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13 [00:05:25] <neglesaks> The standard ClamAV packages in the Debian distro /repos are unable to give me a functioning program - trying to download virus signatures just has it standing here for a minute, with the program eventually decalring that is has a total of 0 signatures. Scanning a dir gives an instant result of 0 files scanned. Any ideas on how to fix thius?
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15 [00:06:12] <alesan> missmbob, I have the sources and I am inside the "debian" directory where I can see the "rules" file you mentoined earlier
16 [00:06:18] <alesan> thanks missmbob
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22 [00:10:47] <simbalion`> June 17th!
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30 [00:16:52] <jasonwc> Last night, I upgraded my kernel from linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 to linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 and rebooted. After rebooting, I noticed two changes: 1) The "bonding" module was not loaded so my LACP bond interface wasn't brought up. 2) Despite having changed nothing related to my network configuration (static configuration with specified gateway of 192.168.1.1), my routing table no
31 [00:16:52] <jasonwc> longer contains a default route for IPV4. As a result, IPV4 network access is broken. Oddly, IPV6 was not impacted. The first issue is fixed by adding the module to /etc/modules and the second is fixed by adding a default route in rc.local. However, I was hoping someone might have some idea what could have caused this. I reported the issue as a kernel bug since it seemed to be the only
32 [00:16:52] <jasonwc> relevant change, but I'm now seeing the same behavior with prior kernels. I've seen other report the same issue as a result of a kernel update (replaced-url
33 [00:17:04] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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62 [00:34:40] <simbalion`> Is it possible to run PHP 5 under Stretch?
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99 [01:01:34] <somiaj> simbalion`: just run jessie if you want php5, with lts support it will be support for many years to come.
100 [01:01:51] <somiaj> simbalion`: you can install php5 in stretch locally if you like, but you have to manage all security updates and issues with it.
101 [01:02:00] <simbalion`> somiaj: thanks
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123 [01:19:36] <dka_> How can I write this bash line in sh : 'ssh-add <(echo "$SSH_PRIVATE_KEY")' ?
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128 [01:22:21] <jelly> dka_: you don't, use a temporary file
129 [01:23:43] <jelly> and use mktemp or tempfile to create a temporary file
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131 [01:24:08] <dka_> what about `echo $SSH_PRIVATE_KEY | ssh-add -` ?
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137 [01:28:58] <jelly> dka_: does ssh-add manual mention stdin or standard input at all?
138 [01:29:28] <dka_> I've just checked it's not
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143 [01:30:36] <dka_> jelly, what about
144 [01:30:38] <dka_> mkfifo tmpfifo && echo "$ssh_private_key" >tmpfifo && ssh-add tmpfifo && rm tmpfifo ?
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146 [01:30:53] <jelly> dunno, try it and see
147 [01:31:26] <toruvinn> wouldnt echo block until the other side opens the fifo?
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149 [01:32:29] <toruvinn> (so this will never end, basically)
150 [01:32:42] <dka_> :D
151 [01:32:42] <toruvinn> just send echo "..." > ... to the background
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153 [01:33:00] <dka_> how can i do that ?
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155 [01:33:11] <toruvinn> with & at the end of the command?
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157 [01:33:31] <tristero> echo "$ssh_private_key" is of course terribly insecure since it will show up in ps, etc.
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159 [01:34:03] <jelly> unless echo is a shell internal
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161 [01:34:38] <jelly> and iirc posix sh has echo
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164 [01:35:29] <toruvinn> mkfifo tmpfifo && ( echo asd > tmpfifo & ) && cat tmpfifo
165 [01:35:32] <toruvinn> seems to work..
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167 [01:36:00] <jelly> or just mkfifo tmpfifo && echo asd > tmpfifo & cat tmpfifo
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169 [01:36:19] <jelly> checking exit code is for wimps!
170 [01:36:28] * jelly hides
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174 [01:38:47] <Classsic> hi everybody :-)
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176 [01:39:28] <Classsic> is there a way to execute command ssh, and launch X-app on otro host?
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179 [01:39:45] <toruvinn> jelly, well if that for fails then you end up with a closed writing side of the fifo, so ssh-add fifo will block forever ;-)
180 [01:39:51] <Classsic> I suppose have to export $DISPLAY, but not sure....
181 [01:39:52] <toruvinn> s/for/fork/
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183 [01:40:11] <missmbob> Classsic: google x11 forwarding
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186 [01:41:04] <Classsic> nope
187 [01:41:13] <rudi_s> Classsic: And as X forwarding has quite a few (security) issues, have a look at xpra which is faster and more secure.
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189 [01:41:21] <Classsic> I want to launch gui app on remote host
190 [01:41:33] <Classsic> not X over ssh
191 [01:42:05] <rudi_s> Classsic: In a running session on that machine? Why would you want to do that if you can't see the windows.
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193 [01:42:50] <Classsic> yes, I can see it, but have not attach mouse and keyboard.
194 [01:43:12] <rudi_s> Ah, then login as the user and export DISPLAY=:0
195 [01:43:19] <rudi_s> And then run the program.
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197 [01:44:05] <rhizome> yay, repos fixed
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200 [01:46:40] <Classsic> yes, but how I wake up screen?
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202 [01:47:17] <Classsic> I don't want search and attach keyboard...
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207 [01:50:28] <Classsic> the answer is ----->"xset -d :0 dpms force o"
208 [01:50:35] <Classsic> the answer is ----->"xset -d :0 dpms force on/offf"
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215 [01:58:56] <screwdriver> Hello
216 [01:59:02] <screwdriver> any ops here?
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221 [02:00:29] <screwdriver> I AM THE SCREWDRIVER
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223 [02:00:36] <screwdriver> I SCREW EVERYTHING
224 [02:01:06] <mutante> that's a cocktail
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232 [02:02:43] <rhizome> also a tool of some kind. handyman friend once told me about them.
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234 [02:04:58] <screwdriver> emerson is a screw
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240 [02:07:47] <Classsic> somebody know how works embebed system? I need do something like DVR, but for x86 systems.
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277 [02:27:42] <argo456> Where to get Debian Mini but not netinstall?
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308 [02:46:05] <kfogel> Is there some automated ownership-reverter process nowadays? I have a directory /home/deploy, owned by user 'deploy', and in it is a subtree 'mediawiki-1.28.2/'. I keep doing "chown -R replaced-url
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310 [02:46:35] <kfogel> Oh, this might be appropriate for #debian-next -- I'll go there.
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324 [02:53:13] <sonnie> hi there. I mount a webdav location to local directory and play 1080p video over internet. It takes over 1 minute to open the video window (command is mplayer). davfs2 version 1.5.4-2+b1, server: apache 2.4.6/centos
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366 [03:27:03] *** themill changes topic to 'Debian Stretch ETA 2017-06-17; /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg jessie->stretch; /msg dpkg install stretch | Stable: Debian Jessie /msg dpkg jessie ; /msg dpkg 8.8 ; /msg dpkg install jessie ; /msg dpkg install stretch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog'
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368 [03:27:18] <themill> (topicdiff: planned stretch release date)
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413 [04:02:37] <nine_milli> winston_obrien: are you from 1984?
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417 [04:03:29] <winston_obrien> yes, minitrue.
418 [04:05:26] <r00st3r> How does ogg vorbis 112 kbps compare to which mp3 bitrate?
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478 [04:41:05] <GabrielC> yo, bazhang muted me for asking questions such as: how to install the same packages that ubuntu-mate installs by installing ubunut-mate, I am sorry to ask this question here, but i got muted from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-mate does not have so many people in it, also be careful when bazhang is around, he might mute you permanently if you don't bow your head and says sorry.. apt remove --purge bazhang
479 [04:41:22] <GabrielC> now, how do i do it on a offline system
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485 [04:43:19] <nine_milli> lol that bazhang idiot an op in #ubuntu?
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533 [05:15:35] <GabrielC> does anyone have logs of this channel?
534 [05:16:18] <GabrielC> i want to know which nickname asked if it was possible to donate with bitcoins here, it happened in this month
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541 [05:22:16] <GabrielC> do anyone have logs ?
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543 [05:25:22] <toruvinn> gimme a sec
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545 [05:25:28] <GabrielC> thx
546 [05:25:41] <GabrielC> search keys: btc, bitcoin, donat
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548 [05:30:48] <GabrielC> this is what you get on #ubuntu-ops replaced-url
549 [05:30:53] <GabrielC> bad people
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552 [05:34:06] <DonaldTrumpFool> #debian --> /list
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578 [05:46:36] <GabrielC> i have a illness, what so ever, and i have to take one or more days off now because of bazhang's behavior or at least what bazhang and what bazhang lead me to affected me. I don't expect bazhang to change, feel sorry or anything. I just wanted to tell you that bazhang and #ubuntu-ops acts have increased my social anxiety. if you have social anxiety or just anxiety or what ever is worse then that, don't talk to bazhang or
579 [05:46:36] <GabrielC> #ubuntu-ops without the fear of it increasing. peace!
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595 [05:56:21] <GabrielC> documentation: replaced-url
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598 [05:58:51] <lendo> less talk and install debian
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612 [06:12:23] <Classsic_> hi, is possible boot kernel without bootloader?
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616 [06:15:57] <lendo> Classsic_: replaced-url
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628 [06:34:34] <indorro> hi
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630 [06:34:54] <indorro> Hot to add steps to debian installer?
631 [06:37:12] <indorro> How to add steps to debian installer?
632 [06:37:13] <indorro> How to add steps to debian installer?
633 [06:38:01] <raddog> step one spam questions -- complete
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635 [06:38:42] <raddog> step two download the source for the installer add whatever you like and use it
636 [06:39:17] <jmcnaught> indorro: what step are you trying to add?
637 [06:39:44] <indorro> any
638 [06:39:51] <indorro> and script
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642 [06:40:58] <jmcnaught> indorro: replaced-url
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645 [06:41:54] <indorro> what is it?
646 [06:42:26] <indorro> no
647 [06:42:30] <indorro> I need to fix image
648 [06:43:49] <jmcnaught> if you have a specific problem you're trying to solve then perhaps you could share that with us. The installer can run a custom command or script. You may also be interested in extending the installer with udeb packages, but that's all I can give you with such a vague question
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653 [06:45:22] <indorro> i want to add post install script
654 [06:45:30] <indorro> how to do this?
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656 [06:46:20] <jmcnaught> indorro: the answers are in the install manual, the link i provided above cover that exact feature as part of a broader chapter on automation. Good luck ☺
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662 [06:53:33] <indorro> Where is the answer to my question?
663 [06:53:40] <indorro> replaced-url
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666 [06:54:50] <jmcnaught> indorro: "B.5.2 Running custom commands during the installation" is what i linked above.
667 [06:55:29] <indorro> B.5.1. Running custom commands during the installation
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669 [06:56:12] <jmcnaught> oh good you found it
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674 [07:00:26] <indorro> d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install zsh; in-target chsh -s /bin/zsh
675 [07:00:43] <indorro> and?
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679 [07:02:51] <indorro> this string what is it?
680 [07:03:02] <indorro> what is "chsh"?
681 [07:03:14] <indorro> what is "-s"?
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685 [07:05:45] <jmcnaught> in the above example the late_command that is run installs the zsh package, and then uses the "in-target" command to run a command in the installation target (as opposed to the installer environment). The command it runs, chsh, changes the default shell to be zsh (see "man chsh")
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777 [09:00:22] <Phrk_> Hello, i made a mess in my upgrade to Strecht, what is the default strecht kernel ?
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779 [09:00:44] <olivetree_> 4.9
780 [09:00:58] <Phrk_> ye but there is 2 4.9
781 [09:01:03] <Phrk_> the bpo one
782 [09:01:20] <Phrk_> and the 4.9.0-3
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785 [09:04:10] <Phrk_> ah maybe bpo means backport ?
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788 [09:05:36] <Phrk_> yes founded, i taught apt-cache is apt repo but no, it's also installed package from previous installation
789 [09:05:38] <Phrk_> well nvm
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792 [09:09:35] <olivetree_> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Debian 9.0 • CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor L310 (1.20GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.5 GiB Total (1.8 GiB Free) Swap: 3.8 GiB Total (3.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 740.1 GB / 906.9 GB (166.9 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge • Uptime: 11m 40s
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795 [09:11:19] <Phrk_> Athlon ? wow
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811 [09:30:21] <Olufunmilayo> hey guys, just wondering if anyone has encountered this. Host OS debian 8, virtual box VM win 8.1 with the guest additions installed. So when you RDP from a windows box into the debian box via XRDP (sesman-XVNC) everything is fine but when you start the win 8.1 VM the VM just crashes
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845 [09:57:42] <ddm1> How can i dualboot Debian and Windows 10 with automatic Partitioning?
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853 [09:59:56] <nem> Hmmm.
854 [10:00:10] <nem> Thats not even a question for this channel ddm1
855 [10:00:41] <ddm1> OK.
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860 [10:01:49] <nem> IM sure someone has an idea but I have not tried to dualboot since win10
861 [10:01:57] <nem> Dont need to. VM Vbox
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865 [10:07:41] <Guest50636> Kernel : crashes, panics, reboots hangs what is the difference ?
866 [10:07:54] <Guest50636> How to determine if cause is OS or application ?
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893 [10:22:49] <SwedeMike> /win 4
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898 [10:27:25] <pxfgod> pxf@aurogon02-PowerEdge-R410:~/game/pub$ sudo date -s 16:00
899 [10:27:26] <pxfgod> Sat 27 May 16:00:00 CST 2017
900 [10:27:26] <pxfgod> pxf@aurogon02-PowerEdge-R410:~/game/pub$ date
901 [10:27:26] <pxfgod> pxfgod: Sat 27 May 16:20:03 CST 2017
902 [10:27:26] <pxfgod> WHY the setting is invalid?
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911 [10:30:54] <pxfgod> hi , paste.debian.net/945052, WHY my setting systime is invalid?
912 [10:31:23] <nix64bit> How do I setup locales on debian8?
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914 [10:32:25] <Guest50636> Kernel : crashes, panics, reboots hangs what is the difference ?
915 [10:32:30] <zykotick9> !locales
916 [10:32:30] <dpkg> Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. replaced-url
917 [10:32:36] <zykotick9> nix64bit: ^
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919 [10:33:32] <Guest50636> How to determine if cause crash, hang is on OS or application side ?
920 [10:33:38] <nix64bit> thanks
921 [10:34:44] <nix64bit> !locales
922 [10:34:45] <dpkg> Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. replaced-url
923 [10:34:57] <nix64bit> thats helpful
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930 [10:37:28] <nix64bit> should I select "all" from locales? I probably only use one but dont want anything to break
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932 [10:38:45] <missmbob> no. that's useful for multi-user systems
933 [10:39:22] <nix64bit> oh dear well i did select all
934 [10:39:34] <missmbob> eh, nothing bad will come of it
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936 [10:39:52] <nix64bit> missmbob: thanks
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953 [10:45:38] <stephanie92> Question, am I able to make an .img cloning 1 partition or am i required to clone the entire disk (to perform a bit by bit backup)
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965 [10:52:14] <sbstn> you can just image the partition if you want to
966 [10:52:45] <sbstn> when restorin probably best if you make sure the partition you restore to matches the source (image) size exactly
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983 [10:57:40] <stephanie92> sbstn: ah good point... it's a 2tb drive, but the os (winlel) is on /dev/sdb1 which is 900GB and the remainder of the drive isn't being used or is even partitioned for that matter..
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987 [10:59:22] <sbstn> stephanie92: I think you can use clonezilla to make a clone of the partition without copying non-used disk space
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990 [11:00:30] <stephanie92> sbstn: hmm, okay thanks
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1008 [11:08:06] <xochilpili> hi all
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1028 [11:17:41] <xochilpili> i have installed debian, but when i try to install google-chrome i got an error for dependencies: libdbusmenu-glib4 (>= 0.4.2) (wont install), libdbusmenu-gtk4 (>= 0.4.2) wont install, libindicator7 (>= 0.4.90) wont install
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1030 [11:18:24] <jelly> xochilpili: which debian release do you have installed?
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1032 [11:18:34] <sbstn> chromium browser not an option? it would be in official repo
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1034 [11:18:38] <jelly> ,v libdbusmenu-glib4
1035 [11:18:39] <judd> Package: libdbusmenu-glib4 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.6.2-1; jessie: 12.10.2-1; sid: 12.10.2-2; stretch: 12.10.2-2; experimental: 16.04.1+17.04.20170109.1-3
1036 [11:18:46] <xochilpili> i have tried to install with apt-get install libdbusmenu-glib4, but keep saying about google-chrome and i cant install it
1037 [11:19:16] <xochilpili> jelly, thanks for answer, i have installed Debian GNU/Linux 8.8 (jessie) 8.8
1038 [11:19:37] <jelly> xochilpili: run "apt-get update" first if you haven't recently. Then follow this
1039 [11:19:45] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
1040 [11:19:45] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
1041 [11:19:59] <xochilpili> jelly, i did that, first boot, this is my first debian installation
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1047 [11:22:33] <xochilpili> this is a fresh debian install i have ran apt-get update,then i have downloaded deb package from google-chrome's webpage, then i did dpkg -i chrome...deb and i got a dependencies issue, but now everything i want to install or something i got this message: google-chrome-stable depends libappindicator1 but will not be installed, then i cant install anything
1048 [11:23:15] <rgr> Any links to "must dos" for Debian on a Laptop. I've installed Laptop mode and set the CPU governor and all the usual dpms timeouts for screen etc but my new T460 with an ssd and 16Gb of ram is getting less than half the uptime than when I boot windows. It's terrible.
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1052 [11:25:11] <jolt> rgr: Have you looked into tlp for power management?
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1054 [11:25:19] <jolt> There are a huge amounts of tweaks in there
1055 [11:25:25] <jolt> but the defaults are pretty good
1056 [11:26:49] <xochilpili> anyone?
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1059 [11:27:33] <xochilpili> replaced-url
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1061 [11:28:06] <jolt> xochilpili: Is this in jessie?
1062 [11:28:09] <sbstn> xochilpili: if you used dpkg -i, you didn't do any dependency search/install. Perhaps use tool like aptitude or synaptic to investigate?
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1065 [11:29:06] <nix64bit> xochilpili: have you done all the steps as in apt-get update / apt-get upgrade / apt-get dist-upgrade
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1069 [11:30:07] <xochilpili> nix64bit, i cant, because i always got "google-chrome-stable" depends of... and never continues, is there a apt-get clean?
1070 [11:30:21] <nix64bit> yes
1071 [11:31:13] <nix64bit> let me check
1072 [11:31:13] <xochilpili> nix64bit, i have ran apt-get clean, and then apt-get upgrade, but chrome still there
1073 [11:31:22] <sbstn> rgr: replaced-url
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1076 [11:32:06] <xochilpili> nix64bit, do i need to run apt-get -f install ?
1077 [11:32:09] <sbstn> xochilpili: tried "dpkg -r google-chrome"?
1078 [11:32:14] <nix64bit> apt-get autoremove
1079 [11:32:17] <rephlexie> xochilpili, what happens when you try and install libappindicator-dev?
1080 [11:32:47] <xochilpili> i got this "google-chrome-stable" depends of libappindicator1 try again with -f
1081 [11:32:52] <nix64bit> xochilpili: that will probably work by ignoring the issue
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1086 [11:33:37] <nix64bit> you could use firefox ;)
1087 [11:33:38] <xochilpili> nix64bit, again with apt-get autoremove i got the same output: google-chrome-stable : Depende: libappindicator1 pero no está instalado E: Dependencias incumplidas. Pruebe de nuevo utilizando -f.
1088 [11:33:56] <nix64bit> and with the f flag
1089 [11:34:07] <missmbob> ,v libappindicator1
1090 [11:34:07] <judd> Package: libappindicator1 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.92-2; jessie: 0.4.92-3.1; stretch: 0.4.92-4; sid: 0.4.92-4
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1092 [11:34:17] <missmbob> you should probably pastebin your sources.list
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1094 [11:34:25] <xochilpili> really ? i have been use Fedora since 2000 and this will never happen
1095 [11:34:49] <sbstn> xochilpili: why don't you remove the problematic package?
1096 [11:35:21] <missmbob> there must be bigger problems in sources.list
1097 [11:35:32] <xochilpili> replaced-url
1098 [11:35:38] <xochilpili> sources ^
1099 [11:36:05] <xochilpili> from /etc/apt/sources,list i dont know if this is the right file
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1101 [11:36:35] <xochilpili> deb replaced-url
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1106 [11:37:08] <missmbob> i'd delete it all and make it look like this
1107 [11:37:14] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
1108 [11:37:14] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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1110 [11:37:32] <missmbob> after main on each line, you should probably also include "contrib non-free"
1111 [11:37:38] <xochilpili> missmbob, all right! i just did: apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
1112 [11:38:26] <xochilpili> missmbob, just like that: contrib non-free?
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1114 [11:38:36] <missmbob> yes
1115 [11:38:41] <xochilpili> or deb "deb replaced-url
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1118 [11:39:14] <missmbob> deb replaced-url
1119 [11:39:24] <missmbob> you dropped the main. you need it
1120 [11:39:53] <xochilpili> all right!
1121 [11:40:01] <missmbob> then apt-get update
1122 [11:40:10] <sbstn> missmbob: why should one add non-free or contrib lines, not like he needs some non-free module is it?
1123 [11:40:35] <xochilpili> missmbob, now it looks like this: replaced-url
1124 [11:40:38] <missmbob> because he's new and will eventually run into problems with it that he probably wont know how to fix. it's not for now
1125 [11:40:59] <missmbob> xochilpili: link isnt working
1126 [11:41:15] <xochilpili> replaced-url
1127 [11:41:20] <sbstn> solving problems that don't exist, right
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1129 [11:41:33] <missmbob> that's what a good sysadmin does
1130 [11:41:37] <xochilpili> Duplicate sources.list entry replaced-url
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1133 [11:41:55] <missmbob> xochilpili: you can remove line 17
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1135 [11:42:04] <missmbob> then apt-get update again
1136 [11:42:40] <xochilpili> missmbob, ok, now no issues
1137 [11:42:53] <xochilpili> then apt-get upgrade?
1138 [11:42:55] <missmbob> xochilpili: now see if you can install that libappindicator thing
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1140 [11:43:15] <missmbob> xochilpili: sure you can upgrade
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1142 [11:43:52] <xochilpili> done: and apt-get dist-upgrade ??
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1144 [11:44:03] <missmbob> not necessary
1145 [11:44:09] <xochilpili> oks
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1147 [11:44:55] <xochilpili> still upgrade...
1148 [11:45:35] <xochilpili> apt-get install libappindicator1 << done
1149 [11:45:43] <xochilpili> now dpkg -i chrome ?
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1151 [11:45:47] <missmbob> sweet. yes
1152 [11:45:57] <missmbob> followed by apt-get -f install
1153 [11:46:14] <xochilpili> damn! all its done!
1154 [11:46:28] <missmbob> that's how it's supposed to go :)
1155 [11:46:44] <xochilpili> :D
1156 [11:46:50] <xochilpili> thanks!
1157 [11:47:02] <missmbob> np
1158 [11:47:26] <xochilpili> for example, i just used a livecd installation, but there's a openoffice and i will never use it, is it possible to apt-get remove openoffice* ??
1159 [11:47:43] <missmbob> sure
1160 [11:47:57] <xochilpili> is there something like : rpm -qa | grep openoffice in debian?
1161 [11:48:00] <missmbob> pay attention to what it wants to remove
1162 [11:48:49] <missmbob> i dont know what the hell that means. i havent touched rpm since before fedora existed
1163 [11:49:10] <xochilpili> Utilice «apt-get autoremove» para eliminarlos. << i got this one using : apt-get remove openoffice*
1164 [11:49:40] <missmbob> yeah you can autoremove. aggain, pay attention to what it wants to remove. make sure you agree
1165 [11:49:42] <xochilpili> rpm -qa | grep openoffice ; is something like query all rpm (installed) and grep all openoffice
1166 [11:50:07] <missmbob> xochilpili: to query installed you want dpkg -l 'openoffice*' |grep ^i
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1169 [11:51:07] <xochilpili> missmbob, all right; but also, when i did apt-get autoremove tries to remove libgnome2-0; i have installed debian mate, since i dislike gnome, is mate running with gnome?
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1171 [11:51:17] <xochilpili> or just with openoffice?
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1173 [11:51:35] <missmbob> xochilpili: yeah, mate uses a lot of gnome packages. you dont want to remove that one
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1175 [11:51:48] <missmbob> so apt install libgnome2-0 to make it as manually installed
1176 [11:51:53] <missmbob> mark*
1177 [11:52:03] <xochilpili> so i cant remove openoffice?
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1180 [11:52:47] <xochilpili> is there another desktop environment that dont use gnome? what desktop manager do u use?
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1182 [11:52:50] <missmbob> xochilpili: i dont have gnome or mate. i dont know what's causing that. try doing then individually from the dpkg -l command
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1185 [11:53:18] <xochilpili> missmbob, what desktop manager do u use?
1186 [11:53:20] <missmbob> i use xfce. it uses gtk but there's no gnome
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1189 [11:53:33] <xochilpili> all right!
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1191 [11:54:14] <nix64bit> missmbob: xfce great
1192 [11:54:42] <xochilpili> is it possible to install xfce and remove mate from a livecd (installed) with mate?
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1194 [11:54:54] <missmbob> yes
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1197 [11:55:22] <missmbob> i'm not exactly sure which packages you'd need to remove. i'm sure you can figure it out
1198 [11:55:31] <xochilpili> all right!
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1200 [11:55:39] <xochilpili> thanks a lot missmbob
1201 [11:55:45] <missmbob> you're welcome
1202 [11:55:45] <xochilpili> i will do my research
1203 [11:55:48] <xochilpili> :D
1204 [11:55:53] <xochilpili> have a nice day!
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1270 [12:33:41] <twisted> so, all of a sudden I decided to play video games in linux and now I need powerful video card, what should I buy Nvidia or Radeon ?
1271 [12:34:14] <SpeedyG> my personal favorite has always been nvidia, but that means my judgment is clouded ;)
1272 [12:34:52] <AimHere> I'm led to believe that newer Radeons are improving rapidly, but Nvidia proprietary drivers have always historically been beter
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1283 [12:53:17] <j0n3> I'm running Debian testing with Nvidia propietary drivers for a 980 GTX ti. Everytime a kernel update comes up it's a kind of pain because gnome stops working. The simplier way I found to fix this is to just go `init 2` and run `nvidia-installer --update` and come back with `init 5`. I think doing like this is the wrong way. Do you know the proper way to deal with kernel updates and nvidia driver? like using dkms or something else? Thanks!
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1286 [12:56:29] <IHATECANADIANS> Hello
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1288 [12:57:19] <teraflops> fucking trolls
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1291 [12:58:51] <helpImStuck> Is it recommended to disable ipv6 if i don't use any services or applications that uses that protocol?
1292 [12:58:57] <nix64bit> nobody hates canadians
1293 [12:59:02] <teraflops> helpImStuck: not at all
1294 [12:59:43] <helpImStuck> teraflops, why?
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1296 [13:00:15] <teraflops> because stuff may eventually get broken
1297 [13:00:17] <nix64bit> How can one actually get an addresable ipv6 address>
1298 [13:02:15] <helpImStuck> teraflops, You're right. Had to enable ipv6 again yesterday because some application did not start..
1299 [13:02:41] <helpImStuck> But I can block all ipv6 traffic without problem?
1300 [13:02:54] <helpImStuck> with some firewall script
1301 [13:03:08] <teraflops> nix64bit: ask your ISP, or use a tunnelbroker or use miredo
1302 [13:03:22] <twisted> helpImStuck: you may ask it in #ipv6
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1304 [13:04:20] <teraflops> helpImStuck: use ip6tables
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1310 [13:07:16] <helpImStuck> twisted, sure, i'll give it a try
1311 [13:07:21] <helpImStuck> teraflops, yes
1312 [13:07:38] <teraflops> ip6tables is iptables for ipv6…
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1347 [13:24:22] <Meerkat> Which device do I target when backing up a luks header? I cannot find an actual example online. All guides only say "/dev/<device>".
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1352 [13:26:40] <jelly> the one where you have luks?
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1355 [13:27:47] <frostschutz> Meerkat, when you lsblk, the parent device of the crypt device
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1358 [13:29:07] <frostschutz> Meerkat, you can check with cryptsetup luksDump if a given device has a luks header
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1365 [13:37:59] <Meerkat> "/dev/main-pc/root" Does that look like a luks device path? It's the only device that had information appear from luksDump and it doesn't seem to be duplicated due to my RAID-1 setup like sda/b and md0/1 are.
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1368 [13:41:08] <jelly> it might be. pastebin your lsblk output if unsure
1369 [13:41:28] <jelly> !paste
1370 [13:41:28] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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1373 [13:43:32] <Meerkat> It looks like the header here but with different values. So it should be the one. replaced-url
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1383 [13:51:28] <Meerkat> That outta be it. Thanks for the help! =)
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1387 [13:54:05] <Meerkat> Luckily I found out about having to backup this header before my main disks got their headers corrupted. It seems too late for my SSD which only gives a missing key error when I attempt to unlock it. Only a single text file had not yet been backed up from there, though.
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1397 [14:00:48] <frostschutz> header corruption is not supposed to happen in the first place. It's the same for filesystems and everything else, if you corrupt them in the wrong place, it's dead
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1401 [14:05:32] <Meerkat> I searched for the error I got when unlocking my SSD, "No key available with this passphrase." and I found some results about backing up the luks header. Why it won't unlock otherwise I can't figure out.
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1407 [14:09:50] <Urchin[emacs]> ok, how much sense upgrading from jessie to stretch right now makes?
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1466 [14:38:35] <oty_> why on the "man sh" there is not the "set -e" option documented anywhere ? It works thought.
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1469 [14:41:25] <prussian> uh I just did `man sh` and /-e and found it.
1470 [14:41:27] <prussian> ???
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1482 [14:49:12] <oty_> prussian, I didn't
1483 [14:49:50] <oty_> maybe it's only the french man outdated.
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1492 [14:57:27] <abrotman> maybe this depends on the symlink for /bin/sh ?
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1494 [14:58:06] <jelly> or symlink for sh.1.gz
1495 [14:58:23] <abrotman> well, yes, that also :)
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1511 [15:14:45] <Robby> with the debian 9 release announced, is it still possible to try and poke a package maintainer to get him/her to update one of the packages they maintain to the latest upstream version or is that too late now?
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1517 [15:17:04] <abrotman> update in what way?
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1519 [15:17:27] <Robby> simply update to the latest upstream version
1520 [15:18:05] <abrotman> stretch has been frozen since november
1521 [15:18:09] <abrotman> can't imagine that would get through
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1523 [15:18:17] <Robby> oh
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1526 [15:18:27] <Robby> welp.
1527 [15:18:29] <Robby> oh well
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1530 [15:20:52] <abrotman> Robby: you could help the maintainer get a backport ready potentially?
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1541 [15:25:34] <Robby> maybe, idk
1542 [15:27:00] <Robby> it would be nice though if Debian also incorporated this replaced-url
1543 [15:27:33] <Robby> that site allows for users to make changes to project URLs should they change, etc
1544 [15:27:42] <Robby> so package maintainers get notified of updates
1545 [15:27:51] <Robby> I know Debian has something called a watch file
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1547 [15:28:10] <Robby> but not really sure how it works
1548 [15:28:40] <Robby> and how easy it is for an end user to make changes
1549 [15:28:57] <Robby> and thus help the package maintainer stay up to date in away
1550 [15:29:02] <Robby> in a way*
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1555 [15:30:26] <Robby> because now with the current system I feel many package don't get the love and care they should because the monitoring/watch thingie may be out of date, missing, broken, etc
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1558 [15:33:05] <Robby> should I register on replaced-url
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1593 [15:58:22] <bipul> Any visual or diagrammatic tutorial for Linux Scheduler, where beginner can grasp basic concepts?
1594 [15:59:35] <JPT> I/O-Scheduler like in kernel internals or job scheduler like cronjobs/crontab?
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1596 [16:00:23] <bipul> Well, i am talking about SCHED_OTHER
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1598 [16:01:14] <JPT> Can you give me a little more context? :)
1599 [16:03:47] <JPT> oooh, thread scheduling. interesting.
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1603 [16:05:08] <JPT> I think this manpage describes the behaviour pretty good: replaced-url
1604 [16:05:51] <JPT> SCHED_OTHER seems to be the default approach in which the nice value (which indicates the priority of a thread) is used to determine when to run that thread next.
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1606 [16:06:31] <JPT> Since a thread can be in a state that is not runnable (e.g. waiting for data from disk/network or sleeping), other threads will be run instead.
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1609 [16:06:53] <DavidDuke> this is debians hidden service replaced-url
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1611 [16:07:04] <JPT> If there are lots of threads and less cpu thread available (that's quite normal), there is a chance that other threads are run instead of the one from your programm.
1612 [16:07:41] <JPT> To compensate this, the scheduler takes note of every time where a different thread was run despite your thread being ready/runnable, which dynamically increases its priority
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1627 [16:13:12] <Tebrut> Hello all
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1630 [16:14:06] <Tebrut> Quiet
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1632 [16:14:24] <Tebrut> So very quiet..
1633 [16:14:44] <JPT> You missed my talk about thread scheduling 5 minutes ago :D
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1637 [16:15:07] <Tebrut> Thread scheduling..
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1643 [16:18:10] <Tebrut> So where does one goto active chat
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1656 [16:22:42] <cDave> Hi, can anyone help with a mounting error? df is telling me a 2tb partion is only 2.3gb.
1657 [16:22:56] <nix64bit> I have just update to stretch from jessie, nearly done, what do i need to look out for?
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1659 [16:23:31] <helpImStuck> cDave, what does your fdisk -l say?
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1661 [16:23:40] <bipul> JPT, Sorry i went disconnected. I just wanted to know nice value , it's levels and permissions.
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1664 [16:24:25] <helpImStuck> cDave, about that specific disk, how many partitions and such
1665 [16:24:42] <nix64bit> readline: ~/.inputrc: line 1: editing: unknown variable name when I open a terminal
1666 [16:24:51] <bipul> So i thought i should give more emphasis on process scheduling.
1667 [16:25:10] <cDave> > df -h /dev/sdb1 2.3G 7.8M 2.2G 1% /mnt/ext4 > sudo parted -l Model: ST3000DM 001-1ER166 (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 3001GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 1 1049kB 2000GB 2000GB ext4 primary 2 2000GB 3001GB 1001GB primary
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1669 [16:25:31] <cDave> Copy paste fail.
1670 [16:25:38] <helpImStuck> :)
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1672 [16:26:16] <cDave> 1 1049kB 2000GB 2000GB ext4 primary
1673 [16:26:32] <cDave> /dev/sdb1 2.3G 7.8M 2.2G 1% /mnt/ext4
1674 [16:26:33] <JPT> bipul: That's fine. The nice value is basically a priority indicator. You can read 'man 2 nice' to get some details on that. It's basically a number that the scheduler uses to sort its process list before deciding what to run.
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1679 [16:27:23] <DavidDuke> Did you know that Debian project has a Tor hidden service? replaced-url
1680 [16:27:48] <bipul> cDave, You can do single snippet code to create a partition, echo -e \nn\np ...." | fdisk /dev/sdb
1681 [16:27:55] <JPT> DavidDuke: I don't know the name associated with that public key and unless you link a proper https website that links to that link i will not accept this statement.
1682 [16:28:02] <cDave> Thanks @bipul
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1685 [16:29:02] <DavidDuke> JPT: what name?
1686 [16:29:08] <cDave> fdisk won't work. over 2tb
1687 [16:29:11] <bipul> JPT, I am looking for any documentation that give visual or diagrammatic representation.
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1689 [16:30:18] <JPT> DavidDuke: That onion url is basically just the fingerprint of the public key of that tor service. But i need confirmation that the name of the service provider is actually the debian project. I cannot verify that.
1690 [16:30:48] <JPT> bipul: What kind of questions do you have that need visual answers?
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1692 [16:31:25] <bipul> Like how nice value works.
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1694 [16:31:36] <jelly> JPT: replaced-url
1695 [16:31:52] <JPT> bipul: It's a priority indicator. It's just a number. How would i visually represent this?
1696 [16:31:56] <JPT> jelly: Thanks :)
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1700 [16:32:46] <JPT> DavidDuke: Turns out that the onion url you announced seems to be an official debian service. :)
1701 [16:33:11] <bipul> I am asking any documentation if you have, then kindly share it
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1709 [16:37:03] <JPT> bipul: I dug around a bit - perhaps this may contain more information than you're looking for, but slide 17 of this slideshare [ replaced-url
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1713 [16:41:02] <cDave> @helpImstuck Help I'm stuck ;) Any ideas what the issue with df vrs parted sizes may be?
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1717 [16:42:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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1726 [16:46:23] <mernilio> Hi all! I have just discovered Elvis Presley. Are there any Elvis likers here? :-)
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1730 [16:48:11] <mernilio> Life is not only a matter of computers .. its also music! :-)
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1732 [16:49:19] <mernilio> I play guitar and have done so for a long time.
1733 [16:49:32] <missmbob> !chat
1734 [16:49:32] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
1735 [16:49:33] <zykotick9> mernilio: Elvis & music are both offtopic in #d try #debian-offtopic perhaps?
1736 [16:50:04] <mernilio> oki, thanks for re-direkting me! :-)
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1740 [16:51:01] <helpImStuck> cDave, not really, if you don't have any important data on the disk, use cfdisk to recreate the partition table and a partition then format it :)
1741 [16:51:09] <Tebrut> Is there a channel that is used where people are actively talking on?
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1744 [16:52:16] <cDave> Cheers, I'll give that a go.
1745 [16:52:21] <helpImStuck> cDave, is there a sdb2 or 3?
1746 [16:52:42] <helpImStuck> and*
1747 [16:52:56] <missmbob> Tebrut: #debian-offtopic
1748 [16:53:24] <cDave> replaced-url
1749 [16:53:44] <cDave> 2, no 3.
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1752 [16:54:22] <Tebrut> Ok
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1754 [16:56:09] <Tebrut> Thanks
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1757 [16:57:00] <helpImStuck> cDave, it looks like you have 2 partitions on sdb one is formatted and the other is not.. but the df -h output is weird. none of the partitions match the size
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1762 [16:59:15] <JPT> The only partition that i am concerned about is /dev/sdb1. It is partitioned for 2000GB, but the file system has a size of 2.2GB
1763 [17:00:04] <JPT> But it still looks okay, there don't seem to be any overlapping partitions
1764 [17:00:09] <cDave> helpImStuck: JPT: Found the answer. The formatting somehow got snagged on a old deleted partition. resize2fs /dev/sdb1 fixed it
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1773 [17:02:50] <helpImStuck> cDave, great :)
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1775 [17:03:12] <JPT> :)
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1778 [17:06:01] <helpImStuck> I made a vpn split
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1780 [17:07:04] <helpImStuck> one user on the system use vpn and the rest my regular connection.. and i need to open a port on the vpn for the torrents to be able to seed
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1786 [17:08:09] <helpImStuck> my debian and ubuntu torrents ,D
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1789 [17:08:39] <helpImStuck> sometimes they connect and can resolve the right hostname and sometimes they can't..
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1835 [17:31:01] <foobar_> hi
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1842 [17:34:18] <s00x> hey, how much swap space if I got 32GB RAM ?
1843 [17:34:30] <s00x> and if I'll got some (2-3) virtual machines running
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1847 [17:35:02] <jelly> s00x: not more than 1-2 GB, unless you have some specific workload that needs it
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1849 [17:35:21] <s00x> i heard that if swap should be the same as RAM or even doubled :o
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1851 [17:35:31] <jelly> yes, 20 years ago
1852 [17:35:57] <oerheks> for hybernate/sleep perhaps
1853 [17:36:15] <s00x> I wanna install rootfs on SSD and /home on HDD. I guess I should also put /swap on HDD ?
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1856 [17:37:51] <jelly> if your machine starts paging out (using swap), a 1-2GB writes to SSD before things stop working won't ruin it
1857 [17:38:28] <s00x> the problem is my limited space on ssd
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1859 [17:38:35] <s00x> i got only 40GB there
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1863 [17:39:27] <jelly> allocate 20GB for / then, leave the rest unallocated and hope this extra unused space prolongs the life of the ssd device
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1865 [17:39:48] <Tebrut> Shouldnt need that much
1866 [17:39:50] <jelly> assuming its full size is ~100-200GB
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1868 [17:40:06] <jelly> 10% extra for safety is nice
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1870 [17:40:52] <s00x> my problem is that i need dual boot, so i got 60gb for win and 40gb for debian
1871 [17:41:02] <s00x> then rest is divided on 1TB HDD
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1884 [17:45:04] <Tebrut> What you doing jelly
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1887 [17:46:18] <jelly> pointing offtopic chatter to #debian-offtopic?
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1901 [17:51:11] <s00x> does the partition order matter?
1902 [17:51:15] <s00x> in case of dual booting?
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1905 [17:51:45] <Hoolootwo> it shouldn't
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1907 [17:51:56] <Hoolootwo> I've never encountered a situation where it did
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1910 [17:52:11] <s00x> on my ssd it looks like that right now: <EFI><Windows/OS><Debian rootfs><Windows recovery partition>; HDD: <Free space for NTFS><Debian /home>
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1918 [17:56:17] <s00x> and the most important stuff, ain't /swap on ssd wear out my disc?
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1927 [17:58:37] <s00x> I will put /swap on hdd, i got too limited space
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1971 [18:23:04] <JyZyXEL> what's a good way of finding un-needed packages?
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1977 [18:24:17] <th0r> JyZyXEL, apt-get autoremove?
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1982 [18:27:30] <JyZyXEL> no i mean from all packages
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1989 [18:32:10] <missmbob> well dpkg -l |grep ^i will give you a list of installed packages that you can then decide if you want them or not
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1991 [18:32:49] <sixie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
1992 [18:32:49] <sixie> libpam-systemd : Depends: systemd (= 232-23)
1993 [18:32:50] <sixie> udev : Breaks: systemd (< 232-20)
1994 [18:32:50] <sixie> Breaks: systemd:i386 (< 232-20)
1995 [18:32:50] <sixie> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
1996 [18:32:50] *** sixie was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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2001 [18:34:12] <somiaj> !bat
2002 [18:34:12] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2003 [18:34:15] <somiaj> sixie: ^^
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2005 [18:34:30] <missmbob> sounds like you need to apt updatae && apt upgrade
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2013 [18:38:05] <sixie> dpkg replaced-url
2014 [18:38:05] <dpkg> sixie: i haven't a clue
2015 [18:38:27] <sixie> replaced-url
2016 [18:39:09] <missmbob> sixie: that's not debian
2017 [18:39:17] <missmbob> !parrot
2018 [18:39:17] <dpkg> Parrot OS (replaced-url
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2022 [18:40:25] <sixie> i know it isn't, i've been through google and forums and the parrot and parrotsec channels. i didn't ask for pigeonholing elitism i just asked how to resolve the issue
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2091 [19:20:45] <Zack_> How is everyone doing today?
2092 [19:21:14] <Tebrut> Good and you
2093 [19:21:22] <Zack_> not too bad
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2099 [19:22:47] <chaosfisch> Is the current debian stretch installer broken? I've tried netinst and dvd now. It fails to find the CD-ROM during installation.
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2102 [19:23:23] <chaosfisch> I'm also getting an error before that, firmware missing: ctefx.bin
2103 [19:23:33] <missmbob> how are you coping it to usb?
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2107 [19:24:28] <chaosfisch> missmbob: I used rufus, have no other linux system here right now, just windows.
2108 [19:24:34] <missmbob> that's why
2109 [19:24:36] <missmbob> !rufus
2110 [19:24:37] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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2112 [19:24:43] <missmbob> use win32diskimager
2113 [19:25:02] <chaosfisch> missmbob: ah okay, will try that
2114 [19:25:26] <Zack_> Haven't tried rufus yet but i heard bad things
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2116 [19:25:47] <chaosfisch> Zack_: it worked so far for everything, ubuntu, arch, debian stretch RC 3, etc.
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2119 [19:27:29] <Zack_> how do you like debian stretch?
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2126 [19:28:15] <BluesKaj> chaosfisch, try the non-gui installer..i had a similar problem, but the regular (text) instyaller worked just fine, another option is the netinstall image
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2128 [19:28:32] <jak2000> hi all how to install openssh??
2129 [19:28:34] <jak2000> server
2130 [19:28:41] <chaosfisch> Zack_: only have it on a server right now. For me, it isn't any different than previous debian versions. Though, net.ifnames change was quite unexpected, but good!
2131 [19:28:59] <chaosfisch> BluesKaj: I tried both, and for some reason both didnt work.
2132 [19:29:27] <missmbob> because rufus
2133 [19:29:57] <chaosfisch> missmbob: at least to what we know right now. Good, need to reboot, thanks.
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2135 [19:30:23] <strive> jak2000: You cold try: apt-get install openssh-server
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2137 [19:30:30] <strive> s/cold/could
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2141 [19:33:05] <Zack_> take it people dont use IRC much anymore??
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2143 [19:33:33] <missmbob> !chat
2144 [19:33:34] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
2145 [19:33:39] <missmbob> Zack_: ^
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2151 [19:36:04] <jak2000> when try isntall openssh-seerver i get this error: "openssh-server depends libwrap0" how to fix?
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2157 [19:37:39] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
2158 [19:37:39] <bizhat> root@debian:~# sudo -bash: sudo: command not found root@debian:~#
2159 [19:37:40] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
2160 [19:37:54] <bizhat> when i run sudo, i get command not found, any idea why ?
2161 [19:38:04] <missmbob> jak2000: make sure your sources.list looks like that ^ and delete any cdrom/dvd entries then apt-get update
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2163 [19:38:16] <missmbob> bizhat: it's not installed by default. apt install sudo
2164 [19:38:41] <jak2000> missmbob, i copies this sources list... (all other lines was commenteD)
2165 [19:38:45] <jak2000> same error
2166 [19:38:46] <bizhat> thanks, missmbob
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2168 [19:39:01] <bizhat> why dpkg -S sudo not showing it..
2169 [19:39:07] <missmbob> !bat
2170 [19:39:07] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2171 [19:39:21] <missmbob> bizhat: why would it? that's for installed packages
2172 [19:39:21] <bizhat> showing now..
2173 [19:39:42] <missmbob> jak2000: do bat ^
2174 [19:39:50] <bizhat> @missmbob how i find which package provides sudo, like yum whatprovides ?
2175 [19:40:04] <missmbob> apt search sudo
2176 [19:40:15] <bizhat> thanks
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2178 [19:41:20] <jak2000> missmbob: replaced-url
2179 [19:41:24] <jak2000> its ok?
2180 [19:41:44] <jmcnaught> jak2000: please don't use images for text…
2181 [19:42:04] <jak2000> jmcnaught cant connect to server....
2182 [19:42:05] <jak2000> :(
2183 [19:42:08] <jak2000> escuse me
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2185 [19:42:38] <missmbob> no wonder you cant download packages to install
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2187 [19:43:29] <jak2000> :(
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2189 [19:44:18] <jmcnaught> jak2000: did you run "apt update" after changing sources.list? What does "apt-cache policy openssh-server" say?
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2196 [19:45:48] <jak2000> yes
2197 [19:45:54] <jak2000> again rerun the
2198 [19:45:56] <jak2000> commands
2199 [19:46:15] <jak2000> mmmm..
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2208 [19:49:09] <yolan> Hello
2209 [19:49:24] <yolan> I need help to find the right command using fdupes
2210 [19:50:50] <yolan> I have two directories: [OLD] and [NOW], I need to find and delete all the files that are both present in this two folders, and delete the one in [old]
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2212 [19:51:10] <jak2000> <jmcnaught> jak2000: did you run "apt update" after changing sources.list? What does "apt-cache policy openssh-server" say? <----------------- no no run the commands
2213 [19:51:20] <jak2000> after this.. i can install openssh-server
2214 [19:51:23] <jak2000> :)
2215 [19:51:24] <yolan> I have no idea how to do that, I don't really understand how to choose wich folder have to keep the file.
2216 [19:51:24] <jak2000> thanks
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2220 [19:52:55] <jak2000> i am happy
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2235 [20:02:53] <jak2000> <jmcnaught> thanks
2236 [20:03:01] <jak2000> missmbob: thanks
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2240 [20:03:27] <missmbob> jak2000: np
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2257 [20:09:39] <nurupo> hey, sstmp is great
2258 [20:09:54] <nurupo> all it takes is just to install it and edit its config file, and you can get all system emails directed for users with uids < 1000 be sent to my-email@gmail.com, which is useful for receiving emails from cron, etc.
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2261 [20:11:12] <nurupo> it doesn't even have to always run, deamonized, taking the RAM on the system, like postfix, exim, sendmail, etc. do. it just runs when some service sends an email and immidiatly terminates
2262 [20:11:45] <jmcnaught> nurupo: msmtp-mta is another similar one. Personally I prefere to run Postfix on non-MTA systems as a null client:replaced-url
2263 [20:11:49] <nurupo> on a second thought, ssmtp is horribly broken
2264 [20:12:12] <Yojimbo> what do you guys use for virus scanning in debian? Is clamav still used?
2265 [20:12:35] <nurupo> it seems to expect all To: fields to be usernames, e.g. "root"
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2268 [20:13:37] <jmcnaught> "aptitude search ~Pmail-transport-agent" will show all of the MTA options in Debian
2269 [20:13:46] <jmcnaught> if you're looking for more alternatives
2270 [20:14:17] <nurupo> and if some service defaults to sending emails to "root@localhost", like fail2ban is, it will deduct that "root@localhost" user doesn't exist, thus it's not < 1000 uid, and will send the email to god knows where, without you ever seeing the contents of the email
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2272 [20:14:36] <nurupo> such garbage
2273 [20:14:47] <jmcnaught> nurupo: ssmtp might use a file like /etc/aliases
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2277 [20:15:53] <nurupo> now i either have to use something else instead ssmtp, postfix for example, or keep using ssmtp but make sure that every service i install uses "username" and not "username@localhost" or anything else for the sender
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2279 [20:17:25] <nurupo> jmcnaught: i'm installing postfi at this point
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2282 [20:17:59] <jmcnaught> nurupo: i won't argue agains Postfix, but i'm fairly sure that sstmp or msmtp-mta or both support something like /etc/aliases
2283 [20:18:26] <nurupo> very angry with ssmtp, it started so nice and innocent, but turned out to be an email dropping monster
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2285 [20:19:12] <nurupo> ssmtp doesn't support aliases
2286 [20:19:41] <jmcnaught> oh well
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2290 [20:20:00] <nurupo> >It does not do aliasing, which must be done either in the user agent or on the mailhub. Nor does it honor .forwards, which have to be done on the recieving host. It especially does not deliver to pipelines.
2291 [20:20:04] <nurupo> from the manpage
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2293 [20:20:23] <jmcnaught> the bigger problem that i have with non-daemon MTAs is how do they handle redelivery attempts?
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2295 [20:20:39] <jmcnaught> ahh.. it was probably msmtp-mta that i was using before i switched to postfix then
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2299 [20:22:28] <santaclauze> das
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2316 [20:38:13] <_rub1k> Hey guys. What is a way to test to see if my cron job is running?
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2324 [20:41:28] <mitki> I would set it for running every minute (* * * * *) and test it
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2351 [20:47:23] <_rub1k> mitki: I realize now that by saying (1 * * * * ) I was running it at the first minute of every hour. Not every minute
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2385 [21:18:07] <Azrael_-> hi
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2387 [21:18:46] <Azrael_-> habe noch ein schönes altes squeeze-system auf armel-architektur. gibt es hierfür die möglichkeit mediainfo zu installieren ohne ein upgrade durchzuführen?
2388 [21:19:02] <missmbob> !de
2389 [21:19:02] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
2390 [21:19:08] <Azrael_-> argh, sorry
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2459 [22:11:20] <sIRwa2> so, smb logs, are they enabled by default? can find them
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2461 [22:11:57] <missmbob> sIRwa2: i always find #samba to be better
2462 [22:12:30] <sIRwa2> tnx
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2468 [22:14:28] <dtux> i currently dont really take backups. i use syncthing to somewhat unify multiple devices; however, this doesnt allow, for example, restoring deleted files, etc. anyone got a good backup solution/strategy to recommend?
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2479 [22:17:33] <dtux> also, why can chromium load replaced-url
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2482 [22:18:40] <jelly> dtux: wfm on firefox 45.9esr
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2485 [22:19:08] <dtux> jelly: huh, that's what i have
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2487 [22:19:40] <dtux> i run with HTTPS Everywhere and Privacy Badger (extensions from EFF), but those (and more) are also present on chromium
2488 [22:19:49] <dtux> and disabling them doesnt seem to help
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2491 [22:20:40] <dtux> i actually have this problem quite a bit... it's a bummer firefox cant really seem to keep up
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2513 [22:30:44] <jmcnaught> dtux: try with a new firefox profile ("firefox-esr -no-remote -P", or as a different user). Also what error does Firefox get on that page?
2514 [22:31:31] <dtux> jmcnaught: no error, the page just never loads and eventually ff gives up
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2517 [22:32:02] <jmcnaught> firefox displays no error at all?
2518 [22:32:33] <jmcnaught> just a blank page?
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2521 [22:33:29] <jelly> (my firefox esr comes from mozilla, not debian, fwiw)
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2523 [22:34:05] <dtux> jmcnaught: correct (because im on the new tab page, otherwise it would just stay on the referer page)
2524 [22:34:10] <spacebug^> why is it that firefox in Debian is so much behind in version? Is it really that much new to go through between versions? Do we still get security updates in our version?
2525 [22:34:13] <dtux> jelly: ah, mine's the default from deb
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2527 [22:34:55] <jmcnaught> mine is firefox-esr from stretch, never had a problem loading the debian wiki
2528 [22:35:07] <jelly> !firefox esr
2529 [22:35:07] <dpkg> Iceweasel Extended Support Release, see replaced-url
2530 [22:35:20] <jelly> spacebug^: ^^
2531 [22:36:38] <spacebug^> thanks
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2545 [22:56:29] <dtux> i think it was an ipv6 issue, i unplugged my ethernet and put it back and the wiki loaded fine
2546 [22:56:53] <chaosfisch> missmbob: Hey, I asked for help earlier today. You guessed the problem was rufus. Well it was not. I had an ubuntu DVD in the dvd drive. The installer detected this as cdrom and simply ignored the correct usb drive. So, I'd personally call this a bug in the installer.
2547 [22:58:05] <jmcnaught> dtux: had firefox been getting server not found errors? i think firefox uses its own stub resolver
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2551 [23:01:17] <dtux> jmcnaught: im not sure. nothing showed up on the console
2552 [23:01:45] <jmcnaught> weird
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