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3 [00:03:10] <unborn> Guest57977: flash is dead
4 [00:03:50] <awal1> Guest57977: chromium+pepperflashplugin-nonfree or firefox+browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is an alternative for adobe flash, a better alternative
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16 [00:09:00] <petn-randall> It's still used in 2016? Not on any pages I use. Only for advertisement maybe ...
17 [00:09:22] <rhe> does twitch still use flash?
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20 [00:09:51] <TomTomTo1> yes, but they offer a html5 player now too.
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22 [00:09:58] <rhe> oh, nice!
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150 [01:25:12] <z4g4> hello
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180 [01:41:41] <jak2000> hi all
181 [01:42:08] <gry> hi z4g4 jak2000 :)
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186 [01:43:33] <z4g4> hi
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192 [01:48:38] <jak2000> gry, z4g4 i want a beer
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194 [01:48:46] <naptastic> TIFU my dpkg trying to update Virtualbox. Systemd blew up (double-free or corruption) during a pre-trigger, and now I can't perform any actions that I can think of. Help?
195 [01:49:06] <naptastic> Fairly comprehensive output (and probably a better explanation than I've offered) replaced-url
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200 [01:50:29] <Emil> There are magic commands that are poorly documented
201 [01:50:41] <naptastic> Emil, that sounds like exactly what I need right now.
202 [01:50:58] <Emil> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
203 [01:51:02] <naptastic> If I were on an RPM system, I would do `rpm -e --nodeps --justdb $package`
204 [01:51:03] <Emil> replaced-url
205 [01:51:08] <naptastic> that sounds like exactly what I want :)
206 [01:51:11] * naptastic tries it
207 [01:52:01] <gry> jak2000, you can have a virtual beer, or come to a debconf to have a real one. replaced-url
208 [01:52:10] <Emil> replaced-url
209 [01:52:13] <Emil> Also this
210 [01:52:31] <Emil> I have battled same broken packages shit out multiple times with gitlab install
211 [01:52:36] <naptastic> Emil, that did exactly the trick. Thanks!
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213 [01:53:00] <Emil> naptastic: nope problem, keywords for search are "apt-get remove broken"
214 [01:53:05] <naptastic> I'm adding that to my notes in case I ever run into this again. (But given this is the first time I've had this situation in >6 years of using Debian...)
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216 [01:53:50] <Emil> Yeah, I've also used Debian for quite some time and only recently ran into it
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218 [01:53:54] <naptastic> apt seems to just be smarter in times like these, and dpkg's database just doesn't seem to get corrupted so much...
219 [01:54:54] <Emil> Yeah, apt is better
220 [01:55:11] <Emil> Too bad apt-get comes out of the fucking spine already :D
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233 [02:01:29] <petn-randall> naptastic: This happened on which release?
234 [02:01:47] <naptastic> petn-randall, Sid. So, nothing to file a bug report over.
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236 [02:02:28] <petn-randall> naptastic: Ah, I see. For the future, there's also #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (other network), where all the testing/unstable users hang out.
237 [02:02:32] <naptastic> The systemd double-free worries me a little, but idk... this is old hardware and might be flaky, or it might be something weird with this system (it has been traumatized recently)
238 [02:02:40] <naptastic> oh that's good to know
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241 [02:03:04] <naptastic> I wish everyone were on one network... it's annoying having to lurk so many different places.
242 [02:03:16] <petn-randall> !why oftc
243 [02:03:24] * petn-randall pokes dpkg.
244 [02:03:31] <naptastic> lol
245 [02:03:44] <naptastic> it's no big deal--I'll just remember to find that channel next time I need help.
246 [02:03:44] <missmbob> replaced-url
247 [02:03:51] <petn-randall> Oh wait, it was
248 [02:03:54] <petn-randall> !oftc move
249 [02:03:55] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see replaced-url
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385 [03:25:07] <awal1> I remember when using adobe flash in youtube, for example, my machine temp. is always over 55º C. Now with html5, temp. is stable, around 40/40º C. Why this big difference?
386 [03:25:21] <awal1> not debian related, sorry :P
387 [03:25:43] <awal1> 40/45 ^
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389 [03:27:59] <socomm> awal1: flash uses more resources
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392 [03:29:29] <awal1> socomm: yes, ok. anything more apart that? :P
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394 [03:29:57] <missmbob> not really. just flash sucks.
395 [03:30:52] <socomm> awal1: Software uses more resource. CPU/GPU starts working harder. Temperature goes up.
396 [03:31:42] <awal1> missmbob: :)
397 [03:32:39] <awal1> socomm: ok, so basically ressources related. ok
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400 [03:34:00] <socomm> awal1: Yup!
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412 [03:41:32] <Hello71> awal1: browser can use hardware decoding in HTML5 mode. for flash it requires VDPAU and is not very stable on Linux (crashes or even uses *more* power on some machines)
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415 [03:43:26] <awal1> Hello71: hardware decoding?
416 [03:43:42] <Hello71> !g hardware video decoding
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419 [03:44:30] <awal1> ok, got it, googling
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613 [06:25:04] <erdave> samba is listening on port 445 and 139 but I can't connect
614 [06:26:04] <erdave> i can access all other services in my server (mysql, http, ssh, other stuff), but not samba.
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620 [06:27:54] <erdave> -A INPUT -i wlan0 -m comment --comment "FREE NAT TRAFFIC" -j ACCEPT
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622 [06:28:06] <erdave> that's my firewall rule
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637 [06:39:24] <nick[0]> Hi! I'm trying to set up an LXC container to connect to a VPN and provide services to both VPN connected hosts and hosts on the physical lan. What network config should I be using?
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786 [08:22:50] <shortCircuit__> hi
787 [08:23:04] <shortCircuit__> is there no easy way to get the connected network interface? I have to get all devices and then possibly loop and check the SIOCGIFFLAGS with ioctl
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804 [08:29:12] <antosamalona> Is mysql-workbench deleted from debian testing repo?
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810 [08:31:54] <th0r> !next
811 [08:31:54] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
812 [08:32:12] <th0r> antosamalona, testing is, I think, handled in #debian-next
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815 [08:32:58] <antosamalona> th0r: I'm sorry
816 [08:33:26] <th0r> no problem...just you won't find many testing 'experts' here <smile>
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919 [09:25:16] <tdn> Are there any alternatives to "rear" (Relax and Recover) that are included in Debian packages?
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923 [09:27:29] <themill> You might need to explain wtf "rear" is
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943 [09:34:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> relax… and recover
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945 [09:35:46] <CutMeOwnThroat> apparently disaster recovery
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949 [09:35:59] <g00se1> nss_util.cc is mentioned in stderr when i try to run chromium-browser in wheezy, yet i can't find that file in any apt-file search. Why would i not be able to do so?
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951 [09:36:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> now who's the butt of the joke…
952 [09:36:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> g00se1, because it's a source file
953 [09:37:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> you'd have to look in the source package of chromium
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956 [09:38:14] <CutMeOwnThroat> laters
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960 [09:40:36] <foetus> g00se1, try 'apt-get -f install'
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962 [09:41:11] <g00se1> CutMeOwnThroat: If it's in the source of chromium then surely it would be found by apt-file?
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969 [09:42:48] <g00se1> foetus: Why so ?- it looks like a bug replaced-url
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971 [09:44:44] <themill> g00se1: apt-file indexes binary packages not source packages (by default)
972 [09:44:47] <gry> I would like to run an android emulator on debian,please tell which free package to try
973 [09:45:29] <themill> g00se1: it seems to be in the chromium-browser source package
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975 [09:47:30] <foetus> g00se1: apt-get -f install is only installing the essentially needed packages for google-chrome, nothing else.
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978 [09:48:11] <g00se1> Really. Hmm, i'm glad i found out that gotcha. I thought it indexed everything in the repos
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980 [09:48:24] <foetus> *chromium-browser
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982 [09:49:04] <g00se1> foetus: Not a deps problem - it's a bug.
983 [09:49:20] * g00se1 thinks, anyway
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985 [09:49:28] <themill> g00se1: well source packages aren't really "in the repos" in that way. You can tell apt-file that "source" is the architecture you want to use.
986 [09:49:40] <foetus> g00se1: ok.
987 [09:49:41] <themill> g00se1: as I said the other day, noone is going to fix bugs in chromium in wheezy.
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993 [09:51:12] <g00se1> themill: Yes. I'll probably go to jessie soon
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998 [09:53:06] <g00se1> themill: something like apt-file -a source ... ?
999 [09:53:48] <themill> yes
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1003 [09:54:41] <g00se1> Thanks - i'll give it a go
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1007 [09:55:50] <eynix> Hi
1008 [09:55:54] <Tomte1> hi
1009 [09:56:05] <eynix> I'm a noob, and I block my debian :'(
1010 [09:56:25] <Spiffy> You, what?
1011 [09:56:38] <eynix> apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing, jessie in source.list, lsb-release say debian version is 7
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1013 [09:57:50] <LargePig> done apt-get update?
1014 [09:57:54] <Spiffy> You remembered to apt-get update update?
1015 [09:58:00] <Spiffy> -update
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1017 [09:58:04] <eynix> y
1018 [09:58:11] <eynix> update upgrade
1019 [09:58:29] <eynix> even clean autoclean and autoremove
1020 [09:58:32] <eynix> just in case
1021 [09:58:34] <Spiffy> Have you rebooted?
1022 [09:58:37] <eynix> y
1023 [09:58:46] <eynix> it's a dedicated serv btw
1024 [09:59:03] <eynix> (and sry for my eng :/)
1025 [09:59:07] <themill> the output of "apt-cache policy" in a pastebin would be a good start
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1030 [10:00:31] <eynix> replaced-url
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1039 [10:05:09] <r4co0n> Hi. I just installed a package (libreoffice-l10n-de) and noticed only afterwards that I want the packages suggested by it as well. 'apt install --install-suggests packagename' now refuses to do anything, is there something except of '--reinstall' to install suggests after installing the package?
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1055 [10:12:05] <eynix> themill: if you have some time later, I've past the apt-cache policy
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1067 [10:16:03] <bazhang> thanks
1068 [10:16:07] <eynix> ty
1069 [10:17:08] <themill> eynix: Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy apt libc6 dpkg perl lsb-release"?
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1075 [10:18:21] <eynix> themill: replaced-url
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1080 [10:19:18] <themill> eynix: that looks just fine to me
1081 [10:19:35] <eynix> :'(
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1083 [10:19:45] <eynix> I don't want to backup, reinstall and restore
1084 [10:19:56] <themill> what's actually wrong?
1085 [10:20:20] <eynix> got to upgrade a specifi package but it's Jessie specific
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1087 [10:20:52] <themill> ?
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1089 [10:21:42] <eynix> sorry for my english : I'm using Yunohost, the 2.4 is out, I want to upgrade. But the 2.4 is Jessie only and apparently I'm not running a Jessie
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1091 [10:21:55] <eynix> and I can't figure out how to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie
1092 [10:22:19] <themill> you're running jessie
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1094 [10:22:25] <eynix> well to me I'm on jessie (regarding source.list)
1095 [10:22:34] <eynix> but lsb-release disagree
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1100 [10:25:24] <themill> Can you pastebin "lsb_release -a"?
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1105 [10:26:21] <eynix> replaced-url
1106 [10:26:28] <eynix> seems legit x)
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1109 [10:26:49] <eynix> Description Jessie 8.6, Version: 7
1110 [10:26:50] <eynix> Ok.
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1113 [10:27:55] <eynix> I'll look for a way to force an update on lsb_release or something..
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1116 [10:29:03] * themill sees no "Version" output from lsb_release
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1119 [10:30:46] <unborn> eynix: mine one looks a bit different replaced-url
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1122 [10:31:24] <eynix> unborn: that's the issue ^^'
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1126 [10:32:31] <eynix> I manually edited lsb-release, and 'im rebooting
1127 [10:32:35] <eynix> we'll see
1128 [10:32:43] <eynix> thank you
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1165 [10:58:59] <Trila_> hi
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1167 [11:00:10] <Trila_> does anyone how can I create a deb package from a pip python package? I usually use stdeb but for a specifica pip package I'm getting some errors. Do you know any other tools/method ? thank you
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1179 [11:07:28] <babilen> Trila_: Ask in #debian-python on irc.oftc.net
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1191 [11:17:10] <Trila_> babilen: thank you
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1201 [11:21:22] <ctx144k> hi all
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1204 [11:21:51] <ghormoon> hi, any idea why might this be happening? if I let it run longer, it will just get dhcpoffers and ask for new ... replaced-url
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1206 [11:22:44] <noobi> hi there ive been learning linux and i am trying to sort ports from the services replaced-url
1207 [11:22:48] <ctx144k> is there any easy way to define an firewall in whitelisting conzept for outgoing applications? i want rules like "firefox" can be out, apt-get too, but maybe nvidia.driver not
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1209 [11:23:09] <ctx144k> > replaced-url
1210 [11:23:33] <noobi> ctx144k: if you go with whitelist you can define all that can go out the rest is automatcly on the blacklist
1211 [11:23:37] <noobi> afaik
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1213 [11:24:17] <ctx144k> noobi - but how to define iptables rules for allow an application?
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1216 [11:24:28] <ctx144k> i see only ports/ipadresses i can define
1217 [11:24:54] <toha1> And there it goes again changing my god damn name without asking
1218 [11:25:01] <toha1> fucking piece of shit weechat
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1222 [11:25:47] <Mahe> ctx144k: replaced-url
1223 [11:26:00] <noobi> ctx144k: aww apps i dont know sorry
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1225 [11:26:54] <Mahe> ctx144k: but it's tricky, you'd have to make sure that the nvidia-driver module you wanna block is executed as a specific user or group
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1231 [11:29:18] <ctx144k> yes i see - i wld need to have an own user/group for nvidia...
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1233 [11:30:27] <ctx144k> i hate all this closed src telemtry bullshit
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1235 [11:31:08] <gry> hi, how do i install android simulator under debian?
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1240 [11:33:16] <ctx144k> thnx for informations...
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1273 [11:53:36] <NoCode> "warning: connect to Milter service inet:127.0.0.1:8891: Connection refused" -- Is this normal? Tried Google, diagnosing the issue, messed around with some settings and still can't seem to fix it. Though, I can send and retrieve email.
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1275 [11:54:05] <JPT> looks like a milter service is not online
1276 [11:54:07] <bhuddah> NoCode: which service are you expecting to run on 8891? investigate your mail server config...
1277 [11:54:40] <JPT> google results suggest it may be a dkim-milter
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1279 [11:55:25] <NoCode> Yes
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1314 [12:18:19] <JyZyXEL> the latest mysql upgrade on debian jessie broke Akonadi
1315 [12:18:22] <ChrisH> Anyone else observing freshclam update issues? At least one of my installations fails with connection refused/connection timeouts
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1318 [12:19:23] <JyZyXEL> Upgrade: mysql-server-core-5.5:amd64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), mysql-common:amd64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), libmysqlclient18:a md64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1)
1319 [12:19:35] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: bugreport
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1321 [12:19:38] <JyZyXEL> after this upgrade i rebooted and Akonadi would not start anymore
1322 [12:19:44] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: have you used kde backport?
1323 [12:19:49] <JyZyXEL> no
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1325 [12:20:01] <JyZyXEL> [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv. Please make sure that directory exists and is accessible by MySQL Server. Supplied value : /var/lib/mysql-files
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1327 [12:20:45] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: bugreport & replaced-url
1328 [12:21:44] <gebruiker> replaced-url
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1333 [12:22:47] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: perhaps i should just try somehow reverting the botched mysql upgrade?
1334 [12:23:07] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: that also seems like a reasonable option
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1336 [12:23:28] <JyZyXEL> but how does one revert them?
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1340 [12:25:44] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: apt-get install «pkg»=«version»
1341 [12:25:51] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: adding "secure_file_priv=" to ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf
1342 [12:25:56] <JyZyXEL> made it work again
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1345 [12:26:32] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: great! Do not forget to bug report so the maintainer can fix this asap
1346 [12:26:46] <JyZyXEL> what package would you even file the bug report against
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1349 [12:28:29] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: akonadi
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1356 [12:34:23] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: Severity?
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1359 [12:37:14] <JyZyXEL> ill go with important
1360 [12:37:15] <mavhq> replaced-url
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1363 [12:40:50] <gebruiker> mavhq: yeah configure fontconfig not to use arial, courier new etc..
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1365 [12:41:18] <gebruiker> mavhq: replaced-url
1366 [12:41:45] <gebruiker> mavhq: also fontconfig infinality would likely help
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1412 [13:02:40] <mavhq> gebruiker: thanks, I ended up copying replaced-url
1413 [13:03:12] <Percevan> Hello, i have a minimal Debian install with xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and i have a error on startup. replaced-url
1414 [13:04:04] <gebruiker> mavhq: interesting solution, curious to see the difference. Can you screenshot it?
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1555 [14:07:56] <ByteStorm> guys i want to setup a tor connected proxy in my pidgin,starting today
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1557 [14:08:21] <ByteStorm> but it redirects me to the gnome proxy setup
1558 [14:08:41] <ByteStorm> can you tell me how to setup gnome proxy so tht it uses tor?
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1567 [14:12:57] <ByteStorm> guys???
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1572 [14:16:24] <noqnio1> did you select the proper port?
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1576 [14:16:37] <noqnio1> also, i guess this is not the right channel
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1581 [14:18:24] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: they just closed to bug report claiming that backports are not supported
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1588 [14:21:12] <JyZyXEL> oh finally, somebody else noticed that it wasn't a backport but a security upgrade
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1597 [14:23:54] <john_rambo> How do I replace WICD with Network Manager ? Is there a guide ?
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1600 [14:24:46] <noqnio1> there is
1601 [14:24:50] <noqnio1> it is like, the first google result
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1607 [14:25:30] <john_rambo> noqnio1: I am getting results about the opposite
1608 [14:25:46] <john_rambo> noqnio1: THat is how to replace NM with WICD
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1610 [14:26:32] <noqnio1> replaced-url
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1619 [14:29:35] <unborn> ByteStorm: if you have tor installed on your system its quiet easy
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1624 [14:30:57] <erdave> my samba is not working
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1626 [14:31:45] <noqnio1> mine is
1627 [14:31:56] <erdave> though i checked that is running and listening with netstat, and it is! but i can't browse.
1628 [14:31:57] <erdave> lol
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1631 [14:32:53] <erdave> it shows nothing with the smbtree util.
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1644 [14:39:24] <erdave> uhm... weird... it was my client firewall...
1645 [14:39:44] <erdave> what ports should i unlock as a client for using samba?
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1648 [14:40:18] <noqnio1> 445 i guess?
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1655 [14:42:42] <erdave> noqnio1: but thats an input port for the server. (i believe)
1656 [14:43:12] <erdave> i'll research it... now i'm curious...
1657 [14:43:25] <noqnio1> maybe you are right, google also lists 139 as a candidate
1658 [14:43:27] <noqnio1> im not sure
1659 [14:43:28] <unborn> 445 tcp
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1663 [14:44:07] <unborn> samba port ^^^
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1665 [14:45:57] <ceegee> is a gateway required for preseeding to fetch packages or will a http proxy work too?
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1672 [14:48:23] <petn-randall> ceegee: I'm guessing http_proxy will work, but I'd just try it and see.
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1678 [14:49:27] <ceegee> petn-randall: its just a proof of concept right now, actually there is no infrastructure to try and error :-)
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1684 [14:51:37] <erdave> i believe its something like the ftp "active" mode, im bounded through the port 60893
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1686 [14:52:18] <erdave> but that should be an "output port" dunno why my firewall its blocking it...
1687 [14:53:14] <toruvinn> sigh. this is a bit less related to Debian I guess, but it does happen on Debian too. ;-P anyone any idea why mdraid (raid1) check/repair doesn't overwrite unreadable sectors on the devices? after trying out various things, i still have 2 pending sectors according to SMART.
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1689 [14:53:37] <toruvinn> unless those WDs have really, REALLY crappy firmware, which isn't that unlikely. :-<
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1696 [14:55:45] <mapm> hello
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1698 [14:56:21] <mapm> I am trying to install a debian 8.6 jessie with encrypted LVM but the option is not listed, why does this happen?
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1707 [14:58:07] <mapm> the computer is a Toshiba Satellite P30W-B-108
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1714 [15:00:04] <mapm> alright I think the issue was that I accepted the option "force UEFI boot" before, now I didn't and it listed the option
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1815 [15:41:33] <teclo-> afternoon, I just installed the "base system" and I'd like to use xfce as Desktop Environment. I guess I need to do: aptitude install task-xfce-desktop ?
1816 [15:42:18] <pencilandpaper> No, you want: aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
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1818 [15:42:25] <pencilandpaper> teclo-: ^
1819 [15:42:44] <teclo-> pencilandpaper: ah ok...
1820 [15:42:53] <pencilandpaper> :)
1821 [15:42:55] <teclo-> uhh what's in the goodies ?
1822 [15:43:03] <teclo-> useful things or games and so on ?
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1828 [15:44:06] <n4dir> rather useful than games, though i neverr installed them. They don't seem to be useful for everyone
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1832 [15:44:36] <pencilandpaper> Extra panel plugins that you may want to use, xfce's native media player, the native text editor, etc teclo- .
1833 [15:44:39] <n4dir> tastk-desktop will come with lots of apps, some or lots of them you won't need. install xfce4 might be the better option
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1836 [15:45:13] <teclo-> pencilandpaper: sounds pretty good, I'll do that :)
1837 [15:45:20] <pencilandpaper> Cool teclo- . :)
1838 [15:45:21] <n4dir> uh, well, no, i don't think that xfce4-goodies add such, but apt-cache show might show it.
1839 [15:45:33] <pencilandpaper> It does n4dir .
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1844 [15:46:34] <n4dir> i can't find that here: replaced-url
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1847 [15:47:14] <n4dir> oh, yup, i seem to have missed them.
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1850 [15:47:35] <n4dir> my fault.
1851 [15:48:06] <Ox0k> Helo, Suse linux has ads that makes "live patch" (replaced-url
1852 [15:48:08] <Ox0k> ?
1853 [15:48:15] <pencilandpaper> replaced-url
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1857 [15:49:09] <pencilandpaper> replaced-url
1858 [15:49:10] <n4dir> yes, yes, that's where i've looked. You were right. I didn't install them for years and should have said nothing.
1859 [15:49:22] <pencilandpaper> Its ok, no worries. :)
1860 [15:49:35] <pencilandpaper> I install it by default now with xfce4.
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1862 [15:50:08] <n4dir> yeah, many like it to enhance xfce4.
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1920 [16:15:17] <Joost> can someone briefly summarize the difference between libusb and libusb-1.0?
1921 [16:15:54] <Joost> they seem to be quite different beasts
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1945 [16:22:52] <petn-randall> Joost: There exist several package versions of libusb. They're just different, incompatible API versions. If you want to program against it, just pick the one with the highest version number.
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1947 [16:23:13] <petn-randall> (or pick the one for the target OS you want to support)
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1950 [16:23:48] <Joost> petn-randall: ok, sounds reasonable
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2164 [17:03:05] <kion> Every time I boot I have to open the Nvidia X-server settings and re apply my settings, is there a way to have Debian do that automaticlly at boot?
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2177 [17:08:39] <baraba> how do you re apply your settings?
2178 [17:08:48] <baraba> kion
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2181 [17:10:00] <kion> baraba, just opening the Nvidia x server settings does re apply my settings...
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2187 [17:10:38] <baraba> quick googling kion: replaced-url
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2197 [17:13:57] <vektorweg1> hello, i updated kernel and X drivers, but now mouse acceleration settings for my mouse don't work anymore. when i use e.g. xset the settings are only applied to the touchpad. one of the packages installed was xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.9.1-1. i tested 1.9.1-1+b1 without any effect. i'm running jessie. some hints to fix this?
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2210 [17:18:01] <kion> baraba, yes I did find that page before but it didn't work for me
2211 [17:18:12] <kion> baraba, thanks anyways
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2223 [17:23:47] <xVim> Hi. I am running Debian Jessie with GNOME and installed gnome-shell-pomodoro via aptitude. When I try to start this program a process is started (as I can tell via ps -aux), but nothing else happens - no window appears and no error message is printed out. How can I figure out why this program is not working?
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2226 [17:24:16] <xVim> I have gnome-shell-extensions installed
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2255 [17:41:33] <Howdy> can anybody shed some insight on mouse freezing in Windows 10 guest ?
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2259 [17:42:05] <han-solo> windows?
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2261 [17:42:19] <han-solo> ask in #windows, i guess
2262 [17:42:22] <unborn> :D
2263 [17:42:37] <Howdy> Running Debian 8 & running windows 10 using Xen
2264 [17:42:55] <unborn> I do only virtualbox.. sorry
2265 [17:42:57] <petn-randall> Howdy: Does the mouse work fine outside of the guest window?
2266 [17:42:58] <Howdy> mouse if freezing but keyboard is working
2267 [17:43:00] <Howdy> after a while
2268 [17:43:05] <Howdy> yes
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2273 [17:43:31] <petn-randall> Howdy: How does it freeze? Does it just turn invisible, or is it stuck?
2274 [17:43:39] <Howdy> petn-randall: Yes, I can ctrl - alt & move out of guest & mouse is fine
2275 [17:44:03] <Howdy> well this time I noticed it was on screen just not moving the arrow
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2278 [17:44:18] <petn-randall> Howdy: When it freezes, can you right click to open the context menu?
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2280 [17:44:29] <SwedeMike> Howdy: if there is a #xen channel, might make sense to ask there.
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2282 [17:44:55] <Howdy> SwedeMike: I will try there too
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2286 [17:45:22] <Howdy> Petn-randall: not sure what you mean by context menu
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2288 [17:45:45] <Howdy> its usually frozen on some app window
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2290 [17:45:51] <Howdy> Or I don't even see it
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2293 [17:46:22] <petn-randall> Howdy: If you right click on the desktop, a menu pops up. I want to find out if the guest doesn't get any input events from the mouse, or if it is just a cosmetic issue (the mouse pointer not being drawn correctly).
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2295 [17:46:28] <Howdy> don't think it has frozen on windows background where I can right click it
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2303 [17:47:39] <Howdy> not cosmetic for sure since I move the mouse & right click left click everywhere
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2309 [17:48:05] <Howdy> while this is happening the keyboard is still working & guest vm is responding
2310 [17:48:17] <Howdy> I exit from the Vinrage & go back in & the mouse is still stuck
2311 [17:48:38] <Howdy> rebooting the guest fixes it but this is really annoying
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2320 [17:51:37] <petn-randall> Howdy: I use kvm myself, so I'm stuck from here on. Maybe someone else can help you any further.
2321 [17:52:21] <Howdy> is KVM better then Xen?
2322 [17:52:34] <Howdy> I want to eventually use this for Gaming as well
2323 [17:52:40] <Howdy> with pci pass thru
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2327 [17:53:48] <Howdy> i have not played bf4 in months leading to more refreshments type of hang outs on the weekend
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2329 [17:53:55] <Howdy> I need my BF4
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2340 [17:57:58] <mark4> what version of the linux kernel does the latest debian live dvd use?
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2344 [17:58:51] <jelly> mark4: something around 3.16.36
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2347 [17:59:32] <mark4> utterly useless to me. it wont boot my primary laptop
2348 [17:59:39] <mark4> scratch debian off the list :/
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2350 [18:00:09] <petn-randall> !next
2351 [18:00:10] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2354 [18:01:18] <Howdy> so do you guys think KVM is more stable then XEN?
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2359 [18:02:49] <mark4> ok so... how difficult would it be to install debian when booting to some OTHER distros live dvd?
2360 [18:02:51] <jelly> petn-randall: he's back!
2361 [18:03:03] <mark4> the arch linux live dvd is a 4.7 kernel
2362 [18:03:26] <jhutchins> Howdy: It's really a matter of what works best for you, there is no universal answer or there wouldn't be choices.
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2364 [18:03:53] <jelly> mark4: that's covered in the install guide, "debootstrap" method
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2367 [18:04:18] <jhutchins> Howdy: replaced-url
2368 [18:04:21] <TomTomTosch> replaced-url
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2370 [18:04:36] <jelly> !ig
2371 [18:04:36] <dpkg> The Installation Guide for Debian 8 "Jessie" can be found at replaced-url
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2373 [18:05:06] <mark4> jelly ty. its been over 10 years since i used debian lol. im a dedicated gentoo user but i cannot get my desktop up and running on my primary laptop in gentoo because of the hybrid graphcs and an ultra new nvidia card (at least 2 years old you know)
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2378 [18:05:53] <jelly> mark4: if your hardware requires a later kernel, there's one in
2379 [18:05:56] <jelly> !bdo
2380 [18:05:56] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
2381 [18:06:07] <jelly> !bdo kernel
2382 [18:06:07] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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2384 [18:06:28] <Howdy> Jhutchins:Thanks, I am new to linux & just saw a guide for xen so I used xen replaced-url
2385 [18:06:43] <jelly> mark4: for further clues, ask the bot on your own, eg: /msg dpkg jessie backports
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2387 [18:06:54] <mark4> jelly ty
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2389 [18:07:30] <mark4> does debians install dvd boot to desktop or console?
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2391 [18:07:56] <jhutchins> mark4: Depends on which image and what options you choose.
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2393 [18:08:01] <jelly> it can do both, damn if I remember what's the default
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2396 [18:08:28] <jhutchins> jelly: iirc it's usually non-X graphics.
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2398 [18:08:30] <mark4> aha kk. not much point in installing "distribution X" if it cannot prove up front that it will work lol
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2403 [18:09:04] <jhutchins> mark4: Very few of the pure installers use X. Live image installers will.
2404 [18:09:15] <jelly> eh, any distro can be made to work IF there are drivers for linux somewhere
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2414 [18:11:12] <mark4> jelly i have not been able to get gentoo working on my primary laptop in about 8 months. i can revert to an 8 month old kernel version and 8 month old nvidia version but i dont want to be locked in the stone age
2415 [18:11:18] <mark4> so im experimenting
2416 [18:11:19] <zykotick9> anyone happen to know what a (!) means in htop after uptime? example: Uptime: 163 days(!), 22:15:39 - i don't see any mention of it in the man page
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2424 [18:14:14] <Stadtpirat> Say, in my early days I used to start/stop services by "/etc/init.d/<service> start/stop". Then I learned about "service <service> start/stop" which should be just a wrapper for that afaik. Am I correct that "systemctl start/stop <service>" is now the way to go?
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2427 [18:15:07] <zykotick9> Stadtpirat: sidenote, not everything is a systemd service yet... so a mix is probably required
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2438 [18:16:52] <Stadtpirat> Apart from the technology behind it, I really wished they'd choose a command easier to type than systemctl, ugh ^^
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2449 [18:18:33] <Kobaz> hey, anyone have any tips on installing hplip without having to install systemd that it has as a dependency?
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2461 [18:22:35] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: it's an easter egg that shows after 100 days of uptime.
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2463 [18:23:10] <i11ega1Code> tzdate sets wrong time
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2465 [18:23:46] <i11ega1Code> date shows: Tue Nov 8 01:23:39 Netherlands 2016
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2474 [18:26:07] <samba35> i am planning to setup a mail server for my own use (not as hillary :) ) for that what i will require ?
2475 [18:26:14] <i11ega1Code> anyone here?
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2481 [18:27:33] <jelly> i11ega1Code: which debian release is that? What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say?
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2483 [18:27:45] <zykotick9> TomTomTosch: thanks.
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2486 [18:28:02] <TomTomTosch> Stadtpirat: well, you can just set an alias if it bothers you.
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2489 [18:28:35] <i11ega1Code> hello jelly, i just did date --set which worked
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2491 [18:28:52] <jelly> i11ega1Code: that doesn't mean you fixed it, tho.
2492 [18:29:04] <TomTomTosch> Stadtpirat: and yes, everything in jessie should work with systemd.
2493 [18:29:40] <Stadtpirat> nice thx
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2497 [18:30:18] <jelly> samba35: 3-6 months of patience, unless you already know a ton of stuff about mail
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2499 [18:30:42] <IbHnKnkcTVnwzknZ> replaced-url
2500 [18:30:42] <samba35> ic
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2503 [18:31:17] * jelly tries to convince erryone not to selfhost mail services
2504 [18:31:19] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: if it interests you, here is the relevant piece of code (line 41) replaced-url
2505 [18:31:33] <Howdy> Why we even talking bout Billary n Trump
2506 [18:31:36] <Howdy> there was Johnson
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2508 [18:31:47] <jelly> Howdy: ignore the spam, please
2509 [18:31:57] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: if days > 100 it sets a (!) behind days, nothing more going on.
2510 [18:31:58] <Howdy> Tru
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2525 [18:37:20] <i11ega1Code> jelly how do i fix it?
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2537 [18:40:47] <gebruiker> i11ega1Code: you throw some women and let them fight in the jelly
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2539 [18:41:04] <i11ega1Code> lol
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2544 [18:42:01] <kareelee> guys what's an alternative to iptables ?
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2553 [18:43:06] <TomTomTosch> ferm is a frontend for iptables that i sometimes like to use.
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2555 [18:43:11] <gebruiker> kareelee: linux kernel has only iptables but i there are some side projects like dummynet, a linux port of the bsd firewall
2556 [18:43:29] <kareelee> PF ?
2557 [18:43:47] <gebruiker> replaced-url
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2562 [18:44:57] <kareelee> gebruiker: I was reading a lot that iptables is old and may be replaced in the near future
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2565 [18:45:16] <kareelee> I don't say i believe them, I just ask to see what choices you have
2566 [18:45:25] <kareelee> I've been using openBSD and PF for a long time
2567 [18:45:43] <kareelee> but I am setting up a RPI and I want to setup a firewall there :)
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2569 [18:46:17] <gebruiker> I am not sure if dummynet is at a mature stage kareelee
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2571 [18:46:57] <jhutchins> kareelee: Some of IP tables is old because it already addressed necessary things years ago, and those things haven't changed. Other parts are newer and deal with newer things.
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2573 [18:47:27] <jhutchins> kareelee: iptables is what you should use; there are front ends that can make it easier to configure, but you can also just write the rules in a script.
2574 [18:47:30] <kareelee> jhutchins: so If you want to invest in building a device you'd use iptables ?
2575 [18:47:31] <rattking> kareelee: you might be thinking of nftables
2576 [18:47:52] <kareelee> sure, rules in a file
2577 [18:47:56] <jhutchins> kareelee: If you're running linux, iptables is what does the job.
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2579 [18:48:01] <kareelee> thank you
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2585 [18:49:55] <kion> maybe we will start using more ip6tables in the near future... but it works exactly the same
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2591 [18:52:14] <jelly> i11ega1Code: first you show the output of that one command, so someone here can see if your clock is actually correct now or not
2592 [18:52:32] <jelly> i11ega1Code: which debian release is that? What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say?
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2602 [18:59:30] <r3m> ,v bitlbee
2603 [18:59:47] <judd> Package: bitlbee on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.0.5-1.2; jessie: 3.2.2-2+b1; stretch: 3.4.2-1.1; sid: 3.4.2-1.1
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2634 [19:10:34] <Meerkat> Videos in VLC is of garbage quality. I think it is because I updated my drivers unless there is a new known bug around.
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2640 [19:11:34] <mtn> Meerkat: which version of debian and how did you update your drivers?
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2642 [19:13:10] <Meerkat> I'm on Debian 8. nvidia drivers 352 to 367. I removed old drivers by purging their packages and installed nvidia-driver from jessie-backports.
2643 [19:13:37] <Meerkat> So far I can only see that VLC videos were affected. Netflix and games are flawless.
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2648 [19:14:44] <i11ega1Code> jelly: after i set it manually by date --set it says this: Mon Nov 7 19:14:08 UTC 2016
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2651 [19:14:57] <mtn> Meerkat: if you go back to the older driver, does it work fine?
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2655 [19:15:16] <Meerkat> I'm curious as to how.
2656 [19:15:21] <Meerkat> I'd like to try it.
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2658 [19:15:59] <mtn> Meerkat: just reverse what you did before
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2665 [19:18:12] <Meerkat> mtn, the old driver version doesn't seem to be available on jessie-backports anymore.
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2667 [19:18:32] <mtn> Meerkat: is that where you got it? not from the standard repos?
2668 [19:18:47] <Meerkat> yes
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2670 [19:19:14] <Meerkat> the standard repo only has version 340 which was too old for some game I played before. I'd rather not go back that far.
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2680 [19:22:41] <mtn> Meerkat: I don't know much about nvidia, but can you adjust the card settings?
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2683 [19:23:12] <jhutchins> !snapshot
2684 [19:23:12] <dpkg> replaced-url
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2696 [19:26:26] <Phen> Hey guys. I screwed up big time, and I need to boot debian off of a usb stick through grub. I've done some googling, and the instructions i've found are for booting the installation image, which works fine. I need to boot an actual working debian image though, how would i go about doing that?
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2698 [19:26:41] <Kobaz> Phen: knoppix
2699 [19:26:50] <nkuttler> Phen: supergrub
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2701 [19:27:15] <jhutchins> Phen: Get a live image.
2702 [19:27:17] <jhutchins> !live
2703 [19:27:17] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from replaced-url
2704 [19:27:27] <Phen> jhutchins did that already
2705 [19:27:31] <Phen> replaced-url
2706 [19:27:45] <rudi_s> !grml
2707 [19:27:45] <dpkg> grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. replaced-url
2708 [19:27:46] <Phen> I worked off of this guide, but i pointed grub to the live vmlinuz and the live initrd
2709 [19:27:56] <jelly> Phen: where do you have grub installed, on the same usb stick or some other disk?
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2711 [19:28:06] <Phen> on the HDD on my computer
2712 [19:28:26] <jhutchins> Phen: Does your bios not boot from USB?
2713 [19:28:28] <rozie> Phen: why do you need to use grub to boot from usb?
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2715 [19:28:54] <Phen> because my computer boots into grub immidiately after booting into the USB
2716 [19:29:07] <Phen> and i cant change the boot order because i, uh, forgot the BIOS supervisor password
2717 [19:29:08] <jelly> Phen: you should be able to open a grub editor or command line and fix the devices and paths
2718 [19:29:33] <nkuttler> Phen: check your manual for how to reset the board
2719 [19:29:54] <Phen> I know how to, i just need to pop out the coin battery on my mobo for a few minutes
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2721 [19:30:06] <Phen> but will that destroy my boot setup?
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2723 [19:30:26] <rozie> that will reset password
2724 [19:30:28] <nkuttler> Phen: you boot from the disk, not the board
2725 [19:30:30] <jelly> that will destroy any bios settings
2726 [19:30:48] <nkuttler> so, depending on what boot setup means, it might
2727 [19:31:19] <Phen> Ok, forget about the USB for a second, lets say I reset my mobo, and start my computer, will everything still boot into grub?
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2729 [19:31:24] <rozie> still, many bioses have separate key to change boot order
2730 [19:31:37] <rozie> not sure if admin pass is needed there
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2732 [19:31:52] <flr> Hey
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2735 [19:32:13] <rozie> Phen: that doesn't matter. you will be able to change the boot order then...
2736 [19:32:21] <jelly> Phen: maybe, maybe not, but you'll probably be able to change the settings to boot off the right disk in case it doesn't boot the same grub from the same disk
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2738 [19:33:19] <Phen> i dont get why booting through grub doesnt work though
2739 [19:33:35] <Phen> Its a live image, it should be more or less self contained, right?
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2743 [19:33:54] <nkuttler> Phen: what is a live image?
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2745 [19:34:38] <flr> Hey guys, it'd be awesome if someone could help me, please. I think that I got a quite "simple" problem - the device isn't connecting to the wireless network automaticly ( replaced-url
2746 [19:34:41] <Phen> Isn't it just a debian installation that can be booted off of removable media?
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2749 [19:35:13] <nkuttler> Phen: the debian live image? yeah
2750 [19:35:29] <Phen> alright
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2752 [19:35:43] <Phen> so then how come pointing grub to the live vmlinuz and the live initrd
2753 [19:35:48] <Phen> and then running boot doesnt work
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2758 [19:36:17] <nkuttler> Phen: you shouldn't have to point the live image grub at anything, it can boot the image on it's own
2759 [19:36:29] <nkuttler> Phen: if that doesn't happen, it sounds like your image is corrupt
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2764 [19:37:01] <Phen> nkuttler its not booting from USB because my BIOS boot order is different and im not in a position to change it
2765 [19:37:16] <nkuttler> Phen: so why do we talk about this live image at all?
2766 [19:37:17] <Phen> so I more or less need to go through grub for now, but my original question is why doesnt it owkr
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2768 [19:37:52] <Phen> Because the debian install on my hdd is destroyed
2769 [19:37:55] <nkuttler> oh wait, you want to boot the live image with the grub on your hd, got it
2770 [19:38:01] <Phen> yes
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2773 [19:38:26] <nkuttler> anyway, just reset the board
2774 [19:38:38] <Phen> but wont that kill my grub setup?
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2776 [19:38:47] <nkuttler> Phen: no
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2779 [19:39:21] <Phen> so if i reset the board, and then reboot, my computer will boot into grub like normal?
2780 [19:39:36] <nkuttler> Phen: do you mean the grub on usb?
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2782 [19:39:53] <nkuttler> Phen: you said your disk is destroyed, nobody know what happens when you boot it
2783 [19:40:02] <Phen> its not the disk thats destroyed
2784 [19:40:36] <Phen> just the debian installation. I cant boot into it, but I think i can fix it if i can get another linux instance running, then mount that partition and run some stuff
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2794 [19:42:37] <Phen> but how do i boot debian installed on a flash drive through my hdd grub
2795 [19:43:29] <flr> so no one got any hint for me?
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2799 [19:44:05] <nkuttler> flr: i just use network-manager..
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2801 [19:44:21] <flr> commandline
2802 [19:44:39] <nkuttler> well, there is nmcli
2803 [19:44:44] <flr> but thx anyway
2804 [19:45:10] <Phen> does grml have aptitude?
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2807 [19:45:51] <jelly> Phen: yes, why do you ask about grml?
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2810 [19:46:13] <Phen> i need to boot a linux image off of my flash drive using the grub on my hdd
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2813 [19:46:40] <jelly> and where does grml fit?
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2815 [19:47:16] <Phen> it was suggested by several people here when i mentioned that the debian live image doesnt work when booted form the grub on my hdd
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2818 [19:48:12] <jelly> not sure how adding a _second_ usb device is going to help, but alright
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2820 [19:48:41] <Phen> there's only 1 usb device
2821 [19:48:52] <jelly> where would you put grml then
2822 [19:49:06] <Phen> on the usb device currently containing the debian live image
2823 [19:49:33] <jelly> where's your debian installation, then?!
2824 [19:49:40] <Phen> on the hard drive
2825 [19:49:54] <jelly> and you also have grub on the hard drive
2826 [19:50:09] <jelly> and grub boots up and can be worked with
2827 [19:50:20] <Phen> yup
2828 [19:50:39] <Phen> its just the debian installation thats boned
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2830 [19:50:54] <jelly> broken how?
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2835 [19:51:19] <Phen> I was hoping that I could save myself the embarassment, but i guess not. I rm -rf'd /etc
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2838 [19:51:38] <Phen> I was fiddling around with a rootfs for a beagle bone black and i got my /etc's mixed up
2839 [19:51:39] <jelly> and you don't have a backup?
2840 [19:51:44] <Phen> nope
2841 [19:52:02] <jelly> whoops
2842 [19:52:03] <nkuttler> ugh, just reinstall
2843 [19:52:05] <Phen> but apperently there's somehting that can recover deleted files off of ext4 filesystems
2844 [19:52:13] <greycat> ...
2845 [19:52:22] <greycat> Back up /home *now*, and then reinstall.
2846 [19:52:28] <jelly> Phen: nope, forget about that. Your other files are fine tho.
2847 [19:52:39] <Phen> /home is backed up
2848 [19:52:51] <noqnio1> Hey. I am running jessie with Nvidia prop. drivers from experimental. apt suggested to autoremove some packages and i did it without thinking, now an application needs libcudart6.5 but i can't install it, not from stable neither from experimental. Is is only a i386 package?
2849 [19:52:54] <Phen> First thing i did when i realized something went wrong
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2851 [19:53:03] <jelly> then fix your bios, boot off live media, and reinstall
2852 [19:53:19] <Phen> replaced-url
2853 [19:53:30] <nkuttler> ,v libcudart6.5
2854 [19:53:31] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64.
2855 [19:53:33] <Phen> can I reinstall without having to reinstall grub?
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2857 [19:53:46] <greycat> grub is like the LEAST of your problems
2858 [19:53:48] <noqnio1> Removing libcudart6.5:amd64 (6.5.19-3~bpo8+1) ...
2859 [19:53:49] <noqnio1> :(
2860 [19:53:49] <jelly> Phen: you will want to reinstall grub at some point
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2862 [19:54:07] <nkuttler> noqnio1: looks like it
2863 [19:54:11] <noqnio1> nkuttler: what do you mean
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2865 [19:54:16] <jelly> ,v libcudart6.5
2866 [19:54:17] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64.
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2868 [19:54:24] <nkuttler> noqnio1: replaced-url
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2870 [19:54:36] <noqnio1> oh.
2871 [19:54:45] <noqnio1> but im running the experimental drivers, how can it be in backports
2872 [19:55:03] <jelly> ,v libcudart7.5
2873 [19:55:05] <judd> Package: libcudart7.5 on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1
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2877 [19:55:24] * greycat is confused by this package that exists only in jessie-backports
2878 [19:55:33] <Phen> I'm not sure what to do if i have grub installed already. Can i just boot from a live image and go through the install process like normal?
2879 [19:55:44] <nkuttler> noqnio1: btw, don't mix stable + experimental..
2880 [19:55:47] <jelly> noqnio1: likely the packaging has changed in sid (and experimental) since
2881 [19:56:03] <nkuttler> Phen: fix your bios already
2882 [19:56:10] <noqnio1> nkuttler: i know it is not advised but some times it is the only option!
2883 [19:56:17] <noqnio1> i tried to install it from bp now and still it cant find it
2884 [19:56:19] <jelly> nkuttler: nvidia drivers are supposed to be a tiny exception to that rule. The maintainers try to take care they're installable even on stable.
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2886 [19:56:29] <nkuttler> jelly: i see
2887 [19:56:39] <jelly> sometimes they miss things, apparently
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2889 [19:57:19] <noqnio1> i have non-free in backports on my sources.list, but still apt-get cant find it :s
2890 [19:57:28] <greycat> noqnio1: /lastlog judd
2891 [19:57:52] <jelly> noqnio1: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache search libcudart"
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2893 [19:58:18] <jelly> noqnio1: don't forget to run an "apt-get update" before
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2896 [19:59:57] <noqnio1> replaced-url
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2900 [20:00:25] <noqnio1> apt-get install -t jessie-backports libcudart6.5 <-- thats what i tried
2901 [20:01:01] <flr> nkuttler: thanks :)
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2914 [20:05:35] <noqnio1> i don't get it, how can packages.debian.org list it as in jessie-backports and apt cant find it
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2919 [20:06:46] <noqnio1> it also removed linvblas which i can't find either, does that mean my cuda is ruined?
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2926 [20:09:02] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do you see backports when you do an apt update?
2927 [20:09:07] <noqnio1> yes
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2929 [20:09:31] <noqnio1> Get:45 replaced-url
2930 [20:09:31] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do an apt search then, perhaps part of the version number is actually part of the package name.
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2932 [20:09:49] <noqnio1> root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-cache search libcudart*
2933 [20:09:49] <noqnio1> libcudart7.5 - NVIDIA CUDA Runtime Library
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2935 [20:10:04] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do you have main and contrib as well?
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2938 [20:10:12] <molavy> hi
2939 [20:10:12] <noqnio1> yes
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2941 [20:10:40] <molavy> i just installed debian on VPS, but on ping google.com can't connect any site
2942 [20:10:43] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Then I suppose it's possible your repo has a glitch.
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2944 [20:10:58] <jhutchins> noqnio1: You should be able to browser the repo and download it, or try another repo.
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2946 [20:11:44] <molavy> any idea?
2947 [20:11:45] <noqnio1> i changed from httpiredir to ftp.de.debian and again nothing
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2949 [20:12:18] <molavy> i connected to VPS using ssh but can't ping google and any other site
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2951 [20:13:08] <molavy> apt-get update also remain at
2952 [20:13:08] <molavy> 0% [Connecting to httpredir.debian.org] [Connecting to security.debian.org]
2953 [20:13:29] <molavy> any idea?
2954 [20:13:37] <missmbob> !httpredir issues
2955 [20:13:37] <dpkg> The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb replaced-url
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2958 [20:14:48] <kion> molavy, seems like you don't have internet access, check you network card, firewall rules, etc...
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2960 [20:15:42] <molavy> i can connect to vps using ssh, but seems true, i will disable firewall
2961 [20:15:44] <molavy> thanks
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2979 [20:20:48] <noqnio1> is it possible that they removed libcudart6.5 from the repos? and why would they do that?
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2981 [20:21:32] <molavy> kion: how can i disable iptables and firewall
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2983 [20:22:26] <kion> molavy, what does sudo iptables -L -vn gives you?
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2987 [20:23:32] <molavy> kion: replaced-url
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2990 [20:24:37] <missmbob> molavy: did you not see what the bot said about httpredir ?
2991 [20:25:26] <kion> molavy, your firewall is configured to allow all traffic, the problem is somewhere else
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2993 [20:26:37] <kion> molavy, can you see network interfaces with 'sudo ifconfig' ? like eth0 or wlan0?
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2995 [20:26:54] <missmbob> it has nothing to do with that. sigh. otherwise he wouldn't be able to ssh in
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2998 [20:27:58] <kion> missmbob, I guess you are right
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3003 [20:29:01] <noqnio1> so, libcudart6.5 seems to have disappeared. Is there a place where people in the repositories give reasoning behind their acts?
3004 [20:29:25] <kion> molavy, if you ping 8.8.8.8 what happens?
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3013 [20:31:59] <kion> molavy, did you say you could ssh into your debian box?
3014 [20:32:05] <missmbob> noqnio1: because it became libcudart8.0
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3017 [20:32:28] <missmbob> got replaced by i should say
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3021 [20:33:14] <noqnio1> but why should the previous version disappear, i can't run certain programs now
3022 [20:33:31] <noqnio1> where are the .deb files inside a repository?
3023 [20:33:33] <missmbob> so you upgraded from jessie and broke stuff?
3024 [20:33:38] <greycat> noqnio1: in the pool directory
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3026 [20:34:08] <noqnio1> i updated, and then autoremove
3027 [20:34:19] <greycat> Never autoremove.
3028 [20:34:26] <greycat> Stupidest stupidest STUPIDEST feature ever created.
3029 [20:34:46] <molavy> kion: yes
3030 [20:34:49] <missmbob> noqnio1: are you still in jessie?
3031 [20:34:54] <noqnio1> yes
3032 [20:34:55] <kion> greycat, why is that? I allways have done it when apt asks for it
3033 [20:35:03] <missmbob> noqnio1: so get it from jessie-backports. it's still there
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3035 [20:35:08] <noqnio1> it is not :(
3036 [20:35:18] <missmbob> ,v libcudart6.5
3037 [20:35:19] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64.
3038 [20:35:30] <molavy> kion: ping 8.8.8.8 not show any result hang on
3039 [20:35:33] <greycat> kion: see what noqnio1 is saying for an example. He had an old version of a lib that he was actually *using* (presumably stuff he compiled from source, not packaged) and now it's gone.
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3041 [20:35:42] <missmbob> noqnio1: replaced-url
3042 [20:35:43] <noqnio1> yes, it was compiled from source
3043 [20:35:45] <kion> molavy there is something very strange, in you iptables report, you have 0 packets gone trough the INPUT chain, at least the packets from your ssh session should show there
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3045 [20:35:57] <noqnio1> missmbob: i see that, but it is not really there
3046 [20:36:04] <kion> molavy, maybe you are ssh'ing into a wrong address
3047 [20:36:19] <noqnio1> root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t jessie-backports libcudart6.5
3048 [20:36:19] <noqnio1> E: Package 'libcudart6.5' has no installation candidate
3049 [20:36:24] <missmbob> noqnio1: that package is i386 only. are you using multiarch? you needed that libary for a 32-bit binary, right?
3050 [20:36:37] <noqnio1> no, i was using the amd64 version
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3052 [20:37:01] <greycat> noqnio1: it exists when I click the i386 link and then select the URL and wget --spider -S it.
3053 [20:37:06] <missmbob> molavy: or you could read what i had the bot tell you about httpredir
3054 [20:37:26] <noqnio1> i need the amd64 version
3055 [20:37:34] <greycat> there isn't one
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3057 [20:37:52] <jelly> noqnio1: maybe you an find old packages on
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3059 [20:37:54] <jelly> !sdo
3060 [20:37:54] <dpkg> replaced-url
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3062 [20:37:58] <kion> molavy, the 0 packets trough your Chains in iptables, show a system that is not connected to any network at all, I have no idea how can you ssh into it,
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3064 [20:38:21] <greycat> You could download the source package and try to build it. I don't know how this package works.
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3067 [20:38:54] <molavy> kion: replaced-url
3068 [20:39:35] <molavy> missmbob: seems that that is not my problem
3069 [20:39:42] <molavy> i can't ever ping google.com
3070 [20:39:49] <noqnio1> thank you jelly
3071 [20:40:23] <missmbob> you really need to lead with that. cat /etc/networks wont help any or show anything useful. did you edit /etc/resolv.conf and add nameservers in there?
3072 [20:40:46] <missmbob> something like "nameserver 8.8.8.8" with no quotes
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3074 [20:40:54] <jhutchins> Wouldn't there be a step of enabling ip forwarding somewhere?
3075 [20:41:06] <lutralontra> i have an older macbook pro (9,2) and i want to put debian on it. do i need to keep os x around? this page makes no reference of that: replaced-url
3076 [20:41:14] <molavy> missmbob: replaced-url
3077 [20:41:30] <lutralontra> i mean do i need to keep os x to boot my system
3078 [20:41:31] <noqnio1> how has this marvelous debian snapshot thingy missed my sights
3079 [20:41:39] <kion> missmbob, He has not have a single packet into his computer!!! it is not DNS related..
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3082 [20:41:58] <kion> missmbob, check his iptables report up there
3083 [20:41:59] <jhutchins> lutralontra: You might need osx for things like bios updates.
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3085 [20:42:35] <jhutchins> lutralontra: If you have install media for later, you could go ahead and wipe the disk.
3086 [20:43:05] <jhutchins> lutralontra: I do know that people commonly do that with macs, dual boot is actually a bit challenging.
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3089 [20:43:22] <jhutchins> !mac
3090 [20:43:23] <dpkg> [mac] Media Access Control, see <mac change>; Macintosh, see <apple>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <powerpc>, <macsound>; Mandatory Access Control, see <apparmor>, <selinux>, <tomoyo>; Monkey's Audio Codec, see <ape>.
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3092 [20:43:30] <gebruiker> !release stretch
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3094 [20:43:45] <jhutchins> !macbook
3095 [20:43:45] <dpkg> macbook is probably replaced-url
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3098 [20:43:58] <gebruiker> !stretch release date
3099 [20:44:03] <missmbob> gebruiker: replaced-url
3100 [20:44:10] <jhutchins> gebruiker: When it's ready.
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3103 [20:44:20] <gebruiker> missmbob: thanks
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3109 [20:46:21] <lutralontra> jhutchins: ok, so i should be able to install debian as the sole os on my machine and not have to worry about booting?
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3113 [20:46:48] <kion> is there a way to know in the terminal if certain package also has a version in backports?
3114 [20:47:06] <greycat> Not without installing something.
3115 [20:47:40] <TomTomTosch> apt-cache policy <pkg> if you have backports in your sources.
3116 [20:47:42] <kion> greycat, so opening synaptics and checking the versions is the way to do it?
3117 [20:47:44] <jhutchins> lutralontra: Correct, you should be able to boot with only Debian on it. It has UEFI I believe, you'll need to keep that.
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3120 [20:47:55] <greycat> If you've already got jessie-backports added, and you've run apt-get update, then you can use apt-cache show pkgname. If you get TWO blocks of output with different versions, then it's a pretty good bet one of them is from jessie-backports.
3121 [20:48:06] <jhutchins> lutralontra: Be sure to read replaced-url
3122 [20:48:18] <lutralontra> thanks
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3124 [20:48:59] <greycat> titan:~$ apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep ^Version
3125 [20:48:59] <greycat> Version: 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1~bpo8+1
3126 [20:48:59] <greycat> Version: 2:2.21.15-2+b2
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3128 [20:49:16] <molavy> kion: how i can i open 80 request connection on iptables
3129 [20:49:27] <greycat> (Also, if one of the versions has "bpo" in it, that's another sign.)
3130 [20:49:47] <kion> greycat, thanks!
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3171 [21:02:20] <jhutchins> molavy: This is based on VMWare, but it should work the same for what you're using: replaced-url
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3175 [21:05:25] <molavy> jhutchins: great thanks, so i should contact vps support?
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3179 [21:06:41] <jhutchins> molavy: I have no idea what you mean by that, the article explains how to manage traffic to/from a virtual machine, which is what I thought you were trying to do. If so, read it.
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3181 [21:07:29] <molavy> jhutchins: thanks
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3183 [21:08:43] <jhutchins> molavy: If you're not managing the virtual machine but are trying to connect to/from a commercially hosted vps, yes, contact their support for information on networking and what ports are available.
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3201 [21:19:48] <molavy> jhutchins: yes, thanks a ton
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3228 [21:28:02] <ToApolytoXaos> evince 3.22.1-2 on debian testing 64-bit fully updated has a peculiar issue. as soon as I open a PDF file, it goes fully maximized by itself and does not let me unmaximize the window; hot keys don't work, manual resizing the window is prevented too. I'm using XFCE4
3229 [21:28:10] <greycat> !debian-next
3230 [21:28:10] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
3231 [21:28:41] <ToApolytoXaos> greycat: "* Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)."
3232 [21:28:56] <ToApolytoXaos> that's the channel I have tried to join first and redirected me here
3233 [21:28:57] <gry> ToApolytoXaos, on oftc not on freenode
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3235 [21:29:07] <ToApolytoXaos> darn it -_- I forgot about it
3236 [21:29:08] <ToApolytoXaos> cheers
3237 [21:29:12] <gry> :)
3238 [21:29:15] <greycat> If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3242 [21:30:01] <ToApolytoXaos> I completely ignored the message, because I thought I was on the right server
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3292 [21:56:40] <TheAvatar> Hey - can I see what takes up a DISPLAY slot? "A VNC server is already running as :32"
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3297 [21:59:33] <Edisson> Hola
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3405 [22:44:26] <DoctorD90> hi! guys, how could I set default program from terminal?
3406 [22:44:40] <Anonymes> Hi
3407 [22:44:42] <greycat> What do you mean by "default program"?
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3411 [22:46:18] <rhe> yeah, default program for doing what?
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3415 [22:47:09] <DoctorD90> hi greycat :) i mean that when I instal libreoffice, debian opens .xlsx files with archive manager, or .rft with gedit. And each time I update libreoffice form .debs (removing old, install news) my "GUI settings" about open .rft with writer, and .xlsx with calc get disappear :P so I thougth to create a simple script to auto-set my default libreoffice related stuff opening :)
3416 [22:47:32] <thedogcatcher> After upgrading an older PXE server to Jessie, clients can no longer get to the vesamenu when PXE booting. It hangs at "Chainloading" for a few seconds, and then the boot fails. Any ideas?
3417 [22:47:39] <greycat> Oh, you mean "tell my desktop environment to open files with .xyz extension with program abc"? I have no idea. It would depend on which DE you use.
3418 [22:48:29] <DoctorD90> gnome, and yes greycat, that one :P
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3427 [22:51:41] <DoctorD90> greycat, /usr/share/gnome/applications/defaults.list :D find out maybe :D ....but now i have to understand how to edit.....uff >.>
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3429 [22:52:09] <greycat> Anything in /usr/share is system-wide. Not for you. No touchie.
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3431 [22:52:22] <greycat> Find a GNOME channel if nobody here knows (I sure as hell don't know).
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3434 [22:53:27] <mycae> Hi, stupid question, but does ilmbase have copyrighted code? debian/copyright says Files: * Copyright: 2005, Industrial Light & Magic (...)
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3438 [22:54:39] <greycat> Almost all software is copyrighted. You need to continue reading to find the license.
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3440 [22:54:43] <mycae> Thats it
3441 [22:54:46] <DoctorD90> greycat, why I should not touch? The pc has only 1 user, and user is me :P is not rigth to edit that one?
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3444 [22:55:04] <greycat> DoctorD90: Find out how you're SUPPOSED to do it, because your personal GNOME settings probably override that file anyway.
3445 [22:55:07] <mycae> replaced-url
3446 [22:55:27] <DoctorD90> greycat, oh. gotcha :) thx!
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3448 [22:55:36] <greycat> "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: ..."
3449 [22:55:39] <greycat> That's your license.
3450 [22:55:48] <vlad__> Hello, I'm trying to add a file to initramfs, how can I do this? Also it is my understanding that the /boot partition is not available while initramfs is loaded?
3451 [22:55:52] <mycae> Hmm.
3452 [22:56:03] <greycat> Well, part of the license. Apparently it varies from file to file.
3453 [22:56:07] <comodorowolf> ola
3454 [22:56:10] <greycat> Good luck.
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3458 [22:56:41] <mycae> maybe then in : replaced-url
3459 [22:56:42] <mycae> ?
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3461 [22:57:00] <mycae> it says "confidential and proprietary"
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3463 [22:57:30] <greycat> ,v ilmbase
3464 [22:57:31] <judd> No package named 'ilmbase' was found in amd64.
3465 [22:57:39] <greycat> *shrug*
3466 [22:57:51] <mycae> its a source package
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3468 [22:58:07] <mycae> generates libilmbase12
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3505 [23:13:16] <popout> Can you run KDE with 2gb of ram?
3506 [23:13:26] <greycat> sure
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3509 [23:15:03] <otyugh_III> hey. My /etc/network/interfaces is ignored, what package can "be before that" causing the problem ?
3510 [23:15:16] <otyugh_III> something like a network manager or such
3511 [23:15:21] <otyugh_III> I guess
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3514 [23:15:40] <greycat> /etc/network/interfaces should have priority over network-manager for the interfaces that are defined in /e/n/i
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3516 [23:15:48] <otyugh_III> weird
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3519 [23:15:53] <greycat> Anything that's *not* defined there, n-m will take over.
3520 [23:16:07] <otyugh_III> the /etc/network/interfaces defines eth0 manually
3521 [23:16:14] <otyugh_III> the adress it takes on reboot is dhcp
3522 [23:16:19] <greycat> If you want to be absolutely sure you're in control, you could always just delete network-manager.
3523 [23:16:28] <otyugh_III> well it's not installed
3524 [23:16:39] <otyugh_III> I'm just wondering if it could be something of that sort
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3526 [23:17:03] <greycat> If some locally installed script runs a dhcp client daemon by hand....
3527 [23:17:05] <otyugh_III> as long as I know it's a net install, I shouldn't have this behaviour
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3529 [23:17:42] <otyugh_III> erh. I don't know where to look, bummer
3530 [23:18:00] <greycat> Start by seeing which dhcp client daemon is running, if any.
3531 [23:18:09] <greycat> Then try to figure out who made it run.
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3535 [23:19:37] <otyugh_III> root 542 0.0 0.3 2552 1548 ? Ss 22:19 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -q -w
3536 [23:19:40] <otyugh_III> there is that...
3537 [23:20:28] <th0r> otyugh_III, has anyone looked at your interfaces file?
3538 [23:21:02] <th0r> otyugh_III, you should be able to define the ip address in interfaces, but there are a few lines in /etc/dhcpcd.conf that need to be added as well
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3541 [23:21:45] <th0r> otyugh_III, dhcpcd is a relatively new addition to the game.
3542 [23:21:57] <greycat> I thought it was really really *old*.
3543 [23:22:08] <greycat> Not as old as pump, but....
3544 [23:22:26] <greycat> ,v dhcpcd
3545 [23:22:27] <judd> Package: dhcpcd on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.2.3-11+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:3.2.3-11+deb7u1
3546 [23:22:30] <th0r> greycat, i hope not...it gave me fits when I was trying to define my dns servers
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3550 [23:22:53] <th0r> maybe our definitions of old are different <smile>
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3553 [23:23:03] <otyugh_III> replaced-url
3554 [23:23:10] <greycat> ,v dhcpcd5
3555 [23:23:10] <judd> Package: dhcpcd5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.6-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.6-1+deb7u2; jessie: 6.0.5-2; stretch: 6.10.1-1; sid: 6.10.1-1
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3559 [23:24:18] <th0r> otyugh_III, that is the way I was trying to do it...old way. let me get a link to my note on dhcpcd and interfaces for you.
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3561 [23:24:33] <greycat> * dhcpcd - DHCP client daemon
3562 [23:24:34] <greycat> * Copyright 2006-2008 Roy Marples <roy@marples.name>
3563 [23:25:08] <otyugh_III> I'm pretty sure it should work, allas
3564 [23:25:41] <greycat> Anyway, it appears that a "dhcpcd" program has been around a long time, under various maintainers.
3565 [23:25:51] <greycat> Not sure how much it has changed over the decades.
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3567 [23:26:35] <greycat> otyugh_III: review your /e/n/i file, and if you don't see a dhcp entry there, find out what's starting dhcpcd
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3570 [23:27:22] <otyugh_III> mhm, I guess it would be systemd
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3572 [23:27:59] <th0r> otyugh_III, dhcpcd will overwrite the dns info. You need to define that in dhcpcd.conf.
3573 [23:28:15] <otyugh_III> wat
3574 [23:28:32] <th0r> otyugh_III, unfortunately, I just moved to epiphany and google drive won't let me in without downloading and installing some crap in my browser.
3575 [23:28:36] <otyugh_III> the issue is that I get a dhcp ip, not any dns stuff related ?
3576 [23:28:53] <Gruselbauer> hey, is there a way to tell the network install process to try again if it times out?
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3584 [23:31:46] <Gruselbauer> i'm on terribly spotty interwebs and I'd really like to not lose the install progress, but it's been hanging at 97/271 packages for a while
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3616 [23:46:53] <OverCoder> hi guys
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3620 [23:47:35] <OverCoder> tl;dr, I was never a C dev but I'mt rying to build a package and maintain a PPA for it
3621 [23:47:37] <OverCoder> So basically I got some magic done in the debian directory, "debuild -b -uc -us" seems to work and generates bunch of .deb files, but "debuild -S" doesn't, throws an error
3622 [23:47:38] * OverCoder pastes
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3627 [23:50:36] <zykotick9> OverCoder: "I'mt rying to build a package and maintain a PPA for it" <- so you're probably looking for the #ubuntu channel
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3630 [23:51:39] <OverCoder> o, right, thanks
3631 [23:51:39] <OverCoder> also why I'm lagging by something like 3 minutes
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3640 [23:57:21] <otyugh_II> ok, it was simply a misspell somehow
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3642 [23:57:43] <Piraty> hello in here. a friend has strange bahaviour of enigmail (icedove-plugin, packaged via apt) and gpg. it seemd gpg is called with wrong parameters and therefore cannot perform some basic tasks. He lives on testing-branch right now, didn't change anything on gpg on purpose (he is new to linux and only updates via synaptic...). my question would be, how can i safely restore default settings of gpg and/or enigmail to overcome this? i found
3643 [23:57:43] <Piraty> several alike articles/forum entries on the net, but none mentioned the part of false cmd options, which is the output of the enigmail log. i tried to solve by purging the enigmail and gnupg+gnupg2 package (which should be the same i guess) and removed enigmail related entries in the thunderbird folder. reinstalling both packages+deps gave me the same thing. i should mention that initially, the problem lied elsewhere, as the gnupg trustdb was
3644 [23:57:43] <Piraty> damaged or sth., and enigmail suggested to re-create the trustdb. so i did and ended up with the previously described scenario. thanks for reading and pleae help me ;)
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3647 [23:59:29] <zykotick9> Piraty: "He lives on testing-branch right now,... (he is new to linux..." <- a BAD combination
3648 [23:59:48] <Piraty> may be related?
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