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77 [00:32:13] <pscx2userpv> Hello all. I'm trying to find pcsx2 but I can't find it (tried apt-get install pcsx2; apt search pcsx2 doesn't give any result)
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82 [00:36:14] <max3> can someone help me with sendmail - why am i not receiving this email replaced-url
83 [00:36:30] <max3> bob.alice@gmail.com is my obfuscated actual email address
84 [00:36:36] <max3> and for example echo "Subject: test" | /usr/lib/sendmail -v bob.alice@gmail.com Example does work
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86 [00:37:19] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world.
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88 [00:38:32] <Klaus_Dieter> I created an apt repository and an InRelease file that is signed. gpg -d confirms that the signature is intact but on a client PC having included that depot apt complains about invalid signature. W: GPG-Fehler: replaced-url
89 [00:38:38] <Klaus_Dieter> repository: ...
90 [00:38:41] <Klaus_Dieter> ... replaced-url
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101 [00:43:39] <a___> how do I install debian without uefi?
102 [00:43:47] <c-c> just normally?
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104 [00:44:08] <a___> it adds a uefi partition by default, I tried deleting it but then grub installation fails
105 [00:44:36] <pscx2userpv> ello all. I'm trying to find pcsx2 but I can't find it (tried apt-get install pcsx2; apt search pcsx2 doesn't give any result)
106 [00:45:06] <c-c> a___: did you disable from BIOS? Yes thats right.
107 [00:45:33] <a___> c-c: not sure how to disable from bios, is that the only way to do it?
108 [00:45:46] <a___> c-c: ubuntu installs on my machine without uefi by default
109 [00:46:14] <c-c> a___: I think you can google some now, I gtg
110 [00:46:49] <mtn> a___: if efi is on in the settings, it must be installed with efi partition
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112 [00:47:02] <mtn> a___: if efi is off, then you install grub to the mbr
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114 [00:47:58] <mtn> a___: I would recommend you do some research on this topic. your motherboard manual could be helpful, too
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119 [00:48:39] <a___> mtn: I'm migrating from ubuntu. all the problems I talked about didn't occur in ubuntu, and ubuntu doesn't have a separate 'ubuntu' entry in BIOS so I assumed it doesn't use UEFI, and that UEFI is the cause of my problems with debian, and that solving it requires installing debian without UEFI..
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121 [00:49:11] <mtn> a___: nope. debian will work either way, you just have to it correctly
122 [00:49:58] <a___> not sure what the ubuntu install was doing that debian isn't
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124 [00:50:11] <mtn> a___: replaced-url
125 [00:50:28] <a___> thanks
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138 [00:58:45] <amz3> I'd like to study aptitude algorithm that resolve dependencies, where can i find the vcs repository?
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144 [01:01:31] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow
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151 [01:03:54] <Klaus_Dieter> amz3: apt-get src aptitude fetches the source.
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158 [01:06:16] <jrtc27> Klaus_Dieter: amz3: or "debcheckout aptitude" (you'll need to install devscripts)
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161 [01:06:51] <amz3> tx
162 [01:08:25] <Klaus_Dieter> so what can I do about this signing issue of the apt repository?
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178 [01:15:46] <jrtc27> Klaus_Dieter: does apt-key think the key is present?
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180 [01:17:28] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: yes it does
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182 [01:17:55] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: replaced-url
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184 [01:18:07] <Klaus_Dieter> the bottom one
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187 [01:19:29] <jrtc27> what hash algorithm is used to sign the file?
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190 [01:20:00] <jrtc27> gpg --list-packets on InRelease should tell you
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192 [01:20:36] <Klaus_Dieter> I am not sure: replaced-url
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196 [01:21:25] <Klaus_Dieter> the repository and the signing is done by aptly
197 [01:21:41] <jrtc27> oh even easier, InRelease itself says Hash: SHA1 right at the top
198 [01:21:46] <jrtc27> you need to use something stronger than SHA1
199 [01:22:16] <Klaus_Dieter> ah so that is it.
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214 [01:25:00] <Klaus_Dieter> this explains why this is only happening with 8.7 and not with 8.0
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222 [01:27:46] <Klaus_Dieter> unfortunaly aptly is required in a newer version than 0.8.3 so I will have to use the version from testing
223 [01:27:52] <Klaus_Dieter> this will be fun... :/
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228 [01:28:53] <jrtc27> can you modify gpg.conf?
229 [01:28:59] <jrtc27> I don't know if aptly picks that up
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231 [01:29:52] <Klaus_Dieter> it may be
232 [01:29:57] <Klaus_Dieter> from the manpage it is signing with gpg
233 [01:30:09] <Klaus_Dieter> but it is unclear whether it is the program or the general mechanism used
234 [01:30:18] <dtcrshr> hello eveyrone. I cloned a debian machine which has LVM on its disk. On the destination machine i cannot boot with an error that the vg was not found. Booting on a live machine I edited the fstab so the blkid from the root partition was correct, I got grub back but still the system boots to initramfs
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239 [01:30:54] <dtcrshr> is there any other ways to repair the destination machine so it boots correctly? I can see all the vgs, lvs, pvs on the live machine
240 [01:31:01] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: I can edit gpg.conf what should I place to check whether aptly uses that?
241 [01:32:02] <Klaus_Dieter> ah, should be --digest-algo SHA256
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243 [01:32:28] <jrtc27> either digest-algo SHA256 or personal-digest-algo
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245 [01:32:51] <jrtc27> or SHA512 (I assume all versions of apt support that)
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247 [01:33:34] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: aptly picks up whatever is in gpg.conf
248 [01:33:41] <Klaus_Dieter> I now have a sha 256 signed inRelease
249 [01:33:45] <jrtc27> \o/
250 [01:34:06] <Klaus_Dieter> and the warning is gone on the system where I want to install its packages
251 [01:34:18] <Klaus_Dieter> thank you very much I hardly would have come up with that myself! :)
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254 [01:37:39] <amcorreia> anyone have installed kubernetes in debian using APT?
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256 [01:38:21] <c-c> amcorreia: its not in Jessie
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258 [01:38:42] <kingkong-> hi. on "history" output, i can see a command on 3259. line. how can i run it or copy in short way by recall from history?
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261 [01:39:09] <c-c> kingkong-: !command
262 [01:39:29] <c-c> (reruns the last match for 'command')
263 [01:39:34] <amcorreia> c-c, the only repository i've found (apt.kubernetes.io) don't have even for wheezy
264 [01:39:40] <Klaus_Dieter> the error message is pretty horrible though as the signature is actually valid but not trusted due to the weak hash
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266 [01:41:10] <borsin> kingkong-: ctrl + r, then type part of the beginning of line 3259
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268 [01:43:20] <kingkong-> !command
269 [01:43:42] <c-c> be careful with that
270 [01:43:43] <kingkong-> c-c: but i dont need the last match.
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273 [01:44:16] <kingkong-> borsin: it shows another command used later. can i jump another match ?
274 [01:44:45] <c-c> kingkong-: are you using bash
275 [01:45:24] <kingkong-> yes
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277 [01:46:05] <kingkong-> cant recall it as line number shortly ?
278 [01:46:37] <borsin> kingkong-: repeat ctrl + r until you find it or as i said since you know what the command looks like with 'history' type until you get that one
279 [01:46:41] <c-c> no
280 [01:46:47] <c-c> kingkong-: !<linenumber>
281 [01:46:49] <c-c> fex
282 [01:46:55] <c-c> !3259
283 [01:48:19] <c-c> you may want to test first to be safe: $ cat !3259
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286 [01:48:41] <Hello71> no such file or directory: `ls'
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289 [01:49:35] <c-c> Hello71: your bash is fail?
290 [01:50:04] <Hello71> dunno why you're trying to cat a command
291 [01:50:22] <c-c> Hello71: to see if its the correct one
292 [01:50:33] <Hello71> sigh
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294 [01:51:06] <c-c> You can sigh all you like until you manage a multi-million server, failure of which gets you sacked
295 [01:51:44] <Hello71> multi-million transistors I'm sure.
296 [01:52:04] <Hello71> given that apparently you don't know how to print a string in bourne-compatible shell
297 [01:52:42] <kingkong-> boths of them worked. thanks you guys. :)
298 [01:52:45] <c-c> yeah well
299 [01:53:10] <c-c> Hello71: at least I didnt come around dorking when other people help people :)
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302 [01:53:58] <Hello71> reminds me of a conversation I overheard: "copy it to temp. no, temp. TEE EM PEE."
303 [01:54:20] <c-c> - its not pretty but should be safe
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330 [02:02:45] <kingkong-> its possible to erase some lines from history ? for example "logout" commands
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341 [02:08:04] <c-c> kingkong-: yea
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346 [02:10:27] <veek> is there a way to recover files or fix the linux filesystem.. my disk was dropped and i rebooted into linux, and damaged the fs.. read works. i get: EXT4-fs (sda2): error loading journal
347 [02:10:35] <veek> JBD2: IO error reading journal superblock
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350 [02:10:57] <c-c> veek: yes there is
351 [02:11:15] <veek> Ooo do tell
352 [02:11:34] <c-c> gddrescue f.ex.
353 [02:11:58] <c-c> fsck should run on startup
354 [02:12:13] <veek> are there any books/tutorials that'll help me understand the recovery process
355 [02:12:26] <veek> c-c, i can't mount -o ro
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357 [02:12:52] <c-c> veek: can you look at magicrescue too
358 [02:13:42] <kingkong-> c-c how ?
359 [02:13:57] <c-c> kingkong-: history -d <linenumber>
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361 [02:15:28] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow
362 [02:15:41] <kingkong-> after i run !<number> that line order moves to the end of history ?
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384 [02:27:53] <kingkong-> that deletes 1 line only. can i give number interval or specify commands ? like erase all "logout" from history
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398 [02:34:47] <Hello71> sed -i -e '/logout/d' .bash_history
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422 [02:53:00] <XRyuu> Hello all
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424 [02:53:11] <XRyuu> I installed Debian netinstall
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428 [02:53:22] <XRyuu> how can i install Plasma?
429 [02:53:40] <XRyuu> currently in cli no DE installed
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433 [02:55:27] <themill> !install kde
434 [02:55:27] <dpkg> The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose "KDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then "Continue".
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436 [02:57:16] <awal1> XRyuu, just use aptitude search pkgname , plasma, in your case, then look at description (aptitude show pkgname) and install what you need
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439 [02:58:36] <XRyuu> what if i use apt-get install kde-standard and then kde-plasma?
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441 [02:59:39] <themill> there's no such package name as kde-plasma
442 [02:59:57] <XRyuu> kde-plasma-netbook sorry
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445 [03:00:16] <XRyuu> kde-plasma-desktop that one
446 [03:00:25] <awal1> aptitude show pkgname
447 [03:00:39] <awal1> and read descriptions
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450 [03:02:09] <awal1> debian installer installs kde-standard
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452 [03:02:49] <awal1> well, since jessie, if not wrong, task-desktop-kde
453 [03:03:34] <awal1> task-kde-desktop
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455 [03:03:55] <awal1> ,v task-kde-desktop
456 [03:03:56] <judd> Package: task-kde-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.14.1; jessie: 3.31+deb8u1; sid: 3.39; stretch: 3.39
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470 [03:15:52] <kingkong-> Hello71: thx, do i replace .bash_history with my history file name ?
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540 [04:04:26] <foul_owl> Does anyone here use awesomewm or is it deprecated
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556 [04:16:22] <foul_owl> Or is there a backport for awesomewm somewhere?
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558 [04:18:03] <missmbob> no
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560 [04:18:21] <foul_owl> the version taht ships with jessie was compiled in 2013... :(
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566 [04:21:34] <coruja> ,v awesome
567 [04:21:35] <judd> Package: awesome on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.13-1; jessie: 3.4.15-1+b1; sid: 4.0-1; stretch: 4.0-1
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570 [04:22:09] <foul_owl> awesome --version
571 [04:22:13] <foul_owl> Build: Feb 17 2013 21:10:46 for x86_64 by gcc version 4.7.2 (buildd@replaced-ip )
572 [04:23:05] <foul_owl> I understand keeping a "stable" version in the main repos, but why not toss a build or three into jessie backports?
573 [04:23:35] <themill> "why not" doesn't magically make volunteers appear
574 [04:23:49] <foul_owl> I volunteer
575 [04:23:51] <coruja> with a bit more patience you may wait for stretch getting stable and being released soon(tm)
576 [04:23:58] <themill> foul_owl: then do it!
577 [04:24:11] <foul_owl> How do I get perms to upload debs to jessie backports?
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579 [04:24:23] <themill> replaced-url
580 [04:24:24] <foul_owl> I will happily do that for dozens of buggy packages
581 [04:25:02] <themill> backports is not for fixing bugs
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583 [04:26:03] <foul_owl> Ah ok
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586 [04:26:17] <foul_owl> Instead of uploading a newer deb to backports, should I file a bug report instead?
587 [04:26:30] <foul_owl> I would rather contribute a new package than add another report to the pile
588 [04:26:42] <themill> helping get stretch released is probably the most productive thing to do then
589 [04:26:52] <foul_owl> Ah ok!
590 [04:27:19] <foul_owl> What's a good way I can help with that?
591 [04:27:55] <Shadow_7> if you have patches you can submit them upstream so they filter back downstream eventually
592 [04:28:06] <themill> replaced-url
593 [04:28:16] <foul_owl> Thank you
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619 [04:55:54] <abishai> guys
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621 [04:56:20] <abishai> I just nmaped my server, and there are over a dozen open/filtered UDP ports open
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624 [04:56:57] <abishai> what's up with that, I know I'm not running any services up there
625 [04:57:29] <psychoticwarrior> what services?
626 [04:57:45] <Shadow_7> dns is port 53 and udp
627 [04:57:51] <psychoticwarrior> yes it is
628 [04:58:00] <bibble> tru dat
629 [04:58:02] <abishai> udp 19722, 20742, 34862.. just some of them
630 [04:58:22] <Shadow_7> abishai: what does netstat say on the machine you scanned?
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632 [04:59:06] <abishai> netstat -tulpn shows only 2 ports open, sshd and httpd, as it should
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634 [04:59:59] <abishai> but those high UDP ports listening are weird, nmap can't find a service, reports 'unknown'
635 [05:00:09] <jsw_> Did you scan loopback, or one of your eth interfaces?
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637 [05:00:40] <abishai> I nmap from my home PC to my server
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640 [05:01:13] <abishai> have you tried nmaping your boxes?
641 [05:01:17] <jsw_> There may be something (modem? consumer firewall?) that has those ports open in between your pc and server?
642 [05:01:43] <jsw_> No, sorry, wrong direction. That's not it.
643 [05:01:52] <abishai> nmap -sS -sU -T4 -A -v -PE -PP -PS80,443 -PA3389 -PU40125 -PY -g 53 --script "default or (discovery and safe)"
644 [05:01:56] <abishai> try this
645 [05:02:15] <abishai> (script is included in windows gui version of nmap)
646 [05:02:28] <Shadow_7> is X running on said machine?
647 [05:02:44] <Shadow_7> xauth list
648 [05:02:45] <abishai> noway, it's a web server
649 [05:03:04] <jsw_> Use telnet to connect on those ports. What banner do you get?
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652 [05:04:28] <abishai> nothing. 'Connection Refused'
653 [05:05:13] <jsw_> ... Then nmap or the script is lying to you I would think.
654 [05:05:15] <abishai> could be some systemd sockets with no services behind
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659 [05:07:49] <psychoticwarrior> udev is a bitch. it should always be disabled
660 [05:07:56] <psychoticwarrior> froze my machine
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662 [05:09:01] <bibble> think systemd ntp is on high/random udp port
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666 [05:09:32] <abishai> if anyone wants to test his box, share your results, Im curious
667 [05:10:15] <abishai> let's make happy safe boxes :)
668 [05:11:11] <jsw_> @abishai, I think you'll need to chase down the inconsistency between the telnet test and your nmap tests before you get any further
669 [05:11:42] <abishai> probably true
670 [05:11:48] <abishai> will look into it
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672 [05:12:30] <jsw_> Oh - duh. The difference is TCP vs UDP.
673 [05:12:36] <Shadow_7> does udev even need to run after boot? The /dev/ devices should be created at that point. Baring device hot plugging.
674 [05:14:07] <abishai> jsw_: wait.. yes lol.. fail test, I'll hack up a script to connect with UDP real quick
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689 [05:29:35] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow
690 [05:30:07] <ksft> this is on a laptop with a hybrid Nvidia/Intel graphics card thing
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694 [05:30:55] <abishai> jsw_: I setup a php script, sending a few bytes succeeds but when I try to receive anything, socket_recv() returns false with '[0] The operation completed successfully.'
695 [05:30:59] <ksft> Debian 8.6, Bumblebee 3.2.1
696 [05:31:31] <abishai> jsw_: note that the same happens to ANY UDP port, not just the ones nmap reported 'open/filtered'
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698 [05:32:27] <abishai> jsw_: so what can I say, probably some nmap cmdline weirdness
699 [05:32:36] <jsw_> abishai, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with php enough to offer advice on that. What about netcat?
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703 [05:37:00] <abishai> jsw_: nc -vnzu server.ip 1-65535
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705 [05:37:40] <abishai> jsw_: reports ALL udp ports as '(UNKNOWN) [x.x.x.x] 65518 (?) open'
706 [05:38:39] <abishai> jsw_: I stopped scanning at port 64000 or so because it was getting ridiculous
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708 [05:39:06] <abishai> jsw_: can you try on your box
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711 [05:41:04] <userro> there are only 64000 ports you can't scan more
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714 [05:42:02] <abishai> nc started scanning from 65k downwards
715 [05:42:17] <userro> kk
716 [05:42:55] <jsw_> tldr I'd chalk it up to a red herring
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718 [05:43:12] <abishai> ?
719 [05:44:26] <jsw_> Unless both process bind to aport with the right flag IIUC the netcat test should have revealed any ports already in use. replaced-url
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726 [05:50:22] <veek> userro 2^16?
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728 [05:51:19] <userro> 65,536
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730 [05:51:24] <userro> just checked
731 [05:51:33] <userro> I thought it was 64000
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811 [06:59:04] <johanskizo> how to install wine version 2.2 in debian jessie
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816 [07:00:26] <theraspberry> johanskizo: replaced-url
817 [07:01:06] <johanskizo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
818 [07:01:06] <johanskizo> winehq-staging : Depends: wine-staging (= 2.2.0~jessie)
819 [07:01:17] <theraspberry> well
820 [07:01:25] <johanskizo> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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822 [07:01:41] <theraspberry> man, I love systems with broken packages.
823 [07:01:48] <theraspberry> sorry.
824 [07:01:55] <johanskizo> but i need solution
825 [07:02:09] <theraspberry> I can't help you right now. I just wanted to post the lmgtfy link.
826 [07:03:44] <johanskizo> but why?
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828 [07:06:19] <somiaj> johanskizo: where are you getting this wine-staging package? Anyways debian doesn't support winehq packages, are you just downloading the deb or ddi you add their repo.
829 [07:06:34] <somiaj> debian really only supports the debian wine packages.
830 [07:06:41] <somiaj> ,v wine-development
831 [07:06:42] <judd> Package: wine-development on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0-3; sid: 2.0-3; experimental: 2.1-1; experimental: 2.2-1
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833 [07:07:08] <somiaj> johanskizo: in which case wine-development of version 2.0 from jessie-backports is the newest that is available.
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835 [07:08:00] <johanskizo> somaj: can you send me link the package for 64bit system?
836 [07:08:33] <somiaj> in debian you will want to add the jessie-backports to your sources.list then apt-get -t jessie-backports install wine-development
837 [07:08:39] <somiaj> !jessie-backports
838 [07:08:39] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See <replaced-url
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880 [07:38:00] <kacie> hi
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886 [07:40:18] <kacie> man/info pages, READMEs
887 [07:40:41] <catbehemoth> !bdo
888 [07:40:41] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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894 [07:45:28] <catbehemoth> !bdo kernel
895 [07:45:29] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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919 [08:03:02] <kacie> ah, you must be the infamous apestate i've heard of
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932 [08:18:41] <bigterd> it has them marked as non-trimmed, but not technically rescued. i edited the logfile start position, and it keeps basically skipping and leaving them as non-trimmed.
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966 [08:39:02] <kingsley> After removing and adding PCI cards, why would all sound break expect for "bloop"s when adjusting pavucontrol's volume slider?
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977 [08:48:10] <Danielss89> Hi, i'm fairly new to linux, so this might be a dumb question. I'm trying to run apt-update but i'm getting "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
978 [08:48:30] <Shadow_7> Danielss89: df
979 [08:48:32] <Danielss89> When i run df i get: replaced-url
980 [08:48:44] <Danielss89> is apt using /dev/md1 ?
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983 [08:49:40] <Shadow_7> if there's a kernel update it will use /boot/
984 [08:49:46] <Shadow_7> or grub updates
985 [08:50:00] <Shadow_7> otherwise most of apt downloads go to /var/cache/apt/archives
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990 [08:51:31] <Danielss89> ok, any idea why i get the no space left?
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992 [08:51:49] <kingsley> Danielss89: Yeah, "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" looks a lot to me like apt-update failed trying to write data to a full frive.
993 [08:52:39] <kingsley> Danielss89: Oops! Sorry! I meant to write "...trying to write data to a full Drive".
994 [08:53:08] <Danielss89> but as i can see, only the boot one is full
995 [08:53:14] <Danielss89> and if it doesn't try to write that
996 [08:53:30] <Danielss89> actually
997 [08:53:31] <Danielss89> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-40-generic
998 [08:53:50] <Danielss89> can i assign more space to boot?
999 [08:53:51] <Danielss89> :D
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1002 [08:54:27] <kingsley> Danielss89: Why? I suspect a.) The drive is full. It happens. Just like Shadow_7 suggested, the "df" command should reveal full drives. b.) Maybe apt-update is writing to the wrong drive.
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1006 [08:54:41] <SPF> Danielss89: maybe you can try apt-get autoremove, in case you have multiple old kernels in /boot
1007 [08:54:53] <Danielss89> replaced-url
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1010 [08:56:42] <borsin> does /var exist - is /var on a partition not mounted? do you see a lost+found when ls -l /var?
1011 [08:57:24] <Danielss89> that helped a lot
1012 [08:57:27] <Danielss89> thanks guys
1013 [08:57:31] <Danielss89> 35% used on boot now
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1119 [10:15:26] <alioui_> judd, file Python.h
1120 [10:15:29] <judd> Search for Python.h in jessie/amd64: [truncated] python-cxx-dev: usr/include/CXX/WrapPython.h; libfontforge-dev: usr/include/fontforge/ffpython.h; libpyside-dev: usr/include/PySide/QtCore/pyside_qtcore_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtDeclarative/pyside_qtdeclarative_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtGui/pyside_qtgui_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtHelp/pyside_qthelp_python.h,
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1202 [11:07:24] <nezZario> Might be a really dumb question but I can't find it in the docs stated or implied really
1203 [11:07:46] <nezZario> In /etc/apt/preferences.d -- are the Pin Priorities .. is priority "1" a "high" or "low" priority ?
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1208 [11:12:15] <nezZario> Ahh disregard finally found a line that clarifies, .. higher number is higher priority
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1214 [11:15:26] <mernilio> Hello all! Debian men <-- my favorite kind of men!
1215 [11:15:41] <bazhang> hi mernilio
1216 [11:16:28] <mernilio> And debian woman! We do need more females here in free software!
1217 [11:16:40] <babilen> nezZario: Just out of curiosity: What are you trying to achieve?
1218 [11:16:44] <bazhang> mernilio, fnordistus?
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1220 [11:17:35] <mernilio> bazhang: Im not from iceland ^^
1221 [11:18:07] <bazhang> mernilio, #debian-offtopic for chatter
1222 [11:18:28] <mernilio> sure... note taken! ;-)
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1233 [11:26:20] <nezZario> babilen: nginx with http2 + learn how to use preferences
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1239 [11:27:59] <nezZario> So alright, this all makes pretty decent sense and I'm fairly confident except I don't understand the a= n= v= c= o= l= options on the Pin: line.. Particularly the Component, Origin, and Label
1240 [11:28:26] <nezZario> It makes perfect sense when we're using the official Debian repos, but how do I find the Label or Origin of a third party repository ?
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1247 [11:31:11] <nezZario> Hm actually apt-cache policy shows some of the info
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1255 [11:34:57] <babilen> nezZario: Which version of Debian do you run?
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1258 [11:35:20] <babilen> I'd *strongly* recommend to not mix releases
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1264 [11:38:08] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1~bpo8+1
1265 [11:38:26] <babilen> nezZario: I have some deployments with http2 running on jessie with nginx from jessie-backports ^^
1266 [11:38:44] <babilen> (assuming you run jessie)
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1313 [12:12:12] <kacie> mass router updates?
1314 [12:12:15] <quack_> Hi
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1317 [12:13:14] <quack_> Can someone link me a pirate copy of linux pleas. my neighbour gifted me this computer but i don't know how to upgrade it
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1319 [12:13:34] <quack_> Linux 10 please
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1321 [12:13:40] <bazhang> quack_, no such thing
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1323 [12:13:45] <kacie> its free quack
1324 [12:13:49] <bazhang> quack_, go play elsewhere
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1326 [12:13:59] <kacie> no need to link here
1327 [12:14:04] <quack_> bazhang please link it, linux 10
1328 [12:14:16] <bazhang> quack_, stop asking
1329 [12:14:39] <bazhang> !ops | quack_ trolling
1330 [12:14:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | quack_ trolling
1331 [12:14:45] <quack_> I neeed linux 10 to watch vidoes
1332 [12:14:51] <kacie> la la la, life is also free so enjoy the ride
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1335 [12:15:34] <quack_> I walways see the flash player message, I downloaded it but it doesn't work.
1336 [12:15:35] <bazhang> quack_, there is no such thing, stop asking
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1339 [12:16:00] <bazhang> quack_, there is no linux 10, stop the nonsense
1340 [12:16:05] <quack_> How can I watch videos on my computer? My daughter needs this for scholl too
1341 [12:16:15] <kacie> bazhang ruins the fun
1342 [12:16:39] <kacie> bazhang :)
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1348 [12:18:32] <quack_> Don't fucking call me racist
1349 [12:18:40] <quack_> systemd fucked my machine
1350 [12:18:49] <quack_> I had to send it to the fuciking tip
1351 [12:19:04] <quack_> I also beat my wife because of systemd
1352 [12:19:18] <quack_> Ian killed himslfpo because of systemd
1353 [12:19:52] <quack_> I killed my child because systemd
1354 [12:19:53] <kacie> quack runlevel -666 is your best chance of survival
1355 [12:19:56] <Pepe> Hello guys
1356 [12:20:00] <Pepe> what can I do with replaced-url
1357 [12:20:06] <quack_> Pepe
1358 [12:20:21] <quack_> systemd made me kill my own child
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1360 [12:20:37] <kacie> im out. server updates early tomorrow
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1363 [12:21:58] <kacie> btw ops, kill the trolls
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1390 [12:32:26] <nezZario> So, just out of curiosity
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1393 [12:33:42] <nezZario> There is, for example, replaced-url
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1398 [12:35:44] <abrotman> What is sury.org?
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1401 [12:37:12] <nezZario> Some third party apt repo
1402 [12:37:36] <nezZario> i.e. I have deb replaced-url
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1404 [12:37:42] <abrotman> nezZario: I'd say no
1405 [12:37:51] <abrotman> (though, I also wouldn't be using third party repos like that)
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1412 [12:41:14] <Pepe> hm noone can help me?:(
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1414 [12:41:23] <nezZario> Honestly? I'm not even going to use them right now -- that's actually why I'm asking this. What I need is _currently_ in debian testing and I'll just enable it like that. Note that there are only a few packages in each of these repos (... they're not complete systems)
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1416 [12:42:17] <nezZario> What I want to do is put those repositories in my server templates, .. both _individually_ with a Priority of -1 .. so if a month from now, .. I want to pull/upgrade php from that repo it's easy ..
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1418 [12:42:24] <nezZario> And honestly I'm downright curious about this
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1422 [12:45:34] <babilen> nezZario: As I said: Use nginx from jessie-backports
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1427 [12:48:16] <tw> How do I properly set up a user service unit to kill itself prior to sleep/hibernation/hybrid and execute a restore function after wake if it was killed this way? I guess more simply, how do I define units that execute some action prior to PM stops and after PM wakes?
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1440 [12:53:12] <tw> More specifically I need to unmount/unlock network resources like SMB and kill some 3rd party programs that don't like hibernation or cause restores to take a really long time until they time out.
1441 [12:53:37] <Alina-malina> I need to convert some pdf file to html, but i get encoding messup with pdftohtml, is there anyway to convert it correctly?
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1444 [12:54:38] <thyriaen> i am trying to get f.lux ( replaced-url
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1446 [12:56:36] <nkuttler> Alina-malina: just set the encoding to whatever it is in the html head
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1456 [13:02:33] <Alina-malina> nkuttler, where?
1457 [13:03:40] <tw> in the browser or in the http.
1458 [13:03:49] <tw> *httpd
1459 [13:03:52] <sherm> replaced-url
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1462 [13:04:37] <Alina-malina> its a pdf file in
1463 [13:04:40] <Alina-malina> local directory
1464 [13:04:45] <Alina-malina> i need to convert it to html
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1467 [13:05:10] <Alina-malina> when i do this the html file text becomes unreadable
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1469 [13:05:18] <Alina-malina> and it is content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"
1470 [13:05:43] <Alina-malina> how to check the encoding of pdf file instead? the problem is in pdf side not html
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1472 [13:05:59] <sherm> what program are you using to do the convert?
1473 [13:06:12] <Alina-malina> pdftohtml
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1477 [13:08:18] <StoBrendo> Hi there . I would want to backup my debian jessie/8 system easily. Could someone point me to the easiest (safest) way?
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1481 [13:09:43] <sherm> I think there may be a problem with your input PDF. There is another PDF conversion prog that may be worth trying: pdf2htmlex
1482 [13:10:03] <Alina-malina> ok let me try it
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1484 [13:10:48] <sherm> StoBrendo: this is a massive topic and depends on lots of factors. Take a look at rsync.
1485 [13:11:23] <thecha> is there any proprietary software in debian?
1486 [13:11:37] <thecha> or is there only some in the repositories
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1489 [13:13:03] <StoBrendo> thecha: i think you only fetch propietary software in debian if you add non-free to your sources.list
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1493 [13:15:30] <StoBrendo> sherm: my best bullet atm is, replaced-url
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1496 [13:19:07] <sherm> StoBrendo: my preferred technique is to run a nightly cron script, using rsync, to do the backup. Mirrored discs (RAID) are good too but don't prevent against human error. This may be useful for you: replaced-url
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1501 [13:22:01] <StoBrendo> sherm: rsync does not seem a good choice to me, since its just a directory tree copy. I would rather preffer tar with xz compression. But I was thinking in something like dar , I usually find nice debian's wiki articles that help you to not end having a frankestein system ( ej: replaced-url
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1504 [13:22:54] <tw> raid, even mirroring, is not backup. anecdotally, I've recently had a raid1 failure that replicated errors to both disks.
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1506 [13:23:25] <sherm> you want to image your entire disc each time you make a backup?
1507 [13:24:01] <sherm> yes, i know RAID doesn't protect you against file corruption or doing something stupid!
1508 [13:24:30] <tw> This was a hardware controller failure.
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1511 [13:24:47] <sherm> ah, that's a bugger, sorry to hear
1512 [13:24:56] <tw> Wasn't a problem, backups were there.
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1514 [13:25:05] <StoBrendo> sherm: could you share what do you understand for the word: backup ?
1515 [13:25:25] <StoBrendo> backup isn't just a copuy
1516 [13:25:31] <StoBrendo> s/copuy/copy/g
1517 [13:25:46] <sherm> making sufficient copies of data to avoid data loss in the future
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1519 [13:25:59] <sherm> i guess it depends on what sufficient means for you requirements
1520 [13:26:01] <StoBrendo> the same way software versioning isn't a bunch of directory with different names organized by date
1521 [13:26:13] <StoBrendo> s/directory/directories/
1522 [13:27:33] <StoBrendo> sherm: to me what you say is "if i would have to write a large project i wouldn't use neither git nor subversion not anything like that but just a naming pattern for a huge number of directories that would keep track of what each thing is"
1523 [13:27:48] <StoBrendo> s/write a large project/write a large software project/
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1525 [13:28:01] <StoBrendo> s/not anything/nor anything/
1526 [13:28:08] <sherm> you would need version control for a large project
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1528 [13:28:22] <StoBrendo> you would need a real backup for a real not frankestein system
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1530 [13:28:38] <StoBrendo> or your backup flow would frankestein-ize your system
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1532 [13:29:21] <sherm> are you taking incremental backups nightly then more substantial backups weekly?
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1535 [13:30:23] <StoBrendo> the frequency of the backup is irrelevant to determine whether its a good way of doing it or not
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1537 [13:30:54] <sherm> how are you hoping to implement it?
1538 [13:31:08] <StoBrendo> I don't hope the things i do.
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1542 [13:31:27] <StoBrendo> but i surely will use a bash/python script
1543 [13:31:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
1544 [13:31:45] <StoBrendo> \o
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1546 [13:32:28] <sherm> i'm interested in your plans for the design of this backup system?
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1549 [13:33:33] <StoBrendo> sherm: the plan is , collect information > do the proccess manually > automatize it
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1551 [13:33:48] <StoBrendo> i'm in step 1 right now
1552 [13:34:16] <StoBrendo> and multitasking , thus the urge of backup what i already have
1553 [13:34:32] <StoBrendo> humans commit failures when multitasking xP
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1565 [13:43:45] <aZz7eCh> If i have a script in cron.hourly ... and i chmod -x it, leaving it in that folder, and reboot machine, its no longer run, correct ?
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1567 [13:44:00] <aZz7eCh> i can just +x it later if i want it back, being my plan ...
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1575 [13:48:42] <Michael-jx> Hello , this is your videogame for pc windows ? replaced-url
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1580 [13:51:06] <dionysus69> are sh and bash commands identical to execute shell script files?
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1582 [13:51:56] <tw> dionysus69: No. Oh no, no no no. Bash is a superset of sh. If it runs in sh, it will most likely run in bash. The reverse is not true.
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1587 [13:55:50] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: it wont be running still . But it would keep its permissions (its still executable)
1588 [13:55:54] <sherm> AFAIK: sh is POSIX compatible, bash can run in POSIX mode making it more like sh
1589 [13:56:42] <aZz7eCh> how would it keep its permissions StoBrendo ? what do you mean buddy?
1590 [13:57:19] <aZz7eCh> you mean cron can still execute it if its no longer got x permissions?
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1592 [13:58:20] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: ls -l /path/to/chmoded/file
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1599 [14:03:34] <aZz7eCh> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3208 Feb 19 2016 autosuspend
1600 [14:05:34] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: now do sudo chmod +a /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_
1601 [14:05:45] <StoBrendo> sorry
1602 [14:05:58] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: sudo chmod +x /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_
1603 [14:06:04] <StoBrendo> it was +x instead of +a :P
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1650 [14:31:55] <aZz7eCh> but that will make it executable again, no?
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1654 [14:33:51] <abrotman> aZz7eCh: yes
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1656 [14:34:29] <user___> i dont hav swapspace. if i use "systemctl hibernate", wat wud happen?
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1659 [14:35:19] <aZz7eCh> so confusing lol. i think StoBrendo just missed i was trying to confirm -x'ing would stop the cron from running without moving the file
1660 [14:35:30] <aZz7eCh> sounds like i've done it right.
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1662 [14:36:18] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: if you achieved what you wanted then you did it right. (all but understanding it)
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1664 [14:37:57] <tdn> Where can I find guidelines for how to upgrade PostgreSQL when upgrading Debian from 7 to 8?
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1671 [14:39:24] <aZz7eCh> well i understand giving a file executable permissions or not .. question was will cron obey that
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1673 [14:39:50] <aZz7eCh> if i missed something further, enlighten me :P
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1676 [14:40:25] <user___> wat wud happen if i run "systemctl hibernate" without swap partition?
1677 [14:40:57] <abrotman> user___: try it, let us know
1678 [14:41:21] <user___> i dont want to screwup now
1679 [14:41:28] <abrotman> then don't try it ..
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1684 [14:42:56] <abrotman> user___: or create a swap file, you don't need a whole partition
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1687 [14:43:18] <awal1> user___, without swap partition, you still can use ^
1688 [14:43:22] <awal1> follow replaced-url
1689 [14:43:34] <user___> ok
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1702 [14:47:53] <veek> is there a way to reduce the clutter that iptables -log generates? can i specify the fields i want
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1704 [14:48:04] <tw> Not that this is your question, but why wouldn't you have swap space? the virtual memory subsystem has a purpose. Even on systems with 72 GB of ram, I still allocate swap space.
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1739 [15:08:38] <stoned> I use swap file, I have MBR, can' afford to waste a partition
1740 [15:08:43] <stoned> I only use 4 primaries.
1741 [15:09:55] <stoned> And if anyone cares, this is the goofy script I wrote to throw in for ansible or other preseeding things.
1742 [15:10:06] <stoned> replaced-url
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1754 [15:17:51] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: you only have to look for cron's user and for file's permissions . That way you could know
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1757 [15:19:06] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: btw, if you find something which doesn't follow filesystem rules , don't forget to /msg me
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1766 [15:21:24] <rdococ> why does debhelper set channel limits?
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1769 [15:22:33] <joze> there may be join floods from botnets
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1773 [15:25:03] <rdococ> k
1774 [15:25:14] <rdococ> what bout leave floods?
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1776 [15:25:32] <joze> only on spring
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1779 [15:26:54] <fredl> hi folks, does anybody know how to make sure a package comes from the backports repository in a preseeded install?
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1782 [15:27:13] <unborn> rdococ: you can safely remove join and leave messages..
1783 [15:27:17] <unborn> no flood at all.
1784 [15:27:26] <fredl> I have:
1785 [15:27:29] <fredl> d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string \
1786 [15:27:29] <fredl> replaced-url
1787 [15:27:37] <fredl> in my preseed file
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1789 [15:28:19] <fredl> but when I do d-i pkgsel/include string nvidia-driver I get the regular package, not the one from backports
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1794 [15:29:59] <fredl> ah figured it out already
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1813 [15:38:29] <mernilio> Hi all .. im banned from "debian-off-topic" :-P
1814 [15:38:34] <mernilio> haha
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1816 [15:38:54] <mernilio> can any of you adjust it?
1817 [15:39:06] <towo`> use the right network
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1819 [15:39:24] <Shadow_7_> for starters it's #debian-offtopic
1820 [15:39:25] <towo`> #debian-offtopic is on oftc, not freenode
1821 [15:39:33] <mernilio> Im willing to do anything dude! :-|
1822 [15:39:48] <ByteStorm> lap dance
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1824 [15:40:02] <mernilio> lap dance? .. :-P
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1826 [15:40:51] <mernilio> With my aged body i suppose you dont appreciate it...
1827 [15:41:04] <mernilio> :-)
1828 [15:41:07] <ByteStorm> np,ill manage
1829 [15:41:19] <zykotick9> towo`: actually -offtopic is on both networks...
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1831 [15:41:21] <CQ> what's the best way to "move" a system, if I am forced to reinstall to a new machine? i.e. I want to reinstall, then copy all configuration etc. over...
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1833 [15:41:33] <mernilio> But sure... i have some moves! :-)
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1836 [15:42:04] <mernilio> I can stuff around! :-)
1837 [15:42:34] <mernilio> like a negro.
1838 [15:42:40] <mernilio> haha
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1840 [15:43:28] <mernilio> a racist remark .. sorry
1841 [15:43:31] <mernilio> :-)
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1843 [15:44:23] <mernilio> I dont care about color.. but you whitys have an issue! It seems.
1844 [15:46:04] <mernilio> What is color anyway? Im a rapper and in my world colour dont mean a thing!
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1846 [15:46:54] <mernilio> haha :-)
1847 [15:47:27] <mernilio> I try to be nice! :-)
1848 [15:49:34] <unborn> wth?
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1850 [15:50:10] <mernilio> I know i can be offensive .. but thanks for having me! :-)
1851 [15:50:27] <unborn> mernilio: how this have anything to do with debian?
1852 [15:50:29] <mernilio> word goes to unborn
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1856 [15:51:15] <mernilio> unborn: im banned from that other channel...
1857 [15:51:51] <awal1> probably soon form here too
1858 [15:51:55] <mernilio> They didnt appreciated my enormously big penis.
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1860 [15:52:07] <Shadow_7_> unborn: cause... apt-get install xiphos bible-kjv
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1862 [15:52:18] <mernilio> sorry :-)
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1865 [15:52:42] <awal1> !ops: mernilio trolling
1866 [15:53:07] <mernilio> Im a good guy, and i support debian as well! :-)
1867 [15:53:10] <unborn> !ops mernilio spam
1868 [15:53:10] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: unborn complains about: mernilio spam
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1870 [15:54:17] <mernilio> What is that list? :-)
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1872 [15:55:01] <mernilio> Like some sort of hate crime!
1873 [15:55:31] <Shadow_7_> Looks like a /msg to all the ops
1874 [15:55:43] <mernilio> Now i have an issue with you!
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1876 [15:55:59] <Shadow_7_> It wouldn't be a date if you didn't have issues
1877 [15:56:11] <unborn> mernilio: I am pain in but for admins here, sometimes I just dont know where to stop, but at least I have some point which is very different from you.
1878 [15:56:30] <mernilio> Sure thing dude!
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1880 [15:57:14] <unborn> *butt.. anyway this is debian support chan and please - if you have nothing to contribute to help anyone here, just go off-topic or learn...noone needs to read crap.
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1884 [15:59:25] <mernilio> What gives dude? :-P
1885 [16:00:08] <mernilio> English polise men are so lame btw! :-)
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1889 [16:01:05] <mernilio> You have my respect tho! I tip my hat for you officer!
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1900 [16:06:33] <stoned> *sigh*
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1902 [16:06:46] <stoned> Is there a single day I can live in this world and not be exposed to racism. FFS.
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1904 [16:06:51] <stoned> *afk*
1905 [16:07:11] <Shadow_7_> some call it camping... in the absence of other humans
1906 [16:07:14] <unborn> heh.. not again please
1907 [16:07:16] <stoned> Heh.
1908 [16:07:26] <stoned> I'm going afk, butnicely done. /me smiles
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1911 [16:07:56] <Shadow_7_> But then you experience species-ism. Bears just want to eat you up
1912 [16:08:01] <abrotman> Is there a single day I can live in this world without people commenting on trolls ... FFS
1913 [16:08:10] <abrotman> Moving on ...
1914 [16:09:16] <stoned> abrotman: go camping!
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1922 [16:15:37] <Mathisen> is it bad practice to have samba shares in my /home/user folder ? it seem all guides use /mnt/whatever
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1926 [16:16:04] <abrotman> Mathisen: are they just for your user?
1927 [16:16:16] <Mathisen> abrotman, yes
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1929 [16:16:42] * abrotman doesn't see a problem with it then
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1931 [16:17:36] <sherm> Mathisen: good subject change, well excuted
1932 [16:17:50] <Mathisen> okej but lets say i made a folder for "everyone" with read only,
1933 [16:17:53] <Mathisen> still okej ?
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1938 [16:23:44] <grafdiffuzor> Hello. My mc thinks my term has no 256 colors, while running under screen. $TERM is xterm-256color while no screen, and screen.xterm-256color while under screen.
1939 [16:24:07] <grafdiffuzor> The question is how to fix mc to understand term has support for 256 colors?
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1946 [16:30:24] <ericnoan> mc? do you get any colors at all?
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1951 [16:34:25] <edeca> ericnoan: Midnight Commander maybe?
1952 [16:34:53] <ericnoan> people still use that? /s
1953 [16:35:03] * edeca shrugs :)
1954 [16:35:14] <edeca> What doesn't ls do? Heh
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1956 [16:35:26] <ericnoan> yah, or cp/mv
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1959 [16:37:04] <grafdiffuzor> ericnoan seems like 16 colors
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1962 [16:37:42] <ericnoan> so you notice colors are missing while using screen?
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1965 [16:39:13] <grafdiffuzor> only in mc
1966 [16:39:19] <grafdiffuzor> ll seems to have 256 colors
1967 [16:39:29] <grafdiffuzor> that is, ls -l
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1970 [16:40:22] <grafdiffuzor> that started after I upgraded from Jessie to Stretch
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1972 [16:40:57] <ericnoan> grafdiffuzor: have you read replaced-url
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1975 [16:43:27] <Shadow_7_> grafdiffuzor: in a terminal? export TERM=xterm ...or... export TERM=xterm-256color
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1978 [16:44:10] <grafdiffuzor> well, I do have 256 colors while in term (xfce4-terminal), it just changes when I run mc under screen there
1979 [16:44:13] <ericnoan> also, mc seems to start in 16 colors mode by default, you have to load a special skin to get 256 colors. can't you live with 16 colors?
1980 [16:44:33] <Shadow_7_> I think TERM=xterm == 16 colors
1981 [16:45:03] <ericnoan> if i go to options -> appearance and set a 256 color skin, i get an error
1982 [16:45:24] <ericnoan> tell us if you figure it out :)
1983 [16:45:53] <Shadow_7_> there's a difference for things like ... emacs -nw -l /usr/share/emacs/24.4/etc/themes/wheatgrass-theme
1984 [16:45:56] <Shadow_7_> .el /usr/include/stdio.h
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2061 [17:36:02] <dionysus69> tw: thanks :)
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2097 [17:55:42] <awal1> no alwaysfocused style?
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2103 [17:59:18] <awal1> I want to get a few apps always focused when I display them pressing the hotkey(s) even no matters which window has focus previously. I'm refering to tilda and guake terminals
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2105 [17:59:52] <awal1> - even
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2109 [18:00:38] <cm2> anyone knows why freetype 2.7 ain't in sid yet?
2110 [18:00:59] <awal1> ouuups, wrong channel :P
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2112 [18:01:12] <cm2> awal1: me?
2113 [18:01:20] <awal1> I tought I was in fvwm channel
2114 [18:01:30] <cm2> awal1: ah. no. :)
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2116 [18:01:42] <awal1> cm2, me, not you :P
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2119 [18:02:00] <cm2> awal1: aye. carry on friend.
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2121 [18:02:58] <cm2> anyone knows? sid, freetype, 2.7 ?
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2125 [18:05:33] <awal1> it may be in experimental
2126 [18:05:38] <awal1> check pts
2127 [18:05:51] <cm2> awal1: i didn't even think to check
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2132 [18:08:16] <cm2> awal1: i don't see it on the webpage
2133 [18:09:07] <dob1> do I have to uncomment #AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys in sshd_config if i am using key auth for ssh?
2134 [18:09:37] <cm2> dob1: yes. but check the file is named authorized_keys
2135 [18:09:46] <cm2> dob1: sometimes it's authorized_keys2
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2137 [18:10:22] <dob1> cm2, in the sshd_config or the file in the .ssh directory?
2138 [18:10:31] <cm2> dob1: they have to match
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2140 [18:10:39] <cm2> so check both
2141 [18:11:33] <dob1> cm2, thanks
2142 [18:11:35] <awal1> cm2, it may not be in debian yet, not all pkgs go trough experimental
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2147 [18:13:06] <cm2> awal1: thanks. i guess i should mail the maintainer.
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2154 [18:14:22] <jhutchins> ,v firefox
2155 [18:14:23] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 51.0.1-3~bpo80+1; sid: 51.0.1-3; experimental: 52.0~b9-1
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2161 [18:15:18] <jrtc27> TIL judd knows about mozilla.debian.net
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2163 [18:16:00] <somiaj> !tell cm2 about slushy
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2166 [18:17:39] <cm2> somiaj: do tell, because the bot didn't say anything
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2169 [18:18:56] <cm2> somiaj: splashy?
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2173 [18:20:47] <somiaj> cm2: did you not read what the bot told you? It says that sid is basically frozen until the release of stretch, so many packages won't be upgraded in sid until after the release of stretch
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2175 [18:21:02] <somiaj> it would have been in a privage message, maybe you have those turned off
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2177 [18:21:30] <cm2> somiaj: ah. yes.
2178 [18:22:04] <cm2> somiaj: thanks.
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2284 [19:42:15] <Torinko> Hello
2285 [19:42:42] <Torinko> anybody would like to help me put program to repository?
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2287 [19:44:44] <towo`> Torinko, you propably want to join #debian-mentors
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2290 [19:45:14] <Torinko> towo`: for closed source too? (Thanks)
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2299 [19:50:53] <xsub0> criptografia cuantica
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2302 [19:52:18] <La09x09> I cant find caffeine-gtk package
2303 [19:52:33] <La09x09> so in mate, I cant make "caffeine" package show up in panel
2304 [19:53:17] <missmbob> La09x09: it's just caffeine
2305 [19:53:37] <La09x09> missmbob, but I want to turn it on and off through notification panel
2306 [19:53:40] <missmbob> oh for gnome you need gnome-shell-extension-caffeine
2307 [19:53:46] <La09x09> I use mate
2308 [19:53:47] <La09x09> not gnome
2309 [19:53:53] <missmbob> then that's it. run it
2310 [19:54:06] <jhutchins> Interesting. It appears that if your kernel is from wheezy backports, it will upgrade to jessie backports.
2311 [19:54:07] <La09x09> it doesnt show up in menu (panel)
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2313 [19:54:21] <missmbob> La09x09: alt+f2
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2315 [19:54:39] <n___> i'm building linux-ppc32/64 kernels, and trying to cut out all unnecessary drivers.. is there a tool that will assess a generic system, the modules in it, compare that to whats loaded, and look at the dmesg to see what hw is available.. then kick out a .config file with drivers for hw that actually exists?
2316 [19:54:50] <La09x09> missmbob, I know but how can I see that in panel? to know the current status of caffeine
2317 [19:54:56] <missmbob> La09x09: might have to run caffeine-indicator
2318 [19:55:15] <La09x09> missmbob, great!. worked. thanks
2319 [19:55:18] <n___> silver lining: i found out I can upgrade the processor in my G4 to a 7448 with a higher clockspeed
2320 [19:55:22] <n___> lol
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2322 [19:55:27] <La09x09> missmbob, so caffeine is necessary for netflix right?
2323 [19:55:34] <jhutchins> n___: Boot the system, lsmod > modules.needed
2324 [19:55:38] <La09x09> In arch, I didnt need caffeine. strange.
2325 [19:55:48] <missmbob> La09x09: i wouldnt know
2326 [19:56:23] <n___> jhutchins: yeah, I'm more of a bsd kernel programmer.. I have done a ton with linux, but the basic commands (like lsmod over modstat or kldinfo are confusing)
2327 [19:56:42] <n___> as are the kernel symbol_names_formatted_this_way compared to symname
2328 [19:56:44] <n___> ;)
2329 [19:56:55] <n___> jhutchins thx though
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2332 [19:59:13] <n___> jhutchins -- lsmod piped to modules.needed is all good but i guess i am looking for a utility to translate that into .config syntax
2333 [19:59:26] <n___> so I can just throw it in /usr/src/linux and make -j33
2334 [19:59:55] <n___> That would be a useful utility I think, to create a starting point for .config if nothing else than to give one the necessary (and only the necessary) drivers
2335 [20:00:02] <La09x09> missmbob, and for sound, I can put it max through settings. then it goes back to default (lower than maximum)
2336 [20:00:08] <n___> other features could be then added with make config/menuconfig/etc.
2337 [20:01:13] <missmbob> La09x09: have you installed/run pavucontrol?
2338 [20:01:35] <jhutchins> n___: I think I'd do it manually. At least take a look at how long the list is.
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2340 [20:02:24] <jhutchins> n___: With Linux' modular architecture, the kernel itself is a pretty standard size, and you only load the modules you need, so the only thing you save by not building unneeded modules is disk space.
2341 [20:02:29] <La09x09> missmbob, yes I have it installed.
2342 [20:02:45] <missmbob> La09x09: is that what you're using? i dont know if mate uses it
2343 [20:03:04] <jhutchins> n___: There's not much to be gained by building everything into the kernel, and the initrd should only have required modules in it.
2344 [20:03:32] <jhutchins> Looks like going multiarch is finally cleaning up the old kde install I had.
2345 [20:03:45] <La09x09> missmbob, when I put the volume to maximum and then press volume keys on laptop, it goes back to medium(default) volume
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2347 [20:04:18] <missmbob> La09x09: sounds like alsa but i'm not sure how to help you with that. hopefully someone else will
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2379 [20:18:07] <ewew> Hi. Is someone here who has experience with ddrescue ?
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2394 [20:24:58] <Hestben> ewew: yes. Please state your question so we can help you.
2395 [20:25:16] <ewew> rescued: 127242 MB, errsize: 1351 MB, current rate: 5120 B/s ago[[B^[[ ipos: 228927 MB, errors: 31025, average rate: 214 kB/s[[B^[[B^[[ opos: 228927 MB, run time: 6.86 d, successful read: 0 s ago
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2397 [20:25:47] <ewew> on fs its about 229 GB big. why is there a big difference.
2398 [20:26:40] <Hestben> You mean the difference between rescued and the actual size?
2399 [20:26:45] <ewew> yes
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2404 [20:28:05] <Hestben> Hmm, I don't have that much experience with dd_rescue, but it might be that it could not read the other sectors
2405 [20:28:17] <Hestben> there are 31025 errors
2406 [20:28:37] <Hestben> ewew: isn't it still running?
2407 [20:28:44] <ewew> yes.
2408 [20:29:14] <Hestben> so, it states the currently rescued size, and will work until it has finished copying all the sectors it can
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2410 [20:30:02] <ewew> is there a chance of overruning of total size of rescued partition ?
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2412 [20:30:50] <bauerj> Hey, any idea why df shows that there are 0B available? replaced-url
2413 [20:31:20] <bauerj> If I substract "used" from "1K-blocks" I get a remaining size of about 500MiB
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2415 [20:31:43] <bauerj> I'm also able to create new files so the filesystem can't really be full
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2417 [20:32:35] <Hestben> bauerj: It is probably rounded up
2418 [20:33:36] <bauerj> Does "available" usually show a different unit than "used"?
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2420 [20:33:58] <Hestben> bauerj: I don't know
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2424 [20:34:38] <Hestben> bauerj: You are really running on the very limits of the file system though. Many people recommend filling up partitions to no more than 70%
2425 [20:34:42] <axujen> hello
2426 [20:34:48] <bauerj> Okay, I think it's unlikely that it would round 400M to 0 though^^
2427 [20:34:52] <bauerj> Yes, you're right
2428 [20:35:16] <axujen> anyone with experience with the intel gma 500 gpu? im looking to install the proprietary driver or anything that can give decent video playback
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2430 [20:35:47] <missmbob> bauerj: which os?
2431 [20:35:55] <Hestben> bauerj: might depend on the fs-type as well.
2432 [20:35:59] <bauerj> Debian GNU/Linux 8
2433 [20:36:08] <bauerj> It's ext4 on LVM
2434 [20:36:10] <missmbob> i meant fs
2435 [20:36:13] <bauerj> ok^^
2436 [20:36:20] <missmbob> ext4 reserves 5% for root by default
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2438 [20:36:43] <bauerj> Well, that would make sense
2439 [20:37:02] <Hestben> missmbob: Oh, so the space that ext4 does reserve doesnt end up in "Used"?
2440 [20:37:40] <bauerj> But I'm also able to use space as a non-root user
2441 [20:37:47] <missmbob> not if there are none used, i'm pretty sure not
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2443 [20:38:34] <missmbob> eh, i dont see that. on same install?
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2445 [20:38:45] <jhutchins> bauerj: Might be interesting to do df -h
2446 [20:38:51] <jhutchins> su -sh /*
2447 [20:39:00] <jhutchins> du -sh /* sorry
2448 [20:39:04] <ewew> Hestben Could it be that zeros are not counted ?
2449 [20:39:45] <Hestben> ewew: In currently rescued space? I think zeroes are counted, if it is part of the data.
2450 [20:39:55] <bauerj> Okay, missmbob was right
2451 [20:40:02] <bauerj> tune2fs -m 0 /dev/dm-0 and now it shows it correctly
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2453 [20:40:12] <jhutchins> axujen: Most intel chipsets are supported by open source drivers. lspci -nn and post the PCIID.
2454 [20:40:20] <bauerj> Thanks!
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2456 [20:40:50] <missmbob> great
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2459 [20:41:58] <axujen> jhutchins, not this card no, its one card that doesnt have good open source drivers :/
2460 [20:42:05] <jhutchins> brb
2461 [20:42:26] <ewew> Hestben the problem is if i attempt to get some data, the tool report for example 213 GB image
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2463 [20:42:33] <axujen> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller [8086:8108] (rev 07)
2464 [20:42:36] <Hestben> bauerj: Be adviced that ext4 may not have any space left to rescue files if the computer suddenly loses power in that filled up state the fs is in.
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2466 [20:43:23] <bauerj> Okay, I'll try to slim down the system somehow to get a bit of space back
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2468 [20:43:59] <Hestben> ewew: You mean, the partition you are rescuing is not really filled completely, and you want it to only copy the data that is used? I'm not sure, but it may be that dd_rescue will copy the partition bit by bit as it is.
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2470 [20:44:29] <ewew> im wondering if something did not get corrupted.
2471 [20:44:31] <Hestben> ewew: It may not care anything about what fs is on the partition, and thus does not know and care about how filled it is.
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2477 [20:47:31] <ewew> Hestben why is it so slow ?
2478 [20:47:58] <axujen> jhutchins, 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) [8086:8100] (rev 07)
2479 [20:48:03] <Hestben> The amount of read errors suggest that it has to restart a lot.
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2481 [20:48:45] <Hestben> ewew: But I have mostly used it to copy dvds before, so I am not an expert on how many read errors are normal etc.
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2483 [20:49:08] <ewew> well im copying a 450 GB partition on failing disk.
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2485 [20:50:21] <Hestben> ewew: I feel with you. One of those late reminders of the importance of having a working backup of critical files etc
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2487 [20:50:49] <Hestben> ewew: and using smartd that monitors disks and sends out mails when error counts goes up
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2493 [20:54:29] <ewew> Hestben I wonder how long it will take to finish this. Its not funny to have computer running 6 days in the row.
2494 [20:56:14] <Hestben> ewew: Yes, I can see that that is frustrating. I guess you could make a guess from the "mean rate" and how much data remains to copy.
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2498 [20:58:20] <ewew> im on the fly extracting data. so i know whats there.
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2503 [21:03:32] <Shadow_7_> RPi's are good for dumb copies. With docking stations ofc.
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2507 [21:04:39] <caesar__> Test
2508 [21:05:35] <Torinko> new branch test on irc
2509 [21:05:46] <Torinko> caesar__: interesting
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2511 [21:06:34] <caesar__> i cant see my typing words...
2512 [21:06:43] <Torinko> i see too
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2525 [21:12:46] <mendi> hi friends debian or centos for hosting?
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2527 [21:13:19] <mendi> im more familiar with deb but centos seems to eat way less resources (~130MB)
2528 [21:13:47] <th_> debian 4 life
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2531 [21:14:21] <bzed> mendi: the size of the installer does not tell you how much it needs on disk.
2532 [21:14:25] <caesar__> Torkino_ Now i see my written words :-) I've changed my textcolours :-)
2533 [21:14:27] <mendi> any idea on how much the no gui version eats eats?
2534 [21:14:36] <mendi> @bzed im talking about ram
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2536 [21:14:54] <mendi> im kinda limited to 1GB
2537 [21:14:59] <th_> kevin mitnick ^ hello
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2540 [21:15:15] <th_> :D
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2542 [21:16:34] <th_> so mysql is now mariadb on debian?
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2545 [21:17:50] <somiaj> I belive both are available, choose the one you want.
2546 [21:17:52] <somiaj> ,v mysql
2547 [21:17:54] <judd> No package named 'mysql' was found in amd64.
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2552 [21:18:39] <somiaj> hmm, guess I'm not seeing mysql in stretch, in jessie you have both.
2553 [21:18:51] <mendi> mariadb is the engine
2554 [21:18:59] <somiaj> ,v mysql-client
2555 [21:19:00] <judd> Package: mysql-client on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.53-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.54-0+deb7u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.7.17-1
2556 [21:19:02] <th_> i installed mariadb, but the server is still called "mysqld"
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2558 [21:19:50] <mendi> does debian have uptodate apache repository?
2559 [21:20:07] <somiaj> mendi: what do you mean by that? You want a newer version of apache in say debian jessie?
2560 [21:20:10] <somiaj> ,v apache2
2561 [21:20:11] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u8; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u7; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u8; stretch: 2.4.25-3; sid: 2.4.25-3
2562 [21:20:30] <mendi> in centos we have to compile them ourselves @somiaj
2563 [21:20:30] <somiaj> mendi: looks like the offically supported apache in debian is 2.4.10
2564 [21:20:43] <mendi> does debian have a compiled pkg
2565 [21:21:19] <somiaj> mendi: the bot just listed the version of apache that comes with the different debian releases. In jessie if you want something newer than 2.4.10 you'll have to compile it yourself and also provide security support yourself.
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2567 [21:21:35] <bzed> somiaj, mendi: mysql 5.7 is in stretch
2568 [21:21:54] <somiaj> bzed: what is the package name, I couldn't find it.
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2570 [21:22:19] <bzed> mendi: ram is also not a question of the distribution. it depend son the softwre you are usung and the traffic.
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2572 [21:23:09] <somiaj> bzed: I am seing various packages that work with mysql, but not seeing the mysql-client or mysql-server in stretch.
2573 [21:23:13] <mendi> @bzed without any software or gui how much memory does debian eat
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2575 [21:23:29] <th_> its now moved to mariadb-server, that installs mysqld
2576 [21:23:33] <mendi> I mean just the core
2577 [21:23:39] <Shadow_7_> depends on how muc debian is installed and active.
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2579 [21:24:05] <somiaj> th_: sure, but my understanding was mariadb and mysql are no longer the same, they are forks when oracle got ahold of mysql.
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2581 [21:24:20] <Shadow_7_> I'm often about 70MB - 140MB before I X and browser
2582 [21:24:44] <mendi> seriously??
2583 [21:24:54] <somiaj> mendi: the core is not really a good judge, because most likely it won't have the software you will be running, but the install guide lists the minimial requirements.
2584 [21:25:00] <Shadow_7_> And there's cassandra, drizzle, and other forks
2585 [21:25:09] <th_> im confused why the daemon is still named mysqld and not like mariadbd
2586 [21:25:37] <bzed> somiaj: ah sorry, it was removed, indeed
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2588 [21:26:06] <bzed> somiaj: mariadb is compatible to mysql
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2590 [21:26:29] <somiaj> th_: there might be compadability issues in which renaming everything would cause issues so it kept the same name in the code.
2591 [21:26:44] <th_> true
2592 [21:26:48] <Shadow_7_> I was watching youtube on my 512MB machine up till about two years ago. When ads started cresting 512MB
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2594 [21:27:49] <Shadow_7_> And old P4 laptop. 2.8GHz 32 bit single core for some things it's still beast relative to my other low specs hardware
2595 [21:27:56] <mendi> can I install a GUI and configure debian to run with no GUI by default?
2596 [21:28:26] <somiaj> mendi: just disable or don't install a display manager if you don't want the gui to load at boot. Then manually run it with startx.
2597 [21:28:56] <Shadow_7_> mendi: as long as the gui doesn't grab a display manager. Or you do the "false" thing in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
2598 [21:28:58] <mendi> oh nice thanks somiaj
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2600 [21:29:11] <Shadow_7_> dpkg nodm
2601 [21:29:11] <dpkg> Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (replaced-url
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2609 [21:33:12] <piratepete> I have a good install of Wordpress on my company server (debian) and a bad one, I'm trying to fix on another. Is replaced-url
2610 [21:34:15] <piratepete> I guess the question is: is replaced-url
2611 [21:34:38] <missmbob> piratepete: no. that'll break wordpress
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2613 [21:35:14] <piratepete> missmbob: start fresh??
2614 [21:35:18] <missmbob> yes
2615 [21:35:22] <unborn> piratepete: if you want to be able modify those files but still able to process by replaced-url
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2618 [21:36:13] <unborn> piratepete: but I do say the correct way would be su and change your user to replaced-url
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2622 [21:36:45] <unborn> but if wordpress is bad then dont waste your time, just replace with new one
2623 [21:36:50] <piratepete> unborn: the problem is ... everything is root:root
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2625 [21:36:57] <unborn> - unless you know what your are doing
2626 [21:37:04] <piratepete> unborn: I must have been in a hurry
2627 [21:37:11] <unborn> yes thats wrong piratepete
2628 [21:37:29] <unborn> give it back to replaced-url
2629 [21:37:33] <unborn> and see then
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2631 [21:37:57] <unborn> btw whats bad about that wordpress install piratepete
2632 [21:37:58] <unborn> ?
2633 [21:38:09] <piratepete> thanks folks. I'm off to fix this or destroy it :-)
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2636 [21:38:26] <missmbob> no it's not :P
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2638 [21:38:55] <Hestben> on the topic of wordpress installs, I would like to tip about the tool wpi-cli - Install and configure wordpress from the command line
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2640 [21:38:58] <unborn> root:root because you've been in hurry is poor excuse - I believe that you did not read whole docs out there.. anyway. good luck piratepete
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2642 [21:39:33] <piratepete> my root power is kind of like Trumps. I'm a Java professional with dangerous system admin knowledge
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2644 [21:40:05] <unborn> Hestben: sorry, I left my self to carry on without realising that this is debian support channel.. I just lost it.. so whats the issue?
2645 [21:40:30] <unborn> heh not politics and other crap..please
2646 [21:40:32] <piratepete> unborn: the wife says I need to read the instructions everytime
2647 [21:40:54] <unborn> sysops does say same piratepete
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2651 [21:42:12] <jhutchins> Well that's annoying. Installed the 64b kernel and now Nvidia won't complete.
2652 [21:42:35] <jhutchins> Actually, the problem was with dkms.
2653 [21:42:51] <jhutchins> I presume I need to install some 64b headers...
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2655 [21:44:58] <piratepete> unborn: awesome! chown -R replaced-url
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2670 [21:58:45] <missmbob> piratepete: i'm right on this
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2678 [22:04:49] <jhutchins> Well, getting NVIDIA working the first time was easy. I guess I've finally found a challenge. I'll work on finishing cross-grading to amd64 then return to NVIDIA
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2681 [22:05:26] <somiaj> jhutchins: this a 64 bit kernel in a 32bit userland?
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2938 [22:21:05] <decuser> I'm getting fond of zfs these days through using fbsd. Is zfs well supported on debian jessie? Can it be setup during install as root?
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2940 [22:21:57] <Klaus_Dieter> it works well onmy system as file store. not using it as rootfs though
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2949 [22:24:07] <decuser> Ok. Thx.
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3084 [23:10:41] <unborn> guys I am writing post install script for my personal debian install.. while testing iso with post-install script works awesome I have one issue, while user is on live iso it is still asking him for root password.. how to make it just click and work? does anyone know?
3085 [23:10:42] <artificial> Just installed debian, but its not detecting my wireless NIC. lspci detects it though.
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3087 [23:11:52] <unborn> artificial: free or non free?
3088 [23:12:12] <somiaj> unborn: the live iso's the default user has sudo privlages with no password, so just run the command with sudo.
3089 [23:12:14] <unborn> possibly free.. as non free would install drivers right a way
3090 [23:12:29] <x032cx> unborn:did you try admin
3091 [23:12:32] <artificial> unborn: what do you mean
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3095 [23:13:20] <unborn> somiaj: thank you. I know for the fact that user is presented and password as well.. - for live distro.. im just.. let me check if su will do it.. be with me
3096 [23:13:23] <dontknow> what packages should i install to make hexchat to highlight wrong letter. i mean typing correction
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3098 [23:13:53] <unborn> spellcheck dontknow
3099 [23:14:20] <unborn> or aspell
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3101 [23:14:58] <unborn> somiaj: rebooting.. sorry for time consuming.. I am testing this in vm..
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3103 [23:15:07] <dontknow> unborn, aspell is installed
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3105 [23:16:25] <unborn> dontknow: then go to hexchat, click on settings, preferences and there in input box check spell checking on
3106 [23:16:31] <unborn> you should be good to go
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3111 [23:17:11] <unborn> somiaj: I guess you can gram some cigarette as I will need at least 10 minutes to finish dummy install.
3112 [23:17:30] <unborn> re* grab
3113 [23:17:35] <dontknow> unborn, it is checked i set it "en_US"
3114 [23:17:50] <somiaj> unborn: I don't know what you mean by live distro, but if using a debian live images, sudo was as far as I knew enabled without requiring a password.
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3116 [23:18:15] <unborn> dontknow: then check if your aspell have that language installed
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3119 [23:19:23] <unborn> dontknow: coz on my end point it does works.. mine one is en_gb - language setup system wide... but for example in libre office I hate to use us checks otherwise it just did not worked.
3120 [23:21:13] <dontknow> unborn, it doesn2t work for me :/
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3123 [23:21:54] <linuxgoof> hey guys
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3125 [23:22:09] <linuxgoof> i'm on wheezy trying to update to jessie but i'm having an issue can someone help me out
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3127 [23:23:04] <unborn> somiaj: okay, iso is installed but when script started it is still asking me (the end user) for password.. means it does not work. what I am trying to achieve is debian install for 60+ of my family members to give them some settings and packages right once debian netinstall is done. I figured out how to do all things like bookmarks in nautilus with all passwords etc.. even vpn but still want to install gimp and other packages, but without asking for
3128 [23:23:04] <unborn> root password while they are in live dvd/cd.
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3130 [23:23:35] <x032cx> am still running potato maybe i should upgrade to wheezy
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3132 [23:23:48] <linuxgoof> lol
3133 [23:23:52] <bazhang> potato?
3134 [23:24:01] <unborn> somiaj: perhaps it involve more deeper knowledge or something? - it would be just easier to give them install.sh script isn't it?
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3136 [23:24:45] <unborn> dontknow: what version of debian you are running?
3137 [23:24:50] <linuxgoof> i'm getting a dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17+deb8u6_powerpc.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
3138 [23:25:04] <linuxgoof> don't know why or how to fix
3139 [23:25:23] <linuxgoof> results in a Errors were encountered while processing:
3140 [23:25:23] <linuxgoof> /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17+deb8u6_powerpc.deb
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3142 [23:25:36] <dontknow> unborn, jessie. i installed "enchant" package. i think it should work now. maybe i need to restart hexchat
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3147 [23:26:19] <towo`> linuxgoof, have you tryed apt-get -f install?
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3154 [23:27:04] <dontknow> yeah it works now
3155 [23:27:10] <unborn> dontknow: perhaps.. I use only free version.. heck Ive seen non free version but nothing like enchant package.. oh you mean hexchat? - well I only use standard packages from debian repos.. they always work man :)
3156 [23:27:13] <dontknow> unborn, it works now
3157 [23:27:38] <unborn> dontknow: after restart? so - aspell was correct one
3158 [23:27:48] <unborn> ...restart of hexchat
3159 [23:28:02] <dontknow> unborn, i installed "enchant" package and restarted hexchat
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3161 [23:28:32] <linuxgoof> oh wait do i have to reboot with the new kernel before updating the distro
3162 [23:28:33] <somiaj> unborn: what live cd/dvd are you talking about?
3163 [23:28:40] <unborn> dontknow: yes I did get it in end of my slow understanding process.. sorry for that. well - enjoy ;)
3164 [23:28:45] <unborn> somiaj: jessie
3165 [23:29:13] <somiaj> the live cd should give the main user sudo privlages without a password, at least that was the way it worked last time I checked.
3166 [23:29:14] <towo`> linuxgoof, it's a bad idea to reboot in the middle of a unfinished update
3167 [23:29:22] <unborn> somiaj: I am creating live dvd for my mom and father and brother....
3168 [23:29:25] <somiaj> but if you are running a script inside the chroot, this is different.
3169 [23:29:51] <bazhang> !potato to wheezy
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3171 [23:30:07] <unborn> somiaj: yes that is what I said, however I would like to have them to install some stuff after they log into the system after fresh install
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3174 [23:30:25] <somiaj> bazhang: it is release1->release2 and you can't skip releases in the upgrade, so you'll have to go through every release between potato and wheezy
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3178 [23:30:57] <somiaj> unborn: in that case they will have to run the script as root, you could just set up sudo privagles with no password if you wanted.
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3180 [23:31:06] <bazhang> somiaj, right, someone just claimed to be running potato here
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3183 [23:31:34] <somiaj> unborn: and in this case the fact you installed off a live cd is of no relivance. You are not running inside a live cd so no need to keep mentioning it as it confuses the issue.
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3185 [23:31:48] <unborn> somiaj: aha! heh I just had that moment of aha.. its working correctly! I just forgot that after install... it all works, script is launched and of course it have to ask for root password, its not a live dvd any more.. meh
3186 [23:32:00] * unborn hides in shame in corner
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3188 [23:32:53] <unborn> somiaj: I just realised that.. perhaps I was working too much today.. sorry. you was right from right of the start of our convo.
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3190 [23:34:36] <unborn> oh man I love debian :)
3191 [23:34:43] <x032cx> bazhang:what is wrong with bring an old debian sys to life
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3197 [23:37:27] <unborn> somiaj: thank you very much for helping me to realise my mistake!
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3208 [23:43:34] <unborn> bazhang: ..why are you trolling? there is no need for it.
3209 [23:44:02] <bazhang> unborn, someone else asked about it, scroll up
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3212 [23:44:58] <unborn> bazhang: plonk
3213 [23:45:28] <unborn> scroll your self out there.. please dont spam
3214 [23:45:48] <bazhang> unborn, let's leave it be
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3232 [23:53:47] <artificial> I changed my sources to stretch, but after running update and upgrade. Nothing changed. 0 packets were upgraded.
3233 [23:54:14] <towo`> because you need dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
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3235 [23:54:22] <artificial> I did that
3236 [23:54:29] <unborn> piratepete: glat to helped you and as you said wife or not always read the mans ;) enjoy your wordpress
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3239 [23:54:52] <unborn> jhutchins: are you on i3 or 6?
3240 [23:55:14] <unborn> i mean i386 or 64 ? I had issues on i386
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3243 [23:56:56] <unborn> when on 64bit I was able to make my quadro grfs working but it was not good for me.. vlc was freezing and all other sort of issues.. so I did changed my laptop for more friendly hardware but perhaps your gfcs is fully supported
3244 [23:57:16] <towo`> artificial, you did what?
3245 [23:57:22] <unborn> artificial: you did what?
3246 [23:57:51] <unborn> artificial: if you installed as towo` said, you would not need to touch sources.. what are you saying?
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3248 [23:58:40] <artificial> towo`: unborn I changed sources.list from jessie to stretch. Ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Yet no packages were upgraded.
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3250 [23:58:45] <unborn> I mean if you installed from netinstall.. if you done just update to your respos list, you need dist-upgrade
3251 [23:59:12] <unborn> artificial: did you run dist-upgrade before those other commands?
3252 [23:59:30] <towo`> artificial, provide the output of apt-cache policy on a pastebin
3253 [23:59:49] <unborn> artificial: ^^^
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