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6 [00:03:32] <mxf> so I guess my question is now, how can i specify i386 in another way? Should I use -a? (this fails with "Command line option 'a' [from -a i386] is not understood in combination with the other options.")
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10 [00:06:19] <mxf> babilen, replaced-url
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55 [00:42:35] <techno2900> Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to create a wifi hotspot and share a vpn connection on it like on windows
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57 [00:45:03] <techno2900> thank you in advance !
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87 [01:11:32] <techno2900> anybody ??
88 [01:11:39] <techno2900> Since one hour I hold.
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90 [01:11:58] <somiaj> reask your question, after an hour is enough time that new people may be present
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94 [01:13:12] <techno2900> I would like to know if it's possible to create a wifi hotspot and share a VPN connection on it
95 [01:13:20] <techno2900> like on windows
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98 [01:15:11] <techno2900> somiaj : there
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100 [01:16:41] <somiaj> techno2900: possible, yes, but unsure on any of the details.
101 [01:17:22] <techno2900> somiaj : okay
102 [01:17:45] <somiaj> I would look them up as two seperate things
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105 [01:18:10] <somiaj> techno2900: replaced-url
106 [01:18:24] <somiaj> once you get that set up, then work on setting up the route to route the hotspot through the vpn
107 [01:18:34] <teraflops> techno2900: of course it can be done, but idk if you want a detailed guide, if yes I dont think this is the place
108 [01:18:34] <somiaj> note I think you need two cards for this, but not positive.
109 [01:19:09] <techno2900> somiaj : and it is possible to share a VPN connection on it ?
110 [01:19:32] <somiaj> techno2900: that is just networking/routing, which is another thing you'll have figure out/setup
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112 [01:20:40] <techno2900> okay, I will make some researchs. I have to go. Thank you for your help :)
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228 [02:47:08] <mRCUTEO> hi how do i know where the executeable binary come from using command line: example i type root@power:~# shard and it try tries to run something but failed.. how do i know where shard are installed?
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230 [02:47:56] <whiskey9> "which shard"
231 [02:48:41] <whiskey9> "locate shard |less"
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233 [02:49:10] <mRCUTEO> okay sir
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235 [02:49:33] <mRCUTEO> thank u
236 [02:49:53] <whiskey9> Finally, if it's not in your path and locate doesn't work, "find / -name shard -executable"
237 [02:50:09] <steakwipe> hi quick question, for user access to /dev/uinput, do i need to be in the input group? googling around doesn't seem to be helping me out a lot here. apologies if it's a bad question
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239 [02:52:10] <steakwipe> most of my google results are related to python, and i'm really not sure if that's what i'm looking for. just trying to get this steam controller app (sc-controller) to play nice. worked the other day so i'm a little confused.
240 [02:52:23] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: i can't seems to fine the shard executeable command
241 [02:52:26] <Poster> steakwipe: You will want to check permissions: "ls -l /dev/uinput" and see if the group has read/write permissions, if it does, note th group name and "sudo usermod -Ggroupname youruser" ; log out and back in
242 [02:52:38] <steakwipe> that's what i was going to try, figured i'd check first
243 [02:52:40] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: is there a way to unlinked it from the command line
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245 [02:52:43] <steakwipe> thanks Poster :) will report back.
246 [02:53:41] <steakwipe> i did not want to start throwing permissions changes at /dev/ unless i was sure :P
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250 [02:54:42] <whiskey9> mRCUTEO: I wasn't clear - when you ran the command, did it say "command not found" or another error?
251 [02:55:03] <mRCUTEO> root@power:~/tools# shard
252 [02:55:04] <mRCUTEO> -bash: /root/ryzom/ryzomcore/code/ryzom/tools/scripts/linux/shard: No such file or directory
253 [02:55:14] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: something missing
254 [02:55:26] <mRCUTEO> i want do expunge the shard command
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256 [02:55:38] <mRCUTEO> so that shard command will comes out command not found
257 [02:55:53] <steakwipe> thanks Poster, it does appear that sc-controller isn't complaining now. still weird that i was already in the input group, but it seems to be less upset now. :)
258 [02:55:54] <whiskey9> Does it show up when you run "aliases"
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260 [02:56:11] <whiskey9> Err. Correction: "alias"
261 [02:56:52] <mRCUTEO> nope
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264 [02:59:10] <whiskey9> Hm. I bet a symlink to shard is in your $PATH. Run "find / -name shard -type l"
265 [02:59:28] <whiskey9> & that symlink has a missing target.
266 [03:00:10] <mRCUTEO> i try running find / -name shard -type l nothings come out
267 [03:00:21] <mRCUTEO> yes maybe symlink
268 [03:00:35] <mRCUTEO> not sure where it is stored and cant find shard
269 [03:00:58] <whiskey9> Okay, what about casting a larger net and running "find / -name shard"
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271 [03:02:52] <whiskey9> So "which shard" returned nothing?
272 [03:02:57] <mRCUTEO> yes
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274 [03:04:14] <Rusty1_> what is shard and how was it installed?
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276 [03:04:39] <whiskey9> Hm. That's strange. To my knowledge, if which doesn't return anything, but you're able to exec it without the full path it's a shell alias, & the command "alias" should have returned something.
277 [03:04:43] <mRCUTEO> its a game source code
278 [03:04:54] <mRCUTEO> i compiled and it went to some folder
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280 [03:06:11] <Rusty1_> you compiled it in userspace?
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282 [03:06:16] <Rusty1_> or as root?
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294 [03:10:39] <phorce1> might want to use -iname in those find commands just in case
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299 [03:12:08] <Guest15055> msg dpkg
300 [03:12:13] <mRCUTEO> i restart the server and its find already :)
301 [03:12:38] <mRCUTEO> *fine
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320 [03:26:40] <whiskey9> mRCUTEO - heh. Good deal. I wonder if hashall was disabled on your shell (set +h) for some reason. A hash -r might have updated the path hash. *shrug*
321 [03:27:08] <whiskey9> I always try to avoid a reboot. I hear the kernel starts rotting after a while and you have to recompile your kernel.
322 [03:27:20] <whiskey9> To reset the kernel rot counter.
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324 [03:28:03] <mRCUTEO> :)
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335 [03:32:13] <misko> hi
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337 [03:32:25] <misko> i want to report replaced-url
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339 [03:32:36] <misko> also ham, etc
340 [03:33:32] <misko> woody and up is up
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345 [03:34:43] <misko> idc because i have my masters, source codes, .deb etc on a secure storre but hey make it up
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373 [03:53:11] <Delf> Audio works with pci sound card but not with several of the different usb sound devices I've tried. replaced-url
374 [03:53:12] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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382 [03:58:14] <Delf> Severity… SiRiUS! :)
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384 [03:59:30] <cjh2201> If my laptop touchpad is no functioning on a new deb install, what command can I run if I need to find out if it's synaptic or otherwise?
385 [03:59:39] <cjh2201> Not*
386 [04:00:35] <misko> Delf: alsactl restore
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395 [04:06:57] <mo1991reg> I am using an old laptop with an AMD RS100 gpu. I'm using the built in kernel ATI module with the linux-firmware-nonfree microcode. However, I can't get any glxgears or acceleration
396 [04:07:21] <mo1991reg> anyone have any ideas? I know doing stuff like stopping modesetting at boot can do tricks with these old ass cards.
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399 [04:07:46] <mo1991reg> btw debian jessie
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401 [04:08:04] <cjh2201> Nomodeset at boot can sometimes work, yes, I'm having to set it for my laptop until I install the drivers.
402 [04:08:17] <cjh2201> It also can do weird things with your laptop as well, so be wary
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438 [04:41:56] <karstensrage> so why is resolvconf calling getpwnam with '*'
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470 [05:06:22] <random_numbers> What advantages are there to calling 'apt' rather than say... 'apt-get'?
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479 [05:14:53] <awal1> random_numbers: apt is just say another tool; seems like a mix of apt-get and apt-cache
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481 [05:15:20] <awal1> but it's work in progress
482 [05:16:09] <random_numbers> I see. I think I'll keep an eye on it but keep my current workflow.
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485 [05:18:46] <awal1> me curious about the suse zypper pkg; I must try it someday
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533 [05:50:46] <cjh2201> Can anyone recommend a good CLI/terminal pandora or internet-radio client?
534 [05:51:06] <cjh2201> I know 'pianobar' exists, but I think it's not been updated in a good while and is prone to TLS handshake errors forever.
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536 [05:53:18] <LinuxNovice> hello, which DE between Xfce and Mate is more lightweight and is suitable for old laptops.
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538 [05:53:21] <LinuxNovice> ?
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545 [05:58:16] <demonswaltz> LinuxNovice: replaced-url
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547 [05:59:14] <qman> I haven't really used mate, but I prefer lxde to xfce
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549 [05:59:23] <qman> it really boils down to preference though
550 [05:59:35] <qman> I've successfully used lxde on 128MB RAM
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553 [05:59:56] <demonswaltz> As the article I linked points out if you're comfortable with gnome 2 you'll like Mate.
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556 [06:00:30] <LinuxNovice> ok
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560 [06:01:21] <demonswaltz> How old is the laptop? There are a lot of super minimal builds out there.
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562 [06:02:57] <LinuxNovice> It is 11 years old. Runs on Intel Celeron M Single core 1.5 Ghz processor with 2 gb ram.
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564 [06:05:32] <demonswaltz> Do you have access to a machine that can run virtual box? I'd just install a handful and see what you like. A lot is preference. There's a Wikipedia article that links to all the smallest distros.
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566 [06:06:39] <LinuxNovice> Now, I don't have access to any machine to run virtual box on it.
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571 [06:08:21] <LinuxNovice> I'll try lxde also. I think, it suits my laptop more.
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574 [06:11:14] <LinuxNovice> thanks guys, for your inputs and suggestions.
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613 [06:59:46] <libertycity> Hola
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615 [07:00:34] <libertycity> Necesito ayuda, estoy tratando de ejecutar una aplicación remotamente a través de SSH
616 [07:00:56] <libertycity> pero no lo consigo
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618 [07:01:06] <buu> Go on
619 [07:01:36] <libertycity> por otro lado, también estoy tratando de conectar a una VPN que creía bien configurada... pero no entiendo en qué parte está el error
620 [07:03:38] <electricark> Anyone have a fav video editor?
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622 [07:05:26] <libertycity> Necesito ayuda, estoy tratando de ejecutar una aplicación remotamente a través de SSH
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625 [07:07:11] <buu> !debian-es
626 [07:07:11] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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638 [07:25:43] <Delf> Also, hdmi audio seems to work too. replaced-url
639 [07:25:44] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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641 [07:28:06] <mrrhq> >chromium: v55 security upgrade broke Pulseaudio support
642 [07:28:08] <mrrhq> Best browser.
643 [07:28:12] <mrrhq> Hahahaha.
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645 [07:28:30] <somiaj> don't see how 'hdmi seems to work' relates to that bug? Are you using pulse audio?
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660 [07:46:15] <martman> Dec 24 01:43:34 dns dnsmasq[837]: bad option at line 1 of /etc/dnsmasq.d/m1
661 [07:46:19] <martman> the file has just one line
662 [07:46:23] <martman> 192.168.1.48 m1
663 [07:46:29] <martman> syntax checker says its fine
664 [07:46:35] <martman> im not sure what else to try
665 [07:48:14] <awal1> ,v chromium
666 [07:48:15] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 53.0.2785.89-1~deb8u1; stretch: 53.0.2785.143-1; jessie-security: 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1; sid: 55.0.2883.75-3
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673 [07:53:26] <demo> hello, has anybody here heard about Antix Linux?
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682 [08:00:02] <awal1> demo: any question about debian?
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779 [09:15:15] <siegmarb> Hi, I'm doing monthly updates with cron and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" --force-yes -y - however sometimes i get '2016-12-23 22:15:21 status half-configured php5-fpm:amd64 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1' and i have to manually kill the process, do adpkg --configure -a and select "keep the local installed version"
780 [09:15:18] <siegmarb> howto avoid this?
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785 [09:17:06] <Hestben> siegmarb: what is the purpose of monthly automated updates? If it for security, use unattended-upgrades instead
786 [09:18:03] <Hestben> siegmarb: Otherwise, I would say it is dangerous to upgrade packages without manual intervention, in case something in the package configuration changes.
787 [09:19:08] <siegmarb> yes it's for security, what is unattended-upgrades doing diffrent than my manual command?
788 [09:19:23] <brimonk> Hestben: Were you helping me with dhcp and interfaces configuration yesterday?
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790 [09:19:33] <Hestben> siegmarb: It only takes the security upgrades
791 [09:19:44] <Hestben> brimonk: Yes, that is correct
792 [09:20:27] <siegmarb> thank you - will go for unattended-upgrades
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794 [09:22:18] <Hestben> siegmarb: Maybe you would be interested in the package "logwatch" as well. It extracts portions of the logs of the server and can mail that report to your mail address.
795 [09:22:50] <Hestben> siegmarb: Then you get a small report about logins and other stuff on the server.
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797 [09:23:55] <siegmarb> how can i check if the package php5-fpm:amd64 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1 was security update or not?
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799 [09:24:21] <Hestben> siegmarb: That, I don'
800 [09:24:25] <Hestben> t know.
801 [09:24:41] <siegmarb> according to replaced-url
802 [09:24:48] <mrrhq> Keep in mind, the upgrading process is never always going to be perfect. It's a better habit to go hands-on, and update manually every now and then.
803 [09:25:06] <mrrhq> Well, do you run a server? just curious.
804 [09:25:07] <siegmarb> so i dont see any advantage to use unattended-upgrades
805 [09:25:15] <siegmarb> sure it's a server
806 [09:25:56] <mrrhq> Looks like there's a page about it here: replaced-url
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808 [09:26:50] <brimonk> Hestben: Could you check out my configurations really quick? I've got this, replaced-url
809 [09:27:02] <siegmarb> it seems that -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" is not doing what it should
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813 [09:27:21] <siegmarb> because it keeps wating infinite for user reaction to confirm keep local version
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816 [09:29:29] <buu> 3 make: Entering directory '/var/lib/dkms/aufs/4.8+20161219/build'
817 [09:29:30] <buu> 4 config.mk:54: *** hier. Stop.
818 [09:29:32] <buu> Good errors.
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822 [09:32:01] <brimonk> Hestben: Like, I just really don't know what's going on here.
823 [09:32:03] <Hestben> brimonk: Hmm, I haven't tried using multiple subnets for one dhcp-server
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825 [09:32:18] <brimonk> I know that it works on my personal machine.
826 [09:32:25] <n4dir> siegmarb: i am not sure if apt-listchanges can help you figure out what kind of upgrade an upgrade from the past was, but you might have a look if it does
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829 [09:33:22] <Hestben> brimonk: There is somewhere, like in /etc/default/isc-dchp-server where you specify which ethernet ports to give addresses on
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831 [09:33:43] <brimonk> Hestben: oooohhh....
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833 [09:34:59] <brimonk> The real problem is that I get this: Dec 24 03:34:22 Nova-Omega-Master sh[7386]: Multiple interfaces match the same subnet: enp5s0f0 enp5s0f1 and I don't know why I get it.
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836 [09:36:05] <Hestben> brimonk: Is it a requirement to use different subnets? It would be easier to have one subnet, and a switch.
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838 [09:36:28] <Hestben> brimonk: Maybe you need more throughput than what one ethernet interface can deliver?
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840 [09:37:29] <mrrhq> Is there really a big difference between a subnet and a VLAN, or it it just more about network abstraction?
841 [09:37:31] <Hestben> brimonk: I need to run now
842 [09:37:43] <Hestben> Celebrating Christmas and stuff
843 [09:37:50] <brimonk> Darn
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845 [09:38:19] <Hestben> brimonk: I hope you can figure it out. There should be more people here that know how to setup that kind of stuff
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848 [09:38:37] <brimonk> Thanks Hestben.
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850 [09:40:21] <brimonk> Anyways, I tried to put all of the ethernet devices onto the same subnet, and the dhcp server just threw errors at me for putting them all on the same subnet.
851 [09:40:29] <siegmarb> thanks folks.
852 [09:40:31] <brimonk> That's why they're all on separate ones.
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914 [10:19:53] <jim> was there a cadence package in debian, maybe around 2013?
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918 [10:28:32] <Sabotender> I can't believe that this weather widget is finally working. This is exciting
919 [10:28:43] <Sabotender> it just makes Cinnamon look all the more beautiful with debian
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960 [11:02:42] <silver_hook> security.debian.org repositories on my install claim to be unavailable (404)
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967 [11:06:52] <at0m> ,v cadence
968 [11:06:53] <judd> No package named 'cadence' was found in amd64.
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971 [11:08:37] <at0m> there's cadence in kxstudio... a 'JACK audio toolbox'
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973 [11:09:23] <at0m> that isn't supported here, see #kxstudio
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1011 [11:38:37] <danke> the defaults for the EXTRA_GROUPS setting for adduser includes 'audio', but according to pulseaudio that's the wrong thing to do
1012 [11:38:48] <danke> replaced-url
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1016 [11:40:39] <danke> but is adduser what's used to create the users when you install a new system?
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1107 [12:56:03] <domovoy> i'm trying to setup a libvirt network (mode nat) so that dhcp is handled by my own dnsmasq (i need that in order to set some cname, which work only on names from dhcp). So i removed the <dhcp> section in <ip>, and added the dhcp-range option to my own dnsmasq. no errors in logs, but the machine doesn't get the address. my dnsmasq log says the dhcpoffer IS sent. any idea?
1108 [12:56:04] <stoned> Hydrogen doesn't put out any sound. I have tried all the sound engines in debian like alsa, jack, pulse
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1150 [13:20:48] <silver_hook> security.debian.org is now just for updates?
1151 [13:21:49] <silver_hook> I get: W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
1152 [13:22:28] <babilen> Why don't you use standard mirrors ?
1153 [13:22:49] <silver_hook> babilen: I do. But security.debian.org is also in the lists
1154 [13:23:00] <babilen> Well, remove it then
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1157 [13:23:32] <silver_hook> babilen: Also the “updates” one?
1158 [13:23:43] <babilen> (for != jessie/updates)
1159 [13:23:53] <babilen> No, I would guess that you want security updates
1160 [13:24:00] <silver_hook> done
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1162 [13:24:23] <silver_hook> BTW, I’m trying to figure out the pinning, and I’m failing at it miserably.
1163 [13:24:23] <babilen> Ah, you track testing .. not much use of that then. Track unstable also and pull in security updates as they enter unstable
1164 [13:24:48] <babilen> Which means that we should continue this discussion in #debian-next
1165 [13:24:57] <silver_hook> babilen: I’m on jessie on arm.
1166 [13:25:06] <at0m> replaced-url
1167 [13:25:24] <babilen> silver_hook: It says "testing" up there .. could you paste your (current) sources.list to replaced-url
1168 [13:25:46] <babilen> at0m: Yes, it is default
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1170 [13:25:59] <babilen> And everybody should have it
1171 [13:26:19] <silver_hook> babilen: With the testing line for security.debian.org removed, this is what it looks like: replaced-url
1172 [13:27:13] <silver_hook> And this is a `cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*`: replaced-url
1173 [13:27:22] <babilen> silver_hook: Why did you have testing in there at all?
1174 [13:27:38] <silver_hook> babilen: Hell no idea. I think it came with it on Armbian.
1175 [13:27:45] <babilen> Well, you have testing in there, so you are tracking testing not jessie
1176 [13:27:50] <silver_hook> I might have added it myself.
1177 [13:27:53] <babilen> dpkg: armbian
1178 [13:27:53] <dpkg> babilen: I give up, what is it?
1179 [13:28:04] <babilen> Doesn't really sound like Debian
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1181 [13:29:05] <silver_hook> babilen: Armbian is Debian-based distro for ARM dev boards. The kernel and u-boot are optimised and there’s a tiny bit of extras, but tries to be as stock Debian stable as possible.
1182 [13:29:28] <babilen> Wouldn't really be supported by us
1183 [13:29:43] <silver_hook> I’m trying to meddle with testing at all just because I’d like to get php7 working :/
1184 [13:29:45] <babilen> Either way, you are tracking testing and would therefore have to treat it like a testing system
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1187 [13:30:25] <babilen> Read replaced-url
1188 [13:30:44] <silver_hook> babilen: I figured as far …but I don’t actually want to track testing, I just want php7 from it and it’s not in backports yet :/
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1190 [13:31:10] <babilen> I'd strongly advise against that
1191 [13:31:23] <babilen> Either way, it'll most likely be a horrible mess
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1193 [13:31:34] <babilen> Use a distribution that ships the software versions you require
1194 [13:31:45] <stoned> :)
1195 [13:31:53] <babilen> (or target the PHP platform that ships with the distribution you picked)
1196 [13:31:59] <stoned> You can build php7 yourself.
1197 [13:32:09] <stoned> build it in /opt and tell your php scripts to use that binary instead.
1198 [13:32:10] <babilen> dpkg: based on debian
1199 [13:32:10] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
1200 [13:32:11] <silver_hook> babilen: Oh well, I guess I can do without php7 …have so far :P
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1202 [13:32:23] <stoned> It's trivial to build php.
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1204 [13:32:30] <stoned> I have done it many times
1205 [13:32:43] <stoned> I used debian stable's php mostly but for new things I compile my own in /opt
1206 [13:32:46] <silver_hook> stoned: Yeah, I know, just not sure if it’s worth doing (on an arm)
1207 [13:32:59] <stoned> For example, once I needed Gargabe Collection and reference counting from 5.3
1208 [13:33:05] <stoned> But I was on 5.1 on debian.
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1210 [13:33:15] <stoned> Oh, arm, I dunno.
1211 [13:33:17] <babilen> Maybe I have been a bit too subtle: But Armbian is *not* supported in here
1212 [13:33:18] <stoned> the worth you have to find out.
1213 [13:33:45] <stoned> Oh it's not even debian.
1214 [13:34:00] <stoned> !armbian
1215 [13:34:06] <stoned> eh.
1216 [13:34:21] <stoned> !searchkey armbian
1217 [13:34:30] <stoned> Been too long. I forgot the bot.
1218 [13:34:31] <silver_hook> babilen: Thanks for the link
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1220 [13:34:43] <silver_hook> babilen: Yes,I got this. I’ll show myself out then :P
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1222 [13:35:29] <silver_hook> Thank you for your help and sorry for the bother
1223 [13:35:36] <babilen> Good luck
1224 [13:35:38] <jamesl> dpkg: blends
1225 [13:35:38] <dpkg> A Debian Pure Blend (formerly Custom Debian Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with distributions <based on Debian>. replaced-url
1226 [13:35:40] <stoned> Helping is never a bother.
1227 [13:35:42] <stoned> Enjoy
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1247 [13:46:02] <silver_hook> stoned: I’ll probably just resort to stable php and will just wait for the speedups from php7 when it gets backported. I’m moving from Gentoo, so very much not looking forward to compiling one of the bigger packages on ARM :P
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1283 [14:12:09] <no_gravity> Hello Everybody!
1284 [14:12:41] <no_gravity> I have a remote machine mounted via sshfs and need to copy a 200mb file over. Doing so would saturate my line for a while. Is there a way to copy it slowly?
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1288 [14:16:42] <stoned> maybe use bandwidth shaping to limit ssh
1289 [14:16:44] <Anonymes> Hi
1290 [14:16:51] <stoned> or maybe QoS on router to limit ssh traffic?
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1293 [14:17:01] <stoned> Why not use rsync?
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1295 [14:17:24] <stoned> no_gravity: rsync has --bwlimit
1296 [14:17:29] <stoned> I'm unsure about sshfs
1297 [14:17:40] <stoned> I'm guessing it's fuse over scp
1298 [14:17:47] <no_gravity> well, i could rsync it to the sshfs mount.
1299 [14:17:58] <stoned> No, I mean to the remote server
1300 [14:18:10] <stoned> you want to limit bw from your machien to remote machine, yes?
1301 [14:18:14] <no_gravity> bwlimit will not work on local dirs?
1302 [14:18:29] <stoned> it works from source to destination
1303 [14:18:35] <no_gravity> yes, but since the remote machine is mounted, it looks like a local dir.
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1305 [14:18:43] <stoned> Right, but it's not saving locally
1306 [14:18:46] <stoned> It's still saving remotely.
1307 [14:18:50] <stoned> Saturte your bw
1308 [14:19:03] <no_gravity> yeah, but if bwlimit works, it would not saturate.
1309 [14:19:07] <stoned> no matter what is mounted locally, if you put somethign there it will uplaod tot he remote machine.
1310 [14:19:13] <no_gravity> sure
1311 [14:19:16] <stoned> I see what you mean
1312 [14:19:18] <stoned> Try it out
1313 [14:19:21] <no_gravity> hallelujah
1314 [14:19:23] <stoned> I am unsure
1315 [14:19:39] <stoned> I think you're saying that is it's SAVED TO THE local mount point slowly, it would upload to the remote machine slowly
1316 [14:19:41] <stoned> That's reasonable.
1317 [14:19:45] <stoned> Try it out.
1318 [14:19:46] <no_gravity> yup
1319 [14:20:04] <no_gravity> Can rsync output progress while copying a single file?
1320 [14:20:08] <stoned> Sure
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1322 [14:20:53] <no_gravity> Which param does that?
1323 [14:21:00] <stoned> Read the man, dude.
1324 [14:21:05] <stoned> man dude. dude, man.
1325 [14:21:10] <no_gravity> I thought you do the reading for me?
1326 [14:21:14] <stoned> No.
1327 [14:21:19] <stoned> G'way. G'way you. :D
1328 [14:21:21] <no_gravity> You read. I type. Shared duties man.
1329 [14:21:53] <stoned> no gravity. Apparently you live in space :D
1330 [14:22:02] <stoned> --progress or -P iirc.
1331 [14:22:08] <stoned> I dunno, I'm also in space.
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1334 [14:23:01] <no_gravity> Ok.
1335 [14:23:19] <no_gravity> Looks like there is --progress
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1345 [14:27:14] <no_gravity> seems to work: rsync --progress --bwlimit=1.5m
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1347 [14:27:49] <no_gravity> Oh, I think I don't even have 1.5m :)
1348 [14:27:55] * no_gravity tries fast.com
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1351 [14:28:05] <stoned> Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string. Try 0.25m/s
1352 [14:28:25] <stoned> fast.com?
1353 [14:28:28] <cokolwiek> hey
1354 [14:28:33] <cokolwiek> this happens when I do apt-get update:
1355 [14:28:34] <cokolwiek> replaced-url
1356 [14:28:36] <no_gravity> fast.com only shows download speed :(
1357 [14:28:37] <cokolwiek> how do I fix it?
1358 [14:28:44] <stoned> try speedtest
1359 [14:29:12] * no_gravity tries speedtest.net
1360 [14:29:36] <no_gravity> 0.5m
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1362 [14:30:55] <stoned> cokolwiek: seems like you are having apt-key issues
1363 [14:31:14] <stoned> cokolwiek: do you have debian-archive-keyring packet installed?
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1366 [14:31:35] <cokolwiek> stoned: yes!
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1372 [14:33:58] <stoned> Maybe the stretch signing key is now invalid/old/expired?
1373 [14:34:22] <stoned> sudo apt-key list | grep expired
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1376 [14:35:14] <stoned> pub 4096R/B3C01B09 2013-04-06 [expired: 2016-04-10]
1377 [14:35:22] <stoned> Interesting, for me too a key is expired.
1378 [14:35:27] <stoned> So I just requested the new one
1379 [14:35:31] <cokolwiek> stoned: lists only two expired keys from Opera Software
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1390 [14:41:38] <stoned> replaced-url
1391 [14:41:50] <cokolwiek> stoned: there doesn't seem to be any key labeled "stretch"
1392 [14:41:55] <cokolwiek> replaced-url
1393 [14:41:58] <cokolwiek> maybe this is the problem
1394 [14:41:59] <stoned> delet all keys and did File --> Update Keys, which repopulated the keyring.
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1397 [14:43:18] <stoned> replaced-url
1398 [14:43:23] <stoned> Let's see if we can figure this out
1399 [14:43:44] <stoned> replaced-url
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1401 [14:44:22] <stoned> gpg: key 55BE302B: public key "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" imported
1402 [14:44:27] <stoned> That's th eone for lenny
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1404 [14:44:42] <stoned> find the key for your distribution version and fetch it and put it into trusted keys
1405 [14:44:56] <stoned> replaced-url
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1409 [14:46:13] <stoned> Oh ffs. I'm an idiot.
1410 [14:46:19] <stoned> Stretch is the next one?
1411 [14:46:24] <stoned> I thought it was oldstable.
1412 [14:46:32] <stoned> you should go to #debian-next on OFTC
1413 [14:46:34] <stoned> My bad.
1414 [14:46:35] <cokolwiek> it's testing
1415 [14:46:44] <stoned> Please consult the correct venue.
1416 [14:46:49] <stoned> I can't help you. I only use stables.
1417 [14:46:57] <cokolwiek> OFTC is an IRC server?
1418 [14:47:01] <stoned> yessir
1419 [14:47:04] <stoned> irc.debian.org
1420 [14:47:06] <stoned> !oftc
1421 [14:47:06] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. replaced-url
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1424 [14:48:47] <cokolwiek> ok, thanks
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1426 [14:49:09] <cokolwiek> I tried to join #debian-next on FreeNode, but it is set to invite-only
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1429 [14:49:16] <cokolwiek> I didn't know it was moved to another server
1430 [14:49:21] <stoned> np
1431 [14:49:40] <stoned> in your irc client, open another server window and type /connect or /server irc.debian.org
1432 [14:49:53] <stoned> then join the #debian-next
1433 [14:49:56] <cokolwiek> yeah, I know how to connect to another server
1434 [14:49:59] <stoned> ok
1435 [14:50:05] <stoned> Good luck, dude
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1440 [14:54:25] <jamesl> !oftc move
1441 [14:54:26] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see replaced-url
1442 [14:55:33] <jamesl> >propagate through the DNS system
1443 [14:55:36] <jamesl> >DNS system
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1450 [14:59:10] <kuldeep> I have a upstream shared libary. project name is "libreplot" so i want to name binary package as "libreplot-0" instead of "libreplot0" where "0" is the INTERFACE_CURRENT. any issues?
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1512 [15:43:38] <ImUs3r> how can i uncompress zip file?
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1514 [15:44:05] <pingfloyd> with unzip
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1518 [15:44:21] <ImUs3r> upzip filname.zip?
1519 [15:44:25] <ImUs3r> ok? pingfloyd ?
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1522 [15:44:40] <pingfloyd> cd to the dir you want to unzip it in
1523 [15:45:10] <ImUs3r> i want to unzip in current directory
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1525 [15:45:38] <pingfloyd> unzip filename.zip
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1527 [15:46:11] <ImUs3r> -bash: upzip: command not found
1528 [15:46:16] <ImUs3r> what’s wrong?
1529 [15:46:23] <pingfloyd> that's your basic usage which will extract to current directory and create any subdirectories as need by the archive
1530 [15:46:31] <pingfloyd> you misspelled it
1531 [15:46:38] <pingfloyd> it's unzip not upzip
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1533 [15:48:39] <ImUs3r> thanks pingfloyd :)
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1536 [15:50:13] <pingfloyd> yw
1537 [15:50:28] <pingfloyd> how come jessie doesn't have epdfview?
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1568 [16:06:49] <LinuxNovice> hello, anybody here has heard of Antix?
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1580 [16:10:38] <jelly> !antix
1581 [16:10:38] <dpkg> antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. replaced-url
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1583 [16:11:01] <jelly> can't say I have, but someone seems to have written a factoid on it.
1584 [16:11:24] <jelly> dpkg, factinfo antix
1585 [16:11:24] <dpkg> antix -- created by gsimmons <~gsimmons@124-168-111-127.dyn.iinet.net.au> at Mon Jan 7 13:42:27 2008 (3274 days); last modified at Fri Nov 13 15:07:50 2009 by gsimmons!~gsimmons@gsimmons.org; it has been requested 91 times, last by jelly, 46s ago.
1586 [16:11:37] <jelly> 2009, possibly outdated
1587 [16:11:38] <LinuxNovice> It is based on Debian.
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1589 [16:12:14] <LinuxNovice> I tried the latest version. Seemed to me quite fast for old machines.
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1592 [16:13:52] <LinuxNovice> My question here actually is, is it better to go for lighter official version of a distro like Debian or for some customized respin like Antix.
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1600 [16:17:29] <pingfloyd> LinuxNovice: it's the applications you use that it comes down to
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1602 [16:18:01] <pingfloyd> LinuxNovice: you can just install debian base, and then use lighter software choices
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1604 [16:18:35] <LinuxNovice> ok. Leave the applications aside. Consider the OS only.
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1606 [16:19:55] <pingfloyd> it's all the same software
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1608 [16:20:24] <pingfloyd> antix isn't magically lighter. They just chose to use lighter applications by default.
1609 [16:20:26] <LinuxNovice> For a newbie to Linux, would it be better to go for a respin that is built to meet certain needs or to go for the main distro.
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1617 [16:27:28] <LinuxNovice> I wanted to know whether there is any advantage of using the main distro like Debian.
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1624 [16:30:58] <mtn> LinuxNovice: "main distro"?
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1626 [16:31:21] <LinuxNovice> I meant Debian.
1627 [16:31:55] <LinuxNovice> I am new to Linux. Couldn't find any appropriate word to describe it.
1628 [16:32:00] <mtn> LinuxNovice: lots of reasons to use debian rather than ones based on debian. stability and quality are the main ones
1629 [16:32:28] <LinuxNovice> please elaborate on that.
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1632 [16:33:00] <mtn> LinuxNovice: replaced-url
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1639 [16:38:27] <phteven> hi all, and season's greetings. i've run into a problem installing on a new comp with two graphics cards. i'm really stuck, had about five goes. M5A97 R2.0, ATI HD6570 and R9 270. this board has two full-length pcie. it's a system for iommmu. install is fine with either card (without the other inserted), and with the R9 in the first, 6570 in the second. problem i have is that with the 6570 in the first slot,
1640 [16:38:27] <phteven> all i get is a blank black screen as soon as i choose an install option
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1645 [16:40:35] <phteven> interested in any ideas. tried nomodeset, doesn't seem to make any difference. tried installing debian first with one card and then adding the r9 to the second slot. that seems to cause a hang at initial ramdrive
1646 [16:41:27] <LinuxNovice> I wanted to use Debian and completely rely upon it instead of Windows. Can I expect Debian to completely replace Windows?
1647 [16:41:50] <LinuxNovice> How can I make Windows applications run on Debian?
1648 [16:41:56] <mtn> LinuxNovice: you will need to research the types of apps you want to use
1649 [16:42:08] <mtn> LinuxNovice: also research wine
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1651 [16:42:29] <LinuxNovice> Can I install all the windows apps on wine?
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1656 [16:43:07] <LinuxNovice> Basically, I need an OS for Home and Office use.
1657 [16:43:16] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice as a heavy windows user and new debian user, you should first check the apps you use if there are alternatives in debian or generally linux, then you should consider other options like virtualbox (run the missing applications inside a box) or wine as a last option (good for games but for apps i am not sure)
1658 [16:43:37] <mtn> LinuxNovice: no, not all. do some research
1659 [16:44:03] <LinuxNovice> I don't play games at all.
1660 [16:44:14] <R0B_R0D> I cant get zsnes installed on debian jessie for the life of me... i have searched the net for all kinds of repo sites but i cant get it yet
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1662 [16:44:36] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice first make a list of what software you need and what you intend to work with. Then check one by one
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1664 [16:45:09] <phteven> my idea with this new iommu stuff is to run windows in a virtual machine
1665 [16:45:41] <R0B_R0D> replaced-url
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1668 [16:46:10] <LinuxNovice> I find many packages that I need for everyday use present in Debian repos. But, it is some applications like Tally which is an accounting software, I need to run on Debian.
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1672 [16:47:33] <LinuxNovice> Generally, I find Linux distros and Debian particularly more stable and least bothersome, as compared to Windows.
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1676 [16:48:42] <LinuxNovice> can we install individual apps in Virtualbox or we need to install Windows first?
1677 [16:49:06] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: virtualbox gives you a virtual machine, so you need an os
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1681 [16:49:15] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: you can try to run individual apps through wine
1682 [16:49:36] <LinuxNovice> ok
1683 [16:50:06] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice windows 7 is very stable and reliable, we swtiched to 10 at work and we had some really terrible problems. One thing you should consider is if you are exchanging lots of ms office documents, libreoffice is not 100% compatible (in my opinion not even 80%).
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1686 [16:50:56] <LinuxNovice> ok. Does that mean that it is better to use MS Office in wine?
1687 [16:51:24] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: i doubt wine can handle office, but you'll have to do your own research
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1690 [16:52:03] <phteven> my question was too complicated. anyone any ideas what might cause a boot to hang at initial ramdrive after adding a second graphics card?
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1692 [16:52:10] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice I personally didn't manage to make MS office to work in wine, others managed but had crashes - What I did was to run Debian with all the software I need in a virtual machine and test it for 1 week, see if you can work with it
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1699 [16:55:28] <LinuxNovice> ok. It means we need to install entire Windows OS in virtual machine and all the apps we need and see if it works.
1700 [16:55:56] <LinuxNovice> am I right?
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1705 [16:57:49] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice, I meant : before switching 100% to Debian, do a virtual machine running Debian and install all software there. Work this virtual machine for 1 week and see how it goes. I am currently on Debian and have a virtual box running Windows for applications like Office which don't work under Linux
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1711 [16:59:59] <LinuxNovice> I don't have the needed means. I have only one laptop now.
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1714 [17:01:25] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice: you don't need another computer, install virtual box and create a new virtual machine, then install in the new virtual machine debian and start using it. By this way you don't need to make any changes to your current working environment
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1716 [17:02:39] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll try that.
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1808 [18:07:29] <lawnodor> hey why does everybody trying to use debian jessie have to make a symbolic link for libSDL-gfx.so.4 to point to where .5 points just to play the free game zelda3t from its own directory
1809 [18:07:59] <lawnodor> or listen to some of the excellent music in that game
1810 [18:08:09] <jelly> probably because said game wasn't built for jessie
1811 [18:08:23] <Vizva> i did use this method for Meshmixer
1812 [18:08:27] <jelly> faking library sonames is usually not a good idea
1813 [18:08:40] <Vizva> use newer libraries but point a link to it
1814 [18:09:08] <Vizva> if you use newer libraries to point at it will be not a bad thing
1815 [18:09:21] <lawnodor> jelly well if they can port dfarc for hundreds of free musical adventures associated with the freedink engine...why should they have to make a simple symbolic link just to hear the zelda3t music or experience the free game
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1818 [18:10:55] <Vizva> some programs are built for older libraries, why dont use them with newer libraries , -- because use the program will complain about not finding needed sources
1819 [18:10:57] <lawnodor> i thought jessie was stable ...why do you have to do all these thousands of fixes just to use jessie
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1821 [18:11:55] <Vizva> is this a fix you talk about?
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1823 [18:12:17] <lawnodor> i mean if they can port the free 3d game called prboom-plus with the freedoom wad file..just for jessie why do you have to fix a link to use link
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1828 [18:12:40] <Vizva> sometimes its a private thing to use such a link
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1830 [18:12:50] <Vizva> for me its private
1831 [18:13:04] <Vizva> my choice, other may do the same
1832 [18:13:16] <lawnodor> well there is only one link of hyrule...why should he be private
1833 [18:13:39] <Vizva> i think the whole project is private parts too
1834 [18:13:50] <Vizva> if you dont trust a thing you shouldnt use it
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1836 [18:14:17] <Vizva> i cannot complain about every developer, if i dont like the program x , so i dont use it
1837 [18:14:20] <lawnodor> lawnodor i am sure a lot of jessie users want to hear the music in the great pyramid link has to explore or when he has to go backward in time to save his future
1838 [18:14:24] <Vizva> whatever my reasons are
1839 [18:14:47] <lawnodor> and the future of princess zelda
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1841 [18:15:00] <Vizva> therefore it have many distros
1842 [18:15:07] <Vizva> because of diefferent opinions
1843 [18:15:11] <Vizva> different
1844 [18:15:39] <lawnodor> Vizva...dont you think a goddess like princess zelda is worth saving?
1845 [18:15:57] <Vizva> i dont know but some believe in maybe
1846 [18:16:04] <Vizva> so its theyre choice
1847 [18:16:07] <Vizva> not mine
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1850 [18:17:22] <lawnodor> Vizva...well do you think the goddamn crooked nigger dick suckin Nazi's and Jews should be allowed to kill princess zelda or tifa or Annelise Frank or Margot Frank or Kathy Ann Hademenos...or little Marlene
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1852 [18:17:36] <Vizva> i think you should kick that person
1853 [18:17:50] <Vizva> lawnodor stop being rude
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1889 [18:38:42] <domovoy> hi
1890 [18:40:07] <domovoy> i know this is not debian-specific, but #dnsmasq is not very active. using dnsmasq, i managed to get foo.virt resolved to a dhcp-host address (using domain=virt and dhcp-host=...,foo.virt). Now, i'd like to make *.foo.virt resolve as 'CNAME foo.virt' (not A, like it would with address), any way to achieve that?
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2018 [19:47:15] <naptastic> Hi! idk if this is the best place to ask, but here goes:
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2020 [19:48:00] <naptastic> I'm setting up a PXE environment in my home network. I cloned a fresh Debian install into a directory being served by NFS. It boots great.
2021 [19:48:42] <naptastic> However, it gets to the graphical login screen and appears to hang. No input registers at all. I've not yet attempted to SSH in
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2024 [19:49:46] <naptastic> I can SSH in.
2025 [19:50:33] <naptastic> > Could not chdir to home directory /home/david: No such file or directory
2026 [19:50:36] <naptastic> wonder if that's the problem
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2029 [19:51:22] <fkmybrain_> hi
2030 [19:51:37] <naptastic> howdy
2031 [19:51:40] <fkmybrain_> someone on kali
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2042 [19:54:10] <fkmybrain_> can someone tell me a nice channel
2043 [19:54:12] <fkmybrain_> to join
2044 [19:54:18] * naptastic blinks
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2050 [19:55:33] <somiaj> !kali
2051 [19:55:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2052 [19:55:44] <somiaj> fkmybrain_: kali linux has a channel on freenode.net
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2068 [20:05:30] <vkolchev> Hi everyone, have problems watching youtube videos on freshly installed jessie. Video starts as if there is quickplay or fast forward and only clicks instead of sound. After some time it goes back to normal. Every video starts like this. Could anyone please help me fix it?
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2072 [20:06:56] <Anselmo> what browser?
2073 [20:07:09] <vkolchev> chromium. and it seems like alsa plugin is glitching
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2075 [20:07:31] <Anselmo> do you have sound elsewhere ?
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2077 [20:07:57] <vkolchev> Anselmo, yes, it works everywhere else, in system and when try to play any video/audio from hdd
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2079 [20:08:32] <vkolchev> Anselmo, when I go to sound preferences, to Apps tab when video is playing
2080 [20:08:45] <Anselmo> my knowledge of chromium is unfortunatley very limited
2081 [20:08:46] <vkolchev> It quickly switches from alsa -plugin ot none
2082 [20:08:57] <Anselmo> hunh
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2084 [20:10:56] <Anselmo> you could try doing it with pulse, that has sometimes worked for me with some programs
2085 [20:11:21] <Anselmo> but as far as a solution inside of chromium itself hopefuly another person can chime in
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2106 [20:20:53] <vkolchev> Anselmo, thank you for your answer
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2111 [20:22:28] <vkolchev> The issue is only with chromium. Firefox ESR works ok
2112 [20:22:40] <vkolchev> Seems like I can try chrome instead of chromium
2113 [20:23:05] <Anselmo> hmm ok
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2126 [20:30:44] <Pr0metheus> Are web server and database packages preconfigured to be secure?
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2128 [20:32:16] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: secure yes, but not hardened. And security.debian.org does a good job fixing known exploits.
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2136 [20:35:05] <Pr0metheus> any suggestions on what web server to run for php webpages along with a postgre database?
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2141 [20:35:47] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: ngnix seems to be fairly popular these days. I like apache, but I'm use to it and it is more feature rich.
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2143 [20:36:10] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: I'm also just a hobbiest, so don't deal with much stuff in production.
2144 [20:36:31] <Pr0metheus> somiaj which would you consider more secure ? I am on IIS and want to move everything from windows to linux
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2146 [20:37:54] <Pr0metheus> but there is not enough time atm to delve deep into it
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2148 [20:38:09] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: I would say they are on par for that. It is more ngnix is a bit smaller of a foot print and can be faster
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2151 [20:39:15] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: but apahce is very standard and has more features that you may need that you cannot find in ngnix. In terms of security, one isn't better than the other. And Debian supports both so known security holes get fixed, so just ensure you have security sources and update regurally. Also might want to subscribe to the DSA
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2153 [20:39:36] <Pr0metheus> what is the DSA?
2154 [20:39:47] <Pr0metheus> debian securit announcements?
2155 [20:39:49] <somiaj> Debain security anoucnemnts, a mailing list,
2156 [20:39:50] <somiaj> !dsa
2157 [20:39:50] <dpkg> [dsa] Debian Security Announcement, see replaced-url
2158 [20:40:09] <somiaj> this lets you know when packages are avilable and you should ugprade
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2161 [20:41:17] <Pr0metheus> i currently use debian with unstable, in stable mode is it possible to do an inplace upgrade to the next stable version when available?
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2174 [20:45:00] <Pr0metheus> Pr0metheus; the answer is yes :)
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2189 [20:53:43] <exa_ways> hello. I am new to linux and just installed debian. I am having trouble to setup wifi as the firmware is missing. I tried to follow the instructions in debian wiki. My Network controller identified as BCM43224. Not sure how to proceed...
2190 [20:53:58] <somiaj> !bcm43
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2192 [20:54:30] <somiaj> exa_ways: replaced-url
2193 [20:54:58] <hassoon> ?
2194 [20:55:42] <Devastator> is dpkg on vacation? heheh
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2201 [20:59:04] <somiaj> Devastator: na, I probably got the factoid wrong
2202 [20:59:04] <exa_ways> no i guess my brain is on vacation as i have a hard time understanding it hehe
2203 [20:59:10] <somiaj> !wl
2204 [20:59:10] <dpkg> Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the Broadcom BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225, BCM43227, BCM43228, BCM43142, BCM4331, BCM4352 and BCM4360 chips. To install (amd64 and i386 only), see replaced-url
2205 [20:59:53] <somiaj> exa_ways: do you have an internet connection (say wired) you can use?
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2207 [21:00:36] <exa_ways> nope i use bluetooth hotspot right now
2208 [21:01:09] <somiaj> exa_ways: replaced-url
2209 [21:01:30] <somiaj> exa_ways: in that case you only need to install the firmware package firmware-brcm80211 from non-free and don't need to compile the wl driver
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2211 [21:02:36] <awal1> exa_ways: also there is an unofficial debian image containing non-free stuff; should do the job for you; an easy way you may consider. check the following dpkg instructions
2212 [21:02:45] <awal1> !firmware
2213 [21:02:45] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. replaced-url
2214 [21:02:58] <awal1> no, the following :P
2215 [21:03:26] <awal1> !firmware installer
2216 [21:03:27] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
2217 [21:03:57] <awal1> :D sorry, I forgot the exact factoid
2218 [21:04:35] <Kurogane> Hi, how i can create a user only see own directoy? for example, i create /home/user/sftp/ but the user can see / and /home/user, how i can only show /home/user/sftp/ without chrooted there is another way
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2220 [21:05:05] <awal1> dpkg: tell exa_ways about firmware images
2221 [21:05:20] <awal1> exa_ways: check dpkg private msg
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2227 [21:12:08] <n4dir> Kurogane: my guess would be the only way was to remove read-write-exe permission for "others" from /home/user ;
2228 [21:12:29] <n4dir> not being restrictive about what user-sftp can or can not do.
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2230 [21:18:11] <hello_> ADMIN
2231 [21:18:26] <hello_> oops
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2251 [21:32:27] <exa_ways> thank you all. a lot of information to understand. I did bookmark everything and try to figure out now. have to restart however for some changes to take place. will be back for further questions. ) thx
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2262 [21:36:06] <mimi89999> Hello
2263 [21:36:18] <mimi89999> I am trying to connect to my wifi network.
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2265 [21:36:24] <mimi89999> The problem:
2266 [21:36:27] <mimi89999> Dec 24 21:34:16 debian kernel: [468172.573020] wlxc4e984dd5243: authenticated
2267 [21:36:28] <mimi89999> Dec 24 21:34:21 debian kernel: [468177.574930] wlxc4e984dd5243: aborting authentication with bc:ee:7b:f4:42:18 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
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2287 [21:45:18] <pipy> hey guys i'm using a raspberry pi 3, can i ask here for help about how to dual-boot and stuff?
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2289 [21:45:52] <firztspawn> mimi89999, google is your friend :) Try searching for: Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING and you will find a few things to try
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2295 [21:49:53] <Mink> How to install a package which is not in the default version of debian? also how can I see a the list of possible versions of a package that are available for install
2296 [21:49:54] <Mink> ?
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2300 [21:51:13] <mimi89999> Mink: apt-cache policy packagename
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2302 [21:52:02] <hexnewbie> Mink: Where is the package (from) then? And: «apt-cache policy package» or here «/msg judd package»
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2305 [21:52:20] <hexnewbie> Mink: Er, I mean: /msg judd v package
2306 [21:52:33] <n4dir> Mink: as long you have to ask, the answer is simple: You don't.
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2311 [21:54:17] <Sabotender> see another great thing about debian, and it might have something to do with the 4.8 kernel, but I am not having video playback issues
2312 [21:54:19] <Ma_> Hi guys, could you pls tell me which ubuntu installer you would suggest? rufus doesn't work
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2314 [21:54:39] <Sabotender> no more freezing, unresponsive mouse pointer
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2322 [21:58:33] <Chloe> what is +l?
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2326 [21:59:33] <n4dir> looks like a plus sign and a lower l to me.
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2328 [22:00:20] <Sabotender> huh? that depends on how it is used.
2329 [22:00:42] <Sabotender> if someone +1 your comment, its usually a reference to Reddit or similar where people really agree with you
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2331 [22:00:45] <awal1> Mink: if for pkg versions available in stable branch apt-cache policy pkgname or aptitude versions pkgname; if for all branches (stable, testing, unstable) use rmadison pkgname (after installing devscripts pkg, which includes much more interesting tools)
2332 [22:00:58] <Sabotender> it's like someone saying, 'I Second that!'
2333 [22:01:03] <Devastator> Ma_ this is debian, if you want ubuntu support go to #ubuntu
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2335 [22:01:13] <Mink> Thanks :)
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2344 [22:05:12] <awal1> Anyone use openbox+tint2+virtualbox?
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2346 [22:05:48] <karabaja4> I have a VM with that setup
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2348 [22:06:12] <karabaja4> on debian
2349 [22:07:16] <awal1> karabaja4: I have a weird issue just under openbox with virtualbox window and guest windows moving "alone" if autohide is enabled for tint2.
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2351 [22:07:44] <awal1> but you'll have to install virtualbox in your guest for reproduce
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2354 [22:08:38] <awal1> karabaja4: check here what's my issue replaced-url
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2356 [22:08:59] <awal1> I grabed what happens in my debian VM
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2358 [22:09:23] <awal1> well, that issue is also present in my real system
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2360 [22:09:41] <karabaja4> awal1: heh that's really weird. I don't have tint2 on host so I can't try but looks like a tint2 issue
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2366 [22:10:23] <awal1> karabaja4: I meant you need openbox+virtualbox+tint2 in the VM; then you can reproduce
2367 [22:10:43] <awal1> if you won't/can't , no problem :)
2368 [22:10:49] <karabaja4> awal1: give me a sec
2369 [22:11:01] <karabaja4> awal1: ill install vbox
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2372 [22:11:38] <awal1> and yes it's tint2 bug, but the problem only exists under openbox and only affects virtualbox
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2374 [22:11:51] <awal1> weird issue so
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2376 [22:12:48] <awal1> I mean it doesn't happen under fluxbox, fvwm, icewm and other wm; and other apps are not affected
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2393 [22:19:23] <allizom> Hi, I have an old Wheezy install I correctly booted on a laptop. When the laptop ceased to work I pulled the hard drive out and stored it. I'm now trying to boot the drive from a usb docking station. I can boot to grub, but when it continues booting I am presented with a message like "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxx does not exist. Dropping to a shell"
2394 [22:20:34] <allizom> I checked the UUID by pressing e in the grub prompt and I'm now booted into a live environment, I see that the partition mounted at / (that contains /boot) has the right UUID
2395 [22:20:49] <karabaja4> awal1: replaced-url
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2397 [22:21:04] <karabaja4> awal1: it works, fullscreen isn't affected either
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2400 [22:21:52] <somiaj> allizom: you might not have the usb drivers in the initrd image so it is not available during that stage of the boot
2401 [22:22:11] <awal1> karabaja4: ok, thank you for trying, really thanks. but, please, which tint2 version you have?
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2403 [22:23:02] <karabaja4> awal1: tint2/stable,now 0.11+svn20121014-3 amd64 [installed]
2404 [22:23:04] <allizom> somiaj: hmm, interesting, what should I then do? I haven't a IDE equipped computer anymore, so I have to use this usb docking station
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2409 [22:25:20] <allizom> I'm currently searching about this
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2412 [22:26:08] <awal1> karabaja4: ok, me I have version 0.12.12-1. so only version from testing/unstable is buggy. I already reported a bug about that issue; I wanted to confirm, since noby have that combination openbox-virtualbox-tint2 in #debian-next. thank for trying and for your time :)
2413 [22:26:28] <karabaja4> awal1: you're welcome :)
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2415 [22:26:54] <awal1> I'll have to elaborate a more detailed new bug :)
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2421 [22:30:33] <SamSagaZ> guys i have php5 and php7 in the same server, and after install php7 the cli was changed to version 7, can i change it again to version 5?
2422 [22:30:41] <SamSagaZ> cant find the way to do it
2423 [22:30:51] <SamSagaZ> using alias works but i want to use another way
2424 [22:30:54] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: most likely this is the $PATH and /usr/local being before /usr
2425 [22:31:11] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: you can also just use a full path, /usr/bin/php
2426 [22:31:21] <dixie7z> hey guys. i think pretty simple question for you. when i install some software with apt-get it gets dependencies but when i remove that package dependencies are left for autoremove? but. i think not all dependencies are removed. am i correct? wont it bloat the sistem after a while?
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2428 [22:31:51] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: another way is you if /usr/bin/php is a link managed by update-alternatives, you could use the alternative system and move/modify the /usr/local/bin/php file installed by php7
2429 [22:32:26] <somiaj> dixie7z: it isn't perfect and there are tools to clean things up, but for the most part it should remove all packages
2430 [22:32:27] <n4dir> not really. imho, of course. apt-get remove --purge (or i think a simple apt-get purge works too) can help with that too, i think. have a quick look at the manpage of apt-get
2431 [22:32:53] <somiaj> dixie7z: though if you happen to install a package that is also recommended by another package you have installed apt won't think you want it removed since it is recomended by another package (but installed by your recent install)
2432 [22:32:54] <n4dir> there is also deborphan, but that can remove quite a bit, if you are not cautious.
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2434 [22:33:13] <SamSagaZ> somiaj, oh
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2436 [22:33:35] <SamSagaZ> will search abt update-alternatives
2437 [22:33:37] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: but type which php (this finds teh one you get from $PATH)
2438 [22:33:51] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: that won't work if you have a /usr/local/bin/php though, you'll have to deal with that manually
2439 [22:34:04] <dixie7z> thanks guys :)
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2441 [22:34:22] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php
2442 [22:34:34] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php --version show me the 7 one
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2444 [22:35:11] <n4dir> perhaps it is linked to vervion 7 ? try ls -l /usr/bin/php*
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2446 [22:35:37] <n4dir> seem to recall that is the case for perl and python (linked to )
2447 [22:35:44] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php -> /etc/alternatives/php
2448 [22:35:44] <SamSagaZ> :)
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2454 [22:36:05] <SamSagaZ> looks like its using alternatives
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2456 [22:36:10] <SamSagaZ> like somiaj say
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2458 [22:36:19] <n4dir> sounds like update-alternatives is it, like somiaj said ... :-)
2459 [22:36:33] * n4dir always too slow ...
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2465 [22:38:09] <SamSagaZ> sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/php" "php" "/usr/bin/php5" 1
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2469 [22:38:38] <SamSagaZ> i need to logout/login to get it working? :/
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2475 [22:40:36] <SamSagaZ> i did it!
2476 [22:40:42] <SamSagaZ> thanks somiaj
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2482 [22:42:08] <SamSagaZ> now gets running php 5.6 php7.0 and php7.1 in the same server!
2483 [22:42:11] <SamSagaZ> :)
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2504 [22:48:56] <allizom> somiaj: how would I add the driver if I can't boot the system?
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2518 [22:55:29] <somiaj> allizom: you might have to use a live system and chroot into it and rebuild the initrd image
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2521 [22:56:00] <wevwe> hello there, I am getting the error "initramfs) unable to find a live system" when I try to boot. and I tinkered with bios following some solution advice online. but it didnt solve. I used pendrive as windows-to-linux installer for dual boot.
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2523 [22:56:52] <allizom> I guess I will have to find the disk I used then to install
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