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0 [00:00:09] <SerajewelKS> Skaag: so the extended partition must necessarily overlap every logical partition
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2 [00:00:44] <Skaag> right I guess I meant that seeing as 5 is the only one within 2, and seems to take up the entire space allowed within 2, they are basically the same block of data
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4 [00:00:55] <SerajewelKS> Skaag: if you want to extend partition 1 then you must move partition 2/5 somewhere else, because they immediately follow it. | partition 1 | partition 5 | free space |
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6 [00:01:24] <SerajewelKS> Skaag: the easiest solution is disable swap (swapoff -a), delete partitions 5 and 2, recreate them at the end of the disk, then extend partition 1.
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9 [00:01:37] <Skaag> that's what I did
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12 [00:02:03] <Skaag> now I need to figure out the new UUID to replace the old one in /etc/fstab of the new drive
13 [00:02:18] <SerajewelKS> Skaag: if you dd'd the partition, i don't think the UUID changed
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16 [00:02:46] <Skaag> I erased 2 and 5 and created a new type 82 (linux swap) partition to replace the old (and too small) swap partition
17 [00:02:49] <tw> the swap partition uuid has changed for sure.
18 [00:02:54] <Skaag> yah, I'm sure it has
19 [00:02:57] <SerajewelKS> Skaag: oh, the swap's UUID. yes.
20 [00:03:02] <tw> it doesn't have a puid.
21 [00:03:28] <tw> (because it isn't gpt)
22 [00:03:35] <Skaag> ah
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24 [00:04:20] <tw> lsblk will give you the UUID after you mkswap /dev/something5
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26 [00:04:47] <Skaag> yah, mkswap actually printed out the new uuid
27 [00:04:50] <SerajewelKS> parted probably already did mkswap for you
28 [00:04:54] <tw> Convenient.
29 [00:04:58] <SerajewelKS> but yeah, doesn't hurt to just do it again
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31 [00:05:45] <Skaag> replaced-url
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33 [00:06:22] <Skaag> that last line is weird, I mean I'm looking at the original drive, and the / fs is on /dev/sda1 and yet that last line in fstab shows some usb0 media device
34 [00:06:27] <Skaag> I think I can safely remove that line
35 [00:06:37] <tw> I'd comment it out.
36 [00:06:53] <Skaag> I only need the two lines beginning with UUID, right?
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38 [00:07:45] <SerajewelKS> yeah
39 [00:07:52] <SerajewelKS> assuming the UUIDs are correct
40 [00:08:15] <Skaag> I know for sure the swap uuid is correct (the new one)
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47 [00:10:30] <tw> because of the way you did it, I doubt the bootloader needs to be updated, but it's another thing you need to be mindful of in this kind of change.
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79 [00:23:37] <Skaag> I'll verify this to be certain - how do I find the uuid of the existing root partition?
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81 [00:26:12] <hicks_> if you know which device the root partition is on, /dev/disk/by-uuid/ has uuid to devices
82 [00:26:45] <hicks_> also blkid
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89 [00:33:20] <Kobaz> apt-file ceph-deploy
90 [00:33:38] <Kobaz> apt ceph-deploy
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92 [00:33:49] * Kobaz pokes apt
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99 [00:42:18] <Kobaz> dpkg: file search
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102 [00:43:40] <Kobaz> izza not working
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112 [00:46:55] <buu> is there some way from debian to ask which disks are connected to which hba?
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115 [00:48:12] <Kobaz> probably something in /proc or /sys
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118 [00:48:52] <Kobaz> your dmesg should have some info as well
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122 [00:50:12] <buu> that's a tad vague
123 [00:50:28] <Kobaz> it depends on your driver, really
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125 [00:51:03] <buu> they're lsi sas2008 type cards
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127 [00:52:05] <Kobaz> hwinfo may give you a clue
128 [00:52:11] <Kobaz> hwinfo --disk
129 [00:52:15] <Kobaz> it does show attachments
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131 [00:52:50] <Kobaz> 26: IDE 400.0: 10600 Disk Serial ID: "S12RNEAD359797Y" Device File: /dev/sde Attached to: #16 (SATA controller)
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133 [00:53:52] <Kobaz> it doesn't seem to line up with the pci list though
134 [00:54:01] <Kobaz> my pci item 17 is my disk controller
135 [00:54:07] <Kobaz> and i don't have a 16
136 [00:54:09] <Kobaz> hwinfo --pci
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141 [00:54:28] <Kobaz> maybe it's an off-by-1 issue
142 [00:54:40] <Kobaz> buu: see if that works for you
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147 [00:56:34] <Kobaz> the numbers definitely don't match up, but if you have different cards you can tell by the name of the card
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149 [00:57:02] <Kobaz> i'm looking at my storage server that's got a few cards and it shows different attachments, and i can tell which one is which since i have three different model cards
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151 [00:57:16] <Kobaz> if you have the same model card you can probably call by irq, and then figure out which pci slot is taking which irq
152 [00:58:05] <Kobaz> bit of a shame that the attachment # has no bearing with respect to any other data that i see.... if you're feeling up to it you can submit a bug report to hwinfo
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157 [01:00:27] <Kobaz> you can probably also use the device link and bus id information
158 [01:00:52] <Kobaz> something like that /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.0/ata6/host5/target5:0:0/5:0:0:0
159 [01:01:03] <Kobaz> from thw hwinfo --disk info
160 [01:01:18] <Kobaz> ah yes
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162 [01:01:22] <Kobaz> 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
163 [01:01:27] <Kobaz> that matches lspci device ids
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192 [01:18:14] <psychoticwarrior> stool softeners really work
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195 [01:18:36] <Kobaz> they do
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197 [01:18:39] <Kobaz> so soft
198 [01:18:41] <Kobaz> so very soft
199 [01:18:45] <psychoticwarrior> yes for sure
200 [01:19:04] <buu> Kobaz: hwinfo work
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202 [01:19:06] <buu> worked*
203 [01:19:09] <Kobaz> nice
204 [01:19:17] <bazhang> psychoticwarrior, thats not even close to topical here
205 [01:19:20] <buu> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:03:00.0/host11/port-11
206 [01:19:38] <buu> And looking at lspci it tells me 00:02 is 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E7 v3/Xeon E5 v3/Core i7 PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
207 [01:19:41] <buu> er
208 [01:19:44] <buu> 02:00.0 Serial Attached SCSI controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS2308 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS-2 (rev 05)
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212 [01:20:37] <buu> Now if only I knew which card that was
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214 [01:21:13] <Kobaz> yeah, you'll need to look in your bios to see which pci slot is which irq
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216 [01:21:49] <Kobaz> but you're probably trying to do this without being there/rebooting
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218 [01:22:59] <Kobaz> maybe in the motherboard manual (low probability of finding something this specific) if you can determine the irq assignment order, you can determine the location from the top/bottom of the board
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220 [01:24:17] <buu> huh
221 [01:24:19] <buu> Interesting thought
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224 [01:24:43] <buu> It's not so much 'doing it remotely' as I just put it in a cabinet and it's a pain t get out =[
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226 [01:24:49] <Kobaz> ah
227 [01:24:53] <buu> God is punishing me for not buying rails =[
228 [01:24:59] <Kobaz> hah
229 [01:25:16] <buu> Although, to be fair, I did buy rails, they just didn't fit
230 [01:25:17] <Kobaz> i <3 supermicro servers come with rails
231 [01:25:23] <Kobaz> mm
232 [01:25:32] <buu> this one is super micro... but I ebay'd it
233 [01:25:59] <Kobaz> speaking of supermicro, i'm looking for a case that can take a mini atx, and is less than 16 inches in depth
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235 [01:26:06] <Kobaz> i found a 2u that meets that spec
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241 [01:29:47] <Kobaz> ugh
242 [01:29:48] <Kobaz> killin me
243 [01:29:58] <Kobaz> ceph-mon: created monfs at /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-kc02 for mon.kc02
244 [01:30:10] <Kobaz> /etc/init.d/ceph start mon.kc02 ...... /etc/init.d/ceph: mon.kc02 not found (/etc/ceph/ceph.conf defines , /var/lib/ceph defines )
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285 [01:51:56] <Kobaz> yay i fixed it
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290 [01:54:21] <dvs> !prize Kobaz
291 [01:54:21] * dpkg gives Kobaz a medal.
292 [01:54:38] <abrotman> !prise dvs
293 [01:54:38] * dpkg blows dvs apart with a lightly oiled explosive
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297 [01:56:39] <dvs> again?!? dang it!
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300 [01:59:40] <Kobaz> cluster 029c19e6-1050-47c8-990b-fb9e923d1062 health HEALTH_ERR
301 [01:59:52] <Kobaz> it's kind of working, almost
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303 [02:01:06] <Kobaz> oh i think that's good actually
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371 [02:46:47] <k000> how to change the keymap?
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374 [02:47:55] <missmbob> !keymap
375 [02:47:55] <dpkg> Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
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384 [02:51:36] <k000> !keymap
385 [02:51:36] <dpkg> Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
386 [02:51:53] <awal1> k000, as dpkg told you: "setxkbmap -layout yourlanguage" for X(org)
387 [02:52:18] <awal1> dpkg-reconfigure .... for X and Console
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390 [02:52:33] <k000> "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" works fine, thx
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405 [03:13:51] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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410 [03:14:43] <tobiasBora> I would like to know my bandwith internet usage, but all the tools I tried (for example with "sudo iftop -i wlp3s0") cannot see how many data go though my ethernet card, they always give me "0"
411 [03:14:47] <tobiasBora> Any idea why?
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413 [03:16:17] <tobiasBora> oh, bmon works
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418 [03:18:09] <awal1> tobiasBora, you can look at 'iperf'
419 [03:18:19] <awal1> that'sa nice advanced tool
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424 [03:21:05] <redrabbit> nethogs
425 [03:21:38] <redrabbit> nload
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446 [03:43:26] <tobiasBora> awal1: With iperf it will create your own server, so you cannot really see what happened now on your card right?
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487 [04:09:38] <SnakesAndStuff> Any suggestion on getting an Intel 8260 wireless adapter to work with the Debian 8 live CD (Gnome)?
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511 [04:28:58] <chx> hi. i have a systemd timer which i set up to run daily.how could i run it sooner for testing purposes?
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559 [05:11:47] <jasonwc> I have setup /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth1 to "mtu 9000" but it doesn't apply on startup. I'm seeing MTU1500. However, ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 works, so I'm not sure why it's not being applied.
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581 [05:28:19] <jak2000> hi all
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583 [05:28:29] <jak2000> how to check if apache is listen on port 80?
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585 [05:29:20] <jasonwc> Found my answer. The MTU setting doesn't seem to apply unless you use "iface eth1 inet static"
586 [05:30:23] <cef> jak2000: sudo netstat -tunap|grep apache
587 [05:33:09] <themill> jasonwc: the dhcp server would normally tell the client such information -- the assumption is that the dhcp server should know how the network should be configured. I think you can set it in the dhclient.conf too if you need to
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591 [05:33:51] <jasonwc> I seem to have encountered a bug with the Nvidia drivers in Debian Jessie which impact both the version in Jessie (340.10137) and Jessie-Backports (375-26). It causes freezing while pausing videos, or sometimes in the menu, while using OpenPHT. I've tested OpenPHT's embedded version on the same hardware with a newer version of the Nvidia driver (375.39) and did not encounter this issue.
592 [05:33:59] <jak2000> cef thanks
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609 [05:44:10] <stoned> how do I know if dnsmasq caching is working?
610 [05:44:20] <stoned> I setted it up
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623 [05:49:19] <b0f> I have an (old) AMD GPU and shocked to find fglrx is currently not available; anyone have an idea when it will make it into testing?
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626 [05:50:12] <b0f> I suppose I am glad it's coming back. Nvidia proprietary no longer supports the old GPU I was using and I want OpenCL running
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628 [05:50:56] <rootkea> Hello! I am using Debian Jessie. And I noticed something weird with packages. To install hexchat-plugins apt-get removes hexchat. Now Why one would want to install hexchat-plugins but install hexchat itself?
629 [05:50:58] <cef> b0f: which gpu?
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631 [05:51:20] <rootkea> *uninstall hexchat
632 [05:51:24] <b0f> #debianRadeon HD 8570
633 [05:51:33] <themill> !bat
634 [05:51:34] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
635 [05:51:46] <cef> b0f: I actually meant the nvidia one.. but that's cool too.
636 [05:51:53] <themill> rootkea: ^^ details are necessary, please
637 [05:51:59] <b0f> the nvidia one is now in a box somewhere
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639 [05:52:30] <b0f> I want the HD 8750 (really cheap low end and old) to run deka
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641 [05:52:57] <b0f> I swapped because nouveau doesn't do opencl
642 [05:53:23] <cef> rootkea: you have backports enabled yes?
643 [05:53:27] <b0f> Nope
644 [05:53:28] <themill> rootkea: hexchat-plugins isn't in jessie so that's not going to help the situation.
645 [05:53:31] <ohithere> rootkea: hexchat-plugins isn't a package available on my jessie box
646 [05:53:40] <b0f> I am running vanilla testing on this machine
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648 [05:54:48] <cef> rootkea: backports has 2.12 in it, jessie has 2.10. if you specify hexchat-plugins it'll install that and remove the old version, but because you've not told it to use jessie-backports, it won't install hexchat 2.12
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650 [05:55:19] <cef> rootkea: try `sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports -s install hexchat-plugins` and see what that does.
651 [05:55:47] <cef> rootkea: note that -s is simulate, so it won't actually install it.
652 [05:56:08] <rootkea> cef, I think I need to do `sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install hexchat` and then apt-get install hexchat-plugins
653 [05:56:43] <themill> rootkea: do it in one command
654 [05:56:46] <cef> rootkea: if you actually pass it, it'll be able to fulfil the dependencies.
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657 [05:57:29] <cef> rootkea: the issue is that because you're not explicitly telling it to install from backports, it can't properly work out the dependencies.
658 [05:58:05] <rootkea> themill, ok. I'll get back to you once I did that to report if it worked. Need to close hexchat now and disconnect
659 [05:58:20] <rootkea> cef, I wonder if aptitude would have done the same
660 [05:58:49] <cef> b0f: sorry. was talking to rootkea. multitasking. ;)
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662 [05:59:14] <b0f> cef: no worries - I got that and decided to shut up for a while :)
663 [05:59:40] <cef> b0f: I think most radeon stuff now is supported by the modesetting driver.. not sure about that specific chip/board
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665 [05:59:54] <b0f> I guess the same applies here - check backports? I see it was pulled because it didn't work with Gnome3 and I use that
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667 [06:00:21] <cef> b0f: well if you're running testing, you have all the same packages..
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669 [06:00:35] <b0f> ah ok, then I might need to wait
670 [06:00:36] <cef> b0f: and there is no stretch backports yet that I'm aware of.
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672 [06:01:20] <b0f> I tend to run testing on almost everything and find it great. First problem in years (well, aside from nvidia proprietary)
673 [06:01:49] <cef> b0f: and you couldn't use the nvidia legacy driver with the nvidia card?
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676 [06:02:14] <rootkea> themill, cef, thanks it worked!
677 [06:02:49] <b0f> cef: it gets too messy. can always buy a new card but time lost is hard to recover
678 [06:03:03] <cef> b0f: true true..
679 [06:03:20] <b0f> cef: As it's an old box and a PoC I can either wait or suffer the CPU driver
680 [06:03:36] <b0f> cef: or get into software config hell
681 [06:03:45] <b0f> cef: waiting wins :)
682 [06:03:57] <cef> b0f: I am running the built in intel graphics atm.. tho thinking I might just go buy a cheap nvidia card instead.. since in backports/testing the intel driver isn't very up to date.
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684 [06:05:00] <cef> b0f: heh.. yeah.. in my case, it'll most likely be waiting till stretch-backports appears
685 [06:05:09] <b0f> cef: he he
686 [06:05:59] <b0f> cef: I'm happy enough - I have hit the sweet spot in minimal sysadmin effort for max reward
687 [06:06:16] <cef> b0f: cos unless the debian X team manage to get mesa 17 into stretch, I'm going to just have to live with weird 3D glitches. :/
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689 [06:07:30] <themill> maybe into stretch-backports but not into stretch
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693 [06:08:22] <cef> themill: correct. which means I need to wait till stretch is released, upgrade, then wait till people start actually producing backport pkgs for stretch
694 [06:08:35] <themill> also seems to need a backport of llvm first
695 [06:08:39] <cef> guess I could upgrade to stretch now.. but yeah
696 [06:09:12] <b0f> when is stretch due?
697 [06:09:32] <themill> !wwsr
698 [06:09:32] <dpkg> Well... it's starting to get distinctly chilly... Debian 9 "Stretch" will probably release in mid-2017. It will release sooner if you help fix bugs in stretch and sid... take that as a challenge. Ask me about <stretch freeze>, <how-can-i-help> replaced-url
699 [06:09:49] <cef> themill: they're all in experiemental atm afaik.. but yeah.. no idea what sort of bugs that might eat things are in that
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701 [06:10:45] <themill> llvm-toolchain-4.0 is in unstable
702 [06:12:14] <cef> themill: yeah, but mesa 17 and libdrm 2.4.75 are in experiemental atm (they're the things that will most likely help me). might be there cos buggy, or might be there cos of the stretch freeze. I can wait I guess. ;)
703 [06:13:01] <cef> themill: the issues with running the new intel Kaby Lake CPU's inbuilt graphics I guess. ;)
704 [06:13:02] <themill> I suspect for both reasons
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710 [06:19:22] <aberrant> Hi all. Can someone please explain how my eth0 is participating in dhcp when I’ve got `iface eth0 inet manual` in /etc/network/interfaces?
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713 [06:21:06] <Ben64> aberrant: hey you're not running debian either, doesn't belong here
714 [06:21:27] <aberrant> Ben64: thanks for following me here, but it’s an appropriate place to ask.
715 [06:21:31] <Ben64> it isn't
716 [06:21:44] <aberrant> then feel free to /ignore.
717 [06:21:53] <Ben64> just use the right channels
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719 [06:22:05] <cef> aberrant: Ubuntu? sounds like network manager. can't help you with that here.
720 [06:22:16] <aberrant> cef: raspbian
721 [06:22:49] <cef> aberrant: oh. good luck.
722 [06:22:53] <aberrant> heh, thanks.
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725 [06:23:15] <aberrant> (I’ve asked in those channels also but they seem to be pretty dormant)
726 [06:24:49] <borsin> is 'manual' an option for interfaces? are you trying to set it 'static'?
727 [06:26:08] <aberrant> borsin: `manual` is definitely an option, as it’s on both my systems
728 [06:26:31] <aberrant> I don’t want it to be `static` - dhcp is fine - but I’m just trying to figure out how it’s participating in dhcp.
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731 [06:26:55] <aberrant> it’s not listed anywhere in /etc/dhcpcd.conf
732 [06:27:10] <aberrant> I’m just trying to figure out how the networking setup actually works (or doesn't).
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735 [06:27:35] <cef> Q: What's the recommended way of adding your own program to the debian menu when using the default Debian Desktop environment?
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737 [06:28:16] <cef> 'manual' in /etc/network/interfaces means you'll handle it in the ifup/ifdown scripts yourself, at least in debian.
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739 [06:28:33] <aberrant> cef: ah, let me look in the scripts directory.
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742 [06:31:20] <aberrant> ah, found something: replaced-url
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751 [06:37:01] <pantato> does anyone have any experience overclocking their usb mouse on debian? I've only been able to do it on ubuntu
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757 [06:40:11] <aberrant> alright everyone, thanks. I found the answer in that link I posted. Cheers.
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764 [06:42:38] <pantato> anyone?
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778 [06:53:53] <rootkea1> Hello! I'm new to terminal IRC clients. I found irssi and weechat but can't decide on whic one to use. Which terminal IRC client do you use? Which one will you suggest?
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783 [06:55:20] <rootkea1> *which
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787 [07:00:36] <xormor> rootkea1, irssi
788 [07:00:53] <xormor> there was ircii in the '90's when I was a teenager, but now there is irssi.
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791 [07:03:08] <rootkea1> xormor: Why not weechat?
792 [07:04:54] <xormor> I don't know. I could test it myself!
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797 [07:10:06] <xormor> rootkea1, weechat looks better - the User Interface is nicer than irssi's.
798 [07:10:23] <rootkea> xormor, I echo that!
799 [07:11:13] <rootkea> xormor, Sorry testing IRC clients right now. So have connected through irssi, weechat and hexchat
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803 [07:13:21] <xormor> rootkea, yea
804 [07:14:28] <cef> Q: What's the recommended way (config files, tools, etc) to put your own program inoto the debian menu when using the default Debian Desktop environment? Any ideas?
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806 [07:14:47] <_rubik> rootkea: I used irssi for quite a while, but ended up switching to weechat becuase it's more attractive out of the box
807 [07:15:50] <rootkea> _rubik, is there something which weechat doesn't support/do but irssi does?
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810 [07:16:49] <themill> cef: "Debian menu" probably isn't the best way of doing it. (It's going away)
811 [07:17:02] <_rubik> rootkea: Honestly, I really liked how customizabl irssi was. There were all sorts of packages to configure the thing. It wasn't for a while until I realized I was configuring my irssi to be weechat.
812 [07:17:16] <_rubik> Have been using default weechat ever since.
813 [07:17:54] <_rubik> rootkea: Oh... and a big reason why I said no to irssi, weechat can split it's windows vertically AND horizontally.. irrsi cannot
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815 [07:18:25] <cef> themill: I don't mean "menu" if that's what you're thinking.. I know that's going away.. by "Debian Menu" I mean the standard left side list of programs on a default Debian Desktop.
816 [07:18:49] <themill> So not the Debian Menu then ;)
817 [07:19:19] <themill> There should be a menu editor.
818 [07:19:29] <cef> themill: fair enuff, but I don't know what it's called. :P
819 [07:19:46] <cef> themill: or what else to call it.. to me, it's a menu of some sort.
820 [07:20:01] <themill> Also "default Debian Desktop" isn't really helping me... are we talking gnome? xfce?
821 [07:20:08] <themill> ,i alacarte
822 [07:20:09] <judd> Package alacarte (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: easy GNOME menu editing tool. Version: 3.11.91-2; Size: 108.5k; Installed: 1181k; Screenshot: replaced-url
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824 [07:20:24] <rootkea> cef, on xfce I use MenuLibre
825 [07:20:29] <cef> themill: the default you get in Jessie which, when you install, is referred to as "Debian Desktop". :P
826 [07:20:52] <themill> still not helping me
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829 [07:21:26] <rootkea> cef, screenshot?
830 [07:21:33] <themill> (although I at least know it's jessie now...)
831 [07:21:38] <cef> themill: not helping me either.. I suspect it's the debian gnome thing (ie: not actually "gnome" like iceweasel is not firefox, etc).
832 [07:22:09] <themill> there is no debian gnome thing
833 [07:22:09] <kileo> With netflix now supporting firefox on linux, is firefox-esr (v45*) on Debian 9 going to work with it or will there be a backport later on for a version 47* or higher?
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835 [07:22:56] <rootkea> _rubik, looks like I'm going to be a weechat user. Thank you!
836 [07:23:21] <cef> themill: ok.. it's gnome 3.14
837 [07:23:21] <TimurTheLame> cef, are you talking about the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications?
838 [07:23:35] <themill> kileo: v52 ESR at mozilla.debian.net
839 [07:24:00] <cef> TimurTheLame: I'm talking about wanting to add my own programs to the menu.. if that's how I do it, then that's how I do it. :P
840 [07:24:27] <TimurTheLame> cef, checked themill's suggestion? Alacarte?
841 [07:24:27] <themill> cef: the menu editor will add them in $HOME not in /usr/share though
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843 [07:25:17] <cef> TimurTheLame: Looking at it now
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845 [07:25:24] <cef> themill: that's fine by me..
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847 [07:27:03] <kileo> themill: Would it be more stable to use the firefox package from sid over the firefox-esr from experimental?
848 [07:27:43] <cef> *sigh* so.. I installed it.. and thought "well, it'd surely be called "alacarte" and have an icon in the gui of all applications.. but no.. it'
849 [07:27:58] <cef> it's there, but it's called "Main menu" *sigh*
850 [07:28:20] <themill> cef: gnome wants to call things "Web browser" etc not "Firefox". I don't use gnome.
851 [07:28:59] <themill> kileo: oh, for stretch? I don't really know what to advise for stretch.
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863 [07:34:15] <cef> themill: I used cinnamon for a whoile.. found it problematic.. tried mate for a day.. didn't last longer than that. used to used LXDE, KDE and others but I've gotten tired of the shoe-horning that happens to get the supposed "gnome" way of doing things shoved down every other system's throats breaking the other paradigms.. gnome is annoyingly all-pervasive.
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865 [07:35:04] <cef> themill: thanks for the help tho.
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867 [07:35:19] <themill> np, good luck with it
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884 [07:43:12] <cef> Ugh. Adding an icon to the "Main Menu" works, but to get it to show up the actual icon, you need to restart gnome it seems. Oh well. All done now.
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893 [07:51:22] <pantato> can someone help me? i can't seem to successfully increase my mouse polling rate to 500 hz.
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896 [07:55:30] <musicTech83> I'm trying to have a specific keyboard when plugged in to use a different layout then everything else. I can do this with setxkbmap -device "id" -layout us However this needs to be done each time. I would like a static solution. I'm assuming that can be done with udev but I'm not sure how. Before I just used MatchUSBID in xorg. But that doesn't seem to be the way to do this anymore. How can I use udev to recognize a keyboard device (lsusb
897 [07:55:30] <musicTech83> id and set the layout to us)I use dvorak for everything else, but I do need this device at the normal layout. Any guidance would be most appreciated.
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965 [08:45:30] <user1> hi there!
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969 [08:46:59] <user1> I would like to ask something about environment variable
970 [08:47:31] <nkuttler> just ask
971 [08:48:20] <user1> if the right location, formally supported, is "profile.d" why Debian doesn't execute the scripts inside it?
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973 [08:49:10] <user1> the problem is
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975 [08:49:38] <user1> I need to define enviroment variable by espression
976 [08:49:45] <nkuttler> user1: those should be include by /etc/profile
977 [08:49:53] <nkuttler> what does that mean?
978 [08:50:27] <user1> I try to explain , my english is poor
979 [08:51:03] <user1> to update JAVA_HOME env variable when I change the java verison by update-alternative
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982 [08:51:15] <user1> i did the following configuration
983 [08:51:21] <user1> and works under Ubuntu
984 [08:51:26] <user1> export JAVA_HOME=$(readlink -f /usr/local/bin/java | sed "s:/bin/java::")
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987 [08:51:48] <user1> that espression is inside a script executed in profile.d
988 [08:51:57] <nkuttler> user1: just put that in your ~/.bashrc
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990 [08:52:10] <user1> BUT... in Debian the scripts under profile.d aren't executed at all
991 [08:52:15] <nkuttler> and wth is /usr/local/bin/java anyway..
992 [08:52:23] <nkuttler> user1: i seriously doubt that
993 [08:52:40] <nkuttler> user1: if it is, something is wrong with your setup
994 [08:53:09] <user1> java_home has to be a globa setting for all user
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999 [08:55:10] <user1> how can i solve the problem?
1000 [08:55:24] <flapjack> hello fellow debianites
1001 [08:55:27] <user1> there is a way to execute the scripts in profile.d?
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1004 [08:58:39] <McErroneous> How do i get "set"-command to work to show variables in debian - bash ?
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1007 [09:00:25] <Epakai> does the installer install recommends when it installs a desktop environment task (like task-kde-desktop)?
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1010 [09:02:20] <n4dir> what do you mean with recommends?
1011 [09:02:37] <n4dir> which DE? Or a DE at all?
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1015 [09:05:00] <Epakai> debian packages have 'depends' (other packages that are required for a package to work) and 'recommends' (not requried, but often useful/related)
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1018 [09:06:48] <n4dir> Ah. Sorry, too tired. - Not sure, per default recommends don't get installed, not sure if that is valid for taskel too
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1039 [09:21:39] <Epakai> tasksel was a nice lead, but the documentation didn't explicitly say
1040 [09:22:33] <n4dir> a pity
1041 [09:22:37] <dgriffi> I'm using MATE 1.16.1 in Stretch. when the screen is told to blank, it also locks, regardless of wether I've told it to do that or not. Nobody is besides me as been active in #mate for more than 24 hours.
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1053 [09:28:19] <dgriffi> is anyone awake in here?
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1055 [09:29:20] <TimurTheLame> dgriffi, midnight in the US, morning in Europe, so pretty much no
1056 [09:30:26] <jcdm> How does the chromium-widevine package (stretch) work, after installing I don't see it under "chrome://components" or extensions?
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1061 [09:31:56] <TimurTheLame> jcdm, try running "chromium --enable-remote-extensions" in the cli
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1063 [09:33:21] <TimurTheLame> jcdm, replaced-url
1064 [09:33:22] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1065 [09:34:55] <TimurTheLame> jcdm, replaced-url
1066 [09:35:22] <TimurTheLame> jcdm, it applies to stretch, too
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1068 [09:36:49] <jcdm> TimurTheLame: Opening a new window with that command still doesn't list widevine in components and websites can't find it either.
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1070 [09:38:06] <TimurTheLame> jcdm, can you try backing up your current ~/.config/chromium folder and start chromium with the argument above?
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1077 [09:43:13] <jcdm> Backing up and deleting ~/.config/chromium and then running "chromium --enable-remote-extensions" still doesn't show widevine and I still get an error from the website. "chromium-widevine/testing,now 57.0.2987.98-1 amd64 [installed]"
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1081 [09:44:59] <TheWitherDragon> !ops i am evading all the bans and k-lines for the lulz
1082 [09:45:00] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: thewitherdragon complains about: i am evading all the bans and k-lines for the lulz
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1094 [09:46:58] <cmpunk> hello
1095 [09:47:00] <cmpunk> guyd
1096 [09:47:05] <cmpunk> anyoned on line
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1112 [09:58:20] <d3xter> hey guys, is there a way to find out if the screen is blank apart from "xset q" and looking for "Monitor: off"?
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1167 [10:31:16] <dgriffi> umm... why is libjasper missing from Stretch repos?
1168 [10:32:04] <bazhang> ,v libjasper-runtime
1169 [10:32:05] <judd> Package: libjasper-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.900.1-13+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.900.1-13+deb7u5; jessie: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u2
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1173 [10:34:43] <dgriffi> yes, I can see that it's not in Stretch.
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1176 [10:38:19] <TomTomTo1> #812630
1177 [10:38:20] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1180 [10:40:38] <dgriffi> so.... someone posted to the bug report that libjasper is now being actively maintained, yet the report was closed on account of the upstream being dead...
1181 [10:40:44] <dgriffi> ???
1182 [10:41:34] <Papillon> glitch in the matrix
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1189 [10:44:42] <dgriffi> grr... the build process is a mess and doesn't jibe with the docs
1190 [10:45:00] <Papillon> for jasper?
1191 [10:45:03] <dgriffi> yes
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1196 [10:45:31] <dgriffi> Papillon: it uses cmake, but there's stuff in build already... to compile it
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1198 [10:45:42] <dgriffi> Papillon: but there's no obvious way to install it
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1201 [10:46:05] <dgriffi> Papillon: simply typing "make" doesn't work because cmake didn't produce any makefiles
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1206 [10:47:43] <Latituder> is there any package like cpu z for cpu benchmarking and see its score
1207 [10:47:43] <Latituder> ??
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1212 [10:50:57] <Papillon> probably
1213 [10:51:12] <Papillon> search packages.debian.org for benchmark
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1235 [11:03:57] <pantato> can anyone help me with this mouse overclocking issue? I can't overclock my mouse despite successfully adjusting the usbhid value
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1253 [11:14:28] <plasmoduck> overclocking a mouse?
1254 [11:14:30] <plasmoduck> why?
1255 [11:14:41] <plasmoduck> never heard of that
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1259 [11:17:15] <aZz7eCh> i think he means the dpi
1260 [11:17:37] <aZz7eCh> that or wow... how far behind the times am i if people are overclocking mice these days
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1265 [11:19:08] <dgriffi> what would overclocking a mouse actually do for you?
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1267 [11:19:25] <aZz7eCh> and where will you mount the heatsink
1268 [11:19:25] <Papillon> better reaction rate presumably
1269 [11:19:28] <pantato> aZz7eCh: no. i am adjusting the polling rate, not the dpi.
1270 [11:19:41] <pantato> polling rate is the response time of the mouse essentially. The lag time.
1271 [11:19:56] <dgriffi> that sounds like something that lies with the microcontroller within the mouse itself
1272 [11:19:58] <pantato> the default 125 hz is not viable for competitive FPS. 500 and above is
1273 [11:20:18] <pantato> it needs to be adjusted on the OS side
1274 [11:20:30] <aZz7eCh> are you sure the mouse settings dont Tell the OS ?
1275 [11:20:48] <pantato> yes. I'm absolutely positive
1276 [11:21:02] <pantato> i've adjusted it successfully on ubuntu 14.04
1277 [11:21:12] <pantato> i switched to debian and now i'm having trouble
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1280 [11:21:42] <pantato> replaced-url
1281 [11:22:26] <pantato> the default 125 hz is 8ms lag. 500hz is 2ms and 1000 is 1ms
1282 [11:22:31] <pantato> 125 sucks.
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1284 [11:23:01] <aZz7eCh> i have google but looks like a varied issue. but certainly looks like plenty of others doing the same thing. I cant help you with it, but stick around in chan, someone might respond having resolved similar issues
1285 [11:23:43] <pantato> its very frustrating ive been declining game invitations all day
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1306 [11:35:40] <blackflow> Anyone using the grsec kernel? Any stability issues?
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1328 [11:51:53] <dgriffi> does anyone here still like John Bradley's xv program?
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1335 [11:55:51] <Papillon> I like mplayer though I haven't found a good gui for it, and vlc, but new options are always nice, I wasn't too excited about intel's vaapi, but it seems like it's been accepted by nvidia and amd, so that might be the future
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1338 [11:57:34] <dgriffi> Papillon: are you repling to my query on Bradley's xv?
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1340 [11:57:58] <Papillon> I think so, xv's that video acceleration thing, right?
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1342 [11:58:20] <Papillon> replaced-url
1343 [11:58:29] <dgriffi> that's not the xv I'm thinking of
1344 [11:58:48] <dgriffi> replaced-url
1345 [11:58:50] <dgriffi> that's the one
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1347 [11:59:22] <Papillon> the image viewers I've used and liked have been acdsee and more recently irfanview
1348 [11:59:29] <dgriffi> I'm having trouble with some nuances of libpng's structures
1349 [11:59:38] <Papillon> haven't had much success finding a good one on linux
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1351 [11:59:53] <dgriffi> I have a github repo of xv kept up to date to make sure it compiles and runs with modern unicies
1352 [12:00:10] <dgriffi> so far, so good. now that Stretch is appearing, some bitrot appeared
1353 [12:00:10] <Papillon> I want to like png but the file sizes are always just crazy, ten times larger than they should be
1354 [12:00:11] <fewioh> Hello. Does Debian Testing contain freeze periods even if I use Testing as my sources (rather than Stretch) ?
1355 [12:00:34] <dgriffi> Papillon: first thing to fix was some oddities with zlib. easy.
1356 [12:00:50] <Papillon> good
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1358 [12:01:27] <dgriffi> Papillon: now I get this when compiling: replaced-url
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1363 [12:02:28] <Papillon> it seems like it should be easier to find and compare libraries
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1366 [12:04:17] <Papillon> my c's worse than I though, you might ask in a c specific room or linux or some place
1367 [12:04:30] <Papillon> is it possible that there's a struct conflict?
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1370 [12:05:00] <Papillon> replaced-url
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1373 [12:05:52] <Papillon> are you sure those structs are defined somewhere?
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1378 [12:06:24] <Papillon> "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" means you are trying to access something in a struct that hasn't been defined yet. It's been declared, but not defined.
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1380 [12:06:49] <dgriffi> Papillon: yeah... in /usr/include/png.h. but the way the struct is defined is beyond belief... it's buried in macros. there's no actual struct { blah blah } stuff for me to look at.
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1384 [12:07:12] <Papillon> odd... you'd think libpng would just work
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1387 [12:07:25] <dgriffi> lots of ifdefs on how libpng is compiled to decide if something is included in the struct statement presented to the compiler
1388 [12:07:28] <Papillon> macros as in pecompiler macros?
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1390 [12:07:41] <dgriffi> look at /usr/include/png.h and see for yourself
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1392 [12:08:06] <Papillon> I don't have that, but I guess maybe you could fix it with some compile time flags?
1393 [12:08:12] <Papillon> or in the make file or whatever
1394 [12:08:28] <Papillon> or maybe just define it in xv
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1398 [12:09:57] <dgriffi> Papillon: check this out for yuks: replaced-url
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1400 [12:10:09] <dgriffi> I think I figured out the long jump substitutes
1401 [12:10:17] <dgriffi> just one more oddity to squash
1402 [12:10:53] <Papillon> y2k compliance by 2017!
1403 [12:10:59] <dgriffi> something changed with libpng between Jessie and Stretch
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1407 [12:12:55] <fewioh> Hello. Does Debian Testing contain freeze periods even if I use Testing as my sources (rather than Stretch) ?
1408 [12:13:45] <dgriffi> fewioh: Testing is Stretch.
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1412 [12:14:12] <fewioh> dgriffi: I mean when Stretch will become the new stable. There'll be a freezing period, right?
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1414 [12:14:35] <dgriffi> fewioh: when Stretch becomes stable, then for an instant, stable is the same as testing.
1415 [12:14:37] <fewioh> What if I don't want my system to turn into Stable over time, but I want to stick to Testing; will I still undergo a freeze period?
1416 [12:15:04] <dgriffi> fewioh: then the freezes will be removed from Testing and things start happening all over again
1417 [12:15:33] <dgriffi> fewioh: just use "testing" instead of "stretch" in your sources.list files
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1422 [12:16:36] <fewioh> It still sounds vague. How long is 'an instant'? Aren't the freeze periods multiple months long?
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1424 [12:17:39] <Papillon> it depends, I don't think ~30 days would be unusual
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1430 [12:20:47] <cef> pantato: what's in your /etc/modprobe.d/usbhid.conf file?
1431 [12:20:59] <bernhardr> Hi im struggeling while upgrading the kernel. your help is much appriciated to solve this issue..
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1433 [12:21:10] <bernhardr> Please see the error etc here replaced-url
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1437 [12:21:59] <pantato> cef:
1438 [12:22:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
1439 [12:22:24] <bernhardr> this seems to be because rootfs eg. /dev/mapper/root is to small and almost full /dev/mapper/root 329233 270869 41366 87% /
1440 [12:22:29] <pantato> cef: options usbhid mousepoll=2
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1444 [12:22:59] <pantato> cef: also when i run cat /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll it yields "2" and it just DOESN'T work. My mouse simply STUCK at 125 hz. So frustrating!!
1445 [12:23:07] <cef> pantato: which kernel are you running?
1446 [12:23:22] <pantato> 4.9.0-2-amd64
1447 [12:23:52] <cef> pantato: using stretch?
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1449 [12:25:08] <pantato> cef: sid
1450 [12:25:14] <pantato> unstable
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1454 [12:26:34] <cef> pantato: ahh ok.. hrm.. I am running jessie (with backports) and yeah.. I've been able to set my mousepoll to 1 successfully.. I need to check the returned poll rate tho
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1457 [12:27:28] <pantato> cef: replaced-url
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1464 [12:30:33] <pantato> cef: or this program replaced-url
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1466 [12:31:28] <cef> pantato: I just checked in lsusb, and no.. it's still at 100 Hz..
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1470 [12:31:57] <pantato> cef: 100 or 125?
1471 [12:32:22] <pantato> cef: what if you unplug and plug your mouse back in?
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1473 [12:32:29] <cef> pantato: bInterval is 10..
1474 [12:32:32] <pantato> I had to do it when i got it working before in ubuntu 14.04
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1476 [12:33:16] <cef> still 10
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1478 [12:33:39] <pantato> maybe i should try arch...
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1481 [12:34:12] <cef> you notice even on the arch wiki it says there's a problem in certain kernels that causes this exact behaviour
1482 [12:34:38] <pantato> no
1483 [12:34:48] <pantato> this is not the behavior that it was describing
1484 [12:35:18] <pantato> it was saying that 1 version of the kernel has trouble with 1000hz and seeing it as 500 hz or something. I can't even get to 500 hz
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1487 [12:36:04] <pantato> "As of May 2015 there is a kernel bug that under certain configurations prevents devices from reaching 1000hz (1ms) polling rate."
1488 [12:36:19] <pantato> i've been trying to set mine to 2 (500 hz) this whole time, not 1
1489 [12:36:55] <cef> ahh yup. hrm...
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1493 [12:37:58] <pantato> 500 is all i need.
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1499 [12:41:32] <pantato> cef: can you humor me and run one of those two programs i linked and tell me what it says?
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1503 [12:42:37] <OtakuSenpai> how do i completely remove a package from my system?
1504 [12:42:52] <OtakuSenpai> apt-get remove && apt-get purge?
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1506 [12:43:37] <pantato> OtakuSenpai: apt-get remove --purge package
1507 [12:43:47] <OtakuSenpai> thnx
1508 [12:43:58] <pantato> or --purge before remove i forget
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1512 [12:46:03] <cef> pantato: at the moment it's like mousepoll doesn't do a thing... including passing it using echo (eg: `echo 2 > /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll` )
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1520 [12:49:57] <pantato> cef: youre not supposed to be able to adjust it like that
1521 [12:50:25] <pantato> cef: can you look at one of those programs? the number you told me doesnt make any sense
1522 [12:50:27] <cef> pantato: I've tried it using modprobe.d, and directly on the modprobe cmdline.. they're all supposed to work.
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1531 [12:52:05] <cef> pantato: about to try evhz.. just didn't have any build env on this machine
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1538 [12:53:54] <cef> pantato: and my net connection is slow. :/
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1541 [12:54:17] <pantato> cef: i got 1 gbps up and down
1542 [12:54:24] <pantato> :p
1543 [12:54:35] <cef> pantato: I get 8mbps max down, on a good day.
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1546 [12:55:20] <cef> pantato: 125
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1553 [12:56:51] <dgriffi> where's a place to ask questions on the innards of libpng?
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1556 [12:57:44] <pantato> cef: so lame. i think ill start a thread on the debian forums about it
1557 [12:58:00] <cef> pantato: tried a diff usb port.. still 125.. mousepoll is def set right
1558 [12:58:04] <mernilio> Hi all! And thanks for having me!
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1560 [12:58:15] <cef> pantato: even tried setting it to 3.
1561 [12:58:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> dgriffi, for here on freenode, you can try /msg alis list png
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1565 [12:59:09] <cef> pantato: will keep an eye out for it
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1569 [13:02:18] <mernilio> If you want to ask somebody about a channel ... i have q about android development .. what channel should i look for ansver in?
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1572 [13:03:00] <abrotman> mernilio: /msg alis list android
1573 [13:03:10] <pantato> cef: do you know where i can edit my x profile? i have a custom resolution i need to add with xrandr at boot and debian doesnt seem to care about ~/.xprofile
1574 [13:03:19] <mernilio> abrotman: good answer! Thanks!
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1578 [13:04:47] <teraflops> pantato: it's not debian that cares about ~/.xprofile, it's about you're doing something wrong
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1580 [13:05:56] <pantato> teraflops: so debian does load off of .xprofile ?
1581 [13:06:05] <teraflops> it's not about debian
1582 [13:06:11] <pantato> ...
1583 [13:06:15] <stoned> #android #android-root #android-dev probably
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1586 [13:06:36] <teraflops> pantato: mind elaborating? as in: you do startx or not? yo use a DM? which one?
1587 [13:06:40] <stoned> I've never heard of an .xprofile file
1588 [13:06:42] <teraflops> you*
1589 [13:06:42] <stoned> is this new?
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1591 [13:07:04] <pantato> stoned: i used it with ubuntu
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1593 [13:07:06] <teraflops> stoned: define new, we are talking about debian…
1594 [13:07:09] <pantato> might just be a unity thing
1595 [13:07:16] <pantato> i use lxde
1596 [13:07:18] <pantato> now
1597 [13:07:20] <stoned> .xprofile is definitely not a debian config file for X
1598 [13:07:22] <stoned> afaik.
1599 [13:07:29] <teraflops> stoned: ugh
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1601 [13:07:35] <teraflops> pantato: again, you do startx or not?
1602 [13:07:46] <teraflops> you use a DM? which one?
1603 [13:07:48] <pantato> teraflops: no. X starts automatically.
1604 [13:07:49] <pantato> what's DM
1605 [13:07:54] <teraflops> ಠ_ಠ
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1607 [13:07:57] <stoned> Display Manager (login screen)
1608 [13:08:02] <teraflops> !dm
1609 [13:08:02] <dpkg> DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <lightdm>, <gdm3>, <xdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app and <slim> are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. Or Debian Maintainer: replaced-url
1610 [13:08:33] <abrotman> what is pantato actually trying to do?
1611 [13:08:42] <teraflops> pantato: lightdm gdm and sddm source ~/.xprofile for sure
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1613 [13:08:46] <pantato> yes, i do have that. I don't know what it's called. How do I find out?
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1615 [13:09:42] <pantato> teraflops: apparently I'm using lightdm according ot the contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager
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1618 [13:10:02] <teraflops> pantato: then it sources ~/.xprofile
1619 [13:10:06] <pantato> wow and i just lost my custom resolution again just from logging out to look at my DM. So lame.
1620 [13:10:12] <pantato> well it's not
1621 [13:10:26] <pantato> it's not working. When I use the same exact commands manually it works fin
1622 [13:10:31] <pantato> fine*
1623 [13:10:34] <teraflops> pantato: so, paste your ~/.xprofile to a same pastebin service because it looks like it may be wrong
1624 [13:10:39] <stoned> ok, so there is an .xprofile then? I'm confused!
1625 [13:10:46] <stoned> Someone tell me fastly, what is going on?
1626 [13:10:51] <pantato> teraflops: it's NOT wrong
1627 [13:10:54] <stoned> I have never heard of this .xprofile file.
1628 [13:10:59] <teraflops> pantato: ok, good luck
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1630 [13:11:16] <pantato> teraflops: replaced-url
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1633 [13:11:34] <teraflops> pantato: in not going to click a patebin.con link
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1635 [13:12:20] <stoned> Oh. That's your bash script to launch when X starts I assume.
1636 [13:12:23] <stoned> I looked at your pastebin.
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1638 [13:12:33] <stoned> I put everything in debian for X inside my ~/.xsessionrc file
1639 [13:12:44] <stoned> same bash script almost, launhing my various X stuffs
1640 [13:12:49] <pantato> teraflops: replaced-url
1641 [13:12:50] <stoned> xrandr what not.
1642 [13:12:59] <stoned> why not use the .xsessionrc file?
1643 [13:13:13] <stoned> Where the heck/when the heck did this .xprofile come into existence in linux?
1644 [13:13:17] <stoned> I ben asleep to long.
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1647 [13:13:53] <pantato> teraflops: I can't read your mind as to what pastebin you find acceptable.
1648 [13:14:06] <pantato> I just looked that one up and used it because it doesn't have ads
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1651 [13:14:25] <teraflops> pantato: pastebin.com is not a sane pastebin in neither of the 14 universes
1652 [13:14:27] <stoned> replaced-url
1653 [13:14:58] <teraflops> pantato: btw you dont need the #!/bin/sh shebang there
1654 [13:15:05] <blackflow> Can anyone tell me, or where can I look that up, if Ubuntu kernel's "SAUCE" patches end up in Debian's kernel (since it's -ckt)?
1655 [13:15:42] <pantato> is that why it's not working?
1656 [13:15:43] <teraflops> pantato: so those xrandr lines work if you run them from inside your DE?
1657 [13:15:53] <pantato> yes.
1658 [13:16:00] <pantato> I ran that file directly actually.
1659 [13:16:20] <teraflops> pantato: I'm pretty sure lighdm sources ~/.xprofile
1660 [13:16:24] <pantato> i just ran ~/.xprofile in my terminal and it showed up
1661 [13:16:30] <pantato> i'm pretty sure it does as well.
1662 [13:17:29] * themill can't find anywhere in the code where it does so
1663 [13:17:48] <abrotman> have you checked the lightdm man page?
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1665 [13:18:30] <teraflops> me?
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1667 [13:20:33] <teraflops> pantato: I'm not at work so I dont have any debian machines at hand, you can do a trivial test anyway. like touching a file at ~/ from inside ~/.xprofile, or something like that
1668 [13:21:07] <teraflops> because unless I'm brainfarting I've tested it many times
1669 [13:21:33] <pantato> teraflops: I don't know. My DM doesn't look like the lightdm I know.
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1671 [13:21:40] <teraflops> :S
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1674 [13:23:00] <teraflops> pantato: it's so easy to find out if lighdm is running there
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1676 [13:23:22] <teraflops> pgrep, ps, journalctl…
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1682 [13:25:25] <pantato> teraflops: teraflops: pregrep lightdm yield 2 numbers
1683 [13:25:32] <teraflops> ok then
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1687 [13:26:39] <teraflops> pantato: for the sake of my sanity mind adding a touch ~/TEST at top of your ~/.xprofile and restart lightdm?
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1689 [13:27:57] <pantato> teraflops: nope. nada.
1690 [13:28:02] <pantato> no TEST file
1691 [13:28:17] <pantato> maybe this version uses a different file
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1694 [13:29:03] <teraflops> pantato: weird, I'm indeed brainfarting then
1695 [13:29:08] <pantato> maybe something to do with LXDE ?
1696 [13:29:20] <pantato> teraflops: it worked with unity / debian
1697 [13:29:25] <pantato> i mean unity / ubuntu
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1699 [13:29:44] <teraflops> well this is debian
1700 [13:29:46] <pantato> linux doesn't like CRT monitors anymore so I gotta run these commands
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1702 [13:30:13] <themill> s/CRT monitors/CRT monitors that lie about their capabilities/
1703 [13:30:37] <pantato> this one doesn't lie
1704 [13:30:38] <teraflops> im about to install a debian VM I think, before going to the psychiatrist
1705 [13:30:52] <Walakea> if i understand it correctly, -dev packages are meant to be used to develop programs using that library? for example libopenscenegraph itself is a library to be used by compiled program, while lib...-dev is for development?
1706 [13:30:56] <pantato> teraflops: i'm using unstable
1707 [13:31:18] <pantato> teraflops: figure out how to adjust my mouse's polling rate while you're at it
1708 [13:31:21] <pantato> I care way more about that
1709 [13:31:24] <teraflops> pantato: it does not mean nothing unless there's a bug
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1712 [13:31:37] <pantato> teraflops: just letting you know
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1714 [13:31:41] <teraflops> xD
1715 [13:32:11] <pantato> man. I need a new job.
1716 [13:32:12] <tw> Walakea: that's generally correct. *-dev is usually header files
1717 [13:32:31] <pantato> I have this fantasy one day that someone from IRC will give me a job where they train me on the job
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1722 [13:34:22] <BluesKaj> pantato, don't think much of IRC is monetized , read: very few jobs
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1725 [13:35:59] <sh00p> ok I need a bit of help here... I have this md raid5 array
1726 [13:36:10] <sh00p> one disk was SMART'ing out on me, so I replaced it and re-added it
1727 [13:36:17] <sh00p> it came to about 30% of resilvering
1728 [13:36:44] <sh00p> now it looks like this
1729 [13:36:45] <sh00p> replaced-url
1730 [13:36:58] <pantato> BluesKaj: lol i'm not talking about working for "IRC"
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1732 [13:37:18] <sh00p> this is in dmesg: replaced-url
1733 [13:37:23] <sh00p> is my array fucked?
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1735 [13:37:53] <BluesKaj> pantato, ok, guess i misunderstood
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1737 [13:40:49] <BluesKaj> pantato, I've been o n IRC for 20yrs, but nobody has ever offered anyone a job in the public chat, perhaps in a PM
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1739 [13:41:08] <tw> sh00p: you had a second device failure while rebuilding the array. =( You can see from mdstat that you're down to 1 active disk in your RAID5.
1740 [13:41:14] <pantato> BluesKaj: yes I'm sure a private chat is where it would go down if at all
1741 [13:41:28] <BluesKaj> yup
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1743 [13:41:35] <sh00p> yea tw, this is bad... but i hope it's just a hiccup on one of them
1744 [13:41:41] <sh00p> can i "force" it back online?
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1752 [13:43:46] <tw> sh00p: quick google search reveals replaced-url
1753 [13:43:51] <tw> never had to do that, ymmv.
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1755 [13:45:04] <SwedeMike> sh00p: go to #linux-raid, we're used to helping people with mdadm raid problems there.
1756 [13:45:09] <sh00p> cool
1757 [13:45:19] <sh00p> i'm rebooting my system now, be right in there
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1769 [13:59:15] <newcoder> Is there any live debian cd?
1770 [13:59:38] <petn-randall> !debian live
1771 [13:59:38] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from replaced-url
1772 [13:59:43] <petn-randall> newcoder: ^^^
1773 [14:00:50] <pantato> teraflops: any insights?
1774 [14:01:12] <Papillon> never go against a sicilian when life is on the line
1775 [14:01:15] <teraflops> pantato: not really, I'm installing jessie in a VM
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1784 [14:04:01] <julius_> hi
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1786 [14:04:21] <julius_> why would the sdcard in my laptop reader be mounted ro by gnome? /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/julius/DSC_DISK type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev
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1790 [14:05:46] <anthonyyy> hi
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1792 [14:07:08] <Papillon> some sdcards have a read only tab. Maybe the ro tab on your sd card was flipped
1793 [14:07:11] <Papillon> hi anthonyyy
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1796 [14:08:08] <anthonyyy> Very good creatures Mr
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1809 [14:21:48] <julius_> let me see
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1811 [14:22:26] <julius_> Papillon, youre right....never used sdcards before...
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1896 [15:11:21] <duser> sorry to ask ubnutu question here. but i can't find answer online atm. my problem is i accidently add ibus-deamon to my .profile. and now the login shell will repeatedly even password is correct. i can't sudo nor change root password. how can i do remove the line appended in the .profile so i can login?
1897 [15:11:29] <duser> now i am using guest session.
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1900 [15:13:48] <turlutton> Hey there, how can I troubleshot my bluetooth connection? It seems my android phone and laptop are paired, I can send a file from my laptop to my phone, but when I try to send a file to my laptop it fails all the time. I don't know where to start, except that It seems weird that I don't have a pop up menu on my laptop asking if I allow the file to be transfered when I'm sending it via my phone.
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1902 [15:14:44] <abrotman> duser: try #ubuntu
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1908 [15:17:42] <turlutton> from my phone it just says "Transfer forbidden my target device."
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1942 [15:34:53] <dionysus69> hello all
1943 [15:35:08] <dionysus69> I am trying to turn on 5.1 surround for the internal speakers on my laptop
1944 [15:35:26] <dionysus69> but pulseaudio pavucontrol doesnt give me an option to, only on HDMI
1945 [15:35:46] <dionysus69> and laptop sound sucks, windows sound is like 3-4 times louder and better quality
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1949 [15:37:12] <jhutchins> dionysus69: See if you can do anything with alsamixer.
1950 [15:37:21] <dionysus69> I couldnt :S
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1952 [15:37:26] <dionysus69> I tried that and then deleted it
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1967 [15:46:41] <petn-randall> dionysus69: Does you laptop even have 6 speakers? I'd be surprised.
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1970 [15:47:09] <dionysus69> petn-randall: lol no just 2 speakers
1971 [15:47:43] <dionysus69> I am not that familiar with audio world that much, I am just trying to make sound better, as I said it sucks real bad compared to windows
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1973 [15:48:57] <petn-randall> dionysus69: I'd just check if the loudness is turned up on alsa and pulseaudio. PA also allows to turn up the volume over 100%.
1974 [15:49:07] <dionysus69> haha ye I know
1975 [15:49:21] <dionysus69> if I put it on 150% sounds distorts
1976 [15:49:22] <turlutton> dionysus69: "All 5.1 systems use the same speaker channels and configuration, having a front left and right, a center channel, two surround channels and a subwoofer."
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1978 [15:49:36] <dionysus69> there is no sense of depth in sound
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1984 [15:50:40] <petn-randall> I'm pretty sure Windows will also just downsample any audio input. Either that or Windows can spawn two more speakers and a subwoofer for you. I guess Debian can't do that.
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1986 [15:51:06] <aZz7eCh> Jelly about this time of day?
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1988 [15:51:37] <dionysus69> all I know is that windows has better sound,I never meant to direct discussion in 5.1 route, I guess I was off track
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1991 [15:52:21] <petn-randall> dionysus69: the alsamixer also has a few more knobs you could try, depending on your soundcard.
1992 [15:53:11] <dionysus69> Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
1993 [15:53:29] <dionysus69> lspci
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2012 [15:59:06] <aZz7eCh> okay. so. guys. i can ssh into my file server without it asking for a password [client: ssh-keygen -t rsa] then uploaded the pub copy to server and set perms. good stuff. so i figured i'd then make a .sh bash file that runs my sshfs command for me, pointing permission at my .ssh/id_rsa file .... i'm not getting anywhere fast. i am googling but most results are for people tryign to add the sshfs command to fstab. seems wildly different command
2013 [15:59:07] <aZz7eCh> stuctrure to what i'mt ryign to do in a smiple bash script... any pointers apprecitated.
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2017 [16:00:09] <aZz7eCh> basically, executing my sh file, still wants me to put in password of the server etc..
2018 [16:00:28] <dionysus69> I installed pulseaudio-equalizer and cant even find it,
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2035 [16:08:23] <aZz7eCh> ohhh... gawd. maybe i need to do the keygen bit as root
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2040 [16:11:42] <aZz7eCh> egh... confused. okay dropped sudo from tryign to run sshfs ... and suddenly sshfs is happy to work without sudo ... go figure wth
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2051 [16:18:59] <teraflops> pantato: yeah I was mistaken, ligthdm does not source ~/.xprofile, it's GDM actually. Unless I'm actually brainfarting I think I just mistaken the former with the later. sorry for the noise
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2056 [16:25:28] <CutMeOwnThroat> aZz…
2057 [16:25:58] <CutMeOwnThroat> yeah… it's the best way to describe a problem such that all detail necessary for the answer is missing
2058 [16:26:24] <CutMeOwnThroat> also choosing a nick that you need to squint at twice to figure out how to address it…
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2060 [16:28:43] <BluesKaj> hate those guys who place a __ to prefix their nicks
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2087 [16:41:29] <Kiril> hello
2088 [16:42:01] <Kiril> could you tell me what's the exact name of gnutls and and its development headers in debian 8.7
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2096 [16:43:39] <testtest> hello?
2097 [16:44:02] <teraflops> testtest: yes we can hear you
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2101 [16:47:47] <ghormoon> hi, does anyone use vga passthrough on debian with rx 480?
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2106 [16:49:22] <testtest> is debian pretty easy to install on an old laptop? are there a lot of hardware issues as freebsd seems to have ? i have an old acer x550c
2107 [16:50:07] <Voldenet> afair linux is easier to install on ancient hardware
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2109 [16:50:11] <Voldenet> than on cutting-edge hardware
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2111 [16:51:15] <mtn> testtest: always depends on the hardware. use the wiki to research your hardware with debian
2112 [16:51:22] <Voldenet> I wouldn't put my life on line, but I think debian would fully work on 15-years old PCs (although some hardware might've gotten deprecated)
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2114 [16:51:57] <testtest> mtn + voldenet - thanks i'll give it a shot.
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2124 [16:55:10] <ghormoon> especially on laptop I'd succest to enable nonfree repos, because of wifi drivers etc.
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2173 [17:26:16] <Spec> debian cd installer shell doesn't have fdisk? :-/
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2182 [17:28:27] <Voldenet> Spec: eh, doesn't it? I thought it does, which version exactly
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2184 [17:30:35] <Voldenet> I'm checking debian-live-8.7.1-amd64-standard.iso now and it does have fdisk
2185 [17:30:49] <Voldenet> Spec: are you a root though?
2186 [17:31:17] <Voldenet> because it's in /sbin
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2201 [17:39:07] <Spec> Voldenet: not live, just busybox/installer
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2217 [17:46:27] <dionysus69> cant launch pulseaudio-equalizer
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2219 [17:46:37] <dionysus69> can anyone tell me which equalizer should I use?
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2221 [17:47:01] <dionysus69> currently I am stuck with analog stereo audio profile
2222 [17:47:04] <dionysus69> and pavucontrol
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2224 [17:47:09] <dionysus69> and audio sucks
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2238 [17:52:18] <Voldenet> Spec: tell me the iso name, so I know which version :D
2239 [17:52:36] <Voldenet> I'll check it, because I think installer should have an fdisk
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2241 [17:54:08] <Spec> Voldenet: debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso
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2256 [18:01:35] <Voldenet> hmmm, hmm, it does contain fdisk, but not in the nicest form
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2258 [18:02:09] <Voldenet> Spec: if you don't mind, you could try extracting pool/main/u/util-linux/fdisk-udeb_2.25.2-6_amd64.udeb and I guess it should work
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2260 [18:02:51] <AccessDenied> Hi
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2266 [18:06:13] <Voldenet> Spec: cd / ; ar x /cdrom/pool/main/u/util-linux/fdisk-udeb_2.25.2-6_amd64.udeb ; xzcat data.tar.xz | tar x ; //tmp/usr/sbin/fdisk
2267 [18:06:17] <Voldenet> voila :P
2268 [18:06:21] <Voldenet> extremely hacky
2269 [18:06:41] <Voldenet> it's there, just not in the plain sight :P
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2286 [18:12:52] <lucas-arg> hello all, im tryin to install debian in a MSI laptop which has intel wifi and optimus technology, obiously uefi... im downloading the cd1 since netinstall wont boot uefi, but i got a couple of problems, my wifi adapter is no recognize, and my touchpad isnt either... so im kinda stuck, please need advice...
2287 [18:13:36] <Voldenet> Spec: I accidentally removed cd / at the beginning, but it should work nonetheless, will just install stuff in /usr/sbin/fdisk
2288 [18:14:25] <Voldenet> lucas-arg: 'no recognize' meaning what exactly, lspci doesn't recognize it, or dmesg doesn't tell you it's loading modules for it?
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2292 [18:15:31] <lucas-arg> Voldenet, it does not function
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2298 [18:16:29] <BluesKaj> lucas-arg, first of all always install with the ethernet cable connected
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2301 [18:17:08] <lucas-arg> BluesKaj, i think i wont need to do so since i have the cd1 so just will install base system
2302 [18:17:08] <Voldenet> BluesKaj: some hardware has only wifi + you can install debian without any connectivity
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2304 [18:17:25] <Voldenet> s/you can/you should be able/
2305 [18:17:29] <lucas-arg> then i can install anything else i guess
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2307 [18:18:05] <Voldenet> lucas-arg: check lspci for the output, check lsmod/modinfo/dmesg to verify if drivers are installed
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2310 [18:18:59] <BluesKaj> lucas-arg, Voldenet ok have it your way, I'll stay out out of this
2311 [18:19:18] <Voldenet> :)
2312 [18:19:20] <lucas-arg> thanks guys ill give it a try
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2316 [18:21:18] <Voldenet> lucas-arg: there are a couple of guides to see
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2318 [18:21:22] <Voldenet> replaced-url
2319 [18:21:28] <Voldenet> replaced-url
2320 [18:21:57] <dionysus69> how do I download this replaced-url
2321 [18:21:57] <Voldenet> it basically tells you what to do step by step, report in case of troubles :)
2322 [18:22:03] <dionysus69> it is ubuntu equalizer
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2324 [18:23:02] <Voldenet> it could probably work in debian, but you'd need `apt-get install software-properties-common` first
2325 [18:23:10] <Voldenet> for add-apt-repository
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2327 [18:24:01] <lucas-arg> thanks
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2337 [18:27:02] <Spec> Voldenet: nice findings
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2341 [18:29:00] <Voldenet> Spec: it's all there, just use `find` command
2342 [18:29:01] <Voldenet> :-)
2343 [18:29:16] <Spec> Voldenet: i did, but only found references in udev for "fdisk"
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2345 [18:29:35] <mernilio> Hi all! Debian-offtopic seems off-line?
2346 [18:29:37] <Spec> i guess i didn't check cd or the cd wasn't mounted yet? i don't know why i didn't see the udeb package
2347 [18:29:44] <abrotman> mernilio: huh?
2348 [18:30:05] <Voldenet> ah, probably, there's a step where installer detects the medium, so it probably mounts there
2349 [18:30:19] <mernilio> I have so much non-debian talk you cant imagine! ... i need debian-offtopic!
2350 [18:30:26] <mernilio> ;-)
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2353 [18:30:30] <Voldenet> mernilio: calm down, it is up
2354 [18:30:35] <abrotman> mernilio: so you were banned for being a pain in the neck, got it
2355 [18:30:36] <mernilio> oki
2356 [18:30:52] <dionysus69> thanks Voldenet!
2357 [18:30:53] <Voldenet> maybe you just got banned for annoying mean guys ;)
2358 [18:31:28] <mernilio> I do bow my head for the debian guys here for having me back. :-)
2359 [18:31:33] <Voldenet> dionysus69: no problem, but I don't remember helping :-)
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2361 [18:32:08] <abrotman> mernilio: Do you need help with Debian?
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2368 [18:33:13] <mernilio> Yeah, my girlfriend is a avid Redhat user, how can i convert her to use Debian?
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2372 [18:33:58] <Voldenet> hmm, that's a problem with debian, maybe try changing your gf and see if that helps
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2375 [18:34:19] <Voldenet> or see dmesg for any helpful error messages that lead to that horrible mistake
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2380 [18:35:59] <mernilio> It was a stupid reply.. Im sorry abrotman. And for the rest of you i hope to see you again i hope!
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2388 [18:38:39] <abrotman> please don't feed the troll
2389 [18:38:47] <BluesKaj> Voldenet, nice one there ;/
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2394 [18:39:45] <Voldenet> Eh, sorry, I can't stop being playful if I see funny questions ;)
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2396 [18:41:02] <BluesKaj> playful?
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2399 [18:42:11] <Voldenet> Yeah, joke for a joke seems like a nice exchange, so everyone can /theoretically/ have a laugh
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2402 [18:42:47] <sky> hi there, I installed libexif via dpkg and didnt get a resulting pkgconfig file
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2405 [18:43:48] <abrotman> sky: you probably want libexif-dev
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2407 [18:44:30] <sky> hrm could be
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2415 [18:48:03] <sky> of course libexif-dev needs jquery!
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2458 [19:02:05] <lowin> Am I being too hopeful to anticipate stretch release sometime in april?
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2464 [19:04:23] <missmbob> yes
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2471 [19:05:40] <Brigo> lowin, i think so
2472 [19:05:47] <Toba> all the guides to installing jessie with virt-install involve pointing it at an unsecure http netboot source
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2474 [19:06:00] <Toba> does anyone have advice on how to set up a secure setup for installing jessie VMs?
2475 [19:06:00] <Brigo> lowin, it will be released when release bugs reach 0: replaced-url
2476 [19:06:15] <Toba> because I just can't bring myself to do a machine install over unverified media
2477 [19:06:39] <Brigo> Toba, can you point me to one of those guides?
2478 [19:06:43] <lowin> Brigo, Right now there are 211 bugs, right?
2479 [19:06:45] <Toba> sure, let me find the one i was looking at.
2480 [19:06:52] <Brigo> lowin, yes
2481 [19:07:04] <Brigo> 7 less than yesterday, fyi.
2482 [19:07:22] <Toba> replaced-url
2483 [19:07:25] <Toba> that's one
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2485 [19:07:49] <Toba> all plain http
2486 [19:07:51] <Toba> :(
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2488 [19:08:10] <lowin> brigo, cool.. I'm not in a hurry. Just excited to see some new software versions!! 2 years passed so fast
2489 [19:08:21] <Toba> replaced-url
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2491 [19:08:34] <Brigo> lowin, you are right.
2492 [19:08:36] <Toba> it's weird, --location is supposed to work with isos but it seems to not really work.
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2495 [19:10:14] <Toba> Brigo: what do you think?
2496 [19:10:17] <Toba> no rush...
2497 [19:10:22] * Toba reads the stackexchange over again
2498 [19:10:31] <Toba> it's been a couple weeks since I was trying to do this last and I gave up at the time
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2502 [19:13:00] <Brigo> Toba, it looks like it's a virt-install issue with debian iso image.
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2509 [19:16:40] <Toba> yeah.
2510 [19:16:53] <Toba> although I would be fine with a way to securely create my own netboot server.
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2512 [19:16:57] <Toba> I guess I will look into that.
2513 [19:17:13] <Toba> I am not tied to virt-install or any particular method...
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2536 [19:28:24] <ChmEarl> Toba, try using the CD1 ISO instead of netboot
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2545 [19:34:25] <Toba> ChmEarl: cd1 iso with --location?
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2547 [19:34:29] <Toba> ok i will.
2548 [19:35:07] <ChmEarl> Toba, I meant `instead of the netboot ISO`
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2552 [19:36:50] <Toba> so something like
2553 [19:36:51] <Toba> virt-install --virt-type kvm --name test8 --memory 2048 --disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/test8-1.qcow2,size=5 --disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/test8-2.qcow2,size=2 --location /softwarestorage/CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1511.iso --graphics none --extra-args='console tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 serial'
2554 [19:36:58] <Toba> but instead, use the debian jessie cd1 iso
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2558 [19:38:20] <ChmEarl> Toba, I gather that the Centos example works since the minimal ISO is self-contained, unlike a netboot ISO
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2560 [19:38:46] <Toba> I think it is a problem with virt-install expecting things to be at a given hard coded set of paths actually
2561 [19:38:59] <Toba> but I will try it and put up a pastebin of debug logs if I get stuck again
2562 [19:39:02] <Toba> thanks for your tips
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2585 [19:54:10] <sh00p> I have an encrypted / on an md array, am I safe to upgrade/dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie without problems you think?
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2588 [19:54:40] <sh00p> or are there things i need to consider, it's been a while since i set it up so i barely remember
2589 [19:54:51] <missmbob> sh00p: replaced-url
2590 [19:55:06] <missmbob> sh00p: there are some gotchas. like apache. read that document
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2593 [19:55:37] <missmbob> sh00p: in particular chapter 5
2594 [19:55:55] <sh00p> interesting
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2596 [19:56:08] <missmbob> sh00p: replaced-url
2597 [19:56:18] <sh00p> it mentions whirlpool luks
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2599 [19:56:28] <sh00p> i'm certain i set my encryption up through the installer however
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2603 [19:58:48] <mernilio> Hi all, what happened with debian-offtopic?
2604 [19:59:31] <missmbob> nothing. it's there
2605 [19:59:46] <mernilio> sure?
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2607 [19:59:55] <missmbob> i just went in to check
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2609 [20:00:57] <mernilio> No, im redirected to #arguments
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2612 [20:01:46] <mernilio> I dont even know that that channel is all about?
2613 [20:02:18] <missmbob> maybe you need a registered nick
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2615 [20:03:04] <BluesKaj> mernilio, in the server textbox type /j debian-offtopic
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2621 [20:04:34] <mernilio> BlueKaj: opic for arguments is “Welcome to arguments, where you basically have to have narrow perspectives, rigid (or nonexistent) patterns of thought, an almost utter lack of depth and an IQ that wouldn't rival that of a garden slug. It helps immensely to be truculent, blind, argumentative, tautological, circular and mindlessly repetitive.”
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2623 [20:04:50] <mernilio> That is what i see
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2627 [20:05:38] <BluesKaj> hmm, mernilio maybe you do need to register your nick
2628 [20:05:57] <BluesKaj> unless they've banned you
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2633 [20:06:27] <mernilio> Banned from an off-topic channel ... :-P
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2635 [20:06:45] <ddntd> i install i3wm, and want to use zhuyin in that env. however, login to i3wm noticing ibus is running but can't switch to zhuyin.
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2637 [20:07:04] <teraflops> BluesKaj: yeah he is banned there, I was wondering why I had him in my ignore list
2638 [20:07:05] <ddntd> the processes running background as shown at replaced-url
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2640 [20:07:28] <missmbob> mernilio: you were naughty
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2643 [20:07:54] <ddntd> adding env var also doesn't work as well - replaced-url
2644 [20:08:02] <ddntd> where to config to get it work?
2645 [20:08:03] <ddntd> thanks
2646 [20:08:05] <BluesKaj> teraflops, ok
2647 [20:08:13] <mernilio> Who the hell have me on theire ignore list? :-)
2648 [20:08:28] <teraflops> I do silly little person
2649 [20:09:23] <mernilio> Sure.. go a head! I dont know why tho.
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2651 [20:09:32] <no_gravity> Hello! If a program needs a temporary file to work on and accepts the path+name of the temp file it will create, is it possible to pass it a filename that is some sort of virtual file that only exists in memory and never gets written to disk?
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2655 [20:11:05] <Toba> ChmEarl: oh I remembered why I wanted to use netinst. These VMs that I'm building don't need a desktop environment installed, so I wanted to have a minimal "server" version
2656 [20:11:22] <Toba> ChmEarl: I guess I will try the others just to isolate if that is the problem
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2659 [20:12:08] <teraflops> Toba: vmdebootstrap is a thing too
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2662 [20:12:24] <teraflops> ,v vmdeboostrap
2663 [20:12:25] <judd> No package named 'vmdeboostrap' was found in amd64.
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2665 [20:12:33] <teraflops> typo
2666 [20:12:34] <mernilio> no_gravity in the unix world there is a concept of pipes. Im not sure if that will solve your problem, but you could check that out!
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2668 [20:12:44] <teraflops> ,v vmdebootstrap
2669 [20:12:45] <judd> Package: vmdebootstrap on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.5-2; jessie-backports: 1.4-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7-1; sid: 1.7-1
2670 [20:12:54] <Toba> neat
2671 [20:12:59] <Toba> I will read up on that.
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2674 [20:14:26] <mernilio> Here in the northern hemisphere it's daylight time tonight .. Summer is comming! :-)
2675 [20:15:12] <mernilio> And eventually i will compile the kernel
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2683 [20:18:09] <mernilio> I do support the gnu/linux community but to be honest .. i feel it's going slow. I left Java when Sun took it over and i still feel they dont give a shit about it.
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2690 [20:21:12] <mernilio> I also support our president Donald Trump in his effort to secure our country! A wall towards Mexico can be a good thing to fight narcotics into the US.
2691 [20:21:36] <mernilio> An
2692 [20:21:38] <missmbob> because you've been banned from #debian-offtopic doesnt mean you can rant in here
2693 [20:21:40] <mernilio> :-)
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2695 [20:22:25] <mernilio> I appology for that rant!
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2704 [20:26:18] <mernilio> I do appreciate you having me here! And i thank you! But my initial question was why debian-offtopic was down?
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2706 [20:27:47] <mernilio> well, nevermind.. please dont ban me her from debian. I need some kind of support.
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2709 [20:28:05] <Toba> god what an ass
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2711 [20:28:24] <missmbob> just add him to /ignore. i did
2712 [20:28:27] <Toba> done
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2736 [20:42:45] <dronepilot> hi
2737 [20:42:56] <dronepilot> do anyone of you own phantom 4?
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2740 [20:43:02] <dronepilot> (the drone)
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2745 [20:44:18] <SpeccyMan> nope, i build my own quadcopters
2746 [20:44:27] <sypher> How does this relate to Debian?
2747 [20:44:46] <missmbob> !chat
2748 [20:44:47] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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2753 [20:47:27] <prppedro> There will be the time I'll understand why forums.debian.net is so slow...
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2758 [20:48:02] <prppedro> For now, it remains only a mistery on my mind...
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2761 [20:48:43] <TomTomTo1> it's perfectly fine on my end.
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2763 [20:52:09] <prppedro> TomTomTo1, may be you're right... It replies faster through my VPS socks proxy than directly through my ISP...
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2765 [20:52:19] <prppedro> Strange...
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2767 [20:52:21] <psychicist__> hi, I have an HP Zbook Studio G3 and I have installed Debian Testing (stretch) on external USB drives (HDD and SSD) and it seems to work without problems from those (I am using it running off the SSD drive right now) but I am having problems when I install it to a secondary M.2 PCI-E SSD drive as the system hangs after a number of seconds
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2770 [20:53:10] <prppedro> psychicist__, I don't know... What dmesg tells?
2771 [20:53:20] <teraflops> prppedro: tracepath/traceroute from your vps and from your ISP and then compare
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2776 [20:54:18] <teraflops> prppedro: it can be dns resolution is too slow
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2778 [20:54:32] <shaker> hi
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2783 [20:55:16] <psychicist__> prppedro, I haven't looked at that yet but maybe I should try to install it once again and then read dmesg on that install from the outside. I do however find it strange as this seems to point at a problem with the installation on the internal PCI-E SSD
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2787 [20:56:50] <prppedro> teraflops: definitively not a resolution problem... But there's indeed a routing problem from my ISP network.
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2790 [20:57:15] <sky> I installed libepoxy-dev and its referencing a EGL/eglplatform.h which doesnt exist
2791 [20:57:28] <abrotman> dpkg: tell sky about apt-file
2792 [20:57:30] <prppedro> psychicist__, well, perhaps... I presume it isn't hotplugable, is it?
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2797 [20:58:03] <prppedro> psychicist__, nothing on /dev? It's like it didn't exist, at all?
2798 [20:58:21] <sky> abrotman: hows that suppose to help? I am llooking at file list in reo
2799 [20:58:23] <sky> err repo
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2801 [20:59:05] <missmbob> sky: apt-file would tell you that the file is in libegl1-mesa-dev
2802 [20:59:26] <abrotman> yeah ,that
2803 [20:59:38] * abrotman is mostly sane ..
2804 [20:59:43] <sky> ah
2805 [20:59:51] <sky> ok thanks, the box isnt online so I couldnt just grab it
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2808 [21:00:18] <abrotman> sky: how are you getting the packages you need?
2809 [21:00:42] <psychicist__> prppedro, I didn't notice anything particular, but it seems to be one of these newer problematic Skylake-based systems. I didn't get any graphics with jessie so I decided to install stretch so close to release. I will check again and report back later
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2814 [21:01:28] <sky> abrotman: getting the uris and downling em to diff machine
2815 [21:01:36] <sky> im trying to build a customized version of fbi
2816 [21:01:38] <psychicist__> prppedro, it is installed on /dev/nvme0n1, the naming is also a bit weird
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2818 [21:02:43] <abrotman> sky: IIRC, packages.debian.org may also have a file search .. we also have a bot that can help here
2819 [21:02:59] <sky> I was kinda taken by suprise it wasnt included
2820 [21:03:12] <sky> as part of a requirement of libepoxy
2821 [21:03:22] <prppedro> psychicist__, to be quite honest, I don't know Skylake very well... I still using an old Thinkpad X201
2822 [21:03:35] <abrotman> sky: there aren't a pile of -dev packages installed, most people don't need them
2823 [21:03:57] <prppedro> but I heard of several problems concerning Linux on Skylake...
2824 [21:04:08] <sky> abrotman: indeed. and I started with jessie-lite
2825 [21:04:15] <abrotman> that's not a thing
2826 [21:04:18] <prppedro> May be you should ask in the forum, to get more detailed answers...
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2833 [21:08:21] <psychicist__> prppedro, I would be glad to help out but I am currently very busy with university (that's why I need a stable Linux install) so I can't deal with kernel testing for the next few weeks at least. I will ask on the forums or consult the developers after doing some more research later on, it looks like a kernel problem in combination with the Intel chipset and PCI-E SSD
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2839 [21:14:53] <prppedro> psychicist__, well... I'm using Debian Stretch right now. But it's an older, well know system based on Intel Arrandale chip. Given your system is much newer but not, like, whoa, bleeding edge, I'd bet that Fedora might work better for you.
2840 [21:15:45] <prppedro> I have been experimenting with it. And for some situations it even looked more stable than Debian. But I couldn't stood the change, because there were several applications to export data from.
2841 [21:16:05] <psychicist__> prppedro, it might, I will check it out in a few days and see if that works any better
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2844 [21:16:40] <prppedro> psychicist__, right... And good luck with university. It's drawing my time too...
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2846 [21:16:43] <psychicist__> yesterday I spent almost half my day figuring out how to make things work
2847 [21:16:50] <psychicist__> prppedro, thanks, good luck you too
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2892 [21:46:59] <mernilio> Hi all, and forgive me for that former idiocy...
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2896 [21:48:32] <mernilio> For the record where is debian most prominent? In the US, Europe or in India?
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2899 [21:49:50] <mernilio> Im not sure if it matters?
2900 [21:50:46] <mernilio> Exept for the fatties in the US .. they seem to grow fatter every day we see them! :-)
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2905 [21:53:33] <prppedro> mernilio: hahahahahahaha... I'd say it's China, wouldn't be their love for Windows XP, IE 6 and Firewalls...
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2909 [21:55:10] <mernilio> prppedro: oki :-)
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2911 [21:56:52] <mernilio> prppedro: the problem with china is they dont pay microsoft the registration.
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2916 [21:58:08] <mernilio> The chines man is not trustworthy. Not at all .. he must hang his head in shame.
2917 [21:58:09] <prppedro> mernilio, you're thinking European... If 1 out of 90 Chinese pay license fees, Microsoft already got money for 2000 years...
2918 [21:58:13] <prppedro> Just kiddin'
2919 [21:58:27] <prppedro> But I'm pretty sure Debian is most common in US.
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2922 [21:58:58] <mernilio> Yes Debian is foremost in the US!
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2926 [22:00:26] <mernilio> prppedro: I know im thinging European .. sorry for that! I know the chines way is another way!
2927 [22:00:39] <prppedro> But if I compare operating systems to US fast food networks, I wouldn't be sure were to put Debian. Because it's pretty fat free for an US system.
2928 [22:00:48] <prppedro> Ubuntu is BurgerKing, for sure. hahahaha
2929 [22:00:49] <missmbob> please stay on topic
2930 [22:01:02] <prppedro> missmbob, sorry.
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2932 [22:02:37] <mernilio> I have the hanzu sword from a great sword master.
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2936 [22:03:22] <mernilio> Will you accept it for a cash transaction of 1 million dollars?
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2939 [22:04:18] <mernilio> Or give me the cash right away .. i dont like this japanese fuck things
2940 [22:04:39] <JPT> How is this related to debian?
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2944 [22:06:01] <AlexLikeRock> abrotman, mernilio say bad words
2945 [22:06:27] <mernilio> I like you guys .. och mr. prppedro you were talking to your close friend about a economical transaction. That would be most gracious your houn! It will be an deligt to come to see you in Japan.
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2950 [22:07:33] <mernilio> Why do you keep disturbing me when im in bussiness meetings? Shut the fuck up!
2951 [22:07:52] <mernilio> ;-)
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2955 [22:10:11] <mernilio> I think i've lost him. The problems with chinese contactacts ofer the internet is that you think they all milloanaires.. Most of them are frauds. Learn from the best Buddy!
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2957 [22:10:30] <missmbob> just /ignore the troll
2958 [22:10:41] <raktajino> can we not ban the troll lol
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2960 [22:11:27] <mernilio> Before you ban me...
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2962 [22:12:49] <ryouma> bot?
2963 [22:12:58] <mernilio> I was on youtube and saw he funeral of Jim Henson. The Creater of the Muppets. Someone said this world could be better with him alive now.. And i agree!.
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2965 [22:13:05] <mernilio> Hold on..
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2968 [22:14:57] <celyr> ryouma, just brain damaged I guess
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2970 [22:15:34] <raktajino> or, you know, just an asshole
2971 [22:15:42] <raktajino> does not require brain damage
2972 [22:16:04] <mernilio> Im not a bot.
2973 [22:16:12] <JPT> All of you say that
2974 [22:16:22] <mernilio> Maybe an asshole :-P
2975 [22:16:52] <celyr> raktajino, I will account your opinion but I'm going to stick with the brain damaged version
2976 [22:17:07] <dontknow> it is Hattori Hanzo sword. not hanzu
2977 [22:17:12] <mernilio> In fact, i wish i could be in debian-offtopic
2978 [22:17:19] <raktajino> but if you always attribute assholery to brain damage you will never hold assholes accountable for their assholery
2979 [22:17:22] <raktajino> it's a vicious cycle
2980 [22:17:25] <missmbob> dont feed and fill the channel with more crap. just /ignore
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2982 [22:17:52] <raktajino> missmbob: I feel like I've seen people kicked for asking offtopic questions, which is legit. Why can't this individual get a ban?
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2984 [22:18:00] <mernilio> The Hanzo sword is superior of all swords!
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2988 [22:18:54] <mernilio> And now we must have some suspense music here.. ta da.. :-)
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2990 [22:20:44] <mernilio> But in mu dojo you must go now. dontknow rakajino .. its time for you to go. Thank you.
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3004 [22:28:49] <teraflops> yeah #ban_mernilio
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3009 [22:32:30] <dontknow> why not troll when this place is empty
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3013 [22:33:06] <missmbob> it's offtopic and you'll get added to everyone's /ignore list and eventually banned
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3032 [22:41:14] <ryouma> what format is the fingerprint in findimagedupes in? is this a 256-bit quantity that is encoded in ... base64?
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3038 [22:44:56] <KNERD> Any means to save the settings for a multiscreen setup without have to redo it all over again on next boot?
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3045 [22:47:46] <abff> KNERD what did you have to change to get it working?
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3052 [22:49:04] <KNERD> abff: i have to unplug the monitor for a monent, then plug it back in, then rearrange the applications for each window
3053 [22:49:30] <KNERD> upon boot, it is duplicates scrreens
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3059 [22:52:22] <TomTomTo1> KNERD: presumably your DE should save it for you if you use its monitor settings utility. i don't use one, so i have a script that lightdm calls on startup referenced in lightdm.conf.
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3066 [22:54:28] <m3rg3r> Hello
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3071 [22:56:14] <wob_jonas> Hi, guys. I can't mount fat file systems on my debian system, error is from kernel "fat: Unknown symbol setattr_prepare". Internet search suggests that an "Uknown symbol" error usually means I have modules for the wrong version of the kernel,
3072 [22:56:35] <wob_jonas> but I'm running debian kernel called Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 and have the modules for that
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3075 [22:57:01] <wob_jonas> (which is lucky by the way: I boot the kernel from a fat file system, so it would be nontrivial to upgrade, but I could work that around if I had to.)
3076 [22:57:33] <wob_jonas> (This is debian 8.7 linux for x86_64 pc if that matters.)
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3078 [22:58:08] <wob_jonas> What am I doing wrong?
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3083 [23:00:12] <KNERD> TomTomTo1: it does notm and the ultliyt is very very basic
3084 [23:00:19] <KNERD> but I iwll look, thanks
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3100 [23:08:11] <f-a> hello, I am getting an error while using youtube-dl replaced-url
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3102 [23:08:33] <f-a> can I ask one of you on testing/unstable to check if the same error happens there too?
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3112 [23:10:30] <TomTomTo1> f-a: no, works fine with the version in sid. the ones in jessie and jessie-backports are old. you can easily backport yt-dl from sid source or get a recent version from github.
3113 [23:10:42] <TomTomTo1> !tell f-a about ssb
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3115 [23:11:03] <f-a> very well TomTomTo1 , I'll snatch the one on github
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3117 [23:11:39] <kzimmermann> f-a: I think youtube-dl is one of those packages for which it's better to download the source from github directly. They offer a -U option that allows you to update to the latest version everytime
3118 [23:12:09] <|DM|> so, how do I limit a programs cpu consumption ? My problem is one program that spikes to 350% (out of 400%, quadcore) usage every once in a while
3119 [23:12:15] <|DM|> and heavily slows down my system
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3121 [23:12:24] <|DM|> renicing to 20 doesnt work ;-;
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