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• 11[00:08:03] <newlinux_> Hi I get bad archive mirror on Debian 8 jessie install. What should I do?
• 12[00:08:15] <newlinux_> I already tried different mirrors
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• 14[00:08:50] <yar1> Can you ping for example google.com ?
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• 16[00:09:09] <newlinux_> How can I do that?
• 17[00:09:11] <yar1> Type: ping google.com in the terminal :)
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• 19[00:09:17] <TomTomTo1> paste the output of apt update to paste.debian.net, please.
• 20[00:09:24] <newlinux_> How do I bring the terminal up?
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• 24[00:10:12] <yar1> Ohh, did you install Debian 8 Jessie or do you get this Error DURING the install?
• 25[00:10:31] <newlinux_> I get this error during the install
• 26[00:11:05] <yar1> Oh Okay.. Then try to press CTRL+ALT+F3 or another F-Key.
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• 28[00:11:12] <yar1> Then you should see a Commandline
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• 32[00:12:56] <newlinux_> ping: bad address google.com
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• 34[00:13:15] <Brigo> newlinux_, you have a network problem
• 35[00:13:22] <yar1> Ah, okay.. There's the problem! What's the output of "ip a"?
• 36[00:13:31] <twostone> try ip addr. Post output.
• 37[00:14:10] <newlinux_> ip a?
• 38[00:14:18] <Brigo> newlinux_, yes, in that shell
• 39[00:14:18] <yar1> ip a is the same as ip addr, just in short and will output you the network information
• 40[00:14:52] <newlinux_> This has something to do with linux, because if I reboot now to windows the internet connection works perfect.
• 41[00:15:56] <newlinux_> give me 2 min I will write it down
• 42[00:15:56] <Brigo> newlinux_, maybe, but we don't know what the problem is yet.
• 43[00:15:58] <Brigo> newlinux_, can you try 'ping 8.8.8.8' too, please?
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• 45[00:16:26] <twostone> I'm guessing, broadcom or realtek NICs... but yeah, try Brigo's ping first.
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• 47[00:16:42] <newlinux_> ping 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
• 48[00:16:46] <newlinux_> and nothing more
• 49[00:17:12] <Brigo> newlinux_, press control+c
• 50[00:17:25] <yar1> Okay, then you probably doesn't have a working network connection and that's the problem. Are you connected via W-LAN or Ethernet?
• 51[00:17:36] <Brigo> newlinux_, how are you connected? wifi?
• 52[00:17:43] <Brigo> yar1, :)
• 53[00:17:49] <newlinux_> yar1: cable without any firewall or so
• 54[00:17:57] <newlinux_> cable direct to modem
• 55[00:18:02] <yar1> Okay, that's good
• 56[00:18:22] <newlinux_> so you dont want the ip a output from me?
• 57[00:18:33] <yar1> maybe just a simple "systemctl restart networking" will assign you an ip address...
• 58[00:18:52] <yar1> You don't really need to write the whole output down. Just look there if an ip address got assigned to you
• 59[00:18:54] <Brigo> or rebooting
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• 61[00:19:14] <Brigo> newlinux_, any problem during the network configuration in the installation process?
• 62[00:19:24] <newlinux_> Brigo: no
• 63[00:19:48] <newlinux_> should I try "systemctl restart networking"?
• 64[00:20:00] <Brigo> newlinux_, yes.
• 65[00:20:11] <Brigo> you have nothing to lose :)
• 66[00:20:20] <yar1> Yup, that sometimes solves a lot of networking problems, at least from my experience :D
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• 68[00:20:26] <newlinux_> "/bin/sh: systemctl: not found"
• 69[00:20:36] <yar1> then try service networking restart
• 70[00:21:05] <newlinux_> "/bin/sh: service: not found"
• 71[00:21:11] <Brigo> that's weird.
• 72[00:21:18] <yar1> o.O I don't think that's normal behaviour :D
• 73[00:21:23] <Brigo> the base system is not installed
• 74[00:21:23] <yar1> Try restarting then
• 75[00:21:24] <twostone> is not. Still in install.
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• 77[00:21:35] <newlinux_> netinstall btw
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• 79[00:21:40] <Brigo> first install the base system then use the network
• 80[00:22:01] <twostone> So, is your modem a real modem or in fact a router?
• 81[00:22:26] <newlinux_> twostone: whats the different?
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• 86[00:23:57] <newlinux_> I think I got realtek btw
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• 89[00:25:18] <twostone> A modem will not provide you with an IP adress. It will depend on an other machine to initiate the connection to your ISP, and that connection can only be shared by the initiatior, wheres the router is both: The link to your provider, initiator of said connection and a distribution point. If your "modem" has more than one ethernet port, it is a router.
• 90[00:26:14] <newlinux_> twostone: yea there is more then one ethernet ports, you can have more then one cable connected to it.
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• 92[00:27:15] <twostone> It is a router then. It also serves as WiFi access point, does it not? That is usually a dead giveaway, a modem cannot do that.
• 93[00:27:57] <newlinux_> twostone: No it dont serve any wifi.
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• 95[00:28:17] <newlinux_> twostone: only cable
• 96[00:28:24] <twostone> Does it have its own IP adress?
• 97[00:28:50] <newlinux_> twostone: yes I think so, but I have no dedicated IP address from the internet provider.
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• 99[00:29:40] <newlinux_> twostone: like I said, I got no problem with windows 10.
• 100[00:30:08] <twostone> hardly matters. So, you may need a different netinstall, one with non-free kernel modules integrated.
• 101[00:30:08] <Brigo> newlinux_, that could be because you have a 'driver'
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• 103[00:30:18] <Brigo> i know of one
• 104[00:30:26] <Brigo> replaced-url
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• 107[00:31:24] <twostone> I bow to your google-fu...
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• 109[00:32:00] <newlinux_> Brigo: replaced-url
• 110[00:32:20] <Brigo> newlinux_, if your computer is an amd64, yes.
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• 112[00:32:58] <Brigo> twostone, are you sure that non-free can solve this problem?
• 113[00:33:08] <twostone> sounds like.
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• 115[00:33:31] <twostone> We haven't done all test we could, but yes, I am confident.
• 116[00:33:44] <newlinux_> twostone: What more test can we do?
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• 118[00:33:50] <yar1> Just to be sure... You already tried rebooting?
• 119[00:34:04] <newlinux_> yar1: Can I rebooting during install?
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• 121[00:34:18] <twostone> sure you can.
• 122[00:34:26] <Brigo> XD
• 123[00:34:27] <TomTomTo1> the ip a output would be neat.
• 124[00:34:28] <Brigo> you can try
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• 127[00:34:51] <newlinux_> twostone: I use LVM encrypted disk, But that should not matter?
• 128[00:35:33] <yar1> Of course you can reboot during the install :D but as TomTomTo1 said, the ip a output could help, too.. If it's too much typing just imgur :D
• 129[00:36:43] <twostone> nwelinux: it should not interfer with your network connection. But then again, Trump became president, so there you have it.
• 130[00:36:59] <newlinux_> Im in UEFI installer menu now, How do I continue the install now?
• 131[00:37:14] <twostone> you don't. just restart installation.
• 132[00:37:21] <newlinux_> Graphical install again?
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• 134[00:37:50] <twostone> sure, if that's...
• 135[00:37:52] <newlinux_> I boot from the USB and got the Installer menu
• 136[00:38:15] <yar1> It doesn't matter, I prefer the "text" install, but... not such a big difference from graphical to text, just more fancy :D
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• 138[00:39:12] <twostone> graphical won't work over RS232... beside the point.
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• 141[00:39:43] <newlinux_> it ask me for root password again
• 142[00:39:56] <newlinux_> is this really the way to continue the install?
• 143[00:40:05] <yar1> You are not continuing it
• 144[00:40:13] <yar1> just start over again
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• 147[00:40:43] <TomTomTo1> you can skip steps in expert mode but you should know what you are doing there.
• 148[00:40:48] <twostone> There's hardly a way to continue. You reboot, you start again.
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• 150[00:42:06] <twostone> yeah, like that. fits.
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• 156[00:44:27] <newlinux_> Last time I installed debian on this machine, I used the same netinstall.
• 157[00:44:36] <Lugal1> what compiler was used to compile Debian? and could Debian be faster if it was made with another compiler?
• 158[00:44:55] <newlinux_> I got the internet connection to work after reboot the system. Because I first got problem with it.
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• 160[00:45:26] <Brigo> newlinux_, then you are good to go :)
• 161[00:45:31] <yar1> So it works now? :)
• 162[00:45:34] <newlinux_> no
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• 164[00:45:38] <Brigo> Lugal1, maybe if you know what you are doing.
• 165[00:45:50] <newlinux_> Last time I installed debian. Not this time.
• 166[00:45:56] <yar1> Oh okay^^
• 167[00:46:03] <Brigo> Lugal1, try first compiling just the kernel and with some benchmarks.
• 168[00:46:08] <twostone> mayhap you try the non-free netinstall.
• 169[00:46:25] <newlinux_> twostone: That provides the realtek ethernet drivers?
• 170[00:46:27] <Brigo> twostone, why? it is already working.
• 171[00:46:55] <Brigo> newlinux_, most likely if the free ones don't.
• 172[00:46:56] <twostone> Brigo: is it really?
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• 174[00:47:13] <Brigo> twostone, ah, ok, i get it wrong.
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• 176[00:48:36] <Lugal1> was Debian compiled with GCC like the other distros?
• 177[00:48:52] <newlinux_> includes non-free firmware for extra support for some awkward hardware.
• 178[00:48:54] <newlinux_> lol
• 179[00:49:26] <newlinux_> "awkward hardware" because the official one doesnt include drivers for new computers
• 180[00:49:46] <newlinux_> sounds cool
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• 182[00:50:11] <twostone> You may boot to win10, have a look at your ip adress there, but if you don't have to manually initiate a connection to your ISP, you'll have a router. Since you're unable to ping 8.8.8.8, it means you have problems with your network. Most times, it is debian and the non-free firmware policy.
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• 185[00:51:27] <newlinux_> twostone: What will my ip adress do?
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• 188[00:52:31] <twostone> hopefully go fetch me another coffee. It might also give us confirmation, that you're using a router instead of a modem, but that is almost a given.
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• 191[00:53:12] <newlinux_> now the mirrors works
• 192[00:53:17] <newlinux_> after reboot ofc
• 193[00:53:28] <twostone> slow DHCP?
• 194[00:53:41] <yar1> Hah! The magic-fix-reboot again!
• 195[00:53:55] <newlinux_> twostone: What do you mean with slow DHCP?
• 196[00:53:58] <alekz> haha
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• 198[00:54:36] <yar1> DHCP is the protocol which automatically assigns the devices in your network an IP address
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• 200[00:54:52] <newlinux_> All I can say I never got any problem with win10 :) It works very fast!
• 201[00:55:02] <twostone> assumption: Your DHCP (router) failed to provide in answer in time because it still had a configured, active lease for that MAC.
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• 203[00:55:35] <newlinux_> twostone: I dont think so, we have modern router installed here.
• 204[00:55:37] <twostone> Thus, you effectively had no network.
• 205[00:56:23] <newlinux_> twostone: If I went to windows 10 or OSX, I would.
• 206[00:56:47] <twostone> I also got a fairly modern box off of my ISP, but it still cannot do static mappings reliably. Most of the time, it is still a role of the dice, regardless of the configuration.
• 207[00:57:09] <twostone> modern does not equal good, or even working.
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• 209[00:57:25] <newlinux_> twostone: So why I never get any problem during windows 10 install then?
• 210[00:57:39] <twostone> roll of the dice, not role. Damn, it's late.
• 211[00:57:55] <alekz> lol
• 212[00:58:01] <newlinux_> twostone: and _every time_ I install debian, I got the same error.
• 213[00:58:03] <twostone> newlinux: Used a win10 netinstall iso? doubt it.
• 214[00:58:33] <TomTomTo1> how should we know? not like you provided any information, twostone has been guessing all this time.
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• 217[00:59:27] <newlinux_> twostone: Actually once I was lucky and get debian mirrors to work.
• 218[00:59:42] <newlinux_> With no reboot
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• 220[01:00:02] <twostone> Were you in windows, right before you rebooted and started the install?
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• 222[01:00:43] <newlinux_> twostone: Are you talking about this install?
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• 224[01:02:00] <twostone> There I go with the guessing again, but... I once had a similar problem dual booting, where I assigned different MAC adresses to a bond interface. Switch always locked me out, if I did not wait long enough for its MAC cache to empty.
• 225[01:02:39] <twostone> Ah, nevermind. If it works, all the better.
• 226[01:02:53] <twostone> Sometimes, it just is. No reason.
• 227[01:03:10] <twostone> Time for me to hit the pillow.
• 228[01:03:19] <twostone> good night everyone.
• 229[01:03:24] <alekz> have a good one twostone
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• 234[01:04:48] <newlinux_> So do I really need the non-free netinstall? Or would I working better with me system?
• 235[01:04:51] <newlinux_> my ys
• 236[01:04:52] <newlinux_> ss
• 237[01:04:54] <newlinux_> system
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• 239[01:05:56] <TomTomTo1> you don't need it if your network card works without.
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• 274[01:34:23] <yar1> What are you using for a Desktop Environment (IF you use on! :D)
• 275[01:41:20] <bazhang> yar1, need help installing, or just polling the entire channel
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• 277[01:43:03] <yar1> I'm just curious what is used..
• 278[01:43:20] <sypher> !polls
• 279[01:43:21] <dpkg> "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>.
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• 281[01:43:39] <bazhang> yar1, #debian-offtopic for polls
• 282[01:43:55] <yar1> Ups, I'm sorry!
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• 296[01:57:41] <p000000000> anyone know whats holding up the release of Stretch?
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• 304[02:00:55] <Epakai> it's not ready yet
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• 308[02:01:28] <rudi_s> p000000000: release-critical bugs
• 309[02:01:39] <p000000000> thanks rudi
• 310[02:01:55] <rudi_s> Which of course can be fixed by anybody ;-)
• 311[02:02:33] <p000000000> they don't need me sabotaging it ;)
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• 316[02:03:28] * Bl4ckC0r3 Hi
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• 319[02:04:20] <ILikeUnity7> Hi! I'm considering switching to Debian from Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
• 320[02:05:03] <bazhang> get the net install
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• 322[02:05:56] <ILikeUnity7> I'm wondering about support. There's a lot of support for Ubuntu, but what about Debian?
• 323[02:06:07] <bazhang> samers
• 324[02:06:46] <ILikeUnity7> ?
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• 326[02:07:21] <ILikeUnity7> Hi, Guest61332!
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• 329[02:07:41] <SuperTramp83> ILikeUnity7, there is no much difference, except maybe, depending on your DE, you will need to learn 4 terminal commands (apt)..
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• 333[02:07:48] <ILikeUnity7> Nice name! Much better than Guest
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• 335[02:08:07] <ILikeUnity7> I use the command line a lot, in fact I'm using a CLI IRC client.
• 336[02:08:23] <SuperTramp83> then, you'll be just fine
• 337[02:08:36] <ILikeUnity7> What about Support?
• 338[02:08:51] <ILikeUnity7> Any "AskDebian"?
• 339[02:08:55] <SuperTramp83> there is IRC and the forums
• 340[02:09:09] <ILikeUnity7> Ok... I hope they can help me.
• 341[02:09:11] <SuperTramp83> unofficial forums, but still good to ask
• 342[02:09:15] <ILikeUnity7> ok
• 343[02:09:41] <ILikeUnity7> I'm going to chat about Ubuntu now, bye!
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• 348[02:14:09] <Aristar> FWIW if anyone was following my inquiry about new initramfs packages causing local-block hooks to repeat 10x before booting I think I found the solution: noresume=y in cmdline
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• 350[02:15:11] <Aristar> pretty sure it was hanging on attempting to find a resume
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• 356[02:17:22] <ryouma> i tried to look up noresume and got nothing but "no resume" hiring practices
• 357[02:17:31] <ryouma> is this a kernel command line?
• 358[02:17:37] <ryouma> as in you edit grub?
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• 360[02:18:09] <Aristar> grep -r resume /usr/share/initramfs-tools/
• 361[02:18:11] <Aristar> :)
• 362[02:18:23] <Aristar> and yeah grub cmdline parameter
• 363[02:18:36] <Aristar> but that command is how i found it
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• 367[02:19:06] <Aristar> and actually there's a function referencing "/scripts/local-block" hmm
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• 369[02:20:50] <Aristar> hmm "we also need to keep invoking the local-block scripts in case there are devices stacked on top of those." so that's why it repeats attempts
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• 372[02:23:37] <Aristar> not entirely sure how local-block is generated but it's not in /usr/share/initramfs-tools nor /etc/initramfs-tools but /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local references it
• 373[02:24:24] <Aristar> maybe generated from a sourced functions file
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• 379[02:26:10] <Aristar> ah probably from /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions
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• 388[02:31:51] <ILikeUnity7> hi
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• 390[02:31:58] <bazhang> hi
• 391[02:32:06] <ILikeUnity7> So, I have a question.
• 392[02:32:15] <bazhang> go ahead
• 393[02:32:27] <ILikeUnity7> Is the order (in stability) of Debians?: Stable, Testing, Unstable
• 394[02:32:44] <ILikeUnity7> With Stable as the most stable
• 395[02:33:02] <ILikeUnity7> I just want to confirm.
• 396[02:33:06] <petemc> yes
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• 398[02:33:16] <ILikeUnity7> Thanks! I have to leave, bye
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• 403[02:35:20] <ILikeUnity7> Hi! How easily can problems be fixed on Debian? I'm planning on using Testing.
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• 405[02:35:48] <bazhang> ILikeUnity7, did you read the topic here
• 406[02:35:58] <ILikeUnity7> ?
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• 408[02:36:12] <bazhang> did you read the topic on this channel
• 409[02:36:17] <ILikeUnity7> What is it/
• 410[02:36:20] <ILikeUnity7> *?
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• 413[02:36:49] <whiterabbit1060> hello
• 414[02:36:55] <bazhang> testing discussion is on another network
• 415[02:36:56] <ILikeUnity7> I've read them now and hi whiterabbit1060
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• 417[02:38:29] <whiterabbit1060> how is everyone today?
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• 420[02:41:07] <whiterabbit1060> hey
• 421[02:41:13] <Aristar> hmm, it seems initramfs hook-functions are missing a case for "zfs_member" being returned by $(blkid -o value -s TYPE "${dev_node}") (which is called if [ "${FSTYPE}" = "unknown" ] )
• 422[02:41:24] <Aristar> since it doesn't return FSTYPE=
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• 424[02:42:04] <Aristar> it expects something like FSTYPE=ext4
• 425[02:43:17] <Aristar> well i can fix this function but not sure if it should be overridden in another zfs-specific file belonging to zfs packages
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• 428[02:45:11] <Aristar> but whats odd is this install i'm booted on has no zfs mounts but theres pools on other disks in the machine, maybe related to local-block script causing odd looping behavior
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• 436[02:49:14] <Aristar> actually nevermind, if this function fails it would spit out an error on update-initramfs, must be somewhere else. i'll stop spamming until i find the real cause and report it through the proper channels
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• 495[03:36:31] <hanasaki> l (192.168.1.3) 3101.093 ms !H 3100.918 ms !H 3100.845 ms !H <= what are the H's?
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• 505[03:42:09] <Contoso> howdy, I'm a bit of a debian (linux in general) noob and I'm trying to install iperf3 on a device I don't have root on. I downloaded the iperf3.deb package, extracted it with dpkg-deb and am looking in that directory and I see a file there called iperf3 and I don't really know what to do with it.
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• 527[03:59:14] <Papillon> odd question, but why isn't this package available for kfreebsd. The ones on stretch and jessie aren't available, but most architectures aren't available either, but sid seems to have all architectures but kfreebsd, and I was wondering why replaced-url
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• 533[04:03:55] <themill> Papillon: kfreebsd-* isn't in an arch in jessie or stretch
• 534[04:04:17] <Papillon> jessie only has a handful of architectures
• 535[04:04:32] <Papillon> like amd64 and amd64 and amd64, but that's not the question
• 536[04:04:43] <themill> if by handful you mean 10?
• 537[04:05:18] <themill> (which is all the release architectures)
• 538[04:05:21] <Papillon> 3 of them arm, two mips, two ppc
• 539[04:05:27] <Papillon> two x86
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• 541[04:06:04] <Papillon> so ~5 architectures, x86, arm, ppc, s390x, and mips
• 542[04:06:08] <Papillon> but that's not the question
• 543[04:06:18] <themill> so 10.
• 544[04:06:31] <Papillon> what are the 5 others?
• 545[04:06:32] <themill> You're using a different definition of architecture to the rest of Debian.
• 546[04:06:47] <Papillon> amd64 is an extension of x86
• 547[04:06:51] <Papillon> but that's not the question
• 548[04:06:57] <themill> It's a different architecture.
• 549[04:07:10] <Papillon> sid has packages for most of the architectures but not kfreebsd and I was wondering why
• 550[04:07:15] <Papillon> it's an x86 extension
• 551[04:07:18] <themill> It's a different architecture.
• 552[04:07:21] <themill> You're using a different definition of architecture to the rest of Debian.
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• 554[04:07:43] <themill> gdm3 seems to not be available on any non-linux arch
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• 556[04:08:47] <Papillon> so not hurd either
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• 558[04:09:22] <Papillon> I was wondering why
• 559[04:09:37] <themill> Architecture: linux-any
• 560[04:10:02] <bazhang> HURD?
• 561[04:10:08] <themill> It probably uses an interface that hasn't been implemented on non-linux (quite possibly cgroups so that the session can be killed cleanly)
• 562[04:10:15] <bazhang> as in debian/URD?
• 563[04:10:18] <bazhang> H
• 564[04:10:23] <Papillon> gnuhurd?
• 565[04:10:49] <bazhang> debian has one, as well as kfreebsd iirc
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• 567[04:11:15] <Papillon> replaced-url
• 568[04:11:25] <themill> bazhang: not helping
• 569[04:11:26] <bazhang> I bet its supported not on this server
• 570[04:11:27] <Papillon> wouldn't that cover every program?
• 571[04:11:38] <Papillon> or every daemon/service
• 572[04:12:00] <bazhang> themill, an honest error, he mentioned HURD
• 573[04:12:15] <bazhang> my apologies themill
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• 575[04:13:20] <dax> from gdm3's changelog, in 2014: "Remove kfreebsd-any from Architecture. (Closes: #602724, #601106, #612157, #733546)"
• 576[04:13:28] <dax> have not looked at those bugs, but probably a good place to start
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• 578[04:13:39] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 581[04:16:18] <nezZario> Hey guys
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• 590[04:18:46] <nezZario> Is using a bridge the easiest way to share my connection to a VoIP phone (polycom vvx 400)? I'm connecting to the public internet over WiFi... so it's AP <--> wlan0 <--> (me) <--> eth0 <--cat5--> polycom
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• 593[04:19:59] <nezZario> I used to use my linux PC as a wireless repeater and I just don't remember all this bridging stuff
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• 615[04:31:22] <UltimateTrolling> while dax and other fed agents try to cover up the truth, as ordered by Trump, they cannot succeed.
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• 618[04:32:27] <UltimateTrolling> The United Klans of America has donated two new servers to freenode this week, and the CIA has discovered they are loaded with malware which allows the Klan to k-line jews
• 619[04:32:46] <UltimateTrolling> Trump has ordered this information destroyed, and dax and mst are fed agents here to destroy it
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• 622[04:33:04] <s0lar1s> ^lol
• 623[04:33:24] <mst> replaced-url
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• 649[05:06:08] <theyankees707> Does anyone know of a very user friendly software for displaying websites.Yeah, I will be traveling without connection
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• 652[05:07:13] <bazhang> theyankees707, such as an internet browser?
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• 661[05:11:00] <theyankees707> bazhang:no i cant use a browser I wont have a internet connection.I will be traveling on the road.Again i wont have a connection
• 662[05:11:44] <ddiso> Will firefox-esr (version 52) make it to stretch before release? Asking because the current 47 doesn't support the netflix drm but 52 would.
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• 664[05:12:32] <bazhang> theyankees707, so save the page, view offline
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• 673[05:22:18] <theyankees707> bazhang:my chrome browser does not have a save and view offline option or I cant find it.
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• 696[05:42:41] <VentGrey> Hello, does anyone know if Debian has packaged already the MATE 1.18 desktop? or they are waiting for stretch to be released?
• 697[05:43:44] <dvs> ,v mate
• 698[05:43:45] <judd> No package named 'mate' was found in amd64.
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• 700[05:45:31] <blacksyke> ,v mate-desktop
• 701[05:45:32] <judd> Package: mate-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-3+deb8u1; stretch: 1.16.1-1; sid: 1.16.1-1
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• 703[05:45:48] <VentGrey> I found the same in the tracker
• 704[05:46:08] <blacksyke> the answer is that version 1.18 is not yet packaged, sid has 1.16
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• 711[05:49:11] <VentGrey> well, time to download sources, debianize & package them XD
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• 713[05:49:45] <VentGrey> Another theory I have is that someone already packaged them but hasn't uploaded
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• 735[06:20:26] <plasmoduck> how do I check what graphics driver I am using>
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• 739[06:27:39] <alekz> plasmoduck: you can find it in lspci -v output
• 740[06:28:49] <awal1> lspci | grep VGA
• 741[06:29:02] <awal1> much more precise
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• 744[06:29:56] <alekz> yeah that's easier
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• 761[06:39:49] <plasmoduck> shows my card, not the driver
• 762[06:39:52] <zykotick9> awal1: but, the "lspci | grep VGA" doesn't actually show the "Kernel drive in use" line...
• 763[06:40:10] <plasmoduck> I just wanna make sure im using proprietry nvidia driver, not noveau
• 764[06:40:12] <zykotick9> plasmoduck: just use "lspci -v" and find it.
• 765[06:40:52] <plasmoduck> lspci is to display hardware, not drivers.
• 766[06:41:15] <awal1> zykotick9, hmmm, I may have missed "using" vs have(ing) :P
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• 768[06:41:30] <plasmoduck> Kernel driver in use: nvidia
• 769[06:41:31] <awal1> well, lspci + lsmod ...
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• 775[06:51:47] <Aristar> can apt install be told to install one of the alternate dependencies (ones separated with a pipe) somehow? I'd rather not specify both packages so the dependency chain can remain intact
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• 777[06:53:36] <themill> Just tell it to install the alternative you want
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• 782[06:55:35] <Aristar> won't that mark it as manually installed?
• 783[06:56:07] <Aristar> or is apt smart enough to link the satisfied dependency if calling it to install both?
• 784[06:56:30] <Aristar> (when there's multiple packages that can satisfy a dependency)
• 785[06:56:48] <dax> it will mark it manually installed. i usually do that and then apt-mark it back to automatic
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• 787[06:57:01] <dax> wouldn't surprise me if there's a simpler way, but I don't know it
• 788[06:57:12] <themill> Aristar: aptitude can do it in one step
• 789[06:57:28] <Aristar> hmmmm
• 790[06:57:47] <Aristar> right i forgot about aptitude's dependency resolver, hopefully it links them properly
• 791[06:57:53] <themill> aptitude install foo 'foo2&M'
• 792[06:58:04] <themill> !aptitude ops
• 793[06:58:04] <dpkg> Aptitude can perform different operations from the one command line: "aptitude install foo bar_" purges bar and installs foo. This is handy for dealing with broken packages. Other postfix operators include: + install, - remove, _ purge, = hold, : temp hold, &M markauto, &m unmarkauto, +M install and markauto. man aptitude for more details. These can also be used as a prefix operator at the [Y/n/q/?] resolver prompt.
• 794[06:58:06] <Aristar> oh, interesting
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• 796[06:58:31] <themill> actually +M not &M
• 797[06:58:38] <Aristar> i thought aptitude was being phased out or somehing but it's useful for tracking dependency chains
• 798[06:58:47] <Aristar> nice i'll try that
• 799[06:58:58] <Aristar> thanks
• 800[06:59:03] <themill> it has fewer people working on it and apt is learning some of aptitude's tricks with time
• 801[06:59:24] <themill> it's still very much alive though as having alternate resolvers to help you get out of trouble is quite handy
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• 803[07:01:03] <Aristar> yeah and i just saw one of the recommends "debtags" i never knew existed. i always wondered if there was a way to view packages by category (tags, in debian terms). i've been grepping apt-cache dumpavail for tags
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• 805[07:01:39] <Aristar> suggests* rather
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• 1060[10:26:31] <pingfloyd> !moo
• 1061[10:26:31] <dpkg> mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav
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• 1071[10:34:39] <Jopair> "/msg dpkg guidelines"
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• 1075[10:37:17] <Jopair> anyone know of a good assembler channel?
• 1076[10:37:21] <vutral> hm
• 1077[10:37:23] <vutral> problems
• 1078[10:38:21] <vutral> i added the following to /etc/fstab /home/usr /usr none bind 0 0 i get error /root/usr not found at boot
• 1079[10:38:30] <vutral> it works in the running system
• 1080[10:38:33] <vutral> but not during boot
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• 1082[10:39:13] <Jopair> vutral what are you trying to do?
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• 1085[10:41:41] <vutral> Jopair: i moved /usr to another partition
• 1086[10:41:53] <vutral> i try to mount it to /usr
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• 1090[10:43:30] <nicezfs> Jopair: Tried #asm .. ? :d
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• 1092[10:44:22] <Jopair> #vutral So it is not showing up and you want it to?
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• 1094[10:45:20] <vutral> well i can mount /usr manually in the recovery system
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• 1096[10:45:31] <vutral> but it doesnt like to boot normally
• 1097[10:45:59] <vutral> apparently because the ramdisk does not contain /usr
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• 1099[10:47:58] <Jopair> vutral: I'm not following what it is you are trying to do, or what the problem is. Are you saying that /usr is on another partition and you want it not to be anymore?
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• 1166[11:45:33] <plasmoduck> !nvidia
• 1167[11:45:34] <dpkg> Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see replaced-url
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• 1185[12:07:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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• 1306[13:20:28] <fredl> Grr, hate having to ghost this guy who keeps taking my nickname all the time
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• 1311[13:22:10] <fredl> hey folks, I'm trying to install powerdns-backend-mysql from backports
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• 1313[13:22:37] <fredl> but it comes with message:
• 1314[13:22:40] <fredl> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
• 1315[13:22:40] <fredl> pdns-backend-mysql : Depends: mysql-client
• 1316[13:23:02] <fredl> I have mariadb installed
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• 1318[13:23:41] <fredl> I guess, but not certain how to check, that mariadb provides mysql-client
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• 1321[13:24:07] <fredl> anybody know how I can check what exactly is going on here?
• 1322[13:24:09] <nkuttler> fredl: ask in #freenode how to protect your nick
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• 1324[13:24:40] <nkuttler> fredl: please pastebin apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy pdns-backend-mysql
• 1325[13:24:41] <fredl> nkuttler - oh you mean as in permanently protecting it? I already have a password and know how to ghost someone using it, it's just a pain.
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• 1329[13:26:21] <fredl> replaced-url
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• 1332[13:27:55] <fredl> So I'm trying apt-get -t jessie-backports install pdns-backend-mysql
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• 1335[13:28:58] <fredl> and this is output replaced-url
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• 1337[13:29:50] <nkuttler> fredl: i'm not sure what that package does, but if mariadb is compatible you can use equivs
• 1338[13:29:53] <nkuttler> !equivs
• 1339[13:29:53] <dpkg> equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. aptitude install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>.
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• 1342[13:30:46] <fredl> hmm, gotcha. But shouldn't that really be provided in the package itself, in other words should I file a bug for this you think?
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• 1344[13:31:31] <nkuttler> fredl: doesn't hurt to check the bts for existing bugs, or creating one that will be wontfix
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• 1347[13:32:58] <fredl> hmm, just thinking... this is on a new server, I think I already have an existing server with mariadb / powerdns
• 1348[13:33:03] <fredl> I'll check
• 1349[13:33:47] <fredl> aha on older server mariadb is not from backports
• 1350[13:34:24] <fredl> so that could mean something in the backports deb changed that broke this
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• 1352[13:34:35] <fredl> I'll check the bts
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• 1354[13:35:13] <fredl> heh replaced-url
• 1355[13:35:14] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1357[13:36:12] <fredl> open since June 2016 :(
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• 1363[13:39:32] <fredl> hmm shouldnt it be possible to undo a backports install like 'apt-get install mariadb-server/jessie' ?
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• 1413[14:03:32] <mcint> 8.7/jessie, I can't figure out why `column` is seg faulting. Similar tools [colrm, cut] don't, valgrind has some info (useful in the right hands), but I want to do what I can before talking to maintainers
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• 1417[14:05:17] <mcint> I probably can't purge/reinstall util-linux
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• 1430[14:12:20] <mcint> only 1 host of many running jessie is affected
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• 1448[14:27:03] <elwisp> looking for an equalizer or something for turning down the bass systemwide, tried the alsaequal but it does nothing
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• 1450[14:27:16] <elwisp> Google has failed me
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• 1453[14:28:31] <nkuttler> elwisp: don't you use pulse?
• 1454[14:28:55] <elwisp> nkuttler: that would explain alsaequal not working tho
• 1455[14:28:57] <elwisp> but i have no idea
• 1456[14:29:17] <elwisp> seems like pulse is default so im probably on pulse then
• 1457[14:29:18] <nkuttler> elwisp: ps auxw | grep pulse
• 1458[14:29:23] <nkuttler> yeah
• 1459[14:29:34] <elwisp> looks like pulse is running yeah
• 1460[14:29:36] <mcint> pulseaudio-equalizer
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• 1464[14:30:47] <elwisp> mcint: hmm installed it, but what is it called?
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• 1469[14:31:45] <nkuttler> elwisp: /usr/share/doc/package, apt-cache show package, dpkg -L package | grep bin, etc
• 1470[14:33:50] <elwisp> using i3wm
• 1471[14:34:01] <elwisp> so i dunno what the binary is named heh
• 1472[14:34:23] <mcint> nkuttler: I've been wondering how to do that for years. guess I need to rtfm(s)
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• 1477[14:37:50] <elwisp> There was an error connecting to pulseaudio, please make sure you have the pulseaudio dbus module loaded, exiting...
• 1478[14:37:55] <elwisp> that was unexpected
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• 1481[14:40:56] <mcint> elwisp: replaced-url
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• 1484[14:42:33] <elwisp> yeah, dosent seem to work
• 1485[14:42:38] <elwisp> perhaps need to reboot
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• 1488[14:43:14] <elwisp> aah works now
• 1489[14:43:19] <elwisp> because i was trying as root :)
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• 1491[14:45:35] <elwisp> dosent do anything unfortunately :(
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• 1497[14:53:13] <mcint> pacmd is informative, >>> dump
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• 1502[14:56:30] <elwisp> replaced-url
• 1503[14:56:57] <elwisp> that would suggest im using alsa?
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• 1507[15:00:51] <|ntegra|> heya
• 1508[15:01:03] <|ntegra|> how do I add this:: replaced-url
• 1509[15:01:22] <|ntegra|> to my /etc/hosts file exactly?
• 1510[15:01:52] <twostone> Again, what would you like to achieve, and why?
• 1511[15:02:14] <elwisp> |ntegra|: just redirect the output to it with append
• 1512[15:02:34] <elwisp> twostone: are you asking me?
• 1513[15:02:38] <twostone> yes.
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• 1515[15:02:44] <twostone> no.
• 1516[15:02:48] <|ntegra|> that simple? it looks like I could > send it to hosts.deny
• 1517[15:02:53] <twostone> sorry, misread.
• 1518[15:03:01] <|ntegra|> hoping that it works a treat ofc
• 1519[15:03:02] <elwisp> :)
• 1520[15:03:24] <twostone> Integra: What would you like to achieve with that?
• 1521[15:03:43] <|ntegra|> "bugger off lawziez?"
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• 1523[15:03:59] <|ntegra|> "bugger off spyziez?"
• 1524[15:04:20] <elwisp> looks like a good ol shitlist
• 1525[15:04:23] <twostone> Wouldn't dpi be better in such cases?
• 1526[15:04:44] <|ntegra|> dots per interchurr?
• 1527[15:04:53] <twostone> deep packet inspection.
• 1528[15:05:15] <plasmoduck> how can I set different wallpapers on my 3 monitors?
• 1529[15:05:29] <elwisp> twostone: i would guess its just to deny incoming traffic from shady ips
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• 1531[15:05:29] <plasmoduck> using mate de
• 1532[15:05:38] <|ntegra|> you can check my back pocket, but I've already raided your sides and front pocket
• 1533[15:06:07] <|ntegra|> thnx 4 the tip
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• 1537[15:07:18] <twostone> If you're that paranoid, use a properly configured iptables with squid, unbound and suricata.
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• 1570[15:27:48] <xthree> How do you assign a ip address to an interface that's not listed?
• 1571[15:29:29] <twostone> via DHCP would be easiest. Just bring up the interface.
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• 1657[16:34:47] <mender27> Hello everyone! :)
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• 1889[19:05:20] <AtheroS__> hello, i get /lib/x86_64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found, when i try to run a game on debian jessie, use nvidia driver from jessie-backports
• 1890[19:05:34] <AtheroS__> thanks for any help
• 1891[19:06:27] <AtheroS__> it opens a steam window with error code 1
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• 1894[19:13:52] <alekz> AtheroS__: that doesn't look like a problem with the nvidia driver
• 1895[19:14:02] <twostone> It probably still refers to 32bit libs, done that in the past.
• 1896[19:14:25] <alekz> yeap
• 1897[19:14:32] <alekz> that's my bet as well
• 1898[19:14:53] <alekz> try with ia32 and lib32 AtheroS__
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• 1900[19:17:05] <AtheroS__> i found the solution, i needed a newer version of libstdc++6, the libstdc++.so.6.0.22
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• 1902[19:18:41] <twostone> good luck.
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• 1930[19:50:00] <hid3> Greetings everyone. I am running Debian (9.0, the testing). I run a Windows machine on the same box. What solutions would you offer? The primary resource focus would be of course for Debian box, for the Windows machine I will need some CPU power (very little actually), USB port passed, 1 Gigabyte of memory and around 15 gigabytes of disk space.
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• 1938[19:54:24] <alekz> hid3: I'd virtualize windows
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• 1942[19:55:24] <twostone> what do you want to do with your box?
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• 1946[19:57:15] <dirac1> Hi Guys, i'm new to debian and i want to know if i can install a grsec Kernel before my Debian installatio and how to do it?
• 1947[19:58:48] <alekz> hi dirac1
• 1948[19:58:51] <hid3> alekz: yeah, I know I need to virtualize it. But what software should I use for that? I've never used any virtualization before/ever
• 1949[19:58:55] <alekz> take a look over here replaced-url
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• 1951[19:59:03] <alekz> oh hid3
• 1952[19:59:06] <alekz> I use virtualbox
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• 1954[19:59:43] <dirac1> and.. debian 8 has systemd right?
• 1955[19:59:50] <missmbob> hid3: definitely virtualbox
• 1956[19:59:57] <missmbob> dirac1: yes
• 1957[20:00:01] <alekz> yes dirac1
• 1958[20:00:38] <alekz> dirac1: if you don't like systemd, you can google for Devuan
• 1959[20:00:54] <hid3> is that virtualbox a plug-and-play solution (I mean, in official apt repositories)?
• 1960[20:00:58] <dirac1> I'm ok with systemd ( "ok" ).
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• 1964[20:01:18] <alekz> hid3: apt-get install virtualbox
• 1965[20:01:22] <alekz> that's all you need
• 1966[20:01:23] <hid3> that's great
• 1967[20:01:45] <missmbob> hid3: in testing you need to add another source. read this replaced-url
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• 1969[20:01:59] <hid3> Will it be possibe to passthrough a USB device/port for it? The software I need to run has got a hardware USB key...
• 1970[20:02:05] <alekz> didn't know for testing
• 1971[20:02:17] <missmbob> hid3: yes
• 1972[20:02:21] <alekz> it is possible
• 1973[20:02:29] <hid3> will add, not a problem! I just don't want to compile, etc...
• 1974[20:02:35] <hid3> another apt source is not a big deal
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• 2006[20:22:40] <thiras> is testing branch rolling release?
• 2007[20:23:18] <missmbob> no
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• 2009[20:24:39] <hid3> What do I need to make USB3 ports work with Debian?
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• 2011[20:25:19] <missmbob> nothing
• 2012[20:25:21] <jelly> hid3, they're supposed to work.
• 2013[20:25:24] <jelly> !ask
• 2014[20:25:24] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 2016[20:26:05] <hid3> That's strange. Since my system has got 2x USB3 ports. When I plug in there a device, nothing happens. If I plug it into USB2 port, it is being detected
• 2017[20:26:07] <jhutchins> thiras: No, there is no rolling relese of Debian.
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• 2019[20:27:39] <jelly> hid3, which hardware platform? Perhaps it's too new and requires newer drivers (a newer kernel than the default one)
• 2020[20:28:06] <hid3> jelly, it's a HP Microserver Gen8. Running Debian 9.0
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• 2024[20:29:43] <jelly> hid3, which specific model? Check if the vendor has firmware updates. Check if something usb related is disabled in bios.
• 2025[20:30:14] <jelly> debian 9.0 is not out yet, you're on stretch, but that also means you have a relatively recent kernel.
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• 2028[20:32:33] <hid3> well, as far as I have checked, everything was up to date and enabled. Not much that I need USB3, just setting up a new system and was wondering..
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• 2034[20:34:08] <jelly> new hardware often has subtle differences from standards and needs hardcoded quirks in respective drivers.
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• 2038[20:35:18] <jelly> hid3, best file a bug report for linux the kernel package, missing hw support
• 2039[20:35:28] <jelly> the* linux* kernel package
• 2040[20:35:46] <dirac1> Hello guys i want to install debian on my computer, but i already have a home folder with other user and i want to maintain this user
• 2041[20:35:51] <hid3> well, I'm not so sure it's "missing hw support". Maybe I'm just too lame to use it
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• 2044[20:36:08] <dirac1> How do i define this user in my new debian installation?.
• 2045[20:36:33] <jelly> hid3, maybe. Does anything happen in "dmesg" output when plugging, and when unplugging, a device in a usb3 port?
• 2046[20:36:48] <vutral> dirac1: useradd easiest
• 2047[20:36:48] <hid3> nope, absolutely nothing!
• 2048[20:36:57] <hid3> I was watching /var/log/messages
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• 2050[20:37:13] <hid3> and if I plug/unplug the same device to USB2.0 port, messages appear
• 2051[20:37:19] <jelly> /var/log/kern.log has less cruft
• 2052[20:37:20] <dirac1> vutral, just.. adding my username? ex: "useradd Nick"
• 2053[20:37:27] <dirac1> But.. what about my homefolder?
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• 2055[20:37:35] <dirac1> I don't have to modify the fstab?
• 2056[20:37:49] <vutral> dirac1: you can just specify the home directory instead of making a new
• 2057[20:37:58] <jelly> dirac1, are you adding a new filesystem?
• 2058[20:38:07] <vutral> dirac1: theres an option to useradd
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• 2061[20:39:11] <dirac1> I have Arch on the system with an /home/nick in a separated partition now i want a new partition with debian's "/"/
• 2062[20:39:13] <jelly> hid3, then it's pretty clear either the kernel does not support the hw, or it doesn't support it automatically as it ought to.
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• 2065[20:40:16] <hid3> alright, will try to get my hands on that USB3 a bit later...
• 2066[20:40:56] <hid3> Now back to the original case - once I've set up virtualbox-5.1, how do I access it? I mean, how do I create a VM, install it? I suppose I need some client software but I can't find it anywhere...
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• 2069[20:41:38] <thiras> thanks jhutchins
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• 2082[20:46:12] <mtn> hid3: vbox has a great manual on their website.
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• 2084[20:46:58] <missmbob> hid3: just launch virtualbox from the application menu. it's a pretty self explanatory gui
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• 2086[20:47:31] <hid3> well, I don't have GUI on the server :)
• 2087[20:47:46] <hid3> I hope it's possible to manage it from remote machine
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• 2089[20:49:17] <twostone> you can manage it via shell as well, no GUI needed.
• 2090[20:49:54] <hid3> yeah, examining the VBoxManage command. However, this seems to be not so straight-forward
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• 2094[20:51:41] <twostone> what is. But hey, it's got a flashy manual...
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• 2097[20:52:31] <hid3> I'm reading it now...
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• 2099[20:54:43] <acresearch> hello people, what is the shortcut to move a file to trash?
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• 2101[20:55:03] <nkuttler> acresearch: the delete key?
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• 2103[20:55:15] <acresearch> nkuttler: no delte key in macbookpro laptops
• 2104[20:55:40] <nkuttler> so get a real keyboard
• 2105[20:55:46] <acresearch> nkuttler: it is usually crtl+backspace (mac and ubuntu), not the case in gnome
• 2106[20:55:58] <acresearch> nkuttler: i would if i was rich
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• 2111[21:03:31] <quetu> acresearch, press FN + Del
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• 2113[21:03:51] <quetu> the same to scrolls with FN + Arrowkeys
• 2114[21:04:43] <quetu> not scroll sorry, i meant Home End AvPag RePag
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• 2116[21:05:08] <acresearch> quetu: i have a laptop ()no del home pgup keys
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• 2118[21:05:33] <acresearch> quetu: macbookpro laptop
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• 2121[21:06:02] <quetu> acresearch, i know, if you want to press Home (FN + Down Arrow), End (FN + UP Arrow), etc...
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• 2124[21:06:21] <quetu> Delete Key, FN + Backspace
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• 2127[21:06:44] <acresearch> quetu: doesn't work
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• 2129[21:06:49] <quetu> hmm
• 2130[21:06:54] <quetu> i have one too
• 2131[21:06:58] <acresearch> fn up arrow and fn downarrow work
• 2132[21:07:05] <acresearch> but not fn backspace
• 2133[21:07:09] <quetu> let me see
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• 2135[21:07:37] <quetu> it works on my Retina mid2012
• 2136[21:07:54] <acresearch> hmmm
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• 2139[21:08:11] <acresearch> well fn backspace worked in ubuntu unity,,, but not debian gnome 3
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• 2141[21:08:32] <acresearch> quetu: do i have to turn on the function somewhere?
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• 2143[21:08:53] <quetu> no, i think is a keyboard layout configuration thing... dunno
• 2144[21:08:59] <acresearch> hmmm
• 2145[21:08:59] <jasonwc> I'm trying to automate my Debian backup server to run a backup script, sleep, and then wakeup at a specified time. I added a line in /etc/crontab,
• 2146[21:08:59] <jasonwc> 30 0 * * * root /usr/sbin/rtcwake -m mem -l -t $(date +%s -d "tomorrow 03:52")
• 2147[21:09:21] <acresearch> quetu: i tried also to add a shortcut, but that did not work either
• 2148[21:09:26] <jasonwc> However, it is only parsed as " (root) CMD ("/usr/sbin/rtcwake -m mem -l -t $(date +)". The same command works fine when used in a terminal.
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• 2150[21:10:03] <quetu> you can edit keybindings
• 2151[21:10:16] <acresearch> quetu: where?
• 2152[21:10:19] <quetu> ~/.inputrc
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• 2158[21:11:47] <acresearch> quetu: ok
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• 2345[23:00:59] <Guest66144> What's the quickest way to run a bin server as a service in debian/ubuntu?
• 2346[23:01:16] <Guest66144> server binary*
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• 2383[23:17:16] <nkuttler> Guest66144: um, what?
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• 2385[23:18:43] <Guest66144> nkuttler : All I'm asking is how to run execute a binary as a service
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• 2387[23:19:05] <Guest66144> run a binary*
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• 2389[23:19:27] <Guest66144> A bin file
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• 2394[23:20:58] <coke> man hobup
• 2395[23:21:03] <coke> man hohup
• 2396[23:21:26] <nkuttler> Guest66144: which bin file? read the docs it came with?
• 2397[23:21:29] <coke> and then go read a book about systemd :p
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• 2399[23:21:42] <nkuttler> coke: did you mean nohup?
• 2400[23:21:50] <Guest66144> Well I wrote the bin so there isn't really any docs
• 2401[23:21:59] <nkuttler> .oO
• 2402[23:21:59] <coke> yea
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• 2404[23:22:34] <Guest66144> And won't nohup not start the application upon restarting debian?
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• 2408[23:23:08] <coke> yes
• 2409[23:23:13] <nkuttler> Guest66144: i'd go with supervisord
• 2410[23:23:44] <coke> runit supervisord there is a ton of 'keep a thing running' deamons
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• 2414[23:24:23] <coke> but he asked for a quick and easy one
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• 2416[23:25:01] <coke> and you might as well do systemd if you want to do it right
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• 2419[23:25:29] <nkuttler> if all you're ever going to use is linux, sure
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• 2421[23:26:14] <missmbob> write a systemd unit file. replaced-url
• 2422[23:27:11] <blackflow> nkuttler: supervisord works on windows?
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• 2425[23:27:35] <nkuttler> blackflow: does google work on your computer?
• 2426[23:27:54] <blackflow> nkuttler: nope.
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• 2454[23:43:02] <x86_register> Hello, I am currently trying to repair my Debian installation. Before I go about doing this, I need to back up all of the important files in both my home and root directory. I currently have my debian machine booted into a live session of ubuntu, and copying my files.
• 2455[23:43:12] <x86_register> How can I copy files that I "dont have permission to read"
• 2456[23:43:25] <x86_register> I know the password, but I am not being prompted for it when trying to access these directories
• 2457[23:43:37] <x86_register> I have already de-crypted my encrypted partition, and have some access
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