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17 [00:09:08] <cyphix> To be a very little more specific, when I try to connect to my jail with ssh, the connection closes immediately after connection, just like there were no login shell. I don't know why it is not recognized anymore
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22 [00:10:22] <jonz3n> are you accessing the jail from a new machine /recent upgrade?
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28 [00:11:59] <jonz3n> cyphix: are you accessing the jail from a new machine /recent upgrade?
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37 [00:15:43] <cyphix> jonz3n: No, it's the same machine as ever
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40 [00:16:14] <cyphix> jonz3n: I'm under testing, so frequent upgrades, yeah
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46 [00:19:46] <awal1> what means exactly "Image format was not specified for 'Debian-Sid.img' and probing guessed raw." i guet from qemu installing a guest?
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48 [00:20:26] <jonz3n> petn-randall: the link to my smartctl dump replaced-url
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54 [00:23:28] <awal1> qemu is incredibly slow compared to kvm & virtualbox :P
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56 [00:25:34] <petn-randall> jonz3n: Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable are what you should be looking at. You can fix those pending sectors by overwriting the data there.
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60 [00:26:08] <petn-randall> jonz3n: There is a tutorial out there to find the affected file via calculating the inode, check that out.
61 [00:27:08] <jonz3n> thanks petn-randall
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72 [00:34:14] <hfp> Hi, how can I check which version of systemd ships with Debian 8? I have run `systemd --version` on my system but I suspect I'm not using a standard Debian 8, and so I might have an outdated systemd out of the box.
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77 [00:35:39] <AimHere> hfp, apt-cache show systemd should give you some sort of version number of the installed .deb package
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79 [00:36:02] <centrx> hfp: packages.debian.org/systemd
80 [00:36:06] <AimHere> system --version will give you the version of the one that's running
81 [00:36:11] <abrotman> judd: versions systemd
82 [00:36:12] <judd> Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u5; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; sid: 232-3; stretch: 232-3
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88 [00:38:48] <hfp> I see, do I'd have to use jessie-backports if I wanted a more recent version than 215?
89 [00:39:33] <hfp> or is it a bad idea because they're unstable?
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95 [00:41:27] <abrotman> hfp: yes, you can use backports
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105 [00:45:59] <hfp> thanks abrotman, centrx, AimHere, judd :)
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130 [01:07:34] <justanoobnothing> hi guys, is it possible to dissable the login manager, and always start in terminal mode. Also, I would like to start my farovite display manager, namely i3. Which directions should I look for information
131 [01:08:11] <justanoobnothing> oh shit
132 [01:08:19] <justanoobnothing> there are a lot of grammar errors
133 [01:08:30] <justanoobnothing> grammarnazis should take their stake right now
134 [01:08:50] <justanoobnothing> sorry guys, im just a noob
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136 [01:11:14] <abrotman> justanoobnothing: yes, you can set it in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
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138 [01:11:21] <abrotman> dpkg: tell justanoobnothing about nodm
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151 [01:22:50] <ljc> this might be a long shot; i've got debian 2.2 running in a vm, but it can't detect eth0. similar to replaced-url
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153 [01:23:21] <ljc> this is my output from `ifup eth0`, and my /etc/network/interfaces replaced-url
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158 [01:24:15] <abrotman> lspci -nn ?
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161 [01:25:07] <ljc> -nn doesn't mention anything, but `lspci` does show an ethernet interface
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166 [01:27:07] <ljc> as in, -nn gives a list, but i'm not sure how to read it. it's not noob friendly ;)
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171 [01:28:42] <Texou> it's not done to be read by human being :)
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174 [01:29:14] <ljc> ic
175 [01:29:25] <Texou> mainly it should be pasted in some utility
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178 [01:31:12] <ljc> would screenshots suffice?
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180 [01:31:51] <Texou> I can't find the starting of chat. What's your problem?
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183 [01:33:18] <ljc> pm? so to not repeat it in here
184 [01:33:43] * Texou tries scroll up
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186 [01:34:01] <ljc> was about 10 minutes ago
187 [01:34:08] <Texou> ok go for PM
188 [01:34:13] <ljc> debian 2.2 can't find eth0
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190 [01:34:26] <Texou> ah
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193 [01:35:26] <Texou> ljc: what? Debian 2.2?
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195 [01:35:47] <ljc> it's for an assignment
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198 [01:35:58] <Texou> ah
199 [01:36:12] <Texou> ljc: but you're en Jessie !ight?
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204 [01:37:56] <ljc> the host os is osx
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208 [01:38:43] <Texou> ok
209 [01:38:45] <Texou> oh
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211 [01:39:11] <Texou> ljc: has a VM worked with network on this host?
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214 [01:39:50] <ljc> yep! :)
215 [01:40:06] <ljc> it's normally fine and configured automatically
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217 [01:40:16] <ljc> i'm kind of wondering if there's a set up i need to go through
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219 [01:40:55] <Texou> ljc: lspci displays a network card?
220 [01:41:06] <ljc> yep
221 [01:41:23] <Texou> ljc: maybe you can change the emulated card?
222 [01:41:45] <ljc> do you mean from eth0 -> eth1 ?
223 [01:41:50] <Texou> no
224 [01:41:55] <Texou> in your hypervisor
225 [01:42:15] <Texou> it should enable you to choose she card type you want
226 [01:42:27] <Texou> (according to supported cards by the hypervisor)
227 [01:42:46] <Texou> otherwise, what says dmesg|grep .fw ?
228 [01:42:54] <ljc> from NAT to bridged? or otherwise
229 [01:43:08] <Texou> hmmm
230 [01:43:11] <ljc> no output
231 [01:43:17] <ljc> from that grep
232 [01:43:22] <Texou> no not nat-bridge
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235 [01:44:27] <Texou> I'm checking
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239 [01:44:38] <ljc> this is with vmware
240 [01:44:47] <ljc> if it helps
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243 [01:45:27] <Texou> and you say other distros work with same settings in Hypervisor?
244 [01:46:03] <Texou> paste lspci and lspci -n please?
245 [01:46:24] <ljc> yep, they're usually fine
246 [01:46:26] <ljc> ok 1 moment
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257 [01:48:46] <ljc> lspci -nn : replaced-url
258 [01:48:46] <ljc> replaced-url
259 [01:49:18] <awal1> Why qemu, without kernel module, is so slow?
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261 [01:49:42] <Texou> ljc: hmm could you paste on pastebin instead?
262 [01:50:09] <ljc> unfortunately i can't copy and paste :/ since i'm just in a console
263 [01:50:16] <ljc> and not in a window manager
264 [01:50:23] <Texou> hmmm
265 [01:50:31] <awal1> almost 3 hours for install a debian guest (minimal system9 in a debian host :(
266 [01:50:42] <missmbob> !pastebinit
267 [01:50:43] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b replaced-url
268 [01:51:26] <missmbob> awal1: because it cant do hardware virtualization without it? all has to be software as if your hardware didn't support it
269 [01:51:37] <Texou> ljc: so add to your ~/.bashrc these lines:
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271 [01:51:53] <Texou> sprunge() {
272 [01:51:56] <Texou> curl -F 'sprunge=<-' replaced-url
273 [01:51:57] <missmbob> ljc that pastebinit thing was for you, btw
274 [01:51:58] <Texou> }
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276 [01:52:23] <ljc> missmbob: thanks, though the trouble i'm having is that eth0 is down hah
277 [01:52:25] <abrotman> he has no network from the VM, correct?
278 [01:52:37] <missmbob> oh. just got here. sorry
279 [01:52:38] <Texou> ljc: oh yes
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282 [01:52:55] <awal1> missmbob, ok, so no real virtualization without kvm/kernel module?
283 [01:53:03] <ljc> Texou: sure thing
284 [01:53:04] <Texou> ljc: so on what line does your network card appear in lspci?
285 [01:53:07] <missmbob> awal1: right
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288 [01:53:35] <ljc> Texou: the second last line
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290 [01:53:39] <ljc> lspci : replaced-url
291 [01:53:40] <ljc> replaced-url
292 [01:53:55] <Texou> ljc: ok. paste here the second last line displayed by lspci -n
293 [01:54:02] <ljc> ok
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297 [01:54:41] <ljc> 02:00.0 Class 0200: 1022:2000 (rev 10)
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299 [01:54:59] <Texou> ok
300 [01:55:10] <Texou> ok
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302 [01:55:21] <Texou> moment
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305 [01:55:56] <ljc> np
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309 [01:57:03] <Texou> ljc: lsmod|grep pcnet32
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311 [01:58:00] <ljc> no output
312 [01:58:13] <Texou> ljc: modprobe pcnet32
313 [01:58:28] <ljc> output
314 [01:58:38] <Texou> ?
315 [01:58:41] <ljc> 1 sec
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318 [01:59:37] <ljc> PCI bios is present; PCI master bit has not been set. setting.. ; Found PCnet/PCI at 0x2000, irq11; pcnet32.c:v1.25kf
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321 [01:59:50] <Texou> ok
322 [01:59:52] <ljc> `lsmod | grep pcnet32` now lists t
323 [01:59:53] <ljc> *it
324 [02:00:08] <Texou> try ifconfig eth0 now?
325 [02:00:16] <ljc> annd pinging google works
326 [02:00:27] <Texou> fine
327 [02:00:32] <ljc> :D thanks vm Texou
328 [02:00:38] <Texou> just add pcnet32 to /etc/modules
329 [02:00:45] <Texou> and it will be fine
330 [02:00:55] <Texou> and otherwise, think of modprobe the module
331 [02:00:59] <Texou> yw
332 [02:01:03] <ljc> ok
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334 [02:01:12] <ljc> may i ask how you come about 'pcnet32' ?
335 [02:01:18] <Texou> yes
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338 [02:01:39] <Texou> I pasted your lspci -n output here: replaced-url
339 [02:01:57] <Texou> it says wether your device is supported and how it is
340 [02:02:39] <ljc> nice
341 [02:02:55] <Texou> :)
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346 [02:04:40] <jim_carry> Sometimes closing lid won't go to sleep mode. I am using debian jessie on thinkpad t410
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349 [02:05:29] <Texou> jiI n2ess it's a screensaver setting to be checked
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351 [02:05:42] <Texou> or power management on your DE
352 [02:06:25] <jim_carry> Sometimes it works sometimes don't
353 [02:06:31] <jim_carry> I am using i3wm
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361 [02:10:37] <Texou> here it mainly works on X, not in pure tty
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369 [02:12:30] <Texou> missmbob: many thanks for pastebinit, I didn't know. Now installed :)
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374 [02:13:37] <missmbob> Texou: great :)
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376 [02:14:29] * Texou bck to his bluez problem :)
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380 [02:15:04] <JewBanker3> Adolf Hitler FEEL THE POWER, SEE THE GLORY!
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386 [02:16:51] <Texou> I don't know who's chan op but...
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388 [02:16:58] <Texou> should kickban that
389 [02:17:19] <ljc> he's doing the rounds in big channels i think
390 [02:17:30] <Texou> probably
391 [02:17:32] <abrotman> kickban what? the person that isn't here?
392 [02:17:56] <ljc> cuz he did it in #help
393 [02:18:05] <abrotman> anyway, back to Debian ..
394 [02:18:17] <Texou> k
395 [02:18:40] <Texou> I don't understand how a nick can post without being joined. Probably with /msg
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397 [02:19:07] <abrotman> perhaps you missed it disconnecting ... Anyway, back to Debian
398 [02:19:16] <Texou> oh ok
399 [02:19:32] <Texou> abrotman: now you say, indeed, I ignore join/quit/part :)
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401 [02:19:42] <ljc> it was a nick change
402 [02:19:46] <abrotman> ...
403 [02:19:50] <Texou> :)
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405 [02:20:04] <ljc> idling as 'girlspeaker' -> 'new nick', then d/c
406 [02:20:09] <ljc> but you could still +b the ip
407 [02:20:09] <abrotman> ...
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409 [02:20:15] <abrotman> You must have something better to talk about
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412 [02:21:27] <Texou> I know here we support Jessie, but if someone has an idea to explain to me how I can fix bluez update it'd be Nice. :) I get: bluetoothd[6760]: D-Bus setup failed: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied.
413 [02:21:46] <Texou> perms on it are srw-rw-rw-
414 [02:22:00] <Texou> and I cannot find any idea anywhere
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416 [02:22:34] <Texou> I tried removing libselinux1:amd64 and libapparmor1:amd64 but... wrog idea
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419 [02:22:46] <JewLies> Adolf Hitler - "You Said I Was A Dreamer" replaced-url
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429 [02:29:51] <kyfish> replaced-url
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445 [02:38:09] <Texou> thanks abrotman :)
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488 [02:52:24] <Neobenedict> nice bot
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492 [02:54:25] <binbasher1> yo, it worked, thanks, I only have no mouse :D
493 [02:54:34] <abrotman> I'm not a bot ..
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499 [02:56:23] <Texou> :D
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514 [03:08:56] <hiyo> Hello, how do I automount an external hard drive to a debian server?
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519 [03:12:18] <Texou> hiyo: with fstab
520 [03:13:01] <hiyo> Texou: Thanks, I tried mounting it through the command line but it won't let me into the mounted folder
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522 [03:13:30] <Texou> hiyo: don't understand
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526 [03:14:53] <jim> what's the package that has an iso creator?
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529 [03:15:36] <hiyo> Texou: I tried doing "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/exthd" but I can't get into exthd, says permission denied
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531 [03:15:44] <Texou> jim: genisoimage?
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533 [03:15:56] <jim> thanks
534 [03:16:26] <Texou> hiyo: depends on how you have your root account set
535 [03:16:41] <hiyo> no root account, mine has sudo
536 [03:17:09] <Texou> hiyo: and what are serm for exthd?
537 [03:17:15] <Texou> perm*
538 [03:17:21] <hiyo> Texou: and if I try to change permissions it then says read only filesystem
539 [03:17:32] <hiyo> dr-x------ 1 root root 4096 Mar 19 2016 exthd
540 [03:17:32] <Texou> hmmm
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542 [03:17:41] <Texou> oh
543 [03:17:47] <Texou> but how was created this dir?
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546 [03:18:01] <hiyo> sudo mkdir /mnt/exthd
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548 [03:18:20] <Texou> hiyo: are you sure it's empty?
549 [03:19:06] <hiyo> yes
550 [03:19:29] <Texou> hiyo: and chmod +w doesn't work?
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552 [03:19:45] <hiyo> yep
553 [03:20:08] <Texou> strange your dir is read-only
554 [03:20:15] <Texou> what about /mnt itself?
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570 [03:30:28] <redrabbit> i have an authentication issue with hostapd
571 [03:30:29] <redrabbit> replaced-url
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668 [04:39:51] <redrabbit> that spam :|
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722 [05:22:10] <XexarCol> Hello World
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725 [05:22:56] <XexarCol> I am looking for a tool for private navigation, not just browser...I mean vpn i.e
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742 [05:35:04] <lukkan99> is this ware a get ubuntu?
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746 [05:35:16] <stimp> i wanr downloda the arch linucks keernel
747 [05:35:24] <krytarik> !ops
748 [05:35:25] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
749 [05:35:45] <XexarCol> Hello World
750 [05:35:46] <XexarCol> I am looking for a tool or software for anonymous all my navigation from Kali.....not just browser
751 [05:35:58] <missmbob> !kali
752 [05:35:58] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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754 [05:36:13] <stimp> my sides
755 [05:36:33] <lukkan99> is it hare a get the gnu kernal?
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757 [05:36:55] <stimp> i am want of purchase "GENTOO" free softare for my son in arabia .. this is wheere i download "GENTOO" for free ? gorrevt
758 [05:37:10] <XexarCol> regards dpkg
759 [05:37:18] <XexarCol> dpkg, thks
760 [05:37:18] <dpkg> XexarCol: i don't know
761 [05:37:26] <missmbob> XexarCol: dpkg is a bot
762 [05:37:57] <lukkan99> dpkg, do you have the linus kernal
763 [05:37:57] * dpkg refuses to do you have the linus kernal
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765 [05:39:07] <lukkan99> is hare i get the chen kernal?
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768 [05:41:19] <awal1> lukkan99: linux kernel you man?
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775 [05:43:50] <missmbob> awal1: it's just a troll
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778 [05:45:24] <awal1> missmbob: thats what I was guessing , but wanted to be sure before call ops :P
779 [05:45:35] <awal1> I notice that almost all gtk/qt dark/black theme existing out there are buggy an ugly. why so complicated to make one?
780 [05:46:15] <missmbob> awal1: i like arc-dark for gtk. but yeah, they mostly suck hard
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787 [05:48:42] <awal1> sid/stretch blue menta theme, from mate-themes, is great; that's what I use. I wish they have a dark version
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789 [05:48:51] <awal1> missmbob: third party?
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792 [05:49:15] <missmbob> ,i arc-theme
793 [05:49:16] <judd> No package named 'arc-theme' was found in jessie/amd64.
794 [05:49:21] <missmbob> ,v arc-theme
795 [05:49:22] <judd> Package: arc-theme on amd64 -- sid: 20161005-1; stretch: 20161005-1
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797 [05:49:56] <lukkan99> awal1 no the chen kernal or the awoo kernal
798 [05:50:07] <stimp> i am want please to leaenr of GENTOO
799 [05:50:13] <stimp> and compile kernel ut no halp :((
800 [05:50:29] <stimp> it is live from a fera awa, the gentoo and it is THIS ITS THE GENTOO #genotoo and ubuntuu help desk ?
801 [05:50:44] <awal1> missmbob: great so. I'll try it :)
802 [05:51:03] <dax> dpkg: ops lukkan99 and stimp tag-team trolling, previously banned for same in #ubuntu
803 [05:51:03] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: dax complains about: lukkan99 and stimp tag-team trolling, previously banned for same in #ubuntu
804 [05:51:37] <stimp> i am just want the help
805 [05:51:41] <stimp> in compile gnu kernel of gento
806 [05:51:49] <stimp> what is trole about this ?
807 [05:52:01] <lukkan99> i am not banned for ubuntu
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809 [05:53:09] <lukkan99> replaced-url
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812 [05:53:46] <stimp> that is, the real image, of a GENTOO kernlel :3
813 [05:53:51] <stimp> it is downlaod ! and i am need the help
814 [05:53:57] <stimp> to copmile MY OWn kwrnel under a gentoo....
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838 [06:02:56] <aum> help - on Debian Sid, after recent dist-upgrade, my Xorg server no longer has GLX - lspci indicates my graphics H/W is "Intel Xeon E3-1200" - before the dist-upgrade I had perfectly functional GLX and 3D, now no more - any ideas?
839 [06:04:55] <awal1> aum: sid ---» #debian-next on OFTC server
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842 [06:05:46] <AlexLikeRock> im going to ....
843 [06:05:48] <AlexLikeRock> replaced-url
844 [06:05:51] <AlexLikeRock> :-D
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868 [06:20:47] <gry> `dpkg -l` truncates package names, how do i work around that, please?
869 [06:22:10] <krytarik> gry: I always just pipe to 'less' then. :P
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872 [06:23:15] <petn-randall> gry: You can set the COLUMNS env var to make it larger. Like "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l".
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875 [06:23:31] <gry> krytarik, helps, thanks
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877 [06:23:44] <gry> petn-randall, i tried COLUMN and COLUMNS, both have zero effect
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879 [06:24:24] <petn-randall> gry: I just tried it on two machines, it does change the column width.
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882 [06:25:55] <krytarik> Yep, I can confirm that.
883 [06:26:38] <gry> petn-randall, what were the commands you put in?
884 [06:27:22] <gry> I wrote `export COLUMNS=80' and then `sudo dpkg -l linux*', and the result is the same as before.
885 [06:27:43] <gry> I then tried `sudo -E dpkg -l linux*', and the result is _still_ the same, with truncated package names.
886 [06:28:14] <krytarik> Why use 'sudo' in the first place?
887 [06:29:01] <gry> Oh, setting it to like 300 instead of 80 helps. Guess it's the total column width (aka how wide my terminal is)? ... (Not a sudo problem it seems.)
888 [06:29:04] <Rusty1_> perhaps apt search <package>
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890 [06:29:31] <gry> Thank you both (all three). Sorted now.
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892 [06:32:34] <awal1> hhhmmm, budgie-desktop is also in stretch :P
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895 [06:40:20] <beatdown> I WILL RAKE FUCK YOUR SISTERS WITH A BILLION NIGGER RAZOR DICKS
896 [06:40:52] <beatdown> I FUCKED YOUR LITTLE BROTHER
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898 [06:41:39] <Rusty1_> !ops beatdown need a little nudge
899 [06:41:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: rusty1_ complains about: beatdown need a little nudge
900 [06:42:00] <beatdown> NIGGER DICKS FOR LIFE
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906 [06:44:11] <petn-randall> Oh my, I guess school holidays must've started somewhere ...
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1282 [11:07:41] <Guest56607> hi guys
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1284 [11:08:22] <Guest56607> I am neophyte, I wanted to ask how to do so (using chmod) to make a file eliminated only by root
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1291 [11:10:04] <Guest56607> I am neophyte, I wanted to ask how to do so (using chmod) to make a file eliminated only by root
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1296 [11:12:54] <Guest56607> I am neophyte, I wanted to ask how to do so (using chmod) to make a file eliminated only by root
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1300 [11:15:01] <babilen> dpkg: repeat
1301 [11:15:01] <dpkg> Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org
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1303 [11:15:53] <Guest56607> ok sorry
1304 [11:16:13] <kerunaru> I think it should belong to root and have 755 permissions, Guest56607
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1309 [11:17:53] <babilen> Depends on what you mean by "eliminated"
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1311 [11:18:18] <babilen> root:root 600 or root:root 700 would work nicely
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1313 [11:18:41] <nano_python> Guest56607, "chown root:root file.ext" "chmod 0700 file.ext"
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1315 [11:19:15] <babilen> That assumed the file has an extension and should be executable
1316 [11:20:02] <kerunaru> And 700 assumed the file can't be read by others users :P
1317 [11:20:50] <kerunaru> There are a lot of different ways to acomplished what you want, Guest56607
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1321 [11:25:24] <Guest56607> ok try
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1324 [11:25:55] <Guest56607> chown root:root 700 filename?
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1326 [11:26:47] <kerunaru> chown root:root filename && chmod 700 filename
1327 [11:27:14] <babilen> Guest56607: Is that file an executable?
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1330 [11:28:14] <Guest56607> [oscar@oscar-freebsd ~/Desktop]$ chown root:root prova2 && chmod 700 prova2
1331 [11:28:14] <Guest56607> chown: root: illegal group name
1332 [11:28:14] <Guest56607> actually I am writing from freebsd virtual machine, but I thought that in unix systems the permissions were all the same, I was wrong?
1333 [11:28:26] <Guest56607> nope normal file not executable
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1336 [11:30:09] <babilen> You don't want to make it executable then (700 would be)
1337 [11:30:34] <babilen> And the group you are assigning doesn't seem to exist, 0 should work though
1338 [11:30:42] <babilen> 600 for permissions
1339 [11:30:43] <kerunaru> Uhm... Do 'id root' and see the output. Which is the root's group?
1340 [11:32:50] <jelly> Guest56607: to chown something to root, you have to be root
1341 [11:33:01] <Guest56607> [oscar@oscar-freebsd ~/Desktop]$ id root
1342 [11:33:01] <Guest56607> uid=0(root) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel),5(operator)
1343 [11:33:01] <Guest56607> [oscar@oscar-freebsd ~/Desktop]$
1344 [11:33:11] <jelly> that prompt suggests the shell is running as a normal user
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1346 [11:33:55] <Guest56607> remember I'm on freebsd
1347 [11:33:58] <kerunaru> True, jelly
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1349 [11:34:13] <kerunaru> chown root:wheel filename && chmod 700 filename
1350 [11:34:20] <kerunaru> But you have to be root
1351 [11:34:23] <jelly> Guest56607: shouldn't matter, but why are you asking in here then?
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1355 [11:35:10] <babilen> Ah, this isn't about a file in a Debian installation mounted on FreeBSD?
1356 [11:35:20] <babilen> How is it related to Debian?
1357 [11:35:46] <jelly> unix permissions may work the same but error messages may differ and assumptions what they mean can vary between different unices and different chown implementations
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1359 [11:37:14] <Guest56607> [oscar@oscar-freebsd ~/Desktop]$ touch prova
1360 [11:37:14] <Guest56607> [oscar@oscar-freebsd ~/Desktop]$ sudo su
1361 [11:37:14] <Guest56607> You have mail.
1362 [11:37:14] <Guest56607> root@oscar-freebsd:/usr/home/oscar/Desktop # chown root:wheel prova && chmod 700 prova
1363 [11:37:14] <Guest56607> root@oscar-freebsd:/usr/home/oscar/Desktop # exit
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1365 [11:37:20] <Posterdati> plese help: I'm running jessie i386 on an old athlon 1200MHz, I installed a nvidia geforce 6200 (NV44A) with nouveau, at boot it tries to launch kdm, but X returns an error: Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file, if I restart kdm from console X works. thanks
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1368 [11:38:07] <Guest56607> normal? replaced-url
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1372 [11:39:23] <babilen> Guest56607: How is this related to Debian?
1373 [11:40:09] <Guest56607> I know freebsd is not debian, but I asked here because I thought that the permissions in unix all were the same
1374 [11:41:49] <kerunaru> You need to keep in mind that FreeBSD have its own implementation of base commands which maybe can differ from others system...
1375 [11:42:11] <babilen> Guest56607: There are differences (as you can tell) and we also only support Debian in here. There is a #freebsd channel though. Bit surprised that you didn't try asking there.
1376 [11:43:25] <Guest56607> sorry
1377 [11:43:55] <Guest56607> :D
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1393 [11:54:01] <fas3r> Hello
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1395 [11:55:54] <fas3r> I try to setup openldap multi master using delta-synrepl for the replication. I created a accesslog db, do I need to syncronize it too with delta-sync as it's in MMR mode or the accesslog db should be unique for each server ?
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1403 [11:58:24] <babilen> fas3r: Which software does this relate to and why are you asking in #debian ?
1404 [11:58:44] <fas3r> babilen: openldap on debian
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1409 [11:59:33] <babilen> I don't really think that that is a Debian problem and that you might get better help in a more specific channel such as #openldap
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1419 [12:06:21] <dutchfish> fas3r, for what it is worth, if this is a setup for freeradius, then the answer should be NO. This is all in the redbooks with examples.
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1424 [12:06:56] <fas3r> dutchfish: nop but thanks
1425 [12:07:03] <Posterdati> solved!
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1451 [12:23:20] <kaartic> hello all i am facing a little problem after upgrading my debian recently. Could anybody help?
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1458 [12:25:48] <kaartic> The problem is that after the last dist-upgrade yesterday when i restarted the laptop it on looping with a particular error message and did not load the display manager.
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1463 [12:27:13] <kaartic> After a restart i was able to log in but there seems to be some unstability as the mouse stops working after some time and I am unable to restart or power off the laptop
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1467 [12:27:31] <kaartic> Any ideas why this is happening?
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1483 [12:34:39] <babilen> kaartic: It really boils down to: What did you upgrade? (see /var/log/apt/history.log)
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1486 [12:35:05] <teraflops> kaartic: are you running debian jessie?
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1492 [12:38:26] <kaartic> teraflops: i am using the testing (currently stretch) channel of debian
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1494 [12:39:10] <babilen> dpkg: #debian-next
1495 [12:39:10] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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1498 [12:40:31] <kaartic> babilen: I tried that. My IRC client says it requires an invitation
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1501 [12:40:44] <babilen> Read what dpkg just said again
1502 [12:41:00] <kaartic> ok soory
1503 [12:41:01] <babilen> That issue is clearly addressed in the factoid.
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1505 [12:41:18] <kaartic> *sorry
1506 [12:41:44] <babilen> No problem (it happens all the time which is why we are quite explicit about the channel being on OFTC with the rest of the official Debian channels)
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1511 [12:45:22] <kaartic> babilen: Is the IRC at irc.oftc.net working?
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1513 [12:45:43] <kaartic> I get a webpage which displays "IT Works!"
1514 [12:46:10] <kaartic> I found that "webchat.irc.net" as an alternative
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1516 [12:46:41] <kaartic> have they changed to "webchat.irc.net" or is it a problem that I am facing
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1521 [12:48:18] <babilen> kaartic: You'd normally use an IRC client to connect to it
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1523 [12:49:30] <kaartic> Ok sorry again. I haven't used IRCs much so I'm was not aware of that
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1525 [12:49:38] <kaartic> *I
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1531 [12:52:23] <kaartic> thanks for the info bye have a great day
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1542 [13:01:30] <eumel> hi everybody, which kernel version is currently tracked in testing?
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1549 [13:03:42] <eumel> need to install 4.2.x or above
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1557 [13:05:12] <eumel> thank you
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1593 [13:24:20] <admiral0> hello, how are network console kernels + initrds created?
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1632 [13:47:31] <thrmo> Why can't i donate to Debian using bitcoin? But i can use paypal? Just seems so weird.
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1638 [13:49:51] <abrotman> thrmo: that's a decision by SPI presumably
1639 [13:50:58] <thrmo> i suppose so aswell, it makes not a lot of sense tho
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1642 [13:52:18] <thrmo> bitcoin is a free software, decentralized, p2p paying method. Paypal is humm... Paypal.
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1644 [13:52:54] <abrotman> thrmo: There is a #spi on irc.oftc.net if you wanted to ask
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1647 [13:53:10] <thrmo> thanks
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1667 [14:14:57] <meile> hey. I use debian on an ibook (powerpc). Now I read that powerpc dropped in testing release. how can I switch back to stable? Or is it worth to have a look on unstable?
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1671 [14:15:51] <abrotman> meile: is it 64bit?
1672 [14:15:57] <meile> no :-(
1673 [14:16:19] <abrotman> Is it actually supported in Unstable?
1674 [14:16:54] <meile> yes it seems so. but I wonder when it dropped in testing, maybe it will drop in unstable too?
1675 [14:16:55] <abrotman> meile: switching back to stable would be rough, you're pretty far along toward Stretch
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1679 [14:18:00] <meile> so what to do? waiting for the release stretch
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1681 [14:18:38] <meile> but there still is no release date
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1683 [14:18:46] <abrotman> ther'es a freeze date
1684 [14:19:04] <eumel> it's somewhere next ferburary i think
1685 [14:19:11] <eumel> *february
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1687 [14:19:26] <babilen> eumel: Support for you hardware will be dropped
1688 [14:19:46] <eumel> babilen: my hardware?
1689 [14:19:51] <babilen> powerpc
1690 [14:19:58] <eumel> babilen: i'm on x86_64
1691 [14:20:00] <abrotman> babilen: meile, not eumel
1692 [14:20:01] <babilen> Ah, nvm .. that was meile
1693 [14:20:36] <babilen> There's also #debianppc that might have more specific information
1694 [14:20:41] <meile> so the drop of this architecture in testing is just the beginning?
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1696 [14:21:19] <meile> well I asked there yesterday but the persons there seems to be away all day ;-)
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1699 [14:21:29] <babilen> replaced-url
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1702 [14:22:00] <babilen> It's future is uncertain
1703 [14:22:07] <babilen> s/'//
1704 [14:22:14] <themill> 'doomed'
1705 [14:22:20] <n4dir> probably the best to switch to either FreeBSD or Gentoo as far ppc-architecture is concerned, meile. otoh you may still run debian on it for quite a while
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1707 [14:22:46] <meile> :-(
1708 [14:22:51] <n4dir> and, btw, what a pity.
1709 [14:22:54] <themill> Then again, by the time jessie support runs out, bot remaining devices will have hit the bin
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1712 [14:23:15] <n4dir> ^^ that's what i meant, i couldn't put it in words
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1721 [14:25:30] <meile> ... then I have to look what system will be next on my old ibook. I was really content with debian over years
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1723 [14:25:57] <abrotman> meile: as others have mentioned, you have a couple of years before support runs out
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1725 [14:26:31] <han-solo> what?
1726 [14:26:36] <han-solo> what's going on?
1727 [14:26:41] <meile> mh ... ok but how to get updates? At the moment I have "testing" in my apt source.list
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1730 [14:27:27] <meile> so I have to switch back to jessie?
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1734 [14:28:11] <themill> meile: it is likely to stay in sid for a while and perhaps move over to debian-ports.org eventually, depending on whether there are enough people who love it or not.
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1738 [14:29:49] <meile> ok thx I will have a look at it
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1760 [14:38:51] <Kev-> If I start a reverse ssh tunnel on host1:8000 (to host2:1234). Can I somehow allow outside connections to host1:8000? So the tunnel works for everyone on the same network?
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1765 [14:40:34] <iamawesome> Is there any command to know the temperature of cpu/cpu-fan?
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1769 [14:43:58] <cosmos_> iamawesome: sensors
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1774 [14:46:28] <iamawesome> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
1775 [14:46:33] <iamawesome> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
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1777 [14:47:43] <iamawesome> replaced-url
1778 [14:48:01] <iamawesome> sensorts-detect = replaced-url
1779 [14:48:08] <iamawesome> Can't see temperature
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1785 [14:49:52] <SynrGy> Kev-: i think you need -g for that
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1801 [14:59:49] <jgxu_> hello
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1816 [15:05:02] <aexl> hi. i've got iceweasel 38.8. i want to use the autofill function in the address bar. but i can't paste anymore without deleting the autofilled address. is that normal or my doing? is this better in version 45?
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1830 [15:16:16] <aexl> hello?! am i unclear?
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1834 [15:19:10] <han-solo> can't find the python-mysqldb package in jessie?
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1836 [15:19:26] <han-solo> should i update my sources.list?
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1838 [15:20:06] <babilen> judd: v python-mysqldb
1839 [15:20:07] <judd> Package: python-mysqldb on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.3-2; jessie: 1.2.3-2.1; jessie-backports: 1.3.7-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.3.7-1+b1; stretch: 1.3.7-1+b1
1840 [15:20:09] <dvs> ,v python-mysqldb
1841 [15:20:10] <judd> Package: python-mysqldb on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.3-2; jessie: 1.2.3-2.1; jessie-backports: 1.3.7-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.3.7-1+b1; stretch: 1.3.7-1+b1
1842 [15:20:12] <babilen> aexl: A little
1843 [15:20:15] <dvs> doh
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1846 [15:20:48] <han-solo> thanks
1847 [15:20:48] <babilen> han-solo: Could you paste your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy python-mysqldb" to replaced-url
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1849 [15:21:44] <aexl> babilen: okay
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1852 [15:22:04] <aexl> is anyone using iceweasel 38.8? or firefox 45.5 for that matter?
1853 [15:22:32] <han-solo> babilen: replaced-url
1854 [15:23:56] <babilen> han-solo: I'd clean that up a little (remove commented lines and stick with one mirror), but that should be okay. What is the output of the aforementioned "apt-cache policy python-mysqldb" ?
1855 [15:24:10] <babilen> Also make sure to run "apt update" beforehand
1856 [15:24:21] <babilen> (feel free to paste the output of that also)
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1858 [15:25:04] <hantu> i'm using firefox esr, just made the switch last night from ice weasel
1859 [15:25:10] <han-solo> yeah, i'm kinda running on a 5kbps(avg) connection
1860 [15:25:15] <han-solo> so can't do much of the downloading stuff, as i'd like :)
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1862 [15:26:10] <aexl> hantu: okay
1863 [15:26:13] <aexl> i can't apt update either. it's stuck at 47% ...
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1866 [15:28:35] <han-solo> babilen: replaced-url
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1869 [15:29:10] <babilen> han-solo: So, it clearly is available. What happens if you run "apt install python-mysqldb" ?
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1874 [15:30:23] <han-solo> works :)
1875 [15:30:36] <babilen> heh
1876 [15:30:37] <dvs> ???
1877 [15:30:47] <aexl> so should i use apt instead of apt-get nowadays?
1878 [15:31:07] * babilen decrees it
1879 [15:31:19] <han-solo> thanks :)
1880 [15:31:20] <han-solo> what?
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1886 [15:34:57] <aexl> so what was the problem han?
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1892 [15:37:23] <aexl> btw it's my settings. a new firefox profile does what i want.
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1910 [15:46:33] <oo_miguel> Usually i am trying to use only software that ships with my linux distro (in this case debian, which I get throug apt-get) however sometimes I need to download some other software (often open source) from the internet. I wonder what approaches there are and which to choose, not to comprimise my system. Does it make sense to run them on a seperate user-account?
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1912 [15:47:54] <oo_miguel> I am talking about android-studio in particular at this moment, but I already faaced this dilemma before with other software.
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1916 [15:50:35] <hehe> oo_miguel: aah.. check the checksum of the file
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1919 [15:51:34] <aexl> compromise?
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1921 [15:52:10] <oo_miguel> like install something that debian is not in charge of that might potentially damage my system
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1923 [15:53:05] <aexl> i doubt another user account will help you. unless you only install it in your user folder without root rights.
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1925 [15:53:46] <oo_miguel> aexl: yes thats what I have in mind. I want to install it on my desktop system only for myself
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1928 [15:54:44] <aexl> if you do it in your user folder without root rights you wouldn't need another user account. but i'm no pro.
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1932 [15:55:38] <hehe> oo_miguel: Have a look at yaourt. It might help u
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1936 [15:56:04] <oo_miguel> aexl: But it might potentially damage the stuff my user account has permissions to :P
1937 [15:56:16] <oo_miguel> hehe: ok, ill have a look. thanks
1938 [15:56:43] <aexl> oo_miguel: your user account has rights to change your system?
1939 [15:56:54] <oo_miguel> aexl: has rights to change MY files
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1941 [15:57:03] <hehe> oo_miguel: if you are so careful about your system security then read the source; if thats not possible look out the check sums
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1944 [15:57:59] <oo_miguel> yeah, reading and fully understanding the source code, and checking for hidden backdoors etc would be the best solution. but I suppose it would take me a few years at least :P
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1947 [15:59:11] <oo_miguel> nvm . I will simply run it as another user for now. thanks for your suggestions
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1974 [16:09:55] <dionyziz> Hi. I'm getting the locale error I am showing here: replaced-url
1975 [16:09:59] <dionyziz> It's a brand new installation.
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1977 [16:10:11] <dionyziz> I get the error when I run "git submodules status" and other commands.
1978 [16:10:20] <dionyziz> I tried some of the solutions here replaced-url
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1980 [16:10:26] <dionyziz> I also read this: replaced-url
1981 [16:10:40] <dionyziz> as well as the debian wiki: replaced-url
1982 [16:10:53] <dionyziz> I have tried purging and reinstalling the package 'locales'
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1986 [16:11:16] <dionyziz> I have ran dpkg-reconfigure locals, selecting en_us.UTF-8 using the space bar, which is the locale I want
1987 [16:11:22] <dvs> dpkg-reconfigure locales?
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1990 [16:11:53] <dionyziz> dvs: I have done this.
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1992 [16:12:14] <dionyziz> also, /etc/locale.gen seems correct - the line en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 is not commented out.
1993 [16:12:37] <dionyziz> also, when I run locale-gen as root, I see "Generating locales (this might take a while)" and my locale is listed below.
1994 [16:12:41] <dionyziz> So I'm guessing it's aware of it.
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1996 [16:13:15] <dionyziz> This is the exact output of locale-gen:
1997 [16:13:16] <dionyziz> Generating locales (this might take a while)... en_US.UTF-8... done
1998 [16:13:16] <dionyziz> Generation complete.
1999 [16:13:36] <dionyziz> Do I need to do some update in my existing user accounts, a reboot, or some other 'uncache'?
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2003 [16:15:03] <teraflops> dionyziz: what's the output of localectl list-locales ?
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2011 [16:16:56] <dionyziz> teraflops: when I run `localectl list-locales` as root, I get two lines as output: C.UTF-8
2012 [16:16:59] <dionyziz> en_US.utf8
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2018 [16:18:44] <teraflops> dionyziz: tried `locale-gen en_US.UTF-8` (as root)?
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2020 [16:20:23] <dionyziz> teraflops: no, let me run this now
2021 [16:20:27] <julius_> hi
2022 [16:20:39] <dionyziz> teraflops: OK it ran and it told me "en_US.UTF-8... done".
2023 [16:21:02] <julius_> when i run this on a remote debian jessie via ssh: tc qdisc add dev $dev root handle 1: hfsc default 100 i lose the network connection, i did set dev=eth0 before. any idea what could cause the drop?
2024 [16:21:03] <dionyziz> teraflops: now when I try as dionyziz to run 'git submodules status' in a directory, I get the same problem.
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2027 [16:22:10] <teraflops> dionyziz: log out and log in again or start a new tty session
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2030 [16:23:15] <dionyziz> teraflops: I disconnected from ssh as dionyziz, reconnected, and reran the git submodules command, and I still get the same error
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2033 [16:23:51] <dionyziz> teraflops: let me try to reboot the machine
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2036 [16:24:15] <teraflops> hmm, you only get the locale error when doing git submodules?
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2038 [16:25:23] <teraflops> dionyziz: also the remote machine has the en_US locales generated correctly?
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2041 [16:25:59] <dionyziz> teraflops: I rebooted and the error persists.
2042 [16:26:16] <dionyziz> teraflops: No, I am using 'git submodule status' as a test command. I now also tried 'apt-get install netcat' and I get the same perl error.
2043 [16:26:25] <dionyziz> It is not preventing me from doing anything, it is just annoying and seems that something is broken.
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2045 [16:27:02] <Stranger09> i am using mpv on thinkpad i5 2nd gen with 4gb ram, on debian,, 1080p video lags sometimes, and i get horizontal line │ antispace
2046 [16:27:04] <Stranger09> │ often as frames change y
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2049 [16:27:16] <teraflops> dionyziz: on the remote machine or in the local one?
2050 [16:27:18] <Stranger09> i am using mpv on thinkpad i5 2nd gen with 4gb ram, on debian,, 1080p video lags sometimes, and i get horizontal line often as frames change
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2052 [16:27:31] <Stranger09> i am using debian 8.6
2053 [16:27:49] <nkuttler> Stranger09: which gpu?
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2055 [16:28:37] <Stranger09> intel sandybridge
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2063 [16:29:12] <teraflops> dionyziz: you said through ssh… do yuo get the error locally or when doing ssh?
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2066 [16:29:35] <teraflops> you*
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2070 [16:30:22] <Stranger09> nkuttler: what to do?
2071 [16:30:26] <teraflops> Stranger09: debian jessie? you mean intel gpu?
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2073 [16:30:41] <nkuttler> Stranger09: never used intel graphics
2074 [16:30:42] <dionyziz> teraflops: I do not have local access to this debian machine. It is a linode.
2075 [16:30:42] <Stranger09> teraflops: yes intel gpu
2076 [16:30:50] <dionyziz> teraflops: I can only test it by sshing into it.
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2078 [16:31:03] <teraflops> _tremo: that's not what I asked
2079 [16:31:05] <teraflops> ^
2080 [16:31:21] <Stranger09> teraflops: can u help
2081 [16:31:48] <nkuttler> Stranger09: google for intel linux tearing i guess
2082 [16:31:49] <teraflops> dionyziz: you get the locale error in the remote machine or in your local machine?
2083 [16:32:48] <dionyziz> teraflops: My local machine is a mac laptop. I ssh from my mac laptop into the debian linux box. I get the error when I run 'apt-get' or 'git submodule' in the debian box, which I do using the ssh connection. If I run 'git submodule' in my local laptop, I do not get the error.
2084 [16:32:50] <teraflops> Stranger09: with any video or just that one?
2085 [16:32:59] <teraflops> dionyziz: ah
2086 [16:33:39] <Stranger09> teraflops:on all i get horizontal lines
2087 [16:34:31] <jelly> Stranger09: is i965-va-driver installed?
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2090 [16:35:14] <Stranger09> jelly yes
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2094 [16:35:36] <jelly> Stranger09: any difference if you mpv --hwdec=vaapi ?
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2098 [16:37:58] <jelly> Stranger09: pastebin the output of "vainfo" (install the package with the same name if it's missing)
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2101 [16:38:40] <teraflops> for avoiding tearing I'd go with: using modesetting + vaapi or give a try to tearfree
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2103 [16:39:43] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2104 [16:40:04] <dionyziz> teraflops: by the way, when I run locale -a as dionyziz on the debian box, I get the error "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory"
2105 [16:40:04] <teraflops> Stranger09: I asked if that happens with _any_ video
2106 [16:40:13] <dionyziz> I don't understand what this means though.
2107 [16:40:24] <jhutchins> ,v firefox
2108 [16:40:25] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 50.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 50.0-2
2109 [16:40:47] <dionyziz> same error as root
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2113 [16:41:51] <jelly> Stranger09: looks alright. 4GiB RAM is a bit on the low side these days if you have a web browser running at the same time
2114 [16:41:52] <trilton> Hello. I'm looking for some help with a killswitch script that has an error? Is anyone available to take a look please?
2115 [16:42:26] <jelly> Stranger09: any difference with --hwdec=vaapi ?
2116 [16:42:41] <teraflops> dionyziz: tried with a clean (new created) user? also do you have hardcoded custom locale in any dotfile?
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2118 [16:43:47] <Stranger09> teraflops: yes on all videos
2119 [16:44:08] <Stranger09> jelly: no
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2122 [16:44:56] <jelly> Stranger09: does mpv stdout show vaapi is being found and used?
2123 [16:45:21] <n4dir> trilton: you could try shellcheck , a website, or "set -e" to see where to error occurs
2124 [16:45:38] <jhutchins> ,v chromium
2125 [16:45:39] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 53.0.2785.89-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; sid: 53.0.2785.143-1; stretch: 53.0.2785.143-1; experimental: 53.0.2785.143-1+exp1
2126 [16:46:02] <teraflops> Stranger09: mind sharing the output of mpv while playing the video, it's something like replaced-url
2127 [16:46:26] <dionyziz> teraflops: let me try with a new user now
2128 [16:46:31] <trilton> @n4dir, Hi, i don't know how to fix the error i see, i'm just reusing a script :(
2129 [16:47:13] <Stranger09> jelly: how to chk thata
2130 [16:47:22] <jhutchins> trilton: We can't help unless you show us the error.
2131 [16:47:25] <jhutchins> trilton: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead?
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2133 [16:47:45] <n4dir> trilton: i sure am not the right person to look for your error. I do what i said. But pastebinit the script, so someone can have a look. Or at least post the error you see (that is in short: don't ask to ask, just ask :-) )
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2135 [16:48:05] <jelly> Stranger09: you ought to see some libva lines, ending with something like
2136 [16:48:07] <n4dir> ah, you are already in good hands. good luck.
2137 [16:48:08] <jelly> libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_36
2138 [16:48:08] <jelly> libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
2139 [16:48:31] <Stranger09> libav/video: hevc: Could not find ref with POC 24
2140 [16:49:14] <jelly> ah, hevc
2141 [16:49:19] <trilton> This is my script, it is a killswitch to work with OpenVPN
2142 [16:49:19] <trilton> replaced-url
2143 [16:49:30] <trilton> The error is an unexpected end
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2146 [16:49:41] <jelly> Stranger09: sandybridge doesn't have hw acceleration for HEVC (H.265)
2147 [16:49:56] <teraflops> Stranger09: I asked if it happens with any video…
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2150 [16:50:12] <Stranger09> jelly: replaced-url
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2152 [16:50:39] <noahmg123> How can I make the dash only show applications from the current workspace?
2153 [16:50:43] <jelly> Stranger09: try H264, eg. mpv --hwdec=vaapi --cache=32768 'replaced-url
2154 [16:50:50] <Stranger09> teraflops: i happens with all 720p above videos
2155 [16:50:57] <teraflops> Stranger09: cplayer?
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2157 [16:51:20] <dionyziz> teraflops: I have now created a new user called 'tester'. I used ssh to login as tester. I cloned a git repo and ran 'git submodule status' in it, and I get the same error.
2158 [16:51:37] <Stranger09> teraflops: what cplayer
2159 [16:51:38] <teraflops> dionyziz: i have no idea then, sorry
2160 [16:51:50] <dionyziz> Examining the default files in the new tester account, I only see a relevant ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc, both of which do not seem to contain locale-specific settings.
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2162 [16:52:05] <dionyziz> teraflops: OK, thanks for all your help :)
2163 [16:52:12] <teraflops> Stranger09: dis yo read what you pasted?
2164 [16:52:13] <n4dir> trilton: replaced-url
2165 [16:52:16] <jelly> Stranger09: looks like you have incompatible config files, both global and ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf
2166 [16:52:30] <teraflops> dionyziz: that's a bit weird tbh
2167 [16:52:34] <jelly> Stranger09: and you're still trying a file with HEVC
2168 [16:52:48] <dionyziz> teraflops: Yes, I think so too.
2169 [16:53:24] <dionyziz> Talking of which, `adduser`, and `deluser` also showed that error, ironically.
2170 [16:53:34] <teraflops> Stranger09: from where did you get that /home/thinkpad/.config/mpv/mpv.conf file?
2171 [16:53:54] <teraflops> dionyziz: with any command I suspect
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2173 [16:54:13] <Stranger09> teraflops: do u want me remove that,
2174 [16:54:22] <teraflops> Stranger09: at least rename it
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2176 [16:54:38] <Stranger09> teraflops: rename it to what
2177 [16:54:44] <dionyziz> teraflops: The easiest way to reproduce seems to just run `perl` :)
2178 [16:54:55] <BeautifulBash> How come I cant install libgcrypt11-dev on my Debian Jessie system? It keeps coming back with libgcrypt11-dev conflicts with libgcrypt-dev
2179 [16:54:55] <BeautifulBash> libgcrypt20-dev provides libgcrypt-dev and is present and installed.
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2181 [16:55:05] <teraflops> Stranger09: to whatever you want that way you avoid mpv using it
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2184 [16:55:15] <jelly> ,v libgcrypt11-dev
2185 [16:55:16] <judd> Package: libgcrypt11-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.0-5+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.5.0-5+deb7u5; jessie: 1.5.4-3+really1.6.3-2+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.5.4-3+really1.6.3-2+deb8u2; sid: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.3-2; stretch: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.3-2
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2187 [16:55:43] <BeautifulBash> and whenever I try and remove libgcrypt20 it just comes back with dependency errors like so: libnepomuk4 : Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.7.56) but it is not going to be installed
2188 [16:55:43] <BeautifulBash> libssh2-1 : Depends: libgcrypt20 (>= 1.6.1) but it is not going to be installed
2189 [16:55:43] <BeautifulBash> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
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2191 [16:55:49] <jelly> BeautifulBash: remove libgcrypt20-dev then, and install libgcrypt11-dev afterwards
2192 [16:55:58] <jelly> ,v libgcrypt20-dev
2193 [16:55:59] <judd> Package: libgcrypt20-dev on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.3-2+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.6.3-2+deb8u2; sid: 1.7.3-2; stretch: 1.7.3-2
2194 [16:56:05] <BeautifulBash> jelly, I tried, but it comes back with dependency errors
2195 [16:56:17] <jelly> !bat
2196 [16:56:17] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2197 [16:56:26] <jelly> BeautifulBash: ^^ provide all the info
2198 [16:56:29] <teraflops> Stranger09: then don't use any, just run mpv --hwdec=vaapi --vo=vaapi yourvideofile
2199 [16:56:35] <BeautifulBash> jelly, Will do, sec
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2201 [16:57:21] <Stranger09> jelly on using mpv --hwdec=vaapi --cache=32768
2202 [16:57:32] <Stranger09> still horizontal lines on frame change
2203 [16:57:45] <aexl> my problem was that i had "Show location of pointer" activated (Gnome->Tweak Tool->Keyboard and Mouse). so everytime i pressed ctrl it would take control from the location bar or some such. it's just strange that this does not happen with a new firefox profile ...
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2205 [16:58:01] <jelly> Stranger09: did you move away broken config files?
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2208 [16:59:18] <dionyziz> teraflops: I fixed it. Removing `AcceptEnv LANG LC_*
2209 [16:59:24] <dionyziz> ` from sshd_config did the trick.
2210 [16:59:39] <dionyziz> Your pointers were a lot of help, thank you.
2211 [17:01:31] <teraflops> dionyziz: yeah you fixed it
2212 [17:02:17] <n4dir> trilton: might well be that is exactly your problem (declare the var=$(command) ; and then check for the exit code. I would not bet that it returns what you expect it does. check with 'echo "$?"' on it's own line , to check that)
2213 [17:02:23] <teraflops> Stranger09: is the mpv output now saner?
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2215 [17:03:07] <Stranger09> i purged mpv , removed config files, installed again
2216 [17:03:12] <Stranger09> still same
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2221 [17:04:06] <teraflops> removed config files includes ~/.config/mpv? is the output of mpv --hwdec=vaapi --vo=vaapi now saner?
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2226 [17:05:02] <Stranger09> teraflops: replaced-url
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2228 [17:05:21] <jelly> that's much better
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2230 [17:05:31] <teraflops> yeah but oure not using vaapi
2231 [17:05:37] <jelly> still a HEVC file tho
2232 [17:05:42] <teraflops> because the codec
2233 [17:06:04] <Stranger09> jelly: wait i will try on another codec
2234 [17:06:31] <teraflops> Stranger09: try with another video file
2235 [17:06:48] <teraflops> not on the same folder :P
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2238 [17:07:15] <jelly> I can play 720p and 1080p HEVC/H.265 stuff on my older i5-650, a sandybridge i3 _ought_ to be good enough for sw decoding
2239 [17:07:21] <the_sniff> I just logged in to 2 servers i have, using the same cifs server for rsnapshot, both of them showed the mount as access denied, one could umount it, the second one i had to force it, and the second one also had a "running" rsnapshot process since 9 days ago that was stuck (didnt think to strace it before killing it), killing it didnt make the umount without force work though. remounting them
2240 [17:07:21] <the_sniff> "fixed" the access denied issue, but logs don't provide with much help. Anyway to check if its on the storage server side? I only have Samba access to it as a regular user
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2249 [17:09:58] <jelly> I guess I could try installing jessie on my T420s (sandybridge) thinkpad, see if its i5-2520M _really_ isn't good enough
2250 [17:10:02] <jelly> nah!
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2252 [17:11:03] <the_sniff> good enough for what?
2253 [17:11:04] <Stranger09> jelly: i have jessie on thinkapad t420
2254 [17:11:13] <Stranger09> jelly: i have jessie on thinkapad t420 i5 2nd gen
2255 [17:11:24] <jelly> the_sniff: playing 1080p hevc files
2256 [17:11:46] <jelly> dunno which hevc profile
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2258 [17:12:28] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2259 [17:12:35] <Stranger09> it worked smooth
2260 [17:12:37] <the_sniff> is the 2520m that weak?
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2264 [17:13:39] <teraflops> Stranger09: anyway as jelly says even using swdec it should play fine
2265 [17:13:40] <Stranger09> jelly: teraflops : how will x256 or x246 x265 work smooth my system
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2268 [17:14:01] <Stranger09> teraflops: how to use swdec
2269 [17:14:16] <teraflops> Stranger09: youe already using it
2270 [17:14:19] <teraflops> youre*
2271 [17:14:38] <Stranger09> and how can i use --hwdec==vaapi --vo=vaapi by default for all video files
2272 [17:15:00] <teraflops> Stranger09: give a try to modesetting or tearfree
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2274 [17:15:12] <Stranger09> teraflops: wherer
2275 [17:15:18] <teraflops> Stranger09: there
2276 [17:15:34] <Stranger09> inside mpv config file
2277 [17:16:18] <teraflops> Stranger09: yeah inside, you mean how?
2278 [17:16:29] <Stranger09> teraflops: yes
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2280 [17:17:12] <teraflops> vo=vaapi and behind in a new line hwdec=vaapi
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2282 [17:18:29] <teraflops> Stranger09: modesetting + vaapi got rid of tearing here using intel HD3000, tearfree too but tearfree has disadvantages
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2292 [17:20:29] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2293 [17:20:43] <Stranger09> inside mpv config
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2295 [17:21:04] <Stranger09> anything else i should add to config file
2296 [17:21:08] <teraflops> Stranger09: please paste the whole file
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2298 [17:21:46] <Stranger09> here it is replaced-url
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2306 [17:25:12] <teraflops> Stranger09: yep it's fine, hmm does debian install that mpv.conf file by default?
2307 [17:25:22] <Stranger09> yes
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2313 [17:26:32] <Stranger09> is there high performance mode for debian, as in windows
2314 [17:26:44] <nkuttler> Stranger09: what does that do?
2315 [17:26:51] <teraflops> huh no idea
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2318 [17:27:16] <Stranger09> teraflops: i still get horizontal line on 1080p
2319 [17:27:25] <Stranger09> teraflops: 720p
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2322 [17:28:02] <teraflops> Stranger09: I think youre getting tearing, is not about performance is about xf86 video intel is just crap
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2327 [17:28:29] <Stranger09> teraflops: what should i do to resolve tearing
2328 [17:28:31] <teraflops> Stranger09: that's why I suggested you giving a try to modesetting
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2331 [17:28:41] <teraflops> or just tearfree
2332 [17:28:49] <teraflops> this is the 4th tine I said the same
2333 [17:28:51] <Stranger09> teraflops: how to try modesetting
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2335 [17:29:30] <teraflops> uninstall xserver-xorg-video-intel and reboot
2336 [17:30:14] <teraflops> Stranger09: also make sure you do not have any intel related snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2339 [17:32:32] <Stranger09> i purged xserver*
2340 [17:32:52] <Stranger09> i dont hve any xorg.conf.d inside X11
2341 [17:33:33] <Stranger09> i have xinit folder inside X11
2342 [17:34:44] <teraflops> Stranger09: I said xserver-xorg-video-intel
2343 [17:34:50] <Stranger09> yes that
2344 [17:35:40] <Stranger09> no xorg.conf.d file
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2347 [17:36:10] <teraflops> i purged xserver* ←
2348 [17:36:20] <teraflops> what packages do yuo purged specifically?
2349 [17:36:23] <teraflops> you*
2350 [17:36:26] <Stranger09> xserver-xorg-video-intel
2351 [17:36:30] <teraflops> only?
2352 [17:37:15] <Stranger09> yesreplaced-url
2353 [17:37:22] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2354 [17:37:44] <teraflops> Stranger09: yea reboot
2355 [17:37:50] <Stranger09> k
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2360 [17:41:08] <Stranger09> teraflops: still on hx256, hx254
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2362 [17:41:21] <Stranger09> teraflops: still on 720p and 1080p
2363 [17:41:55] <teraflops> same?
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2365 [17:42:50] <Stranger09> horizontal lines on farme change
2366 [17:42:53] <teraflops> Stranger09: mind sharing your xorg log file?
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2368 [17:43:31] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2369 [17:43:37] <Stranger09> what error is it
2370 [17:44:49] <teraflops> it looks like a typo. cale instead of scale, also I asked for the xorg log file
2371 [17:45:56] <Stranger09> i have 6 files there
2372 [17:46:04] <Stranger09> Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old Xorg.1.log Xorg.1.log.old Xorg.2.log Xorg.2.log.old
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2374 [17:46:34] <teraflops> Stranger09: also it looks like mpv does silly things on debian like a huge config file with profile encodings
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2377 [17:47:56] <Stranger09> which log file should i share
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2384 [17:50:24] <teraflops> Stranger09: ifk look at the newer one
2385 [17:50:28] <teraflops> idk*
2386 [17:51:40] <teraflops> Stranger09: what does echo $DISPLAY return?
2387 [17:52:00] <teraflops> 0 1 or 2?
2388 [17:52:15] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2389 [17:53:15] <pos> Is the rolling wall of text post-initramfs logged anywhere? I find some of it in syslog and dmesg but I'd like to see it all
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2391 [17:53:56] <Stranger09> i get on vlc as well but when frames move quickly
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2394 [17:55:23] <ksft-mobile> I was having trouble with wifi, and I asked for help here.
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2396 [17:56:10] <ksft-mobile> I was going to try to fix it later when I would be using a wired connection
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2399 [17:56:49] <ksft-mobile> I just plugged in the ethernet cable, and it isn't connecting
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2401 [17:57:08] <goldbox> hi all
2402 [17:57:09] <teraflops> Stranger09: yeah youre using modesetting
2403 [17:57:13] <ksft-mobile> ifconfig lists eth0
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2406 [17:58:00] <teraflops> wich gpu is this? intel what
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2408 [17:58:07] <goldbox> why i cannot stop iptables ?
2409 [17:58:16] <goldbox> replaced-url
2410 [17:58:25] <Stranger09> teraflops: its intel sandybridge
2411 [17:58:41] <teraflops> Stranger09: a laptop?
2412 [17:58:58] <Stranger09> thinkpad t420 i5 2nd gen
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2415 [18:00:18] <teraflops> Stranger09: looks like an intel HD3000
2416 [18:00:30] <Stranger09> this log file is after i removed xserver intel, and rebooted
2417 [18:00:41] <pos> Intel HD3000 = ivy bridge
2418 [18:00:48] <teraflops> Stranger09: yeah youre using modesetting now
2419 [18:01:01] <Stranger09> what should i do now
2420 [18:01:10] <teraflops> pos: no idea I just googled thinkpad t420 i5 2nd gen specs
2421 [18:01:26] <teraflops> Stranger09: I run out of ideas to be honest
2422 [18:01:30] <Stranger09> haha
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2424 [18:02:03] <teraflops> Stranger09: give a try to xorg intel driver + tearfree or try a backported kernel since modesetting pulls from kernel directly
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2427 [18:04:44] <Stranger09> teraflops: where should i use tearfree option
2428 [18:05:02] <Stranger09> and didnt i had installed xorg intel driver before
2429 [18:05:14] <Stranger09> which u said remove
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2432 [18:05:50] <teraflops> Stranger09: in a xorg snippet inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2434 [18:06:16] <teraflops> Stranger09: youll need to install xserver-xorg-video-intel
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2436 [18:06:42] <goldbox> hell is debian:(
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2438 [18:07:31] <Stranger09> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
2439 [18:07:32] <Stranger09> xserver-xorg-video-intel : Depends: xorg-video-abi-18
2440 [18:07:36] <Stranger09> error
2441 [18:07:47] <ksft-mobile> I can't get my computer to connect on a wired connection
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2445 [18:08:22] <ksft-mobile> ifconfig lists eth0
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2448 [18:08:35] <pos> ksft-mobile, ethtool
2449 [18:08:38] <ksft-mobile> nmcli d does too
2450 [18:08:44] <ksft-mobile> pos: what's that?
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2452 [18:08:51] <pos> ksft-mobile, check if it reports link status etc
2453 [18:08:57] <pos> ksft-mobile, man ethtool
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2455 [18:09:29] <teraflops> Stranger09: huh
2456 [18:09:30] <ksft-mobile> pos: I don't seem to have that installed
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2458 [18:09:38] <Stranger09> teraflops: replaced-url
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2460 [18:09:45] <pos> ksft-mobile, you could aslo try "tcpdump -i eth0" and check whether it even picks up any traffic
2461 [18:09:58] <pos> ksft-mobile, must be run with sudo/root
2462 [18:09:59] <teraflops> Stranger09: yep
2463 [18:10:07] <ksft-mobile> pos: I tried that
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2465 [18:10:16] <Stranger09> teraflops: if install -testing xserver-*
2466 [18:10:16] <ksft-mobile> same with tcpdump
2467 [18:10:16] <teraflops> Stranger09: put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
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2469 [18:10:29] <teraflops> Stranger09: what
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2472 [18:10:50] <ksft-mobile> the light on the router next to the cable is on
2473 [18:10:59] <pos> ksft-mobile, "ip a"
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2476 [18:11:05] <Stranger09> apt-get install -t testing xserver-*
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2478 [18:11:15] <pos> ksft-mobile, for eth0, does it say NO-CARRIER or UP?
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2480 [18:11:33] <teraflops> Stranger09: -t testing xserver-*? what's that?
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2482 [18:12:04] <Xenthys> hi
2483 [18:12:05] <ksft-mobile> pos: it says "eth0 <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP>"
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2485 [18:12:15] <Stranger09> apt-get install -t testing Xserver-xorg-video-intel
2486 [18:12:19] <ksft-mobile> pos: so, "UP"
2487 [18:12:19] <teraflops> Stranger09: debian jessie?
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2489 [18:12:23] <pos> ksft-mobile, so it knows that it has a link. good
2490 [18:12:30] <teraflops> whet the hell is -t testing
2491 [18:12:32] <pos> ksft-mobile, you get nothing from tcpdump?
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2494 [18:12:38] <teraflops> what*
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2496 [18:12:45] <Stranger09> stretch
2497 [18:12:50] <Xenthys> I have servers running under Jessie, should replaced-url
2498 [18:12:51] <ksft-mobile> pos: I don't seem to have tcpdump installed
2499 [18:13:07] <teraflops> Stranger09: do you have a frankendebian?
2500 [18:13:11] <pos> ksft-mobile, wireshark or tshark then?
2501 [18:13:18] <Stranger09> teraflops: what?
2502 [18:13:19] <teraflops> Stranger09: are you doing pining?
2503 [18:13:33] <ksft-mobile> pos: no
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2505 [18:13:41] <pos> ksft-mobile, ifconfig eth0
2506 [18:13:48] <Stranger09> replaced-url
2507 [18:13:53] <pos> ksft-mobile, rx/tx packets
2508 [18:14:05] <ksft-mobile> er, actually, I have Wireshark on another partition
2509 [18:14:22] <ksft-mobile> pos: 191 and 21
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2512 [18:14:33] <pos> ksft-mobile, are they increasing?
2513 [18:14:42] <ksft-mobile> just ran it again
2514 [18:14:46] <teraflops> Stranger09: sorry youre are in your own if you setup pining there
2515 [18:14:47] <ksft-mobile> 193 and 21
2516 [18:14:53] <ksft-mobile> so one is
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2518 [18:15:12] <pos> well, if it reports as having received any packets the HW should be fine
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2520 [18:15:14] <ksft-mobile> RX packets but not TX packets
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2524 [18:15:38] <teraflops> on*
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2526 [18:16:09] <ksft-mobile> pos: RX packets is increasing, but TX packets isn't
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2530 [18:16:39] <pos> ksft-mobile, meaning that the interface is seeing traffic from the network
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2533 [18:17:10] <ksft-mobile> then why doesn't, for example, ping work?
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2536 [18:17:30] <pos> ksft-mobile, dhcp/static ip?
2537 [18:17:41] <ksft-mobile> I don't know what that means
2538 [18:17:53] <ksft-mobile> I don't think I have a static IP address
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2540 [18:18:23] <pos> ksft-mobile, to be able to communicate with other devices on the network you'll have to configure the interface
2541 [18:18:44] <pos> ksft-mobile, this is done either by receiving those settings from a dhcp server on the network or by static configuration
2542 [18:18:45] <ksft-mobile> okay, how do I do that?
2543 [18:18:49] <ksft-mobile> oh
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2546 [18:19:55] <pos> ksft-mobile, you said that you are trying to ping a specific IP address
2547 [18:20:21] <ksft-mobile> to check whether it's working, yes
2548 [18:20:33] <pos> ksft-mobile, which address?
2549 [18:20:40] <ksft-mobile> I tried 8.8.8.8
2550 [18:20:44] <pos> right
2551 [18:20:53] <ksft-mobile> woah
2552 [18:20:57] <ksft-mobile> it's working now
2553 [18:21:07] <pos> ...
2554 [18:21:33] <ksft-mobile> thank you for…whatever made it work
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2559 [18:21:45] <pos> ksft-mobile, "dhclient eth0" will make the interface request config from dhcp
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2573 [18:28:59] <ksft> I'm trying to follow these instructions: replaced-url
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2576 [18:29:34] <ksft> when I try to install the package, apt says this: E: Package 'firmware-b43-lpphy-installer' has no installation candidate
2577 [18:29:36] <stefunel> is there a way to make pam-auth-update use custom rules from somewhere else other than /usr/share/pam-configs? I'd like to avoid modifying files in there
2578 [18:30:08] <ksft> Package firmware-b43-lpphy-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
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2580 [18:30:29] <ksft> it says that firmware-b43-installer replaces it
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2582 [18:31:08] <ksft> the instructions on the wiki say that that's for different chips, though
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2600 [18:38:54] <unborn> ksft: well, you have been provided with hand-full information right a way - are you still having the issues to install your package?
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2603 [18:39:39] <ksft> unborn: the information on the wiki is out of date?
2604 [18:40:13] <unborn> ksft: I do not think so sir, I think you may perhaps reading it - in wrong way
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2606 [18:40:53] <unborn> - just tale a moment to re - read
2607 [18:41:13] <unborn> *take
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2609 [18:42:35] <ksft> I'm not sure what you think I misread.
2610 [18:42:46] <ksft> Can you point it out?
2611 [18:43:00] <jelly> stuff on debian wiki can often be outdated, haven't looked at this particular article
2612 [18:43:30] <jelly> ksft: what's the pciid or usbid for your interface?
2613 [18:43:38] <ksft> what it says there
2614 [18:43:49] <ksft> 14e4:4315
2615 [18:44:13] <jelly> ,pciid 14e4:4315
2616 [18:44:14] <judd> [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY' from 'Broadcom Limited' with kernel module 'ssb' in jessie. See also replaced-url
2617 [18:44:25] <ksft> oh wait
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2619 [18:44:34] <unborn> ksft: sure I cannot as you did not say clearly what is your problem with installing that package.. I am more then million times sure debian wikis are not out of the date. they can be often outdated but regards your install, I think they are up to date..
2620 [18:44:37] <jelly> that's wireless
2621 [18:44:51] <ksft> no, it's 14e4:43b1
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2624 [18:45:04] <jelly> judd: pciid 14e4:43b1
2625 [18:45:05] <judd> [14e4:43b1] is 'BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Broadcom Limited' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also replaced-url
2626 [18:45:07] <ksft> unborn: you were right
2627 [18:45:17] <ksft> that's it
2628 [18:45:17] <jelly> that's apparently also wireless? :-)
2629 [18:45:20] <ksft> yes
2630 [18:45:29] <ksft> that's what I'm having trouble with
2631 [18:45:41] <unborn> :)
2632 [18:45:46] <jelly> !BCM4352
2633 [18:45:46] <dpkg> Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the Broadcom BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225, BCM43227, BCM43228, BCM43142, BCM4331, BCM4352 and BCM4360 chips. To install (amd64 and i386 only), see replaced-url
2634 [18:45:51] <unborn> ksft: great!
2635 [18:47:18] <ksft> I followed the instructions on the wl wiki page
2636 [18:47:18] <jelly> so you either have to use wl, or try a jessie-backports kernel and this "bcma" thing
2637 [18:48:24] <ksft> `modprobe wl` says this: replaced-url
2638 [18:49:46] <jelly> ksft: but broadcom-sta-dkms is installed?
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2640 [18:50:16] <ksft> jelly: yes
2641 [18:50:50] <jelly> ksft: pastebin the output of "dpkg-reconfigure broadcom-sta-dkms"
2642 [18:51:52] <jelly> ksft: also did you run modprobe as root or as normal user? It has to be run as root.
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2644 [18:52:17] <ksft> jelly: replaced-url
2645 [18:52:27] <ksft> yes, I ran it as root
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2650 [18:53:29] <jelly> ksft: so you have an old jessie-backports kernel running right now
2651 [18:53:31] <jelly> ,kernels
2652 [18:53:32] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.8.0-1-686-pae (4.8.7-1); stretch: 4.8.0-1-686-pae (4.8.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2656 [18:54:09] <jelly> ksft: install and boot a newer jessie-backports kernel image _and_ matching kernel headers
2657 [18:54:19] <ksft> how/
2658 [18:54:22] <ksft> ?*
2659 [18:54:30] <jelly> the same way you installed it last time
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2668 [18:55:08] <jelly> !bpo kernel
2669 [18:55:08] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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2672 [18:55:44] <jelly> so, something like aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`
2673 [18:55:44] <ksft> what is a backport?
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2681 [18:56:18] <jelly> ksft: that 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 kernel version you got installed is a backport
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2696 [18:56:43] <jelly> in general,
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2698 [18:56:45] <jelly> !backport
2699 [18:56:46] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
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2704 [18:57:05] <ksft> oh
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2710 [18:57:12] <ksft> "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (x86_64)"
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2717 [18:57:25] <ksft> "Consult /var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build/make.log for more information."
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2730 [18:59:18] <ksft> should I reboot?
2731 [18:59:51] <jelly> only if you want to see whether the new kernel and the driver actually works
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2734 [19:00:29] <ksft> is there a reason I wouldn't want that?
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2736 [19:00:52] <ksft> I'm going to reboot
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2738 [19:01:01] <jelly> *thumbs up*
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2749 [19:02:49] <ksft> jelly: ifconfig still doesn't list wlan0
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2752 [19:04:20] <jelly> ksft: but does wl module exist now?
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2757 [19:10:02] <mirak> hi
2758 [19:10:23] <mirak> is there a command to verify the filesystem type of a partition ?
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2760 [19:10:43] <nkuttler> mirak: verify?
2761 [19:10:53] <mirak> nkuttler, know
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2763 [19:11:13] <nkuttler> mirak: just mount (1)
2764 [19:11:13] <jelly> mirak: blkid
2765 [19:11:28] <mirak> jelly, thanks
2766 [19:11:50] <mirak> nkuttler, it's a file, i would need to mount loop it
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2768 [19:12:52] <jelly> don't have to mount it for lsblk but you may have to losetup it manually
2769 [19:13:11] <mirak> it worked with blkid
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2771 [19:13:25] <mirak> without losetup
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2773 [19:13:49] <jelly> silly blkid, that's a file not a blk dev!
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2775 [19:14:27] <mirak> jelly, but your initial answer was correct
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2777 [19:14:45] <jelly> only by accident
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2779 [19:15:13] <mirak> penicilin and many cures where found by accident
2780 [19:15:17] <mirak> were
2781 [19:15:24] <mirak> :D
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2785 [19:16:06] <jelly> silly mold
2786 [19:16:14] <ksft> jelly: same error as before from `modprobe wl`
2787 [19:16:50] <jelly> ksft: that kind of implies they module did not build successfully?
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2789 [19:17:01] <jelly> ,v broadcom-sta-dkms
2790 [19:17:02] <judd> Package: broadcom-sta-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 5.100.82.112-8; jessie/non-free: 6.30.223.248-3; jessie-backports/non-free: 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 6.30.223.271-4; stretch/non-free: 6.30.223.271-4
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2792 [19:17:18] <jelly> ksft: get broadcom-sta-dkms from jessie-backports as well
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2795 [19:18:05] <ksft> jelly: how do I get a package from a specific source?
2796 [19:18:10] <ksft> something with -t?
2797 [19:18:11] <lcfvs> hi all
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2799 [19:18:26] <jelly> ksft: aptitude -t jessie-backports install ...
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2801 [19:19:05] <lcfvs> can you help to fix my command, please?
2802 [19:19:06] <lcfvs> find . | grep -Po "\./(entry-points/[^/]*/)?\.git$" | sed "s/\/.git//" -exec "git -C {} pull" ;
2803 [19:19:15] <ksft> jelly: "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."
2804 [19:19:17] <jelly> lcfvs: what is it supposed to do?
2805 [19:19:31] <lcfvs> the find . | grep -Po "\./(entry-points/[^/]*/)?\.git$" | sed "s/\/.git//" part is fine
2806 [19:19:43] <jimj316> Hey, is this channel relevant to the Debian installer? I'm having issues with it
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2808 [19:20:02] <jelly> ksft: which version is installed?
2809 [19:20:13] <lcfvs> now, I want to exec a command (git -C {} pull) on each result
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2812 [19:20:48] <ksft> jelly: how do I check?
2813 [19:20:54] <jimj316> I'm resizing a 1TB NTFS partition down to 666GB, where the minimum size is 650; I was expecting this to take a long time, but it's been two hours and there isn't a single pixel on the progress bar
2814 [19:21:00] <jelly> ksft: dpkg -l packagename
2815 [19:21:04] <ksft> is it the thing after the package name in --
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2818 [19:21:12] <ksft> jelly: 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1
2819 [19:21:26] <jelly> so you already have the version from bpo
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2824 [19:22:46] <petemc> lcfvs: you could not use -exec and after the sed | while read x ; do git -C pull "$x" ; done
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2826 [19:22:48] <jelly> jimj316: that may be normal if you have a slow device, perhaps. Hope you have backups of that partition
2827 [19:23:00] <jimj316> I don't :( I have nowhere to back up to
2828 [19:23:12] <jimj316> I have a backup of 10GB of important files though
2829 [19:23:20] <jimj316> But I can't afford anything more
2830 [19:24:00] <jimj316> I've done this twice before on other devices that you'd expect to be much slower, and it's worked fine
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2832 [19:24:59] <ksft> jelly: that's the one I want, right?
2833 [19:25:11] <jimj316> If I kill the installer, that'll corrupt the partition, won't it <.<
2834 [19:25:14] <jelly> jimj316: I have no idea how safe it is to interrupt the process. Maybe ask in #debian-boot over on irc.debian.org (= irc.oftc.net)
2835 [19:25:15] <lcfvs> petemc: ok, but while is unknown
2836 [19:25:26] <jimj316> I'll try there, thanks
2837 [19:25:52] <petemc> lcfvs: unknown ?
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2839 [19:25:56] <jelly> ksft: that's the one likely to work with a bpo kernel, I guess
2840 [19:26:12] <ksft> then why isn't it working?
2841 [19:26:21] <jelly> good question
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2843 [19:26:42] <lcfvs> petemc: yes, maybe because I use Cmder (on windows)
2844 [19:27:13] <jelly> ksft: "dpkg-reconfigure broadcom-sta-dkms" and pastebin the output again
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2848 [19:28:56] <ksft> jelly: replaced-url
2849 [19:29:03] <ksft> different this time
2850 [19:29:32] <petemc> lcfvs: this is not the place to ask for help for that, sorry
2851 [19:30:17] <lcfvs> petemc: it's a bash... maybe uncomplete but a bash
2852 [19:30:23] <petemc> clearly not
2853 [19:30:27] <jelly> ksft: have you booted into 4.8 now?
2854 [19:30:57] <ksft> jelly: what?
2855 [19:31:11] <ksft> oh, the kernel version?
2856 [19:31:13] <jelly> ksft: which kernel is booted now?
2857 [19:31:14] <ksft> I have no idea
2858 [19:31:23] <jelly> uname -a
2859 [19:31:26] <ksft> 4.7
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2862 [19:31:39] <jelly> wtf
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2864 [19:32:27] <jelly> oh, 4.8 is not backported yet
2865 [19:32:29] <lcfvs> petemc: i tried by using xargs (it iterates normally) but a few silently find . | grep -Po "\./(entry-points/[^/]*/public/)?\.git$" | sed "s/\/.git//" | xargs -I{} "git -C {} pull"
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2869 [19:33:10] <jelly> ksft: well then I guess you'll have to look at the logs, see how/why the build of kernel module failed, and report the bug to the backports mailing list
2870 [19:33:59] <ksft> I had wifi working just a couple weeks ago!
2871 [19:34:14] <ksft> I don't know what changed
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2873 [19:35:33] <ksft> jelly: the log at /var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build/make.log
2874 [19:35:37] <ksft> ?
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2877 [19:36:18] <jelly> yes?
2878 [19:36:53] <ksft> I don't know what I'm looking at
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2885 [19:39:35] <lcfvs> petemc: thanks anyway... just found :)
2886 [19:39:38] <lcfvs> find . | grep -Po "\./(entry-points/[^/]*/public/)?\.git$" | sed "s/\/.git//" | xargs -I {} sh -c "echo {} && git -C {} pull"
2887 [19:39:48] <lcfvs> | xargs -I {} sh -c "echo {} && git -C {} pull"
2888 [19:39:52] <lcfvs> ;)
2889 [19:39:55] <nkuttler> ew
2890 [19:40:23] <ksft> here's the log: replaced-url
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2960 [20:20:30] <tuxmax> hi how can install steam on debian 8.6
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2964 [20:20:54] <mtn> tuxmax: the wiki tells you how to do it ;)
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3008 [20:43:17] <zykotick9> any debian/mame users around? jostick support not working in version 0.160+. i'm using stable, and installing the deb from jessie's non-free repo (0.154) joystick support works fine - BUT installing the 0.160 from deb-multimedia, joystick support stops working. i first encountered this issue when using testing, and mame was upgraded from 0.154->0.16? and joystick supported died - at the time it was, j
3009 [20:43:23] <zykotick9> ust another lesson for me "why not to run testing". however, finding a solution would be helpful.
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3035 [20:58:34] <valent> I'm going crazy, can't write a simple for loop
3036 [20:58:50] <jelly> !pal valent
3037 [20:58:50] * dpkg points at valent and laughs
3038 [20:59:11] <valent> why am I getting "command not found" when just trying to set variable in a lool?
3039 [20:59:12] <valent> replaced-url
3040 [20:59:35] <valent> jelly, help out dude :)
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3042 [21:00:07] <jelly> valent: because expansion doesn't work like you want it to
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3044 [21:00:33] <valent> Can't find examples on how to do it properly :)
3045 [21:00:39] <jelly> valent: which /bin/sh are you using?
3046 [21:00:55] <TomTomTo1> also current$i <- arrays, yo.
3047 [21:01:20] <jelly> TomTomTo1: but that probably means bash or at least ksh
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3049 [21:01:31] <TomTomTo1> that too.
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3053 [21:01:52] <jelly> valent: ls -ld /bin/sh
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3055 [21:02:03] <valent> I only have sh on this embedded machine, it is a power outlet running openwrt :)
3056 [21:02:32] <jelly> then #debian is the wrong place to ask
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3059 [21:03:09] <jelly> figure out which sh you're using, first, if it's busybox or something else
3060 [21:03:14] <valent> I'm writing this script on debian but deploying it on openwrt :)
3061 [21:03:20] <valent> Yes it is busybox
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3063 [21:05:18] <jelly> are you really trying to just display those values, or do you need to do something else with them?
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3072 [21:07:16] <valent> I need to save them into variables or array, and then send them to thingspeak via wget:
3073 [21:07:50] <valent> wget replaced-url
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3079 [21:08:30] <TomTomTo1> do that inside the loop. forget about the indexed variable.
3080 [21:09:01] <valent> then I would need to run wget for each value?
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3084 [21:09:39] <jelly> I bet your wget isn't wget, either
3085 [21:10:04] <TomTomTo1> will it be a fixed number? use six distinct variables.
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3087 [21:10:23] <n4dir> my guess is storing them inside the loop in an array would make more sense (compared to the approach "currten$i"). Well: be more easy, who knows if it would make sense.
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3090 [21:10:46] <jelly> valent: I'd probably ask #bash, but be upfront and honest about the /bin/sh used
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3094 [21:12:00] <valent> jelly, wget is proper wget, but without ssl, but wget part works.
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3096 [21:12:03] <valent> jelly, thanks
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3112 [21:20:43] <squigz> I can't configure my VGA display with xrandr. "configure crtc 2 failed"
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3114 [21:20:52] <squigz> I had no issues on previous installations
3115 [21:21:15] <squigz> I'm using the fglrx driver
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3118 [21:22:26] <squigz> Oddly, the VGA display is the only one that isn't given a CRTC number in xrandr --verbose
3119 [21:22:40] <squigz> Or maybe that's jsut because it's not configured
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3127 [21:26:02] <jelly> squigz: how may simultaneous enabled outputs does your card support?
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3129 [21:26:39] <squigz> jelly: Well, I'm sure at least, because I was using all 3 2 days ago
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3131 [21:26:45] <squigz> "sure 3 at least'*
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3133 [21:26:52] <DeaDSouL> hi... does anyone live in usa?
3134 [21:27:00] <jelly> !anyone
3135 [21:27:00] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
3136 [21:27:02] <betaubuntu> do any of u guys know how to restrict access to page based on referrer in php ?
3137 [21:27:11] <squigz> betaubuntu: ##php
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3139 [21:27:18] <betaubuntu> im not invited
3140 [21:27:18] <betaubuntu> ;/
3141 [21:27:31] <squigz> You have to register with nickserv I believe
3142 [21:27:45] <jelly> betaubuntu: /msg nickserv help register
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3144 [21:28:01] <squigz> I just tried to add a new mode to the VGA display and X crashed lol...
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3146 [21:29:26] <squigz> gunna reboot
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3150 [21:30:09] <codekK> Hi i have a android image file for my old tablet. I want to mount it on my linux machine or extract it or something.. How i can do it? i tried with a lot of options around google like: squash, mount with -o loop -t auto, ext2.. some help? :p
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3155 [21:30:45] <squigz> I was hoping that would work, but alas, it didn't
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3157 [21:31:04] <squigz> How can I ensure I'm using the fglrx driver instead of the open source one?
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3160 [21:31:35] <squigz> I did install the fglrx-driver package
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3177 [21:39:04] <tuxmax> sudo command d'ont exist on debian?
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3180 [21:39:22] <missmbob> it's not installed by default. apt-get install sudo
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3182 [21:39:56] <Dracunos> sudo apt-get install sudo
3183 [21:40:07] <zophyx> you so funny
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3186 [21:40:46] <Dracunos> :D
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3188 [21:41:15] <zophyx> i had a qustion but i forgot it
3189 [21:41:31] <HenryHoneyBee> zophyx, no
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3191 [21:41:45] <zophyx> HenryHoneyBee, hi
3192 [21:41:49] <zykotick9> missmbob: /not/might not/ is you don't enter a root password in netinst, i hear you DO get sudo by default ;)
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3194 [21:42:05] <zykotick9> missmbob: s/not/might not/
3195 [21:42:19] <missmbob> zykotick9: yes. if that had been the case he'd have sudo. so it's pointless to get into details with him about why it wasn't installed
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3197 [21:42:38] <missmbob> explaining every little thing would make me want to kill myself
3198 [21:42:40] <zykotick9> missmbob: i agree with you point -- so MY bad!
3199 [21:42:44] <missmbob> heh
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3201 [21:42:59] <zophyx> i don't recall my root password
3202 [21:43:11] <jelly> !ifrp
3203 [21:43:11] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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3206 [21:43:24] <jelly> zophyx: ^^ if you forgot your root password
3207 [21:43:38] <missmbob> you have sudo, right? so just sudo passwd
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3210 [21:44:01] <zophyx> jelly, oh yeah looks good
3211 [21:44:05] <squigz> This is annoying :/
3212 [21:44:40] <zykotick9> jelly: do you know is the !ifrp up to date with systemd? <- an honest question, i don't know answer.
3213 [21:44:58] <squigz> to recap my issue: I am getting "configure crtc 2 failed" when attempting to configure my VGA monitor with xrandr. I'm using the fglrx driver
3214 [21:44:59] <zophyx> fark
3215 [21:45:08] <squigz> This has never been an issue until yesterday's reinstallation of Debian Jessie
3216 [21:45:19] <zophyx> zykotick9, good question
3217 [21:45:44] <missmbob> squigz: maybe in the last install you had the jessie-backports version?
3218 [21:45:51] <jelly> zykotick9: likewise
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3221 [21:45:59] <squigz> missmbob: I've never enabled backports myself, so probably not
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3225 [21:46:54] <squigz> please send help :P
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3228 [21:47:41] <doonz> Hey everyone was wondering if someone had some time to help me install a driver for my network card
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3231 [21:49:01] <HenryHoneyBee> what have you tried
3232 [21:49:09] <SuperTramp83> doonz: which adapter?
3233 [21:49:20] <doonz> I try to make but it fails
3234 [21:49:37] <HenryHoneyBee> with what error
3235 [21:49:39] <doonz> Its sthe startech
3236 [21:49:42] <doonz> one second
3237 [21:49:45] <missmbob> !doesnt work
3238 [21:49:45] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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3240 [21:50:03] <doonz> Makefile:89: *** Aborting the build: Linux kernel /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/build source not found. Stop.
3241 [21:50:07] <doonz> thats the error with make
3242 [21:50:36] <missmbob> you need to install linux-headers-amd64 to get those files. but you'd be better off if you'd answer our questions first
3243 [21:51:17] <doonz> THe network card is Startech ST10000SPEX
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3246 [21:51:25] <doonz> It uses the Tehuti chipset
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3248 [21:51:30] <missmbob> paste.debian.net lspci -nn
3249 [21:52:11] <squigz> how can I switch back to the open-source graphics driver?
3250 [21:52:17] <squigz> just remove the fglrx-driver package?
3251 [21:52:30] <doonz> replaced-url
3252 [21:53:07] <missmbob> ,pciid 1fc9:4025
3253 [21:53:08] <judd> [1fc9:4025] is 'TN9510 10GBase-T/NBASE-T Ethernet Adapter' from 'Tehuti Networks Ltd.' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also replaced-url
3254 [21:53:16] <doonz> Yessir thats the one
3255 [21:53:31] <missmbob> doonz: okay. apt-get install linux-headers-amd64 and try compiling again. pastebin any output
3256 [21:53:38] <missmbob> (if there's errors)
3257 [21:53:39] <doonz> ok
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3260 [21:54:52] <missmbob> should be fine. they faq says it supports Linux kernels 2.6.26 – 3.x 32/64 bit
3261 [21:54:56] <doonz> ok i performed make. it went with no problem
3262 [21:55:17] <doonz> then i just typ emake install?
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3264 [21:55:21] <missmbob> yeah
3265 [21:55:36] <missmbob> then you modprobe the module if you know the name of it or reboot
3266 [21:56:12] <doonz> YAY
3267 [21:56:16] <doonz> thank you
3268 [21:56:21] <missmbob> np
3269 [21:56:27] <doonz> sorry i was struggling trying to get that error to clear
3270 [21:56:41] * doonz ponders if he broke anything else in the system lol
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3272 [21:58:36] <squigz> how can I switch back to the open-source graphics driver?
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3274 [21:59:09] <missmbob> did you edit your x config to specify fglrx or not? if not just apt-get remove the flgrx-driver
3275 [21:59:27] <missmbob> if you did edit it it you need to undo those changes (i'd just delete the config)
3276 [21:59:28] <squigz> I ran aticonfig --initial which replaces your xorg.conf
3277 [21:59:32] <squigz> Alright
3278 [21:59:37] <missmbob> back it up first
3279 [21:59:39] <missmbob> the config file
3280 [21:59:41] <squigz> yeah
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3282 [22:00:42] <squigz> then just remove the fglrx-driver package then reboot?
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3286 [22:01:19] <squigz> brb
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3293 [22:03:14] <squigz> "ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"
3294 [22:03:18] <squigz> now I'm stuck in a tty lol
3295 [22:03:31] <missmbob> what's your gpu?
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3299 [22:03:59] <squigz> Radeon HD7770
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3301 [22:04:39] <missmbob> and you're on jessie?
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3303 [22:04:43] <squigz> yes
3304 [22:04:58] <missmbob> you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed?
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3307 [22:05:46] <squigz> yeah
3308 [22:05:50] <missmbob> and firmware-linux-nonfree ?
3309 [22:05:58] <squigz> is that a package?
3310 [22:06:01] <missmbob> yes
3311 [22:06:03] <squigz> let me check
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3313 [22:06:23] <squigz> I did not. Just installed it
3314 [22:06:28] <teraflops> squigz: apart from what missmbob said, also check radeon is not blacklisted
3315 [22:06:35] <squigz> teraflops: could you explain?
3316 [22:07:15] <teraflops> squigz: fglrx tends to blacklist radeon
3317 [22:07:37] <squigz> where can I check this?
3318 [22:07:47] <missmbob> check files in /etc/modprobe.d/ if they contain "blacklist radeon"
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3320 [22:08:11] <squigz> heh, it does
3321 [22:08:13] <teraflops> squigz: when you uninstall it it might delete the blacklist but it worth a check
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3323 [22:08:23] <squigz> it didn't remove the blacklist
3324 [22:08:25] <squigz> I'll do that now
3325 [22:08:29] <teraflops> :s
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3327 [22:08:48] <squigz> There were some extra packages to be removed by 'autoremove' that I haven't done yet
3328 [22:08:50] <squigz> could be those?
3329 [22:08:57] <teraflops> idk
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3333 [22:09:23] <squigz> shoot. what's the command I have to run after removing the blacklist file? it was in the file but I forget
3334 [22:09:31] <missmbob> squigz: do you want 3d accel?
3335 [22:09:46] <squigz> maybe? :P
3336 [22:09:58] <missmbob> squigz: you'll need jessie-backports for that. do you have that in your sources.list?
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3338 [22:10:13] <squigz> no
3339 [22:10:20] <missmbob> !jessie-backports
3340 [22:10:20] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb replaced-url
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3342 [22:11:12] <missmbob> after it's in your sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get install linux-amd64-amd64 firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri -t jessie-backports
3343 [22:11:19] <missmbob> then reboot and we'll see what happens
3344 [22:11:28] <squigz> I actually do have backports
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3346 [22:11:40] <squigz> I'll install those now
3347 [22:11:57] <missmbob> even though you already install firmware-linux-nonfree, do it again because this time we're using -t jessie-backports
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3349 [22:13:10] <squigz> linux-amd64-amd64?
3350 [22:13:17] <missmbob> linux-image-amd64 sorry
3351 [22:13:21] <squigz> :)
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3371 [22:19:13] <squigz> rebooting
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3374 [22:19:42] <LaptopBrain> i installed jessie from cd, adding the network source to apt later, and now i cant install java from apt
3375 [22:19:44] <LaptopBrain> i get this:
3376 [22:19:45] <LaptopBrain> tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2016f-0+deb8u1) but 2016i-0+deb8u1 is to be installed
3377 [22:20:08] <LaptopBrain> seems that a couple of system libs are newer than what apt expects, how can i override it, should i?
3378 [22:20:31] <missmbob> you should probably just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
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3383 [22:20:51] <missmbob> that'll update whatever's still old from your cd install
3384 [22:21:09] <LaptopBrain> hmm, dist-upgrade has /always/ broken my machine before
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3386 [22:21:23] <missmbob> you only have jessie in your sources.list, right?
3387 [22:21:26] <LaptopBrain> yes
3388 [22:21:40] <missmbob> then you'll be fine. it's when you mix shit like testing or third party crap that breaks
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3390 [22:22:07] <LaptopBrain> dist-upgrade says : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3391 [22:22:09] <squigz> Well my VGA display is working now, except I get a segfault when trying to startx. replaced-url
3392 [22:22:11] <LaptopBrain> nothing to do :/
3393 [22:22:14] <missmbob> !bat
3394 [22:22:14] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
3395 [22:22:37] <LaptopBrain> hmm, let me run those and take a look at the output myself, too
3396 [22:22:38] <LaptopBrain> thanks
3397 [22:23:05] <LaptopBrain> hmmmm
3398 [22:23:14] <missmbob> squigz: i'm not sure what to do with that.
3399 [22:23:17] <LaptopBrain> is the.earth.li/debian a valid apt source?
3400 [22:23:31] <squigz> missmbob: ?
3401 [22:23:47] <missmbob> squigz: dont know what to do about that segfault. hopefully someone else here does
3402 [22:23:53] <squigz> :(
3403 [22:24:02] <squigz> missmbob: thanks forr the help, anyway
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3417 [22:27:22] <LaptopBrain> hmmm, thats interesting
3418 [22:27:33] <LaptopBrain> in my sources.list security.debian.org updates were commented out
3419 [22:27:47] <LaptopBrain> im going to re-enable that, and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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3442 [22:35:34] <rudi_s> LaptopBrain: And you might want to disable third-party entries (if you have any), like missm<tab> suggested.
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3456 [22:40:28] <LaptopBrain> rudi_s, missmbob... i fixed it
3457 [22:40:39] <LaptopBrain> i did some googling and the error is common since at least debian 6
3458 [22:40:44] <LaptopBrain> this fixed it: apt-get install tzdata=2016f-0+deb8u1
3459 [22:40:48] <LaptopBrain> basically downgrade to the one it expects
3460 [22:41:07] <LaptopBrain> im not sure why timezone data needs regular updates anyway... surely the worlds timezones dont move around every year?
3461 [22:41:41] <missmbob> sure does. every few months there's some change
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3463 [22:42:33] <LaptopBrain> maybe they should localize the package
3464 [22:42:48] <LaptopBrain> i dont think most western countries have changed their timezone info in centuries
3465 [22:42:55] <LaptopBrain> :P
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3467 [22:43:26] <missmbob> if you kept everything up to date instead of fooling around with doing cd only installs and then not having all repos enabled you'd be fine
3468 [22:43:31] <LaptopBrain> hmm, although i suppose debian still needs to know the timezone offset for uzbekistan... even if you live in the uk
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3470 [22:43:41] <LaptopBrain> missmbob: i didnt have internet at install time
3471 [22:43:41] <jelly> LaptopBrain: no, they more much more often than that
3472 [22:43:49] <jelly> they move*
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3475 [22:44:32] <missmbob> LaptopBrain: you should pastebin your sources.list
3476 [22:44:39] <LaptopBrain> i usually prefer netinst, its minimal and friendly
3477 [22:45:38] <LaptopBrain> sure can
3478 [22:45:40] <LaptopBrain> netselect-apt made it
3479 [22:45:44] <LaptopBrain> one sec...
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3481 [22:46:52] <LaptopBrain> replaced-url
3482 [22:47:32] <missmbob> LaptopBrain: ah that's your problem. you dont have updates like you should
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3484 [22:47:42] <LaptopBrain> when i say netselect-apt made it, it made it with line 8 commented out, and i added line 10 to install the raid userland stuff
3485 [22:47:56] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
3486 [22:47:56] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
3487 [22:48:12] <missmbob> you need the third jessie-updates line
3488 [22:48:49] <LaptopBrain> should that also have "contrib non-free" on the end of it?
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3490 [22:49:05] <missmbob> sure. then apt-get update and upgrade again
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3492 [22:49:58] <missmbob> this would've been sorted quickly and easily if you had posted the stuff bat asked for like we wanted :P
3493 [22:50:09] <LaptopBrain> thanks, that's let me go back to tzdata 2016i
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3495 [22:50:34] <LaptopBrain> big question then, why did netselect-apt generate such a crappy sources.list?
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3497 [22:50:46] <missmbob> i dont know. never used it
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3501 [22:51:46] <LaptopBrain> its used to find the fastest mirror for apt
3502 [22:51:52] <LaptopBrain> seems it has issues
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3515 [22:55:29] <war9407> box*CLI> \U+AF73\U+AF69\U+AF70\U+AF20 < anyone see this when typing things into the asterisk CLI 13.8.2~dfsg-1 ?
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3590 [23:18:30] <beatrice> ciao
3591 [23:18:39] <beatrice> \list
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3594 [23:19:39] <beatrice> !list
3595 [23:19:39] <dpkg> beatrice: vedi replaced-url
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3622 [23:26:09] <rklopfer_> copy / paste in urxvt are not working for me. ctrl-shift-c / ctrl-shift-v seem like they should work according to the documentation i've read
3623 [23:26:27] <rklopfer_> anyone have any idea why these might not be working for me?
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3626 [23:27:01] <vegenaise> hi irc. does anyone have a minute to walk me through installing/compiling soulseek through the terminal?
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3630 [23:27:47] <pfred1> I've had no luck getting things to compile lately
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3632 [23:28:44] <vegenaise> i mean, i don't even know if that's the right terminology (linux noob). i've grabbed the .tgz archive and dunno how to proceed
3633 [23:28:59] <pfred1> unpack it and see what you have
3634 [23:29:09] <pfred1> I usually make a directory for that
3635 [23:29:24] <pfred1> some stuff spews out all over the places
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3637 [23:29:49] <pfred1> got a link to where you got the tarball?
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3642 [23:30:36] <vegenaise> oh. it's just a single executable. must be that qt runs natively and i don't need to install/compile anything to get it up and going?
3643 [23:30:40] <pfred1> tell me where to get it and I'll give it a look here
3644 [23:30:53] <vegenaise> here pfred1: replaced-url
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3648 [23:32:26] <vegenaise> yup. it just runs after extracting. thanks anyway pfred1 :)
3649 [23:32:29] <pfred1> vegenaise yup this is just an exeutable
3650 [23:32:39] <pfred1> pfred1@buck:~/Build/SoulSearch$ file SoulseekQt-2016-1-17-32bit
3651 [23:32:39] <pfred1> SoulseekQt-2016-1-17-32bit: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x4243503246fbcb5f4b2624b4f67164eadc729010, not stripped
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3655 [23:33:40] <pfred1> bah I'm missing some libs for it to run here
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3689 [23:52:16] <betaubuntu> anyone knows how to protect pages with sessions? : )( php
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3700 [23:56:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> I'd ask ##php
3701 [23:57:37] <betaubuntu> they are not rly helpfull
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3705 [23:59:11] <bibble> betaubuntu: the php site would have something
3706 [23:59:33] <bibble> replaced-url
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