter it? -thx
• 2727[23:39:58] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: I have systemd 232-23 installed
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• 2733[23:42:08] <ChmEarl> man pam_systemd
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• 2738[23:44:34] <totallyscrewed21> replaced-url
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• 2741[23:46:51] <totallyscrewed21> man im so screwed i bet the hdd is corrupt
• 2742[23:47:28] <totallyscrewed21> Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
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• 2746[23:50:46] <d9867eb> ChmEarl: I did not find anything that I beleive could be related to my problem in the man page
• 2747[23:50:58] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: out of everything there the Current_Pending_Sector_Count is telling you that you need to run a long offline test
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• 2749[23:51:28] <totallyscrewed21> smartctl -t long /dev/sda1 ?
• 2750[23:51:38] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: nb; be prepared for the disk to just choke and die; you have 4688 sectors that need to be remapped, you may not have enough reserved to remap them into.
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• 2752[23:51:58] <totallyscrewed21> that's alright thankfully you at least know what's going on
• 2753[23:52:03] <totallyscrewed21> that beats absolute uncertainty
• 2754[23:52:04] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: yes, that; it'll take a while...
• 2755[23:52:20] <totallyscrewed21> (90% remaining),
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• 2757[23:52:21] <totallyscrewed21> ouch
• 2758[23:52:44] <totallyscrewed21> when it's done where does the test save to?
• 2759[23:52:59] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: also you should consider running smartd and getting it to do regular (weekly) short tests
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• 2761[23:53:19] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: the error log section
• 2762[23:53:25] <totallyscrewed21> if i can some how remap the bad sectors i'll do a backup and junk the drive
• 2763[23:53:36] <totallyscrewed21> this is horrible
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• 2768[23:56:10] <totallyscrewed21> xingu: how can i try to remap the 4688 sectors?
• 2769[23:56:32] <totallyscrewed21> fsck -fy /dev/sda1 fails
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• 2773[23:57:12] <xingu> totallyscrewed21: itll happen automatically durin offline test
• 2774[23:57:31] <totallyscrewed21> ah
• 2775[23:57:53] <totallyscrewed21> i don't see this ending well lol
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• 2778[23:58:26] <totallyscrewed21> i don't have any sort of progress bar unless i type the same command again
• 2779[23:58:50] <glick> i found a bug!
• 2780[23:58:51] <totallyscrewed21> if i type ps -ef | grep fsck i can see that it's still running though so i guess that suffices
• 2781[23:58:52] <glick> in mate
• 2782[23:58:56] <glick> a big one bro
• 2783[23:59:14] <glick> in stretch
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• 2786[23:59:22] <glick> where should i file it
• 2787[23:59:27] <totallyscrewed21> #mate right?
• 2788[23:59:36] <glick> but first, can someone see if they have it too
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