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0 [00:00:23] <teraflops> eipi10: dont mess with initramfs if you dont know what are you doing since youll end dropped to an emergency shell
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2 [00:00:56] <mxbd> Hello, I am using a program installed to /usr/local/bin and I have put it in crontab, how do I know if crontab has that in it's path?
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4 [00:01:11] <mxbd> does it assume root's path
5 [00:01:12] <julius> missmbob, reconfigure locales makes it permanent?
6 [00:01:16] <teraflops> eipi10: but systemd-analyze, systemd-analyze blame and systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg are a good start
7 [00:01:21] <eipi10> yeah, I wasn't :) I just masked the b.s. in systemd..
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9 [00:01:43] <eipi10> yep, thats what I did. thanks again. gonna reboot. appreciate it!
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11 [00:02:10] <julius> ive got two debian systems installed, one stable and one testing. grub keeps adding the second one with the wrong root= parameter to its config....is there a way to make grub recognize the right root parameter?
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16 [00:03:33] <AvatarA> julius, are you using UUIDS?
17 [00:03:47] <AvatarA> what does the wrong root= look like?
18 [00:03:51] <julius> AvatarA, anything was auto detected by grub
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21 [00:04:20] <julius> AvatarA, linux /vmlinuz-4.8.0-1-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-root ro quiet
22 [00:04:39] <julius> AvatarA, correct would be: linux /vmlinuz-4.8.0-1-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-ubuntu15.04 ro quiet
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24 [00:05:15] <teraflops> oh wait he's using plymouth and wanted to speedup the boot? that's easy … remove plymouth
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28 [00:06:03] <AvatarA> using LVM julius?
29 [00:06:06] <julius> yes
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35 [00:06:56] <AvatarA> hmm, never used it don't know exactly how you name stuff there and how it gets picked up
36 [00:07:09] <julius> ah ok
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38 [00:07:17] <julius> yes it makes things a bit more complicated
39 [00:07:21] <AvatarA> maybe you configured it with one name in stable and another in testing and one overwrites the other
40 [00:07:32] <julius> "it" ?
41 [00:07:43] <AvatarA> the volume
42 [00:08:19] <julius> the lvm names are different...no way to confuse them for me
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44 [00:08:32] <julius> anyway, lets test boot the testing system
45 [00:08:34] <julius> thanks
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48 [00:08:51] <AvatarA> I would keep grub installed on only one of them
49 [00:09:07] <julius> i do
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52 [00:09:33] <julius> reboot..brbr
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175 [01:25:31] <julius_> re
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181 [01:26:44] <julius_> i followed replaced-url
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202 [01:34:55] <moshisushi> hello there! it looks like FAAC support is missing from gstreamer-plugins-bad.. libgstfaac.so that is
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204 [01:35:20] <moshisushi> my system: $ cat /etc/debian_version
205 [01:35:20] <moshisushi> stretch/sid
206 [01:35:27] <moshisushi> $ uname -a
207 [01:35:27] <moshisushi> Linux holodisc 4.5.1-std-1 #1 SMP Mon Apr 18 19:58:58 UTC 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
208 [01:35:41] <moshisushi> accoring to this page, faac should be part of plugins-bad: replaced-url
209 [01:36:02] <moshisushi> any ideas where it's gone?
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215 [01:38:55] <missmbob> ,i libfaac0
216 [01:38:56] <judd> Package libfaac0 (non-free/libs, optional) in jessie/amd64: AAC audio encoder (library). Version: 1.28-6; Size: 35.2k; Installed: 110k; Homepage: replaced-url
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219 [01:39:20] <missmbob> that library package has encode and decode for faac
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223 [01:40:19] <missmbob> i dont know anything about gstreamer though
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228 [01:41:32] <moshisushi> libfaac exists but the gstreamer plugin doesn't
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269 [01:49:26] <Wulf> Hi
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274 [01:49:44] <Wulf> How can I display all packages that exist in a specific repo and are installed?
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292 [01:51:03] <somiaj> Wulf: look at aptitude search, it can do that.
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294 [01:51:26] <unborn> im getting spammed with pms.. is there any way to block it?
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296 [01:51:32] <somiaj> Wulf: replaced-url
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300 [01:51:37] <Wulf> unborn: /mode unborn +R
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304 [01:51:50] <unborn> FRUMVI@mm-136-205-123-178.gomel.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by I mean anything from byfly.by
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307 [01:51:57] <fuddie> help
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309 [01:52:07] <awal1> unborn: try /mode unborn +g
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311 [01:52:08] <fuddie> whoops meant to type "/help" sry
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319 [01:53:18] <kriger> is it +R or +g ?
320 [01:53:23] <kriger> I need that too
321 [01:53:27] <qman__> same, I just looked it up, I used +R
322 [01:53:30] <kriger> ty
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325 [01:53:37] <qman__> I think +g will do the same, not sure on what the difference is
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328 [01:53:50] <awal1> people have suggested + g and works fine for me
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331 [01:53:59] <awal1> +g
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340 [01:55:27] <rklopfer> audio is not working on my laptop. i.e. when i echo \7 i hear nothing
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343 [01:55:39] <rklopfer> anyone have any immediate ideas?
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346 [01:56:02] <rklopfer> also, soundcloud, etc
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363 [01:57:48] <rklopfer> also, speaker-test
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366 [01:57:53] <Wulf> somiaj: can't get it to do what I want. Most promising appears to be ?archive(...) but I don't know the name of my archive
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387 [02:04:32] <somiaj> Wulf: replaced-url
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390 [02:04:56] <somiaj> Wulf: you can look at the actual cache files to get an idea wha torigin would be
391 [02:05:02] <somiaj> for example offical debian packages have origin 'debian'
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407 [02:12:40] <winsen> hi all
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409 [02:13:05] <monsune> [02:11:08] <jrwr> A botnet is PM spamming freenode users. Consider setting user mode +R, which will block PMs from unidentified users (/mode yournickhere +R, or /umode +R)
410 [02:13:12] <monsune> hope you find it useful
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413 [02:14:11] <winsen> It seems that I installed the minimal installation of debian. does anyone know whether it's possible to install GUI from another cd...or?
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417 [02:14:26] <Spiffy> Can't figure out, what anyone is getting out of spamming everyone like that... Seriously, how sad and pathetic do you have to be, to get your kicks from spamming everyone?
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419 [02:14:42] <winsen> I am not using ethernet connexion, gnome desktop
420 [02:14:49] <somiaj> winsen: sure, you can use apt-cdrom to scan a cd source, though using the internet is usually prefered, is this machine not connected to the network?
421 [02:15:55] <winsen> somiaj: yes but I can not use cable
422 [02:16:02] <winsen> only wifi
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428 [02:18:49] <unborn> +R worked Thanks
429 [02:19:33] <somiaj> winsen: you could just manually copy over the firmware .deb you need to get your wifi to work, then install the rest of your software
430 [02:19:38] <somiaj> winsen: what wifi card do you have?
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435 [02:22:34] <winsen> somiaj: how can I do it?
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437 [02:24:48] <somiaj> winsen: lspci, figure out what chpiset you have and I'll point you to the firmawre
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439 [02:25:28] <winsen> somiaj: I wonder if it's possible to install desktop environnement from cd or not?
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441 [02:27:48] <somiaj> winsen: I already said yes to that and pointed you at apt-cdrom, I was just saying that it might be easier to just get your wifi working
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443 [02:30:31] <bazhang> somiaj, is apt-cdrom something like aptoncd?
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447 [02:31:40] <bazhang> although aptonusb might be a better renaming of it at this point
448 [02:31:45] <somiaj> bazhang: apt-cdrom just manages cdrom sources, it can be used to scan a debian cdrom and add it to sources.list
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450 [02:32:20] <bazhang> then quite a bit different, thanks somiaj
451 [02:32:34] <somiaj> bazhang: it is part of the apt package and is what is used when insatlling from a cdrom to use the cdrom sources.
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453 [02:35:28] <sussudio> why isn't +R working?
454 [02:35:48] <sussudio> Aprakev is still spamming me and the nick isn't registered.
455 [02:36:06] <missmbob> use -g until this dumbassery is over
456 [02:36:16] <bazhang> plus g
457 [02:36:38] <missmbob> yes, thank you
458 [02:37:01] <sussudio> blah.
459 [02:37:24] <winsen> somiaj: are there any tutorial for your suggestion?
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463 [02:39:50] <winsen> somiaj: "lspci, figure out what chpiset you have and I'll point you to the firmawre" you can't because I am using the same machine, unless It's possible to do that under live cd?
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466 [02:40:18] <somiaj> winsen: lspci will work on a livecd, you can also get the chipset from windows if needed
467 [02:40:24] <somiaj> winsen: man apt-cdrom for info on how to use that
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474 [02:42:33] <awal1> Wulf: grep -l PKG /var/lib/apt/lists* for list your repos. then choose the repo you want. run grep Package /var/lib/apt/lists/your-repo-here | less should list all the available pkgs in that repo
475 [02:43:08] <awal1> but I dont know right now how to limit the search for only installed
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479 [02:44:12] <awal1> you/someone may find how to combine it with aptitude/apt-cache
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481 [02:45:52] <themill> grep-dctrl
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485 [02:48:33] <winsen> somiaj: I wonder if I can add module desktop environnement as I can add grub..etc from the debian live cd? is that possible?
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487 [02:49:12] <bazhang> did you read the man for that as instructed yet winsen
488 [02:50:01] <bazhang> you did fully read the documentation, right winsen ?
489 [02:50:03] <n4dir> if you mean install software from a chroot (say a DE), then yes, sure you can do that. winsen
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513 [02:54:50] <dvs> so much for that idea
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552 [03:22:15] <SQL> Anyone else getting strange PM's in this channel?
553 [03:22:19] <aedinius> yes
554 [03:22:21] <aedinius> see the topic
555 [03:22:24] <SQL> OH
556 [03:22:25] <SQL> thanks
557 [03:22:25] <dvs> aww
558 [03:22:31] <dvs> !topicsmite aedinius
559 [03:22:31] <dpkg> And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon aedinius. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified.
560 [03:22:56] <nicehsz> it will not attempt reexploit clients and push payload once already compromised, possibly also if failing to detect vuln repeatedly but is some coordination issue between nodes.
561 [03:22:58] <aedinius> dvs: ?
562 [03:23:16] <aedinius> I get smited by the topic for referring people to the topic?
563 [03:23:22] <aedinius> What kind of justice is this?!
564 [03:23:48] <dvs> real justice! ;-)
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747 [05:27:44] <foul_owl> Hi folks, not sure why but when my resolv.conf is empty on boot up. I usually just add: "nameserver 8.8.8.8" and call it good, but how do I fix this permanently?
748 [05:27:55] <foul_owl> s/when//
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750 [05:29:00] <foul_owl> network is configured via /etc/network/interfaces, but perhaps some sort of network manager is messing things up
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752 [05:29:46] <missmbob> foul_owl: you set up dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces as well?
753 [05:30:28] <missmbob> if so, then just sudo apt install resolvconf - it'll read dns-nameservers from interfaces and set /etc/resolf.conf accordingly
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756 [05:30:44] <missmbob> assuming you dont have anything else fucking with it
757 [05:31:31] <missmbob> resolv.conf*
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763 [05:36:50] <foul_owl> That might be my problem
764 [05:36:56] <foul_owl> Thank you!
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779 [05:47:37] <mrrtump> anyone using testing? have chrome crashing? amd64?
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782 [05:47:50] <missmbob> !debian-next
783 [05:47:50] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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859 [06:54:58] <roylaprattep> Jesus-Christ, there is a lot of spammer on the network.
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901 [07:31:50] <nongeek> Hello
902 [07:31:59] <nongeek> I can't install OpenJDK
903 [07:32:12] <nongeek> sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre
904 [07:32:12] <nongeek> Reading package lists... Done
905 [07:32:12] <nongeek> Building dependency tree
906 [07:32:12] <nongeek> Reading state information... Done
907 [07:32:12] <nongeek> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jre
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910 [07:32:40] <nongeek> Any idea?
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912 [07:33:01] * nongeek sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre show me "E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jre"
913 [07:33:16] <han-solo> it's in the backports
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915 [07:34:24] <nongeek> han-solo: add another repository?
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917 [07:35:49] <han-solo> deb replaced-url
918 [07:36:20] <nongeek> How about "deb replaced-url
919 [07:36:51] <han-solo> do, apt-cache policy openjdk-8-jre
920 [07:37:20] <missmbob> nongeek: yes that works. then apt-get update
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924 [07:41:45] <nongeek> missmbob: How about "oracle-java8-jre" ?
925 [07:41:52] <nongeek> I like to install it too
926 [07:42:23] <nongeek> I added backport but when I enter "sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-jre" then show me "E: Unable to locate package oracle-java8-jre"
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928 [07:43:05] <han-solo> missmbob> nongeek: yes that works. then apt-get update
929 [07:43:19] <han-solo> oh! oracle
930 [07:43:32] <nongeek> Yeah
931 [07:43:49] <nongeek> I installed openjdk but I like to install oracle too
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941 [07:46:08] <nongeek> any idea?
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949 [07:47:56] <missmbob> debian doesnt have it. you can get it yourself
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952 [07:48:10] <missmbob> !java-package
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954 [07:48:10] <dpkg> java-package (formerly mpkg-j2se, j2se-package) provides the make-jpkg utility for creating Debian packages from manually downloaded <Java> distributions; Oracle Java 6 (update >= 10) and Oracle Java 7 are currently supported. java-package is available for Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems in <contrib>. replaced-url
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956 [07:48:33] <nongeek> Thank you
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1129 [08:28:29] <db1> Hey
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1132 [08:28:41] <db1> I got banned on this channel just a few minutes back
1133 [08:28:49] <db1> nick change flood
1134 [08:28:53] <db1> auto banned by bot
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1136 [08:29:07] <db1> I was making an account actually
1137 [08:29:11] <db1> how do I get unbanned?
1138 [08:29:22] <db1> 103.24.126.106 is the IP
1139 [08:29:23] <lenswipee> db1, beg to an op here.
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1146 [08:30:03] <db1> * debhelper sets ban on *!*@103.24.126.106
1147 [08:30:03] <db1> * You have been kicked from #debian by debhelper (nick flood)
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1150 [08:30:29] <db1> hey themill
1151 [08:30:31] <themill> the idea being to remove noise from the channel and the exact opposite of what you've managed since.
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1156 [08:30:59] <themill> nope. bot 1: themill 0.
1157 [08:31:05] <ksk> wtf is going on. got like 80 queries :o
1158 [08:31:09] <lenswipee> hi, can't seem to get nautilis working. need help. i did: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nautilis. I get E: package nautilis not found.
1159 [08:31:13] <db1> debhelper set mode +b *!*@103.24.126.106
1160 [08:31:23] <themill> lenswipee: learn2spell.
1161 [08:31:30] <Iota> ksk: Same here.
1162 [08:31:52] <lenswipee> themill, ?
1163 [08:31:54] <ransur0t> lenswipee: nautilUs ..
1164 [08:32:10] <db1> themill
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1166 [08:32:14] <lenswipee> right
1167 [08:32:18] <db1> could u pls unban my ip/
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1170 [08:32:42] <themill> db1: no.
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1173 [08:33:50] <lenswipee> In the DE the file manager is called 'Files', but nautilus opens Files.
1174 [08:33:50] <db1> themill
1175 [08:33:52] <db1> Any issues?
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1178 [08:34:21] <db1> I was checking a nick to create an account
1179 [08:34:29] <db1> and got auto banned
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1181 [08:34:50] <missmbob> !enter
1182 [08:34:50] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
1183 [08:35:04] <themill> db1: (a) stop hitting enter after every 3 words. (b) stop going on about it at all (c) there's nothing I can do about it as you've already seen. Wait until it times out.
1184 [08:35:33] <db1> I was making an account actually
1185 [08:35:33] <db1> how do I get unbanned?
1186 [08:35:33] <db1> ok
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1189 [08:35:39] <db1> OK
1190 [08:35:48] <lenswipee> Is nautilus same as Files?
1191 [08:35:56] <missmbob> lenswipee: yes
1192 [08:35:58] <lenswipee> why two names for a file manager?
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1194 [08:36:03] <ongy> ClearBuffer _schoof_
1195 [08:36:05] <ongy> ClearBuffer reguluus
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1198 [08:36:07] <ongy> ClearBuffer REYJAHL
1199 [08:36:09] <ongy> ClearBuffer Guest88462
1200 [08:36:11] <ongy> ClearBuffer HEFINOR
1201 [08:36:12] <missmbob> lenswipee: gnome thinks people are stupid
1202 [08:36:13] <ongy> ClearBuffer Skegineod
1203 [08:36:15] <ongy> ClearBuffer Lmarrifr
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1205 [08:36:17] <ongy> ClearBuffer platoes834
1206 [08:36:19] <ongy> ClearBuffer rgirgu
1207 [08:36:21] <ongy> ClearBuffer Heimyr
1208 [08:36:23] <ongy> ClearBuffer eyvinnr
1209 [08:36:25] <ongy> ClearBuffer Forseun
1210 [08:36:27] <ongy> ClearBuffer xXalvoramXx
1211 [08:36:29] <ongy> ClearBuffer MADOLIYR
1212 [08:36:31] <ongy> ClearBuffer xXALVUIUSXx
1213 [08:36:33] <ongy> ClearBuffer xXMildgydgyXx
1214 [08:36:35] <ongy> ClearBuffer KONDREYSKY
1215 [08:36:37] <ongy> ClearBuffer priscapuus
1216 [08:36:39] <ongy> ClearBuffer genogeky
1217 [08:36:40] <han-solo> someone
1218 [08:36:41] <ongy> ClearBuffer Wiedemann
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1220 [08:36:43] <ongy> ClearBuffer xXKoNiShIkAmAXx0
1221 [08:36:45] <ongy> ClearBuffer Nagataoda
1222 [08:36:47] <ongy> ClearBuffer sigmunrd
1223 [08:36:49] <ongy> ClearBuffer xXKhrunov_7Xx
1224 [08:36:51] <ongy> ClearBuffer Niitaima_
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1228 [08:37:38] <lenswipee> missmbob, what is gnome?
1229 [08:37:56] <lenswipee> missmbob, gnome is a DE?
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1232 [08:38:05] <missmbob> lenswipee: yes. the default one.
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1234 [08:38:21] <lenswipee> missmbob, default for which distro?
1235 [08:38:29] <jelly> debian
1236 [08:38:43] <han-solo> ubuntu
1237 [08:38:59] <han-solo> and maybe, many more
1238 [08:39:05] <jelly> lenswipee: I mean, which channel are you in
1239 [08:39:05] <lenswipee> missmbob, why gnome do silly thing and give a file manager two names?
1240 [08:39:23] <lenswipee> jelly, i'm in here
1241 [08:39:36] <jelly> lenswipee: where is here?
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1243 [08:39:48] <lenswipee> jelly, here is #debian
1244 [08:39:58] <jelly> so which distro are we talking about?
1245 [08:40:04] <themill> lenswipee: how about you step away from the keyboard for a while and get a grip on reality.
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1250 [08:40:21] <lenswipee> jelly, we talking about debian
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1252 [08:40:40] <jelly> yes!
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1256 [08:41:45] <lenswipee> themill, ?
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1259 [08:43:10] <lenswipee> anyway, i'm getting error when i run nautilus in terminal. I can see five errors when it launches.
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1262 [08:43:43] <lenswipee> invalid (NULL) pointer instance
1263 [08:44:25] <lenswipee> i'm guessing it's not normal
1264 [08:44:33] <lenswipee> how to go about fixing it
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1274 [08:47:41] <ongy> sorry about the spam earlier. that was me trying to do a script gone wrong
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1281 [08:49:33] <themill> we noticed
1282 [08:50:38] <lenswipee> how to fix damaged nautilus?
1283 [08:51:09] <han-solo> not broken, don't fix it!
1284 [08:51:27] <lenswipee> han-solo, it is broken but
1285 [08:52:26] <missmbob> programs spit out a lot of things when run from command prompt that may look bad to you but arent. so unless you're going to go into further detail about *what*/*how* it doesnt work...
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1287 [08:53:25] <missmbob> yes, even really loud looking "(nautilus:29239): Gtk-WARNING **:" means absolutely nothing.
1288 [08:53:52] <missmbob> well not nothing. but to users effectively nothing. it's for developers
1289 [08:54:02] <lenswipee> missmbob, right. trying to run a script in nautilis to open files as administrator. one of the steps is to find a file in ~/.gnome3/nautilis/Open\ as\ root
1290 [08:54:19] <missmbob> well that i'm not touching
1291 [08:54:31] <lenswipee> i can't see .gnome3 file at all
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1293 [08:55:18] <han-solo> find ~/. -name ".gnome"
1294 [08:55:29] <lenswipee> i have show hidden files enabled.
1295 [08:55:53] <lenswipee> there is no such file present.
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1298 [08:56:22] <Ben64> are you still on ubuntu?
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1301 [08:57:00] <lenswipee> Ben64, I've upgraded to debian
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1304 [08:57:34] <lenswipee> Ben64, you seem to be every where I go.
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1306 [08:57:42] <Ben64> what's the output of 'cat /etc/issue'
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1308 [08:58:01] <Ben64> yeah, but you seem to get banned from every channel...
1309 [08:58:04] <missmbob> great. when we were talking about gnome earlier he probably doesnt even have gnome. ubuntu comes with unity.
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1311 [08:58:28] <missmbob> we told you our advice is for debian. that we were talking debian. now you're on /ignore
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1314 [08:58:56] <lenswipee> missmbob, unity is a graphical shell for gnome
1315 [08:59:21] <lenswipee> missmbob, ubuntu and debian use gnome
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1318 [08:59:33] <missmbob> thank you
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1364 [09:18:09] <Iota> Good morning, world!
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1371 [09:21:23] <lilibox> hi
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1373 [09:21:53] <lilibox> i would like to know how can i do GPT disk bootable
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1379 [09:22:58] <lilibox> i am able USB flash disk boot to rescue mode
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1384 [09:24:18] <lilibox> my sda is part of RAID1 and all what i need to do is at least bootable idealy install grub on it
1385 [09:24:27] <lilibox> any recomendation, please
1386 [09:24:30] <Mathisen> lilibox, replaced-url
1387 [09:25:09] <lilibox> Mathisen: thank you, lemme look on it
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1497 [09:39:51] <kqr> not sure if this is the right place to ask but I'll try. lately, I've been getting weird errors when trying to compile simple programs with gcc. it'll complain that it can't find "stdlib.h". the same program compiles just fine with clang, so I ignored it for a while. however, other compilers that depend on gcc are now throwing impenetrable linker errors. does anyone have any idea what might have happened?
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1500 [09:40:44] <Jakobe007> Heyo!
1501 [09:41:39] <Jakobe007> Any sys admins for hire? I have a LAN cache that needs some work =D
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1504 [09:42:34] <Jakobe007> Will be around for a while, the person who set up the LANcache is no longer around =/ kind a dead in the water
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1506 [09:43:59] <Wulf> what's a LANcache?
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1508 [09:44:14] <Wulf> "steam reverse proxy"?
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1510 [09:44:39] <Jakobe007> Yeah, I suppose thats exactly what it is
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1512 [09:44:51] <Jakobe007> nginx
1513 [09:45:01] <Hink> I want to contribute to the BitTorrent downloads of Debian releases. Which versions are most helpful to seed?
1514 [09:45:05] <patterson> I wonder what's a good place to hire somebody to do that
1515 [09:45:05] <lilibox> Mathisen: basicaly, grub-efi should be helper for me, right?
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1517 [09:45:36] <patterson> I'm just here for the dry humor and to learn stuff
1518 [09:45:49] <Jakobe007> Yeah, no idea =/ but the server itself is completely configured... I guess I just need a refresher on how to get our dns server to poke the reverse proxy
1519 [09:46:11] <Jakobe007> I have a tiny bit of documentation, but our sys admin that set it up died =/
1520 [09:46:22] <Jakobe007> most of the docs were on his gdrive
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1522 [09:47:36] <Jakobe007> I only have a list of the bonds and the NIC info
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1527 [09:49:28] <Jakobe007> I'm assuming you have to make a reverse proxy and point it at the bond?
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1532 [09:51:26] <n4dir> Hink: if it was me i would go for i386 amd64 and the small iso. My guess would be that amd64 is more used (but as i don't use it ... ).
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1535 [09:52:53] <n4dir> not sure if there is a torrent for the netinstall at all ...
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1540 [09:56:15] <missmbob> yes there is. replaced-url
1541 [09:56:21] <n4dir> thanks
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1599 [10:13:44] <AlmightyCholby> Hello
1600 [10:13:47] <AlmightyCholby> i am cholby
1601 [10:13:52] <AlmightyCholby> I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!!!!!
1602 [10:14:07] <crash_> k
1603 [10:14:22] <AlmightyCholby> crash_: I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!!!!!
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1606 [10:15:26] <unborn> !ops AlmightyCholby spam
1607 [10:15:27] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: unborn complains about: AlmightyCholby spam
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1613 [10:17:52] <AlmightyCholby> unborn: i rape dolls
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1615 [10:18:01] <gasull> Hi. I just bought a new printer that is HP like the old one. I have multiple problems:
1616 [10:18:02] <gasull> 1. Print Settings detects the printer but doesn't find the driver.
1617 [10:18:02] <gasull> 2. hplib is installed but I have a problem with my apt-get since it says hplib package doesn't even exist
1618 [10:18:02] <gasull> 3. localhost:631 loads only homepage, other pages timeout
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1621 [10:18:05] <han-solo> somebody?
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1623 [10:18:39] <gasull> Apologies. I thought up to 4 lines was OK.
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1627 [10:19:14] <han-solo> don't assume
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1629 [10:19:51] <AlmightyCholby> han-solo: i rape dolls
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1631 [10:21:16] <AlmightyCholby> !ops
1632 [10:21:16] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
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1634 [10:21:28] <AlmightyCholby> !ops Hello
1635 [10:21:28] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: almightycholby complains about: Hello
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1649 [10:24:38] <gasull> "sudo aptitude search hplib" result is empty. Any idea why?
1650 [10:24:57] <han-solo> lspci
1651 [10:25:02] <han-solo> and search with that
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1656 [10:25:58] <missmbob> ,v hplib
1657 [10:25:59] <judd> No package named 'hplib' was found in amd64.
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1659 [10:26:21] <missmbob> ,v hplip
1660 [10:26:22] <judd> Package: hplip on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.6-1+b2; jessie-backports: 3.16.9+repack0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 3.16.10+repack0-1; sid: 3.16.10+repack0-1
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1662 [10:26:26] <missmbob> there we go
1663 [10:26:40] <Shadur> That would explain things, yes.
1664 [10:26:44] <gasull> missmbob: $ sudo lscpi
1665 [10:26:44] <gasull> sudo: lscpi: command not found
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1667 [10:27:14] <han-solo> lspci
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1672 [10:28:26] -RapeDong- i rape dolls
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1684 [10:30:03] -RapeDong- i rape dolls
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1687 [10:30:09] <Oksi_Br> sex video))))
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1690 [10:31:29] <gasull> !ops Oksi_Br spam
1691 [10:31:29] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: gasull complains about: Oksi_Br spam
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1695 [10:31:37] <unborn> does anyone know how to correct this? replaced-url
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1704 [10:37:47] <gasull> missmbob, han-solo: This is my /etc/apt/sources.list: replaced-url
1705 [10:38:00] <gasull> aptitude search hplib still shows nothing
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1707 [10:38:13] <gasull> after running aptitude update
1708 [10:38:14] <missmbob> gasull: so you didnt notice that you mistyped? it's hplip not hplib
1709 [10:38:24] <missmbob> the bot said so :P
1710 [10:38:35] <han-solo> :}
1711 [10:38:41] <gasull> oh
1712 [10:38:43] <Shadur> gasull: That's because it's hpliP, not hpliB.
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1714 [10:39:01] <Shadur> hplip - HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)
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1719 [10:39:31] <gasull> Shadur: thanks
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1721 [10:39:38] <Shadur> ... Should we ask google for some tips on how to implement "did you mean...?" for potential misspellings in apt-cache search? :)
1722 [10:40:43] <gasull> OK, so hplip was installed already, but localhost:631 doesn't work except for the homepage
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1724 [10:41:23] <gasull> Actually not even the homepage in w3m. I think Firefox is caching it.
1725 [10:42:03] <gasull> Restarting cups service doesn't help
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1729 [10:44:38] <gasull> OK, I tried again with Printer Settings and this time it found the driver, installed it, and printed the test page.
1730 [10:44:52] <gasull> I don't know why it didn't work the other 100 times I tried.
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1732 [10:45:31] <gasull> localhost:631 still doesn't work, though.
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1734 [10:47:04] <han-solo> great!
1735 [10:47:04] <han-solo> next!
1736 [10:47:04] <han-solo> !next
1737 [10:47:05] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1741 [10:48:19] <han-solo> or not
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1777 [11:06:07] <_Nox> Hello beautiful people
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1783 [11:11:34] <doebi_> after a successful install, the system does not boot from HD. any trouble shooting advices?
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1792 [11:18:00] <missmbob> doebi_: live cd?
1793 [11:19:46] <Shadur> doebi_: Define "does not boot" -- at which point does it fail to load? Bios not recognizing the hard drive or not loading Grub? Grub not loading the kernel? Kernel not finding the root fs?
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1797 [11:21:12] <missmbob> doebi_: dont use live to install. among other bugs it doesnt support uefi. not waiting for your to respond because i'm falling asleep but wanted you to have that info
1798 [11:22:22] <Shadur> missmbob: That's what I'm thinking too.
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1813 [11:29:00] <darxmurf> hi all
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1835 [11:36:58] <kqr> I hear from other sources that debian has "changed the default of gcc to use -fPIC". is it possible to revert this change for the time being? some software I'm using apparently depends on whatever was the previous -fPIC default
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1839 [11:38:05] <missmbob> kqr: the best way is to revert back to gcc5 (btw you should be asking in testing/sid's channel)
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1841 [11:38:35] <kqr> missmbob, ah okay. right-o. is that on freenode?
1842 [11:38:42] <missmbob> !debian-next
1843 [11:38:42] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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1846 [11:39:29] <missmbob> kqr: replaced-url
1847 [11:39:30] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1869 [11:50:41] <kqr> missmbob, thank you so much
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1874 [11:53:56] <julius_> i followed replaced-url
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1880 [11:56:49] <missmbob> julius_: before reboot, after dpkg-reconfigure locales, does echo $LANG give you what it should?
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1884 [11:57:15] <julius_> why wouldnt it, i just exported it
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1889 [11:58:44] <themill> is this in console, gnome, kde, xfce, ...?
1890 [11:58:51] <julius_> gnome-terminal
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1892 [11:59:08] <themill> gnome likely overrides whatever other settings there are
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1894 [11:59:23] <julius_> you mean before rebooting, it will reset LANG?
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1896 [11:59:37] <nchambers> exports do not carry across reboots
1897 [11:59:43] <julius_> i know
1898 [11:59:45] <teraflops> julius_: where? tty or inside gnome?
1899 [11:59:54] <themill> no, I mean when you log in, gnome will load settings
1900 [11:59:54] <julius_> nchambers, but its in the debian guide
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1903 [12:00:01] <teraflops> also export by hand is not what you want
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1905 [12:00:19] <julius_> teraflops, its written like that here: replaced-url
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1908 [12:00:31] <missmbob> the debian guide has export first so you can properly read dpkg-reconfigure
1909 [12:00:33] <missmbob> that's all
1910 [12:00:38] <teraflops> julius_: you pasted like 3 times that link
1911 [12:01:01] <julius_> missmbob, ah i see
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1916 [12:02:28] <julius_> teraflops, yes because i wasnt sure why there was a export as the first step. now i know
1917 [12:02:37] <teraflops> ah right
1918 [12:02:50] <julius_> actually this was under gnome, but im chrooted to another system
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1932 [12:08:14] <plasmoduck> hey guys im using gnome and it appears this version of the terminal doesnt support transparency. How can I uninstall this version of the terminal and a version that has support? Cheers ;-)
1933 [12:08:16] <missmbob> julius_: i dont use gnome but this seems to be something you can do with gdm. edit /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$USER and put Language=your_locale under [User]
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1941 [12:09:40] <julius_> missmbob, sorry i did not explain it correctly. the target system (debian testing) is on a different partition and im chrooting to it. then i rebooted this (stable) system and chrooted again to testing
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1943 [12:10:11] <julius_> i mean i was in testing for one boot..but gnome didnt start, so i went back to stable
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1957 [12:13:41] <missmbob> julius_: you can try putting LANG=foo directly in /etc/profile. that should set it immediately after login
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1963 [12:14:48] <missmbob> maybe there's some weird testing locales bug
1964 [12:14:58] <missmbob> ...which is why you should be asking the testing channel
1965 [12:15:02] <teraflops> plasmoduck: if by terminal you meant gnome-terminal it doesn't support transparency.
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1971 [12:16:53] <plasmoduck> teraflops: I seem to recall it used to? The thing is, I'm using the dark mode system theme so if I use another terminal like mate-terminal the top of the window is white.
1972 [12:17:16] <teraflops> I wonder why people wants a transparent terminal client appart from getting blind eventually
1973 [12:17:25] <teraflops> plasmoduck: yeah years ago ;P
1974 [12:17:48] <teraflops> plasmoduck: fedora patches it iirc
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1980 [12:19:50] <julius_> missmbob, ah yes testing
1981 [12:20:21] <plasmoduck> teraflops: like this replaced-url
1982 [12:20:22] <teraflops> hmm consistent black theme can be hard. tried lxappearance gnome tweak whatever is called etc?
1983 [12:20:53] <missmbob> plasmoduck: i use xfce4-terminal and it supports transparency (if you have composit enabled)
1984 [12:21:16] <plasmoduck> I like to keep and eye on things happening in the background with transparency ;-)
1985 [12:21:28] <teraflops> ;S
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1988 [12:22:19] <missmbob> i keep track of background too, but i do it by using notify-send everywhere :P make && notify-send "done"
1989 [12:22:29] <plasmoduck> Also trying to get my biometric finger scanner to work so when I sudo I can simply scan my finger.
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1991 [12:22:30] <missmbob> you know...the sane way without going blind
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1995 [12:23:05] <teraflops> plasmoduck: set it up system wide black theme in gnome tweak tool. and try to set it to dark any other thing that is not gnome related
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1998 [12:23:42] <gedas> Hello,
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2001 [12:23:50] <gedas> Who is working with LXD?
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2005 [12:24:19] <teraflops> gedas: you better ask real question not a poll
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2012 [12:26:22] <gedas> teraflops, How to set static IP address on container from bridge? Bridge is not managed and uses real IP address
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2026 [12:29:35] <aurelkajeli> hello
2027 [12:29:45] <aurelkajeli> im speaking from freedos :)
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2030 [12:30:13] <LambdaCalculus37> umode +R
2031 [12:30:21] <LambdaCalculus37> Oops, sorry/
2032 [12:30:38] <aurelkajeli> testing irc on FreeDos
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2039 [12:34:15] <teraflops> gedas: yeah that's the way but I don't use lxc containers just hang a bit by here
2040 [12:34:56] <aurelkajeli> reli
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2045 [12:36:48] <gedas> teraflops, okey
2046 [12:37:09] <aurelkajeli> hello
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2053 [12:38:50] <jmp> aurelkajeli: modern systems work with irc as well
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2088 [12:50:08] <deepbluv> I use jessie amd64 and I failed to compile ponyprog here replaced-url
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2096 [12:52:40] <missmbob> deepbluv: that's not happening. you need gcc-3.4 for that. that's ancient as hell
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2106 [12:58:20] <deepbluv> missmbob: so ,can't any modifcations be made?
2107 [12:58:48] <missmbob> deepbluv: i dont know of anyone with a gcc that old. you might find someone
2108 [12:59:38] <deepbluv> missmbob: buteven if so, will it run on amd64?
2109 [13:00:16] <jelly> try it and see?
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2111 [13:00:34] <jelly> deepbluv: which version did you download?
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2113 [13:01:29] <deepbluv> missmbob: there is only one version for linux which is x86
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2116 [13:02:10] <jelly> deepbluv: there are sources for 2.08d at replaced-url
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2118 [13:02:39] <deepbluv> jelly: that's great,thanx alot
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2122 [13:03:24] <deepbluv> missmbob: I know wht you will say:'install multiarch-suppot
2123 [13:03:39] <deepbluv> '
2124 [13:04:48] <deepbluv> jelly: ok,got it by now.thanx
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2134 [13:07:08] <Exileur> Hi guys
2135 [13:07:14] <Exileur> i have a little problem
2136 [13:07:34] <Exileur> when iam log on personnal session, i have a fat ugly $
2137 [13:07:40] <bazhang> ask the channel then
2138 [13:07:58] <Exileur> and when iam root, i have the full path on curently dir
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2140 [13:08:19] <Exileur> why ? how can i get back my beautifull path on curently dir
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2142 [13:08:47] <teraflops> Exileur: are you talking about terminal?
2143 [13:08:52] <Exileur> yeah
2144 [13:09:01] <Exileur> i dont have any interface
2145 [13:09:14] <Exileur> so, in local terminal
2146 [13:09:15] <Exileur> or ssh
2147 [13:09:28] <Exileur> i dont have the curently dir path write
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2149 [13:09:55] <teraflops> bash? zsh? other? did you touch .*to files or whatever? are you in try or inside xorg?
2150 [13:10:02] <Exileur> like "cd /etc/ssh" with root, i have root@BFP /etc/ssh:
2151 [13:10:13] <teraflops> *rc files I meant sorry
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2153 [13:10:38] <Exileur> and with personal session : "cd /etc/ssh" i have a fat ugly $ only
2154 [13:10:42] <jelly> Exileur: read about PS1 and prompt setting in your shell's manual
2155 [13:10:52] <teraflops> bah I cannot fight this mobile client it writes what it wants...
2156 [13:10:55] <Exileur> man PS1 ?
2157 [13:11:10] <jelly> Exileur: do you know which interactive shell are you using?
2158 [13:11:28] <Exileur> debian 8.6 minimal installation
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2160 [13:11:46] <Exileur> the defaut session work but the new session do this $
2161 [13:11:46] <jelly> Exileur: so, "bash" for normal users
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2163 [13:12:06] <jelly> thus, "man bash", I guess
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2165 [13:12:31] <Exileur> okok
2166 [13:12:32] <jelly> how do you open this "new session"?
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2168 [13:12:41] <Exileur> local and ssh thats the same
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2171 [13:12:54] <Exileur> i checked my .bashrc
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2174 [13:13:57] <arha> whoa
2175 [13:14:02] <arha> what's wit hthe privmsg spam?
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2177 [13:14:28] <teraflops> an enraged spammer
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2192 [13:21:27] <edi> arha: encoutered the spam crap too yesterday
2193 [13:21:45] <edi> used the umode +R, works like a charm
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2196 [13:23:03] <missmbob> i just learned +R doesn't work on oftc. that was fun
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2204 [13:26:21] <deepbluv> ok,just to combine it with debian switch to jessie
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2208 [13:28:41] <deepbluv> after scrutiny search ,I can't find the package with libexpat.so file.any help?
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2210 [13:29:17] <themill> deepbluv: how did you search?
2211 [13:29:45] <deepbluv> in debian packages searh box
2212 [13:29:58] <themill> !apt-file
2213 [13:29:58] <dpkg> apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>.
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2215 [13:30:32] <themill> sounds like you're searching package names not package contents
2216 [13:31:00] <deepbluv> themill: ah,ok.thanx
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2218 [13:31:32] <themill> (you'll find it in the libexpat1 package)
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2233 [13:38:11] <deepbluv> themill: found now,thanx ,bro
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2280 [14:06:12] <Drzacek> Hi
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2282 [14:07:47] <Drzacek> After editing limits.conf, I have to do something special to apply new values? I rebooted but it doesn't look like anything changed - ulimit -r still says 0
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2287 [14:11:05] <Jonno_FTW> I'm trying to upgrade vlc, but I get the following message about unmet deps: replaced-url
2288 [14:11:08] <Jonno_FTW> what do I do?
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2291 [14:11:52] <themill> Jonno_FTW: upgrade from what to what?
2292 [14:11:54] <themill> dpkg: tell Jonno_FTW about bat
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2296 [14:12:59] <Drzacek> Ok, I was able to change limits when provided my username - any idea why it didn't worked for @users?
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2299 [14:15:21] <Jonno_FTW> themill: replaced-url
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2303 [14:17:14] <themill> Jonno_FTW: when was the last time you ran "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade"?
2304 [14:17:37] <Jonno_FTW> not long ago
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2307 [14:17:49] <Jonno_FTW> should I run it again?
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2311 [14:18:52] <Jonno_FTW> themill: here's my sources.list: replaced-url
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2313 [14:19:51] <themill> Qt 5.6 hasn't been in sid for a couple of months
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2315 [14:20:17] <Jonno_FTW> dist-upgrade then?
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2358 [14:39:49] <fvb> hello, I just started to use Debian with a brand new net install. I installed ALSA for sound but i can't the sound to work... plz halp... Card:HDA Intel PCH .. Chip: Conexant CX20757
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2364 [14:42:24] <evilman_work> fvb: run 'alsamixer' and check the levels
2365 [14:42:44] <fvb> levels are all up and seem fine
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2367 [14:43:30] <evilman_work> fvb: have you seen the 'M' letter under the level-bar?
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2369 [14:43:59] <fvb> no, i suppose that stands for "mute"
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2374 [14:46:18] <evilman_work> fvb: do you see your sound device in the lspci output?
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2376 [14:47:37] <fvb> 1st: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
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2378 [14:48:17] <evilman_work> it looks like '00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)' or something similar.
2379 [14:48:32] <fvb> 2nd: intel Corporation 8 series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
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2381 [14:48:57] <evilman_work> fvb: don't paste the full lspci output into chat directly, please.
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2387 [14:52:01] <evilman_work> fvb: ok. now check output of 'lspci -vkbs <bus>:<slot>' (<bus> and <slot> you have seen in the previous output of lspci).
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2394 [14:52:58] <evilman_work> fvb: you should see tne kernel module name in the output.
2395 [14:53:54] <fvb> <bus>:<slot>? what do those look like?
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2397 [14:54:35] <han-solo> something like, 00:2f
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2400 [14:55:19] <fvb> 1st: 00:03.0
2401 [14:55:33] <fvb> 2nd: 00:1b.0
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2442 [15:08:57] <dcpc007> hi all !
2443 [15:09:40] <dcpc007> what are you using to manage many ssh connexion to servers, other than configure bloc aliases in a .ssh/config (manually managed ...)
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2479 [15:22:43] <kwek> hello.. when running 'fakeroot debian/rules build' on my package, I always get 'make: 'build' is up to date.'. but I do have a Makefile in the current dir which doesn't seem to be executed. Running 'dh build' does start the build. Any hints?
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2481 [15:23:36] <BadCodSmell> apt-get often sends loads of requests and one fails. Is there an easy way to take a bunch of source and amalgamte them into one source?
2482 [15:23:44] <BadCodSmell> by this I don't mean a mirror, just the meta data
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2507 [15:30:43] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
2508 [15:31:09] <mernilio> damn crpwded here!
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2512 [15:32:19] <mernilio> I need silence! Pleace keep quite!
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2514 [15:32:37] <mernilio> now contuniue :-)
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2518 [15:33:36] <mernilio> sure youi can continue`
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2520 [15:33:55] <mernilio> I hate my own voice... :-P
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2528 [15:36:30] <henrey8th> just installed unbound on debian 8.6 I want to change the dns addresses in the 'dns-nameservers' line to 127.0.0.1 at the moment etc/network/interfaces looks like so replaced-url
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2552 [15:41:51] <mum0l> Hi guys! Today I found that one application is disabled on init scripts on all my monitoring servers.. One month ago, we're upgrading the application and somehow it was disabled on init scripts, so I simply reenable it, and this works fine.. Now I found that application is again disabled on init scripts, and I am wondering what could cause that? Any idea how to start the investigation, what can cause it? debian 7.11 (no upgrades last time)
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2578 [15:46:44] <Howdy> Hello People!
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2586 [15:49:51] <BadCodSmell> We're not people.
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2588 [15:50:09] <Howdy> Hello Peons!
2589 [15:50:31] <BadCodSmell> We're.... brace thyself... debians!
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2591 [15:50:48] <Howdy> LoL Hello Debians!
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2688 [16:32:46] <eri451> o/
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2697 [16:36:36] <Howdy> \o
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2751 [16:54:26] <thebwt> O7
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2775 [16:59:51] <mernilio> Before i say anything .. Hi all! :-)
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2779 [17:00:10] <ero95> hi mernilio
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2781 [17:00:31] <mernilio> hi ero
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2787 [17:04:16] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. The current debian stable live DVD boots on my iMac from 2006. However, wireless networking doesn't seem to work. I typed dmesg at the Terminal and found this: replaced-url
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2790 [17:05:17] <mernilio> Hi Rich!
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2792 [17:06:08] <mernilio> Im sure your homespun debian is tthe best ever! :-)
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2795 [17:07:18] <mernilio> and boot from 2006 .. that seems up do date!
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2799 [17:08:18] <mernilio> Dont let me ... ;-)
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2801 [17:09:54] <mernilio> Ohh.. it boots from his old mac from 2006 .. that's another thing!
2802 [17:10:28] <mernilio> Well done richard!
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2805 [17:12:56] <ero95> Richard_Cavell: what version of iMac are you using?
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2807 [17:14:07] <xormor> I like POSIX and GNU. I love UNIX/LINUX/GNU.
2808 [17:14:45] <xormor> would I benefit from switching to a real Unix from my Debian GNU/Linux?
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2812 [17:15:50] <teraflops> who know.... RMS says gnu + linux is fine
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2814 [17:16:08] <Richard_Cavell> ero95: iMac5,1
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2853 [17:31:13] <jhutchins> xormor: You can always give one of the BSDs a try.
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2875 [17:36:51] <kregol> ahh it's a wonderful day
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2881 [17:37:52] <jhutchins> I hope chromium gets updated to 55. 53 is getting unusable for me between the certificate transparency issue and blocking mixed content (which wrecks CSS).
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2901 [17:44:03] <gasull1> Hello. I installed my new HP DeskJet 2130 correctly as printer, but I still can't use it as a scanner. I tried with gscan2pdf. How can I troubleshoot this?
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2912 [17:46:24] <t4nk495> yes
2913 [17:47:24] <t4nk495> im new here
2914 [17:47:56] <t4nk495> helo ?
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2918 [17:49:07] <t4nk495> someone ?
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2924 [17:49:58] <jhutchins> gasull1: Try xsane. Mostly just works.
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2930 [17:51:15] <gasull1> jhutchins: It doesn't for me: "Failed to start scanner: Invalid argument"
2931 [17:51:29] <gasull1> That's when I click "scan".
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2935 [17:53:06] <gasull1> In the logs I see this:
2936 [17:53:06] <gasull1> colord-sane: io/hpmud/musb.c 2075: Invalid usb_open: Permission denied
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2938 [17:54:54] <gasull1> And before that this other message:
2939 [17:54:54] <gasull1> hp-config_usb_printer: hp-config_usb_printer[17124]: error: This is not a valid device
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2966 [18:04:37] <jhutchins> gasull1: Figure out who owns the device in /dev/ and add your user to the group.
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2968 [18:04:59] <jhutchins> gasull1: That's probably the same problem gscan2pdf is having.
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2974 [18:06:37] <gasull1> jhutchins: How do I find the device in /dev/
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2976 [18:06:38] <gasull1> ?
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2987 [18:10:07] <effbiai> what's all the PM's with kloeri about? got like a hundred of them..
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2991 [18:10:41] <gasull1> jhutchins: scanimage -L only lists my webcam.
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2994 [18:11:14] <EmleyMoor> Anyone know a way to close lots of windows all at once in irssi?
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3002 [18:13:30] <jhutchins> gasull1: I think I had to track mine down via it's SCSI address.
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3005 [18:13:43] <jhutchins> gasull1: Oh, I know, unplug the USB, plug it back in, and look at dmesg.
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3008 [18:14:57] <jhutchins> gasull1: I don't see one I recognise, it's probably not in /dev now bacuase it's off (and was when I last booted).
3009 [18:15:24] <jhutchins> emerson: Did you get pm spammed?
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3012 [18:15:53] <jhutchins> emerson: Sorry, emelymoor quit.
3013 [18:16:42] <emerson> :p
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3016 [18:16:47] <emerson> i did too though
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3021 [18:19:21] <jhutchins> emerson: Did what, got spammed?
3022 [18:19:27] <emerson> yea
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3024 [18:20:03] <emerson> thankfully i could actually do something about it :p
3025 [18:20:05] <effbiai> what was that alla bout?
3026 [18:20:09] <gasull1> jhutchins: I don't know how to find the device in dmesg: replaced-url
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3028 [18:20:25] <jhutchins> emerson: I just quit and restarted irssi. Is there a better way to handle it?
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3030 [18:20:36] <effbiai> who did you piss off kloeri? :)
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3032 [18:20:46] <emerson> you can close buffer ranges in irssi
3033 [18:20:51] <emerson> i forgot how though
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3036 [18:21:24] <effbiai> just bind /wc to a combination and quit all the windows with using the keyboard combination :)
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3038 [18:22:15] <jhutchins> gasull1: I don't see it either, maybe a driver is missing.
3039 [18:22:19] <effbiai> ie. /bind meta-s command wc
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3054 [18:27:42] <gasull1> jhutchins: There was a way to install Windows drivers in Linux. Maybe I should try that.
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3065 [18:30:19] <jmp> gasull1: what are you trying to do ?
3066 [18:30:22] <jmp> also: lspci
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3071 [18:30:58] <gasull1> jmp: command not found
3072 [18:31:14] <jhutchins> gasull1: Not until you've thoroughly researched your model + linux.
3073 [18:31:24] <gasull1> jmp: I'm trying to get my new HP DeskJet 2130 to scan (It already prints).
3074 [18:31:27] <jhutchins> gasull1: Might want to be root.
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3076 [18:31:40] <gasull1> jhutchins: tried with sudo
3077 [18:31:40] <jhutchins> gasull1: Are you using hp-lip?
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3080 [18:32:17] <gasull1> jhutchins: hplip is installed
3081 [18:32:18] <jmp> gasull1: right, apt install pciutils
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3084 [18:32:54] <jmp> gasull1: also, using CUPS I guess ? replaced-url
3085 [18:33:03] <jhutchins> I thought that was a default, but yeah.
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3088 [18:33:22] <jmp> gasull1: replaced-url
3089 [18:33:25] <jmp> should suffice
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3093 [18:34:45] <gasull1> jmp: lspci listed now. I don't think I see the printer. What am I supposed to see there?
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3101 [18:36:47] <jmp> gasull1: nah, that is for PCI devices, I thought you were trying to configure wifi or something
3102 [18:37:00] <jmp> replied that without knowning your actual problem as a guess/tip
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3108 [18:38:43] <gasull1> jmp: Following that guide I get this error running hp-scan:
3109 [18:38:43] <gasull1> error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality.
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3122 [18:40:58] <jhutchins> gasull1: It wouldn't show up on lspci if it's USB (which it is). lsusb.
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3124 [18:41:33] <jhutchins> gasull1: ... which, unsurprizingly, is in usbutils.
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3126 [18:42:29] <gasull1> jhutchins: yes it's there:
3127 [18:42:29] <gasull1> Bus 001 Device 026: ID 03f0:e111 Hewlett-Packard
3128 [18:42:40] <gasull1> As said I can print, but not scan.
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3134 [18:43:18] <t4nk547> Hi guys, i need some tips for my iptables config
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3136 [18:43:40] <t4nk547> i use this one, can you tell me if i missed something ? or did something wrong ?
3137 [18:43:42] <t4nk547> replaced-url
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3139 [18:44:18] <gasull1> t4nk547: channel #netfilter is better for that
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3142 [18:45:09] <t4nk547> oh, thanks man ! :D
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3163 [18:51:01] <gasull1> I'll give it another shot on the weekend. Thanks jhutchins and jmp.
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3207 [19:08:23] <jhutchins> ,v hpijs
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3209 [19:08:25] <judd> Package: hpijs on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1
3210 [19:08:36] <jhutchins> I'll bet that's what he needs.
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3247 [19:24:03] <rue_shop3> should unstable work? I upgraded and x wont start...
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3254 [19:27:54] <somiaj> rue_shop3: unstable is undergoing and xorg migration and non-free drivers aren't working currently. You should join #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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3262 [19:31:25] <jhutchins> rue_shop3: There are also some issues with the intel video drivers not detecting hardware correctly.
3263 [19:31:56] <jhutchins> rue_shop3: I think there are work-arounds on the mailing list.
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3270 [19:34:32] <julius_> openwrt
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3277 [19:36:48] <rue_shop3> mmm I think its an intel card
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3279 [19:37:07] <rue_shop3> hmm, so maybe I should wipe the machine and just install stable..
3280 [19:37:11] <rue_shop3> drat
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3282 [19:37:39] <rue_shop3> can I downgrade?
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3284 [19:38:16] <rapha> hi!
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3286 [19:38:51] <rue_shop3> apt-get should have a downgrade option for how many times this happens
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3288 [19:39:47] <FinalX> you can tell apt-get to install a specific version, so you can downgrade
3289 [19:39:49] <rapha> i'm trying to set up a router with debian. strangely, after removing all networkmanager packages, the eth* interfaces won't enable without a cable plugged into them, and even then, /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't set any ip addresses (manually defined in /etc/network/interfaces). what am i missing?
3290 [19:40:38] <FinalX> rue_shop3: apt-cache policy <package>, then pick a version, apt-get install <package>=<version> from that list
3291 [19:41:25] <rue_shop3> but I need to do it to the whole install now...
3292 [19:41:35] <rue_shop3> I need to take a machine back to stable
3293 [19:41:39] <rue_shop3> :)
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3295 [19:42:19] <rapha> better reinstall rue_shop3
3296 [19:42:19] <FinalX> well, eh. yeah. that might prove a little more difficult ;-) maybe zfs with snapshots, for future reference? :) can make restore points easy with that :p bit late now, though.
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3299 [19:44:00] <rue_shop3> the machine was kinda borked anyhow, the attempt to go to unstable was a last-ditch
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3305 [19:44:59] <stew> rue_shop3: there is a huge disparity between how much work it would be to support downgrades and how many people are interested in doing the work
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3307 [19:45:33] <rue_shop3> hahah, ok.
3308 [19:45:44] <stew> espeically since many upstreams don't support downgrading
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3310 [19:46:14] <rue_shop3> add me to the list, I'll do 3 lines of code (which will prolly take about 3 months of reading to figure out)
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3318 [19:48:47] <Howdy> hey guys how do I install PCIback on debian jessie?
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3328 [19:54:59] <lilibox> hi
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3338 [19:57:55] <AlexLikeRock> hi Lildirt
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3340 [19:58:00] <AlexLikeRock> hi lilibox
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3346 [19:59:37] <Howdy> FATAL: Module pciback not found+
3347 [19:59:41] <Howdy> :-(
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3352 [20:00:45] <somiaj> Howdy: I don't recongnize that module name, could it be specifcally mentioned in /etc/modules or some other file but not actually built on your kernel?
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3354 [20:01:15] <somiaj> oh is this part of xen? Do you have the specific xen kernels installed?
3355 [20:01:30] <lilibox> i moved in my RAID1 problem, i created another GPT partitioning system on bigger TB disk, moved data from old 1TB md0p1 and make new disk bootable in degraded mode
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3358 [20:01:54] <rapha> aha!
3359 [20:01:55] <lilibox> now, i would like to know how to grow md0 to full size of partition on new disk
3360 [20:02:02] <rapha> allow-hotplug seems to be outdated
3361 [20:02:08] <rapha> with it, the interfaces file can
3362 [20:02:10] <rapha> t be read
3363 [20:02:19] <rapha> someone should update the docs to reflect that
3364 [20:02:26] <lilibox> fdisk says /dev/sda2 is 3.7TB and md0 is still 1TB
3365 [20:02:27] <somiaj> rapha: afiak it isn't, it is just only triggered when a wired device triggers a plug event.
3366 [20:02:37] <Howdy> Somiaj:its for Xen
3367 [20:02:37] <somiaj> lilibox: md0 part of lvm?
3368 [20:02:52] <Howdy> Somiaj:I have xen 4.2 installed
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3371 [20:03:44] <somiaj> Howdy: you may have to check the xen kernel as I don't see any config options in the normal 3.16 kernel matching pciback
3372 [20:03:45] <lilibox> i guess no, i used just simple mdadm
3373 [20:04:01] <Howdy> somiaj:its for PCI pass thru
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3376 [20:04:34] <somiaj> Howdy: I got that I checked for pciback and pcipass, seems it is something for xen, it may be part of the custom xen kernel patches. Do you have the xen domu kernel installed?
3377 [20:05:01] <rapha> somiaj: i
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3380 [20:05:20] <Howdy> I have only xen 4.2 installed
3381 [20:05:26] <Howdy> I have windows running in Guest
3382 [20:05:33] <rapha> somiaj: i'm trying to set up a machine here and just spent an hours trying to figure out why the /etc/network/interfaces file could not be parsed, and this was it.
3383 [20:05:38] <Howdy> no trying to do pass thru
3384 [20:05:44] <Howdy> *now
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3388 [20:06:57] <somiaj> rapha: I have seen others report the 'auto eth0' or equivlant line not being added to cause the interface to come up at boot
3389 [20:07:14] <somiaj> rapha: but that is different than the allow-hotplug which triggers the interface on the event a cord is plugged in
3390 [20:07:30] <lilibox> somiaj: i found this promising tutorial replaced-url
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3392 [20:08:03] <somiaj> Howdy: you might want to find a xen specific support channel, maybe one for debian. Seems the module you want is not standard in the kernels I have access to don't inlcude this because it is xen specific
3393 [20:08:13] <somiaj> lilibox: hope it works, I have barely any experience with raids.
3394 [20:08:18] <rapha> somiaj: i understand what they're for. i'm telling you that on 8.5.0, if there's an auto-hotplug line present, the file cannot be parsed.
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3397 [20:08:35] <rapha> sorry, allow-hotplug
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3401 [20:09:27] <somiaj> rapha: what error did you get again?
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3405 [20:09:59] <rapha> somiaj: /etc/network/interfaces:12: misplaced option
3406 [20:10:41] <rapha> somiaj: ooooooooooh it IS my bad after all! allow-hotplug must NOT be AFTER the iface line!
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3408 [20:11:04] <somiaj> rapha: care to share your interfaces file? ahh yea I see some bugs about now allow-hotplug works but none about it breaking the interface file.
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3411 [20:12:12] <rapha> somiaj: it's working now. allow-hotplug must be before the interface's iface line...
3412 [20:12:30] <somiaj> is this mentioned in the manpage?
3413 [20:12:47] <Howdy> somaj:thanks
3414 [20:12:55] <somiaj> or were you trying to include allow-hotplug as part of the interface stanza? Maybe it is more that then before vs after.
3415 [20:13:01] <somiaj> Howdy: hope you can find your answer
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3418 [20:13:54] <rapha> somiaj: what's a stanza? is that like, a paragraph?
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3424 [20:15:40] <somiaj> rapha: correct. when you say iface eth0 inet static for example, the next lines that follow are all additional options for that interface. I indent them but I don't think they have to be
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3427 [20:16:20] <rapha> somiaj: ah okay. yes, i indent them too. and yes, the mistake i had made was that i included allow-hotplug in the interface stanza, which is not permitted.
3428 [20:16:24] <somiaj> unsure no the details on how the interface files knows when the options are for the current iface vs global. So I see them groups in stanzas/paragraphs/blocks. Could be the auto-hotplug was being read as part of the iface block and not as its own line
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3696 [20:46:03] <Roland-> hey guys, I have an issue with a server, as soon as I copy something from it it restarts without a single error logged. Cannot get anything in dmesg nor messages, I do have IPMI and ILO but none show anything relevent (just a plain: server reset)
3697 [20:46:13] <Roland-> what would be a good way to troubleshot this...
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3706 [20:47:46] <somiaj> Roland-: how are you coppying something from it?
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3765 [20:54:16] <menace> does anyone know of a scriptable torrent-program? like put something to load into a queue an message back if it is completely loaded ?
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3777 [20:56:44] <AlexLikeRock> scriptable torrent-program = transmission,
3778 [20:56:44] <Shadur> Is there a way to disable receiving messages from people not on your whitelist? The clowns from Encyclopedia Dramatica are getting obnoxious.
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3780 [20:56:51] <AlexLikeRock> transmimssion by DAEMON
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3783 [20:57:16] <Shadur> transmission-daemon's pretty slick, yeah.
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3786 [20:57:55] <AlexLikeRock> (y)
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3788 [20:58:09] <somiaj> Shadur: look at your client, you whould be able to disable all messages. something like umode +g or +G [I forget the details]
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3796 [20:59:26] <srsc> replaced-url
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3801 [21:00:16] <somiaj> srsc: this really isn't the place to report such an issue, but I can confirm it is down.
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3804 [21:00:41] <somiaj> srsc: unsure the best place to report it, but I would just wait, things will get fixed.
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3808 [21:01:07] <rawf> how can I reinstall my SSL certificates?
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3810 [21:01:47] <Shadur> rawf: How did you first obtain it?
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3815 [21:02:10] <rawf> Shadur: from the installation medium
3816 [21:02:26] <rawf> SSL has been malfunctioning for weeks now and I have no idea why
3817 [21:02:35] <Shadur> Which installation medium?
3818 [21:02:51] <rawf> cd
3819 [21:03:01] <Roland-> kloeri wtf
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3822 [21:03:26] <Shadur> rawf: ... As far as I'm aware, there are no SSL certificates on the CD. What precisely are you talking about?
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3828 [21:03:53] <somiaj> there is the ca-certificates package which is needed by browers, could that be it?
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3832 [21:04:16] <Shadur> somiaj: Could be, but there's rarely /any/ reason to mess with it.
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3835 [21:05:03] <somiaj> correct, I was thinking he meant some ssl cert for a server which is something you have to manaully intsall and won't be on the cd
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3838 [21:05:37] <rawf> It's the CA certificates used by browsers that are misbehaving
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3843 [21:06:12] <Shadur> rawf: You can reinstall any package with apt-get --reinstall install, but what exactly is the problem you're having?
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3846 [21:06:14] <hexnewbie> rawf: Is 20141019+deb8u1 the version you have installed?
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3848 [21:06:29] <Shadur> Because unless you did something inadvisable to it yourself it should be working fine.
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3853 [21:07:01] <rawf> this is my exact problem: replaced-url
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3860 [21:07:56] <rawf> I was expecting there to be a debian upgrade of chromium that would fix this, but there hasn't been and it's been messed up for weeks.
3861 [21:08:25] <hexnewbie> rawf: Any example site where you hit this? Does it occur in Firefox?
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3864 [21:08:37] <rawf> hexnewbie: replaced-url
3865 [21:08:50] <rawf> but reinstalling chromium doesn't fix the problem, so I don't know what else to do
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3875 [21:10:15] <somiaj> rawf: care to share the output of apt-cache policy ca-certificates at paste.debian.net
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3879 [21:10:38] <Roland-> guys you have a botnet here
3880 [21:10:42] <Roland-> keeps messaging
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3885 [21:11:01] <hexnewbie> Roland-: /topic
3886 [21:11:03] <greycat> What do you expect us to do about it? Report it to freenode staff.
3887 [21:11:15] <somiaj> Roland-: read the topic, freenode staff is trying to deal with it, but best is disable messages
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3891 [21:11:44] <Pr0metheus> any idea how i can do the /mode mynickname +R on Polari?
3892 [21:11:52] <greycat> Ask #freenode
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3894 [21:12:00] <greycat> or your IRC client's support channel
3895 [21:12:26] <fguide> Pr0metheus: I'd bet /quote mode nickname +R
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3898 [21:12:44] <Roland-> alright better now
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3900 [21:13:00] <Pr0metheus> fguide wrong bet:P
3901 [21:13:09] <hexnewbie> rawf: I would also like to see the output of ‘apt-cache policy chromium’
3902 [21:13:20] <fguide> lol that's fine
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3905 [21:13:35] <rawf> somiaj: replaced-url
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3908 [21:14:05] <rawf> hexnewbie: replaced-url
3909 [21:14:07] <hexnewbie> Yeah, that's the newest ca-certificates, *and* the symantec one hasn't been changed in Jessie
3910 [21:14:29] <rawf> everything I've checked is "as it should be"
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3913 [21:14:50] <rawf> yet chromium still rejects sites
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3916 [21:15:24] <somiaj> rawf: have you installed anything outside of debian jessie software on your system that could have caused this problem?
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3918 [21:15:32] <asulil> Hi all
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3921 [21:16:01] <somiaj> rawf: It is working here, I suggest you maybe try a new user, adduser testuser, put them in the same/similar groups as your main user, login as this new user and see if the issue presists. Maybe it is some local configuring in $HOME messing with thigns.
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3923 [21:16:14] <rawf> somiaj: tried it, same problem
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3925 [21:16:34] <hexnewbie> rawf: I would run ‘update-ca-certificates’ -- that won't change the installed ones, IIRC, just generate a concatenated file and a lot of symlinks. ‘update-ca-certificates -f’ would delete the current symlinks.
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3929 [21:17:50] <rawf> hexnewbie: didn't solve the problem
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3931 [21:18:21] <rawf> I've installed steam, and run it as an underpriv user. That's the only 3rd party software I've installed.
3932 [21:18:23] <asulil> does anyone know whether it's possible to install GUI from live cd ?
3933 [21:18:31] <unborn> rawf: quick tip: set system date a few days back
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3937 [21:19:16] <somiaj> asulil: What do you mean? Use the livecd as a set of sources to install on yoru mian system?
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3940 [21:19:37] <somiaj> asulil: It is prefered to use the network, but look at apt-cdrom and see if it detects the live-cd correctly for using it as apt sources
3941 [21:19:39] <hexnewbie> rawf: If you temporarily rename ~/.config/chromium and ~/.cache/chromium and try with an empty profile, does it work? (Not sure how to start an empty profile in chromium otherwise -- hope I didn't miss any of its dirs there)
3942 [21:19:52] <WangDang_> Hi, what would prevent a network link from becoming ready? I dist-upgraded a freshly minted jessie system to stretch, and I keep getting link is not ready messages when I try to bring up the link. It just stays down
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3944 [21:19:57] <somiaj> hexnewbie: they already said it didn't work with a new user.
3945 [21:19:58] <rawf> hexnewbie: I've tried running chromium as a fresh user, not changes
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3947 [21:20:12] <asulil> somiaj: I can't I am using windoz now
3948 [21:20:15] <somiaj> WangDang_: check the firmware you have installed correctly matches your kernel.
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3951 [21:20:44] <hexnewbie> rawf: Yeah, I meant to try that after updating certificate symlinks with update-ca-certificates - which shouldn't really do anything, as it's triggered by packages that install certificates, but nonetheless
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3961 [21:21:18] <asulil> somiaj: I can boot on live ubuntu cd but I wonder if I can install GUI from there on my debian partition
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3963 [21:21:36] <WangDang_> somiaj: I know how to check which kernel I'm running, how do I check the firmware to see if it matches?
3964 [21:22:27] <asulil> somiaj: I loooked on firmware file is empty
3965 [21:22:45] <rawf> hexnewbie: tried it again, no changes
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3974 [21:23:34] <hexnewbie> rawf: There's an Ubuntu bug on this issue, and there are several workarounds: replaced-url
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3976 [21:23:50] <hexnewbie> I have no idea why I'm not hitting that on Debian, since if I'm reading the comments properly I should
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3978 [21:24:31] <asulil> WangDang_: do you know how can I do from live ubuntu cd?
3979 [21:24:53] <rawf> hexnewbie: I feel like I'm the only one :'(
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3984 [21:25:17] <asulil> somiaj: how long it takes to install gui with ethernet cable?
3985 [21:25:19] <unborn> rawf: replaced-url
3986 [21:25:28] <greycat> Ask #ubuntu about installing Ubuntu. We don't support Ubuntu here.
3987 [21:25:29] <rawf> unborn: I'm not interested in rigging my clock
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3989 [21:25:45] <rawf> so many things would get messed up because of that
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3991 [21:25:50] <WangDang_> asulil: no, sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu's cd install options
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3993 [21:25:59] <unborn> rawf: so use another browser.. it is the suggestion from link you posted
3994 [21:26:06] <rawf> hexnewbie: I agree. From what I've read, this is a bug upstream in chromium.
3995 [21:26:17] <rawf> hexnewbie: and should be affecting everyone
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3997 [21:26:40] <rawf> unborn: great advice man. That really solves the problem.
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4002 [21:27:43] <asulil> WangDang: If I can do it with with debian live cd it would be the same.
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4005 [21:28:07] <somiaj> asulil: depends on your network connection. But I would say with a standard boradband connenction and a decent speed computer about 10-15mins
4006 [21:28:17] <WangDang_> ops! I'm getting tons of DMs about someone being a pedophile since I joined this channel. Can you stop it?
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4008 [21:28:26] <somiaj> asulil: internet speed (download time) and cpu speed/disk speed (install time) can change this
4009 [21:28:29] <Shadur> /mode WangDang_ +g
4010 [21:28:31] <hexnewbie> rawf: There should be a patch somewhere in the Ubuntu bug, but the interface confuses me. It might be possible to add that to chromium's Debian source and rebuild (after inspecting it, of course :) )
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4013 [21:28:53] <asulil> somiaj: ok thanks
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4015 [21:29:05] <unborn> somiaj: I had about 200 pms last night.. just done /mode mynick +R and it stopped completely
4016 [21:29:06] <Shadur> WangDang_: One of the Freenode opers pissed off the clown brigades over at ED. This is the result.
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4020 [21:29:20] <rawf> hexnewbie: I just don't understand why I'm the only one here with the problem
4021 [21:29:26] <McLive> what does +R do?
4022 [21:29:27] <unborn> i mean WangDang_ (sorry somiaj )
4023 [21:29:35] <SPF> unborn: thanks, I also set +R
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4026 [21:30:07] <somiaj> unborn: yup, just point people at /topic
4027 [21:30:11] <WangDang_> Shadur, unborn: thanks
4028 [21:30:18] <asulil> greycat: if you have something against ubuntu. It's your problem.
4029 [21:30:29] <greycat> asulil: Try again.
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4033 [21:31:00] <asulil> greycat: sorry?
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4035 [21:31:11] <greycat> Ubuntu is not supported here. Flame me at your peril.
4036 [21:32:09] <asulil> greycat: are you harassing me?
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4038 [21:32:14] <hexnewbie> rawf: I didn't quite read the whole story, but it sounds like it's triggered by specific circumstances, because of some kind of security rule(s) that's chromium-specific (hence the suggestion to set time back, open the site with offending certificate, then set the time forward again).
4039 [21:32:14] <ayypot> asulil: This is a place where you have to be unneedingly smug about plain Debian only.
4040 [21:32:23] <greycat> You are harassing ME. This is your final warning. Stop.
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4042 [21:32:52] <rawf> hexnewbie: I don't see how that could change anything, since I've tried removing all chromium related files.
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4044 [21:33:12] <ayypot> asulil: Try #ubuntu. Their people are more friendly :)
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4050 [21:33:30] <unborn> lol ^^^ you kidding
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4052 [21:33:40] <unborn> good luck there
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4054 [21:34:00] <asulil> greycat: no I don't. you are harassing me. be respectfull please.
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4084 [21:40:44] <jhutchins> greycat: +
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4089 [21:41:41] <jhutchins> rawf: I do have the same problem.
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4092 [21:42:00] <jhutchins> rawf: It's supposedly fixed upstream, so if they backport 54 or 55 (just out) we'll be ok.
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4096 [21:42:45] <hexnewbie> rawf: Basically, Symantec issues rogue certificates 187 times, so Chromium is requiring Certificate Transparency for Symantec (‘only trust symantec when confident’), Amazon uses Symantec, but the CT logs have a timebomb which causes the ‘confidence’ to self-destruct - you can set the time back (and forward again), you can CT them for Amazon, you can import the specific CA, or test this patch: replaced-url
4097 [21:42:45] <hexnewbie> /+/ec8e431e9a0f80ace76368ce7edce006f3d409f2
4098 [21:42:49] <rawf> jhutchins: I'm glad I'm not alone in here. I've been hoping for 54 to be backported. idk what the status is, but I had expected it to come out a long time ago
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4100 [21:43:10] <hexnewbie> s/can CT/disable CT/
4101 [21:43:44] <hexnewbie> I still have zero idea how CT is supposed to work, though :)
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4104 [21:44:39] <jhutchins> rawf: It's basically made my bank's website unusable in chromium.
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4106 [21:44:55] <rawf> jhutchins: usps and amazon are my main pitfalls.
4107 [21:45:04] * jhutchins recommonds /mode $me +g to all.
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4117 [21:47:15] <rawf> thank you all for the help. Unfortunately I gotta run!
4118 [21:47:16] <jhutchins> rawf: Strangely I haven't seen it on amazon, but maybe I haven't use the jessie box for them.
4119 [21:47:35] <unborn> jhutchins: just out of interest what +g mode does exactly? coz that last night did not worked for me, I had to setup +R
4120 [21:48:00] <jhutchins> rawf: I was able to find some tips on disabling it with something like certificate transparency disable.
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4122 [21:48:19] <hexnewbie> rawf: Even though you and I are on the same version of Debian, with same versions of Chromium, my system trusts Symantec, because it has accumulated certain rules in ~/.config/chromium/CertificateTransparency/232/_platform_specific/all/sths (or something)
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4126 [21:51:04] <jhutchins> hexnewbie: Doing it site-by-site is tediouos.
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4130 [21:52:30] <unborn> ah I see now :)
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4134 [21:54:20] <Zathras> there is some wanker here who scripts like crazy.
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4136 [21:54:42] <hexnewbie> Zathras: /topic
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4138 [21:54:55] <ewew> Hi. Is there a reason for logrotate not start rsyslog with systemd ?
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4144 [21:55:36] <hexnewbie> ewew: Not start?
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4146 [21:55:40] <Zathras> hexnewbie, yes, but I do not want to be queried by bots. And this is what happens atm when I connect to this channel
4147 [21:55:49] <greycat> Zathras: /TOPIC
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4149 [21:56:29] <Zathras> ah. sorry. thanks
4150 [21:56:54] <ewew> the rotation is done by postrotate. first i use /bin/kill ${cat /run/rsyslog.pid. for start systemctl start rsyslog
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4153 [21:57:12] <Zathras> nasty
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4156 [21:57:21] <Roland-> this is prove that nobody really reads the topic
4157 [21:57:22] <Roland-> :))
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4161 [21:57:48] <Roland-> I would of saved a few bytes from my ssd (ignore list)
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4163 [21:58:02] <wonderworld> my brain is not capable of understanding regexps
4164 [21:58:10] <Zathras> I guess a drawback of the topic is in this case the length.
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4166 [21:58:27] <Zathras> it does not show in my irc reader. Only the first line does
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4168 [21:58:30] <wonderworld> syntax looks like aliens invented it
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4170 [21:58:40] <hexnewbie> ewew: The rsyslog logrotate rules in Jessie simply runs ‘invoke-rc.d rsyslog rotate’, which works, and doesn't go through systemd.
4171 [21:58:41] <lord_rob> What does /umode +R do ? no privs allowed ? Only registered users ?
4172 [21:58:42] <Zathras> euh, last line
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4174 [21:59:10] <greycat> /quote help umode
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4176 [21:59:30] <unborn> lord_rob: basically only users who have registered nich with nicserv can send you pm.. spambots usually not
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4182 [22:00:21] <wonderworld> i am being spamed as well
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4184 [22:00:36] <ewew> hexnewbie you say that im using it wrongly ?
4185 [22:00:56] <unborn> lord_rob: basically it will reduce massively noise which comes on channels regards the pm.. if you set that mode on, only users who are registered would be able to pm you
4186 [22:01:08] <hexnewbie> ewew: I'm only saying it should work out of the box
4187 [22:01:19] <greycat> Or you could use /quote help umode
4188 [22:01:26] <ewew> ok. just asking.
4189 [22:01:37] <lord_rob> unborn: I see thanks
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4192 [22:02:18] <lord_rob> is the chan +R?
4193 [22:02:38] <hexnewbie> ewew: Can you post your /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog to replaced-url
4194 [22:02:40] <greycat> lord_rob: /topic
4195 [22:03:17] <unborn> lord_rob: /mode yournick +R
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4199 [22:03:43] <ewew> replaced-url
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4203 [22:04:10] <Solvaring> All of the DL links on debian.org are broken :(
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4205 [22:04:23] <Solvaring> Can anyone give me a working magnet link for the latest stable version of Debian?
4206 [22:04:27] <Solvaring> Please?
4207 [22:04:27] <lord_rob> none of those commands show me the chan mode
4208 [22:04:44] <ewew> im using two rsyslog instances. one is run as root and the second for other files.
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4210 [22:05:06] <unborn> Solvaring: which one you want? net install, gnome? nonfree?
4211 [22:05:19] <ewew> if run with -f it works.
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4214 [22:05:33] <Solvaring> net install please
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4216 [22:05:51] <unborn> Solvaring: replaced-url
4217 [22:05:52] <greycat> !netinst
4218 [22:05:53] <dpkg> i heard netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See replaced-url
4219 [22:06:04] <Solvaring> unborn, what is nonfree? I assume the gnome version comes with gnome desktop environ already installed?
4220 [22:06:08] <Solvaring> Thank you so much :D
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4226 [22:06:18] <unborn> !nonfree
4227 [22:06:18] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see replaced-url
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4229 [22:06:26] <hexnewbie> ewew: You created a new systemd service for a second instance of rsyslog, one without an init script, and you're creating logrotate rules for it?
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4231 [22:06:34] <lord_rob> I got chanmode with /cycle
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4234 [22:07:07] <jhutchins> oftc doesn't have R, just g.
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4236 [22:07:34] <unborn> Solvaring: well... it seems to me that somehow downloading does not start.. you may try it a bit later, possibly. Im sorry.
4237 [22:07:51] <Solvaring> yeah, all links are brokededed
4238 [22:07:53] <Solvaring> :(
4239 [22:07:56] <ewew> hexnewbie yes.
4240 [22:08:18] <unborn> Solvaring: you can always do torrent: replaced-url
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4243 [22:08:29] <ewew> i also made separate status file for logrotate
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4246 [22:08:34] <hexnewbie> ewew: You need to send -HUP to your rsyslog instance. I don't know how to do that with systemd, but if you have a pid file, ‘/bin/kill -HUP $(cat /run/rsyslogsec.pid)’ ought to work
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4250 [22:08:52] <jhutchins> !mirrors
4251 [22:08:53] <dpkg> The best mirror for most users is <deb.debian.org>; other mirrors are listed at replaced-url
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4253 [22:09:01] <unborn> meh torrent does not work as well.
4254 [22:09:07] <ewew> but it does not. dont know why.
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4258 [22:09:42] <Solvaring> yep, none of the download links work, not a single one, i've been going through debian.org trying them all
4259 [22:09:49] <jhutchins> ewew: The default installation has always worked for me.
4260 [22:09:49] <hexnewbie> ewew: Your example is not with -HUP , though
4261 [22:09:51] <Solvaring> All the ones for my cpu architecture anyway
4262 [22:10:04] <jhutchins> ewew: What release are you on?
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4266 [22:10:30] <ewew> the odd thing is that the non root instance works.
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4274 [22:12:03] <Zathras> ewew, why do you want to have 2 logging mechanisms?
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4280 [22:12:53] <TomTomTosch> Solvaring: Canadian mirror to the rescue! ftp://debian.mirror.iweb.ca/debian-cd/8.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/
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4282 [22:13:16] <hexnewbie> ewew: Zathras has a point. One rsyslog instance is usually enough, even for multiple chroots
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4286 [22:13:56] <Zathras> if you want to differentiate on logging probably Logstash would be a better idea
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4294 [22:15:57] <mentax|home> hi all
4295 [22:16:04] <AlexLikeRock> hi
4296 [22:16:05] <mentax|home> Have question
4297 [22:16:10] <AlexLikeRock> !ask
4298 [22:16:11] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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4301 [22:17:11] <WangDang_> somiaj: my firmware kernel module matches the kernel. Is there any other reason you can think why wlan0 fails to become ready and stays down?
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4303 [22:17:26] <WangDang_> or anyone else for that matter
4304 [22:17:52] <lord_rob> linux-image-nonfree missing?
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4307 [22:18:06] <lord_rob> did you install that package?
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4311 [22:18:27] <lord_rob> erm linux-module-nonfree
4312 [22:18:31] <WangDang_> lord_rob: are you asking me?
4313 [22:18:35] <greycat> You mean firmware-linux-nonfree
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4318 [22:19:25] <TheChubu> hi! i have an issue with a ralink 3070 usb wifi adapter
4319 [22:19:45] <petn-randall> hi TheChubu, what issue are you having?
4320 [22:19:46] <mentax|home> I have a problem, directory have owner permission - drwxrwxr-x 13 yu dba, As root I create a file inside this directory. This file have -rw-r--r-- 1 root root permissions. When owner of directory edit this file, this file change user owner to -rw-r--r-- 1 yu dba
4321 [22:20:06] <TheChubu> installing the firmware-misc-nonfree package manages to make the system recognise it, but i cant connect to a wpa2 network : /
4322 [22:20:06] <lord_rob> WangDang_: yes but I'm wrong
4323 [22:20:22] <mentax|home> And owner can edit it =( Any chanse to prevent it ?
4324 [22:20:25] <greycat> mentax|home: that means the editor is removing the old file and creating a new one. Instead of just opening the existing one for write, which he can't do anyway.
4325 [22:20:27] <unborn> does ftp-master.debian.org/git/archvsync.git will clone whole repository or ? anyone know?
4326 [22:20:47] <Solvaring> what's the difference between iso-cd and iso-dvd
4327 [22:20:51] <greycat> mentax|home: write perms on a DIRECOTY means you can REMOVE or RENAME any file therein, unless the directory is also STICKY.
4328 [22:20:52] <Solvaring> there is a huge size difference
4329 [22:21:19] <lord_rob> WangDang_: firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree both need to be installed
4330 [22:21:21] <TomTomTosch> doesn't the name give it away?
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4332 [22:21:58] <Solvaring> one is for use on a cd the other a dvd
4333 [22:22:09] <Solvaring> but if i get the smaller one am i missing out on some optional data?
4334 [22:22:11] <WangDang_> lord_rob: thing is, I can't install anything at the moment because I can't get wlan0 up :(
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4337 [22:22:57] <TheChubu> lord_rob: lol maybe coincidentally that has something to do with my issue
4338 [22:23:04] <lord_rob> don't you have a wired ethernet ?
4339 [22:23:12] <TomTomTosch> Solvaring: yes, which doesn't matter if you have a working internet connection during installation. the installer can fetch everything it needs from the internet.
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4341 [22:23:24] <Solvaring> ok cool :D
4342 [22:23:25] <lord_rob> WangDang_: don't you have a wired ethernet ?
4343 [22:23:28] <Solvaring> Thank you
4344 [22:23:29] <petn-randall> Solvaring: Yes, but the total volume of all images of one set should still amount to around 55 GB.
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4349 [22:25:10] <WangDang_> wlan0 worked under jessie. After installing jessie, I immediately rebooted, then pointed apt at stretch and did an upgrade and a reboot. wlan0 still working. Then I did a dist-upgrade and another reboot. That's when wlan0 started giving me problems.
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4354 [22:25:41] <WangDang_> lord_rob: nope, no eth. I could install a card, but at the moment, no eth
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4356 [22:25:48] <mentax|home> greycat: this is the same file, I ddi a test myself, and I did not recreate it, just open in vim and change file. Save it as :wq! and it allow me to do it =(
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4361 [22:26:09] <greycat> It has the same inode number? What inode number did it have before, and what inode number now?
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4369 [22:28:24] <somiaj> WangDang_: check rfkill, maybe you have a kill switch
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4380 [22:30:12] <mentax|home> greycat: same inode
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4385 [22:30:55] <greycat> mentax|home: Well, it's possible that the file is unlinked first, then immediately created, and therefore has the same inode number. Very hard to disprove that. :(
4386 [22:31:05] <mentax|home> greycat: $ ls -i /yumis/dba/security/user_commands
4387 [22:31:05] <mentax|home> 6062157 /yumis/dba/security/user_commands
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4389 [22:31:14] <WangDang_> somiaj: no hw kill switch
4390 [22:31:20] <greycat> In any case, if you want to STOP people from pwning other people's files in a group-writable directory, you must make the directory sticky.
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4392 [22:31:33] <greycat> Just like /tmp and /var/tmp are.
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4400 [22:33:23] <TheChubu> sigh, still wont work
4401 [22:33:44] <TheChubu> its weird, dmesg says the wifi gets renamed from wlan0 to wlx[mac_address]
4402 [22:33:59] <TheChubu> and the log says "authenticating with [router_mac]"
4403 [22:34:05] <lord_rob> WangDang_: then download the corresponding deb (firmware-linux-nonfree) for stretch (? or your distro) and manually install it
4404 [22:34:08] <TheChubu> "send auth to [router_mac]"
4405 [22:34:26] <TheChubu> then "authenticated", then it retries 3 times the same process
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4407 [22:34:47] <TheChubu> i dont get why it repeats after "authenticated"
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4411 [22:36:20] <RikuKawai> how can I identify the model of my wifi adapter so I know which firmware to install?
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4415 [22:37:28] <somiaj> RikuKawai: if it is a pci device, use lspci to get the chipset, or pciid
4416 [22:37:38] <greycat> lspci -nn
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4418 [22:37:49] <RikuKawai> didn't think of that *facepalm*
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4420 [22:38:25] <RikuKawai> I don't see it
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4423 [22:38:35] <TheChubu> lsusb?
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4426 [22:38:43] <WangDang_> lord_rob: simple enough solution. Annoyed I didn't think of it myself. That's why I don't get paid the big bucks
4427 [22:38:45] <RikuKawai> nope
4428 [22:38:54] <RikuKawai> anyway it's connected via mPCIe
4429 [22:39:06] <RikuKawai> maybe I already installed the firmware with firmware-linx-nonfreeu
4430 [22:39:22] <RikuKawai> but that wouldn't explain it vanishing
4431 [22:39:29] <RikuKawai> *nonfree
4432 [22:39:33] <TheChubu> dmesg | grep ieee80211
4433 [22:39:37] <somiaj> that fimware isn't for wifi cards, that install various firmware, mostly stuff for ati/amd cards
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4435 [22:39:51] <RikuKawai> how the heck did the u end up at the end of my sentence...
4436 [22:39:55] <somiaj> usually it is firmware-manufacture
4437 [22:40:06] <RikuKawai> I'll try firmware realtek
4438 [22:40:09] <TheChubu> it got replaced in stretch i believe
4439 [22:40:20] <TheChubu> firmware-ralink for example now is in firmware-misc-nonfree
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4442 [22:40:34] <TheChubu> ... which doesnt works for me -_-
4443 [22:40:37] <RikuKawai> I'm running a fresh install of 8.6
4444 [22:40:44] <RikuKawai> minimal installation
4445 [22:40:53] <somiaj> ,v firmware-ralink
4446 [22:40:54] <judd> Package: firmware-ralink on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43
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4451 [22:41:53] <somiaj> ahh seems some are added to that, I know the way the package things is always evoloving in debian-next.
4452 [22:41:55] <RikuKawai> ayy it shows in iwconfig now
4453 [22:41:59] <TheChubu> maybe its an issue with networkmanager -_-
4454 [22:42:05] <TheChubu> why it wont connect
4455 [22:42:32] <TheChubu> its as if the router is ignoring the damn wifi adapter
4456 [22:43:34] <TheChubu> ignoring ipv6 doesnt works either
4457 [22:44:16] <ewew> hexnewbie even if used with RELP ?
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4459 [22:44:41] <WangDang_> somiaj: I just understood (sort of) what rfkill is. I cat'ed /sys/devices/platform/soc\@01c00000/1c0f000.mmc/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0\:0001/mmc0\:0001\:1/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill0/state and got 1 as output. Does that mean the radio is enabled or disabled?
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4468 [22:46:41] <somiaj> WangDang_: unsure on the details, running rfkill should list all your intefaces and tell you if you have a hard or soft kill switch flipped
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4470 [22:47:36] <WangDang_> somiaj: ok, thanks
4471 [22:47:47] <jhutchins> WangDang_: rfkill list
4472 [22:48:17] <WangDang_> jhutchins: cool, thanks
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4483 [22:50:26] <jhutchins> RikuKawai: If it's not showing up in lspci, you should see an unidentified device. lspci -nn will give you the pciid for it, which you can use to track it down.
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4486 [22:50:51] <jhutchins> RikuKawai: In some cases, I know built-in nics sometimes show up as usb, you could try lsusb.
4487 [22:51:17] <TheChubu> hm, setting security to WPA2 TKIP doesnt works either
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4507 [22:56:24] <RikuKawai> jhutchins: you missed the part where I fixed it :P
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4509 [22:57:23] <x0g> Hello folks, after using #! & BunsenLabs for years I'm trying to install Debian on my main workstation. USB Live Install is having issues with my GPU (Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850]) and it doesn't recognize my Wi-Fi dongle at all.
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4511 [22:58:08] <RikuKawai> install debian first, install drivers/firmware second?
4512 [22:58:24] <missmbob> for a lot of things you can do it at the same time
4513 [22:58:27] <missmbob> !firmware iso
4514 [22:58:28] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
4515 [22:58:33] <x0g> I sorta need internet to so so?
4516 [22:58:36] <x0g> do*
4517 [22:58:44] <greycat> !usb live
4518 [22:58:45] <greycat> err
4519 [22:58:50] <greycat> !uefi live
4520 [22:58:50] <dpkg> Currently, UEFI support exists only in Debian's installation images. The accompanying live images do not have support for UEFI boot. <replaced-url
4521 [22:58:51] <RikuKawai> does this computer not have an ethernet port?
4522 [22:58:52] <x0g> Thanks missmbob !
4523 [22:59:22] <missmbob> x0g: and yeah, dont use live to install
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4526 [22:59:42] <x0g> Yeah, it seems that was a mistake
4527 [23:00:00] <RikuKawai> I usually use text mode expert install
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4530 [23:00:20] <x0g> Yeah, same but I was in a pinch as I do have to work tonight
4531 [23:01:23] <x0g> hmmm having issues connecting to replaced-url
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4536 [23:02:21] <x0g> Maybe this is a sign to just use BunsenLabs again and stop bothering you folks :D
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4545 [23:07:36] <TheChubu> maybe its a NetworkManager issue, hm
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4577 [23:17:10] <WangDang_> no kill switches activated on wlan0. Also, on identical hardware, but running jessie instead of stretch, I don't have either firmware-linux-free or -nonfree installed, and wlan0 doesn't present any problems
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4582 [23:19:23] <WangDang_> But, I have noticed this message repeated over and over in the logs: "NetworkManager[13667]: <warn> [1480874413.8299] device (wlan0): set-hw-addr: new MAC address FA:B6:D5:83:41:73 not successfully set (scanning)"
4583 [23:19:45] <WangDang_> why would NetworkManager being trying to change the MAC on wlan0?
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4593 [23:22:20] <DovahKiin> hi all
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4601 [23:23:04] <DovahKiin> is somebody can help me please
4602 [23:23:23] <centrx> You have not asked a question. Therefore, no one can help you.
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4605 [23:23:43] <DovahKiin> oh ok
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4607 [23:23:46] <DovahKiin> ^^
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4609 [23:24:20] <DovahKiin> my update on kali faild since i updated my os
4610 [23:25:01] <missmbob> !kali
4611 [23:25:02] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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4627 [23:30:18] <echosystm> hello
4628 [23:30:37] <echosystm> i need a repeatable way to make debian images on USB
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4630 [23:30:54] <echosystm> fully configured, so i can just plug them into computers and everything is set up
4631 [23:31:00] <echosystm> what's the best way to do that?
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4635 [23:31:41] <echosystm> sometimes i will need ot make changes, so running the installer against a usb drive and then saving the resulting image isn't an option
4636 [23:31:51] <echosystm> i dont want to have to do that every time
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4642 [23:33:33] <fajrilo> echosystm: i use a script for install and configure a few things
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4665 [23:46:41] <Richard_Cavell> Guys, I'm trying to get drivers for the Broadcom 4321 wireless chipset (on an iMac5,1). But it is impossible for me to have a wired Internet connection. So I can't download anything from within Debian. The Debian installer prompts me for the firmware on a USB stick containing the relevant file. Does anyone know how to obtain such a file?
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4667 [23:47:17] <echosystm> bro just go buy a $20 usb ethernet card and enjoy life
4668 [23:47:22] <echosystm> you're heading down a dark path
4669 [23:48:02] <AimHere> If the firmware is in a Debian package, you could download the .deb on a different device, transfer over with a USB stick or similar, and then install it with dpkg
4670 [23:48:13] <echosystm> yeah but what about the dependencies
4671 [23:48:18] <AimHere> But this one of the dark paths that echosystm is warning you about
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4674 [23:48:38] <AimHere> Download and install those too, the same way, though firmware .debs don't usually have any
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4676 [23:48:58] <echosystm> ok well if theres no dependencies it's not too bad then
4677 [23:49:09] <echosystm> if there is dependencies, fughed bout it
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4679 [23:51:00] <AimHere> Pfft, lightweight. I've done the manual dpkg dependency dance before, and lived to tell the tale
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4682 [23:51:35] <sussudio> Richard_Cavell: you just put the .deb in the root of the usb stick and when it asks for the firmware, you put the stick in and it does the rest automatically.
4683 [23:51:42] <echosystm> could you be bothered for $20 though?
4684 [23:51:48] <echosystm> i couldnt
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4686 [23:52:21] <Richard_Cavell> sussudio: Does the .deb contain the actual files or is it just a pointer to the Internet? I will have no Internet access at the time I do this
4687 [23:52:30] <Richard_Cavell> apt-get install firmware-b43-installer is the relevant command
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4695 [23:55:03] <sussudio> i did a 5 minute google search for it last time. there was a howto. i didn't install anything, like i said, just put the .deb in the usb stick root.
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4697 [23:55:16] <sweettea> anyone else getting spammed?
4698 [23:55:32] <missmbob> sweettea: see /topic
4699 [23:55:41] <Richard_Cavell> sweettea: type /umode +R
4700 [23:56:01] <sussudio> +R didn't work yesterday. still got spammed.
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4702 [23:56:18] <missmbob> sussudio: on oftc? they dont support +R
4703 [23:56:19] <sweettea> ty
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4705 [23:56:44] <sussudio> well, someone should change the topic then.
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4707 [23:56:57] <missmbob> this isn't oftc
4708 [23:57:07] <sussudio> it didn't work here either.
4709 [23:57:22] <nano_python> Richard_Cavell, You can place the .deb for firmware on the USB in the folder called "firmware" and it will install that firmware during installtion of the system.
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4711 [23:57:43] <Richard_Cavell> Looks to me like the .deb actually attempts to download and cut the relevant files, due to legal issues. replaced-url
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4713 [23:58:25] <yokisuci> Richard_Cavell: Having issues with non-free firmwares?
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4718 [23:59:05] <echosystm> do you guys reckon it is dangerous to run swapless on a system i'm using as a router?
4719 [23:59:11] <echosystm> all it runs is iptables and openvpn
4720 [23:59:33] <echosystm> it's using flash media, so i want to minimise writes
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4722 [23:59:58] <echosystm> oh 4gb ram btw
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