• 0[00:00:00] <francine> Hmm
• 1[00:00:06] <francine> Let's not flood the channel
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• 5[00:00:26] <ForceRecon> being a no it all is even worse
• 6[00:00:31] <alesan> jelly, emdebian in fact
• 7[00:00:35] <alekz> francine: that's ForceRecon's seal
• 8[00:00:41] <francine> ForceRecon: Your iptables is healthly, you just don't have setup any rules
• 9[00:00:50] <francine> * didn't
• 10[00:01:03] <jelly> gljoe: "scatter files" are also mtk specific I think. Try finding a mediatek related channel and ask there.
• 11[00:01:09] <ForceRecon> yeah I know.. thanks.. I was just looking for the command.. but thanks..
• 12[00:01:29] <gljoe> jelly...ok but i dont have a clue where to locate an mtk specific channel
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• 14[00:01:42] <jelly> gljoe: /msg alis list mediatek
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• 16[00:01:50] <jelly> to search on this network.
• 17[00:01:52] <ForceRecon> I am working on a small script where I send 10billion amps to a PC while the operator is sitting at it.. alekz is my first test subject
• 18[00:02:03] <alesan> jelly, I used to have deb replaced-url
• 19[00:02:12] <jelly> ForceRecon: please keep your lines in here to tech support
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• 22[00:02:31] <ForceRecon> jelly, I was.. I was edged on
• 23[00:02:37] <jelly> ForceRecon: don't care.
• 24[00:02:39] <ForceRecon> I listen I obey
• 25[00:02:46] <alesan> jelly, I would be happy to install the correct package now... any idea how to get the one from the "regular" wheezy?
• 26[00:03:21] <jelly> alesan: you'd have to both replace libudev and install matching libudev-dev
• 27[00:03:39] <jelly> but without knowing more it's hard to say
• 28[00:03:43] <jelly> so AGAIN
• 29[00:03:45] <jelly> !bat
• 30[00:03:45] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 31[00:03:54] <jelly> alesan: ^^ read this CAREFULLY
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• 34[00:04:15] <alesan> jelly, OK I need to add the package policy you mean?
• 35[00:04:33] <jelly> Provide all the requested info. 1. and 2. and 3.
• 36[00:04:42] <jelly> preferably in the same pastebin entry.
• 37[00:05:19] <gljoe> jelly ok..i found only one channel called linux-mediatek but there is hardly no one in it and so far no one has answered any questions about a debian app
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• 42[00:06:37] <alesan> jelly, replaced-url
• 43[00:06:47] <alesan> I believe I have put everything that was specified
• 44[00:07:04] <expert975> My audio card has stopped working. How to proceed?
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• 49[00:09:28] <jelly> alesan: alright, apt-get refuses to downgrade packages. Use aptitude, or first force installation of the wheezy version using "apt-get install libudev0=175-7.2" syntax
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• 54[00:10:54] <alesan> aptitude is not installed o nthis system, so I will first try the apt-get syntax
• 55[00:11:08] <uniTosch> expert975: check the audio levels. alsamixer, pavucontrol or your DE's audio settings. and check if the right output device is selected.
• 56[00:11:18] <gljoe> man these telephone problems really suck with so many people saying we are going to screw all those google phones to make them buy all their apps from our store.
• 57[00:11:30] <expert975> uniTosch: Did and done!
• 58[00:11:54] <jelly> gljoe: this isn't really debian specific but more of a linux vs windows issue
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• 62[00:12:45] <gljoe> jelly..yea well there are windows apps known to work..but i don't happen to have a working copy of windows...the damn os doesn't like my hardware and refuses to boot on another machine
• 63[00:13:10] <jelly> gljoe: you'll probably get more useful clues if you stop focusing on debian, and see if you can get stuff to work on any linux
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• 67[00:13:33] <gljoe> first it complains that there is no agp440 device and hangs because this damn hardware uses intel graphics
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• 70[00:14:12] <gljoe> so i can't get the damn xp to boot so...i would just as soon look for a debian app to reinstall all the roms
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• 73[00:14:22] <alesan> jelly, thanks
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• 76[00:16:07] <gljoe> and then if you rename the agp440sys driver to get it out of the way...it hangs on the mup driver since this damn hardware uses an atom chip instead of a pentium
• 77[00:16:31] <gljoe> so the damn microsoft crap doesn't work worth a flip
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• 79[00:17:22] <gljoe> jelly...so that is why i am trying to find a 32 bit debian version
• 80[00:17:28] <gljoe> to flash all those roms
• 81[00:17:41] <jelly> good luck with that
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• 96[00:22:57] <dannyLopez> I have a problem, I edited the fstab and I did not load the system, now I edited the grub with init=/bin/bash and I deleted the lines that I put in, but still no X, just let me log in as root in ttys and X
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• 147[00:26:44] <gljoe> and its a problem because there are so many app developers in various countries screwing all the android phones to make sure they can never use anything from a google play store....and then trying to take away all their business and give it to their own internet stores
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• 247[00:29:20] <jelly> stupid bot
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• 255[00:30:26] <gljoe> its just amazing how corrupt and destructive people are when it comes to taking away billion dollar enterprises from google and others like them
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• 265[00:31:53] <gljoe> especially when they are trying to divert the google customers money into their own pockets
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• 278[00:35:55] <gljoe> and you can't even use libmtp to communicate with the phone since the android.process.media service stops as soon as you connect a computer to the phone
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• 280[00:36:10] <alesan> is a line in sources.list like: deb-src replaced-url
• 281[00:36:20] <alesan> I would like to be able to compile a package myself
• 282[00:36:28] <gljoe> they really know how to completely screw the android phones to divert customers money into their own pockets
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• 286[00:36:51] <alesan> I had the line about sid (only change sid became jessie)
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• 290[00:37:37] <gljoe> and it just goes to show that the android system using a secure linux kernel is a big joke to malicious coders
• 291[00:37:54] <uniTosch> alesan: looks about right.
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• 295[00:38:48] <uniTosch> alesan: apt-get source will pick the package with the highest version if not specified, iirc.
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• 299[00:40:07] <gljoe> so at least everyone will know there is no such thing as a security hardened linux kernel
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• 301[00:40:42] <uniTosch> "the newest available version of that source package while respecting the default release" or maybe not.
• 302[00:40:44] <gljoe> because where big dollars are concerned ...there is no stopping the malicious coders
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• 304[00:40:55] <uniTosch> and why are you ranting in here?
• 305[00:40:57] <alesan> uniTosch, replaced-url
• 306[00:41:04] <alesan> it seems it does not find the sources at all
• 307[00:41:28] <gljoe> uniTosch..it is not a rant...it is a fact that everyone is destroying the android phones for their own monetary gain.
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• 312[00:42:02] <uniTosch> move it to #debian-offtopic, then.
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• 315[00:42:40] <gljoe> uniTosch...okay if you insist but i am trying to see if anyone knows of a debian app that can solve some of these problems
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• 328[00:46:58] <uniTosch> alesan: that mirror works for me. but deb.debian.org is a cdn thingy. try a different mirror. replaced-url
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• 331[00:47:20] <alesan> I'l try
• 332[00:47:56] <uniTosch> alesan: also, which release are you on, you seem to be mixing wheezy and jessie.
• 333[00:48:04] <dannyLopez> I have a problem, I edited the fstab and I did not load the system, now I edited the grub with init=/bin/bash and I deleted the lines that I put in, but still no X, just let me log in as root in ttys and X
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• 335[00:48:31] <alesan> uniTosch, I would like to build a jessie package on this wheezy installation.
• 336[00:48:47] <alesan> the sid package requires too many new dependencies
• 337[00:48:55] <alesan> I wanted to try with the jessie one
• 338[00:49:18] <uniTosch> alesan: you can check with the bot if you can backport a package. which package is that?
• 339[00:50:32] <jelly> /msg judd checkbackport mplayer2 --fromrelease jessie --torelease wheezy
• 340[00:50:32] <alesan> pcscd, libpcsc-lite, and ccid
• 341[00:50:49] <ForceRecon> can you uninstall icedove - thunderbird without causing any issues for Thunderbird itself
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• 345[00:51:47] <uniTosch> yes
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• 364[00:58:24] <alesan> hm
• 365[00:58:37] <jelly> ,v libgl1-mesa-dri
• 366[00:58:38] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 -- wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; sid: 13.0.6-1+b2; experimental: 17.0.4-1
• 367[00:58:40] <ForceRecon> better
• 368[00:58:41] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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• 370[00:58:47] <alesan> so how would I use the bot to check for backport?
• 371[00:59:02] <jelly> alesan: /msg judd checkbackport
• 372[00:59:04] <alesan> oh judd is the bot?
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• 377[00:59:53] <uniTosch> or just good with numbers. ^^
• 378[01:00:02] <ForceRecon> sudo iptables -L
• 379[01:00:02] <gljoe> is there a debian build on etcher that is compatitble with stretch
• 380[01:00:07] <alesan> <judd> Backporting package pcscd in jessie→wheezy/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy-backports, archignore, wheezy
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• 382[01:00:50] <alesan> yeah but I cannot access the jessie sources, the apt-get update gives that error I pastebin'd before
• 383[01:01:08] <vagrant`> what does it mean that a debian (jessie amd64 iso) torrent's sha512sum doesn't match anything in the SHA512SUM file?
• 384[01:01:12] <gljoe> does anyone know of a debian build for etcher that works with 32 bit stretch
• 385[01:01:20] <uniTosch> alesan: even after you switched to a different mirror?
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• 390[01:04:17] <gljoe> and does etcher really make bootable windows usb sticks for reinstalling windowscrap that will not work when hardware has to be modified
• 391[01:04:46] <missmbob> !etcher
• 392[01:04:47] <dpkg> etcher is probably initial testing shows etcher is not a reliable way to copy debian images for installation. instead use cp or dd for linux, or win32diskimager for windows. replaced-url
• 393[01:05:19] <alesan> uniTosch, yes I switched to ftp.us
• 394[01:05:49] <gljoe> dpkg...it is never a problem with debian on any of the usb isos....it is the damn windows stuff that is the problem and etcher says it can make bootable windows usb sticks for reinstalling windows without a cdrom
• 395[01:05:59] <alesan> the error message is pretty much the same
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• 398[01:06:28] <alesan> uniTosch, replaced-url
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• 401[01:07:15] <uniTosch> that's the same paste from before.
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• 403[01:07:30] <gljoe> since the damn windows crap is not robust enough to permit hardware changes
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• 405[01:08:35] <alesan> you are correct uniTosch sorry
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• 410[01:10:20] <alesan> uniTosch, replaced-url
• 411[01:10:51] <vagrant`> is it a common thing to download debian torrents with altered contents?
• 412[01:11:15] <jelly> it's somewhat uncommon to use debian torrents at all
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• 415[01:12:03] <gljoe> well i guess icedove does not work well with stretch since it just crashed
• 416[01:12:04] <uniTosch> alesan: debian uses http for fetching from mirrors, not ftp. replaced-url
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• 418[01:12:06] <vagrant`> so it's common to download via http, even though it is explicitly recommended against by debian.org?
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• 420[01:12:41] <alesan> uniTosch, I will change
• 421[01:12:42] <gljoe> that is too bad...icedove was a nice app
• 422[01:13:00] <uniTosch> i wonder about the gpg errors, though. the keys should be in debian-archive-keyring. check if that package is up-to-date.
• 423[01:13:03] <vagrant`> jelly and even though download speeds are usually terrible compared to torrenting the iso?
• 424[01:13:04] <jelly> vagrant`: where is it recommended against? Yes, download the installed via http, and verify gpg signatures on checksum files.
• 425[01:13:16] <alesan> uniTosch, most likely it isn't :)
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• 427[01:13:50] <jelly> vagrant`: they're not "usually terrible" IME
• 428[01:14:12] <jelly> vagrant`: which URL are you getting terrible speeds for?
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• 432[01:14:41] <gljoe> but i personally have not run into a problem with booting any linux distro usb sticks...it is just the windows crap that seems to be a hell of a problem
• 433[01:15:12] <jelly> vagrant`: and do you have a specific page where you found this recommendation against http download of installer .iso?
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• 437[01:16:42] <jelly> gljoe: srsly dude, noone cares about windows. Keep comments in this channel to Debian tech support. Further tangents on how something is "windows crap" may get you quieted
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• 443[01:19:39] <woshty> jelly: replaced-url
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• 448[01:20:32] <HotSwap> hey, I have a dovecot configuration question. The allowed protocols are being pulled in from /usr/share/dovecot/protocols.d. I was wondering how to properly disable one. Deleting one of the files works, but they reappear on upgrade. I'm sure there must be a config line in /etc thats causing this directory to be imported, but I can't find it.
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• 451[01:21:23] <HotSwap> hah! I'm an idiot
• 452[01:21:24] <HotSwap> disregard
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• 454[01:21:56] <gljoe> jelly well..i deal in facts...and the broken phone is hard evidence that there no such thing as a secure linux kernel....when the system apps is supports can easily be destroyed by malicious coders....these are simply factual observations of tangible products...not any kind of vaporware.
• 455[01:22:47] <HotSwap> there's no such thing as a completely secure anything :P
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• 458[01:23:19] <gljoe> no different than observing the tangilbe sun rotates around the earth about once per day
• 459[01:23:26] <petn-randall> gljoe: Still offtopic in this channel.
• 460[01:23:26] <gljoe> tangible
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• 462[01:23:41] <jelly> woshty: wow, that seems new
• 463[01:23:55] <woshty> jelly: nope
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• 468[01:25:25] <woshty> jelly: Has been in that form or similar for a really long time
• 469[01:25:37] <alesan> petn-randall, do you remmeber I was trying to build a package for pcscd etc last night? You gave me some instructionshow to do so
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• 475[01:26:33] <ben_> hi, i have a bcm43143 usb wifi dongle but can't get it to work. I enabled the non-free repos and installed firmware-brcm80211 which contains the required firmware. My issue is that debian never tries to actually load the firmware.
• 476[01:26:35] <jelly> woshty: eh, much like the jigdo recommendation and the fact torrents are often seeded from the very same cdimage host, I find it ridiculous
• 477[01:26:40] <ben_> my dmesg: replaced-url
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• 479[01:27:18] <ben_> compare this to replaced-url
• 480[01:27:38] <alesan> petn-randall, if I try to build the sid package wants to bring it also systemd and a lot of stuff... I was trying to see if the jessie package was good enough
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• 485[01:30:34] <woshty> jelly: Yes, and complicated for beginners. That should just be removed.
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• 547[01:51:30] <woshty> ben_: Have tried putting the firmware from the git in /lib/firmware/brcm and reloading the module? Have you tried manually reloading brcmfmac module?
• 548[01:52:03] <woshty> ^you
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• 550[01:52:15] <vagrant`> jelly Download CD/DVD images using HTTP or FTP... Due to space and
• 551[01:52:15] <vagrant`> bandwidth constraints, only very few mirrors are able to supply
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• 553[01:52:18] <vagrant`> direct HTTP/FTP download links. These sites may use bandwidth
• 554[01:52:20] <vagrant`> throttling, downloads can be quite slow. . DVD images are only
• 555[01:52:24] <vagrant`> available for some architectures and not on all mirrors.
• 556[01:52:31] <vagrant`> jelly replaced-url
• 557[01:52:51] <vagrant`> Download CD/DVD images with BitTorrent. The Bittorrent peer to peer system lets many users cooperatively download images at the same time, with minimal load on our servers. DVD images are only available for some architectures.
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• 559[01:53:47] <jelly> vagrant`: yeah, that's silly. Go get netinst from http and don't worry about it
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• 562[01:54:01] <ben_> woshty: installing firmware-brcm80211 provided me with /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43143-sdio.bin I just manually downloaded brcmfmac43143.bin from git and made sure permissions are the same as all the other files in brcm. I have not tried (re)loading the module.
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• 564[01:55:00] <jelly> vagrant`: the only time cdimage.d.o is visibly sluggish is right after a new major release
• 565[01:55:01] <vagrant`> jelly also I remember trying http and download estimates being about 5 hours for a DVD
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• 567[01:55:53] <ben_> woshty: just ran modprobe brcmfmac (and verified it's running with lsmod), reconnected the wifi usb dongle. still the same dmesg
• 568[01:56:11] <missmbob> it all depends on the mirror. use osuosl mirror for dvd and it'll fly, for example
• 569[01:56:12] <vagrant`> but anyway, i'm really interested in seeing if others have come across debian iso torrents whose checksum doesn't match. how common is this? does this mean the most popular debian torrents have been tampered with?
• 570[01:57:45] <woshty> ben_: It did get usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac as well after rmmod/modprobe
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• 572[01:58:08] <aypea[3]> netinst ftw
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• 577[01:59:39] <alesan> from 0 to 100, how bad is to just compile a software by hand and do a make install over the debian packaged stuff?
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• 580[01:59:42] <ben_> woshty: is that a statement or question? if it is the later, no I don't see/grep anything like this in dmesg
• 581[02:00:02] <somiaj> alesan: provided the make install scripts are sane that is just fine.
• 582[02:00:33] <somiaj> alesan: things to be aware of. Make sure make install doens't overwrite any debian stuff, debian stuff will all be in /usr while make install installs to /usr/local -- debian works just fine with stuff in /usr/local
• 583[02:00:57] <somiaj> alesan: putting stuff in /usr/local may conflict with debian stuff. So avoid doing this for core things the os depends on like say perl, python, etc
• 584[02:01:05] <alesan> somiaj, well but if I leave the debian stuff in /usr and then have my copy in /usr/local it will conflict
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• 587[02:01:15] <somiaj> alesan: you can use software such as stow to help manage stuff in /usr/local to make uninstalling said software easier.
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• 589[02:01:19] <woshty> ben_: what kernel version are you running?
• 590[02:01:58] <somiaj> alesan: if something uses a relative path, for example if you say compiled xterm, when you type 'xterm', /usr/local/bin/xterm will be the default, so this could have some issues. For most software it will be fine, for system level stuff, well different story
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• 592[02:02:04] <ben_> woshty: i am using jessie, 3.16
• 593[02:02:38] <alesan> OK I will try
• 594[02:02:45] <somiaj> alesan: there is also equivs to make dpkg thing you have something installed that is really in /usr/local -- lots of tools, just be aware of what you are doing, and realize anything you install this way, you are now in control of for upgrades, security issues, bug fixes.
• 595[02:02:57] <woshty> ben_: Too old ;)
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• 598[02:03:15] <woshty> ben_: replaced-url
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• 604[02:04:00] <woshty> ben_: na, nvm, says 3.7+
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• 607[02:04:17] <ben_> woshty: yup
• 608[02:04:35] <ben_> woshty: i certainly have the firmware... am I missing the driver?
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• 611[02:06:12] <woshty> ben_: my thought was that it could be too old to recognize the device ID
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• 613[02:06:58] <ben_> woshty: iirc i tried that thing on gentoo as well (kernel 4.something) with the same result
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• 623[02:12:28] <ben_> woshty: but if my computer shows no attempt to load the firmware, that means that the driver is missing/not working, correct?
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• 631[02:16:10] <somiaj> it could be the chip as a strange vendor id and the driver won't associate with it. This a usb device?
• 632[02:16:20] <somiaj> well strange vendor or device id
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• 634[02:17:02] <ben_> somiaj: jes, usb wifi dongle. in fact it is the "official" raspberry pi usb wifi dongle. i am testing it on my normal debian laptop install though
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• 637[02:18:00] <somiaj> can you see the device in lsusb, can you get the usbid from that?
• 638[02:18:15] <somiaj> I had a device I had to manually tell my machine the device id to assoicate with a driver.
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• 640[02:18:20] <somiaj> usb wifi dongle actually
• 641[02:18:50] <woshty> somiaj: He posted replaced-url
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• 643[02:19:39] <ben_> woshty: thanks
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• 647[02:20:51] <woshty> It lists the "correct" Device ID
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• 651[02:22:18] <somiaj> could be raspbian did something to include this usbid in the list of supported evices for the driver, there is a way to force this, but I forgot how, one second
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• 655[02:24:55] <ben_> somiaj: something like unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26132 ?
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• 657[02:25:37] <somiaj> that didn't have the answer I recall
• 658[02:25:43] <somiaj> replaced-url
• 659[02:25:46] <somiaj> something like that
• 660[02:25:58] <somiaj> echo $usbid > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/drivername/bind
• 661[02:26:33] <somiaj> i.e. there is a way to tell the dirver directly, hey use this device id
• 662[02:26:51] <somiaj> and can work in cases where the driver doesn't have the id in its configs and won't automatially attach to it
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• 671[02:34:23] <ben_> somiaj: i see there are various ways to do that kind of approach. Thank you very much for pointing that out. i will try it after i got some sleep :)
• 672[02:34:36] <ben_> woshty: thank you too for your effort and interest!
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• 678[02:37:43] <ben_> somiaj: FYI cat /lib/modules/<kernel>/modules.alias should show the current driver<->ID associations if I understood that correctly.
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• 682[02:39:02] <somiaj> I don't think any driver claimed that device
• 683[02:39:09] <somiaj> and I'm not sure on that, I didn't invesigate further
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• 687[02:41:14] <anarchyintheuk> i'm trying to compile mednaffe from source and i get this error. configure: error: Mednaffe needs GTK+ >= 3.4 development libraries what is the package name of the dependency?
• 688[02:42:06] <missmbob> ,v libgtk-3-dev
• 689[02:42:07] <judd> Package: libgtk-3-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.5-1+deb8u1; stretch: 3.22.11-1; sid: 3.22.12-1
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• 693[02:44:13] <ben_> somiaj: woshty thanks again. have a good day/night
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• 695[02:45:11] <anarchyintheuk> missbob, how do i tell what version is currently installed or if its installed at all? is there a pretend option for apt-get install?
• 696[02:45:36] <missmbob> you use dpkg -l libgtk-3-dev
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• 701[02:46:41] <missmbob> apt-get has -s "simulate"
• 702[02:46:50] <missmbob> man apt-get
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• 710[02:49:52] <anarchyintheuk> missbob, thanks, it appears to be working. now i just need to wait forever for these packages to download
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• 752[03:21:00] <anarchyintheuk> mednaffe depends on mednafen 0.9.41 but i can't find it in the repos. i have mednafen 0.9.36.4 installed
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• 760[03:35:57] <un214> how do I fix "local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.distrib clashes with diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.real by firefox-esr"
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• 791[03:59:03] <cmhobbs> is there a simple sound recorder in the repos? gnome-sound-record complains about my sound configuration, which seems to be working in every other application
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• 798[04:02:45] <dedserver2wo> hey.... this isn't really the right channel for this probably because it's not a debian specific issue
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• 800[04:03:15] <dedserver2wo> but why is my server connecting to 177.4.17.18 all the time?
• 801[04:03:22] <dedserver2wo> it should have a fresh install on it
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• 808[04:05:39] <El_Presidente> hi
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• 810[04:06:45] <El_Presidente> I'm on debian jessie and i have added testing repo with a lower pin priority to install apache2 for http2
• 811[04:07:27] <El_Presidente> when stretch is released, testing will be moved to the next distro right? so I will run into issues
• 812[04:07:46] <El_Presidente> can I change the repo now to "stetch" without problems?
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• 817[04:11:41] <somiaj> !don't break debian
• 818[04:11:42] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, dont break debian is replaced-url
• 819[04:11:52] <somiaj> El_Presidente: you do not want to mix jessie and testing (Even with pinning) and that is not supported here.
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• 822[04:12:18] <somiaj> but yes, use the code name if you don't want the link 'testing' to change at the release, same applies for 'stable', at the release that link will change.
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• 825[04:12:33] <El_Presidente> ok ty
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• 827[04:13:57] <w00dsman> !don't break debian
• 828[04:13:58] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, dont break debian is replaced-url
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• 841[04:18:58] <dedserver2wo> um
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• 865[04:46:05] <CRCinAU> Hi all. As a relative debian nubcake, is there a way to get a list of CVEs applicable to packages that have updates - but doesn't have them installed?
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• 867[04:47:46] <somiaj> replaced-url
• 868[04:48:34] <CRCinAU> I think the challenge is finding them from installed versions to the latest package....
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• 878[04:54:16] <somiaj> CRCinAU: you can do a -s (simulate) with apt, and get a list of upgradable pacakages and tghen use the tracker on that list
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• 882[04:54:36] <somiaj> you can also subscribe to the DSA or look over the DSA mailing list for packages that have vunlability upgrades
• 883[04:54:39] <somiaj> !dsa
• 884[04:54:39] <dpkg> [dsa] Debian Security Announcement, see replaced-url
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• 889[04:58:44] <CRCinAU> somiaj: thanks... I've been looking at debsecan... that seems to be pretty much what I need.
• 890[04:58:54] <CRCinAU> ie a list of problems that exist with packages that haven't been updated.
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• 1177[06:05:26] <hesperaux> hello. I am using an HDMI cable and can successfully use 4K@30Hz resolution; however, the EDID data doesn't show a 2K display mode (it jumps from 1920x1200@60 to 4K). Using display port, the 2K@60Hz mode does show up (I know the monitor can display it). Is there a way I can try forcing a 2K display mode over HDMI, or is this a limitation?
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• 1197[06:29:48] <Komanda8976> so i have a box with openmediavault (debian based) running as iscsi target
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• 1199[06:29:56] <Komanda8976> i would like to backup this thing
• 1200[06:30:18] <Komanda8976> i the webgui doesnt allow me to do that so i want to write my own script
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• 1202[06:31:15] <Komanda8976> i know the disk is /dev/sda
• 1203[06:31:33] <Komanda8976> and the iscsi lun stuff is supposedly just a file on that disk
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• 1205[06:31:51] <Komanda8976> how do i get to that file?
• 1206[06:31:52] <Komanda8976> cd /dev/sdb
• 1207[06:31:58] <Komanda8976> cd /dev/sda *
• 1208[06:32:03] <Komanda8976> -bash: cd: /dev/sda: Not a directory
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• 1229[06:45:39] <judd> No package named 'xserver-xorg-legacy' was found in jessie/amd64.
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• 1479[09:24:09] <mtcj> I have found that grep will match '"//foo/' for pattern '"/[A-Za-z]*/' (double slashes between double quote and alpha characters)
• 1480[09:24:31] <mtcj> May I have help fixing it to only match the single slash?
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• 1548[10:00:48] <gryffus> Hi folks, anyone here is booting Kali iso with grub? I am using this config: replaced-url
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• 1560[10:05:23] <towo^work> gryffus, wrong channel
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• 1562[10:06:21] <gryffus> towo^work: well, kali is a debian derivate and uses debian installer... So i thought that it is a general debian installer issue. But i may try to reproduce this with debian iso, if it is necessary
• 1563[10:06:35] <towo^work> gryffus, doesn't matter
• 1564[10:06:45] <petn-randall> !kali
• 1565[10:06:46] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
• 1566[10:06:51] <petn-randall> !based on debian
• 1567[10:06:52] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
• 1568[10:06:56] <petn-randall> gryffus: ^^^
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• 1570[10:07:15] <towo^work> gryffus, if it would be debian, it would be named as debian, not kali
• 1571[10:07:24] <gryffus> OK, i will reproduce it on debian any try later :)
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• 1597[10:21:06] <pingfloyd> debian > kali anyway
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• 1604[10:24:35] <Azrael_-> i've added the backports for jessie as repository. sometimes "apt-get update" offers me updates from bpo for packages although those packages aren't installed from bpo (according to "apt-cache policy <package>"). why could this be and how could i further analyze this?
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• 1615[10:27:52] <petn-randall> Azrael_-: Can you show us the command + output you are seeing? → replaced-url
• 1616[10:27:55] <uniTosch> show us all the commands you used and all the outputs. also the output of apt-cache policy and apt-get upgrade but without continuing when it asks you to.
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• 1632[10:34:09] <mtcj> Oops, left the #debian by mistake,
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• 1697[11:13:50] <domovoy> hi
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• 1706[11:18:40] <domovoy> i installed a package made for ubuntu (joliebulle), the only trouble was the versions of dependencies. Fixed it by "apt-get install" the versions from the debian repository, and "dpkg -i --force-depends-version". The package installed, and works well. Thing is, now everytime i try to "apt-get install" something, it won't work because of dependency problems, and suggest "apt-get -f install", which would remove joliebulle. How do i fix that?
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• 1711[11:21:53] <jelly> domovoy: don't use --force-depends, that breaks apt.
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• 1715[11:23:03] <jelly> domovoy: if the binaries in that package actually work for you, repack the .deb file with adapted/fixed control file
• 1716[11:23:53] <jelly> domovoy: basically: dpkg --extract foo.deb somedir/ && dpkg --control foo.deb somedir/ && edit somedir/DEBIAN/control && dpkg-deb -b somedir .
• 1717[11:24:31] <domovoy> jelly> ok, it's actually what i did last time i installed it, i just thought there was a way to tell apt/dpkg about this without rebuilding the package
• 1718[11:24:37] <domovoy> jelly> thanks
• 1719[11:25:20] <jelly> there isn't. Well, there's an even dirtier hack but I won't mention it in here :-)
• 1720[11:25:36] <petn-randall> Yikes
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• 1722[11:26:46] <jelly> petn-randall: let's just say dpkg's database, unlike rpm, is a text file
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• 1732[11:30:13] * GeMiNniS buenos dias
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• 1736[11:32:44] <domovoy> so, the package version in control is "3.6.0-0ubuntu1ppa1", how should i change it so that it works well for apt/dpkg on debian?
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• 1742[11:35:55] <petn-randall> domovoy: You have to fix its dependencies and their version numbers.
• 1743[11:36:51] <domovoy> petn-randall> done, but shouldn't i change the version too? (that is, if i want to distribute the package for debian)
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• 1750[11:39:31] <petn-randall> domovoy: Changing the dependencies doesn't automatically change the version number of the package in question. If you *package* a piece of software (using the source) you should of course bump the version number. But you're just hacking the binary package to fix apt for you.
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• 1756[11:41:20] <domovoy> petn-randall> ok, thanks
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• 1764[11:47:12] <ksk> hey Guys.
• 1765[11:48:18] <ksk> Hey. Is there some explanation or evalution on snap(d) from a debian point of view?
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• 1768[11:49:10] <petn-randall> ksk: AFAIK it's a Ubuntu-only thing, and the isolation only works with a patched apparmor, so I don't think it'll be in Debian any time soon.
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• 1771[11:49:47] <petn-randall> ksk: I'm just guessing though. Flatpak might have a better chance of landing in Debian, since it has broader support.
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• 1799[12:02:21] <ksk> petn-randall: its in testing and unstable, but this is indeed an interesting fact. thanks.
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• 1801[12:03:10] <ksk> wanted to try lxd. install ubuntu, or compile it from source. mmhhhm :D
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• 1810[12:05:01] <petn-randall> ksk: Indeed, I didn't notice that. I wonder how well it works, though.
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• 1813[12:05:13] <gryffus> Ok, i have reproduced my problem with Debian. I am booting debian ISO with grub with following configuration: replaced-url
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• 1815[12:05:39] <gryffus> s/but when/but
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• 1821[12:08:19] <gryffus> The right question should be: "Is it possible for debian installer to use an ISO stored on a NTFS filesystem instead of physical CDROM as installation source? And if so, how?"
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• 1834[12:14:16] <ksk> gryffus: the question would be more like, can you somehow mount that cd in a running debian installer? like switch to console, activiate it, do your thing, drive is mounted ad /cdrom or such a thing
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• 1836[12:14:30] <ksk> s/ad/at/
• 1837[12:14:57] <ksk> If you managed that I would assume there is a way to tell the installer "dont check cd automagicly, but use this path: $path"
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• 1839[12:15:41] <ksk> also, why NTFS :o
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• 1842[12:16:44] <gryffus> ksk: whan i try "mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt" i get "invalid argument" :(
• 1843[12:17:04] <gryffus> ksk: NTFS because it is the only partition with enough space
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• 1847[12:19:41] <mtcj> Generally speaking, how often can I repeat a question without being rude?
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• 1849[12:20:39] <gryffus> fdisk replaced-url
• 1850[12:20:51] <gryffus> s/fdisk/mount
• 1851[12:22:04] <coke> mtcj: 'you are you hitting yourself?' is rude the first time :]
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• 1858[12:23:47] <mtcj> Well I'd imagine people won't take issue if I repeat it tomorrow.
• 1859[12:23:50] <mtcj> Maybe.
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• 1862[12:25:51] <rephlexie> gryffus, there was a way to do that iirc. You installing from an iso locally?
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• 1865[12:27:00] <gryffus> rephlexie: yes
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• 1869[12:28:09] <rephlexie> gryffus, shot in the dark, but take a peek at debootstrap iso install.
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• 1875[12:29:34] <gryffus> rephlexie: this seems to be exactly my problem
• 1876[12:30:21] <ksk> mtcj: whats your question?
• 1877[12:30:32] <mtcj> I have found that grep will match '"//foo/' for pattern '"/[A-Za-z]*/' (double slashes between double quote and alpha characters)
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• 1879[12:30:42] <mtcj> I'd like to have it only match single slashes
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• 1881[12:30:54] <ksk> gryffus: invalid argument - sounds like you dont have "the ntfs stack" at installer time?
• 1882[12:31:01] <mtcj> I wasn't using additional options to grep
• 1883[12:31:16] <ksk> but you should be able to chroot into the mounted installer live-system and install stuff to make it work (did not use ntfs for a while)
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• 1885[12:31:53] <ksk> mtcj: better get over to #bash, get ready for some roughness and probably get a helpful answer ;)
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• 1887[12:32:20] <gryffus> ksk: is there a way to the ntfs or ntfs-3g kernel module to Debian installer ISO?
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• 1889[12:32:35] <gryffus> s/to the/to add the
• 1890[12:33:27] <ksk> modprobe nfts? :D
• 1891[12:34:35] <rephlexie> ksk, he tried that earlier I think. replaced-url
• 1892[12:35:18] <ksk> nonono. oh boi :D
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• 1894[12:35:51] <ksk> in that screenshot you are on your busybox. in busybox: mount - look for installer path (like /target/installer) - do a chroot /target/installer - do you modprobe there
• 1895[12:36:17] <ksk> eh, also do bindmounts for /proc and /dev into that mountpoint before you chroot.
• 1896[12:36:38] <Ticho> /sys also, just to be sure
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• 1898[12:36:55] <ksk> like "mount --bind /dev /target/installer/dev" and so on.
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• 1902[12:39:54] <Infra_3600> IMHO, ntfs-3g is a userspace driver
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• 1906[12:42:04] <ksk> I assumed loading a kernel module is the way to enable it, as I said I did not use nfts in linux for a long time ;)
• 1907[12:42:27] <gryffus> i do not have any /target/installer directory :(
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• 1911[12:43:06] <gryffus> ksk: replaced-url
• 1912[12:43:24] <ksk> did you see replaced-url
• 1913[12:43:26] <gryffus> and "find / | grep ntfs" outputs nothing
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• 1915[12:43:47] <gryffus> ksk: there seems to be no ntfs kernel module in debian installer iso
• 1916[12:44:10] <gryffus> or i mean, on the initrd (if i am in initrd, dunno)
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• 1920[12:46:30] <gryffus> i don't feel like rebuilding installation initrd to add ntfs module to it... :(
• 1921[12:46:46] <gryffus> strange is - grub is able to access ntfs, but debian installer is not?
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• 1923[12:47:24] <gryffus> Can grub mount the ntfs partition to the initrd? I guess not :(
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• 1938[12:55:37] <gryffus> ksk: are you sure that there should be a /target/installer on the installation initrd? because if i do "find / | grep '.ko'", only directory that has some kernel modules is /lib/modules and it has only "isofs", "vfat", and "fat" kernel modules...
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• 1940[12:56:54] <ksk> gryffus: make a screenshot of the mount command please
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• 1942[12:57:01] <ksk> eh, nevermind
• 1943[12:57:19] <ksk> if you cannot mount the iso it will not be mounted, and you only have the busybox which should indeed be from the initrd
• 1944[12:58:23] <ksk> and as ntfs is in userspace as Infra-3600 pointed out, it will be hard (not possible?) to put that into initrd imho
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• 1946[12:58:36] <ksk> dont you have a usbstick handy? :D
• 1947[12:58:40] <gryffus> ntfs-3g is userspace, ntfs is kernel module
• 1948[12:58:44] <gryffus> ksk: no :(
• 1949[12:58:54] <gryffus> ksk: Is there a way to add a kernel module (ntfs, ext3, ...) to a installation initrd?
• 1950[12:59:04] <ksk> wiki says ntfs is oold. dont know about it.
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• 1952[12:59:48] <ksk> yeah sure, there is this gunzip(extract) build new kernel + initrd by hand and cpio(pack again) initrd. put it on install media.
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• 1954[13:00:03] <ksk> not too easy though. you should be able to google it.
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• 1968[13:03:34] <gryffus> ksk: OR.... can i use the live system initrd and run installation from it?
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• 1972[13:05:06] <gryffus> hmm it does not have any live initrd ... nvm :(
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• 1977[13:06:25] <gryffus> ok just out of curiosity... What is the reasoning that debian installation is only able to access fat filesystem and no other?
• 1978[13:06:37] <gryffus> *behind
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• 1989[13:11:03] <ksk> I am not a 100% sure of the circumstances, but as I see it: grub can access ntfs, so it starts the kernel. the kernel cannot acces the ntfs, so it cannot access/mount the nfts-iso, and mount its userspace-parts. you are then dropped into a busybox(which comes from initrd, which is part of the kernel stage execution - like a "Little userspace part")
• 1990[13:11:41] <gryffus> ksk: yeah that is exactly what happens :)
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• 1994[13:12:20] <gryffus> live system is working
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• 1996[13:12:33] <gryffus> probably because the live system does have the modules in initrd
• 1997[13:12:39] <ksk> and the reason is that there is no ntfs as a kernel feature - afaik.
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• 2002[13:13:03] <ksk> dunno about that "ntfs" you refered to earlier, maybe its not used anymore?
• 2003[13:13:30] <gryffus> ksk: for sure, i already stated that only filesystem kernel modules available are "isofs", "vfat", and "fat"
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• 2007[13:14:08] <gryffus> i can move the iso to an ext3 partition, but ext3 module is also unavailable in the debian installer
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• 2010[13:14:39] <HD|Laptop> Hello all. Is there a way to get Samba 4.3 or lower on Debian Testing?
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• 2013[13:15:01] <HD|Laptop> I am trying to build winexe, which requires samba_util.h, which is not present in samba4.4+
• 2014[13:15:06] <ksk> HD|Laptop: if its not in the repository there realls is no "official" way to do that.
• 2015[13:15:13] <ksk> you did take a look at backports?
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• 2020[13:15:49] <ksk> whats winexe?
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• 2025[13:16:50] <HD|Laptop> without the need for ssh servers or anything on the Windows machine
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• 2078[13:50:31] <carlos> Hey I use debain jessie, I try install sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0 but i have an error :dpkg: error processing package libpango1.0-0:amd64 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: fontconfig libpango-1.0-0:amd64 libpangoft2-1.0-0:amd64 libpangocairo-1.0-0:amd64 libpangoxft-1.0-0:amd64 libpangox-1.0-0:amd64 libpango1.0-0:amd64
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• 2081[13:51:47] <Loacker> when is the new debian stable releasing?
• 2082[13:51:52] <Loacker> I am waiting for it desperately
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• 2087[13:54:40] <n4dir> the default answer: "when it's ready"
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• 2089[13:55:40] <gryffus> ksk: replaced-url
• 2090[13:56:09] <Loacker> n4dir, which will be around?
• 2091[13:56:43] <n4dir> I for one assume around june.
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• 2093[13:57:13] <n4dir> but i don't follow the actual state of release critical bugs. So it is a rather wild guess.
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• 2096[13:57:34] <n4dir> Loacker: installing the actual testing is not an option?
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• 2100[13:58:18] <Loacker> n4dir, if I install debian stable now, will I be able to smoothly upgrade to the new stable release without any issues?
• 2101[13:58:27] <Loacker> or do I need to re install it?
• 2102[13:58:46] <miroesq> I am sorry for the extremely long post, but I am trying to be as super precise as I can be with my issue.
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• 2104[13:58:55] <miroesq> I have a machine with two NIC cards, the eth0 (192.168.0.3) comes up first and routes normaly through my router and is assigned DNS 192.168.0.1 (which is my router) using DHCP the wlan0 (192.168.0.4) comes up about 30 seconds later and routes through an OpenVPN connection on my router and is assigned DNSs 209.222.18.218 and 209.222.18.222 through DHCP. When I check to see what my DNS settings are using cat /etc/resolv.conf I only get
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• 2106[13:59:02] <miroesq> 209.222.18.222. I read up on this issue and it seems that if Linux aquires DNS servers initially then acquires different DNS servers later, the former are replaced with the latter. My issue is that I want to access a local server ip 192.168.0.2 from both inside and outside the network without having to change from a local to a public IP addresses on my client machine. What I did is I changed the cname for a sub-domain which I own "1.
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• 2108[13:59:10] <miroesq> back to my router's public IP address and am able to access the 192.168.0.2 server fine from outside using the address "1.mydomain.com". To access the server from inside the network, I assigned a statis DNS in my router pointing "1.mydomain.com" to 192.168.0.2 and since all my local machines, save one, use my router 192.168.0.1 as their DNS server, I am able to access the server locally using the domain name "1.mydomain.com" The only
• 2109[13:59:18] <miroesq> access the server locally is the machine with two NICs even though I changed its /etc/hosts file to point "1.mydomain.com" to 192.168.0.2. If I were however, to change the DNS which my router assigns to the wlan0 on that machine from 209.222.18.218 and 209.222.18.222 to 192.168.0.1 then that machine is also able to access the server locally. Is there a way to either force my machine to use DNS 192.168.0.1 for all querries coming out
• 2110[13:59:27] <miroesq> 209.222.18.218 and 209.222.18.222 for all querries coming out of wlan0 or if not, is there anyway to accomplish what I want to do?
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• 2112[14:00:32] <n4dir> Loacker: i never hat much problems upgrading from one release to the next. Most of the times: none, and if there were any, i could resolve them quickly by asking here
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• 2114[14:01:07] <carlos> What is that somebody in an idea ?
• 2115[14:01:10] <n4dir> Loacker: the default recommendation is to read the release or upgrade notes. I never did it.
• 2116[14:01:13] <miroesq> FreddyP: I tried editing the hosts file, but that did not work for my issue. Just posted an extensive explanation of what the issue is as you were logging on
• 2117[14:01:18] <carlos> Errors were encountered while processing: fontconfig libpango-1.0-0:amd64 libpangoft2-1.0-0:amd64 libpangocairo-1.0-0:amd64 libpangoxft-1.0-0:amd64 libpangox-1.0-0:amd64 libpango1.0-0:amd6
• 2118[14:01:46] <carlos> when i try install libpango1.0-0
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• 2121[14:02:16] <Loacker> n4dir, ok so I can install the current one and just upgrade to new one once its released
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• 2123[14:02:37] <Loacker> n4dir, because linux mint and ubuntu and many other distros are really painful to upgrade (after 6 months release)
• 2124[14:02:42] <Loacker> it breaks many things
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• 2126[14:02:52] <n4dir> that is what i would do (on the other hand i also never had problems with testing or sid. Depends on your needs)
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• 2130[14:03:51] <n4dir> I think if you got graphic chips like Nvidia it adds an extra layer of work. But i ain't got experience with it.
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• 2133[14:04:07] <craniumslows> carlos I would try installing each of those individually
• 2134[14:04:13] <craniumslows> they'll probably tell you more specific errors
• 2135[14:04:16] <n4dir> to put it different: i only spoke about my experience.
• 2136[14:04:41] <n4dir> i just change the sources list, run apt-get update upgrade and dist-upgrade, and usually that was that.
• 2137[14:05:03] <Loacker> n4dir, but I heard stable is better because there is no need for maintainence
• 2138[14:05:18] <n4dir> Yeah, i think so too.
• 2139[14:06:16] <n4dir> Not sure what is better: install the actual stable and upgrade it to the next stable | or | install the actual testing and just let it become the next stable once it is released.
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• 2141[14:07:09] <n4dir> i for one wouldn't consider one option to be better than the other.
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• 2143[14:07:30] <n4dir> i said all i think of the subject. Wait for others, perhaps ask again. Good luck anyway.
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• 2145[14:08:21] <Loacker> n4dir, testing doesnt give you maintenance
• 2146[14:08:27] <Loacker> n4dir, ?
• 2147[14:08:38] <Loacker> maintenance headaches*
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• 2153[14:10:24] <n4dir> Well, yes it does. You have to update often, updates can break things. I didn't have much problems with breakage, but in general it can happen.
• 2154[14:10:49] <carlos> @craniumslows I try installing each of chose individually but not working
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• 2157[14:11:27] <carlos> When i run command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" I same error dpkg: error processing package libpangoft2-1.0-0:amd64 (--configure):
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• 2159[14:12:09] <_abc_> Can one inquire whether current debian ships with enabled by default rpcbind + nfs subsystems? As I asked years ago, in wheezy times, when this surprized me? Beucause the official reason is now out? ...
• 2160[14:12:13] <_abc_> ... replaced-url
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• 2166[14:13:47] * _abc_ does not think there is anyone out there who needs rpcbind+nfs enabled at live boot or install time, before configuring it manually and enabling it!
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• 2168[14:15:20] <craniumslows> @carlos have you installed all the dependencies for the package first? replaced-url
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• 2275[15:08:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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• 2285[15:14:52] <Alina-malina> what is the linux analog of "undelete.exe" utility in debian?
• 2286[15:15:02] <Alina-malina> i have a flash drive, i want to see what was previously deleted from it?
• 2287[15:15:13] <Mathisen> testdisk ?
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• 2290[15:16:07] <Alina-malina> i dont know, let me see it
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• 2292[15:17:29] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: There is no such thing.
• 2293[15:18:00] <Alina-malina> petn-randall, there is for windows, it recovers deleted files
• 2294[15:18:02] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: You can unmount the filesystem, and use one of the many recovery tools though that work by looking for certain file headers.
• 2295[15:18:12] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: I was referring to Debian.
• 2296[15:18:20] <Alina-malina> then how can i do that in linux?
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• 2303[15:20:36] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: What filesystem is the flash drive?
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• 2309[15:22:19] <BluesKaj> can anyone recommend a cups gui print app, there doesn't seem to be one in the menu or system settings
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• 2313[15:24:45] <BluesKaj> launching cups-client with dbus-launch errors with, No such file or directory, yet the app is installed on the system
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• 2319[15:27:38] <dcpc007> hi all, i'm on wheezy, i install vsftpd (2.3.5), and configured local_user + chroot. i got the first problem with chroot in vsftpd required a root not writable... Ok, i try a new test account, i put home read only, and i can't login, only LOGIN FAIL, but i'm sure of my password
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• 2340[15:39:45] <yossarianuk> hi - how do people deal with mdraid and the EFI partition using debian ?
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• 2342[15:40:57] <petn-randall> yossarianuk: In what sense?
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• 2346[15:43:55] <yossarianuk> sorry, i mean if I have an EFI partition (needed for UEFI) I cannot use mdraid on that
• 2347[15:44:26] <yossarianuk> i.e your computer cannot boot using an EFI partition in mdraid
• 2348[15:44:33] <yossarianuk> as the bios cannot read it
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• 2350[15:45:03] <petn-randall> yossarianuk: I'd not put the complete disk into mdraid, but only the large last partition.
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• 2355[15:46:32] <petn-randall> yossarianuk: Another approach would be to use meta-data format 1.0, which puts the superblock to the end of the block device. That shouldn't interfere with your BIOS.
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• 2358[15:48:56] <yossarianuk> petn-randall: i.e use meta-data 1.0 with the efi partition ?
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• 2360[15:49:38] <petn-randall> yossarianuk: You'd have to take care not to overwrite the superblock on formatting, but yes.
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• 2362[15:50:08] <petn-randall> yossarianuk: Do you have one huge mdraid spanning the complete disk, or do you have several mraids over partitions?
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• 2369[15:53:21] <yossarianuk> petn-randall: I have 3 raid partitions
• 2370[15:53:32] <yossarianuk> 1. efi 2. boot 3. rest (using LVM)
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• 2445[16:28:32] <jhutchins_wk> ,v network-manager
• 2446[16:28:33] <judd> Package: network-manager on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.4.0-10; jessie: 0.9.10.0-7; sid: 1.6.2-3; stretch: 1.6.2-3
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• 2475[16:41:54] <fredl> hey folks
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• 2479[16:42:36] <fredl> something I'm getting a bit cranky with... I actually have a habit of using ALT-F1...F4 for switching virtual workspaces
• 2480[16:42:50] <fredl> but ALT-F1 is also the activities overview
• 2481[16:43:18] <fredl> And it seems that whenever I overwrite that in the keyboard shortcuts, it works only once during that session
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• 2483[16:43:42] <fredl> After that it reverts back to the activities overview
• 2484[16:43:47] <greycat> Which desktop environment, or window manager, is this?
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• 2486[16:43:57] <fredl> GNOME 3 on Debian 8
• 2487[16:45:11] <fredl> I go in Setting -> Hardware -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Navigation and set the shortcut for 'Switch to Workspace 1'
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• 2539[17:15:07] <khalsa> hey
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• 2542[17:15:22] <khalsa> anyone there??
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• 2544[17:15:28] <greycat> !ask
• 2545[17:15:28] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
• 2546[17:16:08] <khalsa> help im running kali linux 2.0 anfd want to understND HOW HEXCHAT WORKS
• 2547[17:16:15] <greycat> !kali
• 2548[17:16:15] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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• 2550[17:16:39] <greycat> Also, there appears to be a #hexchat channel, so hexchat specific questions can go there.
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• 2553[17:16:47] <khalsa> thanks
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• 2593[17:33:05] <iwin_> hello
• 2594[17:33:07] <iwin_> i have questions
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• 2597[17:33:25] <at0m> iwin_: ask them!
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• 2601[17:33:53] <iwin_> at0m: well i'm pretty new, but i can't access my anonymous windows samba shares?
• 2602[17:33:58] <iwin_> it keeps asking for a password and it shouldnt
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• 2604[17:35:02] <greycat> Is Debian the client, or the server? What command are you running?
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• 2611[17:38:18] <iwin_> I click on home and chose browse and then find the computer that has the network share from there.
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• 2648[17:52:19] <dcpc007> hi, i need help to create a specific ssh config on debian 7 that worked on old serves
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• 2650[17:53:09] <dcpc007> i need to use a ssh key from a user X from srv1, to be connected as Y on srv2 (which has the X public key in its authorized_files)
• 2651[17:53:36] <dcpc007> it works on old servers, but can't make it works on my debian7
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• 2654[17:54:19] <at0m> i suppose you've named the file authorized_keys, not _files?
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• 2658[17:56:37] <dcpc007> yes :)
• 2659[17:56:54] <dcpc007> i debug with some ssh -vvv on both servers
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• 2661[17:57:33] <Azrael_-> dcpc007: could it be the algorithms are deprecated and perhaps disallowed?
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• 2664[17:57:47] <dcpc007> i used ssh-copy-id Z@srv-old and then now ssh-cop-id Y@srv2
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• 2666[17:58:02] <dcpc007> he ask me password of Y@srv2 and configure it
• 2667[17:58:12] <dcpc007> haaa i check .. not sure between dsa or rsa
• 2668[17:58:24] <jelly> dcpc007: do you have the private key identity file present on machine srv1?
• 2669[17:58:25] <Violinist> does anyone know how init.d scripts differ from dumbinit
• 2670[17:58:40] <dcpc007> it's id_rsa on the source serveur
• 2671[17:58:53] <dcpc007> yes on the source srv1 i have the whole pack :)
• 2672[17:58:58] <jelly> ~/.ssh/id_rsa is the default path, yeah
• 2673[17:58:59] <apt> jelly: okay
• 2674[17:59:10] <dcpc007> or srv-old and srv2 i have only athorized_keys and known_hosts
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• 2676[17:59:15] <jelly> apt: forget /.ssh/id_rsa
• 2677[17:59:15] <apt> jelly: i forgot /.ssh/id_rsa
• 2678[17:59:25] <jelly> dcpc007: how is srv-old relevant at all?
• 2679[17:59:32] <dcpc007> it works :)
• 2680[17:59:36] <jelly> what works?
• 2681[17:59:41] <jelly> <dcpc007> i need to use a ssh key from a user X from srv1, to be connected as Y on srv2 (which has the X public key in its authorized_files)
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• 2683[17:59:57] <jelly> this doesn't work. What works?
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• 2685[18:00:14] <dcpc007> i do : X@srv1$ rsync -av $file srv-old:/tmp/ and i have the file on srv-old
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• 2688[18:00:39] <dcpc007> i do X@srv1$ ssh srv-old --> i'm connected as Y on srv-old
• 2689[18:00:45] <jelly> dcpc007: which OS and release on srv2?
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• 2692[18:00:54] <dcpc007> srv1 and srv2 are debian7
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• 2697[18:01:20] <dcpc007> i remove the Y user in the sshd_config (was forbiden user on ssh before)
• 2698[18:01:26] <dcpc007> and reload ssh
• 2699[18:01:34] <greycat> Check permissions of the home directory and ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server. Check the SPELLING of the filename.
• 2700[18:01:46] <greycat> Oh god, you fucked with sshd_config.
• 2701[18:01:46] <dcpc007> i use ssh-copy-id
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• 2703[18:02:10] <greycat> If you touched sshd_config then there is a new infinity of possible problems you caused.
• 2704[18:02:11] <dcpc007> basic config is to forbid "local" users to use ssh
• 2705[18:02:12] <jelly> dcpc007: pastebin the output of X@srv1$ ssh -v Y@srv2
• 2706[18:02:16] <Violinist> sshd_config is nothing
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• 2708[18:02:29] <Violinist> i screw w it all the time
• 2709[18:02:31] <jelly> dcpc007: and also /etc/ssh/sshd_config from srv2
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• 2711[18:02:46] <dcpc007> yes i go pastebien
• 2712[18:02:49] <jelly> !paste
• 2713[18:02:49] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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• 2715[18:03:47] <jelly> dcpc007: and what greycat said, Y@srv2$ ls -ld ~ ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
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• 2717[18:04:32] <dcpc007> sshd_conigf replaced-url
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• 2719[18:04:57] <jelly> preferably everything in one paste if possible
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• 2721[18:05:20] <dcpc007> ssh -vvv : replaced-url
• 2722[18:05:26] <dcpc007> scuse it's big
• 2723[18:05:55] <greycat> client-side ssh -v rarely helps in debugging server-side auth rejections (by design), but sure, it was requested, so it's good to have it
• 2724[18:05:56] <dcpc007> real names for those tests : portfou@vld-portfou -> hubfou@vld-hubfou
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• 2729[18:07:10] * jelly did not ask for -vvv, just -v
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• 2731[18:07:22] <GNU\colossus> is there a PAM module in Debian that will allow me to use a "username:password" list (with salt+hashed passwords, but this isn't a strict requirement) in a plain text file? like pam_userdb, bith without the bdb involved.
• 2732[18:07:34] <jelly> just making sure it tries the expected keypair at all
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• 2735[18:09:05] <hanasaki> does jessie have snort? what repo?
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• 2737[18:09:24] <petn-randall> ,v snort
• 2738[18:09:25] <judd> Package: snort on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.9.2.2-3; sid: 2.9.7.0-5; stretch: 2.9.7.0-5
• 2739[18:09:27] <jelly> hanasaki: no
• 2740[18:09:31] <petn-randall> hanasaki: snort is not in jessie.
• 2741[18:09:48] <jhutchins_wk> It's not finding the private key.
• 2742[18:09:51] <hanasaki> was in prev version and now shows in stretch... what's the backround?
• 2743[18:10:06] <greycat> "what repo" is always the wrong question
• 2744[18:10:06] <greycat> It's either in jessie, or not.
• 2745[18:10:06] <greycat> ,v snort
• 2746[18:10:06] <dcpc007> oups .ssh ls --> replaced-url
• 2747[18:10:08] <judd> Package: snort on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.9.2.2-3; sid: 2.9.7.0-5; stretch: 2.9.7.0-5
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• 2750[18:10:41] <jelly> hanasaki: the (less useful) generic answer is "it was too buggy for inclusion at the time"
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• 2752[18:10:47] <dcpc007> ssh -v --> replaced-url
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• 2756[18:11:54] <greycat> dcpc007: the key (id_rsa) was offered, but not accepted by the server. You'll need to investigate on the server to see why.
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• 2758[18:12:35] <hanasaki> does squid in debian have support for icap and the https decode ? replaced-url
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• 2760[18:13:36] <petn-randall> hanasaki: You can check the version that Debian provides and check when this feature got introduced.
• 2761[18:13:40] <dcpc007> yes that's what i see, but don't know why
• 2762[18:13:43] <jelly> dcpc007: where are you providing the correct username for ssh?
• 2763[18:14:03] <dcpc007> he take the local user
• 2764[18:14:17] <dcpc007> that's surprised me, never see this config before
• 2765[18:14:25] <jelly> dcpc007: did you not say local and remote usernames were different?
• 2766[18:14:29] <dcpc007> yes
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• 2770[18:15:10] <jelly> so... you have to tell ssh client to use the correct username
• 2771[18:15:44] <setuid> Has anyone tried Queue-Mode "host" and/or "access"? I've tried both yesterday in measured tests, and neither have any time/speed impact on the time it takes to download updates. I set both access types (http/ftp) and host types (multiple mirrors). No effect.
• 2772[18:15:46] <jelly> dcpc007: ssh -v hubfou@vld-hubfou
• 2773[18:15:48] <GNU\colossus> ah. I was looking for libpam-pwdfile
• 2774[18:15:48] <setuid> ^^ replaced-url
• 2775[18:15:51] <dcpc007> portfou user connect on the second serveur (default with its login i think, which doesn't exit on taget host)
• 2776[18:16:06] <setuid> Is there another way, other than apt-fast, to speed up/parallelize apt-get downloads?
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• 2780[18:16:49] <jelly> setuid: keep a local mirror if feasible
• 2781[18:17:11] <setuid> jelly: we have one, but we have lots of machines being provisioned in parallel, but they all do serial apt-get updates
• 2782[18:17:41] <jelly> yes. apt isn't really optimized for anything (but correctness)
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• 2785[18:18:09] <setuid> I get that you have to fill the cache before dpkg can slip in and start installing, that's a serialized step, but populating the cache of packages, that can happen in parallel
• 2786[18:18:19] <setuid> esp. when you have hundreds of updates on a single host to pull
• 2787[18:18:40] <koollman> I had a setup a long time ago with a 'fake repo' served as nfs. I wonder if it would still work :)
• 2788[18:19:01] <koollman> it was pretty fast
• 2789[18:19:02] <jelly> setuid: there is a number of obvious and less obvious low hanging fruits, but it hasn't been done.
• 2790[18:19:53] <koollman> setuid: you can rather write a parallel download script
• 2791[18:20:11] <koollman> but yeah, it could be a rather easy feature
• 2792[18:20:19] <dcpc007> jelly: ssh -v hubfou@vld-hubfou --> replaced-url
• 2793[18:20:34] <setuid> I guess I could just throw it all into xargs with 'apt-get -fdu'
• 2794[18:20:41] <koollman> pretty much yes
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• 2797[18:21:02] <dcpc007> for apt you have apt-cacher-ng too ?
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• 2799[18:21:52] <jelly> setuid: this channel is primarily oriented to end users. If you want to volunteer your time making apt better, faster and stronger, developers are, I think, in #debian-apt on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org)
• 2800[18:22:56] <greycat> Better, faster, stronger, mooier.
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• 2803[18:23:31] * petn-randall wonders why snort 2.9.7 is even in stretch, it's EOL upstream.
• 2804[18:23:33] <koollman> well, it's already mooified. faster would be nice :)
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• 2806[18:23:39] <petn-randall> replaced-url
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• 2808[18:24:15] <greycat> stretch definitely froze before 2017/03
• 2809[18:24:37] * petn-randall goes to file a bug.
• 2810[18:24:51] <koollman> now I'm trying to remember what I did for my old debian setup with nfs. it could probably be upgraded
• 2811[18:25:06] <greycat> koollman: just mount /var/cache/apt/archives
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• 2813[18:25:15] <koollman> the trick was to bypass the download phase and directly extract from the repo
• 2814[18:25:21] <koollman> greycat: ah, yes, very probably something like that
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• 2818[18:25:52] <jelly> dcpc007: permissions seem sane-ish, I wonder if removing group write permission on ~ of the remote user would make any difference
• 2819[18:25:55] <koollman> you can read from remote so quickly nowadays ... the two steps don't make sense anymore :)
• 2820[18:26:07] <jelly> dcpc007: nothing obvious.
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• 2823[18:26:25] <dcpc007> he use group rights for shatring access
• 2824[18:26:41] <greycat> dcpc007: that's probably the problem, then.
• 2825[18:26:53] <jelly> dcpc007: does that stop you from trying?
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• 2827[18:27:18] <dcpc007> i can try
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• 2830[18:27:52] <jelly> just chmod g-w ~ no other changes
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• 2835[18:28:26] <dcpc007> ok exact !
• 2836[18:28:32] <dcpc007> ay .. little boring
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• 2842[18:30:01] <greycat> dcpc007: see also StrictModes in sshd_config(8)
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• 2847[18:30:59] <dcpc007> maybe not a real problem, i near only need a subfolder shared for delivery of new versions from dev
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• 2850[18:31:16] <dcpc007> i think it's ok if they can't write à root, but only in subbfolder
• 2851[18:31:19] <greycat> That sounds like a much better solution than changing StrictModes.
• 2852[18:31:22] <dcpc007> yes :)
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• 2857[18:33:03] <dcpc007> haaa stupid !
• 2858[18:33:13] <dcpc007> i was on the second server already :-((((((((
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• 2861[18:34:07] <dcpc007> ok works too :)
• 2862[18:35:35] <dcpc007> ok rsync script (with adding user in user@serve:/tmp) works too
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• 2872[18:35:40] <dcpc007> cooooooool thx guys
• 2873[18:35:52] <dcpc007> new server dpeolyement in 15 min !! looool short short !
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• 2877[18:36:44] <jhutchins_wk> dcpc007: So permissions change fixed it?
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• 2883[18:38:47] <dcpc007> yes
• 2884[18:38:57] <dcpc007> i read something on that
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• 2886[18:39:17] <jhutchins_wk> It's probably just .ssh that needs to not be group writable, not the whole home directory.
• 2887[18:39:23] <dcpc007> if group can write, they could too change the .ssh folder ... then not secure
• 2888[18:40:00] <dcpc007> if you have write righton a parent folder you can renmae a folder inside ... and create a new
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• 2892[18:41:18] <dcpc007> replaced-url
• 2893[18:41:25] <dcpc007> was in my nbookmarks !!!
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• 2895[18:41:39] <dcpc007> (bvut too many things in my bookmarks too : ) )
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• 2920[18:48:17] <jer0me> Hey there, running debian stable with latest 4.9bpo kernel on a macbook pro, I have some weird xhci bug that kills the whole hub making the mouse/kb unresponsive. Reboot doesn't help. I can still ssh to the machine. I tried the various mac update, resets to no avail. Any idea? It looks a lot like replaced-url
• 2921[18:48:23] <jer0me> bug/1668105
• 2922[18:48:49] <dcpc007> cool i continue on the prod deploiement now !
• 2923[18:49:02] <dcpc007> thx jelly and others !
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• 2933[18:53:29] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
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• 2935[18:53:30] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.25-1); stretch: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.18-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.9.18-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.88-1)
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• 2949[18:59:23] <jhutchins_wk> jer0me: Any chance you could try a different hub?
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• 2955[19:02:21] <jer0me> jhutchins_wk: internal hub actually
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• 2958[19:02:53] <jhutchins_wk> jer0me: What about the original 3.16?
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• 2963[19:05:29] <jer0me> jhutchins_wk: it doesn't support other systems I need. xhci seems buggy with even recent kernels. Too bad all internal devices are usb attached.
• 2964[19:05:46] <setuid> jelly: Are #debian on oftc and here linked up?
• 2965[19:06:00] <jer0me> jhutchins_wk: displayport in my case requires a recent kernel.
• 2966[19:06:02] <setuid> Nope, doesn't appear so
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• 2969[19:07:48] <jer0me> jhutchins_wk: I guess macs are weird beasts. I had no issues for the past 2 years though. Nowadays, it comes out of sleep on its own, usb sucks, ...
• 2970[19:09:54] <jer0me> I have some similar issues on a thinxpad, but limited to the one and only usb3 port.
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• 3047[19:43:00] <Pottee> Hi! I just installed debian, and I have internet access via USB tethering. I want to install Firmware-iwlwifi so that I can set up wlan0. Whenever I try to do apt-get install Firmware-iwlwifi it says "E: Unable to locate package Firmware-iwlwifi
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• 3049[19:43:42] <Pottee> Any tips on how to get it to install?
• 3050[19:44:09] <mtn> Pottee: caps matter. it is not F, but f
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• 3054[19:44:44] <Pottee> Yeah sorry, in typing on my mobile and it made it F. On the PC I'm typing f
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• 3058[19:47:08] <Pottee> It doesn't show on apt-cache search also
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• 3061[19:48:06] <n4dir> If you just installed your /etc/apt/sources.list does contain contrib and non-free (assuming firmware-iwlwifi is to be found there) ? Did you run apt-get update? Do you still have the CD entry in the sources list?
• 3062[19:49:08] <davidebeatrici_> Hi
• 3063[19:49:28] <davidebeatrici_> I have a fresh installation of Debian Stretch + KDE
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• 3067[19:49:55] <Pottee> I did edit the sources.list file. I can send a picture of that if you want to verify if everything is correct. For the CD entry I just put a # in front to comment it out
• 3068[19:50:06] <Pottee> And then did sudo apt-get update
• 3069[19:50:12] <davidebeatrici_> On a PC with an i5-4690, a MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X
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• 3073[19:50:49] <davidebeatrici_> Everything works fine, except the integrated graphics card, the Intel HD 4600
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• 3075[19:51:44] <davidebeatrici_> lspci -nn shows it as:
• 3076[19:51:45] <davidebeatrici_> 00:02.0 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06)
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• 3079[19:52:14] <davidebeatrici_> But xrandr detects only the AMD's outputs
• 3080[19:52:25] <n4dir> Pottee: sounds as if everything is correct. Posting the content of the sources.list won't hurt anyway, i guess (you can use the package pastebinit instead of a picture)
• 3081[19:52:46] <n4dir> can you install other packages?
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• 3086[19:54:24] <Pottee> @n4dir I'm not sure about other packages. Can you tell me some package that I might find on main instead of non free?
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• 3090[19:54:46] <n4dir> pastebinit
• 3091[19:55:05] <Pottee> Also I tried to install pastebinit but got the same error
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• 3093[19:55:19] <n4dir> ok. The bad news: i ran out of ideas.
• 3094[19:55:30] <n4dir> well: post your sources list
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• 3096[19:55:47] <Pottee> Yeah gimme a second
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• 3098[19:56:20] <n4dir> Pottee: or compare it with the following or the example at wiki.debian.org yourself
• 3099[19:56:24] <n4dir> !sources
• 3100[19:56:24] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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• 3105[19:57:14] <Pottee> replaced-url
• 3106[19:57:25] <n4dir> replaced-url
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• 3108[19:57:51] <Pottee> I'll change my sources.list to this and try
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• 3111[19:58:45] <n4dir> yup, that would have been my proposal. At first glance you only got security and such, but not the "main" (most important) line. Missing the correct term, sorry for that.
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• 3117[20:00:52] <Pottee> I'm sorry I'm not sure what you meant by that
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• 3119[20:01:25] <n4dir> I think this line is missing in your sources list:
• 3120[20:01:35] <n4dir> deb replaced-url
• 3121[20:01:45] <Pottee> Alright all try adding that
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• 3123[20:02:00] <n4dir> but do as you said: just copy/paste from the example in the wiki. save (safe?) bet.
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• 3125[20:02:20] <Pottee> Can't really copy paste from the wiki running on CLI no desktop
• 3126[20:03:10] <n4dir> I see. Damn it. Gimme a second
• 3127[20:03:40] <Pottee> No worries I can type it.
• 3128[20:04:41] <n4dir> let's make it minutes ...
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• 3130[20:04:55] <Pottee> No wait
• 3131[20:05:02] <Pottee> I got it
• 3132[20:05:09] <n4dir> whew. good.
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• 3135[20:06:16] <Pottee> Atleast pastebinit can be found
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• 3137[20:07:05] <Pottee> It's says for firmware-iwlwifi that it's obsolete or something but it's referenced by someother package
• 3138[20:07:28] <jhutchins_wk> ,v firmware-iwlwifi
• 3139[20:07:29] <judd> Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-2~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-2; sid/non-free: 20161130-2
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• 3142[20:07:52] <jhutchins_wk> Pottee: You need contrib & non-free - most firmware is non-free.
• 3143[20:08:24] <Pottee> Oh my, I forgot to add those two to the new source I added
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• 3147[20:09:44] <Pottee> It's installing now! Thanks a lot guys!
• 3148[20:10:20] <n4dir> cool.
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• 3150[20:10:37] <Pottee> Now to setup wlan0
• 3151[20:10:53] <ikus060> Hello, I own a Razer Mamba Chroma, I google a bit I see multiple different way to support it. But seriously. I just want to stop the led !
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• 3155[20:12:06] <jhutchins_wk> (That's a "gaming" mouse for those not inclined to google.)
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• 3168[20:17:09] <jhutchins_wk> ikus060: It's possible that you're the only one in the channel who has one.
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• 3170[20:17:22] <ikus060> jhutchins_wk: yep, very likely !
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• 3179[20:19:27] <davidebeatrici_> ikus060: No, you aren't!
• 3180[20:19:41] <davidebeatrici_> I have a Mamba Tournament Edition
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• 3187[20:21:05] <davidebeatrici_> I use replaced-url
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• 3192[20:23:01] <ikus060> davidebeatrici_: Any tought about the alternatives ? like razercfg ?
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• 3199[20:24:37] <davidebeatrici_> ikus060: I never tried razercfg, but Terrycain's driver is much better
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• 3201[20:24:58] <davidebeatrici_> Because it provides a daemon which interfaces with the frontend you want to use
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• 3206[20:26:32] <doublehp> how do i change the size of /dev/shm on testing ?
• 3207[20:26:34] <ikus060> davidebeatrici_: I don't know if the driver is better, but I dont very like the way it does the job. Using a kernel module with dkms
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• 3209[20:26:56] <davidebeatrici_> ikus060: Why?
• 3210[20:27:05] <ikus060> davidebeatrici_: Meaning for every new kernel, the driver need to recompile. I find it overkill. All of this can be done in userspace.
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• 3214[20:27:40] <davidebeatrici_> ikus060: Well... recompiling it takes less than 30 seconds
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• 3216[20:28:18] <ikus060> davidebeatrici_: I guess I will need to try both of them to make my mind ;)
• 3217[20:28:28] <davidebeatrici_> ikus060: Indeed
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• 3221[20:30:28] <Pottee> Uhm, alright I think I need a little more help. I have got wlan0 on ifconfig but I'm not sure how to really connect to my hotspot
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• 3225[20:30:45] <Pottee> Or any open networker
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• 3231[20:32:12] <francine> Hi
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• 3235[20:32:38] <francine> I'm missing the menu bar in a qemu-system-<arch> session/window ... why did you removed it?
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• 3259[20:51:01] <jhutchins_wk> !qemu
• 3260[20:51:01] <dpkg> QEMU is a fast PC emulator. replaced-url
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• 3269[20:55:09] <francine> jhutchins_wk: That doesn't answer my question
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• 3273[20:59:22] <jhutchins_wk> francine: Nope, it doesn't.
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• 3275[20:59:55] <jhutchins_wk> No help in the FAQ?
• 3276[21:00:54] <francine> No
• 3277[21:01:01] <francine> Only Debian removes the menu bar
• 3278[21:01:04] <francine> And I'd like to know why
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• 3291[21:05:15] <hexhaxtron> I'm trying to install Debian and everything goes well until installing GRUB. How should I install GRUB?
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• 3295[21:06:26] <Azrael_-> automatic installer or are you trying to do someting manually?
• 3296[21:07:38] <hexhaxtron> Azrael_-, I think it's automatic.
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• 3299[21:09:18] <jhutchins_wk> hexhaxtron: EFI?
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• 3304[21:11:04] <hexhaxtron> jhutchins_wk, I don't know...
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• 3307[21:12:16] <hexhaxtron> jhutchins_wk, what should I do? I still have the Debian install on the other screen.
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• 3316[21:15:56] <jhutchins_wk> What is happening that makes you think there's a problem?
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• 3319[21:18:10] <Murda> My debian box throws me into emerency mode :s
• 3320[21:19:02] <Murda> Can anymody assist me?
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• 3323[21:19:44] <hexhaxtron> jhutchins_wk, it says something like Failed: install grub on the harddisk
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• 3327[21:21:44] <Murda> =/
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• 3332[21:23:32] <mtn> hexhaxtron: are you installing from a live disk or from the netinstall iso?
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• 3338[21:26:53] <doublehp> Murda: you need to expand a bit; it always justifies with a few reasons
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• 3341[21:29:17] <jhutchins_wk> hexhaxtron: What hardware?
• 3342[21:30:17] <Murda> doublehp: First red line that appears in journalctl is: timed out waiting for device dev-disk
• 3343[21:30:36] <doublehp> reasonS
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• 3345[21:31:35] <doublehp> Murda: not going to insult you and ask a pastebin f logs (well, I could, via serial port and so); a picture or a movie could help if you are too lame to hand copy the most interesting lines; bed in 2mn.
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• 3347[21:31:56] <doublehp> Murda: no-one is going to answer you because you have not stated any clear question.
• 3348[21:32:12] <Murda> doublehp: Sorry
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• 3350[21:32:38] <Murda> doublehp: Just booting stops and ask me enter to enter root password for emergency
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• 3352[21:32:56] <Murda> doublehp: I want to get rid of it, cuz systeems seems to work fine
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• 3354[21:33:21] <doublehp> Murda: i don't have much time for you, but, if you really want IRC to help you, you need to expand, and be specific. Especially, is it a fresh install, or did it boot in the past, did you update kernel or initrd-tools ... are critical peaces of info
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• 3356[21:34:45] <Murda> doublehp: i had backup of this machine, and now im trying to restore it, harddrive is img file that i had previously made
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• 3358[21:35:12] <doublehp> does password work ?
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• 3360[21:35:21] <Murda> doublehp: yes
• 3361[21:35:26] <doublehp> means, you have your /
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• 3363[21:35:40] <doublehp> or, you have one / (maybe not the one you think)
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• 3372[21:36:11] <Murda> doublehp: / is like it should be, sames files as before backup
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• 3374[21:37:32] <doublehp> you messed up your devices, or your UUID, or your kernel arguments; too many possibilities, and i need to disconnect NOW. If noone likes you here, try #linux
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• 3377[21:38:17] <greycat> Murda: So, you rsync'ed (or equivalent) a root file system from one hard drive to another hard drive, after manually re-creating partitions and file systems?
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• 3380[21:38:52] <greycat> In that case, I would expect the problems are coming from anything that expects the old file system UUIDs, like /etc/fstab or /etc/md*
• 3381[21:39:15] <Murda> greycat: I checked UUID-s and they match
• 3382[21:39:39] <greycat> Find the error message, then. Tell us what's wrong.
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• 3384[21:40:15] <Murda> greycat: yea, wait a bit, im creating pastebin post
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• 3390[21:43:01] <Murda> greycat: replaced-url
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• 3392[21:43:10] <Murda> You prolly have to grep for failed
• 3393[21:43:31] <greycat> But what's the *error*?
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• 3398[21:44:36] * greycat scrolls slightly down from the top, slightly up from the bottom, and then gets bored
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• 3403[21:46:25] <Murda> greycat: First red line that appears is about Timed out waiting for device dev-disk
• 3404[21:47:06] <greycat> And you're *absolutely certain* that *every* line in fstab that has "auto" on it exists and is mountable in the new system?
• 3405[21:47:38] <greycat> And you couldn't find *any* other error messages that indicate what actually happened?
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• 3413[21:48:58] <Murda> greycat: yes im sure that everything exists
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• 3416[21:50:20] <greycat> wooledg:~$ locate dev-disk
• 3417[21:50:20] <greycat> wooledg:~$
• 3418[21:50:23] <greycat> Sorry, I've got nothin'.
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• 3421[21:51:32] <Murda> Didnt find anything
• 3422[21:51:53] <Murda> its seems to be easyer to do clean install
• 3423[21:51:59] <Murda> easier*
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• 3429[21:54:13] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 3432[21:55:41] <nickgaw> Hi, How with apt do I install all suggested packages with a download or configure apt to always do this?
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• 3435[21:56:12] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 3440[21:58:06] <Pro1> Hello boyz. I just re-installed debian but it looks like my resolution got stuck at 1024x768 for some weird reason? Also, I have just changed my GPU from GTX780 to GTX660ti and it seems like I can't have dual screens anymore? Never experienced any form of problem like this before, so where should I start search for problem?
• 3441[21:58:08] <Murda> will try
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• 3444[21:59:11] <acresearch> hello people, seems i cannot install ffmpeg on debian, (apt-get install ffmpeg) any help? why does it install in ubuntu but not debian?
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• 3446[21:59:21] <greycat> acresearch: which version of debian?
• 3447[21:59:43] <acresearch> latest 8.7
• 3448[21:59:59] <greycat> For jessie, you can either install libav, or you can add jessie-backports and install ffmpeg from jessie-backports.
• 3449[22:00:17] <greycat> !libav
• 3450[22:00:17] <dpkg> Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. Libav is a fork of <FFmpeg> and replaces it in the Debian 7 Wheezy and 8 Jessie releases. Multithreaded decoding is available since libav 4:0.7~rc1-1 (bug #575600); MP3 encoding support is available since libav 4:0.7.1-2 (bug #587904). replaced-url
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• 3452[22:01:15] <nickgaw> dpkg apt suggests
• 3453[22:01:15] <dpkg> nickgaw: wish i knew
• 3454[22:01:20] <acresearch> greycat: hmmm what is debian backports?
• 3455[22:01:26] <greycat> !jessie-backports
• 3456[22:01:26] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See replaced-url
• 3457[22:01:58] <nickgaw> dpkg bdo
• 3458[22:01:58] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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• 3464[22:03:24] <nickgaw> dpkg backport caveat
• 3465[22:03:24] <dpkg> Remember that in installing backports, you will be using an unusual configuration of packages that has not been tested as thoroughly as Debian stable and that newer packages have both newer features and newer bugs. Ask me about <version chasing>. Also note that you can't rely on backports to be patched quickly if vulnerabilities are discovered.
• 3466[22:03:33] <jhutchins_wk> Pro1: Sounds like it's falling back to the VESA driver. dmesg | less and /var/log/Xorg.0.log may provide some help. lspci -nn | grep -i vga will give you an eight character PCIID we can research.
• 3467[22:04:19] <ee> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] [1002:1313]
• 3468[22:04:19] <ee> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 Ti] [10de:1183] (rev a1)
• 3469[22:04:37] <Pro1> ops sent from wrong window
• 3470[22:04:53] <Pro1> but there is output for lspci
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• 3472[22:05:18] <nickgaw> dpkg version chasing
• 3473[22:05:18] <dpkg> A higher version number does not mean that it's better, just newer. Debian's <stable> release might not have the latest packages, but it has packages that have been tested and bugfixed; for selected packages, you can use backports.debian.org. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos. Ask me about <debian-backports>. Tell us what you're doing isn't just <sns syndrome>.
• 3474[22:05:42] <greycat> nickgaw: please /msg the bot if you're not trying to help someone else in the channel with the factoids
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• 3477[22:05:52] <jhutchins_wk> ,pciid 1002:1313
• 3478[22:05:54] <judd> [1002:1313] is 'Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
• 3479[22:06:12] <jhutchins_wk> ,pciid 10de:1183
• 3480[22:06:13] <judd> [10de:1183] is 'GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 Ti]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
• 3481[22:06:28] <acresearch> backports is a bit confusing for me? i will have to download and compile the software myself instead of using the apt-get install command?
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• 3483[22:06:42] <greycat> acresearch: Read the FIRST factoid that has a link to the instructions.
• 3484[22:06:48] <greycat> !jessie-backports
• 3485[22:06:48] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See replaced-url
• 3486[22:06:51] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 3489[22:07:12] <Pro1> GTX would be the one I wish to use
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• 3495[22:09:26] <jhutchins_wk> Pro1: I think the Ti cards tend to be a bit newer than the drivers available in Debian. You should check out the logs I mentioned earlier, check out the Nvidia driver page, and check out the Xorg Nvidia pages to see if the card is supported by an Xorg driver.
• 3496[22:09:34] <acresearch> greycat: the command deb is not working
• 3497[22:09:45] <greycat> It. Is. Not. A. Command.
• 3498[22:09:49] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 3500[22:10:03] <jhutchins_wk> Pro1: If you find dmesg entries about nv not finding a card, you'll probably need either the Nvidia drivers.
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• 3507[22:12:40] <Pro1> jhutchins_wk: Just checked dmesg and there was nothing about the gpu there.
• 3508[22:12:55] <Pro1> jhutchins_wk: Gonna check that log to
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• 3514[22:14:19] <Pro1> jhutchins_wk: I get the feeling I'm supposed to install DKMS?
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• 3516[22:15:00] <jhutchins_wk> Pro1: There should probably be something about the modeswitching module at least, and the cards should be recognized. Did you have something configured for either of the other cards?
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• 3522[22:15:43] <davidebeatrici_> I have a fresh installation of Debian Stretch + KDE, on a PC with an i5-4690, a MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X.
• 3523[22:15:43] <davidebeatrici_> Everything works fine, except the integrated graphics card, which is a Intel HD 4600.
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• 3525[22:15:49] <davidebeatrici_> lspci -nn shows it as:
• 3526[22:15:50] <davidebeatrici_> 19:51:46 00:02.0 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06)
• 3527[22:15:55] <davidebeatrici_> But xrandr detects only the AMD's outputs.
• 3528[22:15:58] <davidebeatrici_> Any ideas?
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• 3533[22:17:06] <davidebeatrici_> I have the options "intel_iommu=igfx_off" and "iommu=pt" enabled, since I will use VGA Passthrough with a Windows guest
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• 3535[22:17:30] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Hybrid graphics are a known rabbit hole of problems.
• 3536[22:17:44] <Pro1> jhutchins_wk: What does modeswitching module mean? Didn't configure anything before installation, nor after. However, I did install with a vga cable during installation. Gonna switch cable now and see if it matters.
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• 3538[22:18:05] <jhutchins_wk> ,pciid 8086:0412
• 3539[22:18:06] <judd> [8086:0412] is 'Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
• 3540[22:18:33] <greycat> The "modeswitching driver" is what many graphics chipsets use in stretch.
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• 3542[22:18:41] <greycat> err, "modesetting" isn't it?
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• 3545[22:19:00] <greycat> !modesetting
• 3546[22:19:00] <dpkg> Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. replaced-url
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• 3549[22:19:20] <jhutchins_wk> Pro1: Yes, Kernel Mode Setting = kms uses a kernel module as a layer between the hardware and the actual video driver.
• 3550[22:19:21] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: Yes
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• 3552[22:19:55] <davidebeatrici_> But shouldn't the graphic card show up as "VGA compatible controller"?
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• 3554[22:20:15] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Often not if there is no driver for it.
• 3555[22:20:28] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: Weird
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• 3557[22:20:34] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Note that the response from judd doesn't list graphics.
• 3558[22:20:46] <greycat> There are a few weird graphics devices that don't show up with "VGA" in lspci's output. I have no idea why. Probably to make our lives harder.
• 3559[22:21:10] <greycat> Take lspci and judd with a grain of salt.
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• 3563[22:23:09] <Pro1> Back from black. Switched cable but there was no light after I switched. Guess I need to restart my computerano first.
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• 3570[22:24:03] <Pro1> I have some stuff on download atm so can't restart either. We'll continue on this abit later if you're stil here.
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• 3573[22:25:08] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: I don't see anything wrong in dmesg
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• 3578[22:28:14] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: replaced-url
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• 3581[22:29:05] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: There are a few decent pages about hybrid graphics in linux. Your best bet is to just use the nvidia.
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• 3583[22:29:17] <jhutchins_wk> !hybrid graphics
• 3584[22:29:20] <davidebeatrici_> You mean the AMD?
• 3585[22:29:35] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Yeah, sorry, I always get them mixed up.
• 3586[22:29:38] <neilthereildeil> how can i autostart sshd at boot?
• 3587[22:29:41] <davidebeatrici_> No problem
• 3588[22:31:18] <jhutchins_wk> neilthereildeil: It should install that way. systemctl is used to enable/disable services in systemd. If that's not enabled yet, you'd use an init manager.
• 3589[22:31:43] <greycat> neilthereildeil: what makes you think it's *not* already starting at boot?
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• 3594[22:33:53] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: replaced-url
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• 3597[22:34:07] <davidebeatrici_> It says that firmware-linux-nonfree is needed
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• 3599[22:34:17] <davidebeatrici_> I'm going to install it and report back
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• 3601[22:35:26] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Good luck. It's likely to take more than just that.
• 3602[22:35:39] <neilthereildeil> ok, also i already have vncserver installed. how can i start that at boot?
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• 3604[22:35:53] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: I have a friend who has a Skylake system and KFedora.
• 3605[22:36:03] <davidebeatrici_> Everything works out of the box...
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• 3607[22:36:22] <jhutchins_wk> Fedora has different rules about licensing.
• 3608[22:36:36] <davidebeatrici_> Right.
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• 3616[22:39:39] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: Just rebooted, same problem
• 3617[22:39:46] <davidebeatrici_> firmware-linux-nonfree
• 3618[22:39:51] <davidebeatrici_> xrandr --listproviders
• 3619[22:40:00] <davidebeatrici_> Providers: number : 2
• 3620[22:40:00] <davidebeatrici_> Provider 0: id: 0xa2 cap: 0xf, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload, Sink Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 4 associated providers: 0 name:HAWAII @ pci:0000:01:00.0
• 3621[22:40:00] <davidebeatrici_> Provider 1: id: 0x45 cap: 0xf, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
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• 3626[22:41:32] * jhutchins_wk can't afford fancy new hardware with fancy new problems.
• 3627[22:41:49] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: Looks like progress to me.
• 3628[22:41:49] <davidebeatrici_> Oh, I found something else
• 3629[22:42:08] <davidebeatrici_> DRI_PRIME=0 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
• 3630[22:42:15] <davidebeatrici_> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD HAWAII (DRM 2.48.0 / 4.9.0-2-amd64, LLVM 3.9.1)
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• 3632[22:42:25] <davidebeatrici_> DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
• 3633[22:42:37] <davidebeatrici_> libGL error: Different GPU, but blitImage not implemented for this driver
• 3634[22:42:37] <davidebeatrici_> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
• 3635[22:42:37] <davidebeatrici_> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD HAWAII (DRM 2.48.0 / 4.9.0-2-amd64, LLVM 3.9.1)
• 3636[22:42:46] <jhutchins_wk> !paste
• 3637[22:42:46] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
• 3638[22:43:05] <davidebeatrici_> Oh, sorry
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• 3640[22:44:02] <jhutchins_wk> davidebeatrici_: You're lucky the bot's snoozing today, it's usually pretty harsh.
• 3641[22:44:03] <davidebeatrici_> replaced-url
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• 3649[22:48:14] <neilthereildeil> jhutchins_wk: how can i enable a service with systemctl? i dont even have that commad in my path
• 3650[22:48:42] <greycat> Then you are not on jessie, or you have removed systemd in favor of some other init system.
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• 3652[22:48:52] <greycat> Or you have utterly broken your PATH variable.
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• 3661[22:52:17] <neilthereildeil> greycat: im using Debian 7.11
• 3662[22:52:46] <greycat> Wheezy (debian 7) uses sysvinit, not systemd, by default.
• 3663[22:52:54] <neilthereildeil> oh
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• 3667[22:53:14] <neilthereildeil> greycat: how can i make sysvinit start vnc at boot?
• 3668[22:53:36] <greycat> Services are started at boot if a symlink to the service's init.d script exists with a leading "S" in /etc/rc2.d/ (or whatever run level you use)
• 3669[22:53:42] <greycat> ... in sysvinit.
• 3670[22:54:07] <greycat> If you installed a Debian package, it *should already* be set up that way.
• 3671[22:54:29] <neilthereildeil> i dont think VNC debian package sets it up like that by default
• 3672[22:54:37] <greycat> If this is a thing you installed manually from non-Debian sources, then you may have to find or create an init.d script and drop it in place and set up the symlinks.
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• 3675[22:55:41] <jhutchins_wk> systemctl enable sshd.service ln -s '/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/sshd.service'
• 3676[22:55:51] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: he. is. on. wheezy.
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• 3678[22:56:04] <greycat> Also he changed it from sshd to vnc.
• 3679[22:56:17] <neilthereildeil> ok im following these steps: replaced-url
• 3680[22:56:28] <neilthereildeil> its sys-v init steps
• 3681[22:56:31] <neilthereildeil> this should work for me right?
• 3682[22:56:52] <greycat> Yes, but why is it *necessary*? What did you do that prevented the package from working as expected in the first place?
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• 3687[22:57:33] <neilthereildeil> nothing, but i dont see VNCserver start at boot
• 3688[22:57:46] <neilthereildeil> is there a way i can configure vncserver to start without manually modifying these scripts?
• 3689[22:57:51] <greycat> But "/etc/init.d/somethingvnc start" made it go?
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• 3691[22:58:00] <greycat> How did you make it go?
• 3692[22:58:01] <neilthereildeil> no, i just ran vncserver
• 3693[22:58:12] <greycat> What boot script came with the package? dpkg -L packagename | grep -F init.d
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• 3704[23:02:51] <neilthereildeil> "dpkg -L tightvncserver | grep -F init.d" gives no output
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• 3707[23:03:52] <missmbob> read /usr/share/doc/tightvncserver/README.inetd
• 3708[23:03:59] <davidebeatrici_> jhutchins_wk: Any ideas?
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• 3724[23:10:40] <ricdnts> does anyone know where i can put a MOTD in my system ?
• 3725[23:10:51] <jrtc27> /etc/motd?
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• 3727[23:11:12] <ricdnts> i will try
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• 3729[23:11:21] <ricdnts> thks
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• 3749[23:20:36] <janpo> hey guys this is neilthereildeil from another machine
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• 3751[23:20:50] <janpo> so vncserver didnt start automatically when i just rebooted debian
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• 3755[23:21:18] <janpo> i folowed the iunstructions at the link i pastd earlier
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• 3759[23:22:04] <janpo> any ideas what i might be doing wrong?
• 3760[23:22:07] <missmbob> 16:03 < missmbob> read /usr/share/doc/tightvncserver/README.inetd
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• 3787[23:28:41] <janpo> so he only user who should be able to run VNCserver is nonroot
• 3788[23:28:49] <janpo> could that be my problem?
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• 3808[23:41:22] <janpo> any oher ideas?
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• 3814[23:43:51] <ebol4> janpo: what user are you starting vncserver as?
• 3815[23:45:20] <janpo> neil, i think
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• 3817[23:45:42] <ebol4> is it currently running? `ps aux | grep vnc`
• 3818[23:45:43] <janpo> in my script, i have "su neil -c vncserver"
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• 3820[23:46:39] <janpo> no its not running
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• 3824[23:49:07] <janpo> it was never started, so i dont see it runing
• 3825[23:49:17] <ebol4> i'm not sure how running vncserver on boot really makes sense
• 3826[23:49:38] <ebol4> like, if you booted
• 3827[23:49:41] <ebol4> vncserver starts
• 3828[23:49:50] <ebol4> what would be displayed if you were to connect to vncserver
• 3829[23:50:00] <janpo> the desktop
• 3830[23:50:05] <ebol4> but you haven't logged in
• 3831[23:50:19] <janpo> id have to provide user credentials to vncviewer
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• 3833[23:50:38] <ebol4> that's just to access vnc though, not start a desktop session on the remote host
• 3834[23:50:47] <janpo> yea thats fine
• 3835[23:51:00] <janpo> i just wanna be able to login remotely
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