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0 [00:00:19] <rhizome_> for some reason i have i386 arch, too. i'll have to rdepends that later
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3 [00:01:43] <tomcres> Google Chrome for i386 is discontinued anyway. Your best bet is probably to uninstall it, then download and install the 64-bit deb from replaced-url
4 [00:02:02] <rhizome_> yep, apt update is complaining about the arch, that's how i realized :)
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7 [00:02:30] <rhizome_> chrome is the easy part now, backing out of i386 is going to be annoying
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11 [00:03:04] <rhizome_> probably left over from attempting to use sketchup
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18 [00:04:31] <rhizome_> funny, just as github is adding visual contrast to their pages, SO is removing it
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94 [00:43:56] <n-iCe> hi
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179 [01:33:04] <nguyenphi> Is there anyway to turn off warning message lvmetad failed to connect....everytime i boot the os up?
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182 [01:33:53] <Arrowmaster> so all my extensions are gone from chromium and it wont let me reinstall them, is this from an update?
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187 [01:35:38] <aerth> why not apt-get upgrade to keepass 2.0.3?
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189 [01:35:57] <aerth> do i have to keep building it from source? it has been years it feels like
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194 [01:37:48] <aerth> xscreensaver too
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197 [01:40:06] <missmbob> ,v keepass2
198 [01:40:07] <judd> Package: keepass2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.19+dfsg-2; jessie: 2.28+dfsg-1; sid: 2.35+dfsg-1; stretch: 2.35+dfsg-1
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201 [01:41:25] <aerth> ah
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206 [01:44:14] <n-iCe> hi
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264 [02:15:41] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
265 [02:16:06] <NapoleonWils0n> im running kodi on debian with i3-wm window manager
266 [02:16:30] <NapoleonWils0n> but kodi crashes with this error in the log: failed to find matching visual
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268 [02:17:01] <NapoleonWils0n> i think its hardware accelaration for the video thats missing
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273 [02:17:41] <NapoleonWils0n> when i run glxinfo i get: couldnt find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
274 [02:17:42] <fraxca> btw, how to hide/disable menu icon in start menu list?
275 [02:17:53] <fraxca> i just know with edit .desktop file
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279 [02:18:22] <NapoleonWils0n> i have an intel graphics card anyone know which package for glx hardware accelaaration
280 [02:18:31] <fraxca> i mean app icon, so d start menu just show the name of app without icon
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284 [02:20:11] <NapoleonWils0n> weird thing is if i install gnome-core and boot into i3-wm kodi works
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287 [02:20:50] <NapoleonWils0n> so there must be something gnome-core installs that fixes the issue, but i cant work out what it is
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377 [03:21:03] <sdasda> help me somebodz with kali ?
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379 [03:21:10] <missmbob> no
380 [03:21:12] <missmbob> !kali
381 [03:21:12] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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383 [03:21:37] <sdasda> !kali
384 [03:21:37] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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386 [03:21:57] <sdasda> smart boy, ok ... somebody other ?
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388 [03:22:20] <bazhang> sdasda, other what?
389 [03:22:27] <somiaj> sdasda: we don't support kali here as per the bot's factoid, you should use Kali's support, which is listed for you from the bot
390 [03:22:55] <bazhang> #kali-linux sdasda
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394 [03:24:05] <sdasda> and reason ?
395 [03:24:20] <bazhang> sdasda, it's NOT supported here
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397 [03:24:26] <OerHeks> kali has its own support and issues.
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401 [03:24:47] <bazhang> sdasda, so go to the channel I Just told you
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404 [03:25:04] <somiaj> sdasda: a combination of technical, we do not know what changes kali has made, and social, part of what you get with a distro is the support system and comunity.
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407 [03:27:08] <sdasda> the channel is death ... and i dont understand if u know how solution this, why dont tell me ...
408 [03:27:22] <bazhang> then wait sdasda
409 [03:27:37] <bazhang> and please stop asking here for support sdasda
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411 [03:28:17] <sdasda> u please stop write me onlz bullshit, ty
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414 [03:28:56] <bazhang> sdasda, many people have asked you to stop here
415 [03:30:13] <sdasda> funny boy .. :d
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418 [03:31:54] <somiaj> sdasda: You have been nicely told we choose to not support kali here. Please take your support to the kali chanel or the forums.
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423 [03:36:08] <Bird|otherbox> so, I'm using Logrotate 3.11.0 from Debian testing to try to rotate a rather annoying log file that the creating app (NWN's Linux client) brain-damagedly truncates on startup. It used to seem to work OK, but now whenever I try to run NWN twice in the same day, I get a "destination already exists, skipping rotation" error. I'm invoking logrotate as '/usr/sbin/logrotate -f ./nwn_logrotate.ini -s ./nwn_logrotate.status' to invoke it, and
424 [03:36:08] <Bird|otherbox> nwn_logrotate.ini looks like replaced-url
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430 [03:40:19] <somiaj> Bird|otherbox: do you have previous logs that have been rotated such as log.1 log.2.gz etc?
431 [03:40:57] <Bird|otherbox> somiaj, I have previous logs but they're all in the dateext name format
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433 [03:41:58] <somiaj> logrotate will fail if a log exists in the place it wants to put it. I have had issues where this buged out, but not positive on the details so you can just run logrotate when you need to
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440 [03:45:24] <somiaj> Bird|otherbox: replaced-url
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445 [03:49:18] <Hello71> (I thought this was ##imagemagick)
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448 [03:50:30] <Bird|otherbox> somiaj, that's the thing -- I have to run logrotate before I start the app I'm rotating for ,every single time. blame braindamaged coders who truncate log files on startup.
449 [03:51:18] <Hello71> just use mv then?
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451 [03:52:22] <somiaj> Bird|otherbox: yea move the file it wants to rotate too out of place first
452 [03:52:42] <Bird|otherbox> Hello71, if there was a way to have logrotate pass the destination filename to a prerotate script, I'd use that + replaced-url
453 [03:52:50] <somiaj> Bird|otherbox: or jsut disable dateext
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456 [03:53:38] <Bird|otherbox> somiaj, can I have like an arbitrarily long set of backlogs with dateext disabled?
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458 [03:53:50] <qmr> Feb 15 18:37:40 nms systemd[1]: Stopping A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server...
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460 [03:53:59] <qmr> what the fuck is that? why does it not just say 'nginx' ?
461 [03:54:07] <qmr> who am I angry at, debian or systemd ?
462 [03:54:07] <phi_> any suggest for root partition size?
463 [03:54:13] <somiaj> Bird|otherbox: it should keep incrimiting the number at the end, maybe as long as you don't run out of the size of the int it uses to do that.
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465 [03:54:33] <qmr> phi_: use LVM so you can resize whenever you want
466 [03:54:44] <qmr> 20GB should be plenty
467 [03:54:50] <somiaj> qmr: Might be the unit file, so it could be ngix
468 [03:55:34] <phi_> qmr: without lvm I still can resize it, right?
469 [03:55:40] <somiaj> depending on what you do, I use closer to 30, but I tend to not clean up my /var/cache/apt/archive that often and only using about 18G on my desktop
470 [03:55:47] <somiaj> phi_: it is just harder without lvm.
471 [03:55:55] <somiaj> lvm has tools to make the proces more automated.
472 [03:56:11] <qmr> phi_: ... just listen to the grownups and use LVM
473 [03:56:26] <phi_> somiaj: I think the advantage of lvm is you can resize it directly on your os
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475 [03:56:45] <qmr> You get a ton of other useful features, like snapshots
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477 [03:57:01] <somiaj> phi_: you might not be able to for / though, I woudln't want to resize a file system I'm running on.
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479 [03:57:08] <somiaj> but I don't use lvm
480 [03:57:21] <phi_> qmr: I'm using lvm now and got this message everybooting Failed to connect lvmetad ....
481 [03:57:56] <phi_> Dont know how to get rid of it
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489 [04:06:57] <sdasda> guys ... ubntu/fedora/mint .. which for start is the best ? :]
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491 [04:07:36] <somiaj> sdasda: ##linux is a chanel for general linux support.
492 [04:08:13] <sdasda> this is not forum this is chat .... OMG ..
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494 [04:08:29] <somiaj> sdasda: we would suggest you use Debian here.
495 [04:08:44] <phi_> for me now, debian is the best
496 [04:08:55] <phi_> stable and fully customize just like arch
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499 [04:10:38] <qmr> replaced-url
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502 [04:13:02] <jgriffiths> I'm here because I'm losing my mind. I install Jesse (minimal) on a host through a USB device and I can never mount it again from Jesse. I see it with lsusb but not lsblk or fdisk. When it's removed, it shows that it is removed. This has happened on two servers now.
503 [04:13:15] <jgriffiths> Can never mount the USB device that is
504 [04:13:53] <qmr> jgriffiths: what is the message when you try to?
505 [04:13:58] <rhizome_> jgriffiths: nothing in dmesg or /var/log/messages?
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507 [04:14:16] <jgriffiths> Only thing in dmesg is the fact that it's cvonnected
508 [04:14:28] <rhizome_> so it does register when you plug and unplug it?
509 [04:14:36] <rhizome_> i guess if you can lsusb it
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513 [04:15:03] <jgriffiths> It registers on boot. I can't plug/unplug it because it's a Smartjands request and it costs a couple hundred dollars each time I do it
514 [04:15:35] <jgriffiths> Booting the system again. Thanks everybody for chiming in
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518 [04:16:30] <somiaj> jgriffiths: I think it might have somethign to do with the hybrid nature of the image.
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522 [04:17:49] <somiaj> nevermind, I'm able to mount the partitions here just fine.
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525 [04:18:27] <jgriffiths> I build the image on a Wheezy system with dd if=iso and of=/dev/sdc
526 [04:18:37] <jgriffiths> I can rad it on Wheezy.
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532 [04:19:38] <somiaj> yea it is the partition table that can't messed with on my test here, I'm unsure why you aren't able to read it
533 [04:19:57] <rhizome_> does it get a /dev/ node?
534 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.506280] usb 1-1.5: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=5530
535 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.506285] usb 1-1.5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
536 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.506288] usb 1-1.5: Product: Cruzer
537 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.506290] usb 1-1.5: Manufacturer: SanDisk
538 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.506294] usb 1-1.5: SerialNumber: 4C530001321026112185
539 [04:20:01] <jgriffiths> [ 3.508657] usb-storage 1-1.5:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
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541 [04:20:10] <rhizome_> badabing
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545 [04:20:31] <jgriffiths> Ooops
546 [04:20:34] <jgriffiths> Sorry
547 [04:20:36] <jgriffiths> replaced-url
548 [04:20:37] <rhizome_> it happens
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550 [04:21:11] <rhizome_> what about tail -50 /var/log/messages
551 [04:22:02] <jgriffiths> replaced-url
552 [04:23:10] <jgriffiths> Am I missing some sort of scsi driver?
553 [04:23:16] <somiaj> yea not sure why the kernel isn't giving it a drive node.
554 [04:23:38] <somiaj> should just need the usb_storage module, 'lsmod | grep usb'
555 [04:23:54] <jgriffiths> That is there for sure.
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557 [04:24:06] <jgriffiths> That's kinda how I unplugged abnd plugged it back in virtually.
558 [04:24:28] <somiaj> yea unsure why it isn't registering the partitions as a file system.
559 [04:24:32] <jgriffiths> Not on this server though. I had it on another server earlier
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563 [04:25:16] <jgriffiths> It does do this: [ 4.510933] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
564 [04:25:38] <somiaj> what are the lines right under that?
565 [04:25:50] <jgriffiths> Oh
566 [04:26:39] <somiaj> actually the lines right above that, that is the last line I get when I plug my device in.
567 [04:26:39] <rhizome_> thumbdrive isn't going to be sd i don't think
568 [04:26:49] <somiaj> rhizome_: it is
569 [04:26:57] <rhizome_> huh wild
570 [04:26:59] <somiaj> well usually it is
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572 [04:27:23] <somiaj> my usb thumbdrives have always registered as sd?
573 [04:27:33] <rhizome_> i was wrestling with something like this mine earlier today and it was /dev/mm0somethingsomething
574 [04:27:39] <jgriffiths> replaced-url
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577 [04:28:01] <rhizome_> that was an sd *card* though, so nevermind.
578 [04:28:16] <rhizome_> i could pull that out but it's not worth it
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580 [04:29:05] <somiaj> jgriffiths: well between lines 11 and 12 is where on my system it registers the dvice and assigns it a device node.
581 [04:29:23] <rhizome_> i smell udev rules approaching
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583 [04:30:02] <somiaj> wonder if there is just something wrong with the thumbdrive, though I don't have experience with server hardware, this is just strange and seems like hardware.
584 [04:30:20] <jgriffiths> I used it to install the Jesse OS on that server
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586 [04:30:43] <kakadu42> koukou
587 [04:30:43] <jgriffiths> Like an hour ago
588 [04:30:50] <somiaj> jgriffiths: doesn't have to be totally broken to have slight errors. It was the same thumb drive that did this on both servers?
589 [04:30:51] <rhizome_> if you can get on the machine anyway you might as well just proceed without it. mail hosting another one and test later
590 [04:30:56] <somiaj> jgriffiths: did you reimage it after the first time?
591 [04:30:59] <jgriffiths> Yes.
592 [04:31:05] <jgriffiths> Yes
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594 [04:31:48] <somiaj> jgriffiths: I don't know of any ways to try to force it to see the partition table/file system ont he device, and unsure why the installer can see it but not the os afterwards. I would try a different thumbdrive, though again I don't have to pay someone at a datacenter.
595 [04:31:49] <rhizome_> jgriffiths: check dis out replaced-url
596 [04:31:50] <judd> Bug replaced-url
597 [04:32:23] <jgriffiths> I was looking through bug reports too.
598 [04:32:32] <jgriffiths> That is an old bug though
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600 [04:32:47] <rhizome_> it seems like a good match based on what you've described
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602 [04:33:00] <jgriffiths> Oh. Yeah. It looks like a great match
603 [04:33:01] <rhizome_> and i find fixes pre-2010 all the time
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606 [04:33:20] <jgriffiths> OMG. I'm excited
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608 [04:33:47] <somiaj> that bug report is vague, and it could be that the user just didn't mount the file system, not that the kernel was not detecting it.
609 [04:34:03] <rhizome_> the crux is the apt sources.list
610 [04:34:38] <jgriffiths> Yeah. That is actually commenting out the CD to download from the internet.
611 [04:34:56] <jgriffiths> That was already commented out on my system and I already to and update/upgrade
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613 [04:35:09] <somiaj> rhizome_: the error there is different, the error is the drive is not being mounted automatically like a cdrom would at /dev/cdrom makgin apt-get fail. One can manually mount the usb drive there, so we don't know if it is just the user didn't know how to manually mount the usb drive or if the kernel is failing to asign it a device node.
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616 [04:35:32] <rhizome_> such is troubleshooting
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618 [04:36:18] <somiaj> jgriffiths: anwyays it could be some bug in the kernel, do you have access to the internet? Maybe install a backports kernel and see if it just works?
619 [04:36:46] <somiaj> jgriffiths: I still thikn some strange issue with that paticular thumbdrive hardware. Also any reason you need to mount the usb drive?
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623 [04:38:13] <jgriffiths> This is the best part. The customer removed our iDrac access, pulled their servers off any internal subnet we could run PXE or MAAS on, installed KVM's without local disk mapping, then asked up to re-image their servers
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625 [04:38:41] <n-iCe> hi
626 [04:38:54] <jgriffiths> I asked around and found out that somebody left a USB drive sitting on some rack in the data center
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628 [04:39:13] <jgriffiths> I installed Jesse and then they said they wanted Wheezy again.
629 [04:39:21] <rhizome_> good times
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633 [04:40:42] <jgriffiths> I have one USB drive. The last time I tried to ship one there it got returned by customs.
634 [04:41:09] <somiaj> jgriffiths: ls /dev/sdc (do you see a device node?)
635 [04:41:15] <jgriffiths> Yes
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637 [04:41:27] <somiaj> seems just the partition table is not being read, what do you need to get off that cd?
638 [04:41:29] <jgriffiths> It says no medium found if I try to connect to it though
639 [04:41:30] <somiaj> I mean usb
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641 [04:41:47] <somiaj> well I think for some reason it is not reading the partition table, hence you see a device but no parititons
642 [04:41:50] <jgriffiths> I just need to write a new iso to it
643 [04:42:03] <somiaj> have you tried, just write it to /dev/sdc
644 [04:42:11] <somiaj> note data will be destroyed
645 [04:42:34] <rhizome_> jgriffiths: does it have a uuid?
646 [04:42:42] <jgriffiths> No.
647 [04:42:47] <jgriffiths> Just a id
648 [04:42:48] <somiaj> rhizome_: it isn't seeing a partition table, it won't see the filesystems as a result.
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652 [04:42:59] <somiaj> but it seems to be seeing the device.
653 [04:43:05] <rhizome_> that's after the dev node tho
654 [04:43:10] <rhizome_> which it doesn't have
655 [04:43:24] <jgriffiths> Trying to find the wheezy minial iso
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658 [04:43:47] <somiaj> go with netinstall not minimial.
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660 [04:44:43] <jgriffiths> Darn. The DC guys just pulled the USB out
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663 [04:45:20] <jgriffiths> New question then. What is the newest Wheezy version and where can I get it?
664 [04:45:35] <somiaj> should still be on the mirrors
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666 [04:45:45] <somiaj> note you only get lts support, but I'm sure you are fine with that
667 [04:45:54] <rhizome_> replaced-url
668 [04:46:01] <jgriffiths> Thanks!
669 [04:46:12] <st3fann> Hey there I wanted to know why my bash script is not working.. it is supposed to go through an interactive program and supply inputs, but it doesn't supply any after the first input..
670 [04:46:40] <st3fann> replaced-url
671 [04:46:42] <rhizome_> better: replaced-url
672 [04:47:18] <jgriffiths> Thanks!
673 [04:47:52] <somiaj> st3fann: the inputs should be seperated by spaces not new lines, also #bash might be a good place to ask about bash
674 [04:48:14] <rhizome_> st3fann: for a login? look into expect
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678 [04:49:19] <st3fann> somiaj: thanks, with spaces even though it's different lines of input? And should I do it with echo?
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680 [04:49:26] <st3fann> I'll check out #bash now
681 [04:51:08] <somiaj> st3fann: script foo1 foo2 foo3 foo4, $0 = script, $1 = foo1, $2 = foo2, etc
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722 [05:09:01] <jgriffiths> For the record, I just moved that USB drive to a Xenial machine and it showed up right away. Is Xenial a bad word here?
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724 [05:09:49] <rhizome> never heard of it
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726 [05:10:57] <jgriffiths> rhizome, not sure if you're serious or not. Could be either.
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728 [05:11:15] <jgriffiths> Ubuntu
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736 [05:18:34] <awal1> "Insecure connection " "your connection is not secure advices firefox visiting replaced-url
737 [05:18:48] <awal1> anyone get same advice?
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741 [05:21:16] <smithscott> I received a similar page using chromium
742 [05:21:53] <awal1> hm
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777 [05:47:57] <CrazyTux> is jscoder online here?
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804 [06:00:54] <qwertypoiu> If someone were to want to modify a Debian .iso to do some malicious things during install (without preseed stuff), what file would they need to modify on the install image filesystem?
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836 [06:15:15] <redrabbit> qwertypoiu: are you trying to do evil stuff ?
837 [06:15:24] <redrabbit> its bad mkay
838 [06:18:03] <awal1> maybe he is paranoid
839 [06:18:10] <awal1> :P
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844 [06:20:19] <qwertypoiu> It's for academic purposes of course.
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928 [07:41:01] <locrian9> I found this bash script replaced-url
929 [07:42:06] <missmbob> locrian9: #netfilter is their home
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987 [08:12:11] <guest4532> I have a Qnap TS-231 and looking to put debian on it, only been able to find a post back in 2015 saying it wasn't possible at that time. Does anyone know if it's possible yet?
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1141 [09:38:36] <willemb> I have some service blacklisted in needrestart on servers, because I do not want them to restart unexpectedly. What is the best way to let me know that a server is in a state where it SHOULD have something restarted?
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1161 [09:53:07] <AN0NYM> if you want that a service don't start at startup (on debian 8 jessie), do a "sudo systemctl disable <servicename>" - if you want that the service can not even be started manually, do a "sudo systemctl mask <servicename>"
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1166 [09:58:01] <acagastya> Hello, can anyone help me?
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1216 [10:34:18] <Ast001> Hi when I have 4 windowes open (terminal,geany,firefox) and press super key Debian shows me all 4 windows. Is there a way to focus on one and write in it without full screen while all 4 are still visible ?
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1228 [10:40:11] * i-pimp-hookers pimps hookers
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1230 [10:42:10] <i-pimp-hookers> H0Okers
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1232 [10:42:16] <i-pimp-hookers> i P1MP THEM
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1236 [10:43:29] <bazhang> !ops | i-pimp-hookers
1237 [10:43:29] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | i-pimp-hookers
1238 [10:43:43] <i-pimp-hookers> !ops | i pimp jews
1239 [10:43:43] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: i-pimp-hookers complains about: | i pimp jews
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1242 [10:43:59] *** i-pimp-hookers was kicked by babilen (you should know better)
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1244 [10:44:05] <bazhang> thanks
1245 [10:45:00] <babilen> likewise :)
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1248 [10:46:05] <CutMeOwnThroat> very cooperative of him to call ops himself, I thought at first ^ ^
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1251 [10:47:27] <CutMeOwnThroat> Ast001, that's a property/behavior of your desktop environment, not of debian
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1263 [10:52:37] <Ast001> ok I am going to ask that on gnome then.
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1278 [11:00:45] <_Nox> good morning all
1279 [11:00:51] <bazhang> hi
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1281 [11:01:28] <_Nox> ;-)
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1290 [11:06:52] <koma> Hello, I'm looking forward to make a Debian archive Mirror, as stated here we are roughly at 2TB of space required: replaced-url
1291 [11:07:22] <n3wborn> is there a way to find which process is zombie using ps or top (or else) ?
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1297 [11:10:16] <n4dir> assuming i understand the manpage : ps ax | grep Z
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1299 [11:10:52] <n3wborn> Sorry, I missed this n4dir. thanks
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1308 [11:13:33] <n4dir> n3wborn: i guess it would be more precise to use awk ( if the 3 field is Z, then print the whole linke, Z doesn't sound like a good regex for a whole line)
1309 [11:13:41] <n4dir> but i don't know how ... :-(
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1312 [11:14:59] <n3wborn> no problem, you helped n4dir, and it may work using grep -w Z
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1315 [11:15:36] <n3wborn> don't unerstan, my zombie process disappeared
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1317 [11:15:44] <n3wborn> understand*
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1321 [11:19:40] <n4dir> ok, for a quick solution i would probably use just grep Z.
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1330 [11:25:56] <pawiecki> Hi! How can i view full channel description? My IRC app blocks some of it
1331 [11:26:12] <tx> /topic
1332 [11:26:14] <tx> :)
1333 [11:26:19] <bazhang> pawiecki, use alis
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1336 [11:26:42] <pawiecki> tx: thanks :)
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1338 [11:27:21] <pawiecki> bazhang: what's alis?
1339 [11:27:41] <bazhang> /msg alis list searchterm
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1341 [11:27:59] <bazhang> searchterm being what you want to find, with descriptions
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1360 [11:38:57] <jonathan_x> back in the day (not along ago) I had an issue with an LXC container of which the ssh sessions would often start halting, freezing the output, almost, being very slow at times. I thought it was the container but the host itself also has it... :(.
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1363 [11:39:35] <centrx> Could be the electrical supply
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1365 [11:39:53] <jonathan_x> now I don't even know if it is because of the container, the firewall, or any thing else.
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1372 [11:40:54] <jonathan_x> I can be working on the host for a while and then when there's lots of output (in text) it freezes...
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1375 [11:41:14] <pawiecki> I need some (or maybe a bit more than just some) help with configuring debian. I've installed latest version, on my old Lenovo ThinkCentre box that I use for experiments. I need to set it up, as a DHCP server, with VLAN, and be able to connect it to my existing LAN network, so (local) DHCP client would reach internet, via my LAN. I think I'll be able to do it by myself, but I'm just not sure how to start. Any help much appreciated :)
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1377 [11:41:29] <jonathan_x> whereas new sessions often don't have it, so I don't know what's the case here...
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1381 [11:42:22] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: dnsmasq is great to use as a dhcp server
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1384 [11:42:53] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: you can let the dhcp server be the router or you can direct it to another router you have
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1388 [11:43:42] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: so you then have the dhcp server also the router, or two different machines, but that adds complexity to your setup
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1392 [11:46:25] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: you can add local DHCP client names (computer names) to the dnsmasq client list for dns, so all computers are automatically reachable over local dns if they use dhcp.
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1397 [11:48:23] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: so any computer name like "nas" or "desktop" will automatically resolve as a hostname e.g. when you type "ping nas" it will resolve.
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1400 [11:49:50] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: the debian host itself can then also use dnsmasq whereas dnsmasq itself might forward client requests to some upstream dns server.
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1402 [11:51:52] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: you can even augment the DNS list for clients that e.g. connect over VPN, in case it is also a VPN server, but that is a bit beyond what I can say here.
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1420 [11:58:48] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: It appears you also want it to be a router. That's typically done with a few iptables forwarding and masquerading rules. I do not know about vlan. The routing part is very easy to get running. Linux almost comes as a router "in a box" by default.
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1426 [12:01:48] <pawiecki> jonathan_x: thanks, looking it up right now.
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1437 [12:07:11] <gry> installed android-sdk, where do i find avd command now? how do i get started?
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1446 [12:09:56] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: here is an example dnsmasq.conf if you care: replaced-url
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1448 [12:10:16] <jonathan_x> pawiecki: there is a static route example in there, a static host configuration example.
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1458 [12:14:44] <CutMeOwnThroat> jonathan_x, anything in the logs for that time? does the load go up when it happens? Any NFS shares?
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1465 [12:16:33] <jonathan_x> CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know yet but it happens regularly for a long time now... I honestly don't know yet if other services are affected. There are nfs shares, both mounted and shared, but I think it happens if they are not there.
1466 [12:16:53] <jonathan_x> CutMeOwnThroat: Actually I think NFS never has an issue.
1467 [12:17:08] <jonathan_x> CutMeOwnThroat: It's probably the firewall setup but I don't know yet.
1468 [12:17:26] <Neobenedict> replaced-url
1469 [12:17:26] <Neobenedict> help
1470 [12:17:36] <Neobenedict> trying to install flash (yes, i know)
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1473 [12:21:12] <fishbulb> where do I find what's in the repositories
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1477 [12:26:09] <jonathan_x> CutMeOwnThroat: nothing in the logs as far as I can find (syslog and dmesg).
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1483 [12:30:59] <TomTomTosch> fishbulb: which repository?
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1485 [12:31:27] <fishbulb> all of them
1486 [12:31:56] <fishbulb> all the things that are installable and likely to work
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1488 [12:33:07] <TomTomTosch> apt-cache dump | grep ^Package
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1490 [12:34:32] <fishbulb> I mean from a browser
1491 [12:34:36] <fishbulb> before I install debian
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1493 [12:34:52] <fishbulb> another install I have is fragged and I'm thinking of trying debian, I want to know what's in the repos
1494 [12:35:41] <TomTomTosch> no idea. but you can use packages.debian.org to search for specific packages you are interested in.
1495 [12:36:24] <jelly> that web site also has complete lists, two clicks away
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1497 [12:37:23] <jelly> View the packages in the stable distribution -> scroll down -> All packages
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1499 [12:38:18] <fishbulb> yeah I'm finding some of the packages I'm interested in
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1501 [12:38:42] <fishbulb> which version of gnome comes with debian?
1502 [12:38:56] <fishbulb> what does stable really mean
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1504 [12:39:54] <babilen> dpkg: stable
1505 [12:39:55] <dpkg> [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Jessie (8.7); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). replaced-url
1506 [12:40:11] <babilen> So basically "not changing"
1507 [12:40:23] <fishbulb> what about new fewatures
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1510 [12:41:03] <babilen> Once a release has been made it doesn't really change (apart from the changes outlined above). New features would become available in the next stable release.
1511 [12:41:19] <fishbulb> I mean in the software
1512 [12:41:37] <babilen> As the software doesn't change the features of the software won't change either
1513 [12:41:56] <fishbulb> how old can I expect the software to be then
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1515 [12:42:10] <babilen> There are some exceptions (e.g. browsers) and you can install "backported" packages (i.e. newer packages from the next stable release compiled for the current)
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1517 [12:42:47] <fishbulb> things like cad software
1518 [12:42:58] <babilen> Anything in particular?
1519 [12:43:28] <fishbulb> freecad is currently still technically in alpha
1520 [12:43:34] <fishbulb> I think?
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1522 [12:44:04] <aerth> im on jessie and i see it Version: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3
1523 [12:44:27] <fishbulb> as far as I know that is it
1524 [12:44:47] <TomTomTosch> ,v freecad
1525 [12:44:49] <judd> Package: freecad on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3; jessie-backports: 0.16+dfsg2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.16+dfsg2-3; sid: 0.16+dfsg2-3
1526 [12:45:20] <aerth> ,v xscreensaver
1527 [12:45:22] <judd> Package: xscreensaver on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 5.15-3+deb7u1; wheezy: 5.15-3+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.30-1+deb8u1; jessie-updates: 5.30-1+deb8u2; jessie: 5.30-1+deb8u2; sid: 5.36-1; stretch: 5.36-1
1528 [12:45:22] <fishbulb> I dont' know what the suffix means
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1530 [12:45:43] <fishbulb> deb8u1 for example
1531 [12:45:46] <fishbulb> debian 8 ?
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1534 [12:45:51] <TomTomTosch> 0.16 is the current stable freecad release, i believe. it's available through jessie-backports.
1535 [12:46:02] <aerth> ,v keepassx
1536 [12:46:03] <judd> Package: keepassx on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2.0.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0.3-1; sid: 2.0.3-1
1537 [12:46:18] <TomTomTosch> aerth: /msg judd v <pkg>
1538 [12:46:25] <aerth> thanks i was curious about that
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1540 [12:46:37] <aerth> whens the next stable coming out? i hear theres some sort of freeze
1541 [12:46:37] <doubledutch> Thanks TomTomTosch
1542 [12:46:47] <fishbulb> what's wheezy jessie stretch
1543 [12:46:52] <fishbulb> which is newest and oldest
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1545 [12:47:07] <doubledutch> Stretch Jessie Wheezie
1546 [12:47:37] <aerth> what kernel will new debian ship with i wonder
1547 [12:47:45] <aerth> 4x?
1548 [12:47:55] <TomTomTosch> 4.9 methinks
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1550 [12:48:02] <aerth> stoked
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1552 [12:48:47] <fishbulb> when is the new debian?
1553 [12:48:54] <fishbulb> and do you have to reinstall everything?
1554 [12:49:23] <TomTomTosch> when it's ready. upgrading to new releases is possible.
1555 [12:49:29] <fishbulb> is there some kind of upgrade option or do you do a fresh install
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1559 [12:50:29] <TomTomTosch> release will be in a few months. no exact date.
1560 [12:50:43] <n4dir> the upgrade option is the sources.list file
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1562 [12:50:49] <fishbulb> can I keep the /home of some other distro
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1565 [12:51:32] <aerth> most likely
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1570 [12:52:30] <fishbulb> I'm "using" arch and it's mostly not worth whatever supposed benefits there are for me. in my opinion. which is a linux user of only a few years
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1572 [12:53:29] <fishbulb> where do I find the newest gnome distro? can I use numix icons? and gdm for logging in
1573 [12:53:58] <Brigo> fishbulb, the best way of installing a new distro is formating the disk and startting from scrach. Do you have /home in a separate partition?
1574 [12:54:09] <fishbulb> no I don't
1575 [12:54:14] <fishbulb> I have to at least dualboot
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1577 [12:55:11] <fishbulb> windows is on every computer I use
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1579 [12:55:29] <aerth> one day...
1580 [12:55:45] <fishbulb> in fact I just booted it because the other installs were so munted
1581 [12:56:00] <fishbulb> it's been over a year
1582 [12:56:14] <aerth> do you have a spare USB thumb drive you can convert to a live OS?
1583 [12:56:22] <fishbulb> of course
1584 [12:56:34] <fishbulb> 8gb enough?
1585 [12:56:47] <aerth> yes
1586 [12:56:56] <aerth> i386 or amd64?
1587 [12:57:11] <fishbulb> 64
1588 [12:57:47] <aerth> Here is the XFCE live cd, there are others to choose from also: replaced-url
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1590 [12:58:13] <fishbulb> could you link the gnome one please
1591 [12:58:40] <aerth> i believe its the default: replaced-url
1592 [12:58:50] <aerth> so "cd 1"
1593 [12:59:11] <aerth> woops
1594 [12:59:17] <fishbulb> why are there 8 cds?
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1597 [12:59:29] <Brigo> fishbulb, use the netinstall and at some point you will be asked for your prefered graphic environment.
1598 [12:59:36] <aerth> replaced-url
1599 [12:59:48] <Brigo> fishbulb, all debian: 30000 packages
1600 [13:00:08] <themill> (don't use the live cd if you are trying to install)
1601 [13:00:09] <Brigo> fishbulb, for machines without internet connection.
1602 [13:00:23] <fishbulb> what do I use to install
1603 [13:00:31] <aerth> netinstall
1604 [13:00:31] <themill> the installer, surprisingly
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1606 [13:00:43] <aerth> i use live, is that bad
1607 [13:01:13] <fishbulb> I'm downloading live
1608 [13:01:15] <themill> Depends on whether the live-installer's bugs are a problem for you or not
1609 [13:01:22] <fishbulb> bugs?
1610 [13:01:27] <fishbulb> surely not
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1613 [13:01:58] <fishbulb> perish the thought
1614 [13:01:59] <aerth> anyways the live usb will help in case your install gets messed up like before
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1617 [13:02:42] <aerth> cya
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1624 [13:05:34] <Alina-malina> I am having this error in my paniclog: User 0 set for procmail pipe transport is on the fixed never_users list and i cant find this never_users its like gone
1625 [13:05:40] <fishbulb> so the nonfree stuff
1626 [13:05:49] <fishbulb> you choose repos during the install?
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1628 [13:07:28] <fishbulb> can I choose the numix square stuff during install
1629 [13:07:40] <fishbulb> how it looks is relatively important
1630 [13:08:18] <FinalX> dont use procmail; use something like sieve. development of procmail stopped more than 15 years ago
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1632 [13:09:24] <FinalX> procmail also has unfixed security vulnerabilities; there's also maildrop
1633 [13:09:28] <themill> fishbulb: (a) concentrate on actually finishing the installation not on installing packages. (b) numix is not non-free (c) numix is not in jessie
1634 [13:09:45] <jelly> FinalX: it has accumulated a crapload of patches in debian, but still breaks sometimes
1635 [13:10:02] <fishbulb> I know how to install any version of linux
1636 [13:10:10] <jelly> FinalX: if you know of unpatched issues in debian packages PLEASE report to security@debian.org
1637 [13:10:11] <fishbulb> I've been essentially distro hopping for years
1638 [13:10:23] <themill> So why all the questions?
1639 [13:10:43] <fishbulb> because of all the free and non free and version numbers and whatever else
1640 [13:10:49] <fishbulb> I'm used to rolling
1641 [13:10:56] <FinalX> jelly: well, debian maintenance is not the same as developer maintenance. while I do appreciate the work of the Debian maintainers, using software that has been out of development for 15+ years is a really bad idea.
1642 [13:11:13] <themill> fishbulb: so maybe my answer is relevant then...
1643 [13:11:21] <FinalX> (and the original has unfixed security vulnerabilities, I'm quite sure the Debian maintainers have patched them, or they wouldn't end up in current Debian releases)
1644 [13:11:44] <themill> fishbulb: so far you've ignored every piece of sensible advice you've been given. Good luck with that.
1645 [13:11:53] <fishbulb> can I add non free repos
1646 [13:12:18] <TomTomTosch> yes
1647 [13:12:35] <fishbulb> can I choose them during install?
1648 [13:12:57] <fishbulb> because things like nvidia drivers and stuff are non free
1649 [13:13:12] <jelly> fishbulb: nope
1650 [13:13:57] <fishbulb> how do I add the nonfree repos, because there's nvidia and a ton of other things that probably aren't "free" enough
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1652 [13:14:22] <themill> fishbulb: concentrate on actually finishing the installation not on installing packages.
1653 [13:14:25] <n4dir> The first step: install debian.
1654 [13:14:31] <jelly> right
1655 [13:14:48] <fishbulb> installation shouldn't be too hard
1656 [13:14:57] <n4dir> You ask for half an hour. In the same time you could have installed it and done half of the configuration needed.
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1658 [13:15:03] <OerHeks> fishbulb, are there linux distros that allows adding nonfree during install??
1659 [13:15:06] <fishbulb> it's downloading
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1661 [13:15:16] <fishbulb> OerHeks: yes
1662 [13:15:54] <nkuttler> OerHeks: debian
1663 [13:16:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> 160MB need half an hour to download?
1664 [13:16:40] <jelly> maybe more
1665 [13:16:58] <CutMeOwnThroat> 160MB need more than half an hour to download?
1666 [13:17:03] <n4dir> makes you wish the business-card iso would be still around, huh?
1667 [13:17:09] <n4dir> :-)
1668 [13:17:36] <FinalX> I do not miss the days that it took me that long to download 160MB at home.
1669 [13:17:43] <FinalX> Now it's done in seconds :P
1670 [13:17:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> and nobody could use the phone while you were doing it
1671 [13:17:56] <fishbulb> 160mb ?
1672 [13:18:13] <fishbulb> I'm writing to usb now
1673 [13:18:17] <fishbulb> it's larger than that
1674 [13:18:23] <FinalX> I now have 500mbit down, 800mbit up now at home.. :)
1675 [13:18:26] <FinalX> -now
1676 [13:19:09] <fishbulb> I'm in australia, when I was personally inventing/installing/maintaining the new fibre system here, I should have done things differently, blaming me is appreciated
1677 [13:19:45] * FinalX blames you (just because you appreciate it) :P
1678 [13:20:04] <fishbulb> it's well over a gb
1679 [13:20:21] <themill> that would be another bit of advice you already ignored...
1680 [13:20:37] <fishbulb> how bout I ignore you
1681 [13:21:50] <TomTomTosch> so you download the gnome live image instead of the installer?
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1683 [13:22:03] <jonathan_x> fishbulb: adding a non-free repo would probably be copying a line in /etc/apt/sources.list and adding "nonfree" there.
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1685 [13:22:16] <jonathan_x> or just adding it to an existing line I guess.
1686 [13:22:36] <fishbulb> trying the live one
1687 [13:22:42] <fishbulb> cheers
1688 [13:23:07] <themill> jonathan_x: except without the misspelling
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1690 [13:23:27] <jonathan_x> themill: yes so you say it is "non-free"?
1691 [13:23:45] <themill> indeed
1692 [13:23:48] <jonathan_x> right
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1696 [13:29:44] <n4dir> !next
1697 [13:29:44] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1714 [13:39:31] <fishbulb> where's the wireless driver
1715 [13:39:50] <fishbulb> and where's dolphin and the other normal gnome stuff?
1716 [13:40:01] <towo`> dolphin is kde
1717 [13:40:21] <fishbulb> maybe I have the name wrong
1718 [13:40:22] <towo`> and your 1st question does not make many sense
1719 [13:40:40] <fishbulb> there is no wireless when trying to use the debian live iso
1720 [13:40:56] <towo`> you should know, most wireless chipsets needs non-free firmware, which is not shipped on a dfsg-media
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1722 [13:41:32] <towo`> then use an unofficial live-media with non-free firmware
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1724 [13:41:45] <fishbulb> where do I find that
1725 [13:42:04] <towo`> with using brain and a search engine?
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1731 [13:44:29] <jelly> dpkg, tell fishbulb about firmware images
1732 [13:44:33] <jelly> or not
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1741 [13:50:44] <fishbulb> jelly thanks, how should I copy my own content from a partition where I forgot the root password?
1742 [13:51:30] <fishbulb> the software etc I can download again, my own stuff is still on there, this netinstaller will just install debian
1743 [13:51:47] <n4dir> !chroot
1744 [13:51:47] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
1745 [13:51:51] <n4dir> and reset the password
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1747 [13:52:01] <fishbulb> it's not a debian system
1748 [13:52:03] <jelly> fishbulb: you have an old installation of some other distro or what?
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1750 [13:52:13] <fishbulb> yes some other distro
1751 [13:52:24] <n4dir> though if you boot a live and are rot, you can copy around as if there was no tomorrow
1752 [13:52:36] <jelly> fishbulb: mount the filesystem and copy the files, dunno, what's the problem?
1753 [13:52:58] <fishbulb> I haven't done it before and didn't know what to do.
1754 [13:53:06] <fishbulb> I suppose now I do.
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1756 [13:53:21] <fishbulb> I'll try it again
1757 [13:53:36] <jelly> there's no need to do chroot things, just mount it somewhere
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1761 [13:54:17] <n4dir> jelly: i was confused (focused on forgotten password, not on how to copy)
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1765 [13:55:16] <fishbulb> how do I get the latest software and nonfree stuff with debian?
1766 [13:55:59] <fishbulb> from memory the installer for debian is one of the better ones so installing it shouldn't be a problem
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1769 [13:57:52] <fishbulb> if there's an update to software I like to use the latest version, especially browsers and things like that
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1773 [13:59:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
1774 [14:00:05] <OerHeks> You will get securityupdates, and latest browser, but not always 'latest versions' fishbulb
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1776 [14:01:32] <fishbulb> the software I want to use is some cad packages, some illustration ones, they usually have updates now and then
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1779 [14:06:38] <jelly> fishbulb: if you're asking how to keep all the stuff up-to-date, replaced-url
1780 [14:07:01] <jelly> assuming they have apt repositories for debian
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1782 [14:09:01] <CrazyTux> hello, which is the most intuitive DE available in Linux? especially for those switching from Windows.
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1784 [14:09:43] <fishbulb> I'm wondering if it's the right distro becuase I'm used to arch having every latest update
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1786 [14:10:49] <fishbulb> CrazyTux: KDE is similar to the windows layout
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1789 [14:11:22] <CrazyTux> ok. Is it resource hungry?
1790 [14:11:55] <fishbulb> probably not really if your computer is from the last 5 years or so?
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1793 [14:12:06] <jelly> kde4 likes to have working opengl, but can work without
1794 [14:12:35] <CrazyTux> I have a laptop that I purchased this month.
1795 [14:12:44] <dontknow> kde plasma works great on 5 years old laptop
1796 [14:12:50] <fishbulb> then it should be more than ok
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1798 [14:12:57] <CrazyTux> ok. Will try that.
1799 [14:13:28] <jelly> ,v pxz
1800 [14:13:29] <judd> Package: pxz on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 4.999.99~beta3+git659fc9b-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.999.99~beta3+git659fc9b-3; sid: 4.999.99~beta5+gitfcfea93-1; stretch: 4.999.99~beta5+gitfcfea93-1
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1807 [14:16:51] <fishbulb> pxz?
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1812 [14:18:04] <deuser> a stupid question. i have windows 10 as host system but can't get guest debian's ip address (bridge mode). any way i can use debian guest vbox to know its own ip address (non external) in bridged mode?
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1816 [14:18:46] <deuser> in debian i use /sbin/ifconfig to find its own ip. but ssh from window box, win complains connection refused.
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1818 [14:19:22] <deuser> the ip address of win 10 and debian are different but both stays in the same sub netmask.
1819 [14:20:23] <petn-randall> deuser: Just log in through the frontend on your Debian machine.
1820 [14:20:40] <jelly> deuser: in bridged mode, there's no "internal" or "external" really
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1826 [14:21:56] <jelly> the guest vms see the same network as the host, which provides a bridge to that physical network
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1828 [14:22:41] <jelly> fishbulb: pxz was not relevant for you
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1846 [14:29:35] <deuser> or is it possible that the host's network address is different from guest os? i notice that host has 10.2.34.33 but guest uses 10.2.29.41. both shares the same sub mask, but can't ping or ssh from host to guest. anything i can check because i need to ssh from win to debian?
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1849 [14:30:09] <jelly> deuser: what's the actual value of netmask?
1850 [14:30:23] <deuser> 255.255.254.0
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1852 [14:30:41] <jelly> then those two have different configured segments
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1854 [14:31:25] <deuser> does that means the request to the dhcp having different segment assigned?
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1856 [14:31:51] <deuser> if so, anyway i can force e.g. debian to use the same network segment?
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1862 [14:32:09] <jelly> deuser: yes, it's likely the dhcp server gave them different segments. You will have to configure your dhcp server.
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1866 [14:33:09] <deuser> jelly: how can i achieve that? install another dhcp server and let both to acquire from that dhcp server?
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1876 [14:35:49] <j4ckcom> my hard disk is formated, so contents is gone. so i can survive it with debian tools?
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1880 [14:36:39] <jelly> deuser: no, configure the existing one properly
1881 [14:36:56] <jelly> avoid having two in the same segment
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1886 [14:38:14] <deuser> jelly: unfortunately i have no way to configure that. it's not the server i can control : (
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1889 [14:39:08] <jelly> deuser: then you have a problem. In any case make sure there's only one dhcp server existing on the network, and try again
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1892 [14:39:24] <jelly> (don't install one on the vm host, for example)
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1894 [14:39:55] <tortal> as virtual guest, for development purposes (everything from python, java to haskell), ive been so far running ubuntu server or debian and then SSH:ing into it fomr a windows host. Now I feel to switch to a linux desktop. I am looking for tips regarding choice. Lubuntu or debian with LXDE ?
1895 [14:40:03] <PaulePanter> E: The repository 'replaced-url
1896 [14:40:08] <PaulePanter> … do I need to worry?
1897 [14:41:25] <themill> PaulePanter: httpredir has been reconfigured in the last day or two but it should still work just fine.
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1899 [14:42:52] <themill> PaulePanter: do you have a local dns cache that needs kicking?
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1907 [14:47:09] <PaulePanter> themill: Looks like it. Thanks.
1908 [14:47:28] <PaulePanter> Sorry for the noise. It looks like it’s a general DNS issue.
1909 [14:48:00] <themill> that happens
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1912 [14:48:41] <PaulePanter> systemd-resolved.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=226/NAMESPACE
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1915 [14:49:49] <angor> guys, where can I find info about environment variables for scripts in /etc/if-up.d (if-down.d)?
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1922 [14:51:25] <jelly> angor: man 5 interfaces and docs under /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/ probably
1923 [14:52:02] <jelly> angor: assuming you typo'd /etc/network/if-up.d
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1930 [14:55:40] <angor> jelly: yep, /etc/network/...
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1935 [14:57:55] <angor> jelly: I missed this info in man interfaces :( thanks!
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1948 [15:03:18] <Lavinho> good morning
1949 [15:03:29] <Lavinho> how to chnge layou keyboard debian 8
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1962 [15:09:23] <tw> for anyone who was wondering from yesterday, I did manage to get that passsword-switches-underlying-FDE thing to work with some modification to initrd/scripts/local-top/cryptroot by allowing two devices in crypttab and trying them in order. This probably breaks some other package outside of cryptsetup which parses that file.
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1989 [15:18:28] <CutMeOwnThroat> tw, didn't see that yesterday… but if I guess correctly what you did… nice.
1990 [15:18:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> maybe document it somewhere?
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1999 [15:21:35] <nodiscc> hello, i have a web server running an RSS feed reader. every time I update my feeds a lot of firewall blocks appear in the firewall log (ufw). eg:
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2006 [15:22:45] <nodiscc> the ip addresses match hosts from whom I fetch rss feeds
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2008 [15:23:19] <nodiscc> it looks like an already established connection that's being blocked, even though I have allowed RELATED and ESTABLISHED connections in my config
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2010 [15:23:48] <nodiscc> conntrack modules are correctly loaded. what's wrong?
2011 [15:24:17] <petn-randall> nodiscc: Looks like you're blocking part of that traffic. ACK + RST is probably part of closing handshake, so if it works, there's probably not too much to worry about.
2012 [15:25:40] <nodiscc> petn-randall: indeed it does not affect anything else (feeds are correctly fetched). It just clutters my logs
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2014 [15:26:59] <nodiscc> what would be the proper way of getting rid of those messages?
2015 [15:27:25] <sandman13> Not logging them? :P
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2017 [15:28:04] <petn-randall> nodiscc: Which kernel are you running?
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2021 [15:28:30] <nodiscc> petn-randall: 3.16.0-4-amd64
2022 [15:28:31] <SanchoPensa> hey, guys!
2023 [15:28:58] <SanchoPensa> when I try to mount an anfs share, i get the following error message: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
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2026 [15:29:17] <SanchoPensa> mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd.
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2028 [15:29:33] <nodiscc> ufw 0.33-2
2029 [15:29:58] <SanchoPensa> now, i have googled this error and tried a few things, liek adding my subnet and my localhost to hosts.allow
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2031 [15:30:27] <nodiscc> sandman13: I've thought about that but these should not be blocked in the first place...
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2034 [15:30:33] <SanchoPensa> but i think the main problem is, there is no such thing like a rpc.statd on my system, and also I cannot find one with ap-cache search
2035 [15:30:39] <SanchoPensa> what am I missing?
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2044 [15:32:00] <petn-randall> SanchoPensa: Found it with replaced-url
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2046 [15:33:37] <SanchoPensa> petn-randall: so, according th debia.org, it is contained within nfs-common?
2047 [15:33:40] <nodiscc> found this which could explain my problem: replaced-url
2048 [15:33:43] <SanchoPensa> cos i just installed that one
2049 [15:33:47] <nodiscc> > blocking RST-ACK does no harm whatever, and is often an accidental consequence of using stateful firewalls
2050 [15:33:55] <SanchoPensa> how can it still not be terhe tehn?
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2053 [15:35:10] <tw> CutMeOwnThroat: I'll try to clean it up some more first, then probably dump my procedure on github.
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2055 [15:35:42] <SanchoPensa> ok, statd IS there, namely in /sbin/statd. only it doesn't start.
2056 [15:35:49] <SanchoPensa> what the hell?!?
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2059 [15:38:17] <petn-randall> SanchoPensa: Check the README, I'm pretty sure you have to explicitely activate certain things.
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2061 [15:39:52] <SanchoPensa> petn-randall: actually, I have done that, and actually it says there, they should be started automatically.
2062 [15:39:58] <sandman13> nodiscc: But other messages on the same thread point that this is unexpected behaviour and isn't according to RFCs
2063 [15:41:01] <nodiscc> yeas apparently this is not RFC compliant...
2064 [15:41:25] <petn-randall> SanchoPensa: Are you sure you don't have to activate it in /etc/default/nfs-common? Have you checked if the service failed?
2065 [15:41:32] <nodiscc> thanks for your help i have a clearer picture now
2066 [15:41:59] <SanchoPensa> petn-randall: it is a little hard to tell, as the service has exactly ZERO output, no matter, what switch you use
2067 [15:42:05] <SanchoPensa> it is really weird...
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2069 [15:42:20] <SanchoPensa> i think, I'll do teh windows thing and reboot... :D
2070 [15:42:23] <SanchoPensa> brb
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2073 [15:43:14] <petn-randall> SanchoPensa: ... or
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2075 [15:43:37] <petn-randall> OR you just activate it in /etc/default/nfs-common, as I said. *sigh*
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2077 [15:44:25] <jelly> nah!
2078 [15:44:54] <petn-randall> I'm sure rebooting helps. If in doubt, reboot once more.
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2085 [15:47:20] <fishbulb> the debian unofficial firmware net installer says a couple of things need to be loaded from media, but won
2086 [15:47:24] <fishbulb> 'tt load them
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2088 [15:47:42] <fishbulb> so the wireless card doesn't detect or work
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2090 [15:48:17] <fishbulb> and I need to install with wireless
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2099 [15:51:53] <unborn> fishbulb: sure.. while installing it or after install is done?
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2101 [15:52:06] <fishbulb> while installing, so I can't install it
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2104 [15:52:47] <unborn> fishbulb: if the case is while installing it... the easiest way to load those is connect your machine via ethernet cable and just install.. once install is finish, and machine is rebooted, log in and connect..
2105 [15:53:03] <fishbulb> if that was an option I would do it
2106 [15:53:09] <unborn> if that does not worked for you.. then come back :)
2107 [15:53:13] <fishbulb> I need to install with wireless
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2110 [15:53:40] <unborn> fishbulb: ah you have no access to your own router then?
2111 [15:53:44] <fishbulb> I can't install over ethernet, I need to install over wifi
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2113 [15:53:59] <nodiscc> fishbulb: another way is to try the unofficial installer which includes non-free firmware
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2116 [15:54:11] <fishbulb> I have the unoficcial installer with the nonfree firmware
2117 [15:54:43] <fishbulb> can you please read what I type? it says during detecting the network hardware that a couple of things need to be loaded or installed or whatever, but it won't do that
2118 [15:54:51] <unborn> nodiscc: that always failed me as well.. I had to put driver I need to usb and load while I was installing it however it did never accepted password for wifi it self for some reason..
2119 [15:55:15] <fishbulb> it won't load the firmware for the wifi and it can't detect the wifi
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2122 [15:56:09] <unborn> fishbulb: re read you.. i am sorry for your troubles.. best bet would be to just do install with ethernet cable.. once done you should be able to connect to wifi with nearly all wifi chips.
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2124 [15:56:53] <fishbulb> ok I'll have to wait until another day
2125 [15:56:56] <fishbulb> I can't do that
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2128 [15:57:12] <unborn> fishbulb: yes you can
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2131 [15:58:09] <unborn> fishbulb: I have no link how to load drivers from usb stick while installation of debian - at least I do not remember it.. so google it.. there is somewhere official wiki.debian.net page about this and it works
2132 [15:59:43] <bezaban> unborn: there is a difference between loading specific drivers from USB and enabling non-free repos during install
2133 [16:00:11] <bezaban> oh right. I was replying to something a little earlier. Disregard :)
2134 [16:00:28] <unborn> bezaban: sure.. but not on nonfree distro he is trying to install it.. unless I miss-understand it
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2136 [16:00:35] <fishbulb> I have the unofficial firmware version of the netinstall for debian
2137 [16:00:40] <fishbulb> but it won't load the drivers for some reason
2138 [16:00:53] <bezaban> replaced-url
2139 [16:00:56] <fishbulb> it knows which drivers it needs to load, maybe they aren't on there? or maybe something is fucked
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2144 [16:01:26] <fishbulb> it selects two files that it needs but won't load them
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2153 [16:06:21] <unborn> fishbulb: obviously you would need to download those drivers to your usb with internet.. then once you have iso loaded and installer started there are few steps you would have to do to be able to install drivers from usb.. now - I would suggest you to download nonfree iso with some gui as a live and once wifi working in live environment - connect your pc / laptop machine to ethernet and install..
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2156 [16:07:58] <unborn> that is the safest way to do it. if you cannot access your own router/modem - wifi source via cable then it means you may dont use your own source of the net which could be spoofed or something, just do not trust anything if you have no control of it.. - do it somehow differently.
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2158 [16:08:14] <unborn> I mean regard internet connection.
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2163 [16:10:39] <jelly> fishbulb: things like that can happen if you use helper utilities like unetbootin or rufus to write the bootable usb. It's also possible your hardware is just too new so the required firmware really isn't present, or the unofficial image may be buggy.
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2165 [16:11:08] <fishbulb> I used rufus
2166 [16:11:13] <fishbulb> I can use rufus in DD mode
2167 [16:11:19] <unborn> heh
2168 [16:11:22] <fishbulb> since I have access to windows only right at this minute
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2170 [16:11:36] <jelly> !win32diskimager
2171 [16:11:37] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
2172 [16:11:42] <jelly> fishbulb: ^^ use that
2173 [16:12:09] <fishbulb> rufus has always worked
2174 [16:12:16] <unborn> ...and read the wiki - read the docs!
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2176 [16:12:55] <unborn> fishbulb: yeah but software changes - as usual.. with all those updates.. times changing so software too..
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2178 [16:13:23] <tsuyubo> hi, i use fake make-kpkg compile & install kernel from linus's git tree,but it reports:
2179 [16:13:28] <fishbulb> I don't ever use windows
2180 [16:13:48] <unborn> fishbulb: yes, you just said so.
2181 [16:13:48] <tsuyubo> can't obtain REPORTING_BUGS's stat
2182 [16:13:53] <missmbob> tsuyubo: that's deprecated. use make deb-pkg per the kernel handbook
2183 [16:14:01] <fishbulb> I'm using it now as an emergency
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2185 [16:14:47] <tsuyubo> missmbob: Could you give me a link?
2186 [16:15:14] <unborn> ...doesnt matter, you are on windows and you using right now.. fishbulb, just get your thingy sorted so you dont have to be in that ugly environment ;)
2187 [16:15:16] <missmbob> Tsutsukakushi: replaced-url
2188 [16:15:23] <missmbob> tsuyubo: ^^
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2190 [16:15:50] <unborn> fishbulb: use what jelly told you.. it will work
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2192 [16:16:05] <tsuyubo> missmbob: Thx! :)
2193 [16:16:11] <fishbulb> I should have been asleep hours ago
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2196 [16:16:42] <unborn> fishbulb: sleeping is not related to debian.. you know that
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2198 [16:17:30] <jelly> NO WARRANTY
2199 [16:17:47] <fishbulb> on sleeping?
2200 [16:18:04] <fishbulb> I want my money back if it sucks
2201 [16:18:08] <unborn> jelly: he should be fine there.. I was about to pointing him in same directions.. all it takes is a bit of brain.
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2204 [16:18:46] <unborn> fishbulb: sure - what money?
2205 [16:18:49] <bezaban> fishbulb: you are entitled to a full refund of your acquisition costs. Lovely thing with debian.
2206 [16:18:54] <fishbulb> all of it
2207 [16:18:56] <unborn> donations?
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2209 [16:19:07] <unborn> fishbulb: go for it
2210 [16:19:17] <fishbulb> all the money
2211 [16:19:29] <unborn> fishbulb: yet again, its not related to debian nor this channel
2212 [16:19:39] <fishbulb> give me your money then
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2214 [16:20:06] <unborn> - okay, once question was answered it starts trolling..
2215 [16:20:23] <unborn> fishbulb: disregards all of my msgs. good luck
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2221 [16:23:11] <SanchoPensa> pre
2222 [16:23:13] <dale6998> hello
2223 [16:23:37] <dale6998> can i get some help with mysql?
2224 [16:23:43] <SanchoPensa> petn-randall: restarting did the trick!
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2226 [16:23:51] <dale6998> i cannot reach that port from an outside computer on the same LAN
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2228 [16:24:06] <nodiscc> good to see that win32diskimager is now the recommended method
2229 [16:24:26] <petn-randall> dale6998: I think mysql by default just listens on loopback.
2230 [16:24:40] <unborn> nodiscc: if on windows I would recommend this as only the way if on linux then dd
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2232 [16:25:08] <dale6998> petn-randall: that's true...i've changed the bind address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to 0.0.0.0
2233 [16:25:16] <dale6998> petn-randall: then restarted
2234 [16:25:29] <unborn> SanchoPensa: you should let your server know the ip of the machine who is allowed to connect to remote things..
2235 [16:25:52] <unborn> I would say not to 0.0.0.0 but to * but of course that depend on your own setup
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2237 [16:26:21] <unborn> SanchoPensa: sorry that was for dale6998 and not for you.
2238 [16:26:24] <SanchoPensa> unborn: I did, thank you
2239 [16:26:39] <SanchoPensa> unborn: never mind, I still did! :D
2240 [16:26:58] <unborn> SanchoPensa: :)
2241 [16:27:06] <petn-randall> dale6998: What error do you get on the client and the server?
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2244 [16:27:27] <dale6998> petn-randall: nmap -T4 -a -V localhost shows that 3306 open
2245 [16:27:55] <dale6998> but, when i do that command on a different box in the same lan, I see many of the same ports open, but 3306 isn't one of them
2246 [16:28:06] <dale6998> unborn: i'll try that
2247 [16:28:20] <missmbob> dale6998: 3306 isnt open to outside by default
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2249 [16:28:46] <petn-randall> missmbob: they already changed to wildcard interface, see the backlog.
2250 [16:28:49] <FinalX> how about you don't use nmap, but use netstat or lsof to see if it's actually listening? :p
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2252 [16:28:57] <unborn> petn-randall: also dale6998 what ports you have open if you behind the nat.. if 3306 is open that means it is listening however you have to tell your server (mysql) that you allowing some sort of ip range to connect there.. if only on ip - just tell it to allow, restast mysql and try connect
2253 [16:29:00] <FinalX> lsof -ni | grep mysql
2254 [16:29:12] <dale6998> FinalX: will do
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2256 [16:29:27] <unborn> petn-randall: dale6998 sorry I typed a bit longer - but you both get my message
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2259 [16:30:18] <petn-randall> unborn: What does the problem have to do with NAT?
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2262 [16:30:34] <FinalX> if you don't have lsof (reads easier), you can use "netstat -nl | grep ^tcp | grep 3306
2263 [16:30:54] <FinalX> should say 0.0.0.0:3306, but it might say 127.0.0.1:3306 (default)
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2265 [16:31:14] <unborn> petn-randall: a lot acutally.. he is trying to connect outside client to server and then to mysql.. but see - he is not doing this via ssh.. so it does affect him
2266 [16:31:25] <FinalX> can also do a simple "telnet <publicip of the machine> 3306" to see if it connects. if it does, it's a firewall issue.
2267 [16:31:28] <petn-randall> or just 'netstat -npl | grep :3306'
2268 [16:32:13] <unborn> petn-randall: ssh means you connect to server and then you do your own stuff there as you are localhost - he asked for remote connection (not via ssh - means outside of localhost) - at least that is what I did understand
2269 [16:32:19] <petn-randall> dale6998: Is NAT involved in this setup?
2270 [16:32:26] <unborn> ...since I use this daily
2271 [16:32:48] <petn-randall> unborn: I didn't need an explanation, thanks.
2272 [16:32:57] <dale6998> FinalX: *:mysql (LISTEN)
2273 [16:33:15] <unborn> petn-randall: my apologies - i did not wont to annoy anyone. im sorry.
2274 [16:33:32] <FinalX> dale6998: then it listens on all interfaces, then it's a firewall issue
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2276 [16:34:05] <Neobenedict> whats the best tool to transfer 7tb of stuff between servers that could continue if it was stopped suddenly
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2278 [16:34:27] <unborn> rsync
2279 [16:34:40] <unborn> Neobenedict: ^^^
2280 [16:34:48] <dale6998> petn-randall: i'm...not sure...i'm trying to figure this out as i go...the guy who used to administer this thing left
2281 [16:35:00] <dale6998> petn-randall: so, i don't know as much as i wish i could
2282 [16:35:11] <dale6998> FinalX: i'm running the netstat command
2283 [16:35:29] <Neobenedict> thx
2284 [16:35:46] <FinalX> netstat will only show the same thing, possibly as tcp 0.0.0.0:3306; you need to look at your firewall config and att incoming tcp 3306 to the allow list
2285 [16:35:51] <FinalX> add*
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2287 [16:36:20] <dale6998> FinalX: you are exactly right
2288 [16:36:26] <dale6998> FinalX: firewall, you say?
2289 [16:36:36] <dale6998> can i killall iptables as a test?
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2291 [16:37:24] <unborn> - yes but firewall exactly is not the only thingy to look for.. you have to tell your mysql server to allow remote connection from ip or ips...
2292 [16:37:26] <petn-randall> dale6998: 'iptables -L -vn' will show you if you have any firewall rules.
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2294 [16:37:36] <unborn> dale6998: sure you can
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2298 [16:39:17] <dale6998> ok, Chain INPUT: target:ACCEPT prot:tcp out:* source:0.0.0.0/0 destination:0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3306
2299 [16:39:23] <dale6998> I've got three rules for that
2300 [16:39:33] <dale6998> Chain FORWARD and Chain OUTPUT have no rules
2301 [16:39:53] <petn-randall> dale6998: What error do you get when you try to connect from the outside?
2302 [16:39:54] <dale6998> and I can't copy and paste from this damn terminal UXRVT
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2305 [16:40:29] <jelly> dale6998: select with left mouse button and hold, paste with middle button
2306 [16:40:38] <ksk> Hey Guys, been trying to install iptables-persistent on jessie, which depends on netfilter-persistent, which wants to load the "usbkbd" kernel module. however, in debian stable kernel: "# CONFIG_USB_KBD is not set" - Am I doing it wrong? thanks.
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2308 [16:41:15] <dale6998> telnet 192.168.0.28 3306 gives telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused
2309 [16:41:26] <jelly> ksk: that's very weird, why would anything netfilter want to load usbkbd
2310 [16:41:39] <dale6998> jelly: That doesn't do it...I'm also running TMUX, so there's probably more to the story
2311 [16:42:27] <unborn> - telnet in 2017? - heh
2312 [16:42:31] <ksk> jelly: true that, Ill paste it..
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2316 [16:42:58] <dale6998> petn-randall: telnet 192.168.0.28 3306 gives telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused
2317 [16:43:05] <dale6998> petn-randall: sorry, forgot to tag you
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2319 [16:43:22] <petn-randall> dale6998: And the server is running on 192.168.0.28? What is the IP of the client?
2320 [16:43:34] <unborn> :D
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2322 [16:43:58] <jelly> unborn: telnet's the handiest tool to check tcp connectivity, available on almost every linux and unix
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2325 [16:44:13] <armin> hi. can i have the popularity-contest package installed, but disabled? in what file would i configure that to be disabled, if so?
2326 [16:44:16] <unborn> jelly: is it better then ssh?
2327 [16:44:25] <jelly> definitely
2328 [16:44:26] <unborn> jelly: in 2017..
2329 [16:44:30] <unborn> oh sorry
2330 [16:44:42] <unborn> - nods that
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2332 [16:44:52] <jelly> fuck dude, read the whole sentences
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2334 [16:45:22] <ksk> mhhm, I cannot reproduce on a second jessie machine, so I probably did some mistake here. thanks anyway.
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2336 [16:45:39] <unborn> jelly: i do. I get you do not like me seriously I did read it all.
2337 [16:46:03] <unborn> and I noted your sayings.
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2342 [16:48:15] <jelly> unborn: but you didn't understand the "tool to check tcp connectivity" part then
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2345 [16:49:18] <unborn> jelly: perhaps I didnt.. or perhaps I did not seen your message about it.. let me re - read it whole.
2346 [16:49:22] <unborn> thanks
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2348 [16:50:12] <unborn> nope.. from log I should not miss anything.. jelly can you tell me what did I miss please..
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2350 [16:50:47] <jelly> unborn: <dale6998> telnet 192.168.0.28 3306 gives telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused <unborn> - telnet in 2017? - heh <jelly> unborn: telnet's the handiest tool to check tcp connectivity, available on almost every linux and unix
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2353 [16:50:51] <unborn> ..perhaps I did missed logs from 12 hours.. meh
2354 [16:51:00] <jelly> that was like 5 minutes ago
2355 [16:51:05] <greycat> You use telnet to check whether a TCP port is willing to accept connections from you, and for some protocols, to actually *send data* and *receive data* to verify proper operations.
2356 [16:51:19] <unborn> oh.. I see it now
2357 [16:51:23] <greycat> You can't do that with ssh because ssh is a specific tool with its own specific protocols.
2358 [16:51:53] <unborn> - apologies to jelly from me.
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2360 [16:52:38] <jelly> unborn: good. Now, please don't get upset, but you do this kind of ignoring parts of what someone said the whole time, and this incomplete understanding creates a lot of confusion and bad advice
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2363 [16:53:13] <unborn> anyway he would not be able to connect to mysql with all iptables and firewall and all routing things till he will not let the mysql server know he would be able to alter tables and manipulate the db it self.
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2368 [16:54:37] <unborn> jelly - nah I am not upset and I wont be - I am learning from my past. i am only human - thats all I am. I get you, I generate 10 times noise towards my single reply so - im sorry about that. have go with the issue you are troubleshooting it. i will hawk.
2369 [16:54:51] <unborn> - i am sorry.
2370 [16:54:52] <petn-randall> unborn: That only happens after evaluating checking username and password, so you wouldn't instantly get "connection refused".
2371 [16:55:08] <dale6998> petn-randall: sorry, i got disconnected....did i miss anything?
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2373 [16:55:22] <petn-randall> dale6998: And the server is running on 192.168.0.28? What is the IP of the client?
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2375 [16:56:08] <dale6998> petn-randall: client is 192.168.0.116
2376 [16:56:31] <greycat> If you get "connection refused" that is a VERY specific and useful error message. It means there is nothing listening on that port at all, *or* your TCP packets have been rejected by a firewall at the kernel level. NOT at the application level.
2377 [16:56:48] <petn-randall> What greycat said, yes.
2378 [16:56:49] <greycat> If you get a connection, but then it drops a moment later, that's the application level.
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2381 [16:57:30] <petn-randall> dale6998: Have you double-checked the IP addresses are correct?
2382 [16:57:42] <kingkong-> hi. my crontabs not works. how can i fix it ? im on wheezy
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2384 [16:57:57] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
2385 [16:57:57] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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2392 [16:59:23] <dale6998> petn-randall: I've doubled checked in that 192.168.0.28 connects to the VM's LAMP server and 192.168.0.28/Bugzilla connects to Bugzilla's web interface
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2395 [16:59:31] <unborn> no noise from me but greycat: is right as I was saying..all the times :)
2396 [16:59:59] <kingkong-> i don't know what it makes. but its not restarting process. how can i get error messages of crontab ?
2397 [17:00:20] <dale6998> I'm also using ZenMap on the 192.168.0.116 laptop and I can see that 22, 80, 135, 139, 445, 2869, 3389, etc... are open on 192.168.0.28
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2399 [17:01:11] <petn-randall> kingkong-: What is your crontab entry exactly? Most common problem is that in crontab many things like PATH aren't set. So if you have .e.g 'ifconfig' in there, it won't run because it can't find the program. You need to use full paths everywhere.
2400 [17:01:13] <i11ega1Code> hello, i'm kinda new to running servers, can anyone please tell me what access.log and error.log is _
2401 [17:01:21] <dale6998> greycat: how could that be? FinalX 's lsof command shows that it's listening on 0.0.0.0 for all traffic on port 3306
2402 [17:01:42] <petn-randall> i11ega1Code: How far did you get with your own internet search?
2403 [17:02:00] <i11ega1Code> haha
2404 [17:02:13] <i11ega1Code> im to illegal for google
2405 [17:02:15] <greycat> dale6998: then either you're using the wrong IP, or the wrong port, or there is a firewall involved somewhere in the chain.
2406 [17:02:38] <petn-randall> i11ega1Code: There's not much we can do for you then.
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2408 [17:02:42] <greycat> i11ega1Code: it should be really simple to just read those files and see what they are
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2410 [17:02:56] <dale6998> greycat: i'm not above killing any and all security measures...how can i destroy any firewalls that could be part of the chain?
2411 [17:02:56] <FinalX> dale6998: telnet publicip 3306, if it says Connected, but drops the connection after, it'll show you a message. for example "This host is not allowed to connect", then there's no user in MySQL that matches the host you're coming from. If it doesn't say anything, but drops the connection after connecting, it's tcwrappers (see /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny)
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2414 [17:03:28] <FinalX> if it doesn't connect at all, while mysql is listening on it, it's iptables in the way
2415 [17:03:36] <i11ega1Code> access? is this true? can i see who have accessed my site? wow
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2417 [17:03:38] <FinalX> or ufw / any frontend to netfilter
2418 [17:03:45] <greycat> i11ega1Code: just read the file.
2419 [17:03:52] <i11ega1Code> doing
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2422 [17:04:03] <petn-randall> i11ega1Code: What OS are you running?
2423 [17:04:14] <i11ega1Code> debian
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2425 [17:04:43] <dale6998> FinalX: ok, I do--- telnet 192.168.0.28 80 and that connects
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2427 [17:04:59] <FinalX> but mysql doesn't run on 80
2428 [17:05:02] <FinalX> it runs on 3306
2429 [17:05:19] <greycat> It shows that the firewall is port-specific.
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2431 [17:05:27] <dale6998> FinalX: ok, I do--- telnet 192.168.0.28 3306 and i get: Trying 192.168.0.28... telnet: Unable to connec to remote host: Connection Refused
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2434 [17:05:52] <dale6998> FinalX: I know...I just wanted to show that the 192.168.0.28 points to a living and breathing system
2435 [17:06:37] <FinalX> ok; then I'd assume iptables is REJECT'ing anything that's not specifically allowed. what do you use to manage your firewall?
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2437 [17:07:01] <FinalX> we use ferm because it's very easy to use, which is a frontend to iptables; but there's also stuff like ufw or other kinds of netfilter managers
2438 [17:07:33] <unborn> FinalX: its not your iptables.. as your mysql port is open means its not blocked and it is listening.. - just telling you.
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2440 [17:07:55] <FinalX> unborn: eh? I think you haven't been paying attention :P
2441 [17:08:05] <unborn> FinalX: yes.
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2443 [17:08:20] <petn-randall> unborn: "Unable to connec to remote host: Connection Refused" is a dead give-away that it _IS_ blocked.
2444 [17:08:28] <dale6998> FinalX: i'm not sure what he was using (if anything) for iptables
2445 [17:08:59] <FinalX> dale6998: try: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT
2446 [17:09:00] <dale6998> FinalX: again, once i get this database off this machine, i'm torching it...so, i am more than willing to recklessly abandon any and all good security practices
2447 [17:09:09] <kingkong-> petn-randall: i have PATH in crontab and scripts inside. replaced-url
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2451 [17:09:39] <FinalX> dale6998: it'll insert a rule to allow incoming connections to tcp port 3306 from any host, and it'll insert the rule at the top of your firewall list
2452 [17:09:44] <dale6998> FinalX: it returns nothing
2453 [17:09:55] <FinalX> no, but it'll show up with iptables -nL at the top of the INPUT chain
2454 [17:09:56] <dale6998> FinalX: oh, ok...returning nothing makes sense then
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2456 [17:10:40] <FinalX> inserting at the top is the more useful part, because if something is explicitly blocking it with another rule, you'll not hit that
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2459 [17:10:50] <unborn> petn-randall: as I said, if iptables only on server its all fine, server listening on port its all fine.. he need or he should be telling his mysql server to allow for remote connection for ip.. or ips.. I do it as well.. since last year - have no idea if that is new or was there all the times.. also I am thinking that user does not use ssh - that is my common sense.. mysql must be told to allow remote connection from ip or ips.
2460 [17:12:02] <FinalX> unborn: you have CLEARLY not being paying attention. MySQL IS listening on all interfaces, he CAN connect to other services running on the same host, the only thing that can be causing a "Connection refused" when the application is actually listening on that interface and port, is a filter with a REJECT rule (not even DROP)
2461 [17:12:04] <unborn> petn-randall: that is my go.. if I am wrong sure, but this way its working for me on my server for past last year.. so - perhaps I could be very much wrong
2462 [17:12:27] <FinalX> we already established all of that.. I'm not even the one having the problem, I'm trying to help the one that has the problem ( dale6998 )
2463 [17:12:41] <petn-randall> unborn: Please provide specific mysql options that would block that before checking the username. Otherwise you're wasting people's time here.
2464 [17:12:48] <unborn> FinalX: that is what I just.. yes you right. sorry.
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2470 [17:13:59] <FinalX> dale6998: can you connect now from the other host? if not, you can still try and flush the entire iptables ruleset, but, this should've done the trick by now :p
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2472 [17:14:20] <kingkong-> petn-randall: is my crontab file wrong ? i have PATH in crontab, script itself and .profile
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2476 [17:15:01] <unborn> petn-randall: i do not waste anyones times. I did provide my answer already.
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2480 [17:15:50] <petn-randall> kingkong-: Lines 24 and 26 make that crontab invalid.
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2484 [17:16:10] <kingkong-> if i run crontab command as manually then script checks if process running and reloading if not running yet. so, it means crontab not checks by auto ? why can be ?
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2486 [17:16:42] <i11ega1Code> what is incoming connection again_
2487 [17:16:57] <i11ega1Code> ez question guys
2488 [17:17:07] <kingkong-> petn-randall: 24 and 26 lines not in my crontab file. i use tablet pc and copy paste is problem. i will try again.
2489 [17:17:15] <dale6998> FinalX: still working over here...server trouble...hang tight
2490 [17:17:20] <FinalX> dale6998: ok
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2493 [17:17:33] <SerajewelKS> it's been sunday a lot in here this week :S
2494 [17:17:42] <i11ega1Code> what is incoming connection again?
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2496 [17:17:49] <petn-randall> kingkong-: Ah, ok. Looks good then. Remove the output redirection from line 38, and then check in /var/log/daemon.log for any errors.
2497 [17:18:04] <FinalX> i11ega1Code: when another networked device tries to contact the one that is receiving it
2498 [17:18:18] <unborn> ...as an example - replaced-url
2499 [17:18:29] <FinalX> no, we don't know his iptables works
2500 [17:18:38] <FinalX> we know it doesn't work, that's the point
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2502 [17:18:46] <stratmanuk> I've added this PPA - 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnomebaker/stable' but apt-get install gnomebaker doesn't locate the package on Jessie. Can anyone advise?
2503 [17:19:00] <i11ega1Code> FinalX: (nice nick) when another machine is trying to pull out some data of mine?
2504 [17:19:11] <unborn> By default remote access to the MySQL database server is disabled - that is what I was saying all the times.
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2506 [17:19:28] <greycat> !ppa
2507 [17:19:28] <dpkg> [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see replaced-url
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2509 [17:19:38] <jelly> stratmanuk: PPA repositories, in general, do not have binary builds for Debian unless the owner goes the extra mile and upload them manually
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2512 [17:19:57] <petn-randall> unborn: JESUS H. CHRIST. We already established that mysql is listening on the wildcard interface. Stopping spamming the channel with non-sense.
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2514 [17:20:05] * petn-randall plonks unborn.
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2516 [17:20:09] <stratmanuk> Ok I'll grab the tar file then, thanks.
2517 [17:20:10] <FinalX> i11ega1Code: well, network connections go two ways. machine A wants something from machine B, and will send a request to it. for machine B, that is an incoming connection; for machine A, that's an outgoing connection. machine B will respond in some way, which will go to machine A. that will then be an incoming connection for machine A.
2518 [17:20:29] <dale6998> FinalX: OH MY GOD!!! VirtualBox...OracleVirtualBox has an additional layer of port-forwarding in it's windows application!!!!
2519 [17:20:40] <FinalX> dale6998: lol :)
2520 [17:20:44] <dale6998> forwarded 3306 and it's all good...
2521 [17:20:49] <SerajewelKS> dale6998: yes, you only need this in NAT mode though
2522 [17:20:50] <unborn> petn-randall: yes.. it does however you did not establish if the user allowed mysql for remote connections.. - I am not spamming
2523 [17:20:55] <unborn> im just saying
2524 [17:21:16] <SerajewelKS> dale6998: if you use bridged mode then you don't need forwards
2525 [17:21:23] <dale6998> SerajewelKS: I see
2526 [17:21:27] <FinalX> unborn: but he _DID_ do that in MySQL already.. it's what we started with ... :p
2527 [17:21:35] <dale6998> SerajewelKS: Oh yeah, that makes sense...
2528 [17:21:36] <unborn> mysql requires separate permissions for that.. dont you get it?
2529 [17:21:43] <jelly> unborn: stop just saying. Only write something if it helps the user's actual issue. Otherwise, be quiet.
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2531 [17:22:29] <unborn> okay I get it. i did try to help by all my means.. there are other more capable to explain. please help him.
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2533 [17:22:46] <FinalX> are you just a troll, or what?
2534 [17:22:58] <FinalX> because it really starts to appear that way :|
2535 [17:23:27] <SerajewelKS> dale6998: if i intend to run services in VMs i will pretty much always use bridged mode. then it gets its own IP and forwarding nonsense isn't necessary.
2536 [17:23:39] <i11ega1Code> thank you finalx you made that very clear
2537 [17:23:44] <stratmanuk> damn, list of unmet dependencies for gnomebaker :-(
2538 [17:23:45] <FinalX> yw :)
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2541 [17:24:24] <SerajewelKS> dale6998: and it eliminates this kind of troubleshooting session :)
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2544 [17:24:40] <jelly> dale6998: additional layer? that's... not what "bridge" means :-\
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2546 [17:25:12] <jelly> "let's use L2 terminology but throw in an extra L4 firewall"
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2548 [17:26:01] <Darby_Crash> hi guys. I have a Clevo P775DM3-G and i want to install Jessie on it.Someone have a link about Clevo machines?
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2551 [17:26:50] <i11ega1Code> have a lovely night you guys, <-- greycat finalx
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2555 [17:27:15] <FinalX> dale6998: perhaps next time it'll help if you mention that it's running in virtualbox or something first ;-) then we might've found that sooner :)
2556 [17:27:27] <FinalX> glad you fixed it, though!
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2558 [17:28:08] <Darby_Crash> the laptop have a Nvidia GTX 1080 card and a desktop CPU (i7-7700K)
2559 [17:28:31] <dale6998> SerajewelKS: will do! thanks for the tip
2560 [17:28:50] <dale6998> FinalX: I sure will...I can't wait to get this off here and light this thing on fire! haha
2561 [17:28:50] <petn-randall> Darby_Crash: is that kaby lake?
2562 [17:28:58] <Darby_Crash> yes petn-randall
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2564 [17:29:27] <jelly> Darby_Crash: and only works connected to an industrial heat exchange unit?
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2566 [17:29:54] <Darby_Crash> jelly, :D it have a 330W charger
2567 [17:29:58] <tomcres> jelly freon-cooled
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2571 [17:30:52] <Darby_Crash> it is not really hot
2572 [17:31:21] <Darby_Crash> in gaming GPU have about 80°
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2574 [17:31:41] <jelly> given the rather new chipset, you might want to skip jessie and go with stretch right away
2575 [17:31:41] <Darby_Crash> CPU no more of 55°
2576 [17:31:41] <stratmanuk> Good old XFCE, XFburn installed and running flawlessly, maybe I should go back to full XFCE and leave Gnome behind...
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2578 [17:32:38] <Neobenedict> how can i run du -h but only on directories matching FLAC case insensitive
2579 [17:32:45] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash debian stable or testing
2580 [17:33:18] <Darby_Crash> Dreaman, i use always stable on my others laptop
2581 [17:33:29] <tsuyubo> hi, after i make dep-pkg, i can see file *.deb in parent dir. But next step i should is to?
2582 [17:33:37] <Darby_Crash> but this machine scare me
2583 [17:34:03] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash stable old packet for you pc laptop
2584 [17:34:03] <kingkong-> petn-randall: that debian paste site changing my pasted lines.i get screenshot better. replaced-url
2585 [17:34:15] <jelly> tsuyubo: if you want to use them, install with dpkg -i ../stuff*.deb
2586 [17:34:15] <towo`> tsuyubo, install them?
2587 [17:34:18] <greycat> Neobenedict: you mean something like: find . -type d -iname '*flac*' -exec du -h {} +
2588 [17:34:20] <tomcres> This is a guess: find foo/ -iname '*.flac' -exec du -sh '{}' +
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2590 [17:34:33] <tsuyubo> yes,
2591 [17:34:39] <jelly> tsuyubo: followed by an "apt-get -f install" if dpkg fails due to missing dependencies
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2593 [17:34:44] <Neobenedict> i need a total
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2595 [17:35:03] <tsuyubo> Is it ok?
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2597 [17:35:07] <greycat> I have no idea what you are actually asking, Neobenedict
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2600 [17:35:17] <Neobenedict> what you said, but i need a total greycat
2601 [17:35:22] <Neobenedict> yours just lists each directory and the filesize
2602 [17:35:25] <Neobenedict> which is half way there
2603 [17:35:39] <CuSn> Is there a tool for configuring the settings in the "/etc/alternatives" directory?
2604 [17:35:55] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash upgreat to stretch testing
2605 [17:36:04] <tsuyubo> jelly: There are have first come, first served?
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2607 [17:36:22] <greycat> Neobenedict: well, you're the one who asked for du -h instead of du -sh
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2609 [17:36:35] <Neobenedict> du -h usually lists a total
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2612 [17:36:51] <f31n> hi, my webserver with a wordpress got hacked, now i reverted the hack with a backup, but there is still a folder with a file, that actually don't exists in that folder if i use ls -al with sudo
2613 [17:36:59] <Darby_Crash> Dreaman, ok i start installation with Stretch but i think that the nvidia card don't work
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2615 [17:37:03] <greycat> wooledg@wooledg:~$ du -h /var/tmp 2>/dev/null | tail -n 1
2616 [17:37:03] <greycat> 154M /var/tmp
2617 [17:37:09] <greycat> Is that the "total"?
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2619 [17:37:20] <f31n> any idea how to get hold of that file i can't find?
2620 [17:37:47] <Neobenedict> 652G .
2621 [17:37:53] <Neobenedict> is the total
2622 [17:37:59] <Neobenedict> ie directory size of .
2623 [17:38:00] <jelly> f31n: how do you know it exists, what are the symptoms?
2624 [17:38:06] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash my lapto use 940 nvidia work
2625 [17:38:13] <greycat> So you ran "du -h ." and you got the total size of . as the last line, just like I got the total size of /var/tmp as my last line.
2626 [17:38:26] <Neobenedict> ye
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2629 [17:38:42] <f31n> jelly: if i access the file with my browser it shows a page with a password input field with grep i can't find the string nor the file
2630 [17:38:42] <greycat> So why not just skip all the stuff you don't want by using du -sh in the first place?
2631 [17:39:01] <Darby_Crash> Dreaman, what kind of driver i must use for Nvidia 1080 card?
2632 [17:39:12] <jelly> f31n: look at access logs of your web server for that virtual host.
2633 [17:39:14] <Dreaman> nvidia
2634 [17:39:18] <Neobenedict> greycat: true, i wasn't aware of that
2635 [17:39:20] <Dreaman> see wiki
2636 [17:39:37] <Darby_Crash> wiki don't speak about 1080 card
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2638 [17:39:46] <jelly> f31n: grep won't find intentionally obfuscated code
2639 [17:40:09] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash new driver
2640 [17:40:42] <Dreaman> my card work same driver
2641 [17:40:46] <f31n> jelly: the log file says that the file served as it should al my page provides but neither the folder nor the file on that virutal host exists!
2642 [17:40:48] <OerHeks> Darby_Crash, 367.27 and up , search nvidia + 1080 + linux gives replaced-url
2643 [17:40:50] <petn-randall> kingkong-: yes
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2645 [17:41:40] <f31n> jelly: its like domain.com/blabla/file.html -> but no blabla and no file.html is there for root ls -al
2646 [17:41:44] <Dreaman> Darby_Crash but my laptop i use ubuntu not debian
2647 [17:41:55] <Darby_Crash> thanks OerHeks :)
2648 [17:42:06] <Dreaman> pakets same
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2650 [17:42:13] <OerHeks> Darby_Crash, don't download from nvidia, use the one from your list ofcourse
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2652 [17:43:14] <Darby_Crash> OerHeks, from official repository?
2653 [17:43:20] <f31n> jelly: i also checked .htaccess, thats the file i created without any other code in it - so it can't be redirected through there ...
2654 [17:43:27] <jelly> f31n: show the actual line please
2655 [17:43:51] <jelly> f31n: which http server are you using?
2656 [17:44:04] <jelly> f31n: also, which debian release is this
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2658 [17:44:47] <jelly> f31n: if it's apache, also pastebin the output of "apache2ctl -S" as root
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2669 [17:48:21] <tsuyubo> hi, i have make deb-pkg and install headers-*.deb & *-image-*.deb ,
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2671 [17:48:48] <tsuyubo> then reboot, but grub doesn't have new kernel
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2673 [17:49:06] <OerHeks> Darby_Crash, replaced-url
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2675 [17:49:19] <jelly> tsuyubo: did you look at the sub-menu with advanced options
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2677 [17:49:37] <tsuyubo> jelly: ?
2678 [17:49:51] <jelly> tsuyubo: in grub menu
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2682 [17:51:02] <tsuyubo> jelly: no, i have installed two system: win7 and 3.16.X
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2684 [17:51:22] <tsuyubo> and have a recovery mode
2685 [17:51:45] <jelly> tsuyubo: but nothing like "Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux" ?
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2688 [17:52:09] <tsuyubo> yes,
2689 [17:52:44] <tsuyubo> Only have choice system: win7 and old kerenl 3.16
2690 [17:53:00] <tsuyubo> my new kernel version is 4.20.0-rc8
2691 [17:53:05] <Darby_Crash> OerHeks, thanks
2692 [17:53:25] <tsuyubo> No,
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2694 [17:53:32] <tsuyubo> 4.10.0-rc8
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2696 [17:53:35] <Dreaman> is 4.10
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2698 [17:53:54] <tsuyubo> Dreaman: ^^
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2700 [17:54:12] <Dreaman> System: Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.10.0-8-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
2701 [17:54:16] <greycat> ,kernels
2702 [17:54:17] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.9.2-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
2703 [17:54:27] <Dreaman> i use new
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2705 [17:54:33] <kingkong-> petn-randall: there is not crontab related output on daemon.log
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2707 [17:54:47] <greycat> This is #debian, not #ubuntu.
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2709 [17:55:01] <jelly> tsuyubo: that's weird, pastebin the output of "update-grub" as root, and "ls -la /boot/vmlinuz*"
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2712 [17:55:21] <Dreaman> mainlist debian kernels
2713 [17:55:27] <tsuyubo> There are some wrong in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
2714 [17:55:31] <Dreaman> download and install
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2716 [17:55:38] <tsuyubo> ok, wait a minute
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2740 [18:02:28] <tsuyubo> hi, ls /boot: replaced-url
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2744 [18:02:49] <tsuyubo> update-grub:replaced-url
2745 [18:03:06] <tsuyubo> grub.cfg:replaced-url
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2749 [18:05:38] <tsuyubo> i have editored the grub.cfg with copy previous menuentry and success to boot new kernel,
2750 [18:05:48] <Neobenedict> ok
2751 [18:05:57] <Neobenedict> find . -type d -iname '*flac*' -exec
2752 [18:06:03] <Neobenedict> what do i add to this to move all the found files
2753 [18:06:06] <tsuyubo> but last times fail to boot new kernel
2754 [18:06:09] <Neobenedict> directories, rather
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2756 [18:07:24] <tomcres> find . -type d -iname '*flac*' -exec mv '{}' destinationdir \;
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2759 [18:07:41] <tsuyubo> have seen?
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2763 [18:08:42] <greycat> P.S. you don't have to quote {}
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2771 [18:10:07] <jelly> tsuyubo: menu.lst is a grub-legacy (grub1) thing, which grub packages do you have installed? dpkg -l grub\* | grep '^.i'
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2774 [18:10:51] <Dreaman> tomcres extreme but uninstall old an reboot
2775 [18:10:52] <Dreaman> :)
2776 [18:11:01] <tsuyubo> jelly: ok,
2777 [18:11:02] <Dreaman> and
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2782 [18:12:06] <tsuyubo> jelly: ii grub-common 1.99-27+deb7u2 i386 GRand Unified Bootloader (common files)
2783 [18:12:09] <tsuyubo> ii grub-legacy 0.97-67 i386 GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version)
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2785 [18:12:22] <tsuyubo> i am sorry to wired it
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2790 [18:13:25] <jelly> tsuyubo: do you also see 0.97 in the grub boot menu after a reboot, or something like 2.02~ ?
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2796 [18:14:22] <jelly> well not in the menu, but above or below, where it shows grub version
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2798 [18:14:28] <tsuyubo> jelly: it is just very quickly to pass
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2802 [18:15:05] <jelly> tsuyubo: press Up or Down so it doesn't boot automatically
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2804 [18:15:24] <tsuyubo> yes, i can
2805 [18:15:40] <tsuyubo> but i can't see it that you said
2806 [18:15:53] <Dreaman> esc buton
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2808 [18:16:05] <jelly> no grub version visible anywhere? oh well, I don't remember what grub 1 looked like
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2813 [18:17:01] <f31n> jelly: may i pm you these things?
2814 [18:17:18] <towo`> apt-purge grub-legacy && apt-install grub-pc
2815 [18:17:24] <towo`> problem solved
2816 [18:17:30] <f31n> jelly: sorry for the late answer
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2819 [18:18:31] <tsuyubo> i can test it again, hope it works,
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2822 [18:19:02] <jelly> f31n: sorry, no, I only provide help for free in public. If you want help in private that others can't see, that's going to cost
2823 [18:19:12] <tsuyubo> jelly: towo` Thx!
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2826 [18:19:52] <jelly> towo`: except if it breaks in the middle possibly leaving their system unbootable :-)
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2828 [18:20:19] <towo`> chroot can fix that all
2829 [18:20:25] <jelly> (also, there are no apt-purge or apt-install commands)
2830 [18:20:46] <towo`> yes typo
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2833 [18:21:29] <f31n> jelly: okay, so i'll change all the domains
2834 [18:23:24] <jelly> f31n: sorry, I also won't help you with munged info as it's very easy to create additional errors that way, but maybe someone else will
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2838 [18:24:51] <Dreaman> stable debian with this kernel is not good idea
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2841 [18:26:50] <tsuyubo> jelly: hello, this time i see it: grub version is 1.99
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2843 [18:27:25] <tsuyubo> Are there to have help to solve it ?
2844 [18:27:35] <oskie_> if P=NP, doesn't that mean that N=1?
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2846 [18:27:48] <jelly> tsuyubo: do you also see entries for your custom kernels now?
2847 [18:28:09] <tsuyubo> jelly: no,
2848 [18:28:12] <jelly> !slap oskie_
2849 [18:28:13] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across oskie_'s face
2850 [18:28:28] <tsuyubo> just boot in old kernel
2851 [18:29:06] <Dreaman> tsuyubo stable debian with this kernel is not good idea just upgreat to stretch
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2855 [18:29:51] <tsuyubo> Dreaman: which one?
2856 [18:30:08] <jelly> tsuyubo: did at least the Advanced options menu entry appear? Pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg now, and if /boot/grub/menu.lst still exists, rename it to something else like "menu.lst.old" and rerun update-grub before pasting grub.cfg.
2857 [18:30:24] <Dreaman> 4.10 for stable debian is not good idea
2858 [18:30:31] <jelly> Dreaman: why would it not be a good idea?
2859 [18:30:31] <oskie_> :)
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2861 [18:30:45] <Dreaman> is not
2862 [18:30:50] <jelly> why?
2863 [18:31:02] <f31n> jelly: ah okay, nice politics; or ... dunno, anyway here would be the post
2864 [18:31:03] <Dreaman> meny problems
2865 [18:31:10] <jelly> I'm assuming they have a reason for running a custom kernel, like hw support.
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2867 [18:31:58] <Dreaman> jelly why i not use full hd in my pc free radeon driver
2868 [18:32:04] <Dreaman> 10 time i ask
2869 [18:32:05] <jelly> Dreaman: and you think it will be more problems than upgrading BOTH kernel and userspace?
2870 [18:32:29] <Dreaman> boot part
2871 [18:32:33] <Dreaman> my is 1 gb
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2873 [18:32:45] <Dreaman> meny kernels in
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2875 [18:33:09] <Dreaman> advanced mode
2876 [18:33:33] <Dreaman> and win 10
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2878 [18:33:45] <f31n> jelly: replaced-url
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2880 [18:33:51] <marioxcc> Hello.
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2882 [18:33:59] <Dreaman> dual boot and 3 kernels and 10 win and 2 hdd
2883 [18:34:24] <Kniaz> hi. I have debian 8.2. what is the command to upgrade it to 8.7? will the reboot required after update from 8.2 -> 8.7?
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2885 [18:34:52] <marioxcc> I use Latinamerican keyboard. How do I configure it to write in Cyrillic (specifically, Russian) alphabet?. I use Debian 8 with LXDE.
2886 [18:34:54] <tomcres> Kniaz, apt update && apt dist-upgrade && reboot
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2896 [18:39:19] <tsuyubo> jelly: my grub.cfg is replaced-url
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2901 [18:40:37] <tsuyubo> jelly: i think grub.cfg is more important than menu.lst
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2905 [18:41:37] <tsuyubo> i mean update-grub have no effect on grub.cfg
2906 [18:42:08] <Kniaz> tomcres: thanks
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2915 [18:43:27] <tsuyubo> in my grub.cfg, 5-th menuentry is copied with first, i just modify vmlinuz-xx and initrd-xx
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2939 [18:49:28] <awal1> Is it possible to limist fullscreen resolution? If my screen is, say +1300-1200, I want fullscreen uses only +1200-1100. I mean set fullscreen mode size like maximized mode, including video content (html5, mpv...)
2940 [18:49:32] <awal1> ?
2941 [18:50:04] <dTal> "fullscreen" isn't a system-wide thing?
2942 [18:50:17] <awal1> you mean?
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2945 [18:50:38] <dTal> you can turn global screen resolution down, but "fullscreen" just means an application uses the whole screen
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2947 [18:50:50] <turlutton> Reading <pastebin> from dpkg, I went to replaced-url
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2950 [18:52:24] <awal1> dTal, ok, there is my question, make apps not use the whole screen when in fullscreen mode
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2953 [18:53:57] <awal1> have a few pixels ++, +-,-+,-- always not used
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2955 [18:54:09] <dTal> maybe you could use an xnest type thing?
2956 [18:54:38] <dTal> don't know how that would work with accelerated graphics
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2958 [18:56:14] <awal1> never used xnest, so no clue but I'll check it, thanks
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2967 [19:00:53] <marioxcc> Hello. Where can I find a Russian alphabet keyboard distribution with non-letter keys similar to latinamerican (latam) keyboard distribution?.
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2976 [19:04:17] <TomTomTosch> is there a browser plugin like switchysharp or proxy switchy that lets you set different proxies for different tabs? right now i'm using different browsers for each proxy.
2977 [19:04:32] <boxrick1> In a container, there is literally no point in running NTP due to the way it shares the kernel with the host machine. Am I correct in thinking this?
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2979 [19:04:51] <greycat> boxrick1: in fact, it may be *impossible* to run NTP within the container
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2981 [19:05:13] <boxrick1> Ok I thought as much, cheers :)
2982 [19:05:20] <greycat> I don't know all the different containers, but an OpenVZ guest cannot change the system time.
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2992 [19:08:43] <marioxcc> Hello. Where can I get a keyboard layout for the Russian alphabet with non-alphabetic keys assiged as in the latinamerican keyboard layout.
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2995 [19:11:38] <SanchoPensa> how do i configure a static IP for an interface, that doesnt have a dhcp server?
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2997 [19:11:44] <SanchoPensa> i am on xfce
2998 [19:12:06] <marioxcc> SanchoPensa: Look at ifconfig
2999 [19:12:14] <marioxcc> I don't know the details, sorry.
3000 [19:12:25] <greycat> SanchoPensa: put the info in /etc/network/interfaces
3001 [19:12:35] <greycat> in theory, "man 5 interfaces" should document how
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3004 [19:13:31] <SanchoPensa> greycat: that is exactly, where I put it and ifup eth1 gives me the following error: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
3005 [19:14:06] <greycat> sounds like you don't have the correct format
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3010 [19:15:49] <greycat> SanchoPensa: replaced-url
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3021 [19:18:29] <SanchoPensa> greycat: could you repat that please?
3022 [19:18:34] <SanchoPensa> i just lost the connection...
3023 [19:18:41] <greycat> SanchoPensa: replaced-url
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3025 [19:18:54] <SanchoPensa> thanks!
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3029 [19:21:29] <SanchoPensa> greycat: this is what mine looks like:
3030 [19:21:32] <SanchoPensa> replaced-url
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3032 [19:22:13] <greycat> does eth0 also have a gateway?
3033 [19:22:46] <SanchoPensa> eth0 is not configured in there
3034 [19:22:54] <SanchoPensa> eth0 is dhcp
3035 [19:23:03] <greycat> well, there can only be one default gateway on the entire system
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3037 [19:23:47] <SanchoPensa> greycat: are you sure?? shouldnt you be able to configure on per interface?
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3039 [19:24:26] <SanchoPensa> greycat: ok, i uncommented it, still the same error
3040 [19:24:39] <qqx> SanchoPensa: The default gateway is a system setting, not per interface.
3041 [19:24:46] <SanchoPensa> isee
3042 [19:24:49] <SanchoPensa> yet still
3043 [19:24:50] <SanchoPensa> same error
3044 [19:25:10] <greycat> was eth1 defined some other way, previously? maybe you just need to reboot to clear out the old definitions
3045 [19:25:24] <greycat> or do an ifdown eth1; sleep 5; ifup eth1
3046 [19:25:25] <SanchoPensa> greycat: nope
3047 [19:25:32] <SanchoPensa> i wouldnt know, how or whre
3048 [19:25:44] <SanchoPensa> greycat same still
3049 [19:25:51] <SanchoPensa> i already did that
3050 [19:26:14] <SanchoPensa> says ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
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3056 [19:28:33] <Neobenedict> new system:
3057 [19:28:36] <Neobenedict> md4 : active raid5 sda5[0] sdd5[4] sdc5[2] sdb5[1]
3058 [19:28:37] <Neobenedict> 17126613504 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_]
3059 [19:28:37] <Neobenedict> [=>...................] recovery = 8.8% (502528384/5708871168) finish=4759.2min speed=18232K/sec
3060 [19:28:37] <Neobenedict> bitmap: 2/43 pages [8KB], 65536KB chunk
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3063 [19:28:49] <Neobenedict> what's it doing and why is it so slow
3064 [19:28:50] <Neobenedict> ?
3065 [19:29:01] <boxrick1> mdadm recovery
3066 [19:29:09] <Neobenedict> what's it recovering
3067 [19:29:35] <SanchoPensa> ok.
3068 [19:29:39] <SanchoPensa> i shall try that reboot
3069 [19:29:43] <SanchoPensa> i give in
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3071 [19:30:01] <Neobenedict> when in doubt, reboot
3072 [19:30:04] <crash_> Neobenedict: change the speed_limit?
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3074 [19:30:34] <Neobenedict> 1000
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3076 [19:30:44] <Neobenedict> is /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
3077 [19:30:56] <Neobenedict> 200000
3078 [19:30:57] <Neobenedict> is max
3079 [19:31:04] <Neobenedict> what's 200000, 200000 KB/s?
3080 [19:31:14] <Neobenedict> well it isnt because this wouldnt be going so slow
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3082 [19:31:33] <abrotman> !enter
3083 [19:31:34] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
3084 [19:32:15] <ciao> !enter
3085 [19:32:15] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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3087 [19:32:25] <Neobenedict> !enter
3088 [19:32:25] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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3093 [19:33:53] <Neobenedict> so uh
3094 [19:34:01] <Neobenedict> since it's only managed 9%, what happens if i try and write more than 9% of the drive
3095 [19:34:05] <Neobenedict> this is raid5
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3116 [19:42:41] <unborn> ,v raid
3117 [19:42:42] <judd> No package named 'raid' was found in amd64.
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3119 [19:42:50] <unborn> eh
3120 [19:42:59] <unborn> ,v raid5
3121 [19:43:00] <judd> No package named 'raid5' was found in amd64.
3122 [19:43:07] <unborn> ok
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3125 [19:44:31] <unborn> dkpg tell me about enter
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3127 [19:44:46] <unborn> crap I should pm him.. dont i
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3131 [19:45:46] <unborn> - easy..
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3141 [19:49:43] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: that depends where you write
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3144 [19:50:21] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: if you write to a sector that it hasn't recovered yet, then i believe it will write to the active drives and let the recovery process finish the write to the rebuilding drive
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3146 [19:51:15] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: if you write to a sector that's already been rebuilt, then it will either complete that write to all drives (briefly interrupting the recovery) or it will write to the two active drives and unmark that sector as written to the rebuilding drive, and the rebuilding process will catch it at the end
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3148 [19:51:51] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: in any case, it should work reasonably -- though of course you aren't guaranteed things will be consistent until the rebuild completes, but you aren't guaranteed that regardless of whether you write to the drive at this point
3149 [19:52:08] <SerajewelKS> not drive, volume
3150 [19:52:57] <SerajewelKS> the point is that RAID is supposed to "work" reasonably even in a rebuild scenario. that's kind of the whole point of mirroring/parity RAID levels when combined with hotswap: you can do maintenance like this without functional impact (though there might be performance impact).
3151 [19:53:08] <Neobenedict> this is a first install
3152 [19:53:20] <Neobenedict> so i assume it's building the array for the first time
3153 [19:53:22] <Neobenedict> with 4 6tb disks
3154 [19:53:43] <SerajewelKS> if it's RAID5 then you have 6*3 = 18TB, yes?
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3156 [19:53:59] <Neobenedict> available, yes
3157 [19:54:12] <SerajewelKS> cat /proc/mdstat
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3159 [19:54:22] <unborn> heh man that will take hell a lot of time.. I guess regards your second question.. you would be still 6tb..
3160 [19:54:23] <Neobenedict> well, a bit under that since 1000gb != 1024gb and all that
3161 [19:54:28] <SerajewelKS> what's the output?
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3163 [19:54:39] <Neobenedict> !paste
3164 [19:54:40] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
3165 [19:54:50] <Neobenedict> replaced-url
3166 [19:55:05] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: right so the only drive build rebuilt is the parity drive
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3168 [19:55:17] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: the others are assumed to be "correct" -- it's building the parity drives *from the other drives*
3169 [19:55:23] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: note "[UUU_]"
3170 [19:55:28] <Neobenedict> i thought raid 5 striped parity across all drives
3171 [19:55:33] <SerajewelKS> no
3172 [19:55:48] <Neobenedict> oh wait that ddoesnt make a difference doe sit
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3174 [19:55:51] <Neobenedict> parity fails, rebuild the parity
3175 [19:55:51] <SerajewelKS> IIRC RAID5 is N-1 data disks and 1 parity disk
3176 [19:55:58] <samae> hi!
3177 [19:55:58] <Neobenedict> another drive fails, build it from parity
3178 [19:55:59] <SerajewelKS> so you have 3 data and 1 parity
3179 [19:56:03] <SerajewelKS> exactly
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3182 [19:56:41] <SerajewelKS> so all it's doing is rebuilding the parity disk. the other three disks are active already. so you can mkfs on the md4 device (assuming you haven't already), mount it, use it like it's all done. it'll just be a tad slow.
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3184 [19:56:44] <samae> Is there a way to know the name that an interface will take knowing the version of the kernel (4.4) and its manufacturer info (Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I354 2.5 GbE Backplane)?
3185 [19:56:51] <Neobenedict> wait no
3186 [19:57:02] <Neobenedict> replaced-url
3187 [19:57:03] <CuSn> I'm trying to findout where the package priorities are stored for the/etc/alternatives system. Anyone got a hint or pointer?
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3191 [19:57:29] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: the effect on rebuilding an array is the same, regardless of whether parity is spread out or not
3192 [19:57:44] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: you have one drive that you don't know, which is being rebuilt from the other drives that you DO know
3193 [19:57:47] <Neobenedict> how do you rebuild an entire drive if the parity has to store 3 drives
3194 [19:58:02] <Neobenedict> my head hurts
3195 [19:58:11] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: because given N1, N2, N3, and P(parity)
3196 [19:58:16] <SerajewelKS> you can determine any one from the other three
3197 [19:58:32] <CuSn> check+
3198 [19:58:34] <Neobenedict> so n1 stores bits of n2 and n3
3199 [19:58:41] <SerajewelKS> no
3200 [19:58:51] <SerajewelKS> N1, N2, and N3 are separate data (striped)
3201 [19:59:00] <SerajewelKS> P is the parity / check value
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3203 [19:59:10] <SerajewelKS> which is computed from N1, N2, and N3
3204 [19:59:21] <SerajewelKS> but i you have N1, N3, and P, you can also compute N2
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3207 [19:59:44] <SerajewelKS> that's why an entire drive can die and you can rebuild it. if you know the data on N-1 drives you can rebuild the missing one.
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3209 [19:59:56] <SerajewelKS> regardless of whether it contains parity values, or data
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3212 [20:00:36] <SerajewelKS> so when initializing the array, it's basically assuming that N-1 of the disks are "good" and the last one is "bad" and it's going through the rebuild process, even though the "good" disks probably contain nothing at all
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3215 [20:01:10] <SerajewelKS> similar to in a RAID1 (mirror) setup, it will rebuild a new disk even if it's bit-for-bit identical -- it needs to be able to guarantee that, and the easiest way to guarantee it is just to rebuild it
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3220 [20:01:49] <tneper> anyone here dualboot debian and netbsd?
3221 [20:01:55] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: so at this point you should be able to mkfs on md4, mount it somewhere, use it like it's working
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3223 [20:02:17] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: RAID5 only needs N-1 disks to work in a degraded state, you just can't sustain a disk failure until the rebuild is done
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3225 [20:02:40] <SerajewelKS> !anyone
3226 [20:02:40] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
3227 [20:02:43] <tneper> i have windows and netbsd previously installed and debian was last, it picked up windows but not netbsd
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3231 [20:03:09] <tneper> SerajewelKS: sorry perhaps you can help then :)
3232 [20:03:09] <SerajewelKS> tneper: update-grub might not look for netbsd volumes. you may need to add the grub lines manually.
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3234 [20:03:41] <SerajewelKS> it has a limited set of OSes it will probe for. probably nobody wrote the probe script for netbsd. maybe you could and contribute it. ;)
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3238 [20:04:33] <tneper> ic
3239 [20:05:01] <SerajewelKS> Neobenedict: basically running RAID5 with N-1 disks gives you the same properties as a RAID0 -- you get striping and you can't sustain any disk failures. that's exactly what you are doing until the rebuild finishes. at that point you'll be able to sustain a failure of one disk.
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3282 [20:22:25] <RFleming> Greetings!
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3288 [20:26:21] <RFleming> I'm trying testing and it seems the 'upgrade' from jessie b0rked gdm3. Any ideas to fix this?
3289 [20:26:30] <RFleming> I've tried purging the config for gdm3 and reinstalling without success
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3291 [20:26:59] <RFleming> I just end up with a rapidly flashing console (for around 30 seconds), and then left on tty1
3292 [20:27:27] <siiky> how is the state of linux (and debian in special) on chromebooks? ive heard you can install linux on chromebooks but i dont know if its something "exclusive" to some models or such
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3295 [20:29:54] <siiky> and assuming i dont own one and that debian runs on it, is it worth it over buying a "normal" laptop?
3296 [20:30:29] <dTal> siiky: on x86 chromebooks, very good
3297 [20:30:58] <dTal> on ARM chromebooks, binary graphics blobs cause funny business
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3299 [20:31:13] <Neobenedict> what options are there for a webgui system monitor (graphs of network/cpu/ram over time, etc)
3300 [20:31:24] <henkla> top
3301 [20:31:27] <dTal> also you only get GLES which desktop linux is still sketchy with
3302 [20:31:30] <henkla> .. ops
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3305 [20:34:04] <siiky> dTal: you mention x86 and ARM only, what about amd64? are there any amd64 chromebooks? (im not very informed on them)
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3309 [20:35:25] <siiky> and about GLES, that only includes "fancy" WMs like KDE/Gnome with composition right? i suppose simpler WMs should work fine
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3318 [20:37:57] <ryouma> can i limit bandwidth dynamically such that firefox (interactive) gets first dibs before curl (noninteractive) does? trickle is no good for this.
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3323 [20:39:05] <abrotman> why not?
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3325 [20:39:29] <abrotman> ryouma: also, is this many curl operations, or just one?
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3329 [20:40:04] <kingkong-> is there another way of using crons else than crontab ? its not working at me.
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3331 [20:40:31] <kingkong-> no error. not restarts jobs. nothing
3332 [20:40:33] <abrotman> kingkong-: what isn't working?
3333 [20:40:40] <abrotman> kingkong-: show us the cron line
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3335 [20:41:03] <klys> /etc/init.d/cron restart
3336 [20:41:16] <abrotman> ..
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3340 [20:41:53] <kingkong-> replaced-url
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3346 [20:42:36] <kingkong-> i did service cron restart but lets try that too
3347 [20:42:49] <yalobalo> my asus rog34 set at 100mhz makes a weird crackling sound from time to time (ala. like old equipment and old wooden walls) anyone else experienced something similar?
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3360 [20:45:53] <dTal> siiky: anything that uses OpenGL won't work properly unless you use a wrapper like glshim
3361 [20:46:08] <dTal> KWin supposedly supports GLES directly though I found it unstable
3362 [20:46:39] <marioxcc> Hello. How can I get an image of the keyboard layout configured in my computer?
3363 [20:46:44] <marioxcc> I am using Debian 8 and LXDE.
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3371 [20:49:12] <tomcres> marioxcc, I notice you've been trying to get an answer for a while. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with LXDE. You may also want to try #LXDE on irc.oftc.net. I don't think the answer is going to be specific to Debian, but will probably work on any distribution with LXDE.
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3373 [20:49:46] <marioxcc> tomcres: Thanks. I have been asking different but related questions, though. :)
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3378 [20:52:56] <abrotman> marioxcc: you want the image for what? like a website image, or you want an OSK?
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3381 [20:53:36] <siiky> dTal: alright, thanks for the info! :)
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3383 [20:54:13] <marioxcc> abrotman: I want a visible image (e.g.: PNG) for how the keys are mapped in a given keyboard layout.
3384 [20:54:29] * abrotman would think google would have this?
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3386 [20:54:33] <marioxcc> I am trying to write in Russian and I need an image to know the layout because I have not memorized it.
3387 [20:54:41] <dTal> siiky: you're welcome- I bought a Samsung Chromebook expressly to use as a Linux laptop - was not as happy with it as I'd hoped
3388 [20:54:44] <marioxcc> abrotman: I searched, but the layouts do not match what I have.
3389 [20:54:53] <abrotman> marioxcc: what is the keymap you're using?
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3392 [20:56:03] <marioxcc> abrotman: Russian phonetic.
3393 [20:56:19] <tomcres> marioxcc, there's a variant of the US English keyboard called "Russian phonetic" that may be a little easier to use. It maps the Cyrillic characters to corresponding English sounds, such that s is с and r is р, etc.
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3395 [20:56:32] <abrotman> marioxcc: replaced-url
3396 [20:56:38] <siiky> dTal: do you think youd be better off with a regular laptop of the same price?
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3399 [20:57:00] <tomcres> oh sorry. Looks like you're already using it :-)
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3401 [20:57:45] <marioxcc> abrotman: It is similar to the lower one, but not the same. For example, the H key in QWERTY maps to х in Russian.
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3405 [20:58:19] <marioxcc> I mean this one: replaced-url
3406 [20:58:21] <tomcres> abrotman, I have a picture. I will imgur it for you. One sec
3407 [20:58:28] <tomcres> err.. marioxcc I mean
3408 [20:58:37] <abrotman> marioxcc: I mean, that won't mean anything to me, but "russian phonetic keyboard layout" in images.google.com gives a lot
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3410 [20:59:16] <RFleming> Figured out my issue. GDM and VBox with open-vm-tools do not play nice together. Had to install the Virtualbox guest additions.
3411 [20:59:16] <tomcres> marioxcc, replaced-url
3412 [20:59:24] <kingkong-> klys: that command didnt help too.
3413 [20:59:46] <kingkong-> abrotman: did you see my crontab screenshot ? all is fine ?
3414 [21:00:18] <kingkong-> btw i saw on my email letsencrypt cron outputs. it means crontab works for it.
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3418 [21:00:48] <dTal> siiky: it's hard to find something as thin and slick-looking as an ARM Chromebook for the price, but the battery life was disappointing for ARM (~7 hours)
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3420 [21:01:04] <kingkong-> so, i have some permission problem or another problem related to individual installations
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3422 [21:01:17] <dTal> siiky: maybe an Intel Chromebook would be better - personally I think used Thinkpads are the best value laptops
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3425 [21:01:45] <abrotman> kingkong-: I didn't see it, I'm sorry
3426 [21:01:51] <marioxcc> tomcres: It is better, but still does not not same.
3427 [21:02:22] <marioxcc> Is there a way I can display the layout from the XKB file (I'm not sure how it is called) instead of relying on a pre-made image?.
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3433 [21:03:39] <tomcres> marioxcc, that's what I just did (with MATE). I just don't know how to do it from LXDE.
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3439 [21:04:29] <marioxcc> tomcres: Ok. Could you please tell me how you did it with MATE?.
3440 [21:05:16] <tomcres> marioxcc, I went to the Keyboard preferences app, selected the Layout tab, then highlighted the Russian keymap I have installed (Russian phonetic) and then clicked on "Show…"
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3444 [21:06:24] <marioxcc> tomcres: Ok. No, LXDE (what I am using) does not have that.
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3446 [21:06:33] <kingkong-> abrotman: did you see now? i gave link replaced-url
3447 [21:06:49] <samadhi_> Hi there, i need to know if can change a key that dont work in my keyboard
3448 [21:07:08] <samadhi_> For example, change arrow to down for ctrl key
3449 [21:07:47] <abrotman> kingkong-: and which one doesn't work?
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3451 [21:09:10] <kingkong-> abrotman: Debian.botchk line on bottom line
3452 [21:09:54] <kingkong-> if i run same cron command by manually, it checks process and restarts. why its not doing it by itself ?
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3457 [21:11:43] <siiky> dTal: 7h does seem a bit low, especially for an ARM CPU... thats what i have now (thinkpad X201), but since theyre a hard to find in good shape im looking into other options in case this one dies
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3460 [21:12:02] <siiky> dTal: thanks again for your answers and experience!
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3462 [21:12:16] <SanchoPensa> ok, I just purged wicd from my computer, but when I restart my computer,m it still starts
3463 [21:12:20] <abrotman> kingkong-: I'm going to guess you need to use some full paths in the script you're calling
3464 [21:12:21] <marioxcc> tomcres: Are you using the distribution called "Russian (phonetic)"?.
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3466 [21:12:29] <abrotman> SanchoPensa: wicd-common still installed?
3467 [21:12:29] <DrBunsen> Hello, I am currently running stable, but I do want to use a package from SID, I wanted to install it through mixing unstable into my system, but when I try to install the package, I have packages that are not being updated(because stable has a higher priority), is it a good idea to upgrade those packages or maybe even move to SID itself? This is the error I get replaced-url
3468 [21:12:29] <SanchoPensa> when i try and purge it again, debina says it is not installed
3469 [21:12:45] <SanchoPensa> abrotman: exactly
3470 [21:12:48] <marioxcc> tomcres: sorry, I mean *layout}
3471 [21:13:13] <SanchoPensa> abrotman: how in the world canit be? :D
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3474 [21:13:18] <missmbob> !tell drbunsen -about dont break debian
3475 [21:13:54] <DrBunsen> hehe, I already updated electrum with the sid package because it wouldn't work with the stable version.
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3477 [21:14:20] <SanchoPensa> abrotman: don't bother, dpkg -l just revealed the clue ...:)
3478 [21:14:36] <abrotman> I know ...
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3480 [21:14:57] <SerajewelKS> DrBunsen: you can sometimes backport from sid easily enough. it depends on the source and built package dependencies though.
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3482 [21:15:32] <kingkong-> abrotman: script ? but manually running that crontab line make script as restart process. that doesnt mean script is ok ?
3483 [21:15:39] <abrotman> your $PATH may be different
3484 [21:15:57] <tomcres> marioxcc, yes
3485 [21:16:03] <DrBunsen> Very true, I actually came here to see whether I should upgrade to SID, I used to run unstable on my laptop for years without problems. I am only weary for the security updates being slower on unstable
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3487 [21:16:29] <marioxcc> tomcres: Ok. Thanks. I find it weird that it is different from the layout with the same name in my system. Are you using Debian Jessie?.
3488 [21:17:05] <tomcres> marioxcc, no I'm on stretch
3489 [21:18:01] <DrBunsen> tomcres: Do you experience any unstableness?
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3491 [21:19:06] <tomcres> DrBunsen, a couple of bugs here and there which I've reported, but no showstoppers
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3493 [21:19:28] <marioxcc> tomcres: Ok, that explains why there is a difference. Thanks. :)
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3496 [21:20:21] <SerajewelKS> DrBunsen: note that "unstable" doesn't mean "crashes", it means "changes a lot"
3497 [21:20:36] <SerajewelKS> just like "stable" doesn't mean "doesn't crash", it means "doesn't change"
3498 [21:20:44] <kingkong-> abrotman: if "echo $PATH" output is on the top of script? paths will be equal? i have this already
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3502 [21:21:55] <DrBunsen> tomcres: Thanks. I just read that stretch is frozen anyway. So that is a good sign
3503 [21:22:17] <foul_owl> Hi folks. When a new window pops up when using any application, say inkscape for example, the window pops up on my fourth monitor, not the monitor that inkscape is currently using. This is extremely annoying, since I use that fourth monitor for a tv and it's nowhere near my desk
3504 [21:22:42] <foul_owl> I have to walk back and forth between my desk and where my tv is to deal with that window o_O
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3509 [21:24:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> foul_owl, the WM is responsible for the window placement… configure it differently (open window under mouse cursor) or switch to a different one
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3512 [21:24:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> foul_owl, it's also probably pretty simple to whip up a wmctrl command that puts a certain window onto desktop one after it was created somewhere
3513 [21:24:53] <SerajewelKS> you can also use keyboard shortcuts to move the window, so you don't need to see it
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3515 [21:25:15] <kingkong-> abrotman: i have these two lines in my bot's .conf file. "lappend ::auto_path /usr/share/tcltk" and "lappend ::auto_path /usr/lib/tcltk" . these lines running when bot starts. they can change or effects on my $PATH for crontab? (i dont see any error on /var/logs/daemon.log if its log for error on crontab)
3516 [21:25:21] <foul_owl> Ah ok. I'm using fluxbox
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3518 [21:25:35] <foul_owl> Not sure how fluxbox decides where to place the window
3519 [21:25:47] <foul_owl> I know fluxbox does have the option to "remember" different window placements
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3521 [21:25:52] <abrotman> kingkong-: it runs fine when you run it directly, right?
3522 [21:25:53] <foul_owl> But this feature works about half the time
3523 [21:26:01] <SerajewelKS> foul_owl: i have a similar setup, i just physically disconnect the HDMI cable going to the remote TV when i'm not using it. problem solved.
3524 [21:26:26] <foul_owl> I don't want to disconnect the HDMI cable, that causes other issues that are not relevant here, I want to solve the original issue
3525 [21:26:30] <SerajewelKS> (i also disconnect it because there aren't enough HDMI ports on the TV to keep it connected all the time)
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3528 [21:28:18] <pflanze> Why does init=/bin/bash not work anymore?
3529 [21:28:23] <foul_owl> Ok, I'll ask in #fluxbox
3530 [21:28:34] <kingkong-> abrotman: bot running when i run it directly. even i tested that crontab line command and it checks and restarts process if its not alive. but just its not doing it by itself.
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3532 [21:28:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> foul_owl, openbox has an option "Place new windows under the mouse pointer"
3533 [21:29:26] <foul_owl> Ah, perhaps fluxbox does as well
3534 [21:29:32] <foul_owl> Since they are similar WMs IIRC
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3537 [21:29:48] <velix> Anyone with an idea, where pool/main/c/clig/clig_1.9.11.1-1_all.deb has gone?
3538 [21:29:52] <kingkong-> .profile file not effects crontab jobs ? i have exports to run process in it.
3539 [21:30:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> dunno 'bout that. never used fluxbox. it's even an option in openboxes "obconfig"
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3541 [21:30:57] <CutMeOwnThroat> kingkong-, no. Read in "man 5 configure" what variables are set and how you can set additional ones
3542 [21:31:02] <SerajewelKS> kingkong-: crontab jobs aren't run in a login shell
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3544 [21:31:16] <CutMeOwnThroat> (and what files are read)
3545 [21:31:44] <CutMeOwnThroat> kingkong-, err "man 5 crontab"
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3549 [21:31:56] <SerajewelKS> kingkong-: you could wrap your commands in crontab to be executed through a shell, like: bash --login -c '/some/other command'
3550 [21:32:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> guess that one was a semi-freudian one because I was just talking about configuring
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3552 [21:32:24] <SerajewelKS> kingkong-: the --login switch to bash makes it read $HOME/.profile (and others)
3553 [21:32:55] <DrBunsen> tomcres: do you have stretch or testing in your sources.list?
3554 [21:33:20] <tomcres> tomcres, "stretch" since my intention is to stay with stretch once it becomes stable
3555 [21:33:34] <tomcres> err... DrBunsen I mean :-)
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3557 [21:33:51] <DrBunsen> tomcres: yeah, that is what I was thinking. Write stretch so I do not hop over to testing ;)
3558 [21:34:09] <DrBunsen> so just replace testing with stretch ;)
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3560 [21:35:12] <tomcres> DrBunsen, only reason I went with stretch is because I have a specific problem with fglrx crashing with my video card and I have a game that requires either fglrx or a newer version of mesa than what jessie has. And I'm also pretty handy with troubleshooting and I know my way around reportbug. ;-)
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3562 [21:36:13] <DrBunsen> tomcres: I am not new to debian either. I ran testing on my laptop for years, but now I need multiple test packages, but it has been ages since I did this. And it is on my main pc, that's why I ask that much. To be 1000% sure.
3563 [21:36:32] <greycat> kingkong-: It would be cleaner to source your ~/.profile or whatever inside the script that crontab runs.
3564 [21:36:50] <greycat> kingkong-: don't just blindly count on "something" having read it already. Go read it explicitly.
3565 [21:37:00] <kingkong-> if i copy $PATH and export lines on top of cron script ? it will not effect to cronjob ?
3566 [21:37:03] <pflanze> Why does adding "init=/bin/bash" to the grub via "e" then ctl-x not work anymore to get a root bash upon boot?
3567 [21:37:18] <RoyK> how can I check the update history for a particular package?
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3569 [21:37:37] <tomcres> DrBunsen, I used to run aptosid for about 3 years. I never had any major problems with it. But these days I'm a little more conservative. I don't really require having the shiniest, newest stuff anymore.
3570 [21:38:15] <DrBunsen> tomcres: stability over shininess ;)
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3576 [21:43:28] <kingkong-> ok guys thanks you. i found the problem. i had $PATH on the top of cron script but not export lines. i thought .profile export lines effects it. i added export lines in script head and crontab restarted the job. thanks for your helping. :)
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3585 [21:50:02] <kingkong-> then just "source ~/.profile" line on top of cron script would be enough as it had $PATH and exports already
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3591 [21:53:56] <kingkong-> SerajewelKS: bash --login c '*/2 * * * * /home/user/Debian.botchk >/dev/null 2>&1" is right cronjob line command according to your example ? it will read .profile this way ?
3592 [21:54:16] <greycat> kingkong-: What? No.
3593 [21:54:22] <greycat> What are you DOING
3594 [21:54:50] <kingkong-> trying to understand other solutions.
3595 [21:54:50] <greycat> What language is /home/user/Debian.botchk written in?
3596 [21:55:06] <kingkong-> in crontab line ?
3597 [21:55:08] <greycat> What language is /home/user/Debian.botchk written in?
3598 [21:55:43] <greycat> It's not a trick question, really.
3599 [21:55:49] <kingkong-> it's cron script path.
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3601 [21:55:57] <greycat> I am going to scream.
3602 [21:56:06] <greycat> We will try ONE. LAST. TIME.
3603 [21:56:16] <greycat> What does head -n 1 /home/user/Debian.botchk say?
3604 [21:56:16] <kingkong-> what's wrong ?
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3608 [21:57:01] <kingkong-> i dont know it
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3610 [21:57:17] <greycat> You can't paste my command and then paste the result?
3611 [21:57:29] <kingkong-> it's crontab line i wanted to run only.
3612 [21:57:36] <greycat> Failure. DONE. Bye bye.
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3614 [21:57:50] <greycat> Nobody this thick can be helped.
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3618 [21:59:27] <kingkong-> greycat: its showing the first line of given file
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3622 [21:59:54] <TomTomTosch> i think he knows that ^^
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3624 [21:59:56] <kingkong-> #! /bin/sh
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3626 [22:00:29] <kingkong-> but i wasnt asking that
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3633 [22:02:47] <coruja> kingkong-, just as a remark, when you struggle that hard while setting up a bot (quotes sound like eggdrop), you shouldn't really run a bot
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3635 [22:03:01] <kingkong-> i was curious about SerajewelKS 's solution how to add in crontab
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3638 [22:03:43] <kingkong-> coruja: its cron job. bot is an example.
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3641 [22:04:30] <coruja> i would suggest a helloworld.sh for testing purposes then ;)
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3643 [22:05:00] <greycat> Being able to run "head -n 1 scriptname" to see the shebang of a script to see what LANGUAGE the damned thing is WRITTEN IN should not be impossible either.
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3646 [22:05:34] <greycat> I mean, seriously. All you had to do was copy and paste that command I had already written.
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3649 [22:06:12] <kingkong-> greycat: were you asking what language of script using ?
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3654 [22:06:39] <DrBunsen> tomcres: The upgrade worked, I am very pleased with the "new" UI and apps ;)
3655 [22:07:01] <pflanze> How do I best partition a disk drive programmatically?
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3657 [22:07:24] <pflanze> I.e. create fresh partition table with 2 partitions.
3658 [22:07:32] <pflanze> From a script, unattended.
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3660 [22:08:23] <tw> I prefer sfdisk or sgdisk and a here document in a script.
3661 [22:08:46] <kingkong-> greycat: i didn't understand your question then. its tcl and python languages.
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3665 [22:09:15] <tomcres> DrBunsen, glad to hear it.
3666 [22:09:42] <kingkong-> i was curious about SerajewelKS 's solution how to add in crontab. i was focused on that subject and thought you're talking about it to me.
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3669 [22:10:52] <gblmkd> anypne
3670 [22:10:55] <gblmkd> anyone*
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3672 [22:11:03] <gblmkd> how i can change the kernel hz?
3673 [22:11:04] <sim590> Anyone else suffering from max fan speed since update to linux 4.9.0-1 (4.9.6-3)?
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3675 [22:11:23] <kingkong-> my crontabs working now already. wanted to learn other solutions as SerajewelKS which can be useful to learn
3676 [22:11:27] <gblmkd> /boot/config-3.16.0-4-686-pae:CONFIG_HZ=250
3677 [22:11:33] <gblmkd> i would like to put it lower to 100hz
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3679 [22:13:19] <somiaj> gblmkd: have you checked if you can control this on a live systme, maybe with sysctl or if this is built in to the kernel and thus will require you compile your custom kernel
3680 [22:13:47] <gblmkd> how you mean
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3682 [22:15:58] <gblmkd> which kernel you recommend ?
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3684 [22:16:07] <greycat> The one you have.
3685 [22:16:13] <gblmkd> 3.16?
3686 [22:16:39] <greycat> Why do you want to change the kernel's internal tick frequency? What do you hope to achieve?
3687 [22:16:42] <gblmkd> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) i686 GNU/Linu
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3691 [22:17:00] <tomcres> you need to compile a custom kernel
3692 [22:17:01] <gblmkd> Because i wanna run gameservers and if is 100hz i can run more and the fps will be good
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3694 [22:17:25] <gblmkd> @tom you mean to download some kernel from kernel.org and to install it but just to edit config file and put there 100hz?
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3696 [22:17:29] <tw> I think you should try it first and then optimize afterward.
3697 [22:17:43] <greycat> tw: he doesn't know *how* to "try it"
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3699 [22:18:11] <tomcres> gblmkd, I would recommend doing it "the Debian way," which I personally don't know as I've never tried it on Debian
3700 [22:18:11] <gblmkd> :)
3701 [22:18:16] <greycat> He is waiting for someone to tell him what to do.
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3703 [22:18:27] <n-iCe> hi
3704 [22:19:05] <sim590> replaced-url
3705 [22:19:48] <gblmkd> to move from 3.16 to 4.9?
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3707 [22:20:50] <greycat> I don't understand the goal. How does mucking around with the internals of the Linux kernel help your (presumably heavily multi process) machine run more efficiently? Is it about reducing context switches or something?
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3710 [22:21:46] <greycat> Next, assuming that there is *some* valid reason for making this change, then you research how to make it. Maybe you can write a value to the /sys or /proc file directly. Maybe you can pass a boot parameter.
3711 [22:22:00] <greycat> If none of those work, then you learn how to recompile a kernel package.
3712 [22:22:11] <gblmkd> my goal is to set some kernel which i can use 100hz not 250hz as default.
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3714 [22:22:42] <greycat> No, that's not the goal. The goal is, as you said, "run gameservers ... run more and the fps will be good"
3715 [22:22:52] <TomTomTosch> what do you think does 100hz mean in thin context?
3716 [22:23:00] <TomTomTosch> s/thin/this
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3718 [22:23:24] <greycat> How did you come up with the idea that changing the clock tick will help you achieve the goal?
3719 [22:23:29] <gblmkd> 100hz
3720 [22:23:29] <gblmkd> dynamic ticks
3721 [22:23:29] <gblmkd> hr-timer
3722 [22:23:29] <gblmkd> no preempt
3723 [22:23:29] <gblmkd> better for more slot/server
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3725 [22:23:30] <greycat> Did you read it on a web site?
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3727 [22:23:47] <tomcres> greycat, everything you read on the internets is true!
3728 [22:24:05] <gblmkd> :)
3729 [22:24:32] <greycat> How did you come up with the idea that changing the clock tick will help you achieve the goal? Did you read it on a web site? If so, where?
3730 [22:25:44] <gblmkd> so why you care about that? if you know some situation why you not explain, offcourse there was a place where i ask about optimization for gameservers and i got answers to use 100hz only
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3734 [22:26:05] <greycat> So show us the web page. Maybe it will tell us what is going on, and how it was intended to be done.
3735 [22:26:31] <gblmkd> its forum and only question and answer no one said how to do it hehe
3736 [22:26:31] <greycat> Maybe it will be faster for me to just start random googling than trying to pry details out of you.
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3740 [22:28:52] * greycat finds replaced-url
3741 [22:29:05] <greycat> but this might be out of date. I can't find a date on it.
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3747 [22:29:49] <greycat> *IF* that page is current, which is a big huge *IF*, then it looks like you need a recompile to change the HZ vcalue. You should probably ask ##linux to be sure.
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3753 [22:32:38] <tomcres> funny thing is I've always configured my kernels with either 1000 Hz tick frequency or to be tickless. IMHO there is no benefit at all to a lower tick resolution on modern gigahertz-plus CPU systems
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3757 [22:33:27] <tomcres> the overhead for processing the extra interrupts is negligible at modern CPU speeds
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3760 [22:33:57] <tomcres> it sounds more like some ricer BS to me
3761 [22:34:26] <tw> It's probably related to cs:go, and probably "some ricer BS" is accurate.
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3768 [22:35:29] <FaTony> hi, does anyone here use Radeon R9 3xx? does it work with free drivers?
3769 [22:35:46] <towo`> yes it works
3770 [22:35:52] <tomcres> FaTony, should work with the amdgpu driver
3771 [22:35:59] <towo`> you need non-free firmware, but then, yes
3772 [22:36:17] <FaTony> oh thanks, I'm about to buy one
3773 [22:36:19] <towo`> r9 3xx does not need amdgpu
3774 [22:36:26] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Having an issue using applications that try and use gnome3's decorations. Basically these apps (nautilus, evince, firefox save dialog, etc) will not show up until I right click on their names in the "taskbar" and select "maximize", but the window will show up half off the screen, and cannot be moved. Using fluxbox as my wm.
3775 [22:36:28] <towo`> it would even run with radeon
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3778 [22:36:51] <foul_owl> Cannot be moved or resized
3779 [22:37:29] <foul_owl> Everything else like thunar, libreoffice, etc works fine
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3819 [22:58:40] <`Kevin> tomcres: depends how many interrupts/s your system gets :)
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3824 [23:00:02] <`Kevin> most systems its fine, otoh some systems with Gb NICs which do not have more advanced offloading features often seen on 10Gb then you end up potentially doing an interrupt per packet
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3834 [23:03:35] <`Kevin> possibly ending up with well over 100k-200k+ interrupts/s for instance
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3836 [23:04:12] <codfection> which debian do you guys use
3837 [23:04:18] <codfection> stable or testing or unstable?
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3839 [23:04:39] <greycat> Many of us have multiple Debian systems, and they're not all running the same release.
3840 [23:04:47] <codfection> I want pretty updated packages while not having to deal with OS configs. just wanna get work done
3841 [23:05:03] <codfection> coming from arch
3842 [23:05:06] <codfection> debian is suitable
3843 [23:05:21] <codfection> just not sure which version to choose
3844 [23:05:23] <greycat> Then you probably don't want to hear about my servers running wheezzy (oldstable) and older.
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3847 [23:05:42] <somiaj> codfection: I would suggest jessie to start with. Stretch is getting ready to release, though it is still months out. The major drawback to stretch right now is no timely security support.
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3850 [23:06:28] <somiaj> codfection: if you are okay with no timely security support, stretch does have new software avaialble and runs fairly good, there are still rc-bugs being fixed, but the major issue depend on usecase is gonig to be the security support
3851 [23:06:29] <tomcres> debian is not a bleeding-edge distribution. if you require up-to-date packages for whatever reason, you might find ubuntu or fedora more appropriate
3852 [23:06:50] <codfection> I want a distro that doesn't come in my way when I am working
3853 [23:07:00] <codfection> thats why leaving arch
3854 [23:07:02] <ErkiDerLoony> Or you may want to stay with arch.
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3858 [23:07:26] <greycat> codfection: well, try jessie (stable) and see how that goes
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3862 [23:08:03] <codfection> how do you install tools from kali in debian?
3863 [23:08:09] <codfection> repos?
3864 [23:08:12] <greycat> You don't.
3865 [23:08:14] <tomcres> you don't
3866 [23:08:36] <ErkiDerLoony> What is kali?
3867 [23:08:40] <tomcres> !kali
3868 [23:08:40] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3870 [23:09:13] <wedgie> many of those tools will be also be available in debian's repos. Install them from there.
3871 [23:09:29] <n4dir> codfection: you search with apt-cache search if they are available from the official debian repos, and many are.
3872 [23:09:39] <greycat> If you need something that's not in Debian, then just compile it like you would on any legacy Unix system.
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3874 [23:09:45] <parvis15> hello dpkg, does kali exist in french?
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3877 [23:09:56] <greycat> Ask the kali channel.
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3885 [23:11:03] <`Kevin> codfection: if you want something that just works as you noted ^ then blending different distros is the opposite approach of that (things will end broken)
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3887 [23:11:54] <n4dir> ^^ mainly that. Though there are (or have been) distros based on debian-unstable. back then sidux, now siduction and aptosid (or such)
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3889 [23:12:05] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Having an issue using applications that try and use gnome3's decorations. Basically these apps (nautilus, evince, firefox save dialog, etc) will not show up until I right click on their names in the "taskbar" and select "maximize", but the window will show up half off the screen, and cannot be moved or resized. Using fluxbox as my wm.
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3897 [23:17:22] <kingsley> foul_owl: At the risk of asking a question that may be obvious, have you searched Google's indices yet for key words like ... gnome maximize bug ?
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3902 [23:18:07] <kingsley> foul_owl: It might be interesting to try a different window manager, if it's not too much trouble.
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3906 [23:18:47] <n4dir> wild ideas: a) i would start them from a terminal-emulator and hope some useful error messages get shown b) are Recommends disabled to be installed ?
3907 [23:19:02] <tomcres> replaced-url
3908 [23:19:03] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3916 [23:22:17] <kingsley> New topic: How would you debug why the system monitor named "htop" says 65% of CPU is being used, but reports no process hogging it?
3917 [23:23:02] <kingsley> The system monitor named "GKrelim" also says about 65% of CPU is being used.
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3919 [23:23:31] <somiaj> maybe a lot of little processes are adding up to that?
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3924 [23:24:55] <kingsley> somiaj: Yeah, I suspected a lot of little processes too, but ... $ ps aux | wc -l reported only 198.
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3932 [23:29:02] <somiaj> kingsley: well 198 processes each using 0.33% of the cpu will add up to 65%
3933 [23:29:25] <somiaj> kingsley: anyways, unsure if the issue is with bad reporting or not, or maybe there is some round errors that are just adding up giving a high reading.
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3936 [23:32:28] <kingsley> somiaj: OK, I explored your reasonable guess a little further.
3937 [23:32:51] <kingsley> I added the CPU used by all processes with ...
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3939 [23:33:00] <kingsley> $ ps aux | awk '{ print $3}' | sed 1d | numsum
3940 [23:33:08] <kingsley> It's answer?
3941 [23:33:21] <kingsley> Only 27%.
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3943 [23:33:46] <somiaj> then could be some rounding issue, where the numbers are being rounded thus making a higher than normal sum. Does top have the same problem?
3944 [23:33:55] <kingsley> In comparison, htop and GKrelim say 2 CPUs are both running at ~65%.
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3949 [23:35:12] <kingsley> somiaj: You ask a reasonable question.
3950 [23:35:35] <kingsley> Unfortunately, I'm not certain how to interpret top's output.
3951 [23:36:18] <kingsley> It looks to me like top's 3rd line may have an answer.
3952 [23:36:21] <kingsley> It says...
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3954 [23:36:32] <kingsley> pu(s): 38.5 us, 40.5 sy, 1.2 ni, 19.7 id, 0.2 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
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3957 [23:36:57] <kingsley> Oops, I pasted a typo! Sorry! I meant to paste ...
3958 [23:37:03] <somiaj> I have to head out, but man top should say what those different numbers mean.
3959 [23:37:12] <kingsley> \pu(s): 38.5 us, 40.5 sy, 1.2 ni, 19.7 id, 0.2 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
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3962 [23:38:02] <ErkiDerLoony> this shows some user load (38%) and some system (kernel) load (40%)
3963 [23:38:16] <ErkiDerLoony> but it does not tell you what is causing this loads
3964 [23:38:35] <kingsley> (That's odd. My IRC client is corrupting top's output. It's supposed to start with a percent sign "%" followed by a capital "C".
3965 [23:38:39] <kingsley> )
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3969 [23:41:03] <kingsley> ErkiDerLoony: OK, that makes sense. And if I might embellish your analysis a little, nor do the top ~20 CPU using process lines reveal a CPU hog.
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3974 [23:42:47] <ErkiDerLoony> kingsley: I've seem something like that with many short lived processes that only cause load for a fraction of a second (for example many gcc processes started for some compilation).
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3976 [23:43:13] <ErkiDerLoony> They are not picked up by htop because htop only considers the PIDs of processes running at the moment it takes it's secondly snapshots.
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3981 [23:44:55] <kingsley> ErkiDerLoony: How did you discover the short lived processes?
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3983 [23:45:35] <ErkiDerLoony> You could monitor /proc/ at a much higher frequency than 1s.
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3986 [23:46:03] <ErkiDerLoony> But I just assumed since I knew that a compilation process was running and starting many gcc processes in the process. (That's a lot of process ...)
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3993 [23:51:35] <kingsley> ErkiDerLoony: Do you happen to have an opinion on whether ...
3994 [23:51:43] <kingsley> toot$ find /proc | wc -l
3995 [23:52:05] <kingsley> returning 106623 offers any insight?
3996 [23:53:17] <wedgie> that's fewer than on my not-particularly-busy system
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3998 [23:53:22] <ErkiDerLoony> No, that just shows thgat there are very many files and folders in /proc. ;) But that says nothing about the number of running processes.
3999 [23:53:49] <kingsley> wedgie & ErkiDerLoony: OK. Thanks.
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4001 [23:55:39] <ErkiDerLoony> Perhaps something like `find /proc -maxdepth 1 -regex '/proc/[0-9]*'`?
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4004 [23:56:01] <ErkiDerLoony> And watch how that output changes for small time differences.
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4010 [23:58:11] <kingsley> ErkiDerLoony: For what it's worth, I just tried ...
4011 [23:58:22] <kingsley> root$ find /proc -maxdepth 1 -regex '/proc/[0-9]*' > /tmp/find.proc.1 ; find /proc -maxdepth 1 -regex '/proc/[0-9]*' > /tmp/find.proc.2
4012 [23:58:35] <kingsley> and then diffed the outputs.
4013 [23:58:40] <kingsley> The difference?
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4015 [23:59:11] <kingsley> Only 3 lines.
4016 [23:59:56] <ErkiDerLoony> Hm, that is not much.
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