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97 [00:54:09] <telecode101> hello
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136 [01:17:26] <kion> Hello, I accidentally deleted my /lib64 directory, is there an easy way to get my system back or should I reinstall debian?
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144 [01:20:19] <telecode101> hi. i am wondering if this is the right place to ask for help with Make on Debian.
145 [01:21:07] <telecode101> I found a software that I managed to debug and now know how to make it compile properly on wheezy.
146 [01:21:23] <telecode101> i want to package it up and offer for distribution.
147 [01:21:37] <telecode101> is there a proper way to do that?
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151 [01:22:59] <sweettea> how did you accidentally delete /lib64?
152 [01:23:13] <mutante> telecode101: i think the proper way is to find a "sponsor", a Debian dev who has done that before and is willing to co-maintain the package
153 [01:24:24] <nkuttler> hm, great, i mapped the escape key to run a script and can't remember where/how i did it..
154 [01:25:00] <nkuttler> kion: try dpkg -S /lib64
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156 [01:25:25] <telecode101> mutante: I checked the site on debian replaced-url
157 [01:25:30] <telecode101> the software is not listed.
158 [01:25:45] <telecode101> looks like they stopped developing on it in 2010.
159 [01:26:07] <telecode101> the reason i picked it up is i had to figure out how to make it compile on wheezy.
160 [01:26:44] <telecode101> i will check the list to see if there is anyone willing to help maintain it.
161 [01:26:46] <telecode101> thanx
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165 [01:28:29] <mutante> telecode101: that sounds like a good plan
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193 [01:36:37] <SpeakFreely> Has anyone gotten the drivers for the latest Nvidia generation (pascal) to work on Jessie?
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257 [02:04:02] <LordBizness> good evening #debian. I was wondering if anyone could offer any leads to removing some sort of ban on my ip for ssh only. i've checked my iptables and hosts.deny and have nothing there. i don't see that i have fail2ban setup either. where else could i look?
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260 [02:04:50] <nkuttler> LordBizness: /var/log/auth.log
261 [02:04:57] <somiaj> LordBizness: try add -vvv to your ssh command to get more output why it was rejected? If it was iptables you'll never hit the ssh server, if it hosts.deny you may get more info.
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286 [02:08:49] <pipegeek> does anyone know how to configure the mount options udisks2 uses by default for a given filesystem? I see mount options hardcoded in udiskslinuxfilesystem.c, and I see that it's possible to pass in overrides, but I don't understand udev or udisks well enough to know how to pass those overrides from a udev rule
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289 [02:09:01] <missmbob> !tell LordBizness about crosspost
290 [02:09:05] <pipegeek> and the only mailing list posts I can find on the subject basically just say, "write a udev rule"
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294 [02:09:33] <LordBizness> my bad
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310 [02:13:19] <LordBizness> somiaj, the last thing my ssh reads is Connecting to server.com port 22....and holds up there. i didn't see the ip in any log or iptable
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313 [02:15:18] <LordBizness> the moment i restart my router, and gain a new address. it connects right up. yet i have nothing that contains the last ip
314 [02:15:40] <LordBizness> however, i can access it via http
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317 [02:17:27] <pipegeek> so, automounting with gvfs + udisks + udev: where might it be possible to configure mount options without recompiling udisks?
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321 [02:18:34] <hanshenrik> when i do apt-get remove --purge apache2; why is there still an /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
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324 [02:18:49] <hanshenrik> isn't --purge supposed to make it delete conf files n stuff?
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327 [02:19:48] <bitgamy> hanshenrik: did you try dpkg --purge apache2
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334 [02:23:34] <hanshenrik> bitgamy, not really
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337 [02:29:18] <themill> There are plenty of packages other than 'apache2' that ship configuration files in /etc/apache2
338 [02:30:04] * themill counts 202
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341 [02:31:33] <SpeakFreely> how steady would it be for me to use the stretch release? I can't get the nvidia drivers to work and this is cruicial for the work I'll be doing
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343 [02:34:00] <jeep> pipegeek you just need to write a udev rule probably
344 [02:34:09] <pipegeek> heh
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346 [02:34:46] <pipegeek> jeep: but I guess what I'm asking is, what rule? I don't see any UDISKS_ options for passing through mount options.
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348 [02:35:29] <pipegeek> jeep: there's a lot of people saying, "write a udev rule" on mailing lists, but I can't seem to find actual example code, or any indication that it's something that can be configured that way
349 [02:35:44] <jeep> pipegeek you can make udev rule to do basicly anything for example i had a USB aircard i made a udev rule to execute the script it needed
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352 [02:36:19] <pipegeek> jeep: sure, but I'm not sure I understand the interaction between udev and udisks2. It's not that I want to do a new thing, it's that I want to configure an existing thing
353 [02:36:30] <pipegeek> udisks2 automatically executes certain actions when udev events fire
354 [02:36:34] <pipegeek> and I want to change those actions
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358 [02:36:57] <pipegeek> and I can't for the life of me see how that might be done.
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360 [02:37:19] <CatBehemoth> .
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366 [02:38:50] <jeep> pipegeek: replaced-url
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371 [02:40:24] <jeep> pipegeek: you probably want to make a rule to execute a script in the script put your special mount commands
372 [02:41:01] <pipegeek> hmm. I'm gonna see if udisksd respects OPTIONS, 'cause that'd be nifty. I dunno how I missed that
373 [02:41:24] <pipegeek> but I feel like if I call out to a script that explicitly calls mount, that may fight with whatever gnome/udisks is doing automatically
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378 [02:42:25] <pipegeek> oh, OPTIONS aren't mount options :(
379 [02:42:32] <pipegeek> so yeah, I don't see anything relevant on that page.
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394 [02:47:44] <pipegeek> jeep: any other suggestions :-\ this is driving me up the wall. It doesn't seem like such a strange thing to want to do
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397 [02:50:37] <pipegeek> by default, ntfs filesystems are automounted without posix permissions support. I'd like to change that default. I'd rather not end up forking udisks2 to do it :(
398 [02:51:29] <missmbob> you can't
399 [02:52:13] <ranix> you can do anything you want, it's oss
400 [02:52:21] <ranix> you're just signing up for recompiling something
401 [02:52:28] <missmbob> ntfs is not open source
402 [02:52:36] <pipegeek> ?
403 [02:52:40] <pipegeek> ntfs-3g is.
404 [02:52:51] <pipegeek> and regardless, this isn't an ntfs-specific question
405 [02:52:51] <missmbob> that doesnt change the underlying filesystem
406 [02:53:18] <pipegeek> but I don't see how that's relevant to what I'm asking :( I don't want to change the filesystem, I just want it to get automatically mounted with the 'permissions' option
407 [02:53:19] <missmbob> you asked how to use ntfs with posix permission support. you cant is the answer
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409 [02:53:38] <ranix> is it possible to mount it manuallt with the permissions option
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411 [02:53:42] <pipegeek> missmbob: that's actually not true
412 [02:53:43] <ranix> manually*
413 [02:53:52] <missmbob> no
414 [02:54:16] <missmbob> you can alter which uid it's mounted under. that's it.
415 [02:54:23] <missmbob> you dont add permissions to the underlying fs
416 [02:55:03] <ranix> sounds like you might have to rewrite ntfs with permission support pipegeek
417 [02:55:55] <pipegeek> missmbob ranix: if you look at the man page for ntfs-3g, you will see that there is a 'permissions' mount-time option, which layers the posix permissions model on top of ntfs using a mapping file.
418 [02:56:00] <themill> ntfs-3g already supports a windows user → posix mapping option called "permissions"
419 [02:56:04] <pipegeek> I really and truly am not making that up.
420 [02:56:17] <ranix> can you perform this process manually
421 [02:56:18] <themill> replaced-url
422 [02:56:22] <pipegeek> ranix: yes.
423 [02:56:30] <ranix> can you write a script to do it
424 [02:56:33] <pipegeek> yes.
425 [02:56:46] <pipegeek> but my fear is that it will conflict with the automatic behavior from udisks.
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427 [02:56:53] <ranix> you could be fancy and have udev do it automatically
428 [02:56:56] <pipegeek> which seems like it really ought to be configurable.
429 [02:57:12] <ranix> or you could wait until the automatic behavior happens and then have your script remount
430 [02:57:20] <ranix> upstart would probably handle that no problem
431 [02:57:23] <pipegeek> that does seem pretty hacky :(
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434 [02:57:40] <pipegeek> I mean, possible, but ... why would "default mount options" not be an obvious configurable thing?
435 [02:57:46] <ranix> it should be possible to figure out what udev is running to set that up
436 [02:57:56] <ranix> does it have an entry in /etc/fstab
437 [02:57:59] <pipegeek> nope.
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439 [02:58:06] <ranix> where does it mount
440 [02:58:11] <pipegeek> it gets automatically mounted on /media/<username>/<label>
441 [02:58:20] <ranix> that's super weird
442 [02:58:28] <pipegeek> but also the default for (at least) gnome
443 [02:58:29] <ranix> is your desktop environment doing that
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445 [02:59:05] <ranix> I've seen that before, where they do things like automount usb drives
446 [02:59:08] <pipegeek> ranix: where do usb drives get auto-mounted for you? This is pretty vanilla debian sid
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448 [02:59:19] <pipegeek> running kde
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450 [02:59:22] <ranix> I think the default ubuntu interface is called cinnamob
451 [02:59:26] <ranix> cinnamon
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454 [02:59:39] <ranix> something about that has sometimes automounted usb drives
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456 [02:59:53] <pipegeek> I'm not running ubuntu. Heh. I mean, I'm running ubuntu on another laptop where I'd also like to be able to do this, but I'm trying to do it right now on my debian host
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458 [02:59:57] <ranix> I don't ever use that stuff and I change my DE to just plain xfce so I never root caused this
459 [03:00:02] <pipegeek> ah
460 [03:00:04] <ranix> but I know it happens
461 [03:00:15] <ranix> and this sounds like that
462 [03:00:21] <pipegeek> this is exactly that.
463 [03:00:25] <pipegeek> that's sort of what udisks2 does
464 [03:01:04] <ranix> there should be some kind of wysiwig config thing in kde that will guide you to that information
465 [03:01:12] <pipegeek> you'd think so :(
466 [03:01:16] <ranix> yeah haha
467 [03:01:34] <pipegeek> I really wonder whether this si just a big oversight. There've been mailing list posts going back six years asking how to do this and no answers
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469 [03:02:15] <pipegeek> other than, "configure udev to do what you want manually, bypassing udisksd" or "configure udev to remount with the correct options after it gets mounted incorrectly"
470 [03:02:23] <ranix> I think they fight
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472 [03:02:29] <pipegeek> and "edit the source for udisksd and rebuild"
473 [03:02:30] <ranix> that was the bug I found at the time
474 [03:02:53] <ranix> some script was getting hosed by the DE automounting a usb drive
475 [03:03:04] <pipegeek> gross
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478 [03:03:33] <ranix> replaced-url
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480 [03:03:38] <ranix> not sure this is useful
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482 [03:03:52] <pipegeek> I may just end up rebuilding udisksd but that's just setting myself up for more headache months down the road when a new version gets pushed out and I've forgotten what I did x)
483 [03:04:01] * pipegeek looks
484 [03:04:02] <pipegeek> thanks
485 [03:04:35] <ranix> if you can turn this off you can definitely make a fstab entry or udev rule and be unafraid of race conditions or ugly hax
486 [03:04:44] <ranix> but this might have a way to add the options you seek
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489 [03:06:25] <pipegeek> yeah. I do not want to turn it off. I like the way it works. It's just bizarre to me how difficult it is to configure.
490 [03:06:30] <pipegeek> anyway, thanks. I'll check it out.
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493 [03:08:15] <pipegeek> ooooo
494 [03:08:18] <pipegeek> and I just noticed something!
495 [03:08:32] <pipegeek> much as I'd like to be able to configure default mount options in general
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497 [03:09:08] <pipegeek> it looks like I may be able to modify the filesystem so at least this one automatically gets that option by default
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499 [03:09:26] <pipegeek> "This option is set by default when a user mapping file is present." (from the man page)
500 [03:09:57] <ranix> cool
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508 [03:16:51] <stoned> I want to recurse through a directory using find, but only search for files that DO NOT have a certain keyword
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510 [03:16:53] <stoned> I'm unsure how to do this
511 [03:17:07] <stoned> which tools/utils would I combine
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513 [03:18:22] <pipegeek> ranix: sweeeeet! Okay, for anyone else who needs it (haha) my ends could be achieved differently by using the 'ntfs-3g.usermap' tool to generate a user map and copy it into the filesystem, then remounting the disk
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515 [03:18:27] <pipegeek> stoned: lemme think
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517 [03:18:34] <pipegeek> I think you might be able to just do it with find
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519 [03:18:44] <pipegeek> find \! -name '*foo*'
520 [03:19:07] <pipegeek> stoned: lemme know if that works
521 [03:19:10] <missmbob> -not -name might be less confusing
522 [03:19:11] <n4dir> the web says this: find . -type f not -name "*.java"
523 [03:19:27] <pipegeek> -not works too :)
524 [03:19:38] <mutante> for myfile in $(grep -rl someword *); do echo "something with $myfile"; done
525 [03:19:53] <mutante> no find there:p
526 [03:19:56] <missmbob> eek
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528 [03:19:59] <ranix> cool beans pipegeek
529 [03:20:02] <mutante> lol
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531 [03:20:23] <stoned> oh..
532 [03:20:24] <themill> that grep will search file contents not file names
533 [03:20:26] <stoned> oh word.
534 [03:20:33] <pipegeek> oh oh stoned: did you mean files that don't *contain* that keyword, or files whose *names* don't contain the keyword?
535 [03:20:35] <mutante> yes, and that is what he said he wanted
536 [03:20:35] <stoned> yeah hang on
537 [03:20:40] <stoned> let me specify
538 [03:21:50] <pipegeek> though I think you may need grep -rvl to invert it?
539 [03:21:53] <pipegeek> hehe okay :)
540 [03:21:58] <mutante> my command does something with all files that contain "someword"
541 [03:22:07] <stoned> so I have a directory full of subdirectories, each full of markdown files, 80+. Each markdown file has ' author="hash" ' in it. The static site gen is throwing an error that in golang, the author variable is not found (but it doesn't specify which file). So I want to find the markdown file that does NOT have author="hash" (filename needed) so I can edit it.
542 [03:22:24] <pipegeek> ooo, so mutante is cloesr
543 [03:22:29] <pipegeek> just add -v I think. Lemme confirm
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545 [03:23:03] <pipegeek> damnit that's not good enough x.x
546 [03:23:34] <pipegeek> you might wanna use the comm command to get the disjunction of the set of all matches and of all files
547 [03:23:44] <pipegeek> oooh, you could also use find and grep together
548 [03:24:34] <pipegeek> :D
549 [03:24:35] <mutante> maybe easier to split it into 2 parts. a) create list of file names (grep -rlv ..) b) run commands on files in list
550 [03:24:36] <pipegeek> find -type f -not -exec grep -q LICENSE {} \; -print
551 [03:24:39] <pipegeek> that should work :)
552 [03:24:56] <pipegeek> err, hahah, replace LICENSE with someword
553 [03:25:04] <stoned> so bash loop, recurse, store current file in variable, grep said filevar to check for the string, if string exists, go to next file, if string don't exist, echo out file name.
554 [03:25:06] <stoned> Iguess.
555 [03:25:14] <stoned> More coding. Brilliant. I'm stoned already. jeez.
556 [03:25:18] <pipegeek> find -type f -not -exec grep -q ' author="hash" ' -print
557 [03:25:29] <pipegeek> stoned: I think that find command gives you the files you want.
558 [03:25:34] <stoned> let me see
559 [03:25:39] <stoned> sorry, been coding all day
560 [03:25:42] <stoned> kinda dulled out.
561 [03:25:45] <pipegeek> I know the feeling x_x
562 [03:25:54] <pipegeek> hope your day's almost over :)
563 [03:26:02] <mutante> yea, it's the coding :)
564 [03:26:03] <stoned> Oh, yeah it's for personal blog, I don't work.
565 [03:26:07] <stoned> Haven't worked jobs in 8+ yers.
566 [03:26:26] <pipegeek> neat o_o
567 [03:26:28] <mutante> sorry, j/k, i also wanna take a break and convert into your nick
568 [03:26:37] <pipegeek> mutante: heh
569 [03:26:50] <stoned> The power of positive thinking! :) I don't like working. So everyday I have positive thoughts about not working. And look at me, I don't have a job in the world.
570 [03:27:05] <pipegeek> heh.
571 [03:27:33] <stoned> find: missing argument to `-exec
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573 [03:28:12] <pipegeek> oh I left something out
574 [03:28:20] <pipegeek> find -type f -not -exec grep -q ' author="hash" ' \; -print
575 [03:28:27] <pipegeek> you need that \; so find knows where the end of the command is
576 [03:28:30] <pipegeek> sorry
577 [03:28:30] <stoned> yeah i got it.
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580 [03:29:15] <stoned> It's just stuck there. :D
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582 [03:29:24] <pipegeek> how big is the directory?
583 [03:29:33] <stoned> just a few files
584 [03:29:42] <pipegeek> hmmm.
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587 [03:29:49] <stoned> ld_tidptr=0x7f1425d4a9d0) = 1061
588 [03:29:51] <pipegeek> are you running it inside the directory? (stupid question I realize)
589 [03:29:51] <stoned> wait4(1061,
590 [03:29:54] <stoned> strace it and it gets stuck here.
591 [03:30:01] <stoned> oh ffs.
592 [03:30:04] <pipegeek> so, also, are there any very large files?
593 [03:30:09] <pipegeek> heh what is it
594 [03:30:25] <pipegeek> so that suggests that it's blocked waiting for grep to return
595 [03:30:26] <stoned> Oh nothing, it's not large files
596 [03:30:30] <pipegeek> what is it?
597 [03:30:31] <stoned> Yup
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599 [03:30:34] <stoned> trying to see
600 [03:30:39] <pipegeek> shutting up ^^;
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603 [03:32:07] <stoned> It seems to open 1 file
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605 [03:32:34] <themill> you need to tell grep what file to open
606 [03:32:36] <stoned> replaced-url
607 [03:32:47] <stoned> I didn't even look
608 [03:32:57] <stoned> I'm so blindly typign in crap. Jeez. It's one of thos days.
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610 [03:33:22] <pipegeek> grrrrr I left something else out too >_<
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612 [03:33:27] <pipegeek> find -type f -not -exec grep -q ' author="hash" ' {} \; -print
613 [03:33:30] <pipegeek> third time's the charm?
614 [03:33:42] <stoned> It's totally not.
615 [03:33:44] <stoned> :D
616 [03:33:44] <pipegeek> {} is the placeholder for the filename. Without that, grep is listening on stdin
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618 [03:33:46] <pipegeek> hahah
619 [03:33:56] <pipegeek> lemme actually run it this time to confirm
620 [03:34:12] <stoned> stoned@Stoned-PC:~/stoned.io/content$ strace find . -type f -not -exec grep -q 'author="hash"' '{}' \; -print
621 [03:34:19] <stoned> I had it already. It's passing.
622 [03:34:24] <pipegeek> :D
623 [03:34:26] <pipegeek> hoooray
624 [03:34:31] <stoned> find . -name '*.md' -exec sed '1 s/+++/+++\nauthor="hash"/g' '{}' \;
625 [03:34:34] <stoned> I just did this
626 [03:34:38] <pipegeek> hahaha grr, I had both those in the original command I pasted then updated it and deleted them
627 [03:34:48] <stoned> I just abstracted out the authors on my site (more than one now, yay)
628 [03:34:53] <pipegeek> niiice
629 [03:34:54] <stoned> I'm so tired, I forgot things myself
630 [03:34:56] <stoned> :)
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632 [03:35:14] <stoned> Then I'm wondering, if all the markdown fiels got edited
633 [03:35:28] <stoned> why is generator throwing an error... that's ... I should handle this tomorrow.
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637 [03:35:50] <stoned> I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything, but if all the md files are containing my author tag, why ... damnit.
638 [03:36:06] <stoned> But yeah, thanks. I didnt find anything, dindt' think I woudl just wanted to make sure
639 [03:36:08] <stoned> ty
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643 [03:37:51] <stoned> Ok, I got something now. In a totally different dirctory, here I've foudn it. The errenous file is: ./psychedelics/Psychedelics-Are-Deeply-Linked-With-The-Human-Condition.md & ./authors/Yash-Akasha/Thoughts-On-Standing-Rock-Dakota-Pipeline-Conflict.md - Hehe, Hash & Yash. Two authors so far. Anyway, I got it. YAY! Time to go walking. <3
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646 [03:39:26] <stoned> Oh, I see why they didnt' get edited. I ran the sed regex for line 1, and thse two files +++ front matter was defined post line 1. blank line 1. Damnit. Okay now im rambling. I'm out. peace
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671 [04:04:12] <hellyeah> hey
672 [04:04:26] <hellyeah> is it wanyard to make desktop functional?
673 [04:04:32] <hellyeah> i dont remember the exact name
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679 [04:06:17] <hellyeah> !dpkg wayanard
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686 [04:09:11] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> g13> Using windows eh?
687 [04:09:11] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> 04:02 <+eag13> Why not use Hardened Gentoo?
688 [04:09:11] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> 04:02 <+eag13> It can run windows in a VM or through wine
689 [04:09:11] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> 04:02 <+eag13> visit replaced-url
690 [04:09:11] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> 04:03 <+eag13> Have a good night
691 [04:09:12] *** ROFLMAO_ZEDONG was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
692 [04:10:07] <hellyeah> hhahahaha
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697 [04:12:38] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> woops ;)
698 [04:12:49] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> sowwy lol
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700 [04:13:17] <hellyeah> :D
701 [04:14:34] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> only #windows banned me
702 [04:14:46] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> Funny how that worked out
703 [04:14:48] <ROFLMAO_ZEDONG> LOL
704 [04:15:28] <themill> Do you have your own signal:noise control?
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706 [04:16:00] * ROFLMAO_ZEDONG -zzzzzzz-
707 [04:16:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o themill
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710 [04:16:25] <dvs> now it makes two channels
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714 [04:17:54] <p3nt4> !james
715 [04:17:54] <dpkg> Apache James Server is a Java mail server, including SMTP, IMAP services and other components. replaced-url
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721 [04:25:41] <bibble> lol, that's a real server
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745 [04:44:55] <jak2000> !dpkg sources.list
746 [04:44:56] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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764 [05:10:07] <cyberhobo> is there any way to recover a deleted file?
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766 [05:14:16] <Rusty1_> cyphase: google extudelete , not tried it meself
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770 [05:14:51] <ryouma> i did an rsync of / and then another rsync of it, this time with --xattr and --acl. it showed that 3 binaries changed xattrs. ping, ping6, and some systemd thing. why would this occur? i did lsattr and they have the same as any other binary it seems.
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777 [05:24:18] <jelly> ryouma: lsattr does not show extended attributes, use attr or maybe getfattr
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781 [05:26:57] <ryouma> jelly: huh, will try
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784 [05:30:22] <ryouma> jelly: attr -l shows nothing for either the ones rsync changed or one it did not
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786 [05:30:40] <ryouma> whatever, maybe some filesystem glitch
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788 [05:31:24] <jelly> $ attr -l /bin/ping
789 [05:31:24] <jelly> Attribute "capability" has a 20 byte value for /bin/ping
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791 [05:32:35] <ryouma> not for me, just nothing
792 [05:32:59] <ryouma> perhaps because i rsynced without it and rsynced back without it at some point? does debian use those things?
793 [05:33:27] * ryouma has no idea what a 20 byte capability would mean
794 [05:33:41] <jelly> that would mean you lost those values, and won't, for example, be able to run ping as normal user
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797 [05:34:11] <ryouma> indeed i can't
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799 [05:34:33] <ryouma> i wonder if i can restore these things without reinstalling. probably not.
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801 [05:35:23] <jelly> reinstalling the packages is probably the simplest way to fix it, yeah
802 [05:36:08] <ryouma> oh, hmm, i suppose i could somehow do that. but i'd have to know which packages have unusual xattrs.
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804 [05:37:09] <jelly> probably the same ones that lost them :-0
805 [05:37:13] <jelly> less /var/lib/dpkg/info/iputils-ping.postinst # see use of setcap there
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810 [05:38:36] <ryouma> jelly: reinstalled, and user pings
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812 [05:39:16] <jelly> I guess "getcap" shows the effective value of that particular xattr
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816 [05:41:25] <ryouma> jelly: i think i will not try to reinstall systemd: /usr/bin/systemd-detect-virt, and just hope that it is not critical to have those attrs
817 [05:41:42] <ryouma> because aptiutude will complain if i remove it
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851 [06:07:54] <pingfloyd> normally, I wouldn't worry about backing up executables
852 [06:08:10] <pingfloyd> easier to just reinstall if disaster strikes
853 [06:09:26] <pingfloyd> ryouma: what about "reinstall" directive?
854 [06:09:44] <pingfloyd> e.g., aptitude reinstall ...
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859 [06:12:13] <mutante> what can be nice to have a backup of is the list of installed packages, just that tiny file you would get from dpkg --get-selections. then you can restore it even easier
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864 [06:15:40] <somiaj> !aptitude clone
865 [06:15:40] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
866 [06:15:49] <somiaj> mutante: I like that over --get-selections because it saves autoinstall info
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868 [06:16:56] <missmbob> i like <debian clone> since not all machines have aptitude
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873 [06:18:31] <pingfloyd> the problem with --set-selections is it marks it all as manually installed
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875 [06:20:25] <mutante> somiaj: thanks, that's interesting
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885 [06:25:39] <pingfloyd> mutante: here's another alternative: apt-mark showmanual > pkg_list; then on target; xargs apt-get install < pkg_list
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888 [06:26:58] <mutante> thanks
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891 [06:27:11] <mutante> needs to write that down somewhere
892 [06:27:36] <mutante> pingfloyd: add to bot?
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895 [06:28:24] <simbalion`> Hi, when I try to use '/usr/local/bin/script.sh 2>&1 | mail -s "$HOSTNAME Results" email@example.com' in a cron job, the output gets mailed but sometimes it gets sent as an attachment? Shouldn't it be the message body?
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905 [06:40:56] <awal1> While apt-get configures 'grub-pc', I have always seen/see the message "Installing for i386 platform" even in amd64 arch. Why i386 platform if the system is amd64?
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910 [06:42:30] <awal1> I see the same message if the machine on i386 system
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913 [06:43:44] <awal1> I see the same message on i386 system ^
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924 [07:02:54] <Screamslash> how do i get the opengl 4.1 driver for debian?
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933 [07:06:38] <Stadtpirat> Hello people, I subscribed at replaced-url
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935 [07:07:06] <Stadtpirat> Does subscription work at the moment?
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946 [07:11:06] <missmbob> yeah it works. check your spam
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949 [07:11:56] <Stadtpirat> did, empty.
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1006 [07:56:57] <bibble> anyone connected to wifi from cli ?
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1011 [07:57:42] <bibble> ..thinking going to have to use eth, lol
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1038 [08:10:39] <bibble> is there not actually a single debian dev in here ?
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1040 [08:11:15] <bibble> please debian, ethernet is old, make easy wifi connect from cli
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1044 [08:11:42] <bibble> 'wifi <ssid> <password>
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1046 [08:12:15] <Guest49886> I cannot subscribe at replaced-url
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1051 [08:13:26] <bibble> Guest49886: not sure there's any real deb devs here unfortunately ;_;
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1054 [08:13:42] <somiaj> bibble: you can do it with aliases in your /etc/network/interfaces file, then thigns like ifup wlan0=network
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1056 [08:13:49] <somiaj> bibble: and ifdown wlan0 to bring it down.
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1058 [08:14:16] <bibble> thanks somiaj , will look into it :)
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1060 [08:14:34] <somiaj> bibble: though using wpa_supplicant in roam mode and wpa_cli to control it is more modern
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1063 [08:15:06] <somiaj> bibble: the itnerfaces file you ahve to manually bring up/down each network you move between, wpa_supplicant in roam mode will change between wifi networks as you move for you
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1066 [08:15:18] <somiaj> bibble: network-manager can also be controled from the cli too if you are acustom to that.
1067 [08:16:01] <bibble> somiaj: cool, checking replaced-url
1068 [08:16:33] <bibble> ..but w0w. didn;
1069 [08:16:46] <bibble> think about being caught out by wifi , lol
1070 [08:17:07] <bibble> strange
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1073 [08:18:20] <jusss> I'm using lxde now, and how to rotate my screen?
1074 [08:19:17] <relaxed> jusss: man xrandr
1075 [08:19:19] <somiaj> jusss: xrandr can do it from a terminal. There are some gui front ends to that, unsure where they will be in lxde, maybe check system settings/propertiesi for display settings
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1078 [08:20:56] <awal1> lxrandr
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1091 [08:25:35] <bibble> jusss: have you use xfce too ?
1092 [08:25:42] <bibble> which you prefer ?
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1110 [08:39:14] <jusss> bibble: I have not used xfce, just lxde now
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1115 [08:40:47] <bibble> See jusss . would be great to get your opinion on both, depending on lxde time
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1138 [08:57:30] <pingfloyd> bibble: I think xfce is much better
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1140 [08:58:12] <jusss> which windows manager you guys use?
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1142 [08:58:21] <bibble> pingfloyd: cool. thinking the same
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1144 [08:59:08] <bibble> jusss: for light weight, suppose to be between fluxbox & openbox
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1146 [08:59:31] <bibble> fluxbox has the panels etc with it
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1148 [09:00:17] <pingfloyd> I'm not a fan of openbox
1149 [09:00:34] <hexadecimal> cinnamon
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1152 [09:00:59] <jusss> waht about awesome or fvwm?
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1154 [09:01:11] <hexadecimal> jusss: awesome is pretty good
1155 [09:01:13] <pingfloyd> for box wm, I'd go with blackbox or fluxbox
1156 [09:01:13] <jusss> I have not yet tried awesome
1157 [09:01:51] <bibble> pingfloyd: at gun point, blackbox or fluxbox ?
1158 [09:01:52] <hexadecimal> I3 is good too
1159 [09:01:59] <hexadecimal> if you like tilling
1160 [09:02:09] <pingfloyd> bibble: fluxbox has more features
1161 [09:02:15] <Anselmo> there are so many tiling wms
1162 [09:02:23] <bibble> si si, interesting pingfloyd
1163 [09:02:30] <pingfloyd> and they're not a bad choice of them either
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1165 [09:02:53] <bibble> hexadecimal: I3 ?
1166 [09:02:57] <pingfloyd> blackbox is more minimalist
1167 [09:03:15] <bibble> ah, makes sense actually
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1169 [09:03:27] <bibble> !g I3
1170 [09:03:31] <hexadecimal> I3 is a tiling WM
1171 [09:04:07] <bibble> looks intersting
1172 [09:04:19] <jusss> I heard there's a WM config with scheme language?
1173 [09:04:19] <bibble> replaced-url
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1177 [09:05:57] <jusss> Alt-Tab switch windows, this funciton belong WM or DM DV?
1178 [09:06:07] <jusss> DE
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1190 [09:11:03] <jusss> now I have installed fvwm2 i3-wm awesome, also lxde with openbox, how I can get into them one by one?
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1192 [09:11:22] <jusss> I mean startx will auto run lxde-openbox
1193 [09:11:30] <OpenTokix> jusss: via your session manager
1194 [09:11:47] <jusss> OpenTokix: I see
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1201 [09:15:12] <jusss> restart my Xorg for other WM, see you later
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1230 [09:29:26] <jusss> wow, awesome is different from fvwm
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1233 [09:30:59] <OpenTokix> wow indeed
1234 [09:31:14] <mrrhq> Never was a fan of Awesome WM myself when they were just changing the functions/syntax of how it worked whenever they felt like, breaking my Lua configurations each time. Oh well.
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1237 [09:31:28] <mrrhq> That was a few years ago though.
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1241 [09:32:32] <OpenTokix> I prefer i3wm myself.
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1243 [09:33:12] <mrrhq> A lot of people do. I want to use Sway (WM) badly.
1244 [09:33:33] <ransur0t> spectrwm
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1251 [09:36:01] <he1kki> Hi. While upgrading from squeeze->wheezy->jessie, I managed to dist-upgrade everything else but kernel, which is still 2.6.32.*. Now udev update installation with message "Please upgrade your kenerl before or while upgrading udev".
1252 [09:36:08] <Razva> hey guys! here's an interesting question. I have a home server that has two nics, one is connected to the Internet via PPPoE (eth0), the other one is connected to my home switch (eth1). I've made two VMs, one acting as a router. I've made two bridges (vmbr0 -> eth0 & vmbr1 -> eth1) and connected the router VM to both. the router VM can't use ethX directly, it needs to use a bridge. I've set
1253 [09:36:08] <Razva> the router VM to use the vmbr0 -> eth0 and setup PPPoE and set vbmr1 -> eth1 as a DHCP server. here's the issue: the DHCP clients can access the internet, but the hypervisor can't. any hints?
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1263 [09:38:20] <he1kki> My guess is that I need to reconfigure grub, but a bit unsure how to proceed as this problem doesn't exist in normal upgrade path
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1277 [09:44:25] <Agiofws> good day
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1298 [09:52:18] <daio> hey all how do I put a debian installer onto a usb stick
1299 [09:52:22] <daio> from console
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1302 [09:52:40] <OpenTokix> daio: only the installer, or a iso?
1303 [09:52:54] <daio> OpenTokix: any would do to be honest, netinst, or w/e
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1306 [09:53:13] <daio> network speed and configuration should not be a problem this is a wired system
1307 [09:53:18] <daio> on a intel gigabit card
1308 [09:53:25] <OpenTokix> daio: If you have a iso, you can use dd if=isofile of=usb-device bs=16M
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1315 [09:53:50] <daio> OpenTokix: would you be kind enough to get me a link to an amd64 installer image
1316 [09:53:58] <OpenTokix> example: dd if=debian-amd65-netinstall.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=16M
1317 [09:53:59] <daio> I am really stuck in console with no web browser so I am struggling a little
1318 [09:54:06] <daio> not sure if it matters I normally use xfce
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1320 [09:54:31] <daio> I imagine x enviroment is selectable in the installer anyhow
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1323 [09:54:48] <daio> this system was windows, it dropped a disk so I shoved the only OS I had handy on another drive (freebsd)
1324 [09:54:56] <daio> but freebsd does not like my graphics/monitor setup
1325 [09:55:02] <OpenTokix> daio: replaced-url
1326 [09:55:04] <daio> so I figure debian would be a nice os to try on it
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1328 [09:55:05] <daio> cheers
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1332 [09:56:10] <daio> just hope debian does not hit the same problem as freebsd now lol
1333 [09:56:20] <daio> really cannot be bothered finding windows install dvd its probably buried somewhere
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1343 [10:00:05] <daio> so you guys up to much?>
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1350 [10:01:50] <pratama> Hello
1351 [10:01:58] <daio> hello pratama
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1353 [10:02:52] <pratama> i'm new comer i guess, nice to meet you all :)
1354 [10:03:00] <daio> pleasure :)
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1357 [10:03:52] <daio> ok time to se if the installer boots :) brb
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1408 [10:29:01] <jolt> Tjo!
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1410 [10:29:41] <OpenTokix> jolt: :D
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1418 [10:33:18] <jolt> OpenTokix: restarted due to trying out tmux on 0x2a!
1419 [10:33:28] <jolt> OpenTokix: and I thought I was in another channel....
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1423 [10:35:03] <alwyn> Hi, how can I _update_ a gpg keyring for apt? Just now I've added a new version of percona's keyring but it created /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/percona-keyring2.gpg instead of updated /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/percona-keyring.gpg
1424 [10:35:37] <OpenTokix> jolt: hehe
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1431 [10:38:13] <jolt> alwyn: not sure about the correct way. But if you can get the keyid on the percona key you could just add it to the normal keyring with apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys XXXXXXX
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1442 [10:45:13] <daio> OpenTokix, lookjs like debian has a problem too
1443 [10:45:24] <daio> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)
1444 [10:45:24] <daio> Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to 340.96.
1445 [10:45:32] <daio> how dangerous would it be to install nvidias own linux river
1446 [10:45:34] <daio> its a higher version
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1449 [10:45:41] <daio> replaced-url
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1451 [10:46:23] <OpenTokix> daio: i run the nvidia proprietary and havnet had much trouble.
1452 [10:46:50] <daio> OpenTokix, the problem is that apaprently the one that is in apt is to old to support my card
1453 [10:47:07] <daio> or do you mean directly from nviai them self?
1454 [10:47:32] <OpenTokix> daio: There is alsot he nouveau driver. - I downlaoded the binary installer from nvidia
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1456 [10:47:41] <daio> OpenTokix, won't allow me to use all my screns
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1458 [10:47:49] <daio> its only bringing up my first screen
1459 [10:47:53] <daio> same as freebsd's 'nv'
1460 [10:48:01] <OpenTokix> ok
1461 [10:48:08] <daio> never had so much bloody trouble with an nvidia
1462 [10:48:16] <daio> reason I buy nvidia is to avoid this crap
1463 [10:48:46] <daio> if I have backports enabled
1464 [10:48:53] <daio> how do I find out what version of nvidia-driver its going to try install
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1467 [10:49:38] <eumel> check with apt-cache show beforehand
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1470 [10:50:00] <daio> Filename: pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-driver_340.96-1_amd64.deb
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1472 [10:50:12] <daio> I take it there is no way I can convince apt to install 370
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1474 [10:50:59] <jelly> do you need 370?
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1476 [10:51:02] <daio> yes
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1478 [10:51:16] <daio> root@box:/home/paul/Downloads# nvidia-detect
1479 [10:51:16] <daio> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
1480 [10:51:16] <daio> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)
1481 [10:51:16] <daio> Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to 340.96.
1482 [10:51:16] <daio> A newer driver may add support for your card.
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1486 [10:51:23] <daio> ah sorry
1487 [10:51:27] <daio> forgot about line limit
1488 [10:51:27] <jelly> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
1489 [10:51:29] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-10~bpo8+2; stretch/non-free: 367.44-3; sid/non-free: 367.57-1; experimental/non-free: 370.28-1
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1491 [10:52:16] <daio> so I would need to be on experimental to get access to that driver
1492 [10:52:30] <daio> or at least sid, I imagine 367 would be high enough
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1494 [10:52:49] <jelly> experimental is not a full branch, just crap maintainers put that is _known_ to be broken in some way
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1496 [10:53:07] <jelly> let's see what nvidia-detect says about 10de:1402
1497 [10:53:23] <jelly> [10:17] ~ => nvidia-detect 10de:1402 burek
1498 [10:53:23] <jelly> Checking driver support for PCI ID [10de:1402]
1499 [10:53:24] <jelly> Your card is only supported by the updated drivers from jessie-backports.
1500 [10:53:35] <jelly> try those first, then
1501 [10:53:39] <daio> ok dokey
1502 [10:53:44] <jelly> !jessie-backports
1503 [10:53:45] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb replaced-url
1504 [10:53:54] <daio> apt-get install -t jessie-backports nvidia-driver
1505 [10:53:55] <daio> got it ;)
1506 [10:54:16] <jelly> better to install nvidia-kernel-dkms
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1509 [10:54:32] <jelly> and make sure you have appropriate linux-headers-$(uname -r) in place alreday
1510 [10:54:42] <jelly> something like
1511 [10:54:45] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
1512 [10:54:46] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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1517 [10:55:16] <daio> Setting up nvidia-kernel-dkms (367.44-3~bpo8+1) ...
1518 [10:55:23] <daio> apepars the driver auto drags it in
1519 [10:55:37] <jelly> good, I was not sure about that
1520 [10:55:47] <jelly> my card works fine with nouveau (in stretch)
1521 [10:55:51] <Agiofws> hello
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1523 [10:55:54] <Agiofws> i seemed to have pin pointed out why my skylake on board gfx would not display with debian linux but i need some help it seems to be tyhe monitor that is to blame i suspect it can't handle such high resolution could anyone help me pin point this out ?
1524 [10:56:01] <daio> jelly, so does mine on 1 screen, but I have 3 screens
1525 [10:56:05] <daio> it just won't detect the other 2
1526 [10:56:19] <jelly> daio: did you look at xrandr output?
1527 [10:56:44] <daio> jelly, indeed I just have screen0
1528 [10:56:47] <daio> the other two are not detect at all
1529 [10:57:08] <daio> all three screens are the same make/model
1530 [10:57:16] <daio> so edid obviously works on at least screen0
1531 [10:57:18] <Agiofws> jelly, can i force the monitor to display a certain resolution because booting as is i get the no sognal message on the monitor BUT it does work for example on this monitor
1532 [10:57:31] <daio> ok kernel module built
1533 [10:57:33] <jelly> daio: weird, but not entirely unexpected if you're on default jessie 3.16 kernel and a later card
1534 [10:57:37] <daio> lets reboot and see what happens see you all shortly :)
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1536 [10:57:47] <Agiofws> let me check the specs of the monitor
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1540 [10:59:22] <daio> jelly, and we have all three screens, in the wrong order but I can change that :)
1541 [10:59:36] <daio> now jsut need at neavou (sp?) to the blacklist
1542 [10:59:54] <jelly> daio: that's done by the packaging
1543 [11:00:03] <ebarrett> 'sudo service postfix stop' -> 'Job for postfix.service canceled.' with a non-zero exit code. What does this mean?
1544 [11:00:28] <daio> jelly, ah perfect
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1546 [11:00:44] <unborn> guys is there any program in debian to display my md files (documentation) locally? so I can present them even without internet?
1547 [11:01:08] <unborn> (without installing apache etc)
1548 [11:01:16] <daio> jelly, what application do I want to have a look at to change the 'virtual placement' of the screens them self, I have the screens like this: [2][1][3] and obviously thats a bit of a pita ;)
1549 [11:01:32] <daio> know you can use xrandr to do it I think but I assumed there would be an application to make it sticky somewhere
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1551 [11:02:05] <jelly> daio: xrandr, but if you want the desktop environment to remember the relative geometry you need to use some DE-specific tool
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1554 [11:02:38] <daio> jelly, I could just add it to the startup lines, but thats a touch hacky, any idea what xfce4 uses to do it?
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1556 [11:02:57] <jelly> xorg people do not think it's useful to have permanent settings
1557 [11:03:26] <OpenTokix> I have a xrandr-script that run when I login
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1559 [11:03:40] <daio> OpenTokix, yeah thats what I am thinking I will slap it in xfce4's startup
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1564 [11:05:31] <daio> DVI-I-1 DVI-I-0 HDMI-0
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1567 [11:06:33] <daio> crap now I have 2 cloning each other
1568 [11:06:33] <daio> hmm
1569 [11:06:38] <daio> wonder which is which
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1588 [11:11:02] <daio> nearly there
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1590 [11:11:10] <daio> got 2 screens in the right place
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1612 [11:24:17] <Agiofws> jelly, how can i force a certain res. for screen via grub?
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1616 [11:24:52] <eumel> append vga_mode to grub_cmdline_linux
1617 [11:25:02] <eumel> in /etc/default/grub
1618 [11:25:17] <eumel> and use grub-mkconfig to recreate grub.cfg afterwards
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1621 [11:26:05] <Agiofws> i think grub-update would do it?
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1623 [11:26:21] <eumel> yes, update-grub is a shorthand
1624 [11:26:26] <Agiofws> just vga_mode nothing else?
1625 [11:26:37] * petn-randall kicks missmbob. In the shin.
1626 [11:26:39] <eumel> no, the desired mode you wan't it to display
1627 [11:26:46] <Agiofws> the monitor can do 1280x1025 @75
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1629 [11:26:57] <Agiofws> can i somehow force it to
1630 [11:27:16] <Agiofws> so whats the syntax then?
1631 [11:27:36] <eumel> replaced-url
1632 [11:27:40] <eumel> this site can help
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1636 [11:28:12] <eumel> you have to set vga=829 for 1280x1024 with 32bit
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1639 [11:29:54] <Agiofws> what about 64bit?
1640 [11:29:54] <eumel> you can check which fremebuffer modes are supported with hwinfo --framebuffer
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1642 [11:30:27] <Agiofws> replaced-url
1643 [11:31:00] <OpenTokix> Agiofws: No such thing as 64 bit color
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1646 [11:31:02] <Agiofws> i can check if i've logged in to it via ssh?
1647 [11:31:04] <Agiofws> LOL
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1649 [11:31:08] <Agiofws> thanks OpenTokix
1650 [11:31:16] <eumel> i guess there's no 64-bit color definition out there ..
1651 [11:31:21] <Agiofws> i thought it was architecture
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1685 [11:46:44] <daemon> hey all just for debian installed, all seems be working nice (apologies btw not sure if this belongs here or #xfce) when I open thunar I click 'network share' because I want to connect to the networks nas and it says it 'failed to open /' Operation not supported?
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1687 [11:46:50] <daemon> do I need to compile thunar with samba support or so?
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1696 [11:50:56] <eumel> permission issue?
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1704 [11:52:40] <petn-randall> daemon: Looks at the recommends/suggests of thunar, I think you need something like smbclient for it to work.
1705 [11:52:56] <daemon> petn-randall, ah makes sence
1706 [11:52:56] <daemon> cheers
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1711 [11:57:16] <Agiofws> eumel, does this look ok?
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1714 [11:57:19] <Agiofws> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" drm.debug=0x1e log_buf_len=1M quiet" ?
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1727 [12:01:13] <Agiofws> replaced-url
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1738 [12:05:55] <renka> hello.. i have a problem.. my server was available by its internet domain, but abruptly its not available anymore. now it gives error ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED.. but when i use ping by terminal it has the correct ip adress and gives answer.. what can be the reason?
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1747 [12:10:04] <petn-randall> renka: How are you trying to access it when it fails?
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1749 [12:10:19] <renka> browser
1750 [12:10:24] <petn-randall> renka: 'ping <domainname>' works?
1751 [12:10:27] <renka> yea
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1753 [12:10:31] <renka> very weird stuff
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1759 [12:12:05] <petn-randall> renka: Thinks from the top of my head: There a typo in your browser line, you have an implicit domain that ping uses but your browser ignores.
1760 [12:12:13] <petn-randall> s/Thinks/Things/
1761 [12:12:18] <uniTosch> Is your Browser doing weird caching? Ctrl + Shift + r to reload with clear cache.
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1763 [12:12:46] <renka> problem is.. there are more guys than me having this problem
1764 [12:12:48] <uniTosch> Does curl <URL> work?
1765 [12:12:56] <renka> i check uniTosch
1766 [12:12:58] <petn-randall> renka: In your browser you can press F12 and check the network I/O. Maybe you had a redirect that the browser is caching.
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1768 [12:13:16] <renka> i get 301
1769 [12:13:36] <renka> but at least its not a dns fail
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1779 [12:15:49] <renka> when i do curl -L
1780 [12:15:50] <renka> curl: (6) Could not resolve host: replaced-url
1781 [12:16:17] <renka> uniTosch petn-randall
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1784 [12:17:40] <babilen> renka: That website does not exist
1785 [12:18:02] <renka> it is a registered domain
1786 [12:18:25] <renka> hmm
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1788 [12:18:34] <renka> i think i see the problem
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1790 [12:18:55] <renka> cearaentdecken.de is working when pinging.. but not when i have replaced-url
1791 [12:19:03] <uniTosch> It works now. Sometimes DNS propagation takes some time.
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1793 [12:19:39] <babilen> Not for me
1794 [12:20:40] <uniTosch> Huh, i could swear it loaded a yellow page with an input bar a second ago.
1795 [12:20:45] <renka> its working?
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1797 [12:20:58] <uniTosch> Not anymore.
1798 [12:21:01] <renka> o_O
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1800 [12:21:21] <renka> now!
1801 [12:21:27] <renka> its working again
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1804 [12:22:15] <renka> thank you guys
1805 [12:22:20] <renka> that helped
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1808 [12:23:10] <babilen> I can't open that site, but if you are happy ...
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1810 [12:24:21] <renka> it was because i had an nameserver entry which were replaced-url
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1812 [12:24:30] <renka> but its curious.. TXT is not A?
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1819 [12:28:24] <uniTosch> No, txt is its own type.
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1821 [12:29:06] <uniTosch> A is just for hostname->ipv4 association
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1824 [12:29:55] <renka> but it were happening with this entry
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1836 [12:33:16] <jelly> is there a dns-based letsencrypt client in jessie?
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1838 [12:34:30] <jelly> I'd like to refresh certificates for a restricted https site accessible only from specific address ranges.
1839 [12:34:49] <mlky> fuse doesn't work, i just upgraded to jessie, i tried upgrading the kernel through my vps control panel, but to no avail, can someone help?
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1849 [12:38:38] <jelly> mlky: if your system is inside a container, FUSE can be unavailable or disabled by the provider
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1851 [12:39:09] <jelly> mlky: install "imvirt" and run it (as root), what does it say, which virtualization solution are you using?
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1853 [12:39:19] <mlky> i found a topic on digitaloceans forum where the solution was to upgrade the kernel
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1855 [12:40:07] <mlky> "KVM"
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1860 [12:41:03] <mlky> is the only output from sudo imvirt
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1870 [12:47:30] <mlky> jelly, what does it mean?
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1873 [12:49:13] <jelly> mlky: good, it means you have a full virtualized kvm-based VM. You should be able to use debian's kernel which does have working fuse.
1874 [12:49:24] <jelly> mlky: how does fuse fail?
1875 [12:49:26] <jelly> !ask
1876 [12:49:26] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
1877 [12:49:30] <petn-randall> jelly: Let me know if you find a solution, I also haven't settled yet for my personal best current practice on LE.
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1879 [12:50:11] <jelly> petn-randall: I'm missing context, sorry
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1883 [12:51:45] <mlky> $ sudo modprobe fuse
1884 [12:51:45] <mlky> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'fuse': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
1885 [12:52:07] <mlky> in messages: fuse: Unknown symbol sysfs_remove_mount_point (err 0)
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1894 [12:54:12] <jelly> mlky: you haven't rebooted since the last kernel update.
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1900 [12:55:36] <mlky> jelly i have
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1904 [12:56:08] <halt> Hi Guys, I was looking snoopy but I would prefer script instead as it's play back nicely what I should see, is there any way to add it to bashrc or something to make sure that all new ssh session call it ? ( it's for an interview, I want to watch back what the candidate done )
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1911 [12:59:16] <mlky> i tried running this and rebooting sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64
1912 [12:59:19] <mlky> still no dice
1913 [12:59:45] <mlky> if i reinstall, fuse should work right?
1914 [13:00:03] <mlky> because that seems like the easiest option
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1916 [13:00:32] <jelly> no need to reinstall
1917 [13:00:53] <jelly> mlky: what does "uname -a" say right now?
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1921 [13:02:59] <mlky> Linux raeptiem.dk 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 (2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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1934 [13:08:30] <jelly> mlky: that's not an up-to-date kernel.
1935 [13:09:08] <mlky> it is the newest i could choose in the digitalocean control panel, should i upgrade manually then?
1936 [13:09:37] <Agiofws> is there a newer kernel for debian jessie than 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 which i am using right now it might fix my gfx i issues
1937 [13:09:48] <Agiofws> and how would i install it via command line?
1938 [13:10:09] <jelly> mlky: I have no idea what kinds of shenanigans DO does choosing a kernel, you're supposed to boot the current /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
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1940 [13:10:28] <Agiofws> is there a drm-intel-nightly kernel for debian jessie?
1941 [13:10:30] <jelly> not some random 18 months old thing
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1949 [13:12:18] <mlky> i dont understand jelly
1950 [13:12:54] <mlky> i'll try upgrading the kernel manually
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1956 [13:14:01] <jelly> mlky: show the output of: dpkg -l linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64|tail -n 1
1957 [13:14:31] <mlky> ii linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 amd64 Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
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1961 [13:15:46] <jelly> mlky: that's the current one. Your provider has some unusual boot setup, and boots a much older kernel than what you have installed inside your VM. Ask DO support, or someone who knows their boot process, how to boot the updated kernel that's inside your VM.
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1965 [13:16:51] <mlky> alright, thank you
1966 [13:17:07] <Agiofws> ok guys from #intel-gfx are telling to install replaced-url
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1971 [13:19:02] <Agiofws> jelly, would i be able to compile the kernel on another host and then just copy it to the host machine?
1972 [13:19:24] <jelly> Agiofws: probably
1973 [13:19:40] <ghormoon> hi, how much do debian repo change, I've googled up that if I'd like local mirror, I'd need about 300gb (all+amd64) (400gb with source), but how much I'll need eg. monthly to keep up?
1974 [13:19:47] <iLogic> jelly: you jelly bro?
1975 [13:20:08] <jelly> iLogic: I've been jelly since before the meaning you just used existed.
1976 [13:20:33] <Agiofws> jelly, because i'd like to keep things as debian would can i retrieve from somewhere on the host the mkconfig for the kernel its running
1977 [13:20:38] <iLogic> inorite but it's a fun nick anyways :-)
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1979 [13:21:07] <Agiofws> and then copy that config to the new kernel i want to compile?
1980 [13:21:08] <jelly> Agiofws: just build your custom kernel package anywhere and see how it works
1981 [13:21:43] <Agiofws> yes don;t i have to make xconfig to configure it?
1982 [13:21:49] <ghormoon> also, how much would go apt nuts, if I added two repos and one was up2date (public one) and one few weeks old in case I need to pull something but I don't have good enough internet? (I'm thinking about a repo on external HDD, because sometimes I need something and gprs doesn't do the trick :))
1983 [13:22:01] <Agiofws> to load drivers as modules on in kernel?
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1986 [13:22:18] <Agiofws> or*
1987 [13:22:36] <at0m> ghormoon: maybe look into acng, apt-cacher-ng
1988 [13:22:59] <TomyWork> jelly, iLogic UD lists that meaning since July 27, 2003
1989 [13:23:13] <at0m> ghormoon: if you're looking ar genuine mirroring, that's a LOT of GB's.
1990 [13:23:17] <at0m> s/ar/at
1991 [13:23:25] <Hobbes`> How can I boot the Debian Installer from grub2 installed on the harddisk(the bios is locked/prevents me from changing boot device)
1992 [13:23:46] <Agiofws> use a live cd?
1993 [13:23:54] <ghormoon> at0m: well, not daily, but like every two weeks or so
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1995 [13:24:16] <ghormoon> I need it like twice a year actually
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1997 [13:24:24] <at0m> Hobbes`: replaced-url
1998 [13:24:47] <ghormoon> when we have an event with friends and very bad internet and we're experimenting with something and missing packages
1999 [13:24:55] <Hobbes`> at0m thanks.. checking..
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2001 [13:25:10] <at0m> ghormoon: a mirror doesn't know what you've installed. acng fetches on demand, it's a caching proxy...
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2003 [13:25:25] <ghormoon> apt-cacher-ng would only keep those I've already used somewhere, that doesn't do the trick
2004 [13:25:30] <at0m> ghormoon: pretty usefull if you have x number of machines
2005 [13:25:34] <at0m> right
2006 [13:25:44] <ghormoon> I usually have only laptop on that event
2007 [13:25:51] <ghormoon> but I need to instal some tiools to be able to do sometig
2008 [13:25:55] <ghormoon> and it takes a day over gprs
2009 [13:25:56] <ghormoon> :)
2010 [13:26:01] <at0m> replaced-url
2011 [13:26:15] <ghormoon> I've found this already
2012 [13:26:24] <ghormoon> the question was, if I downloaded this once, how much it will be to keep up
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2015 [13:27:10] <at0m> maybe grab the installer DVD's, they're sorted by popcon results afaik
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2018 [13:28:40] <Hobbes`> at0m it worked! Thanks again!
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2028 [13:34:14] <BrahRah> How can I test if my ssh key is working correctly?
2029 [13:34:29] <BrahRah> I've setup everything correctly I think
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2031 [13:34:36] <BrahRah> but I have a passphrase
2032 [13:34:46] <BrahRah> and I'm still asked for passwords
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2034 [13:35:01] <BrahRah> when I ssh into the computer
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2037 [13:35:48] <at0m> BrahRah: asked for ssh keys pass or for user pass?
2038 [13:35:58] <BrahRah> sec
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2040 [13:36:18] <sunnymolini> Is apt autoremove no longer a thing?
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2042 [13:36:26] <at0m> sunnymolini: it still is
2043 [13:36:28] <BrahRah> oh it askes for the users password
2044 [13:36:34] <BrahRah> strange
2045 [13:36:36] <themill> sunnymolini: apt-get
2046 [13:37:02] <at0m> BrahRah: hmm then it's not using the key. did you add your local id_rsa.pub to the remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
2047 [13:37:03] <BrahRah> PermitRootLogin without-password is set already
2048 [13:37:13] <BrahRah> yes I did
2049 [13:37:16] <at0m> unset that once you're in using keys
2050 [13:37:40] <at0m> bad practice to allow root to ssh in. create a user instead
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2052 [13:38:01] <at0m> ... and then su as user
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2055 [13:38:25] <BrahRah> yes I'll do that soon but first I need to make sure everything is working so I dont lock myself out
2056 [13:38:46] <at0m> keep an ssh session open while you try pubkey authentication
2057 [13:39:11] <BrahRah> I think the tutorial left steps out
2058 [13:39:22] <at0m> so you can confirm pubkey auth works before disabling password login, disabling root login
2059 [13:39:35] <themill> BrahRah: you'd need to explain what you did
2060 [13:39:37] <sunnymolini> themill: ahh, such a big difference.
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2062 [13:39:43] <sunnymolini> themill: thanks.
2063 [13:39:46] <themill> np
2064 [13:40:14] <BrahRah> sec Ill pastebin it
2065 [13:42:14] <BrahRah> replaced-url
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2068 [13:43:43] <themill> dsa keys, how quaint
2069 [13:44:15] <themill> chances are the permissions on .ssh/authorized_keys aren't right -- the ssh-copy-id utility is a good idea
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2071 [13:45:11] <themill> also, which user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys did you add it to?
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2074 [13:45:45] <BrahRah> on the client pc I think
2075 [13:45:56] <BrahRah> but I'm not sure anymore
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2079 [13:46:29] <themill> your use of "client" is rather confusing here
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2081 [13:46:50] <BrahRah> the pc I'm connecting from
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2084 [13:47:02] <themill> that's the opposite meaning of "client" in your paste
2085 [13:47:21] <at0m> "client" is where you ssh user@machine, server is running the sshd
2086 [13:47:27] <BrahRah> SO the client pc is my vos server?
2087 [13:47:31] <BrahRah> vps
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2094 [13:48:29] <Agiofws> would git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm-intel download drm-intel-nightly ?
2095 [13:48:40] <BrahRah> isn't the pc I'm using the client and the pc I connect to the remote-server?
2096 [13:48:46] <at0m> yes
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2098 [13:49:50] <BrahRah> isn't my use correct then?
2099 [13:50:01] <BrahRah> I'm confused now XD
2100 [13:50:19] <themill> That's part of the problem with making up stuff for a pastebin rather than using real commands
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2102 [13:50:46] <BrahRah> themill what?
2103 [13:50:56] <BrahRah> I didn;t make that stuff up
2104 [13:51:09] <BrahRah> that's how I used it exactly
2105 [13:51:15] <themill> "scp .ssh/id_dsa.pub clientUser@clientIP:" is not what you typed.
2106 [13:51:26] <BrahRah> no I replaced the user and ip of course
2107 [13:51:41] <themill> and also got client and server around the wrong way?
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2109 [13:52:06] <at0m> BrahRah: please realize that "PermitRootLogin without-password" allows anyone to ssh root@IP and be instant root on your vps
2110 [13:52:09] <BrahRah> so i need to sue cat id_dsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys on the server?
2111 [13:52:13] <BrahRah> use
2112 [13:52:37] <BrahRah> I know
2113 [13:52:43] <petn-randall> BrahRah: Out of curiosity, what is the IP to your VPS?
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2115 [13:52:52] <BrahRah> but that's the default setting
2116 [13:52:53] <at0m> bah, petn-randall
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2118 [13:53:21] <BrahRah> sry I don't trust you with that info :P
2119 [13:53:49] <BrahRah> I can give you the ip after I'm done with everything
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2121 [13:54:04] <BrahRah> you can test it for security holes then
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2128 [13:56:13] <frzr> Hi yall, i have an itty bitty question, is it possible to use /etc/cron.d as a symlink? to a custom cron.d directory ln -s /custom.d /etc/cron.d ?
2129 [13:56:35] <frzr> the files in the custom.d will be regular, but is cron supporting cron.d as a symlink?
2130 [13:56:40] <BrahRah> gr8 now I'm even worse off
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2135 [13:58:12] <themill> frzr: it would probably work but what would that gain you?
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2137 [13:59:11] <themill> (other than complexity because your setup is different to expectations)
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2140 [13:59:43] <jelly> terabytes of cron jobs.
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2143 [14:00:14] <at0m> BrahRah: so when you're in the server, adduser $youruser. then su -l $youruser, mkdir .ssh, and paste your client's id_rsa.pub into remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. then ssh $youruser@$IP and you are in on $IP as $youruser.
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2145 [14:00:39] <frzr> themill: it would let me have all the cronjobs preconfigured from the mounted volume in the container :)
2146 [14:01:02] <frzr> and persistant
2147 [14:01:21] <BrahRah> ok thx then I did it on the wrong machine
2148 [14:01:21] <themill> If you can make /custom.d then you can make /etc/cron.d/
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2150 [14:01:27] <frzr> otherwise i'd have to store them at two places and sync
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2153 [14:01:51] <frzr> themill: what?
2154 [14:02:07] <at0m> BrahRah: once that works, disable root login and set "PasswordAuthentication no" and "PermitRootLogin no". but make sure you can login as $youruser first.
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2157 [14:02:37] <at0m> ... using just ssh key.
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2159 [14:02:47] <BrahRah> do I do all the steps on the server then?
2160 [14:02:54] <at0m> yes
2161 [14:02:59] <themill> well, no
2162 [14:03:18] <BrahRah> the ssh-keygen -t dsa is on the client then?
2163 [14:03:23] <themill> key generation should be on the client
2164 [14:03:25] <at0m> themill: ssh-keygen is on the client indeed
2165 [14:03:30] <BrahRah> dayum
2166 [14:03:35] <BrahRah> I did that on the server
2167 [14:03:51] <BrahRah> no wonder nothing is working XD
2168 [14:03:57] <themill> Also, you probably want rsa keys not dsa
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2178 [14:08:14] <BrahRah> I've rewritten my guide: replaced-url
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2180 [14:08:23] <BrahRah> I'll be redoing this now
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2182 [14:09:00] <at0m> BrahRah: looks better.
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2184 [14:09:11] <themill> You've still got client/server the wrong way around in the scp/ssh-copy-id command
2185 [14:09:38] <BrahRah> thx fixed
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2193 [14:12:14] <g00se1> chromium-browser is crashing for me on Wheezy replaced-url
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2200 [14:16:03] <at0m> BrahRah: and comment out that PermitRootLogin as soon as you can login otherwise. or, add a root pass at least.
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2202 [14:16:23] <BrahRah> root pass is active
2203 [14:16:31] <BrahRah> wehen I log into server
2204 [14:17:11] <at0m> ok
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2207 [14:20:07] <themill> g00se1: chromium has been unsupported in wheezy for over 18 months now btw
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2215 [14:21:13] <saban> hi. is it possible to make backup image of whole system over internet? i have a running server on site that i need to make backup image so i can duplicate on another server
2216 [14:21:23] <g00se1> I see. Why in that case is it in the repos?
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2223 [14:22:34] <BrahRah> awseome now it askes for the passphrase :D thx!
2224 [14:22:49] <BrahRah> awesome
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2228 [14:24:40] <themill> g00se1: removing packages from the repos doesn't actually make them disappear from user's systems so that often doesn't happen. You can also still use it on trusted content just fine...
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2241 [14:28:25] <g00se1> themill: I won't actually open any content on my system. Not even chrome://settings
2242 [14:28:33] <g00se1> s/I/It
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2245 [14:29:08] <themill> fun
2246 [14:30:11] <at0m> BrahRah: passphrase to your id_rsa ? great
2247 [14:30:20] <BrahRah> yes
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2249 [14:30:28] <at0m> BrahRah: and ssh'ing in as $remoteuser@$remoteIP, right
2250 [14:30:32] <at0m> not as root
2251 [14:30:34] <BrahRah> tes
2252 [14:30:35] <BrahRah> yes
2253 [14:30:50] <at0m> ok :) now disable pwd login and root login :)
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2258 [14:32:28] <BrahRah> Im at it
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2263 [14:35:26] <BrahRah> awseom
2264 [14:35:33] <BrahRah> awesome
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2266 [14:35:59] <BrahRah> now I practice setting up apache2 and php
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2315 [15:03:32] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
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2318 [15:03:55] <NapoleonWils0n> im using xfce and have the gvfs-backends installed but cant mount an smb share with thunar
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2320 [15:05:11] <NapoleonWils0n> using the same set up as on arch, but when i enter smb in thunar just get red circle with a white line thru it
2321 [15:05:20] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Did you log out and in since installing it?
2322 [15:05:30] <NapoleonWils0n> yes
2323 [15:06:17] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Is the package 'gvfs' installed?
2324 [15:06:29] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: dpkg -l gvfs
2325 [15:06:35] <NapoleonWils0n> yes im not that dense
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2330 [15:07:13] <NapoleonWils0n> gvfs-libs gvfs-fuse install with thunar-volman
2331 [15:07:25] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Never implied that, just going through the necessary steps to verify it.
2332 [15:07:50] <petn-randall> s/it/smb with thunar works/
2333 [15:07:59] <NapoleonWils0n> no worry mate, always first thing to check
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2335 [15:08:25] <NapoleonWils0n> i see gvfs-bin isnt installed
2336 [15:09:22] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Do you get an error trying to access a SMB share, or can't you even browse them?
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2343 [15:10:02] <NapoleonWils0n> cant even browse share just get red circle with white line thru it when i enter smb://
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2346 [15:10:45] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: And this is on which release exactly?
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2349 [15:11:10] <NapoleonWils0n> jessie im running i3wm using startx and xfce thunar file manager
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2353 [15:11:52] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Ah, I'm guessing that i3wm isn't autostarting the necessary things
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2355 [15:12:10] <NapoleonWils0n> right, maybe dbus
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2359 [15:12:57] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Yeah, it depends on dbus, so it should be running.
2360 [15:13:41] <NapoleonWils0n> have to start dbus session from startx
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2364 [15:14:43] <NapoleonWils0n> have to check my dotfiles
2365 [15:15:25] <NapoleonWils0n> something like this: source /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/30-bus
2366 [15:15:35] <NapoleonWils0n> in my xinitrc
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2368 [15:16:06] <doebi> as far as i've seen one can configure the colors of ls for any directory and file type. but can i also configure custom colors for filesize, permissions and username ?
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2381 [15:20:54] <frostschutz> doebi, not really, no (see man dir_colors what is available)
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2384 [15:22:42] <doebi> frostschutz: replaced-url
2385 [15:22:52] <doebi> i was thinking about sth like this
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2388 [15:23:55] <doebi> looks like i need another ls, replacing the usual one
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2390 [15:25:33] <frostschutz> doebi, according to the blog you linked to, that's ls++... replaced-url
2391 [15:25:41] <Agiofws> can i follow this tut on how to compile a kernel for debian?
2392 [15:25:43] <Agiofws> replaced-url
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2394 [15:26:37] <doebi> frostschutz: yeah, thx
2395 [15:26:45] <frostschutz> doebi, if you get used to such things you won't feel home in any other shell ;) good luck
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2397 [15:26:59] <rocket__> hi
2398 [15:27:07] <rocket__> i have troubles installing a printer in linux
2399 [15:27:14] <rocket__> that seems to be a problem
2400 [15:27:15] <rocket__> in general
2401 [15:28:42] <teraflops> as in everyone having troubles setting up a printer on Linux?
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2404 [15:29:23] <doebi> frostschutz: well, that happens already. all tools i regularly use are matched in color
2405 [15:29:36] <teraflops> rocket__: that's what you meant?
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2408 [15:29:58] <petn-randall> rocket__: The printers I know all work out of the box. You just need to know which printer manufacturers to avoid (Brother for example). Do you need help with configuring your printer?
2409 [15:30:17] <NapoleonWils0n> trying to figure out how to launch dbus session from xinitrc
2410 [15:30:26] <rocket__> i have this troubles with hp
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2412 [15:30:38] <rocket__> i installed the installer
2413 [15:30:44] <rocket__> but it cant disable smart install
2414 [15:30:46] <rocket__> whatever that is
2415 [15:30:48] <rocket__> i tried shell
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2417 [15:30:55] <rocket__> i tried their scripts they crash
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2419 [15:31:03] <rocket__> when they try to disable smart install
2420 [15:31:12] <rocket__> seems i need windows for printing
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2422 [15:31:25] <teraflops> yeah
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2424 [15:31:30] <Agiofws> what do i follow to compile a new kernel for debian ?
2425 [15:31:35] <Agiofws> this replaced-url
2426 [15:31:50] <Agiofws> or replaced-url
2427 [15:31:51] <rocket__> teraflops, is hp not good on linux?
2428 [15:32:10] <teraflops> rocket__: I was being sarcastic
2429 [15:32:15] <rocket__> me too
2430 [15:32:25] <rocket__> but i dont know what else to do
2431 [15:32:30] <teraflops> rocket__: hp is one of the best choices
2432 [15:32:38] <teraflops> imo^
2433 [15:32:41] <rocket__> nice but it doesnt work
2434 [15:33:01] <towo^work> Agiofws, the 1st one
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2436 [15:33:12] <Agiofws> ok thanks
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2438 [15:33:24] <Agiofws> replaced-url
2439 [15:33:33] <teraflops> rocket__: you're not offering real detailed error messages. you don't even say which printer model is that
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2441 [15:34:19] <rocket__> "HP LaserJet Professional P 1102w
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2444 [15:35:05] <rocket__> fuck!!!
2445 [15:35:07] <rocket__> i did it
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2447 [15:35:12] <rocket__> :D
2448 [15:35:28] <rocket__> teraflops, i dont know why it works now
2449 [15:35:30] <rocket__> no reason
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2452 [15:36:16] <maily> hi again
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2454 [15:36:26] <maily> SSH_AUTH_SOCK
2455 [15:36:29] <rocket__> teraflops, there is no reason why it works now
2456 [15:36:33] <maily> it accepts a socket file - not an ip address, right?
2457 [15:36:45] <maily> I want to specify an ip address (host network, 127.0.0.1) for the ssh agent
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2459 [15:36:54] <maily> is this possible? Can I create a socket file that points to an ip address instead?
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2461 [15:37:02] <maily> hm, I will also ask in ssh channel
2462 [15:37:04] <rocket__> anyway thanks for trying help
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2465 [15:37:43] <jelly> maily: does ssh_config manual says that can be a tcp socket?
2466 [15:37:50] <jelly> say*
2467 [15:37:55] <iwkse> hi, do you know if there's any workaround on this bug? replaced-url
2468 [15:37:56] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2470 [15:38:04] <NapoleonWils0n> really baffled why thunar cant mount smb shares
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2472 [15:38:26] <NapoleonWils0n> dbus is running, thunar-volmand and gvfs-backends installed
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2474 [15:39:03] <jelly> maily: if not, socat can be used to proxy from one to another
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2482 [15:43:51] <NapoleonWils0n> also dont have trach in thunar
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2484 [15:44:00] <NapoleonWils0n> trash
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2498 [15:50:49] <jnhghy> on a server I see spikes of load average that I guess are caused by some php5-cgi processes. I see this processes running under user "1000" instead of replaced-url
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2501 [15:51:25] <at0m> jnhghy: grep 1000 /etc/passwd
2502 [15:51:43] <at0m> 1000 is the first "normal" user
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2506 [15:52:18] <at0m> shouldn't be a regular user name, just a UID
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2510 [15:54:01] <jnhghy> at0m: yup, you are right, its the first regular user
2511 [15:54:07] <BrahRah> has anyone installed virtualmin on deb 8.6?
2512 [15:54:28] <at0m> !anyone
2513 [15:54:28] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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2516 [15:54:39] <jnhghy> at0m: guess now I need to see why this user is starting processes instead of apache2
2517 [15:55:09] <BrahRah> well that is my real question
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2521 [15:55:29] <BrahRah> I was wondering if others get the fatal error during isntall on deb 8 too
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2523 [15:55:39] <BrahRah> or 8.6
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2545 [16:01:56] <jhutchins> .
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2551 [16:02:44] <jhutchins> It's annoying that this channel can not recover from netsplits due to throttling.
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2592 [16:19:06] <jhutchins> .
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2594 [16:19:20] <jhutchins> ! sources.list
2595 [16:19:20] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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2604 [16:22:37] <dStruct> hey guys, how is the wtmp and btmp log rolling handled, I don't have anything related in /etc/cron.* or /etc/logrotate.d yet my wtmp and btmp just rolled over on Nov 1 and now I have a wtmp.1 for example
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2629 [16:34:59] <jhutchins> dStruct: check /etc/logrotate.conf
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2631 [16:35:12] <ZAP11> whats the goodies of the debian 9 version?
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2633 [16:35:26] <jhutchins> dStruct: Also I think there's some info in the ?tmp man pages.
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2635 [16:35:46] <dStruct> jhutchins: oh there we go, thanks
2636 [16:36:17] <dStruct> jhutchins: I noticed my lastlog went blank as well, probably related but I'm unsure how lastlog is generated from wtmp/btmp
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2639 [16:37:09] <dStruct> jhutchins: ultimately the reason I was looking at my wtmp/lastlog in the first place, is I see auth.log entries for replaced-url
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2647 [16:38:41] <gebruiker> anyone got chrome to respect .fonts.conf ?
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2658 [16:45:00] <zh1> what is the difference on using "apt full-upgrade" and "apt-get upgrade"
2659 [16:45:07] <teraflops> gebruiker: neither chromium, because the sandbox
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2679 [16:48:57] <de-facto> Guys im thinking about how to setup an automatic lets encrypt env for cert renewals. Actually im not feeling well about letting the certbot running as root or even as restricted user, its so big and got many functions that i dont want/need. Which are the best alternative clients in your experience to do this?
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2682 [16:49:35] <gebruiker> teraflops: intersting becaue on my ubuntu box it does respects .fonts.conf
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2684 [16:50:07] <teraflops> gebruiker: you mean ~/.fonts.conf?
2685 [16:50:16] <gebruiker> teraflops: yes
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2692 [16:52:55] <teraflops> well, I have no idea but *they* say "Frequently, the answer is due to our sandbox (Windows-specific doc but the concepts apply to all platforms), which attempts to prevent web content from having any access to your system"
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2696 [16:53:29] <gebruiker> teraflops: replaced-url
2697 [16:53:37] <gebruiker> teraflops: somehow it does not work with debian
2698 [16:53:37] <Skullmeat> hi hi
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2702 [16:53:57] <gebruiker> teraflops: you have to scroll down a bit. Would be great if we could get it working on debian
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2705 [16:54:28] <teraflops> gebruiker: also ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated, so it'll stop working eventually, you better use ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
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2707 [16:55:01] <teraflops> gebruiker: scroll where?
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2710 [16:56:01] <gebruiker> teraflops: scroll down to Final results. Somewhat above it explains it a bit more
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2716 [16:57:23] <Skullmeat> so whats up?
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2720 [16:58:08] <g00se1> nss_util.cc is mentioned in stderr when i try to run chromium-browser in wheezy, yet i can't find that file in any apt-file search. Why would i not be able to do so?
2721 [16:58:32] <teraflops> gebruiker: hmm, are you sure it's related to debian (from a 3rd party repo) and not chrome itself? also are you sure it's not related to your ~/fonts.conf file?
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2723 [16:58:59] <JyZyXEL> what can i do if when i run lightdm, i only get a black screen and nothing else?
2724 [16:59:02] <teraflops> gebruiker: tried with chromium? (for testing purposes)
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2735 [17:00:26] <gebruiker> teraflops: i used the same configuration in my $HOME as with ubuntu. All fonts are present. I am not sure if it is related to debian or because of patched ubuntu fontconfig. But it would be nice to get this browsing font experience on my debian box too
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2739 [17:00:43] <gebruiker> teraflops: both debian and my ubuntu machine use the same repo
2740 [17:00:55] <gebruiker> ( chrome repository that is)
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2742 [17:01:20] <teraflops> but the build is the same?
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2744 [17:01:57] <gebruiker> yes both are using google-chrome-stable
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2749 [17:02:53] <teraflops> is the same binary? is the repo line exactly the same in both machines?
2750 [17:03:10] <gebruiker> teraflops: yes
2751 [17:03:14] <teraflops> oh
2752 [17:03:28] <teraflops> mind pasting it? the debian one?
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2755 [17:03:57] <gebruiker> teraflops: deb replaced-url
2756 [17:04:13] <gebruiker> teraflops: wget -q -O - replaced-url
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2758 [17:04:14] <teraflops> sorry I never used chrome hence my question
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2761 [17:04:59] <gebruiker> teraflops: no problem, happy to share information
2762 [17:05:09] <teraflops> yeah
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2764 [17:05:44] <Agiofws> can someone help me out here i'm trying to compile drm-intel kernel and make-deb-pkg gives me this error replaced-url
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2766 [17:05:54] <gebruiker> need to go for a rebot
2767 [17:05:55] <teraflops> gebruiker: well I have no idea of ubuntu, and I didnt know the *patch* fontconfig
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2770 [17:06:11] <teraflops> gebruiker: tried with chromium? on debian machine
2771 [17:06:17] <mutante> i want to run an nmap ping scan (-sP) of my internal network and get the MAC addresses of the scanned hosts. apparently i can run -sP without sudo but then i just dont get the MACs, only if i run the same command as root i get the MAC addresses. does that even make sense? Can i avoid the need for root but still get the MACs?
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2773 [17:07:27] <mutante> maybe i should not call it ping scan unless i use -sn .. hmm
2774 [17:07:51] <gebruiker> teraflops: no not yet, but I use chrome because google has added usefull things to it
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2777 [17:08:22] <swordofalpha> Can someone help me with cloud-related question (in private) , please? :)
2778 [17:09:13] <at0m> mutante: as non-root, it does a TCP ping scan, not ICMP
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2784 [17:11:37] <mutante> at0m: hmm, thanks. it also seems to be different in different nmap versions.. i just want to know if the host is up and the MAC ..looking more
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2791 [17:13:56] <at0m> mutante: yea only ICMP ping scan gives MAC addresses. as root, smth like "nmap -sP -PI -PT -T4 192.168.0.0/24 | grep MAC"
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2795 [17:14:43] <gebruiker> teraflops: assuming you are trying the font improvement suggestion out. Please let me know if it works for you
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2800 [17:17:02] <mutante> at0m: interesting that you say that. that doesn't work for me in nmap 6.47, it runs as a command but there is no MAC in there, even as root. i was just talking to somebody else and they suggested a similar command that works for them and they are on 6.40
2801 [17:17:41] <at0m> ,v nmap
2802 [17:17:42] <judd> Package: nmap on amd64 -- wheezy: 6.00-0.3+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 6.40-0.1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6.47-3+deb8u2; stretch: 7.31-1; sid: 7.31-1
2803 [17:18:29] <at0m> using 7.31 here, but have had same results for long time.
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2806 [17:19:21] <mutante> maybe there could be a networking reason that i dont get it.like ICMP filtered.. hmmm
2807 [17:19:35] <mutante> but i do get the "Host is up" part
2808 [17:19:45] <g00se1> Tried sudo ip neighbour?
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2815 [17:20:41] <mutante> g00se1: good one, i do get MAC adresses there, but what i want to scan is another network (the mgmt network with Dell DRACs)
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2820 [17:22:54] <g00se1> I'm not an ip maven but it might be possible - don't know how though
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2822 [17:23:08] <g00se1> nss_util.cc is mentioned in stderr when i try to run chromium-browser in wheezy, yet i can't find that file in any apt-file search. Why would i not be able to do so?
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2844 [17:28:07] <Agiofws> can someone help me out here i'm trying to compile drm-intel kernel and make-deb-pkg gives me this error replaced-url
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2849 [17:30:44] <Agiofws> olution was to comment the CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS line out from my .config.
2850 [17:30:45] <Agiofws> ?
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2863 [17:37:54] <missmbob> Agiofws: that's because you're not benh@debian.org. dont worry about it.
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2867 [17:38:58] <dStruct> mutante: fwiw, the DRAC modules will show up as online, even when the server is crashed, or power is going to it but the server itself isn't turned on or booted up
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2874 [17:40:32] <mutante> dStruct: yes, the purpose here would be to scan for all existing DRACs and to then change the passwords on them
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2878 [17:42:00] <dStruct> mutante: ahh, it's been a while since I've worked with DRACs but I remember there being SNMP which you may also be able to poll instead of ICMP, might be easier
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2882 [17:43:06] <mutante> dStruct: thanks, will take a look
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2889 [17:45:19] <Agiofws> missmbob, yes but i had to comment out the line ...
2890 [17:45:58] <Agiofws> anyway missmbob will make-deb-pkg make an intrd img ?
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2892 [17:46:08] <Agiofws> because the current kernel has one
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2894 [17:46:51] <ghormoon> hi, can I somehow easily tell less to use utf8 on file? vim opens it correctly, in less i see "ABC" as "^@A^@B^@C"
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2896 [17:47:32] <missmbob> Agiofws: make deb-pkg will
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2898 [17:47:45] <jelly> ghormoon: that looks more like a 2-byte encoding than utf-8
2899 [17:48:00] <jelly> ghormoon: what does "file yourfile" say?
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2901 [17:48:02] <missmbob> Agiofws: arent you the asshole that had me compile 4.9-RC2+ for them and after hours of compiling you just left?
2902 [17:48:18] <ghormoon> jelly: utf-16
2903 [17:48:22] <jelly> right
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2906 [17:48:39] <ghormoon> some shortcut in my brain that made unicode == utf-8
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2909 [17:48:57] <ghormoon> (it's sql export, it offers unicode or ascii)
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2914 [17:49:34] <jelly> ghormoon: convert it to utf8 using recode or iconv, then less and your terminal will deal better with it
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2917 [17:50:03] <Agiofws> missmbob, i'm sorry i just forgot about the whole story had other obligations and then i had to fix the host that i had left in the middle
2918 [17:50:22] <ghormoon> with that size, rather use vim as workaround, I was just curius why this doesnt wotrk. no idea what will happen if I do changes and import the recoded one back anyway
2919 [17:50:24] <jelly> missmbob: did you wait for him patiently the whole time it was compiling?
2920 [17:50:32] <Agiofws> its a monitor issue that i hope i will resolve compiling drm-intel nightly... kernel
2921 [17:50:40] <missmbob> jelly: i call it multitasking
2922 [17:50:43] <Agiofws> missmbob, i'm really sorry
2923 [17:50:59] <Agiofws> missmbob, jelly make deb-pkg will generate up to 5 Debian packages ?
2924 [17:51:09] <missmbob> Agiofws: it's okay. i'm mostly joking and just wanted to call you an asshole
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2926 [17:51:11] <jelly> Agiofws: something like that, yes
2927 [17:51:24] <Agiofws> how long will it take on a 2 core with 4gb of ram
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2929 [17:51:35] <jelly> missmbob: don't do that, I thought you were genuinely angry!
2930 [17:51:44] <missmbob> Agiofws: without ccache of previous build a couple hours
2931 [17:51:45] <Agiofws> okay then but i'm sorry :)
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2933 [17:52:10] <Agiofws> waht if a built it the old way ?
2934 [17:52:22] <missmbob> make-kpkg? it'll probably fail
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2937 [17:52:52] <Agiofws> no i mean not the debian way ...
2938 [17:53:00] <missmbob> the same
2939 [17:53:17] <Agiofws> i don;t remember how i used to compile my own kernels
2940 [17:53:21] <maily> cowbuilder-dist ftw :D
2941 [17:53:31] <maily> like docker, only much older :D
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2943 [17:53:46] <jelly> ghormoon: right, I don't know how many GB you got there
2944 [17:54:22] <ghormoon> the smallest around 2, but bigger might go to like 50
2945 [17:55:03] <ghormoon> I'm debugging broken tfs permissions, seems easiest ould be to grep the db through :)
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2950 [17:55:59] <ghormoon> hm, head shows readeable output, but grep doesn't manage. seems i'll really have to recode :(
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2955 [17:58:24] <jelly> dunno if linux has any UCS2/UTF16LE locales that would make grep and coreutiles work with that encoding
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2957 [17:58:44] <Agiofws> CC [M] drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx4/doorbell.o ):
2958 [17:58:50] <ghormoon> well, I'll try it with recoding and see how many changes will be necessary
2959 [17:58:57] <ghormoon> if few, i'll make that in vim
2960 [17:59:02] <ghormoon> if a lot, that will be a problem :)
2961 [17:59:36] <Agiofws> missmbob, will it generate something line initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 ?
2962 [17:59:44] <ghormoon> gotta go for dinner until the bigger one exports. it already runs half an hour :)
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2964 [17:59:50] <Agiofws> make deb-pkg ?
2965 [17:59:50] <jelly> google basically says iconv -f UTF-16LE -t UTF-8 < myfile.txt | grep
2966 [18:00:22] <ghormoon> iconv file.sql -f utf16 -t utf8 >file_u8.sql did work
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2969 [18:00:31] <ghormoon> for the small one
2970 [18:00:31] <missmbob> Agiofws: if you've done your config stuff already. replaced-url
2971 [18:00:38] <ghormoon> for the big one, i'll need to find enough isk space :)
2972 [18:00:42] * Agiofws thinks that recompiling his own kernel would get rid of many uneeded modules that just sit there in ram or swap
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2975 [18:01:29] <missmbob> it doesn't sit in ram or swap until it's needed (most of which never are). just takes hd space.
2976 [18:02:05] <SerajewelKS> and if it did sit in RAM, what's worth more: the hours of time you'll spend recompiling the kernel, or a few dozen bucks on an extra DIMM?
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2978 [18:02:33] <SerajewelKS> i mean if you want to compile your own kernel for the fun of it, knock yourself out (i used to!)
2979 [18:02:34] <missmbob> hours of recompiling isn't it. for newbie you know it'll break at least 7 times before you get the right stuff built-in
2980 [18:02:36] <Agiofws> dpkg -i ../linux-image-3.2.19_3.2.19-1_i386.deb
2981 [18:02:36] <Agiofws> This command will unpack the kernel, generate the initrd if necessary (see Chapter 7, Managing the initial ramfs (initramfs) archive for details), and configure the bootloader to make the newly installed kernel the default one. If this command completed without any problems, you can reboot using the
2982 [18:02:38] <Agiofws> cool
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2984 [18:03:28] <SerajewelKS> learning and tinkering are fun. but if your end goal is to have more available RAM or disk space, get more RAM or another/bigger disk
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2991 [18:04:56] <SerajewelKS> the only time that it really makes sense to compile your own kernel (outside of fun and learning) is if you need to apply a patch to it
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3012 [18:11:05] <jhutchins> The gentoo people insist that you can optimize it for better performance on your hardware, but the improvements aren't really humanly visible.
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3018 [18:12:50] <SerajewelKS> and i guess in some cases, it makes sense to compile it for embedded systems, where you might have very little storage/RAM due to constraints of the form-factor, or are trying to mass-produce very inexpensive devices
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3078 [18:34:15] <LostSoul> Hi
3079 [18:34:46] <LostSoul> How is it possible that nagios3 works out of box, what I mean is I don't see site config in site-enabled folder but it's still served?
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3086 [18:35:39] <LostSoul> Ok, I see it now :)\
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3091 [18:37:05] <jelly> magic!
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3108 [18:42:34] <LostSoul> jelly: :P
3109 [18:42:39] <LostSoul> Pure magic ;)
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3148 [19:02:28] <gFFto> sup
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3150 [19:02:52] <gFFto> im trying to make an alias, but each time i close the terminal, i need to re-write it
3151 [19:03:00] <gFFto> should i be tryign something other than creating an alias?
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3153 [19:03:27] <somiaj> gFFto: if using bash, put it in .bashrc
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3156 [19:03:43] <gFFto> might be a stupid question, but how do i know if im using bash
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3160 [19:04:20] <somiaj> gFFto: if you don't know, you most like are using bash as in debian you have to do something to change that
3161 [19:04:33] <gFFto> im using terminal emulator
3162 [19:04:38] <gFFto> okay, so im very likely using bash
3163 [19:04:47] <somiaj> bash is the shell
3164 [19:04:51] <gFFto> i see
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3173 [19:07:17] <Agiofws> if make deb-pkg is interrupted do i have to issue it from the beginning? what i mean to say is that will it have to start compiling in the start? is there a way to avoid this because it was interrupted at the last stages
3174 [19:07:26] <gFFto> somiaj: thank you!
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3177 [19:08:27] <somiaj> Agiofws: As long as a make clean isn't run and the part that was intrupted was just the packging part you may not have to wait the whole process.
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3179 [19:08:46] <somiaj> Agiofws: i.e. the make script might see somestuff as done, though its been a long time so only way to nkow for sure is to test.
3180 [19:08:51] <somiaj> Agiofws: what interrupted the compile?
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3186 [19:11:26] <blawiz> how can one fix some gifs not working in imgur
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3188 [19:11:35] <blawiz> in ff/vivaldi
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3205 [19:16:21] <Agiofws> yes BUT make deb-pkg RUNS MAKE CLEAN grr....
3206 [19:16:24] <Agiofws> somiaj,
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3210 [19:18:31] <somiaj> Agiofws: deb packages like to do that. Why was the build intruupted, maybe we can fix this so it wno't get intruttped again.
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3218 [19:20:57] <prasket> hello - can someone tell me if the debian stretch channel is on this server? I tried searching channel lists and did not see it. :(
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3223 [19:22:47] <zykotick9> prasket: #debian-next on the OFTC network (NOT freenode)
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3245 [19:30:43] <prasket> zykotick9, thank you!
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3250 [19:31:42] <DoberMann> hi
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3252 [19:32:48] <DoberMann> i've just find out there seems to be an issue with a security server : host lobos.debian.org mentionned in DNS does repond in ipv4 but not in ipv6
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3255 [19:33:13] <DoberMann> (even in icmp ping or http : same issue)
3256 [19:33:27] <Dagger> Reply from 2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb: time=32ms
3257 [19:33:27] <Dagger> Connecting to lobos.debian.org (lobos.debian.org)|2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb|:80... connected.
3258 [19:33:29] <Dagger> working for me
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3267 [19:37:17] <DoberMann> Dagger: hum, works from antoher box on another ISP :/
3268 [19:37:47] <jas4711> what is a good disk benchmark tool + parameters? i want to compare ssd, hdd, and raid of both for a reasoneble server load (mail+web). i've played with both bonnie++ and fio but depending on parameters i can get almost any performance i want. for example, do i want sync'ing or not? which ioengine for fio? blog posts with inspiration is most welcome :)
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3270 [19:37:56] <somiaj> DoberMann: maybe routing for ipv6 isn't working on the box you are testing.
3271 [19:38:22] <DoberMann> it works ... until some misconfigured hop
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3292 [19:46:06] <Agiofws> can you take a look at this my headless system hangs(which cannot detect the monitor) after this message replaced-url
3293 [19:46:49] <Agiofws> somiaj, thats why it was interrupted replaced-url
3294 [19:47:15] <DoberMann> somiaj: last common hop is 2001:7f8::306f:0:1 which ends to 2001:a78:bb:2::82 only when using lobos
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3297 [19:47:49] <somiaj> Agiofws: headless system running gnome?
3298 [19:48:17] <Agiofws> it does not detect the monitor
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3300 [19:48:25] <Agiofws> monitor ---> no signal
3301 [19:48:34] <Agiofws> so i should kill gnome?
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3306 [19:49:34] <somiaj> Agiofws: Well why are you running gnome if you can't see it? Is this over a vpn? I wouldn't be running a display manager (or DE) on a headless system.
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3318 [19:51:58] <somiaj> Agiofws: sorry I meant vnc (not vpn)
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3326 [19:55:36] <asterismo> hi
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3328 [19:55:46] <asterismo> i'm running some virtual servers in virtualbox
3329 [19:55:58] <asterismo> i'm using debian 8 virtualbox package, 4.3.36
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3331 [19:56:20] <asterismo> should i stick with it or install the virtualbox debian package 5.1... does it worth it?
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3333 [19:56:40] <asterismo> also in terms of security
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3336 [19:57:22] <missmbob> jessie-backports has 5.0.24. i'd use that
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3343 [19:58:01] <somiaj> asterismo: virtual box has no more security support in jessie. You could try backports (though it has no security support either) or maybe switch to qemu-kvm
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3345 [19:58:36] <asterismo> i see
3346 [19:58:47] <asterismo> somiaj: maybe install virtualbox debian package?
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3348 [19:59:08] <asterismo> i cannot migrate to qemu-kvm right now i think
3349 [19:59:29] <asterismo> i have a 1TB LUKS encrypted VDI hard drive in virtualbox
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3352 [19:59:47] <asterismo> i dunno if that is supported in quemu-kvm
3353 [20:00:26] <somiaj> asterismo: I'm unsure what the best case is. The DSA annoucment is only that you won't be getting security support from debian. Using upstreams package means you rely on them for security support
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3356 [20:00:53] <somiaj> backports dno't get security support by default (though matainers sometimes upload newer version when security issues are found)
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3382 [20:10:42] <BitNebula> How reliable would it for me to use stretch? I need nvidia drivers for my current gen card but Jessie doesn't have a new enough version
3383 [20:11:04] <somiaj> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
3384 [20:11:05] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-10~bpo8+2; stretch/non-free: 367.44-3; sid/non-free: 367.57-1; experimental/non-free: 370.28-1
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3386 [20:11:17] <somiaj> BitNebula: the 352.79 version in jessie backports is not enough?
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3388 [20:11:38] <somiaj> BitNebula: streetch is okay for a desktop. The freeze is slowly starting ot take hold and it will only get more relaialbe, but it won't have security support for some time.
3389 [20:12:15] <BitNebula> somiaj, no the new Pascal cards are not supported on 352.79
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3397 [20:18:14] <BitNebula> I'm coming from Ubuntu and I like Debian but I really need this driver for some work I'm going that I need to get done.
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3404 [20:20:51] <somiaj> BitNebula: You may have to backport it yourself if you want to run it in jessie.
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3408 [20:23:21] <BitNebula> somiaj, heh yeah some users attempted to help me do that....didn't really work out
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3420 [20:30:04] <somiaj> BitNebula: yea there really isn't a easy choice. If you wait jessie-backports may get a newer version (if possible)
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3422 [20:30:20] <stefunel> is there a way of upgrading a single package on a system without running any other tasks? like for example anything left over from some packages that are in iF state?
3423 [20:30:52] <somiaj> BitNebula: I use stretch on my desktop. Lack of security support is the biggest draw back, there are still bugs but it runs for the most part and with the freeze approaching it will only get more relaiable (just lack security support until the release)
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3428 [20:31:24] <BitNebula> somiaj, thats the thing I don't have time to wait, I need to do this for a project. Is running on stretch as simple as adding it to my sources.list or is there more to it?
3429 [20:31:28] <somiaj> stefunel: apt-cache policy packagename will tell you what version apt-get install packagename will install, you can install a specific version with apt-get install packagename=version
3430 [20:31:42] <somiaj> !tell BitNebula about jessie->stretch
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3434 [20:32:45] <BitNebula> somiaj, thanks. So if I had jessie-updates, would I change it to stretch-updates?
3435 [20:33:27] <somiaj> yes
3436 [20:33:42] <BitNebula> Cool, thank you. Would downgrading back to jessie afterwards cause problems?
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3444 [20:36:54] <jelly> downgrades are not possible, BitNebula, make a backup of the whole system and restore from that if you need to go back to jessie
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3446 [20:37:41] <BitNebula> jelly, great, thank you. I don't have anything on the system right now and my home is a separate partition so I'll probably just nuke it after I'm done.
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3455 [20:42:20] <stefunel> somiaj: but does that ensure that it won't do anything else than just upgrade/install that specific package?
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3480 [20:50:07] <robert45> hi guys is it possible to expand a software raid5 array without losing data?
3481 [20:50:28] <jhutchins> BitNebula: You might also consider dual boot and a separate install for testing.
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3484 [20:51:33] <jelly> robert45: by adding a new member device? probably, but a) you really shouldn't do it without a working backup in place and b) ask in #linux-raid
3485 [20:51:49] <robert45> alright thanks
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3495 [20:54:36] <jhutchins> Let's hotswap the prod storage drives to test recovery!
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3500 [20:55:58] <grantwu> I'm getting no space left on devices from a sudo apt-get upgrade, but df shows / is 71% used
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3502 [20:56:11] <grantwu> Anyone know what could be the issue?
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3507 [20:59:17] <somiaj> grantwu: is /var in a different partition?
3508 [20:59:33] <grantwu> somiaj: I don't think so
3509 [20:59:51] <somiaj> grantwu: give us the full output of 'df -h'
3510 [20:59:57] <somiaj> grantwu: use paste.debian.net
3511 [21:00:22] <grantwu> replaced-url
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3515 [21:01:16] <nkuttler> grantwu: tune2fs -l /dev/sda9
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3517 [21:02:07] <grantwu> nkuttler: Uh...
3518 [21:02:12] <grantwu> I have a sin to confess
3519 [21:02:15] <grantwu> /dev/sda9 is btrfs
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3521 [21:02:20] <nkuttler> eh
3522 [21:02:20] <Yuurei> i knew it!
3523 [21:02:44] <grantwu> It wasn't *really* my fault that it was btrfs!
3524 [21:02:58] <grantwu> I just didn't object that strenously when my friend chose it
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3532 [21:04:28] <grantwu> Okay, I'm out of metadata
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3534 [21:05:03] <Yuurei> grantwu: I reinstalled from btrfs to ext4 after trying btrfs and getting your problem during a compilation. it's a comon btrfs issue that you have to rebalance your filesystem or this fs full will happen a lot. I think it's described in the faq
3535 [21:05:27] <grantwu> Yeah, I am looking into it
3536 [21:05:34] <grantwu> Will ask again if I get stuck
3537 [21:05:36] <ryouma> O.o you can't just use btrfs like you use ext4?
3538 [21:05:46] <grantwu> No, apparently btrfs is clown fiesta engineering.
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3540 [21:06:10] <ryouma> will it ever be just usable?
3541 [21:06:18] <jhutchins> grantwu: replaced-url
3542 [21:06:30] <jhutchins> grantwu: 14.300 hits on Google.
3543 [21:06:31] <grantwu> jhutchins: Yeah, I saw that, working through that now
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3548 [21:07:59] <jhutchins> grantwu: This is pretty much what I expected, it's the btrfs equivalent of running out of inodes.
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3551 [21:08:15] <grantwu> ERROR: error during balancing '/' - No space left on device
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3557 [21:08:33] <grantwu> I can't wait to switch to ZFS.
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3560 [21:08:57] <Yuurei> grantwu: actually what convinced me to reinstall wasn't just this rebalancing stuff. It's when after a crash I couldn't boot anymore ( -> replaced-url
3561 [21:09:15] <grantwu> Oh I had to recover with live disk already once
3562 [21:09:29] <grantwu> After a hard power off when shutdown was taking >10 minutes
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3564 [21:10:12] <jhutchins> grantwu: rotate the logs, do an apt-get clean all, delete something...
3565 [21:10:22] <jhutchins> grantwu: Free space until you can balance.
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3569 [21:11:04] <jhutchins> grantwu: You probably hit this durning download, clear out the partial download.
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3575 [21:12:55] <Agiofws> replaced-url
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3583 [21:14:15] <grantwu> jhutchins: Any idea how much space I might need to clear?
3584 [21:14:34] <dontknow> backport firefox comes with gtk3 enabled. it looks good
3585 [21:15:18] <jhutchins> grantwu: No clue.
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3588 [21:15:57] <jhutchins> ,v vhrome
3589 [21:15:58] <judd> No package named 'vhrome' was found in amd64.
3590 [21:16:02] <jhutchins> ,v chrome
3591 [21:16:03] <judd> No package named 'chrome' was found in amd64.
3592 [21:16:08] <jhutchins> ,v chromium
3593 [21:16:09] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 53.0.2785.89-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; stretch: 53.0.2785.143-1; sid: 53.0.2785.143-1
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3596 [21:16:17] <Yuurei> grantwu: did you try the "partial balance" ? in the faq too
3597 [21:16:22] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
3598 [21:16:46] <NapoleonWils0n> im using i3wm with xinitrc and exec i3wm
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3600 [21:16:50] <jhutchins> ,v chromium --arch=i386
3601 [21:16:51] <judd> Package: chromium on i386 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 53.0.2785.89-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 53.0.2785.143-1~deb8u1; stretch: 53.0.2785.143-1; sid: 53.0.2785.143-1
3602 [21:17:13] <NapoleonWils0n> i have xfce as well, but i cant mount smb share using thunar from within i3wm
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3607 [21:17:46] <NapoleonWils0n> if i boot into xfce mounting smb shares works
3608 [21:17:57] <Yuurei> ah never mind it's what you tried
3609 [21:18:19] <Agiofws> replaced-url
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3613 [21:19:17] <NapoleonWils0n> cant figure out if the issue is dbus policykit or something else
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3615 [21:20:01] <NapoleonWils0n> if i open thunar in i3wm it has no trash and cant mount shares, if i boot into xfce it works
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3618 [21:20:20] <NapoleonWils0n> trying to figure out whats missing when i use i3wm
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3621 [21:23:17] <Yuurei> NapoleonWils0n: from random googling, I can see that thunar is using gvfs for smb shares. and it's written that when thunar has to start after gvfs. Maybe when you're using i3wm the order isn't respected?
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3625 [21:24:09] <NapoleonWils0n> strange i have same set up working on arch, not sure whats different in debian
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3629 [21:24:47] <Yuurei> no idea, but btw i read this information from an arch page
3630 [21:25:04] <Yuurei> and it even tells about the missing trash
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3632 [21:25:30] <NapoleonWils0n> yes thats what i actuall use on my arch system
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3634 [21:26:17] <NapoleonWils0n> strange this i have the same issue with gnome
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3650 [21:34:09] <Yuurei> NapoleonWils0n: well if you can check gvfs is running, then kill all instances of Thunar and restart it (not sure because of the session parameter) ? then maybe it will behave differently?
3651 [21:34:22] <Yuurei> just to check
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3655 [21:35:10] <NapoleonWils0n> just came across this: exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch i3
3656 [21:35:14] <NapoleonWils0n> for xinitrc
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3658 [21:35:50] <NapoleonWils0n> just wondering if something to do with PolicyKit/ConsoleKit
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3664 [21:38:07] <cosmos> replaced-url
3665 [21:38:11] <cosmos> this here is outdated
3666 [21:38:26] <cosmos> Pepperflash can get used in each browser since a long
3667 [21:38:38] <cosmos> at least in KaOS is that Standard
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3671 [21:41:35] <cluelessperson> I'm getting "rsa modules too small" error from ssh logging into this switch
3672 [21:41:41] <cluelessperson> how can I IGNORE that saying
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3674 [21:41:50] <cluelessperson> fucking annoying that it's blocking
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3683 [21:44:01] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: I would not expect a switch to be running debian.
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3685 [21:44:18] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: You can use multiple -v with ssh for details.
3686 [21:44:44] <cluelessperson> jhutchins, No, it's debian's default ssh config that doesn't allow to continue past the "error"
3687 [21:46:10] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: More likely the switch's configuration, but try with -v -vv -vvv
3688 [21:46:34] <cluelessperson> jhutchins, ssh_rsa_verify: RSA modulus too small: 512 < minimum 768 bits
3689 [21:46:34] <cluelessperson> key_verify failed for server_host_key
3690 [21:46:36] <cluelessperson> client side
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3699 [21:50:53] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: well typing your line in a well known search engine: suggests using ssh protocol v1 as a workaround. then generate a 1024 size key on the cisco device (is it cisco?)
3700 [21:51:23] <jak2000> i have 1 server witha named/bind9 configured, if i want transfer from server 1 to a new server? wich files need copy and modify on new server?
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3705 [21:53:21] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys how do i verify debian .iso file
3706 [21:53:28] <Psil0Cybin> when the homepage does not give me any links to the sha256 sums
3707 [21:53:35] <Psil0Cybin> it just links to a .iso
3708 [21:53:37] <Psil0Cybin> im searching all day
3709 [21:53:59] <cluelessperson> Yuurei, well, doing ssh -1 server results in another error:
3710 [21:54:00] <cluelessperson> Protocol major versions differ: 1 vs. 2
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3712 [21:54:17] <Psil0Cybin> i found
3713 [21:54:18] <Psil0Cybin> replaced-url
3714 [21:54:27] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot find the list of how to verify my download?
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3716 [21:54:33] <Psil0Cybin> i see the guide though..
3717 [21:54:40] <nkuttler> Psil0Cybin: where did you download your image?
3718 [21:54:55] <Psil0Cybin> replaced-url
3719 [21:54:59] <Psil0Cybin> replaced-url
3720 [21:55:24] <Psil0Cybin> i wanna verify that file
3721 [21:55:30] <Psil0Cybin> but have nothing to compare it too
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3723 [21:55:57] <Yuurei> Psil0Cybin: in iso-cd there are for eg SHA256SUMS and SHA256SUMS.sign . the 1st include all sums from the dir, including your iso. the .sign signs the 1st
3724 [21:55:59] <nkuttler> Psil0Cybin: the pages linked from replaced-url
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3728 [21:56:30] <Psil0Cybin> weher
3729 [21:56:31] <Psil0Cybin> are the sums
3730 [21:56:36] <Yuurei> hmu or in some other dir hem
3731 [21:56:38] <Psil0Cybin> sory i cannot find them listed
3732 [21:56:42] <nkuttler> Psil0Cybin: in the dir where your iso is
3733 [21:56:44] <Yuurei> did this this morning mhhh
3734 [21:56:51] <Psil0Cybin> replaced-url
3735 [21:56:52] <Psil0Cybin> ?
3736 [21:56:55] <Yuurei> ah below the description text
3737 [21:57:04] <Yuurei> jsut scroll down a few pages
3738 [21:57:09] <Psil0Cybin> AH
3739 [21:57:11] <Psil0Cybin> ur the best!!
3740 [21:57:18] <Psil0Cybin> i didnt think it would have description text
3741 [21:57:19] <Psil0Cybin> walla
3742 [21:57:24] <Psil0Cybin> **hits head**
3743 [21:57:37] <Psil0Cybin> your the best guys
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3746 [21:58:54] <Emil> Hey
3747 [21:58:56] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: well ... i'm a bit clueless. install a very old version of debian to get an old ssh version that would allow a small key?
3748 [21:59:11] <Yuurei> in a lxc container a vm or whatever...
3749 [21:59:11] <Emil> Is pcre2 available for jessie?
3750 [21:59:13] <cluelessperson> Yuurei, that's moronic.
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3752 [21:59:16] <Emil> I see it is in unstable
3753 [21:59:23] <cluelessperson> Yuurei, you aren't, having to do that is.
3754 [21:59:29] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: well the goal is to upgrade the key on the switch
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3756 [22:01:21] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: did you try putty? it's a debian package (too)
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3758 [22:01:55] <cluelessperson> Yuurei, this is a headless production system
3759 [22:01:59] <Yuurei> heh
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3761 [22:02:17] <Yuurei> just tunnel through it?
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3773 [22:05:29] <MadDash> hi
3774 [22:05:49] <MadDash> Has anyone used IspConfig before? (It's based on debian)
3775 [22:05:50] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: or you can't tunnel either? (that would be a good security setting, but one more hindrance...)
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3794 [22:10:40] <Stadtpirat> What is the reason /tmp is cleared after reboot?
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3796 [22:11:55] <Stadtpirat> mount does not show that /tmp is a tmpfs and `df /tmp` shows that /tmp is simply mounted on /
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3801 [22:13:16] <Yuurei> Stadtpirat: /etc/init.d/checkroot-bootclean.sh or /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh
3802 [22:13:34] <Stadtpirat> Ohhh, it's a init script? Wow thanks.
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3804 [22:14:04] <Emil> HEy
3805 [22:14:14] <Emil> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
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3808 [22:15:07] <Emil> Any pointers? Using the first few recommended solutions from google don't help
3809 [22:15:23] <jmcnaught> !bat
3810 [22:15:23] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
3811 [22:15:33] <jmcnaught> Emil: ^^^ can you provide this information?
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3817 [22:16:52] <Emil> sure
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3824 [22:22:54] <Yuurei> cluelessperson: final clue: recompile (obviously not on the headless production server) a temporary package with SSH_RSA_MINIMUM_MODULUS_SIZE changed, then fix the key on the switch
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3826 [22:22:56] <Emil> is typescript output from script okay?
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3828 [22:22:59] <Emil> jmcnaught: ?
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3837 [22:27:19] <Stadtpirat> I have an issue. I run a php-fpm worker with the chroot-option to /var/replaced-url
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3839 [22:28:12] <Emil> jmcnaught: replaced-url
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3853 [22:32:28] <Emil> jmcnaught: any help?
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3860 [22:34:45] <jak2000> jmcnaught any advice?
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3870 [22:40:03] <Yuurei> Emil: readline6 is the one blocking, what happens if you want to install it (and you can go on with the next blocking one...) ? also sometimes first upgrading packages will help removing them later
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3875 [22:41:10] <Emil> Yuurei: I already tried update and upgrade
3876 [22:41:51] <Emil> Lemme paste the results
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3878 [22:41:55] <Emil> link*
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3883 [22:42:48] <Emil> Yuurei: replaced-url
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3892 [22:46:55] <Yuurei> Emil: I asked about installing libreadline6 not removing. Just what apt-get complains about ... removing your packages trigger some upgrades. Surely because you have other package sources.
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3894 [22:47:10] <Yuurei> triggers*
3895 [22:47:44] <Yuurei> or gnupg..
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3897 [22:47:58] <Yuurei> oh
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3899 [22:48:31] <Emil> Yuurei: I also tried update and upgrade and they finished just fine
3900 [22:48:37] <Yuurei> Emil: oh actually why do you want to remove those packages in the first place?
3901 [22:48:48] <Yuurei> Emil: they seem quite important
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3903 [22:48:58] <Emil> Yuurei: libpcre3?
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3905 [22:49:29] <Emil> I just installed them, but hmm, perhaps it was just the debug symbols I installed
3906 [22:49:40] <Yuurei> yes
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3908 [22:50:10] <Emil> What's a random package I could try to install
3909 [22:50:12] <Yuurei> Emil: keep libpcre3 it's priority required
3910 [22:50:31] <Emil> Yeah, good point
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3912 [22:51:05] <Emil> Welp, perhaps there was never a problem to begin with
3913 [22:51:09] <Emil> Thanks for helping me out
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3916 [22:51:45] <disi> how do i create an NFS export for Debian Jessie? no luck with this replaced-url
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3922 [22:52:27] <crash_> disi: have you tried what the wiki said? :)
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3924 [22:52:42] <Yuurei> Emil: it could have asked the-very-long-phrase-you-have-to-type before complaining about breaking dependencies...
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3927 [22:53:26] <disi> crash_: ...yes, some of the commands did not work (namely around portmap - which i dont remember having to use the last time i did this a long time ago)
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3933 [23:01:34] <crash_> disi: put in the info you need in exports file under /etc and run systemctl restart nfs-kernel-server it should work
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3935 [23:02:20] <disi> crash_: worked like a chram, thanks!
3936 [23:02:28] <disi> charm*
3937 [23:02:58] <crash_> disi: nice :)
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4023 [23:39:10] <Arahael> On the command line, is it possible to remap caps to ctrl?
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4026 [23:39:54] <Arahael> I think it's probably not possible as I want to remap a bluetooth keyboard, so that when I've ssh'ed in from android to a debian system, I can hit caps, and it is interpreted as ctrl.
4027 [23:39:58] <ecksun> yes, I have done just that with this .Xmodmap file
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4029 [23:40:16] <ecksun> replaced-url
4030 [23:40:18] <Arahael> ecksun: I mean, *just* for the command line, effectively.
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4032 [23:40:26] <ecksun> oh, just for the command-line
4033 [23:40:40] <Arahael> ecksun: I don't think android lets me do physical remaps.
4034 [23:40:52] <ecksun> cant you just change the keyboard layout?
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4038 [23:41:59] <Arahael> ecksun: I don't think I can, no.
4039 [23:42:09] <nmschulte> Does `x-replaced-url
4040 [23:42:14] <Arahael> ecksun: I mean, how would I?
4041 [23:42:15] <ecksun> why not? arent there plenty of keyboards for android?
4042 [23:42:25] <Arahael> nmschulte: It uses the "alternatives" system.
4043 [23:42:31] <nmschulte> Is there an abstraction/encapsuation/semantic I can/should use for a "user-pref" version of `x-replaced-url
4044 [23:42:35] <ecksun> moreover, caps, as well as ctrl, are modifier keys, I dont think they are sent over ssh until you press another key
4045 [23:42:39] <Arahael> ecksun: Oh, ha. No, this is a physical bluetooth keyboard.
4046 [23:42:45] <nmschulte> Arahael: That "system" is system-wide, right?
4047 [23:42:52] <ecksun> Arahael, oh, missed that
4048 [23:43:02] <nmschulte> i.e. I need to be root in order to update it, and it updates for all users?
4049 [23:43:06] <Arahael> nmschulte: It's implemented using symbolic links, for the most part, so yes.
4050 [23:43:30] <Arahael> nmschulte: But there's a simple, elegant UI for it (for command line junkies, anyway)
4051 [23:43:56] <nmschulte> Arahael: CLI junkies wouldn't want the UI anyway, right? :P
4052 [23:44:03] <nmschulte> oh, not GUI.
4053 [23:44:13] <nmschulte> I'm familiar with the alternatives system. Thanks Arahael
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4055 [23:44:21] <Arahael> nmschulte: That's it. :)
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4057 [23:44:49] <nmschulte> xdg-open... that's just as "low-level" right? system-wide, not per-user.
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4059 [23:45:56] <Arahael> nmschulte: I'm not familiar with the xdg system. ;)
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4062 [23:47:04] <nmschulte> Arahael: np -- ArchWiki looks to have a good overview of the various common systems: replaced-url
4063 [23:47:58] <teraflops> nmschulte: xdg-open looks at ~/.local/share/applications (if exists)
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