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15 [00:06:28] <bherman> i lost one of my drives in a lvm+raid5 setup how do i reinstall grub
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17 [00:06:53] <alekz> a 2min google search will tell you bherman
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19 [00:07:27] <bherman> alexkz ive tried using update-grub grub-mkconfig and grub-install all dont seem to work in a chroot of the lvm partition
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21 [00:09:03] <bherman> im in the debian rescue environment and I am installing grub to all the drives
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25 [00:10:51] <bherman> that didn't work any other thoughts alekz?
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33 [00:12:45] <alekz> sorry mate, was grabbing some coffee
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35 [00:14:33] <alekz> are you working from a LiveCD?
36 [00:14:37] <bherman> yes
37 [00:15:00] <bherman> im trying now a reinstall of debian to a dirty drive
38 [00:15:12] <alekz> you don't have to reinstall the whole system
39 [00:15:21] <bherman> it didnt have much on there
40 [00:15:23] <alekz> mount the livecd
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42 [00:15:28] <bherman> just virutualbox
43 [00:15:40] <alekz> try mounting /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run
44 [00:16:00] <alekz> then chroot
45 [00:16:08] <bherman> ok ill try that
46 [00:16:14] <alekz> and grub2-install for every device in your array
47 [00:16:25] <alekz> grub2-install /dev/sda
48 [00:16:28] <alekz> grub2-install /dev/sdb , etc...
49 [00:16:31] <bherman> the rescue enviroment did that for me right?
50 [00:16:44] <bherman> i guess not because it didn't work right
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52 [00:17:12] <alekz> rescue environmente from live?
53 [00:17:17] <bherman> yes
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55 [00:17:31] <alekz> it won't mount anything
56 [00:17:38] <alekz> you have to do it manually
57 [00:17:53] <alekz> and after you install, you have to update GRUB's config
58 [00:17:57] <bherman> i think it changed there is this new menu that auto chroots and everything
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60 [00:18:24] <alekz> grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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62 [00:18:41] <alekz> Oh, haven't tried that
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64 [00:19:09] <alekz> check for the /boot/grub/
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66 [00:19:17] <alekz> don't remember is grub/ or grub2/
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69 [00:20:18] <Brigo> the installer has a rescue mode that makes all the mounts for you.
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71 [00:20:38] <alekz> there you go bherman
72 [00:20:39] <alekz> thanks Brigo
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74 [00:21:03] <alekz> then just check where are your devices mounted
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76 [00:21:53] <Brigo> alekz, np
77 [00:22:15] <bherman> yes i was using that before
78 [00:22:18] <bherman> hmm
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83 [00:24:02] <alekz> bherman: I would try a non-rescue environment and do everything manually
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85 [00:26:46] <yurb> on fedora, resolveip anything.localhost points to 127.0.0.1 - how to achieve the same behavior on debian?
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87 [00:27:18] <yurb> (without hard-coding in /etc/hosts)?
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99 [00:32:23] <syco_> systemd ?
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101 [00:33:45] <alekz> dnsmasq?
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103 [00:34:40] <yeehi> Save Internet Neutrality: Here is the link to the FCC, who are again requesting public comments on whether to weaken Net Neutrality: replaced-url
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111 [00:41:56] <ross`> deb replaced-url
112 [00:41:58] <ross`> OpenSSL 1.0.1t 3 May 2016
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114 [00:42:00] <ross`> can someone explain to me why my ssl version is so outdated
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116 [00:42:53] <missmbob> because stable means it doesnt update to new versions. security patchess are backported
117 [00:43:03] <missmbob> if you want, jessie-backports has 1.0.2k
118 [00:43:10] <ross`> what about 1.1
119 [00:43:19] <ross`> shouldn't that be version 1.1 something
120 [00:43:41] <missmbob> ,checkbackport openssl
121 [00:43:42] <judd> Backporting package openssl in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports.
122 [00:43:54] <missmbob> you can do ssb yourself
123 [00:43:57] <missmbob> !ssb
124 [00:43:58] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
125 [00:44:21] <ross`> sid is newer than jessie right
126 [00:44:36] <ross`> what should my sources.lst say if I want to dist upgrade to sid
127 [00:44:37] <missmbob> yes. has 1.1.0e-2
128 [00:44:44] <missmbob> dont upgrade to sid
129 [00:44:55] <missmbob> that's not what i said. read what the bot said
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131 [00:45:21] <alekz> haha
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133 [00:46:23] <ross`> @.@
134 [00:46:34] <ross`> I don't understand what the bot said..
135 [00:46:37] <ross`> That's what I have I think
136 [00:46:57] <missmbob> someone else can help you. i dont have time, sorry
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138 [00:47:14] <yeehi> State that you specifically support Strong Net Neutrality and Title 2 oversight of Internet Service Providers, and the reasons you support this (Liberty, for example).
139 [00:47:26] <ross`> sid sources
140 [00:47:35] <ross`> how do I get the bot to tell me what my sources.lst should be for upgrading to sit
141 [00:47:38] <ross`> sid
142 [00:47:41] <ross`> I already have backports and that's not helping
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144 [00:47:53] <missmbob> yeehi: go to #debian-offtopic if you want. and gofccyourself.com is a better link since it has the proceeding already picked
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146 [00:48:07] <missmbob> ross`: no one, not me, not the bot, said upgrade to sid
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148 [00:48:12] <ross`> I know, but that will work
149 [00:48:17] <ross`> My sid desktop has openssl 1.1 something
150 [00:48:27] <alekz> do you know what implies changing to SID?
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152 [00:48:38] <ross`> My laptop and desktop have sid
153 [00:48:42] <yeehi> missmob - thanks for that suggestion. I tried gofccyourself.com but the link no longer takes you directly to the page, in my experience
154 [00:48:42] <ross`> My server has jessie
155 [00:48:44] <missmbob> you're on your own. sid support is at #debian-next on oftc (not freenode)
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158 [00:49:06] <missmbob> yeehi: works here. just have to click on express and it's filled in
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162 [00:51:54] <ross`> The idea that debian doesn't have an openssl version compatible with apache seems ridiculous.
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164 [00:52:02] <ross`> #httpd says my openssl version is too old
165 [00:52:04] <ross`> @.@
166 [00:52:25] <missmbob> it's compatible with the version in debian. and you've been told how to get 1.1k on stable
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168 [00:52:38] <shazbotmcnasty> Helly. I'm using jessie, does anyone know how to add my monitors and their resolutions to xorg.conf.d? In say 10-monitor.conf or something?
169 [00:52:52] <ross`> missmbob: I don't understand that bot's instructions.
170 [00:53:20] <ross`> missmbob: what exactly is the deb-src line for sid that it's talking about?
171 [00:53:24] <ross`> I already have build-essential
172 [00:53:31] <ross`> how do I enable debian packports?
173 [00:53:36] <ross`> what does see <bdo> 3 mean>?!?
174 [00:53:44] <ross`> I have no idea what that bot is trying to tell me.
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176 [00:54:29] <missmbob> dpkg deb-src sid
177 [00:54:30] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src replaced-url
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181 [00:54:48] <ross`> okay, so is that what I need to do for the backports thing
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183 [00:54:51] <ross`> or how do I us eit.
184 [00:54:52] <ross`> use it
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186 [00:55:03] <ross`> Can you please just link me to a url I can fully read to understand what I have to do.
187 [00:55:06] <ross`> I'm not lazy.
188 [00:55:12] <ross`> I don't know what line I need to add to sources.lst
189 [00:55:24] <missmbob> the bot literally just told you
190 [00:55:35] <missmbob> deb-src replaced-url
191 [00:55:39] <missmbob> pay attention
192 [00:55:46] <missmbob> actually read, dont skim
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194 [00:56:05] <ross`> replaced-url
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197 [00:56:55] <ross`> okay, I added that line
198 [00:57:14] <alekz> .ignore ross` ALL
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200 [00:57:29] <MickyW> !make some coffee please
201 [00:57:35] <ross`> dpkg: debian-backports
202 [00:57:36] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
203 [00:57:41] <missmbob> do step 3 forward
204 [00:57:45] <missmbob> dont fucking do that
205 [00:57:51] <ross`> ?
206 [00:57:51] <missmbob> jesus. it's not in backports
207 [00:57:58] <ross`> I am so completely confused right now
208 [00:57:58] <missmbob> fuck man. do what we say
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210 [00:58:03] <ross`> I read what the bot said 7 times
211 [00:58:14] <missmbob> do step 3 forward in this:
212 [00:58:16] <alekz> missmbob: ignoring non-google users is sometimes better :P
213 [00:58:16] <missmbob> !ssb
214 [00:58:16] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
215 [00:58:39] <missmbob> if you actually READ that and do it, you'll be set
216 [00:59:04] <missmbob> 3 and forward
217 [00:59:09] <ross`> so to be clear is it saying I need to do apt build-dep openssl?
218 [00:59:23] <ross`> You seem to know how to understand what the bot is saying.
219 [00:59:27] <ross`> I am reading what the bot is saying, I am not skimming
220 [00:59:29] <missmbob> i'm saying you need to read. and that's what the bot is telling you to do, yes
221 [00:59:33] <ross`> oka
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224 [01:00:48] <ross`> missmbob: I'm sorry I don't understand the bot. I am not being lazy and skimming it though. I simply don't understand at all what it is saying for this part: enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3)
225 [01:01:03] <teraflops> alekz: hmm what's a non-google user?
226 [01:01:07] <ross`> I also didn't know what the exact line should be from reading this: Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!)
227 [01:01:09] <missmbob> dont worry about it. that's why i said 3 forward three times
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229 [01:01:28] <ross`> ahhh okay
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232 [01:02:38] <ross`> missmbob: replaced-url
233 [01:02:40] <ross`> how do I fix this
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235 [01:03:41] <ross`> Setting up debhelper (9.20150101+deb8u2) ...
236 [01:03:47] <ross`> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 10)
237 [01:03:49] <ross`> bleh
238 [01:03:55] <ross`> apt install debhelper installed too old a version
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242 [01:05:19] <mutante> ross`: that line does not seem to appear in the bot output ?
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244 [01:05:30] <ross`> apt-get -b source packagename
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246 [01:05:39] <ross`> It says taht right after aptitude build-dep packagename
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251 [01:08:23] <ross`> Was I NOT supposed to apt-get -b source openssl?
252 [01:08:25] <ross`> that's what the bot told me to do!
253 [01:08:38] <ross`> Atleast I am not the only person who has no idea what the bot is saying though, that makes me feel better
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256 [01:08:58] <ross`> But it still doesn't help me. I have errors and mismatched package versions
257 [01:09:52] <ross`> I added the deb-src line for sid, I did apt update, I did apt build-dep openssl.
258 [01:09:58] <ross`> Then it failed on apt-get -b source openssl
259 [01:10:07] <ross`> can someone please help me, why is my debhelper package not > 10
260 [01:10:30] <ross`> I already have build-essential so that's not the issue
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262 [01:10:39] <ross`> the error is here: replaced-url
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265 [01:12:18] <ross`> If I try to repeat those steps with debhelper it breaks also
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267 [01:13:25] <ross`> This is crazy, I can't get a single apt-get -b source foo to work!
268 [01:13:27] <ross`> They all fail!
269 [01:13:32] <shazbotmcnasty> Does anyone know about the "no devices to configure" issue when running "X -configure" ?
270 [01:13:49] <ross`> I don't see what I could have done to break anything
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274 [01:15:08] <ross`> Can someone help me clean my debian I guess? I am not sure what is wrong but something is seriously version mismatched and I don't know how
275 [01:15:12] <mutante> ross`: the issue here is the "gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found"
276 [01:15:18] <ross`> I want to make sure my sources.lst are right because I have no idea what they should be.
277 [01:15:24] <ross`> mutante: how do I fix that? Is that my fault?
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280 [01:15:42] <ross`> mutante: I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that debhelper is < 10
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282 [01:15:46] <ross`> .10
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286 [01:16:53] <ross`> I wish I knew what was wrong with my debian.
287 [01:16:58] <ross`> I don't think I did anything exotic..
288 [01:17:10] <ross`> I can't think of any commands I could have run that could have broken it.
289 [01:17:21] <ross`> And I'm no expert but I think I'd know.
290 [01:17:26] <ross`> All of the stuff I've done has been super basic
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293 [01:18:18] <mutante> ross`: the part that is definitely not super basic is that it's "sid"
294 [01:18:36] <ross`> mutante: I just want to know if the problem is me or someone else's script.
295 [01:18:37] <ross`> :(
296 [01:18:41] <mutante> ross`: i'd tell you if i knew about debhelper version but dunno
297 [01:18:42] <ross`> I followed the bots directions exactlyt
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310 [01:23:15] <dirac1> I mean..
311 [01:23:19] <dirac1> bye
312 [01:23:23] <teraflops> o/
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614 [04:16:26] <Guest60668> groot needs help
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618 [04:18:19] <Hoolootwo> what is the proper way to build an upstream kernel to a package?
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621 [04:19:57] <Guest60668> dam its quite in here
622 [04:20:01] <Hoolootwo> I'm doing make bindeb-pkg, and I'm getting a /DEBIAN folder in / and errors about multiarch
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629 [04:23:03] <somiaj> Hoolootwo: make deb-pkg
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631 [04:23:29] <somiaj> Hoolootwo: this is included in upstream kernels, afer you configure it with menuconfig, oldconfig, etc, that command will build and put the kernel into a package.
632 [04:23:45] <Hoolootwo> I'm doing make bindeb-pkg
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634 [04:24:13] <Hoolootwo> which should do the same thing , but without source, right?
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636 [04:24:45] <somiaj> oh, unsure on that. I haven't built my own kernel in quite a long time
637 [04:25:16] <somiaj> I only know of deb-pkg. It may build more packages, but you don't need to install them all. But if the bindeb-pkg target isn't working you may have something else going on.
638 [04:25:30] <somiaj> what build enviorment are you using? what arch? building in a clean chroot? etc?
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640 [04:25:57] <Hoolootwo> I'm building it on gentoo, from the same sources that work on that machine, which is a thing I need to test
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642 [04:26:12] <Hoolootwo> I'm trying to isolate variables here
643 [04:26:42] <Guest60668> how do you get kali on virtual box to pick up the wireless adapter? can not find any networks nor i cant get eth0 or lo up
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645 [04:26:50] <somiaj> !kali
646 [04:26:50] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
647 [04:27:31] <somiaj> Hoolootwo: this I'm unsure is even possible unless you build from inside a debian chroot. I don't know if/how the build tools for debian packages would work under a distro like gentoo.
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649 [04:28:10] <Hoolootwo> hmm, ok
650 [04:28:29] <Hoolootwo> I guess that's feasible that something isn't configured right
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691 [04:47:12] <Hoolootwo> is there a reason it's not?
692 [04:47:44] <Hoolootwo> also linux is amazingly quick to respond when it's sitting completely in RAM
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820 [06:05:18] <awal1> What can make dpkg/apt-get slow reading database?
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822 [06:05:53] <awal1> I only have a few wm's installed and a limited nº of software
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828 [06:07:32] <awal1> I noticed that "reading data base ... x nº of files or dirs installed! is much slower since a few months, with new apt versions, compared to jessie/wheezy
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832 [06:07:53] <awal1> well, I'm refering to my sid stretch machine
833 [06:08:10] <VentGrey> :-D Hello world
834 [06:08:20] <leaked-sex-tapes> replaced-url
835 [06:08:29] <somiaj> sid/stretch machine? you mean one that mixes both sid and stretch sources through pinning?
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838 [06:10:10] <TomG_> awal1, hi, you can try dpkg --clear-avail
839 [06:10:16] <TomG_> awal1, i think that'll do what you want
840 [06:10:20] <awal1> somiaj, no, just pointing to unstable (sid) ; I usually no mix branches; I mean I noticed the more delay since the development of stretch , before freezing
841 [06:10:27] <leaked-sex-tapes> replaced-url
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843 [06:10:42] <awal1> somiaj, kicj ^please :)
844 [06:10:46] <awal1> kick
845 [06:10:53] <Tsutsukakushi> why would anyone want to see kardashian sex tapes
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850 [06:11:01] <VentGrey> -.- we do not need sextapes
851 [06:11:01] <Tsutsukakushi> sounds disgusting
852 [06:11:11] <VentGrey> we have debian
853 [06:11:16] <Hoolootwo> surprisingly I only saw it here and on #freenode
854 [06:11:19] <VentGrey> it is like 8029 times better than sex
855 [06:11:22] <Tsutsukakushi> what will you do with your debian if not watch sextapes
856 [06:11:38] <somiaj> no need for additional noise
857 [06:11:48] <VentGrey> right, sorry :c
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862 [06:12:59] <awal1> TomG_, well, I have never used that dpkg option; I see it in man but I do't really understand in which context it applies :P
863 [06:13:25] <VentGrey> I never knew dpkg had that option
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868 [06:15:17] <TomG_> awal1, it's to do with what you were complaining about. dpkg taking a really long time even though you don't have a lot installed. if you run dpkg --clear-avail it will remove uninstalled packages (30000+) from its database, and afterwards go 50 times faster. why don't you try it?
869 [06:15:41] <TomG_> it just means that the packages won't show up in dselect unless you run a dselect update, but you probably don't use dselect anyway
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874 [06:17:18] <mrrhq> after apt-get update, won't that cache just get filled up with avaialble packages again?
875 [06:17:43] <awal1> TomG_, I never used dselect, maybe as many many debian users :D
876 [06:17:56] <mrrhq> I don't use it either, only apt.
877 [06:18:19] <awal1> TomG_, in fact my choice will depends on if I understand what " reading database..." does exactly
878 [06:18:42] <awal1> what is the point there durring upgrades/installs
879 [06:20:30] <TomG_> mrrhq, no, the dpkg available database is separate from the apt database :)
880 [06:20:37] <awal1> so when "reading database..." what dpkg does exactly? I thought it reads local installed pkgs+there files&dirs
881 [06:20:44] <TomG_> awal1, it reads a large database you can see for yourself in /var/lib/dpkg/available :)
882 [06:20:59] <awal1> TomG_, oh, ok
883 [06:21:02] <TomG_> and some of the other files there. if you run dpkg --clear-avail it will clear the available file and it will go faster
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886 [06:22:09] <awal1> what are the disadvantages doing that (--clear-avail) ?
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889 [06:22:57] <awal1> bcoz I asked not bcoz the "deading database..." delay others me, it was more for understand why the delay :P
890 [06:23:16] <awal1> bcoz I asked not bcoz the "reading database..." delay bothers me, it was more for understand why the delay :P
891 [06:26:45] <Rusty1_> how much delay is there?
892 [06:27:12] <TomG_> i already said the only disadvantage I am aware of, you don't get the package listing in dselect unless you run its update (and then you have to run dpkg --clear-avail all over again)
893 [06:27:49] <Hoolootwo> for me, depending on the computer, the delay can range from imperceptible to two minutes
894 [06:28:07] <awal1> maybe 10 to 20 seconds more than usual
895 [06:28:18] <awal1> TomG_, ok, I got it.
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898 [06:29:03] <TomG_> okay good :) for everyone
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902 [06:32:07] <VentGrey> Mmm weird, i am receiving MATE desktop updates o,0
903 [06:32:14] <VentGrey> aren't we frozen?
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905 [06:34:10] <awal1> VentGrey, if that is Stretch, maybe rc bugs fixed
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910 [06:37:54] <VentGrey> its 1.16.2, new ver apparently
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912 [06:38:04] <VentGrey> maybe critical bug fix?
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914 [06:38:59] <awal1> check pts and bts with the exact pkg name
915 [06:39:10] <VentGrey> let me see
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917 [06:39:16] <gry> can't you check? replaced-url
918 [06:39:22] <VentGrey> nono
919 [06:39:29] <VentGrey> not full mate
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921 [06:39:59] <VentGrey> There were some panel & control center updates yesterday and today there was one, i think it was the icon theme
922 [06:40:01] <gry> ok, check the right package, I'm being a bit dumb
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924 [06:40:18] <VentGrey> give me 2 secs
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927 [06:42:12] <VentGrey> The status of mate-panel source package in Debian's Testing distribution has changed
928 [06:42:30] <VentGrey> from 1.16.0-2 to 1.16.2-1
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931 [06:43:15] <tuxlog> #bananapi
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933 [06:43:36] <VentGrey> bananapi xD
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972 [07:19:39] <awal1> I forgot how to find the most oldest files in my system (almost in /) (because I'm trying to know the approximative date of first installation)
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1086 [08:47:14] <jer0me> good morning all, I am looking for some program / script to remove personal data from a text file (emails, addresses, zip codes, telephone numbers, names ...). I can do some with regexps, but there may be some better/existing tools for this.
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1090 [08:50:52] <Tykling> hello, I am trying to update a bios using replaced-url
1091 [08:51:08] <borsin> jer0me: you probably want grep or awk.
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1093 [08:51:32] <somiaj> jer0me: what sort of text files and what format is this personal data in it? I don't know of any prebuilt tools, you'll have to use a combination of regex and programing, can be done in various languages.
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1096 [08:54:58] <jer0me> borsin and somiaj : as of now, it is a libreoffice, unformatted, document, containing the concatenation of ~1000 emails body. I was looking for "battle tested" scripts, since writing regexps for faulty user input can be tedious.
1097 [08:55:11] <jer0me> bodies*
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1100 [08:57:10] <jer0me> nothing will be 100% efficient and the document should be proof read by humans, but there may exist some clever scripts. Will keep searching.
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1103 [08:59:40] <somiaj> being more specific like emails or just remove email address may find you better luck
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1105 [09:00:25] <somiaj> so maybe not one tool that is best for your case, but can maybe get some nice regex that work for more specific situations
1106 [09:00:32] <jer0me> maybe I'll just test some recipes from replaced-url
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1108 [09:00:50] <somiaj> replaced-url
1109 [09:00:56] <somiaj> for example there is a way to remove emails
1110 [09:00:58] <borsin> you may want grep -v or grep -E depending on what you're trying to do.
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1114 [09:02:44] <Antares> Parade Victory replaced-url
1115 [09:03:23] <jelly> Antares: #debian-offtopic, not here
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1122 [09:05:38] <Gregory321> hi all
1123 [09:05:51] <Gregory321> anybody from Poland
1124 [09:06:04] <Gregory321> :)
1125 [09:07:18] <jelly> !pl
1126 [09:07:18] <dpkg> Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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1128 [09:08:14] <Tykling> does anyone know a tool to resize a fat12 .img file, I need to fit some bios files inside the balder10.img image from grml
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1130 [09:08:34] <Gregory321> that no problem im anew user for linuic debian and ive got qwuestion about grub 2
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1133 [09:09:17] <Gregory321> im uisn a dvd installer and when im installing debian grub 2 dont see my windows 7
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1138 [09:11:02] <jelly> Gregory321: which specific installer image did you download (URL)? Does your system use legacy(BIOS) or UEFI firmware for booting?
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1145 [09:13:54] <Gregory321> i think its a legacy bios and my dvd is an Iso from oryginal page from debian
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1150 [09:14:24] <Gregory321> i was burned him yesterday
1151 [09:14:35] <Gregory321> veryfication is good no errors
1152 [09:15:07] <Gregory321> its a full dvd wit other distro like mate cinnamon kde
1153 [09:15:18] <Gregory321> version 8.0.0
1154 [09:15:24] <Gregory321> jessie i think:)
1155 [09:15:43] <jelly> are you positive it's 8.0.0? 8.8 is out...
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1157 [09:15:57] <jelly> do you have the EXACT URL of the image you used?
1158 [09:16:24] <Gregory321> 8.8.0 sorry mistake my
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1162 [09:17:39] <jelly> Gregory321: does debian work now? pastebin the output of "lsblk" command
1163 [09:17:40] <Sir_Designer> could it be that he has windows booting via mbr?
1164 [09:17:43] <jelly> !paste
1165 [09:17:43] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
1166 [09:17:59] <Gregory321> replaced-url
1167 [09:18:39] <Gregory321> its a fres instalation on ssd disk i create a root partition home boot and swap
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1169 [09:19:15] <Gregory321> when instalation started making grub he sees only vista loader nad i have only windows 7 on these ssd
1170 [09:19:35] <Gregory321> fresh instalation
1171 [09:20:08] <jelly> Gregory321: what happens when you choose the "vista loader" in grub menu?
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1174 [09:21:18] <Gregory321> i dontt chose him because the info says if i dont see my system it could be dangerous when i chcec the forums people adwices me repair the grub i mean updated but im a new in debian and i dont know where to start this
1175 [09:22:01] <Gregory321> the recomended the command like update-grub 2
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1179 [09:23:39] <Gregory321> im sorry for my write mistakes i wake up early to fix this:)
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1181 [09:25:24] <jelly> Gregory321: reboot, pick that "vista loader" entry in the menu, and tell us what happens.
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1185 [09:25:58] <Gregory321> ok ill try if it works i let you know thanks:)
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1211 [09:40:11] <Gregory321> jelly i find the solution on the other channel people say the vista loader its a wiondows 7 loader grub se hes loader as vista
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1218 [09:44:27] <Gregory321> i got a question about distro is mate is good or kde
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1220 [09:46:22] * Gregory321 so anybopdy tell me something about that:)
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1225 [09:49:07] <mrrhq> Mate is really good and fast, personally. KDE (and Gnome) are a litte heavier, but have more integration with Qt/GTK+ applications respectively.
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1227 [09:51:07] * Gregory321 about look is mate have a cool libray of themes
1228 [09:51:35] <Gregory321> i want to use linux for home and the future dor programming maybe:)
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1245 [10:03:04] * Gregory321 anybody tells me something more about distro
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1314 [10:46:37] <nils_> Is there a way I can get dhclient to be more verbose in the log messages? Specifically I have a problem with entries in resolv.conf sometimes not being set, I want to make sure that complete information is received from the DHCP server.
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1329 [11:04:10] <dcpc007> hi all, on serveurs or workstation, would you recommand or diapprouv autofs for nfs share usage on user home and shared applications ?
1330 [11:04:21] <dcpc007> even shared data folders
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1335 [11:06:58] <jolt> dcpc007: I think autofs is fine, we run that on our servers at work
1336 [11:07:12] <koollman> dcpc007: it's fine
1337 [11:07:13] <jolt> that and sssd to auto via LDAP
1338 [11:07:51] <jolt> (and AD unfortunately)
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1340 [11:08:08] <dcpc007> i used with NIS, but on new cluster they "forbid" autofs to put static fstab mounts... (simplier and no risk or mount delay they argue)
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1342 [11:08:39] <dcpc007> and then now, start to spread this everywhere (duplicate ldap + static mount )
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1345 [11:09:24] <dcpc007> i'd like the autofs for "hide" what user don't need, to have a very limited local config (only activate +auto.master :) ) and auto dismount when not used
1346 [11:09:32] <koollman> well, that's also the advantage of autofs ... dynamic maps... Sure, a purely static mount is simpler
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1349 [11:10:04] <dcpc007> and if we need to move "folders", it's easy on the central map... now we'll have to go on each local server/compute
1350 [11:10:08] <koollman> but it means you cannot just make the list evolve. what is their plan for deploying new mounts if they happen ?
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1353 [11:11:10] <dcpc007> should not have many "root" mount points .... user home, a common data, and an app, after all is in subfolders
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1356 [11:11:55] <dcpc007> but yes if we need a new one, will be more complicated, especially with user computer in dual boot .. (with some not booting often on linux :) ) and no deploy tool
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1378 [11:28:38] <EyaA> deb
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1382 [11:28:45] <EyaA> N
1383 [11:29:08] <bazhang> EyaA, debian support issue?
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1520 [12:44:15] <comrad> hi there
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1522 [12:44:37] <comrad> i deleted a configuration file and now I want to reinstall the according package with apt install --reinstall
1523 [12:44:45] <comrad> but the configuration file is not created
1524 [12:44:49] <comrad> what can i do?
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1527 [12:46:06] <NiLon> you could try dpkg-reconfigure
1528 [12:46:16] <f-a> hello. I am using gnome, how do I make scrollbars wider?
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1533 [12:47:48] <comrad> NiLon: no configuration file created :-(
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1535 [12:47:56] <comrad> i even removed the package at all and reinstalled
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1540 [12:49:16] <NiLon> comrad well if you purge it and then install again it should install config file as well
1541 [12:49:34] <comrad> NiLon: i found a solution
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1543 [12:49:36] <comrad> NiLon: apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install --reinstall icinga2-common
1544 [12:49:42] <comrad> does force the creation of configuration files
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1548 [12:52:02] <NiLon> good to know
1549 [12:52:22] <comrad> NiLon: maybe he didnt start to create the config files because some of them were still there
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1555 [12:53:52] <NiLon> could be and purge should remove all config files, thus I saw it might help
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1563 [12:58:05] <comrad> NiLon: right, purge was an option i didnt try
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1571 [13:01:21] <gardy> any debian stable & nextcloud experimets? how it worked?
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1579 [13:04:48] <jsheeren> hi all, quick question about the debian cloud images. in the jessie cloud image, after launching a vm, there is no /etc/hosts file. Is this normal?
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1595 [13:10:41] <Night_Elf> Is there a debian cloud image? Where?
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1667 [13:57:55] <at0m> ,v nextcloud
1668 [13:57:56] <judd> No package named 'nextcloud' was found in amd64.
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1670 [13:58:02] <at0m> ,v owncloud
1671 [13:58:03] <judd> Package: owncloud on amd64 -- jessie-security: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3
1672 [13:58:17] <at0m> guess they do their own repo's :s
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1695 [14:10:43] <altyr> at0m: replaced-url
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1712 [14:17:40] <gardy> what even is debian cloud?!?! :)
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1715 [14:19:02] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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1828 [15:35:37] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
1829 [15:36:47] <candidat> morning BluesKaj
1830 [15:36:49] <candidat> hey does anyone knows how to install on debian no-ip application ?
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1832 [15:37:01] <smhar> greetings
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1834 [15:37:33] <BluesKaj> hi candidat ...no ip app ??
1835 [15:37:45] <BluesKaj> hi smhar
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1838 [15:37:51] <candidat> BluesKaj: yes no ip app
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1841 [15:38:04] <BluesKaj> what does that mean ?
1842 [15:38:49] <candidat> replaced-url
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1844 [15:39:25] <smhar> I have debian jessie installed on a laptop. I installed another jessie along side it in another partition.. both are sharing a /boot partition .. Both start with the same kernel. Then I upgraded the new jessie to stretch with new kernel
1845 [15:39:52] <candidat> i have a small server and its a debian and i want to install the dyndns called noip
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1847 [15:40:06] <candidat> there is a source application to install on the server
1848 [15:40:10] <smhar> I want to remove the old kernel from stretch.. but since it is in the same share /boot, will it affect the old jessie?
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1857 [15:43:33] <BluesKaj> candidat, seems you just follow thirt instructions, it really has nothing to do with debian
1858 [15:43:47] <BluesKaj> their
1859 [15:44:17] <candidat> i need help concerning installation on debian
1860 [15:44:30] <BluesKaj> candidat, you may want to ask in #networking
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1886 [16:02:21] <cronic> Hey guys/girls. Is it possible to "build" a .deb package with some .sh files & without compiling something? ill get an error after installing my own .deb package whats telling me that "error processing package OWNPACKAGE (--install):
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1888 [16:02:33] <cronic> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
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1891 [16:03:34] <themill> why do you have a postinst script?
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1893 [16:04:43] <cronic> i want .deb for managing depencies, the postinst script is a call to another script that does a configure dialog to make a config.cfg
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1898 [16:06:12] <themill> a common mistake is to do too much in postinst btw
1899 [16:06:40] <themill> anyway, walk before you run. skip the postinst; is the rest of the package OK?
1900 [16:06:47] <cronic> mhh theres nothing special, just a key exchange
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1903 [16:07:07] <cronic> should be. hold on ill rm the postinst.
1904 [16:07:20] <themill> errno 127 is key expired btw
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1906 [16:07:46] <cronic> naah.. not known host?
1907 [16:07:49] <cronic> could be..
1908 [16:08:18] <themill> the numbers aren't unique of course, but that's from errno.h
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1912 [16:09:50] <caisong_> hello, does someone know how to support nfsd 4.2 on Debian
1913 [16:09:54] <cronic> jap.. solved :>
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1918 [16:10:24] <themill> np
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2007 [16:53:06] <FlashDance> What exactly am I looking for: I want a copy of Debian 8.8 release for a computer without internet... I also want a copy of the USB bootable and install on portable flashdrive?
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2010 [16:53:30] <FlashDance> I had done the same with Jessie
2011 [16:53:41] <missmbob> 8.8 is jessie
2012 [16:53:54] <FlashDance> 8.7 Jessie
2013 [16:54:08] <missmbob> 8 anything is jessie. .x is just the patch update series
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2015 [16:54:39] <jhutchins_wk> FlashDance: So download it.
2016 [16:54:39] <somiaj> FlashDance: the dvd image should be enough, just get a more current debian image. Or if you have an older debian .iso you use, you can get just an update cd.
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2019 [16:55:30] <FlashDance> DVD image or cd update... Thank you,
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2021 [16:56:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> What's a good resource/guide for creating binary-only packages (e.g. for blobs, firmware etc.)?
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2024 [16:57:40] <missmbob> do it the normal way and then delete the source packages? :P
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2026 [16:58:38] <somiaj> dpkg-buildpackage and other tools have flags -b to build binary only packages.
2027 [16:59:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> I mean I want to create a package from scratch, not just build it.
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2033 [17:01:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> I suspect I should use dh_make and go from there, but I'm unsure if there's anything better.
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2041 [17:04:38] <cronic> Eduard_Munteanu: Do you want a .deb package?
2042 [17:05:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> cronic, yes
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2044 [17:05:40] <somiaj> Eduard_Munteanu: have you read the debian new matainers guide?
2045 [17:05:42] <somiaj> !dmg
2046 [17:05:42] <dpkg> hmm... dmg is Apple Disk Image. If compressed (VAX COFF executable not stripped) use dmg2img, then mount -t hfsplus -o loop ... or <wodim>.
2047 [17:05:54] <somiaj> !nmg
2048 [17:05:54] <dpkg> The packaging tutorial (replaced-url
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2050 [17:06:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yeah, I was just looking through the maintainer guide. I guess I'll go that way.
2051 [17:07:52] <cronic> Eduard_Munteanu: type "dpkg -b . THENAMEOFDEB.deb"
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2054 [17:09:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, hm. I should try making a full package first, though.
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2056 [17:10:01] <cronic> Eduard_Munteanu: replaced-url
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2069 [17:12:56] <VentGrey> Hello world, any systemd experts here?
2070 [17:13:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> Thanks.
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2072 [17:13:17] <cronic> VentGrey: #systemd ?
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2074 [17:13:30] <VentGrey> It's about a bluetooth problem
2075 [17:13:45] <petn-randall> VentGrey: If it's on Debian, just ask your question, and someone who knows will answer.
2076 [17:13:49] <cronic> VentGrey: That was a hint to check the chan #systemd :p
2077 [17:13:55] <petn-randall> !ask
2078 [17:13:55] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
2079 [17:14:20] <VentGrey> i want to disable it, tried with systemctl disable bluetooth, tried to rfkill and so but it starts the darn bluetooth.service everytime i reboot
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2083 [17:15:37] <petn-randall> VentGrey: Do you just want to have it off by default, or do you want to kill the service permanently, making bluetooth impossible to use?
2084 [17:16:12] <cronic> VentGrey: normaly "systemctl disable bluetooth.service"
2085 [17:16:15] <cronic> afaik
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2087 [17:16:46] <VentGrey> I want to kill it forever
2088 [17:16:48] <greycat> That should be the same as systemctl disable bluetooth which he said he already tried.
2089 [17:17:02] <VentGrey> yeah i disabled both service and socket
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2091 [17:17:19] <greycat> Oh, he lied about what he already tried. Typical.
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2093 [17:17:21] <cronic> there is a "systemctl mask name.service"
2094 [17:17:24] <cronic> :D
2095 [17:17:33] <greycat> Can't you just delete the package if you want it dead forever?
2096 [17:18:09] <VentGrey> boot messages
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2100 [17:18:24] <VentGrey> takes like 10 seconds to realize it's missing bluetooth
2101 [17:18:58] <cronic> maybe that helps
2102 [17:18:59] <cronic> replaced-url
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2104 [17:19:02] <greycat> So delete whatever it is that's waiting for bluetooth.
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2110 [17:21:52] <dStruct> VentGrey: I'm not a bluetooth expert but on more modern systems with EFI they're able to initialize things like bluetooth, you can also some times disable them completely from the EFI. If your bluetooth hardware for example isn't compatible with the kernel module/driver you have, that may explain why it's not responding. Your dmesg/syslog may have some answers
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2116 [17:23:24] <jhutchins_wk> VentGrey: You could also try blacklisting the blutooth module(s).
2117 [17:23:55] <VentGrey> i followed the advice from Cronic
2118 [17:24:01] <VentGrey> im going to reboot and see
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2120 [17:24:08] <petn-randall> greycat: "systemctl disable bluetooth.service" still allows the service to be triggered by another service/socket.
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2122 [17:24:57] <greycat> *nod* I was thinking along those lines... and then he said "no wait, I actually did X and Y"
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2125 [17:25:50] <greycat> I don't know if I ever received a coherent answer to "delete the package", but if the actual *root* of the problem is a kernel module being loaded, well....
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2129 [17:26:45] <petn-randall> greycat: IIRC "systemctl disable bluetooth.socket" is not the same as "systemctl mask bluetooth.service".
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2136 [17:29:34] <VentGrey> Wow it actually worked :D
2137 [17:29:53] <cronic> :like: mask?
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2142 [17:31:01] <VentGrey> Yeah
2143 [17:31:03] <VentGrey> masked
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2145 [17:31:11] <VentGrey> and rm everything
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2216 [18:05:52] <johnfg> hi folks
2217 [18:07:02] <johnfg> quick question: after being logged on for a while, I lose some functionality with the keyboard, viz., keys won't repeat. Logging out and logging in fixes what's wrong.
2218 [18:07:13] <johnfg> How can I get things back without logging out?
2219 [18:07:26] <johnfg> I'm running jessie with all updates.
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2223 [18:08:15] <petn-randall> johnfg: Is the keyboard connected via USB?
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2225 [18:09:36] <johnfg> petn-randall: No, the "regular" keyboard cord.
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2230 [18:10:37] <petn-randall> johnfg: You mean it's an internal laptop keyboard?
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2232 [18:11:01] <alekz> lot of lack of info for this issue johnfg
2233 [18:11:07] <johnfg> No, it's a keyboard plugged into the laptop.
2234 [18:11:41] <johnfg> alekz: I wish I had more. No warning sign that the keys are going to stop repeating.
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2238 [18:12:40] <alekz> I'm sure you have more info, like: a. When did it started to fail? b. What troubleshoot have you performed until now? c. Is the keyboard working well in other box? etc.
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2243 [18:14:18] <FlashDance> John: Do you have the dongle ? wireless?
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2246 [18:14:40] <alekz> he said is plugged, I want to think is wired
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2262 [18:20:09] <CDuv> I cannot remove a package because it's broken, apt ask me to reinstall it first.
2263 [18:20:09] <CDuv> But package .deb does not exist anymore on Debian Archive sites (a new version was released)...
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2275 [18:22:42] <alekz> CDuv: since there are no details, it's hard to help you
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2277 [18:23:18] <greycat> !archive
2278 [18:23:18] <greycat> Hmm, bot is sleepy.
2279 [18:23:19] <dpkg> somebody said archive was a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see replaced-url
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2281 [18:23:49] <petn-randall> !bat
2282 [18:23:49] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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2284 [18:24:01] <petn-randall> CDuv: Can you provide the info above? ^^^
2285 [18:24:57] <yeehi> Run Debian GNU+Linux on a Kindle! (Jailbreak and instructions too) replaced-url
2286 [18:25:20] <alekz> is Dylan Hamer now spamming?
2287 [18:25:21] <alekz> lol
2288 [18:25:32] <greycat> !snapshot
2289 [18:25:32] <dpkg> replaced-url
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2291 [18:25:37] <petn-randall> yeehi: This is a Debian support channel, please keep it on-topic.
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2293 [18:26:10] <CDuv> alekz: I was looking for a way to retrieve old version .deb file.
2294 [18:26:11] <CDuv> !localized errors
2295 [18:26:11] <dpkg> Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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2304 [18:30:44] <CDuv> petn-randall: Here are the infos replaced-url
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2307 [18:32:19] <yeehi> petn-randall - sorry, didn't realize it was for *support*
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2311 [18:34:19] <CDuv> I managed to grab a copy of the old version (currently install) .deb from the /var/cache/apt/archives/ of another server.
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2328 [18:41:54] <CDuv> Ran `dpkg --unpack packagename_oldversion.deb`, which triggered some install wizard, then running `aptitude remove packagename` worked :)
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2330 [18:43:00] <alekz> great =)
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2344 [18:47:54] <petn-randall> CDuv: You're running a 3rd party repo for jessie with stretch. I'm not surprised it doesn't work.
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2348 [18:50:02] <CDuv> This 3rd party repo does not provides the problematic package (phpmyadmin).
2349 [18:50:02] <petn-randall> CDuv: What were you trying to accomplish on this machine?
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2351 [18:50:23] <CDuv> Initially, a simple `aptitude upgrade`
2352 [18:51:18] <CDuv> Which failed because of broken phpmyadmin package, so looked for how to repair that (by reinstalling or removing).
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2357 [18:51:47] <petn-randall> CDuv: Did you fully upgrade your system to stretch?
2358 [18:51:59] <petn-randall> "apt-get dist-upgrade" would do this.
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2362 [18:55:35] <CDuv> Yes, system was fully upgraded to stretch (months ago): I was just doing some maintenance upgrades
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2366 [18:57:32] <petn-randall> CDuv: As long as stretch isn't released, you have to do it regularly. Months ago won't do.
2367 [18:58:14] <petn-randall> CDuv: If the error still persists when fully upgraded, we can look into the issue.
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2375 [19:02:19] <CDuv> I was unclear, system was fully upgraded months ago but I did regular upgrades in the mean time (but I might have not did it in the past 2 weeks).
2376 [19:02:19] <CDuv> I understand Stretch is not stable: that's why my question was more general: how to reinstall a package when the .deb file is nowhere to be found.
2377 [19:02:19] <CDuv> I didn't realized repo were removing old .deb (but it's quite understandable: it would take too many disk place...)
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2379 [19:03:20] <greycat> The !snapshot factoid tells you where they go out to pasture.
2380 [19:03:25] <somiaj> !obslete
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2382 [19:04:02] <petn-randall> !tell CDuv -about snapshot
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2384 [19:04:21] * CDuv upgraded all his Stretch minions
2385 [19:04:39] <somiaj> if a package was removed from stretch you should see why, many times it is because the package is buggy.
2386 [19:04:46] <greycat> (It was triggered in channel a while back.)
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2395 [19:06:16] <CDuv> Thanks!
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2437 [19:24:15] <tonyt> downloading debian 8.8 via torrent. i see there is 3 total dvd iso. can anyone tell me wat dvd 2 and 3 is for?
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2439 [19:24:50] <greycat> More packages.
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2441 [19:24:57] <greycat> Same thing DVD 1 is for, really.
2442 [19:25:28] <greycat> To hold the three dozen window managers and a score of text editors you will never use, etc.
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2446 [19:27:17] <somiaj> but what if you want to use fvwm1...
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2449 [19:27:40] <greycat> Then you apt-get install it from the internet just like everything else.
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2453 [19:28:35] <jelly> somiaj: then you go back to slink like a filthy peasant
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2458 [19:32:25] <tonyt> greycat ok
2459 [19:32:59] <tonyt> so i should be good with just the dvd 1 iso then i take it
2460 [19:33:42] <greycat> Most people are, yes.
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2464 [19:34:49] <tonyt> j
2465 [19:34:50] <tonyt> k
2466 [19:34:55] <jelly> assuming they have a wired internet connection at installation time
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2470 [19:36:38] <jvelasquez> anyone seen strange behavior with ext4 partitions on usb storage devices, with journaling turned off, when making changes, umounting, and then booting that usb device, and then the changes are not there, but when put back into my system and mounted, the changes are there, but when checking again after booting the changes are not there??
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2481 [19:41:14] <jvelasquez> can I get a version number out of the filesystem?
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2484 [19:41:53] <jvelasquez> or a timestamp of last change?
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2491 [19:42:44] <centrx> jvelasquez: stat filename will give you a lot of info about the file
2492 [19:42:49] <centrx> jvelasquez: including the timestamp of the last change
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2496 [19:43:27] <centrx> jvelasquez: There is a difference between "Modify" and "Change", I forget what it is, might be related to permissions or metadata changes versus file modifications
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2500 [19:43:56] <jvelasquez> when I boot off a thumbdrive, it doesn't see my changes.
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2503 [19:44:14] <jvelasquez> but when I mount to desk, my desk sees the changes.
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2507 [19:45:30] <jhutchins_wk_> jvelasquez: What changes?
2508 [19:45:54] <jvelasquez> a small edit to /lib/systemd/system/getty\@.service
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2510 [19:46:53] <jhutchins_wk_> jvelasquez: So you edit the file when booted from the USB, save it, open it again and it's unchanged?
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2514 [19:47:48] <jvelasquez> jhutchins_wk_, yes. but that's expected, because I have it using aufs, with the rw going to a tmpfs
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2517 [19:49:04] <jvelasquez> is it bad to edit a fs, when it's in use by a virtual machine ?
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2522 [19:49:24] <greycat> I would imagine yes.
2523 [19:49:39] <jvelasquez> that might be how this trouble started.
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2531 [19:52:20] <jhutchins_wk_> jvelasquez: Generally allowing multiple tasks write access to the same file is bad.
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2534 [19:53:22] <grady> when i try to install php from jessie repository, i get 5.3.3 squeeze version
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2537 [19:53:35] <jvelasquez> ok. so I re mkfs.ext -o ^has_jour...., and copied it all over, and it's behaving now.
2538 [19:53:37] <grady> how that can been :)
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2542 [19:54:24] <jvelasquez> apt-get install php7.0
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2547 [19:55:11] <grady> jvelasquez, what :D
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2552 [19:58:50] <jvelasquez> from systemd, what's a strategy to start up something else instead of agetty on tty0 or tty1, which ever is active on boot? I want the default tty to be something else.
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2639 [20:27:07] <setuid> Is there a window manager that, when installed, defaults to having a 'Debian 8' wallpaper by default?
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2642 [20:27:58] <setuid> I'm trying to track down a bug a client reported, very odd issue. They claim they were running Ubuntu 14.04 and upgraded to 16.04, but left them with a Debian 8 system. I've replicated all of the obvious edge cases that could cause this, and eliminated all but some wm package that may have given them a Debian 8 splash, confusing them.
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2648 [20:30:07] <ryihne> they might have upgraded to ubuntu 17
2649 [20:30:12] <ryihne> it has gnome desktop i guess
2650 [20:30:57] <setuid> They would have had to have specifically overridden the defaults to do that, knowingly
2651 [20:31:00] <setuid> you can't do it accidentally
2652 [20:31:20] <setuid> IOW, do-release-upgrade won't push you to zesty
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2660 [20:33:40] <ryihne> hmm
2661 [20:33:52] <antena-cli> Hi! I am using Debian 8.7 Jessie x86_64 Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 running Cinnamon 2.2.16. I just dropped 30 1MB image files in the desktop and then I tried to open the file manager and the trash can. It became way way way slow. I managed to take those 30 files out of the desktop and everyting became normal again. What's happening and how can I fix this so I can use my desktop properly?
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2663 [20:34:32] <setuid> antena-cli: was it building thumbnails/indexing?
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2665 [20:35:18] <antena-cli> Yes.
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2669 [20:36:19] <setuid> Ok, so let it do that, then the next invocation should be normal
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2677 [20:42:32] <antena-cli> setuid: It's done. Still slow as Hell. I try to open a menu and it take like 20 seconds to show the menu. When I move the files to /home/user/some_folder/ the problem disapear. It only happens if I put thinks in the desktop.
2678 [20:42:46] <setuid> antena-cli: are you sure you didn't add a lot of new fonts?
2679 [20:43:11] <antena-cli> setuid: I didn't added any fonts since I installed Debian.
2680 [20:43:21] <greycat> Is it doing one of those "I am a desktop environment! I will xapian-index every document the users puts here!"
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2683 [20:44:03] <jhutchins_wk_> ,v php
2684 [20:44:04] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; sid: 1:7.0+52
2685 [20:44:15] <jhutchins_wk_> ,v php-common
2686 [20:44:16] <judd> Package: php-common on amd64 -- stretch: 1:49; sid: 1:52
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2695 [20:46:37] <jhutchins_wk_> antena-cli: Is your goal to have a desktop image that's composited from multiple images?
2696 [20:46:50] <jhutchins_wk_> antena-cli: background image?
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2698 [20:47:46] <antena-cli> jhutchins: No. I just wanted to put some files in the desktop and organize them there. But it gets very slow. I'll have to do it in some folder somewhere else.
2699 [20:48:07] <jhutchins_wk_> Yeah, the desktop is not really intended as a place to store files.
2700 [20:48:42] <greycat> I still suspect some sort of auto indexing with the intent to offer the ability to "search these precious documents" later.
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2728 [21:04:32] <francine> Debian Xen doesn't boot when I try to boot using (U)EFI ... how can I fix it?
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2730 [21:04:40] <francine> It hands with initam init or so
2731 [21:04:45] <francine> *hangs
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2734 [21:05:27] <ChmEarl> francine, there is a BTS that describes putting all in the ESP
2735 [21:06:00] <francine> BTS?
2736 [21:06:06] <ChmEarl> replaced-url
2737 [21:06:07] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2739 [21:06:58] <francine> My grub etc _is_ in /boot(efi
2740 [21:07:01] <francine> * /boot/efi
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2746 [21:09:18] <francine> ChmEarl: I have read many articles etc and don't get it working
2747 [21:09:21] <francine> What can I do?
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2751 [21:11:33] <ChmEarl> francine, drop into the UEFI shell and try from there
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2754 [21:12:45] <francine> ChmEarl: I'm not into UEFI ... I don't know how to use it
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2762 [21:14:28] <AlexLikeRock_> hi
2763 [21:14:48] <AlexLikeRock_> recomendation for a multimedia to WEBDAV
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2765 [21:15:30] <jhutchins_wk_> francine:replaced-url
2766 [21:15:35] <MaxLanar> hi, vlc can't manage to center my video when I play it fullscreen. (the image stay on the bottom left with big black empty space around it on the top and the right). Is there a trick or option I missed in order to play it at the center ?
2767 [21:16:58] <MaxLanar> sadly mplayer can't play it (it can't play any x265 vid on my debian box)
2768 [21:17:12] <francine> jhutchins_wk_: I doesn't help me if I don't know _what_ I want to do there for Xen
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2774 [21:20:26] <jelly> MaxLanar: what about mpv?
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2777 [21:21:14] <AlexLikeRock_> you need codec to x265 MaxLanar
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2779 [21:21:33] <AlexLikeRock_> libXXXX265
2780 [21:21:35] <MaxLanar> jelly: never mind, "In Tools > Preferences > Video > Output change to "OpenGL GLX video output(XCB)", save and restart vlc" did the trick :)
2781 [21:21:42] <somiaj> MaxLanar: could it be a videocard/video mode option in which vlc isn't able to stretch the video to fit full screen, and just makes it full size
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2783 [21:21:49] <jelly> AlexLikeRock_: that won't help on its own
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2785 [21:22:47] <jelly> MaxLanar: did you have some weird output configured?
2786 [21:22:58] <jelly> before that
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2790 [21:25:01] <antena-cli> jhutchins: Not to store files, but in Windows I can use it to organize them before storing it in some folder. The desktop is a nice place to organize stuff. Is like a real desktop, where we work with stuff before storing it somewhere else.
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2833 [21:43:08] <dgriffi> is there a debian-mate forum or mailing list somewhere?
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2885 [22:11:32] <MaxLanar> jelly: yes, I had OpenGL experimental
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2931 [22:33:07] <jhutchins_wk_> `!mate
2932 [22:33:11] <jhutchins_wk_> !mate
2933 [22:33:12] <dpkg> The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. replaced-url
2934 [22:33:30] <jhutchins_wk_> dgriffi: See above.
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2939 [22:35:36] <Azrael_-> hi
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2944 [22:37:07] <Azrael_-> i've added the jessie backport-source to apt and installed just one package. now occasionally apt offers me a whole other non-related packages from bpo as update although the basic package is installed from the normal sources. how can i debug/analyze this best?
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2946 [22:37:51] <greycat> !bat
2947 [22:37:52] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2948 [22:37:57] <jhutchins_wk_> Azrael_-: This is not normal behavior. What changes have you made to the apt config?
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2950 [22:38:35] <Azrael_-> greycat: thanks for answering, output coming up :)
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2967 [22:45:32] <Azrael_-> here is the output, hope this is enough for you: replaced-url
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2970 [22:45:43] <Azrael_-> if you need something else, feel free to ask
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2973 [22:47:58] <Azrael_-> seems like there are now also some valid upgrades but i don't know how i could separate them from the wrong ones beside temporarily disabling the backport-source
2974 [22:48:13] <greycat> Which package do you believe it is trying to update from bpo that it should't?
2975 [22:48:26] <greycat> All I see are normal jessie 8.8 updates.
2976 [22:48:31] <Azrael_-> irqbalance libsystemd0 libudev1 linux-libc-dev systemd systemd-sysv udev
2977 [22:48:54] <Azrael_-> or am i wrong here?
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2979 [22:49:05] <johnkeates> no, you are Azrael_- here
2980 [22:49:16] <greycat> For irqbalance, you see the installation candidate 1.0.6-3+deb8u1 *not* 1.1.0-2~bpo8+1
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2983 [22:50:09] <greycat> The same is true for the others. None of them have bpo in the candidate version.
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2985 [22:50:31] <Azrael_-> omg, thank you. then i'm relieved and now learned how to read the output properly
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2989 [22:52:46] <Azrael_-> sorry for the hassle, then i'll just run the upgrades. i still don't know why some packages showed up and sometimes not, but if i can just run the upgrades, i'm fine. i'll probably come with more issues soon. hope you'll be still so patient with me
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3003 [22:57:47] <ausjke> i need use dh_* tools to build many packages however it's not leveraging multiple cores, anyway to set up a global flag that do -jN?
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3005 [22:58:24] <jhutchins_wk_> Azrael_-: You'll be fine, Debian's pretty reliable.
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3009 [22:59:05] <greycat> ausjke: build multiple packages in parallel instead of trying to build ONE in parallel?
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3012 [22:59:53] <greycat> Other than that, you could set PATH so that your own make is before /usr/bin/make, and your own make can be a simple wrapper script that does exec /usr/bin/make -j4 "$@"
3013 [23:00:27] <greycat> Other than that, you can go run Gentoo, since this is the kind of thing I would expect Gentoo to do.
3014 [23:00:37] <ausjke> greycat: thanks. will take the second approach, as the packages have dependencies that are hard to manage, thus parallel building pkgs are not safe
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3018 [23:01:55] <ausjke> it looks like the dpkg-cross project is dead, hard to cross-compile on newer debians...
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