Realtime Nick Name Ticker of #debian at freenode (ICQ IRC service)

0[00:00:07] *** Joins: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip)
1[00:00:35] *** Quits: miczac (~miczac@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2[00:00:58] <artificial> towo`: replaced-url
3[00:01:18] <towo`> artificial, have you used your brain?
4[00:01:39] <artificial> Friendly environment here
5[00:01:52] <towo`> there is no main debian repo in your sources
6[00:02:04] * unborn dpaste.com takes ages to load
7[00:02:41] <unborn> you got it wrong man
8[00:03:14] <artificial> I dont? "500 replaced-url
9[00:03:52] <towo`> there are no stretch/updates (yet) and replaced-url
10[00:03:54] *** Joins: miczac (~miczac@replaced-ip)
11[00:05:11] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
12[00:05:26] <unborn> artificial: please forgive me, do you know that stretch is frozen and its not stable as jessie - perhaps it is but its still not released? means if you dont know how to add the correct repo - which is on debian wiki pages - then you should stay on stable system eg jessie..?
13[00:05:36] <unborn> just asking
14[00:05:38] *** Quits: jas4711 (~jas4711@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
15[00:06:12] *** Quits: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
16[00:06:32] <unborn> ...or perhaps I am very wrong at this..
17[00:06:37] <artificial> unborn: I would use jessie, but my hardware is pretty recent and requires kernel 4.6+
18[00:06:50] <towo`> and bpo has kernel 4.9
19[00:07:09] <towo`> no need for going to stretch, even if you do it wrong
20[00:07:24] <unborn> artificial: aha.. I see.. it works on ubuntu but not on jessie, I mean debian current
21[00:08:44] *** Quits: th_ (~th@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
22[00:08:55] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
23[00:08:58] <artificial> Im just trying out Debian, thinking of switching from Gentoo. Wanted something more stable and was originally going to get jessie, but I noticed jessie uses 3.16. So forgive me if I am a bit uninformed in the debian terminology.
24[00:09:53] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
25[00:10:10] *** Joins: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip)
26[00:10:23] *** Quits: vOYtEC (vOYtEC@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
27[00:10:36] *** Quits: jhutchins (~jonathan@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
28[00:10:44] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
29[00:10:49] *** Quits: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
30[00:10:55] *** Joins: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip)
31[00:10:56] <epsilon> nothing wrong using backport kernel, many people do it for new hardware
32[00:11:05] *** Quits: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
33[00:11:24] *** Joins: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip)
34[00:11:36] <artificial> Is jessie recommended for a desktop? Or is it too stale?
35[00:11:43] *** Joins: linuxgoof (d83a1a65@replaced-ip)
36[00:11:52] <linuxgoof> i rebooted that solved the issue
37[00:11:53] <epsilon> absolutly recommended
38[00:12:16] <linuxgoof> apparently udev required the features of the new kernel to install
39[00:12:22] <unborn> artificial: i was using gentoo from 2007 to 2009 :) it was well stable but well annoying.. everything manually done.. not even eth was working without editing configs.. got fed up with it and leave it.. you are more then welcome to do latest unstable tests.. here is wiki page replaced-url
40[00:12:23] <epsilon> nothing wrong with it, yet some stuff may be outdated if you come from bleeding edge linux
41[00:12:48] *** Joins: Niantl1 (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
42[00:12:54] *** Quits: Nik05 (~Nik05@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
43[00:12:58] *** Quits: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
44[00:13:24] <Shadow_7_> I installed gentoo over dialup in 2004
45[00:13:34] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
46[00:13:52] <unborn> Shadow_7_: I was too young that time to understand the computers.. :)
47[00:14:04] <epsilon> .oO once it has finished, you had LTE
48[00:14:46] * unborn and I still sometimes dont understand them..
49[00:15:12] *** Joins: CmndrSp0ck (~fabian@replaced-ip)
50[00:15:29] *** Joins: Nik05 (~Nik05@replaced-ip)
51[00:15:38] *** Quits: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
52[00:16:18] *** Quits: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip) (Quit: cyborg-one)
53[00:16:22] *** Quits: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
54[00:16:56] *** Parts: dawiba (~dawiba@replaced-ip)
55[00:17:47] <unborn> epsilon: great point :)
56[00:18:21] *** Quits: fax (~fax@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
57[00:18:40] *** Quits: juantelez (~juantelez@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
58[00:19:16] *** Joins: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip)
59[00:19:37] *** Joins: Devastator (~devas@replaced-ip)
60[00:19:42] *** Quits: Devastator (~devas@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
61[00:19:42] *** Joins: Devastator (~devas@replaced-ip)
62[00:19:43] *** Joins: jas4711 (~jas4711@replaced-ip)
63[00:19:45] *** Joins: mendi (5c52790f@replaced-ip)
64[00:19:50] <mendi> does debian gui installer automatically format?
65[00:20:13] *** Quits: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
66[00:20:54] <Nik05> mendi what do you mean with automatiicaly?
67[00:21:17] <Nik05> the ui and gui have the same option, the latter only looks "better"
68[00:21:33] <mendi> I know they both use gparted but
69[00:21:37] *** Quits: andril (~andril@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
70[00:21:53] <mendi> does it remove all files or leave left overs if you don't manually format?
71[00:22:02] *** Quits: ledufakademy (~ledufakad@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
72[00:22:02] <unborn> live patch - wold that be in next release ? - anyone knows?
73[00:22:35] <mendi> I always formatted the partitions myself to be sure Nik05 xD
74[00:22:38] <Nik05> mendi it will probably remove everything if you choose to put it automatically on a drive
75[00:22:40] *** Quits: knoxville (knox@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
76[00:22:51] *** Joins: Blitzgewitter- (~dude@replaced-ip)
77[00:23:01] <Nik05> but that is the same for the other installers, not specific to the gui installer
78[00:23:36] *** Joins: aaro (~aaro@replaced-ip)
79[00:23:39] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
80[00:23:55] *** Joins: Konstantine (~Konstanti@replaced-ip)
81[00:24:21] <Nik05> but i think you can let it create partitions automatically on free space mendi
82[00:24:26] *** Quits: satbyy (satbyy@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
83[00:24:40] <unborn> ah it will be :)
84[00:25:17] <Blitzgewitter-> i wonder if something changed regarding wireshark. i used to be able to decode any tcp stream as "SSL". Now that option is just missing, the list of protocols goes from SSH to STANAG. my kali vm and my friends ubuntu still have it. does anyone have an idea?
85[00:25:32] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
86[00:25:34] *** Quits: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
87[00:25:34] *** Joins: satbyy (satbyy@replaced-ip)
88[00:25:38] <Blitzgewitter-> i'm on debian testing btw
89[00:25:56] <petemc> Blitzgewitter-: works for me, does it not go green when you type ssl ?
90[00:26:12] *** Parts: anuxivm (~anuxi@replaced-ip)
91[00:26:26] <Blitzgewitter-> petemc: that's not what i mean. rightclick on a tcp packet -> decode as -> set current to SSL
92[00:26:34] <petemc> h
93[00:26:35] <unborn> Blitzgewitter-: ssl is too board, what set you looking at?
94[00:26:38] *** Quits: Konstantine (~Konstanti@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
95[00:26:48] *** Quits: jas4711 (~jas4711@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
96[00:26:59] <Nik05> Blitzgewitter- since what version do you have this?
97[00:27:20] <unborn> i mean ciphers
98[00:27:25] *** Joins: ineiros (ineiros@replaced-ip)
99[00:27:28] <Blitzgewitter-> Nik05: can't say for sure. wireshark is now v2.2.4
100[00:27:32] <Blitzgewitter-> i think it worked a few months ago
101[00:27:45] <Blitzgewitter-> unborn: i don't understand the question
102[00:27:58] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
103[00:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1662
104[00:28:08] <unborn> Blitzgewitter-: ah I see.. well then.
105[00:29:01] <Nik05> Blitzgewitter- after septembre?
106[00:29:29] <Nik05> then 2.2.0 came out on debian
107[00:29:46] *** Quits: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
108[00:29:50] <Blitzgewitter-> Nik05: actually, i believe it worked ~3 weeks ago. i don't use this feature very often, sorry
109[00:30:04] <Nik05> oh wait that is on unstable, not sure what the version in testing was
110[00:30:21] *** Quits: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
111[00:30:29] *** Quits: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip) (Quit: "You picked the wrong kite to run away with!")
112[00:30:51] <artificial> epsilon: If I install the bpo kernel do I need to remove the official one?
113[00:30:55] <Blitzgewitter-> i mean, what would be the reason for it? you think it may be a bug?
114[00:31:03] <Nik05> Blitzgewitter- 3 weeks ago 2.2.3 was in testing
115[00:31:22] *** Quits: TsukiRa (~fpob@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
116[00:31:44] <Blitzgewitter-> so maybe something happened from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4
117[00:32:03] <unborn> :)
118[00:32:08] *** Quits: MadHezz (MadHezz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
119[00:32:23] <Blitzgewitter-> i can't roll it back on debian, can i?
120[00:32:36] *** Quits: gomoran_ (~gomoran@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
121[00:33:08] *** Quits: RickXy (~zncadmin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
122[00:33:10] *** Joins: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip)
123[00:33:21] <Nik05> only bug fixes Blitzgewitter-
124[00:33:28] <Blitzgewitter-> hm
125[00:33:33] *** Joins: jas4711 (~jas4711@replaced-ip)
126[00:33:44] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
127[00:33:47] <epsilon> artificial: it's done automated (and IIRC you have even 2 kernel to select in grub)
128[00:35:21] *** Joins: Verity (~Verity@replaced-ip)
129[00:35:37] <awal1> mendi, any free space (x partition, entire disk...) you decide to use will be formated completely, except an existing linux swap, if not told to do
130[00:36:44] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
131[00:36:45] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
132[00:36:58] <Verity> checking Python's configuration directory... (cached)
133[00:36:58] <Verity> can't find it!
134[00:36:58] <Verity> configure: error: could not configure python
135[00:37:09] <Verity> trying to install VIM 7.4 on debian, what is going on?
136[00:37:44] <unborn> Verity: and whats your question actually?
137[00:37:44] <Verity> its already such an annoying waste of time just getting it running its proving to me there is no reason to swtich
138[00:38:07] * Verity begins to urinate onto unborn
139[00:38:23] *** Quits: tofutoon (~bigbear@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
140[00:38:29] *** Joins: RickXy (~zncadmin@replaced-ip)
141[00:38:34] *** Joins: tofutoon (~bigbear@replaced-ip)
142[00:38:48] <unborn> Verity: plonk - good luck with your rubbish
143[00:38:58] * unborn enjoys it
144[00:39:05] <awal1> artificial, no
145[00:39:06] <stoned> dude.
146[00:39:39] *** Joins: jesuscmf (~jesuscmf@replaced-ip)
147[00:39:40] *** Joins: ssw3st (~ssw3st@replaced-ip)
148[00:40:02] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip)
149[00:40:14] <awal1> btw, bpo also are official
150[00:40:15] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip)
151[00:41:06] *** Quits: artificial (4ca75e9d@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
152[00:41:43] *** Quits: pos (~pos@replaced-ip) (Quit: pos)
153[00:42:47] *** Joins: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip)
154[00:43:21] <piklu> Hi
155[00:43:35] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
156[00:43:37] <piklu> any brave soul here to help debug my tightvnc with gnome, its not working, shows up a gray screen
157[00:43:45] *** Joins: Countess_Bathory (~Tess@replaced-ip)
158[00:43:51] <Verity> piklu, what does the job pay
159[00:43:59] <piklu> Verity : respect mostly
160[00:44:22] *** Joins: stare (~stare@replaced-ip)
161[00:44:57] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip)
162[00:44:58] <jrtc27> ,v vim
163[00:45:00] <judd> Package: vim on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:7.3.547-7; wheezy-security: 2:7.3.547-7+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2:7.4.488-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; sid: 2:8.0.0197-2; stretch: 2:8.0.0197-2
164[00:45:06] *** Joins: Seto_Kaiba (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip)
165[00:45:11] *** Quits: stare (~stare@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
166[00:45:14] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip)
167[00:45:22] *** Quits: vivid (~vivid@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
168[00:45:35] <Verity> its 7.3 on my distro for some reason
169[00:45:53] <Verity> this is useless
170[00:46:02] <jrtc27> either you're running wheezy, or not Debian at all
171[00:46:09] <Verity> probably on wheezy, yes
172[00:46:15] <themill> 'probably'
173[00:46:27] <jrtc27> cat /etc/debian_version
174[00:46:39] <Verity> 7.8
175[00:46:47] <jrtc27> that's wheezy
176[00:46:47] <jrtc27> update
177[00:46:54] <Verity> I can't
178[00:46:55] <themill> Perhaps it is time to upgrade to a supported release.
179[00:46:56] <Verity> it broke the vps last timer
180[00:47:00] <Verity> and they said dont do that
181[00:47:16] <jrtc27> wheezy is ancient
182[00:47:22] <themill> Find someone more clueful to give your money
183[00:47:30] *** Joins: vivid (~vivid@replaced-ip)
184[00:47:34] *** Quits: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
185[00:48:11] <jrtc27> or you can install the version from wheezy-backports, but I would still advise upgrading to jessie
186[00:48:14] *** Quits: somazero (~somazero@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
187[00:48:30] *** Joins: OS-27720 (~OS-27720@replaced-ip)
188[00:49:05] <linuxgoof> does anyone here know if resilio sync can be installed on powerpc architecture?
189[00:49:23] <linuxgoof> resilio sync = the newer bittorrent sync
190[00:49:24] *** Quits: brokencycle (~brokencyc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
191[00:50:17] *** Joins: derstrom (~derstrom@replaced-ip)
192[00:50:58] <jrtc27> curl -L 'replaced-url
193[00:51:08] <jrtc27> only i386, amd64, armel, armhf
194[00:51:16] <linuxgoof> hmph
195[00:51:24] <Verity> so I just do
196[00:51:26] <linuxgoof> weird i could've sworn it used to be supported
197[00:51:29] <Verity> apt-get dist-upgrade
198[00:51:36] <Verity> and hope it doesnt destroy everything like last time?
199[00:51:42] <linuxgoof> ah yes it seems ppc was dropped
200[00:51:55] <linuxgoof> well i found the latest release for it: replaced-url
201[00:52:00] <jrtc27> they're idiots for not including the debian version codename in the suite though
202[00:52:28] *** Quits: fassl (~fassl@replaced-ip) (Quit: fassl)
203[00:52:33] *** Joins: andril (~andril@replaced-ip)
204[00:52:53] <Verity> jrtc27,
205[00:52:54] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip) ()
206[00:52:59] <jrtc27> !jessie
207[00:52:59] <dpkg> Jessie is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25: replaced-url
208[00:53:07] <jrtc27> !release notes
209[00:53:07] <dpkg> Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at replaced-url
210[00:53:14] <jrtc27> !wheezy->jessie
211[00:53:28] <Verity> maybe I should justg fiund another host
212[00:53:33] <Verity> this is cutting into my productivity
213[00:53:36] <Verity> SEVERELY
214[00:54:04] *** Joins: dc123 (5c52790f@replaced-ip)
215[00:54:23] <dc123> hi guys what happens if i don't install DesktopEnvironment but i do install xfce?
216[00:54:46] *** Joins: tadej (~universe@replaced-ip)
217[00:54:47] *** Quits: Pr0metheus (~nezos@replaced-ip) (Quit: Pr0metheus)
218[00:55:24] *** Quits: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
219[00:55:49] *** Quits: the0loko (~The_Loko@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
220[00:56:13] *** Joins: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip)
221[00:56:39] <Verity> ok
222[00:56:44] <Verity> those fools put 7 on there
223[00:56:46] *** Quits: OS-27720 (~OS-27720@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
224[00:56:48] <Verity> They've been spoken to
225[00:56:51] <Verity> installing 8 now
226[00:57:26] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
227[01:00:22] *** Quits: ramshorns (~ramshorns@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
228[01:00:34] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
229[01:01:54] *** Quits: Verity (~Verity@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
230[01:02:18] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
231[01:02:18] *** Quits: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
232[01:04:22] *** Quits: crash_n (~crash@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
233[01:04:26] *** Joins: crash__n (~crash@replaced-ip)
234[01:04:28] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip)
235[01:04:35] *** Quits: jesuscmf (~jesuscmf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
236[01:04:55] *** Joins: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip)
237[01:05:11] *** Joins: sorin-mihai (~sorin-mih@replaced-ip)
238[01:05:46] *** Quits: control (~control@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
239[01:05:58] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip)
240[01:06:22] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
241[01:06:39] *** Joins: tikun (~David@replaced-ip)
242[01:07:08] <unborn> dc123: if you dont install any DE you will be left with glory of really really snappy os and gawjust tty. if you do install xfce then you have DE installed.
243[01:07:29] *** Quits: SPF|Cloud (uid11755@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
244[01:08:25] *** Joins: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip)
245[01:08:26] <stoned> dc123: you can list the pckages in each task
246[01:08:27] *** Joins: shawn1 (1810f0db@replaced-ip)
247[01:08:35] <stoned> dc123: read the man page for tasksel
248[01:08:47] <piklu> Any vnc experts here?
249[01:09:16] <unborn> piklu: what about it? just shoot your question out
250[01:09:18] <stoned> piklu: are you able to connect your machines together otherwise? Does it make a connection?
251[01:09:22] <dc123> its funny cause i didnt install man @stoned xD
252[01:09:43] *** Quits: andril (~andril@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
253[01:09:45] <stoned> dc123: mandb is installed by the base system, iirc. (you can probably skip that during expert install)
254[01:09:52] <dc123> yeah
255[01:09:55] <stoned> or maybe man-db is part of another task, I don't recall
256[01:09:59] <dc123> its in system utilities
257[01:10:03] <stoned> i see
258[01:10:15] <piklu> stoned : I am able to connect machines. authentication is accepted if password is right and rejected otherwise. I see a gray screen. I am recieving an error in log saying - xstartup not found, however file is accessible. I am running it as root, I understand it is an issue, I will make a separate user later for vnc
259[01:10:19] *** Joins: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip)
260[01:10:31] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
261[01:10:41] <shawn1> Man, there are so many videos on youtube claiming to review Debian Stretch RC1... I keep telling them it's just the installer that's RC1, why is English comprehension so hard for some ? Debian.Net and the readme state this so clearly
262[01:11:08] <shawn1> Er Debian.org
263[01:11:10] *** Joins: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip)
264[01:11:22] *** Quits: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
265[01:11:33] <unborn> piklu: why vnc for linux to linux? you can use ssh for it.. or no go?
266[01:11:36] <stoned> pkiller: do you have an xstartup file?
267[01:11:51] <piklu> stoned : absolutely, in the same location.
268[01:11:52] <unborn> I do use vnc to windows machines...but that is like different story
269[01:12:02] <piklu> unborn : mac to linux
270[01:12:09] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip)
271[01:12:14] <stoned> the machine you are connecting to, does it have X alreayd running or not?
272[01:12:15] <piklu> unborn : Want to use mostly like remote desktop
273[01:12:36] <piklu> stoned : it is a gnome environment.
274[01:12:39] <unborn> piklu: yeah - ssh should work for you.
275[01:12:42] <stoned> pkiller: XDMCP as well a ssh -X and import a desktop
276[01:12:50] <stoned> !xdmcp
277[01:12:50] <dpkg> The X Display Manager Control Protocol (XDMCP) provides a uniform mechanism for an autonomous display (e.g. X terminal) to request login service from a remote host. replaced-url
278[01:13:02] *** Joins: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip)
279[01:13:05] <piklu> stoned : it seems a new thing ?
280[01:13:09] <stoned> Very old.
281[01:13:15] <stoned> But the thing w/ VNC. let's figure that out
282[01:13:26] <stoned> What are the contents of your xstart up, pastebin it
283[01:13:46] <unborn> ah like gui?forward x should worked for you.. however that would be only on your machine.. happening.. not on users one
284[01:14:28] *** Quits: tikun (~David@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
285[01:14:42] <piklu> stoned : replaced-url
286[01:14:53] <unborn> ffs for root operation you dont need to use gui.. for user interaction use something less complicated like funny closed software teamviewer - if you dont like ssh..
287[01:15:28] <piklu> stoned : ssh -X is not an option in mac ssh
288[01:15:40] <stoned> That's goofy.
289[01:15:55] <stoned> piklu: try as user, not root, then we'll see.
290[01:16:18] <piklu> stoned : you want me to switch vnc to a non root user and make the xstartup again?
291[01:16:28] <stoned> piklu: ls /root/.vnc/xstartup
292[01:16:30] <stoned> what it says?
293[01:16:51] <stoned> I bet you're having a startup file in user, and launching as root, and no file found, b/c root scusk.
294[01:16:52] <piklu> stoned : /root/.vnc/xstartup
295[01:16:54] <stoned> sucks*
296[01:17:13] <piklu> stoned : it is there
297[01:17:15] <stoned> thata's bizzare.
298[01:17:22] <piklu> stoned : exactly.
299[01:17:23] <stoned> you can edit it and sh says not found.
300[01:17:25] *** Joins: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip)
301[01:17:28] <stoned> hmm.
302[01:17:28] <piklu> stoned : yupp
303[01:17:35] *** Joins: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip)
304[01:17:35] <stoned> Is this debian?
305[01:17:41] <piklu> stoned : jessie
306[01:17:44] <stoned> ok
307[01:17:51] *** Quits: 18VAAPU2T (~pi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
308[01:17:57] *** Quits: pi__ (~pi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
309[01:18:02] <stoned> piklu: does it work for user?
310[01:18:13] <unborn> piklu: are those machines on same network or?
311[01:18:27] *** Joins: pi__ (~pi@replaced-ip)
312[01:18:42] <piklu> unborn : No. but they can connect pretty well, no issue in networking, since it logins and shows up a gray screen
313[01:18:52] <piklu> stoned : I will have to make a user and check
314[01:19:04] <unborn> sure piklu - what ports are you using for connection? or vpn?
315[01:19:10] <piklu> stoned : is XDMCP better than VNC
316[01:19:17] <piklu> unborn : 5901
317[01:19:18] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
318[01:19:21] <unborn> and?
319[01:19:27] <piklu> no vpn
320[01:19:31] <piklu> direct connection
321[01:20:35] <stoned> piklu: piklu target machien (one w/ vnc server) needs to have the xstartup file, it's on there right? and not on your client?
322[01:20:48] <piklu> stoned : absolutely on server :)
323[01:20:59] <piklu> piklu : both commands I pasted were on server
324[01:21:02] *** Quits: shawn1 (1810f0db@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
325[01:21:09] <piklu> stoned : and I run them using same root user.
326[01:21:17] <unborn> hm piklu and display number? since you connecting to linux
327[01:21:18] <piklu> piklu - client is a mac
328[01:21:20] <stoned> piklu: what are the permission son xstartup file
329[01:21:26] <stoned> piklu: ls -l
330[01:21:34] <unborn> like :0 or something
331[01:22:13] *** Joins: eternal-pain (~eternal-p@replaced-ip)
332[01:22:19] *** Quits: danielitit_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
333[01:22:34] *** Quits: aaro (~aaro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
334[01:23:02] <piklu> -rwxr-xr-x
335[01:23:47] *** Joins: Gnu77 (~Gnu77@replaced-ip)
336[01:24:11] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
337[01:24:36] *** Quits: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip) (Quit: 'Goodbye')
338[01:24:44] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
339[01:25:06] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
340[01:25:21] <piklu> stoned : How should I check if x11 is running properly
341[01:26:16] <unborn> perhaps its my karma.. I dont know
342[01:26:37] <unborn> piklu: try to tell your vnc to connect to specified screen
343[01:26:54] <piklu> unborn : you have to guide me
344[01:26:55] <unborn> I think you got connected correctly
345[01:27:19] <unborn> uhm
346[01:27:24] <unborn> sure I google it for you
347[01:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1655
348[01:28:03] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
349[01:28:21] <unborn> here piklu replaced-url
350[01:28:33] <mendi> ,package php
351[01:28:35] <mendi> ,php
352[01:28:38] <mendi> !php
353[01:28:38] <dpkg> PHP is a scripting language. To install, ask me about <install php>. See also <php wants me to download still>, <php mysql>, <php userdir>, <phpmyadmin>, <php gd>, <pear>, <pecl>, <suhosin>, <xampp>. replaced-url
354[01:28:43] *** Joins: stoilkov_ (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
355[01:29:04] <mendi> which repo has php5 latest xD
356[01:29:15] <stoned> debian stable
357[01:29:16] *** Quits: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
358[01:29:23] <stoned> mainline repository
359[01:29:24] <piklu> stoned : the only port open is 5901
360[01:29:31] <unborn> mendi: you should try this in terminal apt-cache search --names-only ^* php5-
361[01:29:34] *** Quits: akash_ (uid150251@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
362[01:29:37] <stoned> Oh sorry, I went to go do somethign and I forgot what is happening
363[01:29:42] *** Quits: stoilkov_ (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
364[01:30:03] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
365[01:30:05] *** Joins: stoilkov_ (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
366[01:30:05] <stoned> ,v php5-cli
367[01:30:06] <judd> Package: php5-cli on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u7; jessie: 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
368[01:30:15] *** Quits: ByteStorm (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
369[01:30:24] *** Quits: stoilkov_ (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
370[01:30:42] <piklu> stoned : I Tried x11 too.
371[01:30:44] <piklu> echo $DISPLAY is empty
372[01:30:51] *** Quits: cryptic (~cryptic@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
373[01:30:58] <stoned> piklu: that could be an isue. Try connection to DISPLAY=0
374[01:31:04] <stoned> export $DISPLAY=0 on debian
375[01:31:19] <stoned> export DISPLAY=0 on debian
376[01:31:32] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip)
377[01:31:43] <piklu> stoned : export: `0=0': not a valid identifier
378[01:31:52] *** Quits: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
379[01:32:03] <piklu> stoned : cannot open displayE852: The child process failed to start the GUI
380[01:32:37] <CeBe> isn't that :0 instead of 0?
381[01:32:41] <mendi> ^
382[01:32:46] <CeBe> export DISPLAY=:0
383[01:32:54] <stoned> ):)
384[01:32:56] <stoned> 0:0
385[01:32:57] <mendi> /etc/apt-get/sources.list is empty in debian 9 ? where did it move :(
386[01:33:10] <stoned> \o/
387[01:33:13] <unborn> mendi: the stable debian does have latest stable php5.. from that command I gave you you can select packages you want to install.. no need to install everything.. just cherrypick what you need
388[01:33:22] *** Quits: afx_ (~afx_@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
389[01:33:22] <CeBe> mendi: what is in /etc/apt-get/sources.list.d ?
390[01:33:34] <mendi> unborn not on debian 9 :s
391[01:33:39] <stoned> CeBe: main sources.list is alwyas in /apt/sources/
392[01:33:40] <CeBe> oh wait, that is /etc/apt/sources.list
393[01:33:47] <unborn> stoned: I pointed this earlier, but refused to spoon feeding.. well wasted time btw
394[01:33:52] <mendi> empty aswell cebe
395[01:33:53] <mendi> oh
396[01:34:10] <stoned> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
397[01:34:11] <unborn> mendi: ah you are on testing... ? well... check wikis..
398[01:34:14] <stoned> !sources.list
399[01:34:14] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
400[01:34:29] <mendi> thanks unborn stoned
401[01:34:59] *** Joins: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip)
402[01:35:11] <piklu> stoned : export DISPLAY=:0
403[01:35:13] <piklu> same issue
404[01:35:25] <piklu> CeBe : same issue, unborn
405[01:35:28] *** Quits: APexil (~you@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
406[01:35:42] <stoned> piklu: you have an Xserver on os x?
407[01:35:50] *** Quits: Cassiopaya (~Discovery@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
408[01:36:04] <piklu> piklu : the xserver is supposed to be on server debian or client os x?
409[01:36:12] <stoned> If you have an x server on your os x machine ( i dunno os x) you can use ssh -X
410[01:36:15] *** Quits: nprs (uid54228@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
411[01:36:23] <stoned> piklu: xserver on vnc machine(debian)
412[01:36:24] <unborn> mendi: sorry I use only stable thingy for server.. I understand you may have run this on desktop or something.. perhaps php7? I think stretch have that included.. have look into that instead of php5
413[01:36:46] <CeBe> ,v php7.0
414[01:36:47] <judd> Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.15-1; sid: 7.0.16-3
415[01:36:47] <mendi> yeah stretch has php7
416[01:36:54] <unborn> yap
417[01:36:56] <stoned> unborn: if it's a gray screen, then it mean maybe nothing is loading.
418[01:36:57] <piklu> stoned : you mean I need a x server on os x to connect to a debian server through ssh -x ?
419[01:37:01] <CeBe> ,v php7.1
420[01:37:02] <judd> Package: php7.1 on amd64 -- sid: 7.1.0-5; sid: 7.1.1-1
421[01:37:19] <stoned> piklu: yes. for vnc, no.
422[01:37:32] <piklu> stoned : for ssh -X - yes ?
423[01:37:48] *** Quits: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye. :))
424[01:38:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1647
425[01:38:09] <stoned> piklu: vnc works two ways, 1) connect to an already running display, or 2) start a display (mosty on headless machines) and connect there
426[01:38:33] *** Quits: DeaDSouL_ (uid134377@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
427[01:38:35] <piklu> stoned : Okay than
428[01:38:44] <mendi> !sources.list is wrong tho
429[01:38:44] <dpkg> ...but sources.list is already something else...
430[01:38:44] <stoned> piklu: you need a LOCAL xserver running in order to launch xclients on remote machines (using ssh -X on local machine, with local xserver, you can view remote x apps)
431[01:38:59] <mendi> it's apt-get update not aptitude update xD
432[01:39:13] <stoned> piklu: does your debian machine run an Xserver? Or a desktop?
433[01:39:30] <piklu> stoned : First - mac os is client, debian is server
434[01:39:42] <stoned> piklu: what is your vnc doing? starting another X server session for itself, or using one already runnig ?
435[01:39:43] <unborn> stoned: yeah.. could mean he does not connect to correct screen or his ports are not opened correctly.. I would perhaps sounds idiotically but for newbie I would let him open port in both ways also I am not sure right now but I think he should have more then one port open - here is 0.38 am.. keep this in mind.. also it could be one another thing. when you install whatever vnc on your linux machine you must install that lightway gui - xcfe? without it,
436[01:39:44] <unborn> he would not load anything.
437[01:40:02] <stoned> it's not a port issue.
438[01:40:23] <piklu> stoned : replaced-url
439[01:40:24] *** Joins: hanshenrik_ (~hanshenri@replaced-ip)
440[01:40:29] <stoned> gray screen probably means a launched connected X session, just no xstart up was launched.
441[01:40:32] <stoned> so nothing.
442[01:40:33] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
443[01:40:43] <stoned> you can still probably run xterm on it and make it conenct to the already running display
444[01:41:03] <unborn> stoned: been while since I used vnc for linux, ssh or vpn was worked for me.. perhaps it would be much easier to suggest the user to use proprietary software like teamviewer quick support, unless user is seeking making something out of it..
445[01:41:14] <stoned> \o/
446[01:41:30] *** Joins: OS-27711 (~OS-27711@replaced-ip)
447[01:41:30] *** Joins: cryptic (~cryptic@replaced-ip)
448[01:41:43] <stoned> xsetroot -solid grey
449[01:41:45] <stoned> see
450[01:41:51] <stoned> it connects, it launches something, makes it grey
451[01:41:53] <stoned> it's running
452[01:42:08] <stoned> not a port issue.
453[01:42:14] <stoned> just that xserver is empty
454[01:42:22] <stoned> no apps or clients are connected to it when vnc launches
455[01:42:36] *** Quits: d-sha (~d-sha@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
456[01:42:46] <stoned> up to xsetroot =solid gry it works (since you reprted it is a gray window)
457[01:42:53] <stoned> x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
458[01:42:55] <unborn> stoned possibly he installed without de specified for vnc
459[01:42:58] <stoned> this doesnt seem to work
460[01:43:08] <stoned> comment this out, and change to xterm.
461[01:43:14] <stoned> also, isntall xbase-clients on your debian machine
462[01:43:27] <piklu> stoned ?
463[01:43:51] *** Quits: hanshenrik__ (~hanshenri@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
464[01:44:04] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip)
465[01:44:17] <piklu> stoned: you want me to comment that line and say startx?
466[01:44:24] <stoned> piklu: does the debian machine have xorg installed?
467[01:44:34] <stoned> full xorg packages, not minimal xsever-xorg-core or something
468[01:44:36] <piklu> piklu : yes it does now
469[01:44:45] <unborn> now :D
470[01:44:47] <unborn> lols
471[01:44:53] <stoned> unborn: not helping. stop.
472[01:45:08] *** Joins: jonh19 (~androirc@replaced-ip)
473[01:45:22] <unborn> stoned: sure. sorry.. ssh is my answer unless you tell him step by step. enjoy
474[01:45:35] <stoned> either the grey backround is default, or it's using the file to set it using xsetroot, however, it's running xserver it seems and ocnnecting
475[01:45:43] <stoned> noting show sup, no apps or anythign, not even gnome-session
476[01:45:50] <stoned> that it means the file is n't causing the destop to be gray
477[01:45:57] <stoned> it's default gry desktop in Xorg afaik.
478[01:46:00] *** Quits: cryptic (~cryptic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
479[01:46:01] <tofutoon> Can someone suggest a server/client combination that supports chat, audio calls, and screensharing that works on Linux, Mac, and Windows?
480[01:46:02] <stoned> so this file isn't taken effect
481[01:46:06] <stoned> I would run as user, not root
482[01:46:12] <stoned> come back when you run as user
483[01:46:18] <stoned> and stop running things as root
484[01:46:36] <stoned> also, i'm tired. Bye now.
485[01:47:35] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: jackNemrod)
486[01:47:47] *** Parts: jonh19 (~androirc@replaced-ip)
487[01:47:50] *** Quits: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
488[01:48:10] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
489[01:48:36] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
490[01:48:52] *** Quits: OS-27711 (~OS-27711@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
491[01:48:52] <piklu> stoned : :)
492[01:48:53] <piklu> sure.
493[01:49:30] <unborn> tofutoon: there was something long time ago like screenconnect but that was sold and went well expensive.. only google chrome non free software can give you this or skype.. I mean google is your friend
494[01:50:03] <stoned> piklu: sorry. I got tired. I don't know vnc enough. Perhaps another could assist.
495[01:50:07] <unborn> or realvnc but that is also non free software
496[01:50:20] <stoned> Once I get my second machine up, I'll use vnc and set you know.
497[01:50:23] <piklu> stoned : I am extremely thankful for whatever help I got
498[01:50:33] <stoned> I got a free computer, 2gb, windows xp, not bad, gonna debian it up.
499[01:50:38] <unborn> or teamviewer but also non free.. I mean google it
500[01:51:05] *** tucks_ is now known as tucks
501[01:51:13] *** Joins: APexil (~you@replaced-ip)
502[01:52:08] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
503[01:52:51] *** Joins: SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@replaced-ip)
504[01:53:02] <piklu> unborn : I have used teamviewer, I don't think so using with linux is a great idea
505[01:53:18] *** Quits: hanshenrik_ (~hanshenri@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
506[01:53:28] <stoned> replaced-url
507[01:53:36] <stoned> Get an X server for your Mac.
508[01:53:39] <stoned> Run it.
509[01:53:45] <stoned> Then ssh -X to debian.
510[01:53:45] <piklu> stoned : Exactly installing this right now
511[01:54:30] <unborn> piklu: well I am using it all the times since some users does not like idea to install anything.. personally I do not have package installed on my system.. its jut in browser - google extention or whatever you call it.. however for linux, I would not advice you to use full install.. just use quick support
512[01:54:43] *** Joins: artificial (4ca75e9d@replaced-ip)
513[01:54:53] <linuxgoof> can anyone tell me how to undo this command i used when trying to fix an earlier problem? trying to get things back to the way they were
514[01:54:54] <unborn> piklu: if you want to do real work on linux desktop/server just use ssh.. safest and best way
515[01:54:54] <linuxgoof> dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/initctl
516[01:54:59] <stoned> I woudld not recommend any non-free software unless absolutely needed and last resort.
517[01:55:05] <unborn> *and fastest
518[01:55:06] <piklu> unborn : I think it will still mess up, I believe we have a generic session mess up here, teamviewer will have to start a GUI too
519[01:55:11] <stoned> This is #debian. DFSG, free software.
520[01:55:21] <piklu> unborn : I do use ssh. mostly.
521[01:55:27] <stoned> The spirit of freedom. Let's try to recommend prop. apps as least as possible.
522[01:55:51] <piklu> unborn : However i want to have a server running everything, so I can come back and use it as a remote desktop to continue work
523[01:56:15] <unborn> so whats the issue? piklu I would be honest with you.. I used vnc on linux last time in 2009, it was called wino or what it was.. perhaps its still in debian..
524[01:56:23] *** Joins: fishsticks (~JP@replaced-ip)
525[01:56:32] <tofutoon> unborn: I have been googling for some time. And, I tried out several software packages. qTox was the closest thing I found, but it's a bit buggy. Skype seems to be the best option. It's free as in beer but not as in freedom.
526[01:56:36] <piklu> unborn : I keep changing computer and I lose the flow of work.
527[01:56:38] <unborn> ah sure.. server.. ssh on my end..
528[01:56:49] *** Joins: cryptic (~cryptic@replaced-ip)
529[01:57:25] <piklu> stoned : I will come back, xquartz wants me to login logout to start it
530[01:57:25] <linuxgoof> so no? no one knows how to revert a dpkg-divert?
531[01:57:33] *** Quits: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
532[01:58:21] *** Joins: MadHezz (MadHezz@replaced-ip)
533[01:58:44] <fishsticks> replaced-url
534[01:58:48] <fishsticks> might help
535[01:58:55] <Shadow_7_> linuxgoof: probably a dpkg-reconfigure
536[01:59:08] <unborn> tofutoon: what I do with my clients is simply plug into network rpi with reverse ssh to my server, then I connect to rpi and have look at network.. then connect to desktop via rdp or vnc and do remote support.. most of vncs have chat build in.. also I run my own irc server if user wants to chat and I am on rdp.. but thats over kill.. simple skype should give you screensharing (no remote access just sharing) and chat.. is that what you looking for?
537[01:59:26] <linuxgoof> @Shadow_7_ if I ran this exact command: dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/initctl do you know how I would go about undoing it?
538[01:59:27] <artificial> So I followed the advice of a couple users here by keeping jessie (instead of stretch) and just using a backport kernel. Now debian no longer boots into gdm and I get the following errors at boot: replaced-url
539[01:59:40] <unborn> piklu: sure.. same here long time ago.. have backup on server. server does not need gui
540[02:00:05] *** Quits: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
541[02:00:16] <unborn> said in simple plain loud words.. ssh would serve you best piklu
542[02:00:20] *** Joins: d-sha (~d-sha@replaced-ip)
543[02:00:24] <stoned> artificial: just boot the old kernel in grub.
544[02:00:34] <stoned> artificial: then remove the bpo kernel
545[02:00:35] <Shadow_7_> linuxgoof: what is it in conflict with? dpkg-divert
546[02:00:44] <stoned> I don't use any goofy backports kernels stable is stable.
547[02:00:56] <missmbob> artificial: install firmware-iwlwifi from jessie-backports as well
548[02:00:57] *** Quits: APexil (~you@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
549[02:00:58] <stoned> backprots are not part of stable, but provided as conveneince to users to use at their own risk.
550[02:01:01] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
551[02:01:06] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip) (Quit: See you around.)
552[02:01:10] <unborn> piklu: if you about to use remote desktop like cloud os - you may better google things out to better understand what it is about. sorry.
553[02:01:11] <linuxgoof> @Shadow_7_ not in conflict with anything, i just don't want anything changed unecessarily
554[02:01:13] <tofutoon> unborn: I'm currently using Skype, but it's a bit buggy. What do you use for rdp and/or vnc?
555[02:01:18] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip)
556[02:01:19] <artificial> stoned: My hardware is pretty new and requires kernel 4.6+, should I just use stretch?
557[02:01:23] <missmbob> artificial: the firmware version has to match the kernel. so both need to be from backports
558[02:01:30] <stoned> artificial: I see your isuse now. Hm.
559[02:01:40] <stoned> artificial: then in that case, install the non-free package
560[02:01:48] <themill> artificial: do you have firmware-misc-nonfree installed?
561[02:01:49] <stoned> artificial: you need contrib non-free in your sources
562[02:02:04] <piklu> stoned: I was able to start a gvim window now.
563[02:02:05] <stoned> Then that packet the mil saisd
564[02:02:07] *** Joins: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip)
565[02:02:09] <stoned> themill said
566[02:02:10] <piklu> stoned : However extremely slow
567[02:02:17] <Dagger> specifically I think you need firmware-misc-nonfree /from backports/
568[02:02:19] <piklu> stoned : how can I start a full desktop ?
569[02:02:24] <stoned> piklu: try ssh -X -C for compression
570[02:02:46] <piklu> stoned : I am on a gigabit line :)
571[02:02:50] *** Quits: flugger (~flugger@replaced-ip) (Quit: flugger)
572[02:02:53] <stoned> piklu: over ssh -X? I dunno. I don't know if you can.
573[02:02:54] <unborn> tofutoon: vnc - realvnc and sometimes for just quick drop of google chrome.. for rdp just rdp.. I mean remmna if you asking for client
574[02:02:59] <Dagger> artificial: although given that stretch is frozen, you might want to just install it directly rather than bothing with backports at the moment
575[02:03:07] <unborn> I dont use skype at all
576[02:03:22] <stoned> stretch is supported in #debian-next on oftc
577[02:03:24] <unborn> tofutoon: also sometimes teamviewer but that depends on client
578[02:03:25] <stoned> irc.debian.org
579[02:03:42] <artificial> stoned: themill I have my sources set to non-free already and I believe firmware-linux-nonfree is also installed.
580[02:03:59] <stoned> ,v firmware-misc-nonfree
581[02:04:00] <judd> Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-2~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20161130-2; stretch/non-free: 20161130-2
582[02:04:01] <themill> artificial: don't believe, check. That dmesg output indicates otherwise
583[02:04:48] <themill> (it may also be that it has just loaded a different version of the firmware of course)
584[02:04:54] <piklu> stoned : almost unusable, very laggy
585[02:04:58] *** Joins: turfrex (~py@replaced-ip)
586[02:05:01] *** Joins: slicepaperwords (~slicepape@replaced-ip)
587[02:05:09] <stoned> piklu: is there an rdesktop client for os x?
588[02:05:10] <piklu> stoned : I extremely like the idea of launching apps.
589[02:05:19] <stoned> piklu: run rdp on debian, rdesktop client on os x
590[02:05:21] <piklu> piklu : Rdesktop ?
591[02:05:22] <artificial> themill: replaced-url
592[02:05:27] <stoned> piklu: rgp > vnc anyway
593[02:05:33] <stoned> vnc updates full, whic this updates in chunks.
594[02:05:37] <stoned> better algorightm.
595[02:05:39] <piklu> stoned : RDP as in windows rdp ?
596[02:05:41] <unborn> tofutoon: realvnc as viewer only.. on linux and on windows and xos as servers I use opensourced binary software.. you can google them
597[02:05:48] <themill> artificial: not that I can see
598[02:05:52] <stoned> rdp is by microsofft, also implented in foss
599[02:05:58] <stoned> yes.
600[02:06:07] <stoned> I personally prefer rdp to vnc
601[02:06:10] <stoned> rdp also carries audio iirc.
602[02:06:11] <themill> artificial: firmware-misc-nonfree is not listed there
603[02:06:12] <stoned> vnc does not.
604[02:06:18] *** Quits: riddle (riddle@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
605[02:06:19] <artificial> themill: Line 165: ii firmware-linux-nonfree 0.43 all Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel
606[02:06:42] <themill> firmware-misc-nonfree ≠ firmware-linux-nonfree
607[02:06:44] *** Quits: trifolio6 (~h@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
608[02:06:58] <stoned> If you have a Linux computer and sound is working on it, then you will be able to get sound through rdesktop. But it's not necessary easy, unless you are aware that there is a bug that prevents it. Good news is that there is a really simple work-around to make sound work. - replaced-url
609[02:07:07] *** Joins: riddle (riddle@replaced-ip)
610[02:07:12] <stoned> If you want a full desktop experience, try rdp on debian, client on os x
611[02:07:20] <stoned> this will give sound too.
612[02:07:21] <artificial> themill: There is no package by that name in jessie
613[02:07:32] <piklu> stoned : RDP installed and connected, same gray screen now
614[02:07:33] <themill> artificial: you're running the kernel from backports
615[02:07:43] <unborn> tofutoon: but primary is vpn connection (if you have this assets) or give client simple rpi poe with reverse connection to your server and then you can use rdp or vnc within local ips..
616[02:07:54] <stoned> piklu: keep messing w/ it, eventually you'll figure it out
617[02:07:56] <themill> artificial: as missmbob said earlier, [12:01] <missmbob> artificial: the firmware version has to match the kernel. so both need to be from backports
618[02:07:57] <stoned> I have to go now.
619[02:07:59] <piklu> stoned : yes
620[02:08:41] <stoned> piklu: there are many solutions to the desktop issue. Run gnome panel over ssh, and use it to launch individual apps on your local machine Xquartz server
621[02:08:52] <stoned> it maybe slow, but you can use -C ssh compression
622[02:08:59] <stoned> over lan, it should be pretyt darn fast.
623[02:09:02] <piklu> stoned : I am pretty sure it has something to do with gnome now
624[02:09:13] <unborn> tofutoon: vpn is very free option.. keep your clients on and when they need support they just log into it and you just connect, be it ssh, vnc, rdp or whatever
625[02:09:16] <unborn> simple and clean
626[02:09:18] <stoned> like I said, xorg launches, you conenc,t just no apps run
627[02:09:21] <piklu> stoned : I launched gnome-session, it asked me to logout.
628[02:09:23] <stoned> display is running afaict
629[02:09:32] <stoned> I don't use goofy desktops man
630[02:09:34] <stoned> Xmoand here.
631[02:09:37] <stoned> and mostly cli apps.
632[02:10:05] *** Quits: Guest17191 (~gadgetguy@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
633[02:10:10] *** Quits: derstrom (~derstrom@replaced-ip) (Quit: derstrom)
634[02:10:20] <stoned> I might setup vpn on a vps
635[02:10:21] <artificial> themill: Still doesnt exist, and I tried installing the other firmware packets with jessie-backports and it says they're already the newest version.
636[02:10:27] <tofutoon> unborn: VPN might be the right option.
637[02:10:36] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
638[02:10:43] <stoned> my cheap vpn right now is screen in terminal :D
639[02:10:47] <stoned> haha
640[02:10:49] *** Quits: modlin_ (modlin@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
641[02:10:51] <tofutoon> unborn: Thanks for the suggestion.
642[02:10:53] <unborn> tofutoon: I am using this for about 8 months and it is.. at least for me..
643[02:10:55] <missmbob> artificial: you must add non-free to jessie-backports line
644[02:11:00] *** Quits: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
645[02:11:01] <themill> !show sources.list artificial
646[02:11:01] <dpkg> artificial: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
647[02:11:26] <unborn> tofutoon: once you loose client for whatever reason you just remove his credentials from vpn and forget him..
648[02:12:24] <unborn> stoned: vpn aka ssh port forwarding is great for proxying :) I love it
649[02:12:31] <tofutoon> unborn: Mainly I'm looking at this as a tool to work with other developers remotely. Neither of us really wants to give access to our machines to the other person.
650[02:12:49] <tofutoon> unborn: That's one reason Skype works well.
651[02:13:00] <stoned> tofutoon: the best way to do this is with version control.
652[02:13:31] <unborn> tofutoon: then vpn should be fine.. if you all *nix based then ssh should be fine too.. if you working on some code, man use git
653[02:13:37] <stoned> tofutoon: development works best when you have a container setup, anyone can replicate, w/ code on repository.
654[02:13:41] <unborn> or something similar
655[02:13:43] <tofutoon> stoned: We use version control, but there's things like design/questions that people don't always want to put down in writing.
656[02:14:02] <stoned> tofutoon: they work best in writing.
657[02:14:05] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip)
658[02:14:10] <piklu> stoned : I am trying to change to a docker based dev now
659[02:14:11] <linuxgoof> Shadow_7_ actually im kind of confused as to what dpkg-divert does in that scenario considering i thought it redirects packages
660[02:14:14] <stoned> There is a reason RFCs are written and not spoken.
661[02:14:36] <unborn> tofutoon: vpn or shared disk somewhere on net.. where you can actually upload things, see them and test them
662[02:14:42] <stoned> Almost all RFC I've read are primarrily design documents.
663[02:14:46] <stoned> Excellent
664[02:15:01] <unborn> tofutoon: I mean calling each other regards button on website is just - ehrm..
665[02:15:10] <Shadow_7_> linuxgoof: without parms it details diverts... files provided by more than one package
666[02:15:23] *** Joins: APexil (~you@replaced-ip)
667[02:15:24] <unborn> but vpn should works for everyone
668[02:15:27] <stoned> piklu: vagrant here.
669[02:15:30] <piklu> stoned : do u have experience with swarm or deis or kubernetes?
670[02:15:43] <stoned> piklu: docker is too ... well, vagrant can spin up instances on rackspace so that's good.
671[02:15:49] <Shadow_7_> like libGL.so that is by xorg or amd proprietary driver
672[02:15:57] <piklu> stoned : I use dedicated machines mosty
673[02:15:57] <stoned> piklu: never heard those names before.
674[02:16:13] <piklu> stoned : Really ??
675[02:16:19] <stoned> Would I lie?
676[02:16:24] * stoned smokes.
677[02:16:26] <unborn> lol
678[02:16:42] <piklu> stoned : look them up. they can save you lots of bills :) making your own cluster using dedi
679[02:16:45] *** Quits: eternal-pain (~eternal-p@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
680[02:16:48] <stoned> ahh
681[02:16:50] <artificial> themill: Installed the backport version, still have dmesg errors and still doesnt boot into gdm
682[02:16:51] <stoned> sure
683[02:17:07] *** Joins: davimore_ (~davimore@replaced-ip)
684[02:17:28] <piklu> stoned : replaced-url
685[02:17:28] *** Quits: slicepaperwords (~slicepape@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
686[02:17:29] <stoned> replaced-url
687[02:17:30] <piklu> try this service too
688[02:17:44] <stoned> Maybe
689[02:17:46] *** Quits: spacebison (~bison@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
690[02:17:49] <stoned> I don't even use containers, really.
691[02:17:53] <unborn> piklu: im running my sites from my own server costing me 23 pops a month on my regular internet.. if you want to save money, do it on your own..
692[02:17:56] <piklu> stoned : replaced-url
693[02:18:05] <unborn> no dedi..
694[02:18:07] <stoned> I'm oldschool. I don't use ansible type config software either
695[02:18:13] <unborn> be your own dedi..
696[02:18:14] <stoned> old school shell scripts and presseding stuffs
697[02:18:21] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
698[02:18:22] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
699[02:18:23] <piklu> unborn : I agree, but i am trying to make a MMORPG baseline. I need better.
700[02:18:23] *** Joins: OS-27789 (~OS-27789@replaced-ip)
701[02:18:24] <stoned> I have dabbled in the whole container thing
702[02:18:25] *** Quits: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
703[02:18:42] <stoned> that whole container and all that workflow is for people who I think have a terrible work habit.
704[02:18:48] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
705[02:18:52] <stoned> I think these containers try to solve a nonproblem. but that' sneither here nor there.
706[02:18:57] <piklu> stoned : you are on right path. you will love swarm though. It is native docker and allows you to make a cluster out of many machines.
707[02:19:08] <stoned> i'll check it otu, thank you
708[02:19:26] *** Quits: d-sha (~d-sha@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
709[02:19:28] *** Joins: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
710[02:19:37] <piklu> piklu - you can than scale them, move here and there, they will self heal and will be highly available.
711[02:19:41] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
712[02:19:45] *** Parts: OS-27789 (~OS-27789@replaced-ip)
713[02:19:55] <stoned> haha.
714[02:19:56] *** Quits: APexil (~you@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
715[02:19:56] *** Quits: davimore (~davimore@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
716[02:20:01] <stoned> don't mention moving things here and there.
717[02:20:20] <stoned> I battled a crazy zfs on linux feature/flag mismatch issue from jessie to stretch for 4 days
718[02:20:30] <stoned> including 3 days of openindiana, freebsd, 3 linux, and 2 debians testing.
719[02:20:42] <stoned> back on zfs after all the ranting. but still.
720[02:20:51] <stoned> (was moving pools across oses)
721[02:21:09] <piklu> stoned : well, it is not a clustered filesystem. It runs many docker containers and allows to be load balanced.
722[02:21:19] *** Quits: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
723[02:21:22] <stoned> *nod*
724[02:21:31] <linuxgoof> is it possible to apt-get the original /sbin files
725[02:21:45] <stoned> linuxgoof: what did you do?
726[02:21:46] <linuxgoof> say if i accidently delete one
727[02:21:46] <unborn> stoned: since we are in same container.. how would you do apache proxy but leave .htaccess rules in local to be applied to proxy.. any thoughts?
728[02:21:55] <stoned> linuxgoof: you can always install-reinstall a package
729[02:22:02] <stoned> which file?
730[02:22:06] <linuxgoof> initctl
731[02:22:09] <stoned> do apt-file on it, fin dth epackage, and reinstall th epacakge.
732[02:22:29] <stoned> apt-file search initctl
733[02:22:41] <stoned> then apt-get install reinstall (forgot syntax, check manpage)
734[02:22:45] *** Joins: nona (~nona@replaced-ip)
735[02:22:46] *** Quits: nona (~nona@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
736[02:23:03] *** Quits: ssw3st (~ssw3st@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
737[02:23:32] <unborn> ...thats what I thought..
738[02:23:56] <unborn> all of those nowadays wanabies.. zero knowledge
739[02:24:33] <unborn> you may be able to deploy docker but rest of it guys? I mean really..
740[02:24:40] <linuxgoof> @stoned okay so there's the one i want to reinstall /sbin/initctl
741[02:24:55] <unborn> wtf is wrong with you. anyway this is supposed to be debian help channel...
742[02:25:33] *** Quits: Gnu77 (~Gnu77@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye)
743[02:26:12] <abishai> guys, is udevd required on a VPS?
744[02:26:14] <stoned> linuxgoof: ok
745[02:26:24] <stoned> abishai: yes.
746[02:26:28] <abishai> okie
747[02:26:43] *** Joins: peterbecich (~user@replaced-ip)
748[02:27:20] *** Quits: LV-426 (~LV-426@replaced-ip) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
749[02:27:21] <linuxgoof> @stoned so when I do apt-get reinstall initctl it says unable to locate
750[02:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1636
751[02:28:05] * unborn docker was build to be easy as.. i wont swearing.. its good toy
752[02:29:29] *** Joins: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip)
753[02:29:35] <abishai> guys I'm coming from Slackware, which I've been using for a few years
754[02:29:45] <abishai> I have to say I'm liking Debian, a lot
755[02:29:53] <abishai> and the package manager is very potent
756[02:29:56] <stoned> /sbin/initctlupstart
757[02:29:57] *** Joins: john19 (~john19@replaced-ip)
758[02:29:57] *** Quits: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
759[02:30:00] <stoned> hm.
760[02:30:06] <stoned> apt-get install --reinstall upstart ?
761[02:30:11] <stoned> try that linuxgoof
762[02:30:16] *** Joins: tucks_ (~tucks@replaced-ip)
763[02:30:20] *** Joins: d-sha (~d-sha@replaced-ip)
764[02:30:26] <Shadow_7_> upstart is ubuntu. and older ubuntu 14.04 -
765[02:30:27] *** Quits: tucks (~tucks@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
766[02:30:30] <unborn> 0o
767[02:30:34] <stoned> replaced-url
768[02:30:42] <stoned> upstart: /sbin/initctl
769[02:30:49] <stoned> apt-file reports this in debian jessie
770[02:30:55] <stoned> reinstall this package.
771[02:31:01] <stoned> and stop deleting things in /sbin
772[02:31:05] <unborn> ,v upstart
773[02:31:06] <judd> Package: upstart on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.6.1-1; jessie: 1.11-5
774[02:31:43] <unborn> hm okay.. ist still there..
775[02:31:57] <stoned> Shadow_7_: ubuntu is debian :)
776[02:32:05] <stoned> well. not 'is', but you get me.
777[02:32:10] <unborn> stoned: ubuntu is not debian
778[02:32:17] <stoned> eh.
779[02:32:22] <unborn> its based on debian but ubuntu is not debian
780[02:32:32] <linuxgoof> doing that want to install a lot of packages
781[02:32:35] <unborn> ubuntu works completely differently from debian
782[02:32:39] <unborn> its not the same thing
783[02:32:43] <stoned> Sir, the package is the same.
784[02:32:51] <stoned> Ubuntu takes debian packages.
785[02:32:59] <stoned> Whatever is in ubuntu, is in debian.
786[02:33:02] <linuxgoof> i just want to install the initctl i guess i can't?
787[02:33:21] <stoned> Then they add all sorts of goofy stuff
788[02:33:25] *** Joins: APexil (~you@replaced-ip)
789[02:33:26] <artificial> abishai: well you come from a distro that doesnt resolve dependencies lol
790[02:33:29] <stoned> But it always begin with debian.
791[02:33:33] *** Quits: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
792[02:33:40] <abishai> artificial: yes :P
793[02:33:46] <unborn> yes Ubuntu takes debian packages but modifies them and uses them for ubuntu.. are you running debian at all by any chance?
794[02:33:55] <unborn> stoned: ^^^
795[02:34:00] <stoned> *facepalm*
796[02:34:02] <stoned> knock it off.
797[02:34:14] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
798[02:34:19] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
799[02:35:27] *** Quits: jncunha (~jncunha@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
800[02:36:00] *** Quits: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
801[02:36:22] *** Quits: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
802[02:36:45] *** Joins: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip)
803[02:36:54] <piklu> stoned : xhost +
804[02:37:02] <piklu> this says unable to open display "localhost:10.0"
805[02:37:07] <piklu> does it click something ?
806[02:37:22] <unborn> I was wonder why half of the stuff you was advised here was not working for users who asked.. dont get me wrong ops does not like me here coz I am pain in butt I mean really, but.... im out of here.
807[02:37:29] <unborn> stoned: ^^^
808[02:38:09] <fishsticks> Ubuntu is Debian that is slightly modded is all
809[02:38:23] <fishsticks> well customised
810[02:38:28] <fishsticks> not modded
811[02:38:49] <unborn> fishsticks: sure.. nothing against it.. but its modded
812[02:38:53] <unborn> not the same thing
813[02:39:04] *** Quits: blotek (~blotek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
814[02:39:44] *** Quits: dubwoc (~meh@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
815[02:42:41] *** Quits: john19 (~john19@replaced-ip) ()
816[02:44:54] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
817[02:46:51] *** Joins: aaro (~aaro@replaced-ip)
818[02:47:08] *** Joins: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip)
819[02:47:08] *** Quits: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
820[02:47:08] *** Joins: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip)
821[02:47:13] <sn0wmonster> Ubuntu is Debian with the mindset of "get this working on all hardware at any cost, especially the cost of security"
822[02:49:30] <unborn> sn0wmonster: o/ long time no seen you.. anyway yes but - debian does run on all hardware too without any compromises
823[02:49:54] <unborn> :) dont forgot there is nonfree.. and it just worked on everything Ive tested
824[02:50:16] *** Quits: piratepete (~IceChat78@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
825[02:50:57] *** Joins: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip)
826[02:51:19] <unborn> I think ubuntu is great for what it does try to sale or whatever you call it, and debian does the same if not better but I would still say, its modified and its not the same thing.
827[02:51:33] <sn0wmonster> I haven't tested them both thoroughly enough to say, but Ubuntu Touch is proof enough fro me that they're most interested in bredth rather than depth
828[02:51:35] *** Quits: linuxgoof (d83a1a65@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
829[02:51:53] <missmbob> !chat
830[02:51:53] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
831[02:52:03] <sn0wmonster> ty missmbob
832[02:52:21] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
833[02:52:23] <unborn> sn0wmonster: i use only debian.. which reminds me that this should be about debian support?
834[02:52:46] <unborn> missmbob: ty and s
835[02:53:01] *** Quits: Envil (~envil@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
836[02:53:32] *** Quits: UUID00 (~UUID00@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
837[02:55:35] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
838[02:55:53] *** Joins: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip)
839[02:55:56] *** Quits: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
840[02:56:20] <piklu> Suggest me a desktop environment other than gnome, I think it is a gnome issue here
841[02:56:21] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
842[02:56:39] *** Joins: stare (~stare@replaced-ip)
843[02:57:07] *** Joins: Willis (Willis@replaced-ip)
844[02:57:41] *** Quits: th_ (~th@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
845[02:57:56] <Digz> piklu, I quite like KDE on my Debian. Its old school, but slick.
846[02:58:06] <piklu> Digz : Trying kde plasma now
847[02:58:09] <unborn> piklu: tty, openbox, kde, xcfe
848[02:58:22] <piklu> unborn : Was trying to take one of them
849[02:58:28] <unborn> and that buggy how you call it..
850[02:58:46] <unborn> developed by mint
851[02:58:52] <unborn> I forgot the name..
852[02:59:12] <unborn> ah and other one the very nice one, buddye?
853[02:59:28] *** Quits: HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
854[02:59:45] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip) (Quit: bzzzZ :P)
855[02:59:46] <unborn> piklu: budgie.. thats the one
856[03:00:07] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
857[03:00:18] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip)
858[03:00:24] <piklu> looks cool.
859[03:00:27] <unborn> what was the name of the buggy one
860[03:00:35] <Digz> unborn, cinnamon?
861[03:00:48] <unborn> Digz: yes !
862[03:00:48] <Digz> or mate?
863[03:01:06] *** Quits: stare (~stare@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
864[03:01:13] <unborn> mate? aint seen that from 2009.. dont even know if that still exist
865[03:01:24] <piklu> x11, it can start apps without a desktop environment, right ? though slow but works, I loved the idea actually. if it was working without lag I would love it.
866[03:01:45] <unborn> piklu: openbox and gnome my favours
867[03:01:48] <unborn> or tty
868[03:01:57] *** Joins: jaythelinuxguy (~quassel@replaced-ip)
869[03:02:06] <piklu> unborn : I like gnome but is not working
870[03:02:17] <piklu> and x11 apps are laggy....without a full desktop I guess.
871[03:02:21] <unborn> piklu: whats not working?
872[03:02:37] <piklu> gnome : whenever I start says oh - there is an error trying to connect
873[03:03:02] *** Joins: gone (~g0ne@replaced-ip)
874[03:03:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
875[03:03:17] *** Joins: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip)
876[03:04:32] <unborn> piklu: connect to where? are you again about your vnc?
877[03:04:34] *** Quits: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
878[03:04:47] <piklu> unborn : It is not a vnc issue at all, I believe it is a gnome issue
879[03:04:48] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
880[03:05:08] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip)
881[03:05:28] <unborn> piklu: so you have an error to connect somewhere from somewhere..
882[03:05:40] *** Quits: kw21 (~kw21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
883[03:05:42] <piklu> unborn : I have an error to start a gnome environment.
884[03:05:44] <unborn> man whats the error msg?
885[03:05:57] <unborn> and how do you exactly connect?
886[03:06:24] *** Quits: g0ne (~g0ne@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
887[03:06:29] <piklu> unborn : I can use vnc or ssh -X
888[03:06:41] *** Joins: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip)
889[03:06:43] <piklu> unborn : starting gnome-session is saying can not connect..oh oh
890[03:06:49] <unborn> sure you can..
891[03:07:17] <unborn> ah..I see..
892[03:09:01] <artificial> Why are there so many gui package management applications pre-installed? (Software, Synaptic, Package Updater, Packages) Whats the difference?
893[03:09:32] <unborn> there is plenty of 3th party (nonfree) software for the thing you just want to accomplish or free some great tool like ssh. I know that you was saying that you want to connect to server and keep your work there.. ssh would be completely fine. vnc it self have documentation out on internet. have look for it. I said that before.. for vnc you will not be able to log into gnome session.. that is why you have an error but perhaps you miss read my message
894[03:09:40] *** Joins: Kawaxi (kawaxi@replaced-ip)
895[03:09:55] <unborn> artificial: synaptic
896[03:10:02] <unborn> great thing ^^^
897[03:10:24] *** Joins: likcoras_ (~likcoras@replaced-ip)
898[03:10:30] *** Joins: piratepete (~IceChat78@replaced-ip)
899[03:10:52] <unborn> piklu: there is plenty.. was for you...
900[03:11:49] <artificial> Also whats the difference between "Firefox ESR" and "Iceweasel -> Firefox ESR"
901[03:12:02] <artificial> and why do I have both installed
902[03:12:12] <unborn> piklu: i dont really get it coz if you install vnc properly as server on linux machine it will install another DE for you.. you wont be able to use gnome session that milion % sure
903[03:12:17] *** Quits: binaryc (~binaryc@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
904[03:12:17] *** Joins: binaryc (~binaryc@replaced-ip)
905[03:12:20] <psychoticwarrior> i think firefox ESR is a newer version
906[03:12:31] <missmbob> nothing. you dont. the -> is just a link because firefox replaced iceweasel
907[03:12:44] <unborn> I think firefox esr is older version.. but I could be wrong
908[03:14:47] <jrtc27> Firefox ESR is the LTS version
909[03:15:20] <unborn> artificial: as jrtc27 said... I was wrong. sorry.
910[03:15:40] <artificial> "Iceweasel->Firefox ESR: This is a transitional package, it can be safely removed."
911[03:16:53] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
912[03:19:05] *** Quits: Grimsley (~justin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
913[03:19:52] <artificial> Can I get the non-esr version of firefox?
914[03:20:25] <missmbob> it's in sid and jessie only
915[03:20:41] <missmbob> ,v firefox
916[03:20:42] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 51.0.1-3~bpo80+1; sid: 51.0.1-3; experimental: 52.0~b9-1
917[03:21:37] *** Quits: GTAXL (~gtaxlnetw@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
918[03:25:13] *** Joins: meatpath (~meatpath@replaced-ip)
919[03:26:53] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
920[03:27:19] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
921[03:27:33] <unborn> artificial: you can still download the ff from its own website, unpacked into your opt directory and use it from there.. I mean manual is on internet.. once verified you happy with package on your system you can remove the debians one in synaptic but this is ill advised
922[03:27:51] <unborn> and also I would say insecure
923[03:27:57] <Kawaxi> Guys I need to find a package , and stop the installation if its already installed , someone could help me?
924[03:28:08] *** Joins: The`Unforgiven (~alabalism@replaced-ip)
925[03:28:19] *** Joins: HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip)
926[03:28:19] <piklu> unborn : $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
927[03:28:24] <piklu> unborn : when I do startkde
928[03:28:33] <somiaj> Kawaxi: what do you mean by find? apt/aptitude will not install packages that are already installed
929[03:28:42] <unborn> piklu: no you dont listen or read what I said
930[03:28:54] <unborn> piklu: no gnome no cinammon no kde
931[03:29:00] <piklu> unborn : why ??
932[03:29:51] <unborn> you can get maximum xcfe.. piklu well you should ask someone who developing vnc for linux, perhaps there is very good reason for this.. less resources for remote
933[03:30:00] *** Joins: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip)
934[03:30:06] <unborn> local is not important that much but remote is
935[03:30:26] *** Quits: AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
936[03:30:29] <piklu> unborn : People are using gnome on vnc
937[03:30:34] <unborn> ...i think its xcfe isnt it
938[03:30:44] <piklu> piklu : and I have 1gbit connection
939[03:30:54] <unborn> yes piklu I use gnome to connect to vnc on my arch..
940[03:30:57] *** Joins: AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@replaced-ip)
941[03:31:01] <Shadow_7_> you should be using some sort of manager. be it startx or otherwise
942[03:31:37] <unborn> again piklu you can connect whatever to lightweight DE like xcfe
943[03:31:38] <veek> for iptables -N, if the chain exists how do we detect and skip
944[03:32:26] <unborn> you will never be able to get connection from your box to gnome or kde or cinnamon.. unless you running that linux in virtualbox
945[03:32:58] <missmbob> unborn: wrong.
946[03:33:02] <unborn> its not about the connection speed its about vnc server
947[03:33:31] <unborn> missmbob: perhaps - sunlight me
948[03:33:52] <missmbob> unborn: the opposite of what you said
949[03:34:10] *** Quits: matt_m (~MatthewM@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
950[03:34:10] *** Quits: overyander (~Jeff@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
951[03:34:21] <unborn> missmbob: so vnc on linux will does load advanced gui like gnome and kde?
952[03:34:23] *** Quits: k000 (~k000@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
953[03:34:47] <unborn> as server.. he is whatever to linux box..
954[03:35:26] *** Joins: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip)
955[03:35:34] *** Joins: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip)
956[03:35:47] *** Joins: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip)
957[03:35:52] *** Joins: dixie7z__ (~dixie7z@replaced-ip)
958[03:36:00] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
959[03:36:23] *** Quits: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
960[03:36:54] <somiaj> Kawaxi: please speak in the channel, don't send messages
961[03:37:36] <Kawaxi> somiaj , I havent pm you.
962[03:37:56] <somiaj> you are sending some kinda of message, just speak in the channel
963[03:38:01] *** Joins: sul-fyr (~bob@replaced-ip)
964[03:38:12] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
965[03:38:12] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
966[03:38:12] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
967[03:38:16] <Kawaxi> notice is not some kind of msg, its the same you use when you mention my nickname...
968[03:38:17] <somiaj> anyways I suggest using dpkg to check if something is installed first, that might work better.
969[03:38:35] <Kawaxi> dpkg..
970[03:38:40] *** Quits: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
971[03:38:43] <unborn> somiaj: there is easy way to block that - I think debian chan have it in message right as you connect to it.. just give your self favour with +r more
972[03:38:47] <unborn> *mode
973[03:39:18] <somiaj> unborn: it isn't a /msg, but it is some other message, maybe something the client is doing.
974[03:39:23] <Kawaxi> thanks for the suggestion somiaj
975[03:39:28] *** Quits: dixie7z_ (~dixie7z@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
976[03:40:03] *** Quits: missmbob (~missmbob@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
977[03:40:12] <Kawaxi> you more than likely hes receiving a notification product of the / notice
978[03:40:16] *** Joins: missmbob (~missmbob@replaced-ip)
979[03:40:23] *** Joins: HugsWont1etgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip)
980[03:40:38] <unborn> missmbob: I admit I used vnc in long time ago on linux box.. but never been able to connect to gone or other.. only wino used to let you do this.. but I am not sure.. if you would spare few moments to tell me and piklu how to do this? hes been trying it all evening.. like 3 hours
981[03:40:42] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
982[03:40:54] <unborn> ..and I also would love to know hot to do that
983[03:40:56] <somiaj> the messages are going to my main information console, this is not normal, if you are just typing my name and this is automatically happening, it is a configuration in your client.
984[03:41:15] *** Quits: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
985[03:41:32] <unborn> vnc server on linux box simply would not work with gnome.. thats what I know past several years...but I could be also wrong.
986[03:41:56] *** Quits: sulfyr (~bob@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
987[03:41:58] *** sul-fyr is now known as sulfyr
988[03:42:00] <unborn> somiaj: ah sure.
989[03:42:05] *** Joins: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip)
990[03:43:56] *** Quits: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
991[03:44:28] *** Joins: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip)
992[03:45:04] *** Quits: bdeferme (~bdeferme@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
993[03:45:45] <Kawaxi> noted somiaj
994[03:45:49] *** Joins: Jgd888 (32833254@replaced-ip)
995[03:46:22] *** Quits: mdorenka (~mdorenka@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
996[03:47:10] *** Quits: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
997[03:47:14] <Jgd888> hi everyone. I took a hdd with windows out of a laptop and put in a ssd from another computer that has debian on it. The laptop is saying no bootable device found even though the ssd is connected. Uefi issue maybe?
998[03:47:38] <unborn> I guess sunlight isnt happening
999[03:47:58] *** Joins: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip)
1000[03:47:59] *** Joins: mdorenka (~mdorenka@replaced-ip)
1001[03:48:27] <unborn> Jgd888: did you cloned the hdd or you just simply copied?
1002[03:49:20] <Jgd888> unborn i had the ssd in another laptop running debian. All i did was take it out and put it in this other laptop. No cloning or anything
1003[03:49:39] <Jgd888> Since it already has a OS on it i want to use after switching laptops
1004[03:49:40] <unborn> that would not work
1005[03:50:18] <Shadow_7_> How old is the UEFI?
1006[03:50:33] <Jgd888> really? I thought debian didn't depend on the hardware like windows and a hard drive could be transfered to any machine
1007[03:50:39] <Shadow_7_> Some only boot DOS partitioning
1008[03:50:45] <Jgd888> Not sure how old but it's a new laptop
1009[03:50:51] <unborn> you will have to have very very much similar hardware to be able to run it again but you will still have to and must reactivate windows it self
1010[03:50:53] <Jgd888> Old computer had uefi too
1011[03:50:58] <Shadow_7_> Some drives don't have boot hardware in them
1012[03:51:09] <Jgd888> It does not have windows
1013[03:51:16] <Jgd888> Osn't this debian channel?
1014[03:51:34] *** Quits: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1015[03:51:35] <unborn> Jgd888: you can try it but if cpu was changed and bios as well.. you more likely to have bsod
1016[03:51:41] <unborn> blue screen of death
1017[03:51:46] <Shadow_7_> I have the same issue here, but I use a usb bootable distro to boot the ssd
1018[03:52:00] <Jgd888> bsod is a windows thing. Is unborn a troll?
1019[03:52:09] <unborn> okay
1020[03:52:11] *** likcoras_ is now known as likcoras
1021[03:52:12] <unborn> good luck then
1022[03:52:20] <Shadow_7_> I can configfile (hd1,gpt1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg boot the ssd
1023[03:52:54] <Jgd888> So shadow, i should put a livecd ln a usb and try to use it to get grub and boot from the ssd?
1024[03:53:09] *** Joins: artificial_ (~artificia@replaced-ip)
1025[03:53:12] *** Joins: sidmo (~sidmo@replaced-ip)
1026[03:53:22] <Jgd888> Or would reinstalling debian on the ssd work
1027[03:53:29] <Shadow_7_> it's easier to boot a usb linux and update-grub on it, and use it's menu to select
1028[03:53:50] *** Quits: nikoma (~nikoma@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1029[03:54:32] <Jgd888> How do I update-grub? Boot into the live distro and run uodate-grub, then reboot and see if the ssd is listed?
1030[03:54:51] <Shadow_7_> as root, but basically yes
1031[03:54:56] <unborn> aha .. another hdd with debian on it.. well that should work instantly.. sorry I was reading you try to place windows hdd into another laptop
1032[03:55:11] <unborn> my bad
1033[03:55:55] <Jgd888> yea unborn i think it should have worked instantly too
1034[03:56:04] <Shadow_7_> Assuming the live distro isn't read-only
1035[03:56:13] <Jgd888> CPU shouldn't matter
1036[03:56:15] *** Quits: kacie (4c7e8cf3@replaced-ip) (Quit: /dev/fun)
1037[03:56:19] <unborn> Jgd888: sorry I am not troll, I just read it all wrong..
1038[03:56:19] *** Quits: artificial (4ca75e9d@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
1039[03:56:33] <Jgd888> no problem
1040[03:57:00] *** Quits: sidmo_ (~sidmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1041[03:57:03] <unborn> yeah, Jgd888 what I would do try is to disable/enable uefi - depends what you will see when you log into bios
1042[03:57:34] <Shadow_7_> Some systems are sensitive to if the ssd is SATA II or SATA III
1043[03:57:41] <unborn> Jgd888: most of the times when I move around the bare metal with my existing system, I just plug it in and it works instantly
1044[03:57:49] <unborn> am also on ssd
1045[03:57:53] <Shadow_7_> sata 2 bootable... sata 3 fail
1046[03:57:59] *** Quits: artificial_ (~artificia@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1047[03:58:11] <unborn> Jgd888: I should have somewhere here button
1048[03:58:22] <unborn> been changing machine about 4 times
1049[03:58:25] *** Joins: fstd_ (~fstd@replaced-ip)
1050[03:58:26] <unborn> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.7 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.34GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 83.5% free ** Disk: Total: 427.8GiB, 36.7% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 645 M1681 P4 Northbridge [AGP8X,HyperTransport and SDR/DDR]
1051[03:58:26] <unborn> ** Uptime: 2d 2h 41m 57s **
1052[03:58:42] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1053[03:58:44] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
1054[03:59:13] <unborn> crap it does not say if ssd.. but basically you should be able to just plug disk in and continue to work
1055[03:59:35] <Jgd888> I tried
1056[03:59:44] <Jgd888> :(
1057[04:00:00] <piklu> unborn : I removed xrdp and installed again, i removed the /etc/init.d file manually, now its not generating it. any help ?
1058[04:00:05] <unborn> Jgd888: even with uefi optoin on and off?
1059[04:00:17] *** Joins: g0ne_ (~g0ne@replaced-ip)
1060[04:00:22] <unborn> Jgd888: is the disc encrypted?
1061[04:01:47] *** Joins: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip)
1062[04:02:36] *** Quits: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1063[04:02:45] <Jgd888> unborn yes it is
1064[04:02:55] <Jgd888> Is that a problem? Luks
1065[04:03:01] <piklu> unborn : I removed xrdp and installed again, i removed the /etc/init.d file manually, now its not generating it. any help ?
1066[04:03:18] <unborn> piklu: - wow.. well that is outside of my scope.. well its not but I would suggest you to reinstall that machine. missmbob said you could connect to gnome if there on that linux box is vnc server.. which to me looks like its not possible, unless its really outside of my scope.. I had no sunlight from him regards his last reply so.. best bet would be to reinstall machine and use xcfe as end view for your remote vnc session..
1067[04:03:22] <unborn> sorry about troubles
1068[04:03:38] *** Quits: gone (~g0ne@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1069[04:04:45] <Shadow_7_> vncviewer worked for me long ago. just need to know the port (5900) on the host machine and not have it blocked by firewall
1070[04:04:45] *** Joins: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip)
1071[04:04:51] <unborn> Jgd888: ah - well.. that will not work.. you changed the hardware - to be honest with you I dont really know if that does read signature of the hardware but it should - and I am not troll - just saying. encrypted disk onto another machine is possible but its outside of my scope.
1072[04:05:23] <unborn> I mean to give advice to someones else data.. I cannot help
1073[04:05:32] <Jgd888> Oh ok
1074[04:06:32] <epsilon> vnc, rdesktop, spicy... many options these days
1075[04:06:50] *** Quits: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye~)
1076[04:07:10] *** Joins: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip)
1077[04:07:30] <unborn> Shadow_7_: yeh for me last time in 2009 :) but that was last time.. and no gnome session possible.. maybe I am wrong
1078[04:08:09] <unborn> piklu: or just use ssh - for me that is the best option.. sorry im a bit old
1079[04:08:21] <piklu> unborn : I agree however ssh -X is too slow
1080[04:08:39] <Shadow_7_> I want to say x11vnc on the host. When you viewed and stopped the viewer, the host stopped hosting
1081[04:09:39] <unborn> piklu: may I ask after those hours.. what on earth you need gui for? I mean on server..
1082[04:10:10] <piklu> unborn : I have a developer and me, I need to continue my workflow and setup environment for him. I need a remote linux environment
1083[04:10:18] <unborn> Shadow_7_: I would agree with him.. x is slow over net.. from usa to uk.. its just pain
1084[04:10:38] <unborn> piklu: sure, thats sounds about right
1085[04:11:01] <unborn> piklu: and whats the purpose of that dev work? source code?
1086[04:11:07] <Shadow_7_> I found it surprisingly performant... on local 10/100 ethernet
1087[04:11:14] *** Quits: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.8-dev)
1088[04:11:54] <unborn> Shadow_7_: did you just read what I said.. I was talking about 1000+miles.. not local network
1089[04:12:37] <Shadow_7_> I know, but there are other options and not all interwebs suck. x2go is what the nubs seem to favor these days
1090[04:12:39] *** Quits: Jgd888 (32833254@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1091[04:12:42] <piklu> unborn : We need to create a primary dev environment to code projects, like a MMORPG backend, some java jobs, I will use docker and python and eclipse etc
1092[04:12:44] <unborn> and I believe piklu was talking same
1093[04:12:57] <unborn> sure
1094[04:13:01] <piratepete> anyone here running an old IRC program that would stay on in your terminal and you could logout and then come back to the terminal later and IRC was still there? I forget the name of it. It's been years but I liked it.
1095[04:13:12] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip)
1096[04:13:25] <Shadow_7_> piratepete: irssi and screen
1097[04:13:34] <Shadow_7_> or tmux
1098[04:13:51] <unborn> piklu: you may consider very fast environment with some version control like a git
1099[04:13:57] <piratepete> <Shadow_7_>: that's it! perfect!
1100[04:14:03] <unborn> no gui is need it at all, its easy
1101[04:14:27] <stoned> can be any client in screen
1102[04:14:35] <stoned> I switch between irssi and weechat
1103[04:14:35] <unborn> piratepete: yes.. you may consider znc on your server..
1104[04:14:49] *** Joins: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip)
1105[04:14:50] <piklu> unborn : yes, only if I was using linux locally, a typical problem comes when the flow of your work is gone by rebooting computers, coming back from work etc, on a server I am very confident I can simply work in the manner I need without interupption
1106[04:15:18] <piratepete> is there an install of irssi for debian e.g. apt-get install irssi?
1107[04:15:26] <unborn> one chan one login to all your chans whenever you go off, you will be still presented also once you log in you would read logs.. google it znc
1108[04:15:32] <Shadow_7_> piratepete: yes even xirssi for nubs
1109[04:15:34] <unborn> ,v znc
1110[04:15:35] <judd> Package: znc on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.206-2; jessie: 1.4-2; jessie-backports: 1.6.4-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.6.4-1; sid: 1.6.4-1+b1
1111[04:15:42] <unborn> its even in repos
1112[04:16:21] <unborn> yes piklu git works even offline
1113[04:16:35] <unborn> you do your changes to code, then you pull and push and you done
1114[04:17:03] <unborn> other developer simply pull and edit your code, then once he is ready he just push it back
1115[04:17:15] <unborn> so you can both be synced
1116[04:17:21] <unborn> or more of you
1117[04:17:45] <unborn> piklu: good example is github.. :)
1118[04:17:49] <somiaj> piratepete: you will also need something like tmux or screen to run the terminal irc client in.
1119[04:18:10] *** Quits: piratepete (~IceChat78@replaced-ip) (Quit: I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!!)
1120[04:18:13] <unborn> 1+ somiaj for screen
1121[04:18:27] *** Quits: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1122[04:18:31] <stoned> google screen vs tmux pros and cons
1123[04:18:44] <unborn> but I still think you can run some irc bouncer even if you use terminal
1124[04:18:54] *** Quits: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1125[04:19:15] *** Joins: Guest88113 (~root@replaced-ip)
1126[04:19:53] *** Joins: inex (~inex@replaced-ip)
1127[04:20:07] *** Joins: sawthewhat (~sawthewha@replaced-ip)
1128[04:20:19] *** Joins: piratepete (~IceChat78@replaced-ip)
1129[04:20:25] *** Quits: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1130[04:20:45] *** Parts: sawthewhat (~sawthewha@replaced-ip)
1131[04:21:06] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
1132[04:21:18] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1133[04:21:22] <piratepete> I am in irssi and I logged off freenode but it wouldn't let me identify
1134[04:21:37] *** Quits: Guest88113 (~root@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1135[04:21:40] <unborn> piklu: repos on your computer will be always yours.. when you pull you will get his or their updates to your code from server and it will merge to your own code changes.. if no conflicts then your can push it back to server so others can update.. also it will tell you who was changed what and you would be able to retrieve it back if anything wrong.
1136[04:21:51] <somiaj> piratepete: you may want #freenode or an irssi channel for that. But you can configure auto identify in irssi
1137[04:21:51] <unborn> there are even web apps for it
1138[04:22:38] <piratepete> somiaj: thanks
1139[04:22:41] *** Joins: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip)
1140[04:22:43] <unborn> no vnc or any other crap need it piklu
1141[04:22:48] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip)
1142[04:23:58] *** Quits: piratepete (~IceChat78@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1143[04:24:40] *** Joins: piratepete (~root@replaced-ip)
1144[04:25:06] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1145[04:25:14] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1146[04:26:14] <unborn> heck you can run this even without server if you run linux on your machine.. piklu if not you only need somewhere cheap linux machine. I can help you with git web gui as well.
1147[04:26:30] <piklu> git web gui ??
1148[04:27:20] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1149[04:27:37] <unborn> ah
1150[04:27:46] <unborn> :) piklu one moment
1151[04:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1630
1152[04:28:46] <unborn> piklu: that is just an example.. this is web gui (the ugly way) of git repository.. keep in mind this was my home project..
1153[04:29:11] <unborn> git repos in terminal looks much better for me but its only personal preference...
1154[04:29:12] *** Joins: oneand0 (~oneand0@replaced-ip)
1155[04:29:19] <unborn> piklu: here: replaced-url
1156[04:29:28] *** Quits: oneand0 (~oneand0@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1157[04:29:33] <stoned> yup. script some gitty stuff, publish blog articles on my site in like 2 seconds.
1158[04:30:53] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1159[04:31:04] *** Quits: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.8-dev)
1160[04:31:15] <unborn> piklu: you can see changes and all sort of rubbish you do to your code.. that repo is just a demo - i mean its real but its just demo :)
1161[04:31:34] <unborn> stoned: yes.
1162[04:31:51] <unborn> but its more about other things..
1163[04:32:07] *** Joins: tippy (0599e922@replaced-ip)
1164[04:33:05] *** Joins: sawthewhat (~sawthewha@replaced-ip)
1165[04:33:12] <stoned> sure.
1166[04:33:17] <stoned> want me to show you how fastly?
1167[04:33:20] <piklu> unborn : i have used things which allow for online coding, like codeanywhere, icecoder etc, they are similar.....but to be honest working on linux environment helps
1168[04:33:41] <piklu> unborn : I believe I need to work on more complicated stuff.
1169[04:34:02] <unborn> piklu: the point of git is you coding on your laptop even without internet with all of your tools
1170[04:34:05] <sawthewhat> how to scroll my screen?
1171[04:34:13] <piklu> unborn : and how do u build and test ?
1172[04:34:16] <missmbob> page up/page down
1173[04:34:17] <unborn> piklu: once you have internet you just push it to the server
1174[04:34:24] <sawthewhat> thx.
1175[04:34:27] <stoned> sawthewhat: sometime ctrl+page up down
1176[04:34:33] <Shadow_7_> sawthewhat: Shift+PageUp / Shift+PageDown
1177[04:34:38] <stoned> or that.
1178[04:34:40] <piklu> unborn : how about when u want to run many times and test in 10 min sessions
1179[04:34:48] <sawthewhat> ok i see
1180[04:34:48] <Shadow_7_> Or mouse wheel if gui
1181[04:34:50] <unborn> piklu: ah you mean testing your code? sure.. virtual machine and test it there so I do not mess my real machine
1182[04:34:52] <stoned> hey watch this is how fast.
1183[04:34:59] *** Joins: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip)
1184[04:35:28] <unborn> stoned: I dont know what you mean but it will be slow.. not using any cache or other rubbish
1185[04:35:42] <unborn> if that was what you mean
1186[04:36:12] *** Quits: piratepete (~root@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1187[04:36:21] <ghormoon> hi, is there something like hddscan in repos? that would be able to write some random data (or patterns) over whole disk and then read it listing slow parts/sectors of there are any?
1188[04:36:45] <unborn> piklu: pardon me.. linux kernel the very base is controlled by git
1189[04:37:03] <stoned> unborn: replaced-url
1190[04:38:37] <unborn> piklu: I mean I tried to help you.. but you seems to me, that you have no idea what you on about.. coding is not some childish container with one command and here we working yay.. its responsibility.. anyway you dont need me to tell you. if you think git is not good for you but its good for linux developers and founder of linux it self then - I am deeply sorry - cannot freaking help ya
1191[04:38:58] <sawthewhat> im new here. and, why i can't use some commands in channels? i typed many commands and pressed enter. irssi echoed nothing to me.
1192[04:39:20] <missmbob> freenode doesnt support *all* commands
1193[04:39:30] <unborn> stoned: exactly :) 1+ (but still ubuntu is not debian - get this to your nut) :)
1194[04:39:31] *** Quits: muhannad (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Quit: muhannad)
1195[04:39:47] <stoned> What?
1196[04:39:51] <Shadow_7_> sawthewhat: if it's not an irssi command it'll go to the irc server
1197[04:40:16] <Shadow_7_> sawthewhat: switching windows is /window 2 ... /window 3 ... or /2 /3 for short
1198[04:40:19] <stoned> unborn: seriously. Knockk it off
1199[04:40:25] <unborn> sawthewhat: sometimes use brain.. as you surely know - few things you read on internet will never work on public irc chan
1200[04:40:47] <unborn> stoned: dont be upset..
1201[04:40:49] *** Joins: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip)
1202[04:40:51] <Shadow_7_> sawthewhat: it's not well documented, but it is documented depending on sources from which your draw.
1203[04:40:58] <stoned> unborn: im not upset, I think you're confused.
1204[04:41:00] *** Quits: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye~)
1205[04:41:02] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1206[04:41:07] <stoned> I don't use bubuntutu
1207[04:41:09] <stoned> whatever it's called.
1208[04:41:09] *** Joins: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip)
1209[04:41:14] *** Quits: sawthewhat (~sawthewha@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1210[04:41:28] <unborn> stoned - perhaps you may be right.
1211[04:41:49] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1212[04:41:59] <stoned> unborn: I forgot I wrote another article in debian
1213[04:42:39] <unborn> but really liked your blog post.. you know you can write git push alias or something to push that thingy out with those things you write on your blog.. just saying stoned ;)
1214[04:42:58] *** Quits: CEnnis91 (uid3543@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1215[04:43:16] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1216[04:43:47] *** Quits: Tempesta (Tempesta@replaced-ip) (Quit: See ya!)
1217[04:44:14] <unborn> stoned we should keep in mind that this is debian support chan.. im bit relaxed - as here is 4am.. but really this should not be here
1218[04:44:34] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
1219[04:44:39] <unborn> but you was very right about gitty thing ;)
1220[04:44:51] *** Joins: setham (~setham@replaced-ip)
1221[04:46:23] *** Joins: surveyor (~surveyor@replaced-ip)
1222[04:46:55] *** Joins: piratepete (~root@replaced-ip)
1223[04:48:08] <stoned> Sure
1224[04:48:19] <stoned> The thing I'm trying to update my zram script.
1225[04:48:38] <stoned> I was using 4 devides, 512mb ech, but now 2gb each, 2 devies half my ram for compression
1226[04:48:58] <stoned> replaced-url
1227[04:49:17] <unborn> 2 gigs - why would you ever need to compress that small poo?
1228[04:49:27] *** Maxdaman1us is now known as Maxdamantus
1229[04:50:09] <stoned> I'll modify the script, and make it so /etc/init.d/zram start 2 2048 would start 2 devices that size.
1230[04:50:25] <stoned> gonna make it take num_devices and size_devices as params.
1231[04:50:57] <stoned> not that I'll be changing it around, but keeps it nice and ... something.
1232[04:51:30] <unborn> even taken no of devices and rams.. its just like my home server - still poo.. whats the cpus?
1233[04:51:36] <unborn> *are
1234[04:51:41] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1235[04:52:20] <piklu> unborn : we all use git, but git is not a solution for local development environment, or is it ?
1236[04:52:25] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1237[04:52:32] *** Quits: peterbecich (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1238[04:52:33] <stoned> there is even git for /etc/
1239[04:52:34] <stoned> :)
1240[04:52:37] *** Quits: jemadux (~jemadux@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection timed out)
1241[04:52:44] <stoned> lots of uses for git, version management of documetns too
1242[04:52:49] <stoned> for /home
1243[04:53:09] <stoned> Anything you want to track changes.
1244[04:53:18] <unborn> ah common piklu for testing your code you can install some free virtualbox and debian or whatever os you want to test it on... running right from your windows os
1245[04:53:41] <unborn> piklu: I mean what a question - really?
1246[04:54:06] *** Quits: setham (~setham@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZZzzz…)
1247[04:54:27] <unborn> stoned: my git runs on 1gig ram and - well its acer revo r3600
1248[04:54:35] <unborn> stoned: 78 users
1249[04:55:08] <unborn> does not go up more then 400megs/38%cpu
1250[04:55:22] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
1251[04:56:54] <stoned> replaced-url
1252[04:57:22] <stoned> replaced-url
1253[04:57:28] *** Quits: badiane (~badiane@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1254[04:58:34] <unborn> piklu: I offered help but you seems to not listen also I think you have no clue what you actually want to accomplish. not a worry about it.. we all been there.. as I said google it.. its all there. I think you was looking completely in wrong direction.. if you on about testing your container scripts with your collaborates you can do that in free server - there is plenty of them just for testing purposes.. you dont need me
1255[04:58:51] <unborn> - basically I dont think so I am well advanced to help.
1256[04:59:09] *** Quits: rafaeldelucena (~rafaeldel@replaced-ip) (Quit: zzz)
1257[04:59:19] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip) (Quit: Fui!)
1258[04:59:26] <unborn> stoned: I like those :)
1259[04:59:38] <piklu> unborn : it depends on what u need, I really need all my terminal, all my browser tabs, everything I do to stay intact, got it ?
1260[04:59:39] <unborn> stoned: crap resolution for bg ;)
1261[05:00:16] <unborn> piklu: you seems to really not understand.. you will have that all.. never mind.
1262[05:00:27] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1263[05:00:37] <piklu> unborn : I will have that all ? like with git-web I can have a browser window opened?
1264[05:00:51] <unborn> sorry piklu, it would be better for you to try vnc solution you was after all the times.
1265[05:01:06] <piklu> unborn : don't wanna let a good option go, please explain
1266[05:01:53] <unborn> piklu: you know you can have many tabs open in your browser and also you know git web interface is to view quickly the code not to work on it
1267[05:02:22] <unborn> also piklu that web thingy would run on your server not on your laptop..
1268[05:03:10] <piklu> unborn : ok, so what to do with my laptop rebooting ? won't that close my browser windows...and existing terminal sessions
1269[05:03:19] *** Joins: artificial_ (~artificia@replaced-ip)
1270[05:04:22] <unborn> running it locally was optional suggestion however git it self is terminal - mean eats less then one meb of ram.. so I think since here is 4am and I am really tired of trying and keeping explain you all the times what devops really does and helping you or perhaps as English is my 4th language - it must be very bad, which I think is my fail. sorry.
1271[05:04:23] *** Joins: lenswipee (~lenswipee@replaced-ip)
1272[05:05:08] *** Quits: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1273[05:05:27] *** Joins: kmo (~kmo@replaced-ip)
1274[05:05:51] *** Joins: l4m8d4 (~daniel@replaced-ip)
1275[05:06:18] *** Joins: bins (~bins@replaced-ip)
1276[05:06:28] <unborn> piklu: you just log into your machine as you was before and you run your testing environment for your apps again. if you would use free testing servers for docker fine, - they are valid for as long you use them, if the server is not used for about 10 minutes it will be deleted, so you freaking deploy your docker thingy again and continue to work
1277[05:06:41] <unborn> - I just dont get it
1278[05:06:54] *** Quits: kmo (~kmo@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1279[05:07:17] <unborn> which part of I am saying is bad? or all of it? :D
1280[05:07:18] *** Joins: krups_v2 (~krups@replaced-ip)
1281[05:07:20] *** Joins: user01 (~user01@replaced-ip)
1282[05:07:39] *** user01 is now known as eggshen
1283[05:10:14] <stoned> unborn: I made those in 2004
1284[05:10:15] <unborn> piklu: or purchase some nice server and run your development there.. once you finished with your development publish it on github
1285[05:10:27] <unborn> easy
1286[05:10:28] *** Quits: krups (~krups@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1287[05:10:29] *** Parts: lenswipee (~lenswipee@replaced-ip)
1288[05:10:42] <piklu> unborn : I have dedicated servers !
1289[05:10:43] <unborn> stoned: nice one man
1290[05:10:51] <unborn> piklu: so enjoy
1291[05:11:09] <piklu> unborn : Yes, that is what am trying to do, setup dedicated environment to develop on this machine
1292[05:11:16] *** Joins: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip)
1293[05:11:27] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
1294[05:12:09] <unborn> I only assume what you trying.. as you do not saying properly what you actually want. read it in backlog.
1295[05:13:12] <unborn> piklu: that is completely different from vnc shit you was on about to development - testing machine is not development - development happens when you write your code and deploy..
1296[05:13:19] *** Quits: mquin (~mquin@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1297[05:13:53] *** Joins: mquin (~mquin@replaced-ip)
1298[05:14:01] <piklu> unborn : consider your developer having a very light weight machine, not suitable to continously test ur dev codes, you would like to help him ? right ? using a server.
1299[05:14:03] <piklu> thats all.
1300[05:14:18] <unborn> piklu: you know what, I do admire you, you have dedi servers, go and use them as dedicated environment to develop whatever you want. Im sorry but I cannot help you as I do not understand.. im just human.
1301[05:14:23] <unborn> good luck.
1302[05:14:41] * unborn im fucking devops man
1303[05:14:50] <unborn> like really?
1304[05:14:54] <unborn> :D
1305[05:15:05] <unborn> stoned: photoshop or gimp?
1306[05:16:01] <piklu> unborn : I appreciate you are a devops, I have worked on all sorts of devops shit now. :)
1307[05:16:26] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1308[05:17:22] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1309[05:17:36] <stoned> gimp
1310[05:17:47] <stoned> On debian sarge
1311[05:17:59] <unborn> yeah I hope so, no one ever like you get write any code for docker. anyway insulting anyone is under my level of humanity - sorry piklu take your garbage away, you get my full ignore :) have nice day/evening.
1312[05:18:26] <stoned> O_o
1313[05:19:05] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1314[05:19:14] *** Parts: tippy (0599e922@replaced-ip)
1315[05:19:35] <unborn> stoned: how did you managed to get those brushes on second picture? does gimp - can that be done in gimp? i mean it looks nice but sort of darker color would be my taste. I
1316[05:20:02] <unborn> mean if you would share source of it.. I could play with it ;)
1317[05:20:42] <piklu> unborn : I did not insult you, but you seem to be undermining importance completely of having a machine to develop on locally. A always available dev environment, your being devops is making you feel build deploy is the only reality, that is not how all people work. It is not possible to keep waiting for your deploy agents to keep compiling and building while dev is waiting to see what happened.
1318[05:20:43] <stoned> lost xcf files
1319[05:20:51] <unborn> piklu: never call people shit. its just bad.
1320[05:21:13] <stoned> unborn: he did not call anyone shit.
1321[05:21:23] <piklu> unborn: Let's end this topic now. I did not call you shit.... I said all devops shit...... it means like devops and everything....
1322[05:21:32] <stoned> it's a figure of speech.
1323[05:21:54] <piklu> unborn : and I apologize for causing confusion and if you felt disrespected. Please let's close this topic now
1324[05:22:05] <unborn> stoned thanks but "piklu> unborn : I appreciate you are a devops, I have worked on all sorts of devops shit now. :)" we dont need to even talk about it.. it sounds like it was written.. just move on
1325[05:22:13] *** Quits: artificial_ (~artificia@replaced-ip) (Quit: artificial_)
1326[05:22:20] *** Joins: artificial_ (~artificia@replaced-ip)
1327[05:22:31] <piklu> stoned : I launched a new VM, and everything worked smoothly with RDP and KDE, seems like that server has strange issues, but KDE is causing drama
1328[05:22:42] *** artificial_ is now known as artificial
1329[05:22:43] <stoned> sounds good
1330[05:22:50] <stoned> I don't mess around w/ goofy desktops
1331[05:22:56] <piklu> stoned : and checkout apache guacamole, it looks awesome
1332[05:23:06] <stoned> Last time, I used KDE 3.5.10. Best kde of life.
1333[05:23:16] <stoned> Many years past.
1334[05:23:36] <stoned> Since then, I used just a xmonad wm.
1335[05:23:39] *** Joins: b30wulf (uid175355@replaced-ip)
1336[05:23:47] <piklu> stoned, my primarily use is on SSH, but due to my nature of work I seriously feel the need to have some place to keep all my browser tabs, workflow, etc open....so I can come back and work, and so does my dev.
1337[05:24:13] <stoned> guacamole is nice.
1338[05:24:33] <stoned> piklu: browser sessions.
1339[05:24:42] <piklu> stoned : yes
1340[05:24:57] <unborn> stoned: yeah if I would not tell him about 5 hours ago he would not even know :D
1341[05:26:04] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1342[05:26:08] *** Quits: Lokke (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1343[05:26:58] *** krups_v2 is now known as krups
1344[05:27:01] *** Quits: krups (~krups@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1345[05:27:01] *** Joins: krups (~krups@replaced-ip)
1346[05:27:30] *** Quits: koma (~koma@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1347[05:28:06] <piklu> unborn : are u pointing to me ? I know about guacamole since many months now
1348[05:28:19] *** Joins: exedore6 (~cleryd@replaced-ip)
1349[05:28:23] *** Joins: koma (~koma@replaced-ip)
1350[05:28:47] *** koma is now known as Guest78848
1351[05:29:57] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1352[05:29:57] <stoned> guys.
1353[05:30:00] <stoned> Come on.
1354[05:30:23] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1355[05:31:09] *** Quits: meatpath (~meatpath@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1356[05:31:21] *** Quits: miczac (~miczac@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1357[05:33:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
1358[05:33:38] <piklu> stoned : I can't really get him anymore. I will remain silent for a while and fix guacamole
1359[05:34:32] <stoned> unborn: brush strokes are fractal patterns in gimp, I can't recall which. I'll have to get back into gimpy stuffs again
1360[05:35:04] <unborn> stoned: just looking into it
1361[05:36:05] *** Joins: {0}_{0} (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip)
1362[05:36:22] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1363[05:36:45] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1364[05:37:18] *** Quits: {0}_{0} (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1365[05:37:19] *** Joins: {0}_{0} (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip)
1366[05:37:27] *** {0}_{0} is now known as ByteStorm
1367[05:37:41] <unborn> stoned: I will have look tomorrow when I wake up.. its a bit late here.
1368[05:38:08] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (##replaced-url
1369[05:38:24] *** Joins: u0_a272 (~u0_a272@replaced-ip)
1370[05:38:30] <unborn> stoned: perhaps I could use some free image as background and play with logo in front plus some hue and saturation.. that would do just as about same ;)
1371[05:38:44] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1372[05:38:56] <stoned> Layers.
1373[05:39:04] <unborn> oh yeah
1374[05:39:45] *** Quits: exedore6 (~cleryd@replaced-ip) (Quit: exedore6)
1375[05:40:48] *** Quits: u0_a272 (~u0_a272@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1376[05:41:56] *** eggshen is now known as eggshen80
1377[05:41:58] *** Joins: altbashi (~altbashi@replaced-ip)
1378[05:43:03] *** Quits: Guest78848 (~koma@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1379[05:43:16] *** Joins: Tempesta (Tempesta@replaced-ip)
1380[05:43:43] *** Parts: eggshen80 (~user01@replaced-ip)
1381[05:44:17] *** Quits: CmndrSp0ck (~fabian@replaced-ip) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
1382[05:44:41] <unborn> ,v ruby-zip
1383[05:44:42] <judd> Package: ruby-zip on amd64 -- jessie: 1.1.6-1; jessie-security: 1.1.6-1+deb8u1; sid: 1.2.0-1.1; stretch: 1.2.0-1.1
1384[05:44:47] *** Joins: koma_ (~koma@replaced-ip)
1385[05:44:47] <unborn> :)
1386[05:45:23] *** Parts: piratepete (~root@replaced-ip)
1387[05:46:45] *** Quits: fmerges (~fmerges@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1388[05:47:24] *** Joins: eggshen80 (~user01@replaced-ip)
1389[05:47:26] <piklu> stoney : Guacamole setup done, connected to XRDP, I love it.
1390[05:47:39] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
1391[05:47:42] <piklu> stoned : I need a lightweight environment now, kde is sucking
1392[05:48:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1624
1393[05:48:35] *** Quits: Niantl1 (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1394[05:49:49] *** Joins: piratepete (~root@replaced-ip)
1395[05:50:10] *** Quits: koma_ (~koma@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1396[05:50:51] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1397[05:50:51] *** Joins: Rusty1_ (~kanotix@replaced-ip)
1398[05:52:09] <stoned> replaced-url
1399[05:52:17] *** Joins: cluelessperson (~cluelessp@replaced-ip)
1400[05:52:20] *** Joins: kini (~kini@replaced-ip)
1401[05:52:48] *** Joins: koma_ (~koma@replaced-ip)
1402[05:53:01] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1403[05:53:03] *** Joins: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip)
1404[05:53:03] *** Joins: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip)
1405[05:54:34] *** Joins: Klaus_D1eter_ (~klaus@replaced-ip)
1406[05:55:09] *** Quits: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye~)
1407[05:55:31] *** Joins: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip)
1408[05:55:33] *** Quits: imunsie (~imunsie@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1409[05:55:42] *** Joins: Cabanoss- (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip)
1410[05:57:16] *** Quits: Klaus_Dieter (~klaus@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1411[05:57:16] *** Klaus_D1eter_ is now known as Klaus_Dieter
1412[05:57:54] *** Quits: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1413[05:58:23] *** Quits: HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1414[05:58:24] *** Quits: JohnA (~john@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1415[05:58:48] *** Quits: HugsWont1etgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1416[05:59:15] *** Quits: eggshen80 (~user01@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1417[05:59:32] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1418[05:59:32] *** Cabanoss- is now known as Cabanossi
1419[06:00:03] *** Quits: koma_ (~koma@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1420[06:01:06] *** Quits: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1421[06:01:27] *** Joins: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip)
1422[06:01:32] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1423[06:02:18] *** Quits: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1424[06:02:36] *** Quits: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1425[06:02:57] *** Joins: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip)
1426[06:03:04] *** Joins: koma_ (~koma@replaced-ip)
1427[06:05:38] *** Joins: thunderrd__ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip)
1428[06:06:10] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1429[06:08:01] *** Quits: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1430[06:09:13] *** Quits: mnemonic (~semeion@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)
1431[06:09:44] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
1432[06:11:03] *** Quits: moetuning (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1433[06:12:26] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1434[06:12:43] <somiaj> piklu: xfce or lxde are the lightest of the desktop enviroments, after that you can look into window managers.
1435[06:13:23] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep)
1436[06:13:37] *** Joins: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip)
1437[06:13:38] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
1438[06:14:28] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1439[06:14:50] *** Joins: HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip)
1440[06:18:09] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1441[06:18:16] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1442[06:19:04] *** Joins: NewEd (~NewEd____@replaced-ip)
1443[06:19:28] *** Quits: smithscott (~smithscot@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1444[06:25:01] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1445[06:25:04] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1446[06:25:56] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip)
1447[06:26:16] *** Joins: imunsie (~imunsie@replaced-ip)
1448[06:26:33] *** Quits: altbashi (~altbashi@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
1449[06:26:44] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1450[06:27:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
1451[06:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1618
1452[06:28:12] <aZz7eCh> lxde is what lubuntu uses yeah? very light indeed.
1453[06:28:24] *** Joins: muhannad (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
1454[06:28:35] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1455[06:28:36] <aZz7eCh> if i wasn't so happy in gnome3 ... :P
1456[06:29:07] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1457[06:29:08] *** Quits: artificial (~artificia@replaced-ip) (Quit: artificial)
1458[06:29:46] *** Joins: thecha (~Burwi@replaced-ip)
1459[06:31:18] *** Quits: jealousmonk (~leon@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1460[06:31:49] *** Joins: paranoids (~markus@replaced-ip)
1461[06:32:16] *** Joins: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip)
1462[06:34:01] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1463[06:34:23] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
1464[06:34:48] <stoned> replaced-url
1465[06:35:00] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip)
1466[06:35:06] <aZz7eCh> lawl far out
1467[06:36:25] *** Joins: altbashi (~altbashi@replaced-ip)
1468[06:36:40] <stoned> 2x 60" and 4x 19" under
1469[06:36:48] *** Quits: chomwitt1 (~chomwitt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1470[06:36:49] *** Joins: raiden (~raydan@replaced-ip)
1471[06:36:51] <aZz7eCh> replaced-url
1472[06:37:17] *** Parts: raiden (~raydan@replaced-ip)
1473[06:37:31] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
1474[06:37:44] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
1475[06:38:01] *** Quits: ffatman (~ffamousff@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1476[06:38:20] *** Quits: uNmowed|2 (~Mayu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1477[06:38:57] *** Quits: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip) (Quit: "You picked the wrong kite to run away with!")
1478[06:39:01] <stoned> aZz7eCh: I am inside the now.
1479[06:39:12] <stoned> replaced-url
1480[06:39:22] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip) (Quit: Saliendo)
1481[06:40:10] <stoned> I just can't stand all the goofy things you have to do w/ a mouse.
1482[06:40:31] <stoned> plus, xmonad is a great wm.
1483[06:40:43] <stoned> urxvt is a great terminal.
1484[06:41:05] <stoned> what more does one need? goofy menus? panels? for what? I don't get it.
1485[06:41:22] *** Joins: spacebison (~bison@replaced-ip)
1486[06:41:58] <tomg2> i3 and/or dwm will probably get me from window maker
1487[06:42:00] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep)
1488[06:42:14] *** Joins: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip)
1489[06:42:21] *** Quits: altbashi (~altbashi@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
1490[06:43:48] *** Joins: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip)
1491[06:44:06] <piklu> stoned : what do I need to do for adding a user to x11, it seems other users can't login
1492[06:44:40] <stoned> no idea.
1493[06:44:49] <stoned> how are you connecting?
1494[06:45:14] *** Quits: Alam_Squeeze (alam@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1495[06:46:33] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1496[06:49:08] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1497[06:49:23] *** Joins: Taz (~OS-28236@replaced-ip)
1498[06:49:46] *** Joins: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip)
1499[06:49:48] *** Joins: Whitesquall (~user@replaced-ip)
1500[06:50:01] *** Joins: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip)
1501[06:50:01] *** Quits: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1502[06:50:01] *** Joins: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip)
1503[06:50:23] <piklu> stoned : using xrdp
1504[06:53:28] *** Quits: Rusty1_ (~kanotix@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1505[06:54:09] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip)
1506[06:54:09] *** Quits: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1507[06:54:09] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip)
1508[06:55:00] *** Quits: Taz (~OS-28236@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1509[06:55:01] *** Quits: The`Unforgiven (~alabalism@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Bhaur Hack Team (##replaced-url
1510[06:55:01] *** Quits: tomg2 (~tomg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1511[06:55:56] *** Quits: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye~)
1512[06:56:58] *** ByteStorm is now known as SmoHKing
1513[07:00:31] *** Quits: muhannad (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Quit: muhannad)
1514[07:01:23] *** Joins: rivdo (~rivdo@replaced-ip)
1515[07:01:34] *** Quits: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1516[07:02:15] *** Quits: rivdo (~rivdo@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1517[07:04:45] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
1518[07:04:49] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
1519[07:05:18] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
1520[07:06:12] *** Quits: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip) (Quit: cyborg-one)
1521[07:06:18] <n___> is there a BSD-like securelevel sysctl in Linux current?
1522[07:06:27] <n___> There used to be one dictated in a sysfs file
1523[07:09:43] *** Quits: Bercik (~Yotsuba@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1524[07:14:25] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
1525[07:16:24] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l1 (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1526[07:16:45] *** Joins: wolfpython (~wolf@replaced-ip)
1527[07:16:48] *** Quits: PryMar56 (~chmearl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1528[07:17:36] *** Quits: paranoids (~markus@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1529[07:18:26] *** Joins: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip)
1530[07:19:30] *** Joins: RebelCoderRU (~Yuriy@replaced-ip)
1531[07:19:32] *** Quits: wolf__ (~wolf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1532[07:19:34] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1533[07:20:28] *** Quits: md5sum_ (~skrill@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1534[07:21:03] *** Joins: toadstar (~bison@replaced-ip)
1535[07:22:15] *** Joins: La09x09 (~codfectio@replaced-ip)
1536[07:22:22] *** Quits: spacebison (~bison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1537[07:22:40] *** Joins: Bercik (~Yotsuba@replaced-ip)
1538[07:25:33] *** Joins: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip)
1539[07:25:55] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1540[07:26:13] *** Joins: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip)
1541[07:27:01] *** Joins: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip)
1542[07:28:47] <La09x09> how to get redshift in panel in mate
1543[07:29:02] <La09x09> since redshift-gtk is not available in debian repo
1544[07:29:38] *** Quits: fishsticks (~JP@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1545[07:30:12] *** Joins: jakew02 (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1546[07:30:21] *** Parts: jakew02 (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1547[07:30:26] *** Joins: remo (~remo@replaced-ip)
1548[07:32:00] *** Joins: jeffspef_ (~Jeff@replaced-ip)
1549[07:32:36] *** Quits: jeffspef_ (~Jeff@replaced-ip) (Quit: I'm outta here!)
1550[07:34:56] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1551[07:35:31] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1552[07:36:34] *** Joins: akash_ (uid150251@replaced-ip)
1553[07:36:38] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
1554[07:37:03] <somiaj> ,v gtk-redshift
1555[07:37:04] <judd> Package: gtk-redshift on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7-2; jessie: 1.9.1-4; stretch: 1.11-1; sid: 1.11-1
1556[07:37:09] <somiaj> La09x09: you mean that ^^?
1557[07:37:41] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
1558[07:37:46] <somiaj> that is the name in wheezy/jessie, in stretch/sid it is a transitional package that points to redshift-gtk
1559[07:37:52] <La09x09> somiaj, thanks a lot!.
1560[07:37:59] <La09x09> somiaj, I thought it was redshift-gtk :P
1561[07:38:07] <La09x09> so kept searching without a luck!
1562[07:39:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +q *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.63.141.204.116
1563[07:39:37] *** Quits: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1564[07:42:33] *** Joins: likcoras (~likcoras@replaced-ip)
1565[07:43:27] *** SmoHKing is now known as Cl0udN9ne
1566[07:43:27] *** Quits: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1567[07:43:32] *** Joins: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip)
1568[07:44:51] *** Quits: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
1569[07:45:03] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1570[07:46:03] *** Joins: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
1571[07:46:39] *** Quits: bins (~bins@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1572[07:48:05] *** Joins: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip)
1573[07:49:56] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1574[07:50:18] *** Joins: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip)
1575[07:50:27] *** Joins: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip)
1576[07:51:02] *** Joins: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip)
1577[07:55:38] *** Joins: reev (~reev@replaced-ip)
1578[07:56:24] *** Joins: Jan2 (kvirc@replaced-ip)
1579[07:56:25] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1580[07:57:16] *** Quits: stu_meat (~stu_meat@replaced-ip) (Quit: All your IRC are belong to ZNC)
1581[07:57:16] *** Quits: tripkin (~tripkin@replaced-ip) (Quit: All your IRC are belong to ZNC)
1582[07:59:01] *** Quits: Jan2 (kvirc@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1583[07:59:21] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
1584[08:00:45] *** Joins: Jan\\ (~kvirc@replaced-ip)
1585[08:03:49] *** Quits: Jan\\ (~kvirc@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1586[08:04:36] *** Joins: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip)
1587[08:06:12] *** Quits: supersoju (~ajones@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1588[08:07:42] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
1589[08:08:00] *** Quits: nothingnew (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1590[08:10:13] *** Joins: muhannad (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
1591[08:13:25] *** Quits: imunsie (~imunsie@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1592[08:14:05] *** Joins: stu_meat (~stu_meat@replaced-ip)
1593[08:14:18] *** Joins: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip)
1594[08:14:24] *** Quits: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1595[08:14:24] *** Joins: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip)
1596[08:14:24] *** Quits: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1597[08:14:24] *** Joins: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip)
1598[08:14:25] <hk238> hello
1599[08:15:02] <hk238> I'm trying to get a newer version of cmake, is that likely to result to problems? I don't remember things so well
1600[08:15:08] *** Joins: tripkin (~tripkin@replaced-ip)
1601[08:15:08] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
1602[08:15:48] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1603[08:16:52] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
1604[08:16:52] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1605[08:16:52] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
1606[08:16:59] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1607[08:17:03] *** Joins: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip)
1608[08:17:08] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1609[08:17:24] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1610[08:18:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1625
1611[08:18:09] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
1612[08:19:43] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1613[08:20:08] *** Joins: supersoju (~ajones@replaced-ip)
1614[08:20:46] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1615[08:21:55] *** Quits: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1616[08:24:57] *** Joins: SleepingBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip)
1617[08:25:00] *** SleepingBeans is now known as SugoiBeans
1618[08:25:08] *** Quits: SugoiBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1619[08:25:08] *** Joins: SugoiBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip)
1620[08:25:08] *** Quits: SugoiBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1621[08:25:08] *** Joins: SugoiBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip)
1622[08:25:20] *** Quits: clopez (~tau@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1623[08:25:26] *** Joins: overyander (~Jeff@replaced-ip)
1624[08:27:08] *** Quits: rafalcpp_ (~racalcppp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1625[08:28:29] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1626[08:29:32] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip)
1627[08:29:42] <ghormoon> hi, how should I ensure net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables is 0 when it doesn't apply on boot? I have to call manually sysctl -p later, which is sometimes not so convinient :)
1628[08:30:05] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1629[08:30:38] *** Quits: hk238 (5e166caf@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
1630[08:33:17] *** Quits: c0rwin (~zglozman@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1631[08:34:54] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1632[08:35:51] *** Joins: c0rwin (~zglozman@replaced-ip)
1633[08:35:55] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1634[08:41:45] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1635[08:42:30] *** Joins: clopez (~tau@replaced-ip)
1636[08:46:01] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1637[08:46:25] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1638[08:47:55] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
1639[08:48:47] *** Joins: ShalokShalom_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1640[08:51:03] *** Quits: ShalokShalom (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1641[08:51:55] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip)
1642[08:53:05] *** Joins: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1643[08:53:57] *** Quits: Agent (uid41384@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1644[08:57:28] *** Joins: AstroHacker82 (~kenny-ray@replaced-ip)
1645[08:58:09] *** Parts: AstroHacker82 (~kenny-ray@replaced-ip)
1646[08:59:26] *** Quits: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1647[09:00:48] *** Quits: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1648[09:02:16] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1649[09:03:53] *** Quits: th_ (~th@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1650[09:08:51] *** Joins: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip)
1651[09:09:11] <somiaj> ghormoon: how are you trying to set it at boot?
1652[09:14:44] *** Joins: Jan2 (kvirc@replaced-ip)
1653[09:15:48] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1654[09:17:15] *** Joins: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip)
1655[09:17:43] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip)
1656[09:20:12] *** Joins: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip)
1657[09:20:46] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1658[09:22:17] *** Joins: crayon (~x@replaced-ip)
1659[09:23:37] <ghormoon> somiaj: well, it's in sysctl.conf, but not applied. if I sun sysctl -p after the system boots, it applies correctly
1660[09:24:09] *** Joins: daniel (~daniel@replaced-ip)
1661[09:24:09] *** Parts: daniel (~daniel@replaced-ip)
1662[09:24:38] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
1663[09:25:48] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip)
1664[09:26:41] *** Joins: seen_dot (~daniel@replaced-ip)
1665[09:27:07] *** Quits: loeken (~lknfree@replaced-ip) (Quit: Reconnecting)
1666[09:27:24] *** Joins: lkn (~lknfree@replaced-ip)
1667[09:27:41] *** Joins: gk-1wm-su (~jircii@replaced-ip)
1668[09:27:48] *** Quits: gk-1wm-su (~jircii@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1669[09:28:05] *** Joins: shalok (~shalok@replaced-ip)
1670[09:28:33] *** Quits: MadHezz (MadHezz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1671[09:29:13] *** Joins: gk_1wm_su (~333333333@replaced-ip)
1672[09:29:52] *** Joins: goTAN (~goTAN@replaced-ip)
1673[09:30:01] *** Joins: scream (~scream@replaced-ip)
1674[09:30:35] *** usersiis is now known as userro
1675[09:32:31] *** Joins: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip)
1676[09:33:28] *** Quits: gk_1wm_su (~333333333@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
1677[09:38:31] *** Quits: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: schu-r)
1678[09:38:53] *** Joins: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1679[09:39:30] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1680[09:40:28] *** Joins: quesada_ (~quesada@replaced-ip)
1681[09:43:01] *** Quits: k0nsl (~k0nsl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1682[09:43:13] *** Joins: k0nsl (~k0nsl@replaced-ip)
1683[09:43:13] *** Quits: k0nsl (~k0nsl@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1684[09:43:13] *** Joins: k0nsl (~k0nsl@replaced-ip)
1685[09:44:02] *** Joins: ee2455 (~ee2455@replaced-ip)
1686[09:44:12] *** Quits: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1687[09:44:12] *** Quits: thecha (~Burwi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1688[09:44:45] *** Quits: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1689[09:44:49] *** Joins: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip)
1690[09:45:12] *** Joins: TsukiRa (~fpob@replaced-ip)
1691[09:45:43] *** Joins: z0ran (~z0ran@replaced-ip)
1692[09:46:11] *** Joins: gomoran_ (~gomoran@replaced-ip)
1693[09:47:24] *** Joins: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip)
1694[09:47:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eir
1695[09:47:33] *** eir sets mode: -qo *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.63.141.204.116 eir
1696[09:47:35] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1697[09:48:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1632
1698[09:48:55] *** Joins: Kapitalist (~Kapitalis@replaced-ip)
1699[09:51:54] *** Joins: lithie (uid45836@replaced-ip)
1700[09:52:40] *** Joins: moetuning (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
1701[09:52:48] *** Quits: moetuning (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1702[10:01:00] *** Joins: abs (~abs@replaced-ip)
1703[10:02:22] *** Joins: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip)
1704[10:04:00] *** Quits: ClassicSC (~sam@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1705[10:04:33] *** Quits: abishai (~abs@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1706[10:05:13] *** Joins: SmearedBeard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip)
1707[10:05:47] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1708[10:06:15] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1709[10:06:43] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
1710[10:06:47] *** Quits: scoobert1on (~tom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1711[10:08:13] *** Quits: remo (~remo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1712[10:08:28] *** Joins: remo (~remo@replaced-ip)
1713[10:10:01] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip)
1714[10:10:28] <quesada_> does the installer offer encryption of /home?
1715[10:11:03] <nkuttler> you can configure encrypted partitions
1716[10:11:19] <nkuttler> so, if you do that and put home on one, yes
1717[10:12:37] <ghormoon> maybe he asks about encfs like mint etc. offers, but yes, you can encrypt whole partition with luks (I'd personaly prefer that)
1718[10:12:44] *** Joins: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip)
1719[10:12:54] <quesada_> ok
1720[10:13:01] <quesada_> I don't know much about it
1721[10:13:15] <quesada_> I want something simple that will survive kernel upgrades
1722[10:13:51] <nkuttler> quesada_: kernel upgrades hardly matter
1723[10:14:26] <nkuttler> luks has been working for more than a decade now
1724[10:14:49] <quesada_> so luks >> encfs, which is what the installers use?
1725[10:15:35] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1726[10:16:22] *** Joins: Dreaman (~deb@replaced-ip)
1727[10:18:00] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip)
1728[10:18:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1638
1729[10:18:23] <ghormoon> well only advantage of encfs I can think of is that multiple users can use the same partition and have their own passwords, but if it is personal machine, I'd go luks
1730[10:18:42] <quesada_> thanks ghormoon
1731[10:18:48] *** Quits: d0nn1e (~d0nn1e@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1732[10:20:08] *** Joins: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip)
1733[10:20:35] *** Joins: UUID00 (~UUID00@replaced-ip)
1734[10:21:05] *** Joins: d0nn1e (~d0nn1e@replaced-ip)
1735[10:22:26] *** Joins: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip)
1736[10:25:27] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1737[10:26:12] *** Joins: veek (~veek@replaced-ip)
1738[10:26:45] *** Joins: Envil (~envil@replaced-ip)
1739[10:31:18] *** Quits: seen_dot (~daniel@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1740[10:32:03] *** Quits: reev (~reev@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1741[10:32:41] *** Joins: moetunes (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
1742[10:36:44] *** CtrlC- is now known as CtrlC
1743[10:36:44] *** Quits: CtrlC (~CtrlC@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1744[10:36:44] *** Joins: CtrlC (~CtrlC@replaced-ip)
1745[10:37:47] *** Joins: Doow (~Karl@replaced-ip)
1746[10:38:40] *** Joins: zxd (86bfe846@replaced-ip)
1747[10:38:41] <zxd> Hi
1748[10:38:52] <zxd> I am getting nss_getpwnam: name '0' does not map into domain xxxx.xxxx.com
1749[10:38:55] <zxd> any ideas why
1750[10:42:33] *** Joins: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip)
1751[10:43:40] *** Joins: gk_1wm_su (~222222222@replaced-ip)
1752[10:44:37] *** Quits: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1753[10:45:06] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
1754[10:45:24] *** Quits: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1755[10:45:35] *** Quits: SmearedBeard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1756[10:48:04] *** Quits: gk_1wm_su (~222222222@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
1757[10:49:42] *** Joins: BadSappa (~BadSnappa@replaced-ip)
1758[10:50:33] *** Joins: pikaro__ (~pikaro@replaced-ip)
1759[10:53:44] *** Quits: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1760[10:53:45] <pikaro__> hi! are there any versions of checkinstall that properly save your settings for a particular package? it's extremely annoying for anything complicated to reenter them over and over again if anything goes wrong during the process, which it often does.
1761[10:55:08] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1762[10:56:03] *** Joins: albmolina (~weechat@replaced-ip)
1763[10:56:15] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1764[10:58:26] *** Quits: safe (~safe@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1765[10:59:28] *** Joins: Dissolution (~Dissoluti@replaced-ip)
1766[11:00:22] *** Joins: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
1767[11:00:27] *** Joins: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip)
1768[11:01:49] *** Joins: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip)
1769[11:01:49] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip)
1770[11:02:15] <pikaro__> ah nice, this patch works: replaced-url
1771[11:03:35] *** Quits: magnulu (~magnulu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1772[11:05:49] *** Joins: magnulu (~magnulu@replaced-ip)
1773[11:06:22] *** Quits: mendi (5c52790f@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
1774[11:06:22] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip)
1775[11:07:24] *** Quits: icez (~zeci@replaced-ip) (Quit: icez)
1776[11:08:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1645
1777[11:08:05] *** rozie_ is now known as rozie
1778[11:08:41] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1779[11:09:28] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
1780[11:10:25] *** Quits: WizJin (WizJin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1781[11:11:05] *** Quits: eri451 (~eri@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1782[11:11:17] *** Joins: eri451 (~eri@replaced-ip)
1783[11:11:20] *** Quits: testi (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1784[11:11:43] *** Joins: urchin__ (~urchin@replaced-ip)
1785[11:12:24] *** Joins: ilSt (~prana@replaced-ip)
1786[11:15:12] *** Quits: urchin_ (~urchin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1787[11:16:15] *** Joins: saka (~john@replaced-ip)
1788[11:17:41] *** Quits: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit!)
1789[11:18:16] *** Joins: miczac (~miczac@replaced-ip)
1790[11:18:38] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1791[11:20:01] *** Joins: sherm (~mthurston@replaced-ip)
1792[11:20:02] *** Quits: pikaro__ (~pikaro@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1793[11:21:43] *** Joins: fifi-v (~user@replaced-ip)
1794[11:22:10] *** Joins: testi (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1795[11:23:44] *** Joins: Guifle (~Guifle@replaced-ip)
1796[11:23:53] *** Joins: permafleek (chimmychan@replaced-ip)
1797[11:24:28] *** Joins: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip)
1798[11:25:34] *** Quits: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1799[11:26:04] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1800[11:26:14] *** Joins: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip)
1801[11:26:14] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1802[11:26:14] *** Joins: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip)
1803[11:26:34] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1804[11:27:26] *** Joins: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip)
1805[11:27:27] *** Quits: b (~coffee@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1806[11:27:36] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
1807[11:27:51] *** Quits: muhannad (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Quit: muhannad)
1808[11:29:27] *** Quits: catsup (d@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1809[11:29:36] *** Joins: catsup (~d@replaced-ip)
1810[11:29:40] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1811[11:29:51] *** Joins: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip)
1812[11:30:31] *** Quits: catsup (~d@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1813[11:30:53] *** Joins: catsup (d@replaced-ip)
1814[11:32:36] *** Joins: t0mmy (~tprrt@replaced-ip)
1815[11:32:40] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1816[11:33:10] <fifi-v> I'm running Debian Jessie on a MacBook Air, the WIFI connection is much weaker on Linux. Is there a way to improve it? Googling tells me it's to do with the wireless driver, but all information I found is Arch related. Any suggestion?
1817[11:33:33] <La09x09> fifi-v, why would you even run linux instead of macOS?
1818[11:33:48] <La09x09> on a macbook*
1819[11:34:01] *** Joins: MinoNa (~MinoNa@replaced-ip)
1820[11:34:08] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1821[11:35:24] <n4dir> fifi-v: you sure want to add the info which chipset you have got and which connection-manager you use.
1822[11:36:18] <n4dir> my workflow is "lspci" and then enter "chipset +debian" in a searchengine of choice. Usually that leads me to the debian wiki
1823[11:37:36] *** Quits: ptv (~tigrisvul@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1824[11:38:37] <fifi-v> n4dir: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)
1825[11:38:38] *** Parts: MinoNa (~MinoNa@replaced-ip)
1826[11:38:58] *** Joins: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip)
1827[11:39:28] <fifi-v> I'm runing i3 on xfce4, I usually use nmtui-connect as my connection manager.
1828[11:39:35] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1829[11:40:14] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip)
1830[11:40:42] <n4dir> fifi-v: i can't help with wireless. (i got a broadcam too, and i do know a) there is a debian wiki page and b) there are several drivers and c) i sometimes got problems too). But like said: i am not the right person for wireless. Good luck
1831[11:41:35] *** Joins: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip)
1832[11:41:50] *** Joins: kwiir (~kwiir@replaced-ip)
1833[11:41:52] <fifi-v> I found this wiki page, replaced-url
1834[11:42:34] *** Quits: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1835[11:43:01] <n4dir> good luck
1836[11:44:02] *** Quits: kwiir (~kwiir@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
1837[11:44:52] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
1838[11:45:18] *** Parts: fifi-v (~user@replaced-ip)
1839[11:45:27] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip)
1840[11:46:57] *** Quits: oaaao (~oaao@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1841[11:48:20] *** Quits: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1842[11:48:30] *** Joins: Otani (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip)
1843[11:48:39] *** Parts: albmolina (~weechat@replaced-ip)
1844[11:48:56] *** Joins: oaao (~oaao@replaced-ip)
1845[11:49:58] *** Joins: NewKingKong71 (uid216648@replaced-ip)
1846[11:50:41] *** Quits: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1847[11:50:46] <NewKingKong71> Hey, is it safe to use testdisk to another partition or should i use a different drive?
1848[11:51:11] <NewKingKong71> For recover files deleted in another partition
1849[11:52:03] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip)
1850[11:53:38] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip)
1851[11:53:42] *** Joins: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip)
1852[11:56:20] *** Quits: Anarchic` (~Anarchic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1853[11:56:20] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1854[11:56:39] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip)
1855[11:56:43] *** Quits: Hennke (~henrikf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1856[11:56:53] *** Joins: jrgpfoo (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1857[11:57:00] <NewKingKong71> Anyone knows? I don't have an external drive. I only have a 16gb pendrive, while i need to recover gb60
1858[11:57:00] <jrgpfoo> hey, when is stretch coming out?
1859[11:57:16] <missmbob> couople of months probably
1860[11:57:16] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip)
1861[11:57:17] *** Joins: bolt (r00t@replaced-ip)
1862[11:57:54] <missmbob> or more. when the green light goes green. replaced-url
1863[11:58:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1654
1864[11:58:04] *** Joins: llorephie (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1865[11:58:08] <GNU\colossus> those of you running their own mail service, which anti-spam solutions (shipping in Debian) do you use? since dspam was dropped from jessie, I'm having a hard time to choose.
1866[11:58:44] *** Joins: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
1867[11:58:50] *** Joins: Hennke (~henrikf@replaced-ip)
1868[11:58:56] <camh> jrgpfoo: stretch was frozen 4 weeks ago. historical freeze times can be found at replaced-url
1869[11:58:59] *** Joins: Anarchic (~Anarchic@replaced-ip)
1870[11:59:19] <camh> make your own guess how long the freeze will be
1871[12:00:15] *** RamPage_ is now known as RamPage
1872[12:00:16] *** Quits: RamPage (~R@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1873[12:00:16] *** Joins: RamPage (~R@replaced-ip)
1874[12:00:43] <jrgpfoo> wow I didn't realize the freeze could be hundreds of days long. various news articles made it sound like the release was "imminent"
1875[12:00:56] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
1876[12:02:42] *** Joins: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
1877[12:03:16] *** Joins: sappel (~sappel@replaced-ip)
1878[12:04:38] *** Joins: moetuned (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
1879[12:07:05] *** Quits: ilSt (~prana@replaced-ip) (Quit: All e Lui ha)
1880[12:07:05] *** Quits: moetunes (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1881[12:07:28] *** Quits: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1882[12:08:01] *** Quits: _C_P_ (~aaa@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1883[12:09:23] <NewKingKong71> Anyone can help me?
1884[12:10:13] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1885[12:11:13] *** Quits: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit!)
1886[12:11:27] *** Quits: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1887[12:11:38] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip)
1888[12:11:46] *** Quits: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1889[12:11:56] *** Joins: eSko (~Sig@replaced-ip)
1890[12:12:14] <eSko> replaced-url
1891[12:12:21] *** Joins: moetuning (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
1892[12:12:22] *** Quits: eSko (~Sig@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1893[12:12:28] *** Joins: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip)
1894[12:12:37] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip)
1895[12:12:43] <NewKingKong71> No
1896[12:13:07] *** Quits: Dissolution (~Dissoluti@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1897[12:14:17] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
1898[12:14:30] *** Quits: pencilandpaper (~penciland@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
1899[12:15:12] *** Quits: moetuned (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1900[12:16:19] *** Joins: iNCoNFuN (~inconfun@replaced-ip)
1901[12:16:23] *** Joins: liquidxd_ (~liquidxd@replaced-ip)
1902[12:16:52] *** Joins: alphastrom (~alphastro@replaced-ip)
1903[12:17:09] *** Joins: paranoids (~markus@replaced-ip)
1904[12:17:22] *** Quits: Hennke (~henrikf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1905[12:18:05] *** Quits: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1906[12:18:12] <Shadow_7_> testdisk, or at least photorec will recover up until the point that you run out of space. Without changing the source drive. Now if that drive is failing and not just corrupted, don't use that. Otherwise get a bigger drive, they're cheap these days.
1907[12:19:49] <NewKingKong71> Shadow_7_: i have 2 partition. I was asking if i can recover files deleted on partition 1 with testdisk on partition
1908[12:19:54] <NewKingKong71> Is it safe?
1909[12:19:55] <Shadow_7_> NewKingKong71: Also, I don't know if you can advance past the point that it runs out of space.
1910[12:20:21] <Shadow_7_> It would be safe to do said things on a dd copy of the drive
1911[12:20:24] <tdn> I am upgrading from debian 7 to debian 8. During grub-pc configuration, I was asked a question about which devices to install grub on. I checked all available as I was unsure and that seemed the safe choice. Then grub install failed. I have the original question and my response + lsblk + the error message here: replaced-url
1912[12:20:47] <NewKingKong71> But i only have a 16gb pendri
1913[12:21:06] <NewKingKong71> I need to recover 60gb of pure gtaV modded
1914[12:21:12] *** Joins: Prunus (~Prunus@replaced-ip)
1915[12:21:12] *** Quits: Prunus (~Prunus@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1916[12:21:12] *** Joins: Prunus (~Prunus@replaced-ip)
1917[12:21:24] <Shadow_7_> NewKingKong71: You could combine several smaller drives into one big one with lvm and other things. Or use an nfs mount, although networks, even gigabit are slow as molasses
1918[12:21:38] *** Quits: NewEd (~NewEd____@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1919[12:22:06] <NewKingKong71> But i only have that drive
1920[12:22:29] <n4dir> tdn: i would assume you want to install grub to /dev/sda (a question mark here ... no clue about lvm, raid and similar voodoo)
1921[12:22:37] <Shadow_7_> If only there was a man page for friends. *sigh*
1922[12:22:44] *** Joins: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip)
1923[12:23:17] <NewKingKong71> Wut?
1924[12:23:41] <tdn> n4dir, I would think grub needs to be loaded before lvm and raid is happening
1925[12:23:49] *** Quits: zxd (86bfe846@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1926[12:23:55] <n4dir> tdn: i would think the same, but am not sure.
1927[12:24:02] <Guifle> hello, can you help me please? I cannot make Samba work
1928[12:24:06] *** Quits: Vorpal (~Vorpal@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1929[12:24:14] <NewKingKong71> Well, i can redownload everything in about 3 days, so i want to know if it worth to try to recover in another partition from the one where ive deleted gta
1930[12:24:18] <tdn> n4dir, but if you are right, that means it should be safe to continue, right? Because grub did not seem to fail on sda and sdb
1931[12:24:20] <n4dir> if no one has a "do it exactly like that", i would simply try /dev/sda , tdn
1932[12:24:38] <Shadow_7_> tdn: grub-pc is legacy??? not grub2. I tend to use another grub on another disc to boot the install. And then install grub to the / according to mount
1933[12:24:41] *** Quits: monpoulpe (~monpoulpe@replaced-ip) (Quit: quit)
1934[12:24:47] <tdn> n4dir, the server is 2000km away from me so I would like to be sure that it does boot
1935[12:24:53] <n4dir> tdn: i never did such, i install it to only one device. i would think so
1936[12:25:04] <tdn> Shadow_7_, I have no idea, I just use what is installed
1937[12:25:17] <NewKingKong71> I think ill try
1938[12:25:20] <n4dir> tdn: ah, i see. Then wait for someone who knows 100% for sure. try & error is not a good approach then
1939[12:25:26] <Shadow_7_> tdn: Sometimes when it's a flash drive or whatnot you have to --force the grub to install. # grub -f /dev/sdXYZ
1940[12:25:42] *** Quits: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1941[12:25:43] <tdn> Shadow_7_, did you see the linked images?
1942[12:26:10] <tdn> Shadow_7_, this is HDDs in md raid-1 with lvm on top
1943[12:26:25] <tdn> Shadow_7_, lsblk is even included in the images
1944[12:26:26] <Shadow_7_> tdn: yes... 2x 3tb drives, and a lvm one.
1945[12:26:46] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1946[12:26:47] <tdn> Shadow_7_, exactly
1947[12:26:50] <Shadow_7_> tdn: blkid might help clear up what's there
1948[12:27:36] <Shadow_7_> partitioning for > 2TB requires GPT
1949[12:28:12] <tdn> Shadow_7_, is that a problem for grub? I would assume GPT is in place if that is required because this system has been working and booting fine for years. :)
1950[12:28:23] *** Joins: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip)
1951[12:28:26] <tdn> Shadow_7_, and I just want it to continue working and booting after upgrade to debian 8 :)
1952[12:28:42] <tdn> Shadow_7_, not sure what to do with blkid
1953[12:28:46] <Shadow_7_> GPT maintains it's stuff in multiple places so a traditional MBR install doesn't hurt it (much).
1954[12:28:53] <Shadow_7_> as far as grub goes
1955[12:29:20] <tdn> There seems to be GPT on /dev/sda and sdb
1956[12:29:21] <Shadow_7_> tdn: blkid lists your drives / partitions and usable bits like UUID / LABEL stuffs
1957[12:29:44] <tdn> Shadow_7_, yes, but what do I use that for in this context? :)
1958[12:30:25] *** Quits: sherm (~mthurston@replaced-ip) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
1959[12:30:32] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip)
1960[12:30:39] <Shadow_7_> you only need grub on one bootable device. Which could be a usb stick and relatively unrelated
1961[12:30:41] *** Joins: C_P (~aaa@replaced-ip)
1962[12:30:48] *** Quits: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1963[12:31:06] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1964[12:31:21] <NewKingKong71> What's the percentage of recovery files? If i run testisk in a different partition, the partition where i deleted files, should be untouched, right?
1965[12:31:33] <tdn> Shadow_7_, sure, but does this mean that when I selected all devices, and it did not seem to fail on sda and sdb, then both of these are bootable and booting will work and it is safe to continue?
1966[12:31:44] <n4dir> uh, well, from the top of my head you will also need to be sure that the PC boots from that device. So you will want to install grub to the device it boots from per default
1967[12:32:14] <tdn> NewKingKong71, please only work on a disk image and not the actual disk
1968[12:32:16] <Shadow_7_> tdn: well, the MBR basically points at the /boot/ of where you where when you installed grub.
1969[12:32:43] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1970[12:32:58] <Shadow_7_> I tend to select NONE on that screen, and use grub-install && update-grub on the CLI
1971[12:33:03] <NewKingKong71> But i can't
1972[12:33:07] <tdn> Shadow_7_, ok, so does this mean that when I selected all devices, and it did not seem to fail on sda and sdb, then both of these are bootable and booting will work and it is safe to continue?
1973[12:33:14] <NewKingKong71> Is there a possibility to success?
1974[12:33:25] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
1975[12:33:33] <Shadow_7_> tdn: only the last one might be relavent to booting if you select all
1976[12:33:51] <tdn> Shadow_7_, the last one? /dev/md0?
1977[12:33:55] *** Joins: Grimsley (~justin@replaced-ip)
1978[12:34:05] <Shadow_7_> and it could be problematic if any disk does not use traditional MBR / GPT partitioning
1979[12:34:05] <teraflops> tdn: it looks like md0 is a sw raid, if yes install grub in both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
1980[12:34:15] *** Joins: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip)
1981[12:34:24] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
1982[12:34:25] *** Quits: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1983[12:34:32] <tdn> teraflops, md0 is software raid, yes.
1984[12:34:54] <tdn> teraflops, as far as I understand, grub did install on sda and sdb. So it should be safe to continue, right?
1985[12:35:05] <Shadow_7_> software by lvm? zfs? ???
1986[12:35:12] <tdn> Shadow_7_, md
1987[12:35:14] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip)
1988[12:35:19] <Shadow_7_> hardware?
1989[12:35:21] <tdn> Shadow_7_, seen in 'lsblk'
1990[12:35:22] <teraflops> yeah, anyway you can always fix it using the installer iso
1991[12:35:44] <n4dir> teraflops: the problem is the server is not locally accessible
1992[12:36:05] <NewKingKong71> ?
1993[12:36:10] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1994[12:36:30] <teraflops> n4dir: then he can wait forever until he makes a decision…
1995[12:36:32] <Shadow_7_> One issue is that it has to be a /boot/ location that grub knows how to read. Otherwise I don't know much about raids
1996[12:36:46] <n4dir> lol.
1997[12:37:42] *** Joins: lethu_ (~lethu@replaced-ip)
1998[12:38:00] <n4dir> tdn: no one you can contact via phone, email, etc ? (in case it goes south ...)
1999[12:38:53] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2000[12:38:58] *** Quits: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2001[12:39:02] <Shadow_7_> I mostly keep grub on a usb stick. So when windows or other OSes mess up the MBR, I can still boot the linux
2002[12:39:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
2003[12:39:17] <teraflops> tdn: if you dont believe what I said (which is fine since you must not trust random guys on the internet), go search for info about "install grub in sw raid"
2004[12:39:54] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
2005[12:39:59] *** Quits: sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2006[12:40:23] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
2007[12:41:11] *** Quits: lethu (~lethu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2008[12:42:06] <tdn> teraflops, I already chose to continue :)
2009[12:42:10] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2010[12:42:30] *** Joins: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
2011[12:42:33] <tdn> n4dir, no, not on a Sunday
2012[12:42:36] <n4dir> fingers crossed ...
2013[12:44:33] <n4dir> tdn: do you have to reboot at all (before tomorrow?)
2014[12:45:25] *** Parts: ee2455 (~ee2455@replaced-ip)
2015[12:46:24] <tdn> n4dir, yes
2016[12:46:36] <n4dir> k, then good luck
2017[12:46:39] *** Joins: Cassiopaya (~Discovery@replaced-ip)
2018[12:47:26] <tdn> n4dir, thanks. :)
2019[12:47:46] *** Quits: saka (~john@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2020[12:49:58] *** Joins: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip)
2021[12:50:29] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
2022[12:50:38] *** lethu_ is now known as lethu
2023[12:50:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
2024[12:52:35] *** Quits: RickXy (~zncadmin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025[12:53:20] *** Joins: AndroUser (~androirc@replaced-ip)
2026[12:54:29] *** Joins: plantfood (~hello@replaced-ip)
2027[12:54:48] *** AndroUser is now known as donalstrump
2028[12:55:11] *** donalstrump is now known as donald_trump
2029[12:55:18] *** Quits: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2030[12:55:56] *** Joins: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip)
2031[12:56:09] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2032[12:57:43] *** Joins: WeiJunLi (~weijunli@replaced-ip)
2033[12:57:50] *** Quits: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2034[13:00:02] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
2035[13:01:13] *** Joins: OS-26479 (~OS-26479@replaced-ip)
2036[13:01:23] *** Parts: OS-26479 (~OS-26479@replaced-ip)
2037[13:02:00] <Guifle> hello, I cannot transfer files from host to guest machine. I am totally new to this. can you please help?
2038[13:03:15] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2039[13:03:15] <Shadow_7_> If you can network between them you can use nc to transfer a single file
2040[13:03:55] <Guifle> Shadow_7_ I have been trying to network between them with all the suggestions I found online, but none worked so far
2041[13:03:56] *** Quits: RebelCoderRU (~Yuriy@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2042[13:04:15] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2043[13:04:18] <n4dir> guest and host of what? Virtualbox? qemu? etc ...
2044[13:04:28] <Guifle> n4dir, qemu-kvm
2045[13:04:30] *** Joins: newcoder (~newcoder@replaced-ip)
2046[13:04:38] <Shadow_7_> three parts to networking, an interface with an IP, a route, and a firewall
2047[13:04:51] *** Parts: newcoder (~newcoder@replaced-ip)
2048[13:05:01] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip) (Quit: buh bye!)
2049[13:05:08] <Shadow_7_> breakage in any one breaks all
2050[13:05:21] <n4dir> Guifle: i got no experience with qemu (networking), but there are how-to's out there, the one from ubuntu is good, iirc
2051[13:05:26] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2052[13:05:43] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip)
2053[13:05:48] <n4dir> many do use qemu though, so you can also just wait
2054[13:06:00] <donald_trump> I announce every one to use Openvms and throw nazi version of unix a.k.a Linux out. Details here: replaced-url
2055[13:06:09] *** Parts: donald_trump (~androirc@replaced-ip)
2056[13:06:10] *** Joins: RickXy (~zncadmin@replaced-ip)
2057[13:06:49] <n4dir> or try this:
2058[13:06:52] <n4dir> !qemu-kvm
2059[13:06:52] <dpkg> Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM) is a full <virtualization> solution for Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. Packaged as qemu-kvm since Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". See replaced-url
2060[13:06:58] *** Quits: llorephie (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: llorephie)
2061[13:07:08] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2062[13:07:34] *** Quits: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2063[13:08:03] <Guifle> I've been wrestling with the samba thing, and ssh, no avail. should be very simple. but as beginner, something went wrong
2064[13:11:04] <Guifle> if you check online, it is so easy, right click folder, select share etc..no, it isn't
2065[13:12:40] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2066[13:13:26] *** Parts: Guifle (~Guifle@replaced-ip)
2067[13:15:06] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2068[13:15:58] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2069[13:18:39] *** rysiek|pl is now known as p1orekf
2070[13:18:52] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2071[13:18:53] *** p1orekf is now known as rysiek|pl
2072[13:20:53] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2073[13:21:36] *** Joins: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip)
2074[13:21:46] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2075[13:23:40] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
2076[13:24:10] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2077[13:24:57] *** XeonSquared is now known as XenonSquared
2078[13:25:08] *** Joins: nikoma (~nikoma@replaced-ip)
2079[13:25:08] *** Quits: nikoma (~nikoma@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2080[13:25:08] *** Joins: nikoma (~nikoma@replaced-ip)
2081[13:25:37] *** Joins: smontschi (mechfrog@replaced-ip)
2082[13:26:05] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
2083[13:26:29] *** XenonSquared is now known as XeonSquared
2084[13:27:25] *** Joins: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip)
2085[13:29:08] *** Quits: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2086[13:30:49] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2087[13:31:34] *** Quits: TuxShells (~TuxShells@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2088[13:32:31] *** Joins: TuxShells (~TuxShells@replaced-ip)
2089[13:33:31] *** Joins: N4N0488 (~falken@replaced-ip)
2090[13:33:35] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip) (Quit: ☮ out)
2091[13:34:34] *** Quits: crayon (~x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2092[13:34:41] *** Joins: jrgpfoo1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2093[13:34:47] *** Quits: camh (~camh@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
2094[13:34:48] *** Joins: tomg2 (~tomg@replaced-ip)
2095[13:34:59] *** Joins: camh (~camh@replaced-ip)
2096[13:35:24] *** Joins: refresher (~refresher@replaced-ip)
2097[13:35:28] *** Quits: jrgpfoo (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2098[13:35:28] *** jrgpfoo1 is now known as jrgpfoo
2099[13:35:53] *** Cl0udN9ne is now known as Hyp3ri0n
2100[13:35:54] <refresher> hello everyone, I have a banal problem with permissions. I want to open a block device for readonly-binary reading as user - and obviously I am getting "Permission Denied". Is there a way to ask the user for password, and when correct, grant only once this opening the block device and read from it? After closing the descriptor, authentication should be required again
2101[13:36:25] <refresher> I am using plain python script with open("/dev/sda","rb")
2102[13:37:56] <refresher> Any suggestions how I can ask the user for password for privileged access and effectively open the device with the permissions necessary to read only once ? Further attempts to open the device for reading should again require authentication after the descriptor is closed.
2103[13:38:44] <refresher> For example - something like gnome-disks and opening a device for benchmark is what I am looking for
2104[13:39:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
2105[13:39:18] <refresher> anyone ?
2106[13:39:29] *** Quits: Atm0spher1c (~future@replaced-ip) (Quit: quit)
2107[13:39:32] *** Quits: N4N0488 (~falken@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2108[13:39:56] *** Quits: jrgpfoo (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2109[13:40:26] *** Joins: trifolio6 (~h@replaced-ip)
2110[13:40:31] *** Joins: jrgpfoo (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2111[13:40:33] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2112[13:40:46] <tdn> n4dir, Shadow_7_ teraflops: server came back up after reboot. Thanks for the help. :) PS. Should I do anything to get rid of grub-pc and get grub2 instead?
2113[13:42:03] *** Joins: lethu_ (~lethu@replaced-ip)
2114[13:42:45] *** Quits: lowin (~lowin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2115[13:43:00] <cybrNaut> anyone know if there is a debian package to protect nighttime users from blue light?
2116[13:43:30] <cybrNaut> I did an "aptitude search blue" and got only bluetooth stuff as far as I can tell
2117[13:43:31] <Blitzgewitter-> cybrNaut: redshift
2118[13:43:39] <cybrNaut> Blitzgewitter-: thanks, will check it out
2119[13:44:15] *** Joins: zhangweichinese (~zhangwei@replaced-ip)
2120[13:44:17] *** Joins: Hennke (~henrikf@replaced-ip)
2121[13:44:42] *** Quits: theraspberry (~theraspbe@replaced-ip) (Quit: rasp!.. your znc is down again!)
2122[13:44:48] *** Quits: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2123[13:44:49] <teraflops> tdn: if you have BIOS/MBR you want grub-pc
2124[13:45:02] *** Quits: plantfood (~hello@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2125[13:45:19] *** Quits: lethu (~lethu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2126[13:45:19] <tdn> teraflops, I have a BIOS. Is it possible to not have one? :)
2127[13:45:29] *** Joins: plantfood (~hello@replaced-ip)
2128[13:45:29] <teraflops> tdn: huh?
2129[13:45:35] *** Joins: ungali (~ungali@replaced-ip)
2130[13:46:01] <BluesKaj> teraflops, i have grub 2 with BIOS , it works fine
2131[13:46:14] *** Joins: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip)
2132[13:46:23] <teraflops> tdn: did you install grub-pc manually?
2133[13:46:47] <teraflops> I mean if you apt-get install grub it picks the one you need (ideally)
2134[13:47:07] *** Joins: theraspberry (~theraspbe@replaced-ip)
2135[13:47:24] *** Joins: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip)
2136[13:48:09] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip)
2137[13:49:17] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
2138[13:50:03] *** Joins: Foudrenboule (~Foudrenbo@replaced-ip)
2139[13:51:04] *** Joins: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip)
2140[13:51:50] *** Quits: jrgpfoo (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2141[13:54:24] *** Joins: semeion (~semeion@replaced-ip)
2142[13:54:57] *** Joins: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip)
2143[13:55:10] *** Joins: blotek (~blotek@replaced-ip)
2144[13:57:46] *** Joins: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip)
2145[13:58:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1661
2146[13:58:01] *** Joins: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip)
2147[13:58:08] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2148[13:58:09] *** Joins: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip)
2149[13:58:11] *** Joins: quinput_ (~Android@replaced-ip)
2150[13:59:00] *** Quits: quinput_ (~Android@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2151[13:59:15] *** Joins: jesuscmf (~jesuscmf@replaced-ip)
2152[13:59:32] *** Joins: Ugo_ (4e863a02@replaced-ip)
2153[14:00:00] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
2154[14:02:05] *** Joins: ioei (~ioei@replaced-ip)
2155[14:04:01] *** Joins: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip)
2156[14:04:18] *** Quits: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2157[14:05:32] *** Joins: barossanu (~alexgr@replaced-ip)
2158[14:05:32] *** Joins: alexgr (~alexgr@replaced-ip)
2159[14:05:43] *** Joins: davimore__ (~davimore@replaced-ip)
2160[14:06:00] *** Quits: camh (~camh@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2161[14:06:52] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2162[14:07:17] *** Quits: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])
2163[14:07:30] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2164[14:07:38] *** Joins: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip)
2165[14:07:44] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic
2166[14:07:49] <un9se0r> hi
2167[14:07:50] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
2168[14:08:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1669
2169[14:08:20] *** Quits: alexgr (~alexgr@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2170[14:08:45] *** Quits: davimore_ (~davimore@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2171[14:08:54] *** Quits: barossanu (~alexgr@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2172[14:09:34] *** Quits: akash_ (uid150251@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2173[14:11:08] *** Quits: TomTomTo1 (~henryk@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
2174[14:13:25] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip)
2175[14:13:25] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2176[14:14:15] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
2177[14:14:34] *** Joins: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip)
2178[14:14:46] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2179[14:15:25] *** Joins: is_null (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2180[14:15:46] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
2181[14:16:12] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
2182[14:16:18] *** Joins: badiane (~badiane@replaced-ip)
2183[14:16:57] *** Joins: [Brain] (~brain@replaced-ip)
2184[14:16:59] *** Quits: liquidxd_ (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2185[14:17:12] *** Quits: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2186[14:17:17] *** Joins: liquidxd_ (~liquidxd@replaced-ip)
2187[14:18:35] *** Quits: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2188[14:19:58] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2189[14:20:00] *** Joins: camh (~camh@replaced-ip)
2190[14:20:06] *** Joins: ltem (~panta@replaced-ip)
2191[14:20:42] *** Joins: TomTomTosch (~henryk@replaced-ip)
2192[14:21:52] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2193[14:22:50] *** Joins: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip)
2194[14:23:01] *** Quits: TuxShells (~TuxShells@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2195[14:24:32] *** Joins: TuxShells (~TuxShells@replaced-ip)
2196[14:24:37] *** Joins: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip)
2197[14:24:40] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2198[14:26:01] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Quit: cereal_poster)
2199[14:26:12] *** Quits: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2200[14:26:17] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
2201[14:26:17] *** Joins: dirgeable (~dirgeable@replaced-ip)
2202[14:26:22] *** Joins: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2203[14:27:04] <dirgeable> hi! im getting a 511 relaying denied error for incoming mail. outgoing mail is working fine. im using citadel for the mail server. wondering what to check
2204[14:28:06] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2205[14:28:25] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip)
2206[14:28:39] *** Joins: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip)
2207[14:28:46] *** Quits: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2208[14:28:58] *** Joins: somazero (~somazero@replaced-ip)
2209[14:29:05] *** Joins: miczac_ (~miczac@replaced-ip)
2210[14:29:16] *** Parts: Andy80 (~andy80@replaced-ip)
2211[14:29:53] *** Quits: Defaultti (defaultti@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat .)
2212[14:30:06] *** Quits: liquidxd_ (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2213[14:30:20] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
2214[14:30:20] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2215[14:30:22] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2216[14:30:35] *** Joins: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip)
2217[14:31:04] <shtrb> Anyone have an idea how to interact with SMS (with gnokii) over E8327h/e3372 without rooting the modem ?
2218[14:31:05] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip)
2219[14:31:23] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
2220[14:31:25] *** Joins: Defaultti (defaultti@replaced-ip)
2221[14:31:25] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2222[14:31:32] <Nekojimi> Hey, I'm getting 403 Forbidden trying to access the Debian Wiki. Is it down?
2223[14:32:00] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
2224[14:32:00] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2225[14:32:11] *** Quits: xingu (~xingu@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2226[14:32:20] <missmbob> Nekojimi: working here
2227[14:33:19] <shtrb> Nekojimi with the login page or something else ?
2228[14:33:32] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2229[14:33:36] *** Joins: zeroq (~ac0qq@replaced-ip)
2230[14:33:55] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
2231[14:34:31] *** Joins: xingu (~xingu@replaced-ip)
2232[14:36:05] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2233[14:37:32] *** Quits: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2234[14:37:34] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip)
2235[14:38:59] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip)
2236[14:39:38] *** Quits: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2237[14:40:02] *** Joins: davimore (~davimore@replaced-ip)
2238[14:40:04] *** Quits: miczac_ (~miczac@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2239[14:40:10] *** Quits: sorin-mihai (~sorin-mih@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2240[14:40:58] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip)
2241[14:42:05] *** Quits: quesada_ (~quesada@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2242[14:42:24] *** Quits: davimore__ (~davimore@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2243[14:43:31] *** Joins: davimore_ (~davimore@replaced-ip)
2244[14:43:49] *** Quits: ioei (~ioei@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2245[14:43:56] *** Quits: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2246[14:44:05] <unborn> ,v openxenmanager
2247[14:44:06] <judd> Package: openxenmanager on amd64 -- jessie: 0.r80+dfsg-4; sid: 0.r80+dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.r80+dfsg-4
2248[14:44:47] <stoned> is there a tool to automatically sync directories across disks
2249[14:45:03] <missmbob> cron+rsync
2250[14:45:09] *** Parts: zeroq (~ac0qq@replaced-ip)
2251[14:45:58] <stoned> that's what I figured, but any ready made backup tool like that?
2252[14:46:02] *** Joins: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip)
2253[14:46:14] *** Quits: davimore (~davimore@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2254[14:46:15] <stoned> i know they have wrappers around the basic tools etc.
2255[14:46:22] <stoned> (trying to avoid reinventing the wheel)
2256[14:47:18] *** Quits: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2257[14:49:11] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip)
2258[14:49:20] *** Joins: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip)
2259[14:51:10] <veek> stoned, amanda? it's meant for bkups
2260[14:51:22] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2261[14:51:31] *** Quits: surveyor (~surveyor@replaced-ip) (Quit: like a fart in the wind)
2262[14:51:38] *** SugoiBeans is now known as SugoiBeats
2263[14:51:52] *** SugoiBeats is now known as SugoiBeans
2264[14:51:53] <missmbob> you could just do a loop every x seconds, wait x seconds, if pgrep returns foo, exit, else rsync
2265[14:52:26] <stoned> yeah ok.
2266[14:52:28] *** Joins: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip)
2267[14:52:28] <stoned> fine.
2268[14:52:34] <stoned> <3
2269[14:52:58] <missmbob> :P
2270[14:53:57] *** Quits: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2271[14:54:08] *** lethu_ is now known as lethu
2272[14:54:30] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
2273[14:57:08] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2274[14:57:18] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2275[14:57:18] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2276[14:57:35] *** Joins: cruncher (~cruncher@replaced-ip)
2277[14:57:36] *** Joins: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip)
2278[14:58:42] *** Quits: jesuscmf (~jesuscmf@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2279[14:59:25] <unborn> ,v proxmox
2280[14:59:26] <judd> No package named 'proxmox' was found in amd64.
2281[14:59:50] <missmbob> !proxmox
2282[14:59:50] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
2283[15:00:08] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2284[15:00:15] *** Joins: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip)
2285[15:01:21] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip)
2286[15:02:32] *** Quits: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2287[15:03:22] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2288[15:04:03] *** Quits: Ugo_ (4e863a02@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
2289[15:06:37] *** Joins: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip)
2290[15:06:44] *** Joins: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip)
2291[15:07:01] *** Quits: davetk (~davetk@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2292[15:07:36] *** Quits: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2293[15:09:07] *** Quits: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2294[15:10:52] *** Quits: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2295[15:10:57] *** Joins: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip)
2296[15:11:46] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2297[15:11:57] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2298[15:11:57] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2299[15:12:22] *** Quits: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2300[15:13:03] *** Joins: soee (~soee@replaced-ip)
2301[15:13:50] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2302[15:14:53] *** Joins: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip)
2303[15:15:38] *** Joins: cerbere (~cerbere@replaced-ip)
2304[15:15:55] *** Quits: c0rwin (~zglozman@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2305[15:16:04] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
2306[15:16:04] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2307[15:16:04] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
2308[15:16:56] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2309[15:17:37] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2310[15:17:38] *** SugoiBeans is now known as SugoiBeats
2311[15:17:39] *** Quits: La09x09 (~codfectio@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2312[15:18:03] *** SugoiBeats is now known as SugoiBeans
2313[15:20:06] *** Joins: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip)
2314[15:20:43] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2315[15:21:08] *** Joins: Piraty (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2316[15:21:08] *** Joins: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip)
2317[15:21:24] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2318[15:22:38] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip)
2319[15:22:38] *** Joins: akash_ (uid150251@replaced-ip)
2320[15:23:03] *** Joins: LifeFrame_ (~smica@replaced-ip)
2321[15:23:44] *** Joins: Xanthor (~Xanthor@replaced-ip)
2322[15:23:48] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2323[15:24:15] *** Quits: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2324[15:24:20] *** Quits: Kapitalist (~Kapitalis@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2325[15:24:24] *** Joins: doogaille (~doogaille@replaced-ip)
2326[15:24:36] *** Quits: doogaille (~doogaille@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2327[15:24:48] *** Joins: doogaille (~doogaille@replaced-ip)
2328[15:24:49] *** Quits: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2329[15:25:25] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2330[15:25:54] *** Quits: plantfood (~hello@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2331[15:26:06] *** Quits: LifeFrame (~smica@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2332[15:26:11] *** Joins: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip)
2333[15:26:32] *** Joins: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip)
2334[15:28:15] *** Joins: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip)
2335[15:28:59] *** Joins: LifeFrame (~smica@replaced-ip)
2336[15:29:03] *** Joins: Whirlpool (~skrill@replaced-ip)
2337[15:29:18] *** Joins: Kapitalist (~Kapitalis@replaced-ip)
2338[15:31:59] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2339[15:32:25] *** Quits: LifeFrame_ (~smica@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2340[15:32:30] *** Joins: oldav (~oldav@replaced-ip)
2341[15:34:28] *** Joins: camh1 (~camh@replaced-ip)
2342[15:34:31] *** Joins: davetk (~davetk@replaced-ip)
2343[15:34:35] *** Quits: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2344[15:34:48] *** Joins: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip)
2345[15:35:05] *** Quits: bruce549 (~bruce549@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2346[15:35:29] *** Joins: saka (~john@replaced-ip)
2347[15:35:30] *** Joins: bruce549 (~bruce549@replaced-ip)
2348[15:36:08] *** Quits: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2349[15:36:37] *** Joins: Pr0metheus (~nezos@replaced-ip)
2350[15:36:43] *** Joins: jmd (~user@replaced-ip)
2351[15:37:08] *** Quits: camh (~camh@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2352[15:38:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1681
2353[15:38:39] *** Joins: lowin (~lowin@replaced-ip)
2354[15:38:52] *** Joins: LifeFrame_ (~smica@replaced-ip)
2355[15:40:25] <tdn> teraflops, did not install it manually. Was installed by the installer
2356[15:40:29] *** Quits: tdn (~tdn@replaced-ip) (Quit: reboot)
2357[15:40:32] *** Quits: LifeFrame (~smica@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2358[15:41:56] *** Quits: fearnothing (~nothing@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2359[15:42:24] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria ##replaced-url
2360[15:43:12] <DeaDSouL_> Hi, what kind of cables do I need to connect this motherboard replaced-url
2361[15:43:14] *** Joins: uNmowed|2 (~Mayu@replaced-ip)
2362[15:43:23] *** Quits: pwndave (~pwndave@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1 - ##replaced-url
2363[15:44:29] *** Joins: pwndave (~pwndave@replaced-ip)
2364[15:45:56] *** uNmowed|2 is now known as uNmowed
2365[15:45:57] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2366[15:46:04] *** Quits: Whirlpool (~skrill@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2367[15:46:33] *** Joins: bony (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2368[15:46:33] *** Quits: bony (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2369[15:46:33] *** Joins: bony (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2370[15:46:46] <Brigo> DeaDSouL_, i can't see how your questions is related to Debian.
2371[15:47:13] <stoned> ##hardware
2372[15:47:33] <DeaDSouL_> Brigo: heheh... debian used to be used as server... i thought someone here knows something :p
2373[15:48:16] *** Parts: oldav (~oldav@replaced-ip)
2374[15:49:36] *** Quits: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2375[15:50:10] *** Joins: CptHaddock_ (~CptHaddoc@replaced-ip)
2376[15:50:55] *** Joins: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip)
2377[15:52:06] *** Quits: TomTomTosch (~henryk@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
2378[15:52:34] <shtrb> DeaDSouL_: the bare minimum you need is the cabling of your powersupply , 8 SAS3 cables
2379[15:53:30] *** boser_ is now known as boser
2380[15:53:30] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2381[15:53:42] *** Joins: rsx (~dummy@replaced-ip)
2382[15:53:52] *** Joins: Throdne (~Throdne@replaced-ip)
2383[15:53:52] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
2384[15:53:52] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2385[15:53:52] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
2386[15:54:04] <DeaDSouL_> shtrb: can you tell me the model number of the sas3 cables... or a picture or anything... i'm totally noob at this
2387[15:54:44] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
2388[15:55:02] *** Quits: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2389[15:56:00] *** Joins: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip)
2390[15:58:52] *** Quits: meta-coder (~meta-code@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye.)
2391[15:59:24] *** Quits: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2392[16:00:24] *** Quits: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2393[16:00:40] *** Joins: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip)
2394[16:00:52] *** Quits: veek (~veek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2395[16:01:11] <shtrb> I just googled the info , you better talk with their/your techsupport (I looked what you have on the chassis and what you have on the motherboard )
2396[16:01:55] <shtrb> google says it's SFF-8643 but my google-foo skills may be rusty
2397[16:02:06] *** Quits: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2398[16:02:20] <shtrb> DeaDSouL_ ^
2399[16:03:08] *** Quits: lufeng (~lufeng@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2400[16:04:07] *** Joins: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip)
2401[16:04:52] *** postreAway is now known as postre
2402[16:05:33] *** Joins: k1ng_schm0e (~k1ng_schm@replaced-ip)
2403[16:06:52] *** Joins: SPF|Cloud (uid11755@replaced-ip)
2404[16:08:29] *** Joins: imunsie (~imunsie@replaced-ip)
2405[16:08:40] *** Joins: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip)
2406[16:10:45] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
2407[16:10:49] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2408[16:10:49] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
2409[16:17:04] *** Joins: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip)
2410[16:17:05] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2411[16:17:47] *** Joins: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip)
2412[16:18:16] *** Quits: lithie (uid45836@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2413[16:18:46] *** Joins: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip)
2414[16:20:07] *** Quits: xiaodong (~xiaodong@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2415[16:20:40] *** Quits: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2416[16:20:52] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip)
2417[16:21:27] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2418[16:22:04] *** Joins: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip)
2419[16:22:06] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip)
2420[16:22:36] *** Quits: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
2421[16:22:38] *** Joins: Doow_ (~Karl@replaced-ip)
2422[16:22:41] *** Joins: rly (~rly@replaced-ip)
2423[16:23:03] *** Joins: rptx (~user@replaced-ip)
2424[16:23:17] *** Joins: dunderproto (~dunderpro@replaced-ip)
2425[16:23:29] <rly> What's the name of the program which uses mime type mappings to select the right program to open a file?
2426[16:23:42] *** Quits: saka (~john@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2427[16:23:50] *** Joins: Lokke (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2428[16:24:02] <rly> I think on MacOSX there is "open", and IIRC on Debian it's called "see", but I just want to check that.
2429[16:24:17] *** Joins: Verity (~Verity@replaced-ip)
2430[16:24:22] *** Joins: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip)
2431[16:24:24] <Verity> How Hsad
2432[16:24:33] <Verity> How can I update VIM to support python?
2433[16:24:36] *** Joins: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
2434[16:24:45] <Verity> There is a lot of conflicting information online
2435[16:24:53] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
2436[16:24:58] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2437[16:25:08] *** Quits: Doow (~Karl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2438[16:25:18] <rly> Verity: you can build it from source (which is easy).
2439[16:25:24] <Verity> replaced-url
2440[16:25:26] <Verity> I'll try this
2441[16:25:32] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2442[16:25:32] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2443[16:25:36] <Verity> building from source is a bad choice if package is available from what I've read
2444[16:25:49] <FinalX> a/w 23
2445[16:25:51] <FinalX> oops
2446[16:26:05] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2447[16:26:14] <rly> Verity: sure, but if you are a heavy user, then the distribution package is often not what you want.
2448[16:26:26] *** Quits: un9se0r (~chatzilla@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2449[16:26:46] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2450[16:27:10] *** Quits: relaxed (~relaxed@replaced-ip) (Quit: ⠠⠵)
2451[16:27:23] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2452[16:27:24] *** Quits: kayamm (~km@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2453[16:28:33] <rptx> hey everybody. I'm running testin in virtualbox. After updgrading today. I'm no longer able to start x with a normal user
2454[16:28:36] <rptx> root works ok
2455[16:29:06] <rptx> it failes with enableIOports operation no permited
2456[16:29:53] *** Parts: Ghosty (~Ghosty@replaced-ip)
2457[16:29:56] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2458[16:30:12] <rptx> vesa(0) cannot read int vect (where I think the problem is)
2459[16:30:23] <psychoticwarrior> jizzla
2460[16:30:34] *** Joins: Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@replaced-ip)
2461[16:30:48] *** Joins: relaxed (~relaxed@replaced-ip)
2462[16:30:50] *** Quits: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2463[16:30:55] *** Joins: tsuyubo (~Bo@replaced-ip)
2464[16:31:19] *** Quits: jannic (~jan@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2465[16:31:45] <rptx> Is this a known problem?
2466[16:31:45] *** Quits: tsuyubo (~Bo@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2467[16:32:28] *** Quits: lowin (~lowin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2468[16:32:46] *** Quits: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2469[16:34:13] *** Joins: TomTomTosch (~henryk@replaced-ip)
2470[16:34:21] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
2471[16:34:38] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip)
2472[16:34:52] *** Quits: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2473[16:34:56] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep)
2474[16:35:12] *** Joins: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip)
2475[16:35:18] *** Joins: cereal_poster_ (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
2476[16:36:29] *** Joins: c0rwin99 (~zglozman@replaced-ip)
2477[16:37:10] *** Joins: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip)
2478[16:37:34] *** Quits: c0rwin99 (~zglozman@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2479[16:37:40] *** Quits: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2480[16:38:36] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2481[16:38:44] *** Joins: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2482[16:39:31] *** Joins: meatpath (~meatpath@replaced-ip)
2483[16:39:32] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2484[16:40:09] *** Quits: cereal_poster_ (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2485[16:40:11] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
2486[16:40:16] *** Joins: q3aql (~q3aql@replaced-ip)
2487[16:40:24] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
2488[16:40:27] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2489[16:40:51] *** Quits: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2490[16:41:02] *** Joins: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip)
2491[16:41:10] *** Quits: smw_ (~smw@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2492[16:41:16] *** Quits: Verity (~Verity@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2493[16:41:32] *** Joins: Hercules (~Hercules@replaced-ip)
2494[16:42:22] *** Quits: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2495[16:42:24] *** postre is now known as postrecito
2496[16:42:30] *** Joins: Niantl1 (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
2497[16:42:37] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
2498[16:42:48] *** Quits: rsx (~dummy@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2499[16:43:11] *** Joins: fax (~fax@replaced-ip)
2500[16:43:45] *** Joins: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip)
2501[16:44:11] *** Quits: doubledutch (~esc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2502[16:44:28] *** Joins: jannic (~jan@replaced-ip)
2503[16:44:38] <dirgeable> hi! i have citadel installed on debian 8. outgoing mail works fine but incoming gets denied 511 relaying denied. what could be the problem? thanks!
2504[16:44:48] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
2505[16:44:53] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
2506[16:45:14] *** Quits: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2507[16:46:24] *** Joins: snowkrash (~sksk@replaced-ip)
2508[16:46:27] <snowkrash> hi
2509[16:46:41] <snowkrash> anyone ever did a gpu passthrough?
2510[16:47:04] <snowkrash> is this the right place to ask questions about it?
2511[16:47:16] *** Quits: zyl (~zyley@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2512[16:47:44] *** Joins: jealousmonk (~leon@replaced-ip)
2513[16:47:50] *** Quits: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2514[16:48:05] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2515[16:48:08] *** Quits: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2516[16:48:13] *** Joins: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip)
2517[16:48:15] *** Joins: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip)
2518[16:48:51] *** Quits: Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2519[16:50:05] *** Joins: Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@replaced-ip)
2520[16:50:40] *** Joins: Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip)
2521[16:50:47] *** Joins: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip)
2522[16:50:48] *** Quits: Otani (~Yukiteru@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2523[16:50:52] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip)
2524[16:51:22] *** Joins: Donquixote (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2525[16:52:00] *** Joins: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip)
2526[16:52:47] *** Joins: enn_ (~enn@replaced-ip)
2527[16:54:55] *** Quits: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2528[16:55:31] *** Joins: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip)
2529[16:56:15] *** Quits: bsilvereagle (~bsilverea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2530[16:56:20] *** Quits: WeiJunLi (~weijunli@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2531[16:56:48] *** Quits: k1ng_schm0e (~k1ng_schm@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2532[16:57:08] *** Quits: Niantl1 (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2533[16:57:22] *** Quits: snowkrash (~sksk@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2534[16:57:31] *** Quits: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip) (Quit: Zzeiss)
2535[16:57:32] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2536[16:58:00] *** Joins: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip)
2537[16:58:05] *** Quits: Foudrenboule (~Foudrenbo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2538[16:58:07] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2539[16:58:51] *** postrecito is now known as postre
2540[16:59:18] *** Joins: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip)
2541[16:59:55] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2542[17:00:06] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
2543[17:00:50] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2544[17:00:53] *** Joins: LifeFrame (~smica@replaced-ip)
2545[17:02:24] *** Quits: sander85 (~sander@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2546[17:02:53] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip)
2547[17:02:54] *** Joins: Alex___2 (~Alex@replaced-ip)
2548[17:03:00] *** Quits: Alex___2 (~Alex@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2549[17:03:26] *** Joins: Alex___2 (~Alex@replaced-ip)
2550[17:03:56] *** Quits: LifeFrame_ (~smica@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2551[17:04:01] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2552[17:06:02] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2553[17:06:17] *** Quits: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip) (Quit: Zzeiss)
2554[17:07:06] *** Quits: Hercules (~Hercules@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2555[17:07:06] *** Joins: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip)
2556[17:07:12] *** Joins: sander85 (~sander@replaced-ip)
2557[17:07:33] *** Quits: enn_ (~enn@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (##replaced-url
2558[17:08:36] *** Quits: dunderproto (~dunderpro@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
2559[17:08:51] *** Quits: Zzeiss (~wsy@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2560[17:08:53] *** Joins: Alex__ (~Alex@replaced-ip)
2561[17:09:22] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2562[17:11:15] *** Quits: khfeng (~khfeng@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.4 - ##replaced-url
2563[17:11:52] *** Joins: mkzee (~mkzee@replaced-ip)
2564[17:11:55] *** Quits: mkzee (~mkzee@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2565[17:12:15] *** Joins: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip)
2566[17:12:53] *** Quits: Alex___2 (~Alex@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2567[17:13:05] *** Quits: Donquixote (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2568[17:13:35] *** Quits: Mario_ (~Mario@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2569[17:14:29] *** Quits: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip) (Quit: C20H25N3O)
2570[17:17:40] *** Quits: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2571[17:18:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1675
2572[17:18:30] *** Joins: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip)
2573[17:19:16] *** SugoiBeans is now known as SleepingBeans
2574[17:20:03] *** Joins: WizJin (WizJin@replaced-ip)
2575[17:20:07] *** Quits: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2576[17:21:42] *** Joins: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2577[17:22:13] *** Joins: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip)
2578[17:22:14] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2579[17:22:26] *** Joins: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip)
2580[17:22:46] *** Quits: Dreaman (~deb@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2581[17:23:19] *** Joins: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip)
2582[17:23:22] *** Joins: Mario_ (~Mario@replaced-ip)
2583[17:23:29] *** Joins: bsilvereagle (~bsilverea@replaced-ip)
2584[17:23:40] *** Joins: kayamm (~km@replaced-ip)
2585[17:23:40] *** Quits: kayamm (~km@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2586[17:23:40] *** Joins: kayamm (~km@replaced-ip)
2587[17:24:03] *** Joins: jwd (~jwd@replaced-ip)
2588[17:24:20] *** Joins: GunshipPenguin (~GunshipPe@replaced-ip)
2589[17:25:13] *** Quits: GunshipPenguin (~GunshipPe@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2590[17:27:02] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2591[17:27:39] <dc123> how do I install a package from jessie in stretch?
2592[17:27:43] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip)
2593[17:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1684
2594[17:28:03] *** Joins: michiko (~root@replaced-ip)
2595[17:28:09] <jmd> dc123: dpkg ... and cross your fingers.
2596[17:28:34] *** Joins: hp (~hp@replaced-ip)
2597[17:28:39] <dc123> my package has a version in stretch main and another in jessie main i want the one from jessie jmd
2598[17:29:03] <jmd> Then download it and run dpkg
2599[17:29:34] <dc123> how do I download it
2600[17:29:34] *** Quits: akash_ (uid150251@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2601[17:29:58] *** Quits: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2602[17:30:16] <jmd> ftp, ssh, http .... ?
2603[17:30:37] *** Joins: m-H7 (~mathias@replaced-ip)
2604[17:30:57] <dc123> cant i apt-get install $repo $package or something
2605[17:31:47] <towo`> apt install package/jessie
2606[17:31:56] <towo`> or apt install package=version
2607[17:32:50] <dc123> it says that it couldnt find the package package
2608[17:32:51] <dc123> xD
2609[17:34:05] <towo`> you would need an entry for jessie in your sources
2610[17:34:10] <dc123> I did
2611[17:34:43] <towo`> if apt-cache policy package shows a jessie version, it would work
2612[17:34:45] *** Joins: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip)
2613[17:35:09] *** Joins: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip)
2614[17:36:02] *** Joins: Donquixote (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2615[17:38:43] *** Joins: Donquixote1 (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2616[17:39:46] *** Quits: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2617[17:39:59] *** Joins: RebelCoderRU (~Yuriy@replaced-ip)
2618[17:40:25] *** Joins: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2619[17:40:27] *** Joins: jasonsticks (~JP@replaced-ip)
2620[17:40:27] *** Quits: Donquixote (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2621[17:40:27] *** Donquixote1 is now known as Donquixote
2622[17:41:07] *** Quits: Lokke (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lokke)
2623[17:41:45] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
2624[17:41:57] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
2625[17:41:59] *** Joins: lowin (~lowin@replaced-ip)
2626[17:42:25] *** Joins: pos (~pos@replaced-ip)
2627[17:43:05] *** Quits: Avasz (~DCrawler@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2628[17:43:33] *** Quits: HurricaneHarry_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2629[17:44:05] *** Joins: HurricaneHarry (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2630[17:45:25] *** Quits: rly (~rly@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
2631[17:45:34] *** Quits: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2632[17:46:12] *** Joins: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2633[17:47:03] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2634[17:47:23] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2635[17:49:05] *** Quits: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2636[17:49:07] <rptx> So, I cloned a vm without X, installed VBox Guest additions, and it works now. Donno what happeneed
2637[17:49:13] *** Joins: Samsa_ (~m@replaced-ip)
2638[17:49:17] *** Quits: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Quit: muhannad_______)
2639[17:49:20] *** Joins: Defiano (~itt@replaced-ip)
2640[17:51:16] <Samsa_> hi. I don't actually know what "sound system" is running in my dist (default debian stable); but at the moment, and also in the past, its just making distorted noise. any ideas what I can do? the "sound system" seem to get upset when mute / un-mute, etc.
2641[17:51:18] *** Doow_ is now known as Doow
2642[17:52:08] *** Joins: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip)
2643[17:52:49] *** Joins: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2644[17:52:58] *** Joins: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2645[17:52:58] *** Quits: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2646[17:52:58] *** Joins: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2647[17:54:06] <Shadow_7_> Samsa_: if pulse over a network... clocks could be out of sync... if jackd or alsa, could be using the wrong period size.
2648[17:55:32] *** Joins: bemawi (~bemawi@replaced-ip)
2649[17:56:08] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Quit: regeneration...)
2650[17:56:28] *** Parts: NewKingKong71 (uid216648@replaced-ip)
2651[17:56:46] *** Quits: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2652[17:56:47] *** Quits: somazero (~somazero@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2653[17:58:11] *** Joins: user5346 (~pi@replaced-ip)
2654[17:58:24] *** Quits: Samsa_ (~m@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
2655[17:58:38] <user5346> How do I temporarily change the console font in console mode?
2656[17:58:40] *** Quits: trifolio6 (~h@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2657[17:58:46] *** Joins: Samsa_ (~m@replaced-ip)
2658[17:59:08] <Samsa_> (did I miss any response? my connection died)
2659[17:59:09] <user5346> I want to set it to terminus upon logging in.
2660[17:59:56] <Samsa_> Shadow_7_, allright,,, gonna check it closer...
2661[18:00:24] <Defiano> Where is chanell for package developer?
2662[18:00:46] *** Joins: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip)
2663[18:01:23] *** Joins: jemadux (~jemadux@replaced-ip)
2664[18:01:25] <Samsa_> ok, in /etc/init.d I only see also*, and no pulse* or jackd*... So I reckon I run alsa*
2665[18:01:47] *** Quits: michiko (~root@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2666[18:02:06] *** Quits: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2667[18:02:28] *** Joins: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip)
2668[18:02:58] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
2669[18:05:05] *** Joins: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip)
2670[18:05:11] <Samsa_> (actually it was pulse...)
2671[18:05:41] *** Quits: n1ce (~n1ce@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2672[18:06:02] *** Joins: otherMe (~otherMe@replaced-ip)
2673[18:06:11] *** Joins: lasdam (lasdam@replaced-ip)
2674[18:06:11] *** Quits: lasdam (lasdam@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2675[18:06:11] *** Joins: lasdam (lasdam@replaced-ip)
2676[18:06:34] *** Joins: n1ce (~n1ce@replaced-ip)
2677[18:06:42] <zykotick9> !tell Defiano about mentors
2678[18:06:50] *** Quits: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2679[18:06:58] *** Quits: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2680[18:07:55] *** Quits: liquidxd (~liquidxd@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2681[18:09:04] <Donquixote> When will Debian 9 stable come out?
2682[18:09:17] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2683[18:09:20] <missmbob> 3-4 months maybe
2684[18:09:38] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip)
2685[18:11:08] *** Quits: Ceber (~cerberus@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2686[18:11:15] <Samsa_> how can I restart pulseaudio? there is nothing in init.d/ it seems,,, I tried doing by sudo pulse,, but it didnt work
2687[18:11:22] <Samsa_> +it
2688[18:11:45] <missmbob> you dont. when it's needed it'll automatically start. and dont ever run it as root
2689[18:12:26] *** Quits: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2690[18:12:49] <Shadow_7_> Samsa_: pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start
2691[18:12:52] <Samsa_> missmbob, ok. wouldn't use root.. ok, will check if its works now
2692[18:13:05] <Shadow_7_> Samsa_: although by default it auto-restarts, so kill -9 works too
2693[18:13:23] <missmbob> kill -9 didnt change that. you have to set it to autospan first
2694[18:13:36] <Samsa_> Shadow_7_, ok,, did that,, but I could only kill it being root, but didn't want to restart being (root)... brb
2695[18:14:05] *** Quits: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2696[18:14:08] *** Quits: Cassiopaya (~Discovery@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2697[18:14:16] <Shadow_7_> autospawn is by default iirc
2698[18:14:45] *** Joins: nullbyte_ (~ghost@replaced-ip)
2699[18:14:47] *** Joins: jhutchins (~jonathan@replaced-ip)
2700[18:14:58] *** Quits: nullbyte_ (~ghost@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2701[18:15:06] *** Joins: KeRT (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2702[18:15:06] *** Quits: KeRT (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2703[18:15:06] *** Joins: KeRT (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2704[18:15:30] *** Quits: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2705[18:15:40] *** Joins: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip)
2706[18:16:28] *** Quits: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2707[18:16:28] *** KeRT is now known as TReK
2708[18:16:29] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2709[18:16:49] *** Quits: pos (~pos@replaced-ip) (Quit: pos)
2710[18:17:37] <jhutchins> Cross-grading to 64b really didn't work. Way to much 32b stuff still installed, and things are still trying to default to 32b versions. build-essential is very confused.
2711[18:17:38] *** Quits: jmd (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2712[18:18:02] *** Joins: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip)
2713[18:18:16] *** Joins: Ceber (~cerberus@replaced-ip)
2714[18:18:23] <snowkrash> is it normal that /media shows mylinuxlive folder without any media?
2715[18:18:48] <snowkrash> ... /media/usr/mylinuxlive/
2716[18:21:27] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2717[18:21:46] *** Quits: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
2718[18:21:58] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
2719[18:22:40] *** Quits: Alex__ (~Alex@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2720[18:22:48] *** Quits: jhutchins (~jonathan@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2721[18:23:18] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2722[18:23:48] *** Joins: ewew (~ewew@replaced-ip)
2723[18:23:57] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2724[18:24:21] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
2725[18:24:22] *** Joins: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
2726[18:24:48] <Defiano> I'm looking mentors from Poland
2727[18:25:01] *** Quits: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
2728[18:25:34] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip)
2729[18:25:40] *** Quits: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2730[18:26:45] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
2731[18:26:45] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2732[18:26:45] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
2733[18:27:35] *** Joins: aleph-TA (~aleph@replaced-ip)
2734[18:27:40] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2735[18:27:58] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2736[18:28:09] *** Quits: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
2737[18:28:09] *** Joins: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2738[18:28:09] *** Quits: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2739[18:28:09] *** Joins: TReK (~UnFaQ@replaced-ip)
2740[18:28:11] *** Joins: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip)
2741[18:29:15] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2742[18:29:15] *** Quits: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
2743[18:29:32] <aleph-TA> can anyone here help me out with a network namespace dns issue?
2744[18:29:58] *** Quits: th_ (~th@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2745[18:30:03] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2746[18:30:11] *** Quits: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2747[18:30:13] *** Parts: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2748[18:30:14] *** Joins: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip)
2749[18:30:20] *** Quits: g-k--1-w-m--s-u- (~111111111@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2750[18:30:32] *** Joins: quinput (~quinput@replaced-ip)
2751[18:31:21] *** Quits: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
2752[18:31:35] *** Quits: CptHaddock_ (~CptHaddoc@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2753[18:32:05] *** Quits: Defiano (~itt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2754[18:33:07] *** Joins: rr4 (~itt@replaced-ip)
2755[18:33:10] *** Joins: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip)
2756[18:33:18] *** Quits: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2757[18:33:21] *** Quits: Prunus (~Prunus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2758[18:33:26] *** Quits: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip) (Quit: bye.)
2759[18:33:32] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
2760[18:33:32] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2761[18:33:32] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
2762[18:33:42] *** Parts: rr4 (~itt@replaced-ip)
2763[18:34:28] *** Joins: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip)
2764[18:35:08] *** Quits: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2765[18:35:30] *** Joins: WeiJunLi (~weijunli@replaced-ip)
2766[18:36:13] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip)
2767[18:36:59] *** Joins: CptHaddock (~CptHaddoc@replaced-ip)
2768[18:37:41] *** Joins: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip)
2769[18:38:08] *** Quits: DeaDSouL_ (~deadsoul@replaced-ip) ()
2770[18:40:35] *** Quits: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2771[18:40:55] *** Joins: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip)
2772[18:41:41] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2773[18:41:45] *** Joins: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip)
2774[18:42:16] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip)
2775[18:42:32] *** Joins: commonivy (54fbb11d@replaced-ip)
2776[18:42:40] *** Quits: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2777[18:42:50] *** Joins: allenu (~allenu@replaced-ip)
2778[18:43:53] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip)
2779[18:45:30] *** Quits: stu_meat (~stu_meat@replaced-ip) (Quit: All your IRC are belong to ZNC)
2780[18:45:31] *** Quits: tripkin (~tripkin@replaced-ip) (Quit: All your IRC are belong to ZNC)
2781[18:45:58] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2782[18:46:31] *** Quits: commonivy (54fbb11d@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2783[18:46:45] *** Joins: kw21 (~kw21@replaced-ip)
2784[18:47:04] *** Quits: fooctrl (~havoc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
2785[18:47:35] *** Quits: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2786[18:49:20] *** Quits: AAS13_ (~AAS13@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2787[18:49:23] *** Joins: fooctrl (~havoc@replaced-ip)
2788[18:49:59] *** Quits: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip) (Quit: Olufunmilayo)
2789[18:50:17] *** Joins: stu_meat (~stu_meat@replaced-ip)
2790[18:50:47] *** Joins: tripkin (~tripkin@replaced-ip)
2791[18:51:28] *** Quits: Hennke (~henrikf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2792[18:51:41] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2793[18:51:57] *** Quits: lethu (~lethu@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2794[18:53:34] *** Quits: jasonsticks (~JP@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2795[18:54:00] <stoned> DeaDSouL: irc.oftc.net and go into #debian-mentors
2796[18:54:05] *** Joins: lethu (~lethu@replaced-ip)
2797[18:54:28] *** Joins: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
2798[18:54:32] <stoned> I mean nevermind.
2799[18:54:35] <stoned> He's gone.
2800[18:55:15] *** Joins: lukaso666 (~lukaso666@replaced-ip)
2801[18:56:48] *** Quits: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2802[18:58:10] *** Joins: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip)
2803[18:58:38] *** Joins: fhdrin (~fhdrin@replaced-ip)
2804[18:58:48] *** Joins: welpo (~welpo@replaced-ip)
2805[18:59:02] *** Joins: b3kN (~b3kN@replaced-ip)
2806[18:59:09] *** Quits: Old_Dog (~don@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2807[19:01:25] *** Quits: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2808[19:01:30] *** Joins: dkaz (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
2809[19:01:48] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2810[19:02:27] *** Quits: Artemis3 (~artemis3@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2811[19:02:34] *** Joins: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip)
2812[19:02:56] <Quatroking> okay so I have a big media library in ~/Library, and I want to add an extra harddrive soon. How can I make it so that folder is shared over multiple drives?
2813[19:04:13] *** Joins: dexte0195 (~dexter@replaced-ip)
2814[19:04:50] *** ApEtc_ is now known as ApEtc
2815[19:04:57] <Quatroking> or should I consider redoing my server, throwing the OS on an ssd and throwing the disks in a RAID?
2816[19:06:01] *** Joins: trifolio6 (~h@replaced-ip)
2817[19:06:11] <otherMe> hi guys, I'm trying to setup a vpn (auto starts openvpn) and redirect all trafic from wlan0 to eth0. I did that using bridge, which works without vpn, but when I connect VPN I lose DNS. Is bridge the best way of doing this? can you point me in the right direction to fix the DNS problem? thanks
2818[19:06:29] *** Quits: topyli (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit!)
2819[19:09:45] <teraflops> otherMe: you can do openvpn in bridge mode, I think the "I lose DNS" bit is unrelated though. just push DNS's. if yes, maybe your client is overwriting or ignoring it/them
2820[19:11:12] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2821[19:11:46] *** Quits: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2822[19:12:01] *** Joins: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip)
2823[19:12:36] <otherMe> teraflops, thanks. As soon I connected openvpn I can't ping google.com for example, but if I do 8.8.8.8 it's fine. Do I need to specify any parameter to openvpn or it should work as is?
2824[19:12:47] *** Quits: justJanne (~justJanne@replaced-ip) (Quit: So, if you care to find me, look to the western sky. As someone told me lately, everyone deserves a chance to fly.)
2825[19:12:48] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
2826[19:13:08] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2827[19:13:09] *** Joins: justJanne (~justJanne@replaced-ip)
2828[19:14:18] *** Quits: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2829[19:15:26] *** Parts: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip)
2830[19:15:43] <teraflops> otherMe: yep depending on your setup something like push "dhcp-option DNS 192.168.199.1"
2831[19:15:51] *** Quits: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2832[19:15:51] *** Joins: newbie22 (~newbie22@replaced-ip)
2833[19:16:24] <otherMe> teraflops: thanks I will try that
2834[19:16:30] <teraflops> np
2835[19:18:16] *** Joins: amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@replaced-ip)
2836[19:19:01] *** Joins: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip)
2837[19:21:32] *** Quits: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2838[19:22:01] *** Quits: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2839[19:22:03] *** Joins: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip)
2840[19:22:22] *** Joins: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip)
2841[19:22:23] <teraflops> otherMe: out of curiosity, you do openvpn in bridge mode or you just made a bridge outside openvpn?
2842[19:22:37] *** Joins: lithie (uid45836@replaced-ip)
2843[19:22:50] *** Joins: mda1 (~dedicate@replaced-ip)
2844[19:23:10] *** Quits: allenu (~allenu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2845[19:23:57] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2846[19:24:27] <otherMe> I guess was outside! I changed /etc/network/interfaces did the bridge between eth0 and wlan0 and then start openvpn. My ideia is to have hostapd running and all clients go out over vpn
2847[19:24:46] <teraflops> otherMe: that should work
2848[19:24:53] *** Quits: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
2849[19:25:11] *** Joins: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip)
2850[19:25:50] <otherMe> now that you asked that, should I do the bridge between wlan0 and tun0? [sorry networks is best :/]
2851[19:26:32] *** Quits: dexte0195 (~dexter@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2852[19:26:41] <otherMe> teraflops: thanks again
2853[19:27:12] <teraflops> np
2854[19:27:34] *** Quits: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2855[19:27:56] <teraflops> otherMe: well if I get what you want you have a wireless hotspot and want all the clients go though the vpn
2856[19:28:17] <otherMe> teraflops, correct
2857[19:28:24] <teraflops> you can do that way you can also do it using iptables
2858[19:28:28] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2859[19:28:37] *** Quits: SleepingBeans (uid188175@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2860[19:29:10] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2861[19:29:19] <otherMe> what is the difference or which method is preferable ?
2862[19:30:03] *** Joins: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip)
2863[19:30:06] *** Joins: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip)
2864[19:30:31] *** Quits: defaultnick (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2865[19:30:33] *** Joins: Katana_Steel (~androirc@replaced-ip)
2866[19:30:36] *** Quits: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2867[19:30:52] *** Joins: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip)
2868[19:31:12] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
2869[19:31:23] *** Joins: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip)
2870[19:31:26] <WeiJunLi> how do i get a newer version of e2fck?
2871[19:31:29] <WeiJunLi> e2fsck
2872[19:33:08] *** Joins: eternal-pain (~eternal-p@replaced-ip)
2873[19:33:28] *** Quits: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2874[19:34:06] *** Joins: johefernan (~joheferna@replaced-ip)
2875[19:36:46] *** Quits: dkaz (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Quit: dkaz)
2876[19:38:16] *** Quits: Ard1t (~ard1t@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2877[19:38:22] *** Joins: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip)
2878[19:39:28] *** Joins: Agent (uid41384@replaced-ip)
2879[19:39:51] *** Agent is now known as Guest85165
2880[19:40:08] *** Quits: Guest85165 (uid41384@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2881[19:40:08] *** Joins: Guest85165 (uid41384@replaced-ip)
2882[19:40:14] *** Guest85165 is now known as Agent
2883[19:42:01] *** Joins: Ard1t (~ard1t@replaced-ip)
2884[19:42:25] *** Ard1t is now known as Guest41306
2885[19:42:31] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
2886[19:43:27] *** Quits: w00dsman (~w00dsman@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2887[19:44:32] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2888[19:46:08] *** Joins: alpharray (~alpharray@replaced-ip)
2889[19:46:10] <alpharray> Hello
2890[19:46:48] *** Quits: aZz7eCh (~aZz7eCh@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2891[19:46:59] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip)
2892[19:48:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1690
2893[19:48:35] *** Quits: alpharray (~alpharray@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2894[19:48:45] *** Quits: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2895[19:48:50] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
2896[19:49:49] *** Joins: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip)
2897[19:50:00] *** Joins: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip)
2898[19:50:31] *** Joins: xzork (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2899[19:51:12] *** Joins: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip)
2900[19:51:31] *** Quits: goTAN (~goTAN@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving...)
2901[19:51:34] *** Quits: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2902[19:51:51] *** Joins: Cassiopaya (~Discovery@replaced-ip)
2903[19:54:25] *** Joins: maven27145 (82e246ea@replaced-ip)
2904[19:55:34] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
2905[19:55:35] <maven27145> Hello, I'm trying to add a my/a user to the sudo'ers file, but when I try to sudo something it says the user is not in the sudoers file.
2906[19:56:32] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2907[19:56:46] *** Quits: amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2908[19:57:05] <Shadow_7_> the user also needs to be in the sudo group
2909[19:57:12] *** Quits: Piraty (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2910[19:57:40] <maven27145> Shadow_7_: Which means?
2911[19:58:27] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2912[19:58:46] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
2913[19:58:57] *** Quits: aaro (~aaro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2914[19:59:15] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2915[19:59:36] <missmbob> sudo adduser username sudo ; then log out and back in
2916[19:59:37] *** Quits: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2917[19:59:55] *** Joins: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip)
2918[20:00:37] <missmbob> logout username, not the user you used to add
2919[20:00:39] <maven27145> missmbob: I've already added the user with adduser {username} sudo, and it doesn't work.
2920[20:00:53] *** Joins: semyon (~semyon@replaced-ip)
2921[20:00:55] <missmbob> you *have* to log out and back in
2922[20:00:59] <Shadow_7_> maven27145: usermod if you go that route
2923[20:01:17] <maven27145> Okay, I'll try reboot again
2924[20:01:19] *** Quits: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2925[20:01:20] <maven27145> brb
2926[20:01:30] *** Quits: maven27145 (82e246ea@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
2927[20:03:57] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2928[20:04:24] *** Quits: civillian (~nick@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2929[20:04:41] *** Joins: civillian (~nick@replaced-ip)
2930[20:07:40] *** Quits: user5346 (~pi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2931[20:07:52] *** Joins: gautamsomani (~Adium@replaced-ip)
2932[20:07:55] *** Quits: gautamsomani (~Adium@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2933[20:07:56] *** Joins: sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@replaced-ip)
2934[20:08:00] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2935[20:08:10] *** Joins: gautamsomani (~Adium@replaced-ip)
2936[20:08:15] *** Quits: CptHaddock (~CptHaddoc@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2937[20:08:20] *** Joins: Rust3dCor3 (~Rust3dCor@replaced-ip)
2938[20:08:35] *** Joins: newbiekjhkjhkljh (~kvirc@replaced-ip)
2939[20:08:41] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> is there any reason why on linux when i set mode +x and am the owner of a binary that bash will throw a "command now found" error. its for wine. i run ./wine in the same directory.
2940[20:08:49] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> I'm running debian stretch
2941[20:08:53] *** Quits: fhdrin (~fhdrin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2942[20:09:20] <hassoon> newbiekjhkjhkljh: what?
2943[20:09:39] *** Quits: WeiJunLi (~weijunli@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2944[20:10:06] *** Quits: gautamsomani (~Adium@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2945[20:10:08] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2946[20:10:21] *** Joins: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip)
2947[20:10:39] <Shadow_7_> are you trying to run shutdown -h now ?
2948[20:10:54] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: so , I am running debian stretch :P I'm using playonlinux from both repo (at first) and the site (which is the same version), when it tries to run the POL wine it downloads, it gets a 'command now found' error, i tried to debug by going directly to the directory the exectuable was in, I ran chmod +x and ls -l, ls -l confirmed i have execute permissions and that I own the file and bash is
2949[20:10:57] <Katana_Steel> Did you use chmod +x [bin]?
2950[20:11:15] <Shadow_7_> because systemd changed shutdown. The modern equivalent is ... shutdown -H -P +0
2951[20:11:26] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: saying "command not found", there is no other wine exectuatble on the system, the package is removed
2952[20:11:32] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: yes lol
2953[20:11:42] *** Joins: emx (~emx@replaced-ip)
2954[20:11:45] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: don't let the named fool you lol
2955[20:11:55] <emx> i try to systemctl start wpa_supplicant@wlan0.service. /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant-wlan0.conf exists. systemd tells me that the service failed to start since unit wpa_upplicant@wlan0.service file not found. what could be the reason?
2956[20:12:09] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip)
2957[20:12:32] <hassoon> newbiekjhkjhkljh: in fact, i can hardly understand what's your problem
2958[20:12:40] <hassoon> your english and even the context are so broken
2959[20:12:46] <hassoon> sorry, good luck
2960[20:12:51] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: no actually its not
2961[20:13:11] <Katana_Steel> ./wine ChanSer
2962[20:13:14] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
2963[20:13:17] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: let me put this in words you understand. I'm running debian stretch (testing)
2964[20:13:24] <hassoon> newbiekjhkjhkljh: yeah and ?
2965[20:13:44] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: on the little itty bitty program, which is a compiled series of code packages.
2966[20:13:48] <Katana_Steel> What are you trying to run with wine?
2967[20:13:54] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: I am running play on linux
2968[20:14:02] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: it downloads a version of wine
2969[20:14:04] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: yes ty
2970[20:14:21] <hassoon> so he basically has a proble with wine and/or playonlinux, is that it ?
2971[20:14:24] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: and bash, even if the permissions are all set correctly throws an error "command not found"
2972[20:14:25] <hassoon> * problem
2973[20:14:40] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> hassoon: problem is i'm wondering if testing has a bug in its bash build at this moment
2974[20:14:56] *** Quits: newbie22 (~newbie22@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2975[20:15:05] <Katana_Steel> ./wine c:/wi
2976[20:15:14] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: that will throw the bash error mentioned
2977[20:15:46] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: i've only ever seen bash throw that error when +x permissions have not been granted
2978[20:15:59] <somiaj> or the command it not found in your $PATH
2979[20:16:17] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> somiaj: when you're not specifying its exact path that would be correct
2980[20:16:32] *** Quits: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2981[20:16:34] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2982[20:16:45] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> somiaj: see Katana_Steel's comment just now, that is how i'm trying to run it from inside the same directory
2983[20:17:07] <Katana_Steel> Is the wine in your current dir a shell script perhaps trying to execute system wine?
2984[20:17:21] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: nope, its a binary
2985[20:17:35] *** Quits: pavlushka (~pavlushka@replaced-ip) (Quit: See you on the other side.....)
2986[20:17:37] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: containing a symbol table of strings apparently as well
2987[20:18:06] *** Joins: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip)
2988[20:18:08] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
2989[20:19:56] *** Joins: allenu (~allenu@replaced-ip)
2990[20:20:34] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: I really wish we could pay package maintainers
2991[20:20:47] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: is there a donations page or anything that you are aware of ?
2992[20:21:06] *** Joins: user5346 (~pi@replaced-ip)
2993[20:21:07] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: don't want another microsoft, but rewarding contributors would be great
2994[20:21:31] <likcoras> Hi, what would be the most optimal way to detect whether a mouse is connected? I want to kill syndaemon & completely disable touchpad when I plug in a mouse, and restart syndaemon & enable touchpad when I unplug.
2995[20:22:00] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: i believe under syslog a usb descriptor event will occur if you do a tail -f /var/log/syslog
2996[20:22:21] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: most hardware connection events get dropped in there, like when you hotplug a hard drive
2997[20:22:49] <Katana_Steel> Only wine website I know of is replaced-url
2998[20:22:50] *** Quits: tieinv (~tieinv@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2999[20:23:27] *** Joins: CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@replaced-ip)
3000[20:23:32] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: ya, but playonlinux downloads binary builds of it. point is, even if i create a malformed binary, i THINK bash still tries to determine if it can be executed.
3001[20:23:45] <Katana_Steel> I don't know who's the debian maintained
3002[20:23:46] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> Katana_Steel: when you run it with an absolute path.
3003[20:23:48] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3004[20:24:20] *** Quits: moetuning (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip) (Quit: thisisapartmessage)
3005[20:24:39] <likcoras> newbiekjhkjhkljh: eh, so just grep logs? I was thinking more udev rules.
3006[20:24:43] *** Quits: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
3007[20:25:01] *** Joins: lewnidas_ (~leo@replaced-ip)
3008[20:25:05] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: I can tell you thats what i usually do and i just plug the device in after running tail -f to see it in realtime
3009[20:25:16] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: hold on.
3010[20:25:23] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
3011[20:26:15] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
3012[20:26:15] *** Quits: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip) (Quit: exit)
3013[20:26:20] *** Joins: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip)
3014[20:26:29] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
3015[20:27:45] *** Quits: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3)
3016[20:28:24] <likcoras> I am also trying to run a command when I plug in my external monitor, so figuring out udev would be best, two birds with one stone.
3017[20:28:28] *** Joins: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip)
3018[20:28:33] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: replaced-url
3019[20:28:41] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> it should look something like that
3020[20:28:42] *** Joins: jhutchins (~jonathan@replaced-ip)
3021[20:29:00] <jhutchins> Up and running in 64b, recovering environment.
3022[20:29:09] *** Joins: chrissl (~chris@replaced-ip)
3023[20:29:15] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> jhutchins: 64 kb ?
3024[20:30:10] *** Joins: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip)
3025[20:30:46] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: that will tell you if the system recognizes its been connected at least
3026[20:31:10] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: actually thats probably better.
3027[20:31:23] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: udev manages /dev
3028[20:31:42] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: i think that you will not see an entry there unless a module that creates one is loaded
3029[20:31:53] <likcoras> yeah, I remember setting it up once. Just lost the config and can't remember what I did.
3030[20:31:53] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3031[20:32:05] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: haha thats usually the way, eh ? lol
3032[20:32:18] *** Joins: paveman (~paveman@replaced-ip)
3033[20:32:33] *** Joins: gl-prout (~gl-prout@replaced-ip)
3034[20:32:34] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: i set up samba like 4 times in my life and i have to look up how to do it every time lol
3035[20:32:41] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> likcoras: and pxe
3036[20:32:53] <likcoras> And I had done it on arch, so not sure whether it would work on debian as well. Can you point me to some resource on writing udev rules?
3037[20:32:59] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> has anyone gotten efi boot from pxelinux to work btw ?
3038[20:33:11] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
3039[20:33:26] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> or is that being abandoned because hardware manufacturers are removing ethernet ports from a lot of laptops ?
3040[20:33:33] *** Quits: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3041[20:34:25] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> as part of their 'everything must be total crap and $0.25 for a jack and $5.00 for a controller is too expensive and we like people being able to snoop the airwaves for our crap' initiative ?
3042[20:35:24] <teraflops> newbiekjhkjhkljh: feel free to share your thoughts in #debian-offtopic
3043[20:35:27] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3044[20:35:41] <th_> i cant get past this (upgrading 6.0 to 7.0): replaced-url
3045[20:35:44] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip)
3046[20:35:50] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> teraflops: sorry, but subtract 2 lines :P what is the status of efi boot under pxelinux ?
3047[20:36:06] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> teraflops: does anyone use it or is it a dead project under debian ?
3048[20:36:28] <teraflops> did you try it?
3049[20:36:55] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> teraflops: yeah, and it seems i have it configured properly, but client connection tends to throw errors and it just bypasses it
3050[20:36:56] *** Quits: blueness (~blueness@replaced-ip) (Quit: blueness)
3051[20:37:05] *** Joins: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip)
3052[20:37:16] <psychoticwarrior> jiggla
3053[20:37:52] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> teraflops: course i'm working with ms nazis on a controlled network where i have the same conversations on irc.
3054[20:38:01] <newbiekjhkjhkljh> :P
3055[20:38:22] *** Joins: Streusel (~Anonymous@replaced-ip)
3056[20:39:16] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3057[20:39:16] *** Quits: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3058[20:39:32] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3059[20:41:34] *** Quits: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3060[20:41:48] *** Joins: foxpup (~puppy@replaced-ip)
3061[20:42:11] *** Quits: psychoticwarrior (~psychotic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3062[20:42:23] *** Quits: xzork (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: xzork)
3063[20:42:35] *** Quits: newbiekjhkjhkljh (~kvirc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium ##replaced-url
3064[20:43:51] *** Joins: johndeb (3200b742@replaced-ip)
3065[20:44:04] *** Quits: hiya (hiya@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3066[20:44:44] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip)
3067[20:44:50] <johndeb> Can someone remind me how to install Debian on a macbook pro? All I have is a macbook pro and a new ssd drive
3068[20:44:56] *** Quits: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3069[20:45:46] *** Joins: Donquixote1 (~Icedove@replaced-ip)
3070[20:45:59] *** Quits: otherMe (~otherMe@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3071[20:46:41] <JPT> boot from the installer iso and install it? :o
3072[20:46:52] *** Quits: Donquixote (~Icedove@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3073[20:46:52] *** Donquixote1 is now known as Donquixote
3074[20:47:06] <teraflops> JPT: so no existing macos installation? go install it :P
3075[20:47:16] *** Quits: johndeb (3200b742@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3076[20:47:46] <JPT> Why would i want to install mac os?
3077[20:49:14] *** Joins: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip)
3078[20:49:54] *** Quits: user5346 (~pi@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
3079[20:50:19] *** Quits: snowkrash (~snowkrash@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3080[20:50:25] *** Quits: foxpup (~puppy@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3081[20:50:32] <JPT> replaced-url
3082[20:50:41] *** Joins: druizz (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3083[20:51:27] *** Joins: anuxivm (~anuxi@replaced-ip)
3084[20:53:34] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3085[20:54:05] *** Quits: Whitesquall (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3086[20:57:04] *** Joins: ukko (~ukko@replaced-ip)
3087[20:59:33] *** Joins: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip)
3088[20:59:50] *** Quits: lewnidas_ (~leo@replaced-ip) ()
3089[20:59:55] *** Joins: troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@replaced-ip)
3090[20:59:57] *** Joins: Lope (~Lope@replaced-ip)
3091[20:59:57] *** Quits: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3092[21:00:02] *** Joins: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
3093[21:00:31] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
3094[21:00:37] *** Quits: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3095[21:01:18] *** Quits: In33dt0kn00w (~zer0err0r@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3096[21:02:10] *** Quits: UukGoblin (~jaa@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3097[21:02:48] *** Quits: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3098[21:04:23] *** Quits: S4M4R1T4N (~SaMaRiTaN@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3099[21:05:02] *** Quits: izual750 (~izual750@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
3100[21:05:08] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3101[21:06:07] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3102[21:06:44] *** Joins: murdoc (~murdoc@replaced-ip)
3103[21:07:21] *** Joins: T4ng10r (~Tanglor@replaced-ip)
3104[21:07:24] *** Quits: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3105[21:07:24] *** murdoc is now known as Murdoc_
3106[21:07:59] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
3107[21:08:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1684
3108[21:08:20] *** Murdoc_ is now known as murdoc
3109[21:08:46] <teraflops> JPT: I didn't say you want to install macos.
3110[21:08:50] *** Joins: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip)
3111[21:09:10] *** Joins: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip)
3112[21:10:05] <jhutchins> I wish XFCE came with more keyboard shortcuts. I particularly like the Window Management ones.
3113[21:10:33] *** Quits: ShalokShalom_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3114[21:11:16] *** Quits: druizz (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3115[21:11:47] *** Joins: muhannad_______ (~muhannad@replaced-ip)
3116[21:12:03] *** Parts: murdoc (~murdoc@replaced-ip)
3117[21:12:12] *** Joins: alxy (uid115853@replaced-ip)
3118[21:12:16] *** Joins: ShalokShalom (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3119[21:12:26] *** Quits: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip) (Excess Flood)
3120[21:13:08] *** Joins: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip)
3121[21:13:10] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip)
3122[21:13:11] *** Joins: BackEndCoder (~steve@replaced-ip)
3123[21:14:19] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3124[21:14:31] *** Joins: eKyNoX (~webaster@replaced-ip)
3125[21:14:35] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3126[21:16:01] *** Joins: ptv (~tigrisvul@replaced-ip)
3127[21:16:08] *** Quits: troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3128[21:16:17] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip)
3129[21:17:12] *** Joins: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip)
3130[21:17:27] *** Joins: knoxville (knox@replaced-ip)
3131[21:17:38] *** Joins: izual750 (~izual750@replaced-ip)
3132[21:18:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1691
3133[21:18:39] <llamapixel> jhutchins: have you considered xmonad instead of xfce if you like kb shortcuts.?
3134[21:18:42] *** Quits: ShalokShalom (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3135[21:18:54] *** Joins: ShalokShalom (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3136[21:19:17] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip)
3137[21:19:33] *** Joins: nickgaw (~nick@replaced-ip)
3138[21:19:40] <aleph-TA> so i'm having a problem with running openvpn in a network namespace to isolate transmission-daemon traffic. After about 5 hours DNS resolving will fail and i have to kill transmission and relaunch in the namespace. any ideas as to why this happens and how to fix it?
3139[21:20:07] *** Quits: T4ng10r (~Tanglor@replaced-ip) (Quit: Wychodzi)
3140[21:20:07] <nickgaw> Hi, If I wish to upgrade past 4.10.0rc6 in experimental how would I do this like to the stable 4.10 kernel?
3141[21:20:40] *** Quits: lasdam (lasdam@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3142[21:20:56] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip)
3143[21:21:02] <towo`> nickgaw, apt install it
3144[21:21:36] <towo`> what's the problem?
3145[21:21:46] <nickgaw> but there is no later version in experimental then 4.10.0rc6?
3146[21:22:02] <towo`> sure, there is
3147[21:22:24] <towo`> replaced-url
3148[21:22:35] *** Joins: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip)
3149[21:22:36] *** Joins: msdc (b89a4729@replaced-ip)
3150[21:23:12] <msdc> how to disconnect OpenConnect ?
3151[21:23:37] *** _Tristan-Speccy_ is now known as Tristan-Speccy
3152[21:24:33] *** Joins: DBA_1 (~DBA_1@replaced-ip)
3153[21:24:44] *** Joins: sgalvez (~sgalvez@replaced-ip)
3154[21:25:01] *** Quits: Tristan-Speccy (~tristan@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
3155[21:25:16] *** Joins: Tristan-Speccy (~tristan@replaced-ip)
3156[21:25:52] *** Tristan-Speccy is now known as Guest93542
3157[21:26:30] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3158[21:27:00] *** Quits: disi (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3159[21:27:04] *** Quits: DBA_1 (~DBA_1@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3160[21:28:52] *** Joins: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip)
3161[21:29:18] *** Quits: remo (~remo@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3162[21:29:26] *** Quits: ukko (~ukko@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3163[21:29:46] *** Guest93542 is now known as Tristan-Speccy
3164[21:30:07] <nickgaw> the trunk unsigned one ok I did not know that was a real package.
3165[21:31:01] <towo`> why should that package be unreal?
3166[21:33:15] <nickgaw> well I have never seen trunk-unsigned before in a apt-cache search -t experimental listing.
3167[21:33:46] *** Quits: jwd (~jwd@replaced-ip) ()
3168[21:34:36] *** Joins: rgr (~user@replaced-ip)
3169[21:34:47] <nickgaw> Does debian ever patch against the normal kernel.org sources to add or change features?
3170[21:35:22] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
3171[21:35:45] *** Quits: defaultnick_ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3172[21:36:06] *** Joins: icez (~zeci@replaced-ip)
3173[21:36:13] <rgr> new install and I wasnt prompted for a mysql passwrd. no access. help! I tried no passwd with mysql -u root -p
3174[21:36:34] <rgr> or how to remove mariadb totally so i can reinstall it with no access passwd as should be the default
3175[21:36:49] <missmbob> nickgaw: why are you fucking around with expirimental kernels?
3176[21:37:03] <msdc> i can not disconnect openconnect and i could find a tutorial for that in interent
3177[21:37:25] <nickgaw> just wanted to help test things out as so far things work fine with 4.10.0rc6 but want to try the latest one.
3178[21:37:41] *** Quits: jetho (~jetho@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3179[21:38:16] <nickgaw> why cuss about the fact that I want to help test things out?
3180[21:39:01] <missmbob> because i can, i guess. seriously? sigh
3181[21:39:10] *** Joins: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip)
3182[21:39:21] <missmbob> did it hurt you?
3183[21:39:43] *** Joins: Tipex (~Tipex@replaced-ip)
3184[21:39:53] *** Joins: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip)
3185[21:39:59] <nickgaw> I could care less what you think about what I do but it is my system so should I just want to run a later version then an rc version.
3186[21:40:01] <abs> missmbob: yous are hurting us biotch
3187[21:40:02] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3188[21:40:51] <missmbob> nickgaw: i never told you what i thought. still havent. you just got something up your butt because i said fucking. grow up. people swear.
3189[21:41:32] <nickgaw> I could care less what you say I just was wondering why it matters to you what I did not harsh feelings to you at all sorry if you thought that.
3190[21:41:40] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3191[21:41:58] <missmbob> it does. i asked before i knew what you were talking about. had nothing to do with reaction later
3192[21:42:16] <nickgaw> ok like I said no big deal
3193[21:42:28] <abs> no, sailors swear, lunix peoples do not swear, theys are educated peoples!
3194[21:42:50] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
3195[21:42:56] <missmbob> nickgaw: dont throw random accusations my way repeatedly that i didnt do
3196[21:43:07] <Shadow_7_> educated in all maners of slang and inuendo
3197[21:43:07] <dTal> abs: untrue: replaced-url
3198[21:43:14] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3199[21:43:16] <nickgaw> understand and I was not trying to do anything to you personally.
3200[21:43:44] <nickgaw> lets move on
3201[21:44:16] *** Quits: Tipex (~Tipex@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3202[21:44:28] <dTal> interesting that 2.6.13 marked the height of 'fuck' in the Linux kernel
3203[21:44:29] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3204[21:44:29] <nickgaw> Are there methods for building a custom debian installation image with this new trunk-unsigned kernel so I can install unstable with this kernel?
3205[21:45:12] *** Quits: vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3206[21:45:14] *** Joins: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip)
3207[21:45:14] <dTal> (but 'crap' is still ascendant)
3208[21:45:40] *** Joins: treehug88 (~textual@replaced-ip)
3209[21:45:40] *** Quits: Kev- (~Kev@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3210[21:45:47] <rgr> I swear to god mysql/mariadb will be the death of me.
3211[21:45:52] *** Joins: amnon (~amnon@replaced-ip)
3212[21:46:49] *** Joins: saka (~john@replaced-ip)
3213[21:46:57] <nickgaw> like a fresh installation of unstable with this experimental kernel.
3214[21:46:59] *** Quits: iNCoNFuN (~inconfun@replaced-ip) ()
3215[21:49:53] *** camh1 is now known as camh
3216[21:50:20] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip)
3217[21:52:15] *** Quits: amnon (~amnon@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3218[21:52:39] *** Joins: amnon (~amnon@replaced-ip)
3219[21:54:39] *** Joins: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip)
3220[21:56:11] *** Quits: nickgaw (~nick@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3221[21:56:39] *** Quits: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3222[21:56:54] *** Joins: nickgaw (~nick@replaced-ip)
3223[21:56:55] *** Joins: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip)
3224[21:57:49] *** Quits: nickgaw (~nick@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3225[21:58:17] *** Quits: lithie (uid45836@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3226[21:58:39] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip)
3227[21:58:49] *** Joins: gagrio (~George@replaced-ip)
3228[21:58:50] *** Joins: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip)
3229[21:59:02] *** Quits: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3230[22:00:13] *** Quits: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3231[22:01:40] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
3232[22:02:01] *** Quits: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3233[22:03:18] *** Joins: shabius (~shaburov1@replaced-ip)
3234[22:03:26] *** Quits: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip) (Quit: .)
3235[22:04:07] *** Quits: oberste1n (~ober@replaced-ip) (Quit: .)
3236[22:04:12] *** Quits: sgalvez (~sgalvez@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3237[22:04:17] *** Joins: zombo (~sfsdasd@replaced-ip)
3238[22:04:54] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection timed out)
3239[22:05:56] *** fup1337 is now known as fckup___
3240[22:05:57] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3241[22:06:05] *** fckup___ is now known as fup1337
3242[22:06:08] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3243[22:06:08] *** Quits: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3244[22:06:33] *** Quits: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3245[22:06:35] *** Quits: gagrio (~George@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3246[22:06:40] *** Quits: semyon (~semyon@replaced-ip) (Quit: install gentoo)
3247[22:06:49] *** Joins: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip)
3248[22:07:14] *** Quits: msdc (b89a4729@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
3249[22:07:20] *** Quits: z0ran (~z0ran@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3250[22:07:21] *** Joins: hiro_ (~hiro@replaced-ip)
3251[22:07:24] *** Quits: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3252[22:07:38] *** Joins: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip)
3253[22:09:11] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3254[22:09:12] *** Joins: oberstein (~ober@replaced-ip)
3255[22:09:17] *** Joins: msdc (2562138d@replaced-ip)
3256[22:10:20] *** Quits: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip) (Quit: "You picked the wrong kite to run away with!")
3257[22:10:23] *** Joins: ronaldvz (~ronaldvz@replaced-ip)
3258[22:11:02] *** Quits: amnon (~amnon@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3259[22:11:14] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip)
3260[22:11:30] *** Joins: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip)
3261[22:12:08] *** Quits: Vizva (~max@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3262[22:12:27] *** Quits: hiro_ (~hiro@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3263[22:12:28] *** Quits: ronaldvz (~ronaldvz@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3264[22:12:56] *** Joins: OS-26763 (~OS-26763@replaced-ip)
3265[22:13:34] *** Joins: Chrismeister (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
3266[22:13:36] *** Quits: gl-prout (~gl-prout@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3267[22:14:37] *** Quits: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip) (Quit: cyborg-one)
3268[22:14:51] *** Quits: OS-26763 (~OS-26763@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3269[22:15:33] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3270[22:15:59] *** Joins: disi (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3271[22:16:00] *** Joins: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip)
3272[22:16:29] *** Joins: sbasso_ (~sbasso@replaced-ip)
3273[22:16:37] *** Joins: vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@replaced-ip)
3274[22:17:01] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3275[22:17:57] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3276[22:20:42] *** Quits: sbasso_ (~sbasso@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3277[22:21:10] *** Joins: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip)
3278[22:21:14] *** Joins: chomwitt (~chomwitt@replaced-ip)
3279[22:21:19] *** Joins: sbasso (~sbasso@replaced-ip)
3280[22:21:44] *** Quits: dc123 (5c52790f@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
3281[22:22:21] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
3282[22:22:36] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3283[22:22:37] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip)
3284[22:23:06] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip)
3285[22:23:08] *** Quits: paranoids (~markus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
3286[22:26:29] *** Quits: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3287[22:27:36] *** Quits: ppppp5 (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3288[22:28:01] *** Quits: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3289[22:28:08] *** Quits: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3290[22:28:28] *** Quits: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3291[22:28:36] <zombo> Hi, when installing debian I get prompted to choose one or more 'roles' for my install (laptop, desktop, web server, etc.) and then the relevant packages will be installed. What if I didn't pick a role during the first install and then decide I need those packages after all? Can I install roles and all their packages from a package manager?
3292[22:28:55] *** Quits: msdc (2562138d@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
3293[22:29:02] <tw> zombo: you can add them using tasksel.
3294[22:29:17] *** Quits: Throdne (~Throdne@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3295[22:29:42] <zombo> tw, ty :)
3296[22:30:09] *** Joins: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip)
3297[22:30:27] *** Joins: Throdne (~Throdne@replaced-ip)
3298[22:30:50] *** Joins: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip)
3299[22:31:09] *** Joins: gigetoo (~gigetoo@replaced-ip)
3300[22:31:22] *** Quits: Kafei (~Kafei@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3301[22:31:28] *** Quits: BadSappa (~BadSnappa@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3302[22:31:34] *** Quits: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3303[22:31:36] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
3304[22:32:03] *** Joins: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip)
3305[22:32:57] *** Parts: tadej (~universe@replaced-ip)
3306[22:33:01] *** Joins: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip)
3307[22:33:33] *** Joins: r7st (~user@replaced-ip)
3308[22:34:28] *** Quits: AndrewMC (~amc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3309[22:34:33] *** Joins: PryMar56 (~chmearl@replaced-ip)
3310[22:34:34] *** Quits: Rust3dCor3 (~Rust3dCor@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3311[22:34:36] *** Joins: fguillot (~fguillot@replaced-ip)
3312[22:35:15] *** Quits: Throdne (~Throdne@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3313[22:35:42] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3314[22:35:43] *** Joins: AndrewMC (~amc@replaced-ip)
3315[22:36:48] *** Quits: AndrewMC (~amc@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3316[22:36:53] *** Quits: RebelCoderRU (~Yuriy@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3317[22:37:23] *** Joins: Guest96711 (~kubuntu@replaced-ip)
3318[22:37:48] *** Joins: Kev- (~Kev@replaced-ip)
3319[22:38:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1682
3320[22:38:05] *** Quits: vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3321[22:38:35] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip)
3322[22:38:54] *** Quits: miczac (~miczac@replaced-ip) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])
3323[22:39:02] *** Joins: garfunkel (~garfunkel@replaced-ip)
3324[22:40:00] *** Joins: karakedi (~e7E2C80CD@replaced-ip)
3325[22:40:32] *** Quits: mearon (~mearon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3326[22:41:00] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3327[22:41:34] *** Joins: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip)
3328[22:41:40] *** Quits: sappel (~sappel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3329[22:41:40] *** Quits: arawack (~arawack@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
3330[22:41:40] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3331[22:42:14] *** Quits: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3332[22:42:39] *** Joins: OS-27003 (~OS-27003@replaced-ip)
3333[22:42:54] *** Parts: OS-27003 (~OS-27003@replaced-ip)
3334[22:43:07] *** Quits: Kobra (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
3335[22:43:10] *** Joins: vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@replaced-ip)
3336[22:43:42] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip)
3337[22:43:43] *** Joins: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip)
3338[22:43:44] *** Quits: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip) (Quit: To infinity and beyond...)
3339[22:43:54] *** Joins: AndrewMC (~amc@replaced-ip)
3340[22:44:10] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3341[22:44:23] *** Joins: Kobra (~quassel@replaced-ip)
3342[22:44:31] *** Joins: Rackham (~Rackham@replaced-ip)
3343[22:45:01] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3344[22:45:27] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3345[22:45:34] *** Quits: peixoto (~peixoto@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3346[22:46:26] *** Joins: cerebro (~cerebro@replaced-ip)
3347[22:46:26] *** Joins: OS-26763 (~OS-26763@replaced-ip)
3348[22:46:32] *** Quits: OS-26763 (~OS-26763@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3349[22:46:46] *** Quits: zhangweichinese (~zhangwei@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
3350[22:47:32] <unborn> oh wow.. I think stretch is really really great, cannot wait for release
3351[22:47:46] *** Quits: hp (~hp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3352[22:48:05] *** Quits: garfunkel (~garfunkel@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
3353[22:48:32] *** Quits: singalaut (~mami@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3354[22:49:28] *** Joins: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip)
3355[22:50:46] *** Quits: lethu (~lethu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3356[22:50:51] *** Joins: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip)
3357[22:50:53] *** Quits: j0hnd0e (~Mutter@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3358[22:51:18] *** Quits: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3359[22:51:41] *** Quits: RTFM[Xopis] (~xopis@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - ##replaced-url
3360[22:52:17] <Klaus_Dieter> unborn: then don't wait. get involved!
3361[22:52:22] <Klaus_Dieter> :)
3362[22:52:24] *** Joins: makimaki (~makimaki`@replaced-ip)
3363[22:52:36] *** Joins: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip)
3364[22:52:48] <unborn> Klaus_Dieter: just testing in virtualmin
3365[22:52:56] <unborn> re* virtualbox
3366[22:52:57] <unborn> ;D
3367[22:53:34] *** Quits: Pr0metheus (~nezos@replaced-ip) (Quit: Pr0metheus)
3368[22:53:44] *** Joins: RTFM[Xopis] (~xopis@replaced-ip)
3369[22:53:58] <Klaus_Dieter> I never quite understood the concept of those install roles. I am awayre that the installer-guys have to come up with something new every now and then but frankly a minimal set really is all that is needed. afterwards apt-get install $THE_DESKTOP_I_LIKE fixes the rest if indeed a desktop is needed
3370[22:54:29] <nkuttler> roles? tasks?
3371[22:54:35] <Klaus_Dieter> nkuttler: exactly.
3372[22:54:48] <missmbob> most people do that. it's not done for you. it's for newbies and to make things easier for them
3373[22:54:50] <nkuttler> noob friendly
3374[22:55:59] *** Joins: aaro (~aaro@replaced-ip)
3375[22:56:03] <Klaus_Dieter> well.. imo this is one of the things were a supposedly newbie-friendly makes things more difficult... no I have to understand the concept of roles and check what packages selection is in each of them.. and I have to wonder whether timing parameters and memory parameters are actually adapted as well...
3376[22:56:27] *** Quits: tucks_ (~tucks@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3377[22:56:27] <Klaus_Dieter> ie udp buffers might increase, maybe the default config of sshd is different in a server role too....
3378[22:56:35] <missmbob> nothing newbiews would even know to think of
3379[22:56:40] <Klaus_Dieter> I know
3380[22:56:50] <Klaus_Dieter> but everyone else suddenly has to think of
3381[22:56:59] <Klaus_Dieter> let me repharse that
3382[22:57:05] <missmbob> so dont make it more complicated for them. accept it. we can read texts and know to do so
3383[22:57:26] <Klaus_Dieter> missmbob: yes that is nothing newbies would thinkg of but it forces everyone else to put thought into now that the concept of roles has been introduced.
3384[22:57:47] <nkuttler> yet i never think about tasks
3385[22:57:50] <Klaus_Dieter> I do accept it. I just don'T like it :)
3386[22:57:54] <missmbob> i dont care about everyone else. they'll just skip it and lose maybe 1.5 seconds
3387[22:58:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1675
3388[22:58:03] <missmbob> okay :)
3389[22:59:00] *** Quits: MrNeon (~misterneo@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.4 - ##replaced-url
3390[22:59:28] *** Joins: MrNeon (~misterneo@replaced-ip)
3391[22:59:47] *** Joins: artificial (~artificia@replaced-ip)
3392[22:59:49] <Klaus_Dieter> missmbob: but maybe in that regard I am more in the bsd camp.... have some documentation that tells what setting is to be set, what it does and why it is needed, the last part being the most important.
3393[23:00:03] *** Joins: DarinMiller_ (~darin@replaced-ip)
3394[23:00:12] *** Joins: moetunes (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
3395[23:00:23] <Klaus_Dieter> still I have swithed back from bsd even with using zfs and all..... because... well... debian is just better. :)
3396[23:01:44] *** Quits: fax (~fax@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3397[23:02:25] *** Joins: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip)
3398[23:02:28] *** artificial is now known as artificialamateu
3399[23:02:39] *** Joins: sgalvez (~sgalvez@replaced-ip)
3400[23:02:41] *** artificialamateu is now known as artificialone
3401[23:02:44] *** Joins: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip)
3402[23:02:46] *** Joins: somazero (~somazero@replaced-ip)
3403[23:02:53] *** artificialone is now known as theartificialone
3404[23:03:02] *** Quits: DarinMiller (~darin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3405[23:03:50] *** Quits: eternal-pain (~eternal-p@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3406[23:03:53] *** Quits: Rackham (~Rackham@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3407[23:03:53] *** Quits: SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3408[23:05:08] <abs> is it possible to change journald logs output directory?
3409[23:05:24] <abs> I want to have the logs in a different partition
3410[23:05:46] *** theartificialone is now known as artificialamateu
3411[23:05:46] <abs> but can't find such an option in the manpage or the net
3412[23:07:05] *** Quits: savantgarde (~savantgar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3413[23:07:43] *** Quits: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3414[23:09:51] <artificialamateu> h
3415[23:10:06] <abs> h?
3416[23:10:07] *** artificialamateu is now known as artificial
3417[23:10:33] *** Joins: TomTomTo1 (~henryk@replaced-ip)
3418[23:10:42] *** Parts: r7st (~user@replaced-ip)
3419[23:10:47] <OerHeks> storage= ... replaced-url
3420[23:10:47] *** artificial is now known as theartificial
3421[23:11:30] *** Quits: cerbere (~cerbere@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3422[23:13:34] <Klaus_Dieter> abs: you could mount your partition to /var/log
3423[23:13:35] *** Quits: TomTomTosch (~henryk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3424[23:14:03] <Klaus_Dieter> abs: having logs somewhere else does not comply with "man hier"
3425[23:15:33] <abs> hmm how come, I think it's good practice on a server
3426[23:15:35] *** Quits: ltem (~panta@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3427[23:16:07] *** Joins: RainyCode (~RainyCode@replaced-ip)
3428[23:16:14] <tw> abs: the short version is systemd is not configurable, but you can adjust the rest of the systems to put things where it expects.
3429[23:16:52] <abs> yeah I could ln -s /var/log/journal to somewhere else
3430[23:16:56] *** Quits: RainyCode (~RainyCode@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3431[23:17:01] <Klaus_Dieter> abs: it is horrible to put logfiles all over the place for anyone having to log on to the server and find an issue quickly.
3432[23:17:19] <tw> Klaus_Dieter: doesn't matter if they have to use journalctl anyway.
3433[23:17:30] <abs> I will put ALL logs smewhere else
3434[23:17:42] <Klaus_Dieter> abs: I am aware that some RoR-applications and nodejs and generally apps from the fancy-folk do this. still it is bad. the standard is there for a reason.
3435[23:17:49] <Klaus_Dieter> java does this too.
3436[23:17:52] *** Joins: RainyCode (~RainyCode@replaced-ip)
3437[23:17:58] *** Quits: Grimsley (~justin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3438[23:18:02] *** Joins: hiya (hiya@replaced-ip)
3439[23:18:26] *** hiya is now known as Guest25967
3440[23:18:38] <abs> I think keeping the OS clean and isolated to it's own partition is good practice for a server
3441[23:18:47] <abs> also makes for easier backups
3442[23:19:28] <th_> was debian 2.2 really a potato?
3443[23:19:29] <tw> that's why you put /var on its own partition.
3444[23:19:39] <abs> th_ lol
3445[23:19:46] <Klaus_Dieter> that is wrong on multiple levels. "the os" already may use multiple partitions /boot is adviasable and /var is adviasble to be separate as well
3446[23:20:16] <Klaus_Dieter> /home is advisable as well to have on a different partition
3447[23:20:18] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip)
3448[23:20:23] <bazhang> Klaus_Dieter, not for ages
3449[23:20:29] <missmbob> no one said this was a good idea :P
3450[23:20:32] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3451[23:20:32] <Klaus_Dieter> am I that old? :)
3452[23:20:40] *** Quits: soee (~soee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
3453[23:20:48] <abs> Klaus_Dieter: you sir are a dinosaur
3454[23:20:51] *** Joins: kiao2938 (~mj@replaced-ip)
3455[23:20:58] <Klaus_Dieter> crap.
3456[23:21:01] <abs> lol
3457[23:22:07] <Klaus_Dieter> well, still I advise to use the layout written down in "man hier" because that means that new admin folk will know their way around the file system without having to poke in horrible application documentation
3458[23:22:09] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3459[23:22:21] <missmbob> yeah. i'd fire you otherwise
3460[23:22:49] *** Joins: cnu- (~u@replaced-ip)
3461[23:22:58] <abs> missmbob: you can't fire me you fool, I'm the boss! I fire YOU!
3462[23:23:02] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3463[23:23:10] <missmbob> damnit! :(
3464[23:23:21] <abs> yep you sir are so fired
3465[23:23:44] *** Joins: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip)
3466[23:23:44] *** Quits: theartificial (~artificia@replaced-ip) (Quit: theartificial)
3467[23:23:45] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip) (Quit: ☮ out)
3468[23:23:49] <Klaus_Dieter> of course you could interpret that as a teaser for the application folk to make an effort and improve documentation... well it still sucks coming into a critical incident and not even knowing where the f**k the app-team chose to place their logs.
3469[23:23:50] <abs> you're ALL fired
3470[23:24:25] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip)
3471[23:25:00] <abs> Klaus_Dieter: it can be moved and still be clear
3472[23:25:24] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3473[23:25:54] <abs> it's not like Linux has the most clean FS structure ever made... by far imho
3474[23:26:13] *** Quits: grafdiffuzor (~grafdiffu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3475[23:26:23] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip) (Quit: Saliendo)
3476[23:26:30] *** Quits: scream (~scream@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3477[23:26:51] *** Quits: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3478[23:27:09] *** Joins: W4sp (~W4sp@replaced-ip)
3479[23:28:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1668
3480[23:29:21] *** Quits: Kapitalist (~Kapitalis@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3481[23:30:28] *** Quits: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3482[23:30:33] *** Joins: SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@replaced-ip)
3483[23:31:25] *** Joins: MadHezz (MadHezz@replaced-ip)
3484[23:32:01] *** Quits: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3485[23:32:10] *** Joins: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip)
3486[23:32:40] *** Quits: Lope (~Lope@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3487[23:32:52] *** Joins: peterbecich (~user@replaced-ip)
3488[23:33:09] *** Quits: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3489[23:33:57] *** Joins: calisto (~calisto@replaced-ip)
3490[23:34:03] *** Joins: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip)
3491[23:34:14] *** Joins: ragedragon (~ragedrago@replaced-ip)
3492[23:34:56] *** potus_ is now known as potus
3493[23:35:05] *** Quits: lord_rob (~robert@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3494[23:35:54] *** Quits: Doow (~Karl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3495[23:37:12] *** Joins: kubuntu (~kubuntu@replaced-ip)
3496[23:37:36] *** kubuntu is now known as Guest80512
3497[23:38:46] *** Joins: userro (~userro@replaced-ip)
3498[23:38:52] *** Quits: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3499[23:39:04] *** Joins: joeel85 (~joseph@replaced-ip)
3500[23:39:47] *** Joins: altbashi (~altbashi@replaced-ip)
3501[23:40:00] *** Quits: Guest96711 (~kubuntu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3502[23:40:25] *** Quits: fup1337 (~fuckup@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3503[23:41:02] *** Joins: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip)
3504[23:41:03] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
3505[23:41:31] *** Quits: bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3506[23:42:05] *** Quits: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3507[23:43:18] *** Joins: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip)
3508[23:43:22] *** Quits: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3509[23:44:17] *** Joins: scoobert1on (~tom@replaced-ip)
3510[23:44:59] *** Joins: wonton (~wonton@replaced-ip)
3511[23:45:03] *** Quits: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3512[23:45:25] <jhutchins> Klaus_Dieter: The traditional Linux partitioning scheme really doesn't make sense with modern hardware. Back when hard drives were small and expensive and systems were all multi-user it made sense. These days it just guarantees that you will run out of spave on one partition when you have plenty on another.
3513[23:45:30] *** Joins: barteks2x (barteks2x@replaced-ip)
3514[23:45:36] *** Joins: usersiis (~userro@replaced-ip)
3515[23:46:10] *** Quits: userro (~userro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3516[23:46:35] *** usersiis is now known as userro
3517[23:47:01] <jhutchins> I usuall receommend (and practice) one partition + swap unless you know of a specific reason you need something else.
3518[23:47:22] *** Joins: OS-27003 (~OS-27003@replaced-ip)
3519[23:47:27] *** Parts: OS-27003 (~OS-27003@replaced-ip)
3520[23:47:49] *** Quits: satbyy (satbyy@replaced-ip) (Quit: M-x sleep-mode)
3521[23:48:06] *** Quits: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3522[23:48:51] <jhutchins> Klaus_Dieter: I agree about using the hierarchy. Particularly when it comes to logs. They're so much easier to manage with logrotate if they're all in one tree.
3523[23:49:02] *** Quits: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3524[23:49:07] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: /boot is always a separate partition on my systems. /home is a separate partition if actual users log on to the machine and depending on the intended use I sometimes separate /var as well :)
3525[23:49:08] *** Joins: matterbot (~matterbot@replaced-ip)
3526[23:49:09] <jsw_> To add to that, IME production systems these days tend to have monitoring in place to alarm before the disk actually does fill up. Sadly it's not safe to assume "all logs go to /var/log".
3527[23:49:14] <jhutchins> I have one server that has about five years of web logs.
3528[23:49:22] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3529[23:49:28] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: true. it also stops java developers charging me fees for developing their own flavor of logrotate
3530[23:49:31] <Klaus_Dieter> :)
3531[23:49:45] *** Quits: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip) (Quit: bye.)
3532[23:50:02] *** Quits: Guest80512 (~kubuntu@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3533[23:50:09] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip)
3534[23:50:13] <jhutchins> Klaus_Dieter: So do you leave boot unmounted?
3535[23:50:31] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
3536[23:50:39] *** jake| is now known as conley
3537[23:50:56] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: I mount it ro mostly
3538[23:50:57] *** Joins: OS-26474 (~OS-26474@replaced-ip)
3539[23:51:07] <OS-26474> msg Nickservice 0987609876
3540[23:51:09] *** Joins: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip)
3541[23:51:11] *** Joins: defaultnick___ (~irc@replaced-ip)
3542[23:51:13] *** Quits: OS-26474 (~OS-26474@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3543[23:51:25] *** Quits: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3544[23:51:45] <userro> lulwut
3545[23:51:47] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: this will also give me a heads-up if there is a new kernel in dist-upgrade as that will then fail...
3546[23:51:50] <jhutchins> Oracle servers tend to have their own special partitioning scheme (usually on NAS).
3547[23:52:42] <Klaus_Dieter> unfortunately oracly is a different can of worms entirely... with everything. You cannot trust a software having version 12 or whatever if it never had version 1.
3548[23:52:58] *** Joins: Artemis3 (~artemis3@replaced-ip)
3549[23:53:07] *** Joins: theartificial (~artificia@replaced-ip)
3550[23:53:10] *** Joins: Niantl1 (~Niantl@replaced-ip)
3551[23:53:17] *** Quits: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip) (Quit: 'Goodbye')
3552[23:53:18] *** Quits: joeel84 (~joseph@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3553[23:53:20] *** Quits: cereal_poster (~Cereal@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3554[23:53:20] <Klaus_Dieter> by version 2 at the latest you already know that the marketing department had taken over. ;)
3555[23:53:53] *** Joins: olek_poz (~bobik314@replaced-ip)
3556[23:54:01] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: actually for me it does not matter if the device is attached physically or over san.
3557[23:54:16] <jhutchins> Given databases that can take well over 24 hours to move over high speed connection, Oracle is a fact of life.
3558[23:54:28] *** Quits: akwiatkowski (~bobik314@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3559[23:54:56] <Klaus_Dieter> unfortunately yes. still applications using it have slightly more incidents than the ones running db2.
3560[23:55:09] *** Quits: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3561[23:55:31] <jhutchins> I don't see things like the Federal payroll or the DMV registry for Texas on db2 these days.
3562[23:55:49] *** Quits: Niantl (~Niantl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3563[23:55:58] *** Joins: rx777 (~ro@replaced-ip)
3564[23:55:58] *** Quits: rx777 (~ro@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
3565[23:55:58] *** Joins: rx777 (~ro@replaced-ip)
3566[23:56:11] <Klaus_Dieter> I am seeing a lot of banking backend software...
3567[23:56:11] <jhutchins> 100 years of Aviation Week and Space Technology is actually on MySQL.
3568[23:56:22] <Klaus_Dieter> interesting :)
3569[23:56:34] *** Joins: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip)
3570[23:56:54] <Klaus_Dieter> frankly that probably is a good choice given its foss nature....
3571[23:57:00] *** Quits: Envil (~envil@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3572[23:57:02] *** Joins: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip)
3573[23:57:04] *** Quits: rx777 (~ro@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3574[23:57:07] <tw> I disagree that partitioning doesn't have a place; /home, /srv, and /var/lib should run out of space before /var/log and /run (if /run is not tmpfs)
3575[23:57:15] *** Quits: Cassiopaya (~Discovery@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3576[23:57:18] *** Quits: jasonwc (~jasonwc@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3577[23:57:36] *** Joins: rx777 (~ro@replaced-ip)
3578[23:57:49] *** Joins: cereal_poster (~cereal_po@replaced-ip)
3579[23:57:59] *** Quits: TsukiRa (~fpob@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
3580[23:58:05] *** Quits: DzAirmaX (~AirmaX@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3581[23:58:06] <theartificial> Quick unrelated question. Two computers and one email/keybase. Should I have a 3 ssh keypairs or one for all?
3582[23:58:07] <tw> As soon as you get into a position where a user can induce init to start vomiting, something is designed wrong.
3583[23:58:25] <rx777> Hello, I am experiencing an issue described here replaced-url
3584[23:58:26] <judd> Bug replaced-url
3585[23:58:41] <Klaus_Dieter> theartificial: it probably depends on your use case. If in doubt chose the 3 pairs solution.
3586[23:58:59] <Klaus_Dieter> tw: ack.
3587[23:59:14] *** Quits: sbasso (~sbasso@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3588[23:59:19] *** Quits: matterbot (~matterbot@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3589[23:59:25] *** Quits: shakalaka (~shakalaka@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3590[23:59:32] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3591[23:59:34] <Klaus_Dieter> rx777: how can you suffer from debians failure of asking for disk encryption if you do not even use it?
3592[23:59:46] *** Quits: f10_ (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3593[23:59:47] <Klaus_Dieter> asking for disk ecnrpytion passwords
↑top

Realtime Nick Name Ticker

People who Joins, Parts or Quits a chatroom

this is #debian an IRC-Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)