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3[00:00:42] <skokkk> darkstat -i venet0 -p 666 -b 154.xxx.xx.xx
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9[00:02:07] <skokkk> I am trying to access it via web
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11[00:02:31] <TomTomTosch> that is running on xen or on a vps?
12[00:02:36] <skokkk> vps
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14[00:03:04] <TomTomTosch> and you try to access it with 154.xxx.xx.xx:666 ?
15[00:03:09] <skokkk> yes
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17[00:03:22] <jeltz> Why you guys helping Satan
18[00:03:23] <jeltz> ?
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21[00:04:02] <skokkk> replaced-url
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26[00:05:17] <TomTomTosch> sry, no idea.
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40[00:07:57] <boxrick1_> I am currently trying to get a GPT partition working with MDRAID / LVM and really struggling, would anyone be able to have a look at what I have?
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42[00:09:05] <skokkk> screw it.. ntop here I come
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153[00:52:26] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
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155[00:52:50] <NapoleonWils0n> vim-gnome for gnome desktop right and not vim-gtk
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189[01:05:08] <boxrick1_> Can someone help me convert the following pre-seed into MDRAID?
190[01:05:09] <boxrick1_> replaced-url
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194[01:05:40] <boxrick1_> raid 1 in particular
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375[02:33:42] <stoned> ,v snapd
376[02:33:43] <judd> Package: snapd on amd64 -- sid: 2.0.8+1
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477[03:27:36] <scrapcode> I'm trying to install debian via USB using the non-free ISO and it's still not finding iwlwifi drivers for my lenova
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484[03:30:35] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: can you use ethernet during the install, then figure out the wifi firmware after the first boot?
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494[03:34:19] <scrapcode> I was hoping not to, if it's something simple. I figured with the iwlwifi *.deb file on the usb drive it'd find it but it's not
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497[03:35:16] <th0r> scrapcode, if you can download it to another machine and put it on another usb drive, the package is here replaced-url
498[03:35:37] <scrapcode> i was hoping i wouldnt run into these issues but already this and my touchpad isnt working =/
499[03:35:42] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: it usually works. if your laptop has an iwlwifi device that came out after jessie was released, then jessie won't have the firmwares for it. th0r's suggestion is solid
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509[03:38:14] <scrapcode> i don't think that's the case here either, but thanks.
510[03:38:30] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: what model is it?
511[03:38:41] <scrapcode> t520
512[03:39:30] <scrapcode> it's like 5 years old i believe
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514[03:40:02] <allizom> scrapcode: I think you should unpack the firmware outside the .deb to have it recognized on the usb drive
515[03:40:13] <jmcnaught> allizom: no
516[03:40:33] <potus> scrapcode: thinkpad?
517[03:40:38] <scrapcode> yes
518[03:40:46] <jmcnaught> you don't need to unpack the .deb files. the installer looks for .deb files and loose firmware files
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520[03:40:56] <allizom> my bad, I just read the manual and it says to do so
521[03:40:59] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: i meant the model of the wifi card
522[03:41:04] <potus> scrapcode: we on same laptop .. im running debian now.
523[03:41:11] <scrapcode> jmcnaught, no idea
524[03:41:33] <scrapcode> intel
525[03:41:33] <potus> scrapecode: dpkg -i /mount/usb/../iwlwifi.deb
526[03:41:39] <potus> reboot and you should be set
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530[03:41:54] <jmcnaught> that's not going to work in the installer
531[03:42:03] <scrapcode> i tried that using the secondary term in installation but it didn't work
532[03:42:06] <potus> do it after install;
533[03:42:17] <th0r> if I remember right, the installer asks if you have drivers on another medium
534[03:42:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: in that other terminal, can you try "lspci -nn | grep -i net" ?
535[03:42:29] <potus> th0r: yes it does, i answer no and carry on.
536[03:42:31] <scrapcode> potus, i won't have issues after that... but it's a netinst lol
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538[03:42:49] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: and then come back with the model and pciid that looks like [abcd:1234]
539[03:43:12] <potus> scrapcode: install the xfce live cd version, to give yourself a better set of tools to start, then the dpkg install will work without internet.
540[03:43:37] <scrapcode> 8086:0085
541[03:44:46] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: that is the exact same model that i have, the firmware iso should work. Are you using this image? replaced-url
542[03:45:13] <scrapcode> jmcnaught, yes.
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545[03:45:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: how did you copy it to USB?
546[03:45:30] <scrapcode> i confirmed the files are in /firmware
547[03:45:49] <scrapcode> using rufus on win.
548[03:46:06] <jmcnaught> !rufus
549[03:46:06] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
550[03:46:16] <jmcnaught> !win32diskimager
551[03:46:16] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
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553[03:46:40] <scrapcode> ah. nice.
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555[03:46:42] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: please try preparing it again with win32diskimager instead of rufus. rufus and other programs like it are known to cause problems
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558[03:47:13] <scrapcode> thx
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561[03:47:52] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: good luck. i have an X220, everything works out of the box
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566[03:50:15] <scrapcode> yeah I had read good things about these thinkpads and compatability which is a big reason i went with it
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570[03:50:32] <scrapcode> thanks for the help. I'll check back in with the results in case something like this comes up again.
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576[03:53:29] <scrapcode> That did the trick, it seems. Thanks!!
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585[03:56:44] <scrapcode> jmcnaught++
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587[03:57:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: cheers, enjoy Debian :)
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590[04:01:04] <syntaxity> Hello
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597[04:03:46] <syntaxity> Hello
598[04:03:58] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: hello. Do you have a Debian support question?
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600[04:04:14] <syntaxity> I'm not understanding this
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602[04:04:51] <syntaxity> Can anyone read my message?
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604[04:05:00] <syntaxity> I'm not sure this is working
605[04:05:19] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: you have reached a tech support chat for Debian. If you do not need support and just want to chat, you could "/join ##chat"
606[04:05:55] <syntaxity> how do i set the nickserv...<password> <email> stuff>
607[04:06:18] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: support for this IRC network is in the #freenode channel
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614[04:07:42] <syntaxity> I'm new to all this
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616[04:08:00] <syntaxity> I haven't figured out anything, even spoofing and wifi cracking
617[04:08:06] <syntaxity> I need serious help
618[04:08:18] <boxrick1_> Can anyone help me with a preseed RAID1 GPT volume. Really struggling to get it working
619[04:08:23] <boxrick1_> Spent literally hours on it
620[04:08:37] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: this is not a hacker channel. if you need help with IRC, please "/join #freenode" otherwise please be quiet.
621[04:09:21] <syntaxity> Sorry, but I'm confused. HOw do I join a chat channel?
622[04:09:45] <boxrick1_> replaced-url
623[04:09:47] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: you type "/join #freenode" into the place you just typed your question.
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648[04:22:02] <missmbob> without quotes
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654[04:23:08] <sudosudosudo> I'm looking at getting a new machine for travel purposes. I'll be running debian on it and programming on it. Does anyone know of any solid machines out right now that are inexpensive?
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656[04:24:13] <sudosudosudo> Any advice would be much appreciated
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659[04:26:53] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: i generally get the most i can afford from refurshied thinkpads. replaced-url
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661[04:27:00] <KingsQuest> if Microsoft could never be GPL2, but cannot get rid of it make sense it messes everything up for future kernels is the reason we deserve chromium-browser on older debians is because we deserve posix ? squeezy ? LouISE E :D
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664[04:27:42] <KingsQuest> Microsoft could never keep ubuntu. its GPL2. but they cannot take it away
665[04:28:04] <KingsQuest> thats my support question in the form of a suggestion
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669[04:28:51] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: I was thinking about the thinkpad. Do you happen to have any recommendations on the model?
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672[04:29:05] <valdyn> !confuse KingsQuest
673[04:29:06] <dpkg> No, them was our snake today, KingsQuest? Breeches of the Democracy of Mongolia with extra cheese.
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678[04:30:18] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: you'll generally be fine with anything thinkpad. hard to say since i don't know you're budget. just take a look at their options
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680[04:31:46] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: I just came into 700$. I was thinking about in that range or less.
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682[04:32:59] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: you might have to look around but a refurb t460 would be nice
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685[04:34:32] * KingsQuest is away: with OpenBSD lowest
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689[04:35:24] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: Thanks for the advice. I will look around. I appreciate you.
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692[04:36:07] <pdo_fn14> Hah, my .odt file get corrupted?.
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695[04:36:23] <pdo_fn14> it's possible caused by dirtycow bugfix?.
696[04:37:04] <pdo_fn14> fortunately, libreoffice can fix it.
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726[04:50:29] <iateadonut> i'd like to have ssh server -e "tail -f /apache/error_log" auto-run in a window when i login to my localhost. is there a good program for that, that would only show the tail -f out put in a window and auto login through ssh and auto execute the command, and only stop when the window is closed?
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732[04:52:39] <th0r> iateadonut, there used to be something called roottail, see if it is still available (OLD knowledge)
733[04:53:07] <th0r> iateadonut, it won't put it in a terminal, it puts it on the desktop overlaid on the wallpaper
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735[04:54:00] <iateadonut> thanks. that's the kind of thing i was looking for
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738[04:56:28] <jmcnaught> iateadonut: which window manager or desktop environment are you using?
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741[04:58:08] <th0r> iateadonut, it is called root-tail, and is installing now so it is in the jessie repos
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744[04:59:59] <iateadonut> KDE
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746[05:00:15] <iateadonut> yes, i see; thank th0r
747[05:00:45] <th0r> iateadonut, there's something to be said for old....in software and people <smile>
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749[05:01:16] <iateadonut> for now i'm doing this: ssh -t server "tail -f /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log" - i'm going to look for ways to have a tiny display with maybe two lines running at all times on top of all my other windows.
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751[05:01:28] <iateadonut> i never look at my desktop.
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753[05:01:42] <th0r> now you have a reason to
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757[05:03:46] <SamSagaZ_> guys, with apt-get purge remove the installed app and some conf files, is possible to force to delete the used files too? for example if i purge apache i want to delete the /var/replaced-url
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760[05:04:15] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: purge all installed apps? reinstall
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762[05:05:07] <pingfloyd> SamSagaZ_: is /var/replaced-url
763[05:05:07] <SamSagaZ_> want to remove all the installed apps and conf files, because after install for example apache+php again get some problems :/
764[05:05:12] <SamSagaZ_> pingfloyd,
765[05:05:13] <SamSagaZ_> no
766[05:05:18] <SamSagaZ_> is not empty
767[05:05:22] <pingfloyd> that's why it didn't remove it
768[05:05:27] <pingfloyd> as it should behave
769[05:05:45] <missmbob> it'll never delete files the user put there
770[05:06:28] <pingfloyd> only thing apt should ever remove is files that the package installed providing they're not changed
771[05:06:28] <SamSagaZ_> i know is not possible to force to remove it? for example apt-get purge apache2 dont remove /etc/apache2 because inside i have conf-available and mods-available
772[05:06:57] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: no. i wasn't kiding. reinstall or start manually deleting shit. i'd do the first
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777[05:07:33] <SamSagaZ_> missmbob, you say reinstall the Debian or run apt-get install --reinstall ? :D
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779[05:07:56] <missmbob> reintall debian
780[05:08:00] <pingfloyd> SamSagaZ_: short answer is you should just leave it be
781[05:08:02] <missmbob> reinstall*
782[05:08:03] <SamSagaZ_> i cant reinstall debian because its an remote box,
783[05:08:06] <SamSagaZ_> ok
784[05:08:07] <SamSagaZ_> :/
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786[05:08:11] <pingfloyd> what are the file hurting?
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788[05:08:13] <missmbob> that means nothing. i do remote installs all the time
789[05:08:15] <pingfloyd> files*
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794[05:09:51] <SamSagaZ_> missmbob, you do it over kvm or something like that?
795[05:10:09] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: usually yes
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800[05:10:14] <SamSagaZ_> i see
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816[05:17:11] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: why not just purge the packages?
817[05:17:18] <jmcnaught> !confnew
818[05:17:18] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
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820[05:17:24] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: or do that ^^
821[05:17:26] <missmbob> that's not what he said he wanted
822[05:17:32] <missmbob> conf isn't the problem
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824[05:18:03] <missmbob> he wanted it to automatically delete all the stuff he put places. like in /var/replaced-url
825[05:18:21] <SamSagaZ_> jmcnaught, i used apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install and dont get good results
826[05:18:26] <SamSagaZ_> still getting some problems
827[05:18:38] <SamSagaZ_> btw, now i purged all the packages that was getting problems
828[05:18:42] <SamSagaZ_> will try to install it again
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830[05:18:56] <SamSagaZ_> (will install using --force-confnew again)
831[05:19:18] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should be able to purge the packages, then delete /var/replaced-url
832[05:19:32] <SamSagaZ_> ok
833[05:20:05] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should also consider using etckeeper
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835[05:21:07] <SamSagaZ_> another question, first time that i installed Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL.. and menu was displayed with some questions.. after remove it and install it again, no displayed again.
836[05:21:28] <SamSagaZ_> i want to clean/purge all the packages to try to get these menu again...
837[05:21:32] <missmbob> you can dpkg-reconfigure foo to display them again
838[05:21:35] <SamSagaZ_> someone know if i can force it?
839[05:21:36] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you generally don't reinstall to reconfigure, you use "dpkg-reconfigure package"
840[05:21:40] <SamSagaZ_> oh
841[05:21:42] <SamSagaZ_> thanks guys!
842[05:22:34] <SamSagaZ_> after purge recommend me to use apt-get install or apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install will be better?
843[05:22:55] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: purge removes conf files (that haven't been locally modified)
844[05:23:27] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should really read a few of the documents here: replaced-url
845[05:23:41] <SamSagaZ_> ok, thanks!
846[05:23:57] <jmcnaught> it all gets easier when you have a foundation
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852[05:27:47] <SamSagaZ_> nice, looks like now are installing everything OK!
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855[05:28:24] <SamSagaZ_> for example last time after remove/reinstall mysql i get no /etc/mysql/my.cnf, now after install mariadb get the conf file :)
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877[05:44:22] <missmbob> if i do xferlog_enable=YES in /etc/vsftpd.conf...my understanding is it should create a log at /var/log/vsftpd.log, correct?
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882[05:45:56] <missmbob> i dont have to touch ftp often so i'm rusty here. don't see why it's not creating a log.
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939[06:27:44] <KingsQuest> btw, linux rewins posix from oracle. systemd init busybox package of theirs was stolen and GPL2. fairs fair. and there's 6 linux packages. thats kewl man. that means rootkits and things like that -- with absolute no errors like wayland hack, is the only legal option for this. we've all seen bloopers actually blunders in things like bash on debian based os like ubuntu
940[06:29:04] <KingsQuest> that was microsofts win for Ubuntu and arch
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945[06:30:30] <KingsQuest> furthermore microsoft did it anyway, and it stuck. -- because they have to know the law, because i am a citizen, and they were all federal
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947[06:31:22] <MichelleBachelet> @@@@ J@IN #wikimedia-ayuda @@@@
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952[06:34:04] <KingsQuest> please forgive me but it debian appreciate this would it honor me for a kernel upgrade that gives me 6% boost that i gave to centos. thanks. i'm not ever sure if it does turbo boost, and i'm scared to find out. i don't want to burn out my cpu.
953[06:34:20] <KingsQuest> it supports it and its enabled. i don't dare set anything to performance, or one other thing i forgot.
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961[06:43:16] <sm00th> what kernel was it?
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1025[07:24:32] <klowny_> Anyone know how I can find the exact location of my network drives on Raspbian to add to my Plex server library?
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1029[07:25:04] <missmbob> !raspbian
1030[07:25:04] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
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1034[07:25:57] <klowny_> It's unfortunate raspbian irc seems dead. :(
1035[07:26:05] <missmbob> it is unfortunate
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1037[07:26:08] <missmbob> !based on debian
1038[07:26:09] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
1039[07:26:13] <missmbob> "even if"
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1042[07:28:17] <klowny_> lol
1043[07:28:49] <missmbob> wasn't meant to be funny :P
1044[07:28:58] <klowny_> Yeah, it's more sad.
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1046[07:29:18] <klowny_> Linux has pretty much always been like that though, no matter what distro you try to get help with.
1047[07:29:45] <missmbob> yes. always go to the proper place. we couldn't help if we wanted to. like the bot said, we cant know what they changed.
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1051[07:30:51] <klowny_> Yeah. Raspbian is so far from Debian. Practically Windows or iOS.
1052[07:30:56] <missmbob> it'd be like asking for bash help in a windows channel since you can get bash in windows
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1054[07:31:36] <missmbob> klowny_: you don't have to understand it. just respect that it's the wrong place.
1055[07:31:44] <klowny_> The point is you TRIED. That's all that truly matters.
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1057[07:31:59] <missmbob> klowny_: the point is you're offtopic. /topic
1058[07:32:03] <klowny_> Never said it wasn't.
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1060[07:32:56] <jmcnaught> klowny_: if #raspbian is dead you can also try ##linux
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1065[07:34:23] <klowny_> jmcnaught: probably just get a tiny windows build or something. I should have known better. Getting help with Linux distros is like reading a book with half the pages torn out.
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1068[07:37:08] <missmbob> i wonder if kali users would go ape if i said i was using debian and demanded their help.
1069[07:37:11] <missmbob> c'mon.
1070[07:37:30] <missmbob> but kali us based on debian. it's the same
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1104[07:51:54] <MichelleBachelet> @@!!@@ J@IN #wikimedia-ayuda @@!!@@
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1149[08:12:17] <spamming> hello
1150[08:12:24] <candidat__> hello pork
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1152[08:12:35] <jim> hi
1153[08:13:12] <spamming> jim thats rude
1154[08:13:19] <spamming> you greet people by name
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1156[08:13:50] <jim> what's your name?
1157[08:13:54] <spamming> spamming
1158[08:14:02] <spamming> nevermind dax fixed it
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1160[08:14:09] <spamming> i spammed the word spamming on #freenode
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1163[08:14:40] <spamming> until sigyn considered it spam
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1166[08:14:59] <spamming> so saying "spamming" was kill+kline if sigyn was in the channel
1167[08:15:10] <spamming> so I wanted you to say my nick
1168[08:15:13] <spamming> and get klined
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1171[08:15:38] <awal1> !ops spamming flooding/spamming
1172[08:15:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: awal1 complains about: spamming flooding/spamming
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1174[08:15:44] <spamming> but dax (staffer) got /kill by sigyn and now he came back and fixed it
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1177[08:16:00] <dax> (i didn't touch it)
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1179[08:16:09] <spamming> really?
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1181[08:16:38] <jim> I just didn't believe that was your name
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1192[08:21:33] <habs> When I do "sudo apt-get build-dep gcc-5", why do I get the message "E: Build-Depends dependency for gcc-5 cannot be satisfied because the package gcc-6-base cannot be found"? Why would gcc-5 require gcc-6?
1193[08:21:55] <somiaj> habs: what deb-src are you using?
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1196[08:24:01] <habs> somiaj: I'm trying to build the package from source because there's no available version for my architecture in the jessie repos. Here is my sources.list: replaced-url
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1200[08:24:46] <habs> So I believe based on that I am using the stretch deb-src for gcc-5.
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1204[08:27:13] <ransur0t> habs: canadiens fan?
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1207[08:29:05] <habs> ransur0t: Haha sorry to say it doesn't have to do with the hockey team, I didn't know that when I made the nick
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1212[08:30:08] <jim> hi... which rt kernels has the CVE-2016-5195 patch been applied to?
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1214[08:30:52] <ransur0t> habs: :)
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1225[08:38:46] <SymbioticFemale> i just installed packages without verification. how screwed am i?
1226[08:38:51] <SymbioticFemale> over tor
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1228[08:39:11] <SymbioticFemale> i wasn't paying attention and "y" without reading "we cannot verify"
1229[08:39:21] <SymbioticFemale> damnit
1230[08:39:24] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: where are the packages from?
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1234[08:39:41] <SymbioticFemale> one sec
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1237[08:40:10] <SymbioticFemale> damnit. i was hoping .onion but nope
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1239[08:40:19] <SymbioticFemale> ftp.ca.debian.org
1240[08:40:21] <SymbioticFemale> stretch
1241[08:40:30] <teus> replaced-url
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1243[08:40:43] <teus> its in backports, testing and unstable >:(
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1246[08:40:58] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: .deb packages can run pre and post install scripts as root. If the packages actually came from ftp.ca.debian.org you're probably okay
1247[08:41:20] <SymbioticFemale> yeah but wat if MitM?
1248[08:41:25] <SymbioticFemale> damnit
1249[08:41:42] <SymbioticFemale> why would they not have sigs?
1250[08:42:16] <jmcnaught> teus: did it exist before jessie was frozen?
1251[08:42:29] <teus> i have no idea
1252[08:42:32] <teus> i assume so
1253[08:42:39] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: i don't know. also the testing support channel is #debian-next at irc.oftc.net
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1256[08:44:41] <jmcnaught> teus: you can look up the history of packages here: replaced-url
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1259[08:45:48] <teus> ok let me have a look
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1261[08:47:15] <teus> i have no idea what to amke from it
1262[08:47:18] <teus> replaced-url
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1267[08:48:42] <jmcnaught> teus: what is the earliest news item you can find? compare that to the date that jessie was frozen (november 5 2014)
1268[08:49:26] <teus> earliest mention is 2015
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1270[08:51:16] <teus> i dont get why teh page says its for jessie 8
1271[08:51:34] <jmcnaught> what page was that?
1272[08:51:43] <teus> i dont work with this stuff often enough to stay on top of it
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1274[08:51:47] <teus> replaced-url
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1277[08:52:48] <jmcnaught> it looks like it needs to be corrected. it's a wiki if you want to you can
1278[08:53:51] <teus> im not familiar enough for that
1279[08:53:54] <teus> i'll open a topic on teh forums
1280[08:53:56] <teus> to flag it
1281[08:53:58] <teus> so ehh
1282[08:54:04] <candidat> hello guys :)
1283[08:54:09] <teus> i have the pepperflash now, but need a browser plugin?
1284[08:54:12] <teus> i can try the backport?
1285[08:56:20] <candidat> how have you began to learn command lines ?
1286[08:56:46] <teus> follow guides :)
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1288[08:57:15] <candidat> teus :)
1289[08:57:23] <teus> "As of 2015-05, the old "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" is deprecated in favor of an official, maintained, one-step package called adobe-flashplugin, "
1290[08:57:26] <teus> durp
1291[08:57:38] <candidat> but the method of searching for each command line ?
1292[08:58:29] <teus> google :|
1293[08:58:30] <teus> or a manual
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1295[08:58:50] <candidat> and a brain...
1296[08:59:05] <candidat> find asauv/* -newer `ls -t sauv/*` | xargs tar -cvzf sauv/`date +%s`.tar
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1299[08:59:59] <candidat> what does this command do ?
1300[09:00:53] <teus> oh
1301[09:01:05] <teus> look up the manual for "find" and look for the option "-newer"
1302[09:01:07] <teus> and "-t"
1303[09:01:18] <teus> then look up the manual for xargs and tar
1304[09:01:59] <teus> and it has piping too... to help you a little, you look for files with "find", all the found files are then processed by tar
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1306[09:02:26] <teus> xargs is something to parse a large list of results
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1308[09:02:37] <slax0r> when can one usually expect security patches for debian kernels?
1309[09:02:56] <slax0r> I mean, how long after a vulnerability in a kernel is found does it usually take for the debian team to roll out a patch?
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1311[09:03:15] <jmcnaught> teus: i don't know where you're seeing 'deprecated ... adobe-flashplugin', but yes you should simply use the package in jessie-backports. I updated the wiki page replaced-url
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1313[09:04:02] <teus> jmcnaught: thanks man :-)
1314[09:04:05] <jim> according to replaced-url
1315[09:04:21] <jmcnaught> jim: does jessie even have rt kernels?
1316[09:04:34] <jim> I think it does
1317[09:04:40] <jmcnaught> ,v linux-image-rt-amd64
1318[09:04:41] <judd> Package: linux-image-rt-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46
1319[09:05:04] <jim> that would be the right arch too
1320[09:05:12] <jmcnaught> it's possible there's been some recently on jessie-backports but i don't see any now
1321[09:05:40] <jmcnaught> jim: do you have an rt kernel package for jessie installed?
1322[09:05:46] <jim> judd should have said some
1323[09:05:52] <jim> yeah I do
1324[09:06:04] <jmcnaught> what is the package name then?
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1326[09:06:22] <jim> sec
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1328[09:07:03] <jim> 4.7.0 doesn't have the rt applied (or it didn't)
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1331[09:08:52] <jelly> dpkg, tell slax0r about tracker of doom
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1333[09:09:16] <jim> linux-image-4.4.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 and linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64
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1335[09:09:33] <jelly> jim: those are backports
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1337[09:09:36] <^v> recent apt-get upgrade is stuck on `Installing new version of config file /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown ...`
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1339[09:09:51] <^v> cant ctrl-c
1340[09:10:06] <jim> oh, then you meant released with jessie, and I don't think there are any
1341[09:10:07] <jelly> jim: that means not covered by security team
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1343[09:10:18] <SymbioticFemale> jelly, have you ever heard in here of tor exit nodes serving up compromised package lists and .deb packages? i find it plausible.... i did something stupid in a chroot
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1347[09:10:56] <jim> jelly, ok, so then they wouldn't have applied the patch and put out a new kernel
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1349[09:11:08] <jelly> SymbioticFemale: I've heard all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories.
1350[09:11:14] <jim> and the backports people wouldn't have either
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1352[09:11:59] <jelly> jim: the backports are lower priority, people may get to it when they get to it
1353[09:12:08] <slax0r> jelly: thanks
1354[09:12:45] <jim> ok, so then my question becomes... which jessie kernel images are patched?
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1356[09:13:19] <jelly> jim: patched for what?
1357[09:13:42] <jelly> jim: /msg dpkg tracker of doom
1358[09:13:59] <jim> patched for CVE-2016-5195
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1360[09:14:20] <SymbioticFemale> jelly: i apt-get upgrade'd over tor, to clearnet, and wasn't paying attention. it said "cannot be verified" and i hit "y" without reading
1361[09:14:22] <Rephlexie> replaced-url
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1363[09:14:35] <jelly> SymbioticFemale: sucks to be you, I guess
1364[09:14:39] <candidat> thanks teus
1365[09:14:43] <jim> which linus tried to fix 11 years ago but gave up because it was too hard to trigger it
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1367[09:15:10] <candidat> teus, it s a good method
1368[09:15:33] <teus> :)
1369[09:15:43] <candidat> ;-)
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1371[09:17:45] <jelly> if a user intentionally ignores the one specific signature check that protects against compromised repos, anything may be installed
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1377[09:18:46] <SymbioticFemale> yeah jelly i know i'm screwed. oh well. that system didn't matter.
1378[09:19:39] <SymbioticFemale> it said do you want to install. I hit "y" it said cannot be verified, i said "y". lol. i thought i had mistyped the first "y" with fat fingers. teaches me for not reading
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1382[09:23:46] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: you could mount the disk on another system, and check the sha256sums of the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archive
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1388[09:25:44] <SymbioticFemale> yeah presuming that the .debs weren't replaced with legit ones after... presuming it is not a complex pwn. is there an automated way I could check the sha256sums side by side with the list? I'm scraping my brain for a solution but I can't remember what it is
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1392[09:26:55] <jmcnaught> there's also debsums to check the files from packages
1393[09:27:00] <jmcnaught> it would be tedious
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1395[09:27:25] <SymbioticFemale> k
1396[09:27:27] <jelly> don't have to remember a specific solution at all, just write a one-time script that creates two well ordered lists and diff them
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1398[09:27:51] <SymbioticFemale> k
1399[09:28:14] <candidat> lol
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1409[09:33:21] <JyZyXEL> where do you configure how many boot logs journalctl stores?
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1418[09:36:27] <jmcnaught> JyZyXEL: you might not be able to configure how many boots, but there are time and size limits you can configure in /etc/systemd/journald.conf (there's a man page for this file too)
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1435[09:44:25] <SymbioticFemale> where can I curl the package lists from?
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1438[09:44:37] <SymbioticFemale> i should get them now before they potentially change with updates
1439[09:44:53] <SymbioticFemale> locally or online
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1441[09:45:15] <SymbioticFemale> package lists/sha256sum lists
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1443[09:45:33] <jelly> you already have them in /var/lib/apt/lists/
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1445[09:45:57] <SymbioticFemale> k
1446[09:46:06] <SymbioticFemale> thanks jelly
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1450[09:48:05] <jelly> repos get updates 3-4 times a day tho
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1453[09:48:50] <SymbioticFemale> i know. i'll be able to handle it from here. thanks
1454[09:48:59] <surfist> where can I find old kernel headers? say for 4.3.0 ?
1455[09:49:28] <jelly> surfist: snapshot.debian.org
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1457[09:49:59] <SymbioticFemale> he left after i called him out on the claim that he had a girlfriend
1458[09:50:00] <surfist> so I play with sources.list ?
1459[09:50:09] <SymbioticFemale> ...wrong room.........
1460[09:50:24] <surfist> s/so/do
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1463[09:51:21] <jelly> surfist: play? You add the line for a timestamped repo you need
1464[09:51:36] <surfist> dunno much about snapshots yet
1465[09:51:51] <jelly> did you read the Usage
1466[09:52:23] <surfist> just starting out... seeking info
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1468[09:53:05] <surfist> I can add to sources.list but am not sure if it's the preferred mechanism in this case
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1470[09:53:33] <jelly> it might be nicer if you read the fine documentation FIRST, then asked questions about it if something was unclear
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1472[09:53:50] <surfist> where might these lovely docs be? :)
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1474[09:54:03] <jelly> surfist: snapshot.debian.org
1475[09:54:11] <surfist> nm staring at the site yay :)
1476[09:54:19] <surfist> well, it's a start
1477[09:54:21] <jelly> srsly
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1479[09:54:52] <surfist> I have six screens running lots of switching
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1481[09:55:09] <jelly> people volunteer their free time in here answering question, it's best not waste their time on repeating what's already on the site
1482[09:55:26] <surfist> thanks for the good lead
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1491[09:57:43] <surfist> it's still gonna be a long hunt.. for kernel version and sources.. but whatever
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1544[10:13:58] <adac> Is there a way to install java 7 oracle directly via an extra repository?
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1549[10:15:45] <Stummi> adac, oracle java 7 is EOL, you probably don't want to use it
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1551[10:16:42] <jmcnaught> adac: openjdk-7 is not working for you?
1552[10:16:43] <adac> Stummi, yes I also rather would not, but I have some problems with open-xchange and I wanted to test if it maybe works with oracle java 7 or 8
1553[10:16:57] <adac> jmcnaught, ^^
1554[10:17:03] <jmcnaught> ,i java-package
1555[10:17:04] <judd> Package java-package (contrib/misc, optional) in jessie/amd64: Utility for creating Java Debian packages. Version: 0.56; Size: 20.1k; Installed: 87k
1556[10:17:34] <jmcnaught> adac: look at the full description of that package
1557[10:17:43] <adac> kk, thanks
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1561[10:18:09] <Stummi> jmcnaught, I would try java 8 first. You can just download the oracle package as .tar.gz, extract it somewhere (like /opt/java/oracle-java-8)
1562[10:18:41] <adac> yes I try 8
1563[10:18:56] <jmcnaught> Stummi: or convert the tarball into a .deb with java-package
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1565[10:19:31] <TomTomTosch> openjdk 7 doesn't reach eol for the next two years.
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1567[10:19:53] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
1568[10:20:18] <Stummi> TomTomTosch, he said he wants the oracle java instead of openjdk
1569[10:20:38] <jmcnaught> i still recommend using openjdk, but if you think there's some value in looking for the bug in oracle java that's how you can do it
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1572[10:21:50] <Stummi> I understood it as, something doesn't work with the openjdk and he wants to check if it works with oracles JRE or JDK instead
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1576[10:24:02] <adac> Stummi, that is correct. Since no one has a solution for my problem I want to try it now with oracle 8
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1581[10:24:54] <Stummi> adac, what exactly is your problem if you don't mind telling us?
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1597[10:28:26] <adac> Stummi, sure! I try to register an open-xchange server, according to the setup guide of open-xchange, however I get this error: replaced-url
1598[10:28:56] <skokkk> hi there, I have a weird question. How do I force apt-get to install ip4 and not via ipv6
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1604[10:30:34] <adac> Stummi, there are basically 2 entries in google when searching for the error "Look-up failed. Service "OXUtil_V2" is not available." and #open-xchange is very quite and the one guy that answered me had no clue about what this error is about.
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1610[10:33:53] <Stummi> adac, I don't believe an oracle JDK would help here, since the the differences between OpanJDK and Oracles JDK are quite subtile (IIRC theres just some additional support through proprietary libs regarding multimedia stuff)
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1615[10:35:38] <skokkk> someone able to help?
1616[10:35:46] <Stummi> But I too can't help you further with that problem, since I don't know anything about open-xchange
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1618[10:36:09] <adac> Stummi, ok I see yes
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1620[10:38:02] <Mahe> skokkk: replaced-url
1621[10:38:44] <Rephlexie> skokkk, i think if you disable it via sysctl apt wont touch it
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1628[10:40:19] <Guest17135> does anyone know how to save minicom configs in directory other than /etc/minicom
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1632[10:42:30] <ANTI_microchip> fuck israeli supreme court !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! know fuck israeli supreme court !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! know your enemy israeli supreme court ---------------on youtube your enemy israeli supreme court ---------------on youtube
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1634[10:43:02] <ANTI_microchip> fuck israeli supreme court !
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1666[10:59:10] <al3xv3gas> hi
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1669[11:00:23] <candidat> hi
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1709[11:15:08] <candidat> what 'my cmd' means ?
1710[11:15:23] <candidat> ' <--- ?
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1712[11:16:08] <petemc> single quotes means no interpolation
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1714[11:16:53] <Shadur> You want interpolation, use backtics ( ` <- that one )
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1717[11:17:27] <Foloex> hello world
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1719[11:17:44] <Shadur> `mycmd` basically executes mycmd and yields the output as a string.
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1721[11:19:15] <Foloex> I trying to connect a laptop to two screens, one using HDMI the other VGA. The HDMI part works fine but the VGA screen doesn't react, it just goes to standby mode. The display is detected and set as "secondary display". I tried changing the resolution, the frequency and putting it in mirror mode, the screen doesn't care.
1722[11:19:45] <Foloex> The screen works, I tested it with a desktop machine just before.
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1724[11:20:33] <Foloex> I'm not sure which display is used, I have a AMD GPU and the intel graphic GPU built into the i7 processor
1725[11:21:16] <Foloex> both dri and fglrx are installed. The laptop is running debian testing (to have the latest dri drivers) and gnome-shell 3.22.1.
1726[11:21:42] <Foloex> I'm running out of idea on what to try..;
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1734[11:25:30] <candidat> thanks petemc and Shadur
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1738[11:28:01] <candidat> {
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1747[11:32:55] <djp_> some advice please. i have a very low end netbook running debian wheezy. of the two, sdl or gtk, which is less resource intensive or is there no difference? just considering which versions of certain apps i should install.
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1766[11:43:06] <Shadur> sdl and gtk aren't the same thing. sdl is mostly used for games, gtk is for window decorations.
1767[11:43:15] <Emil> It depends entirely on what you do
1768[11:43:39] <Emil> if you build barebones things with sdl it is more lightweight than gtk (but a lot less flexible)
1769[11:43:52] <Emil> There is also less depencies with sdl
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1772[11:44:05] <Emil> But if you already have the depencies then eh
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1784[11:49:48] <n4dir> djp_: the main problem will probably be the web-browser. In my case it easily eats 3 times as much ressources as all the rest.
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1786[11:50:18] <n4dir> trying to do as much as possible from the commandline is probably a good idea.
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1790[11:51:57] <gebruiker> how do I know if my swap is on/mounted/being used?
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1793[11:52:55] <flokuehn> gebruiker: issue swapon on the cli.
1794[11:53:22] <flokuehn> gebruiker: it should show you all stats
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1796[11:54:47] <flokuehn> gebruiker: swapon -s show an summary
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1799[11:55:51] <ahn0st> hello
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1801[11:56:11] <ahn0st> debian how do i restore default panel ?
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1805[11:56:37] <epsilon> gebruiker: and free shows the swap space
1806[11:56:51] <ahn0st> ??
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1810[11:58:11] <ahn0st> debian reset xfce to default?
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1816[12:00:55] <gebruiker> flokuehn: epsilon: when i type mount i do not see swap
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1820[12:01:40] <djp_> Shadur Emil n4dir thank you
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1824[12:02:45] <n4dir> djp_: the distribution antix has good ideas for low-resources apps. But you could also simply ask for a small app for a certain task (for example here).
1825[12:03:06] <n4dir> i think xfce4 is a good way to go, but that is me.
1826[12:03:15] <gebruiker> xfce4 is aweome
1827[12:03:19] <gebruiker> i am running it too
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1829[12:03:55] <n4dir> gebruiker: :-)
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1832[12:04:52] <n4dir> in my case it defaults to something like 70 MB, after boot. But, like said, webbrowser makes it all null and void in the blink of an eye ....
1833[12:05:17] <flokuehn> gebruiker: you usually do not see swap space via mount command
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1835[12:05:57] <flokuehn> gebruiker: you can only see it with free, cat /proc/swaps and/or swapon
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1842[12:07:27] <sheepman> Just tried to use the dirtyc0w exploit on an old squeeze server and it doesn't work, but yet it does on another old wheezy server?
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1849[12:08:46] <bezaban> sheepman: vulnerabilities may be introduced at any time, also are both servers fully patched?
1850[12:09:11] <sheepman> bezaban: well, Squeeze is too old now so as patched as it could be. Wheezy not yet.
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1865[12:11:34] <sheepman> bezaban: just odd that according to all the info it 'should' be given the kernel version
1866[12:11:37] <bezaban> oh right. dirtycow is that one, that's supposed to have been present in squeeze.
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1871[12:12:35] <sheepman> yeah exactly! bit odd. At least the poc doesn't seem to work anyway
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1880[12:14:49] <yossarianuk> sheepman: DirtyCowq only affects kernel 2.6.22 +
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1883[12:15:08] <sheepman> yossarianuk: its running 2.6.32-5-amd64
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1888[12:16:13] <yossarianuk> ah - I thought it used 2.6.18...but that was etch.
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1890[12:17:05] <sheepman> tried on another build of squeeze, didn't work either
1891[12:17:44] <sheepman> anyone else have an old machine running squeeze that wants to test too ? ;)
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1901[12:20:39] <yossarianuk> i don't have time today otherwise I would have installed in a KVM vm to test.
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1907[12:22:36] <sheepman> there is something funny with it, or at least the poc as i have two different wheezy vm's that both should be exploitable but only one is
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1911[12:24:38] <_shaun_> hi guys i cant get my mint install to pick up my bluetooth headphones and ive followed the standard procedures on the net
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1914[12:24:54] <_shaun_> as per replaced-url
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1917[12:25:37] <exptom> Hi, I'm trying to get an LVM volume that is located on an iSCSI storage device to mount automatically at boot time. I have added _netdev to fstab but it still doesnt mount. I have to run vgchange -ay after boot to detect it. Any ideas?
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1932[12:32:33] <BadCodSmell> Why am I getting this all of a sudden?
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1948[12:39:21] <gebruiker> is there an app to control the brightness off the monitor?
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1950[12:39:45] <gebruiker> i.e for when it is dark and the brightness is too much
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1964[12:46:44] <xVim> Hi. Does anyone know why I still get program output to my bash shell after the command "xdg-open file.pdf > /dev/null 2>&1 & disown"?
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1966[12:47:32] <xVim> I thought that I have a background task after that no longer connected to my bash shell, with its STDOUT and STDERR pointing to /dev/null...
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1971[12:52:47] <teraflops> xVim: what are you trying to achieve?
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1975[12:53:21] <xVim> teraflops: Opening files from command line
1976[12:53:37] <teraflops> xVim: xdg-open file && exit
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1978[12:53:53] <teraflops> the output you get is from disown I guess
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1981[12:54:48] <xVim> teraflops: I want to keep my shell open after that command. The output I get is not from disown, but from my pdf reader (okular).
1982[12:54:49] <teraflops> && exit if you want to close the terminal
1983[12:55:13] <xVim> teraflops: The weird thing is that lots of output is suppressed from okular, but not all.
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1985[12:55:25] <teraflops> xVim: no idea if okular
1986[12:55:36] <teraflops> of*
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1988[12:56:15] <xVim> teraflops: Thanks for helping anyway. I think the issue here is not okular, but somehow my redirection is not working as it should.
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2018[13:10:55] <djp_> n4dir: i currently use ratpoison
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2020[13:11:59] <n4dir> djp_: i fooled with it too. sticked to awesome for a while. In the end i enjoy the comfort of xfce.
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2039[13:21:09] <matthias3> hi
2040[13:21:24] <matthias3> exit
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2044[13:24:11] <mkwia> hi all, I am having an issue wiht audio, it works on my headphones, but not speakers
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2051[13:25:59] <no_gravity> Hello! When I time a script with "time myscript.sh" and "real" is much higher then "user"+"sys" that means most of the time was spent waiting for io?
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2056[13:26:37] <gebruiker> no_gravity: please see #bash
2057[13:26:40] <gebruiker> join*
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2059[13:27:30] <no_gravity> gebruiker: ?
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2062[13:28:54] <mrtrump> debian is kikn butt for me
2063[13:29:05] <mrtrump> JFS seems awesome
2064[13:29:07] <mrtrump> sofar.
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2066[13:29:21] <mrtrump> anyone got opinion on XFS v JFS?
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2069[13:29:59] <mrtrump> I read 14 essays online comparing
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2071[13:30:12] <mrtrump> JFS seemed to perform better and be more stable
2072[13:30:39] <gebruiker> mrtrump: tried them both both eventually reverted back to ext4 as I saw some benchmarks online that convinced me ext4 was better, even with options where journaling was off.
2073[13:30:42] <mrtrump> I did notice XFS does this freaky like almost instant format, is this because it doles out inodes on the fly liek reiser?
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2078[13:30:57] <mrtrump> waaa
2079[13:31:09] <mrtrump> In things I read ext4 was totally inferior
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2082[13:31:18] <gebruiker> interesting
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2087[13:32:38] <tdn> I get this warning in syslog: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 7: can't verify hostname: <somehostname> I have ALL: ALL in my hosts.deny file. So why do I recieve this warning?
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2089[13:32:58] <bolt> just use what works for you. don't rely on an online benchmark that doesn't match your usecase whatsoever. what are you doing anyway, that causes your filesystem to become a potential bottleneck?
2090[13:33:02] <mrtrump> probly no reverse DNS setup
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2092[13:33:34] <mrtrump> I have 2.5 T of movies and files and have them on usb external drive usb2 connector :(
2093[13:34:09] <bolt> your file system probably doesn't matter at all then
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2095[13:34:19] <bolt> ..as long as you use a modern one
2096[13:34:23] <mrtrump> lately even at consulting jobs, disk is always the bottle nexk
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2099[13:34:45] <mrtrump> yeah Ima nut tho I want every advantage
2100[13:34:51] <bolt> disk, yes. file system - probably not
2101[13:34:52] <mrtrump> 23 years doing unix
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2103[13:35:07] <mrtrump> I can use what I learn on consulting gigz
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2105[13:35:30] <mrtrump> Im looking at some 8 bay usb3 arrays for my next pc
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2107[13:35:43] <bolt> still, your file system is probably irrelevant
2108[13:35:52] <mrtrump> no its quite relevant
2109[13:35:58] <bolt> how so?
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2111[13:36:14] <mrtrump> you will find it is you who are mistaken, young skywalker, about a great many things!
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2113[13:36:29] <bolt> please explain how the file system affects your current usecase
2114[13:36:30] <mrtrump> because when you run a 22T server as I am at work
2115[13:36:41] <mrtrump> the filesystem choice can affect performance of the raid 10
2116[13:36:47] <mrtrump> and it adds up
2117[13:36:49] <mrtrump> things matter
2118[13:36:53] <mrtrump> thats why Im voting trump
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2121[13:37:23] <mrtrump> the real question is how large file is large, where supposedly XFS does better
2122[13:37:28] <mrtrump> 100m?
2123[13:37:30] <mrtrump> 500m?
2124[13:37:37] <bolt> if you're going to use an online file system benchmark to determine which file system to deploy on your file server at work, it's most likely you who have something to learn
2125[13:37:39] <mrtrump> wheere is the large lrage?
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2132[13:37:50] <mrtrump> I said I sued 14
2133[13:38:00] <mrtrump> 14 different sites I did wahts called reading
2134[13:38:03] <mrtrump> you should try it
2135[13:38:12] <mrtrump> then you wotn be so poor and uppity
2136[13:38:20] <mrtrump> and so fast to give bad advice when you dont know anything
2137[13:38:38] <mrtrump> or speak from experience
2138[13:38:44] <mrtrump> it sesm you speak from inexperience
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2140[13:38:55] <mrtrump> I went to a better college than you too
2141[13:38:57] <mrtrump> :)
2142[13:38:59] <bolt> are you done?
2143[13:39:00] <mrtrump> yeahhhh
2144[13:39:04] <mrtrump> your not me
2145[13:39:15] <bolt> troll.
2146[13:39:21] <mrtrump> elf!
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2149[13:40:09] <mrtrump> milleniaal I pity
2150[13:40:18] <mrtrump> they will neve rplay palaldium rpg 1st edition
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2159[13:41:00] <Shadur> If only it were that easy in real life.
2160[13:41:07] <no_gravity> Which of these two CPUs would you expect to be faster?
2161[13:41:10] <no_gravity> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2683 v3 @ 2.00GHz
2162[13:41:14] <no_gravity> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5630 @ 2.13GHz
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2171[13:43:03] <gustavohmsilva> hi
2172[13:43:17] <gustavohmsilva> Running
2173[13:43:24] <gustavohmsilva> aweeeeeesome!
2174[13:43:57] <gustavohmsilva> this
2175[13:44:28] <gry> hi, first time debian install ?
2176[13:44:51] <OpenTokix> no_gravity: I dont think you will see any noticable difference by the pure GHz - depends on the overall performance of the other parts. And your workloa.
2177[13:44:52] <Stummi> no_gravity, at first sigt, the E5 seems to have better specs. However it probably depends on the use case
2178[13:45:19] <gustavohmsilva> nah,
2179[13:45:42] <no_gravity> I am comparing two VMs and wonder why one of them is 25% faster.
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2182[13:46:46] <gustavohmsilva> no_gravty,
2183[13:47:12] <gry> gustavohmsilva: ask your question, don't just highlight people please :)
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2187[13:48:06] <Stummi> no_gravity, and the two processors are what runs the host under the VMs?
2188[13:48:27] <gustavohmsilva> Are
2189[13:48:58] <no_gravity> Stummi: dunno. its just what is in /proc/cpuinfo
2190[13:49:09] <Stummi> no_gravity, okay. how do you measure what runs faster?
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2194[13:49:50] <no_gravity> Stummi: I played back web traffic to Apache.
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2196[13:50:15] <no_gravity> And measured how fast it processed the requests.
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2198[13:50:38] <Stummi> uh, okay? Are you sure CPU is the bottleneck for your apache processing requests?
2199[13:50:56] <no_gravity> Stummi: Not at all. I just wondered why one VM is 25% faster then the other.
2200[13:51:06] <no_gravity> Disk seems to be way slower on the faster machine.
2201[13:51:15] <no_gravity> As measured by a simple dd command :)
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2206[13:52:25] <Stummi> I am afraid thats not a trival thing to find out. Finding the bottleneck in complex setups can turn out to be very difficult
2207[13:52:33] <gustavohmsilva> i
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2210[13:55:10] <gustavohmsilva> guys?
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2212[13:55:35] <beezlebug1> i am new to linux and must administer a squid server. on the client the site open slowly. the server is not under heavy load. i have done a speedtest. The speedtest takes long to start, but then it works fine (reaching the expected speed).
2213[13:55:36] <beezlebug1> As soon as the clients bypass squid, the performance is much better.
2214[13:55:38] <beezlebug1> Since i administer an another squid on weaker hardware and still obtain better results there (identical provider speed), i suspect something might be wrong or suboptimal with the squid configuration
2215[13:55:39] <beezlebug1> the hardware of the squid server is sufficient. any recommandations?
2216[13:55:41] <beezlebug1> How can i detect where the performance hog is under linux? i.e. how can i detect if a process eats away at disk/memory/network resources and which?
2217[13:56:20] <colo-work> ,v autokey-gtk
2218[13:56:21] <judd> Package: autokey-gtk on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.90.1-1.1; jessie: 0.90.4-1; sid: 0.90.4-1; stretch: 0.90.4-1
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2224[13:58:03] <gustavohmsilva> can
2225[13:59:08] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a problem with Apache and vhosts. I have two domains on one IP and set different headers for both in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ but only one domain sends the header. I have a shortend paste of the config file at: replaced-url
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2227[14:00:31] <FinalX> Bliepo: The second URL is identical to the first; and perhaps #httpd is more what you need, rather than #debian :) (there as well)
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2231[14:01:39] <Bliepo> FinalX: ah, I'll join #httpd then. But I don't understand, to me the second URL seems different? Or am I missing something?
2232[14:01:53] <FinalX> You linked replaced-url
2233[14:02:05] <Bliepo> Ah
2234[14:02:20] <Bliepo> I was looking at the config file. I see now.
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2261[14:11:58] <SpComb> hi, I have a packaging question for expressing a Breaks on a specific major version of a package
2262[14:12:04] <SpComb> specifically, something like this: Breaks: docker.io (>= 1.10), docker.io (<< 1.11)
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2264[14:12:33] <SpComb> the docker.io 1.10 package is built with Go 1.6 and it breaks with old docker clients (replaced-url
2265[14:12:43] <SpComb> but docker.io 1.9 and 1.11 are fine
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2270[14:13:18] <SpComb> but yeah, that Breaks line doesn't work; dpkg: regarding .../kontena-agent_0.16.0.dev6-1_all.deb containing kontena-agent: kontena-agent breaks docker.io (>= 1.10) docker.io (version 1.12.1-0ubuntu13~16.04.1) is present and installed.
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2272[14:14:04] <bolt> i think those are "or"'ed
2273[14:14:10] <bolt> so you're breaking everything :)
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2276[14:14:45] <Agiofws> hello
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2278[14:15:14] <jelly> SpComb: which dpkg version are you using?
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2281[14:15:48] <SpComb> this is packaging targeting Ubuntu xenial, so dpkg=1.18.4ubuntu1.1
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2283[14:16:15] <jelly> probably want to ask the ubuntu maintainer then
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2286[14:16:41] <SpComb> same dpkg 1.18 version as in current debian (1.18.10)
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2288[14:17:33] <jelly> that is... not the same version at all really
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2290[14:18:06] <jelly> sadly I don't know of a channel to ask dpkg questions in, this channel is for Debian specifically
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2292[14:18:25] <jelly> however you're welcome to try reproducing the issue on an actual Debian setup
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2295[14:18:33] <jelly> _then_ ask here
2296[14:20:04] <SpComb> I'll try OFTC #packaging then
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2303[14:21:35] <jelly> nod
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2306[14:22:07] <wrksx> hey guys
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2308[14:22:20] <wrksx> I have an issue with email
2309[14:22:59] <wrksx> when I send an email with the mail command, how is the mail actually sent?
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2313[14:27:51] <teraflops> wrksx: depends on the *mail command* you installed
2314[14:27:56] <Embrik_> Hi all! Is it possible to set my lubuntu-laptop to wake up when ac power is connected? I am setting up this laptop with a broken screen for a friend of mine. It would have been awesome let the laptop be closed, with the external screen on top of it. And just start it up by connecting the power
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2317[14:28:31] <teraflops> wrksx: replaced-url
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2324[14:32:03] <bolt> Embrik_: #ubuntu
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2326[14:34:21] <wrksx> teraflops, thank you
2327[14:34:37] <teraflops> Embrik_: this channel is for debian support only, please try #ubuntu
2328[14:34:41] <teraflops> wrksx: np
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2331[14:35:14] <jelly> wrksx: the mail command uses /usr/sbin/sendmail to put the mail to the queue of a MTA. What happens then depends on the MTA you have installed
2332[14:35:46] <wrksx> jelly, right thx
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2337[14:37:51] <wrksx> jelly, looks like my coinfigured MTA is exim
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2345[14:39:41] <DotHack> hi fellow debianers, i am lloking for a tool to do a queued remote file copy, something like uucp, but then with scp or something. Anybody got a clue if this exists?
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2348[14:41:30] <bolt> DotHack: queued how?
2349[14:41:38] <wrksx> DotHack, "but then with scp" what does that mean?
2350[14:42:01] <bolt> rsync?
2351[14:42:37] <DotHack> bolt: we have some system that still use uucp. with uucp i can copy a file to a remote system, but instead of being copied immediatly it is placed into a queue
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2354[14:42:57] <jelly> DotHack: so why not keep using uucp?
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2356[14:43:24] <DotHack> jelly: i thought maybe it was superseeded by now..
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2362[14:44:14] <nutsack> nutsack
2363[14:44:18] <nutsack> nutsack
2364[14:44:24] <nutsack> nutsack
2365[14:44:28] <nutsack> nutsack
2366[14:44:28] <nutsack> nutsack
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2369[14:44:48] <nutsack> nutsack
2370[14:44:49] <nutsack> nutsack
2371[14:44:50] <nutsack> nutsack
2372[14:44:50] <nutsack> nutsack
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2375[14:45:03] <nutsack> nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
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2377[14:45:11] <morf> haha :) ok
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2381[14:45:32] <nutsack> nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
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2383[14:45:38] <nutsack> nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
2384[14:45:44] <nutsack> nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
2385[14:45:45] <nutsack> nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
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2388[14:45:47] <morf> only nuts no ack
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2394[14:46:56] <themill> nutsack: try growing a pair first.
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2400[14:47:50] <wrksx> What is usually called a "mail server"? a combination of MTA + MDA?
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2406[14:50:45] <jelly> wrksx: or any of those components.
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2410[14:51:16] <wrksx> jelly, okay so "mail server" has no clear meaning actually
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2417[14:52:53] <jelly> wrksx: that's about right.
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2423[14:56:20] <[exa]_> Hi everyone. It might have been already asked here several thousand times today, but..... is there a .deb with dirtycow-patched kernel for stretch?
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2430[14:59:00] <TomTomTo1> replaced-url
2431[14:59:09] <TomTomTo1> sid already has it patched, stretch not yet.
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2437[15:02:07] <desinfect64> hello
2438[15:02:07] <niko> themill: sorry for the previous missfire
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2467[15:09:50] <Paul^^> hello all
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2479[15:13:48] <wrksx> When cron sends mail, I suppose it uses the same config/MTA than the mail command, is that right?
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2495[15:17:48] <Paul^^> how may I use ssh throught sock5 to connect to a sshd server ?
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2499[15:18:35] <Paul^^> I don't mean ssh forwarding , ok ?
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2501[15:19:03] <jelly> wrksx: pretty much the same, that is, /usr/sbin/sendmail
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2506[15:19:58] <wrksx> jelly, isn't that *precisely* the same?
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2515[15:22:26] <bmr> Paul^^, use ProxyCommand with nc, or another tunneling client
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2518[15:22:38] <bmr> Paul^^, replaced-url
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2520[15:23:10] <bmr> ('man ssh_config' for details on ProxyCommand)
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2527[15:26:27] <Paul^^> bmr, ssh haven't this feature inside ? must it use another program for the tunnel ?
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2537[15:30:35] <Paul^^> bmr, ok, tnx
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2553[15:35:15] <ullf09721> Is someone know where cam I get aircrack-ng?
2554[15:35:56] <TomTomTo1> ,i aircrack-ng
2555[15:35:57] <judd> Package aircrack-ng (net, optional) in jessie/amd64: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. Version: 1:1.2-0~beta3-4; Size: 424.7k; Installed: 1724k; Homepage: replaced-url
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2560[15:37:15] <TomTomTo1> using your package manager one would presume.
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2562[15:38:18] <Paul^^> is it possible craack wpa2 / psk ?
2563[15:38:25] <Paul^^> crack
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2565[15:38:34] <ihre> deauth attack is more viable
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2568[15:38:43] <ihre> but thats more of a social engineering trick
2569[15:39:01] <TomTomTo1> depends on password strength.
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2572[15:39:33] <User__> Usually to hack wpa2you need to know a structure of wpa2<,how does it work
2573[15:39:40] <Paul^^> is it work as john the ripper ? you have a vocabolary and try ?
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2576[15:39:54] <TomTomTo1> usually, yes.
2577[15:40:15] <Paul^^> onestly , I don't know very well criptography
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2584[15:40:55] <TomTomTo1> the lesson is, allways use strong passwords ^^
2585[15:40:58] <TomTomTo1> *always
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2591[15:41:14] <Paul^^> cripttography algoritm are unique , so knowing the cipher string is impossible reverse it , only try billion of combination
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2593[15:41:26] <Paul^^> unique verse I mean
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2595[15:41:36] <ullf09721> aircrack-ng is aggod programm to hack wpa/wpa2
2596[15:41:40] <ullf09721> good
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2598[15:42:40] <Paul^^> I know aircrack-ng suite , to spoof mac-adress need of particular wifi card and patched drivers
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2603[15:43:40] <Paul^^> I know only as crack old wep... sorry
2604[15:43:44] <ihre> I'm trying to get a smb(cifs?) mount to work on boot with debian jessie. I've added _netdev to the fstab line, but it still fails to mount on boot (error -113). I guess I could write a systemd service file for it, or is that the actual 'new way'?
2605[15:43:51] <TomTomTo1> if you want to talk about hacking, freenode is not the right place. stay on the right side of the law.
2606[15:44:04] <ullf09721> ok
2607[15:44:15] <Paul^^> ok, excuse me
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2609[15:44:45] <al3xv3gas> hi
2610[15:44:49] <ullf09721> hi
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2613[15:45:09] <al3xv3gas> Are there any OS devs in here?
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2616[15:45:29] <eumel> @ihre, what error message is mount -a failing with?
2617[15:45:30] <al3xv3gas> If so, I would like to ask a question concerning the Debian kernel!
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2619[15:46:09] <ihre> eumel: mount -a always works, its just upon boot, CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket. Aborting operation. & CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -113
2620[15:46:12] <ullf09721> everything about debian kernel you can find in the web
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2624[15:46:53] <ihre> eumel: fstab line = //1.1.1.1/share /mnt/share cifs user=foo,pass=bar,_netdev 0 0
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2628[15:48:24] <jelly> al3xv3gas: why not just ask anyway
2629[15:48:34] <jelly> !ask
2630[15:48:34] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2636[15:50:32] <eumel> @ihre: strange, when mounting works when the system is online it should also work on reboot
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2642[15:52:10] <al3xv3gas> If I have a series of Python terminal applcations and I have read a little bit about OS development, then how would I make a system where the user boots up the system and the OS loads for a while and then oots into the main applicatio that is a terminl app writen in Python so its supposed to basically be a development platform. What components do I need to make this and what do I need to do? The Python applications are there and
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2648[15:52:54] <eumel> @ihre, can you try to mount the share on ip-basis?
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2650[15:53:43] <eumel> @ihre, 113 means no route to host, maybe there's an dns / dhcp problem occurring somewhere?
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2662[15:55:14] <al3xv3gas> The only stock packages that should be included are the Python distributions including Python3 and PIP.
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2669[15:57:13] <jelly> al3xv3gas: huh, that actually has nothing to to with the kernel component or OS development
2670[15:57:37] <eumel> not really
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2672[15:57:45] <jelly> al... eh, they left
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2674[15:58:03] <jelly> !next
2675[15:58:03] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2677[15:58:25] <ihre> eumel: I'm not sure what you mean with ip-basis? I'm using the actual IP at the moment, instead of a dns record
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2680[15:58:50] <JordiGH> Can I restart Linux without rebooting? What's that ksplice thing?
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2683[15:59:07] <eumel> @ihre: sry, you're right, forget about that
2684[15:59:29] <ihre> oh well, time to go home and figure it out on monday ^^
2685[15:59:47] <ihre> thanks for your time eumel :)
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2687[15:59:50] <eumel> @ihre: can you tell us which version of debian you're running?
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2690[16:00:01] <eumel> @ihre: okay, bye ihre
2691[16:00:06] <JordiGH> Crap, backported Linux doesn't get security fixes, eh?
2692[16:00:17] <JordiGH> Linux chloe 4.4.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.4.6-1~bpo8+1 (2016-03-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2693[16:00:20] <JordiGH> Am I vulnerable?
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2697[16:00:43] <greycat> JordiGH: most likely there are some bugs which your kernel still has, yes.
2698[16:00:58] <ihre> eumel: fwiw, debian jessie 8.5, 3.16.0-4-amd64 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3
2699[16:01:00] <JordiGH> Because backports don't get security fixes, right?
2700[16:01:15] <greycat> Your particular backported kernel isn't even *there* any more.
2701[16:01:23] <greycat> ,kernels
2702[16:01:24] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2707[16:03:32] <eumel> @ihre: can you update to 8.6? found some links on google talking about a bug in an older version of cifs, could help.
2708[16:03:36] <JordiGH> Eh, it's a local exploit.
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2729[16:08:06] <nwe> hello! I have a strange problem I using debian with preseed files, When I installing a bare-metal server the configuration of the disk will be correct my / 30GB but when I running the same preseed in a virtual machine, it taking the whole disk for lvm..
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2735[16:09:19] <nwe> the partman configuration looks like this.. replaced-url
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2767[16:22:10] <ihre> eumel: if you still have the links, could you please share them?
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2769[16:22:21] <ihre> i'll look into updating on monday and will report back if you're around :)
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2776[16:25:32] <ghormoon> hi, is there any easy way to use openssl to create new keys and CSR, but copy information from old certificate? So I'm sure not to forget anything in the CSR?
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2779[16:25:48] <eumel> ihre: just google for "mount error 113", and follow the first links
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2802[16:35:22] <b6s3d> hello, is it possible to install debian from a floppy disc?
2803[16:35:44] <greycat> Not any recent version of Debian, no.
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2805[16:36:07] <JordiGH> Where in the world is this in the realm of possibility?
2806[16:36:47] <greycat> There was a guy here some days ago who was trying to install Debian 1.1 (I think) and had a bunch of floppy images he was trying to extract....
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2811[16:37:39] <donofrio> b6s3d, use a floppy to boot replaced-url
2812[16:37:42] <greycat> I would also be quite dubious that a recent version of Debian would even *run* on a machine that only has a floppy drive and not a CD-ROM or USB.
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2815[16:38:16] <Shadur> ... Floppy drives still exist?
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2818[16:38:25] <bmr> Paul^^, no - it only has a SOCKS _server_ built in.
2819[16:38:27] <Agiofws> hello
2820[16:38:32] <eumel> i don't even have a cd-rom drive any more
2821[16:38:33] <Agiofws> i'm trying to setup my gfx intel hd510 card to 3d acceleration so it can play with gdm3 and gnome 3 CAN anyone please help me with this task? i'm on debian stable aka jessie with backports enabled and non free firmware please take a look at replaced-url
2822[16:38:34] <bmr> The ProxyCommand allows you to connect to anything (so long as you can find a command to do so)
2823[16:38:42] <greycat> Sure. You need hardware to read your old media so you can store the files on something else.
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2830[16:40:13] <JordiGH> Urgh, I'm not even sure how to upgrade my linux to the latest backported one.
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2834[16:40:42] <greycat> JordiGH: you simply install another jessie-backports linux-image package, and then you have both installed.
2835[16:41:12] <yepla> hello i have write my issue is someone can have a look it will be great appreciate thanks : replaced-url
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2839[16:41:33] <donofrio> b6s3d, I meant use floppy with plop on it to boot a usb key with debain on it....perhaps even a netinstall iso would work on th eusb key
2840[16:42:00] <JordiGH> greycat: Which linux-image package? There are so many.
2841[16:42:01] <Agiofws> Reading state information... Done
2842[16:42:01] <Agiofws> linux-image-amd64 is already the newest version.
2843[16:42:01] <Agiofws> xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version.
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2850[16:43:38] <JordiGH> Do I want
2851[16:43:40] <JordiGH> linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64
2852[16:44:01] <JordiGH> or linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned or linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd643
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2858[16:45:21] <babilen> JordiGH: Whatfor?
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2860[16:45:28] <babilen> linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned has the fix
2861[16:45:33] <Agiofws> greycat, can you take a look at replaced-url
2862[16:45:52] <JordiGH> babilen: I'm running the backported kernel because I need it for newer Intel graphics.
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2864[16:45:53] <babilen> The signed ones are still building
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2868[16:46:11] <JordiGH> babilen: Oh, so backports *do* get security fixes? I just need to wait a little longer?
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2870[16:46:22] <JordiGH> I can deal with that. Especially since it's a local privesc.
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2872[16:46:29] <Agiofws> JordiGH, me too but i still don;t have gfx though
2873[16:46:31] <babilen> JordiGH: The linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned already has the fix, the linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 is still building
2874[16:46:52] <greycat> Your 4.4.0 bpo image is not likely to get a fix.
2875[16:47:08] <JordiGH> I know, I'm not married to this version.
2876[16:47:34] <JordiGH> I need to change my pin priority, probably, so I get automatic updates for packages already installed from backports.
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2878[16:47:47] <babilen> That's the default behaviour
2879[16:47:57] <babilen> (don't install from there by default, but install upgrades)
2880[16:48:09] <JordiGH> Then I need to install a package that doesn't have the Linux version in the name so it automatically updates?
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2883[16:49:01] <babilen> The linux-image-amd64 metapackage in jessie-backports depends on linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 which does, as of now, not yet contain the fix for CVE-2016-5195
2884[16:49:07] <babilen> (if that's what you are interested in)
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2888[16:49:35] <JordiGH> wfm
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2893[16:50:43] <JordiGH> babilen: Thanks for the help.
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2895[16:51:12] <babilen> But generally speaking you want that one if you want to automatically pull in newer packages
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2901[16:52:23] <JordiGH> Hrm, this does not inspire confidence: replaced-url
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2903[16:53:15] <JordiGH> That's for some virtual machine stuff, right?
2904[16:53:20] <JordiGH> I don't think I use that anymore.
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2909[16:54:53] <greycat> Weird... you got 4.7.8-1~bpo8+1 but I got 4.7.5-1~bpo8+2
2910[16:55:13] <greycat> different mirrors out of sync possibly
2911[16:55:40] <babilen> greycat: That would be signed vs unsigned ?!
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2913[16:56:03] <greycat> oh, his is headers not image...
2914[16:56:34] <greycat> (Not sure whether that's relevant. I'm not using kernel-headers or dkms anything.)
2915[16:56:37] <babilen> And maybe the packages have been built by now ..
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2942[17:03:48] <queso> What does this mean? There are tons of these entries in /var/log/syslog on my machine: wpa_supplicant[1200]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
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2969[17:17:39] <Agiofws> can i install a newer kernel than this one on my debian 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 ?
2970[17:18:12] <RoyK> why would you need it?
2971[17:18:22] <greycat> !skylake
2972[17:18:23] <dpkg> an <intel-gfx> chipset requiring firmware. For jessie support, enable <backports> and <non-free sources>, then install <bpo kernel>, xserver-xorg-video-intel and firmware-misc-nonfree from jessie-backports.
2973[17:18:38] <RoyK> !sns
2974[17:18:38] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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2976[17:18:57] <greycat> I'm not sure what a skylake is exactly, but I'm guessing this is the actual issue.
2977[17:19:21] <missmbob> Agiofws: if you need it i have jessie debs of 4.8.3. or you can roll your own.
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2980[17:20:04] <RoyK> Agiofws: first of all - why do you need anything newer?
2981[17:20:08] <Agiofws> i need it because " i fixed the no EDID case recently. you need a more recent kernel " from intel-gfx
2982[17:20:19] <Agiofws> i need it because " i fixed the no EDID case recently. you need a more recent kernel " from #intel-gfx
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2984[17:20:38] <greycat> How recent exactly?
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2988[17:21:32] <Agiofws> so backports does not have a newer kernel than 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 ?
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2990[17:21:37] <greycat> ,kernels
2991[17:21:38] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
2992[17:21:41] <jelly> Agiofws: how recent do you need?
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2995[17:22:43] <jelly> (did the developer say which version it got in)
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3008[17:27:11] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> 4.9-rc1
3009[17:27:11] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> although that's broken in other ways, so what you really want is drm-intel-nightly
3010[17:27:33] <Agiofws> does debian have drm-nightly?
3011[17:27:36] <missmbob> jesus
3012[17:27:45] <yossarianuk> hi - I am trying to make a script run on shutdown . I want sdmem to run as I have a hardened laptop to connect to a HSM. With sysinitv and upstart this was easy
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3014[17:27:52] <yossarianuk> how can I do it with Systemd ?
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3016[17:28:07] <Martyn> [[ prefix to message -- due to the embedded nature of the production server I am on, I need to stay on Debian 6, and cannot move to 7 or 8. I am FULLY AWARE that Debian 6-LTS was EOL'ed in Feb ]]
3017[17:28:42] <yossarianuk> tried sometghing like -> replaced-url
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3020[17:28:49] <Martyn> Is there a way I can patch "Dirty Cow" on a debian 6 'Squeeze' LTS server? Despite it being EOL'ed, does anyone know of anyone maintaining oldoldstable kernels?
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3022[17:29:30] <greycat> Martyn: you could install a patched kernel. Just make sure it's compatible with squeeze's userspace.
3023[17:29:42] <jelly> Martyn: you can probably pay the LTS team to do it on a one-time basis
3024[17:29:53] <elixir> I was thinking of this the other day... How do you all pronounce "dpkg"? I have always pronounced aloud as "D Package". Is there a proper way to pronounce it?
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3030[17:30:12] <Agiofws> yes
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3032[17:30:15] <Martyn> jelly : I've reached out to the LTS team -- they have said "LTS is Wheezy, we are not doing any work on Squeeze"
3033[17:30:17] <Agiofws> dpkg...
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3035[17:30:36] <jelly> Martyn: did you wave a hand full of $$$ in front of them?
3036[17:30:57] <greycat> Is there any reason a wheezy (lts) kernel would not work on his squeeze system?
3037[17:30:59] <Martyn> jelly : You bet.... about 10 kilopizzas worth
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3041[17:31:27] <Agiofws> how can i install 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae ?
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3043[17:31:31] <jelly> Martyn: pizza is $5 here, for $50.000 I'll do it myself.
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3047[17:31:57] <greycat> yossarianuk: google says replaced-url
3048[17:32:16] <jelly> (well, I'll take half and ask bwh to fix it for the other half ;-)
3049[17:32:25] <Martyn> jelly : You don't have a Debian signing key though ... if we're going to pay for the work, I'd want the results to be packaged into the Squeeze-LTS archive
3050[17:32:35] <Agiofws> ,install latest kernel
3051[17:32:37] <Martyn> ( since it wouldn't make it to security )
3052[17:32:44] <Agiofws> ,kernel
3053[17:32:45] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
3054[17:32:56] <jelly> Martyn: that won't happen, since squeeze-lts is archived and immutable
3055[17:33:03] <jelly> (the repo, I mean)
3056[17:33:10] <Martyn> jelly : Yep.
3057[17:33:11] <babilen> Agiofws: That information might be slightly out of date
3058[17:33:13] <somiaj> Agiofws: if you need a kernel newer than 4.7 in jessie, you'll have to compile it yourself. Would the 4.7 kernel from jessie-backports work?
3059[17:33:23] <Agiofws> nope
3060[17:33:29] <Agiofws> i need 4.9 :(
3061[17:33:34] <Martyn> jelly : What do you think? Could I get wheezy's patched kernel to work with squeeze?
3062[17:33:38] <greycat> somiaj: an intel-gfx developer said he needs "drm-intel-nightly"
3063[17:33:44] <Agiofws> 4.9-rc1+
3064[17:33:50] <jelly> Martyn: depends on the hardware
3065[17:33:50] <greycat> Agiofws: your 4.9-rc1 is out of context.
3066[17:33:59] <greycat> 11:27 Agiofws> <vsyrjala> 4.9-rc1
3067[17:34:04] <greycat> 11:27 Agiofws> <vsyrjala> although that's broken in other ways, so what you really want is drm-intel-nightly
3068[17:34:17] <Martyn> jelly : mostly older Supermicro hardware, although there are a couple Dell PowerEdge 400R servers in the mix.
3069[17:34:28] <Agiofws> ok manual to install newest vanilla kernel on debian?
3070[17:34:28] <jelly> Martyn: in general, replacing just the kernel on a typical 64 or 32bin x86 box is an easy task
3071[17:34:31] <RoyK> Agiofws: that's bleeding edge ;)
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3073[17:34:34] <jelly> 32bit*
3074[17:34:47] <jelly> Martyn: that does not sound very embedded
3075[17:34:54] <Martyn> jelly : the biggest issue is the broadcomm network
3076[17:34:59] <jelly> tg3?
3077[17:35:04] <Agiofws> i love debian but using it with gnome is a pain in ass
3078[17:35:10] <jelly> the drivers are still present.
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3081[17:35:34] <arielsanflo> hello
3082[17:35:36] <Agiofws> ok is there a how to to install latest kernel in debian stable?
3083[17:35:54] <greycat> !tell Agiofws about kernel handbook
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3085[17:36:00] <Agiofws> i remember someone posting something here
3086[17:36:03] <missmbob> Agiofws: replaced-url
3087[17:36:12] <Martyn> jelly : The servers are part of an old deep-space tracking network. The ONLY thing I can do to them, due to the project restraints ( .gov/.mil ) is deploy a supported security update. I can't, for example, upgrade them to Jessie.
3088[17:36:16] <Martyn> ( OR wheezy )
3089[17:36:24] <arielsanflo> help how install RoR en debian etch
3090[17:36:41] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
3091[17:36:43] <jelly> Martyn: that is relevant information.
3092[17:36:43] <greycat> Martyn: If you are not allowed to install a kernel of your choice on them, then I don't see what you can do here.
3093[17:36:44] <Martyn> They are "embedded" in that they are in a data center I cannot easily access, and making software changes is a pain in the ass due to a change process.
3094[17:36:56] <missmbob> i'm looking at drm-intel-nightly and last night's failed :P this is going to be annoying
3095[17:36:59] <greycat> (that's not what embedded means)
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3101[17:38:17] <Martyn> greycat : I -can- upgrade the kernel since there is a CVE .. and these servers are available for researchers to log into. Because of the CVE, if I can wrangle a package that was made by and signed by Debian to install, I can do it with an emergency security deploy request.
3102[17:38:18] <greycat> Martyn: when your project is fixed to an old version of <anything>, you just have to accept that there will be new exploits found that you cannot fix.
3103[17:38:24] <jelly> Martyn: science is cool. If you can figure out enough budget, Iit might be possible Debian itself could bend itself to re-create a signed squeeze repo on security.debian.org just for you
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3107[17:39:22] <Agiofws> do i download the source from replaced-url
3108[17:39:35] <missmbob> Agiofws: i dont see how that'll help you when you need the nightly
3109[17:39:41] <greycat> Agiofws: The developer you were talking to TOLD YOU that 4.9-rc1 is broken and that you don't actually want it
3110[17:39:50] <Martyn> jelly : That would be nice, but it's pie in the sky and from the conversations I've had over the last couple days .. not something I think will/can happen.
3111[17:40:01] <yossarianuk> greycat
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3113[17:40:10] <gebruiker> hi
3114[17:40:13] <yossarianuk> greycat: thanks, it didn't work.. Already seen that page
3115[17:40:25] <Martyn> I didn't consider that a Wheezy kernel might run successfully in Squeeze though
3116[17:40:34] <gebruiker> what apps do you guys use to adjust the brightness of the screen - esp during the night?
3117[17:40:35] <jmcnaught> arielsanflo: debian etch stopped being supported six years ago. are you sure you don't mean something newer?
3118[17:40:42] <Martyn> I think the only tricky hardware is the bnx2 network adapter
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3121[17:41:06] <jmcnaught> gebruiker: you should check out redshift
3122[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <Agiofws> what shoul di do to make this work and why is it not working ?
3123[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> like is said, you just need a recent kernel
3124[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <Agiofws> 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae ?
3125[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> no. 4.9-rc1+ like i said
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3128[17:41:42] <missmbob> Agiofws: plus. yes. not rc1.
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3130[17:42:02] <gebruiker> jmcnaught: i already have installed and configured redshift ( the one in jessie is bugged btw). I managed to adjust brightness with xrandr but it just does it for a little while and then reverts
3131[17:42:13] <missmbob> Agiofws: which means nightly. which last night's broke. you could wait for rc2
3132[17:42:17] <gebruiker> i use redlight from missmbob - works great! :)
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3134[17:43:17] <missmbob> Agiofws: i'm cloning the previous night that had a build bot success just to look at. if you want i could try to build it for you
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3136[17:43:39] <Martyn> jelly : Lets see... if I use a Wheezy kernel, and need bnx2 support in the initird, I'll need to install the wheezy package and then patch the initrd by hand by unpacking the cpio, adding the bnx2 driver, and then recreating the initrd
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3138[17:43:50] <Martyn> this should be interesting
3139[17:43:55] <missmbob> gebruiker: glad it's working out :)
3140[17:44:20] <Agiofws> missmbob, could you please?
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3147[17:46:17] <jelly> Martyn: so you don't actually need a kernel signed for squeeze and present only in a previously existing squeeze repo?
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3149[17:46:48] <Martyn> jelly : I think if I can fix the vuln, and it's at least =something= signed by Debian that I can point to ... I can get away with it.
3150[17:47:07] <Martyn> This system is getting so old that any answer other than "Nope, I cannot fix it" will fly.
3151[17:47:19] <greycat> yossarianuk: the stuff in "man systemd-halt.service" might work. I haven't tried that either.
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3156[17:47:59] <Martyn> ( Well, =almost= any other answer )
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3160[17:48:37] <Martyn> jelly : 3.2.82-1 is the wheeze kernel image that patches dirty cow?
3161[17:48:42] <jelly> yes
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3164[17:49:00] <jelly> <Ganneff> not on official mirrors <jelly> I can point the user here and ask whethe a change in mirror site, but not in gpg signage, would work <Ganneff> if some DD builds it, i could prepare a repo directory including an official signature. <jelly> nod <Ganneff> (official. ha. standard ftpmaster one. though, is our squeeze key still valid?)
3165[17:49:15] <jelly> Martyn: that's from #debian-security (on OFTC)
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3169[17:49:25] <pdo_fn14> dirtycow everywhere, lol. :))
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3172[17:49:51] <jelly> I'm not calling it that, cve-2016-5195 here
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3175[17:50:14] <jelly> Martyn: I'll be going AFK for a bit, can you continue discussing there?
3176[17:50:15] <jmcnaught> Martyn: you might also want to get the the newer firmware-bnx2 package from wheezy along with the kernel
3177[17:50:41] <Martyn> jelly : Bah ... I can't seem to meet the dependencies with the package in squeeze ( initramfs-tools > 0.99 , linux=base >= 3~, firmware-linux-free >= 3~ )
3178[17:50:53] <greycat> Ah, bummer.
3179[17:50:59] <Martyn> jelly : Hold on, switching to OFTC
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3195[17:55:44] <missmbob> Agiofws: it's compiling. it'll take a couple hours (code is huge and it's a small vpn)...assuming it actually completes without further errors.
3196[17:56:44] <missmbob> Agiofws: i'll probably forget about it so ping me in a couple
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3251[18:12:44] <johnfg> hi guys
3252[18:13:12] <johnfg> running jessie with all updates. I've got a canon printer connected via usb to a centos box.
3253[18:13:34] <johnfg> What's the best way to connect to it?
3254[18:14:26] <somiaj> johnfg: is the centos box using cups?
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3259[18:16:38] <Agiofws> missmbob, and greycat i dont understand how i/we solved this matter about a month ago what has changed since. all that i can tell is that debian stable changed from 8.5 to 8.6 i even ghave the logs that this issue was solved could you take a look because it seems i've done everything i did in the past and it stilll does not work... the logs are here replaced-url
3260[18:16:38] <Agiofws> for agiofws ... its not that long
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3268[18:17:42] <Agiofws> drm-intel-nightly is 4.9-rc1 + more recent stuff. 4.9-rc1 had a number of problems we ran into which are fixed in -nightly
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3271[18:18:08] <johnfg> somiaj: Yes. I was using it with np, but for some reason, I'm not getting a good connection now.
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3273[18:18:13] <greycat> Perhaps your previous solution was to disable some crap that GNOME is doing.
3274[18:18:28] <greycat> I have utterly no clue how to do anything relating to GNOME other than make it not run. I'm really good at that.
3275[18:19:00] <somiaj> johnfg: cups should be able to share a print over ipp, then using cups on the debian machine configure it to connect to the server using the ip address of the server.
3276[18:19:22] <johnfg> somiaj: So you've found ipp best?
3277[18:19:36] <somiaj> johnfg: its the native sharing format of cups and should work between two systems runing cups
3278[18:19:52] <somiaj> but you do have to configure the centos box to share the printer
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3281[18:21:07] <Agiofws> greycat, but i got it to work with gnome
3282[18:21:14] <Agiofws> jelly-one, *
3283[18:21:16] <missmbob> Agiofws: i really dont remember. i talk to too many people. i have no idea.
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3286[18:21:47] <Agiofws> if you clock on the link but it seems if done everything i've did in the past
3287[18:21:52] <Agiofws> click*
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3290[18:22:28] <Agiofws> !skylake
3291[18:22:28] <dpkg> an <intel-gfx> chipset requiring firmware. For jessie support, enable <backports> and <non-free sources>, then install <bpo kernel>, xserver-xorg-video-intel and firmware-misc-nonfree from jessie-backports.
3292[18:22:33] <missmbob> i looked. i have more faith in intel devs than what we did, though. maybe we just got lucky and missed a bug and then it bit us in the ass
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3295[18:22:44] <missmbob> now you're hitting said bug that you werent before. *shrug*
3296[18:23:02] <Agiofws> i DONT WANT TO INSTALL ANOTHER DISTRO :)
3297[18:23:04] <Agiofws> lol
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3299[18:23:18] <missmbob> Agiofws: another distro wont have 4.9 nightly either
3300[18:23:27] <missmbob> just wait a bit. it'll finish compiling in not too long
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3326[18:31:08] <gustavohmsilva> Hi guys! Can I make a stupid question? I'm trying to start a new desktop environment OVER ssh, how can I do that?
3327[18:31:38] <Agiofws> startx ?
3328[18:31:39] <gustavohmsilva> they Idea is that I would ssh a computer that has one graphic interface (unity)
3329[18:31:53] <somiaj> gustavohmsilva: you don't really run desktop enviroments over ssh, are you thinking something more like vnc?
3330[18:31:57] <missmbob> gustavohmsilva: please go to #ubuntu for support
3331[18:32:17] <gustavohmsilva> no dude, was an example missmbob
3332[18:32:25] <Agiofws> startx :0 somthing liike that ?
3333[18:32:55] <gustavohmsilva> Agiofws: startx :0 would start X on the environment already running
3334[18:32:58] <Agiofws> drm-intel-nightly is 4.9-rc1 + more recent stuff. 4.9-rc1 had a number of problems we ran into which are fixed in -nightly
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3336[18:33:16] <missmbob> yes
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3338[18:33:20] <missmbob> i know :P
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3340[18:34:09] <missmbob> Agiofws: it's not my first time on the rodeo of nightly kernels. dont worry
3341[18:34:36] <gustavohmsilva> i have a server running KDE with a running ssh server, my idea is to login on this machine over ssh, then go to ctrl+alt+F2 (or any other environment) and from there start gnome, then tunnel that gnome GUI through ssh to my guest computer
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3354[18:40:01] <gustavohmsilva> I understand that this is a little (a lot) crazy, but the thing is that I'm using debian on an ARM single board computer, and he is running a small GUI, specific for this little device (PocketCHIP)
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3358[18:40:36] <gustavohmsilva> Today, I connect to it through SSH or VNC, over VNC I can only see the small GUI, and through SSH, well, is a terminal
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3366[18:42:01] <gustavohmsilva> I would love to be able to make something more unified... Having locally, on the device (and its 480x272 screen) the GUI that he already has (and that fit's it perfectly), and when I connect to it remotely, run a full XFCE desktop GUI
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3376[18:44:47] <habs> Does gcc-6 have a circular build dependency in g++-6 (same source package), or am I reading this wrong? replaced-url
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3379[18:45:19] <habs> If so, then if I'm trying to build gcc-6 what can I do about this?
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3383[18:45:52] <ChrisH> gustavohmsilva: I would use x11vnc on the existing KDE and connect via vncviewer.... or maybe KDE has it's own vnc implementation. I used x11vnc in the past.
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3386[18:47:22] <gustavohmsilva> ChrisH> The thing is that instead of KDE (which I used as an example only), I have this little small GUI made for a 480x272 screen.
3387[18:47:39] <gustavohmsilva> but I know that this device can handle a full blown XFCE in it.
3388[18:47:49] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: still unclear on your goal.
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3390[18:49:12] <gustavohmsilva> My goal would be log in on another environment (ctrl+alt+Function key) over SSH and then do Startxfce tunneled to the computer I'm using to access the dev board remotely
3391[18:49:34] <gustavohmsilva> that way I can have the small GUI on my little dev board and a full XFCE interface remotelly
3392[18:49:36] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: you might want to try starting a plain X server with a single xterm on the computer with the larger display, then running ssh -X to the target machine
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3396[18:51:28] <gustavohmsilva> the computer with the larger display is the guest
3397[18:51:33] <gustavohmsilva> the dev board is the host
3398[18:51:46] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: ssh -X
3399[18:52:27] <peterrooney> the dev board then uses the "guest" X server for program display
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3404[18:56:10] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: so, on the guest (ctrl+alt+Function2) run, "X :1 vt8 &" , switch back to vt2, "xterm& &", and then switch back to vt8 . Finally, "ssh -X user@dev.board.address" in that xterm so you can run startxfce4 on the dev board but see it on the guest machine.
3405[18:56:52] <greycat> you'd have to specify a DISPLAY for that xterm
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3407[18:57:53] <candidat___> hello greycat
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3409[18:57:59] <greycat> I'm a bit confused by his description, but it kinda sounded like he wanted to do XDMCP to a remote host.
3410[18:58:02] <candidat___> hello @ others
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3412[18:59:08] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: greycat is correct, your second command should be "DISPLAY=:1 xterm &"
3413[18:59:26] * peterrooney feels like a fool for forgetting that
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3417[19:01:03] <gustavohmsilva> hum
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3426[19:05:38] <ChrisH> gustavohmsilva: you might want to start vncserver on the remote box like shown here: replaced-url
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3440[19:10:31] <o|0_0|v_Peace> So I upgraded to stretch, but realized I need gcc-4.9 should I reinstall and use jessie-backports instead or can I still salvage the situation?
3441[19:10:51] <missmbob> !tell o|0_0|v_Peace about debian-next
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3497[19:35:09] <yawgo> hey, i have a new debian 8 install and my sound only works if im root
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3499[19:35:39] <yawgo> ie i try restarting pulseaudio as normal user and that doesnt work etiher (permission denied)
3500[19:35:43] <yawgo> when i do it as root it works
3501[19:35:44] <yawgo> any tips?
3502[19:35:58] <yawgo> likewise speaker-test only works if im root
3503[19:35:58] <greycat> Add your user to the audio group.
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3505[19:36:05] <yawgo> greycat: i did, that didn't solve it
3506[19:36:16] <greycat> Then log out and back in.
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3509[19:36:42] <yawgo> also did that :S
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3517[19:38:39] <yawgo> specifically it says "Failed to create secure directory /run/user/1000/pulse Permission denied"
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3524[19:39:56] <missmbob> is pulse in the audio group? i dont see how it wouldn't be
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3528[19:40:30] <missmbob> i'm out of ideas after that
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3530[19:40:55] <greycat> id; ls -ld /run/user/1000 /run/user/1000/pulse
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3538[19:43:30] <yawgo> Ok I may have screwed something up along the way of messing with permissions
3539[19:43:33] <yawgo> now i cant even access my home folder
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3541[19:44:16] <greycat> That sounds probable, given the previous symptoms....
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3544[19:45:08] <yawgo> hmmmmmm
3545[19:45:19] <yawgo> stat /home/user/ says im still the owner?
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3547[19:45:37] <yawgo> what should be the permissions, it's at 0644
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3550[19:45:53] <greycat> Perms on a DIRECTORY should be 755 unless there is a specific reason to use a different set.
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3556[19:46:50] <yawgo> thanks! Ok im back to normal in home
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3558[19:47:14] <candidat___> chmod
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3560[19:48:05] <candidat___> rwx rw- r--
3561[19:48:07] <yawgo> uid=1000(zanzi) gid=1000(zanzi) groups=1000(zanzi),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),110(lpadmin),113(scanner),118(bluetooth)
3562[19:48:08] <yawgo> drwx------ 6 zanzi zanzi 120 Oct 21 18:27 /run/user/1000 drwx------ 2 root root 80 Oct 21 18:22 /run/user/1000/pulse
3563[19:48:08] <candidat___> ?
3564[19:48:19] <yawgo> greycat: ^theres the output of those commands
3565[19:48:36] <greycat> chown zanzi /run/user/1000/pulse
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3571[19:49:25] <missmbob> and stop playing with permissions :P
3572[19:50:26] <yawgo> yay! i can hear things again
3573[19:50:28] <yawgo> thanks, greycat
3574[19:50:29] <yawgo> :D
3575[19:50:54] <yawgo> missmob: i only started playing with them after the sound broke! Im not sure what broke it initially :S
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3577[19:51:25] <greycat> My guess is "you tried to start pulseaudio with sudo while logged into a user session"
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3583[19:52:55] <yawgo> greycat: hmm, i wasnt sudoeing into it, and no sound was working at all
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3586[19:53:07] <greycat> *shrug* 'twas just a guess
3587[19:53:19] <yawgo> greycat: well,thanks for the help anyway :)
3588[19:53:22] <yawgo> see ya later!
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3611[20:01:57] <dcz> hello , do you guys have any thesis idea ?
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3614[20:02:31] <missmbob> greycat after all that, building the nightly for him, Agiofws left. just finished compiling. asshole.
3615[20:02:48] <greycat> :-/
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3622[20:08:20] <rapha> hi!
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3624[20:08:33] <rapha> in jessie, how do you install virtualenv for python2.7 (not 3)?
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3628[20:09:22] <somiaj> rapha: 2.7 is the default python in jessie, do you really need a virtualenv? I think it is similar
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3632[20:11:24] <somiaj> rapha: python-virtualenv is the python2 version of virtualenv
3633[20:11:53] <rapha> somiaj: mailman3 doesn't yet have debian packages and the installation requires virtualenv.
3634[20:12:10] <rapha> somiaj: python-virtualenv would be fine, unfortunately it doesn't include a virtualenv binary.
3635[20:12:12] <somiaj> rapha: also looks like you can specificy with python with virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python2.7 for instance.
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3637[20:12:28] <somiaj> rapha: it suggest virtualenv which has the binary.
3638[20:12:40] <rapha> which pulls in all of python3
3639[20:12:41] <somiaj> sorry recommends, and recommended packages should be installed
3640[20:13:13] <rapha> but okay, won't hurt having python3 installed as well i guess
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3643[20:13:39] <somiaj> I do agree it seems weird that if virtualenv is supporting both the default python2.7 and python3 that it is hardcoded to included python3
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3645[20:14:01] <somiaj> But you will have to talk to the matianer, check the bts as to why this is the case
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3647[20:14:11] <rapha> thank you somiaj!
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3649[20:14:48] <TomTomTo1> virtualenv itself is written in python3.
3650[20:15:01] <somiaj> ahh that would explain it
3651[20:15:06] <rapha> oh, well, okay then
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3654[20:15:12] <TomTomTo1> or rather the script that starts it.
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3724[20:48:03] <hexadecimal> hello
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3729[20:49:57] <somiaj> greetings hexadecimal, do you have a debian support question (if so just ask)
3730[20:51:46] <user1> hey, can you use github right now?
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3733[20:54:00] <missmbob> user1: there's a huge DDoS going now right now affecting sites like twitter. problem is a ton of sites embed code from platform.twitter.com for "sharing"...so depending on the site, the internet sucks right now
3734[20:54:15] <o|0_0|v_Peace> You can add 192.30.253.113 github.com to your /etc/hosts file user1
3735[20:55:13] <user1> ah, so people have issues all around the world, not just East Coast, US?
3736[20:55:31] <hexadecimal> somiaj: hello, nope, everything is fine. thanks.
3737[20:55:37] <missmbob> user1: i'm having problems with a uk vpn too
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3739[20:56:09] <somiaj> the github.com sites I use seem to be working.
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3741[20:56:44] <missmbob> for me most things are up and down randomly. as you'd expect from DDoS
3742[20:57:16] <user1> missmbob: thats a relief!
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3745[20:58:00] <user1> thanks guys, o|0_0|v_Peace, missmbob, somiaj! <3
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3749[20:58:37] <Kobaz> how do i update my ssl cipher suites for gnutls/openssl for wheezy?
3750[20:58:52] <somiaj> Kobaz: what is wrong with the versions supplied by wheezy?
3751[20:58:55] <Kobaz> i'm having problems connecting to a lot of high security ssl sites because they just drop the connection
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3753[20:59:19] <AciD`> hey, I just copied via `rsync -a -h -H source dest` all the files from a ddrescue backup image. Everything worked great, apart that I now have 13GB that are free, but not available. `df -h` returns : "/dev/sdj6 375G 362G 0 100% /home" why, and how can I fix that?
3754[20:59:52] <AciD`> Here you can see that on the 375G partition, only 362G are used
3755[20:59:55] <somiaj> Kobaz: you could check to see if wheezy-backports has updates. If it is due to the versions in wheezy being outdated for your use you may have to consider upgrading to jessie.
3756[21:00:01] <Kobaz> i can connect on a jessie system, but not wheezy
3757[21:00:02] <AciD`> but 0 space is available
3758[21:00:10] <somiaj> Kobaz: it could also be some other issue too.
3759[21:00:11] <Kobaz> yeah i was looking at back ports
3760[21:00:27] <cruncher> AciD`, did you check the reserved blocks?
3761[21:00:34] <somiaj> AciD`: what cruncher said.
3762[21:00:44] <Kobaz> somiaj: i have some debugs around somewhere for this, but it's a ssl cipher issue, it's lacking one of the newer ones that everyone wants these days
3763[21:00:50] <AciD`> cruncher -> nope, how can you do that? I never heard of reserved block before :o
3764[21:00:52] <somiaj> Kobaz: do you know the name of the package that contains these ciphers?
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3768[21:01:22] <cruncher> AciD`, sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep "Reserved block count" (replace sda1 with your partition)
3769[21:01:24] <RoyK> Kobaz: openssl has been updated in jessie, and using too much backports may lead to things not working correctly - could you upgrade it to jessie?
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3772[21:01:33] <cruncher> but you could have googled and learned something ;-)
3773[21:01:41] <Kobaz> it was on squeeze
3774[21:01:46] <Kobaz> i just finished updating from that
3775[21:01:52] <AciD`> cruncher -> thanks, I was searching the web when you highlighted me ;)
3776[21:01:56] <Kobaz> yeaaaah i can move to jessie, i was hoping to not have to change too many things
3777[21:02:08] <RoyK> Kobaz: I guess jessie would be better
3778[21:02:27] <AciD`> I get "Reserved block count: 4987278"
3779[21:02:28] <cruncher> AciD`, and if you want to turn them off: sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1
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3781[21:02:38] <AciD`> thanks again!
3782[21:02:39] <somiaj> Kobaz: also backports don't have proper securtiy support, so you may not want to use somethign without security support for this.
3783[21:02:48] <RoyK> AciD`: tune2fs -m.1 /dev/blah
3784[21:02:56] <AciD`> as it's a home partition, I guess I do not need any reserved block their
3785[21:02:56] <cruncher> AciD`, but what partition are you checking?
3786[21:03:07] <cruncher> the root partition? some data partition?
3787[21:03:08] <AciD`> it's /home
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3790[21:03:17] <cruncher> ah ok, thats fine
3791[21:03:21] <RoyK> you shouldn't need anything reserved for root on /home
3792[21:03:26] <somiaj> AciD`: they are useful in keeping your filesystem from getting fragmented and other things. But the default of 5% can be a bit high on filesystems that are large
3793[21:03:31] <RoyK> for the root, perhaps a little, depending on its size
3794[21:03:38] <AciD`> yep
3795[21:03:52] <cruncher> yes, but nowadays, like on a 2TB, 5% is huge, as somiaj said
3796[21:03:56] <AciD`> bingo, I just got 13G back
3797[21:03:58] <somiaj> they can still be useful on /home, but you may not need the 5%
3798[21:04:03] <RoyK> but with the normal disk sizes today, the standard 5% is way out
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3800[21:04:28] <somiaj> I drop mine to 2-3% which is more than enough but I dno't have space issues
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3802[21:04:55] <somiaj> I think droping it to 0% could potinetally cause your filesystem to get to fragmented and slow down
3803[21:05:06] <AciD`> now, I'm wondering if the rsync from the source to that /home partition worked as intended since it filled the partition totally, but did not output any 'disk full error'
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3805[21:05:16] <RoyK> somiaj: no, it won't affect fragmentation
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3807[21:05:33] <AciD`> what are the odds on a 362G data transfer that it stop JUST at the bit count limit? ;)
3808[21:05:34] <cruncher> AciD`, you would have got an error from rsync if it was like that
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3810[21:05:42] <RoyK> somiaj: full filesystems affect fragmentation, not whatever's reserved for root
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3812[21:05:53] <AciD`> (not, /home is ext4)
3813[21:06:00] <somiaj> RoyK: so then why dose the man page "Reserving some number of filesystem blocks for use by privileged processes is done to avoid filesystem fragmentation..."
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3815[21:06:23] <RoyK> somiaj: perhaps for those lazy enough not to monitor their filesystems :P
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3817[21:06:55] <RoyK> it's not very hard to setup munin or similar systems to monitor disk space and report when things look bad
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3820[21:07:26] <user1> o|0_0|v_Peace: in times like this, how can I be sure this adress is really GitHub's? I can see certs details, but everything there only mention domain name, not IP adress. Does certificates only work that way?
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3822[21:07:52] <RoyK> somiaj: anyway - 5% is a *lot* if you have a large filesystem, like 10TB or so
3823[21:07:57] <somiaj> yea, but if you have enough resreved space you shouldn't need to monintor things as it really shouldn't be getting fragmented. But there are other uses for the resrved space to suggestion making it 0% is probably not the best option. replaced-url
3824[21:08:09] <somiaj> RoyK: yea, 5% is way to much for what it is needed are large filesystems, that I will agree.
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3826[21:08:43] <RoyK> somiaj: well, whoever doesn't monitor their servers should be sent back to school
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3829[21:09:13] <RoyK> somiaj: is apt-get install munin really that hard ;)
3830[21:09:30] <missmbob> user1: i wouldn't trust anyone. i looked it up for you, though. replaced-url
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3833[21:11:42] <SpeedyG> but who says that website resolves to the correct ip's :D
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3836[21:12:46] <user1> missmbob: thank you
3837[21:13:01] <somiaj> SpeedyG: replaced-url
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3882[21:32:20] <njumdl2014> How do I known which debian maling lists I subsribed before?
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3891[21:35:51] <babilen> njumdl2014: Before what?
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3902[21:39:04] <mtottenh> Hi. I currently am developing a package which installs an init script into the default runlevels (2-5) using 'dh_installinit -- defaults 20 15', I'm trying to change it so that instead of run levels 2-5 it gets put in the startup runlevel (rcS.d), if I try doing 'dh_installinit -- start 20 S . stop 15 0 1 6 .' I get complaints that init script symlinks already exist when installing the package.
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3904[21:39:20] <njumdl2014> I have subscribed many debian mailing lists one month ago. However, I could not remember all of them. How could I get all the maling lists I subscribed?
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3907[21:40:30] <njumdl2014> babilen: Do you have idea about this ?
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3909[21:41:18] <jhutchins_wk> !mailing list
3910[21:41:18] <dpkg> Mailing lists allow large numbers of people to share knowledge and experiences, these communications are also persistent. See replaced-url
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3912[21:41:35] <jhutchins_wk> njumdl2014: I believe you can manage your subscriptions from that page.
3913[21:42:06] <mtottenh> Alternately if there is a channel which would be more suitable for this question would somone be able to point me in the right direction?
3914[21:42:15] <TomTomTo1> !subscribed
3915[21:42:16] <dpkg> Not sure which Debian <mailing lists> you are subscribed to? Send mail to majordomo@lists.debian.org with "which your.email@address" (without quotes) in the message body.
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3917[21:42:34] <jhutchins_wk> TomTomTo1: Cool.
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3921[21:43:39] <antzero> Anyone has successfully installed amdgpu-pro on debian?
3922[21:43:41] <jhutchins_wk> mtottenh: You're not using systemd?
3923[21:43:43] <antzero> I have a 380X
3924[21:43:49] <antzero> can't find any guide
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3927[21:44:44] <mtottenh> jhutchins_wk: No, this is a package that is going to be used on sysvinit based systems.
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3934[21:46:37] <sweettea> hi folks, what is the minimal I can do to properly patch a deb 7 box against dirty cow?
3935[21:46:51] <sweettea> I want to avoid updating unnecessary packages
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3937[21:47:03] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
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3939[21:47:05] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.8-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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3941[21:47:20] <greycat> sweettea: upgrade the kernel, duh
3942[21:47:48] <habs> Does gcc-6 have a circular build dependency in g++-6 (same source package), or am I reading this wrong? replaced-url
3943[21:47:51] <habs> If so, then if I'm trying to build gcc-6 what can I do about this?
3944[21:48:02] <sweettea> yes duh
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3948[21:48:41] <njumdl2014> dpkg: without any subject in the email?
3949[21:48:43] <dpkg> njumdl2014: I don't know, could you explain it?
3950[21:49:11] <mtottenh> habs: I'm not sure if this is the 'debian way' but I always just cloned the git repo, checked out the 6.xx release tags, ran the script in the repo to download the source deps and then did ./configure && make && make install
3951[21:49:15] <TomTomTo1> habs: gcc-6 in the list is the binary package. it is provided by the gcc-6 source package.
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3953[21:50:33] <TomTomTo1> s/provided by/built from/
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3955[21:50:58] <njumdl2014> One email consists Receiver, Subject, Message body in my mind. You mean no Subject in the email to majordomo@lists.debian.org?
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3959[21:52:00] <TomTomTo1> njumdl2014: the subject is probably not relevant.
3960[21:52:03] <antzero> No more debian-next irc channel?
3961[21:52:11] <habs> TomTomTo1: Yes, but if I want to build the gcc-6 binary package from the gcc-6 source package, wouldn't I need g++-6 and gnat-6 which are adeps and are also built from the gcc-6 source package, so it creates a dependency loop?
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3964[21:52:37] <greycat> !debian-next
3965[21:52:38] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3969[21:53:09] <babilen> njumdl2014: You can use whatever you want
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3973[21:56:14] <habs> mtottenh: OK, what script are you referring to though?
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3976[21:57:30] <TomTomTo1> habs: yep.
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3985[21:59:34] <njumdl2014> I send "which myemailaddress" to Majordomo@lists.debian.org, but only responds with "Reply with your HELP request", not my subscribed mailing lists.
3986[21:59:39] <njumdl2014> dpkg:
3987[21:59:39] <dpkg> njumdl2014: i don't know
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3992[22:00:46] <user1> njumdl2014: aren't there two spaces in quotes? also tried writing "help" to that address?
3993[22:01:28] <njumdl2014> replaced-url
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3995[22:02:35] <TomTomTo1> njumdl2014: i just did exactly what the bot described and got a reply with all the lists i'm subscribed to.
3996[22:02:51] <TomTomTo1> i guess you did something wrong.
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4000[22:03:49] <mtottenh> habs: I believe it's 'contrib/download_prerequisites' in the source tree
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4004[22:05:06] <mtottenh> Also note that you have to create an external build dir for gcc, it doesn't support in-tree builds. (So: git clone ... && mkdir ../gcc-build && ./contrib/download_prerequisites && cd ../gcc-build && ../gcc-git/configure && make && make install)
4005[22:05:22] <user1> TomTomTo1: have you posted anything on these mailing lists? Isn't that what this bot supposed to do? (your email in "From:" field) (vide gnome paste upper)
4006[22:05:22] <mtottenh> something along those lines
4007[22:05:30] <njumdl2014> TomTomTo1: how did you write your email? Receiver: majordomo@lists.debian.org; Message Body : which XXX@XXX.com? right?
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4011[22:06:35] <user1> "(...This command will only be executed if the address queried has some connection to the From: or Reply-To: address."
4012[22:06:37] <quan> Anyone know dhcpd?
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4014[22:06:53] <cruncher> quan, yes, i know him
4015[22:07:16] <cruncher> he is quite a nice guy
4016[22:07:18] <cruncher> !ask
4017[22:07:18] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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4019[22:07:54] <TomTomTo1> i didn't post anything on the mailing list. i used the same email address i queried to send the mail.
4020[22:08:05] <quan> lol ok, I can not get this dhcp server to work to save my life.
4021[22:08:10] <gebruiker> I just figured out that during the debian installation I have /dev/sda1 linux / and /dev/sda2 8.5G nothing and then /dev/sda5 8.5GB swap
4022[22:08:13] <TomTomTo1> njumdl2014: yes, just like the bot describes.
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4025[22:08:25] <gebruiker> how do I merge the /dev/sda2 with /dev/sda1?
4026[22:08:32] <quan> replaced-url
4027[22:08:56] <quan> The car just will not take its IP.
4028[22:09:08] <quan> The server ACKs but no IP.
4029[22:09:51] <quan> When I set the range, -reluctantly- the car takes an IP in the range... but loses it after about 3 minutes.
4030[22:09:55] <techno2900> Hello ! I have a problem with my computer, I can't connect to a wifi network
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4034[22:11:21] <techno2900> Thank you in advance for your help :)
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4037[22:12:32] <techno2900> Anybody can help me ?
4038[22:12:59] <mtn> techno2900: that is very vague. give details
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4040[22:13:37] <cruncher> quan, is it a car pc? did you try without the "deny bootp"?
4041[22:13:43] <techno2900> mtn : Now, I use my android phone for the internet but I use my phone for the wifi because my network hardware don't work on debian
4042[22:13:48] <user1> techno2900: Some more info, please? Which Desktop Environment are you using? How are you trying to connect? What's wrong or what isn't working?
4043[22:14:38] <techno2900> user1 : I use gnome, I'm connect with ethernet with my android and my network hardware don't work on debian so I can't connect to a network wireless
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4045[22:16:52] <cra1g321> likely missing firmware
4046[22:17:21] <techno2900> cra1g321 : Yes
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4049[22:17:27] <user1> gebruiker: IMO, if sda1 have working filesystem, you can't (or I don't know how to do it)
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4053[22:17:56] <user1> techno2900: Most of the times I've had to install firmware-iwlwifi and that's all (from nonfree).
4054[22:18:05] <techno2900> cra1g321 : Missing firmware for network
4055[22:18:11] <user1> techno2900: And restart, ofc.
4056[22:18:41] <TomTomTo1> let's not guess ^^
4057[22:18:45] <techno2900> user1 : I already install firmware-iwlwifi but I don't know what I going after the installation
4058[22:18:54] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: is it a pci or usb wifi card?
4059[22:18:58] <cra1g321> ^ that
4060[22:19:09] <user1> TomTomTo1: ;-)
4061[22:19:09] <techno2900> TomTomTo1: I don't know.
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4064[22:19:29] <techno2900> TomTomTo1 : I think it's a pci but i'm not sure.
4065[22:19:44] <TomTomTo1> is it a laptop with internal wifi or did you plug a usb wifi dongle in?
4066[22:19:44] <user1> techno2900: Show us (on pastebin) output of `lspci -nn | grep Net` and `lsusb` (without quotes)
4067[22:19:57] <techno2900> laptop with internal wifi
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4069[22:20:44] <cra1g321> user1, better to use paste.debian.net
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4071[22:21:27] <user1> cra1g321: thanks
4072[22:21:39] <techno2900> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection [8086:4229] (rev 61)
4073[22:21:49] <techno2900> I try with paste debian but I have a error message about spam
4074[22:22:03] <user1> quan: Aren't Car supposed to be before subnets?
4075[22:22:10] <TomTomTo1> ,pciid 8086:4229
4076[22:22:11] <judd> [8086:4229] is 'PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwl4965', 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata_generic' in jessie. See also replaced-url
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4078[22:22:52] <quan> user1, I don't know, is it?
4079[22:23:14] <quan> I'll try.
4080[22:24:09] <techno2900> okay
4081[22:24:41] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: the driver should be automatically loaded on restart if you have iwlwifi installed.
4082[22:25:03] <quan> user1: Nah, no change.
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4084[22:25:23] <quan> replaced-url
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4086[22:26:31] <techno2900> so I make what ?
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4088[22:26:35] <somiaj> if your card is extremly new you'll the a kernel and firmware from backports.
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4090[22:27:07] <techno2900> okay but how can I install the hardware for my network card
4091[22:27:42] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: do you see wlan0 if you run "ip a" ? and what does network-manager show under Wi-Fi Networks?
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4093[22:28:23] <cruncher> quan, no, the order is ok
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4095[22:28:33] <techno2900> TomTomTo1 : I have ethernet because I use my android phone now for a modem
4096[22:28:53] <TomTomTo1> that's not what i asked.
4097[22:29:01] <quan> cruncher: I've researched this extensively and just don't see the problem.
4098[22:29:02] <cruncher> quan, to get closer to the problem, try a simple config to see if it can get a ip
4099[22:29:04] <techno2900> TomTomTo1 : Sorry :(
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4101[22:29:23] <cruncher> like range 100-200, reserver ip 4, no fancy options
4102[22:29:33] <quan> When I set a range it does get an IP, but only seems to hold it for a minute.
4103[22:29:33] <cruncher> just simplify your conf
4104[22:29:43] <techno2900> TomTomTo1 : I don't understand your question.
4105[22:29:48] <cruncher> quan, yes, but you said it gets an ip from the range
4106[22:29:49] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: no problem. but knowing if wlan0 is listed if you run the command above would be helpful.
4107[22:29:57] <user1> techno2900: Have you restarted your laptop after installing iwlwifi?
4108[22:30:02] <techno2900> yes
4109[22:30:03] <cruncher> which lets me believe the reserved host entry isnt processed
4110[22:30:16] <quan> cruncher: I see.
4111[22:30:18] <cruncher> i hope you entered the mac address correctly ;-)
4112[22:30:37] <quan> Yep, triple-checked that.
4113[22:30:53] <quan> I'll simplify.
4114[22:31:34] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: ok, so it has an entry for wlan0. and "lsmod | grep iwl4965" returns a line? if so, the drives loaded correctly.
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4118[22:31:52] <lisk0v> What is the command to display what IP addresses my machine is connected to?
4119[22:32:12] <greycat> You probably want to start with netstat -an
4120[22:32:22] <techno2900> I restart my computer
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4122[22:33:25] <techno2900> okay now, I'm confuse with my problem !
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4127[22:34:15] <TomTomTo1> techno2900: gnome has the network-manager icon at the top bar. what does it say if you click on it below "Wi-Fi Networks"?
4128[22:35:20] <techno2900> I don't have wi-fi network I have USB Ethernet
4129[22:35:24] <techno2900> TomTomto1
4130[22:35:49] <TomTomTo1> you said you wanted to connect to wifi.
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4132[22:36:29] <techno2900> Yes but a hardware for wifi miss so I can't connect to wifi network
4133[22:36:39] <user1> techno2900: Does your laptop has a switch or a button with Wi-Fi icon?
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4138[22:38:11] <techno2900> user1 : No not for the moment
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4151[22:40:41] <user1> techno2900: I mean physical switch, i.e. from the right, left, front of the bottom case, maybe on top of the keyboard?
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4153[22:40:48] <techno2900> user1 : Yes I have a switch
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4158[22:41:59] <user1> techno2900: When you switch it, does some small LED lamp starts blinking? Or new options are visible in Gnome Network Manager?
4159[22:42:16] <techno2900> user1 : no
4160[22:42:27] <somiaj> user1: rfkill well let you know if such a switch is toggled
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4162[22:43:28] <somiaj> user1: there are also soft kill swtiches (not hardware ones) that drivers need to toggle on/off
4163[22:43:36] <user1> somiaj: :(
4164[22:43:37] <somiaj> techno2900: ^^ (as well)
4165[22:43:49] <user1> techno2900: Try (as root): rfkill list
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4167[22:44:07] <techno2900> user1 : No because my hardware for network don't work
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4179[22:46:47] <techno2900> So I make what ?
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4182[22:48:05] <user1> techno2900: Paste for us output of: (as root) "rfkill list" and (as anyone) "lspci -k 8086:4229"
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4184[22:48:27] <TomTomTo1> you likely need to install rfkill first.
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4186[22:48:50] <techno2900> Yes I know...
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4193[22:50:56] <techno2900> TomTomTo1 : I install rfkill but lspci -k 8086:4229 don't work
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4197[22:52:16] <TomTomTo1> that would be something like "lspci -k | grep -i network"
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4201[22:52:49] <techno2900> TomTomto1 : 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
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4203[22:53:03] <TomTomTo1> user1: ^ ^.^
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4210[22:55:42] <user1> techno2900: lspci -k -d 8086:4229 (my mistake)
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4215[22:56:21] <techno2900> user1 : 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
4216[22:56:22] <techno2900> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Vaio VGN-SZ79SN_C
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4218[22:57:00] <user1> techno2900: Could you paste this on paste.debian.net? There's 2 lines missing
4219[22:57:09] <user1> techno2900: Also, what about "rfkill list"?
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4225[22:58:59] <jhamlin> What's the story with this Dirty Cow thing. Is stable safe?
4226[22:59:22] <greycat> There is a security update for it already. Install, re'boot.
4227[22:59:26] <teraflops> yes it is
4228[22:59:36] <greycat> s/'//
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4231[22:59:55] <jhamlin> was the update today? I did some updates today but don't recall seeing the kernel updated
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4233[23:00:16] <greycat> -- Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> Wed, 19 Oct 2016 06:27:03 +0200
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4236[23:00:32] <techno2900> So I install what hardware
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4240[23:01:25] <candidat__> what is your method when you want to write commands and do something in the bash ?
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4242[23:01:40] <teraflops> in the bash^
4243[23:01:49] <techno2900> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
4244[23:01:49] <techno2900> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Vaio VGN-SZ79SN_C
4245[23:02:02] <greycat> candidat__: depends on what you want to do.
4246[23:02:08] <TomTomTo1> candidat__: rephrase, please.
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4249[23:03:12] <candidat__> how do you come from i want to do this or that, and search the tools from all the commands, and then write the command ?
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4251[23:03:42] <user1> TomTomTo1: ^ ^.^
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4253[23:03:51] <user1> not
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4257[23:04:13] <greycat> Partly by experience. Partly by asking others. Partly by searching Google. Partly by trying "man -k someword" and reading the manuals.
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4269[23:07:32] <candidat__> greycat, that s interresting
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4274[23:08:50] <user1> greycat: man has -k parameter? *thats interesting*
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4279[23:09:56] <greycat> It's one of the fundamental commands you should know, in order to learn new commands.
4280[23:10:06] <techno2900> I make what with my missing network hardware ?
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4286[23:11:06] <teraflops> candidat__: this tutorial is fine imo replaced-url
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4289[23:11:58] <cruncher> techno2900, i didnt follow all your issue.. you cant get a 4965 running?
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4293[23:12:55] <candidat__> teraflops, thanks man ! :-D
4294[23:12:59] <teraflops> np
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4299[23:13:33] <ferna> hello if the system have become ro will a fsck at reboot set it back on rw?
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4307[23:16:03] <teraflops> ferna: you're assuming is ro because the fs is borked
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4309[23:16:43] <ferna> yes?
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4311[23:17:01] <teraflops> how the hell would I know
4312[23:17:25] <ferna> Its telling me / is read only fsck will fix?
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4316[23:18:15] <teraflops> ferna: are you asking me what is your system telling to you? or you are just being sarcastic/a dick?
4317[23:19:02] <ferna> NO, I just want to know if fsck at boot will fix set / back to rw?
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4319[23:20:00] <teraflops> perhaps if your lucky and the reason is that the fw is borked
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4321[23:20:02] <teraflops> fs*
4322[23:20:16] <teraflops> you're* sorry
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4324[23:20:38] <mrrhq> Check fstab. If it says errors=ro, then errors in the fs are setting it to ro, if it says "ro", then it's read only by default.
4325[23:21:12] <ferna> Thanks
4326[23:21:12] <mrrhq> I mean errors=remount-ro
4327[23:21:17] <mrrhq> But yeah.
4328[23:21:34] <ferna> Thanks teraflops mrrhq
4329[23:22:03] <mrrhq> fsck will help in that case, but you'll have to do it from a rescue shell or from a live CD.
4330[23:22:05] <teraflops> in that case run a fsck -f and if it fixes things try remount -rw it
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4332[23:22:24] <teraflops> from a live cd ofc
4333[23:22:56] <teraflops> if all goes fine reboot
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4335[23:23:43] <ferna> Thanks
4336[23:23:45] <ferna> will try
4337[23:23:59] <teraflops> np, sorry for my bad mood
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4346[23:26:54] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Hello, can anyone here help me with my wifi?
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4350[23:29:45] <babilen> Probably
4351[23:30:04] <babilen> Bull3tM0nk3y: You migth want to read: replaced-url
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4353[23:30:20] <babilen> It's also not a bad idea to let people know what the actual problem is ;)
4354[23:30:23] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Awesome! I have a reddit post where I have the terminal outputs.
4355[23:30:32] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Ah, I'll go read. And I'll get the link!
4356[23:30:52] <Bull3tM0nk3y> replaced-url
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4360[23:32:02] <babilen> dpkg: RTL8188EE
4361[23:32:02] <dpkg> Realtek RTL8188EE-based PCIe wireless LAN devices (PCI ID 10ec:8179) are supported by the rtl8188ee Linux kernel driver introduced at Linux 3.10. Firmware from userspace is required (rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin) and packaged since firmware-realtek 0.39. Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: for device support, ask me about <bdo kernel> and install firmware-realtek from <wheezy-backports>.
4362[23:32:14] <babilen> Bull3tM0nk3y: Did you install the firmware?
4363[23:32:44] <Bull3tM0nk3y> What firmware?
4364[23:33:06] <babilen> That device needs firmware which is packaged in firmware-realtek which you find in "non-free"
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4366[23:33:12] <babilen> dpkg: non-free sources
4367[23:33:12] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
4368[23:33:22] <Bull3tM0nk3y> how do i find it?
4369[23:33:40] <babilen> I don't follow .. it is a package you can install with the package manager on jessie
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4371[23:34:01] <babilen> The name is "firmware-realtek" and you would install it with "apt install firmware-realtek"
4372[23:34:25] <Bull3tM0nk3y> ill try to look for that
4373[23:35:03] <babilen> So, you would edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and make sure that you have "main contrib non-free" in there. You'd then run "apt update" and "apt install firmware-realtek"
4374[23:35:25] <babilen> This assumes that you have network access on that box
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4377[23:37:16] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I have an eithenet cable. I was on the phone, sorry.
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4379[23:37:20] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I'll try that command line.
4380[23:37:44] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package firmware-realtek
4381[23:38:12] <missmbob> it's in non-free. add it to your sources.list
4382[23:38:13] <babilen> Did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that entries in there end in "main contrib non-free" rather than "main" ?
4383[23:38:26] <babilen> I think I mentioned that before ;)
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4386[23:39:17] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I did not edit it. How would I begin editing this file?
4387[23:39:24] <Bull3tM0nk3y> lemme go -- wait i know how
4388[23:39:30] <Bull3tM0nk3y> lemme just go ahead and get to the file
4389[23:39:34] <Bull3tM0nk3y> not new to linux, new to debian
4390[23:39:39] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I was on Ubuntu 16.10
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4392[23:40:12] <babilen> No problem
4393[23:40:21] <babilen> Just ask if something is unclear
4394[23:40:21] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Okay, I got my sources.list file opened
4395[23:40:24] <babilen> Good
4396[23:40:38] <Bull3tM0nk3y> What's next?
4397[23:40:42] <babilen> You have enties in there that presumably end in "main", do you?
4398[23:40:47] <babilen> *entries
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4400[23:40:53] <Bull3tM0nk3y> # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20160917-14:25]/ jessie main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20160917-14:25]/ jessie main deb replaced-url
4401[23:40:55] <Bull3tM0nk3y> yes
4402[23:41:04] <Bull3tM0nk3y> do you want me to use pastebin?
4403[23:41:13] <missmbob> obviously
4404[23:41:19] <babilen> Okay, edit each of those lines and make sure that they end in "main contrib non-free". Feel free to paste the end result to replaced-url
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4406[23:41:46] <Bull3tM0nk3y> so just replace "main" with "main contrib non-free"?
4407[23:41:48] <missmbob> after you edit you need to apt-get update
4408[23:41:49] <missmbob> yes
4409[23:41:55] <Bull3tM0nk3y> understood, gimme a sec
4410[23:42:18] <Bull3tM0nk3y> its in read-only mode. how do i get it to be edited?
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4412[23:42:51] <missmbob> you're on a live cd?
4413[23:42:54] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Nope.
4414[23:42:57] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Fresh install.
4415[23:42:59] <missmbob> were you root?
4416[23:43:17] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Hmmm, I don't think so. Let me try right clicking.
4417[23:43:36] <Bull3tM0nk3y> right clicking gives no "open as root" option
4418[23:43:43] <Bull3tM0nk3y> do i use the terminal?
4419[23:43:54] <missmbob> yes. in terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
4420[23:44:13] <Bull3tM0nk3y> done. ill go edit the file, thanks
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4424[23:45:33] <babilen> Bull3tM0nk3y: btw, you might want to install sudo at one point and run "adduser YOURUSERNAME sudo" to allow your user to use it
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4427[23:46:05] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I'll install sudo asap when I get my wifi and brightness fixed!
4428[23:46:06] <babilen> You'd have to relogin after that
4429[23:46:22] <Bull3tM0nk3y> now that its saved, apt update?
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4431[23:46:26] <babilen> Bull3tM0nk3y: Sure, no rush. Just thought I'd mention it
4432[23:46:31] <babilen> Yes, apt update
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4434[23:47:02] <Bull3tM0nk3y> I think it worked? Lemme try running the installer again.
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4439[23:47:51] <Bull3tM0nk3y> install finished sucessfully!
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4441[23:47:55] <babilen> yay!
4442[23:47:58] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Thank you!
4443[23:48:00] <Bull3tM0nk3y> What's next?
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4445[23:48:19] <babilen> Install sudo, add yourself to the "sudo" group with "adduser YOURUSERNAME sudo" (replace it with your actual username) and then restart
4446[23:48:29] <Bull3tM0nk3y> and then come right back here?
4447[23:48:37] <babilen> That would be the idea, yes
4448[23:48:54] <Bull3tM0nk3y> restarting will also allow my wifi-card to be read, correct?
4449[23:49:11] <babilen> That's the plan :)
4450[23:49:45] <Bull3tM0nk3y> replaced-url
4451[23:49:50] <Bull3tM0nk3y> i cant install sudo
4452[23:50:03] <babilen> Ah
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4455[23:50:15] <babilen> Edit your sources.list again and remove the line with the CD in there.
4456[23:50:20] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Also, is your username a referance to homestarrunner?
4457[23:50:28] <babilen> Paste the result so that we can make sure you have everything you need in there
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4459[23:50:46] <babilen> Bull3tM0nk3y: I don't know .. what's the name of your user on your box?
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4461[23:51:06] <Bull3tM0nk3y> Oh, I was refing your username here, on the irc
4462[23:51:16] <Bull3tM0nk3y> there was a joke about "babe aliens, babe-liens"
4463[23:51:35] <babilen> Okay .. that's a new one. It is not related to that at all.
4464[23:51:40] <Bull3tM0nk3y> ha
4465[23:51:41] <Bull3tM0nk3y> sorry
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4468[23:51:59] <babilen> No worries :)
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4472[23:53:37] <Bull3tM0nk3y> so you want me to delete the line that states: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Offical amd64 CD (this goes on for a bit)
4473[23:53:42] <babilen> Indeed
4474[23:53:47] <Bull3tM0nk3y> righto
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4476[23:54:05] <babilen> You have to run "apt update" after that. I'd recommend to paste the sources.list to replaced-url
4477[23:54:20] <Bull3tM0nk3y> righto, gimme a sec
4478[23:54:24] <babilen> No rush
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4481[23:54:48] <Bull3tM0nk3y> replaced-url
4482[23:54:50] <Bull3tM0nk3y> did i do it?
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4485[23:55:55] <Bull3tM0nk3y> also while running "apt update" while under "su" i got this:
4486[23:56:06] <Bull3tM0nk3y> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
4487[23:56:11] <Bull3tM0nk3y> even though no other installs is going
4488[23:56:28] <babilen> That sounds as if you have another "apt" process running
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4490[23:56:42] <babilen> Maybe the one that asks if you want to use the CD?
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4492[23:56:58] <Bull3tM0nk3y> i dont think i do. ill go ahead and close terminal
4493[23:57:02] <babilen> Okay, those sources look fine
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4497[23:57:44] <Bull3tM0nk3y> nope, i restarted terminal completely and its still giving me the error
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4500[23:58:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1654
4501[23:58:45] <babilen> *shrug*
4502[23:58:55] <babilen> You can either hunt it down or restart your box
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4507[23:59:50] <Bull3tM0nk3y_> and im back
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