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0 [00:00:28] <cef> ForceRecon: yeah.. most distros plan names quite early.. like multiple version names get chosen in advance.
1 [00:00:39] <ForceRecon> petn-randall: replaced-url
2 [00:01:03] <ForceRecon> Apr 26, 2015 Development started Completed
3 [00:01:47] <n4dir> As soon stable is released, the development for the next stable starts.
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9 [00:07:41] <ForceRecon> almost time to reboot and see debian in action on the laptop.. whew.. scary..
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11 [00:08:03] <ForceRecon> then rebuild by tomorrow morning with access via rdp and irc
12 [00:08:16] <ForceRecon> old laptop.. takes time.
13 [00:08:45] <NapoleonWils0n> be afraid be very afraid
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15 [00:09:12] <shadoxx> Never be afraid, be willing to leap into action when things don't go the way you're expecting or wanting them to
16 [00:09:23] <shadoxx> It's just ones and zeros!
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18 [00:09:56] <NapoleonWils0n> as long as you have your tin foil hat on your should be fine
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21 [00:10:45] <NapoleonWils0n> i have been using freebsd and zfs is awesome
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25 [00:11:25] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
26 [00:11:29] <ForceRecon> not bad..
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28 [00:12:11] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
29 [00:12:17] <ForceRecon> any issues you can see at this point
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33 [00:13:54] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: Usually people come here with a problem and show us data. Not show us data and look for a problem. :)
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36 [00:14:49] <ForceRecon> well maybe they should :)
37 [00:14:57] <ForceRecon> jk.. I understand
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39 [00:15:21] <jhutchins> andai: Have you compiled software before?
40 [00:15:28] <jhutchins> Gah, buffer.
41 [00:15:51] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: You don't have to wait for stretch, btw. We've already got the jessie release which is stable and well-tested!
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45 [00:17:39] <ForceRecon> I downloaded the lastest release as specified earlier.. burnt a dvd live image.. gonna reboot once I finish with my class online regarding inbound and outboun filtering isolation on the network and transport layer port protocol and address using ip tables.. with custom firmware.. change the channel marge!
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59 [00:26:37] <andai> jhutchins yeah, a couple times. Though I tend to avoid it whenever I can, especially when tired/drunk/been meaning to reinstall to a distro which has what I want in the packages ;)
60 [00:27:07] <andai> jhutchins although that's not strictly true (tigervnc is in latest debian packages but not Ubuntu's)
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90 [00:46:26] <andai> if i install a package with a large dependecy tree, then remove the main package, do the dependecies stay installed? does autoremove remove all of them?
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92 [00:46:49] <andai> i notice when i remove a package it says less space will be freed than the space it said was necessary to install it
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95 [00:47:19] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm having some trouble with an intel hd630 integrated gpu, past the boot screen of the debian installer I run into a black screen. Any ideas on what the issue could be? The hardware should be fine, as a windows installation is functioning on it.
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102 [00:48:31] <petn-randall> andai: Correct, if you only remove the package, the dependencies don't automatically get removed. That is what autoremove is for.
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109 [00:51:25] <andai> petn-randall thx
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112 [00:52:57] <andai> sweet, switching from tightvnc to tigervnc solved my weird keyboard problems. Now let's see if i can do "xdotool" as well :D
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115 [00:54:30] <SuperTramp83> KaffeeJunky123, try 'nomodeset'
116 [00:54:32] <SuperTramp83> replaced-url
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119 [00:55:13] <andai> aaaand it works! sweet
120 [00:55:21] <KaffeeJunky123> SuperTramp83: thanks a bunch, I will try
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122 [00:55:33] <SuperTramp83> yw!
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148 [01:08:09] <bkeys> How do I open a port in debian?
149 [01:08:18] <bkeys> Lets say I need to open port 5000
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157 [01:13:00] <petemc> bkeys: nothing should be blocking access to it by default so run something that listens on that port
158 [01:13:16] <jushur> bkeys: firewall enabled?
159 [01:13:17] <bkeys> I do and I get a "Connection refused" error
160 [01:13:51] <bkeys> Is there a firewall installed by default?
161 [01:13:58] <petemc> no
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163 [01:14:24] <petemc> is that machine you're trying to access it from on same network segment?
164 [01:14:36] <petemc> lsof -i :5000
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166 [01:15:15] <petemc> as root
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168 [01:15:38] <bkeys> Is this on the my workstation or on the computer I am connecting to?
169 [01:15:41] <bkeys> Both are on the same LAN
170 [01:16:08] <petemc> which one do you expect to have something listening on port 5000 ?
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172 [01:16:19] <bkeys> One I am connecting to
173 [01:16:48] <bkeys> python3 11030 pi 4u IPv4 50500 0t0 TCP localhost:5000 (LISTEN)
174 [01:16:50] <bkeys> That looks about right
175 [01:17:05] <petemc> no, it says localhost
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178 [01:17:56] <bkeys> Yeah that makes sense since I ran the command on the computer that is listening on that port
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180 [01:18:28] <petemc> localhost means you wont be able to access it from other machines on the lan
181 [01:18:53] <bkeys> Hmm, how do I change that?
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184 [01:20:46] <beastwick> this might be a dumb question, but... I run both Debian and Fedora. Debian on my main rig and Fedora on my laptop. Can I compile a Fedora kernel and prepare it in an RPM on Debian? I want to use my quad core...
185 [01:21:18] <beastwick> or just compile a vanilla kernel and package it in an RPM?
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192 [01:24:36] <bkeys> beastwick: Sounds like you might want a hypervisor
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195 [01:26:39] <beastwick> nah, no virtualization, I was just hoping I could compile a Fedora-ized kernel on my Debian box.
196 [01:26:40] <somiaj> beastwick: you maybe able to put fedora in a chroot on your debian machine, and build it inside the chroot with fedora build tools and libaries.
197 [01:26:50] <beastwick> that... sounds interesting
198 [01:26:55] <somiaj> I use chroots to build a lot, never done a non debian distro with it though.
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200 [01:27:14] <beastwick> let me see if Fedora has some docs about chroot installs
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202 [01:28:16] <beastwick> somiaj replaced-url
203 [01:28:20] <bkeys> Perhaps Docker would be a good solution as well?
204 [01:28:34] <beastwick> bkeys that actually uses a docker image hah!
205 [01:28:35] <somiaj> for building chroot is sufficent and doesn't need extra tools.
206 [01:28:51] <somiaj> but I guess if you have docker setup and just need an image, no need to build a chroot
207 [01:28:56] <beastwick> oh you mean setup docker in debian and spin up a Fedora instance I guess?
208 [01:29:04] <beastwick> not entirely sure how docker works
209 [01:29:21] <somiaj> a chroot should be fine
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214 [01:31:51] <bean9916_> Anyone know what's going on with intel's ME vulnerability?
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219 [01:33:10] <kankusht> good evening
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224 [01:34:07] <bkeys> Does anyone know why my thing is listening on localhost and how to make it accessible to other things on my LAN?
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226 [01:34:28] <kankusht> how can I update libreofice on debian?
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228 [01:34:39] <somiaj> bkeys: my thing? I must have missed something.
229 [01:34:46] <somiaj> kankusht: are you running debian jessie?
230 [01:34:51] <kankusht> yes
231 [01:35:00] <somiaj> you can get a newer version from jessie-backports
232 [01:35:02] <somiaj> ,v libreoffice
233 [01:35:03] <judd> Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u9; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u5; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u6~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 1:5.2.6-2~bpo8+1; sid: 1:5.2.6-2; stretch: 1:5.2.6-2; experimental: 1:5.3.2-1
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235 [01:35:50] <bkeys> somiaj: replaced-url
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238 [01:36:48] <somiaj> what command are you using to open the port?
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240 [01:37:01] <kankusht> ok, I'll give it a try, I'm new with debian :(
241 [01:37:03] <bkeys> None so far; that is what I am trying to figure out
242 [01:37:11] <somiaj> !tell kankusht about jessie-backports
243 [01:37:44] <somiaj> kankusht: the bot sent you some info on what to add to your sources.list, then apt-get update, and finaly apt-get -t jessie-backports install libreoffice
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245 [01:38:18] <somiaj> bkeys: oh you are trying to figure out what opened port 5000? I thought you were trying to open this port and could only get it on local host
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247 [01:38:38] <somiaj> bkeys: as for opening a port, kinda depends on what you mean. Programing langauges should provdie a libary for this.
248 [01:38:55] <bkeys> I am running a flask server on port 5000
249 [01:39:10] <bkeys> There is a config.py file but it specifies the address as 127.0.0.1
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251 [01:39:20] <somiaj> so change the address to your outside ip
252 [01:39:38] <somiaj> seems you need to configure that piece of software to open the port in the correct location
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254 [01:40:01] <somiaj> depending on the software it may require you actually specify the ip, should read up on flasks config.py options.
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261 [01:43:29] <bkeys> Yay that fixed it; thanks
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264 [01:44:15] <kankusht> Does anyone know a book that helps me to know more about debian?
265 [01:44:43] <somiaj> replaced-url
266 [01:44:59] <kankusht> thank you very much
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298 [02:03:16] <beastwick> so I installed docker on debian, but I want to do is grab the latest docker fedora image
299 [02:03:23] <beastwick> all I want*
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303 [02:03:54] <beastwick> docker pull fedora ? I just want the current image though... I found an FTP host, but only of F24
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329 [02:16:08] <forcerecon> okay.. I am back
330 [02:16:14] <forcerecon> debian is installed
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332 [02:16:28] <beastwick> congrats!
333 [02:16:31] <forcerecon> can't figure out why installing things from terminal can't find anything
334 [02:16:44] <beastwick> i will cease asking for help here, looking thru docker docks now
335 [02:16:53] <somiaj> forcerecon: can you paste the output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net
336 [02:17:13] <forcerecon> oithis is my first time with debian but I managed to get on xchat properly but I don't know if I am passing authenticato
337 [02:17:36] <forcerecon> I was trying to install hexchat
338 [02:17:43] <forcerecon> sudo apt-get install hexchat
339 [02:17:50] <forcerecon> am I incorrect in my spelling
340 [02:17:57] <forcerecon> program name
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342 [02:18:19] <forcerecon> I tried to look for it in synaptic but it does not show up there either
343 [02:18:26] <somiaj> ,v hexchat
344 [02:18:27] <judd> Package: hexchat on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2.12.4-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2.12.4-2; stretch: 2.12.4-2
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347 [02:18:43] <somiaj> forcerecon: can you please paste the output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net
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357 [02:20:40] <beastwick> holy sh@# docker is incredible
358 [02:20:56] <forcerecon> replaced-url
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363 [02:22:07] <forcerecon> somiaj, is that what you needed >
364 [02:22:08] <somiaj> forcerecon: your sources only contain the cdrom you installed from and dropbox. YOu will want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, remove/comment out the cdrom sources and then add the following three items
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366 [02:22:13] <somiaj> !jessie sources.list
367 [02:22:13] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
368 [02:22:29] <somiaj> it looks like you will want to append contrib and non-free to main at the end from what the bot said.
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370 [02:23:30] <forcerecon> and the learning begins,, :) I think I can do this
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373 [02:25:00] <forcerecon> I need a shower first.. but thanks for the information.. bbiab
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377 [02:28:04] <forcerecon> any chance I could get a copy and paste for this to hastebin so I can just edit the file and make sure I have the proper items in the sources.list
378 [02:28:36] <dvs> !tell forcerecon about jessie sources.list
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380 [02:34:06] <dezerializer> exit
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382 [02:34:55] <forcerecon> got it
383 [02:35:00] <forcerecon> will add in a bit
384 [02:35:01] <forcerecon> thanks
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392 [02:39:54] <beastwick> hang on a sec
393 [02:40:11] <beastwick> can I do this chroot voodoo to install and use testing/unstable packages?
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419 [03:01:33] <beastwick> great chroot worked!
420 [03:01:34] <beastwick> thanks guys!
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471 [03:29:43] <brian|lfs> wow I"m in shock that I read Debian 9 will not have UEFI support
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473 [03:29:59] <dvs> ???
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484 [03:33:37] <abrotman> dpkg: confuse brian|lfs
485 [03:33:37] <dpkg> Yes, where is our bacon tomorrow, brian|lfs? Wellies of the Monarchy of Tibet with extra anchovies.
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494 [03:38:46] <chatter29> hey guys
495 [03:38:50] <chatter29> allah is doing
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501 [03:39:52] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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509 [03:44:00] <brasil2100> algum brasilieiro por aqui
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513 [03:45:51] <watersj> anyone doing passthrough video cards w/kvm guests?
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516 [03:46:42] <brasil2100> boa oite
517 [03:46:52] <brasil2100> boa noite
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520 [03:47:49] <brasil2100> alguem pode me ajudar
521 [03:49:09] <abrotman> !br
522 [03:49:09] <dpkg> Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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547 [04:04:47] <xobefa> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly television JPT Putti JonathanD tristero Cabanossi WinstonSmith dirtyroshi MDA2 alxd Cronus paulgrmn1 DzAirmaX dave4925 andatche johefernan raynold kooldavi LV-426 gb00s OtsoaUnLoco tytel TomTomTo1 potus blaman verc TuxShells MoDaX Harkj masber _foldLeft BuildTheRobots elkalamar karakedi sphenxes kobain Robby yokel SugoiBeans tripkin cruncher AntiSpamMeta fyr
548 [04:04:47] <xobefa> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly Vorpal yianni __C_P__ ryan`c Amun_Ra forcerecon sveva65_ dirac1 eblip sjk femto_ cdown ArchDuke serban xiaodong Shock_ wafflejock vonsyd0w spacebug^ MaxLanar fstd benklop pipeep kirin_v de-facto degenerate stealthii pingfloyd jasonwc Yondering KjetilK_ thunderrd_ JustTheDoctor sobkas RaiNerTsuFal dvs eki davimore n1ck3 beastwick BlackFox xcin seekr kever_ pr
549 [04:04:47] <xobefa> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly githogori ChmEarl Darby tikun bertbob _Vi AndrewMC q6AA4FD aaro smidlers f1nch_ dayten cyphix yeticry tsglove Almtesh lsv_ Pr0t3us Sir_Designer Colti syco_ Mad_Hat sz0 krytarik kupi shtirlic Lady_Aleena internot Deific Bent0 Guest51121 fyxx Ralin3 exezin Emmanuel_Chanel vectr0n|cloud pawalls flyingkiwi Delta-One Quick_Wango faw Bercik soop frankie koltrast H
550 [04:04:48] <xobefa> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly UUID01 __builtin jgoohu somepoortech Alam_Squeeze andai hsiktas soahccc redd SwK jon_x1111112 shabius Aim_Here Canucktux Strife89 dpkg yaymuffins k^ macrobat x42 mactimes autofsckk Zauberfisch_ XSoul Ekchuan_ Hobbyboy eb0t barteks2x Gabemo johnnyfive ajp blueness zupzupper maurostorch replaced-url
551 [04:04:48] <xobefa> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly MyIgel Janhouse Arroyo1010 kolla jeddi xet7 perserva Kruppt CissWit altyr moss fors xobefa olegfusion electrostat Mahe Cy-GorWork Devastator lethu Gurty Walex mithrandeer vutral_ mzf jakew LostSoul [red]claw mingdao safder Urchin[emacs] lankanmon Atramentous mdorenka cronic grift RickXy dsfox2 waynr Junaos chrisa Orphis electro33 SuperSeriousCat Trieste Lean
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561 [04:10:09] <id10t> hey, if there are any debian devs here, i'd just like to say thank you. i'm in the middle of experiencing the mess that the default apache24 config setup is in freebsd...
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566 [04:11:07] <co> [global] freenode oper grumble has been compromised, please come to #freenode for help immediately. jelly television JPT Putti JonathanD tristero Cabanossi WinstonSmith dirtyroshi MDA2 alxd Cronus paulgrmn1 DzAirmaX dave4925 andatche johefernan raynold kooldavi LV-426 gb00s OtsoaUnLoco tytel TomTomTo1 potus blaman verc TuxShells MoDaX Harkj masber _foldLeft BuildTheRobots elkalamar karakedi sphenxes kobain Robby yokel SugoiBeans tripkin cruncher AntiSpamMeta fyrril
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570 [04:11:33] <dave4925> lol
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578 [04:14:25] <Robby> thats a fuckin tryhard right there
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581 [04:16:01] <Cronus> quite
582 [04:16:13] <Robby> ohai Cronus!
583 [04:16:17] <Cronus> oh god
584 [04:16:18] <Cronus> its you
585 [04:16:23] <Robby> yes, and its you too
586 [04:16:34] <Cronus> and its you!
587 [04:16:38] <Robby> its us!
588 [04:16:45] <Cronus> i know a guy named Robby` on here, i guess he can blame that on you
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590 [04:17:19] <Robby> or me on him!
591 [04:17:37] <Cronus> im enjoying freenode
592 [04:17:40] <Cronus> all these ip's i get to dnsbl
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595 [04:18:44] <Robby> :D
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598 [04:18:58] <Robby> yeah, at least they're not cloaked here
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603 [04:22:38] <brian|lfs> sorry meant secureboto
604 [04:22:52] <brian|lfs> and forgot about my irc window
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677 [05:18:35] <Lady_Aleena> What's going on? I just got back to my computer.
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775 [06:45:46] <viscera> "apt full-upgrade" seems stuck while "Setting up dbus" -- replaced-url
776 [06:46:09] <viscera> Perhaps that systemd-tty-ask-password-agent is blocking...?
777 [06:47:06] <viscera> (full-upgrade to Stretch, which worked fine, and I did a reboot before trying the "apt install gnome")
778 [06:48:08] <viscera> systemd-tty-ask-password-agent --list shows nothing
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786 [06:53:17] <viscera> Perhaps the fancy progress bar of apt is interfering?
787 [06:54:49] <awal1> btw, apt is buggy for me sometimes
788 [06:55:13] <awal1> try apt-get or aptitude
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790 [06:55:15] <viscera> awal1: I can always rollback to a snapshot before this installation and try with apt-get
791 [06:55:17] <viscera> ok
792 [06:55:42] <themill> that's really unlikely to be relevant (or real)
793 [06:55:42] <viscera> This is a libvirt/kvm/qemu VM by the way
794 [06:55:47] <awal1> not a solution/suggestion for your question, just a comment :P
795 [06:55:52] <viscera> yeah...
796 [06:56:12] <viscera> themill: what do you think?
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798 [06:56:42] <themill> I saw one box where dbus got sufficiently confused it was unhappy.
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800 [06:57:23] <themill> I think I was further down the upgrade path than that though.
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802 [06:57:49] <themill> oh, no, similar point
803 [06:58:02] <viscera> This is on an "apt install gnome", I misspoke earlier
804 [06:58:13] <viscera> The Jessie->Stretch full-upgrade already happened
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857 [07:46:42] <viscera> Ugh, dbus postinst is still hung
858 [07:46:52] <viscera> (switching from apt to apt-get didn't help)
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877 [07:58:27] <jim> hi... what do I need installed onto a debian machine, in order to print to another machine whose printer is served by a cups server and queue?
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944 [08:27:53] <jelly> jim: also cups
945 [08:27:59] <PenguinLinux> hello, what are non free versions of Debian for?
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948 [08:28:31] <jelly> PenguinLinux: do you mean iso images with non-free firmware?
949 [08:28:36] <jelly> !firmware images
950 [08:28:36] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
951 [08:28:37] <PenguinLinux> are they officially supported?
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954 [08:29:28] <jim> PenguinLinux, generally, non-free software is that software entangled with legal requirements
955 [08:29:34] <jelly> PenguinLinux: not really but if you have to use them, use them
956 [08:30:02] <PenguinLinux> ok. are they as stable as the normal debian images?
957 [08:30:29] <jim> generally, that varies
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959 [08:30:48] <jelly> those are just builds containing the exact same software as normal images, plus some firmware
960 [08:30:51] <PenguinLinux> jim: could you please eloaborate?
961 [08:30:58] <jelly> jim: what varies?
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965 [08:31:31] <jim> but what you have to remember, is that particular non-free software is "firmware" meant to load into specific hardware to make them work
966 [08:31:44] <PenguinLinux> are debian non-free versions comparable to mint or ubuntu?
967 [08:32:05] <jelly> it's debian plus some bits to make some drivers work
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969 [08:32:32] <jelly> not sure what you mean by comparable
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971 [08:32:53] <PenguinLinux> jelly: in beginner friendliness.
972 [08:33:00] <jelly> no
973 [08:33:09] <jelly> it's still Debian
974 [08:33:26] <PenguinLinux> jelly: does that mean Debian is not beginner friendly?
975 [08:33:37] <jelly> just makes it installable on some more servers and some more consumer models
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977 [08:33:50] <PenguinLinux> ok
978 [08:33:50] <jelly> PenguinLinux: I wouldn't call it beginner friendly
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980 [08:34:07] <jim> PenguinLinux, I'm hearing that you want to know something more general... I'm also surmising that you're trying to evaluate whether to try it for the first time?
981 [08:34:07] <Stummi> I think beeing "beginner friendly" never was a claim of what debian is
982 [08:34:43] <jim> it's more friendly than, say, arch
983 [08:34:59] <PenguinLinux> I see so many distros are based on Debian.
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987 [08:35:30] <jelly> it's a good platform to build useful stuff on
988 [08:35:37] <PenguinLinux> has anybody here heard of BOSS linux?
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990 [08:36:10] <jim> I think I've heard the name, not much more
991 [08:36:18] <jelly> !boss
992 [08:36:18] <dpkg> boss is probably a powerful, annoying creature, usually devoid of any clue, especially when ordering people around. "Bharat Operating System Solutions" (BOSS), an Indian GNU/Linux distribution <based on debian>; support is at #boss-nrcfoss on irc.freenode.net and replaced-url
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995 [08:36:57] <PenguinLinux> has anybody tried that?
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998 [08:37:11] <jim> maybe at least one person
999 [08:37:17] <PenguinLinux> I think it is a debian based distro.
1000 [08:37:29] <jelly> that's what the bot says
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1002 [08:38:39] <jim> PenguinLinux, normally being "debian based" means people other than debian developers are maintaining it
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1005 [08:39:00] <jim> or debian-the-organization
1006 [08:39:01] <PenguinLinux> Debian is on the 2nd position in distrowatch page hit rankings.
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1008 [08:39:41] <jim> PenguinLinux, so... what exactly are you looking to find out?
1009 [08:39:43] <PenguinLinux> jim: who are the target users for Debian?
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1012 [08:40:00] <jim> people who run linux?
1013 [08:40:24] <PenguinLinux> I thought Debian non-free versions are meant for beginners and could be comparable to Mint or Ubuntu.
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1015 [08:40:35] <PenguinLinux> jim: yes.
1016 [08:40:43] <jim> people who want a very solid server platform, for one thing
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1018 [08:41:20] <PenguinLinux> are majority users of Debian usually developers?
1019 [08:41:20] <jim> debian is extremely well tested and maintained
1020 [08:41:40] <PenguinLinux> or Debian is preferred by Windows users also?
1021 [08:41:40] <viscera> I don't get how this can be failing so hard. Has anyone successfully installed GNOME onto Stretch in a libvirt QEMU/KVM guest?
1022 [08:41:49] <viscera> i.e. in the last day or two
1023 [08:41:52] <PenguinLinux> I mean Linux beginners.
1024 [08:41:55] <jim> maybe, since one of the well-tested features of debian is its toolchain
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1026 [08:42:29] <PenguinLinux> jim: well tested means completely bugfree and fast?
1027 [08:42:41] <awal1> PenguinLinux, there isn't "debian non-free" version(s). there are unofficial images (amd64+i386). official images+ non free firmware vs official images without non free firmware. that's all
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1029 [08:42:58] <PenguinLinux> awal1: ok
1030 [08:43:36] <PenguinLinux> awal1: are the images updated every month? or they get updated after the install?
1031 [08:44:17] <jim> it is pretty fast, and well tested means well tested... there's bugs, to tell you there are absolutely none would be a lie... people who maintain the packages try to reduce them
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1033 [08:45:20] <awal1> PenguinLinux, "unofficial images" are stable branch specific and netinst category
1034 [08:45:26] <PenguinLinux> ok. I had downloaded the live image of debian non free version sometime back. If I want to install now, do I need to download it again? It was 8.7.1.
1035 [08:45:29] <awal1> btw, are you using debian yet or not?
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1038 [08:46:14] <PenguinLinux> on a 32 bit laptop, I have used Debian.
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1041 [08:46:18] <jim> PenguinLinux, maybe the live image has an installer, you might not have to download again
1042 [08:46:30] <PenguinLinux> wanted to try for my 64 bit laptop which is a new one.
1043 [08:46:58] <jim> do you know the image file name that you downloaded?
1044 [08:47:17] <PenguinLinux> jim: I'll try the downloaded live image.
1045 [08:47:26] <jim> one sec
1046 [08:47:52] <jim> you say you have a new 64 bit laptop? what was the other machine?
1047 [08:48:03] <awal1> PenguinLinux, all your doubt can be cleared clicking a few links here replaced-url
1048 [08:48:08] <awal1> doubts
1049 [08:48:08] <PenguinLinux> 32 bit laptop.
1050 [08:48:16] <jim> oh ok....
1051 [08:48:19] <PenguinLinux> ok.
1052 [08:48:23] <jim> some stuff:
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1054 [08:48:43] <PenguinLinux> but, I had downloaded the live image of 64 bit version also.
1055 [08:49:03] <PenguinLinux> awal1: thanks for those links. Will go through them.
1056 [08:49:14] <jim> the image you downloaded for your 32bit laptop will work in the 64 bit one, but debian has 64bit stuff too
1057 [08:49:42] <PenguinLinux> jim: I think I have 64 bit image also.
1058 [08:49:45] <jim> PenguinLinux, are you specifically looking to install debian on the 64bit laptop?
1059 [08:49:58] <PenguinLinux> jim: yes.
1060 [08:50:27] <jim> PenguinLinux, oh, ok, the file name of the image should tell you which cpu it's for
1061 [08:50:35] <PenguinLinux> ok
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1063 [08:51:20] <jim> again, the 32bit image -should- work... the 64bit one will be more performant
1064 [08:51:48] <PenguinLinux> ok
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1066 [08:52:19] <jim> and, when you subsequently add new software using apt-get, it will get the 64 bit stuff if you started with the 64bit image
1067 [08:52:32] <PenguinLinux> or, a distro based on Debian, like MX linux could be more beginner friendly?
1068 [08:52:34] <jelly> it's better to use the specific installer image for installing, I vaguely remember installer code on the live image doesn't deal with UEFI firmware well
1069 [08:52:46] <jim> dunno
1070 [08:53:01] <PenguinLinux> what is systemd?
1071 [08:53:07] <jim> do you consider yourself a beginner/
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1073 [08:53:11] <jim> ?
1074 [08:53:16] <PenguinLinux> does Debian have it?
1075 [08:53:21] <jim> yep
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1077 [08:53:28] <PenguinLinux> yes. I am a beginner.
1078 [08:54:01] <jim> the arguments for and against systemd are largely noise
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1080 [08:54:41] <PenguinLinux> jim: I don't know what is systemd in the first place.
1081 [08:54:50] <jelly> PenguinLinux: replaced-url
1082 [08:54:53] <jim> having said that, it does replace a lot of functionality, so people used to the older system have a fair amount to learn
1083 [08:55:22] <Guest82128> systemd is a fork in the road that will lead to the death opf debian
1084 [08:55:36] <Guest82128> just give it time and watch
1085 [08:55:54] <jim> Guest82128, you're a fork in the road :P
1086 [08:55:58] <jelly> PenguinLinux: it's a software component that manages startup of various services at boot time
1087 [08:56:02] <gry> jim: yay
1088 [08:56:17] <jim> hi gry
1089 [08:56:18] <PenguinLinux> ok
1090 [08:56:24] <gry> jim: hi :-)
1091 [08:56:45] <jelly> PenguinLinux: in fact scroll up and read that whole chapter if you want to know
1092 [08:57:07] <Guest82128> i am a fork, indeed!
1093 [08:57:41] <PenguinLinux> ok
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1097 [08:58:04] <jelly> Guest82128: you're also an annoyance, quieted for 60 minutes
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1099 [08:58:20] <jelly> try to be more constructive in the future
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1102 [08:59:30] <jim> PenguinLinux, given you're a beginner, you have some other fish to fry... for one thing, you need to get used to the command line, and come to know its interpreter fairly well
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1104 [08:59:38] <PenguinLinux> in one of the youtube videos Linus Torvalds has said that Debian is somewhat difficult to install and maintain. Probably long time back. Has anything changed since then?
1105 [08:59:59] <PenguinLinux> jim: true. I agree with you.
1106 [09:01:57] <awal1> PenguinLinux, you know, here people ask specific questions about debian, almost technical ones. a vs b and similar stuff are more suitable for #debian-offtopic
1107 [09:02:16] <PenguinLinux> ok
1108 [09:02:32] <PenguinLinux> awal1: I'll install Debian and try it.
1109 [09:02:51] <jim> PenguinLinux, he also says he's a disaster when it comes to maintaining machines; he wants to do what he wants to do, and he doesn't want a dist getting in his way. he's fairly easily frustrated and easy to anger (I would say by observation)... he has built a lot of the tools he uses, and debian may or may not have them yet (although it does have the tools needed to build pretty much anything)
1110 [09:03:29] <PenguinLinux> ok
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1113 [09:05:00] <jim> PenguinLinux, and, you might like it. one thing to avoid, especially right now, is trying to install things that don't come from debian (that debian works very hard to make sure things work together is a small part of the reason for that, the rest is mostly that you could break it)
1114 [09:05:52] <PenguinLinux> jim: I feel Debian has enough packages suitable for all my needs.
1115 [09:05:58] <astephanh> is there a irc channel for creating deb packages?
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1117 [09:06:49] <PenguinLinux> jim: what is the difference between using Debian and Debian based distros like MX or Sparky?
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1119 [09:07:00] <PenguinLinux> they also seem to be popular.
1120 [09:07:08] <jim> astephanh, there are debian mentors to help you do just that; they're on irc.oftc.net in #debian-mentors
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1122 [09:07:24] <towo^work> PenguinLinux, the difference is, only debian is supported here
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1124 [09:07:44] <astephanh> jim, thx
1125 [09:07:46] <jim> PenguinLinux, they have their own archive of software you can get
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1127 [09:08:00] <jim> astephanh, welcome
1128 [09:08:14] <PenguinLinux> besides support, any other difference? pros and cons of it.
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1130 [09:08:41] <jim> I dunno for sure
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1132 [09:09:59] <jelly> astephanh, jim: #debian-mentors is for people who want to package for Debian inclusion; if you know your package will not enter Debian, there's #packaging channel, also on OFTC
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1136 [09:11:11] <jim> that's good to know
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1139 [09:12:22] <PenguinLinux> ok
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1146 [09:15:18] <PenguinLinux> thanks a lot. Will give Debian a try on my new laptop.
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1162 [09:25:20] <nkuttler> is there a tool to make it easy to transcode audio files, and perhaps to copy them (selectively) to an external storage?
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1173 [09:28:32] <jelly> does "sox" still exist?
1174 [09:28:35] <jelly> ,i sox
1175 [09:28:36] <judd> Package sox (sound, optional) in jessie/amd64: Swiss army knife of sound processing. Version: 14.4.1-5; Size: 133.9k; Installed: 224k; Homepage: replaced-url
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1190 [09:33:10] <nkuttler> well, i know how to transcode and move files. i think i'll write a script for quodlibet, which manages my library anyway
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1195 [09:34:20] <judd> No package named 'firebird2.5' was found in jessie/amd64.
1196 [09:34:24] <celyr> ,i firebird2.5-classic
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1212 [09:44:47] <izzy> Hi Yall
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1232 [09:55:20] <craniumslows[awa> Oh no it's getting that late already
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1234 [09:55:27] <astephanh> jelly, i'd like to ask a few questions how to repackage with a custom patch
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1357 [10:35:49] <tdn> After hardening my SSH settings according to replaced-url
1358 [10:35:55] <tdn> ixed in debian 8?
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1370 [10:40:26] <DoctorD90> good day. some issue installing debian on a new acer with efi. I used expert install. I choosen gpt. I parted the disk in "efi", /boot, /(enc), /home(enc), swap(enc). Once at grub installation step, it said it failed. Even if I choose yes to "insfall in removable path"...any idea?
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1383 [10:46:30] <petn-randall> ,v python-paramiko
1384 [10:46:31] <judd> Package: python-paramiko on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7.7.1-3.1; wheezy-backports: 1.10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.15.1-1; stretch: 2.0.0-1; sid: 2.0.0-1
1385 [10:47:08] <petn-randall> tdn: The safest system is an offline system! :)
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1387 [10:47:47] <petn-randall> tdn: Looks like a backport won't happen soon. I recommend making your settings less restrictive to get it to work again. Or you can backport the version from stretch yourself.
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1424 [11:12:41] <tdn> petn-randall, I see that sid and stretch has 2.0. Since this is a major version upgrade compared to 1.15 I guess backporting wont be so easy. I think maybe upgrading paramiko via pip instead would probably be easier. However, I am not sure how other debian packages will handle that ... Or how to undo it, if it does not work. Dont want to break my system.
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1427 [11:13:29] <FreddyP> petn-randall: install it into a VM test it out first
1428 [11:13:35] <petn-randall> tdn: Then do a user install, that will only affect your user then.
1429 [11:13:45] <petn-randall> tdn: pip install --user <package>
1430 [11:14:03] <petn-randall> FreddyP: Install what?
1431 [11:14:15] <FreddyP> stretch
1432 [11:14:25] <petn-randall> FreddyP: why?
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1435 [11:15:29] <FreddyP> you said 'However, I am not sure how other debian packages will handle that ...
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1446 [11:19:11] <rabgulo_> hello. can i in debian 9 (strech) have php version5?
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1453 [11:23:31] <tdn> petn-randall, good idea. However, the user is going to be root since that is the only one who can back up everything....
1454 [11:23:48] <themill> rabgulo_: not really
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1458 [11:25:46] <rabgulo_> themill: i muss compile? :/
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1461 [11:26:39] <petn-randall> FreddyP: tdn said that.
1462 [11:26:52] <FreddyP> ok
1463 [11:26:53] <themill> rabgulo_: I can think of other solutions that are better
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1469 [11:28:20] <rabgulo_> themill: other solutions? pls, can tell me?
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1471 [11:28:44] <themill> you probably wouldn't appreciate them
1472 [11:28:52] <themill> they won't involved php being on the box
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1480 [11:32:01] <petn-randall> rabgulo_: PHP5 won't be supported by upstream for the duration of stretch, which is why it's not there anymore. I suggest you stick with jessie if you need PHP5.
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1491 [11:36:33] <Koyaanisqatsi`> what's the consensus on using deb-multimedia repos on debian? does it cause problems or is it just an ideological problem?
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1493 [11:36:49] <petn-randall> !dmm
1494 [11:36:49] <dpkg> We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See replaced-url
1495 [11:36:54] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: ^^^
1496 [11:37:17] <petn-randall> Also:
1497 [11:37:20] <petn-randall> !why not dmm
1498 [11:37:20] <dpkg> The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>.
1499 [11:37:58] <DoctorD90> next month will be available stretch??
1500 [11:38:10] <Koyaanisqatsi`> problem is even in debian testing, audacious is an ancient version. why?
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1503 [11:39:51] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: I wouldn't call a year old ancient.
1504 [11:40:14] <CQ> hello, I'm running jessie with xfce in a vbox VM, and I can't get it to shut down from the GUI When I go into rescue mode and shutdown -h now, it does shut down. I'm not seeing where it hangs in messates or syslog... any ideas?
1505 [11:40:22] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: What are you missing from the newer release?
1506 [11:40:35] <Koyaanisqatsi`> petn-randall, features and bugfixes
1507 [11:40:37] <CQ> basically I need to wait 10-15 seconds, and then kill the VM
1508 [11:40:45] <petn-randall> !sns
1509 [11:40:45] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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1515 [11:42:04] <themill> There's a new version packaged in git but it's not suitable for uploading until after stretch has released.
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1518 [11:42:24] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: You can always install from source if the packaged version doesn't do it for you.
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1521 [11:42:42] <DoctorD90> themill: it is there a date for release?
1522 [11:42:47] <themill> WIR
1523 [11:42:50] <Koyaanisqatsi`> petn-randall, yes I know, but might as well use gentoo or something at that point
1524 [11:43:01] <DoctorD90> maybe it will fix my issue in installing :P
1525 [11:43:17] <DoctorD90> wir means? wip work in progress...wir?
1526 [11:43:39] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: Sure, but newer software tends to be more buggy, so it's a double-edged sword.
1527 [11:43:46] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: when it's ready
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1545 [11:44:17] <Koyaanisqatsi`> petn-randall, in this case it's better. I've been using the newer versions for several months.
1546 [11:44:36] <Koyaanisqatsi`> is there somewhere we can make requests to non-free?
1547 [11:44:46] <Koyaanisqatsi`> I'd like to see nvenc support in ffmpeg
1548 [11:44:59] <DoctorD90> petn-randall: :P thx...so isn't there a release date :P
1549 [11:45:30] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: ffmpeg is in main, not non-free.
1550 [11:45:33] <DoctorD90> what do you suggest? wait a month or try to solve isssue and install jessie?
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1557 [11:46:27] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: Did the installation work with the guided install?
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1559 [11:46:56] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: I'm guessing that you made a mistake with the ESP.
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1562 [11:47:24] <DoctorD90> petn-randall: i havent tried that one, because it doesnt make what id like unfortunately
1563 [11:47:41] <DoctorD90> yea, me too :/ but this is the first efi i installed
1564 [11:47:50] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: I'd just use LVM, then you don't have to encrypt all partitions by hand.
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1569 [11:48:28] <Koyaanisqatsi`> petn-randall, I think that's the problem then, since nvidia stuff is in non-free
1570 [11:48:35] <DoctorD90> i dont like lvm :P
1571 [11:48:56] <coke> cause its convenient?
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1574 [11:49:28] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: Yeah, that won't happen then. No package from main can depend on a package from non-free.
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1576 [11:49:39] <petn-randall> Koyaanisqatsi`: You can compile your own ffmpeg, though.
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1581 [11:50:39] <Koyaanisqatsi`> An ffmpeg-nonfree could be added
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1583 [11:51:09] <DoctorD90> petn-randall: with efi, and the / encrypted, should I create /boot partition rigth? from what i remember now i flagged "bootable" efi but /boot too
1584 [11:51:53] <Koyaanisqatsi`> compiling is not practical in some cases
1585 [11:52:04] <Koyaanisqatsi`> like running on a tiny ssd
1586 [11:52:49] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: /boot is where the kernels lie. /boot/efi (the EFI System Partition) is a separate partition containing the EFI PE32 executables.
1587 [11:53:10] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: That's why I recommend guided partition with encrypted LVM, it's less error-prone.
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1593 [11:56:00] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, ok in that case I did it rigth making efi partition, and /boot partition. Probably I have to not select bootable the /boot partition maybe.....but in that case, is possible that grub doesnt know where it should be installed? bha...very strange
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1597 [11:57:40] <DoctorD90> i dont like lvm, so I cant use it. In plus I would like (like on this actual system) /boot, /(enc), /home(enc), /swap(enc)...and guided hasnt this configuretion :P
1598 [11:58:02] <DoctorD90> configuration*
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1603 [12:00:05] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, due to I havent a flat internet access in this period, I will make a clone of repo, and I will try to use netinst with a local repo :P (I hope it will work...either, I will learn a new stuff :D)
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1612 [12:04:19] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: But what if you install a few things and your rootfs is too small? You'd have to backup, repartition, reinstall, and restore your data. With LVM it's just two commands and you're good to go again.
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1615 [12:06:50] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, because Now with all stuff installed, I give 100gb to system, an I have used less than 50gb....so giving to new disk (1TB) 150gb, I stay quite easy :D and I would give different key to /home , /, and swap. to do so I have to create 3 luks....and create a luks inside a LVM is senseless :P
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1618 [12:07:38] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: But you have to type three passwords to boot, right?
1619 [12:08:11] <DoctorD90> is all "commanded" by main install theory...different keys for different partitions...so i have to make luks, and luks cant be lvm-ed XD (but you know, Im just saying to underline the problem :D)
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1623 [12:08:28] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, yep....2 in reality. swap is random at each boot :D
1624 [12:08:37] <DoctorD90> just 2, / and /home
1625 [12:08:59] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: "LUKS can't be LVMed"? I don't know what you mean with that. But you can have LVM on top of a LUKS partition, which is what I have on several machines.
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1628 [12:09:48] <jelly> petn-randall: you can also have luks inside a lv if you want to!
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1637 [12:12:16] <petn-randall> And I doubt using two different LUKS partitions will improve security. If an attacker can gain access to one key, I'm pretty sure they also have access to the other.
1638 [12:12:35] <petn-randall> jelly: Sure, you can stack them as deep as you want! :)
1639 [12:12:41] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, sorry. I try to explain my think better. LVM allowes me to resize partition. LUKS doesnt allow to resize partition. If I create a "master" / encrypted, then if I create a LVM inside it...i can only use up to max size of master LUKS. If I create a LVM for /, then I encrypt the size inside it....I should have a "large block device"(allow me the term), that I can resize. So in my case, to get 3 partition luks-ed, lvm is not very
1640 [12:12:41] <DoctorD90> usefull belong to me :P
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1643 [12:13:33] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, for sure. But he has to start a new attack from scratch...because it is a new key :P
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1648 [12:14:36] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: That's why you have /boot, /boot/efi, and a the remaining disk space is LUKS. And on top of that you have LVM, where you can distribute the disk space freely among any partitions you want.
1649 [12:14:39] <DoctorD90> with 1 password, LVM is the best. To get 3 different luks partition lvm is a quite useless (always belong to me)
1650 [12:14:53] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: In which scenario would an attacker gain access to one but not the other?
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1652 [12:15:44] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: If an attacker has root access on your machine, they'll just read it out of memory, where both keys lie. If an attacker beats you until you give away your password, do you think they'll stop after the first one?
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1654 [12:16:33] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: I can't think of a scenario where one key is compromised, and the other isn't. And even if, I can't imagine a scenario where it would mitigate any further attacks.
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1658 [12:17:47] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, 1. i havent gotcha the 1 sentece. 2.in a scenario in which the attacker has run an attack to get my key, it just get key of only 1partition. /(system) maybe. To reach data on /home, he has to run a new attack, because to unlock the /home partition he has to enter a new/different key from / partition
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1662 [12:18:38] <DoctorD90> if I have 3 vault, with 3 different key, burglar should run 3 different attacks on 3 different vault 0o isnt so?
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1667 [12:19:20] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: *which* new attack? I said they'll get both keys in one go. Can you come up with a *specific* attack that would only get you one key, but NOT the other?
1668 [12:20:14] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: For the vault example, you have three different vaults, but you're always carrying those three keys on the same keyring. So if someone steals or robs them from you, they've always got all three.
1669 [12:20:20] <DoctorD90> keys are store nowhere. So I have to just type at boot. With pc shutted down, attacker where could get the key without an attack on partition? 0o (sorry maybe is my own ignorance)
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1671 [12:21:13] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, for sure, But I will never boot up pc in front of other people xD so they cant see which is my passhrase XD
1672 [12:21:44] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: The keys are stored in the LUKS header, protected by the password. The keys are unencrypted in kernel memory, directly next to each other.
1673 [12:21:46] <DoctorD90> keyring is *only* in my mind (I have a dump of partition header for security...but it is in a secure place)
1674 [12:21:58] <jelly> I have an opposite problem. Two LUKS devices, same passphrase, key on disk, would REALLY like to be asked jsut once for the password
1675 [12:21:59] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: You type both keys at the same time, during boot, or not?
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1679 [12:24:28] <DoctorD90> petn-randall: boot, grub, ask for 1 partition pass, load, ask for 2nd partition pass, then boot system. I have to type 2 different keys 0o but im talking about with pc shutted down, sorry, Maybe I havent mentioned this in *scenario*. Because if attacker has access to pc while it is running, 1-1thousand luks are useless, for reason you mentioned (keys in memory)
1680 [12:24:42] <DoctorD90> jelly, wait...I havent fully understand....
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1682 [12:26:26] <DoctorD90> jelly, if I understood, in your case, keys are on 1 disk, connected to device. Once unlocked that "keyring" partition, system will load keys from there. So user should type just 1 pass (pass of "keyring" partition).
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1684 [12:27:39] <jelly> DoctorD90: nah, I don't have any "keyring partition"
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1686 [12:28:00] <DoctorD90> or if keys are on /boot, (senseless belong to me), and /boot isnt encrypted, system will never ask to type password...(system setted to load key from a "unencrypted" partition..not just magically say "ok debian! load key xD ahahahah what a beautifull world would it be)
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1688 [12:29:07] <DoctorD90> btw from my memory, (maybe corrupted ahah), same password, alays 2 type required
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1693 [12:32:50] <DoctorD90> my new pc has tpm too...maybe it is better to create secure password :D
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1699 [12:36:27] <z00kov> hi all :). Do you know the email address of the security team in order to have information about fixes regarding the last BIND advisory. Is there information about a released date of a DSA/DLA for CVE-2017-3136>CVE-2017-3138 ?
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1703 [12:37:33] <jelly> dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2017-3136
1704 [12:37:33] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory CVE-2017-3136 may be found at replaced-url
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1707 [12:38:33] <jelly> z00kov: you can track the bug report linked there
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1709 [12:38:52] <istevenmon> hi guys, i need some help with ipsec vpn and pptp. I have configured ipsec site-to-site and it works with no problem. In the same debian machine i have a pptp vpn which i connect with my PC where i have some VM. My VM can connect and reach the VM in the other side of the ipsec vpn, but the VMs in the ipsec dont reach my local VMs, it stops at the linux box
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1712 [12:40:06] <anexit> Any tools out there that will allow me to open a remote application? For example I have a debian RDP box that a few people log into, possible for them to just click an icon and it loads their application without logging into an entire desktop?
1713 [12:40:17] <anexit> Commercial or free, just looking at options
1714 [12:40:30] <petn-randall> istevenmon: Are you using UDP tunneling? Otherwise IPsec won't traverse any NAT.
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1716 [12:40:35] <jelly> z00kov: as for the DLA, ask in #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net
1717 [12:40:50] <z00kov> jelly: thanks about that :) i know DST ;=) but there is no information on the bugid :/ and sound weird bcz there is only few date between ISC advisory and DLA/DSA and these vulnerabilities few weeks ? :/
1718 [12:41:01] <z00kov> ok thanks jelly
1719 [12:41:12] <Cerebr0> petn-randall: Sorry to bother you, what is a NAT ? (Don't have technical vocab in english)
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1721 [12:41:31] <anexit> network address translation
1722 [12:41:36] <petn-randall> Cerebr0: replaced-url
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1726 [12:41:48] <Cerebr0> Thanks
1727 [12:42:05] <anexit> Cerebr0 a hacked up way to help the ipv4 pool hehe
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1729 [12:42:13] <anexit> Works really well, though
1730 [12:43:03] <petn-randall> NOT
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1733 [12:43:30] <petn-randall> There's been at least 5 RFCs to cope with the problems stemming from NAT. :/
1734 [12:43:44] <istevenmon> petn-randall: i have udp with esp
1735 [12:45:02] <anexit> It's not great put it works. Most people that like ipv4 have moved to enip
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1738 [12:45:17] <anexit> but isps are far to none
1739 [12:45:52] <jelly> $work is implementing CGNAT... because ipv6 is HARD
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1742 [12:46:57] <rockyh> hi! Has this bug (replaced-url
1743 [12:47:12] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1746 [12:48:21] <anexit> I don't know why we don't all just move to IPv6
1747 [12:48:57] <anexit> or at least make it talk to ipv4 without impaments
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1751 [12:50:44] <Cerebr0> Ok i'm sorry but idk where i could ask this question instead of here. What exactly is an IP address space ?
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1753 [12:51:48] <jolt> Cerebr0: Not sure what you mean, but maybe that IP addresses are forced to be in certain ranges. read more at replaced-url
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1755 [12:52:47] <anexit> Sage accounting software = dog pile
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1762 [12:56:14] <rockyh> judd: I still cannot read `(open, patch)' in that page. Anyway, does this mean "yes"?
1763 [12:56:15] <judd> No package named 'still' was found in jessie/amd64.
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1779 [13:10:36] <DoctorD90> btw, jelly petn-randall during installation, i will have to set /boot as bootable or not?
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1781 [13:11:29] <danieeel> Hi guys. I did dd with mbr.bin on wrong partition with data, what option do I have?
1782 [13:11:31] <danieeel> :)
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1791 [13:14:09] <danieeel> Are there any chance to recover data from this partition since not much was write with dd
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1801 [13:19:12] <j4ckcom> how can i install gqrx on debian?
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1805 [13:21:22] <jim> jelly, ayh?
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1812 [13:22:15] <j4ckcom> how can i install gqrx on debian? help me plz :(
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1814 [13:22:21] <jim> j4ckcom, I dunno what gqrx is... but, you might find something if you... apt-cache search gqrx
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1817 [13:23:32] <j4ckcom> ok thanks jim
1818 [13:23:33] <j4ckcom> :)
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1821 [13:24:17] <jim> at least you might find out if it's packaged for debian (and if it is, that's pretty much the safest way to get it)
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1823 [13:25:18] <jim> (you can, but hopefully don't have to go on the adventure of "let's build it from source")
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1825 [13:26:19] <n4dir> replaced-url
1826 [13:26:36] <j4ckcom> ok jim
1827 [13:26:37] <j4ckcom> :)
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1829 [13:26:51] <jim> hey, someone found something for you
1830 [13:27:52] <n4dir> the bot can search for packages too, but i always forget how. So there are three options (apt-cache search, packages.debian.org and the bot, perhaps even more)
1831 [13:28:52] <jim> once you have a package name, you can... " , versions (put package name here) "
1832 [13:28:54] <n4dir> apt-cache search is probably the most natural one ... :-)
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1837 [13:29:53] <jim> where;s n4land? arizona?
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1841 [13:32:00] <j4ckcom> i can’t hear sound on debian. what’s wrong?
1842 [13:32:48] <jim> computer off?
1843 [13:32:59] <j4ckcom> jim on
1844 [13:33:06] <j4ckcom> it is on
1845 [13:33:11] <jim> that;s a good start...
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1847 [13:33:17] <jim> ok, serionsly
1848 [13:33:19] <j4ckcom> but i don’t know why i can’t hear sound on debian.
1849 [13:33:31] <jim> umm have you ever before?
1850 [13:33:46] <j4ckcom> ?
1851 [13:33:49] <j4ckcom> what you mean?
1852 [13:34:05] <jim> have you ever heard sound on your debian install?
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1854 [13:34:16] <j4ckcom> no
1855 [13:34:16] <jim> on that hardware/that os
1856 [13:34:20] <j4ckcom> it is first time
1857 [13:34:38] <j4ckcom> i think that debian don’t have speaker now
1858 [13:34:39] <j4ckcom> :(
1859 [13:34:40] <jim> ok, then we start from trying to find out what your sound hardware is
1860 [13:34:56] <j4ckcom> oh good
1861 [13:35:28] <jim> could you... lspci -nn | grep -i audio | wc -l
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1863 [13:35:30] <j4ckcom> i can do it in the Setting Manager?
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1865 [13:35:40] <jim> in the terminal
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1867 [13:35:58] <j4ckcom> 1
1868 [13:36:07] <j4ckcom> jim: 1
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1870 [13:36:31] <jim> ok, now run the same thing again, only take off the last pipe (take off the "| wc -l")
1871 [13:36:52] <jim> you'll get one line, show it here
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1873 [13:37:10] <j4ckcom> 02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Ensoniq ES1371 / Creative Labs CT2518 [AudioPCI-97] [1274:1371] (rev 02)
1874 [13:37:36] <jim> ok... this thing: [1274:1371] is called your pciid
1875 [13:37:44] <jim> let's see what judd says
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1877 [13:37:51] <jim> , pciid [1274:1371]
1878 [13:37:52] <judd> [1274:1371] is 'ES1371/ES1373 / Creative Labs CT2518' from 'Ensoniq' with kernel module 'snd-ens1371' in jessie. See also replaced-url
1879 [13:38:50] <jim> what happens if you... modprobe snd-ens1371
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1882 [13:40:08] <blackflow> The maintainer of bind9 package in Debian also maintains the package in Ubuntu. It got fixed for some secvulns in Ubuntu, but in Debian the fix hasn't even touched unstable. Anyone knows why?
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1885 [13:40:25] <pragomer> I have a PC and its cooler fan is extremly loud under linux live systems. do I have proprietary graphic driver installed its ok. I wonder how could I manager this with default (noveau??) driver because I use a lot of live-cds based on debian (e.g. kali)
1886 [13:40:35] <pragomer> can I somehow slow down the fan?
1887 [13:41:05] <j4ckcom> jim whaat is modprobe?
1888 [13:41:22] <jim> j4ckcom, judd says the kernel module is called snd-ens1371
1889 [13:41:41] <jim> do you know what insmod is?
1890 [13:42:33] <jim> yes or no are both perfectly good answers
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1892 [13:43:10] <j4ckcom> i don’t know insmod
1893 [13:43:25] <j4ckcom> how can i hear sound on debian ? :(
1894 [13:43:25] <jim> ok, that tells me where to start...
1895 [13:43:47] <jim> first, a little explanation...
1896 [13:44:02] <j4ckcom> i go to web site, then i start movie, i can see movie but i can’t hear sound :(
1897 [13:44:12] <TomTomTo1> maybe first install pavucontrol and check if the sound levels are up and the right output device is selected.
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1899 [13:44:57] <jim> j4ckcom, the linux kernel has a big piece which is the main kernel, and a lot of little pieces called kernel modules... understand so far?
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1902 [13:45:37] <j4ckcom> oh yeah so how can i hear sound?
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1904 [13:45:59] <j4ckcom> pavucontrol
1905 [13:46:04] <jim> I'm in the middle of answering your question :)
1906 [13:46:23] <j4ckcom> oh yeah
1907 [13:46:26] <j4ckcom> go on
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1912 [13:48:06] <jim> when you boot linux, the main part of the kernel comes in, and whichever modules are necessary are loaded too... these modules do jobs like: support different kinds of disk formats, different kinds of disk and other devices (like sound), and serve other functions as well
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1914 [13:48:42] <j4ckcom> then i can’t hear sound?
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1916 [13:49:18] <jim> sometimes, you have a situation where the only way one specific module can work, is if another module comes in first
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1918 [13:50:07] <jim> your debian will figure out which modules need which other modules and make that information available in a file
1919 [13:50:18] <jim> what modprobe does...
1920 [13:50:58] <jim> is it looks for the modules needed by the module you tell it, and load those, then load the one you want
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1925 [13:52:02] <jim> (I'm cutting some corners telling you this way.... some info is missing, I expect that when you need it (probably not today), you can find out
1926 [13:52:05] <j4ckcom> ok then how can i hear youttube sound? jim
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1928 [13:52:47] <jim> so first, what happens if you... modprobe snd-ens1371
1929 [13:53:06] <jim> (that's probably not everything, but we'll see)
1930 [13:53:07] <j4ckcom> nothing
1931 [13:53:17] <j4ckcom> modprobe snd-ens1371 <— nothing happened
1932 [13:53:18] <jim> that's usually good news
1933 [13:53:35] <jim> no news is sometimes good news
1934 [13:53:44] <j4ckcom> oh yeah
1935 [13:53:50] <j4ckcom> give me more good news :)
1936 [13:54:06] <jim> see if alsamixer does anything
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1938 [13:54:27] <j4ckcom> alsamixer?
1939 [13:54:33] <j4ckcom> what is alsamixer?
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1941 [13:55:09] <jim> yeah, well, it's a mixing panel that knows the volume levels for your sound card
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1943 [13:55:35] <jim> (as long as the driver is loaded)
1944 [13:55:44] <j4ckcom> i don’t know where is alsamixer?
1945 [13:55:59] <jim> try just running it from the terminal
1946 [13:56:16] <j4ckcom> oh
1947 [13:56:17] <j4ckcom> wait
1948 [13:56:19] <jim> type: alsamixer (then hit enter)
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1950 [13:56:47] <j4ckcom> 00
1951 [13:56:54] <j4ckcom> alsamixer is 00
1952 [13:57:07] <j4ckcom> oh it works
1953 [13:57:09] <j4ckcom> :)
1954 [13:57:38] <jim> sound in linux is not the most inviting of things...
1955 [13:57:43] <tsglove> yeah! That sweet feeling when something works.
1956 [13:58:06] <j4ckcom> :)
1957 [13:58:18] <jim> does your youtube video work now?
1958 [13:58:25] <j4ckcom> i can put it into status bar?
1959 [13:58:26] <j4ckcom> jim:
1960 [13:58:36] <j4ckcom> yes it works well
1961 [13:58:50] <jim> oh good, so you can hear the audio?
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1963 [13:59:58] <jim> if so... good... have fun... and you even got to learn something about the linux kernel
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1965 [14:00:36] <j4ckcom> i can hear audio
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1967 [14:00:42] <jim> great
1968 [14:01:00] <jelly> jim: [ayh] nope! :-)
1969 [14:01:04] <j4ckcom> jim: anyway i can put it on the status bar? like mac or windows?
1970 [14:01:13] <jim> oh, hey....
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1972 [14:01:51] <jim> what, alsamixer? you can probably get a mixer program that can go in the status bar
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1976 [14:02:14] <jim> jelly, one sec (sorry)
1977 [14:02:28] <jim> just finishing up
1978 [14:02:29] <j4ckcom> what is mixer program?
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1980 [14:02:59] <jim> a mixer is something that lets you adjust the volume levels
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1982 [14:03:14] <j4ckcom> yeah then how can i install it?
1983 [14:03:42] <jim> but, what I need to tell you now, is: right now your sound situation might be a little fragile
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1985 [14:04:03] <j4ckcom> yeah
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1987 [14:04:12] <jim> it's fragile because I don't know if the driver module gets modprobed at boot
1988 [14:04:16] <j4ckcom> so i need mixer program
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1990 [14:04:22] <forcerecon> morning everyone
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1993 [14:04:42] <jusss> I tried `make-kpkg kernel_image kernel_headers` to compile 4.11, and headers compile failed, install: cannot stat ‘REPORTING-BUGS’: No such file or directory
1994 [14:04:55] <jusss> anyone meet this before?
1995 [14:05:01] <jim> so next time you boot, you might need to modprobe it again, then run a mixer (alsamixer from the terminal is one) and set your levels
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1999 [14:06:23] <jim> jusss, aside not really related to your problem: you might wish to run make-kpkg with the --initrd option
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2004 [14:06:50] <jim> (man make-kpkg to see what it does)
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2006 [14:07:19] <jusss> jim: no, it's compiled for another computer
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2008 [14:08:11] <jim> jelly: ok, I installed cups, and it found the jetdirect card of the hp printer I got, I printed a test page with it, and set it as default...
2009 [14:08:18] <jusss> --initrd will generate initramfs, but it's for another computer
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2012 [14:09:18] <jim> jusss, yes, it will do that when the .deb is installed on the other kernel (the package build won't do it, instead, it will include code in the package which does it on package install)
2013 [14:09:51] <jim> s/on the other kernel/on the other computer/
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2020 [14:10:26] <jusss> jim: I see, I will try it
2021 [14:11:13] <jim> (but --initrd won't solve the problem you're reporting unfortunately)
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2023 [14:12:16] <jim> hmm, is that a ham callsign?
2024 [14:12:41] <jusss> jim: still same failed
2025 [14:12:56] <forcerecon> when I change the sources.list file and run aptitude update I am getting an error.. Can someone take a look..
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2027 [14:12:57] <forcerecon> replaced-url
2028 [14:14:32] <forcerecon> I figured it out,, left quotes in there
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2030 [14:14:34] <jim> jelly, when I "echo hi | lpr", it prints a hi page...
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2035 [14:15:56] <forcerecon> what is the proper way to check for updates with debian? Is there an applet
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2037 [14:16:21] <jim> jelly, but when I try to print from firefox, it doesn't see the cups print queue
2038 [14:16:40] <jim> the only entry I see is "print to file"
2039 [14:17:29] <jim> forcerecon, I usually run apt-get -d dist-upgrade
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2041 [14:17:42] <jim> which will -ohly- download the packages
2042 [14:18:08] <forcerecon> I just did sudo apt-get update
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2044 [14:18:31] <forcerecon> does debian let you know in the notifications if there are updates for the distro
2045 [14:18:37] <jim> forcerecon, then, if it does download anything, I would run it again without the -d (so, apt-get dist-upgrade)
2046 [14:18:56] <jim> not that I know of
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2048 [14:19:38] <jim> anyway, the second run would install the packages that got downloaded
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2053 [14:20:44] <jim> forcerecon, do you have a cdrom in the drive?
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2055 [14:21:05] <forcerecon> Jim, not anymore
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2058 [14:21:42] <jim> forcerecon, ok, then you may wish to comment out line 3 in your /etc/apt/sources.list
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2065 [14:23:10] <forcerecon> Jim, i was thinking that but I wanted to see what you guys said first, so thanks.. I do have a duplicate in my sources.list but one starts with deb and the other deb-irc I think,. Is that okay?
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2069 [14:24:48] <jim> forcerecon, the deb-src line is what lets you get a package's source
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2074 [14:27:35] <forcerecon> thanks.. packages installing.. appreciate it
2075 [14:27:39] <jim> forcerecon, so yes, that's fine
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2081 [14:29:31] <forcerecon> since there is no indicator that you need to update your system. How often should you run the upgrade
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2083 [14:30:37] <jim> I dunno exactly... I do it when I notice packages are waiting, but you don't have to do that
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2086 [14:32:16] <jim> sometimes there might be packages waiting, but there's no reason to upgrade
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2088 [14:33:58] <n4dir> usually upgrades in stable are security upgrades, so of course there is a reason to upgrade
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2092 [14:34:57] <forcerecon> yeah I am just curious how you KNOW when there are upgrade? I don't see an indicator on the panel like you do in other distro's
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2095 [14:35:28] <n4dir> i think there is one, or at least has been, but i don't know the name of it
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2098 [14:36:42] <forcerecon> brb
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2100 [14:36:48] <n4dir> the web tells this, but i don't know anything about it replaced-url
2101 [14:37:04] <jim> sometimes I'll try to upgrade a single package, and when I do that, it will say something like 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded, with various numbers
2102 [14:39:31] <forcerecon> good to know... so just do a check manually with the commands that Jim explained earlier to keep things up to date.. I would figure for firmware or kernel updates that you would have an option to choose those independently not just take the chance upgrading is a good idea.. Does debian only UPDATE the stable ones?
2103 [14:39:44] <toruvinn> anyone tried uswsusp s2disk with a pendrive? im mostly interested if resume works, not if suspend does, which it probably does. just not entirely sure when resume kicks in, is it /before/ async usb device detection in kernel (so i'd need something like rootwait, except resumewait) or after
2104 [14:39:56] <forcerecon> is there something you can take out of your sources.list to make sure you don't get any nightly updates
2105 [14:40:56] <jim> you won't get nightly updates unless you specifically tell it to update every time
2106 [14:41:11] <toruvinn> just uninstall unattended-upgrades if you have it
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2108 [14:41:59] <jim> also I'll chime in and warn you against automatic upgrades, one day things could change radically, at minimum, that will be inconvenient
2109 [14:42:04] <toruvinn> although im not entirely sure why you'd want it. you can mark certain packages "hold" (dpkg --set-selections) to make sure they dont auto-update
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2113 [14:43:41] <forcerecon> brb.. yeah these are things I need to learn.. in linux mint it just tells you what to update with a numbering sequence of 1-5 in the gui. This way you know to do ones with 1-4 but take chances on the 5's nice thing it is visual. I need to read more here in debian on how to properly do it
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2127 [14:50:23] <ForceRecon> how are you suppose to know what the package name is for something? I want to install chrome 64 bit version.. Where do you go for a list of downloads for a single application
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2131 [14:51:06] <toruvinn> ForceRecon, there's always apt-cache search something
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2136 [14:51:28] <toruvinn> then again i sorta doubt there's chrome in packages... perhaps -nonfree?
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2139 [14:52:49] <toruvinn> ForceRecon, also replaced-url
2140 [14:52:56] <ForceRecon> I just went to the website and the installed did it for the proper version automatically.. However, I do need to learn these commands so I will try apt-cache search next time
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2143 [14:53:37] <toruvinn> ForceRecon, yeah, there's no chrome in debian's packages anyway. only chromium.
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2147 [14:54:41] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: chrome is not distributable even in non-free because it comes with a few proprietary bits.
2148 [14:54:42] <ForceRecon> toruvinn, thanks for the info. I also noticed that after installing something it still shows the box to install, versus saying reinstall or something to the effect that it had been already installed..
2149 [14:54:57] <ForceRecon> morning petn-randall
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2152 [14:55:52] <petn-randall> hi ForceRecon
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2165 [15:04:34] <ForceRecon> what can I read to learn how to remove firefox from debian but then add the icon for chrome back to where the icon for firefox is in the menu
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2169 [15:06:29] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: If you want to remove firefox, just uninstall it with your package manager.
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2179 [15:09:07] <ForceRecon> says it also wants to uninstall the cinnamon desktop
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2181 [15:09:12] <ForceRecon> scary
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2183 [15:09:46] <petn-randall> !bat
2184 [15:09:47] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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2210 [15:25:45] <lifeboy> I have a new 2TB disk that is formatted with a single LVM partition and ext4. When I try to copy a file 106.conf to 102.conf, I get "file already exists". However, nothing will show the file
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2212 [15:26:08] <lifeboy> rm 102.conf says the file doesn't exist.
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2215 [15:26:29] <petn-randall> lifeboy: Can you paste the shell commands + output to replaced-url
2216 [15:26:31] <lifeboy> but cp 106.conf 102.conf says 102.conf exist.
2217 [15:26:33] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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2225 [15:29:43] <lifeboy> petn-randall, here: replaced-url
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2228 [15:31:04] <petn-randall> lifeboy: What filesystem type is this?
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2235 [15:32:50] <paul_grozav> hello, is there any chance that free is lying about the amount of free memory on the system? It seems that there is enough free memory but a process can not start because "Bad fork [Cannot allocate memory]"
2236 [15:33:03] <lifeboy> petn-randall: ext4
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2240 [15:34:51] <ross`> replaced-url
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2242 [15:35:18] <ross`> can someone help me... when I try to type dpkg-reconfigure roundcube it says: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: roundcube is broken or not fully installed
2243 [15:35:28] <ross`> I've tried removing roundcube and roundcube-core and reinstalling
2244 [15:35:40] <ross`> but it never actually opens up a configuration thingy where it asks for db info or anything
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2246 [15:36:44] <ross`> I have been coming back to trying to get dovecot exim4 and ronudcube working every few months for a couple years.
2247 [15:37:02] <lifeboy> petn-randall: running debian8 on a server
2248 [15:37:05] <ross`> It just never ever ever ever works, and It's hard to figure out the proper way.
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2251 [15:37:33] <jolt> ross`: I have it working since forever. Whats your issue
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2253 [15:38:32] <ross`> jolt: can you please give me some steps to follow? I can't figure out how to get exim4 and dovecot to play nice with mysql..
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2255 [15:38:53] <petn-randall> lifeboy: Did you copy/paste those names? Could be some unicode character stuck in one, but not the other.
2256 [15:38:58] <ross`> Honestly I'm just looking for some guide to follow. I tried following this 2 years ago but it didn't work together: replaced-url
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2258 [15:39:12] <ross`> Honestly I'm just not sure what config stuff needs to get set or what needs to be done in what order.
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2260 [15:39:34] <ross`> Do I need to manually create mysql for mysql inbox or does it do that for you now?
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2263 [15:39:45] <petn-randall> lifeboy: Do you have an alias for 'cp'? Because by default it doesn't complain if the destination exists, it'll just overwrite it.
2264 [15:39:47] <lifeboy> petn-randall: No, they where rsynced from another server, but on completion and validation that they're all there, the old server was reformatted
2265 [15:39:48] <ross`> Honestly I really just don't know the best way to start or how to configure.
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2267 [15:40:10] <ross`> I've been using mutt for 2 years when squirrelmail broke along long time ago
2268 [15:40:13] <ross`> and I can't get roundcube working
2269 [15:40:17] <lifeboy> maybe it's something proxmox is doing that differs from the the standard debian?
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2273 [15:41:06] <jolt> ross`: I run it with sqlite and not mysql, does that matter?
2274 [15:41:24] <ross`> jolt: dovecot-imapd and exim4 with roundcube?
2275 [15:41:33] <ross`> jolt: all 3 of those or something else with roundcube
2276 [15:41:54] <ross`> And no, it doesn't matter. If I can figure out how to get it working with sqlite that should be fine.
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2284 [15:44:30] <petn-randall> !proxmox
2285 [15:44:30] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
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2287 [15:44:37] <petn-randall> lifeboy: ^^^
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2289 [15:44:41] <jolt> ross`: dovecot-imapd, exim4, roundcube yes
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2291 [15:44:51] <ross`> jolt: can I /query you?
2292 [15:44:57] <jolt> Sure
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2298 [15:46:44] <gcbirzan> Trying to add some packages from stretch to a jessie install, but after installing what I need from stretch, I get this: replaced-url
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2303 [15:49:07] <gcbirzan> Ah. libstdc++6 breaks libdapserver7 older than a version that's not in stretch :P
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2305 [15:49:26] <petn-randall> !frankendebian
2306 [15:49:27] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
2307 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> petn-randall: I took this over to ##proxmox, although this is what I have
2308 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> # cp --version
2309 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> cp (GNU coreutils) 8.23
2310 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
2311 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <replaced-url
2312 [15:49:28] <lifeboy> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
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2314 [15:49:55] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: Don't mix releases, that's what gets your pet killed.
2315 [15:50:20] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: If you need some newer package, either check backports, or backport it yourself.
2316 [15:50:24] <gcbirzan> Oh, it's called libdapserver7v5
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2320 [15:51:00] <gcbirzan> petn-randall: I'm not going to backport QT :P
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2322 [15:51:22] * petn-randall shrugs.
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2324 [15:51:37] <lifeboy> petn-randall: thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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2328 [15:52:26] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: Mixing releases is not supported because it breaks the system in unexpected and horrible ways. And there are plenty of alternatives to accomplish most goals without mixing releases.
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2332 [15:53:58] <SmallR2002> I've tried random things from random websites, now I shall try random things you guys suggest. I have two identical nVidia cards (or the option of onboard if this just won't work) and I want to drive four monitors from them. One (or more) monitor must be off of another card instead of just being on the main card. I can get as far as an X screen on the fourth screen but it doesn't seem to be accepted by Gnome and used. All I want is
2333 [15:53:58] <SmallR2002> to have it as a fourth screen.
2334 [15:54:02] <s3nSU> help
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2336 [15:54:15] <petn-randall> !ask
2337 [15:54:15] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
2338 [15:54:17] <petn-randall> s3nSU: ^^^
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2340 [15:55:49] <toruvinn> is it possible to force initramfs to wait for a device before, erm, executing further? the problem is i want to uswsusp-resume from a usb flash drive.
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2344 [15:56:13] <toruvinn> i mean, default debian's initramfs, because "edit it" is a valid option i guess, but then i'd have to worry about upgrades. ;-p
2345 [15:56:16] <toruvinn> s3nSU, NO I WONT
2346 [15:56:18] <toruvinn> ;^)
2347 [15:56:21] <s3nSU> quit ()
2348 [15:56:28] <toruvinn> s3nSU, try with / prefix
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2350 [15:56:51] <toruvinn> i hope that's what he wanted anyway.
2351 [15:57:00] * petn-randall shrugs.
2352 [15:57:05] <petn-randall> Looked a little lost.
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2354 [15:57:31] <toruvinn> yeah, a bit. i like the "quit ()" one, though.
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2360 [15:59:32] <toruvinn> hmm, perhaps i could try with this: ./scripts/init-top/udev:# If the rootdelay parameter has been set, we wait a bit for devices
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2363 [16:00:09] <toruvinn> setting rootdelay to, say, 30 secs should do the job. not the best solution, but a working one. i need it for "emergency" anyway.
2364 [16:00:17] <SmallR2002> Heh, quit () feels like it needs a ;
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2370 [16:04:57] <gcbirzan> petn-randall: That is a possibility, and I'll probably end up rebuilding the whole thing. But I wanted to check if that's the issue before wasting the time to do that :P
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2372 [16:06:35] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: What are you trying to accomplish?
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2391 [16:18:01] <gcbirzan> petn-randall: Trying to see if upgrading qt will make wkhtmltopdf generate links in PDFs :P
2392 [16:18:29] <jim> do I need some specific package to print from firefox to a cups printer (which has a queue which works, printed a test page, and printed from lpr), but when I print from firefox, it doesn't show any printers
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2404 [16:24:00] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: A stretch chroot would help you with that without potentially breaking your system.
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2408 [16:25:28] <petn-randall> !debootstrap
2409 [16:25:28] <dpkg> debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. replaced-url
2410 [16:25:32] <petn-randall> gcbirzan: ^^^
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2427 [16:30:27] <hodorsec> !ip
2428 [16:30:27] <dpkg> IP (Internet Protocol) is a connectionless, best-effort packet switching protocol. It provides packet routing, fragmentation and re-assembly through the data link layer. To check yours, go to replaced-url
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2438 [16:35:12] <gcbirzan> petn-randall: This is in a container, I just wanted to make sure that particular thing is the issue.
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2442 [16:36:09] <gcbirzan> petn-randall: I already know it works in sketch, I just wanted to verify which package is to blame. If it was something lighter, could've built it myself...
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2469 [16:43:54] <dontknow> this channel should support debian testing
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2473 [16:44:02] <dontknow> or open a new channel
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2480 [16:44:22] <dontknow> we have to enter oftc
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2575 [16:46:46] <hicks_> trying to install unity3d on stretch and it's whining about libpango1.0-0, stretch has libpango-1.0-0 which I assume are the same just different package names? Is there anyway to let apt think they're the same?
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2578 [16:47:00] <jim> dontknow, there is one... on oftc (which is, btw. irc.debian.org)
2579 [16:47:01] <hicks_> oh that was meant for the -next channel
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2599 [16:47:55] <dontknow> jim, yeah i stated oftc
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2601 [16:48:01] <hicks_> ignore above, reasked in -next :)
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2610 [16:48:24] <dontknow> but we shouldn't have to enter oftc
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2627 [16:49:46] <jim> don't enter oftc then... instead, enter irc.debian.org :)
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2652 [16:51:01] <jim> anyway you obviously knew all that... so any further argument becomes a challenge of wills (and my name isn't will))
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2687 [16:54:36] <BluesKaj> !testing
2688 [16:54:36] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See replaced-url
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2690 [16:54:55] <strk> I crated an /etc/init.d/davmail file as described here: replaced-url
2691 [16:55:17] <strk> but upon calling it, I get this error:
2692 [16:55:17] <strk> Starting davmail (via systemctl): davmail.serviceFailed to start davmail.service: Unit davmail.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
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2695 [16:55:41] <strk> why is it that init.d script ends up looking for a .service file, when the code in that file does not explicitly request a service ?
2696 [16:55:46] <strk> or, how to avoid that ?
2697 [16:55:50] <Brigo> strk, try rebooting
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2705 [16:56:13] <Brigo> strk, systemd looks for init scripts at boot time
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2710 [16:56:43] <strk> rebooting is not an option
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2712 [16:56:51] <Brigo> strk, and translates them to service files.
2713 [16:56:53] <strk> what's the command to load new services ?
2714 [16:57:12] <Brigo> you can trigger that behaviour somehow, just i don't remember how.
2715 [16:58:15] <Brigo> strk, try systemctl reload
2716 [16:58:29] <strk> too few arguments
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2721 [16:58:51] <strk> that's to reload a service
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2724 [16:59:42] <Epakai> man systemd-sysv-generator
2725 [17:00:00] <Brigo> strk, daemon-reload
2726 [17:00:33] <strk> Brigo++ (worked)
2727 [17:01:03] <Brigo> strk, nice :)
2728 [17:01:51] <strk> now I wonder if I need the `update-rc.d davmail defaults` step, as this whole thing looks all just unused ?
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2786 [17:17:31] <dunderproto> I'm using OpenBSD instead of Debian, but I'm having issues with dvd+rw-tools (which seems to be have its mailing list on debian). I couldn't find an irc channel for the project, so I wanted to ask here. I've been able to burn 6 data dvd's successfully using growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/rcd1c=<file_name.iso>, but the last 3 attempts have all failed with the following error:
2787 [17:17:36] <dunderproto> replaced-url
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2791 [17:18:15] <dunderproto> The main error message is ':-[ WRITE@LBA=19dcd0h failed with SK=4h/TIMEOUT ON LOGICAL UNIT]: Input/output error'
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2794 [17:18:46] <JPT> Input/output error usually points to a hardware issue/failure. What does the syslog and kernel log say regarding this?
2795 [17:18:53] <dunderproto> I couldn't find any more detailed error logs...has anyone had a similar experience? Each time growisofs would burn successfully up to about 50-80%, then die in the middle
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2800 [17:20:44] <capum321> hello
2801 [17:20:49] <capum321> dpkg-deb -b recipe~randomnumber lxrandr-qt.deb can't find `control` because it is looking at some `DEBIAN` folder whereas it should look for other patterns as it is currently presented as lowercase `debian`
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2804 [17:22:19] <dunderproto> JPT: my /etc/syslog.conf looks like this: replaced-url
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2806 [17:22:51] <JPT> Looks like it
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2808 [17:23:07] <jelly> capum321: dpkg-deb is only used to build a binary package from a ready-made directory structure with pre-built package contents. Does your tree contains binaries or source?
2809 [17:23:26] <capum321> jelly: yes
2810 [17:23:38] <JPT> dunderproto: I found an older bug on launchpad that contains some comments that might be helpful: replaced-url
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2812 [17:23:42] <jelly> capum321: that's not a yes/no question.
2813 [17:24:11] <capum321> jelly: the tree contains the source
2814 [17:24:17] <jelly> capum321: Does the "recipe~randomnumber" directory contain binaries, or source?
2815 [17:24:26] <capum321> ^
2816 [17:24:34] <jelly> capum321: then you need to use debuild or dpkg-buildpackage
2817 [17:24:44] <jhutchins_wk> dunderproto: This channel is more OS support than App support, but it looks like buffer problems. Could be hardware failure, decent drives are rare these days.
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2820 [17:25:26] <capum321> i will try.. i mgith disconnect for a while
2821 [17:25:35] <jelly> capum321: eg. "cd recipe~randomnumber; dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeoot"
2822 [17:25:48] <jelly> oops. -rfakeroot
2823 [17:26:16] <jelly> capum321: which OS and release are you building on?
2824 [17:26:55] <dunderproto> jhutchins_wk: the cpu seems to be mostly idle during burning, and there is plenty of spare hdd/memory, so I am guessing it is unlikely to be buffer problems. But it's definitely possible the hardware is defective because this was a second-hand dvd burner
2825 [17:27:13] <capum321> what if I just rename debian to DEBIAN ?
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2828 [17:27:35] <capum321> the problem is if it was too many renamings
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2831 [17:28:29] <jelly> capum321: dpkg-deb won't magically start compiling things
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2835 [17:29:06] <jhutchins_wk> dunderproto: I was thinking on-drive buffer problems.
2836 [17:29:25] <jhutchins_wk> dunderproto: I can rip about 3 audio disks before my drive overheats and won't do any more.
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2839 [17:30:24] <capum321> jelly what is man page for dpkg-buildpackage?
2840 [17:30:31] <dunderproto> jhutchins_wk: Would lowering the write speed help? Or perhaps decreasing the size of the iso written to the disc?
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2842 [17:31:02] <dunderproto> JPT: I couldn't find anything useful in /var/log/messages
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2847 [17:31:35] <jhutchins_wk> dunderproto: Can't tell unless you try. Trying a different app might help. Doing an MD5 sum on a disk should test read capability.
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2849 [17:31:44] <JPT> dunderproto: Does your system have something like dmesg? Maybe that contains some information.
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2851 [17:32:42] <dunderproto> JPT: Yes. Unfortunately, last time the write failed, the kernel panicked. Let me try again with a slower write speed, perhaps if it crashes again there will be something interesting. :)
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2854 [17:33:05] <capum321> what is man page for dpkg-buildpackage?
2855 [17:33:28] <JPT> A kernel panic may point to an issue with either the hardware or the driver controling it.
2856 [17:33:45] <JPT> Maybe try to do the same thing on a different OS
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2860 [17:36:08] <capum321> hello
2861 [17:36:18] <FreddyP> hello
2862 [17:36:22] <capum321> what is man page for dpkg-buildpackage?
2863 [17:36:56] <ChmEarl> capum321, dpkg-dev
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2869 [17:39:00] <jelly> capum321: don't get what you're asking. "man dpkg-buildpackage"
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2872 [17:40:38] <jelly> capum321: which OS and release are you building on?
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2894 [17:48:07] <Smither_> Hi I am using exim4 and spamassassin, but spamassassin is only listening on ipv6 localhost, I need it to listen on ipv4 as well so exim4 can connect. I have googled it and taken a look at the configs but can't find out how to set spamassassin to listen for ipv4 as well as 6
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2897 [17:49:24] <Dagger> couldn't you alternately tell exim to connect to ::1 instead of 127.0.0.1?
2898 [17:49:31] <blackflow> Smither_: I think that also listens to ipv4 localhost
2899 [17:49:46] <blackflow> aftre all, ipv4 localhost can be expressed as an ipv6 address
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2902 [17:52:35] <Smither_> so the fact that netstat says spamassassin is only listening on ::1: and exim is trying to reach 127.0.0.1 and can't communicate with spam assassin is not the problem?
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2907 [17:53:21] <blackflow> Smither: I guess it is, then.
2908 [17:53:26] <blackflow> how are you starting SA?
2909 [17:53:31] <Dagger> blackflow: negative. sockets listening on :: can accept v4 connections by default, but anything listening on a specific IP (::1 here) can only accept connections from the same address family
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2912 [17:54:20] <Smither> systemctl enable, and status says it is started fine
2913 [17:54:24] <blackflow> Dagger: I possibly remember'd something wrong about that then. I know munin, for example, configures nodes only for ipv6, but that also listens on ipv4 (expresses ipv4 through ipv6)
2914 [17:54:50] <Dagger> it's listening on :: then, not ::1 or another specific IP
2915 [17:55:01] <blackflow> Smither: I don't have SA on a debian box (only freebsd), is there a corresponding /etc/default/ config file?
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2917 [17:55:50] <blackflow> Dagger: well, :: is equivalent of 0.0.0.0, right?
2918 [17:55:55] <blackflow> ie, all available addresses
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2920 [17:56:24] <blackflow> Smither: the point being, spamd takes -i for address to bind to, default to all available ips
2921 [17:56:28] <Smither> blackflow: yeh there is, one for SA and one for exim
2922 [17:56:39] <blackflow> Smither: right, so check if -i is overriden
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2924 [17:56:54] <Dagger> it means roughly "all v6 addresses", it just happens that there's also a compatibility mechanism that allows a v6 socket listening on :: to accept v4 connections
2925 [17:57:10] <Smither> no, nothing in /etc/default/spamassassin overriding a -i option
2926 [17:57:14] <blackflow> Dagger: that must be the part I remembered about both being listened on with a single addr representation
2927 [17:57:43] <blackflow> Smither: well, is there a /lib/systemd/system/spamd.service (or whatever the unit file) ?
2928 [17:57:52] <Smither> so Dagger does that mean that SA listening on ::1: won't hear the connections from exim trying to connect to 127.0.0.1?
2929 [17:57:54] <blackflow> does that change something about parameters given?
2930 [17:58:08] <Dagger> Smither: that's correct
2931 [17:58:15] <blackflow> Smither: right. I was thinking of :: as Dagger pointed out.
2932 [17:58:17] <Dagger> can you get exim to connect to ::1?
2933 [17:58:33] <blackflow> you can try telnet, spamd is a text protocol
2934 [17:58:35] <Dagger> no idea how to do that but it might be easier than affecting SA
2935 [17:58:38] <blackflow> *has a
2936 [17:58:50] <Smither> blackflow: no option being overriden by systemd either
2937 [17:59:03] <blackflow> then are you sure you're reading netstat right?
2938 [17:59:23] <blackflow> netstat -n -4 --inet -p | grep spam
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2942 [18:00:13] <_Danny__> Hello all, I'm trying to install old version of package (namely keepassx_0.4.3+dfsg-0.1_i386.deb) and can't get it to appear in apt-cache, only keepassx_2.0.3-1_i386.deb is there, even though they can both be downloaded at: replaced-url
2943 [18:01:21] <Smither> blackflow: that command returns nothing, but netstat -alpn | grep spam return a line "tcp6 ::1:783 :::* LISTEN 1136/spamassassin.p"
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2948 [18:02:29] <blackflow> Smither: that right end of it, :::* means it's listening both ipv4 and 6
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2953 [18:03:28] <Smither> ok
2954 [18:03:47] <blackflow> Smither: can you telnet to it via ipv4?
2955 [18:03:55] <centrx> _Danny__: It doesn't need to appear in apt-cache to install it
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2957 [18:04:12] <centrx> _Danny__: apt-cache doesn't show everything in the pool. It shows what is referenced in your sources
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2959 [18:04:31] <centrx> _Danny__: and IIRC what's already installed
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2963 [18:05:23] <blackflow> Smither: telnet 127.0.0.1 783 if it says something like Connected... escape character.... then it's connected fine over ipv4. Just hit Ctrl-C to exit
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2965 [18:05:46] <Smither> it refuses. "telnet 127.0.0.1 783" is refused but "telnet ::1 783" connects
2966 [18:05:52] <blackflow> hrm
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2969 [18:06:17] <blackflow> Smither: now the 1M question: is this a container and you don't have lo on 127.0.0.1 ?
2970 [18:06:23] <_Danny__> centrx: so should I edit sources.list?
2971 [18:07:16] <Smither> container?
2972 [18:07:32] <centrx> _Danny__: If all you want to do is install the old version, just download the package and run dpkg -i on the file
2973 [18:07:38] <blackflow> Smither: LXC, LXD, docker, nspawn, ...
2974 [18:07:49] <Smither> no it isn't
2975 [18:08:05] <Smither> and telnet 127.0.0.1 80 works so i think that proves that the loopback works?
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2977 [18:08:16] <centrx> _Danny__: download in your web browser
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2979 [18:08:44] <Smither> and telnet ::1 80 works as well
2980 [18:09:00] <blackflow> Smither: yeah. well, other than trying to force spamd to -i 127.0.0.1, or just configure exim to connect to ::1, I have no idea why it's like that.
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2983 [18:09:47] <blackflow> Smither: add that -i 127.0.0.1 to OPTIONS of /etc/default/spamassassin
2984 [18:09:56] <_Danny__> centrx: What about dependencies? won't it cause problems with the rest of packages installed with apt?
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2988 [18:10:18] <centrx> _Danny__: If there are problems, it will just error out when you run dpkg -i
2989 [18:10:22] <centrx> _Danny__: won't break anything
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2991 [18:10:53] <centrx> _Danny__: But yes, dependencies may be a problem
2992 [18:11:16] <centrx> _Danny__: But installing all the dependencies from an old version of Debian will probably just break your system. What are you running now?
2993 [18:11:42] <_Danny__> centrx: stretch at the moment
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2995 [18:12:16] <dunderproto> JPT, jhutchins_wk : Thanks for your help. It seems like a bad USB cable -- I swapped the cable for the external dvd burner and all seems to be working well
2996 [18:12:27] <JPT> Nice! :)
2997 [18:12:32] <centrx> _Danny__: You may have to recompile the package to get it to work. Why do you want the old version of keepass?
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3001 [18:13:48] <_Danny__> centrx: because I want it to use the old database format, in which all my passwords are kept, this is what I've been using on slackware based distribution
3002 [18:14:33] <_Danny__> centrx: sorry for such stupid questions, I'm new to Debian, used to be a Slackware user mainly
3003 [18:14:45] <centrx> _Danny__: Okay, I would use the latest version in jessie (stable) - replaced-url
3004 [18:14:53] <centrx> _Danny__: Download the file and install it with dpkg -i
3005 [18:15:07] <centrx> _Danny__: If the install fails (probably because of dependencies), recompile it using the debian build tools
3006 [18:15:15] <centrx> dpkg: msg _Danny__ about ssb
3007 [18:15:15] <dpkg> centrx: I wish you would RTFM.
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3010 [18:16:09] <centrx> dpkg: tell _Danny__ about ssb
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3012 [18:17:01] <centrx> _Danny__: The message from the bot (dpkg) tells you how to build the package (it's pretty easy normally), but instead of "sid" or "unstable" you want to get the package from jessie/stable
3013 [18:17:23] <centrx> _Danny__: And ignore (2) about backports
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3015 [18:18:31] <_Danny__> centrx: dpkg is a bot, right?
3016 [18:18:41] <centrx> _Danny__: correct, responds to keywords
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3021 [18:20:07] <_Danny__> centrx: Ok, let me try :)
3022 [18:20:34] <centrx> _Danny__: first try just the simple dpkg -i method with the downloaded file, it may just work
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3035 [18:24:30] <ruied> hello.
3036 [18:25:06] <ruied> Why in ssh if I do "shutdown -r now" it hangs the reboot... It does this ins some computers and others it is ok.
3037 [18:25:26] <ruied> Error: "watchdog0 didn't stop"
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3043 [18:26:31] <mkonnov1> ping
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3045 [18:27:33] <jelly> !ping mkonnov1
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3058 [18:34:21] <petn-randall> ruied: It has to do with the how your ssh server and systemd interact. If you install dbus and libpam-systemd, systemd will notify your ssh server before tearing down the network, so it closes cleanly.
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3065 [18:37:28] <blackflow> ruied: systemd broke it because it kills the current sshd process. on fedora for example it's done via dbus so it gracefully logs you off. I just do "systemctl reboot && exit" and it does to fast enough.
3066 [18:37:57] <blackflow> *does so
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3068 [18:38:28] <jelly> blackflow: do you happen to know if there's a bug report for shutdown -r breakage?
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3071 [18:38:44] <_Gold_Wolf_> hi
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3092 [18:48:26] <_Danny__> is it possible to get current apt-get current configuration for options like Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order, anything not set in apt.conf?
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3099 [18:51:41] <blackflow> jelly: replaced-url
3100 [18:51:44] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3122 [19:00:42] <jelly> ah, workaround exists, but not fixed in jessie
3123 [19:00:48] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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3125 [19:01:17] <introom> hi
3126 [19:01:19] <introom> Unit iptables.service could not be found.
3127 [19:01:22] <introom> how to rescue ?
3128 [19:01:39] <jelly> introom: which debian release are you using?
3129 [19:01:46] <introom> jelly: scratch
3130 [19:01:51] <introom> strech...
3131 [19:02:50] <mutante> create a file /etc/systemd/system/iptables.service
3132 [19:03:01] <jelly> introom: there has not been a service called just "iptables" in a VERY long time. If you want something simple that reads rules from a file, look at iptables-persistent package.
3133 [19:03:20] <DoctorD90> jelly it is there a parameter that i can pass through grub to change keyboard mapping /layout?
3134 [19:03:32] <jelly> DoctorD90: no idea
3135 [19:03:48] <DoctorD90> jelly: thx
3136 [19:03:52] <jhutchins_wk> iptables isn't a persistent service, it's a configuration tool.
3137 [19:04:31] <introom> in order for iptables to work, any caveat on stretch?
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3141 [19:05:25] <jelly> introom: "don't read tutorials for Debian 5 that mention iptables service" maybe
3142 [19:05:29] <DoctorD90> the name for deb9? it is just exist?
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3144 [19:05:57] <jelly> DoctorD90: stretch ?
3145 [19:06:02] <DoctorD90> yes
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3148 [19:06:32] <DoctorD90> strech is not the name for all "next" release? or i remember wrong?
3149 [19:06:40] <jelly> !stretch
3150 [19:06:40] <dpkg> The release following Debian 8 "Jessie" is codenamed "Stretch" (the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3) and will be Debian 9: replaced-url
3151 [19:06:46] <mutante> no, it's a specific release, soon stable
3152 [19:06:47] <jelly> !buster
3153 [19:06:47] <dpkg> The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. replaced-url
3154 [19:06:53] <jelly> !testing
3155 [19:06:54] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See replaced-url
3156 [19:06:57] <mutante> the one that is always unstable is called "sid"
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3158 [19:07:15] <jelly> that one that comes after current stable is always "testing"
3159 [19:07:16] <DoctorD90> thx! now i read msg :P
3160 [19:07:27] <blackflow> jelly: well, && exist works fine for me on Jessie :)
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3164 [19:07:37] <blackflow> s/exist/exit/
3165 [19:07:48] <mutante> exit also works fine for me though
3166 [19:08:05] <jelly> installing sysvinit-core works fine for me
3167 [19:08:08] * jelly hides
3168 [19:08:20] <blackflow> openrc here :)
3169 [19:08:24] <jelly> on debian?
3170 [19:08:30] <blackflow> no, gentoo *hides*
3171 [19:08:56] <mutante> goes compiling for a while, bbl
3172 [19:08:59] <n4dir> if i run debian i usually use sysvinit.
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3174 [19:09:27] <n4dir> openrc is in the repos though, irrc
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3176 [19:09:45] <blackflow> has to be. the gentoo ppl have caused some drama in gentoo because of debian's demands for it
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3178 [19:10:14] <blackflow> long time ago, long story. just meant to say debian has to support it. blood was spilt over it :)
3179 [19:10:53] <DoctorD90> oh...i have seen stable, unstable, and strech will upper capital letter, so my memory got corrupted thinking it was the "testing" name, like sid fo unstable :P
3180 [19:11:00] <darsie> mplayer2 doesn't play H265/HEVC, there's no backport and SSB doesn't build :(.
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3182 [19:11:17] <jelly> darsie: try mpv
3183 [19:11:40] <DoctorD90> 0o stretch is frozen???
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3185 [19:11:49] <darsie> ok ...
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3187 [19:12:02] <DoctorD90> dpkg: freeze
3188 [19:12:03] <dpkg> The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Stretch started to freeze in Nov 2016 and entered full freeze on 5 Feb 2017. Also ask me about <slushy>, <stretch freeze>.
3189 [19:12:12] <jelly> DoctorD90: /msg dpkg stuff
3190 [19:12:24] <DoctorD90> oh sorry, i always forget
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3192 [19:12:59] <darsie> jelly: plays. thx! :)
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3196 [19:14:22] <DoctorD90> i cross the finger...i hope it will be released soon deb9 :D
3197 [19:14:30] <DoctorD90> with uefi support u.u
3198 [19:15:22] <jhutchins_wk> DoctorD90: UEFI has been supported for quite a while now.
3199 [19:15:52] <blackflow> DoctorD90: you mean secureboot
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3204 [19:16:52] <DoctorD90> blackflow: from an article i read today, secure boot will be post poned
3205 [19:16:59] <DoctorD90> ....i go to check it again
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3207 [19:17:20] <petn-randall> DoctorD90: secure boot != UEFI boot
3208 [19:17:26] <blackflow> DoctorD90: yeah. so you probably meant that, as EFI has been supported for quite some time
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3210 [19:17:55] <G__81> What would be the version of Gnome in Debian 9
3211 [19:18:04] <petn-randall> ,v gnome
3212 [19:18:06] <judd> Package: gnome on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.22+2; sid: 1:3.22+2
3213 [19:18:16] <petn-randall> G__81: 3.22 from the looks of it.
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3215 [19:18:43] <OS-28471> /msg NickServ REGISTER <cjm18971> <collin.mason@va.gov>
3216 [19:18:45] <G__81> and what would be the tentative time line for the release. Would it be in a month or so. Just want an approx timeline
3217 [19:18:55] <jolt> OS-28471: Try again!
3218 [19:19:00] <G__81> petn-randall, thanks for the information
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3224 [19:20:00] <georgia> Heyyo. generic
3225 [19:20:10] <georgia> hahah that just illustrated my point
3226 [19:20:22] <georgia> anydangway, generic gnu/linux question re xmodmap
3227 [19:20:49] <georgia> I want to disable the right enter key because my right elbow keeps pressing it (maybe because I'm left-handed)?
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3229 [19:21:04] <georgia> I tried nanoing my ~./Xmodmap
3230 [19:21:09] <greycat> Your elbows are on your keyboard?
3231 [19:21:18] <georgia> One of them
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3233 [19:21:39] <georgia> that may not have been an apt description
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3235 [19:22:04] <georgia> more like between my elbow and wrist
3236 [19:22:25] <georgia> but anyway, I did the standard xmodmap -e 'keycode 91='
3237 [19:22:39] <georgia> and I also nulled that line manually which does the same thing...
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3239 [19:22:51] <zykotick9> georgia: <sidenote only> i use /etc/default/keyboard to remap caps->esc system wide
3240 [19:22:56] <greycat> Did the xmodmap command work?
3241 [19:23:00] <georgia> but the key still works. I'll post this write now as an example.
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3245 [19:23:15] <georgia> Stupid homonyms
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3248 [19:24:05] <georgia> Remember me? I have a new compy now. Well, it's not mine per se. It's the meche departments. But its basically mine.
3249 [19:24:15] <DoctorD90> petn-randall, blackflow I read an italian version of the article. the original said that WEEKLY VERSIONS will be shipped woth uefi support
3250 [19:24:30] <greycat> (a) Did the xmodmap command work? (b) If not, where did you get "91"? From xev?
3251 [19:24:42] <georgia> A. no B. yes
3252 [19:24:48] <DoctorD90> probably a wrong italian article :P
3253 [19:25:03] <DoctorD90> ,v network-manager
3254 [19:25:04] <judd> Package: network-manager on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.4.0-10; jessie: 0.9.10.0-7; sid: 1.6.2-3; stretch: 1.6.2-3
3255 [19:25:19] <georgia> arrivederci
3256 [19:25:21] <DoctorD90> yuppi!!! 1.6! yes!
3257 [19:25:23] <greycat> On mine, it's keycode 104, and xmodmap -e 'keycode 104=' works to disable it.
3258 [19:25:28] <DoctorD90> ciao georgia
3259 [19:25:33] <georgia> umm... dulce et decorum est pro patria mori
3260 [19:26:05] <greycat> And xmodmap -e 'keycode 104=KP_Enter' puts it back.
3261 [19:26:11] <georgia> It would make my life if stretch is released on my birthday
3262 [19:26:24] <georgia> There's nothing to put back. It still works.
3263 [19:26:32] <georgia> Oh, you mean the line?
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3265 [19:26:48] <georgia> No, the line was originally xmodmap -e 'keycode 91='
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3267 [19:26:54] <greycat> I mean to restore the functionality of this KEY that I only disabled to test it for you.
3268 [19:26:55] <georgia> crap wrong paste
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3270 [19:27:04] <georgia> Delete KP_Decimal KP_Decimal Delete
3271 [19:27:18] <greycat> Get it working with an xmodmap command in a shell.
3272 [19:27:25] <greycat> THEN worry about editing this alleged file of yours.
3273 [19:27:30] <georgia> That was very sweet of you. :) but the key is not 104
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3275 [19:27:50] <georgia> Alleged? ;)
3276 [19:28:06] <greycat> wooledg:~$ grep -r Xmodmap /etc/X11
3277 [19:28:06] <greycat> wooledg:~$ ls -ld .Xmod*
3278 [19:28:06] <greycat> ls: cannot access '.Xmod*': No such file or directory
3279 [19:28:12] <georgia> Perhaps I should start over and give you my bash history.
3280 [19:28:21] <greycat> That would not help either of us.
3281 [19:28:30] <georgia> I was going to make a joke and write
3282 [19:28:39] <greycat> Figure out what the keycode actually is, using xev. Then write the xmodmap command to map that keycode to nothing.
3283 [19:28:39] <georgia> adduser georgia sudo
3284 [19:28:46] <georgia> I did :)
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3286 [19:28:51] <greycat> You do NOT need root privileges for this.
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3288 [19:29:09] <georgia> holy shit this is embarassing.
3289 [19:29:13] <georgia> erm, now it's 104
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3292 [19:29:19] <georgia> I don't know how that's possible.
3293 [19:29:23] <georgia> it's gaslighting me!!!!
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3296 [19:30:10] <georgia> bahaha it worked
3297 [19:30:21] <georgia> thank you for your service...s.
3298 [19:30:42] <georgia> I don't know where 91 is thought... meh. Don't need it. Numpads are only good for roguelikes.
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3300 [19:30:56] <greycat> Heresy. vi mode forever.
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3302 [19:31:35] <georgia> I would like to ignite a vi-emacs war but I just use nano.
3303 [19:31:50] <greycat> !start an editor war
3304 [19:31:50] <dpkg> nvi is known to cause sexual impotence!
3305 [19:31:56] <jelly> it annoys me SO much when grml.org boots with zsh in vi bindings mode
3306 [19:32:02] <georgia> and pluma. Not gedit because I don't want all the gnome dependencies
3307 [19:32:10] <georgia> I have grml too!
3308 [19:32:19] <jelly> who uses their shell with vi bindings?!
3309 [19:32:24] <greycat> <-
3310 [19:32:38] <nkuttler> \o
3311 [19:32:43] <georgia> I destroyed it by baleeting the dpkg cache. I should probs set up another
3312 [19:32:50] <jelly> it's almost perfect a livecd.
3313 [19:33:14] <georgia> !grml
3314 [19:33:14] <dpkg> grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. replaced-url
3315 [19:33:28] <georgia> the power is mine!
3316 [19:33:43] <georgia> Anyone else enjoying finals week?
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3318 [19:34:21] <georgia> Oh wait, nevermind. that's off-topic.
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3333 [19:41:34] <georgia> Was I the only one who died when this happened replaced-url
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3336 [19:42:02] <georgia> I watch the critical release bug graph like it's the stockmarket.
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3338 [19:42:56] <georgia> where'd everybloody go.
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3349 [19:45:27] <FreddyP> here
3350 [19:47:31] <georgia> Holy shit. Yesterday I heard something that broke my heart. By chance I saw an acquaintance I met in a computer lab who I thought was a kindred spirit because he runs Debian. (who insists is called Deebian, even though Ian's girlfriend/wife/widow is named Deb and not Deeb) I asked him, how do you feel about proprietary software? Because y'know debian, while not masochistic to the point of not offering prop driver support, is the most philosophically GNU
3351 [19:47:31] <georgia> inclined of all the major distros by far. And main as you know is totally free. He said "open source all the way", I asked him about the FSF which he had never heard of. Then I asked him what DE he uses and HE DOESNT FUCKING USE DEBIAN ANYMORE
3352 [19:48:02] <georgia> He said "I used to dualboot (debian and winsomething) but now I don't need to".
3353 [19:48:19] <georgia> "I only used linux for massive file transfers. Why else would anyone use it?"
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3356 [19:48:55] <teraflops> georgia: looks the kind of history that one can tell in #debian-offtopic
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3358 [19:49:22] <georgia> Eh, I'm done anyway. Sorry.
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3360 [19:50:13] <georgia> I had never even heard the file transfer thing. I was dumbfounded.
3361 [19:50:15] <teraflops> georgia: np
3362 [19:50:20] <georgia> Oh wait, guess I wasn't done.
3363 [19:50:24] <georgia> Now done for reals
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3365 [19:50:44] <x032cx> if feel strange realizing that Ian killed him self that Sunday!
3366 [19:51:07] <georgia> too soon
3367 [19:51:17] <greycat> Please take it to #debian-offtopic.
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3381 [19:56:38] <georgia> I want to ask you a question greycat but it's offtopic. I'll try to make it on topic. Do you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends have dpkg -i totallyrelevant.deb any up up down down left right left right b a cats?
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3387 [19:59:11] <iyra> does anyone know what a good solution for network management is? I've tried networkmanager and systemd-networkd+wpa_supplicant and both of them mess up horribly after suspend to RAM
3388 [19:59:27] <iyra> even though I have wired network I need to use PEAP
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3390 [19:59:33] <BillKGR> wicd?
3391 [20:01:00] <iyra> as far as I can tell it doesn't support PEAP, at least not on wired connection
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3400 [20:04:04] <iyra> hmm.. Arch has netctl which works fine but debian doesn't seem to have it
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3405 [20:05:32] <ForceRecon> I am here
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3417 [20:10:14] <iyra> BillKGR: it appears that the problem was wicd.. I was running networkmanager and wicd at the same time
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3419 [20:10:58] <ForceRecon> there should be an option for email to export settings, signature and everything else to one file
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3421 [20:11:02] <ForceRecon> email sux
3422 [20:11:09] <ForceRecon> takes the longest to configure and get right
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3427 [20:12:46] <greycat> Email sucks, because of spam. Because humans suck.
3428 [20:13:19] <n4dir> ^^ that.
3429 [20:13:31] <moozer> Hi all - any cups experts? I am trying to use printers exposed from a cups server, without installing cups on localhost. Could that work?
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3434 [20:16:46] <ForceRecon> you would think that after all these discussion that people would create based on human intervention
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3436 [20:16:57] <ForceRecon> I hear ya n4dir and greycar
3437 [20:17:01] <ForceRecon> greaycat
3438 [20:17:24] <ForceRecon> how do we change this
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3442 [20:18:28] <greycat> Are you seriously asking #debian how we fix the intrinsic nature of the entire human race?
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3445 [20:19:17] <Azrael_-> hi
3446 [20:19:18] <moozer> sounds ambitious...
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3448 [20:19:22] <ForceRecon> you would think after all this time that you could use linux no matter what distro and send information on your settings to default to whatever you configured based on actual program independant of distro
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3453 [20:20:49] <ForceRecon> reconfiguring is such a pain in the ass.. how about.. I save my settings. and then when I install a distro it actuall goes out, downloads the apps I want, remove the ones I don't and configures them based on my export and I have a work machine
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3455 [20:21:10] <ForceRecon> you people are so Fn smart.. you would think this would be a simple request
3456 [20:21:20] <Azrael_-> i've got multiple identical vms which run "apt-get update" regularly and i monitor the package-status using nagios. now i get quite often new update-packages, but always just for some time on a machine. then the updates vanish and show up on the next one. no pattern visible. this are the sources i have configured on every vm: replaced-url
3457 [20:21:20] <Azrael_-> this?
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3465 [20:24:32] <georgia> curious, why do you have multiple identical vms? Are they for personal use or are you sysadmining?
3466 [20:24:35] <ForceRecon> Azrael_-, do you really think out of 1679 potential people that there may even be 1 that has done this? No offence but you are creating a situation particular to you and asking and hoping that someone out of 1679 people may have had the same situation.. congrats.. there is a possibility..
3467 [20:25:03] <Azrael_-> georgia: different usages, some personal, some hosting
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3470 [20:25:48] <Azrael_-> ForceRecon: i just don't have any idea why some packages could show up for updates and then vanish again. if i had just a clue or idea how to debug this i'd be already happy
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3475 [20:27:38] <moozer> Azrael: network issues (like duuplicate macs) will give very odd behavior, and you have a non-debian mirror included: are keys and such all instaaled properly?
3476 [20:28:27] <ForceRecon> Azrael_-, that makes you better than most.. you have googled everything.. listened watch and just like me have some but not the answer.. sorry I wasted your time with a response.. I just think that people that actually try to get an answer on their own deserve some recognition.. I wish I had the answer..
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3479 [20:29:33] <georgia> Same. My recommendation is to look through your history logs to see if there is some pattern. (although you probably already have)
3480 [20:29:52] <ForceRecon> on a side note ... anyone know the proper command for installing teamviewer on debian from terminal
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3484 [20:30:00] <ForceRecon> tired of searching for answers
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3487 [20:31:25] <Azrael_-> moozer: you gave me an idea. i have an older machine which is set up just equally and there i don't see this behaviour (just checked). perhaps i'll just compare the sources and keys. (thanks for the hints with the keys)
3488 [20:32:12] <georgia> stupid question. have you tried a standard wget gitblahblah /.configure make make install?
3489 [20:32:34] <Azrael_-> georgia: meant for me?
3490 [20:32:52] <georgia> Yup.
3491 [20:33:01] <georgia> oh, wait
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3493 [20:33:15] <georgia> who was the one who asked about teamviewer? forcerecon
3494 [20:33:16] <Azrael_-> no, didn't compile anything on those machines yet
3495 [20:33:18] <Azrael_-> :)
3496 [20:33:30] <ForceRecon> georgia, yup.. installing now
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3498 [20:33:47] <ForceRecon> wrong architecture
3499 [20:34:00] <ForceRecon> oh.. sigh.. debian work with me
3500 [20:34:00] <jhutchins_wk> ,v teamviewer
3501 [20:34:07] <ForceRecon> simplicity
3502 [20:34:36] <georgia> Sorry. You're both the same color on my irc client
3503 [20:34:45] <Azrael_-> ForceRecon: do you try to install 64bit on a 32bit-kernel?
3504 [20:34:49] <judd> No package named 'teamviewer' was found in amd64.
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3508 [20:35:11] <ForceRecon> so what do I need to install on my windows 10 PC to access my debian laptop via remote desktop with simplicity and not loading a ton of crap to do exactly what debian should do based on teamviewer download default
3509 [20:35:32] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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3512 [20:35:54] <georgia> Is simplicity software or are you using it as a a noun?
3513 [20:36:00] <alekz> lol
3514 [20:36:09] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: mstsc
3515 [20:36:24] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Which should already be installed.
3516 [20:36:44] <ForceRecon> I think the team of debian needs a dumbass like me to show them what apps we really need coming from windows to work seamlessly on debian
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3518 [20:37:13] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: I think believing Windows is the example of what people need is wrong.
3519 [20:37:34] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Learn to do it the right way, the linux way. Forget Windows.
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3521 [20:37:54] <georgia> I'm going to be an asshole and say if your win10 can access your deb so can every other jackass scriptkiddie or NSA agent
3522 [20:38:12] <georgia> I KNOW RIGHT! Free as in freedom :)
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3525 [20:39:26] <georgia> What the debian team needs is better documentation and a BSP 100 miles away from me with good food.
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3527 [20:39:41] <georgia> Or 200 with terrific food.
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3529 [20:40:23] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk, I would too.. but there needs to be a SIMPLE crossover option..
3530 [20:40:25] <ForceRecon> Listen
3531 [20:40:34] <ForceRecon> we know linux is awesome, free, great etc..
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3533 [20:40:38] <ForceRecon> I am not gonna lie
3534 [20:40:46] <Azrael_-> vnc would be easy and crossover
3535 [20:40:49] <ForceRecon> linux mint has perfected what debian 8 has not
3536 [20:40:51] <alekz> ForceRecon: stick to windows
3537 [20:40:58] <ForceRecon> listen aleks
3538 [20:41:06] <ForceRecon> take the criticism or move on
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3541 [20:41:31] <ForceRecon> I have been a network engineer for window for probably longer then you have been alive
3542 [20:41:34] <ForceRecon> so,,
3543 [20:41:37] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: The problem is far less with Debian or Linux and far more with your knowledge of the computer ecosystem. The tools are there.
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3545 [20:41:51] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk, I don't disagreee
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3547 [20:42:08] <ForceRecon> but people have no clue how to click the icon and shut the fn machine off
3548 [20:42:19] <georgia> I used a linux mint live usb so a windows desktop could read my gpt partition and put that on a usb and then into my current laptop which claims to support 2.5 inch sata 3 but is a liar
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3550 [20:42:32] <ForceRecon> there needs to be a crossover that is for well.. people who are new to PCs
3551 [20:42:44] <ForceRecon> being politically correct
3552 [20:42:45] <alekz> ForceRecon: I have 16 years of experience of networking with linux, and most of the times windows makes me crazy, should I send some ideas to MS team so they do things like Debian?
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3554 [20:42:48] <georgia> When you say crossover, do you mean like, flavor?
3555 [20:43:07] <ForceRecon> alekz, once linux is mainstream YES, please do
3556 [20:43:18] <ForceRecon> until then.. well.. it sux
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3558 [20:43:27] <georgia> Windows is rotten to the core. It's my least favorite DOS.
3559 [20:43:35] <alekz> ForceRecon: mainstream VS functionality? come on!
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3561 [20:43:42] <georgia> Kinda like Apple is my least favorite distribution of BSD.
3562 [20:43:51] <ForceRecon> georgia, yeah but guess what people.. it holds like 85 % of the stream
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3564 [20:44:02] <ForceRecon> so dumb people follow the stream
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3566 [20:44:15] <georgia> By the way. Am I the only one who freaked out when they saw windows 10's "Linux developer mode" or whatever?
3567 [20:44:25] <georgia> THERE IS NO LINUX IN IT
3568 [20:44:43] <georgia> NO KERNEL. JUST BASH AND COREUTILS. MADE BY GNU.
3569 [20:44:44] <alekz> georgia: the last windows I used was XP, so haven't seen that crap
3570 [20:44:58] <ForceRecon> georgia, you would be surprised.. in 1999 I had to convert MERCK Pharama from linux to Windows
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3575 [20:45:32] * Azrael_- is still stuck with windows for desktop due to the usage of proprietary toos
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3577 [20:45:41] <ForceRecon> 37 linux server converted to 2 dc and the excess.. over 3 million dollars for the backend conversion and 40 million on desktops
3578 [20:45:45] <ForceRecon> so yeah I understand
3579 [20:45:58] <georgia> it's nice to have bash on windows. it makes it easier to dd if=dev/zero of dev/sda and install debian
3580 [20:46:06] <ForceRecon> lMAO
3581 [20:46:23] <ForceRecon> okay.. moving forward
3582 [20:46:31] <ForceRecon> its been a long time for me on linux
3583 [20:46:35] <ForceRecon> 17 years
3584 [20:46:47] <ForceRecon> I am figuring it all out once again
3585 [20:46:48] <georgia> by the way guys. DO NOT USE A LIVE USB TO TRANSFER DATA TO ANOTHER USB. It takes forever.
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3587 [20:47:41] <ForceRecon> I just don't get how companies like expressvpn have linux apps, but we see nothing in the toolbar
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3589 [20:47:55] <ForceRecon> I have to expressvpn connect in terminal
3590 [20:47:58] <ForceRecon> and I see nothing
3591 [20:48:02] <ForceRecon> but assume its working
3592 [20:48:07] <ForceRecon> silly
3593 [20:48:27] <georgia> There must be a way to monitor its status
3594 [20:48:41] <ForceRecon> linux should inform me just like windows that something is running.. on my taskbar, or panel..
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3597 [20:48:52] <ForceRecon> otherwise I have no idea if it is running or not
3598 [20:48:56] <ForceRecon> people are stupid
3599 [20:48:59] <ForceRecon> including me
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3604 [20:49:36] <georgia> did you try iftop?
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3607 [20:51:03] <georgia> ooh, or Bandwidthd. that is supposed to have a good interface. I think ncurses
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3609 [20:51:45] <georgia> replaced-url
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3612 [20:52:30] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: It does that if you set it up right.
3613 [20:52:42] <ForceRecon> you know what the problem is.. Once I install debian, get my browser, email working and configure the background to my liking along with the screensaver I feel like I have finished all I need to do
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3616 [20:52:52] <alekz> ForceRecon: who told you the system can't inform you?
3617 [20:52:56] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: If people are too stupid to learn how Linux works, they're too stupid to run it without support.
3618 [20:52:56] <ForceRecon> I can surf the web, get email and my desktop is pretty
3619 [20:53:20] <jhutchins_wk> alekz: He just assumes it because he doesn't know how it works. Everything should be Windows.
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3621 [20:53:23] <georgia> remember to make a text file out of the packages you've installed in case something craps the fan.
3622 [20:53:33] <alekz> yeah jhutchins_wk, that's just SAD
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3624 [20:53:40] <jhutchins_wk> In any case, could we get back to Debian support questions?
3625 [20:53:42] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk, well.. that would be great, but that's like saying I never drank water before and now you want to shove down my throat because its good for me..
3626 [20:54:07] <georgia> Let's not call anyone stupid.
3627 [20:54:25] <ForceRecon> people are too stupid to learn... except for us obviously.. no one want to search for the answer.. just want it to work
3628 [20:54:47] <alekz> except for you, mostly haha
3629 [20:54:59] <ForceRecon> how do you transition people to a free OS, that load everything free, without teaching them anything
3630 [20:55:08] <ForceRecon> market shares?
3631 [20:55:47] <jolt> ForceRecon: I think the hardest part is letting them try. If they are like my parents, then they just need to know how you start the browser...
3632 [20:55:51] <georgia> I used to hate water. Not water with flavor, you know, since everything potable has water in it. But plain water. I thought it tasted like metal and dirt. Now I like it because the college cafeteria spoils me with teeth-rotteny drinks.
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3634 [20:56:21] <ForceRecon> okay.. you are correct.. this is debian support
3635 [20:56:46] <georgia> Um, can you restate your question?
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3638 [20:57:30] <ebol4> the OS you're using is going to become more and more irrelevant as everything moves into the browser
3639 [20:57:35] <ForceRecon> so.. I have my machine running.. first time debian.. coming from mint.. hope 9 is better thought out.. seems like mint has their shit in order for the most part.. hope debian since it is the start of everything would be doing the same
3640 [20:57:37] <teraflops> ForceRecon: like everything there's a learning curve, but lucky you, there are a lot of resources for learning linux for free
3641 [20:57:51] <ForceRecon> teraflops, agreed...
3642 [20:58:00] <ForceRecon> but no one has time
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3647 [20:58:17] <ForceRecon> microsoft got it right.. a OS for people with no time
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3649 [20:58:41] <ebol4> microsoft gets paid the big bucks for their OS
3650 [20:58:51] <greycat> Please take the ranting and advocacy to #debian-offtopic.
3651 [20:58:58] <ForceRecon> I don't want to learn I want it to work and it does without me doing anything
3652 [20:59:12] <georgia> at the price of your soul
3653 [20:59:14] <ebol4> ForceRecon: give me money and i'll develop debian the way you want it
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3655 [20:59:15] <ForceRecon> greycat, did not know that channel existed
3656 [20:59:19] <ForceRecon> moving
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3658 [20:59:29] <ebol4> i'll do anything you want baby
3659 [20:59:35] <georgia> but I thought you wanted support...
3660 [21:00:15] <ForceRecon> I do.. and I will here.l.. but at times I need to vent..
3661 [21:00:17] <ForceRecon> so thanks
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3663 [21:00:28] <ForceRecon> see you in #debian-offtopic
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3671 [21:07:13] <ForceRecon> I think the biggest problem with linux is the necessity.. Got a laptop paid huge dollars for windows 10, blew it away and install free linux. Worked though getting my email set up and I can access the web. The thought process is " what else is there" I don't care..
3672 [21:07:24] <ForceRecon> damn wrong channel
3673 [21:07:43] <georgia> I was just on offtopic
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3675 [21:07:52] <georgia> but no one was there
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3678 [21:08:30] <wilkings> after configure exim and use echo "Testing." | mail -s Test example@gmail.com, it just skip the line, and doesnt send the email. what should be wrong?
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3680 [21:08:48] <greycat> Check the exim logs.
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3744 [21:33:19] <wilkings> greycat: replaced-url
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3746 [21:33:29] <progry> hi
3747 [21:33:37] <progry> Anyone some knowledge with Makefiles?
3748 [21:33:41] <wilkings> greycat: the logfile
3749 [21:33:52] <nkuttler> progry: just ask your question
3750 [21:33:58] <greycat> Did you read it? What did it say? What does it sound like you should do?
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3756 [21:36:48] <wilkings> greycat: look at the authentication method it seems
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3758 [21:37:38] <greycat> See, to me, it looks like the recipient thinks that you have not satisfied their IPv6 PTR record guidelines, and that you should visit their web page for more information.
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3760 [21:38:44] <ForceRecon> okay so what is everyone using to access debian over remote desktop fromwindows
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3764 [21:39:40] <greycat> We don't use windows, duh.
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3768 [21:40:12] <greycat> I also don't use "remote desktop", whatever that is, but apparently there are other people here who do, so they can try to address that half.
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3771 [21:40:20] <wilkings> greycat: must need to use dkim probably
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3775 [21:42:22] <DoctorD90> guys, if I copy the entire content of my /home to new pc /home, i will keep also get dconfig gnome, and other settings, rigth?
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3777 [21:42:56] <greycat> yes
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3781 [21:43:24] <DoctorD90> great...a little less work for me....thx
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3798 [21:49:36] <ForceRecon> okay.. why is ifconfig not working on debuan
3799 [21:49:38] <ForceRecon> debuan
3800 [21:49:42] <ForceRecon> debian
3801 [21:49:58] <greycat> because you didn't put /sbin/ in front of it?
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3803 [21:50:23] <nkuttler> why do you think it doesn't work?
3804 [21:50:26] <ForceRecon> whew...
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3811 [21:52:29] <jhutchins_wk> !handbook
3812 [21:52:29] <dpkg> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at replaced-url
3813 [21:52:35] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Have you read that?
3814 [21:53:16] <ForceRecon> you know this is why linux gets a bad wrap
3815 [21:53:23] <ForceRecon> I install what I should
3816 [21:53:26] <ForceRecon> does not work
3817 [21:53:29] <ForceRecon> connec rdp
3818 [21:53:35] <ForceRecon> cinnamon crashes
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3821 [21:53:56] <ForceRecon> you get to a point where you want to give up but it means to much to solve it
3822 [21:53:59] <ForceRecon> tiring
3823 [21:54:03] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: It's not Linux, it's you.
3824 [21:54:17] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: What about this? replaced-url
3825 [21:54:22] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk, really.. I download a package, can't install wrong architecture
3826 [21:54:35] <ForceRecon> I install what I can
3827 [21:54:44] <ForceRecon> connect rdp from windows cinnamon crashes
3828 [21:54:50] <ForceRecon> what else am I suppse to do
3829 [21:54:53] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: You keep expecting it to do what Windows does the way that Windows does it, and it's not just Windows you don't have to pay for,
3830 [21:55:02] <ForceRecon> actually what and why should I have to do it
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3832 [21:55:27] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: I really think you should just go back to Windows. Linux may not be for you.
3833 [21:55:58] <ForceRecon> Linux is for me.. I am just trying not to be a typical windows user.. No matter what the OS, shit should work
3834 [21:56:06] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: If you downloaded a non-Debian package and installed it on Debian, you shouldn't be surprised if it breaks. You shouldn't be surprised if it breaks your system.
3835 [21:56:24] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk, I downloaded what I should
3836 [21:56:27] <ForceRecon> it should work
3837 [21:56:29] <ForceRecon> it doesnt
3838 [21:56:37] <ForceRecon> I have tried multiple options
3839 [21:56:40] <ForceRecon> nothing works
3840 [21:56:41] <greycat> I've been using Linux since 1993 and I have never ever tried to "remote desktop to a Windows machine"
3841 [21:57:13] <ForceRecon> mint does not have this problem.. debian is the master of the domain.. started it all.. you would think shit should work here
3842 [21:57:22] <greycat> I'm not even clear on what that would *mean* as a concept.
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3844 [21:57:46] <ForceRecon> greycat, I am remoting from a windows machine to the linux workstation
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3846 [21:57:54] <greycat> Why?
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3848 [21:58:05] <ForceRecon> it should not take me 12 hours to get it to work and still not work.. it should fn work
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3853 [21:59:17] <ForceRecon> sudo apt-get install xrdp
3854 [21:59:28] <ForceRecon> using rdp from windows.. linux crashes
3855 [21:59:29] <greycat> ,v xrdp
3856 [21:59:30] <judd> Package: xrdp on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.5.0-2; wheezy-security: 0.5.0-2+deb7u1; jessie: 0.6.1-2; jessie-backports: 0.9.1-4~bpo8+1; sid: 0.9.1-8; stretch: 0.9.1-8; experimental: 0.9.2~20170325-1~exp1
3857 [21:59:52] <ForceRecon> and we wonder why no one uses linux.. on a grand scale.. my god..
3858 [21:59:58] <jhutchins_wk> I've used xrdp with Linux, Windows, and Mac. Works fine. Doesn't crash.
3859 [22:00:13] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Idiot. I run thousands of Linux servers. Literally.
3860 [22:00:43] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: You want grand scale? Try every android phone in the world.
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3862 [22:00:47] <ForceRecon> yeah no offence boss but there is a reason that 2.09 % of the world uses linux
3863 [22:00:59] <greycat> That statistic is just plain wrong.
3864 [22:01:03] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Offense taken.
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3866 [22:01:22] <ForceRecon> windows hold 75% of the market for a reason..
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3870 [22:01:32] <jhutchins_wk> So go use Windows.
3871 [22:01:34] <ForceRecon> I am trying here.. really trying
3872 [22:01:41] <ForceRecon> no.. I will figure it out
3873 [22:01:43] <Vizva> jhutchins_wk he have a opinion but you insult him
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3876 [22:02:03] <ForceRecon> Vizva, I did not insult him, maybe you.. I am talking real numbers here
3877 [22:02:08] <jhutchins_wk> Vizva: I am tired of hearing how Debian should work like windows instead of him asking how it actually works.
3878 [22:02:15] <greycat> Windows does not hold 75% of "the market" if you broaden your view of the market. Consider servers, cloud Amazon shit, and Android phones.
3879 [22:02:20] <ForceRecon> I just wiped this machine to use debian, committed.. enough said
3880 [22:02:28] <Vizva> you are easy to upset
3881 [22:02:36] <Vizva> and you call him idiot
3882 [22:02:43] <Vizva> i think its an insult
3883 [22:02:44] <ForceRecon> no.. but I was not talking to you and you chimed in
3884 [22:02:57] <ForceRecon> no arguing..
3885 [22:03:02] <ForceRecon> I want it to work..
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3887 [22:03:17] <TomTomTosch> so you've said 20 times already.
3888 [22:03:22] <ForceRecon> it should not be this difficult
3889 [22:03:22] <jhutchins_wk> Vizva: You are correct. After watching his posts for two days, I called him an idiot for saying no one uses Linux on a grand scale.
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3891 [22:03:41] <ForceRecon> oh boy.. arent we all critics
3892 [22:03:46] <greycat> Have you considered approaching the problem as a support problem instead of a "whine at Debian" problem? What are the symptoms? How do you reproduce it? What do the logs say?
3893 [22:03:47] <Vizva> there is a feature on irc its called /ignore
3894 [22:03:49] <ForceRecon> is there any decent commentary
3895 [22:04:13] <jhutchins_wk> Debian: 1918 hits per day on distrowatch.
3896 [22:04:17] <Vizva> and i can leave my place for a coffee or harder ;)
3897 [22:04:17] <ForceRecon> I am here.. trying to learn this..
3898 [22:04:29] <ForceRecon> how about taking it in stride and helping..
3899 [22:04:35] <mtn> mint was too hard. I know, I will go use Debian!
3900 [22:04:42] <jhutchins_wk> Vizva: Until recently I was trying to help him, but he won't learn.
3901 [22:04:54] <ForceRecon> mint was easy.. this is new.. but I still think it should be easy
3902 [22:05:01] <Vizva> so let him do whats his freedom is
3903 [22:05:20] <greycat> ForceRecon: You said cinnamon (gnome) crashes. What video chipset is this? Does it require nonfree firmware? Have you installed that, if needed?
3904 [22:05:21] <ForceRecon> what is no one allowed to have an opinion around here
3905 [22:05:34] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: You have been demanding help, criticising Debian groundlessly, and telling us all how Debian "should" work for two days now.
3906 [22:05:37] <greycat> ForceRecon: have you installed any other firmware that the kernel is requesting in dmesg?
3907 [22:05:42] <ForceRecon> hey grey.. I have no freaking idea.. I am learning
3908 [22:06:02] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: No, you obviously are NOT learning.
3909 [22:06:13] <ForceRecon> oh, so I am here for like what 3 days
3910 [22:06:23] <greycat> ForceRecon: lspci -nn | grep VGA
3911 [22:06:24] <ForceRecon> am I suppose to know everything and comment on nothing
3912 [22:06:28] <greycat> ForceRecon: dmesg | grep -i firmware
3913 [22:06:39] <greycat> Stop flaming and start solving.
3914 [22:06:41] <ForceRecon> christ.. you throw out command I have no clue about..
3915 [22:06:51] <greycat> So run them.
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3917 [22:07:33] <ForceRecon> lspci -nn | grep VGA
3918 [22:07:33] <ForceRecon> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV635/M86 [Mobility Radeon HD 3650] [1002:9591]
3919 [22:07:43] <Vizva> ForceRecon i think you miss some basic commands and knowledge, thats maybe the problem, you should read more about linux
3920 [22:07:55] <ForceRecon> teach me why I run them and how to learn what they mean
3921 [22:08:10] <greycat> man lspci
3922 [22:08:11] <greycat> man dmesg
3923 [22:08:16] <alekz> man man
3924 [22:08:17] <alekz> lol
3925 [22:08:20] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Try reading some of the links you've been given for two days now. One would be a good start.
3926 [22:08:22] <greycat> Yes, that one too.
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3933 [22:08:58] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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3938 [22:09:50] <ForceRecon> I am going to shut up now, ask for help and not comment on anything other than what you tell me..
3939 [22:09:54] <ForceRecon> deal
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3942 [22:10:17] <greycat> ,pciid 1002:9591
3943 [22:10:18] <judd> [1002:9591] is 'RV635/M86 [Mobility Radeon HD 3650]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in jessie. See also replaced-url
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3945 [22:10:33] <mutante> so ssh-keygen lets me create ed25519 type keys but ssh-add just cant load them (yet)? "communication with agent failed"
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3948 [22:11:46] <alekz> ForceRecon: go to replaced-url
3949 [22:11:53] <alekz> here is a more complex type of help
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3951 [22:12:53] <ForceRecon> This site can’t be reached
3952 [22:12:53] <ForceRecon> forum.debian.net’s server DNS address could not be found.
3953 [22:12:54] <ForceRecon> Did you mean replaced-url
3954 [22:12:54] <ForceRecon> Search Google for forum debian net
3955 [22:12:54] <ForceRecon> ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
3956 [22:12:54] *** ForceRecon was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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3958 [22:13:06] <greycat> I'm looking through URLs and google searches trying to figure out whether your Radeon HD 3650 needs the proprietary ATI driver or not.
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3960 [22:13:17] <Vizva> ForceRecon i did that remote yesterday
3961 [22:13:20] <greycat> ... and of course you go and get kicked as soon as I type.
3962 [22:13:21] <alekz> yes, forums, sorry
3963 [22:13:34] <alekz> lol
3964 [22:14:10] <Vizva> ForceRecon you wanna control windows or linux?
3965 [22:14:35] <greycat> He hasn't rejoined yet.
3966 [22:14:45] <Vizva> ah thx
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3968 [22:15:09] <alekz> and hopefully he won't
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3970 [22:15:17] <Vizva> ForceRecon you wanna control windows or linux?
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3972 [22:15:24] <Vizva> with remote
3973 [22:15:27] <alekz> I'm not that lucky xD
3974 [22:15:37] <ForceRecon> I want to control Debian Linux via windows over teamviewer
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3977 [22:15:52] <ForceRecon> I cannot install teamviewer on debian for some architecture reason
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3980 [22:16:02] <mutante> answering my own question: so it's because i use Gnome and i should blame "seahorse" for not supporting ed25519... sigh
3981 [22:16:03] <ForceRecon> I have tried everything I can find googling issue
3982 [22:16:03] <Vizva> moment
3983 [22:16:18] <TomTomTosch> mutante: works for me on jessie.
3984 [22:16:22] <TomTomTosch> mutante: heh
3985 [22:16:25] <ForceRecon> at this point i figured I would try something else.. tiger etc..
3986 [22:16:28] <ForceRecon> not working
3987 [22:16:33] <ForceRecon> not sure why
3988 [22:16:41] <Vizva> ForceRecon why it must to be teamviewer?
3989 [22:16:47] <mutante> TomTomTosch: apparently it's because seahorse provides ssh-add.. and i am supposed to use ssh-agent.. afaict
3990 [22:17:02] <ForceRecon> I use TV on my Windows PC to connect to a lot of clients.
3991 [22:17:09] <ForceRecon> I would like it to work on Debian
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3993 [22:17:14] <mutante> bug was reported in 2014 ... sigh again
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3995 [22:17:44] <TomTomTosch> that's annoying.
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3997 [22:17:56] <Vizva> Debian have his packets
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3999 [22:18:07] <greycat> ForceRecon: A pastebin of the output of "dmesg | grep -i firmware" would be helpful.
4000 [22:18:12] <Vizva> you should use them or use another solution
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4003 [22:19:06] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
4004 [22:19:38] <greycat> *sigh* seriously...
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4008 [22:19:53] <ForceRecon> greycat, what?
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4010 [22:20:06] <greycat> Please use a pastebin that can actually be *opened* in all browsers.
4011 [22:20:15] <greycat> replaced-url
4012 [22:20:15] <Vizva> ForceRecon KRDC on Debian for example
4013 [22:20:39] <ForceRecon> amazingly pastebin cannot be opened in all browsers hence why I went to hastebin because on spotchat they don't allow pastebin
4014 [22:20:45] <strive> hhh
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4016 [22:21:01] <greycat> pastebin.com is hated by many, but hastebin is WORSE
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4018 [22:21:13] <Pepe__> hello?
4019 [22:21:16] <greycat> Why in the FUCK anyone would EVER use that is completely beyond me.
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4021 [22:21:30] <greycat> Go ahead, try in links. Try in elinks. Try in w3m.
4022 [22:21:33] <alekz> lol
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4024 [22:21:50] <greycat> Err, meant lynx the first time, but try links too.
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4026 [22:22:13] <galex-713> Hi
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4028 [22:22:37] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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4030 [22:23:26] <greycat> Hmm, ok. Looks like you're not missing any firmware.
4031 [22:25:30] <Vizva> ForceRecon and for the server use x11vnc(for linux)
4032 [22:25:56] <Vizva> if you use windows you have to search a program which do the same work
4033 [22:26:02] <mutante> is there an "alternative to ssh-add on gnome" that can load ssh keys for me but is not seahorse based? i want something differnt because replaced-url
4034 [22:26:16] <ForceRecon> I am willing to do whatever.,.
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4038 [22:26:39] <Vizva> ForceRecon x11 vnc is eaasy simply start in a terminal
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4040 [22:26:47] <ForceRecon> I just don't understand why teamviewer works for all the other distros I have used and I can't even get it to install on debian
4041 [22:26:54] <ForceRecon> but.. I will do what you say
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4045 [22:27:21] <Vizva> i did use teamviewer some many years ago
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4048 [22:27:29] <Vizva> maybe in linux but i forgot
4049 [22:27:36] <Vizva> how
4050 [22:27:40] <ForceRecon> x11vnc is installed
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4053 [22:28:00] <ForceRecon> should I install tigervnc on windows for usage with x11vnc>?
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4055 [22:28:19] <Vizva> if you have a modem with firewall or things like that you must open port 5900
4056 [22:28:23] <ForceRecon> can I use rdp on windows default for x11vnc on linux
4057 [22:28:43] <Vizva> maybe look that they do the same work
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4065 [22:30:19] <Vizva> ForceRecon in the first time you want to use teamviewer where on linux or windows?
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4071 [22:31:25] <ForceRecon> Vizva, I was using tv on windows to connect to linux mint just fine the other day.. I decided to bite the bullet and move to debian,..
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4074 [22:31:40] <ForceRecon> I committed to debian because I wanted to
4075 [22:31:44] <ForceRecon> here I am
4076 [22:31:51] <Vizva> yes and which program do it in mint?
4077 [22:32:03] <ForceRecon> I need to tv into debian, local lan via TV if possible
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4081 [22:32:26] <ForceRecon> Vizva, TV did it with mint no issues from windows 10
4082 [22:32:30] <Vizva> which program is the server in mint before
4083 [22:32:43] <ForceRecon> I am sure TV would work with debian if I could just get the damn thing installed
4084 [22:32:54] <ForceRecon> TV on both Vizva
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4087 [22:33:08] <Vizva> i think its a wine thing
4088 [22:33:09] <galex-713_> Hi, how can I watch a sbs 3D movie on debian with a passive interlaced monitor?
4089 [22:33:16] <Vizva> teamviewer for wine?
4090 [22:33:23] <CyberGabber> ForceRecon: what did yoe mean by I cannot install teamviewer on debian for some
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4092 [22:33:39] <TomTomTosch> you just keep repeating the same things. show actual output or nobody will be able to help you.
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4094 [22:33:50] <CyberGabber> architecture reason
4095 [22:33:51] <ForceRecon> CyberGabber, every time I download tv for debian it says wrong architecure
4096 [22:33:52] <Vizva> no there are deb files
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4098 [22:34:13] <CyberGabber> ForceRecon: is it ARM?
4099 [22:34:16] <TomTomTosch> ForceRecon: because teamviewer is a 32 bit package. it needs multiarch enabled.
4100 [22:34:37] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
4101 [22:34:42] <ForceRecon> what does it say there
4102 [22:34:52] <ForceRecon> v12.0.76279 (deb 32-Bit / 64-Bit Multiarch)
4103 [22:35:00] <ForceRecon> is this a code I should know
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4105 [22:35:15] <greycat> The URL also has i386 in it.
4106 [22:35:16] <TomTomTosch> yes, MULTIARCh. enable it. dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get update;
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4108 [22:35:24] <greycat> !multiarch
4109 [22:35:24] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
4110 [22:35:30] <ForceRecon> am i suppose to know that my OS is 64 bit since I installed it but the download package cannot figure it out
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4112 [22:35:38] <greycat> To run i386 programs on an amd64 install, follow dpkg's advice ^^
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4114 [22:36:07] <Vizva> ForceRecon looks like your system cant run 32bit binaries
4115 [22:36:24] <greycat> If you aren't sure what arch you're using, *MY* preferred command is "file /bin/ls"
4116 [22:36:30] <greycat> Other people dislike that one.
4117 [22:36:58] <ForceRecon> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=a0823e17cafbe5b2296346216445566840fdfd88, stripped
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4119 [22:37:09] <CyberGabber> and for "Older 64-bit DEB-systems without Multiarch (Ubuntu 12.03, Debian 6 and below)" follow replaced-url
4120 [22:37:10] <greycat> So you're on amd64 (as expected).
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4122 [22:37:24] <greycat> CyberGabber: that doesn't apply in this case
4123 [22:37:32] <Vizva> ForceRecon replaced-url
4124 [22:37:51] <Vizva> you need to read that and there are the commands
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4129 [22:39:00] <TomTomTosch> they have alredy been posted three times.
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4134 [22:40:28] <ForceRecon> what has been posted 3 times
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4137 [22:41:41] <Vizva> ForceRecon or install virtualbox and install a new system with 32-bit ;), you can use it for other scenario too and the you debian stay clean because deb packets out of the debian repository are risky
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4140 [22:42:34] <ForceRecon> Vizva, you are being awesome.. really.. but there should be no reason this should not work oob
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4143 [22:42:41] <Vizva> i have a debian on virtualbox and use it for all sanbox operations
4144 [22:42:49] <Vizva> sandbox
4145 [22:42:58] <ForceRecon> I should not have to read ions of docs to get a app to work on an OS
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4149 [22:43:15] <Vizva> this app isnt for debian :)
4150 [22:43:17] <alekz> "sandbox"
4151 [22:43:20] <TomTomTosch> debian is not responsible for the usability or documentation of teamviewer..
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4153 [22:43:31] <TomTomTosch> no affiliation.
4154 [22:43:31] <alekz> you can't even check your firmware, and you perform sandbox ops
4155 [22:43:33] <alekz> come on!
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4157 [22:43:46] <ForceRecon> okay TomTomTosch so basically I either have a monitor on hand or what not use debian>
4158 [22:44:06] <TomTomTosch> what?
4159 [22:44:13] <ForceRecon> alekz, stfu and try helping not being a problem
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4161 [22:44:34] <alekz> ForceRecon: I'm not being a problem, I'm mocking hahaha
4162 [22:44:35] <teraflops> ForceRecon: your endless ranting is becoming annoying mate
4163 [22:44:36] <Vizva> ForceRecon example youre a new user and your debiaan willl work bad, maybe it was the teamviewer installation
4164 [22:44:53] <ForceRecon> TomTomTosch, I should not have to go thru this much trouble to get a world known product to work on debian
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4167 [22:45:13] <TomTomTosch> how is that my problem?
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4169 [22:45:28] <Vizva> ForceRecon there are reasons because teamviwer isnt a debian program
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4171 [22:45:36] <ForceRecon> sorry teraflops are you all just a bunch of know it alls or can you actually answer any question that does not end in google it or read this
4172 [22:45:45] <transhuman> ok so I tried export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.8 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 and it still tells me the version of gcc I am using it too new? Anyone, thanks in advance
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4174 [22:46:03] <alekz> Vizva: I'll just start ignoring this guy, I can't believe there's ppl trying to help him, even when he can't google his "issues"
4175 [22:46:07] <TomTomTosch> ForceRecon: you got answers to technical questions, all your ranting is just annoying people.
4176 [22:46:23] <ForceRecon> Vizva, is the only person here that has some patience and no attitude so how about the rest of you just stfu and learn from him/her
4177 [22:46:24] <teraflops> ForceRecon: no offense intended, but this is how linux (debian in this very case) works
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4180 [22:46:52] <ForceRecon> christ.. just trying to figure out one issue.. geez
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4182 [22:47:10] <ForceRecon> you are all on this channel to what? talk to people who know what they are doing?
4183 [22:47:23] <Vizva> ForceRecon you did promise stop everything out of advices ;)
4184 [22:47:25] <ForceRecon> This is a HELP channel.. so how about helping
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4186 [22:47:39] <ForceRecon> well I am getting beat up here..
4187 [22:47:42] <teraflops> ForceRecon: yeah this is a help channel, read the topic
4188 [22:47:49] <ForceRecon> I just want to figure this shit out
4189 [22:47:53] <alekz> ForceRecon: we are here to try to help ppl, with real issues, those who come after reading and troubleshooting a lot
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4191 [22:48:11] <Vizva> ForceRecon what you want to do its near like a hack, this isnt a hack channel
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4193 [22:48:24] <ForceRecon> alekz, if I read everything and had years to troubleshoot I would not waste my time here asking anything
4194 [22:48:30] <babilen> ForceRecon: What additional help do you require? You have been provided with the relevant links to documentation and you have also been given the exact commands you have to run.
4195 [22:48:52] <alekz> ForceRecon: if you don't read, you'll never learn :)
4196 [22:48:53] <teraflops> helping != handholding/spponfeeding
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4198 [22:48:57] <teraflops> spoon*
4199 [22:49:02] <babilen> (and the last couple of minutes has been little but a conversation about the nature of the help that has been provided)
4200 [22:49:13] <Vizva> ForceRecon do it the debian way or do it the hack way but then you cannot ask here and complain about anything
4201 [22:49:17] <ForceRecon> I am going away now.. I am gonna read everything and fix it on my own.. seems like that is what linux is about..
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4203 [22:49:22] <ForceRecon> thanks for your help
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4205 [22:49:31] <teraflops> ForceRecon: most of the time
4206 [22:49:32] <Vizva> linux is good
4207 [22:49:33] <alekz> yes, that linux about ForceRecon x)
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4209 [22:49:52] <alekz> and if you learn, you'll find it much more powerfull tnat win
4210 [22:49:58] <babilen> The fact that one has to learn how to use a system in order to, well, use it is nothing that's specific to Linux.
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4213 [22:50:17] <babilen> Either way, good luck
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4215 [22:50:21] <Vizva> youre windows spoiled
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4218 [22:51:29] <Vizva> you cannot help everyone - accept it !
4219 [22:51:31] <Vizva> :)
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4226 [22:53:30] <ForceRecon> Oh I am not leaving.. gonna learn everything and then come back.. I am a tick on your ass now
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4230 [22:53:57] <greycat> Please remember that we're all volunteers with limited resources and time, and that not all of us know everything.
4231 [22:54:14] <Vizva> ForceRecon i see you like to troll a little bit :)
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4234 [22:54:49] <alekz> gathering more troll tools, lol
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4236 [22:55:04] <Vizva> and we dont want to rape debian
4237 [22:55:40] <teraflops> ForceRecon: fair enough ;D
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4263 [23:06:28] <diis> NickServ identify diis
4264 [23:06:36] <diis> oops
4265 [23:06:40] <alekz> lol
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4302 [23:22:17] <ForceRecon> I figured it out
4303 [23:22:22] <ForceRecon> how about that
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4308 [23:23:27] <ForceRecon> I am connected via windows 10 to debian over anydesk option instead of teamviewer which I got to work but the access was very slow.. anydesk works on both platforms, quicker and solid.. free..
4309 [23:24:35] <alekz> there you go
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4328 [23:31:33] <OS-28992> i am looking for offsec irc
4329 [23:31:48] <OS-28992> OSCP irc channel
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4334 [23:32:23] <missmbob> OS-28992: too hard to google it?
4335 [23:32:43] <OS-28992> what irc is this
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4338 [23:32:59] <OS-28992> @missmbob
4339 [23:33:12] <missmbob> the one where i put you on /ignore
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4350 [23:37:48] <ForceRecon> what is the command you run after changing sources.list aptitude something
4351 [23:38:00] <missmbob> update
4352 [23:38:01] <mutante> ForceRecon: apt-get update
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4365 [23:42:27] <ForceRecon> is this accurate
4366 [23:42:28] <ForceRecon> replaced-url
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4376 [23:47:23] <missmbob> dpkg jessie->stretch
4377 [23:47:23] <dpkg> Remember that Debian 9 "Stretch" is still pre-release and that security support will not always be timely. Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <stretch release notes> replaced-url
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4384 [23:48:21] <missmbob> if you have to ask which command you need to run after changing sources.list you shouldnt do it. you're too new
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4388 [23:49:55] <ForceRecon> thanks missmbob but unless I try I won't learn.. crash and burn, rebuild.. figure it out.. that's the linux way!
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4390 [23:50:50] <ForceRecon> have to start some place.. I was told debian was the place to start.. here I am.. Ill figure it out.. all I ask is that if I do ask a question that I get an answer and forego the commentary..
4391 [23:51:27] <syco_> you could try to rtfm as well
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4395 [23:53:06] <ForceRecon> good read - replaced-url
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4402 [23:55:07] <babilen> ForceRecon: I would recommend to familiarise you with replaced-url
4403 [23:56:31] <ForceRecon> bookmarked
4404 [23:56:33] <ForceRecon> thanks
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