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32 [00:16:21] <markvandenborre> hi!
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36 [00:16:51] <markvandenborre> I'm thinking of a way to log in to a machine with ssh
37 [00:17:08] <markvandenborre> and starting a links browser there on the framebuffer
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39 [00:17:50] <markvandenborre> but of course that won't work as the system doesn't know to which virtual terminal to send things
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43 [00:18:19] <markvandenborre> with programs like the framebuffer image viewer fbi
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45 [00:18:38] <markvandenborre> I can specify that I want terminal 1 on the command line
46 [00:18:43] <markvandenborre> and I am fine
47 [00:19:07] <markvandenborre> at first sight, that is not so with w3m, netsurf or links2
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50 [00:19:35] <markvandenborre> is it possible to generally pass this kind of info as an environment variable for example?
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52 [00:20:20] <petemc> its sent to the vt its launched from
53 [00:20:37] <petemc> fb is not x
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57 [00:22:47] <markvandenborre> petemc: in one way or another, I can specify this to fbi (the framebuffer image viewer)
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59 [00:22:51] <markvandenborre> with -T 1
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62 [00:24:47] <markvandenborre> petemc: I do appreciate your feedback though
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83 [00:34:32] <Ctrl> list
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102 [00:49:09] <Mazhive> some expert people using roundcube
103 [00:49:13] <Mazhive> ?
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105 [00:49:40] <dvs> !ask
106 [00:49:40] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
107 [00:50:13] <Mazhive> because i have a real problem to install it on wheezy
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110 [00:50:46] <Mazhive> cant get it to work before i used to install it like in minutes now i worked on it for 4 hours now
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112 [00:51:43] <Mazhive> server php5 is working but when trying to run roundcube i get text instead of php
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120 [00:56:17] <dioz> hi
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137 [01:03:41] <OldMerovingian> I am new to Debian and I am having issues getting a package for some reason. I can see it online but apt won't complains that it isn't found
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140 [01:04:10] <OldMerovingian> Can anyone verify that libxcb-xrm-dev is in the repos?
141 [01:04:29] <missmbob> ,v libxcb-xrm-dev
142 [01:04:37] <judd> Package: libxcb-xrm-dev on amd64 -- stretch: 1.0-1; sid: 1.0-1
143 [01:04:38] <missmbob> OldMerovingian: it's not in jessie.
144 [01:04:41] <OldMerovingian> Maybe it is only in testing?
145 [01:04:44] <OldMerovingian> Ah ok
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147 [01:05:09] <missmbob> ,checkbackport libxcb-xrm-dev
148 [01:05:10] <judd> Backporting package libxcb-xrm-dev in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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150 [01:05:38] <missmbob> !tell OldMerovingian about ssb
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152 [01:06:37] <martman> im trying to install redmine. i created a /etc/apache2/sites-available/redmine.conf file, but im not sure what else needs to be done to get apache happy
153 [01:06:43] <martman> guides online seem to gloss over this
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155 [01:07:43] <abrotman> martman: a2ensite might help
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157 [01:07:46] <OldMerovingian> missmbob: thank you!
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161 [01:09:40] <martman> <OldMerovingian> yep ran that too
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166 [01:11:24] <martman> any other ideas
167 [01:11:25] <martman> ?
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171 [01:13:21] <abrotman> martman: a2ensite, then restart apache ..
172 [01:14:21] <martman> abrotman yep, i did that too
173 [01:14:38] <martman> not really sure how to troubleshoot something like this, not sure if all the right plumbing is in place
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176 [01:14:54] <abrotman> martman: then you look at your logs when you try to access the site
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180 [01:16:36] <martman> stuff in in /var/log/apache isnt lookin too helpful
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189 [01:21:43] <martman> when i browse to the ip i just get a generic apache page
190 [01:21:48] <martman> how can i make redmine the default?
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279 [02:30:46] <fguide> Hello, could anybody help me with Xorg conf? I have two monitors, each on a different adapter (nvidia and ati) but for some reason I cannot have them both working after X is loaded. dmesg shows both drivers loaded but still I just have the screen on nvidia working. I have the xorg.conf pasted here: replaced-url
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381 [03:41:59] <Screamslash> how can i convert a file to an iso in debian?
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407 [03:55:24] <ryouma> Screamslash: genisoimage -J -r -o "${f:?}" "$@"
408 [03:55:28] <ryouma> at least, that's what i use
409 [03:55:54] <Screamslash> what looks like a foreign language to me
410 [03:56:02] <Screamslash> where does the output go and wheres the input path
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413 [03:56:14] <ryouma> but if you have long filenames, you must do genisoimage -joliet-long -J -r -o "${f:?}" "$@"
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416 [03:56:37] <ryouma> that is a fragment from a shell function. just replace the variables with filename and the files you want to make into an iso
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418 [03:56:44] <ryouma> variables start with $
419 [03:57:13] <ryouma> Screamslash: genisoimage -J -r -o "a.iso" "a.jpg"
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454 [04:23:41] <awal1> How to send x window from monitor a to b b to a using keyboard?
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458 [04:26:08] <awal1> or "something" that will let me emulate mouse drag action?
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460 [04:27:11] * reggin backwards
461 [04:27:27] <galex-713> Hey, does anyone know if there's a way to browse the web freely and not with the slowness typical of firefox?
462 [04:27:36] <galex-713> (freely i.e. with free software only)
463 [04:27:38] <SirLagz> galex-713: use links?
464 [04:27:50] <reggin> galex-713: firefox is not slow
465 [04:27:55] <reggin> maybe your connection is slow?
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467 [04:27:59] <galex-713> *browse the web freely and graphically
468 [04:28:01] <galex-713> reggin: fiber
469 [04:28:06] <SirLagz> galex-713: Chromium?
470 [04:28:09] <galex-713> reggin: around 20 MB/s
471 [04:28:19] <reggin> reggin: what?
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473 [04:28:25] <SirLagz> galex-713: or just stop visiting slow websites
474 [04:28:39] <reggin> i mean galex-713
475 [04:28:40] <galex-713> Chromium is way quicker than firefox but has all the google’s problem around privacy, proprietary css properties, unconfigurability etc.
476 [04:28:49] <reggin> i think u were pinging the wrong person
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478 [04:29:17] <reggin> anyway, dont ping me unnecessarily by accident. or I will ddos you off the face of the interwebz
479 [04:29:20] <galex-713> SirLagz: well most of useful websites are slow…
480 [04:29:36] <SirLagz> galex-713: well then I guess you'll need to put up with slow browsing then :P
481 [04:29:36] <reggin> im a leet haxer
482 [04:29:44] <awal1> galex-713: luakit is fine
483 [04:29:52] <SirLagz> reggin: you spelt it wrong. It's 1337 h4x0r :P
484 [04:29:53] <reggin> and try reading my nick backwards
485 [04:30:05] <reggin> SirLagz: lol
486 [04:30:10] <galex-713> awal1: luakit?
487 [04:30:17] <awal1> yeah
488 [04:30:41] <reggin> galex-713: uhm...... what websites are you having speed issues with?
489 [04:31:07] <reggin> the porn server might be overloaded too, not just your PC
490 [04:31:36] <galex-713> Search engines, most wordpress blogs, youtube, wikipedia, github…
491 [04:31:41] <galex-713> that kind of stuff
492 [04:32:43] <galex-713> and generally everything is faster when using either chromium, either a non-web (ie non xml/sgml/css) interface, like youtube-dl, weboob, plowdown, etc.
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495 [04:33:14] <reggin> chromium is free
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497 [04:33:34] <reggin> chrome is free too, but not open source. Chromium is open source too.
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499 [04:34:30] <galex-713> chromium, as I already said, has privacy issues, as well as other political problems because of Google’s decisions, like proprietary css properties, etc.
500 [04:34:51] <reggin> chromium, not chrome. Not Google.
501 [04:35:04] <reggin> also, i was not here "earlier"
502 [04:35:13] <galex-713> chromium *is* made by google
503 [04:35:16] <galex-713> mostly google devs
504 [04:35:21] <galex-713> using google translate too
505 [04:35:24] <galex-713> and google servers
506 [04:35:27] <galex-713> and google caches
507 [04:35:31] <galex-713> and google dns servers
508 [04:35:34] <galex-713> and google search
509 [04:35:40] <galex-713> using webkit
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511 [04:35:47] <galex-713> or blink, forgot which one
512 [04:36:00] <galex-713> more precisely the css properties google has decided to support
513 [04:36:05] <galex-713> but the one google has decided to kill
514 [04:36:21] <galex-713> and with optimizations for google websites
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516 [04:38:00] <galex-713> chrome is just chromium but fully proprietary, with DRM support
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519 [04:38:28] <rue_shop3> anyone alive?
520 [04:38:30] <bibble> mobile browsers
521 [04:38:35] <rue_shop3> anyone used usb over ethernet?
522 [04:38:39] <rue_shop3> pointers?
523 [04:39:00] <galex-713> bibble?
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526 [04:39:46] <AlexLikeRock> no way !, always bether GNU thant Linux
527 [04:39:51] <AlexLikeRock> no way !, always better GNU thant Linux
528 [04:39:51] <bibble> galex-713: other than firefox, chromium only option ? ..but seem to be many mobile web browsers on android etc
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530 [04:40:07] <AlexLikeRock> mozilla RULEZ !
531 [04:40:18] <galex-713> :/
532 [04:40:33] <galex-713> my computer is i486, not arm
533 [04:40:38] <galex-713> so can’t benefit of fdroid
534 [04:40:50] <galex-713> and java’s slow here anyway
535 [04:41:01] <bibble> dillo
536 [04:41:37] <bibble> but no javascript
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538 [04:41:43] <galex-713> dillo?
539 [04:41:46] <missmbob> ,i epiphany-browser
540 [04:41:47] <judd> Package epiphany-browser (gnome, optional) in jessie/amd64: Intuitive GNOME web browser. Version: 3.14.1-1; Size: 1716.7k; Installed: 2696k; Homepage: replaced-url
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542 [04:41:55] <missmbob> ,i midori
543 [04:41:56] <awal1> galex-713: free solid browsers you have 2 choices: firefox & chromium. otherwise, you have webkit based, but not really recommended for a very personal use where security is a concern (luakit, sombreo...(. also you have links and similars, but with limited features
544 [04:41:57] <judd> No package named 'midori' was found in jessie/amd64.
545 [04:42:05] <bibble> it's a browser galex-713
546 [04:42:14] <awal1> sombreo ^
547 [04:42:14] <galex-713> epiphany is worse than firefox, tend to freeze
548 [04:42:31] <missmbob> ,v midori
549 [04:42:33] <judd> Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.5.11-ds1-4; sid: 0.5.11-ds1-4; experimental: 0.5.12~wk2-exp1
550 [04:43:10] <galex-713> why webkit would have security concerns?
551 [04:43:32] <bibble> ah, midori yeah. and possibly sombreo then ? ..though haven't heard of it
552 [04:43:37] <awal1> galex-173: if you dont like webkit based or firefox&chromium, your alternative is: don't browse the web at all :P
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555 [04:44:06] <galex-713> awal1: I’ve been practicizing this so much people think I’m leaving in an underground cavern :P
556 [04:44:25] <galex-713> webkit seems nice, still can’t understand why epiphany freeze this way
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558 [04:44:40] <awal1> galex-173: no much more to say. you have two choices: firefox or chromium
559 [04:44:54] <missmbob> vivaldi. opera.
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561 [04:45:32] <awal1> opera is based in chromium, if i'm not wrong
562 [04:45:51] <missmbob> it is. but it doesnt send crap back to google like he's worried about
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564 [04:46:32] <awal1> and it's more configurable then chromium/chrome
565 [04:46:42] <galex-713> opera is proprietary afaik
566 [04:46:49] <missmbob> my daily driver is vivaldi. love it
567 [04:47:02] <awal1> never heard about vivaldi
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569 [04:47:07] <awal1> ,v vivaldi
570 [04:47:08] <judd> No package named 'vivaldi' was found in amd64.
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572 [04:47:25] <awal1> missmbob: webkit based?
573 [04:47:36] <missmbob> replaced-url
574 [04:47:41] <missmbob> chromium based
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578 [04:49:54] <awal1> galex-173: sombrero is created by some openbsd devs
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581 [04:50:43] <missmbob> xombrero*
582 [04:50:55] <awal1> oh yeah, xombrero, sorry :P
583 [04:51:26] <P0RN> how do i make naked vagina pictures not seen on computer? like be hidden from my mom?
584 [04:51:40] <awal1> i tried them all. firefox is the nº 1
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591 [04:54:40] <awal1> Not by chance almost all gnu / linux distributions choose firefox as the default web browser
592 [04:55:15] <jeep> opera browser predates chrome by a decade probably
593 [04:55:45] <missmbob> jeep: not after version 12. they dumped everything and started over with chromium
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595 [04:56:30] <awal1> now Avast have it's own web browser, based on chrome too :D
596 [04:56:48] <awal1> for window platform ^
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599 [05:00:26] <bibble> missmbob: vivaldi seems interesting, thanks
600 [05:00:37] <missmbob> bibble: you're welcome
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612 [05:11:48] <rue_shop3> hey, wait, I have some programs I want to make into official debian packages, is anyone here somone who is signed and all that junk to help me?
613 [05:12:19] <missmbob> !tell rue_shop3 about mentors
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615 [05:12:50] <rue_shop3> so, nobody here is?
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618 [05:13:46] <rue_shop3> I looked into it, I dont ahve a year of my life to dedicate to getting certified and learning the system to do it
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623 [05:15:26] <rue_shop3> reading about it did make me understand why debian is shy of software packages and some people just start their own package servers for their software
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626 [05:16:42] <rue_shop3> I'm not gonna read for 3 hours again, no was an acceptable answer
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630 [05:17:27] <jeep> quality > quantity
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718 [06:31:51] <Screamslash> im running a windows xp guest in virtualbox is there anyway i can just like open the virtual machine hdd and just grab a folder out bc none of the sharing options are working
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724 [06:37:21] <Texou> Screamslash: maybe with host-only feature
725 [06:37:38] <Texou> you could mount a samba share folder
726 [06:37:41] <awal1> Screamslash: you need virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
727 [06:37:51] <Screamslash> yeah i did that
728 [06:38:25] <Texou> samba or virtualbox-guest-additions-iso?
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732 [06:38:54] <awal1> replaced-url
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735 [06:39:47] <Screamslash> also does anyone know how i can make a floppy image file in linux?
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737 [06:40:10] <Texou> Screamslash: with dd?
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739 [06:40:29] <Screamslash> i need it to be like a big blank writable floppy image
740 [06:40:38] <Texou> oh
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742 [06:40:48] <Texou> don't think Vbox supports this
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747 [06:41:06] <Texou> see VBoxManage|grep floppy
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750 [06:41:17] <Screamslash> it does
751 [06:41:22] <Screamslash> it supports floppy images
752 [06:41:27] <Screamslash> i just need something else to make it
753 [06:41:43] <Texou> ok
754 [06:41:45] <Texou> dunno
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767 [06:54:19] <n4dir> i am looking for a command line solution to "grep for a pattern" on a website with a few subsites, all contain (short) lists of words.
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770 [06:55:40] <han-solo> grep 'pattern' file
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772 [06:56:04] <n4dir> han-solo: well, that works if i got a file.
773 [06:56:26] <han-solo> why don't you get the source?
774 [06:56:44] <n4dir> you mean why i don't wget the website?
775 [06:56:45] <hiya> anyone using jabber.ccc.de? is it down?
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777 [06:57:12] <han-solo> i don't know if you can use grep to scrap data from a website on the fly
778 [06:57:22] <han-solo> try python
779 [06:57:42] <n4dir> i don't want to use grep, i am asking if there is a similar solution for searching for a pattern on a website
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802 [07:13:14] <RoyK> n4dir: perl and python and php and whatnot supports 'perl regular expressions', which are very good. grep etc also supports regex, but the old and fairly simple sort
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806 [07:14:37] <n4dir> Royk Not sure if i haven't been clear. My problem is how to search a website for a certain word from the commandline
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811 [07:21:35] <RoyK> n4dir: explain, please - I don't quite understand
812 [07:22:05] <n4dir> which part of that don't you understandt:
813 [07:22:10] <n4dir> i am looking for a command line solution to "grep for a pattern" on a website with a few subsites, all contain (short) lists of words. ?
814 [07:23:08] <RoyK> well, use some way of downloading the webpage, there are libs for all modern languages, and run a regex search through the text
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817 [07:24:17] <n4dir> of course. That would be an option. Would be weird if there was no better one
818 [07:25:11] <n4dir> similar to surfraw, but without a searchengine, only searching a certain URL
819 [07:25:47] <n4dir> I am not speaking bout writing such software, but if such software already exists, btw
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821 [07:28:30] <RoyK> n4dir: you could use a crawler like nutch with solr and then let that do the searching
822 [07:28:33] <RoyK> replaced-url
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824 [07:30:40] <n4dir> ok, that. thanks
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832 [07:36:35] <n4dir> in the meantime i found this: replaced-url
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844 [07:55:42] <n4dir> and here is what i was looking for:
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846 [07:55:55] <n4dir> lynx -dump -nolist replaced-url
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941 [09:09:42] <azonenberg> Hi guys
942 [09:09:46] <azonenberg> Having some issues with multiarch
943 [09:10:03] <azonenberg> in particular, trying to get libcrypto++-dev installed as both i386 and amd64 on an amd64 system
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945 [09:10:32] <azonenberg> it appears that installing it as 32-bit removes the 64-bit package and vice versa
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947 [09:10:39] <azonenberg> so how do i get both 32 and 64 bit binaries?
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949 [09:11:03] <azonenberg> I'm trying to build an app for multiple architectures at once on the same host (eventually ARM and some others as well)
950 [09:11:15] <azonenberg> So i'll be cross-compiling for them all from an amd64 host
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952 [09:11:47] <IamX> Hi
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964 [09:23:43] <azonenberg> (this is on jessie btw)
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966 [09:26:42] <IamX> Hello
967 [09:26:55] <IamX> I have a question
968 [09:27:10] <IamX> Can you help me ?
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976 [09:30:13] <SirLagz> IamX: not without knowing what you need help with
977 [09:30:25] <jticket> IamX What is your question.
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983 [09:35:33] <brimonk> Does anyone know of premade .deb packages for obs-studio? I've been trying to compile it myself, but I keep getting segfaults whenever I attempt to record to the disk instead of stream.
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996 [09:41:26] <n4dir1> brimonk: look here, but all i can say that i found it replaced-url
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1001 [09:46:02] <brimonk> I don't suppose there would be any half decent way of simply using the ubuntu package.
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1003 [09:48:30] <gebruiker> brimonk: what package? I might be able to backport it
1004 [09:48:59] <n4dir1> brimonk: any reason you don't want to use the MX package?
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1006 [09:50:26] <brimonk> n4dir1: (I couldn't find a download link or anything of that nature, don't hate me)
1007 [09:50:40] <brimonk> and obs-studio.
1008 [09:52:02] <brimonk> gebruiker: It works fine for streaming, but it segfaults every time I try to record to disk.
1009 [09:52:49] <brimonk> I just know that my ubuntu only friends simply add the ppa, and it just works. I would really like it to 'just work'.
1010 [09:53:00] <n4dir1> brimonk: replaced-url
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1012 [09:55:44] <brimonk> replaced-url
1013 [09:55:48] <gebruiker> brimonk: well,.. I am willing to try to backport it. I can find the ppa and build it on the debian jessie dependencies in a chroot. You will have to test it out for me if I sucseed
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1016 [09:56:21] <brimonk> gebruiker: I would love to try it!
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1161 [11:40:08] <ShapeShifter499> hi
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1166 [11:40:19] <mahesh> hey i wanted to build packaged of armhf.deb in multiarch system ..any documents or link please
1167 [11:40:32] <ShapeShifter499> is there a reason why /var/log/auth.log is not on my system?
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1169 [11:41:04] <ShapeShifter499> I just did a fresh install of debian ( think it was proper) and I don't seem to have any auth logs from ssh
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1172 [11:41:56] <ShapeShifter499> LogLevel VERBOSE < is in my sshd_config
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1189 [11:51:03] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, what does `last -n 25` tells you?
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1192 [11:52:01] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: seems to show my reboots and boots
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1194 [11:52:22] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, nog local and remote logons?
1195 [11:52:34] <dutchfish> s/nog/no
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1197 [11:52:46] <ShapeShifter499> no sorry I read that wrong, yea shows my logons
1198 [11:52:56] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: I was trying to setup fail2ban
1199 [11:53:14] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, ah ok
1200 [11:53:27] <ShapeShifter499> fail2ban gave me the error "ERROR No file(s) found for glob /var/log/auth.log"
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1202 [11:54:13] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, at the top of my hat, fail2ban has its own way of logging, have you rsyslog properly working?
1203 [11:55:30] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, or fail2ban is not running as an authoritive user to use th elog system, just a hunch
1204 [11:56:28] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: I was just reading into rsyslog vs syslog
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1207 [11:56:39] <ShapeShifter499> I did not set up either
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1210 [11:56:55] <wallbroken2> hi
1211 [11:56:57] <wallbroken2> >
1212 [11:56:57] <wallbroken2> >
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1214 [11:57:02] <wallbroken2> i get this on the shell
1215 [11:57:06] <wallbroken2> how to quit?
1216 [11:57:13] <wallbroken2> ctrl+c does not work
1217 [11:57:13] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, if you have no auth.log at all, because fail2ban have been setup before any logon was established, just do a `touch /var/log/auth.log` and try again. syslog is the default i believe on a clean install.
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1221 [11:59:15] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, however i prefer rsyslog on such systems
1222 [11:59:59] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: what's the package name for syslog? I don't seem to have it and 'apt-get install syslog' doesn't work
1223 [12:00:09] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, also delve into centralizing your logging
1224 [12:00:46] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, its either syslog-ng or rsyslog
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1227 [12:01:13] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, read the wiki
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1237 [12:03:27] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, on stretch it is rsyslog as default, i am not on a stable system currently, so unable to check it out for you
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1239 [12:04:09] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, you should prefer rsyslog anyway
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1248 [12:08:17] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: just came across this replaced-url
1249 [12:08:33] <ShapeShifter499> I'll install rsyslog, seems to be preferred standard
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1251 [12:09:27] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, right
1252 [12:09:36] <ShapeShifter499> thanks for the help dutchfish
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1254 [12:09:57] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, furthermore, fail2ban has some quircks see the bug list, which you might run into replaced-url
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1256 [12:10:03] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, yw
1257 [12:10:06] <ShapeShifter499> I was trying to get the minimal packages and I missed the syslogger
1258 [12:10:17] <dutchfish> ah ok, good find
1259 [12:10:44] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, i assume you have the base system installed?
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1261 [12:11:03] <ShapeShifter499> yes
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1264 [12:11:26] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, ok, happens to me all the time, when debootstrapping a Debian ;)
1265 [12:12:02] <ShapeShifter499> dutchfish: what I just found out, I had busybox-syslog installed as this was a stock image for a arm board I got
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1267 [12:12:15] <ShapeShifter499> I just removed it for rsyslog
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1269 [12:12:40] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, that should fix it, rince and repeat
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1272 [12:13:41] <dutchfish> ShapeShifter499, `netstat -nla` and `ps auxww` are you friends
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1325 [12:37:26] <jim> I'll ask on -mentors (failure to get a response)
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1385 [13:10:45] <questionaire> i have placed fonts.conf in .config/fontsconfig/ ( $HOME ) ofcrouse
1386 [13:10:51] <questionaire> but it does not seem to take effect
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1393 [13:15:00] <lubsg> is there any decent desktop environment agnostic graphical file manager?
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1395 [13:16:49] <gry> mc
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1400 [13:18:30] <lubsg> gry: it's ncurses, with graphical I mean X
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1405 [13:19:17] <Ke> lubsg: most of the file manager still work outside of the DE
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1408 [13:19:46] <Ke> lubsg: pcmanfm should at least work with marginal intrusiveness
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1410 [13:19:52] <lubsg> Ke: but most don't make sense if you don't use the corresponding DE
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1412 [13:20:34] <Ke> you mean, because they start too many dependency services?
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1417 [13:22:03] <lubsg> Ke: yes
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1420 [13:23:14] <lubsg> Ke: pcmanfm works nice, thanks
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1469 [13:53:32] <dumbl3d0re> I'll install Debian as my main OS, but I'm not sure to choice between Jessie or Stretch. I would probably prefer Jessie, but where is a critical package that today is only available in Stretch's repositories. What do you recommend me to choice?
1470 [13:53:51] <dumbl3d0re> 1. Jessie and install the package that's compiled for Stretch.
1471 [13:54:02] <dumbl3d0re> 2. Go with Stretch directly.
1472 [13:54:17] <babilen> Which package?
1473 [13:54:20] <dumbl3d0re> Neovim
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1477 [13:55:18] <dumbl3d0re> I assume that it isn't possible to introduce a new package via backports?
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1480 [13:55:46] <babilen> Looks as if it would require backporting of other packages also, otherwise I would have suggested creating a backport yourself. You can still do that, but it might be a bit of work.
1481 [13:55:51] <babilen> dpkg: ssb
1482 [13:55:51] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
1483 [13:55:56] <babilen> judd: checkbackport neovim
1484 [13:56:00] <judd> Backporting package neovim in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmsgpack-dev (>= 1.0.0), libnss-wrapper <!nocheck>, libtermkey-dev, libunibilium-dev, libvterm-dev, lua-busted <!nocheck>, lua-mpack, lua-nvim [alpha amd64 armel armhf hppa i386 mips mips64el mipsel powerpc ppc64el sparc64 x32] <!nocheck>.
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1486 [13:56:56] <babilen> So you options are either backporting all of those ^^ (and their dependencies), tracking a stretch/sid mix (see <ssm> -- /msg dpkg ssm) or using different software or a different distribution
1487 [13:57:20] <dumbl3d0re> Yeah, guessed that.
1488 [13:57:36] <babilen> I'd personally just track stretch/sid, but that might not be the right thing for you. If you consider that I'd recommend to read replaced-url
1489 [13:57:38] <dumbl3d0re> It seems that Stretch is my only (Debian) option.
1490 [13:58:00] <babilen> Having said all of that: Just use emacs with evil if you want a great vim implementation
1491 [13:58:29] <babilen> Spacemacs has a good starter configuration
1492 [13:58:33] <dumbl3d0re> I know both Emacs and (Neo)vim, but I prefer the later.
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1494 [13:59:04] <babilen> Fair enough, it was a serious recommendation though, but it is naturally up to you
1495 [13:59:09] <babilen> dpkg: ssm
1496 [13:59:10] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release "stretch";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security stretch lines and change one set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to install foo from sid rather than stretch as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this setup to track <stretch> after its release.
1497 [13:59:24] <dumbl3d0re> I have used Spacemacs and got some commits accepted, but I think it's to heavy and I like the Neovim community. :)
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1499 [13:59:55] <babilen> Sure, I have absolutely no problem with that and think that neovim is a fantastic development
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1501 [14:00:00] <dumbl3d0re> And the Neovim's "philosophy".
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1503 [14:00:13] <TomTomTosch> i'd probably build from upstream source if i wanted to run that on jessie. checkinstall exists as a replacement for make install. it keeps track of all files and creates a package for you.
1504 [14:00:29] <babilen> TomTomTosch: You still need those build dependencies
1505 [14:01:03] <dumbl3d0re> Aware of checkinstall, but when I've used earlier I didn't find any good documentation and tutorials.
1506 [14:01:28] <babilen> But yeah, if it is easy to compile it on jessie then .. sure .. checkinstall or <stow> make it easy to keep track of that installation.
1507 [14:01:34] <Guest58624> i am trying to install Virtualbox on debian stretch. Ultimately getting stuck with vboxdrv. dkms seems to be building for 3.16.0-4-amd64 but i have linux headers 4.7.0-1-amd64
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1509 [14:01:51] <babilen> Guest58624: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for stretch/sid
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1513 [14:02:22] <dumbl3d0re> Stretch will freeze in some months, so hopefully it will not be to unstable.
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1516 [14:02:36] <babilen> Guest58624: Also paste complete output and an overview of installed kernel/header packages (e.g. filtered dpkg -l output)
1517 [14:03:03] <babilen> dumbl3d0re: unstable in the context of Debian only refers to "not changing" and has little to do with "working" btw
1518 [14:03:21] <babilen> Well, "changing" actually
1519 [14:04:34] <Guest58624> babilen: replaced-url
1520 [14:05:02] <dumbl3d0re> babilen: Aware of the definition of "stable" in the context, but often where is some bugs with new packages what have yet to be battle tested.
1521 [14:05:28] <babilen> dumbl3d0re: Absolutely
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1523 [14:05:42] <babilen> Just thought I'd clarify that common misconception
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1525 [14:06:36] <TomTomTosch> babilen: from what i understand, their make file pulls dependencies and builds them automagically. i guess that has been removed by the debian maintainers for obvious reasons ^^
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1527 [14:07:02] <dumbl3d0re> Yeah, and I understand why you say it. Hard to how knowledgeable other people are when you don't know them. I appreciate it that you try to help me!
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1529 [14:07:30] <CtrlC> Why can't jessie locate squid?
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1531 [14:08:25] <CtrlC> It's squid3!
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1533 [14:09:13] <help-needed-asap> fontconfig question. I have placed fonts.conf in .config/fontsconfig/ but the settings are not hounored
1534 [14:09:35] <help-needed-asap> what can I do to make sure the fontconfig is listened and adhered to?
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1538 [14:10:17] <help-needed-asap> correction it is $HOME/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
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1542 [14:12:10] <dumbl3d0re> Now to the preferable way to install Stretch! Install minimal Jessie and when upgrade after v.s. go directly to Stretch with the Debian Installer for Stretch? Aware of the official way is to install Jessie, but I don't want to have some old stuff from Jessie and bugs related to the upgrade when I'm running Stretch.
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1546 [14:13:03] <dumbl3d0re> Do any of you know how stable the new Debian Installer release is? They released alpha 8 yesterday.
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1549 [14:15:52] <dumbl3d0re> babilen: What's your recommendation?
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1552 [14:16:36] <help-needed-asap> it is the latest stable and afaik there are no bugs reported yet
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1555 [14:18:21] <babilen> dumbl3d0re: Personally I'd give the newest debian installer a spin -- replaced-url
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1557 [14:18:39] <babilen> replaced-url
1558 [14:19:09] <help-needed-asap> would apprecaite some help on the fontconfig issue I am having
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1560 [14:19:52] <babilen> help-needed-asap: Hard to help if we don't even know what you placed in there and what you were trying to achieve. Also some information as to why you think placing that file there would have had an effect and how you check if it did.
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1562 [14:20:32] <babilen> I typically just run "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and am content
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1568 [14:22:26] <dumbl3d0re> babilen: Going with that when. See you on the other side! Thanks for the help! :)
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1570 [14:23:19] <babilen> dumbl3d0re: Make sure to read the wiki article. Many points in there apply to running a stretch/sid mix also
1571 [14:23:44] <help-needed-asap> babilen: I am trying to use terminus font in chrome, from replaced-url
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1577 [14:25:23] <babilen> help-needed-asap: And how did you install terminus?
1578 [14:25:32] <help-needed-asap> with apt-get install
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1580 [14:26:14] <help-needed-asap> I installed xfonts-terminus xfonts-terminus-dos and xfonts-terminus-oblique
1581 [14:26:30] <help-needed-asap> @ babilen
1582 [14:26:41] <babilen> Okay, that sounds sensible. And then?
1583 [14:27:14] <help-needed-asap> then I ran fc-cache -fv ( I placed the config file already in $HOME/.config/fontconfig/ )
1584 [14:27:25] <help-needed-asap> restarted the browser and eventually rebooted. but no avail
1585 [14:27:27] <babilen> Why do you think that you need a config file at all?
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1587 [14:28:13] <help-needed-asap> babilen: because that is what I read on the forums.debian and people say that it works
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1592 [14:29:31] <babilen> help-needed-asap: So you cannot select that font in chrome ?
1593 [14:29:50] <help-needed-asap> babilen: no i can not
1594 [14:29:54] <babilen> I mean, there must be a reason why you started fiddling/researching configuration for terminus to begin with
1595 [14:30:14] <babilen> I wouldn't normally install a font package and create random configs before even trying the font
1596 [14:30:18] <help-needed-asap> it is a pleasant font and i wondered if I could use it while browsing too
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1598 [14:30:34] <help-needed-asap> I use terminus in my terminal too
1599 [14:30:58] <babilen> So you can use it in your terminal, but not in chrome?
1600 [14:31:01] <help-needed-asap> I have not created the config I grabbed it from forums.debian where people are using it sucessfully appearently
1601 [14:31:31] <babilen> Well, but *something* must have caused you to look into forums posts to begin with
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1604 [14:32:04] <help-needed-asap> why is that important?
1605 [14:32:21] <help-needed-asap> why is not just getting it to work sufficient?
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1608 [14:33:09] <babilen> No, that is sufficient
1609 [14:34:05] <babilen> I just want to understand the problem and by your account you created configs and rebooted before even trying anything. I, rightfully I guess, assumed that you tried some things in the interim that you didn't mention
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1613 [14:35:34] <babilen> Is the font shown in Chromium?
1614 [14:36:02] <help-needed-asap> No I placed a config I grabbed from github ( which I found through forums.debian ), after that I installed terminus font with apt-get and placed the config from github in $HOME/.config/fontconfig/ and ran fc-cache -fv and restarted the chrome browser
1615 [14:36:24] <help-needed-asap> then as I saw that it didn't change I rebooted ...
1616 [14:36:35] <Emil> Hey
1617 [14:36:39] <babilen> Yeah, so the reason why you started looking into it was because the font wasn't listed in chrome
1618 [14:37:11] <Emil> I have the acer aspire one zg5. Should I use 585 or 686-PAE on install?
1619 [14:37:12] <help-needed-asap> the reason why i started looking because it seemed that the changes did not come through
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1621 [14:37:19] <password2> yo
1622 [14:37:22] <Emil> I only have 1 or 2 gigs of memory
1623 [14:37:54] <babilen> Emil: You can use i386 or amd64 on that box.
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1626 [14:38:03] <Emil> babilen: no such selection
1627 [14:38:10] <babilen> Selection where?
1628 [14:38:19] <Emil> but amt64 works on this?
1629 [14:38:29] <Emil> Then I shall reburn my usb stick
1630 [14:38:33] <help-needed-asap> babilen: i feel you are making it more difficult thant it is
1631 [14:38:35] <Emil> babilen: when booting the install media
1632 [14:39:25] <Emil> I previously had a 32-bit os on this but if it does support 64 bits then heck yeah, 64 bits it is
1633 [14:39:28] <babilen> Emil: Just checked, you can't use amd64 on that Atom N270
1634 [14:39:36] <Emil> babilen: okay, good to know
1635 [14:39:48] <babilen> help-needed-asap: I just wanted to know what the problem is. So: Does it show the font in Chromium?
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1637 [14:40:07] <help-needed-asap> babilen: no it does not show
1638 [14:40:07] <babilen> help-needed-asap: People don't normally copy and paste random configs without a reason
1639 [14:40:23] <babilen> help-needed-asap: Just to clarify: I am referring to Chromium (not Chrome)
1640 [14:40:31] <Emil> (And above of course it was 586 instead of 858)
1641 [14:40:31] <help-needed-asap> babilen: i have both installed
1642 [14:40:34] <Emil> 585*
1643 [14:41:04] <help-needed-asap> babilen: the font is better for my eyes
1644 [14:41:15] <babilen> help-needed-asap: I couldn't reproduce it not being shown in chromium on unstable, which is why I ask
1645 [14:42:06] <help-needed-asap> oh so you have terminus shown in your chromium ? I have no idea what I did wrong then..
1646 [14:42:33] <babilen> I do, but not in Chrome
1647 [14:42:45] <babilen> (but I'm running unstable on this box)
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1650 [14:44:08] <babilen> dpkg: tell Emil -about pae
1651 [14:44:26] <help-needed-asap> babilen: where have you placed the fonts.conf ? also in $HOME?
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1654 [14:45:52] <babilen> help-needed-asap: Nowhere, the package ships its own in /etc/fonts/conf.avail/50-enable-terminus.conf (/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-enable-terminus.conf)
1655 [14:46:16] <babilen> Which is why I wondered why you thought that you have to create a configuration file yourself
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1660 [14:48:59] <help-needed-asap> babilen: because the fonts.conf is there to force* the use of terminus to the browser : replaced-url
1661 [14:49:56] <help-needed-asap> force chromium to use terminus
1662 [14:49:59] <babilen> I take it that the font is listed in "fc-list" ?
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1665 [14:51:27] <help-needed-asap> babilen: yes it is listed
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1691 [15:02:31] <zykotick9> help-needed-asap: just an FYI, my Chromium on stable doesn't seem to apply any font changes. While i see terminus in the list, selecting it doesn't seem to change anything - so i tried changing all the fonts to OpenSymbol - restarted chromium, still no change... best of luck.
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1730 [15:18:12] <babilen> zykotick9: Which makes it even more mysterious why it doesn't list Terminus for help-needed-asap
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1825 [16:02:04] <Beretta021> hi, all, i installed debian on my vm, i'm trying to set static ip, i added it to /etc/network/interfaces, after service networking restart nothing happens, after reboot i don't have ip
1826 [16:02:54] <zykotick9> Beretta021: perhaps posting your /e/n/i file would assist people in helping. best of luck.
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1828 [16:03:05] <Beretta021> one sec
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1831 [16:04:15] <sh00p> Beretta021, are you running a gui? in that case network manager might interfere
1832 [16:04:46] <sh00p> also, posting the mentioned file will be useful
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1835 [16:05:54] <Beretta021> replaced-url
1836 [16:06:09] <Beretta021> i'm in gui
1837 [16:06:13] <Beretta021> i tried to disable gui
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1840 [16:06:31] * zykotick9 should have been more specific on where to paste :(
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1842 [16:06:45] <Beretta021> but nothing happens, i don't know what is happening with os
1843 [16:06:55] <sh00p> which one Beretta021? gnome? kde?
1844 [16:07:01] <Beretta021> gnome
1845 [16:07:03] <Beretta021> fuck
1846 [16:07:05] <Beretta021> xfce
1847 [16:07:06] <Beretta021> lol
1848 [16:07:08] <Beretta021> :D
1849 [16:07:09] <sh00p> :)
1850 [16:07:15] <Beretta021> i see what's the problem
1851 [16:07:16] <Beretta021> :D
1852 [16:07:21] <sh00p> xfce is my fav, there should be a network-manager applet running
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1854 [16:07:45] <sh00p> you can set static ip there
1855 [16:07:48] <bitgamy> network-manager takes over the show, when using gui
1856 [16:08:39] <sh00p> yeah, there is a way to configure network-manager to not run for certain interfaces, but i never bothered
1857 [16:08:40] <Beretta021> i don't want gui
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1860 [16:09:00] <Beretta021> which dm is on xfce?
1861 [16:09:09] <sh00p> lightdm i think
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1864 [16:09:58] <mtn> Beretta021: if network manager is running, you don't have a choice
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1867 [16:10:18] <bitgamy> you can remove network-manager from list of init processes that start automatically
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1869 [16:10:53] <bitgamy> its not required
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1872 [16:12:06] <Beretta021> can i disable it via systemd or debian doesn't have systemd?
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1875 [16:14:33] <mtn> Beretta021: try it and see?
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1880 [16:16:00] <bitgamy> try service network-manager status
1881 [16:16:06] <bitgamy> service network-manager stop
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1886 [16:17:32] <Beretta021> i want to disable
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1888 [16:17:35] <Beretta021> not to stop
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1891 [16:18:58] <Beretta021> bitgamy: i'm more familiar with systemd
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1893 [16:19:13] <bitgamy> try removing symbolic link from /etc/init.d/network-manager
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1895 [16:20:30] <bitgamy> then reboot, it should not come back up automatically
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1900 [16:22:03] <bitgamy> Beretta021: sorry what deb ver you running? you aren't using systemd? (i missed the first part of the conversation)
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1902 [16:22:53] <Beretta021> installed fresh debian yesterday
1903 [16:23:18] <bitgamy> what ver deb? 8?
1904 [16:23:23] <Beretta021> i think it is
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1907 [16:24:08] <bitgamy> then you're likely using systemd vs the older sysvinit
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1910 [16:25:09] <Beretta021> but why systemd doesn't work, i tried systemctl disable network-manager but it starts after reboot :(
1911 [16:25:24] <Beretta021> also tried update-rc.d
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1914 [16:25:59] <babilen> Beretta021: network-manager typically doesn't manage interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
1915 [16:26:37] <babilen> (and you want mask)
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1919 [16:28:07] <bitgamy> Beretta021: Did you try to remove the /etc/init.d/network-manager symbolic link and restart?
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1936 [16:33:15] <Beretta021> ok, nm is disabled now
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1938 [16:33:39] <Beretta021> do i need dhcpcd or something to /etc/network/interfaces work?
1939 [16:33:43] <babilen> Beretta021: systemctl mask if what I'm referring to, but that shouldn't be necessary as NM won't manage interfaces in /e/n/i -- You can also purge it completely if you don't want to use it at all (which makes a lot more sense than masking it IMHO)
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1942 [16:34:15] <babilen> Beretta021: If you could paste your /etc/network/interfaces to replaced-url
1943 [16:34:34] <Beretta021> here it is
1944 [16:34:35] <Beretta021> replaced-url
1945 [16:34:37] <babilen> And no, you typically don't have to run a DHCP server to use a DHCP client (if that is what you want to do)
1946 [16:34:41] <babilen> dpkg: pastebin.cim
1947 [16:34:42] <dpkg> babilen: wish i knew
1948 [16:34:43] <babilen> dpkg: pastebin.com
1949 [16:34:48] <babilen> dpkg: pastebin.com
1950 [16:34:48] <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like replaced-url
1951 [16:35:07] <Beretta021> lol
1952 [16:35:15] <babilen> Looks as if you are configuring a static IP address. You don't need DHCP at all in that case.
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1959 [16:36:15] <Beretta021> replaced-url
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1961 [16:36:45] <babilen> Beretta021: Do you want that interface to come up automatically when you boot?
1962 [16:36:51] <Beretta021> yes
1963 [16:37:04] <babilen> You need "auto eth0" in that case
1964 [16:37:12] <Beretta021> k, thanks
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1972 [16:38:31] <heibol> maybe another software start the service, use systemd-cgls to see it.
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1991 [16:44:37] <Beretta021> yes, it works now
1992 [16:44:40] <Beretta021> thanks guys
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2003 [16:52:32] <Beretta021> i have one more question
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2007 [16:53:10] <fredl> this is so pleasant...
2008 [16:53:11] <Beretta021> if i wan't to access to server via ssh from outside of my local network
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2010 [16:53:26] <fredl> remove all that GNOME crap... run xdm/fluxbox
2011 [16:53:28] <Beretta021> do i need to forward port 22 in my router to server addr
2012 [16:53:29] <Beretta021> ?
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2015 [16:54:19] <Biboon> Beretta021, yes
2016 [16:54:30] <Beretta021> ok thanks
2017 [16:54:42] <Biboon> Hello everyone, I would like to know your advices about the stability and bleeding edge-ness of Debian Unstable, Stretch and Arch Linux
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2019 [16:55:05] <fredl> jelly, you around?
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2021 [16:55:17] <Beretta021> i'm using arch, it works like a charm
2022 [16:55:20] <Beretta021> but not testing
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2026 [16:57:28] <Beretta021> Biboon: as a desktop os?
2027 [16:58:03] <zykotick9> Beretta021: testing/unstable are the development arms for debian (stable). they are moving tarkets that can be "broken" at any time... some people like to use them, i don't understand why. but i value "works everytime" above all else, ymmv.
2028 [16:58:22] <zykotick9> Biboon: ^ sorry
2029 [16:58:38] <Biboon> Yes, until now i have been using debian stable and never had to complain
2030 [16:59:41] <Biboon> but i want to setup a pci passtrough windows VM and it seems like that it needs more recent packages
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2032 [17:00:37] <Beretta021> i tried yesterday to set up gpu passthrough, but my cpu doesn't support vt-d :(
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2034 [17:01:00] <Beretta021> on arch you need linux-vfio kernel
2035 [17:01:12] <Beretta021> other setting is pretty easy
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2037 [17:01:40] <Beretta021> and vt-d cpu and mobo
2038 [17:01:52] <Biboon> Yes I know this the wiki is pretty straightforward
2039 [17:02:04] <babilen> Biboon: I've been using a testing/unstable mix (tracking unstable) for many years now and didn't have many problems. There were some ugly bugs, but nothing that couldn't be fixed. You have to be willing to learn a bit about Debian packaging and keep an eye on news, transitions and bugs though.
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2041 [17:02:20] <babilen> Biboon: You might be interested in replaced-url
2042 [17:03:13] <Beretta021> problem with arch is because you need to compile kernel every time it's updated
2043 [17:03:37] <mtn> Beretta021: that is just silly and wrong
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2045 [17:03:54] <Beretta021> it's third party
2046 [17:04:02] <Beretta021> there is no official vfio kernel
2047 [17:04:03] <Beretta021> for arch
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2050 [17:04:45] <Beretta021> i think that on debian/ubuntu is that much more easier
2051 [17:05:24] <Beretta021> oh i can't wait to get vt-d cpu
2052 [17:05:25] <Beretta021> :D
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2060 [17:06:43] <fredl> Hmm I'm just reading replaced-url
2061 [17:07:04] <fredl> And I don't think gpu passthrough is so easy with Debian
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2068 [17:08:36] <Beretta021> it's not hard at all
2069 [17:08:55] <Beretta021> no patching kernel :D
2070 [17:08:59] <fredl> well it says there that in Jessie the qemu and libvirt versions are too old
2071 [17:09:07] <fredl> and none in the backports
2072 [17:09:31] <fredl> to be honest I'm quite stumped by that, I tried doing that same stuff unsuccesfully years ago
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2074 [17:09:56] <fredl> and apparently it's *still* problematic
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2079 [17:11:07] <Beretta021> what was the problem?
2080 [17:11:21] <fredl> I just said that.
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2082 [17:11:35] <fredl> old versions of qemu and libvirt
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2085 [17:12:05] <fredl> but back when I tried it long ago, those would have seemed a breeze :P
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2087 [17:12:32] <fredl> interestingly, here replaced-url
2088 [17:12:34] <fredl> is
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2090 [17:12:53] <Biboon> I got it working on arch with qemu 2.7.0 and libvirt is at 2.4.0
2091 [17:12:58] <fredl> maybe I should try it, that's be cool
2092 [17:13:04] <fredl> that'd
2093 [17:13:31] <Biboon> There is also the discussion between kvm and xen
2094 [17:13:44] <fredl> heh that discussion is also years old.
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2096 [17:13:58] <fredl> I'm running on virtualbox now.
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2098 [17:14:34] <fredl> oh well, I'm off
2099 [17:14:45] <Biboon> ok bye thanks :)
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2110 [17:17:04] <daemon> hey all does anyone know what provides
2111 [17:17:04] <daemon> python waf configure
2112 [17:17:07] <daemon> '/usr/bin/pkg-config', 'IL',
2113 [17:17:24] <daemon> I am missing a development library but search IL brings back way to many articles
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2115 [17:18:02] <TomTomTosch> ,file /usr/bin/pkg-config
2116 [17:18:06] <judd> Search for /usr/bin/pkg-config in jessie/amd64: pkgconf: usr/bin/pkg-config; pkg-config: usr/bin/pkg-config
2117 [17:18:15] <TomTomTosch> ^^
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2119 [17:18:39] <babilen> It appears that the problem is finding "IL" rather than pkg-config
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2124 [17:19:02] <daemon> TomTomTosch, its not pkg-config im missing, is IL
2125 [17:19:04] <babilen> But then .. there is a *lot* of context missing, so it might very well be that
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2127 [17:19:11] <daemon> Checking for 'IL' : not found
2128 [17:19:18] <TomTomTosch> ah, right.
2129 [17:19:20] <daemon> no reference in the docs as to what it is
2130 [17:19:21] <babilen> What is checking?
2131 [17:19:27] <daemon> paul@box:~/quake2xp-code$ python waf configure
2132 [17:19:32] <daemon> python waf script
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2134 [17:19:42] <babilen> quake2xp ?
2135 [17:19:48] <daemon> just a quake2 engine
2136 [17:20:05] <daemon> the one one in apt does not work correctly on my system
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2144 [17:23:18] <daemon> all the config log says is
2145 [17:23:20] <daemon> err: Package IL was not found in the pkg-config search path.
2146 [17:23:20] <daemon> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `IL.pc'
2147 [17:23:25] <daemon> little vague on what the heck it actually is
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2149 [17:23:42] <deemel> Can't find it now somehow, what was the fstab option to ignore a partition that cannot be mounted?
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2204 [17:51:25] <jim> daemon, one thing about debian package names... I think they're always lower case
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2206 [17:51:47] <Lope> anyone used rtgui?
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2266 [18:24:19] <|\n> hello, is there someone who has free jessie ksplice working on some instance?
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2289 [18:38:11] <luxio> How do I get Atheros firmware running on Debian without an internet connection
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2291 [18:38:25] <luxio> I have this replaced-url
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2299 [18:45:28] <nkuttler> luxio: go to packages.debian.org and download it
2300 [18:46:14] <luxio> nkuttler: I can't, I have no internet
2301 [18:46:25] <nkuttler> luxio: you're on irc..
2302 [18:46:29] <luxio> magic.
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2310 [18:49:11] <edi> luxio: which device you use for internet atm
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2319 [18:52:14] <luxio> edi: magic
2320 [18:52:17] <luxio> jk the desktop that im gonna install debian on
2321 [18:53:03] <missmbob> !firmware iso
2322 [18:53:04] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
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2326 [18:55:01] <luxio> missmbob: AR9271 isn't nonfree
2327 [18:55:58] <missmbob> ,pciid 0cf3:9271
2328 [18:55:59] <judd> [0cf3:9271] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also replaced-url
2329 [18:56:15] <nkuttler> !tell luxio about non-free
2330 [18:56:27] <missmbob> luxio: firmware-atheros is in non-free
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2333 [18:57:37] <missmbob> still might not work. you might have to install it and then get firmware-atheros from jessie-backports, perhaps new kernel from jessie-backports as well manually from packages.debian.org and then dpkg -i them
2334 [18:57:55] <luxio> but AR9271 specifically is supposed to be free? replaced-url
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2342 [19:00:27] <luxio> I dunno how I'm supposed to build that if I can't install git, cmake, etc
2343 [19:00:32] <luxio> without internet
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2345 [19:01:32] <|\n> is there someone who has free jessie ksplice working on some instance?
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2386 [19:20:06] <Stiffler> hello
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2388 [19:20:35] <Stiffler> looking help for how to add new item with right click open with
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2390 [19:20:44] <edmont> why wouldn't udev re-populate the /dev/serial folder after replugin a device which actually appears as /dev/ttyACM0?
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2392 [19:21:45] <missmbob> Stiffler: "open with other application" then it should remember it in the list for that filetype in the future
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2394 [19:22:02] <Stiffler> i cant find that application in that list
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2396 [19:22:23] <Stiffler> just installed wine-developemnt i have to go to terminal to open .exe with it
2397 [19:22:25] <missmbob> you can pick "custom command"...dont have to pick anything
2398 [19:22:36] <Stiffler> dont have that option
2399 [19:22:44] <Stiffler> custom commond
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2403 [19:23:11] <Stiffler> it so weird in gnome3 and new nautilus
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2406 [19:23:35] <Stiffler> u cant even change the gedit theme in normal mode... weird
2407 [19:23:45] <missmbob> Stiffler: nautilus with custom comand shows you how in gnome. xfce here
2408 [19:24:01] <missmbob> google that, i mean.
2409 [19:24:29] <missmbob> Stiffler: replaced-url
2410 [19:24:32] <Stiffler> googling it got me making things in ubuntu and arc with new mime types html sheets
2411 [19:25:17] <Stiffler> not in debian... 8 nautilus --> properties --> no custome command
2412 [19:25:20] <Stiffler> i see only 3
2413 [19:25:33] <Stiffler> reset / add / set as default
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2418 [19:25:57] <Stiffler> where add is adding the list of the pre shown apps cant add new custom apps with it
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2432 [19:30:43] <Stiffler> @missmbob thanks got it
2433 [19:30:43] <Stiffler> link was helpfull
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2484 [19:46:19] <Mazhive> small question what would be the best way to let me update apache2.2.22 to 2.4 since i am using debian wheezy it would break some packges..
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2489 [19:46:32] <Mazhive> not ??
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2496 [19:48:12] <comodorowolf> ola alguém em portugues
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2500 [19:50:07] <missmbob> !br
2501 [19:50:07] <dpkg> Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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2504 [19:51:14] <missmbob> Mazhive: upgrade to jessie. even then that'll break apache itself. that's why there are release notes...replaced-url
2505 [19:51:27] <Mazhive> or would compile from source be a better alternative
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2515 [19:55:00] <Mazhive> would dist upgrade be an option for an existing webserver and would that not break apache eventually
2516 [19:55:09] <Mazhive> too
2517 [19:55:41] <missmbob> it's really the only option. but yes it'll break apache because of the configuration file incompatibility between 2.2 and 2.4. so you should really read those release notes i linked you to
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2521 [19:56:15] <Mazhive> so purging before dist upgrade
2522 [19:56:37] <missmbob> so. you can just manually edit the config files...that'll be easier/faster. but purge would work if you dont really care
2523 [19:56:39] <Mazhive> i was reading it
2524 [19:57:09] <Mazhive> i have a backup so i could read from it if necessary
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2560 [20:12:00] <h3ndr1ku5> does the purge command leave configuration files that have changed by the user? just rm -rf /etc/apache and upgrade then make new configs?
2561 [20:13:10] <babilen> dpkg: confnew
2562 [20:13:11] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
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2576 [20:21:48] <mxbd> I have a wireless card that has bluetooth and wireless on it. It works out of the box on ubuntu and not on debian, believe it's a nonfree driver. I have firmware-linux-nonfree and iwlwifi installed. However, only the bluetooth is detected? I don't have a device name for the wireless portion.
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2579 [20:24:29] <h3ndr1ku5> isent there debian nonfree image also avaible?
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2581 [20:24:58] <missmbob> !firmware iso
2582 [20:24:58] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
2583 [20:25:06] <h3ndr1ku5> that was easist way for live usb becouse no time for live to compile got damn drivers if needed to look something from internet
2584 [20:25:24] <mxbd> replaced-url
2585 [20:25:35] <h3ndr1ku5> there should be live also, its kinda deeper @ the download section
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2588 [20:25:49] <missmbob> replaced-url
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2590 [20:26:09] <missmbob> (8.6.0-live+nonfree)
2591 [20:26:10] <h3ndr1ku5> replaced-url
2592 [20:26:31] <h3ndr1ku5> go back few folders if amd64 isent for you
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2594 [20:28:15] <tinyhippo> whats the best way of disabling ufw from starting on boot, if you dont have physical access to the machine nad you've managed to lock yourself out via ufw
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2596 [20:28:57] <n4dir> mxbd: are you looking for a live CD or do you want to enable wifi on an installed version?
2597 [20:29:10] <missmbob> call someone that has physical access or get in your car/plane
2598 [20:29:44] <mxbd> I have debian installed on my system. The livecd I burnt didn't have it so I figured I'd just plug ethernet in until I could figure it out.
2599 [20:30:06] <mxbd> so yes, installed version
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2601 [20:30:19] <n4dir> mxbd: i think that is what you are looking for: replaced-url
2602 [20:30:52] <n4dir> in general i do "lspci | grep -i network" and post the result in a searchengine and add +debian, which usually works
2603 [20:31:18] <mxbd> I have iwlwifi installed, and modprobe says it's there.
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2605 [20:31:37] <mxbd> My card still isn't detected though. The bluetooth portion of the same card is working. The wireless-network portion is not working.
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2610 [20:32:57] <mxbd> Modprobe -r iwlwifi doesn't return a line, but I have iwlwifi installed from firmware-iwlwifi
2611 [20:33:05] <oliv3r> Hi, i'm looking for the systemd-firstboot binary in debian, but it seemst o have been stripped/ommited
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2615 [20:34:13] <n4dir> lspci -k will tell you which driver is used. You could do that on ubuntu and compare (can't see why it shouldn't be the same, just shooting ideas)
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2618 [20:34:42] <missmbob> lspci -nn for pciid whould really be useful to know which exact chipset you're using
2619 [20:35:18] <mxbd> 8086:24f3
2620 [20:35:25] <mxbd> which is listed under iwlwifi :p
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2623 [20:35:59] <missmbob> you could try getting iwlwifi from jessie-backports. and a new kernel as well
2624 [20:36:14] <mxbd> what do you mean a new kernel
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2626 [20:36:37] <missmbob> i mean upgrade the kernel to 4.7 which is in jessie-backports
2627 [20:36:40] <n4dir> mxbd: you probably read this already (seems a different problem anyway) replaced-url
2628 [20:36:58] <missmbob> !tell mxbd about backports
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2630 [20:37:23] <missmbob> mxbd: read those instructions. then upgrade the kernel and iwlwifi to the jessie-backports version. reboot.
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2632 [20:37:54] <mxbd> will do, thanks n4dir missmbob. I'll come back
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2635 [20:38:21] <h3ndr1ku5> isent the easist way would just add non free repo and do apt upgrade
2636 [20:38:51] <n4dir> upgrade does nothing if you only enable non-free
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2639 [20:39:06] <missmbob> he already has it.
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2641 [20:39:19] <h3ndr1ku5> are you sure?
2642 [20:39:26] <n4dir> of coursee
2643 [20:39:27] <mxbd> I have nonfree in my sources list
2644 [20:39:28] <missmbob> yes
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2649 [20:41:10] <h3ndr1ku5> maye i just got newer kernel what included driver for my wifi back in the days then
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2653 [20:41:35] <h3ndr1ku5> is it pci or usb device?
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2655 [20:42:08] <missmbob> he has a pciid. what's that tell you?
2656 [20:42:18] <h3ndr1ku5> paste output from lsub/lspci
2657 [20:42:27] <h3ndr1ku5> well pcie i suppose
2658 [20:42:56] <missmbob> mxbd: pretty much ignore this noise :/
2659 [20:43:08] <mxbd> replaced-url
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2668 [20:45:26] <mxbd> How do I verify that iwlwifi is active?
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2670 [20:45:30] <mxbd> the package is installed
2671 [20:45:35] <mxbd> but how do I knwo it's "there"
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2675 [20:46:20] <mxbd> modprobe iwlwifi doesn't return anything, but firmware-iwlwifi is installed. the disconnect is here
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2677 [20:46:52] <alecs1> hi, since I updated a couple of days ago I have two projects which are no longer able to link to static libraries:
2678 [20:46:52] <alecs1> /usr/bin/ld: ../gnugo/patterns/libpatterns.a(helpers.c.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against undefined symbol `white_eye' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
2679 [20:46:52] <alecs1> /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output
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2681 [20:47:04] <alecs1> any change to ld that I should be aware of?
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2689 [20:47:59] <h3ndr1ku5> maybe you need the never firmware to be installed
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2691 [20:48:09] <h3ndr1ku5> read microcode / ucode
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2695 [20:48:45] <h3ndr1ku5> iwlwifi-8000-ucode-16.242414.0.tgz for kernel 4.3+
2696 [20:48:46] <n4dir> mxbd i assumed "lsmod | grep iwlwifi" would do it, but it just failed on me. not sure.
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2702 [20:49:24] <mxbd> iwlwifi 96547 0
2703 [20:49:24] <mxbd> cfg80211 413730 1 iwlwifi
2704 [20:49:28] <mxbd> Mine returned two ?
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2707 [20:49:37] <h3ndr1ku5> "The files iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode provided in this package
2708 [20:49:37] <h3ndr1ku5> must be present on your system in order for the Intel Wireless WiFi Link
2709 [20:49:37] <h3ndr1ku5> AGN driver for Linux (iwlwifi) to operate on your system.
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2711 [20:49:58] <h3ndr1ku5> Installation of the firmware is simply:
2712 [20:49:58] <h3ndr1ku5> % cp iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode /lib/firmware
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2715 [20:50:39] <h3ndr1ku5> reboot after that i suppose
2716 [20:50:40] <mxbd> I've actually done that already -- I've downloaded ucode-15 and ucode-13
2717 [20:50:46] <mxbd> so I need 16? instead
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2719 [20:50:56] <h3ndr1ku5> 16? for the 8000 series
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2721 [20:51:04] <h3ndr1ku5> Installation of the firmware is simply:
2722 [20:51:04] <h3ndr1ku5> % cp iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode /lib/firmware
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2725 [20:51:29] <mxbd> Alright, I'll downloade -16 then. thanks h3ndr1ku5
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2727 [20:52:31] <mxbd> How do I know what my kernel is? I obviously need to be at 4.3+
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2729 [20:52:40] <missmbob> uname -r
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2731 [20:52:59] <mxbd> 3.16.0-4 then
2732 [20:53:00] <missmbob> told you. you need to upgrade to the 4.7 from jessie-backports.
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2752 [21:08:24] <mxbd> missmbob: replaced-url
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2754 [21:09:50] <missmbob> mxbd: you're doing it wrong. let's go back a bit though. show your sources.list in paste.debian.net
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2756 [21:10:54] <missmbob> mxbd: if your sources.list is right you'll want to do apt-get install Univision Deportes
2757 [21:10:57] <missmbob> Osorio tendrá que hacer cambios para la visita de México a Panamá. Estas son las tres bajas del 'Tri' para ese partido.
2758 [21:11:00] <missmbob> damnit, sorry
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2760 [21:11:15] <CutMeOwnThroat> ^ ^
2761 [21:11:18] <missmbob> apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi linux-image-amd64 -t jessie-backports
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2763 [21:11:22] <fguide> lol
2764 [21:11:26] <mxbd> what
2765 [21:11:35] <fguide> poor Osorio
2766 [21:11:52] <CutMeOwnThroat> the 4.x kernels unfortunately indeed depend on the newer linux-base
2767 [21:11:53] <missmbob> obviously it was a wrong paste.
2768 [21:11:59] <missmbob> which jessie-backports has
2769 [21:12:07] <missmbob> so if he gave the correct -t command it would work
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2771 [21:12:30] <CutMeOwnThroat> yes… it's a matter of package priorities
2772 [21:13:01] <missmbob> mxbd: did that apt-get work?
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2774 [21:13:55] <mxbd> missmbob: Yes, that seems to have installed something.
2775 [21:14:31] <mxbd> seems like it's replaced my linux-image-amd64. Thank you
2776 [21:14:38] <mxbd> reboot and see what happens next ?
2777 [21:14:40] <missmbob> and the firmware?
2778 [21:14:55] <mxbd> was already newest version
2779 [21:15:18] <missmbob> did you use -t jessie-backports for that one too? then yes, reboot
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2782 [21:16:20] <mxbd> Yep. Alright, thanks for the help missmbob h3ndr1ku5, I'll brb. :)
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2806 [21:37:45] <Rogach> Hi! I'm have some questions about dpkg behaviour in critical situations. For example, is it possible for dpkg to "partially" write a file (corrupting it) if it was interrupted during install? Or are file writes atomic?
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2820 [21:51:40] <oliv3r> Hi, i'm looking for the systemd-firstboot binary in debian, but it seemst o have been stripped/ommited; anybody know more about this?
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2824 [21:52:32] <ryouma> Rogach: i have heard that you are not supposed to interrupt aptitude upgrade, so it sounds possible that there would be issues. however, good design would mandate that that never be a problem.
2825 [21:52:34] <ryouma> so dunno
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2828 [21:55:17] <Sircle> Can anyone guide in these iptable rules? replaced-url
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2847 [22:08:28] * Rogach ryouma: I understand that I'm not supposed to, but in real world bad stuff happens and I need to remote unattended updates - so I'm interested how it would fare.
2848 [22:08:32] <Rogach> ryouma: I understand that I'm not supposed to, but in real world bad stuff happens and I need to remote unattended updates - so I'm interested how it would fare.
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2861 [22:14:22] <kingsley> What's the word on the street for supporting accelerated video with open source and no binary blobs?
2862 [22:14:51] <kingsley> Have you heard any whispers that it's possible?
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2864 [22:15:24] <Stiffler> how can i change the theme of geditor ..
2865 [22:15:34] <Stiffler> without going through root
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2867 [22:15:58] <ryouma> Rogach: indeed. i do not know why it would not be designed to be totally safe.
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2869 [22:16:44] <ryouma> kingsley: not sure i understand. there are free drivers that work for many cards. some might need firmware.
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2875 [22:18:10] <kingsley> ryouma: I'm looking for accelerated video with no closed source. In a driver, blob, or otherwise.
2876 [22:18:23] <teraflops> kingsley: for what GPU are you asking?
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2878 [22:18:48] <kingsley> And I'm staring to wonder if looking for BigFoot would be a better use of my time.
2879 [22:19:11] <awal1> :D
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2881 [22:19:25] <teraflops> kingsley: or just ask more specifically
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2883 [22:20:55] <kingsley> teraflops: If you happen to know of a GPU that works with pure open source, and no closed source firmware, please enlighten me.
2884 [22:21:38] <Stiffler> kingsley it will soon
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2886 [22:21:47] <Stiffler> as directx is being replaced
2887 [22:22:13] <kingsley> Stiffler: Which "it" are you alluding to?
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2889 [22:23:00] <Stiffler> umm gpu firmware?
2890 [22:23:33] <Sircle> Stiffler: did you wrote the iptable command?
2891 [22:23:47] <Sircle> replaced-url
2892 [22:23:50] <teraflops> kingsley: I don't care to be honest, perhaps intel gpu with mesa but idk
2893 [22:23:51] <Stiffler> oh dam
2894 [22:23:57] <Stiffler> ok
2895 [22:24:04] <Stiffler> ok i am confused
2896 [22:24:09] <Stiffler> i am chatting in so many channel
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2898 [22:24:59] <Stiffler> which ip table command are u refereting too?
2899 [22:25:12] <Stiffler> yes i have writen one
2900 [22:25:18] <Stiffler> but which one u are talking about
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2902 [22:25:46] <Stiffler> sircle were u on the code site then yes
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2905 [22:27:03] <Sircle> Stiffler: +catphish> zapotah: i'm pretty sure PREROUTING works on outbound traffic
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2907 [22:27:48] <Stiffler> sircle i dont know how ur ip tables is or what are u trying to acheive i can only give u directions and formate
2908 [22:28:06] <Sircle> hm. thanks. its a good start Stiffler
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2921 [22:32:53] <missmbob> #netfilter would be better. that's the home for iptables
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2928 [22:35:00] <Stiffler> some 1 tell me how to change the theme of the dam gedit in normal mode
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2931 [22:36:14] <missmbob> menu->preferences->font & colors
2932 [22:36:52] <Stiffler> no option of preferece in normale mode..
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2934 [22:37:36] <Stiffler> i only get that if i open gedit in root mode
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2937 [22:38:31] <missmbob> works here. maybe you fucked it up. you can try removing ./.config/gedit/
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2941 [22:39:56] <Stiffler> just deleted it its still same
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2946 [22:40:32] <missmbob> start it from command prompt and see if there are hints
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2948 [22:41:22] <Stiffler> their are several gtk warnings
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2953 [22:44:14] <Stiffler> here the warnings
2954 [22:44:14] <Stiffler> replaced-url
2955 [22:44:47] <Stiffler> i cant even view gedit version with these new gui
2956 [22:45:07] <missmbob> eh those mean nothing
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2959 [22:46:02] <Stiffler> exactly
2960 [22:46:09] <Stiffler> those are the only things i got
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2963 [22:46:27] <Stiffler> i am giving u screen wait
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2974 [22:49:04] <Stiffler> replaced-url
2975 [22:49:07] <Stiffler> their
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2977 [22:49:56] <missmbob> *shurg* i dont know what would do that
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2979 [22:50:35] <Stiffler> hmmm
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2981 [22:51:19] <Stiffler> miss u are using deb 8?
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2983 [22:51:44] <missmbob> yes
2984 [22:51:50] <Stiffler> hmm
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2986 [22:51:56] <Stiffler> am stretch
2987 [22:52:10] <missmbob> they have their own channel that might be more helpful. maybe they know what's going on
2988 [22:52:13] <missmbob> !debian-next
2989 [22:52:14] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2990 [22:52:23] <Stiffler> its inivte only
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2992 [22:52:42] <Stiffler> how can i join like that if those gay asses made it invite only
2993 [22:52:42] <missmbob> read the whole message
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2996 [22:53:37] <babilen> Stiffler: Please tone down those sexist remarks. Seriously, it's neither funny nor appropriate.
2997 [22:53:58] <babilen> s/tone down/refrain from/
2998 [22:54:00] <Stiffler> sry my appologies
2999 [22:54:32] <Stiffler> habbituated due to gamming didnt mean any racist comments
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3001 [22:54:57] <babilen> It has no place in here (nor anywhere else)
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3003 [22:55:22] <Stiffler> its does in gamming world but meaning differs
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3007 [22:56:15] <Stiffler> just enterted sry for being dumb ;p
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3012 [22:56:57] <babilen> The meaning is very much the same, but lets move on. Please try to refrain from sexist remarks in the future
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3014 [22:57:49] <Stiffler> i will try my best :)
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3034 [23:10:13] <Mazhive> small problem ... upgraded from debian 7 to debian 8 now my email tester complains my mail is been send from host.domain.com as it was before the upgrade domain.com how can i fix this
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3038 [23:11:54] <Stiffler> conf ur host file
3039 [23:12:09] <pron> i am looking for terminal emulator where i can save profiles ( actualy ssh sessions ), get the list of them with shortcut and without using mouse open them in new tab , also if i need i can duplicate the tab and get another connection to same mashine, any suggestions ?
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3042 [23:12:50] <pron> basicly i am looking for replacement of iterm2
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3055 [23:22:32] <ryouma> Stiffler: are you saying free gpu firmwill will be implemented soon, or that it will be as productive as looking for bigfoot soon?
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3057 [23:23:15] <ryouma> (real question)
3058 [23:23:24] <Stiffler> ryoma inventing or discovering something is not cup of inta noddle
3059 [23:23:27] <imMute> if you mean firmware as in the programmable bits in the GPU itself, lol, no, that'll probably never be opensourced. (I'd love to be proven wrong though)
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3062 [23:24:14] <Stiffler> why not?
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3064 [23:24:29] <Stiffler> so is anroid doing same thing
3065 [23:24:33] <Stiffler> but its open source
3066 [23:24:37] <Stiffler> so is linux
3067 [23:24:41] <Stiffler> its open soruce
3068 [23:24:48] <Stiffler> even OS does same shit
3069 [23:24:52] <Mazhive> host file has fqdn
3070 [23:24:55] <Stiffler> and most of them are open
3071 [23:25:03] * themill takes away Stiffler's enter key
3072 [23:25:03] <Mazhive> so host.domain.com
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3074 [23:25:48] <imMute> Stiffler: not the firmware inside the GPU. (and I'm not talking about user code that happens to execute on the GPU). it's the same kind of thing as Intel's microcode - it's too valuable to intel/nvidia/ati/whoever to open source it.
3075 [23:26:13] <Stiffler> i told their is a possibility
3076 [23:26:25] <Stiffler> to some extent
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3084 [23:30:09] <kler> h-hello ? ;x
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3089 [23:32:53] <brimonk> Can someone help me bind a key from one device to another key? I bought a USB footpedal to use as a push to talk for games, but it's already bound to 'b'. How do I rebind 'b' from only that device.
3090 [23:32:57] <brimonk> ?
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3106 [23:39:40] <mdk> Hi, where does the localedata/ directory from the glibc come from? I see it in the tarball (from apt-get source) but not in the git repo
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