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1 [00:00:14] <gljoe> or perhaps a rock...depending on your translations of ancient literature
2 [00:00:18] <yokisuci> gljoe: gljoe Well i don't think anything about that tbh couse i don't know anything about the philosophers stone. But i sure know that's there no way for mankind to get eternal life, atleast not in this world. And if there was, i'm pretty sure that i would want it.
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5 [00:00:42] <yokisuci> that i wouldn't*
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7 [00:01:12] <gljoe> yokisuci...you would not treasure an eternity of days to spend with the one and only true love of your life
8 [00:01:17] <yokisuci> gljoe: anyway. Time is 00:00 here, so time for me to sleep. nighty night
9 [00:01:32] <yokisuci> gljoe: nopez i wouldn't.
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11 [00:01:57] <gljoe> yokisuci..well then maybe you have not found a true love worth keeping
12 [00:02:11] <gljoe> yet
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14 [00:02:50] <gljoe> or maybe you are not being fully honest with yourself
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18 [00:04:21] <gljoe> its funny how some people say we cant' think of a damn thing to say so we will just say....love is love
19 [00:05:37] <gljoe> and some believe that a few have experienced it in history...and it would still be love even if they called it agapi
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21 [00:06:31] <gljoe> or amoree
22 [00:06:51] <gljoe> etc
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40 [00:14:16] <gljoe> yokisuci..i hope you do find a love with living and striving for...something that you would be willing to treasure for eternity and beyond
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43 [00:14:53] <gljoe> yokisuci...but you might need to find the philosopher's stone to be able to achieve that
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45 [00:15:25] <gljoe> because philosophy is all about truth
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47 [00:15:59] <gljoe> at least according to myth
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50 [00:16:16] <centrx> Philo-sophy means love of wisdom
51 [00:16:21] <centrx> sophia
52 [00:16:51] <gljoe> centrx yes but wisdom to the ancients was to know of the truth.
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54 [00:17:26] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, please keep topics on technical questions about Debian in here… for fantasy and deep philosophy or whatever we have #debian-offtopic
55 [00:17:34] <gljoe> centrx at least according to myth.
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62 [00:18:55] <gljoe> gljoe...well the technical hurdles are still many and quite high..so many sound problems with debian makes me wonder if another 25 years will accomplish a decent sound/graphics environment
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65 [00:19:17] <gljoe> gljoe...but it does make some headway into the foray at this time
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70 [00:20:39] <gljoe> gljoe and technically i still cant set up a fortran or c++ loop that can count past infinity
71 [00:20:57] <gljoe> gljoe...so that is a major technical problem to me
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73 [00:21:13] <n4dir> troubles with debian kFreeBSD after i upgraded to jessie. May i ask bout it here?
74 [00:21:16] <gljoe> gljoe because so many believe that eternity is a very short time indeed
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77 [00:21:33] <centrx> n4dir: sure
78 [00:21:45] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, that didn't mean you're supposed to monologue on in here
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80 [00:22:03] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, there's also a dedicated channel on oftc for it, though
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82 [00:22:06] <n4dir> K, boot goes fast, i seem to see something it can't write to /run/network. After login, no connection
83 [00:22:11] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, kfreebsd
84 [00:22:12] <dpkg> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 are not official release architectures for Debian 8 "Jessie" due to quality concerns. replaced-url
85 [00:22:14] <gljoe> cutme...well they asked me to mention a technical issue with debian
86 [00:22:16] <n4dir> CutMeOwnThroat: I know, but you hardly get answers there
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89 [00:22:52] <gljoe> cutme...so i mentioned the technical problem with debian not supported a c,c++, or fortran loop that can count past infinity
90 [00:23:37] <CutMeOwnThroat> that is not a technical problem but gibberish… and much better suited for the offtopic channel
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93 [00:23:58] <gljoe> so people can find some quantitative support of the qualitative issue of beyond infinity
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95 [00:24:07] <n4dir> you mean me?
96 [00:24:26] <gljoe> and question if eternity really is a very short time indeed
97 [00:24:49] <gljoe> like only the first 10 minutes missing the rest of the entire hour
98 [00:25:12] <centrx> n4dir: He's talking to gljoe, you're question is fine, although probably not many people know about kfreebsd
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103 [00:25:54] <n4dir> i would be happy to know of the according logfile. Using wired, if it fails, i usually just do "dhclient eth0" and it works. No clue what log file i am looking for
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106 [00:26:14] <ompaul> start with syslog
107 [00:26:34] <ompaul> then grep the other log files for eth0
108 [00:26:48] <gljoe> cutme...you may not think quantitive support is beneficial...but then again would you want to take an overdose of arsenic because you did not understand things at a quantitative level
109 [00:26:58] <n4dir> thanks, ompaul
110 [00:27:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, ah, that was for me - yes, did not mean you. Your question is fine… time for me for bed
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115 [00:28:31] <gljoe> would you take 5 milligrams of aspirin or 50000 grams of aspirin because you don't think quantitative issues are important
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117 [00:29:14] <gljoe> gljoe...how then would you know which one is safer if life matters to you.
118 [00:29:14] <ompaul> I see someone is making the cardinal sin that ordinarily would be left alone.
119 [00:29:57] <gljoe> ompaul..is it a cardinal sin to protect and preserve life...since when
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121 [00:30:37] <gljoe> ompaul..i am a doctor and a doctor i will be...it has never changed in nearly 40 years....cardinal sin or not
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125 [00:31:10] <gljoe> ompaul...they will never force me to renounce my doctoral qualifications
126 [00:31:14] <ompaul> ah you didn't see the obvious mathematical truth I spoke to, some omega would be lost on you
127 [00:31:36] <posi> Really weird issue, this binary links fine in release but chokes on libgtkui stuff in debug mode. What's weird is libgtkui totally works in release and it would complain if itwasn't being linked in. I also see it on ldd
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131 [00:32:50] <gljoe> ompaul...like a say cardinal sin or not...for me to do my doctor thing...quantitive support is necessay so i don't recommend someone to take an overdose of harmful drugs and lose their life needlessly
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135 [00:33:20] <centrx> That would be unfortunate
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137 [00:34:25] <gljoe> ompaul...you may not think it matters whether you jump off a 15,000 foot height or a 3 foot height without a parachute because you don't think a quantitative assessment matters.
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139 [00:34:33] <ompaul> gljoe you want to count beyond infinity go ask Hilbert how that worked out for him, while you are there you might like a room in his hotel.
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143 [00:35:58] <gljoe> ompaul....well some people question whether eternity is a very short time indeed or whether an inifinity of objects is a very small amount indeed
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147 [00:36:46] <gljoe> ompaul...and the technical issue..is creating a fortran loop that can count past that infinity bitch to investigate this....
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149 [00:37:02] <centrx> Your mom is a fortran loop
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153 [00:37:47] <gljoe> ompaull...well can imagine how ignorant you would be if you only saw the first 10 minutes of an hour long speil of wisdom.
154 [00:38:04] <gljoe> can you imagine
155 [00:38:17] <ranix> gljoe: move to the offtopic channel
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157 [00:40:46] <gljoe> centrx...i think my mom was much more than a fortran loop...
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162 [00:42:34] <gljoe> centrx...for example consider the loop j = j + 2 from 1 to forever.
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164 [00:43:09] <gljoe> centrx...now how small is that infinity since you miss all the fractions.
165 [00:43:40] <gljoe> centrx...would you make technical problems censored on this channel
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169 [00:44:32] <centrx> There is no channel
170 [00:44:42] <gljoe> centrx...could an infinity or forever really be a short time indeed and miss the rest of the entire hour
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173 [00:46:21] <gljoe> centrx its just counting past the bitch that is the technical problem on debian
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175 [00:47:04] <gljoe> centrx...and that is part of why i say i believe my mom was much more than a fortran loop
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177 [00:47:25] <centrx> I'm sure she loved you very much, even when you did annoying things like this
178 [00:48:02] <gljoe> or a miniskirt to be lifted up ...or an angelic voice to sing songs of love ...or a delicate person that could feel a small green pea under 7 mattresses.
179 [00:48:20] <gljoe> centrx...much much more..than these
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184 [00:51:13] <gljoe> someone who cared about the pain Anne Frank had to suffer...and would not want any more women to be treated like that....and much much more even than that
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186 [00:53:47] <centrx> What if I told you that in your heart is the same evil that caused her pain?
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189 [00:55:00] <gljoe> centrx...i don't think that is the truth....because i did not murder innocent little girls like Anne Frank or even her just as important slightly older sister.
190 [00:55:30] <centrx> Have you ever hated someone?
191 [00:56:09] <gljoe> centrx...absolutely...i hate all these goddamn bastards that stole my wife and children and murdered my Indian wife.
192 [00:56:30] <centrx> And what would you do if you found them?
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194 [00:57:07] <gljoe> centrx...well now...how would i find my Indian wife after they murdered her in cold blood and tried to exterminate me several times
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198 [00:57:20] <centrx> If you found the people who murdered her
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201 [00:57:47] <gljoe> centrx...well there is a myth of Marshall James Anderson that might shed some light on that question
202 [00:58:08] <bazhang> this is way offtopic for here
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205 [00:58:35] <bazhang> debian has an offtopic channel you realize
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207 [00:58:46] <somiaj> gljoe: do you have an actual debian question if not please take the conversation elsewhere, though I woudl suggest /dev/null
208 [00:58:53] <gljoe> centrx...in short i hate thives,rapists, murderers, and people that try to tug on superman's cape and people that try to pull the mask off the old lone ranger
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211 [01:00:52] <gljoe> centrx...and this hate does not seek out and destroy innocent little girls like Anne Frank
212 [01:01:00] <gljoe> or my mom
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223 [01:04:14] <bazhang> thanks somiaj
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294 [01:55:28] <Howdy> Guys How do I know if xen-pciback is compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module
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304 [02:00:39] <n4dir> i would probably do something like "grep -i xen /boot/config" ?
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338 [02:19:37] <posi> replaced-url
339 [02:19:47] <posi> Getting a weird linking issue when linking debug version of chromium. Release works fine but debug gets: Above ^
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419 [03:02:18] <Xz> hi there, looking for fdisk on debian wheezy to inspect contents of .img disk image
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422 [03:02:31] <Xz> didn't find fdisk, is there anything else I could use?
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438 [03:11:37] <th0r> Xz I think fdisk resides in /sbin You need to run it as root
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475 [03:21:11] <Xz> th0r: good spot, you are right
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483 [03:22:51] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to figure out how to remap a bad sector on a disk, getting the LBA_of_first_error from smartmon tools how can i for a remap of that with dd? the drive does not have a partition
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496 [03:29:33] <Howdy> anybody here did PCI pass thru on jessie?
497 [03:29:40] <Howdy> Stuck on PCI Back...
498 [03:29:42] <Howdy> replaced-url
499 [03:30:39] <Howdy> modprobe pciback
500 [03:30:48] <Howdy> modprobe: FATAL: Module pciback not found
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570 [04:03:18] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm trying to install debian alongside OS X on my iMac. Where do I place GRUB or LILO? replaced-url
571 [04:04:13] <AlexLikeRock> GRUB its better
572 [04:04:16] <AlexLikeRock> Richard_Cavell,
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577 [04:05:15] <AlexLikeRock> LILO its abandoned
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696 [05:08:01] <AudaxNovus> I'm running a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B with latest stable Kali Linux release for ARM. System works fine, was installing metasploit for research project, which requires postgresql. Had to abort mid-install (hardware issue). Had a lot of trouble trying to completely clean postresql, seemed to have gotten rid of every package EXCEPT postgresql-common. Causes this crap, I ran a foolproof sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql\* to make sure it was all gone)
697 [05:08:13] <AudaxNovus> replaced-url
698 [05:08:20] <AudaxNovus> Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
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700 [05:09:35] <AlexLikeRock> do not use pastebin.com , not friendliy with GNU
701 [05:09:39] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus,
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703 [05:10:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock, would site would you like?
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711 [05:13:32] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock this better? replaced-url
712 [05:13:59] <AlexLikeRock> no
713 [05:14:27] <AlexLikeRock> || to paste use paste.debian.net ||
714 [05:14:34] <AlexLikeRock> paste.debian.net
715 [05:15:26] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock here you go! sorry replaced-url
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719 [05:17:13] <AlexLikeRock> try sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql-*
720 [05:17:54] <AlexLikeRock> they say
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722 [05:17:55] <AlexLikeRock> v
723 [05:17:58] <AlexLikeRock> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
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727 [05:19:12] <AudaxNovus> Okay I've done similar to the first one, I'll try autoremove
728 [05:19:42] <AudaxNovus> Could not get the lock (11: resource temporarily unavailable)
729 [05:19:49] <AudaxNovus> Unable to lock the admin dir
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731 [05:20:40] <AlexLikeRock> do you have synaptic open ? (closed please )
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733 [05:21:36] <josephine_> hello folks, I just installed flash, do I need to reboot?
734 [05:21:39] <AudaxNovus> No, I've not even started the GUI since it was last booted
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736 [05:21:51] <AudaxNovus> Installed flash, ripperoni josephine_
737 [05:22:02] <AlexLikeRock> josephine_, just reboot the browser , not the PC
738 [05:22:13] <josephine_> been there, did that, still have issues
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740 [05:22:37] <AlexLikeRock> yes, flash player ITS NOT FREE FOSTWARE
741 [05:22:51] <AlexLikeRock> alwys happen whit Flash player
742 [05:23:17] <AlexLikeRock> they eat my 100 % of my peformance of my laptop :-(
743 [05:23:26] <AlexLikeRock> i hate Flash player
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745 [05:23:46] <josephine_> Anyone else have flash player working?
746 [05:23:55] <AlexLikeRock> i
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769 [05:31:34] <josephine_> Hello all, I installed flash (yeah I know flash sucks) I need it for school stuff
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772 [05:32:04] <josephine_> I followed the debian install instructions, restarted my browser, but still get 'failed to load yadda yadda'
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779 [05:34:49] <josephine_> never mind, figured it out. Thanks anyways
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791 [05:39:10] <mrrtump> devops is unpleasant
792 [05:39:17] <mrrtump> can we fight it?
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794 [05:39:22] <mrrtump> java also needs to go
795 [05:39:33] <AudaxNovus> xd solid meme
796 [05:39:45] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism meme
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801 [05:42:34] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock did autoremove, it realized it had to uninstall postgresql-common
802 [05:42:40] <AudaxNovus> Then it spammed that same line again
803 [05:43:27] <AudaxNovus> the one about systemd-helper and head not found
804 [05:43:40] <AlexLikeRock> just forget postgresql-common
805 [05:43:48] <AudaxNovus> I can't though I need a proper install
806 [05:43:49] <AlexLikeRock> let it stay in you PC
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809 [05:43:51] <AudaxNovus> It
810 [05:44:02] <AudaxNovus> It's a dependency for a program I absolutely 100% require
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813 [05:45:08] <AlexLikeRock> you need remove ?
814 [05:45:24] <AudaxNovus> I need it 100% removed
815 [05:45:38] <AudaxNovus> To get a clean uninterrupted install this time
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818 [05:51:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock any suggstions?
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821 [05:51:36] <AlexLikeRock> yes,
822 [05:51:38] <AlexLikeRock> wait ...
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826 [05:53:29] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
827 [05:53:39] <AlexLikeRock> sudo dpkg --configure -a
828 [05:53:44] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get autoremove
829 [05:53:56] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
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831 [05:54:29] <AlexLikeRock> dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq postgresql-common
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835 [05:55:16] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus, dpkg --purge postgresql-common
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837 [05:55:49] <AlexLikeRock> apt-get -f install
838 [05:55:53] <AlexLikeRock> done
839 [05:56:05] <AlexLikeRock> tell me how you go :-)
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852 [06:05:22] <AudaxNovus> whjich ones holy crap
853 [06:05:24] <AudaxNovus> Am I doing
854 [06:05:42] <AlexLikeRock> lol
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856 [06:05:58] <AlexLikeRock> some times its hard to remove or Install pakages :-P
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858 [06:06:27] <AudaxNovus> I still get this same crap
859 [06:06:34] <AudaxNovus> About diversions to /usr/bin/pg_config
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861 [06:07:08] <AlexLikeRock> ???
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863 [06:07:13] <AlexLikeRock> paste please
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903 [06:23:25] <montreal> Hi guys
904 [06:23:46] <montreal> I have a problem and googling doesn't help
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906 [06:24:19] <Rusty1_> try yahoo
907 [06:24:19] <AlexLikeRock> !ask
908 [06:24:20] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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914 [06:25:27] <montreal> I was setting up nginx server and sudo start nginx says sudo: start: command not found
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916 [06:27:09] <Rusty1_> montreal: what version debian?
917 [06:27:14] <_10chik> Has anyone here had success in creating a boot drive that is recognized by recent macbooks, while simultaneously is able to be booted into from the Windows EFI bootloader?
918 [06:27:19] <montreal> jessie
919 [06:27:26] <_10chik> (Debian specifically)
920 [06:27:49] <Rusty1_> montreal: try: sudo service start nginx
921 [06:28:24] <AlexLikeRock> montreal, try service nginx start
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926 [06:31:51] <montreal> hmm, it works :)
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958 [06:57:12] <AlexLikeRock> very good montreal
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961 [06:58:25] <montreal> but still something wrong with my uwsgi configuration
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963 [06:59:00] <AlexLikeRock> i dont now about
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967 [07:00:34] <montreal> I'm using this tutorial. Everything was fine until the last step, where I was launching uswgi as daemon in emperor mode
968 [07:00:37] <montreal> replaced-url
969 [07:01:04] <daemon> I am always in empower mode :)
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973 [07:01:50] <montreal> lol :)
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986 [07:10:56] <plasmoduck> Does the following command make a bootable usb installer?
987 [07:11:01] <plasmoduck> sudo cp Downloads/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb1
988 [07:11:24] <plasmoduck> or is it just copying the image to the drive?
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995 [07:14:07] <plasmoduck> it seems so, but when I boot from the usb stick on my laptop, it's showing Intel(R) boot agent
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997 [07:14:35] <AlexLikeRock> change to LEGACY
998 [07:14:42] <plasmoduck> PXE-E53: No boot filename received
999 [07:14:44] <AlexLikeRock> go to BIOS SETTINGS
1000 [07:14:50] <AlexLikeRock> to change plasmoduck
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1002 [07:15:05] <plasmoduck> Exotomg omte; bppt agemt omsert system disk in drive and press any key
1003 [07:15:16] <AlexLikeRock> and change USB-HDD first
1004 [07:15:25] <plasmoduck> what am I changing?
1005 [07:15:35] <plasmoduck> change what to LEGACY?
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1009 [07:16:49] <plasmoduck> Its a Toshiba Portege R700
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1012 [07:19:03] <AlexLikeRock> plasmoduck, replaced-url
1013 [07:19:29] <AlexLikeRock> UEFI / BOOT mode : "LEGACY"
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1015 [07:21:53] <plasmoduck> I have nothing like that in my bios
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1026 [07:28:05] <plasmoduck> I select to boot from usb
1027 [07:28:12] <plasmoduck> and its doing it's thing
1028 [07:28:16] <plasmoduck> dhcp etct
1029 [07:28:20] <plasmoduck> then it exits
1030 [07:28:28] <plasmoduck> and asks for a system disk
1031 [07:28:29] <plasmoduck> wtf
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1036 [07:29:56] <plasmoduck> finally
1037 [07:30:01] <AlexLikeRock> cool
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1079 [07:49:19] <awal1> plasmoduck: btw, no root needed for cp that iso
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1107 [08:06:01] <k_sze[work]> Is there a way to tell when and why a deb package was installed?
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1111 [08:06:27] <k_sze[work]> e.g. some of my servers have libgeos-c1 installed, and I want to know what installed them (maybe as dependency).
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1113 [08:06:57] <nkuttler> k_sze[work]: aptitude why <pkg>
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1120 [08:12:08] <awal1> k_sze[work], apt-cache rdepends pkgname also may will help
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1124 [08:14:22] <k_sze[work]> awal1: that seems to show *all* dependents, even those that are not installed, correct?
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1126 [08:14:46] <awal1> k_sze[work], right
1127 [08:14:47] <k_sze[work]> I guess that's useful if I uninstalled a dependent and have not done autoremove yet.
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1129 [08:15:32] <awal1> rdepends just helps, as I said, aptitude why is more util in your case
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1134 [08:17:09] <k_sze[work]> Thanks for the tips. :)
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1172 [08:41:53] <nkuttler> um, is there something in debian than can play apple lossless audio files?
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1178 [08:43:33] <somiaj> nkuttler: have you tried anything yet? maybe mpv or vlc
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1181 [08:43:49] <frdrwn> /msg ChanServ TOPIC #debian
1182 [08:44:13] <somiaj> frdrwn: you can also just type /topic
1183 [08:44:34] <nkuttler> somiaj: i should have been more specific, using gstreamer.. yeah, mpv can play it :||
1184 [08:44:47] * nkuttler will just convert it to a proper format
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1187 [08:46:27] <frdrwn> somiaj: thanks
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1216 [09:05:07] <foul_owl> How do I get firefox save/open dialog, evince, et al to not use gnome 3 style windowing crap. My window manager is fluxbox and the windows are "stuck". xterm, vlc, etc work fine.
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1220 [09:07:18] <awal1> foul_owl: you may get what you want removing all gtk3 stuff
1221 [09:07:39] <awal1> + adwaita stuff
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1224 [09:08:09] <foul_owl> libwxgtk3.0 ?
1225 [09:08:47] <foul_owl> Hmm no...that tries to remove audacity also, that can't be right
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1229 [09:10:04] <awal1> not sure what gtk3 and gnome stuff you "should" remove exactly but what you describe is gtk3 / gnome related, as I minimally i understand all that
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1231 [09:11:01] <awal1> I dont know if you will get it since all your system/apps are interdependent
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1239 [09:12:49] <awal1> If not wrong, firefox doesn't have full support for gtk3, evince is built with gtk3, foul_owl
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1241 [09:13:17] <awal1> and gtk 3 = gnome
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1246 [09:14:57] <awal1> foul_owl, I dont know how to explain you technically what i want to tell you, but you may have an idea yet about what I wanted to tell you
1247 [09:16:01] <foul_owl> The issue is that I think gtk3 stuff is deps for a TON of software
1248 [09:16:06] <foul_owl> I just want to _disable_ it
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1250 [09:16:09] <foul_owl> Not remove
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1253 [09:16:35] <foul_owl> Ah I'll keep digging
1254 [09:16:37] <foul_owl> Thanks
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1256 [09:16:52] <awal1> vlc is built with qt , not gtk; even if it supports it
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1258 [09:18:02] <fernie> are you talking about csd in gtk3 ?
1259 [09:18:26] <awal1> I guess I'm not wrong about what I said about vlc :D :P
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1264 [09:20:05] <awal1> foul_owl: a few days ago I asked you about which theme are you using for your flux but you haven't answered
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1268 [09:21:32] <awal1> desktop theme, not fluxbox windows decoration theme
1269 [09:21:47] <awal1> a gtk2/3based one?
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1276 [09:26:38] <foul_owl> Ahhhhh
1277 [09:26:40] <foul_owl> Ok sorry
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1283 [09:27:55] <foul_owl> I don't know....how do I check that?
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1286 [09:28:17] <foul_owl> I'm not using like a "Desktop" addon ("desktop" in the windows sense of the word)
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1303 [09:38:44] <awal1> foul_owl: almost all the apps you use use gtk (2 or 3) toolkit, and maybe somes of theme qt. so I don't know how you can get out of gtk (2/3) stuff
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1314 [09:41:31] <awal1> install lxappearance pkg and choose a gtk2 based theme for your flux; you may kick off gtk3/gnome appearance for apps which, foul_owl doesn't depends on gtk3
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1317 [09:41:54] <foul_owl> Ooooo
1318 [09:41:57] <awal1> which doesn't... ^ :D
1319 [09:41:59] <foul_owl> Thank you!!! Let me try that!!!
1320 [09:43:01] <awal1> for sure apps that depends on gtk3 will still use gtk3 , such as evince :P
1321 [09:43:33] <foul_owl> Ah damn
1322 [09:43:39] <foul_owl> So basically there is no way to fix...ugh
1323 [09:43:43] <foul_owl> gtk3 is awful
1324 [09:43:59] <foul_owl> I have a multimonitor setup, and evince is stuck on the left monitor
1325 [09:44:04] <foul_owl> can't be resized or moved
1326 [09:44:31] <awal1> "no way to fix" ? not sure :P
1327 [09:44:49] <foul_owl> No way to fix evince
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1344 [09:53:26] <styler2go> Hi, i am trying to get sound output through hdmi. Any idea where i should start?
1345 [09:54:14] <frdrwn> using pavucontrol alsamixer set output
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1347 [09:54:43] <styler2go> Already tried those things
1348 [09:55:01] <styler2go> i also edited /etc/pulse/default.pa and set the default output device
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1494 [10:47:30] <atlasloewenherz> good day everyone!
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1534 [11:03:00] <Hijiri> Is Krita planned for inclusion in stretch?
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1537 [11:04:02] <Veni> hi!
1538 [11:04:05] <Hijiri> hi
1539 [11:04:31] <Trax> Hi all. I had installed in a virtual Machine the Debian 8 to test it a if everything its ok.. make a migration. The problem is.. that this Debian 8 VM sometimes... the router table appears empty. The Interface is not going down.. not unplugged the wire.. or whatever. Just the route table disappear.. and after several minutes... the route table appears correctly with all routes. Thats why..
1540 [11:04:31] <Trax> sometimes... The server lose conectivity. I checked all the logs.. and I don´t see anything that could cause this clearing in the router table.
1541 [11:04:45] <Trax> Does anybody manage a problem like this?
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1546 [11:07:16] <echosystm> if i debootstrap on a usb drive, how do i make it bootable?
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1548 [11:07:37] <echosystm> i know how to set up the fstab, but how do i get grub installed?
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1563 [11:15:07] <glitchfest> hello
1564 [11:15:13] <glitchfest> Anybody here?
1565 [11:15:27] <Hijiri> no
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1571 [11:16:45] <glitchfest> DAN
1572 [11:16:57] <glitchfest> Anybody here
1573 [11:16:59] <glitchfest> cmon
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1575 [11:17:32] <glitchfest> Hey
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1577 [11:17:36] <HJfFun> !ot
1578 [11:17:37] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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1580 [11:17:48] <glitchfest> hey
1581 [11:18:28] <Logg> !ask
1582 [11:18:28] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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1611 [11:31:40] <ficek> hello guys :)
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1617 [11:32:35] <atlasloewenherz> i have a quite weired network bridge problem, this is a system with xen and i have sevral PV domUs which works fine and some HVM domUs that works partially ( only two out of seven HVM domUs have a working VIF ) any idea how to debug this down?
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1648 [11:39:10] <_22decembre> Hello
1649 [11:39:24] <ficek> hi
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1652 [11:39:50] <_22decembre> I would like to know if anyone here knows a way to bond an eth and a wifi iface
1653 [11:40:07] <_22decembre> while the wifi is still managed by networkmanager
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1655 [11:41:15] <at0m> _22decembre: replaced-url
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1658 [11:42:19] <_22decembre> at0m: thanks. Have not seen this one page
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1661 [11:43:00] <Mahe> Hey guys. I got a problem with cpu scaling. My '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_driver' say 'intel_pstate'; '/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/max_perf_pct' is 50 and '/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo' is 1. Yet, '/proc/cpuinfo' frequently shows values of 2.6 GHz for each core under load - on my 1.8GHz i5 (ivy bridge) processor. Actually, it should never go higher than 900 MHz with those settings. I'm running jessie
1662 [11:43:00] <Mahe> with 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel. Any idea what could be wrong?
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1681 [11:51:04] <mrrtump> firmware-linux-nonfree
1682 [11:51:10] <mrrtump> amd or intel microcode package
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1737 [12:17:15] <deepbluv> how to fix this error: '[MhmdI.Mstfa@debian myfiles][bash][19:34:43]$ sdcc sdcc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [ROOT:MhmdI.Mstfa@debian New folder][19:24:43]# dpkg -i libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb dpkg: regarding libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb containing libstdc++6:i386: libstdc++6 breaks libboost-date-time1.55.0 libboost-date-time1.55.0:amd64 (version 1.5
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1742 [12:20:37] <mado> Hello everyone :) ...
1743 [12:21:22] <mado> I'm sorry but I'm a little lost right now. Can you please tell me what the difference between ISOs on -> replaced-url
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1750 [12:22:29] <azarus> Hey guys! When i try to do "xbacklight", it returns "No outputs have backlight property" even though i've used xbacklight on a different distro before.
1751 [12:22:39] <jelly> deepbluv: which debian release are you supposed to have installed?
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1755 [12:23:45] <mado> I'd like to install Debian 8.6 on my dad's computer ... and I thought since it's an older computer "mate" would be a good idea ... but "mate" can only be found on those iso-hybrids ... i'm a little confused though as to which one I can actually use now though ... on a usb pendrive and or CD/DVD
1756 [12:24:15] <introom> how to boot debian8.6 into text mode ?
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1759 [12:24:51] <jelly> deepbluv: pastebin the output of «ldd ./sdcc» and «echo "native: $(dpkg --print-architecture) multiarch: $(dpkg --print-foreign-architectures)"»
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1762 [12:26:01] <jelly> mado: first is the installer, second is the live image. They are not the same. Use the installer image to install stuff.
1763 [12:26:34] <converge> when I try to run skype, I get this error: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64, anyone knows why ?
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1765 [12:26:50] <deepbluv> jelly: sorry ,I don't have access to the machine right now
1766 [12:27:07] <jelly> deepbluv: no problem, ask again when you do
1767 [12:27:32] <jelly> converge: how did you install skype?
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1769 [12:27:58] <converge> jelly, im using deepin, just apt-get install skype
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1771 [12:28:12] <mado> gotcha, jelly ... thank you ... soooo -> replaced-url
1772 [12:28:27] <jelly> converge: ask the deepin people then, Debian does not come with a prepared repo for skype
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1779 [12:32:06] <jelly> mado: the installer does not come with anything preinstalled, installation is a process. Assuming you have (wired) internet connection available at install time, you can pick the desired desktop environment as a step in the process
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1781 [12:32:52] <jelly> mado: if you only have wireless on that machine, you may need to try the debian-installer image with non-free firmware
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1783 [12:32:59] <jelly> !firmware images
1784 [12:33:00] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
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1787 [12:33:25] <mado> i'm a little confused, jelly ... 1) yes, i do have a wired internet connection ... 2) i don't completely get which ISO then to download that lets me pick a desktop environment
1788 [12:33:41] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-CD-1.iso ... comes with GNOME
1789 [12:33:47] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso ... KDE
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1791 [12:33:54] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso ... LXDE
1792 [12:34:08] <jelly> mado: use the netinst one.
1793 [12:34:20] <jelly> mado: are you 100% sure you want a 32bit OS?
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1795 [12:34:36] <babilen> mado: All of them allow you to choose *any* desktop environment. The images simply differ in the packages that they contain (and that don't have to be downloaded again) and the pre-selected environment
1796 [12:35:05] <mado> uh! ... i overlooked that ... ha! :D ... yes, jelly ... for my dad's computer i need a 32bit version ... the computer he wants to use at the moment is at least 6 years old if not older
1797 [12:35:23] <jelly> 6 years old will probably be 64bit as well
1798 [12:35:38] <mado> maybe ... but he only has 2 gb of ram
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1800 [12:35:57] <frdrwn> i have 2 gb ram but 64 bit
1801 [12:37:00] <mado> my own computer is about 8 years old and close to failing completely ... i'm also using a 64 bit version ... but i thought that everything below 3gb should use 32bit? ... guess i'm wrong then? :)
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1804 [12:37:14] <jelly> mado: try the combined 32+64 bit image (the one on the main page replaced-url
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1807 [12:37:57] <jelly> that seems to be at replaced-url
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1811 [12:38:58] <jelly> it's possible to add specific 32bit support back into a 64bit installation, and it's also possible to do the opposite if hardware allows
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1815 [12:40:02] <mado> well jelly ... i'm still more or less new to the world of GNU Linux ... i'm not able to do that yet
1816 [12:40:03] <jelly> but installing a 32bit system on 64bit-capable hardware is maybe a suboptimal choice these days
1817 [12:40:15] <mado> but alright, jelly ... i'll be burning this ISO then
1818 [12:40:31] <mado> these days, maybe ... but don't forget it's an older computer :)
1819 [12:40:48] <jelly> if you have an extra usb stick you may use that and not have to burn anything
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1822 [12:41:37] <mado> yeah ... i'll use one for my own computer some time sooner or later ... so the ISO you showed me can be burned and used on a usb pen drive ... nice :)
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1824 [12:42:21] <jelly> my 2007 core2 desktop at work was 64bit-capable
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1833 [12:44:37] <mado> what tool on Windows would you suggest i should use when using the ISO you just showed me, jelly?
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1837 [12:45:57] <jelly> to overwrite a usb stick?
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1839 [12:45:59] <jelly> !win32diskimager
1840 [12:45:59] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
1841 [12:46:00] <babilen> dpkg: win32diskimager
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1845 [12:47:51] <mado> thank you ... i'll be right back
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1897 [13:14:21] <zer0mad_> new canadian is hot
1898 [13:14:22] <zer0mad_> :)
1899 [13:14:27] <zer0mad_> nice jackets
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1904 [13:16:14] <hellyeah> how to check which graphic driver i use?
1905 [13:16:49] <mrrtump> dont
1906 [13:16:52] <mrrtump> just relax
1907 [13:17:02] <hellyeah> why relax? :D
1908 [13:17:02] <mrrtump> learn some programming
1909 [13:17:06] <mrrtump> time better spent
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1913 [13:17:14] <hellyeah> i know some programming :D
1914 [13:17:15] <mrrtump> swi prolog is pretty cool
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1917 [13:17:33] <mrrtump> think you could clone craigslist or 4chan?
1918 [13:17:34] <hellyeah> prolog is logical programming language right
1919 [13:17:54] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism is best
1920 [13:18:00] <hellyeah> mrrtump: are you supporter of TRUMP?
1921 [13:18:00] <bazhang> mrrtump, thats so offtopic here
1922 [13:18:08] <mrrtump> of course
1923 [13:18:22] <bazhang> mrrtump, so please stop it
1924 [13:18:23] <hellyeah> so i understand why you are high like that :D
1925 [13:18:49] <hellyeah> okey i wanna know i am using free diver or propeorit driver
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1930 [13:20:42] <nikitasius> hi folks! can someone help with bash?
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1935 [13:20:52] <nikitasius> here is problem... replaced-url
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1958 [13:29:52] <dschense> Hi everybody. I have some problems with internet connection and static ip. with dhcp everything is working just fine, but after setting the ip static i can still ping the router and everything else in the network, but dont have internet connection. anybody who can help?
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1960 [13:30:25] <ImUs3r> how can i know that app is installed or not?
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1965 [13:31:30] <avian> nikitasius, something like this? replaced-url
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1978 [13:35:41] <icebrain> dschense: have you set the default gateway?
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1980 [13:36:19] <icebrain> dschense: also, DNS servers? can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
1981 [13:36:23] <dschense> yes, I did, but its still not working
1982 [13:36:39] <dschense> no, i cant ping anything outsite mit local network
1983 [13:37:17] <dschense> iface eth0 inet static
1984 [13:37:18] <dschense> address 192.168.178.201
1985 [13:37:18] <dschense> netmask 255.255.255.0
1986 [13:37:18] <dschense> gateway 192.168.178.1
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1989 [13:38:00] <dschense> sorry for flood. wanted to paste to pastebin. wrong window
1990 [13:38:02] <icebrain> dschense: that sounds fine. please paste the output of "route -n" and of the file /etc/resolv.conf
1991 [13:38:45] <dschense> 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
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1994 [13:38:57] <dschense> 192.168.178.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
1995 [13:39:31] <dschense> this was route -n
1996 [13:39:50] <dschense> and resolv.conf is: domain fritz.box search fritz.box nameserver 192.168.178.1
1997 [13:39:56] <dschense> seems legit for me.
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2010 [13:44:02] <dschense> icebrain: anything else I can look for?
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2012 [13:44:17] <icebrain> sorry not from the top of my head :|
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2023 [13:50:13] <Martiini> I'm thinking of repartitioning my drive ... is it ok to change gpt SSD drive to mbr and erase all windows partitions ... on my new lenovo bios there is uefi, gpt ..
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2029 [13:52:57] <helldorado> hi all
2030 [13:53:34] <helldorado> it's possible to backports for some packages with pkgsel un preseed
2031 [13:53:37] <jmp_> Martiini: rather not
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2075 [14:13:15] <fadavi> Hello there, i've some error/warning in dmesg output (Ubuntu 16.10): paste.ubuntu.com/23567596/ any idea? solution?
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2119 [14:34:41] <jim_carry> Any use debian on thinkpad 430?
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2155 [14:50:57] <automaton> hi, how do I know which files did a package install?
2156 [14:51:25] <automaton> without google I mean
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2167 [14:56:38] <_22decembre> automaton: why not going to see on packages.debian.org ?
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2169 [14:57:43] <automaton> _22decembre, nah
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2174 [14:58:45] <TomTomTosch> automaton: dpkg -L <pkg>
2175 [14:58:50] <hwbj> automaton why not try dpkg -L PACKAGENAME
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2180 [14:59:36] <automaton> thanks hwbj TomTomTosch
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2226 [15:19:49] <ImUs3r> what is shorten of dmesg?
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2230 [15:20:32] <jelly> ImUs3r: can you rephrase that question?
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2232 [15:21:22] <ImUs3r> what dmesg is shorted with?
2233 [15:21:53] <abrotman> What?
2234 [15:21:58] <abrotman> ImUs3r: try to phrase it differently
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2236 [15:22:37] <ImUs3r> dmesg is shorted word, what is it?
2237 [15:23:20] <tremon> dmesg isn't an abbreviation, if that's what you mean
2238 [15:24:32] <ImUs3r> tremon: disk message error send go?
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2241 [15:26:25] <ImUs3r> what is abbreviation of dmesg?
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2243 [15:26:49] <tremon> the freebsd manual page (replaced-url
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2247 [15:27:49] <jelly> ImUs3r: replaced-url
2248 [15:27:51] <ImUs3r> thanks tremon ;)
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2252 [15:30:02] <ImUs3r> ok jelly :)
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2271 [15:38:25] <david-e> I connect via ssh to a debian Jessie server and issue "shutdown -r now": the server reboots and the ssh client disconnects immediately - fine. If I use the ssh inside a virtual machine, server reboots but client does not disconnects: i have to press enter after a while to get it disconnected
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2347 [16:06:40] <deepbluv> I wanna install a packge that have libhid dependency.how to get libhid for jessie?
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2353 [16:08:32] <deepbluv> I also have difficulty in installig libstdc++.and dpkg wouldn't nstallit.what should I do?
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2377 [16:18:21] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese, then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :(
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2396 [16:24:25] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese, then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :( help me plz
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2401 [16:25:48] <setuid> Other than entity encoding (%40F), is there an easy way to support "replaced-url
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2404 [16:26:15] <setuid> ISTR there was a bracketed way of doing it, [user@host]:pass type of thing
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2427 [16:39:10] <n4dir> replaced-url
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2429 [16:39:37] <setuid> "Other than..." :)
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2432 [16:40:16] <greycat> If you already have a working solution, why are you asking?
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2434 [16:41:11] <setuid> greycat, Because I thought there was another way, tmtowtdi and all that. I'll bang on it a bit. I just don't recall the syntax.
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2436 [16:42:38] <introom> how to force debian to start with framebuffer disabled?
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2438 [16:42:57] <introom> setting "vga=normal nofb nomodeset text" in GRUB, still fails though.
2439 [16:43:17] <setuid> introom, is it doing uefi boot, high-res grub?
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2442 [16:43:52] <introom> setuid: high-res grub?
2443 [16:43:54] <introom> what's that?
2444 [16:44:17] <setuid> Like if you boot with a 4k screen, the grub text is 3840x2160, microscopic
2445 [16:44:57] <setuid> video=vesafb:off
2446 [16:45:06] <setuid> Try adding that
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2448 [16:45:33] <introom> the VM is run by qemu/kvm
2449 [16:45:42] <setuid> *nod*, ok... so try that
2450 [16:45:44] <introom> it's debian8.6
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2452 [16:45:58] <setuid> Which video card did you assign?
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2454 [16:46:19] <setuid> Cirrus?
2455 [16:46:30] <setuid> qxl? vga? vmvga?
2456 [16:46:44] <introom> setuid: didn't assign anything. sudo kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22
2457 [16:46:49] <introom> that's the command I run up the vm.
2458 [16:47:14] <introom> setuid: I am new to qemu/kvm. so dunno what video card is assigned.
2459 [16:47:26] <setuid> load up virt-manager and check
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2461 [16:47:55] <setuid> Or, just use -vga std
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2464 [16:48:10] <introom> setuid: it's on a server. no X installed. and I can only ssh into the server.
2465 [16:48:19] <introom> the server is running qemu/kvm.
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2467 [16:49:27] <setuid> Right, so use -vga std when building it
2468 [16:50:08] <setuid> vga=normal nofb nomodeset video=vesafb:off i915.modeset=0
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2470 [16:50:24] <introom> setuid: set that inside grub ?
2471 [16:50:36] <setuid> Yes, or in your boot line, whichever is easier
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2478 [16:53:29] <introom> setuid: I am still stuck in the screen: " 1024 x 768 Graphic mode"
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2480 [16:54:07] <Cryp71c> Using apt-get to install some stuff in an automated fashion, but one of the things actually opens up a graphical prompt for accepting the "license agreement" for which the -y flag does not auto-accept. This is a major hangup, is there anyway I can script around it?
2481 [16:54:19] <introom> the whole command I am using is: sudo kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22 -curses
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2483 [16:54:32] <introom> note the -curses, I've no X env around.
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2494 [16:57:48] <introom> but I can ssh into that vm. /var/log/syslog says, "Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48"
2495 [16:57:55] <introom> so framebuffer is still used.
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2497 [16:58:05] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else i need to do or why this is not working?
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2501 [16:58:45] <greycat> Figure out which package it's in on jessie.
2502 [16:58:52] <greycat> judd file gmp.h
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2504 [16:58:55] <judd> Search for gmp.h in jessie/amd64: liblrs-dev: usr/include/lrsgmp.h; libgmp-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h; libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libc6-dev: usr/include/netinet/igmp.h; linux-libc-dev: usr/include/linux/igmp.h; libisl-dev: usr/include/isl/val_gmp.h; libcgal-dev: usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; musl-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-
2505 [16:58:56] <judd> musl/netinet/igmp.h; libwireshark-dev: usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-igmp.h, usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-rgmp.h; linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common: usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/linux/igmp.h, usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/uapi/linux/igmp.h
2506 [16:59:40] <greycat> Bah. Don't know what syntax to use to help judd narrow it down.
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2513 [17:00:32] <greycat> Ah, this one works:
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2515 [17:00:37] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
2516 [17:00:40] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64: libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev: usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
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2519 [17:01:33] <ws2k3> i think im not following you greycat
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2524 [17:02:04] <greycat> The file is in package libgmp-dev (probably).
2525 [17:02:07] <greycat> So install that.
2526 [17:02:14] <ws2k3> greycat i already did
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2528 [17:02:29] <greycat> You said you installed it on WHEEZY, but that you are now using jessie. Make sure it's still installed.
2529 [17:02:31] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else i need to do or why this is not working? look in my question
2530 [17:02:56] <greycat> See? Still says "debian 8" and "wheezy" just as if you repeated that SAME FUCKING WORDS WITH NO MODIFICATIONS.
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2534 [17:03:42] <ws2k3> greycat i did repeat the same words with no modifications
2535 [17:03:47] <greycat> Then you suck.
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2537 [17:04:09] <ws2k3> greycat anyway i verified its installed on jessie and it is installed and still im getting the same error
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2541 [17:04:23] <greycat> Instead of repeating what we already saw, you could paste the line that proves you CURRENTLY, on THIS version of Debian, have the package installed.
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2543 [17:04:53] <ws2k3> greycat libgmp-dev is already the newest version. (jessie)
2544 [17:05:15] <greycat> *sigh* ok... then your build process probably needs to be configured to find it.
2545 [17:05:16] <ws2k3> i copyed it from my terminal do you desire i paste it anyway?
2546 [17:05:27] <greycat> That is pasting. This is pasting. You pasted.
2547 [17:05:38] <ws2k3> okay thx
2548 [17:05:44] <greycat> I would have gone with pasting the "ii" line from dpkg -l, but I guess this is acceptable.
2549 [17:06:12] <greycat> Figure out what you have to do to your thing-you-are-building to make it find the header. There might be a flag you have to pass to ./configure or something.
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2551 [17:06:20] <ws2k3> greycat ii libgmp-dev:amd64 2:6.0.0+dfsg-6 amd64
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2553 [17:06:23] <colo-work> you can _probably_ build PHP without the gmp library; did you check its configure script?
2554 [17:06:32] <greycat> Oh, it's php. God. No wonder.
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2557 [17:06:42] <ws2k3> greycat --with-gmp yes php
2558 [17:06:44] <colo-work> gmplib 6 is the latest major release of the library, so that should be fine
2559 [17:06:48] <greycat> I won't even ask why you are buliding upstream php instead of using the debian packages.
2560 [17:06:52] <colo-work> so issue --without-gmp
2561 [17:06:58] <colo-work> unless you are sure you need its features
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2564 [17:07:09] <colo-work> (unless you expect to do bignum arithmetic a lot, you probably don't)
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2568 [17:07:27] <l0llip0p> /quit
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2574 [17:08:22] <ws2k3> colo-work im sure i need its features
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2576 [17:08:40] <greycat> Then ask ##php what ./configure flag to use to tell it the LOCATION of the header file.
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2582 [17:08:55] <greycat> Or run ./configure --help again and read the output more thoroughly.
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2586 [17:09:20] <ws2k3> greycat i need --with-gmp=/PATH but then i need to find out where the gmp.h is in debian
2587 [17:09:27] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
2588 [17:09:30] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64: libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev: usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
2589 [17:09:32] <greycat> Ta da!
2590 [17:09:55] <colo-work> ws2k3, next time you want to find that out, run `dpkg -S gmp.h`
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2594 [17:11:51] <n4dir> not sure, but i seem to have just learned that "whereis" will tell you where is (say gmp)
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2596 [17:12:26] <greycat> Once it's installed on your system, there are several ways, including "locate".
2597 [17:13:08] <n4dir> which i usually use. "whereis" only got stuck as to me it was a funny name.
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2602 [17:14:49] <ws2k3> ln -s /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h /usr/include/gmp.h did the job
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2642 [17:35:53] <colo-work> hmmm, rsyslog from jessie-backports seems broken; depends on a package that doesn't exist (any more?)
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2652 [17:40:15] <centrx> looks like it
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2676 [17:49:24] <p53ud0nym> Hi, I'm getting an error running apt update in sid for "Err:3 replaced-url
2677 [17:49:48] <p53ud0nym> It returns "404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.250 80]". What's the issue?
2678 [17:49:51] <greycat> Sid's not supported here.
2679 [17:49:59] <greycat> Sid also has no security updates, duh.
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2683 [17:50:29] <p53ud0nym> :D
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2686 [17:51:04] <yann-kaelig> Hi
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2712 [17:56:04] <zh1> is there any way i can reverse a rm -rf ?
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2714 [17:56:18] <colo-work> restore from backups
2715 [17:56:26] <AlexLikeRock> hahahaha
2716 [17:56:32] <AlexLikeRock> zh1, nooooooooooooooooooooo
2717 [17:56:38] <AlexLikeRock> hahahahhah
2718 [17:56:41] <greycat> colo-work's answer is correct.
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2720 [17:56:58] <colo-work> if you don't have any, unmount the filesystem, and DO NOT TOUCH it. make a block-wise copy of the backing device, and see if you can use a filesystem-specific tool to get your data back, at least in part.
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2725 [17:57:29] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB? I tried putting it on sda4, but when it rebooted Debian wouldn't load. Here's my partition map: replaced-url
2726 [17:57:34] <greycat> mounting read-only is an acceptable substitute for unmounting, maybe
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2730 [17:59:14] <introom> setuid: qemu -vga virtio did the trick.
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2732 [17:59:32] <introom> thanks for reminding me qemu -vga std, unless the problem won't be solved.
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2751 [18:06:58] <setuid> mice
2752 [18:07:04] <setuid> er nice... should document that
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2767 [18:13:52] <setuid> introom, What difficulties was the fb causing for you?
2768 [18:14:01] <setuid> and how did you inject it into the boot args at provisioning time?
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2784 [18:21:14] <dinknukem3d> hey fuck you crooked nigger dick suckin jew sons of bitches that try to censor everyone...you thieving, lying, murdering, raping, pedaphile sons of bitches need to be brought to justice.
2785 [18:21:24] <setuid> sigh
2786 [18:21:39] * setuid wonders where he put the /report option
2787 [18:21:43] <Epakai> !ops dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
2788 [18:21:44] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: epakai complains about: dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
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2793 [18:23:44] <dinknukem3d> you motherfuckers need to pay for your fuckin crimes...you got something against pig farmers getting sick of feeding the rich fat pigs and desiring to protect little girls from monsters like you sons of bitches
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2796 [18:24:40] <dinknukem3d> you think laws should be broken and everyone should be allowed to kill little girls like Anne Frank and others
2797 [18:24:45] <teraflops> ./ignore add dinknukem3d
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2801 [18:26:00] <dinknukem3d> Marshall James Anderson doesnt think so....he would kill all the men that got in his way of saving a little girl
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2814 [18:30:23] <Iota> Happy Pizza Friday!
2815 [18:31:01] <dinknukem3d> you want to sit on your crooked asses and suck niggers dicks and do nothing about people kidnapping and murdering Anne Frank and many other innocent and helpless little girls
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2829 [18:35:48] <centrx> zh1: You could use an undeletion tool like extundelete or testdisk
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2832 [18:36:15] <centrx> zh1: Note that you should not continue to use the disk, except in read-only mode, or you risk permanent deletion of your files.
2833 [18:36:28] <centrx> zh1: (that is, until you are finished with undeleting)
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2850 [18:43:34] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB? I tried putting it on /dev/sda4, but when it rebooted Debian wouldn't load. Here's my partition map: replaced-url
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2857 [18:44:40] <converge> Richard_Cavell, are you using bootcamp ?
2858 [18:44:46] <Richard_Cavell> No Sir
2859 [18:44:52] <Richard_Cavell> Should I be?
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2862 [18:45:50] <converge> Richard_Cavell, yes, its the best way to do it
2863 [18:48:00] <Richard_Cavell> Even though I'm installing debian rather than Windows?
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2867 [18:49:44] <somiaj> Richard_Cavell: doesn't osx use efi? In this case wouldn't you want to put grub in the efi partition?
2868 [18:50:05] <Richard_Cavell> I don't want to bork my computer's ability to load OS X
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2875 [18:54:49] <Richard_Cavell> converge: So do I just pretend that I'm installing Windows 7? Please don't give me advice if you're not familiar with it.
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2886 [18:58:23] <converge> Richard_Cavell, I installed it without bootcamp, had a lot of problems, after I did it using bootcamp, had not errors, grub was installed correct with 0 errors. If you dont want advices, dont ask for it
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2898 [19:03:16] <yogiman-ws> Hello all, can anyone advise, according to the debian wiki if I create a USB installer stick and I want to include any non-free firmware I can place the required firmware files into the folder /firmware on the usb stick. OK seems simple enough, except for the fact that the USB stick is read only to both me as a user and to the root account, am I missing something here or is this a bit of a bug in the documentation?
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2900 [19:04:27] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: be careful the instructions are assuming you are installing from a cd.
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2902 [19:04:48] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: if installing from a usb you need to have the firmware on a seperate usb drive, it is kinda vague, but just use the firmware installer
2903 [19:04:51] <somiaj> !firmware images
2904 [19:04:52] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
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2906 [19:05:11] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well they don't appear to do so, but even if that were correct a CD would be read only too?
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2908 [19:05:30] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: no if you were on a CD, you would have the firmware on the root directory of an usb drive
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2911 [19:06:19] <greycat> Burned CDs (iso 9660 file systems) are most definitely read-only. That file system was never designed to support writes.
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2913 [19:06:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I thought about that, had a 2nd usb stick at hand fat32 with the firmware on the usb stick, it doesn't see the 2nd stick regardless of when the stick is inserted, i.e before boot or when it asks for the firmware
2914 [19:06:27] <somiaj> i.e. the firmware needs to be on a medium that is not the install medium (which means that even if you make a partition of the unused space on a usb drive and put it there, you have to manually copy it over)
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2917 [19:06:56] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: yea I've seen others have problems. It works if booting from a cd, it needs to be cleaned up as most people don't install from cds but from usb drives.
2918 [19:07:15] <somiaj> so your choices are 1) use the unoffical netinstall image with firmware installed
2919 [19:07:30] <somiaj> 2) manually copy the firmware to the correct place by hitting alt-f2 inside the installer and opening up a shell
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2921 [19:07:46] <yogiman-ws> ok somiaj thanks for the tip, think the documentation needs some work on this one ;)
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2924 [19:08:15] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I appreciate your help, hope I can return the favour sometime :) be well.
2925 [19:08:34] <somiaj> yea I think most just have learned how to deal with firmware. I think the installer needs to be fixed so it can use firmware from a second partiion on the installer usb or correctly scan other places
2926 [19:08:41] <somiaj> or better yet allow the user to specify the location of the firmware
2927 [19:08:56] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, sounds like a good idea to me
2928 [19:09:05] <somiaj> in this case I think manually copying the firmware to /target/lib/firmware will work
2929 [19:09:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, ok will give that a go, thanks again :)
2930 [19:09:35] <somiaj> or maybe /lib/firmware in the memeory filesystem and let the installer copy it over (its been so long since I have installed I forget the deatils)
2931 [19:10:33] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well yes same here, but last time I installed from CD and used mem stick for firmware. Thought I'd save a CD and some space in a landfill this time, should have known better.
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2933 [19:11:10] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, again thank you, will go and try that now.
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2958 [19:22:34] <Cryp71c> Trying to use debconf to set an installation parameter but I'm not doing something right. I need "msodbcsql msodbcsql/accept_eula select true" but I'm getting "debconf msodbcsql/accept_eula select true"
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2961 [19:23:36] <Cryp71c> Nevermind.
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2979 [19:32:59] <le_pig> Anyone aware of a preseed generator, like the kickstart configurator? I found a Google Code project called "phelper", but it's abandoned.
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2984 [19:35:10] <somiaj> le_pig: not really, I think the prefered method is take the example preseed and modify it to your needs.
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2987 [19:35:49] <le_pig> somiaj: I appreciate the reply. Looks like I've got a fun weekend project then. :)
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3001 [19:43:53] <zh1> centrx, i was using testdisk previously to recover some files
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3028 [19:53:03] <Hijiri> Why was krita included in jessie but isn't in stretch?
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3041 [19:58:58] <somiaj> Hijiri: looks like it hasn't been upgraded/matained since then and there was problably some bug thta removed it.
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3046 [19:59:36] <somiaj> ahh seems like the Calligra source changed, one second
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3052 [20:01:36] <somiaj> Hijiri: replaced-url
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3054 [20:01:42] <somiaj> or not it will be ready by that time.
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3057 [20:02:20] <Cryp71c> Trying to install something via apt-get that doesn't have any sources (msodbcsql) available; it has a eula that I'm trying to bypass by using debconf-set-selections, and I did that correctly but the eula still pops up.
3058 [20:02:31] <Cryp71c> Is there anyway to figure out what else its looking at which causes that eula to pop up?
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3060 [20:03:06] <somiaj> it could be a post/pre install script. Usually non-free software won't let you bypass its eula
3061 [20:03:53] <Cryp71c> This is free, but its preview software so I had to add a source manually.
3062 [20:03:53] <somiaj> I also do not see that package in debian, is this third party? if so I would direct questions about their package to the person who makes it, including if there is a way to automate the signing of the eula
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3065 [20:04:09] <somiaj> free as in DSFG free? shouldn't need a eula for that.
3066 [20:04:13] <Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] replaced-url
3067 [20:04:40] <Cryp71c> Here is MS's post about it on their blog (technical preview): replaced-url
3068 [20:05:00] <somiaj> so ask the creater of this software (appears non-free to me), we don't support thrid party software here.
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3070 [20:05:27] <Cryp71c> Already have, was just curious if there was a way to automate the agreement of the EULA so I can have it install via a script.
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3072 [20:05:48] <Cryp71c> I thought debconf-set-selections was what I needed, but indeed it is not.
3073 [20:05:50] <greycat> Run the script in a terminal so it can prompt the end user.
3074 [20:06:02] <Cryp71c> greycat, its part of a VM provisioning script (right in the middle)
3075 [20:06:14] <greycat> Let the end user comply with the license by typing stupid shit.
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3077 [20:06:23] <somiaj> it is more likely the post/pre install scripts requiring the prompt, not debconf, but anyways ask the person who created the package.
3078 [20:06:32] <Cryp71c> will do.
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3080 [20:07:01] <somiaj> if they just gave you the source -- oh wait non-free -- you could just look at it.
3081 [20:07:16] <jelly> Cryp71c: where are you getting this package from?
3082 [20:07:30] <greycat> 14:04 Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] replaced-url
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3084 [20:07:58] <jelly> and how are they significantly better than freetds drivers?
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3089 [20:09:44] <Cryp71c> jelly, I've attempted to use freetds a handful of times with enterprise php applications and have repeatedly run into issues with various functionality, transactions or insertion ids or other weird things; its been a year or so since I last gave it a try.
3090 [20:10:42] <jelly> we've been using freetds for more than 15 years now
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3094 [20:11:16] <mrrtump> debian is kicking ass
3095 [20:11:20] <mrrtump> Im liking it!
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3097 [20:11:25] <mrrtump> vlc freezes a bit
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3099 [20:11:33] <crash_> mpv to the rescue!
3100 [20:11:34] <jelly> but okay, php is often problematic, prefixed with "enterprise" doesn't make it better
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3102 [20:11:37] <mrrtump> abiword and chrome farked on testing here
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3104 [20:11:49] <jelly> mrrtump: are you using testing?
3105 [20:11:53] <mrrtump> yep
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3107 [20:12:04] <jelly> then if you have issues,
3108 [20:12:06] <Cryp71c> jelly, thanks, I appreciate it though
3109 [20:12:07] <mrrtump> archlinux is just too painful to install now
3110 [20:12:07] <jelly> !debian-next
3111 [20:12:08] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3113 [20:12:33] <mrrtump> i cant get into debian next
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3115 [20:12:41] <greycat> It's on OFTC.
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3117 [20:12:59] <jelly> different irc network
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3136 [20:19:01] <Howdy> hey guys..
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3138 [20:19:24] <Howdy> hey guys 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii XT [Radeon R9 290X] when I run this command my Debian Jessie frezzzzes
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3142 [20:19:43] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: what command? lspci?
3143 [20:19:56] <Howdy> oh +
3144 [20:20:15] <Howdy> input echo 0000:08:00.0 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:08:00.0/driver/unbind
3145 [20:20:19] <Howdy> but 08 is 04
3146 [20:20:29] <greycat> So... don't type that.
3147 [20:20:46] <Howdy> what I gotta type Gurus
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3150 [20:21:06] <greycat> Why did you type that? What did you expect it to do?
3151 [20:21:07] <SerajewelKS> that depends on what you're trying to do?
3152 [20:21:46] <Howdy> echo 0000:04:00.0 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:04:00.0/driver/unbind
3153 [20:21:50] <deup> hi everyone! happy friday!
3154 [20:22:03] <Howdy> unbind the VGA from Dom0 so I can assign it to DOMu
3155 [20:22:20] <boxrick1> How does bond-master in the interfaces differ to bond-slaves in the bond itself? Since one seems to work and the other not
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3157 [20:23:09] <jelly> boxrick1: they're two different things. What do you mean?
3158 [20:23:20] <zykotick9> greycat: <sidenote> your "So... don't type that." made me laugh out loud - thanks.
3159 [20:23:20] <boxrick1> That explains why then :)
3160 [20:23:35] <boxrick1> So how does bond-slaves work then ?
3161 [20:23:52] <Howdy> yo don't out loud laughing help this peon outr
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3163 [20:23:54] <Howdy> please
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3166 [20:24:22] <Howdy> my Debian Brothers & sisters
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3169 [20:24:53] <jelly> Howdy: rhetorics don't help much in here, try to keep to tech
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3173 [20:25:27] <Howdy> :-( Meanies
3174 [20:25:58] <deup> whats the best IDE for me to make interactive GUIs with debian?
3175 [20:26:05] <SerajewelKS> !best
3176 [20:26:06] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
3177 [20:26:11] <jelly> Howdy: if noone comments on your issue, it means they probably do not know so extra pleading does not help
3178 [20:26:11] <greycat> I asked dpkg what dom0 and domu are and he doesn't know either. Sorry.
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3182 [20:26:36] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: you might have better luck asking in a xen-specific channel
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3184 [20:26:59] <jelly> greycat: in Xen parlance, dom0 is the host (-ish) and domU is a guest (VM) or so
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3187 [20:27:36] <greycat> I swear, you guys invented this vm shit just because were bored one day with things just working and you needed some new breaking stuff to fix.
3188 [20:27:41] <Howdy> ok, already asked in XEN...
3189 [20:27:53] <boddax> hi got problem installing on mobo asus m5a99x efi grub install error
3190 [20:27:55] <jelly> greycat: and you're catching on that just now?
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3193 [20:28:21] <SerajewelKS> deup: to address your question, that depends on what programming languages you know. IDEs don't do everything for you.
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3196 [20:29:25] <SerajewelKS> deup: for example, if you know C# then you could use monodevelop with the integrated gtk# designer. there are options, and "best" is subjective.
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3199 [20:30:04] <boddax> changed alredy secure boot bios but no effects still remain grub install issue
3200 [20:30:44] <deup> SerajewelKS: I agree, this is partly a learning opportunity for myself as well, I'm decent with C#, C++, some python, but I'm also being given the opportunity to learn on this project. So any opinions would be greatly received
3201 [20:31:46] <bootstrapninja> sorry for the off topic -_- but.. anyone knows how I could get an invite for the ##security channel?
3202 [20:32:01] <SerajewelKS> deup: honestly the only GUI designers i've used on linux are glade (which is not an IDE, but only a GUI designer) and monodevelop
3203 [20:32:36] <SerajewelKS> deup: i like monodevelop, but it can be a tad buggy here and there, and it's a memory hog
3204 [20:32:59] <SerajewelKS> deup: most of my other GUI work is building web application GUIs, so i'm using html+javascript frameworks and not GUI designers
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3208 [20:33:50] <SerajewelKS> so basically, i don't have much breadth of experience with linux IDEs. but i would suggest looking at monodevelop at least, if the idea of C# on linux doesn't make you uncomfortable.
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3225 [20:34:47] <SerajewelKS> deup: note that glade is language-agnostic; you can use its products with any language that has glade bindings. which is most of them.
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3228 [20:34:58] <deup> cool, thanks for the tips
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3232 [20:35:59] <deup> anyone have experience with yocto over debian? I have a couple engineers saying to use yocto, and I honestly can't figure out a good reason to
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3234 [20:36:45] <SerajewelKS> yocto and debian are different things. debian is a distro, yocto is a distro-builder.
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3236 [20:37:34] <SerajewelKS> do you need to build your own distro for an embedded environment?
3237 [20:37:36] <deup> thats what I had read. which is what further confused me why the engineers wanted me to use it, when a perfectly good distro exists for rpi3
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3241 [20:38:13] <deup> we're using Rpi3s to do the sensor collections and database building
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3243 [20:38:22] <deup> that much is known, lol
3244 [20:38:52] <deup> but I can't figure out a good reason to build a custom embedded os for something that's only to be used in house to collect QA data
3245 [20:38:59] <SerajewelKS> is this GUI you're building going to run on the rpis?
3246 [20:39:17] <SerajewelKS> or is it going to run on a proper desktop and connect to the rpis?
3247 [20:39:17] <deup> I suppose, it could help... being that the eventual QA guyss, won't know how to use linux, and just need to see a fullscreen gui
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3250 [20:39:58] <deup> yea, the GUI should be full screened, no ability for the QA guys to do anything but the data collection and typing in some extra data
3251 [20:40:53] <deup> it's gotta connect to a ton of stuff, hence why the rpi3, from touch screen HIDs, to temp sensors
3252 [20:41:03] <SerajewelKS> then C# is probably not the best choice, considering how little ram you get on the rpi
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3255 [20:41:39] <deup> we were looking at qt5 in c++, with a python script or two running in the background for anything that qt sucks at doing
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3259 [20:42:34] <SerajewelKS> hope it goes well :) i have used C++ professionally, but not qt.
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3261 [20:42:44] <deup> me either :)
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3264 [20:42:58] <SerajewelKS> there are some things i really like about C++, and there's a lot of stuff i don't like. it's fun, but can be tedious.
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3266 [20:43:22] <deup> yeah, this isn't a video game, and should mostly be lowerlevel data collection, so I'm not expecting too much pain
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3289 [20:48:12] <jhutchins> greycat: You're thinking of containers.
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3299 [20:51:51] <nkuttler> eh, containers are fine
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3305 [20:53:20] <ksft-mobile> nmcli says I'm connected to a wifi network, but I can't connect to the internet
3306 [20:53:38] <ksft-mobile> some problem with a different network
3307 [20:53:42] <ksft-mobile> same*
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3319 [20:58:56] <deup> welp the guys in #yocto convinced me to use yocto to build, because my boss obviously has a hidden agenda for me using custom embedded linux builds in the future. but thanks SerajewelKS , I'll remember this advice anyhow, might still use it
3320 [20:59:16] <SerajewelKS> i don't even know what advice i gave heh
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3324 [20:59:46] <deup> hehe, conversation helps me a bunch
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3353 [21:07:58] <jhutchins> ksft-mobile: So trace the problem.
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3357 [21:08:26] <jhutchins> ksft-mobile: Do you have an IP address? Can you ping the router? Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
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3376 [21:14:14] <MaxBord> hellou
3377 [21:14:29] <MaxBord> do working dropbox on debian
3378 [21:14:34] <MaxBord> dropbox app
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3380 [21:14:36] <MaxBord> ?
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3382 [21:15:00] <ksft> jhutchins: `ifdown eth0` fixed it
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3384 [21:15:57] <jhutchins> ksft: Defaulting to a non-working wired connection?
3385 [21:16:07] <MaxBord> I try distros: Linux Mint, Ubuntu everything, fedora, slackware, solus, open suse..and many other linuxes
3386 [21:16:09] <ksft> what?
3387 [21:16:18] <MaxBord> debian is for me
3388 [21:16:23] <nchambers> MaxBord, what are you doing?
3389 [21:16:38] <MaxBord> i writing php code
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3391 [21:16:49] <MaxBord> something site
3392 [21:17:09] <MaxBord> but easy way
3393 [21:17:13] <MaxBord> for me
3394 [21:17:15] <ksft> I use a wired connection maybe half the time. I've sorta given up on getting my computer's built-in network card to work, and I'm using an external one.
3395 [21:17:19] <MaxBord> my site
3396 [21:17:59] <MaxBord> nchambers, who are you?
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3399 [21:18:11] <MaxBord> do we knows?
3400 [21:18:16] <jhutchins> MaxBord: There is a linux client for dropbox that should work in debian, it's not pre-packaged. There is a plugin for nautilus.
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3402 [21:18:53] <MaxBord> jhutchins, i know that, but dont see app icon in gnome panel on the top :)
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3405 [21:20:19] <MaxBord> i restarting deb and i think that is fork, in nautilus folder become folder with green arrow
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3407 [21:21:34] <MaxBord> but i dont know something
3408 [21:21:51] <MaxBord> way default notepad writer dont work
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3421 [21:24:45] <MaxBord> what is devuan? is bether debian or devuan?
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3423 [21:24:52] <greycat> !devuan
3424 [21:24:52] <dpkg> Devuan (replaced-url
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3460 [21:40:15] <ADubhlaoich> I think I may have accidentally removed all wifi packages when trying to remove connman
3461 [21:40:33] <greycat> Plug in the regular network cable and reinstall them.
3462 [21:40:50] <ADubhlaoich> I don't have access to ethernet
3463 [21:40:55] <ADubhlaoich> Using a separate laptop right now
3464 [21:41:11] <greycat> Not sure what you want us to tell you, then.
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3467 [21:41:50] <greycat> Downloading them from another system is going to be incredibly tedious.
3468 [21:42:02] <ADubhlaoich> Well - I guess, would downloading the packages and manually installing them via dpkg be a good plan of attack?
3469 [21:42:26] <greycat> I guess you could run apt-get with --print-uris or something on the damaged system, save that to a text file, copy the text file to the non-damaged system, download there, then copy over...
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3474 [21:44:35] <Ke> ffs. debian bts is a wall of text, is there somewhere a location where I can create account and report a bug
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3479 [21:45:36] <greycat> !bug
3480 [21:45:36] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, replaced-url
3481 [21:45:53] <greycat> You don't need an account. It's all done by email.
3482 [21:46:44] <jelly> well you need an email account somewhere!
3483 [21:47:01] <Ke> !
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3485 [21:47:32] <ADubhlaoich> Evidently I do still have wireless-tools but haven't got wicd nor networkmanager
3486 [21:47:43] <greycat> (or the ability to inject spam^H^H^H^Hemail into Debian's MTA)
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3500 [21:51:19] <jhutchins> ADubhlaoich: For several releases network-manager has been a much better tool for wifi.
3501 [21:52:19] <Ke> gggaaaah
3502 [21:52:28] <jhutchins> !apt offline
3503 [21:52:29] <dpkg> To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read replaced-url
3504 [21:52:31] <Ke> reportbug even needs to run on the same system
3505 [21:52:35] <ADubhlaoich> jhutchins: I'll grab the packages for it too
3506 [21:52:50] <greycat> Ke: why is this a problem for you?
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3508 [21:53:38] <jelly> Ke: you can just compose a text mail in any mail client, and copy/paste the stuff reportbug prepares
3509 [21:53:54] <jelly> a plain* text mail
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3511 [21:54:25] <jelly> you can also create the whole thing manually, taking care of some special pseudoheaders
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3513 [21:54:41] <greycat> I'd recommend letting reportbug dump the text file, though.
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3515 [21:54:47] <jelly> nod
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3517 [21:55:35] <jhutchins> MaxBord: Actually I was wrong earlier, there is a debian package fro dropbox provided on their site.
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3519 [21:55:54] <Ke> subject is the email subject I guess?
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3521 [21:56:09] <Ke> and the rest goes to email body
3522 [21:56:24] <dondelelcaro> Ke: yes. You're better off using reportbug, though.
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3525 [21:57:13] <Plushwolf> Hey everyone! :)
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3553 [22:07:46] <ADubhlaoich> Hurrah
3554 [22:07:50] <ADubhlaoich> My plan seems to have worked
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3560 [22:08:15] <Adolar> does anybody have a promo code for the oneplus 3t order? :D
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3563 [22:08:39] <jelly> only if you can install debian on it...
3564 [22:09:04] <Adolar> hehe
3565 [22:09:06] <ADubhlaoich> jhutchins: Were there any particular reasons NetworkManager is preferred over Wicd?
3566 [22:09:12] <Adolar> that should be no problem
3567 [22:09:34] <greycat> 1+3t sounds like first year algebra
3568 [22:09:42] <dondelelcaro> ADubhlaoich: in my experience, it supports more configurations by default; it's also the gnome default.
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3570 [22:10:36] <dondelelcaro> (it also seems to do things like automatically switching between wifi/ethernet/bt/carrier pigeon properly, which wicd and ifupdown don't do particularly well)
3571 [22:10:56] <ADubhlaoich> Hmm
3572 [22:11:09] <ADubhlaoich> I'll take a look at it when I'm back on my normal machine
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3575 [22:11:41] <dondelelcaro> (if this is a machine that only is ever plugged into wireless or one network, and doesn't travel, it's probably overkill)
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3577 [22:11:50] <ADubhlaoich> I was taking a cursory glance at connman as a suggestion from someone when I mentioned I was trying out i3-wm, didn't expect so much hassle
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3580 [22:12:13] <dondelelcaro> ADubhlaoich: ah; yeah, nm-applet works just fine with i3-wm
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3582 [22:12:29] <dondelelcaro> (or nmcli)
3583 [22:13:16] <somiaj> yea, I think any systemtray should be able to hold it, stalonetray and trayer are some de indepent systrays, there are also some de independent pannels, like tint2, tec
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3585 [22:13:30] <dondelelcaro> yeah
3586 [22:14:15] <dondelelcaro> (i3bar is actually what does it by default for i3-wm)
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3594 [22:16:14] <fiveflowerzz> I have two versions of a local file (4GB) : a00.rar and a01.rar, there are only a few bytes of difference
3595 [22:16:23] <fiveflowerzz> On my distant server I have only a00.rar
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3597 [22:16:40] <fiveflowerzz> how to take the diff between a00.rar and a01.rar locally and replicate it on the distant server?
3598 [22:16:48] <fiveflowerzz> (this will save reuploading of 4GB...)
3599 [22:16:52] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: rsync -y
3600 [22:17:23] <fiveflowerzz> does this make a "patch" ?
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3603 [22:17:49] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: or cp a00.rar a01.rar; and use rsync just itself. It'll use rsync's algorithm to effectively make such a patch
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3608 [22:18:32] <fiveflowerzz> but for the first comparison
3609 [22:18:38] <fiveflowerzz> rsync has to have both files
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3611 [22:18:47] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: no
3612 [22:18:50] <fiveflowerzz> so 4GB needs to be sent one way or the other
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3614 [22:19:27] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: nope; rsync runs on the remote too, and calculates the checksum there.
3615 [22:19:33] <somiaj> rsync compares the local file to the remote file
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3617 [22:20:02] <fiveflowerzz> somiaj: if md5sum is different, it has to download both
3618 [22:20:21] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: no, because rsync will compare the checksums of parts of the files.
3619 [22:20:23] <fiveflowerzz> if this is first run of rsync ever
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3621 [22:20:33] <fiveflowerzz> oh ok
3622 [22:20:50] <dondelelcaro> (assuming you're using --partial or --fuzzy or similar)
3623 [22:21:01] <fiveflowerzz> what would be the full command line command then?
3624 [22:21:07] <fiveflowerzz> (using ssh maybe?)
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3627 [22:21:40] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: rsync -avyP a01.rar remote:path/to/dir/with/a00.rar/.;
3628 [22:21:48] <dondelelcaro> man rsync; for details.
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3630 [22:22:06] <fiveflowerzz> will this send to remote?
3631 [22:22:31] <ompaul> one possible is rsync -ave ssh /local/path/unique-bit-of-filename* wherever@farawaymachine:/something/to/put/.
3632 [22:22:41] <Ke> dondelelcaro: spend countless hours on the problem and configure smtp just for debian bug reports
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3634 [22:22:53] <implijer> hey
3635 [22:22:56] <ompaul> and what dondelelcaro said
3636 [22:22:58] <dondelelcaro> Ke: you shouldn't have to do that; reportbug can send mail directly to the BTS.
3637 [22:23:12] <greycat> A normal person has working email *anyway*, but if for any reason you don't want to do that, you can configure reportbug to ... that.
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3639 [22:23:20] <implijer> I can't seem to be able to play .webm on firefox. What package handle that ?
3640 [22:23:26] <dondelelcaro> Ke: assuming your ISP doesn't block every port that was ever associated with SMTP.
3641 [22:23:30] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul what is -ave ? will it work with sftp as well?
3642 [22:23:38] <implijer> (it says everytime "video is corrupted" on every video)
3643 [22:23:43] <Ke> dondelelcaro: isn't 25 always blocked?
3644 [22:23:45] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: you really should read the manpage; it'll answer all of these questions.
3645 [22:23:48] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: I gave you rsync - not sftp
3646 [22:23:59] <dondelelcaro> Ke: no
3647 [22:24:03] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: sftp I'd use scp -
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3649 [22:24:17] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: i mean transfer over ssh
3650 [22:24:19] <somiaj> Ke: really depends on the ISP.
3651 [22:24:23] <greycat> scp is generally terrible.
3652 [22:24:32] <somiaj> Ke: some don't block it, some block it and require you use their SMTP server as a relay
3653 [22:24:32] <dondelelcaro> Ke: but reportbug doesn't use smtp, it uses submission IIRC.
3654 [22:24:33] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: that is what the ssh command does there
3655 [22:25:03] <ompaul> greycat: much easier to script and I use it for simple one file fire and we'll get one tomorrow cases
3656 [22:25:15] <dondelelcaro> (in other words, 587, not 25)
3657 [22:25:26] <ompaul> greycat: scp is the udp of file transfers
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3660 [22:25:40] <greycat> *If* your scp use case is simple enough, then yes, you can put it in a script without anything breaking, but it goes out of its way to break in most cases.
3661 [22:26:26] <greycat> The important thing to remember about scp is that it's just a thin wrapper over ssh, which is just a thin wrapper over sh, so it passes your remote filenames through ssh which passes it to a shell which PARSES it. This breaks if the remote destination has spaces in it, etc.
3662 [22:26:43] <ompaul> greycat: I found that if I wanted to use scp (before I knew rsync) I used to tar md5sum scp md5sum tar
3663 [22:27:00] <greycat> You can just use tar | ssh tar directly.
3664 [22:27:02] <ompaul> we used to think that md5sum was the best thing ever back then
3665 [22:27:20] <dondelelcaro> yeah, scp is terrible
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3667 [22:27:36] <dondelelcaro> pretty much any time you want to use it, you should actually be using rsync
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3669 [22:27:59] <somiaj> doesn't only also work between other openssh servers but would break if you had to connect to some other ssh server.
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3671 [22:28:17] <jelly> sftp is much nicer
3672 [22:28:36] <ompaul> jelly: I hate programming in expect
3673 [22:28:51] <jelly> get a decent client
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3677 [22:29:23] <jelly> even sshfs is a decent enough client for some purposes
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3680 [22:29:58] <jelly> in case rsync is unavailable on one or both ends
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3683 [22:30:30] <dondelelcaro> jelly: heh. If it's unavailable at the other end, I usually use scp to make it available. ;-)
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3686 [22:30:50] <jelly> ah, I usually use yum or apt
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3697 [22:35:11] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: it seems that rsync -avz -e ssh remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir /this/dir/
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3699 [22:35:25] <fiveflowerzz> copies *from* remote *to* local
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3701 [22:35:40] <fiveflowerzz> How to do the converse? ie send from local *to* remote ?
3702 [22:35:49] <fiveflowerzz> I searched in man, but didn't really find
3703 [22:35:55] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: read what I said ...
3704 [22:36:03] <fiveflowerzz> I tried, but I get:
3705 [22:36:07] <ompaul> you put them in the other order
3706 [22:36:12] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: be very very careful about tail / and rsync. remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir is NOT the same as remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir/
3707 [22:36:30] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: I tried your order, but I get: The source and destination cannot both be remote.
3708 [22:36:50] <jelly> former refers to the directory itself. Latter, only the contents
3709 [22:36:59] <ompaul> <ompaul> one possible is rsync -ave ssh /local/path/unique-bit-of-filename* wherever@farawaymachine:/something/to/put/.
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3711 [22:37:16] <fiveflowerzz> jelly: i use 1 file only, no dir
3712 [22:37:17] <ompaul> note I never say remotehost except now
3713 [22:37:22] <greycat> pretty sure you don't want "ssh" there, ompaul
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3715 [22:37:32] <greycat> Oh... never mind.
3716 [22:37:43] <ompaul> greycat: ;-)
3717 [22:37:45] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: i tried exactly that, but i get this error message
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3719 [22:37:53] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: where is the file you want
3720 [22:37:54] <greycat> You're assuming a non-Debian client where -e ssh isn't the default.
3721 [22:38:02] <jelly> how old has rsync have to be not to default to -essh anyway? squeeze did it.
3722 [22:38:08] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul the file I want to send is local
3723 [22:38:16] <fiveflowerzz> I want to go to distant server
3724 [22:38:24] <fiveflowerzz> *I want it to go
3725 [22:38:27] <ompaul> jelly: do you know I am older than the mountains
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3728 [22:38:59] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: think of rsync as Put THIS-HERE There
3729 [22:39:06] <ompaul> Always
3730 [22:39:28] <jelly> just like scp, only sane
3731 [22:39:42] <jelly> well, saner
3732 [22:39:48] <fiveflowerzz> I get this: The source and destination cannot both be remote.
3733 [22:39:48] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: rsync -ave ssh thisgoesto username@faraway: puts it in the root of the usernames home
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3735 [22:40:09] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: show the actual command that tells that message.
3736 [22:40:17] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: READ IT AGAIN please -- note this ... you don't have a local username
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3739 [22:40:29] <ompaul> and you do have a one for faraway
3740 [22:40:43] <ompaul> EXCLUSIVLY OR
3741 [22:40:55] <ompaul> you have a username at a faraway machine which copies a file to here
3742 [22:41:01] <fiveflowerzz> rsync -ave ssh D:\test.rar root@xx.xxx.xx.xx:/home/replaced-url
3743 [22:41:06] <ompaul> Source Destination
3744 [22:41:06] <greycat> See, this is why I have him on /ignore.
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3746 [22:41:11] <ompaul> d?
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3748 [22:41:21] <ompaul> pscp good bye
3749 [22:41:22] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: quote that D:\test.rar
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3751 [22:41:32] <fiveflowerzz> jelly: Already tried
3752 [22:42:06] <jelly> or use unc(?) syntax //D$/test.rar -- I'm guessing wildly here
3753 [22:42:27] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: use pscp and then pscp path\stupidfilestystem.rar user@really.good.operating.system:
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3756 [22:42:38] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul :)
3757 [22:42:41] <dondelelcaro> or chdir to whatever directory that is, and then use rsync
3758 [22:42:50] <jelly> the colon is part of rsync syntax and gets it confused
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3760 [22:43:00] <ompaul> windows users grrrr
3761 [22:43:15] <jelly> people in ##windows may know how to work around it the Right Way
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3763 [22:43:18] <fiveflowerzz> Remote server is Debian, I'll reboot local machine to linux, it'll be easier
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3769 [22:43:52] <ompaul> jelly: I gave the pscp command to use on windows - rsync on windows is painful I've done three scripts for it and never again I just zip and pscsp if they need to do that
3770 [22:43:53] <fiveflowerzz> Thanks everyone!
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3774 [22:44:04] <lukkan991> replaced-url
3775 [22:44:16] <ompaul> lukkan991: give us a clue
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3778 [22:44:36] <lukkan991> trying to get alsa to work
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3780 [22:44:52] <fiveflowerzz> rebooting to debian... see you
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3782 [22:45:06] <ompaul> lukkan991: what desktop is that?
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3784 [22:45:19] <lukkan991> mate
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3786 [22:45:28] <ompaul> on?
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3788 [22:45:42] <lukkan991> debain
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3791 [22:45:48] <lukkan991> debian*
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3795 [22:46:23] <jelly> lukkan991: what does "aplay -l" say?
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3798 [22:46:54] <lukkan991> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
3799 [22:46:56] <lukkan991> aplay: device_list:273: snd_ctl_pcm_next_devi
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3801 [22:47:05] <jelly> lukkan991: also, before showing any further output, please do "export LC_ALL=C" in that terminal, that will switch messages to English
3802 [22:47:07] <jelly> !paste
3803 [22:47:08] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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3807 [22:48:34] <lukkan991> done
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3812 [22:50:16] <lukkan991> let you know i am on debian 8
3813 [22:50:19] <lukkan991> 7*
3814 [22:50:31] <lukkan991> i too tired to fix this
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3818 [22:51:26] <chvz> o/
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3820 [22:51:52] <lukkan991> also i get cannot open mixer: No such file or directory when trying to open alsamix as normal and root
3821 [22:52:27] <lukkan991> alsamixer*
3822 [22:52:54] <lukkan991> any clue to fix it?
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3826 [22:54:54] <ompaul> lukkan991: alsamixer is run as a user
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3830 [22:55:17] <ompaul> but if yo udon't have a card listed in aplay then you have other issues
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3832 [22:55:28] <fiveflowerzz> I rebooted to Linux, did the exact same command... 20 seconds later it was successfull and finished :)
3833 [22:55:32] <fiveflowerzz> problem solved!
3834 [22:55:35] <fiveflowerzz> thanks guys!
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3838 [22:57:02] <lukkan991> how do i fix my problem?
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3840 [22:57:15] <greycat> !alsa checklist
3841 [22:57:15] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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3868 [23:09:26] <elwisp> have a box with a few disks in it, all of em was plugged in on the motherboard, one disk gets recognized as a floppy. unloaded the floppy module, the disks it recognizes as disks tho are showing wrong sizeo or no label etc. its 4 tb disks showing up as 8 gb disks. I have no clue, i have tried reinstalling, and i have tried a different controller since this box has two
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3870 [23:10:23] <ompaul> fdisk -l into a pastebin please the debian one please
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3873 [23:12:01] <elwisp> gimmea sec
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3876 [23:13:18] <elwisp> replaced-url
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3881 [23:15:08] <ompaul> that has got to be a new debian server I guess
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3883 [23:15:26] <elwisp> yeah
3884 [23:15:44] <ompaul> replaced-url
3885 [23:15:47] <ompaul> maybe that
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3887 [23:16:22] <elwisp> replaced-url
3888 [23:16:44] <elwisp> zerobin encrypts pastes, not that it matters in this case
3889 [23:16:57] <ompaul> and ... debian does https:
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3891 [23:18:05] <ompaul> and now please df -h
3892 [23:18:22] <elwisp> df -h only shows root which is sdd1
3893 [23:18:33] <elwisp> since thats the only disk that has been setup durin installation
3894 [23:18:59] <elwisp> im thinking this might be a driver issue, but i have the right driver for the controller. And i cannot for the life of me figure out why it is behaving like this
3895 [23:19:07] <ompaul> can you please do it and I'll take the conversation where I want after that
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3898 [23:19:19] <elwisp> replaced-url
3899 [23:19:29] <ompaul> elwisp: I have ideas about how to solve the issue but I want to discover what I consider the layout of the box to be
3900 [23:19:33] <elwisp> replaced-url
3901 [23:19:45] <elwisp> thats df -h
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3906 [23:21:20] <ompaul> so sde and sdf are usb sticks?
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3908 [23:21:48] <elwisp> Nope, they are 4tb disks
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3915 [23:23:58] <ompaul> have you tried this in gparted?
3916 [23:24:18] <elwisp> only parted
3917 [23:24:21] <elwisp> since its a headless server
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3920 [23:25:06] <ompaul> they need GPT to be used in their formatting
3921 [23:25:20] <ompaul> fdisk doesn't see over 2TB
3922 [23:25:33] <elwisp> did you see what parted -l returned?
3923 [23:26:41] <elwisp> hmm perhaps gpt needs some modules?
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3925 [23:27:44] <ompaul> no
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3929 [23:28:45] <Prutheus> Hello! I wanna visualize the audio I am playing. Do you know any good audio visualizers in 3d, with good, fancy animatoins for linux? I want to bring life into the music i hear.
3930 [23:28:51] <Prutheus> Hello! I wanna visualize the audio I am playing. Do you know any good audio visualizers in 3d, with good, fancy animatoins for linux? I want to bring life into the music i hear.
3931 [23:29:40] <ompaul> elwisp: can you do fdisk -l fpr a moment - or did you do that already?
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3933 [23:29:56] <elwisp> yeah i sent that in the first pastebin
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3936 [23:31:47] <lukkan99> got sound-test and mixer to work now but stil no sound
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3938 [23:32:24] <lukkan99> i know that soundcard works as it did under xp
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3943 [23:33:02] <elwisp> could this be because it should have been installed witn non-free firmware?
3944 [23:33:47] <lukkan99> i have installed all the firware thay sayed on thikwiki
3945 [23:34:10] <elwisp> lukkan99: sorry was talking to ompaul
3946 [23:34:16] <lukkan99> oh
3947 [23:34:20] <lukkan99> my bad
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3949 [23:34:23] <Hijiri> somiaj: thanks for the info about krita
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3953 [23:35:25] <elwisp> ompaul: made a gpt layout on sdf and tried to make filesystem and dmesg just spews errors
3954 [23:35:27] <ompaul> elwisp: that shouldn't be a problem. I've just looked at that - eh install lshw and give me a paste about thise disks
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3956 [23:35:38] <ompaul> elwisp: it's bust?
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3958 [23:35:45] <elwisp> new drives
3959 [23:36:12] <ompaul> elwisp: last chance hotel not ssd before I tell you ?
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3962 [23:36:25] <ompaul> I doubht it but I have to ask :-)
3963 [23:36:46] <elwisp> ompaul: the root disk is ssd but the rest is HDD
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3967 [23:38:05] <ompaul> cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdf for afew seconds CTRL C then when it eventually stops (it will have a lot in the buffer) then install lshw and check what it says about the disk - then run --> partprobe <-- then try fdisk again
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3970 [23:38:15] <ompaul> just for sdf
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3972 [23:38:27] <elwisp> ompaul: replaced-url
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3974 [23:38:44] <lukkan99> only my modem shows up for audio with aplay -l
3975 [23:38:46] <lukkan99> wird
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3980 [23:39:15] <elwisp> need to reboot it first, the mkfs just hung
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3982 [23:40:59] <ompaul> elwisp: it has no serial number - it is not being read right
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3984 [23:41:13] <ompaul> shotgun practice :-)
3985 [23:41:41] <elwisp> yup, thats what i figured as well, whats wierd is that i have tried 2 different raid controllers
3986 [23:41:51] <elwisp> could be power, but i think it would not find it at all then
3987 [23:41:58] <ompaul> who made it
3988 [23:42:14] <elwisp> friend of mine
3989 [23:42:20] <ompaul> eh ...
3990 [23:42:22] <ompaul> the disk
3991 [23:42:26] <ompaul> manafacturer
3992 [23:42:29] <elwisp> i think its WD
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3999 [23:44:39] <ompaul> yeah - I'd expect a much more output from lshw tbh so I can't take that anywhere
4000 [23:45:13] <elwisp> must be some module missing
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4003 [23:46:04] <elwisp> it came back up
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4009 [23:48:46] <lukkan99> is anyone one hare know how to set up audio on a thinkpad t42
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4013 [23:49:24] <ompaul> lukkan99: apt-cache search thinkpad will help somewhat
4014 [23:49:47] <ompaul> and non free sources
4015 [23:49:49] <ompaul> iirc
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4019 [23:49:53] <ompaul> been a while
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4025 [23:51:03] <elwisp> i think im just going to have to sleep on this and maybe reinstall it with nonfree image
4026 [23:51:09] <elwisp> something must be off
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4040 [23:55:18] <lukkan99> what packet is alsaconf in?
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4042 [23:56:08] <kotdadabong> how can i eliminate every account thats not root, and use a gui desktop like lightdm/lxde
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4044 [23:56:16] <kotdadabong> ?
4045 [23:56:20] <sh00p> lukkan99 i dont remember, maybe alsa-util or something like that, there's a way to find out, i suggest you google it
4046 [23:56:48] <sh00p> this is not a good idea kotdadabong, but if you insist, it's easy to remove accounts in the /etc/passwd file
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4048 [23:57:28] <sh00p> mind you, there are users that are necessary for the operation of the os, so dont go deleting everything in the passwd file
4049 [23:57:34] <somiaj> kotdadabong: be careful there are lots of system accounts you don't want to elimate. And you don't want to run x as root.
4050 [23:57:55] <kotdadabong> ok thanks sh00p. i understand the risk, however i need a gui application to autostart and utilize gpio which requires root
4051 [23:57:58] <lukkan99> i have it install but dont have the command installed
4052 [23:58:01] <lukkan99> wtf
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4054 [23:58:37] <somiaj> kotdadabong: is this a gui app that requires gpio?
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4056 [23:59:47] <sh00p> lukkan99 alsaconf is an application?
4057 [23:59:51] <sh00p> i dont ever remember using it like that
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