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56 [00:08:20] <debkad> zackychan, ask in ##linux
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58 [00:08:56] <debkad> zackychan, autostart are same for debian and ubuntu ( i give to you a clue to start )
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77 [00:11:11] <zackychan> debkad. I tried with crontab and @reboot line and it worked !
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242 [00:23:34] <Lady-Aleena> Hello. What do I need to know about a new system to install Debian? I'm thinking CPU and memory, but anything else?
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245 [00:24:16] <Lady-Aleena> Also is there an install of Debian that can figure things out on its own?
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247 [00:24:29] <somiaj> Lady-Aleena: for a new system cpu/memeory should be sufficent. GPU and wifi seem to cause more issues in here.
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249 [00:24:48] <somiaj> Lady-Aleena: debian jessie will automatically detect most hardware and be up and working. wifi firmware is the most common issue I see.
250 [00:25:04] <somiaj> some gpu hardware (like optimous or if you want to use non-free drivers can take extra work)
251 [00:25:34] <cart_man> stones: Anyway im off to bed.. Thanks allor for the help dude!
252 [00:25:41] <Lady-Aleena> somiaj, Which package should I download and burn to a CD?
253 [00:25:43] <stoned> np
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255 [00:26:46] <Lady-Aleena> Do I want the complete installation package? (replaced-url
256 [00:26:47] <somiaj> Lady-Aleena: without any more info about your machine, I would suggest using the netinstall with non-free firmware included just in case you need it
257 [00:26:50] <somiaj> !firmware installer
258 [00:26:50] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
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261 [00:27:29] <somiaj> Lady-Aleena: Though you will have to download most software from the network during the install. But it will still automatically download and install the desktop you ask for.
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266 [00:28:04] <somiaj> Lady-Aleena: grab the dvd-1 if you just want a physical copy of all the packages and not use the network during the isntall. In this case you may have to manually add the non-free firmware later.
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272 [00:29:17] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so, plug in new tower, go to CMOS(?) to get CPU and memory available, replug this one in, download software and burn it to disk, then replug new one in and install. ACK!
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275 [00:29:37] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: as for 64bit vs 32bit, I suggest you download the installer for the arch you want. But there is a hybrid netinstall image that supports both 32bit and 64bit.
276 [00:29:37] <Lady_Aleena> All while I have a mosquito bite driving me nuts.
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279 [00:30:18] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so there is an install which can detect the bit thingy.
280 [00:30:26] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: I suspect the machine will support 64bit just fine. In this case just download the amd64 image. I would only worry about the cpu/memory if it was a very old machine.
281 [00:30:31] <dfgas> hello
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284 [00:30:57] <dfgas> server role = 'active directory domain controller' not compatible with running smbd standalone.
285 [00:31:01] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so replaced-url
286 [00:31:08] <dfgas> You should start 'samba' instead, and it will control starting smbd if required
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290 [00:31:18] <dfgas> i am loading the service using service samba start and i get this
291 [00:31:29] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: that will work. Or you can use the unoffical firmware installer. Though if not using wifi it most likely won't matter (very few wired cards require firmware)
292 [00:31:29] <dfgas> this is on debian
293 [00:31:33] <dfgas> any idea?
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297 [00:32:04] <somiaj> dfgas: I would use systemctl over service since jessie will be using systemd by default.
298 [00:32:12] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, Okay... so this will do? replaced-url
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301 [00:33:10] <somiaj> dfgas: and the unit names are nmbd and smbd. so systemctl start nmbd
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303 [00:33:42] <TunaLobster> So I am setting up openvpn to use with deluge. Whenever I get the tun0 working I am no longer able to connect to trackers.
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305 [00:33:48] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: Correct. it is highly unlikely your machine doesn't support 64 bit unless it is fairly old. If you are worried there is also replaced-url
306 [00:33:52] <Lady_Aleena> AcK! Looking at the complete install, I would get lost.
307 [00:34:21] <somiaj> TunaLobster: did you restart deluge after getting the tunel up.
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309 [00:34:34] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so the second will work whereever? Decisions decisions.
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312 [00:35:01] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: yes, though I'm unsure if it tries to detect what you are runnign or just ask you which to use at boot. My guess it will ask you which one to use.
313 [00:35:05] <debkad> yes the last is for bath
314 [00:35:12] <TunaLobster> somiaj: Yes. I've done a few reboots. Should I double check that deluge is starting after the vpn is up?
315 [00:35:14] <debkad> both*
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317 [00:35:23] <BinBasher> when there's a {u} next to a package when using aptitude, for example when a package gets recommended to be deleted, does it mean it's uninstalled?
318 [00:35:32] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: the install does have lots of options to configure it, but for a basic install it isn't to difficult. Just follow it through and mostly take the defaults and answer the questions. If you have any questions you can ask here.
319 [00:35:42] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so it would be better for me to know ahead of time. I will do that soon.
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322 [00:36:04] <somiaj> TunaLobster: It is just a guess, if deluge goes up before the vpn tunell it might be trying to route the data incorrectly.
323 [00:36:27] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: You would figure it out very quickly if you chose 64bit and it didn't work.
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327 [00:37:05] <debkad> Lady_Aleena, i think you can know which cpu you have by digging into /proc/cpuinfo
328 [00:37:09] <Lady_Aleena> This mosquito bite is driving me crazy.
329 [00:37:34] <debkad> may be the correct grepping is: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
330 [00:37:35] <Lady_Aleena> debkad, the computer currently has Windows XP installed.
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333 [00:37:39] <debkad> ah
334 [00:37:47] <dfgas> somiaj, i did it that way too and i get the same error
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336 [00:38:07] <Lady_Aleena> The computer I am currently on is dying, so I am switching to a new-to-me one.
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341 [00:39:07] <Lady_Aleena> So would the CMOS tell me what I need to know or do I have to dig through Windows to find out?
342 [00:39:14] <debkad> you can download a small app ( exe ) for 64bit and see if supported
343 [00:39:31] <debkad> yes
344 [00:39:36] <debkad> in most case
345 [00:40:04] <Lady_Aleena> debkad, right now the newish computer isn't hooked up, since this computer is the only one with USB keyboard and mouse.
346 [00:40:08] <debkad> from bios generally you can see if the cpu is 32 or 64
347 [00:40:26] <somiaj> dfgas: unsre then. I haven't plaied with being a domain controler so unsure of what you issue could be.
348 [00:40:37] <debkad> or install something like cpuida or something like that
349 [00:41:17] <Lady_Aleena> The computer dance will be in a few minutes.
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351 [00:42:08] <dfgas> somiaj, any idea why a service would be masked and how i would unmask it?
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353 [00:42:53] <somiaj> dfgas: usually the user has to mask the service. But 'systemctl status service' is helpful, and if it is masked, 'systemctl unmask service'
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355 [00:43:14] <somiaj> dfgas: masking is different then enabling/disabling, as it prevents the service from being brought up on tiggers
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357 [00:43:22] <debkad> Lady_Aleena, replaced-url
358 [00:43:28] <_unreal_> oh boy an other 600 megs of updates doing the dist-upgrade
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361 [00:43:43] <somiaj> _unreal_: sounds like you are on testing/unstable.
362 [00:43:44] <_unreal_> yay then I can reboot and pray I didnt break anything
363 [00:43:46] <Lady_Aleena> debkad, I just shut down firefox.
364 [00:43:52] <debkad> ok
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367 [00:43:58] <_unreal_> somiaj, no, going from wheezy to jessie
368 [00:44:09] <somiaj> _unreal_: ahh. Yea that can be big too. (:
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371 [00:44:34] <_unreal_> upgrading a cubox with debian on it, currently headless till I figure out how to adjust the boot.scr to enable the video
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374 [00:45:19] <Lady_Aleena> debkad, I reopened it... 8)
375 [00:45:25] <debkad> cool
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380 [00:47:03] <Lady_Aleena> Okay the thought of everything I have to do for this switch is making me tired already. But I guess I should get to it.
381 [00:47:38] <Lady_Aleena> I will be back as soon as I know what I am installing to. Thanks for the help and chatting so far.
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383 [00:47:49] <debkad> ok :(
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390 [00:50:10] <tom99> does anybody know about quitter, the gnu open source platform to replace twitter?
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412 [00:54:59] <_unreal_> yay download finished now its starting to unpack files :S
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430 [01:03:54] <Capum321> jmcnaught: hello?
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433 [01:04:48] <debkad> hi?
434 [01:06:50] <Capum321> hello, is it possible to use systemd service directive such as User=$USER
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443 [01:09:15] <somiaj> Capum321: how do you want to use this?
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448 [01:11:45] <Capum321> wait, let me paste the whole content?
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452 [01:16:40] <awal1> Not debian specific but any clue, if possible, on how to make html5 video fit the maximized firefox window instead of having to use full screen ?
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455 [01:17:15] <Lady_Aleena> Well, here is what I got from the new computer's CMOS, though if I mistyped something, chalk it up to my bad handwriting. replaced-url
456 [01:17:42] <Capum321> somiaj replaced-url
457 [01:17:51] <Lady_Aleena> I already know I need to check the connectors to the drives since it wouldn't boot with the current drive in it. The computer couldn't even find the hard drive.
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463 [01:19:22] <Capum321> somiaj I am supposed to add a User directive to the service. I had added to the .timer. Should be to the .serivce instead?
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465 [01:19:54] <Lady_Aleena> Which should I burn a CD-R or DVD-R or does it not matter?
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468 [01:21:53] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: you could even use usb.
469 [01:22:07] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: and all that matters is the device has enough space.
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471 [01:22:20] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, how much do you think?
472 [01:22:47] <Lady_Aleena> Do you think 700 MB is enough?
473 [01:22:49] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: what image did you get? The netinstall is only 300megs or so and will fit on either a cd or a dvd
474 [01:22:56] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: the dvd image won't fit on a cd for isntance.
475 [01:22:58] <Capum321> somiaj, i was wrong, it's on service unit
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477 [01:23:58] <somiaj> Capum321: I don't know systemd well enough to see what is best. But the journal seems to tell me that your process is exiting with a non-zero error code. So why is your program exiting with the error code 217?
478 [01:24:24] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, so I think I will go with replaced-url
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482 [01:25:52] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: correct, it appears the Pentium D is 64bit. That installer will work and is only about 300megs big. So it will fit on a cd and not need a full dvd.
483 [01:25:56] <Lady_Aleena> And once I know that one will work, then the question is what do I have to do to burn this CD-Rom with the .iso file.
484 [01:26:17] <Capum321> somiaj: apparently the systemd service run as the same user who started X is must
485 [01:26:22] <Lady_Aleena> I've only done this once before.
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487 [01:26:41] <Lady_Aleena> And on Windows.
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489 [01:27:43] <Lady_Aleena> Do I use K3B?
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491 [01:28:46] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: I'm unsure what cd burining software windows has. Most should work just ensure that you burn it as an image (don't copy the file onto the cd)
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494 [01:28:57] <Lady_Aleena> Because I know I don't just copy the .iso over to the CD, other voodoo is needed.
495 [01:29:10] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, I'm back on my Debian machine.
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497 [01:29:36] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: do you have a usb drive you can use for this? One that you can erase the data on for the time being.
498 [01:29:44] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, no.
499 [01:29:54] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: k3b should work, just look for an option to 'burn image' and then it will ask for an image file and point it at the .iso
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507 [01:31:39] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, I'm not find a burn image option.
508 [01:31:45] <Lady_Aleena> s/find/finding/;
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511 [01:32:40] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: replaced-url
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513 [01:32:53] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: it also says it will be under 'tools' in the menu
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515 [01:33:35] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, sort of. Mine has fewer options.
516 [01:34:13] <somiaj> I don't actually use k3b so I'm unsure where to look. I would be surprised if it wasn't in some menu like say tools.
517 [01:35:08] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I think I have it going.
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519 [01:36:04] <Lady_Aleena> This may take a while.
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523 [01:37:20] <somiaj> yea depend on the speed you choose or was detected
524 [01:38:03] <Lady_Aleena> Maybe I should I chosen a speed instead of letting it detect.
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529 [01:40:27] <Lady_Aleena> It is done...now to start in on the hardware moving I guess.
530 [01:40:30] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: I wouldn't worry about it. (:
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532 [01:42:10] <Lady_Aleena> Oh and one final rsync before I shut this computer down for good. (To get all the updated logs from IRC.)
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537 [01:44:15] <Lady_Aleena> Wish me luck? 8)
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543 [01:48:18] <TunaLobster> somiaj: Ok. Got deluge to wait until the vpn tunnel is up. Still seems to have issues finding new peers.
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551 [01:49:49] <somiaj> TunaLobster: I don't know vpn's well enough to debug. But other process work just fine through the vpn tunnell? Can you connect to your machine through the tunnel (maybe deluge isn't getting its packets back)
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557 [01:53:15] <TunaLobster> somiaj: Hmmm... Odd. I just tried with a new torrent with way more seeders. Popped right up. There might be a few limitations on what peers I can connect to with a vpn running. I'm not sure how I would connect back with both on the same lan
558 [01:54:46] <jmcnaught> Capum321: hey. have you tried using the systemd per-user session? (systemctl --user) with the units in /etc/systemd/user ?
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565 [01:57:58] <Capum321> jmcnaught: you don't get tired of surprising me?
566 [01:58:38] <Capum321> I tried with user=$USER directive?
567 [01:58:48] <Capum321> in service unit
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569 [01:59:11] <Capum321> maybe try absolute username
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578 [02:03:16] <Capum321> whaatt? status=0/sucess?
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584 [02:04:36] <RAPTOR> Hi, someone online here?
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586 [02:04:51] <RAPTOR> I have a question.
587 [02:04:59] <Capum321> RAPTOR: the asked it
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589 [02:05:11] <RAPTOR> How can i install GCC my remote computer
590 [02:05:17] <RAPTOR> I am using now Putty.
591 [02:05:19] <RAPTOR> Whats command.
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595 [02:06:09] <RAPTOR> I want install ZNC, but my computer dont have GCC
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598 [02:07:04] <Capum321> what distro are you using on the remote?
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602 [02:07:39] <Capum321> sorry, i am on the debian channel
603 [02:08:25] <RAPTOR> Hey mate look, I have a remote computer and now i connected it with PuTTY
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605 [02:08:43] <RAPTOR> I want install ZNC but it says GCC not have.
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607 [02:08:47] <RAPTOR> install it.
608 [02:09:00] <RAPTOR> How can i install GCC to debian?
609 [02:09:09] <RAPTOR> Whats command in PuTTY
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611 [02:09:13] <RAPTOR> Now understand?
612 [02:09:26] <jmcnaught> Capum321: setting User=$USER in a system service unit doesn't make much sense. system units (in /{etc,lib}/systemd/system are run by root. But systemd also works as a service manager for users. Users can put units in $HOME/.local/share/systemd/user/ and control them with 'systemctl --user'. Look at "man systemd.unit" for where units can go
613 [02:09:37] <jmcnaught> ,i znc
614 [02:09:38] <judd> Package znc (net, optional) in jessie/amd64: advanced modular IRC bouncer. Version: 1.4-2; Size: 1350.8k; Installed: 5329k; Homepage: replaced-url
615 [02:09:53] <Capum321> RAPTOR install build-essential
616 [02:09:54] <jmcnaught> RAPTOR: on Debian you can simply "apt-get install znc"
617 [02:10:13] <RAPTOR> wait.
618 [02:10:13] <Capum321> or just follow what master jmcnaught has to say
619 [02:10:50] * jmcnaught is no master.
620 [02:10:51] <RAPTOR> oh god!
621 [02:11:02] <RAPTOR> jmcnaught: It was good. wait.
622 [02:11:54] <Capum321> wait.. znc is a irc bouncer, what it has to do with c compiler? jmcnaught not master anymore!
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624 [02:12:17] <ecom> Does pavucontrol use gtk2 or gtk3? What can I do if pavucontrol is not properly displaying the theme?
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629 [02:13:10] <jmcnaught> ,v znc
630 [02:13:11] <judd> Package: znc on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.206-2; jessie: 1.4-2; jessie-backports: 1.6.2-2~bpo8+1; sid: 1.6.3-2+b1; stretch: 1.6.3-2+b1
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632 [02:13:45] <jmcnaught> RAPTOR: you might want to use the version in jessie-backports if you were planning to compile to get a newer version
633 [02:13:50] <XINIS> replaced-url
634 [02:13:55] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell RAPTOR about jessie-backports
635 [02:14:10] <XINIS> Be sure to pair that with this: "Questioning The Holocaust - Why We Believed (Part 1 of 2)"
636 [02:14:14] <jmcnaught> !ops XINIS
637 [02:14:14] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: XINIS
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639 [02:14:47] <RAPTOR> jmcnaught: Installed, but where is znc now?
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641 [02:14:59] <Capum321> reason: xenophobia ?
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647 [02:15:38] <jmcnaught> Capum321: never mind the trolls please :)
648 [02:15:39] <Capum321> duh!
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650 [02:16:24] <jmcnaught> RAPTOR: "dpkg -L znc" to see list of files from package. Also with packages it's good to check /usr/share/doc/znc for README files
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652 [02:17:28] <Capum321> why telling him to check znc?
653 [02:17:30] <aruna> hi anyone write a irc bot ? Need help. Mine connects fine to the #channel but I simply cannot figure out how to get the messages to a log file ? Yes I know it's off-topic but thought someone here may have done this before so decided to ask :-)
654 [02:17:31] <jmcnaught> ecom: running pavucontrol from a terminal emulator might show you some errors you can research
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656 [02:18:02] <jmcnaught> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~20:08 < RAPTOR> I want install ZNC but it says GCC not have.
657 [02:18:38] <Capum321> so why you didn't tell him to install build-essential first?
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659 [02:18:57] <jmcnaught> heh... sorry :)
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662 [02:19:09] <Capum321> you maniac!
663 [02:19:12] <jmcnaught> Capum321: why compile something from source when a package is available?
664 [02:19:31] <Capum321> thats a good counter point
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666 [02:20:09] <Capum321> which i got myself trapped in the same routine
667 [02:20:11] <jmcnaught> aruna: you could try asking in the channel for the language or library you are using. Or take a look at some of the extensible bots in Debian, supybot for example
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669 [02:21:17] <debkad> compiling is only when you need to
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671 [02:21:28] <JohnLarson> pretty sure it's the Holohoax that immunizes the jew to criticism about what he's done and is doing
672 [02:21:42] <debkad> o_o
673 [02:21:43] <Masca_> Hi all, I'm having a problem while trying to install linux-libc-dev:i386 on a amd64 system because linux-libc-dev:amd64 have a different version.
674 [02:22:06] <Masca_> The first have 4.7.4-2 and the amd64 have 4.7.2+b
675 [02:22:12] <Masca_> is this a bug on the packages?
676 [02:22:32] <Masca_> er 4.7.4-2+b1 that is the version.
677 [02:22:39] <Capum321> so znc has the gcc package?
678 [02:22:58] <JohnLarson> police raided this man's home just for posting this video "Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust"
679 [02:23:03] <somiaj> Masca_: look at apt-cache policy linux-libc-dev
680 [02:23:04] <debkad> Capum321, gcc is a compiler
681 [02:23:14] <JohnLarson> replaced-url
682 [02:23:17] <somiaj> Masca_: also are you running testing/unstable or stable?
683 [02:23:31] <debkad> what happen
684 [02:23:47] <JohnLarson> Thank you for this video you are a brave inspiration! I'm so glad the word is getting out at last I'm English and feel ashamed for what we did to the German people.
685 [02:23:49] <ecom> jmcnaught: I've done that, but the solutions on the first page of google don't work for me. I get "theme parsing errors" and "depreciated" errors.
686 [02:23:50] <Masca_> somiaj: installed 4.7.4-2+b1, candidate: the same.
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690 [02:24:25] <jmcnaught> ecom: which release of Debian?
691 [02:24:39] <somiaj> Masca_: I'm not finding the package linux-libc6-dev in debian.
692 [02:25:03] <jmcnaught> ,v linux-libc-dev
693 [02:25:05] <judd> Package: linux-libc-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2.78-1; wheezy-security: 3.2.81-2; jessie-updates: 3.16.7-ckt25-2; wheezy-backports: 3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16.36-1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 3.16.36-1+deb8u1; stretch: 4.6.4-1; jessie-backports: 4.7.2-1~bpo8+1; sid: 4.7.4-2; experimental: 4.8~rc5-1~exp1
694 [02:25:16] <ecom> jmcnaught: I'm on stretch
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696 [02:25:38] <somiaj> Masca_: nevermind. I wrote the libary down wrong.
697 [02:25:40] <ecom> jmcnaught: but the base install is Jessie, I tried the backports
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699 [02:26:06] <Masca_> somiaj: I'm using sid.
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701 [02:26:22] <aruna> jmcnaught: hey, thanks ! am using php trying to write a logger for #kernelnewbies loads of useful conversations float across there into oblivion and I want to keep a personal record.
702 [02:26:31] <somiaj> Masca_: You may just have to wait. Packages in sid are sometimes uninstallable and versions get out of sync.
703 [02:26:59] <jmcnaught> ecom: i would try as a new fresh user. there might be more insight available on the testing/unstable channel for this kind of problem
704 [02:27:06] <Masca_> i wonder why judd sayd sid is 4.7.4-2 and I see the 4.7.4-2+b1
705 [02:27:14] <somiaj> Masca_: this will usually correct itself after time
706 [02:27:38] <somiaj> Masca_: the new version must be recentally added. Usually amd64 is added first and then the autmatic system will build the package for the other arches.
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708 [02:27:44] <abrotman> Masca_: Judd might be a few hours out of date
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711 [02:28:26] <Masca_> somiaj: abrotman : great! thanks. I just wanted to confirm this was something messy with the package versions.
712 [02:28:36] <Masca_> I'm completely new to debian, so wasn't sure. =)
713 [02:28:46] <Capum321> in the end of the idle time, the bash will run a rtcwake command, which was triggered, now, with a working status service. Where do I see if the output of the command rtcwake, in case it doesn't make computer suspend?
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716 [02:29:46] <jmcnaught> Capum321: you could use systemd-cat or logger to output to logs/journal
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719 [02:30:20] <Capum321> how do i use them?
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721 [02:32:04] <Capum321> what are those, packages?
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724 [02:33:27] <jmcnaught> Capum321: systemd-cat is part of systemd. You can use it in scripts if output from your service unit is not already reaching the journal. It has a man page :)
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729 [02:35:24] <Capum321> nice
730 [02:35:25] <Capum321> and logger?
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735 [02:36:31] <tom99> the +b1 means beta version 1?
736 [02:37:27] <abrotman> no
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740 [02:38:17] <abrotman> replaced-url
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750 [02:42:54] <DishEater> what's the recommended repository available httpd webserver for lightweight script free sites?
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754 [02:45:24] <jmcnaught> DishEater: apache2 and nginx are the most popular
755 [02:45:48] <DishEater> no i mean lighter weight
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757 [02:46:28] <DishEater> something absolutely securish and featureless, perfect for a .onion .txt style blog or the like
758 [02:46:37] <DishEater> thttpd etc
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760 [02:46:58] <somiaj> nginx is supose to be light weight, there is also lighthttpd or somethign like that.
761 [02:47:15] <tom99> abrotman: I skimmed that page, didn't see any examples of package names ending in b1 or b2
762 [02:47:36] <somiaj> DishEater: the package name is lighttpd
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764 [02:48:03] <RAPTOR> I am installed ZNC. Everything is ok. but
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766 [02:48:04] <RAPTOR> [ .. ] Checking for list of available modules... [ >> ] ok [ ** ] You are running ZNC as root! Don't do that! There are not many valid [ ** ] reasons for this and it can, in theory, cause great damage!
767 [02:48:09] <RAPTOR> What's this?
768 [02:48:49] <somiaj> DishEater: though nginx seems to be quite popular from my limited view these days.
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774 [02:49:53] <DishEater> mmm.... i'm looking at mini-httpd
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777 [02:50:53] <random_numbers> How would I change the language for one user? Setting LANG and LANGUAGE in .profile doesn't seem to work.
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781 [02:52:14] <random_numbers> I'm using Debian Jessie 8.5
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783 [02:54:00] <RAPTOR> [ .. ] Checking for list of available modules... [ >> ] ok [ ** ] You are running ZNC as root! Don't do that! There are not many valid [ ** ] reasons for this and it can, in theory, cause great damage!
784 [02:54:03] <RAPTOR> What can i do?
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809 [02:57:44] <DishEater> i can't find the manual for mini-httpd.
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815 [02:58:01] <DishEater> oh wait found it
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832 [03:00:43] <cortexman> i am very confused - i tried to replace a file in /usr/bin with a script that calls it with an extra arg. now i am trying to dpkg -i install the original deb, and no matter what I do, dpkg somehow keeps restoring the script I wrote instead of installing the version from the package
833 [03:00:56] <cortexman> driving me insane
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843 [03:01:36] <DishEater> yeah i still can't find the syntax or man page for mini-httpd
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850 [03:02:29] <cortexman> where the heck is dpkg storing the script i wrote
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852 [03:02:42] <cortexman> and why is it installing THAT when i try to install the original deb.
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855 [03:03:16] <tom99> cortexman, I wish I knew the answer to your question. but sadly I do not
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859 [03:04:35] <abrotman> dpkg: dpkg-divert
860 [03:04:35] <dpkg> abrotman: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
861 [03:04:37] <abrotman> bah
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863 [03:04:51] <cortexman> you can see what's happening here: replaced-url
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865 [03:05:11] <abrotman> I think maybe a diversion
866 [03:05:15] <abrotman> dpkg: tell cortexman about divert
867 [03:05:22] <abrotman> read teh doc, see if that will help
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870 [03:06:57] <cortexman> /usr/bin/mono is supposed to be a symlink to /usr/bin/mono-sgen
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875 [03:08:29] <cortexman> even apt is replacing /usr/bin/mono with my script
876 [03:08:36] <cortexman> this is insane :(
877 [03:08:41] <debkad> :(
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879 [03:09:01] <abrotman> cortexman: yes, you ahve to tell the system you own it
880 [03:09:16] <cortexman> dpkg-divert --list doesn't list /usr/bin/mono
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882 [03:09:32] <abrotman> cortexman: so create it ?
883 [03:09:34] <uxfi> Ext4 sis the reccomend Filesystem for Linux right?
884 [03:09:45] <abrotman> generally, yes
885 [03:09:47] <uxfi> I just have a external HD that I want to use for my debian server
886 [03:09:49] <uxfi> ok thanks abracadaniel
887 [03:09:53] <uxfi> abrotman; *
888 [03:09:55] <uxfi> its on EXfat now
889 [03:10:00] <uxfi> ITs giving me a mountpoint error...
890 [03:10:17] <uxfi> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
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892 [03:10:28] <uxfi> abrotman; ? I guess reformat it to ext then?
893 [03:10:32] <debkad> uxfi, if for cross platform it could be exfat or ntfs
894 [03:10:36] <abrotman> one would think ..
895 [03:10:39] <abrotman> please not ntfs
896 [03:10:50] <debkad> if just for linux then ext4
897 [03:10:52] <uxfi> debkad; I have a samba server set up on it
898 [03:11:01] <uxfi> yeah its for Linux since the OS is linux
899 [03:11:09] <uxfi> but im goign to be storing soem disk images and moveis and songs on it
900 [03:11:20] <uxfi> I want to play the songs/movies streaming from it
901 [03:11:22] <cortexman> this is particularly bad because dpkg somehow picked up that /usr/bin/mono was calling /usr/bin/mono_actual, and it is using the same script as both, which has the behavior of calling itself infinitely which creates a fork bomb
902 [03:11:22] <debkad> abrotman, ntfs is good, why not?
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904 [03:11:34] <abrotman> because it's ntfs
905 [03:11:40] <debkad> o_o
906 [03:11:42] <uxfi> so
907 [03:11:44] <uxfi> no exfat?
908 [03:11:46] <uxfi> im cinforming
909 [03:11:50] <uxfi> confirming
910 [03:11:54] <abrotman> ext4
911 [03:11:56] <uxfi> ok
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913 [03:12:12] <abrotman> debkad: the underlying permissions don't really match up with Unix/Linux ideals .. but if it works for you, good
914 [03:12:15] <debkad> uxfi, samba is to use something from M$ side, so fat/extfat or ntfs
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916 [03:12:36] <uxfi> debkad; so if I reformat to Ext I cant use samba?
917 [03:12:46] <debkad> uxfi, i think yes
918 [03:12:50] <missmbob> of course you can. debkad isn't making sense
919 [03:12:56] <uxfi> heh
920 [03:12:57] <cortexman> I created the diversion: dpkg-divert --package mono-runtime --add --divert /usr/bin/mono /usr/bin/mono-sgen
921 [03:12:58] <debkad> heh
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923 [03:13:05] <abrotman> not samba .. wtf
924 [03:13:05] <cortexman> it's still replacing the file every time I run apt or dpkg
925 [03:13:15] <debkad> missmbob, for what purpose is using samba for?
926 [03:13:18] <uxfi> ok thanks
927 [03:13:22] <uxfi> I'll reformat this baby
928 [03:13:23] <uxfi> one more thing
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930 [03:13:44] <abrotman> cortexman: perhaps that's the wrong package?
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932 [03:13:57] <uxfi> How do I stream from my debian box? I dont want to use Plex or that junk but I want to say open a movie my Windows/etc computter or a playlsit of song s and lsiten to it via VLC
933 [03:14:09] <abrotman> stream ?
934 [03:14:13] <uxfi> yeah
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936 [03:14:27] <uxfi> like have the movie that I download or ripped file thats on the debian server play to my computer
937 [03:14:31] <abrotman> so you want a network drive? or you want a music/video service?
938 [03:14:37] <uxfi> a network drive
939 [03:14:45] <uxfi> thats what the external drive I have plgugged in is used for lol
940 [03:14:47] <abrotman> That is more like Samba
941 [03:14:49] <debkad> windows can't access ext*
942 [03:14:54] <abrotman> debkad: just stop
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944 [03:14:59] <debkad> if samba you need what i said
945 [03:15:06] <debkad> abrotman, why?
946 [03:15:08] <uxfi> er...
947 [03:15:13] <abrotman> Windows can access ext filesystems
948 [03:15:16] <uxfi> debkad; buddy you arent making sense
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951 [03:15:22] <debkad> hmm
952 [03:15:26] <cortexman> mono-runtime is definitely the package that installs /usr/bin/mono
953 [03:15:32] <uxfi> abrotman; yeah
954 [03:15:37] <tom99> oh i googled uxfi thinking it was some kind of file system.
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957 [03:15:46] <uxfi> tom99; which?
958 [03:15:47] <abrotman> a) via a netowrk share like Samba, b) there are drivers for Windows to access some versions of ext
959 [03:15:50] <cortexman> thing is, even if i just try to install ANY package that depends on mono, apt (presumably via dpkg) replaces the symlink to /usr/bin/mono-sgen with the script that I wrote to wrap mono
960 [03:16:03] <debkad> abrotman, i know that part
961 [03:16:06] <uxfi> abrotman; hm no say I want to play a list of mkv shows
962 [03:16:13] <uxfi> and want to stream it to my computer Windows/mac etc
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964 [03:16:20] <uxfi> I know VLC has a network option cant I use that?
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966 [03:16:26] <uxfi> a FTP option
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968 [03:16:48] <abrotman> uxfi: yeah, you can do a network share, or a service. If you want to "open a stream" in VLC, you probably need a service. .. if youwant a to "Open a file", that's a network drive
969 [03:16:55] <tom99> uxfi: you were talking about samba and i thought uxfi was a type of network file system
970 [03:16:56] <tom99> lol
971 [03:17:06] <uxfi> oh lol
972 [03:17:29] <uxfi> abrotman; yeah the network share is samba hmm so I guess I need to point VLC to the samba server and port and do it that way Im assuming ?
973 [03:17:43] <abrotman> That's one method, yes
974 [03:17:45] <cortexman> my system is hosed - if i try to remove mono, it runs post-remove scripts that try to call mono, which causes dpkg to reinstall my custom script which breaks the post-remove scripts
975 [03:18:26] <cortexman> unreal.
976 [03:18:32] <uxfi> abrotman; ok so what I'l ldo now is feformat to ext
977 [03:18:34] <uxfi> thanks!
978 [03:18:43] <uxfi> Its funny I've known about Linxu for so long and Im still a noob
979 [03:19:08] <uxfi> sorry if my typing is off today
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984 [03:20:22] <vyadhaka> samba used to run fine on wheezy but after upgrading to jessie, it's not working properly, looks like it's been upgraded to 4.2 and does not work anymore, are the config files same?
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986 [03:21:18] <abrotman> doubtful
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995 [03:23:39] <cortexman> i have a crazy idea for fixing my system: a loop that makes symlinks from /usr/bin/mono to /usr/bin/mono-sgen as fast as it can
996 [03:23:53] <cortexman> overriding any attempt by dpkg to reinstall my wrapper script
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998 [03:25:01] <MikeDebian> vyadhaka, I've just installed samba on a debian 8 last week and I used the webmin (with samba module) to configure it. it was straight forward that way.. worth a try
999 [03:25:09] <uxfi> hey MikeDebian
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1001 [03:25:19] <uxfi> I havent configured the webadmin way
1002 [03:25:24] <uxfi> smart idea I need to enable it
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1005 [03:26:22] <MikeDebian> yes, you should try it ;)
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1009 [03:27:58] <cortexman> while : ; do rm /usr/bin/mono && ln -s /usr/bin/mono-sgen /usr/bin/mono; done
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1011 [03:28:04] <cortexman> ^ doesn't work :(
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1013 [03:28:26] <vyadhaka> MikeDebian: editing smb.conf is straightforward but cannot figure out what changed, everything looks same as before, does 4.2 use the smb.conf file?
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1016 [03:29:12] <debkad> cortexman, why you want something like that?
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1018 [03:29:22] <cortexman> my system is broken, trying to fix it
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1020 [03:29:26] <cortexman> like, i can't install or remove packages
1021 [03:29:32] <debkad> oh
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1023 [03:29:37] <debkad> reinstall
1024 [03:29:42] <cortexman> right
1025 [03:30:01] <debkad> it will take few minutes compared to the workaround
1026 [03:30:07] <MikeDebian> yes, it uses /etc/samba/smb.conf
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1029 [03:31:01] <jmcnaught> cortexman: had you tried putting your script at /usr/local/bin/mono? It would be on the path before /usr/bin and not interfere with packaged files.
1030 [03:31:05] <somiaj> !samba jessie
1031 [03:31:14] <MikeDebian> vyadhaka, probably they have done some minor changes to the config file so maybe you'd like to take a look on a smb.conf configured with webmin
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1033 [03:31:22] <somiaj> !jessie samba
1034 [03:31:22] <dpkg> A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <replaced-url
1035 [03:31:25] <cortexman> (just to be clear, i don't want my custom script to run anymore and somehow it's being reinstantiated)
1036 [03:31:29] <cortexman> i'll try the PATH hack
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1040 [03:32:33] <jmcnaught> cortexman: does your diversion still exist? "dpkg-divert --list"
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1042 [03:32:48] <cortexman> i removed it. i think i might have figured out what's going on, kind of
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1045 [03:33:19] <cortexman> there is a file called /usr/share/cli-common/runtimes.d/mono, which is a perl script, that is doing things like inspecting the location of mono, and stuff i can't read (yet)
1046 [03:33:34] <cortexman> must be getting executed
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1048 [03:33:44] <cortexman> i could grep my filesystem for the script i wrote and find its cache, i suppose
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1054 [03:34:48] <jmcnaught> cortexman: it's not clear to me why reinstalling the package would put the custom/not-from-package copy of the file back in place
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1056 [03:35:25] <cortexman> i think it's because all of the packages i'm trying to deal with rely on this cli-common package, and it's got custom scripts associated with it that are being run
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1058 [03:36:14] <jmcnaught> cortexman: well on my jessie system, /usr/bin/mono is a symlink to /usr/bin/mono-sgen which belongs to the mono-runtime-sgen package
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1060 [03:36:39] <cortexman> i'd give you instructions for how to replicate this, but it'd break your system :)
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1062 [03:36:57] <cortexman> basically, replace /usr/bin/mono with a custom script, try to remove mono, and watch your system go up in a blaze
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1066 [03:38:10] <cortexman> if you look in /usr/share/cli-common/ - i suspect code therein is the problem
1067 [03:38:25] <vyadhaka1> MikeDebian: is webmin in the a PPA?
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1069 [03:38:43] <uxfi> hey
1070 [03:38:47] <cantoo> is the sun national security for the world ?
1071 [03:38:49] <uxfi> is EXT3 or $ better?
1072 [03:38:51] <uxfi> or does it not matter?
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1074 [03:39:15] <uxfi> abrotman;
1075 [03:39:25] <abrotman> ext4 is probably what you want
1076 [03:39:29] <grim4593> .
1077 [03:39:30] <uxfi> ok
1078 [03:39:31] <MikeDebian> vyadhaka1, nop. get it here replaced-url
1079 [03:39:42] <abrotman> Please don't use webmin
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1081 [03:39:52] <abrotman> i'ts an epic pile of shit
1082 [03:39:59] <MikeDebian> well, or maybe it is. I always installed it from the source
1083 [03:40:05] <abrotman> Also, learn how to do something properly
1084 [03:40:13] <cantoo> like heat at moonlight
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1088 [03:40:38] <abrotman> cantoo: This channel is for support, please go play elsewhere
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1093 [03:41:27] <uxfi> abrotman; if I have say a mac and I plug it in how will I recognize the drive hm
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1095 [03:41:46] <uxfi> The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer.
1096 [03:41:54] <debkad> :)
1097 [03:42:00] <uxfi> heh
1098 [03:42:09] <abrotman> uxfi: I have no idea what OSX supports these days .. As Apple is a huge supporter of a closed ecosystem, they probably don't support much
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1100 [03:43:19] <uxfi> abrotman; whats the next best thing to ext4?
1101 [03:43:28] <abrotman> ext3?
1102 [03:44:02] <uxfi> nvm
1103 [03:44:07] <uxfi> ill use this for now
1104 [03:44:16] <cortexman> jmcnaught: thanks -manually install mono-runtime-sgen and mono-runtime fixed it
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1114 [03:47:37] <uxfi> abrotman; completed 1.4T 83 Linux
1115 [03:47:38] <uxfi> :)
1116 [03:47:40] <cortexman> debkad, YOU reinstall your system :)
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1120 [03:48:14] <uxfi> im getting an error abrotman USE exfat 1.1.0
1121 [03:48:14] <uxfi> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
1122 [03:48:21] <uxfi> Fuse*
1123 [03:48:22] <uxfi> fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
1124 [03:48:25] <uxfi> uhh
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1126 [03:49:16] <uxfi> any ideas?
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1132 [03:50:33] <debkad> cortexman, hmm what's wrong with my system?
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1134 [03:51:04] <cortexman> who knows!
1135 [03:51:12] <uxfi> ah nevermind I made a new directory FUSE exfat 1.1.0
1136 [03:51:13] <debkad> <cortexman> my system is broken, trying to fix it
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1138 [03:51:19] <uxfi> Does it use exfat to mount ext?
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1199 [04:22:37] <random_numbers> Would using lzip be more efficient than using xz with par2 files?
1200 [04:22:58] <abrotman> uxfi: in here, not pm
1201 [04:23:06] <uxfi> ok sorry
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1203 [04:24:00] <uxfi> abrotman; question. ok so im godo to go with ext4 so thats nice and it seems to mount ok to the folder I made. Anwyays my question im asking is if I make a disk image of my OS (work/home) can I store it on the ext4 hd for later use if I tell the program to copy directly to the external hd?
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1208 [04:27:43] <abrotman> yes?
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1210 [04:28:00] <uxfi> abrotman; yes what?
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1213 [04:29:47] <abrotman> seems like a try it and see kind of thing
1214 [04:29:58] <uxfi> ah
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1218 [04:31:38] <CipherZero> there is no bootsect.mbr file?
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1221 [04:32:34] <CipherZero> dd if=/dev/sda of=bootsect.mbr count=1 bs=512
1222 [04:32:48] <debkad> that to store the boot
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1227 [04:33:26] <CipherZero> there is no bootsect.mbr file? debkad ?
1228 [04:34:00] <debkad> CipherZero, the command above will read from your hard drive and store it to that file
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1232 [04:34:39] <CipherZero> ok thanks debkad
1233 [04:34:48] <debkad> No problem
1234 [04:35:14] <debkad> CipherZero, the syntax is: dd if=source of=destination ...
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1283 [05:01:01] <slbtc> I need help I can't seem to get debian to work
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1285 [05:01:22] <slbtc> there's no boot option or anything no gui it just has windows 7 as an option.
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1289 [05:02:29] <CipherZero> dd if=input.txt of=/dev/sda <—— i can’t find input.txt in /dev/sda. what’s wrong?
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1292 [05:03:00] <debkad> oh
1293 [05:03:12] <debkad> CipherZero, doesn't sound good idea
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1295 [05:03:24] <CipherZero> what you mean? debkad ?
1296 [05:03:44] <debkad> CipherZero, is input.txt a boot ?
1297 [05:03:59] <CipherZero> never. just text file
1298 [05:04:24] <debkad> what inside /dev/sda?
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1300 [05:04:32] <CipherZero> it is a usb
1301 [05:04:45] <debkad> can you open your usb? :)
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1303 [05:04:57] <CipherZero> yes there is nothing.
1304 [05:05:13] <CipherZero> ls ——> nothing
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1306 [05:05:30] <debkad> never do that kind of thing
1307 [05:05:43] <CipherZero> what you mean?
1308 [05:06:21] <debkad> that mean copy input.txt to /dev/sda <== that will override everything inside sda and make it as input.txt
1309 [05:06:57] <CipherZero> yeah, but i can’t find any file.
1310 [05:06:59] <CipherZero> :(
1311 [05:07:04] <CipherZero> debkad:
1312 [05:07:28] <debkad> CipherZero, to copy only the file use cp or cat
1313 [05:07:38] <debkad> in the mounted device
1314 [05:07:45] <CipherZero> yeah.
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1316 [05:07:53] <CipherZero> i do it for studying.
1317 [05:08:03] <debkad> cp input.txt /path/to/your/monted/device
1318 [05:08:03] <CipherZero> why there is no input.txt on usb?
1319 [05:08:23] <debkad> because dd not work that way
1320 [05:08:30] <debkad> it work with block
1321 [05:08:36] <CipherZero> block?
1322 [05:08:43] <CipherZero> what you mean?
1323 [05:08:50] <debkad> as copying iso directly to usb
1324 [05:09:03] <CipherZero> oh
1325 [05:09:04] <debkad> the usb will be the same as the iso
1326 [05:09:24] <CipherZero> then my usb is txt file now?
1327 [05:09:29] <debkad> it is like when you take a picture, it look like you
1328 [05:09:32] <debkad> yes
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1330 [05:09:47] <CipherZero> then how can i do?
1331 [05:09:51] <CipherZero> formattin?
1332 [05:09:54] <CipherZero> g?
1333 [05:10:02] <debkad> CipherZero, if just for testing and learning try with iso
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1337 [05:10:15] <CipherZero> iso
1338 [05:10:16] <CipherZero> oh
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1340 [05:10:28] <debkad> dd if=your_iso of=/dev/sda
1341 [05:10:33] <slbtc> ok I have a new problem. I managed to get the debian installation to work but it says something about unable to copy the contents from the CD and it's a USB flashdrive
1342 [05:10:38] <debkad> if you sure your usb is sda
1343 [05:10:47] <CipherZero> sdc1
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1345 [05:10:56] <CipherZero> sdc2
1346 [05:10:58] <debkad> oh
1347 [05:11:15] <debkad> that mean you did something wrong with your sda
1348 [05:11:19] <debkad> wrong disk
1349 [05:11:38] <CipherZero> dd if=input.txt of=/dev/sda
1350 [05:11:49] <debkad> o_o
1351 [05:11:54] <CipherZero> dd if=input.txt of=/dev/sdc2
1352 [05:12:03] <debkad> don't do that
1353 [05:12:06] <CipherZero> ok
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1355 [05:12:12] <CipherZero> then how can i fix usb?
1356 [05:12:15] <slbtc> there's something wrong with my CD it says and it's not a CD it's a USB flashdrive
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1358 [05:13:24] <debkad> CipherZero, with fdisk / parted / gparted , i suggest gparted for you as it is a gui program and before that you must be sure to where you format or do things
1359 [05:13:27] <OS-14926> how can u make perl download this file to a specific location on the drive?
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1361 [05:14:06] <OS-14926> my $url = 'replaced-url
1362 [05:14:12] <OS-14926> my $file = 'file.py';
1363 [05:14:32] <debkad> OS-14926, you may ask in perl channel
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1365 [05:14:39] <OS-14926> but how do i tell what directly to download to
1366 [05:14:44] <OS-14926> thats a good idea. thanks
1367 [05:14:52] <CipherZero> fdisk
1368 [05:16:10] <debkad> CipherZero, fdisk -l will list all device you have
1369 [05:16:18] <debkad> or blkid
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1371 [05:17:09] <CipherZero> Device Start End Sectors Size Type
1372 [05:17:22] <CipherZero> /dev/sdc1 40 409639 409600 200M EFI System
1373 [05:17:30] <CipherZero> /dev/sdc2 411648 30461951 30050304 14.3G Microsoft basic data
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1375 [05:19:47] <debkad> they don't look as your usb
1376 [05:19:54] <slbtc> what a stupid design for a desktop there's no CD drive
1377 [05:20:03] <debkad> those are an efi boot and windows partition
1378 [05:20:27] <debkad> slbtc, what you did exactly
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1381 [05:21:14] <slbtc> debkad: I burned debian successfully on a USB flashdrive I tried to run the installation but it says it can't find the CD
1382 [05:21:30] <slbtc> so I'm stuck
1383 [05:21:39] <debkad> what tool you used to burn?
1384 [05:21:46] <slbtc> the terminal
1385 [05:21:50] <debkad> o_o
1386 [05:21:56] <debkad> how that
1387 [05:22:02] <debkad> dd cp cat ?
1388 [05:22:02] <slbtc> sudo cp ~/debian-8.6.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso /dev/sdc
1389 [05:22:13] <debkad> sound ok
1390 [05:22:40] <slbtc> and it says "Debian" when I insert it in my other linux distro
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1395 [05:22:49] <r0b> with the testing branch, whats the proper way to setup a wifi connection with wpa supplicant the manual way with interfaces? i can't seem to get my interface to connect even with the proper ssid and password within interfaces.
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1397 [05:23:40] <jmcnaught> r0b: you're doing it like replaced-url
1398 [05:23:43] <slbtc> it says there's a problem reading from CD
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1401 [05:24:01] <slbtc> never had this problem with that particular flashdrive
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1404 [05:24:18] <jmcnaught> slbtc: try a different USB drive? did you verify the image?
1405 [05:24:43] <Anselmo> don't cp an iso onto a usb . . .
1406 [05:24:47] <slbtc> jmcnaught: I'll try another flashdrive
1407 [05:24:51] <slbtc> ?
1408 [05:24:55] <r0b> jmcnaught: lemme check, i followed the debian wiki on getting the wifi interface up
1409 [05:24:55] <jmcnaught> Anselmo: why is that?
1410 [05:25:08] <Anselmo> well, its its an iso then cp does not work
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1412 [05:25:11] <debkad> slbtc, try with dd
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1415 [05:25:22] <Anselmo> you'll be stickong an iso file into a usb filesystem
1416 [05:25:24] <Anselmo> debkad: ^
1417 [05:25:37] <Anselmo> dd if=/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/sdd
1418 [05:25:39] <Anselmo> or whater
1419 [05:25:40] <Anselmo> ver
1420 [05:25:41] <slbtc> debkad: I'll try dd
1421 [05:25:43] <jmcnaught> Anselmo: Debian ISOs are hybrid images designed to be copied to USB.
1422 [05:25:53] <Anselmo> oh, hunh
1423 [05:25:59] <jmcnaught> also the install manual says to use cp, never mentions dd
1424 [05:26:06] <Anselmo> funny
1425 [05:26:07] <slbtc> ah
1426 [05:26:12] <jmcnaught> they both work the same, but cp is easier and faster
1427 [05:26:15] <Anselmo> well, dd should usually work
1428 [05:26:24] <Anselmo> I'll have to try that
1429 [05:26:52] <slbtc> well it seemed to of worked fine even when I instert it into a working distro it says Debian as the label of the flashdrive with all the stuff intact
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1431 [05:27:16] <Anselmo> hmm ok
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1433 [05:27:21] <slbtc> but for some reason the installation says it can't read the CD
1434 [05:27:23] <r0b> jmcnaught: ive done most of that, installed the broadcom firmware, loaded it with modprobe, setup my interfaces similarilly with dhcp or static (neither option works) and with the ssid and passkey. i haven't configured any wpa supplicant conf at all. is that necessary? im connecting with wpa2
1435 [05:27:24] <Anselmo> could you try booting it on another computer?
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1437 [05:27:53] <slbtc> well the desktop is an acer
1438 [05:27:55] <jmcnaught> r0b: do you still have firmware errors in dmesg output?
1439 [05:28:28] <slbtc> currently running on windows 7
1440 [05:28:37] <slbtc> but I want to replace 7 with debian
1441 [05:28:56] <r0b> once i ifup the interface and then try to ping google.com i get a resolv error but thats odd when my resolv.conf is pointing to the gateway, ive also tried to set the resolv to two working google dns servers and that doesnt change the result
1442 [05:29:12] <r0b> jmcnaught: havent checked that, how would i?
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1446 [05:29:23] <jmcnaught> r0b: "dmesg | grep -i firmware"
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1448 [05:30:16] <slbtc> I do have debian on a CD it's Debian 7 though
1449 [05:30:33] <slbtc> but I don't see any way of opening the CD drive on my acer desktop
1450 [05:30:53] <r0b> jmcnaught: my ifconfig doesnt give me a ip when set to dhcp the dhcp never gives an ip
1451 [05:31:06] <jmcnaught> r0b: i've used the method described at replaced-url
1452 [05:31:41] <jmcnaught> r0b: DHCP won't work until after your wifi adapter is associated with the access point (and has negotiated the WPA2)
1453 [05:31:59] <jmcnaught> and that can't happen until the firmware is loaded
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1458 [05:34:56] <r0b> jmcnaught: that makes sense. dmesg doesnt do anything just goes to another prompt. when i try to ifup wlp3s0 i get dhcpdiscover with roughly 6 tries before it gives up
1459 [05:36:35] <jmcnaught> r0b: can you show your /e/n/interfaces file (XXXX out the sensitive parts like SSID and password)
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1461 [05:38:39] <CipherZero> oh my god
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1463 [05:39:02] <CipherZero> computer can’t reconize usb debkad :(
1464 [05:39:21] <debkad> CipherZero, you did something wrong
1465 [05:39:38] <debkad> never do something when you are not sure about it
1466 [05:40:22] <CipherZero> fdisk /dev/sdc
1467 [05:40:42] <debkad> oh
1468 [05:40:48] <CipherZero> i want to die now
1469 [05:40:50] <CipherZero> :(
1470 [05:40:54] <debkad> CipherZero, man fdisk
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1472 [05:41:05] <Anselmo> can it read a different usb?
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1474 [05:41:20] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: if you have gnome installed you might find the Disks utility easier for now
1475 [05:41:26] <debkad> he override it with a txt file using dd i think
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1478 [05:42:00] <debkad> CipherZero, gparted is a thing for you
1479 [05:42:21] <r0b> jmcnaught: replaced-url
1480 [05:42:29] <steem> where is the ~/.ssh directory supposed to be
1481 [05:42:33] <steem> the root directory?
1482 [05:42:40] <steem> why is there a period before "ssh
1483 [05:42:44] <steem> "
1484 [05:43:16] <jmcnaught> steem: ~ means "my home directory, or /home/myusername". Files and directories that start with a period are hidden.
1485 [05:43:20] <CipherZero> debkad: thanks i will try it.
1486 [05:43:34] <CipherZero> 1 20.5kB 210MB 210MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot, esp
1487 [05:43:35] <CipherZero> 2 211MB 15.6GB 15.4GB Untitled msftdata
1488 [05:43:50] <CipherZero> parted /dev/sdd
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1490 [05:43:59] <CipherZero> no system
1491 [05:44:07] <steem> jmcnaught: what happens if you are root when you mkdir ~/.ssh
1492 [05:44:15] <jmcnaught> r0b: the wpa-psk on line 17, is that using a hash generated with "wpa_passphrase myssid my_very_secret_passphrase" ?
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1495 [05:44:40] <jmcnaught> steem: the root user's home directory is /root. so it would make a directory /root/.ssh
1496 [05:44:47] <r0b> jmcnaught: no but i have tried that according to the wiki, that wont allow a connection either
1497 [05:45:03] <jmcnaught> steem: why does your root user need a .ssh directory?
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1499 [05:45:43] <jmcnaught> r0b: not sure if systemd-networkd is enabled by default on stretch or not.. what does "systemctl status systemd-networkd" say?
1500 [05:46:11] <CipherZero> how can i merge /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdd2?
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1502 [05:46:33] <steem> jmcnaught: because im just following instructions for using github with a file key
1503 [05:46:35] <debkad> you don't have to
1504 [05:46:37] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: you can't really, except for deleting them both and making a new blank partition
1505 [05:46:59] <debkad> it seem he don't know what to do
1506 [05:47:01] <stephanie92> Hey guys, how do you feel about chkrootkit and rkhunter? Are either worth their weight? Or could they actually cause more harm than good? (perhaps a vulnerability in the application, for instance while fetching remote filed for new definitions?)
1507 [05:47:08] <CipherZero> how can i format? jmcnaught ?
1508 [05:47:08] <debkad> he can wipe everything
1509 [05:47:29] <jmcnaught> steem: you should do that as a regular user. the root account is only for system maintenance like installing/removing software, adding new users etc.
1510 [05:47:36] <debkad> CipherZero, use gparted, you can format, wipe, shrink, resize ... with it
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1512 [05:47:45] <r0b> jmcnaught: that results with loaded but under Active: inactive (dead)
1513 [05:47:58] <CipherZero> debkad: i want to use fdisk for studying.
1514 [05:47:58] <steem> jmcnaught: yeah thats what i read everywhere but sudo doesnt work for me
1515 [05:48:06] <steem> because im not on the sudoers list
1516 [05:48:09] <debkad> CipherZero, ok
1517 [05:48:13] <steem> and im so lazy to fix that
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1519 [05:48:27] <debkad> CipherZero, just be carefure on what device you try
1520 [05:48:37] <jmcnaught> steem: on Debian you just need to be in the sudo group. As root you can do "adduser myusername sudo", then log out, log back in, and you can sudo
1521 [05:48:55] <CipherZero> how can i format? debkad
1522 [05:48:56] <CipherZero> ?
1523 [05:49:11] <CipherZero> how can i format usb?
1524 [05:49:15] <jmcnaught> r0b: when you try to bring the interface up, do you get anything useful in the logs?
1525 [05:49:39] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: gparted and gnome disks utility are two GUI programs that can format USB sticks
1526 [05:50:06] <CipherZero> su: gparted: command not found
1527 [05:50:35] <debkad> CipherZero, i my self didn't use fdisk just to rebuild the partition table, i can't risk myself to do that
1528 [05:51:03] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: you could install it. Which desktop are you using?
1529 [05:51:14] <steem> jmcnaught: what is the most secure configuration for root? if you are running a system that you never want anyone to take control of can you delete root?
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1534 [05:52:01] <CipherZero> /dev/sdd2 411648 30461951 30050304 14.3G Microsoft basic data <— it means there is no file system?
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1538 [05:52:20] <CipherZero> jmcnaught: debian
1539 [05:52:46] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: i mean are you using GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Mate, Cinnamon?
1540 [05:52:55] <jmcnaught> not using a GUI at all?
1541 [05:53:04] <CipherZero> i don’t know how can i know it? jmcnaught
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1543 [05:53:45] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: does your screen have word "Activities" in the top left corner?
1544 [05:53:47] <r0b> jmcnaught: im not sure what you mean by logs, however it shows trying to connect with dhcpdiscover but eventually fails. no working leases in persistent database - sleeping replaced-url
1545 [05:54:22] <CipherZero> jmcnaught: Application Menu
1546 [05:54:23] <jmcnaught> r0b: logs as in /var/log/syslog, or looking at "journalctl --since -2min" right after a connection attempt
1547 [05:54:46] <jmcnaught> r0b: are other devices on the network able to get a lease?
1548 [05:55:04] <jmcnaught> CipherZero: is there a Disks utility somewhere in that application menu?
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1550 [05:55:34] <CipherZero> i installed it with ‘apt-get install gparted’
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1552 [05:55:50] <jmcnaught> steem: don't try to remove the root user. just don't use it all the time. only use it for system maintenance tasks.
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1554 [05:56:44] <r0b> jmcnaught: yes, including eth0 on the same machine
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1556 [05:57:50] <jmcnaught> r0b: what does "lspci -nnk | grep -A2 -i net" say?
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1558 [05:58:19] <OS-14926> what text editor do you guys who to work on your code?
1559 [05:58:31] <OS-14926> guys use to work on your code*
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1561 [05:58:57] <r0b> jmcnaught: here is journalctl after trying to bring up wlp3s0 replaced-url
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1563 [05:59:20] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell OS-14926 about popcon
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1565 [05:59:52] <CipherZero> how can i install File system? debkad ?
1566 [06:00:11] <xreal> Anyone into setting up servers with Apache+PHP+MySQL+Drupal+Varnish in Debian or Ubuntu? I'm looking for help for a non-commercial project (you'll get paid or the money will be donated of course). Please msg me ;)
1567 [06:00:29] <r0b> jmcnaught: output of lspci replaced-url
1568 [06:00:43] <Anselmo> CipherZero: usually something like
1569 [06:00:50] <Anselmo> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
1570 [06:01:03] <CipherZero> mkfs
1571 [06:01:34] <Anselmo> depending on what filesystem you want of course
1572 [06:01:42] <Anselmo> ext4 works fine usually
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1578 [06:03:46] <OS-14926> darn i need more reverts :(
1579 [06:04:10] <jmcnaught> r0b: okay, so you followed the instructions on replaced-url
1580 [06:04:23] <r0b> jmcnaught: yep
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1582 [06:04:57] <CipherZero> i did it with gparted thakns Anselmo and debkad and jmcnaught
1583 [06:05:06] <debkad> good
1584 [06:05:16] <CipherZero> thanks
1585 [06:05:34] <DarlMcBride> Hello, my name is Darl McBride and I am from SCO.
1586 [06:05:35] <Anselmo> ok
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1590 [06:06:09] <jmcnaught> r0b: i'm a little surprised it didn't need a firmware. anyways, are you using gnome? does wifi work if you comment out the lines in the interfaces file and use NetworkManager?
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1592 [06:07:06] <CipherZero> anyway why there is 1.00 Mib unallocated? debkad ?
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1594 [06:07:46] <r0b> jmcnaught: i actually had to blacklist the modules that it says to remove in the wiki as they kept loading on reboot and the modprobe wouldnt stick. im just using a window manager but i could try wicd
1595 [06:07:51] <debkad> CipherZero, that something from gparted, i don't remember exactly why, but it is good to not touch it
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1597 [06:08:10] <CipherZero> ok thanks
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1599 [06:08:31] <CipherZero> but ex4 format can’t be read from mac? debkad ?
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1605 [06:09:03] <debkad> CipherZero, i don't know, never used mac
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1608 [06:09:17] <CipherZero> ok thanks
1609 [06:09:18] <somiaj> you most likely need to install some additional software to use ext4 filesystems on osX
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1611 [06:09:26] <somiaj> but I'm sure software is out there.
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1614 [06:09:44] <DishEater> anyone ever used mini_httpd/mini-httpd? I need to modify /etc/mini-httpd.conf to disable directory listing
1615 [06:10:07] <jmcnaught> r0b: it's also possible that something is broken in stretch right now. you could try asking on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net where you'll find other stretch and unstable users
1616 [06:10:09] <r0b> jmcnaught: it does connect successfully via wicd but id rather bypass that
1617 [06:10:34] <jmcnaught> r0b: okay, so you know it's working, there's just a mistake somewhere in your config
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1619 [06:11:44] <r0b> jmcnaught: after some searching i see some links to creating a /etc/wpa**/wpa_supplicant.conf is that necessary to make this work, i dont have one of those yet
1620 [06:12:33] <jmcnaught> r0b: it's one way of configuring wpa_supplicant, but the way outlined at replaced-url
1621 [06:13:19] <tom99> does anybody know why I can't download this package from my wheezy repos?
1622 [06:13:21] <tom99> replaced-url
1623 [06:13:39] <tom99> E: Unable to locate package libgtkmathview-bin
1624 [06:13:43] <somiaj> I use wpa_supplicant and configure it from /etc/network/interfaces. There is a good guide on this in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant I belive
1625 [06:13:59] <r0b> i check that out
1626 [06:14:01] <somiaj> ,v libgtkmathview-bin
1627 [06:14:02] <judd> Package: libgtkmathview-bin on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.0-8; jessie: 0.8.0-10+nmu2; sid: 0.8.0-14; stretch: 0.8.0-14
1628 [06:14:02] <jmcnaught> r0b: yes, it's /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
1629 [06:15:04] <somiaj> tom99: replaced-url
1630 [06:15:14] <tom99> my apt has deb replaced-url
1631 [06:15:52] <tom99> my apt has deb replaced-url
1632 [06:15:55] <somiaj> tom99: that package is in wheezy, not wheezy-backports.
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1634 [06:16:03] <somiaj> tom99: and that is security. I still don't see a wheezy line
1635 [06:16:12] <tom99> main isn't the same as wheezy?
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1637 [06:16:53] <DishEater> window 2
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1640 [06:17:37] <somiaj> tom99: it isn't main. The two lines you posted one is for wheezy-backports, and one is for security updates.
1641 [06:17:41] <somiaj> !wheezy sources.list
1642 [06:17:41] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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1644 [06:18:48] <tom99> oh I see they are separate fields on the line
1645 [06:19:25] <tom99> one is the "distribution" and the other is a "component" consisting of main, contrib, or non-free
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1647 [06:19:41] <tom99> so wheezy is a different "distribution" than wheezy-backports or wheezy-updates or wheezy/updates?
1648 [06:20:49] <somiaj> tom99: wheezy is a release, and then each release is broken into three repos, main, contrib and non-free
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1650 [06:20:59] <CipherZero> i can use vm on debian?
1651 [06:21:17] <somiaj> tom99: this is all in debian policy and due to the DSFG. contrib contains stuff that depends on non-free stuff but is not non-free itself. and non-free has stuff that doens't comply with the DSF guidelines
1652 [06:21:27] <somiaj> CipherZero: yes, vm doesn't really care if the hardware is real or virtual.
1653 [06:21:45] <somiaj> CipherZero: I meant deibna dosen't
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1655 [06:22:10] <CipherZero> i can’t use vm on Debian? somiaj ?
1656 [06:22:12] <somiaj> tom99: any reason you are use wheezy (oldstable) and not jessie?
1657 [06:22:40] <somiaj> CipherZero: yes, you can run debian as a guest, or you can install various virutalizing software and use debian as a host
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1659 [06:23:23] <CipherZero> ok thanks somiaj
1660 [06:24:15] <CipherZero> apt-get search vmware ?
1661 [06:24:16] <tom99> somiaj: i'm aware of what main, contrib, and non-free are.
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1663 [06:24:31] <CipherZero> there is no search command on apt-get?
1664 [06:24:52] <somiaj> CipherZero: apt-cache search
1665 [06:24:58] <CipherZero> oh
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1667 [06:25:22] <tom99> somiaj: I didn't realize that "distribution" could include things like wheezy or wheezy-backports or wheezy/updates or whatever
1668 [06:26:00] <tom99> somiaj, I have some software that I configured for using on wheezy. plus I also have jessie if I need that
1669 [06:26:18] <Rusty1_> CipherZero: or apt search
1670 [06:26:26] <CipherZero> oh
1671 [06:26:34] <CipherZero> thanks Rusty1_ and somiaj
1672 [06:26:36] <CipherZero> ;)
1673 [06:27:55] <tom99> alright thanks, that solved the problem
1674 [06:28:03] <tom99> it's installing that libgtkmathview program now
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1677 [06:30:24] <In33dt0kn0w> how can I do the same job of this command using ifconfig ?
1678 [06:30:33] <In33dt0kn0w> ip addr flush wlan0
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1680 [06:31:00] <somiaj> In33dt0kn0w: why do you want to use ifconfig?
1681 [06:31:32] <In33dt0kn0w> in case if I don't have iproute2 pkg installed on.my system
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1684 [06:32:17] <somiaj> seems strange you don't have an important package installed. Anyreason y ou can't just install it? usually ifconfig is considered depriciated.
1685 [06:32:41] <somiaj> man ifconfig should tell you what options are avilable. I don't know off the top of my head how to do that with ifconfig
1686 [06:32:58] <In33dt0kn0w> am just learning, there is no acctual reason
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1690 [06:34:39] <debkad> Rusty1_, hi
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1694 [06:34:53] <somiaj> In33dt0kn0w: in the man page for ifconfig I see you can 'del' address, but only for ipv6
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1698 [06:35:58] <In33dt0kn0w> acctually when I used the del command, the inet6 was still there
1699 [06:36:12] <somiaj> did you tell it what address to delete
1700 [06:36:12] <In33dt0kn0w> he didn't delete it
1701 [06:36:21] <In33dt0kn0w> yes
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1704 [06:36:44] <In33dt0kn0w> I did this also
1705 [06:37:18] <In33dt0kn0w> ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0
1706 [06:37:38] <debkad> o_o
1707 [06:37:40] <In33dt0kn0w> the same thing is still happening
1708 [06:38:08] <somiaj> I don't know ip/ifconfig that well. I just let the scripts with the interfaces file handel it for me.
1709 [06:39:27] <jmcnaught> In33dt0kn0w: there are some ifconfig to ip cheatsheets around on the web, but honestly learning ip is more worthwhile than ifconfig
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1722 [06:51:51] <HANDED> Hellstorm - Exposing The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany (Full) replaced-url
1723 [06:52:19] <HANDED> "Germany's most unforgivable crime before the Second World War, was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world's trading system (ie: World-Bankers), and to create her own exchange mechanism (ie: "Honest", non-interest bearing money) which would deny "world finance" of its opportunity to profit".!!
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1730 [06:58:04] <simonlnu> hdumb ass...
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1733 [06:58:31] <simonlnu> s/h//
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1737 [06:59:17] <simonlnu> i'd !ops HANDED but whatever
1738 [06:59:29] <simonlnu> idiot is gone
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1751 [07:08:40] <debkad> o_o
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1754 [07:10:55] <vyadhaka1> after upgrading to debian jessie, cannot connect to samba shares? first to check from the same PC, I tried smbclient -L localhost got "protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE" any ideas?
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1761 [07:18:55] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka1: what's your 'hosts allow' line from smb.conf?
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1767 [07:24:51] <vyadhaka1> hosts allow = 192.168.3.
1768 [07:25:03] <vyadhaka1> thats the subnet all my PCs are on
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1771 [07:28:50] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka1: if localhost isn't allowed does samba add it implicitly? (i don't use samba)
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1775 [07:30:28] <jmcnaught> okay, smb.conf(5) says "127.0.0.1 will always be allowed access unless specifically denied by a hosts deny option."
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1779 [07:31:13] <jmcnaught> !jessie samba
1780 [07:31:13] <dpkg> A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <replaced-url
1781 [07:31:22] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka1: did you see this? ^
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1783 [07:32:36] <vyadhaka1> yes, but i had a deny host = all, then it blocks localhost all well so added localhost to allow hosts and now getting: session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
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1787 [07:34:43] <vyadhaka1> I am not runnign XP
1788 [07:34:56] <vyadhaka1> all my other PCs are win10
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1803 [07:53:51] <r0b> jmcnaught: so after fiddling with it some more it appears /etc/network/interfaces doesn't know how to handle special char in the password? am i missing something that you're aware of to make it work?
1804 [07:55:11] <vyadhaka1> i can connect to samba shares from the loopback interface but cannot from a different PC, any suggestions where the problem might be?
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1806 [07:57:43] <jmcnaught> r0b: wpa_passphrase returns special characters?
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1810 [07:59:24] <r0b> jmcnaught: not exactly i was able to connect to the network without a passphrase and a more simple password such as 12345, temporarily - but actually after a little more testing it could have been from having wicd-gtk stray config files around from before today as now it accepts any password
1811 [07:59:39] <r0b> ill try the pass phrase option now
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1816 [08:02:54] <simonlnu> could try single quoting the funky passphrase, too
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1818 [08:04:43] <simonlnu> if that doesn't work, maybe a backslash?
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1820 [08:05:09] <r0b> im going to try those next. i thought it was working but turns out otherwise
1821 [08:05:09] * simonlnu suspects that won't work, probably be included in the passphrase
1822 [08:05:39] <simonlnu> i'd rather use a funky passphrase too
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1826 [08:06:27] <simonlnu> my owncloud keeps whining
1827 [08:06:34] <surfist> vyadhaka1 check what interfaces samba is listening on... and have iptables do forwarding
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1831 [08:08:46] <vyadhaka1> surfist: ok, narrowd it down to hostname resolution, I can connect to the share from different PCs using IP address but not the hostname? it used to work previously though? any ideas?
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1834 [08:09:35] <surfist> vyadhaka1 edit /etc/hosts maybe
1835 [08:09:36] <surfist> on each pc
1836 [08:10:04] <vyadhaka1> looks like an issue with the openwrt router
1837 [08:10:22] <surfist> that's alien to me
1838 [08:10:39] <surfist> I have a gateway machine with a nameserver, and samba running on virtual interfaces
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1840 [08:11:10] <surfist> I guess adjust your firewall fun
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1845 [08:12:32] <surfist> you can try ping computername vs ping ipaddress
1846 [08:12:34] <surfist> see what happens
1847 [08:13:00] <surfist> then edit /etc/hosts
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1853 [08:16:47] <vyadhaka1> no it is only this one pc that is not resolving the hostname with IP address, although it has two interfaces? does it matter
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1855 [08:18:10] <surfist> vyadhaka1 not sure what interfaces samba is listening on... and if iptables is doing forwarding
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1862 [08:19:14] <surfist> I would inspect /etc/samba/smb.conf look at 'route' output look at iptables -L output
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1865 [08:19:50] <surfist> if it works via ipaddress is smells like name resolution
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1870 [08:24:31] <vyadhaka1> yep it is a name resolution issue, I think it is something to do with the way the router is handling the two interfaces (wifi and lan) on the PC
1871 [08:25:10] <Geom`> jessie has no netatalk?
1872 [08:25:19] <surfist> it's gonna pick an ip and give it to a hostname.. maybe not the ip ya want
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1875 [08:27:52] <dutchfish> Geom`, well, you could install it still replaced-url
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1877 [08:28:41] <dutchfish> Geom`, but the world now talks tcp/ip
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1879 [08:29:53] <Geom`> thanks. i wont if its not supported by default... gotcha! :)
1880 [08:30:06] <somiaj> Geom`: replaced-url
1881 [08:30:07] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1884 [08:31:53] <dutchfish> Geom`, fyi, i still use it on some prehistoric computers, including IPX and token ring network
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1894 [08:43:20] <rexwan> replaced-url
1895 [08:43:43] <t4nk940> vb
1896 [08:44:00] <bazhang> rexwan, how is that a debian issue
1897 [08:44:29] <rexwan> bazhang, Just an advertisement in an intermission period.
1898 [08:44:54] <bbr0ther> :)
1899 [08:44:56] <bazhang> rexwan, theres an offtopic channel for debian
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1908 [08:49:08] <t4nk940> please i want your assistance How do I install the unetbootin in debian 8 ? I'm a new user
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1914 [08:51:11] <uniTosch> t4nk940: it has been removed from debian.
1915 [08:51:16] <uniTosch> #775689
1916 [08:51:17] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1917 [08:51:19] <N0Lif3> What's a Stretch repository? I tried googling it and can't get a definition on it
1918 [08:51:37] <N0Lif3> I know there are Stable, Unstable, but what is Stretch?
1919 [08:51:47] <uniTosch> N0Lif3: stretch is the next debian release. the current testing.
1920 [08:52:21] <N0Lif3> is there any way for me to get this package without adding stretch to my sources.list completely? replaced-url
1921 [08:52:22] <uniTosch> t4nk940: what are you trying to do? maybe we can advice a better tool.
1922 [08:52:41] <uniTosch> ,checkbackport tlp
1923 [08:52:42] <N0Lif3> apt-get install doesn't find tlp for me, as is
1924 [08:52:42] <judd> Backporting package tlp in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
1925 [08:52:57] <uniTosch> !tell N0Lif3 about ssb
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1927 [08:53:23] <uniTosch> N0Lif3: you can compile it on jessie from sid or stretch source. follow the instructions ^^
1928 [08:55:14] <N0Lif3> alright, it isn't on the backports website. will "deb-src line for sid" lead me into a mess where it's going to download a million new packages next time I apt-get update?
1929 [08:55:21] <N0Lif3> I just want this one thing
1930 [08:55:31] <t4nk940> which is the best τοολ ?
1931 [08:55:57] <t4nk940> which is the best tool?
1932 [08:55:58] <Anselmo> best at what?
1933 [08:56:40] <uniTosch> N0Lif3: it will download the source from that one package and install the built-deps from jessie. the idea is to not install a bunch of dependencies from different releases.
1934 [08:56:47] <somiaj> t4nk940: why do you want unetbootin? What .iso image do you have that you want to put on a usb device?
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1939 [08:59:41] <t4nk940> for experimentation linux distros
1940 [08:59:45] <rexwan> "When the world finds out the truth about the web of lies the jewish race has worked into our societies, all of humanity will unite to scrub them off of the face of the earth" - Ben Garrison
1941 [09:00:01] <simonlnu> !ops rexwan
1942 [09:00:01] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: simonlnu complains about: rexwan
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1947 [09:00:39] <Anselmo> like, to try out a bunc of different distros, t4nk940 ?
1948 [09:00:42] <simonlnu> thank you
1949 [09:00:49] <Ke> <3
1950 [09:01:24] <bazhang> t4nk940, just use grub to boot the iso from your hdd
1951 [09:01:37] <Anselmo> or use a vm
1952 [09:02:38] <bazhang> t4nk940, os grab a vbox and test it out there
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1954 [09:03:27] <N0Lif3> so adding "deb-src replaced-url
1955 [09:03:35] <N0Lif3> I really dont want to screw up my setup
1956 [09:04:19] <N0Lif3> tlp and its dependencies, I mean
1957 [09:04:20] <bazhang> N0Lif3, then why add a sid repo
1958 [09:04:34] <N0Lif3> bazhang: because I want this one package
1959 [09:04:40] <uniTosch> lines starting with deb-src can not be used for installing binary packages.
1960 [09:04:43] <N0Lif3> and theres no way around it
1961 [09:04:53] <bazhang> sure there is
1962 [09:04:55] <N0Lif3> well what do I do then?
1963 [09:05:10] <N0Lif3> replaced-url
1964 [09:05:13] <N0Lif3> thats what I want
1965 [09:05:15] <uniTosch> the bot sent you instructions on how to build it on jessie from sid sources.
1966 [09:05:20] <N0Lif3> I did
1967 [09:05:44] <N0Lif3> but apparently adding that to my sources.list is going to bloat me up with a million new things next time I apt-get update
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1969 [09:05:49] <N0Lif3> and I dont want to do that
1970 [09:06:05] <uniTosch> that's called backporting. you take a source package from a different release and build it against the libs of the release you are currently running.
1971 [09:06:15] <bazhang> did you even read the link
1972 [09:06:25] <bazhang> whyare you adding that repo then
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1974 [09:06:47] <N0Lif3> it was in the instructions
1975 [09:06:53] <uniTosch> N0Lif3: a deb-src line can have no effect when you update your system.
1976 [09:07:08] <bazhang> and here they are giving yuo the correct way to do it
1977 [09:07:09] <t4nk940> OK thanks
1978 [09:07:49] <t4nk940> alternative to skype?
1979 [09:08:06] <uniTosch> t4nk940: the only thing it does is allowing you to pull the source using apt-get source <pkg>
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1982 [09:09:38] <bazhang> does debian have 'line' in the repos
1983 [09:09:55] <t4nk940> try other problem I have something going on and do not enter
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1986 [09:12:28] <N0Lif3> ok, so adding backports replaced-url
1987 [09:12:44] <N0Lif3> I dont think I add jessie-backports if Im already on jessie
1988 [09:13:18] <uniTosch> the package you asked for is not in jessie-backports. you have to backport it yourself from stretch or sid
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1990 [09:13:39] <uniTosch> ,v tlp
1991 [09:13:40] <judd> Package: tlp on amd64 -- stretch: 0.8-1; sid: 0.9-1
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1996 [09:16:54] <uniTosch> N0Lif3: the instructions you linked are for installing packages that already have binary backports. you will have to build from source.
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2000 [09:18:44] <N0Lif3> these instructions have errors, so I'm not comfortable following it. It says to "install backports < see bdo> " so I put in bdo and it sends me to that page on how to install backports and it isn't what im supposed to do, so Im just stopping here.
2001 [09:18:59] <N0Lif3> it's not worth it
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2008 [09:21:43] <vyadha> ever since upgrading to Jessie, suspend and hibernation crash the system, there seems to be a lot of kernel bug reports relating to suspend and hibernation, anyone else having similar issues?
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2015 [09:24:06] <somiaj> vyadha: what is the output of uname -a
2016 [09:24:22] <somiaj> vyadha: the jessie kernel has worked just fine for me for suspend. I don't use hibernation.
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2019 [09:28:06] <tom99> lapto?
2020 [09:28:10] <tom99> *laptop vyadha?
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2051 [09:51:06] <dutchfish> vyadha, not crashes but freezing sometimes, please do a bug report if so
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2053 [09:51:38] <dutchfish> vyadha, (on suspend)
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2064 [10:02:50] <jim_carry> I have `%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL` and `%wheel ALL=(ALL) PASSWD: /usr/bin/passwd` now how to prevent editing of sudoers file via anyother editor?
2065 [10:03:44] <jim_carry> I want to prevent `sudo vim /etc/sudoers` or `sudo nano /etc/sudoers` or `sudo visudo` or anyother editor
2066 [10:04:17] <jim_carry> Whenever I want to edit sudoers file it should prompt for passwd
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2068 [10:04:27] <jim_carry> how to accomplish this
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2076 [10:07:44] <dutchfish> jim_carry, You might be going at this the wrong way. Instead of giving a user a 'restricted' bash shell, you should only give them access to the commands they would need to run as root.
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2079 [10:09:03] <dutchfish> jim_carry, that would exclude editing files in /etc
2080 [10:09:33] <CipherZero> what is Blocks? it is partitions?
2081 [10:10:47] <han-solo> the memory is divided into blocks
2082 [10:11:01] <han-solo> and they are further divided into sectors, iirc
2083 [10:11:10] <han-solo> msg dpkg !blocks
2084 [10:11:10] <jim_carry> dutchfish: I only want to restrict them for editing sudoers and using passwd
2085 [10:11:13] <CipherZero> block > sector >
2086 [10:11:15] <han-solo> er
2087 [10:11:49] <CipherZero> partition > block > sector? han-solo ?
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2091 [10:12:53] <dutchfish> jim_carry, that would not hel much, since a sudoer would likely could run there own bins as a sudoer and circumvent your restriction on a certain editor
2092 [10:12:58] <dutchfish> s/hel/help
2093 [10:13:12] <CipherZero> partition > block > sector? it is ok? han-solo ?
2094 [10:13:36] <han-solo> i believe so
2095 [10:13:52] <CipherZero> thanks han-solo
2096 [10:13:53] <CipherZero> ;)
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2098 [10:14:09] <dutchfish> jim_carry, a sudoer after all is root within the given restrictions, read the man pages
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2105 [10:17:23] <the1R> hi
2106 [10:17:40] <the1R> anyone?
2107 [10:17:44] <jim_carry> okay dutchfish thanx
2108 [10:17:52] <the1R> chicken penis?
2109 [10:17:53] <dutchfish> jim_carry, yw
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2112 [10:18:29] <jim_carry> man sudoers has very useful information
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2121 [10:23:45] <dutchfish> jim, yes, delve into the run_as spec, good luck
2122 [10:24:04] <dutchfish> oops, that was for jim_carry
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2130 [10:30:07] <the1R> hi
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2137 [10:34:56] <iamawesome> Hi all.
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2160 [10:45:12] <Lady_Aleena> Hello, this is my sources.list (replaced-url
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2168 [10:50:08] <uniTosch> Lady_Aleena: go to replaced-url
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2173 [10:50:50] <vyadha> somiaj: sorry was afk, uname -a > 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 (2016-09-03) i686 GNU/Linux i also tried ubuntu with kernel 4.7.4 still crashes when trying to resume from suspend
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2175 [10:51:08] <vyadha> tom99: yep it's a laptop,
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2178 [10:51:38] <hexnewbie> Lady_Aleena: Why don't you just install firefox-esr, though?
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2181 [10:52:12] <Lady_Aleena> uniTosch, now we need a keyring? How much more complicated did jessie's sources.list get?
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2183 [10:52:21] <Lady_Aleena> hexnewbie, because it is already out of date.
2184 [10:52:22] <hanshenrik> what is /usr/bin/gcc-nm-4.8
2185 [10:52:24] <hanshenrik> what's the nm ?
2186 [10:52:27] <hexnewbie> Lady_Aleena: Out of date?
2187 [10:52:30] <vyadha> dutchfish: I also noticed crashes on ubuntu with 4.7.4 kernel, leads me to believe that it is a kernel bug, I am waiting for 4.8 to test if it is fixed,
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2189 [10:52:54] <uniTosch> Lady_Aleena: debian packages have always been signed.
2190 [10:53:00] <Lady_Aleena> hexnewbie, firefox-esr was installed, but I would like to have the non-esr version.
2191 [10:53:14] <hanshenrik> nvm its some kind of program to view symbols from executables
2192 [10:53:16] <Lady_Aleena> uniTosch, I never had to worry about it before.
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2195 [10:54:10] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
2196 [10:54:14] <uniTosch> time to learn something, then.
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2198 [10:54:53] <uniTosch> Lady_Aleena: it did?
2199 [10:55:02] <hexnewbie> Lady_Aleena: Packages need to be signed to make sure you don't get malicious packages downloaded during MITM, and the Mozilla repo is separate from the Debian repo so it has its own keys (and I'd personally download the keyring over https just to be sure it's valid, or at least the fingerprint of the public key)
2200 [10:55:07] <Lady_Aleena> As far as I know it did.
2201 [10:55:15] <uniTosch> pretty sure it did not.
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2203 [10:55:43] <hexnewbie> Like, installing non-standard software *has* to be complicated. If it's not, I get worried
2204 [10:56:48] <Lady_Aleena> OKay, pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring installed.
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2206 [10:57:12] <Lady_Aleena> And sudo apt-get update ran fine this time.
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2210 [10:58:00] <Lady_Aleena> By the way, I am setting up a computer with a fresh install of Debian 8 on it. I am still limping around getting things set up.
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2218 [11:01:19] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, now for nvidia.
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2232 [11:10:58] <hanshenrik> netboot pxe version of the debian testing installer?
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2234 [11:11:45] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, hexchat is up and running, Firefox installed and synced, um OH! .bash_aliases! EEK! Can't live without my aliases!
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2241 [11:16:57] <hanshenrik> i found it ^^ ( replaced-url
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2258 [11:22:30] <brelod> Hey Guys! Im workin on an old laptop (1600Mh cpu, 512M ram), and try to install Huawei E3372 mobile net usb stick with no success. Earlier i tried (not the same stick) on an ubuntu and it was very easy to use but now couse of the old pc, i trying it on debian 8 with LXDE. Can anybody suggest something who has some experience with this stick?
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2266 [11:27:10] <jelly-home> brelod: no idea about that specific stick, but make sure usb-modeswitch is installed
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2290 [11:38:57] <brelod> jelly-home: thx - it has been already installed
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2295 [11:41:25] <Walakea_> is there an issue with netbeans not being in jessie repository?
2296 [11:42:00] <jelly-home> ,v netbeans
2297 [11:42:01] <judd> Package: netbeans on amd64 -- wheezy: 7.0.1+dfsg1-5; sid: 8.1+dfsg3-1; stretch: 8.1+dfsg3-1
2298 [11:42:38] <jelly-home> that usually means it had been too buggy at the time jessie was in freeze and released
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2300 [11:43:19] <Walakea_> they provide a .sh installer on their website but i would rather avoid it
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2302 [11:44:59] <hanshenrik> can i see what options my kernel was compiled with somewhere?
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2308 [11:53:00] <Divergenz> i installed vftpd and changed my port to 722. ftp client tells me "500 Illegal PORT command." i enabled 722 in firewall and added iptables with 722. Whats wrong, can someone help?
2309 [11:53:22] <SwedeMike> Divergenz: do you know how FTP works?
2310 [11:54:04] <SwedeMike> Divergenz: FTP uses a second TCP session for the actual data transfer.
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2325 [11:58:59] <Divergenz> SwedeMike: You mean that i should change: connect_from_port_721=YES ?
2326 [11:59:13] <Divergenz> so i have two ports?
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2339 [12:04:16] <SwedeMike> Divergenz: well, is 721 open in the firewall?
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2343 [12:04:40] <Divergenz> Yes.
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2345 [12:05:44] <SwedeMike> Divergenz: what does the port command look like? Is it the server or the client that complains about "500 Illegal PORT command"?
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2389 [12:26:14] <unborn> swaechter: try to open port higher then 1300
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2391 [12:26:59] <unborn> SwedeMike: or if you want to keep that your custom port, try to run program as root
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2410 [12:37:22] <vyadhaka> is there a way to see how much space each logical volume is taking up and how much free space is left - LVM related
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2412 [12:37:49] <alocer> vyadhaka: df ?
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2415 [12:38:15] <SwedeMike> vyadhaka: "lvscan" and "vgscan" doesn't give this enough?
2416 [12:38:37] <SwedeMike> vyadhaka: and "pvscan"
2417 [12:38:59] <han-solo> i think he/she wants df
2418 [12:39:01] <vyadhaka> *scan show the allocated but not used space
2419 [12:39:18] <han-solo> look what alocer said
2420 [12:39:33] <vyadhaka> yep, df is perfect thanks?
2421 [12:39:34] <SwedeMike> vyadhaka: then it has nothing to do with lvm. If you want to look inside the filesystem then you need to use the filesystem tools.
2422 [12:39:53] <vyadhaka> got it
2423 [12:40:32] <dutchfish> vyadha, this doesnt work always correctly, specially while querying thin mirrored volumes
2424 [12:40:58] <dutchfish> vyadha, use your fs tools
2425 [12:41:02] <nagetier> Hi, I'm following replaced-url
2426 [12:41:12] <nagetier> znc*
2427 [12:41:38] <vyadhaka> dutchfish: you mean df output is not reliable??
2428 [12:42:08] <dutchfish> vyadhaka, no, the oposit, lvm tools ar enot always on par on thin mirrored volumes
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2430 [12:42:26] <vyadhaka> ah ok!
2431 [12:42:27] <dutchfish> vyadhaka, only when mirror sync is complete
2432 [12:42:29] <Lady_Aleena> Why does Debian's VLC not have the preference under hotkeys to "Ignore keyboard volume buttons" checkbox, so I can uncheck it so my keyboard volume keys will work with it?
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2434 [12:42:41] <Lady_Aleena> It was working, now it isn't.
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2437 [12:43:23] <Lady_Aleena> Or, if I can't get the checkbox, is there a text config file somewhere I can edit for the same effect?
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2445 [12:51:19] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: what about using system volume and proper keybinds for such purposses?
2446 [12:51:52] <teraflops> just saying since it doesn't work for you the way you want
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2453 [12:53:43] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, what is your definition of system volume?
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2457 [12:54:10] <teraflops> pulseaudio
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2459 [12:56:05] <Lady_Aleena> By the way, my browser sound like from YouTube doesn't go to my sound system either, it just plays through the internal speaker.
2460 [12:56:09] <teraflops> the system's one. not application built in or whatever it is named
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2469 [12:59:17] <Lady_Aleena> How do I get to pulse other than alsamixer?
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2475 [13:01:00] <teraflops> alsamixer work with pulseaudio. so idk if you're using pulseaudio or just alsa
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2478 [13:01:24] <teraflops> pgrep pulseaudio might help
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2480 [13:01:40] <teraflops> works*
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2493 [13:04:29] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry teraflops. I pressed a few random keys, my desktop image changed, and my programs locked up, so I had to restart the computer.
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2495 [13:05:12] <Lady_Aleena> I couldn't get hexchat or VLC to come back up, firefox was gone, my terminal was gone, and all I could do was reboot.
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2497 [13:05:54] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know what I pressed because it was so quick and my keyboard was under the desk at the time.
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2502 [13:06:55] <teraflops> oh :/
2503 [13:07:05] <Lady_Aleena> And now firefox is acting weird.
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2505 [13:08:16] <Lady_Aleena> And my sound from Firefox is still going to the internal speaker instead of my sound system.
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2507 [13:09:11] <nagetier> Hi, I'm following replaced-url
2508 [13:09:27] <CipherZero> aptitude search foremost autopsy sleuthkit | tr -s ' ' <—— what it means?
2509 [13:09:56] <abrotman> CipherZero: there is a 'man tr'
2510 [13:10:05] <CipherZero> what is aptitude?
2511 [13:10:07] <CipherZero> abrotman:
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2513 [13:10:24] <han-solo> man aptitude
2514 [13:10:25] <abrotman> seriously?
2515 [13:10:37] <Lady_Aleena> And there is no set up for sound within Firefox and I don't see anywhere in my audio settings telling Firefox to send the audio to my sound system.
2516 [13:10:46] <CipherZero> aptitude - high-level interface to the package manager
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2518 [13:11:04] <han-solo> see, it works!
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2527 [13:13:01] <CipherZero> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb <— what happened?
2528 [13:13:22] <han-solo> again, man dd
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2531 [13:14:57] <CipherZero> can i excute this command? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
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2535 [13:15:42] <han-solo> i'm not sure, if *you* want to do that
2536 [13:16:13] <han-solo> don't play with commands before reading about it
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2538 [13:16:48] <aiRness> Hello. I'm having some issues with the testing dvd image, it keeps telling me that it cannot detect the hard disks, is there a case where debian cannot see the sata controllers?
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2542 [13:18:19] <teraflops> aiRness: who knows. you better use the official installer ones
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2544 [13:18:41] <Lady_Aleena> SOB! Still no sound from Firefox, and VLC still won't connect to my system volume control.
2545 [13:18:54] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: run pavucontrol
2546 [13:19:11] <teraflops> go to playback tab. select the output. profit
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2548 [13:19:20] <Lady_Aleena> Looks like I'll have to install it, hold on.
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2553 [13:20:41] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: I asked you before. do you use pulseaudio?
2554 [13:21:07] <abrotman> probably?
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2556 [13:21:19] <teraflops> I guess so but you know...
2557 [13:21:42] <woshty> what is the difference between python3.4 and python3.4m?
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2560 [13:22:44] <aiRness> teraflops: by "official" you mean the stable release?
2561 [13:22:45] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, I was using ALSA mixer
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2563 [13:23:13] <dutchfish> woshty, m has different flags d m u
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2566 [13:23:27] <dutchfish> woshty, see debian wiki
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2568 [13:23:34] <otyugh> hey
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2570 [13:24:02] <dutchfish> woshty, debug alloc unicode to write it in full
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2572 [13:24:41] <otyugh> I'm falling on a frankendebian, and I wonder how I could know what package is not at jessie normal version so I would know what happened ?
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2575 [13:25:35] <Lady_Aleena> Alsamixer said something about pulseaudio, so I guess I am.
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2577 [13:25:54] <woshty> dutchfish: thank you, I will take a look at the wiki .. having something printed with --version would be nice
2578 [13:26:09] <nagetier> 'apt-cache policy znc' shows replaced-url
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2581 [13:26:48] <stoned> otyugh: aptitude search "?narrow(?installed,?not(?archive(stable)))"
2582 [13:26:58] <stoned> use a pager if the list is too big.
2583 [13:27:13] <stoned> Good morning people of the debian
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2585 [13:28:07] <stoned> And try not to mix packages from here and there.
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2587 [13:30:10] <Lady_Aleena> So somewhere between my last install and this one, things got disconnected?
2588 [13:30:14] <stoned> otyugh: also 'man aptitude' and/or replaced-url
2589 [13:31:18] <stoned> otyugh: replaced-url
2590 [13:31:45] <Lady_Aleena> Firefox sounds go to the internal speaker, VLC won't respond to my keyboard volume controls, oh my...
2591 [13:33:28] <abrotman> be nice if the aptitude manual actually had the search reference
2592 [13:33:35] <stoned> Mhmm
2593 [13:33:39] <stoned> Mornin
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2595 [13:33:51] <stoned> aptitude is pretty awesome
2596 [13:34:22] <stoned> replaced-url
2597 [13:34:58] <stoned> Well, not specifically searthTermName but the entire chapter
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2599 [13:36:17] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: alsamixer works with pulseaudio too. as I said beforw
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2604 [13:36:44] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, I'm getting somewhere.
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2606 [13:36:51] <teraflops> aiRness: yes. then dist-upgrade to your liking
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2609 [13:37:16] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: I wish you get to the beach
2610 [13:37:46] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: pgrep pulseauduo
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2612 [13:37:54] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, okay, I've gotten farther.
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2616 [13:38:33] <teraflops> stoned: hi there ;)
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2618 [13:38:40] <stoned> o/
2619 [13:38:45] <vyadhaka> any one here did a clean install of windows 10 debian dual boot?
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2621 [13:39:10] <stoned> Here
2622 [13:39:13] <abrotman> vyadhaka: my laptop came with Win10, it's still on here, and I installed Debian
2623 [13:39:14] <stoned> Ask your question
2624 [13:39:22] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, thank you very very much for bearing with me.
2625 [13:39:29] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: np
2626 [13:39:33] <teraflops> yw
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2631 [13:39:59] <Lady_Aleena> I can now hear YouTube videos and my sound controls are working on VLC.
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2633 [13:40:14] <vyadhaka> abrotman: I am doing a clean install on a new disk, need to know if windows needs 2 partitions or just one
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2635 [13:40:26] <stoned> vyadhaka: 2
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2637 [13:41:27] <stoned> vyadhaka: windows will create a 100mb windows boot partition which is hidden, and then a main C: drive partition
2638 [13:41:45] <stoned> vyadhaka: if you have an mbr disk, it will occupy two partitions out of the 4 primaries
2639 [13:42:04] <teraflops> vyadhaka: let windows do its things. 2 partitions plus the uefi one iirc
2640 [13:42:36] <stoned> Here's what I do, let windows install to the entire disk, once done, use windows disk management tool to shrink the disk, then install debian.
2641 [13:42:59] <vyadhaka> stoned: I was able to skip the 2 partitions setup with windows 7 by partitioning it before hand and not letting windows installer partition. it installed everyting to just one partition, I thought 2 partitions are only needed if using encryption?
2642 [13:43:09] <teraflops> vyadhaka: just leave free space so the windows installer accommodate itself
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2644 [13:43:30] <stoned> You can do this too, that's fine if you know what you're doing.
2645 [13:43:53] <teraflops> vyadhaka: are you doing bios/mbr and run out of partitions? go use extended ones
2646 [13:44:20] <stoned> vyadhaka: either way, to install windows first, you must consult ##windows.
2647 [13:44:28] <vyadhaka> teraflops: it's MBR,, an old laptop, win10+LUKS(debian)
2648 [13:44:29] <stoned> vyadhaka: when you'r ready to install debian, come on back.
2649 [13:45:10] <stoned> vyadhaka: does it already have debian?
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2652 [13:45:17] <teraflops> or better plug a second disk on the dvd bay if you can
2653 [13:45:27] <teraflops> anyway I'm being offtipic
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2657 [13:45:40] <teraflops> offtopic
2658 [13:45:50] <stoned> If you already have debian on it, and you install/reinstall windows, you'll have to redo your grub installer again
2659 [13:45:52] <kennyngston> hey there
2660 [13:46:13] <stoned> Could be hassle on encrypted disk/luks/
2661 [13:46:17] <vyadhaka> yep it's got debian but Ineed win on it now, also I wanted to move from 32bit to 64 so decided to go with new install
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2663 [13:46:43] <stoned> oh, you're wiping debian? no more debian or will you dual boot debian again?
2664 [13:46:47] <Lady_Aleena> OKay, I have this line next to my user name in sudoers, however, I am still having to put in my password. "ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
2665 [13:47:06] <Lady_Aleena> What do I need to change to make it so I don't need my password anymore?
2666 [13:47:29] <stoned> you don't want that
2667 [13:47:32] <stoned> default timeout is 15 min
2668 [13:47:34] <stoned> iirc.
2669 [13:47:38] <stoned> leave it.
2670 [13:47:58] <stoned> sudo will remember your password for that long.
2671 [13:48:08] <vyadhaka> I just checked on my desktop, win10 is runnign just fine on one partition, I remember when I clean installed win7 on this desktop, I partioned prior to starting the windows install, i knew I wont be using bitlocker so did not see any reason to use separate boot partition
2672 [13:48:27] <stoned> vyadhaka: the first partition is tiny, 100or so mb, and is hidden/system.
2673 [13:48:38] <teraflops> vyadhaka: we don't support windows here.
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2675 [13:48:51] <kennyngston> i'm facing a strange issue with ip addr, it loses configuration after minutes of applying the config - anyone ever seen this issue?
2676 [13:48:54] <dayten> Lady_Aleena: did you try to relogin after suders changes ?
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2678 [13:49:04] <Lady_Aleena> dayten, I rebooted.
2679 [13:49:06] <vyadhaka> stoned: will be dual booting with debian, had many problems since upgrading to jessie, suspend crases the system
2680 [13:49:28] <vyadhaka> teraflops: I understand!
2681 [13:49:35] <stoned> Lady_Aleena: your sudoers line seems incomplete
2682 [13:49:35] <Lady_Aleena> I will give it another try to see if I misremembered using it before or after reboot.
2683 [13:49:45] <stoned> Lady_Aleena: for whom are you defining ALL= ?
2684 [13:49:50] <stoned> a user, a group? a binary?
2685 [13:49:56] <Lady_Aleena> me.
2686 [13:50:01] <stoned> so use your username.
2687 [13:50:06] <Lady_Aleena> stoned, I did.
2688 [13:50:09] <stoned> or create a sudo group and use %sudo
2689 [13:50:35] <stoned> Oh ok, I misread. Still waking up
2690 [13:50:39] <stoned> you said itwas next t your name.
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2692 [13:50:43] <stoned> ok
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2695 [13:51:29] <swulf--_> I have a bridged connection managed by NetworkManager connected to a wired interface (as described at replaced-url
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2697 [13:51:37] <hanshenrik> running pxe boot netinst of debian 9 installer alpha 7
2698 [13:51:38] <hanshenrik> replaced-url
2699 [13:51:47] <teraflops> kennyngston: are you sure you're not running two network manager thingies at the same time?
2700 [13:51:55] <Lady_Aleena> stoned, I could paste my whole sudoers file for you to look at.
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2702 [13:52:01] <stoned> hanshenrik: #debian-next on OFTC
2703 [13:52:07] <stoned> irc.debian.org
2704 [13:52:25] <kennyngston> teraflops: can be, fresh ubuntu install, but it is only doing it on this interface, not on any other interface - also im learning networking with linux so i may be missing something, how can i check?
2705 [13:52:44] <teraflops> kennyngston: oh. we don't support ubuntu here
2706 [13:52:47] <Lady_Aleena> stoned, here is the whole thing... replaced-url
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2708 [13:52:52] <kennyngston> whposie, allright :)
2709 [13:52:53] <teraflops> kennyngston: because legit reasons
2710 [13:52:58] <kennyngston> yea thats ok i understand
2711 [13:53:11] <teraflops> !notdebian
2712 [13:53:11] <dpkg> Debian is all about policy. Policy guides everything. Knoppix does not have Debian policy, ergo it is not Debian.
2713 [13:53:24] <teraflops> oh :S
2714 [13:53:28] <teraflops> there's one
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2716 [13:54:24] <teraflops> well not me at least
2717 [13:54:45] <kennyngston> ill have to rebuild my lab on debian..
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2720 [13:56:33] <teraflops> or ask in #ubuntu ...
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2723 [13:56:57] <abrotman> or ##linux
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2725 [13:57:01] <teraflops> yeah
2726 [13:57:16] <kennyngston> teraflops: i owe you a cookie anyway, pointed me to nmcli :) found it, thanks!
2727 [13:57:30] <teraflops> kennyngston: np
2728 [13:57:50] <teraflops> kennyngston: nmtui looks fine too
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2735 [14:00:10] <gchristensen> Hi, is there a web interface to view the patches applied to jasper? I'm looking at replaced-url
2736 [14:00:22] <Lady_Aleena> Well, I'm going to have to put a pin in this for now, since I am very tired and going rounds with this all night.
2737 [14:00:31] <Lady_Aleena> Need some sleep.
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2740 [14:01:01] <Lady_Aleena> Thank you again teraflops for bearing with me during the sound crisis. Have a nice day!
2741 [14:01:30] <teraflops> you too
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2752 [14:07:52] <swulf--_> I have a bridged connection managed by NetworkManager connected to a wired interface (as described at replaced-url
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2790 [14:26:35] <JustRamon> Having an urgent problem here: lvm2 got corrupted, I tried to reinstall/remove it, but it would also remove important packages. Then as a last resort I removed them from the dpkg status file. I still need lvm2, and I also can't install the deb manually, because it errors about lvm2
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2792 [14:26:50] <JustRamon> To be clear I do not use lvm2
2793 [14:27:01] <JustRamon> It's just a dependency of some software I use
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2795 [14:27:36] <jelly-home> JustRamon: so install the package again
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2798 [14:28:11] <jelly-home> you'll have to be more specific about the errors if you want better help
2799 [14:28:18] <jelly-home> !basic apt troubleshooting
2800 [14:28:18] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2801 [14:28:30] <JustRamon> Hmm.. my lang is set to dutch, so my errors are dutch aswell
2802 [14:28:37] <jelly-home> !localized errors
2803 [14:28:38] <dpkg> Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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2807 [14:29:45] <JustRamon> Errors for apt-get install lvm2: replaced-url
2808 [14:29:50] <JustRamon> This is wheezy by the way
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2810 [14:30:27] <JustRamon> apt-get -f install removes a hole bunch of important stuff
2811 [14:30:37] <JustRamon> it's "no longer needed"
2812 [14:30:45] <JustRamon> Yes I have a very broken system at the moment
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2817 [14:32:44] <alocer> JustRamon: you have lvm2 installed or not ?
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2819 [14:32:58] <babilen> /msg judd v lvm2
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2821 [14:33:21] <JustRamon> Well, it was installed, broken, I couldn't reinstall it, so I removed it from /var/lib/dpkg/status
2822 [14:33:39] <alocer> JustRamon: oh boy.
2823 [14:33:45] <JustRamon> Yeah, I know
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2825 [14:34:05] <alocer> JustRamon: libdevmapper brokes lvm2 .. how is that possible. let me see .
2826 [14:34:06] <abrotman> JustRamon: can you pastebin your sources.list ?
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2828 [14:34:11] <babilen> Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy lvm2 libdevmapper1.02.1" to replaced-url
2829 [14:34:12] <JustRamon> okay
2830 [14:34:17] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
2831 [14:34:17] <dpkg> Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
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2835 [14:35:08] <JustRamon> replaced-url
2836 [14:36:15] <JustRamon> babilen: replaced-url
2837 [14:36:24] <JustRamon> oh ofc
2838 [14:36:26] <JustRamon> It's dutch
2839 [14:36:30] <JustRamon> let me get a new one
2840 [14:36:41] <alocer> JustRamon: i say , well your system is broken . so take backup of files if you can and then force the installation of lvm2 . apt-get --force-yes
2841 [14:37:20] <abrotman> JustRamon: can you paste the sources at paste.debian.net .. apparently pastebin.com is falling apart
2842 [14:38:06] <JustRamon> abrotman: replaced-url
2843 [14:38:47] <JustRamon> You probably understand that I want to try everything before I do a reinstall
2844 [14:39:18] <JustRamon> Luckily I decided to do seperate home partition :P
2845 [14:39:26] <abrotman> JustRamon: apt-get update;apt-get --reinstall install lvm2 (pastebin the full command and output)
2846 [14:39:54] <JustRamon> heh, I keep ctrl+shift+c'ing in chrome
2847 [14:40:06] <jelly-home> JustRamon: you have a too-new libdevmapper1.02.1 in place, this prevents installation of lvm2
2848 [14:40:08] <babilen> JustRamon: That looks a bit fishy as you have a newer version of libdevmapper1.02.1 than the one in wheezy
2849 [14:40:19] <teraflops> lot of custom repos there^
2850 [14:40:22] <babilen> Did you ever have a different repository enabled on that box?
2851 [14:40:41] <jelly-home> JustRamon: you had other, newer repos enabled in sources.list before
2852 [14:40:46] <babilen> Ah, god .. who knows where packages came from
2853 [14:40:54] <teraflops> yeah
2854 [14:40:54] <alocer> lol
2855 [14:40:55] <JustRamon> Yes, the original error was that I tried to install a newer version of glibc
2856 [14:41:06] <jelly-home> JustRamon: where from?
2857 [14:41:14] <babilen> And whatfor?
2858 [14:41:40] <teraflops> at that point I'd consider running debian at all
2859 [14:41:52] <babilen> dpkg: not available
2860 [14:41:53] <dpkg> To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
2861 [14:42:01] <babilen> JustRamon: What does that ^^^ give you?
2862 [14:42:14] <JustRamon> Factorio (A game), which needed glibc 2.13>. I installed it from the development repo.
2863 [14:42:19] <jelly-home> in any case this particular issue could be worked around by "dpkg --purge libdevmapper1.02.1" and _then_ see what "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install" wants to do
2864 [14:42:24] <JustRamon> (It was a game-server)
2865 [14:42:30] <babilen> JustRamon: Don't mix releases
2866 [14:42:36] <teraflops> and reinstall all those packages again. the configs are still there unless you do --purge.
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2868 [14:42:43] <alocer> oh boy . a broken system is lot's of fun :)))))
2869 [14:42:56] <abrotman> and not in Debian?
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2873 [14:44:20] <JustRamon> babilen: Not available: replaced-url
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2875 [14:45:38] <JustRamon> ^ The reason this happened is because I was tired and didn't look at what it was doing. I should never do that again, lol.
2876 [14:45:42] <jelly-home> libssl1.0.2 on wheezy suggests you had stretch or sid enabled and installed stuff from there
2877 [14:45:42] <abrotman> JustRamon: do you have the optoin to upgrade to Jessie?
2878 [14:46:25] <JustRamon> abrotman: Not really. I am using openmediavault, which is still heavily depending on wheezy. The next version of it, made with jessie is still in development.
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2880 [14:46:59] <abrotman> Not like stretch will be out in a year or anything ..
2881 [14:47:24] <JustRamon> So... should I try "dpkg --purge libdevmapper1.02.1" and _then_ see what "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install"?
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2883 [14:47:32] <jelly-home> that's a start
2884 [14:48:02] <babilen> IMHO tricky to get back
2885 [14:48:18] <abrotman> JustRamon: are you still playing the game?
2886 [14:48:37] <JustRamon> factorio? yeah, but that's kinda offtopic, isn't it?
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2888 [14:48:57] <abrotman> well, no .. It eliminates a path
2889 [14:49:01] <JustRamon> jelly-home: Moar errors >.<: replaced-url
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2894 [14:49:29] <jelly-home> JustRamon: do you need docker?
2895 [14:49:43] <JustRamon> Yes.
2896 [14:49:44] <alocer> JustRamon: why not --force-yes ?
2897 [14:49:45] <acresearch> hello people, i am trying to install debian, but it is so complicated, IP address, several passwords and accounts, why?
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2899 [14:50:03] <jelly-home> alocer: PLEASE don't tell people to --force-yes
2900 [14:50:04] <teraflops> ಠ_à²
2901 [14:50:06] <abrotman> alocer: because it won't work
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2903 [14:50:14] <alocer> ok sry
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2907 [14:51:38] <JustRamon> I guess it's time to reinstall, >.<
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2909 [14:51:44] <JustRamon> All for that stupid little server software
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2919 [14:52:18] <abrotman> it doesn't ahve to be a reinstall, but something is going to have to give
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2921 [14:52:24] <jelly-home> acresearch: you only get asked for a static ip address when there's no dhcp server to get one automatically from; you also get asked for exactly TWO passwords and ONE account
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2933 [14:53:54] <JustRamon> There are 2 important things running on this machine: 1. My irc web client, 2. an owncloud installation (inside a docker container)
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2942 [14:54:22] <JustRamon> And I guess openmediavault is also important, it makes it easy to do stuff.
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2956 [14:56:17] <jelly-home> JustRamon: you could have a sane OS with docker, then run the wheezy+OMV in one container, owncloud in another
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2960 [14:56:56] <JustRamon> all inside a not-sane Os?
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2965 [14:57:38] <JustRamon> It's kinda like putting art in front of a hole in the wall, if you know what I mean
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2975 [14:59:45] <JustRamon> So, what is the best way to backup owncloud containers?
2976 [14:59:57] <JustRamon> hmm
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2978 [14:59:57] <JustRamon> wait
2979 [15:00:00] <JustRamon> I don't really need to
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2981 [15:00:32] <JustRamon> I guess I know what to do
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2986 [15:01:10] <JustRamon> Well guys, thanks a lot for helping me out. I understand that I completely broke my installation, and I will be going to do a reinstall of debian.
2987 [15:01:38] <babilen> +1
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3014 [15:21:06] <Capum321> replaced-url
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3068 [15:52:17] <CipherZero> dd if=/dev/sda of=test.disk bs=512 count=1 <— it copy MBR to test.disk?
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3071 [15:53:02] <han-solo> do you really want to?
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3075 [15:53:54] <CipherZero> yes han-solo ;)
3076 [15:54:06] <babilen> CipherZero: Yes
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3078 [15:54:19] <CipherZero> babilen: can you give me reason? why?
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3080 [15:54:57] <babilen> CipherZero: Reason whatfor?
3081 [15:55:14] <CipherZero> i want to understand theory. babilen
3082 [15:55:42] <CipherZero> dd if=/dev/sda of=test.disk bs=512 count=1 <— MBR is in first block of 512 bytes?
3083 [15:55:46] <babilen> MBR is 512 bytes, you copy that much data, done
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3085 [15:56:27] <babilen> replaced-url
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3088 [15:57:04] <CipherZero> MBR is 512 bytes. how can i know it of where it is among many block?
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3092 [15:58:23] <CipherZero> babilen: ?
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3094 [15:59:05] <babilen> CipherZero: It's always in the same place, you don't have to search for it
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3102 [16:00:06] <CipherZero> then dd copy partition from 0? babilen ?
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3105 [16:00:29] <abrotman> hhe
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3107 [16:01:07] <dvs> uh oh! blanket ban!
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3112 [16:01:59] <_unreal_> ?
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3114 [16:02:38] <_unreal_> got a beep I was like WAAAA???
3115 [16:03:48] <teraflops> well Sigyn like G-lines I fell bad for cyr
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3117 [16:03:54] <teraflops> feel*
3118 [16:04:03] <CipherZero> then dd copy partition from 0 address? babilen ?
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3123 [16:04:49] <captainfixerpc14> now
3124 [16:04:56] <teraflops> dd the partition, then dd the mbr
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3128 [16:05:46] <CipherZero> what you mean? teraflops ?
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3130 [16:06:22] <teraflops> what I said
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3133 [16:07:37] <teraflops> you dont need to calculate shit, if you want to restore a mbr from a dd backup do it before dding the partition
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3135 [16:08:14] <teraflops> it's always in the same place as babilen said
3136 [16:08:27] <teraflops> s/before/AFTER
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3138 [16:08:31] <teraflops> sorry
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3142 [16:09:14] <CipherZero> thanks teraflops
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3144 [16:09:30] <CipherZero> but i can’t understand it till 100% :(
3145 [16:09:56] <pelle> A Linux distribution or a BSD OS? Why?
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3149 [16:10:37] <babilen> pelle: Pick whatever suits your needs
3150 [16:10:50] <teraflops> CipherZero: replaced-url
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3152 [16:11:17] <babilen> CipherZero: The MBR is always in the same position and you copy it with the command you mentioned. Not sure what more you wann to know. You could read the article I linked earlier.
3153 [16:11:23] <CipherZero> teraflops: thanks i will read it.
3154 [16:11:45] <babilen> Please don't cross-post
3155 [16:12:09] <CipherZero> ok thanks babilen and teraflops
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3229 [16:41:34] <CipherZero> mke2fs /dev/sdb1 <— i want to make ext4 instead of ext2. then how can i do?
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3235 [16:42:49] <xand> CipherZero: use mkfs.ext4
3236 [16:42:50] <missmbob> CipherZero: use -t ext4 or mkfs.ext4 directly
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3239 [16:43:46] <CipherZero> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdab
3240 [16:43:47] <CipherZero> ok?
3241 [16:44:07] <xand> iff it's the right partition
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3244 [16:45:23] <CipherZero> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 xand
3245 [16:45:25] <CipherZero> ok?
3246 [16:45:48] <CipherZero> . In real life, you might want to use options like -m0 and -j.
3247 [16:45:58] <CipherZero> i must use -m0 or -j?
3248 [16:46:36] <missmbob> CipherZero: do you know what those do?
3249 [16:46:43] <CipherZero> i have no idea
3250 [16:46:44] <CipherZero> :(
3251 [16:46:51] <CipherZero> missmbob:
3252 [16:46:58] <missmbob> CipherZero: so man mkfs.ext4 and read what it says. it tells you what -m and -j are for
3253 [16:47:18] <CipherZero> ok
3254 [16:47:26] <CipherZero> but it is -m0 instead of m
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3256 [16:47:50] <missmbob> CipherZero: i know. i you see what m is you'll know what m0 does. anyway i wouldnt use either
3257 [16:48:01] <missmbob> if* you see
3258 [16:48:05] <xand> -m0 is the same as -m 0
3259 [16:48:24] <CipherZero> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 <——then i use it
3260 [16:48:27] <CipherZero> ok?
3261 [16:48:28] <missmbob> yes
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3263 [16:48:59] <CipherZero> thanks missmbob ;)
3264 [16:49:07] <CipherZero> i never use GUI
3265 [16:49:11] <CipherZero> i use only CUI
3266 [16:49:19] <CipherZero> for hacker
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3268 [16:49:55] <teraflops> tui?
3269 [16:49:59] <teraflops> cli?
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3271 [16:50:29] <CipherZero> only terminal
3272 [16:50:34] <CipherZero> instead of GUI
3273 [16:50:35] <teraflops> hui (hacker UI)
3274 [16:50:40] <teraflops> ah
3275 [16:50:46] <CipherZero> i did it finally
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3277 [16:51:08] <CipherZero> dd —> fdisk —> mkfs.ext4
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3281 [16:52:30] <CipherZero> when i mount usb, why it’s name is lost+found?
3282 [16:52:46] <xand> it's not
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3284 [16:52:51] <xand> that is a directory inside there
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3286 [16:53:32] <CipherZero> thanks
3287 [16:53:46] <Akuli> is lost+found a thing that ext4 needs?
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3289 [16:54:11] <CipherZero> Akuli: i have no idea
3290 [16:54:15] <Andocromn> replaced-url
3291 [16:54:20] <abrotman> Akuli: yes, but is typically empty
3292 [16:54:24] <abrotman> or sohuld be
3293 [16:54:39] <Andocromn> it's for recovery
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3325 [17:07:46] <CipherZero> nodev sysfs <—— what is nodev?
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3331 [17:09:36] <missmbob> CipherZero: doesnt contain block devices. so a file is a file and not a device. anyway...you can easily google that
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3333 [17:10:19] <CipherZero> nodev —> no device?
3334 [17:10:22] <CipherZero> missmbob:
3335 [17:10:26] <missmbob> yes
3336 [17:10:34] <CipherZero> thanks missmbob :)
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3338 [17:10:56] <Twinkletoes> Does anyone here use 'Turnkey Samba Domain Controller'?
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3340 [17:11:05] <abrotman> Twinkletoes: they have their own support
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3342 [17:11:28] <Twinkletoes> abrotman: Ok - jus tno IRC support
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3347 [17:14:36] <abrotman> Twinkletoes: there's a small channel, probably not much going on there
3348 [17:14:58] <Twinkletoes> abrotman - Ok, couldn't find it - but thanks ;)
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3357 [17:16:34] <teraflops> Twinkletoes: how did you search for it?
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3359 [17:17:05] <Twinkletoes> teraflops: I asked my IRC client (Chatzilla) to search for channels with 'turnkey' in the name
3360 [17:17:11] <teraflops> /join #turnkey
3361 [17:17:33] <teraflops> also replaced-url
3362 [17:17:42] <Twinkletoes> teraflops: Ha - well... thank you!
3363 [17:17:55] <teraflops> Twinkletoes: to be honest it looks pretty dead
3364 [17:17:56] <CipherZero> oh my god
3365 [17:18:00] <CipherZero> usb is very hot
3366 [17:18:06] <CipherZero> :O
3367 [17:18:18] <jelly-home> teraflops: #turnkey is practically empty, looks abandoned
3368 [17:18:23] <teraflops> yeah
3369 [17:18:42] <CipherZero> Turkey people is strong for linux?
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3371 [17:19:08] <jelly-home> CipherZero: there's a n in the middle of that word
3372 [17:19:27] <CipherZero> jelly-home: what you mean?
3373 [17:19:34] <teraflops> CipherZero: idk what does strong stand for
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3375 [17:19:43] <jelly-home> CipherZero: Turnkey is not the same as Turkey
3376 [17:19:52] <CipherZero> lol
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3378 [17:19:53] <Twinkletoes> Ok, next question... what's the best/recommended/easiest method of getting Samba4 to work as an AD domain controller, in Linux? The raw packages from samba, I ran into problems, then the howto on ubuntu, I also ran into problems with, and the Turkey appliance doesn't work
3379 [17:19:57] <teraflops> not the country just a distro(?)
3380 [17:20:04] <teraflops> CipherZero: heh
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3382 [17:20:16] <CipherZero> :D
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3385 [17:21:14] <jelly-home> Twinkletoes: probably best to read the official documentation for Samba and understand how things work?
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3387 [17:21:37] <jelly-home> maybe _solve_ problems when they happen?
3388 [17:21:49] <Twinkletoes> jelly-home: Yup, done a lot of that - had some success, but not complete. If that's the "best" way, rather than reply primarily on an appliance - then I'll go back to it
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3394 [17:23:01] <jelly-home> best for what, tho? Least time spent? Most things learnt? Shiniest?
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3396 [17:23:09] <jelly-home> !best
3397 [17:23:09] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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3408 [17:26:39] <dioz> why does debian only take 2 x resolves from my dhcpd ?
3409 [17:26:46] <dioz> 2 x resolvers
3410 [17:26:49] <dioz> and only the ipv6 ones
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3416 [17:31:10] <Twinkletoes> jelly-home: best is a mix of "most stable" and "useable", not necessarily the easiest, but if it's too hard, it's not useable
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3529 [18:18:10] <_0xbadc0de> hello
3530 [18:18:35] <_0xbadc0de> I have a radeon GFX card
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3533 [18:19:07] <_0xbadc0de> should I follow "Instalation" from replaced-url
3534 [18:19:08] <_0xbadc0de> ?
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3537 [18:19:29] <_0xbadc0de> last time I tried to make this GFX card work I got issues
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3539 [18:19:32] <_0xbadc0de> can I get help?
3540 [18:19:52] <_0xbadc0de> is that how I am supposed to run it? cos I like gnome and I want to be able to use gnome
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3543 [18:20:06] <veek> anyone know how to config a mic
3544 [18:20:19] <veek> it used to work (internal laptop mic)
3545 [18:20:34] <Akuli> _0xbadc0de, maybe this helps? replaced-url
3546 [18:20:38] <veek> alsamixer has mostly everything max'd
3547 [18:21:04] <_0xbadc0de> Listen
3548 [18:21:06] <_0xbadc0de> I am just a user
3549 [18:21:09] <_0xbadc0de> what I want to know
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3552 [18:21:26] <_0xbadc0de> is what the FUCK I need to install In order to get the GFX card working properly
3553 [18:21:46] <_0xbadc0de> without having to read millions of documentation
3554 [18:21:54] <_0xbadc0de> would that be possible?
3555 [18:22:08] <Akuli> that's not really millions of documentation
3556 [18:22:12] <missmbob> we're not slaves. you were given the wiki. we expect you to read what we give you
3557 [18:22:34] <Akuli> _0xbadc0de, that's documentation, and you're supposed to scroll down until you find what you need
3558 [18:22:44] <Akuli> in this case, until it says "Debian 8 jessie"
3559 [18:22:57] <_0xbadc0de> how do I know If I need the catalyst driver or the open source ones?
3560 [18:23:04] <Akuli> "This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop, as it does not support the EGL interface. It is recommended to use the free radeon driver instead."
3561 [18:23:12] <Akuli> and then there's a link to the radeon driver
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3563 [18:23:30] <Akuli> and there's 3. Installation
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3565 [18:23:45] <_0xbadc0de> so thats where I was all over again
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3567 [18:24:02] <Akuli> so whats the problem you're having with it?
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3571 [18:24:28] <jelly-home> _0xbadc0de: first you try the default drivers (the free ones), if they don't work, then you investigate further
3572 [18:24:29] <_0xbadc0de> none
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3575 [18:24:43] <_0xbadc0de> I just wanted to know If I was doing it right
3576 [18:24:45] <jelly-home> if you don't have problems, don't touch anything
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3582 [18:26:08] <Akuli> _0xbadc0de, then you can ask if you're doing it right instead of "what the FUCK I need to install" :)
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3585 [18:26:45] <Akuli> by the way, why is the wiki still using apt-get? aptitude has been around a long time
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3594 [18:30:58] <_0xbadc0de> screen resolution is still very bad
3595 [18:31:03] <_0xbadc0de> but I guess I should reboot
3596 [18:31:18] <Akuli> maybe restarting x is enough
3597 [18:31:20] <Guest68395> What is the best browser on linux ?
3598 [18:31:29] <Akuli> _0xbadc0de, rebooting is probably easier though
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3601 [18:31:39] <Akuli> Guest68395, the one you like
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3603 [18:32:20] <Akuli> there's firefox/iceweasel, chromium, many others, use what you like the most
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3607 [18:33:57] <_0xbadc0de> resolution still looks like shit
3608 [18:34:01] <_0xbadc0de> so...now what?
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3610 [18:35:16] <Akuli> i have no idea
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3614 [18:35:32] <_0xbadc0de> fantastic
3615 [18:37:00] <_0xbadc0de> so apparently it is not using fw
3616 [18:37:11] <_0xbadc0de> I did the suggested dmesg cmd
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3618 [18:37:50] <new-nick2> hey there
3619 [18:38:08] <_0xbadc0de> so should I use the proprietary driver
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3621 [18:38:17] <_0xbadc0de> or no one has a clue?
3622 [18:38:28] <new-nick2> looking for help to remove manually installed packages, make install..
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3624 [18:39:25] <Akuli> new-nick2, there's no good way to remove them, i just end up carefully deleting their files from /usr/local
3625 [18:39:28] <new-nick2> Installed Python3.5 make install. It seems to be unstable. need to remove. Was told to remove manually.
3626 [18:39:36] <Akuli> unstable?
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3628 [18:39:48] <Akuli> you should have tested it before make install
3629 [18:39:49] <Akuli> ./python
3630 [18:39:53] <new-nick2> I am getting problem running Python 3.5
3631 [18:40:02] <_0xbadc0de> should I use the catalyst driver?
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3635 [18:40:19] <new-nick2> I learnt now to test.
3636 [18:40:41] <mtn> _0xbadc0de: why not try it and see? it is up to you, after all
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3638 [18:40:50] <saboru> _0xbadc0de: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
3639 [18:40:57] <_0xbadc0de> nope
3640 [18:41:00] <_0xbadc0de> should I?
3641 [18:41:09] <new-nick2> Just want to sure, are all manually installed packages are in usr/local directory?
3642 [18:41:15] <_0xbadc0de> also I could use replaced-url
3643 [18:41:19] <Akuli> new-nick2, usually
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3645 [18:41:22] <mtn> _0xbadc0de: as I said, it is up to you. it is your machine, not mine
3646 [18:41:36] <Akuli> new-nick2, like 99% of the time unless you did ./configure --prefix=whatever
3647 [18:41:47] <Guest68395> purge x server and reinstall xorg
3648 [18:41:54] <saboru> haven't read the pull discussion but if you just wanna change the resolution, that surely is a way to do it
3649 [18:42:15] <Guest68395> amd has a joke of opengl support
3650 [18:42:27] <_0xbadc0de> it says xserver-org is not installed and not available
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3653 [18:42:50] <Guest68395> You're going to need xorg for a working gui
3654 [18:42:59] <new-nick2> I was told to go though makeinstall file which I am no clue of going though. I got an idea, since make files are within build director(?) shall we take a list of make files and simply search though system files to delete. I
3655 [18:43:01] <_0xbadc0de> sudo apt-get xorg then?
3656 [18:43:19] <Guest68395> one second need to look up the command
3657 [18:43:21] <new-nick2> I didn't set any parameters.
3658 [18:43:23] <Akuli> new-nick2, unfortunately, most makefiles don't have an uninstall rule
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3660 [18:44:08] <_0xbadc0de> apt-get install xserver-org?
3661 [18:44:08] <new-nick2> Python 3.5 didnt comes with uninstall rule.
3662 [18:44:13] <_0xbadc0de> or just xorg?
3663 [18:44:19] <_0xbadc0de> or xserver AND org?
3664 [18:44:23] <Guest68395> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg
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3666 [18:44:39] <_0xbadc0de> but thats for removing
3667 [18:44:40] <_0xbadc0de> ...
3668 [18:44:49] <Guest68395> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
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3671 [18:45:44] <Akuli> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
3672 [18:45:45] <_0xbadc0de> ok
3673 [18:45:46] <saboru> like someone said earlier, take a look at replaced-url
3674 [18:45:48] <_0xbadc0de> its done
3675 [18:45:48] <Akuli> new-nick2, replaced-url
3676 [18:45:52] <_0xbadc0de> I am going to reboot
3677 [18:45:53] <Guest68395> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
3678 [18:45:54] <saboru> just purge the packages and reinstall ?
3679 [18:46:12] <new-nick2> Just one thing, am running Gnome shell which requires Python3. Will the system crash when manually delete Python3 files from usr/local or these current Python3 files are loaded to RAM?
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3681 [18:46:33] <Akuli> new-nick2, that's a different python
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3683 [18:46:44] <Elronnd> is there a way to make gnome-terminal not actually make a sound when it gets a BEL?
3684 [18:46:45] <_0xbadc0de> dbconf it was not possible to start frontend
3685 [18:46:48] <_0xbadc0de> Dialog
3686 [18:46:53] <Akuli> if gnome would use the python you installed (which wouldn't surprise me) your system would already have more or less crashed :)
3687 [18:46:55] <rypervenche> Where is the apt-pinning set for backports?
3688 [18:46:56] <Akuli> new-nick2
3689 [18:46:58] <_0xbadc0de> then eventually says xserver-org not isntalled
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3691 [18:47:11] <mtn> Elronnd: turn off sound effects in sound control
3692 [18:47:37] <awal1> Elronnd, run xset -b
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3694 [18:48:24] <_0xbadc0de> I can download the drivers from the AMD site as well
3695 [18:48:30] <new-nick2> Akuli, I read the dpaste. little explanation. Is it advice for future to follow to install
3696 [18:48:41] <_0xbadc0de> probably it will work better than this load of free shit
3697 [18:48:52] <Elronnd> awal1: didn't work
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3700 [18:49:05] <mtn> Elronnd: my way will work ;)
3701 [18:49:17] <Elronnd> mtn: where is "sound control"? gnome-settings?
3702 [18:49:25] <awal1> Elronnd, excuses, got confused. run xset b off
3703 [18:49:27] <awal1> :P
3704 [18:49:30] <mtn> Elronnd: sure. system settings--sound
3705 [18:49:55] <Elronnd> awal1: didn't work
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3708 [18:51:20] <Elronnd> org.gnome.desktop.sound->event-sounds?
3709 [18:51:30] <awal1> Elronnd, well, xset b off is the correct command for disable bell. no clue about gnome. check what mtn told you so
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3711 [18:51:50] <mtn> gnome has a nice gui to control such things ;)
3712 [18:52:04] <Elronnd> yes but I can't find it in said gui
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3715 [18:53:03] <mtn> Elronnd: uh, go to upper right corner, click, go to bottom left icon, click. find Sound
3716 [18:53:35] <mtn> Elronnd: sound effects is obvious in the app
3717 [18:53:50] <Elronnd> got it
3718 [18:53:51] <Elronnd> thanks mtn
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3720 [18:54:04] <mtn> Elronnd: :)
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3726 [18:56:50] <Akuli> new-nick2, that's how i would install python
3727 [18:56:58] <Akuli> it should be pretty straight-forward to follow
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3729 [18:57:34] <Akuli> you also want to do something like sudo apt-get build-dep python3-minimal
3730 [18:57:49] <awal1> Elronnd, long time I havent used gnome but if my memory is good under accessibility stuff you can make make gnome-shell, gnome-terminal ... blink the screen and terminal window instead of getting bell bips
3731 [18:57:52] <_0xbadc0de> should I have a /etc/x11/xorg.conf
3732 [18:57:53] <_0xbadc0de> ?
3733 [18:57:59] <new-nick2> so, first we make python and able to use without make install?
3734 [18:58:41] <awal1> if not in accessibility, it should be somewhere in sound settings
3735 [18:58:42] <new-nick2> only make install if we liked the version?
3736 [18:58:46] <Elronnd> what *is* gnome-shell anyway?
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3738 [18:59:09] <Elronnd> I mean iat's obviously not a shell, so what is it?
3739 [18:59:12] <Elronnd> *it's
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3741 [18:59:18] <Akuli> "graphical shell for the GNOME desktop"
3742 [18:59:27] <Akuli> aptitude show gnome-shell
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3745 [18:59:40] <babilen> dpkg: xorg.conf
3746 [18:59:40] <dpkg> From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken), by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg manual config>.
3747 [18:59:43] <babilen> dpkg: xorg.conf.d
3748 [18:59:43] <dpkg> xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf".
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3750 [18:59:46] <babilen> _0xbadc0de: ^
3751 [18:59:53] <babilen> dpkg: fglrx
3752 [18:59:53] <dpkg> fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see replaced-url
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3754 [19:00:05] <new-nick2> Gnome shell is graphical user interface with window manager, application launcher & etc. Gnome shell, Gnome core, Gnome desktop.
3755 [19:00:06] <babilen> dpkg: fglrx dkms
3756 [19:00:06] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` fglrx-driver && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf». Restart your system to enable the <radeon> blacklist.
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3758 [19:00:22] <awal1> gnome-shell is the gnome3 user interface, a replacment for the traditional gnome2 interface, Elronnd
3759 [19:00:26] <_0xbadc0de> fglrx is a abandoned project
3760 [19:00:34] <_0xbadc0de> and I cant even run gnome with it
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3764 [19:02:14] <awal1> _0xbadc0de, I just looked at that debian wiki entry and looks like all is easily and well explained
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3766 [19:02:34] <awal1> have you followed it correctly?
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3777 [19:04:04] <awal1> almost the jessie install section & the xor server configuration link
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3779 [19:04:18] <awal1> xorg server... ^
3780 [19:04:39] <awal1> oh, he left yet :P
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3786 [19:05:50] <saboru> yeah :)
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3799 [19:07:01] <saboru> i hope that solution works.
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3802 [19:07:49] <_0xbadc0de> !dpkg fglrx
3803 [19:07:50] <dpkg> fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see replaced-url
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3808 [19:08:21] <_0xbadc0de> fglrx dkms
3809 [19:08:26] <_0xbadc0de> !fglrx dkms
3810 [19:08:26] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` fglrx-driver && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf». Restart your system to enable the <radeon> blacklist.
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3817 [19:10:32] <iamawesome> WARNING: No server certificate verification method has been enabled. See replaced-url
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3819 [19:10:52] <iamawesome> Why do i get this error for openvpn vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovpn ?
3820 [19:11:02] <iamawesome> What should i do? Can anyone answer?
3821 [19:11:37] <th0r> iamawesome, openvpn is looking for a config file it cannot find
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3824 [19:12:05] <awal1> _0xbadc0de, dpkg factoid have a nice tutorial for you. it's a resume of the wiki entry
3825 [19:12:19] <awal1> if you follow it you may be done
3826 [19:13:16] <awal1> before executing those commands edit your sources.list and add contrib and non-free components
3827 [19:13:19] <iamawesome> th0r: Where is the config file?
3828 [19:13:47] <th0r> iamawesome, that is the question openvpn is asking you. I know where mine are....where did you put yours?
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3831 [19:15:10] <th0r> iamawesome, vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovpn (any .ovpn file) is the config file that tells openvpn how to connect to the service. You should have gotten one for the service you are using, or written it yourself
3832 [19:15:13] <iamawesome> th0r: I didn't do anything with openvpn after installing it.
3833 [19:16:15] <th0r> iamawesome, then it shouldn't have given you an error. It won't speak unless spoken to
3834 [19:16:36] <iamawesome> th0r: vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovpn is in ~/workspace
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3836 [19:16:57] <JustRamon> So I went and reinstalled my server today. I added repos for openmediavault, docker & wheezy-backports. Then I did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and it installed a hole bunch of new packages.
3837 [19:17:02] <JustRamon> *updated
3838 [19:17:11] <JustRamon> Now it's holding back updates
3839 [19:17:22] <JustRamon> I have no idea how they all appeared
3840 [19:17:46] <th0r> iamawesome, copy that file to /etc/openvpn
3841 [19:18:08] <th0r> iamawesome, that is where openvpn looks for the ovpn files
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3844 [19:19:22] <th0r> iamawesome, then you should be able to start the vpn with 'sudo openvpn vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovpn'
3845 [19:19:46] <th0r> iamawesome, you can also define the vpn in network manager if you are using it
3846 [19:21:33] <iamawesome> th0r: I think, this file can be put anywhere.
3847 [19:21:45] <iamawesome> ERROR: Linux route add command failed: external program exited with error status: 2
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3849 [19:21:55] <iamawesome> RTNETLINK answers: No such device
3850 [19:21:59] <th0r> iamawesome, yes, but then you need to include the path. Putting it in /etc/openvpn just simplifies things
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3853 [19:22:55] <babilen> dpkg: tell JustRamon -about bat
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3855 [19:23:39] <iamawesome> th0r: If i run this: openvpn vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn from other directory it gets: Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn
3856 [19:23:42] <iamawesome> Use --help for more information.
3857 [19:23:48] <iamawesome> th0r: It has to be in the current directory
3858 [19:23:51] <th0r> iamawesome, you need sudo to use openvpn
3859 [19:23:57] <iamawesome> I was root
3860 [19:24:27] <th0r> iamawesome, and do you get the same error if the file is in /etc/openvpn?
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3863 [19:26:31] <iamawesome> openvpn vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn
3864 [19:26:32] <iamawesome> Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn
3865 [19:26:34] <iamawesome> Use --help for more information.
3866 [19:26:45] <iamawesome> vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn is in /etc/openvpn/
3867 [19:27:01] <th0r> iamawesome, there is something wrong with the ovpn file. I had to edit the ones I got from my service as well...so not surprising
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3869 [19:27:31] <Epiceno> Hi there.
3870 [19:27:40] <th0r> iamawesome, why is the filename changing?
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3875 [19:29:41] <iamawesome> th0r: Which file?
3876 [19:29:55] <Epiceno> I can't get a user to log in via SSH with a key. Root can, though. I already checked ~/.ssh/authorized_keys permissions and ownership, to no avail. It keeps asking me for a password. I feel there's either something wrong with the public key file or in my sshd_config. Any clue?
3877 [19:30:22] <th0r> iamawesome, the ovpn file...you have given two diffeent file names. Are you trying to do something esoteric with openvpn or just open a vpn tunnel?
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3880 [19:31:07] <teraflops> Epiceno: are the permissions fine too?
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3883 [19:32:26] <Epiceno> It's -rw------- for authorized_keys and drwx------ for the .ssh folder
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3885 [19:32:32] <th0r> iamawesome, you have given two filenames with different ....what I think are tcp ports, both of which are usually reserved for http and https
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3889 [19:33:31] <Epiceno> teraflops: It's -rw------- for authorized_keys and drwx------ for the .ssh folder (sorry, forgot to mention you)
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3895 [19:35:01] <iamawesome> th0r: So did you get any clue?
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3897 [19:35:33] <teraflops> Epiceno: ok
3898 [19:35:35] <th0r> iamawesome, you didn't answer my question
3899 [19:35:52] <iamawesome> th0r: Which question?
3900 [19:36:03] <th0r> iamawesome, the ovpn file...you have given two diffeent file names. Are you trying to do something esoteric with openvpn or just open a vpn tunnel?
3901 [19:36:10] <th0r> iamawesome, you have given two filenames with different ....what I think are tcp ports, both of which are usually reserved for http and https
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3903 [19:36:46] <iamawesome> th0r: No, only one file: vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn
3904 [19:37:20] <th0r> iamawesome, did you get this file from your vpn service? If so, what service are you using?
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3907 [19:38:07] <iamawesome> th0r: I got those files from here: replaced-url
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3909 [19:38:18] <iamawesome> th0r: replaced-url
3910 [19:38:48] <th0r> iamawesome, I am reading that site now...give me a sec
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3914 [19:39:18] <BeautifulBash> Oh god help me.... GDM is being an ass
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3916 [19:39:42] <BeautifulBash> ive just installed the latest nvidia drivers and now GDM just says "Somethign has gone wrong.
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3922 [19:41:23] <th0r> iamawesome, I have downloaded that zip file and am comparing it to my ovpn files.....hang on
3923 [19:41:30] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: jessie?
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3929 [19:44:39] <th0r> iamawesome, I see no real issue with the ovpn file, but I am not an expert on them. Did you copy that file to /etc/openvpn and try running it from there?
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3944 [19:49:02] <iamawesome> th0r: It's same
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3946 [19:49:35] <th0r> iamawesome, I am going to try to run that file on my installation. It will probably drop me and I will ahve to log back to irc....so no panic if I disappear
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3952 [19:51:39] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, yeah
3953 [19:51:48] <BeautifulBash> its driving me absolutely crazy
3954 [19:51:51] <BeautifulBash> startx is working fine
3955 [19:51:51] <th0r> iamawesome, it worked from here. I had to give the full path 'sudo openvpn /etc/openvpn/vpnbook-euro1-tcp443.ovpn' but it ran ok and I got a prompt for th eusername
3956 [19:52:11] <BeautifulBash> ive also tried kdm which works until I login, then I get th esame error
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3958 [19:52:35] <BeautifulBash> oh awesome
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3960 [19:52:37] <BeautifulBash> how cool is that
3961 [19:52:41] <BeautifulBash> Gnome has started doing it now too
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3963 [19:53:50] <th0r> iamawesome, I am using the ovpn file straight out of the zip file I just downloaded from that service...no mods
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3968 [19:54:32] <nicole> what is the command to scan sata1 hard disks drives for smart health
3969 [19:55:19] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: try deleting all the shell extensions if any
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3971 [19:55:35] <BeautifulBash> nope none
3972 [19:55:37] <BeautifulBash> fresh install
3973 [19:55:39] <teraflops> aww
3974 [19:56:00] <BeautifulBash> yeah D: This is really annoying
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3977 [19:56:17] <nicole> hi friends any tool to scan my smart
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3981 [19:56:23] <abrotman> nicole: smartctl ?
3982 [19:56:27] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: hmm idk if gdm does wayland backend or not in jessie
3983 [19:56:51] <abrotman> that's not right
3984 [19:56:52] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, Checked for the setting and its not there so I gather not
3985 [19:56:53] <nicole> abrotman: maybe
3986 [19:57:00] <teraflops> ok
3987 [19:57:03] <abrotman> nicole: smartmontools
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3990 [19:57:29] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, It worked fined before I had to force stop an uninstall of nvidia drivers
3991 [19:57:39] <BeautifulBash> it just hanged at an are you sure prompt forever
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3993 [19:57:59] <BeautifulBash> so I stopped it autoremoved and dpkg-reconfigured everything and installed them manually and now Im here
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3997 [19:58:05] <BeautifulBash> Ugh, the regret.
3998 [19:58:11] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: when you do startx you get proper resolution and opengl?
3999 [19:59:23] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, I get full res yeah, but cant say about openm GL, I just get this error saying "something went wrong"
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4001 [19:59:24] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: mind pasting xorg.log from startx? and journalctl from when you do gdm?
4002 [19:59:38] <BeautifulBash> Absolutely! Hang on a sec, thanks teraflops
4003 [19:59:43] <jelly-home> abrotman: hdsentinel! :-)
4004 [19:59:59] <_0xbadc0de> replaced-url
4005 [19:59:59] <teraflops> replaced-url
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4015 [20:03:19] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, xorg logs arent in /var/log or ~/.local/share
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4017 [20:04:58] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: if you do startx there must be a log!
4018 [20:05:23] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, Ikr? This is so tedious I cant believe it
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4020 [20:05:31] <nicole> wow
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4022 [20:05:34] <teraflops> heh
4023 [20:05:52] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, wow wtf
4024 [20:05:55] <BeautifulBash> ok I dont even know
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4026 [20:06:01] <BeautifulBash> startx now starts gnome fine
4027 [20:06:16] <BeautifulBash> mind = blown
4028 [20:06:23] <teraflops> so no /var/log/Xorg.. o ~/.local/share/xorg/ ?
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4030 [20:07:10] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: well sounds ok, let's see journalctl for gdm
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4032 [20:07:45] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: you did install nvidia or you uninstalled it?
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4034 [20:08:00] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, and now it shows! replaced-url
4035 [20:08:05] <BeautifulBash> install
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4038 [20:08:26] <BeautifulBash> That was after I had to uninstall the ones I installed from the non free repo and install the one downloaded from the Nvidia website
4039 [20:08:36] <BeautifulBash> Il get journalctl right now
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4041 [20:09:01] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: you run the .run thingy from nvidia?
4042 [20:09:15] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, yeah thats the one
4043 [20:09:25] <BeautifulBash> it installed the 32 bit libraries perfectly that time and ran fine
4044 [20:09:34] <BeautifulBash> I rebooted, then I had that weird issue with GDM
4045 [20:09:43] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: oh boy
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4051 [20:10:40] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, haha yeah, it seems to be an issue Ivew only seen 3 other people talk about
4052 [20:10:44] <BeautifulBash> So alone ;-;
4053 [20:11:03] <teraflops> I'm so sorry I cannot help you with that
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4055 [20:11:37] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, No worries, thanks a lot for trying! Im a bit happier now im on the Gnome desktop.... Atleast I have that ;D
4056 [20:11:52] <Epiceno> teraflops: just found out my mistake. I pasted Putty's .pub contents whereas I should have copied and pasted OpenSSH's key from PuttyGen instead...
4057 [20:11:52] <teraflops> k then. np
4058 [20:12:17] <teraflops> Epiceno: glad you figured it out
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4060 [20:12:23] <Epiceno> Thanks :)
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4063 [20:13:03] <Epiceno> Bye bye
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4065 [20:13:09] <teraflops> aheh
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4150 [20:44:02] <_duke> hello
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4152 [20:44:38] <Anselmo> hullo
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4160 [20:46:56] <nomoroccans> can i apt-get install without having to confir withy/n?
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4166 [20:48:12] <missmbob> nomoroccans: -y (man apt-get)
4167 [20:48:31] <SuperTramp83> hillo
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4170 [20:49:07] <nomoroccans> missmbob thanks
4171 [20:49:53] <schuc> Q: Shouldn't ps -a show all running processes? I'm running from a jail and the top command is showing more running processes than ps -a. What would this be? Thanks
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4174 [20:50:32] <Elronnd> schuc: try ps aux
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4180 [20:51:59] <Elronnd> schuc: actually, just ps ax should be sufficient, but ps aux gives you some more info, should you need it
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4184 [20:53:44] <nya__> hi, what should i do if id'd like to report a bug but 'reportbug' segfaults?
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4188 [20:54:04] <schuc> Elronnd, thanks for your reply. Ok, I'll try that now
4189 [20:54:27] <abrotman> nya__: you can use any email client
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4194 [20:55:45] <schuc> Elronnd, yes, that was it. I'm used to using ps a... ps ax gave me what I needed. Thanks again!
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4274 [21:35:38] <reber> hi
4275 [21:36:22] <reber> is it possible to have the whole debian installer with all packages inside a 32GB pendrive and install all from it ? How plz ?
4276 [21:36:29] <reber> .join #debian-fr
4277 [21:36:38] <reber> sry
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4280 [21:38:04] <babilen> reber: *all* packages ?
4281 [21:38:28] <reber> welll all packages that are on dvd/cd babilen
4282 [21:38:55] <babilen> Yes, you can write the cd/dvd/bd images to usb
4283 [21:38:58] <babilen> dpkg: usb install
4284 [21:38:58] <dpkg> You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see replaced-url
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4286 [21:39:42] <teraflops> debian has 3 dvd images 4.4 GB max size you do the maths
4287 [21:39:47] <reber> babilen, the problem is dvd images and cd images are splitted into severai images
4288 [21:39:51] <reber> teraflops, that's it !
4289 [21:40:11] <reber> then it's not a solution, i'd like to have all dvd/cd into one image
4290 [21:40:13] <reber> is it possible ?
4291 [21:40:17] <reber> how ?
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4294 [21:40:36] <babilen> You don't need all of them for an installation
4295 [21:41:49] <teraflops> install from dvd one. cpu the iso files to the debian systemd. mount them there and use d
4296 [21:41:55] <teraflops> oops
4297 [21:42:04] <teraflops> apt cdrom
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4299 [21:43:01] <babilen> replaced-url
4300 [21:43:16] <babilen> reber: What are you trying to achieve?
4301 [21:43:17] <teraflops> sorry I'm on the phone and sometimes it's annoying
4302 [21:43:40] <babilen> Yeah, why do those pesky people call you?
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4304 [21:44:08] <reber> babilen, install all debian stretch (or jessie :/ ) from usb stick without network
4305 [21:44:24] <babilen> reber: "all" ?
4306 [21:44:38] <babilen> What kind of setup do you want to install?
4307 [21:44:39] <reber> *all* that are ON DVDs
4308 [21:44:40] <reber> ...
4309 [21:44:50] <reber> do you understand ?
4310 [21:45:01] <reber> all packages that are on the cds and/or dvd
4311 [21:45:09] <babilen> No, I know very few people who want to install *everything* (that is every single package in Debian)
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4313 [21:45:30] <babilen> Most users try to install a certain desktop environment, window manager and a few selected programs
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4315 [21:45:36] <reber> I need all packages that are on dvd / cd because i won't have a network connexion.
4316 [21:45:42] <reber> do you understand ?
4317 [21:45:50] <teraflops> install from dvd one and cp the isos 2 and 3 to the system. then use apt cdrom. doable with a single usb stick
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4320 [21:46:25] <reber> i want to avoid to have several dvd ( and have all on an usb stick) do you understand ?
4321 [21:46:37] <babilen> reber: Could you provide a few more details about your wishes? teraflops essentially suggested a suitable approach here if you really never have a working network connection
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4325 [21:47:03] <babilen> Yes, I do understand, but the image you are looking for does not exist
4326 [21:47:15] <babilen> Which is why I am trying to understand your *actual* needs
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4328 [21:48:14] <reber> babilen, ok ! that was the answer to my question my question, Other questions are useless
4329 [21:48:27] <reber> thanks
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4331 [21:48:49] <babilen> No, they are not. There are various approaches to solve your actual needs and the right course of action depends on your requirements
4332 [21:49:19] <babilen> There simply isn't a *readily available image* with all packages in the archive
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4334 [21:49:44] <reber> ok
4335 [21:50:16] <babilen> But if "No" is okay for you I will just shut up and focus on something else
4336 [21:50:26] <reber> then i'll do what i think first : copy the first dvd to the usb pendrive as packages are ordered by frequently used ones, it should do the job
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4338 [21:50:43] <babilen> I'd copy the BD, but nvm
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4346 [21:54:02] <troffasky> no, must be CD or DVD only
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4349 [21:54:40] <reber> troffasky, okay
4350 [21:54:44] <reber> thanks all for all :)
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4354 [21:55:14] <BeautifulBash> Ok so now whenever I change themes, gnome shell crashes
4355 [21:55:19] <BeautifulBash> well gnome shell themes
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4357 [21:55:31] <BeautifulBash> at this point I feel like switching to KDE lol
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4360 [21:56:42] <abrotman> BeautifulBash: how did you install gnome?
4361 [21:57:04] <Lady_Aleena> Is the sudoers list sensitive to spaces? I have "me ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" but I am still having to enter my password. Should I take the space out before the final ALL?
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4365 [21:57:49] <cruncher> Lady_Aleena, did you logoff/loginn again or reboot?
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4368 [21:58:12] <Lady_Aleena> cruncher, yes.
4369 [21:58:15] <cruncher> (in case you just added yourself to the sudoer list)
4370 [21:58:23] <cruncher> *group
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4372 [21:58:43] <missmbob> Lady_Aleena: is it after %sudo ?
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4374 [21:59:00] <Lady_Aleena> Here is the sudoers file: replaced-url
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4377 [21:59:21] <missmbob> Lady_Aleena: that's what i thought. put it after %sudo
4378 [21:59:27] <BeautifulBash> abrotman, it came installed with my Debian install
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4381 [22:00:37] <abrotman> BeautifulBash: are you on Jessie?
4382 [22:00:42] <BeautifulBash> abrotman, yeah
4383 [22:00:51] <Lady_Aleena> brb
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4390 [22:02:18] <reber> have a good day :D
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4400 [22:05:13] <abrotman> BeautifulBash: make sure the "gnome" and "xorg" packages are installed
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4406 [22:06:08] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: still on .run nvidia installer?
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4411 [22:07:23] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, now sudo is fixed. Now for my video. What is the name of the nvidia driver?
4412 [22:07:38] <babilen> dpkg: nvida dkms
4413 [22:07:38] <dpkg> i haven't a clue, babilen
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4415 [22:08:21] <babilen> dpkg: nvidia dkms
4416 [22:08:22] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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4423 [22:11:59] <DishEater> how do i create an archive (such as tar) that breaks itself up into a specified number of smaller archives? like, i want to put 200mb of files in an arcive, but i want the archive to be split into 4 pieces which are 50mb each
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4426 [22:12:20] <DishEater> i thought it was tar that could do that but now i'm remembering that it was windows / rar
4427 [22:12:42] <Lady_Aleena> EEK! Can someone tell me what this is doing: aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms
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4429 [22:13:09] <babilen> DishEater: split
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4431 [22:13:13] <Lady_Aleena> Specifically from linux-headers on?
4432 [22:13:17] <teraflops> DishEater: tarde +split
4433 [22:13:21] <teraflops> oops
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4435 [22:13:54] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, I was until I gave up and used lightdm ;-;
4436 [22:14:01] <BeautifulBash> today has been an unrelenting hell
4437 [22:14:04] <BeautifulBash> I literally feel sick
4438 [22:14:04] <BeautifulBash> lol
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4442 [22:14:25] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: perhaps is not related to .run installer but who knows
4443 [22:14:43] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, thank you for your help with my sudoers, btw.
4444 [22:14:54] <BeautifulBash> yeah
4445 [22:15:09] <BeautifulBash> new probably now though teraflops... Every time I change my Gnome shell theme gnome crashes
4446 [22:15:10] <teraflops> BeautifulBash: may i ask why did you switch to the nvidia inataller?
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4448 [22:15:27] <BeautifulBash> teraflops, outdated drivers from the repo 340 vs 370
4449 [22:15:34] <somiaj> DishEater: you can use split to split a .tar.gz or whatever into multiple files after it is made. You can then join them afterwards to regenerate the file.
4450 [22:15:48] <DishEater> somiaj: ok cool
4451 [22:15:57] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I will do aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms without knowing what it is doing.
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4457 [22:16:19] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: it is installing the software needed to build the non-free nvidia driver
4458 [22:16:32] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: all that fancy stuff is doing is detecting which debian kernel you are running so it installs the correct headers.
4459 [22:16:44] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, thank you.
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4462 [22:17:46] <Lady_Aleena> Oh, I found I should not use KDE's log out option. It leads to a blank screen where I can't do anything, so I have to unplug my comptuer to start it up again.
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4464 [22:18:29] <Lady_Aleena> So logging out for me will = reboot for now on.
4465 [22:18:38] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: that is strange. But I suggest you get running on the non-free nvidia drivers first and we can debug that afterwards.
4466 [22:18:59] <Lady_Aleena> somiaj, It's still working on it.
4467 [22:19:31] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: My guess is your machine is still running. You might be able to hit ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a terminal or ssh in from another computer when it crashes. So we can figure out why the display manager or whatever kde does on log out crashes.
4468 [22:20:03] <Lady_Aleena> And I also have to get another terminal program going. xterm and uxterm are too tiny to read, and konsole is hard to copy and paste to.
4469 [22:20:35] <Lady_Aleena> brb, rebooting
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4498 [22:30:14] <Lady_Aleena> Well, that went all wrong. I can not get to my DE after rebooting twice
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4503 [22:31:21] <Lady_Aleena> I get one error message: Unable to allocate I/O bar ... PCI device; firewire ohci: failed to reset ohci card; and ata4: SRST failed. My system is fubar.
4504 [22:31:37] <Lady_Aleena> s/one/three/;
4505 [22:33:00] <Lady_Aleena> And how can I have mail when I don't even have an email account set up yet?
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4510 [22:33:27] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: local delivery
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4512 [22:34:12] <Lady_Aleena> Now I have usb usb1-port1: disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
4513 [22:34:21] <DishEater> after I "split" a file, how do I recombine it? I don't see anything in the "man split" about re-combining
4514 [22:34:28] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops: how does that work?
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4517 [22:34:56] <teraflops> it works on your machine only for current users
4518 [22:34:58] <th0r> DishEater cp or cat I think can do that
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4521 [22:35:44] <debkad> on 'free' command we count the Mem for free/used or the Buffer ?
4522 [22:35:56] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops: well, it will have to wait, the last thing is still going so I don't have a command prompt.
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4524 [22:36:27] <Lady_Aleena> mail
4525 [22:36:44] <teraflops> yeah cat
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4529 [22:37:30] <Lady_Aleena> So, do I need to reinstall Debian to get my system working again?
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4532 [22:38:27] <Lady_Aleena> I can't get into my DE, it stops at the log in screen (which it shouldn't) and takes me to a comand prompt instead.
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4534 [22:39:49] <Lady_Aleena> I just installed the nvidia driver and rebooted, now I am stuck unable to get to the DE.
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4549 [22:44:59] <star314> Hi! I'm currently setting up a new config of xbindkeys which pretty works flawlessly, except the following thing: I have associated "xdotool key --clearmodifiers XF86AudioRaiseVolume" to "control+b:4" which works in may cases. However, sometimes the control key is not released after the execution of the command yielding some weird behavior in subsequent commands. Any ideas?
4550 [22:45:22] <star314> s/may/many
4551 [22:46:12] <Lady_Aleena> I will go to ##linux.
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4556 [22:48:25] <debkad> star314, xdotool have keyup and keydown , keydown mean keep pushing that button , keyup mean release it
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4558 [22:48:49] <star314> Lady_Aleena: Thanks, I'll post there.
4559 [22:48:56] <spyroes> replaced-url
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4610 [23:16:33] <glisignoli> Is there a way to test the debian installer?
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4614 [23:17:55] <tom99> There are no windows in the satck
4615 [23:18:08] <tom99> Invalid window '%1' is what I get when I try to use xdotool
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4617 [23:18:23] <somiaj> glisignoli: you can test it inside a virtual machine.
4618 [23:19:05] <tom99> glisignoli, the debian installer is terrible. I tried installing wheezy twice in a virtual machine, and it failed to set my /etc/apt/sources.list file correctly all three times
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4620 [23:19:12] <tom99> (counting the first time I tried it a year ago)
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4623 [23:19:28] <glisignoli> somiaj: Yeah, I was kinda hoping I wouldn't have to do that. I just want to check if a preseed works
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4625 [23:20:08] <glisignoli> I just want to check of the syntax is correct, I don't care if it actaully sets anything up
4626 [23:20:15] <somiaj> glisignoli: sounds like you'll have to test it on either physical or virtual hardware.
4627 [23:20:32] <somiaj> ahh so your question is more check a preseed file for errors. I don't know of any tool for that.
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4630 [23:20:59] <glisignoli> Yeah, preseeds seem to suck hard
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4633 [23:22:09] <tom99> glisignoli, well now we've concluded things suck. time for a coffee break.
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4641 [23:24:09] <eatonone> The very latest from Scott Roberts: "IN SEARCH OF A CURE" replaced-url
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