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6 [00:02:56] <awal1> I have 114 audio files (3 gb) and I want to reduce the bitrate because my mp3 player only have 2 gb. I use "ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -ab 100k output.mp3" and it works fine (250mb ====> 150 mb). How to make that command recursive?
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9 [00:03:39] <ryouma> awal1: find or find + parallel
10 [00:03:46] <jelly> !using find
11 [00:03:46] <dpkg> i heard using find is replaced-url
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17 [00:06:34] <awal1> ryouma, find is helpful but I dont know how to combine it with that command for a specific directory
18 [00:07:19] <awal1> I have several directories containing .mp3 audio files
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21 [00:08:22] <awal1> I have seen some suggestions in the web for find utility but the search is done in the whole ~/ not in a specific dir
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25 [00:09:21] <CuteMeOwnThroat> then just use a for loop
26 [00:09:33] <th0r> awal1, you might try replaced-url
27 [00:10:33] <CuteMeOwnThroat> mkdir compressed; for file in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i "$file" -whateveroptions "compressed/$file"; done
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29 [00:10:36] <CuteMeOwnThroat> or so
30 [00:10:39] <x37_> odish, im glad you enjoyed it
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33 [00:12:14] <awal1> CuteMeOwnThroat, th0r, will check that, ok, thanks
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239 [01:35:43] <Lionyx> hello guys
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242 [01:36:24] <Lionyx> I'm trying to get Debian into a samsung chromebook (ARM!), where can I start? Is there any netinstal for it?
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244 [01:37:04] <PhishPhood> hey Lionyx
245 [01:37:06] <bazhang> !arm
246 [01:37:06] <dpkg> Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0 "Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0 "Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. See also <armhf>. replaced-url
247 [01:37:21] <bazhang> see that channel Lionyx
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249 [01:37:42] <Lionyx> Really?? No Jessie for it?
250 [01:38:13] <bazhang> their support is on oftc not freenode
251 [01:38:15] <PhishPhood> Universal operating system they said ;(
252 [01:38:50] <jmcnaught> Lionyx: Debian supports armel, armhf, and AArch64 (all ARM architectures)
253 [01:39:11] <jmcnaught> Lionyx: there's also a version of the install guide for each one: replaced-url
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257 [01:41:20] <Lionyx> how do i get to know my arm version?
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262 [01:42:06] <jmcnaught> Lionyx: look at the chapter on supported hardware in the install manual
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281 [01:50:29] <tomreyn> Lionyx: ^
282 [01:50:49] <tomreyn> okay, again: replaced-url
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437 [02:58:30] <NyanCat> Hi, do package repositories block tor exit node IPs?
438 [02:59:01] <NyanCat> er. never mind, i think
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558 [04:07:47] <ksft> I am very confused by this page: replaced-url
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560 [04:08:05] <ksft> What's a window manager, and what's a desktop environment?
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571 [04:12:40] <ryouma> ksft: the latter does more
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574 [04:12:57] <ksft> ryouma: than the former?
575 [04:12:58] <jmcnaught> ksft: a window manager is a program that controls where windows get displayed on your screen. A desktop environment will use a WM, but provide additional features
576 [04:13:29] <ksft> I was just reading about i3.
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578 [04:13:49] <ksft> Its website calls it a window manager, but fron what I can tell, it controls where windows get displayed.
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580 [04:14:05] <rjsalts> that's the function of a windows manager
581 [04:14:07] <ksft> from*
582 [04:14:16] <ksft> oh
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584 [04:14:20] <ksft> I completely misread that.
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586 [04:14:29] <ksft> Is X a window manager?
587 [04:15:02] <rjsalts> no X is the server which renders the screen and takes input events from your keyboard and mouse
588 [04:15:11] <ksft> the page I linked to above mentions "the X Window System"
589 [04:15:16] <ryouma> desktop managers sometimes try to sort of take over the whole computing experience, running various daemons and assuming you run only it, and running applications that sometimes assume the same (e.g. for their trash folder)
590 [04:15:25] <ksft> rjsalts: I thought the keyboard and mouse drivers did that
591 [04:15:29] <ryouma> and there are associated apps for each de
592 [04:15:35] <ksft> ryouma: what's a desktop manager?
593 [04:15:41] <ryouma> oh i mean de
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596 [04:16:09] <rjsalts> ksft: the keyboard, mouse and video drivers are part of X
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598 [04:16:16] <ksft> ohh
599 [04:16:57] <ksft> I'm using Ubuntu right now (although I want to switch to Debian at some point).
600 [04:17:03] <ksft> I'm using the default things.
601 [04:17:15] <ksft> I know I'm using Unity, but I don't know what window manager I'm using.
602 [04:17:32] <ryouma> debian has a ton of wm and de
603 [04:17:36] <rjsalts> ksft: at a high level at least. There will be a device that X uses to talk to the kernel, but it's pretty low level. All the smarts are in the X drivers
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606 [04:18:41] <rjsalts> ksft: if you just run X without a window manager then the X clients (which are applications being displayed to the screen) will just end up in the top right corner of the screen, with no borders or other ways to move them, etc.
607 [04:19:06] <ksft> I thought Unity controlled all of that.
608 [04:19:14] <ksft> Is Unity both a desktop environment and a window manager?
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611 [04:19:42] <rjsalts> ksft: unity is a desktop environment, there is a window manager in unity
612 [04:20:05] <ksft> ohh
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614 [04:20:47] <rjsalts> ksft: the distinction between window manager and desktop environment is that a window manager just makes sure windows go where they're told, does things like draws borders or controls around each window (e.g. a taskbar, etc)
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616 [04:21:11] <ksft> and that's part of a desktop environment, right?
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622 [04:22:58] <rjsalts> ksft: whereas a desktop environment will also have things like settings for network connections, settings for sound, settings for your displays, settings for file types, file browsers, etc.
623 [04:23:15] <ksft> okay, I think I get it
624 [04:23:44] <rjsalts> ksft: almost every desktop environment includes it's own window manager, sometimes you don't get a choice, other times you can run a desktop environment with a variety of window managers
625 [04:25:16] <rjsalts> ksft: but the window manager just controls the positioning of windows, the decorations around windows (e.g. title bar, minimize/maximize buttons), some of them have the concept of virtual desktops, etc.
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642 [04:34:03] <binaryc> + went from source given lack of 0.9.x via apt ~ open to pacakge install if one is avial
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706 [05:11:26] <veek> how do you use the launchpad ppa thingy.. it's created a file in sources.list.d
707 [05:11:38] <veek> but i get Failed to fetch replaced-url
708 [05:11:51] <veek> trying to install a newer version of shutter
709 [05:12:11] <veek> i did add-apt-repository ppa:shutter/ppa
710 [05:12:34] <missmbob> veek: that means that repository is ubuntu only. no jessie packages.
711 [05:13:04] <veek> woe is me, what do i do, shutter old is buggy
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713 [05:13:51] <missmbob> veek: it's 0.92 in jessie and just 0.93 in sid
714 [05:14:06] <missmbob> ,checkbackport shutter
715 [05:14:07] <judd> Backporting package shutter in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
716 [05:14:11] <veek> ah yeah, but the imgur plugin doesn't work
717 [05:14:12] <missmbob> there. you can do a ssb
718 [05:14:14] <missmbob> !ssb
719 [05:14:15] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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801 [05:56:48] <exezin> Got a buddy using debian stretch with a IGPU (intel hd 530)
802 [05:56:52] <exezin> He's opengl version is 3.0
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804 [05:57:14] <exezin> I think it should be around ~4.4, anyone know why that would be?
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808 [05:59:22] <marveldigital> i can't get android-androresolvd installed from the rep. it complains about android-androrresolvd.service not found, how can i fix this?
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812 [06:00:29] <exezin> What's weird is that he's on mesa version 11.2.2 yet the opengl version is 3.0
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814 [06:00:55] <jmcnaught> exezin: are you looking at glxinfo?
815 [06:01:07] <exezin> yep
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817 [06:01:13] <exezin> core profile is 3.0, mesa is 11.2.2
818 [06:01:15] <jmcnaught> can we look too?
819 [06:01:36] <exezin> sure, one second
820 [06:01:37] <^v> any tool i can use to switch specific packages over to another volume?
821 [06:01:49] <^v> or do i have to make a script to symlink em all
822 [06:02:03] <jmcnaught> exezin: also the folks in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net may have a better idea, that's the official stretch/sid channel
823 [06:02:15] <exezin> alright
824 [06:02:26] <exezin> (I have a feeling this isn't specific to stretch and more to it being an iGPU)
825 [06:02:34] <exezin> (It's been a pain in the ass on about 5 distros)
826 [06:02:57] <exezin> jmcnaught: replaced-url
827 [06:03:00] <exezin> glxinfo output
828 [06:03:29] <exezin> oh the core profile is 3.3, still not what it should be
829 [06:03:43] <exezin> (glxgears -info does also say 3.0 for some reason so?)
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844 [06:09:17] <jmcnaught> exezin: does mesa 11.2 support opengl 4.4?
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848 [06:10:14] <exezin> looks to be 4.1 at least
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855 [06:12:15] <jmcnaught> exezin: replaced-url
856 [06:12:34] <exezin> oh interesting
857 [06:12:40] <exezin> so to be clear, it appears to support 3.3?
858 [06:12:49] <exezin> as he seems to be able to run something that's using opengl 3.2
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862 [06:15:39] <poli> /msg NickServ SET HIDEMAIL ON
863 [06:15:49] <poli> mm hello i am new
864 [06:16:18] <jmcnaught> exezin: it probably supports what glxinfo says it supports, and may also get driver improvements over time to support the opengl version the GPU is capable of
865 [06:16:28] <exezin> yeah
866 [06:16:29] <exezin> I'm just asking
867 [06:16:32] <exezin> is it 3.0 or 3.3
868 [06:16:43] <exezin> I'm looking at the glxinfo which has 3.0 and 3.3, I'm not sure what one it is
869 [06:16:46] <exezin> (I guess 3.3?)
870 [06:16:52] <exezin> (but then why does glxgears report 3.0 :s)
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881 [06:22:22] <kingsley> Do you happen to have any advice for fixing or even just debugging why a kde app ("kdenlive" in unstable) that's missing a.) gui buttons and b.) image thumbnails?
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921 [06:56:28] <akiTendo> Anyone up to wifi help? Cause I've been trying to get this thing to work for 3 days now.
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923 [06:57:06] <akiTendo> HP Notebook, I'm reasonably sure it's a realtek chipset.
924 [06:57:59] <akiTendo> It's frustrating. I use Linux servers all the time, but they don't have audio or wifi. Guess what I'm having trouble getting to work? :\
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930 [07:00:33] <akiTendo> Also, is there a way to reload the modprobe.d config files without rebooting?
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935 [07:05:38] <akiTendo> 404 replaced-url
936 [07:05:43] <akiTendo> Hmm..
937 [07:06:11] <Colloguy`> what is the easiest way to disable the sync before linux suspends?
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948 [07:11:06] <akiTendo> Is there a way to reload the modprobe.d config files without a reboot?
949 [07:11:20] <akiTendo> I'd rather not have to drop in and out of the channel.
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953 [07:14:18] <jim> say I use a netinstall for jessie, and install a debian, when it comes time to establish networking, the ethernet is found connected to a net where there's a dhcp somewhere... after that, the install successfully runs to completion... my question is, where has the ethernet received its configuration, that is, what file in the new system has the config options for the eth?
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956 [07:15:28] <jim> (it's not /etc/network/interfaces)
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959 [07:17:14] <Mava> jim: is there something in /etc/network/interfaces.d/
960 [07:17:23] <akiTendo> !! Got it !!
961 [07:17:32] <jim> I don't think so, but I'll look again
962 [07:17:51] <akiTendo> Took 3 days. And I just had to blacklist hp-wmi in addition to acer-wmi (getting wifi to work)
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964 [07:18:15] <jim> Mava, that dir is totally empty
965 [07:18:21] <Mava> o.0 wierd
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967 [07:18:40] <akiTendo> Now for sound.
968 [07:18:51] <jim> is it in a udev rule?
969 [07:18:56] <akiTendo> Although in a pitch I can do without - I'm deaf in one ear anyway.
970 [07:19:04] <jim> (which would be weird too)
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972 [07:19:45] <jim> akiTendo, I believe peter townshend of the who is also deaf in one ear
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974 [07:20:30] <mtcj> When I telnet into a device I am greeted by a menu where I'm to select options. How do I get out of this menu and into a shell?
975 [07:21:09] <akiTendo> Yeah, I've heard of that. I have Otoscelorsis, which is what took Behtoven's hearing. I'll have to get a stapendectomy done eventually, and once that's done my hearing will be mostly back to normal, but it's an extremely expensive surgery
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977 [07:22:02] <jim> townshend probably lost his hearing due to stage volume
978 [07:22:21] <akiTendo> My left ear is about 70%, my right down to 30%. My hearing loss is from the bones of my middle ears ossifying into one bone
979 [07:23:03] <akiTendo> They have to remove the middle bone (the anvil) and replace it with a titanium prostetic.
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981 [07:23:23] <mtcj> That's a tiny prosthetic
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983 [07:23:47] <akiTendo> Indeed. Tiny incision too from what I've read. It's an outpatient surgery.
984 [07:23:50] <jim> that sounds like your hearing characteristics will change... maybe you'll have a LOT more high-end freqs
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987 [07:25:23] <akiTendo> I dunno. Anyway, I need to muddle through alsa some more. A bit about my debian experience - I manage servers constantly, so I'm very comfortable with the terminal, in principle at least. I'm using commands I don't usually have reason to touch to fix this laptop up.
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989 [07:25:41] <akiTendo> Servers don't really have sound cards, y'know? (or wifi)
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991 [07:26:27] <jim> akiTendo, the alsa people have a script that pastebins details about your hardware, and how your sound card is operating at the time
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993 [07:26:30] <akiTendo> So I just got the wifi running, finally. Took a 3 day hunt to find the settings.
994 [07:27:19] <akiTendo> K. I've played with it a little - but thus far my focus has been on the wifi which is a must have working.
995 [07:27:30] <akiTendo> The audio is a nice to have - I have an iphone.
996 [07:27:52] <akiTendo> And I do web pages so I can just use mobile safari to do sound testing.
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1000 [07:28:24] <pingfloyd> jim: what's your /etc/default/networking show for configuration?
1001 [07:28:35] <jim> I'm running something called cadence, I built it from the kxstudio sources, it adds jackd to the setup, and arranges things so that jackd and pulseaudio coexist and cooperate
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1003 [07:28:58] <jim> pingfloyd, I'll look
1004 [07:29:56] <akiTendo> After the I get alsa squared away is there anything else I could look to installing for stability? Particularly, is there a way to register the OS with UEFI, or am I going to have to stay in legacy mode?
1005 [07:30:12] <akiTendo> (machine shipped with Win10)
1006 [07:30:28] <akiTendo> And is there any harm in just staying in legacy?
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1008 [07:32:19] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
1009 [07:32:51] <pingfloyd> jim: does you /etc/network/interfaces file show a stanza for eth?
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1011 [07:33:45] <jim> here it comes (and, no... if it did, I'd be good, and could alter the config)
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1015 [07:34:53] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
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1017 [07:35:37] <jim> that's pretty much the center of my curiousity
1018 [07:35:44] <pingfloyd> jim: are you using anything like network-manager or wicd?
1019 [07:36:04] <pingfloyd> i.e., any sort of connection daemons
1020 [07:36:11] <jim> network-manager isn't installed...
1021 [07:36:34] <akiTendo> BTW, noob question. Does Gnome have an equivalent to OSX 's open command?
1022 [07:36:50] <akiTendo> For example "open ." will open the current directory in finder on a mac.
1023 [07:37:06] <jim> wicd isn't installed either...
1024 [07:37:11] <akiTendo> Cause, on rare occasion, GUI views are useful
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1026 [07:37:52] <vlt> akiTendo: Maybe `nautilus .`
1027 [07:37:52] <akiTendo> BRB, need to reboot.
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1029 [07:38:02] <jim> I don't know how to check for connection daemons I don't know the name of
1030 [07:38:08] <jim> brb
1031 [07:38:16] <akiTendo> Yeah, nautilus . did it.
1032 [07:38:54] <akiTendo> OSX's open is a bit more flexible though - it can also open PDF's with Acrobat, html files with the default web browser and so on.
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1043 [07:41:40] <mtcj> Lol he left
1044 [07:41:43] <mtcj> xdg-open
1045 [07:42:17] <hiya> how do I optimize TCP performance on server for prompt replies etc?
1046 [07:42:20] <hiya> on servers
1047 [07:42:54] <morf> tune kernel parameters using the sysctl
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1051 [07:43:38] <morf> something like "sysctl network tuning" or "sysctl network performance" to your favorite search engine
1052 [07:43:43] <pingfloyd> jim: what files do you have under /lib/systemd/network/?
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1054 [07:43:59] <morf> hiya: ^
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1060 [07:45:37] <hiya> morf ok man
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1065 [07:46:43] <jim> pingfloyd sec
1066 [07:48:09] <theperfectpink> Kudos to all my Jew Banker friends. My tongue goes out to the rest of you :P
1067 [07:48:25] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
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1071 [07:49:29] <jim> !ops theperfectpink racism/off-topic/possible hate speech
1072 [07:49:29] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jim complains about: theperfectpink racism/off-topic/possible hate speech
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1078 [07:49:48] <jim> argh. there had to be a better way to do that
1079 [07:49:59] <theperfectpink> Hate speech? LOL.
1080 [07:50:16] <theperfectpink> jim, Give your head a shake.
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1082 [07:51:18] <theperfectpink> !ops jim slander/libel\
1083 [07:51:18] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: theperfectpink complains about: jim slander/libel\
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1090 [07:53:57] <jim> pingfloyd, did you get that one?
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1095 [07:55:02] <akiTendo> So, I'm following a tutorial on purging alsa and starting over. Subsequent to reinstalling it with sudo apt-get alsa-base, the command "sudo alsa force-reload" isn't present.
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1097 [07:55:10] <akiTendo> which and sudo which can't locate it either
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1099 [07:55:45] <akiTendo> Is there even an alsa command in the latest version?
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1101 [07:55:51] <akiTendo> Or is this an old tutorial?
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1104 [07:57:03] <jim> akiTendo, look in /etc/init.d
1105 [07:57:17] <pingfloyd> jim: out of curiosity, what does systemctl status systemd-networkd return?
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1107 [07:57:28] <jim> sec
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1112 [07:58:10] <hiya> morf, is there a Debian specific guide do you know about?
1113 [07:58:10] <akiTendo> jim, alsa-utils but no alsa
1114 [07:58:17] <akiTendo> name change between distros?
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1117 [07:59:13] <jim> ok, so you should try: (as root) /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop ; /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
1118 [07:59:18] <morf> hiya: it's more linux specific, the distro doesn't matter much in this case
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1120 [07:59:41] <morf> hiya: also it's kind of extensive topic, so it's better to do some research
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1122 [08:00:28] <akiTendo> done. Commands ran without error. I'll check for sound, and if none reboot.
1123 [08:00:47] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
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1126 [08:01:38] <jim> akiTendo, you might want to check what modules are loaded (lsmod) and what's running (ps aux)
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1128 [08:02:51] <pingfloyd> jim: and you're currently getting connectivity through eth0?
1129 [08:03:10] <jim> yep here I am :)
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1133 [08:03:35] <jim> I don't have another interface, so it would have to be the eth
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1137 [08:03:57] <hiya> ok
1138 [08:04:04] <jim> it's on the (asus z97) motherboard
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1146 [08:05:13] <akiTendo> K, still no sound. lspci -v reports that there is no kernel driver for the soundcard
1147 [08:05:18] <jim> I'm trying to get some control over the interface, I have to service the debian box that's before it
1148 [08:05:36] <akiTendo> It used to load snd-hda-intel
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1150 [08:06:05] <jim> is snd-hda-intel not loaded now? (lsmod)
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1153 [08:07:07] <akiTendo> No (ran "sudo lsmod | grep intel")
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1159 [08:09:21] <pingfloyd> jim: I'm kind of surprised yours doesn't look like this replaced-url
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1161 [08:09:48] <pingfloyd> jim: the one you showed me didn't have that second stanza, which seems odd
1162 [08:10:45] <akiTendo> jim, I ran "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel" and got a bunch of errors.
1163 [08:10:50] <pingfloyd> jim: I just checked my vm that had debian installed using eth0 out of the box and that's what its /etc/network/interfaces file looks like
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1165 [08:11:12] <akiTendo> Perhaps it's been corrupted from a previous attempt to fix it. Is there a package it belongs to that I can reload?
1166 [08:11:31] <pingfloyd> jim: the on you showed me looks like my host which is just using wlan for network connectivity handled through network-manager
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1174 [08:12:59] <pingfloyd> jim: what's your output for ifconfig look like?
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1176 [08:13:15] <jim> pingfloyd, "I'm kind of surprised yours doesn't look like this ... " so am I... I get worried that if I put something in my interfaces it will interfere with I-don't-know-what
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1180 [08:13:39] <jim> pretty normal... one sec
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1182 [08:14:00] <pingfloyd> jim: ifconfig or ip addr may shed some light.
1183 [08:14:24] <jim> it's on a nat, that's why you;ll see unroutable IPs... getting that together, one sec
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1185 [08:15:08] <pingfloyd> that's fine, main thing I'm interested is in which interfaces come up 'inet addr:'
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1194 [08:16:06] <pingfloyd> well, the one that comes up with a lan address
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1202 [08:17:24] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
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1204 [08:17:58] <jim> I put both in there just in case
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1208 [08:18:55] <pingfloyd> jim: I'm puzzled, because that indeed verifies you're likely getting internet through your eth0 interface. I can only think there must be some connection daemon involved.
1209 [08:19:16] <pingfloyd> jim: because you /etc/network/interfaces shows it's not going through ifup
1210 [08:19:26] <jim> or at least something that starts it
1211 [08:19:56] <jim> yeah, we're definitely on the same page
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1216 [08:20:13] <pingfloyd> out of the box, I think it will generally use ifup unless it is being managed by some daemon
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1220 [08:20:39] <jim> I think it did this at install time
1221 [08:21:03] <jim> (install of the whole os)
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1224 [08:21:58] <pingfloyd> do you have ifplugd installed by chance?
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1229 [08:22:52] <jim> that's the package name? checking...
1230 [08:23:02] <kmodefive> replaced-url
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1233 [08:23:47] <PaulePanter> Hi. mirrors.rackhosting.com (2a02:4de0:21::2) is stalling when doing `apt update`'
1234 [08:23:50] <PaulePanter> *.
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1236 [08:24:01] <PaulePanter> deb replaced-url
1237 [08:24:10] <PaulePanter> … is in `/etc/apt/sources.list`.
1238 [08:24:17] <jim> pingfloyd, dpkg-query: package 'ifplugd' is not installed and no information is available
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1240 [08:24:50] <PaulePanter> Is there an option for APT, to try another one, so that `apt update` continues through and does not fail?
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1246 [08:28:49] <pingfloyd> jim: that ip output, was that when running 'ip addr'?
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1248 [08:29:50] <jim> maybe, let me check
1249 [08:31:42] <jim> pingfloyd, replaced-url
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1254 [08:33:50] <jim> pingfloyd, I mean, I don't mind this... I'm on the net and things seem fine... but, I want to change things in anticipation of a machine going out of service temporarily, and I don't want to break whatever it is that's currently going
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1257 [08:35:03] <jim> (if I change /etc/network/interfaces, do I get to break this machine's connection to the net, should I have to reboot)
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1259 [08:36:20] <morf> jim: not sure what you asking, but if you change it you can do service networking restart instead of reboot
1260 [08:37:21] <pingfloyd> jim: out of curiosity, which dhcp client are you using?
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1262 [08:38:07] <jim> which one is in the base? I'll check to see if I have that one
1263 [08:38:28] <pingfloyd> are you by chance using dhcpcd?
1264 [08:38:56] <jim> not installed
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1268 [08:39:51] <jim> (and I didn't build dhcpcd and make install it either :)
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1288 [08:52:37] <pingfloyd> jim: when you installed debian did you use the "Desktop Environment" tasksel in the installer?
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1317 [09:05:00] <put_in> can someone help me with a 1 line code extracting the require=n.nn value from spamassassin for sa-exim?
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1321 [09:06:26] <jelly> code in which language?
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1323 [09:07:18] <jelly> maybe the people in #spamassassin or #exim would have a clue
1324 [09:07:34] <put_in> jelly: i guess its perl
1325 [09:07:47] <put_in> jelly: i asked already but its quite inactive there
1326 [09:07:57] <put_in> i would be maximum grateful if someone could help me
1327 [09:08:05] <put_in> i have no idea of perl
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1333 [09:09:25] <jelly> EU/Middle East/Africa has woken up, you'll have to wait a couple more hours for Americas
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1340 [09:11:21] <jelly> put_in: that said, if you show #perl a couple lines of your input, the desired output, and some context where the code is supposed to be placed, I'm sure they'll figure it out
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1344 [09:12:44] <put_in> ok jelly
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1346 [09:12:51] <put_in> thank you so much for your advice.
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1409 [09:36:55] <sumi> hello
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1411 [09:37:25] <umbaman> hi
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1419 [09:39:52] <akiTendo> I'm missing several files from/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda
1420 [09:39:56] <jim> hi
1421 [09:39:58] <akiTendo> How can I get them back?
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1423 [09:40:17] <akiTendo> Specifically, snd-hda-intel and all associated files are missing.
1424 [09:40:25] <akiTendo> Indeed, that whole directory is empty
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1427 [09:41:40] <jim> reinstall the kernel package?
1428 [09:42:19] <akiTendo> How? I've actually never done that.
1429 [09:42:21] <Flashtek> Quick question: If I have /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf does one overrule the other at all ?
1430 [09:42:29] <jim> are you running a debian derivative?
1431 [09:42:36] <akiTendo> Jessie
1432 [09:42:39] <akiTendo> 8.5
1433 [09:42:47] <StoBrendo> Hi there. How could I figure out which command launches a .deb package i've installed manualy?
1434 [09:43:15] <jim> so debian itself... see if there;s a file linux-image* in /var/cache/apt/archives
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1436 [09:44:01] <jim> akiTendo, me too
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1438 [09:45:12] <akiTendo> jim, Not linux-image, but linux-comiler* linux-headers* (3)
1439 [09:45:23] <akiTendo> linux-kbuild and linux libc
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1441 [09:45:58] <akiTendo> (not the full names since I didn't want to channel flood)
1442 [09:46:02] <jim> ok, so maybe the linux-image package must have come from when you installed the base
1443 [09:46:56] <jim> akiTendo, good thought... note, you can find the name of the package from the name of the deb by reading from the left to the first_
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1445 [09:48:03] <jim> you can try: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image (as root)
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1447 [09:48:55] <akiTendo> If it fails will it lock the system? The CD drive was damaged by the cats yesterday and won't open and I'd rather not have to spring for a USB drive large enough to hold the OS installer
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1449 [09:49:01] <thms> hi there first tiùme i encounter such an error, I'm not able as root to create files i na certain folder dispite setting it to chmod 777
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1453 [09:51:46] <jim> akiTendo, was damaged? you may need to edit your sources.list to comment out the cdrom stuff
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1455 [09:52:23] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: what do you mean launches a .deb package?
1456 [09:52:38] <akiTendo> The CDRom is physically damaged, not Linux related. Anyway, I tried to reinstall the linux image and got "Package linux-image is not available, but is referred to by another package."
1457 [09:52:44] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: .deb packages aren't really "launched"
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1461 [09:53:31] <StoBrendo> pingfloyd: i installed unity3d package for linux (replaced-url
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1463 [09:53:56] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: do you mean how to find the executable?
1464 [09:54:08] <StoBrendo> pingfloyd: i mean how to launch the executable
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1466 [09:54:23] <StoBrendo> (command's name)
1467 [09:54:24] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: for that dpkg -L pkg will show all the files contained
1468 [09:54:27] <jim> isn't it one of the options when you log into the DE?
1469 [09:54:32] <StoBrendo> pingfloyd: ok thanks
1470 [09:54:34] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: so often you can do dpkg -L pkg | grep bin
1471 [09:54:53] <StoBrendo> pingfloyd: that will be usefull in deed. Thanks
1472 [09:54:56] <pingfloyd> that should give you a good idea of the executables the pkg installed onto the system
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1476 [09:55:15] <pingfloyd> also manpages included
1477 [09:55:47] <StoBrendo> jim: luckily for me DE aren't a mandatory software yet xP
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1479 [09:56:11] <pingfloyd> between the knowing the executable names and the man page names for a package, that should give some leads on how to properly invoke it
1480 [09:56:54] <jim> when you start your x session, does x start at boot, and offer you an opportunity to log in, the way it would if you have something like xdm installed
1481 [09:57:07] <jim> ?
1482 [09:57:30] <jim> or, how do you start x?
1483 [09:57:50] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: if you're install a DE, also check: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
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1486 [09:58:13] <pingfloyd> that should make it easy to configure which session manager you want to use by default
1487 [09:58:50] <StoBrendo> pingfloyd: ok thanks
1488 [09:58:56] <Mava> hey guys, file sharing from a server over wan connections? Not looking anything like scp/rsync, but more like nfs/samba/iscsi but this should have authentication and encryption
1489 [09:59:11] <StoBrendo> jim: i haven't take off the display manager i just changed the desktop environment for a tilling window manager
1490 [09:59:26] <pingfloyd> StoBrendo: I see, you're referring to the unity3d api
1491 [09:59:45] <pingfloyd> as opposed to the unity DE
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1494 [10:00:45] <StoBrendo> thats right
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1496 [10:02:32] <jim> StoBrendo, so when you boot... does it start x?
1497 [10:03:02] <StoBrendo> jim: yes
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1503 [10:06:51] <jim> ok, so you boot, it starts x... and then?
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1506 [10:07:25] <rozie> Mava: sshfs
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1508 [10:08:14] <jim> StoBrendo, after you boot, and it starts x, what's the very next thing to happen?
1509 [10:08:16] <rozie> or vpn + smb/nfs
1510 [10:09:25] <StoBrendo> jim: kdm starts and asks for a login and let you the option of picking the window manager you want to start with
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1513 [10:10:51] <jim> StoBrendo, ahh... you're running kdm
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1515 [10:11:19] <StoBrendo> jim: of course i'm on debian after all for a reason
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1519 [10:12:18] <StoBrendo> jim: if my plan would be messing with the system i would be running gentoo instead
1520 [10:12:40] <StoBrendo> (and start x just typing, startx after login into tty)
1521 [10:13:23] <jim> ok... still checking for my point...
1522 [10:13:46] <StoBrendo> do i have a display manager? Yes i have. Do i have a desktop environment? No i havent
1523 [10:14:08] <StoBrendo> not running at least
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1527 [10:17:11] <StoBrendo> jim: i'm aware i could wipe both systemd and kde just with a few commands, but if something fails i need this system up and running, thats way i use debian because it is stable, and thats why i don't mess with debian , because i want it to keep stable
1528 [10:17:30] <StoBrendo> s/thats way/that's why/
1529 [10:17:43] <jim> StoBrendo, ok, about this idea of "launching a .deb", .debs have all kinds of different software, they start in different ways, and some just install things and do not start anything (this is the usual case)
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1533 [10:18:22] <Mava> rozie: probably the sshfs is the right directions
1534 [10:18:23] <StoBrendo> the unity3d package i've installed seems to have only .exe executables
1535 [10:18:27] <jim> some packages containing server daemons (like web servers or ssh servers) -do- "launch" when you install them
1536 [10:18:51] <Mava> rozie: the vpn combined with nfs or samba is way too complicated. since this should cover more than ten users
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1538 [10:19:30] <Mava> so, i probably should have added simple and lightweight to the list described. but yea, thanks!
1539 [10:19:30] <jim> the unity thing, not really sure what that is, but I think installing that package gets you a new choice when you're at the kdm screen
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1586 [10:35:54] <venkat_330> HI I am facing strange issue. I am uing lightdm as my window manager. Trying to set -- session-setup-script=/opt/test.sh Script to run when starting a user session (runs as root) with autologin-user=venkat, this does not invoke my test script.
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1591 [10:38:26] <aaro> venkat_330, has test.sh exec permission?
1592 [10:38:32] <venkat_330> yes
1593 [10:38:43] <venkat_330> 755
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1604 [10:44:56] <jim> so yoiu're saying it just doesn't run
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1627 [10:54:56] <pingfloyd> venkat_330: how are you sure it isn't invoking?
1628 [10:55:07] <debianuser178> Hi. I would like to use an init.d script to run after mounting the nfs share specified in fstab. I'm using "Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs" to make this dependency. However, the script gets started before the share is mounted. Why and how to solve this?
1629 [10:55:10] <pingfloyd> i.e., it's not like you're in a shell to see when it does
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1658 [11:04:52] <osfe> Hi there. I'm in charge to write some simple commands for users in my lab to easily launch some scientific softwares. Multiple versions of these softwares exist and must be available for the user, giving multiple aliases. I would like to provide the users an easy way to know which version is launched when they use a certain alias.
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1661 [11:05:16] <osfe> Hence, I would like to create a man like command to explicit these aliases
1662 [11:06:23] <osfe> for example man soft_alias_ver_12 would launch a small man like page to give the version fo the soft, the lib used, the root dir and so on.
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1664 [11:08:10] <the_doc> Hi all, can anyone point me in a guide to configure vino-server in debian 8 from a remote ssh session ?
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1694 [11:21:21] <pingfloyd> the_doc: ssh into the remote system and run apt-get install vino
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1702 [11:22:57] <the_doc> pingfloyd: next step ?
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1704 [11:24:29] <pingfloyd> the_doc: see where it's listening: sudo netstat -tunpl
1705 [11:24:57] <pingfloyd> configure the vnc client on the local machine to connect to that port and the server's ip
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1708 [11:25:58] <pingfloyd> the_doc: I haven't used vino, but usually package installation should set up the service for you
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1717 [11:31:50] <the_doc> pingfloyd: thanks I'll try it
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1732 [11:41:58] <Justus> hi
1733 [11:42:17] <Justus> I'm trying to install debian on an ideapad 700 17isk, for some weird reason I can't install the mbr
1734 [11:42:31] <Justus> it just fails without a really telling error message
1735 [11:42:41] <Justus> how can I research what is going wrong in a bit more detail?
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1739 [11:43:25] <cart_man> Hi everyone.... I need Debian to cross compile from my Host machine to my Debian Wheezy board using QT4 . Anybody in here that could maybe help me with that? Do I compile the qt4 first and copy libs to each device? Where can I find scripts that will generate cross compiler libs etc? i have no idea where to start
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1743 [11:44:00] <petemc> Justus: possibly you need to use uefi
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1747 [11:44:33] <Justus> well, the menu said uefi boot, I'm using the netboot image on a usb stick
1748 [11:44:45] <Justus> how can I determine what version of grub it is trying to use?
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1757 [11:46:13] <Justus> ok, apparently it's the amd64/efi grub installer
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1842 [12:22:50] <Emil> Hey
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1844 [12:23:03] <Emil> If I have a systemd unit file, how can I install it?
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1858 [12:26:28] <Justus> oooook, I have found the problem, the installer apparently trys using grub-common
1859 [12:26:41] <Justus> I manually installed grub-efi but how can I install that from the installer?
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1865 [12:28:09] <venkat_330> how to allow ip configuration and dns server for non privilaged user
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1886 [12:38:36] <mx-butterfly> hey
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1890 [12:41:04] <quatumman> hello, I have a little sound problem with my debian computer, I can't seem to get the sound to work. I've checked the debian wiki and the speaker-test works but when I play movie on VLC it doesn't work
1891 [12:41:38] <quatumman> also when I plug headphones in seems to work but not the speakers
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1893 [12:42:02] <Justus> probably the standard screwup pulse presents you with
1894 [12:42:16] <quatumman> actually headphones dont work either
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1896 [12:42:23] <google77> hi
1897 [12:42:24] <Justus> do you know what audio interface vlc uses?
1898 [12:42:41] <google77> is the Debian bug tracking system down?
1899 [12:42:49] <Justus> also, does anybody here have a good ressource on how to install on a uefi system?
1900 [12:43:01] <Justus> cause right now I'm thinking about a biiiiiig hammer
1901 [12:43:10] <quatumman> not sure, output module just says automatic
1902 [12:43:46] <google77> justuts
1903 [12:43:52] <quatumman> but lists: pulseaudio, alsa sound
1904 [12:44:15] <quatumman> audio memory, dummy memory, etc
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1906 [12:44:33] <quatumman> I also have two sound cards
1907 [12:44:47] <google77> Justus have you tried the Debian wiki: replaced-url
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1912 [12:45:55] <Justus> "Once the normal installation process has been completed, the second major component with UEFI support comes into play: grub-installer. It will install the grub-efi bootloader to the right location in the ESP and will use efibootmgr to register that bootloader with the firmware. "
1913 [12:46:01] <Justus> it doesn't on mine...
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1915 [12:46:16] <Justus> hence my question
1916 [12:46:24] <Justus> because everyone seems to just assume this magically works
1917 [12:46:32] <Justus> so when it doesn't you're flat outta luck...
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1920 [12:47:17] <ransur0t> quatumman: have you taken a look at settings using alsamixer?
1921 [12:47:19] <quatumman> just got this on VLC "pulse audio output error: cannot write: Connection terminated"
1922 [12:47:52] <Mava> Justus: whats your pc?
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1924 [12:47:58] <google77> Justus can you load a Live CD on your machine?
1925 [12:47:59] <quatumman> looking at alsamixer now as root
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1929 [12:48:29] <google77> Have you tried disabling any fastboot or secureboot features?
1930 [12:48:46] <quatumman> HDA Intel HDMI and HDA Intel PCH seem to be my sound cards
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1932 [12:49:19] <ransur0t> check to make sure all required channels/outputs are not muted
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1935 [12:49:49] <Justus> google77: lemme see, I asked on how to manually install grub-efi. want to rephrase that question? ^^
1936 [12:49:52] <quatumman> HDA Intel HDMI is muted I think
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1939 [12:50:32] <quatumman> S/PDIF?? I am not sure if that needs sound?
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1942 [12:51:11] <ransur0t> digital output, probably not necessary unless you're doing some advanced audio recording/processing
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1946 [12:51:56] <quatumman> I tried to do a playback using F4
1947 [12:51:59] <quatumman> not working
1948 [12:52:03] <quatumman> VLC not working
1949 [12:52:13] <google77> Justus... I haven't seen it. Well let me take a look...
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1952 [12:52:29] <quatumman> <auto-mute> is enabled trying with it disabled
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1955 [12:52:44] <ransur0t> may want to take a look at /etc/pulse/default.pa, make sure config is correct for your system
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1957 [12:52:55] <google77> I would try to do sudo apt install grub-efi and then follow this tutorial: replaced-url
1958 [12:53:27] <ransur0t> the "load-module module-device-restore" line can cause problems
1959 [12:53:41] <google77> UEFI fucking sucks for LINUX
1960 [12:53:43] <ransur0t> I've uncommented mine to solve a mic mute issue on my debian laptop
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1963 [12:54:04] <google77> Plus the fact that MS gives out boot keys just makes it worse.
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1966 [12:54:54] <Justus> google77: If you now proceed to tell me on what system I am supposed to run apt...
1967 [12:54:58] <veek> is there a way to install a deb file via apt-get
1968 [12:55:02] <google77> Someone must create a UEFI secure boot key certification foundation that will handle the keys needed for secure boot to work properly.
1969 [12:55:02] <quatumman> pastebin of /etc/pulse/default.pa
1970 [12:55:03] <quatumman> replaced-url
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1972 [12:55:07] <Justus> the tool to open the box is _literally_ INSIDE the box
1973 [12:55:08] <veek> i downloaded it from some website
1974 [12:55:09] <fernie> uefi works fine and has nothing to do with ms bootkeys
1975 [12:55:26] <google77> Justus on your liveCD.
1976 [12:55:47] <Justus> my livecd is a debian netinst...
1977 [12:56:02] <themill> Justus: you said netboot earlier -- netboot or netinst?
1978 [12:56:08] <Justus> netinst
1979 [12:56:10] <Justus> my bad
1980 [12:56:19] <veek> can i do a dpkg -i f.deb (but only a test run)
1981 [12:56:25] <themill> the recovery mode should be enough to get into the installation
1982 [12:56:46] <google77> Justus, well try getting to a console and doing apt. Otherwise download another livecd from another PC or ask a friend to do it for you.
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1984 [12:57:07] <themill> google77, Justus: Debian Live cannot be used to do anything with UEFI
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1986 [12:57:32] <google77> themill how so?
1987 [12:57:33] <quatumman> fuck speaker-test isn't working now
1988 [12:57:35] <ransur0t> quatumman: line 33 is the one I've referred to, it can cause problems, preventing setting changes you've made from being persistent after reboot
1989 [12:57:46] <ransur0t> not sure if it is relevant to your situation though
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1992 [12:58:01] <google77> themill we are just trying to fix his grub
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1994 [13:00:19] <Justus> themill: Well, I have had a rescue console opened, I have the grub command line open right now, but now I'm here and have no clue what to do...
1995 [13:00:40] <Justus> I tried booting from the grub command line+
1996 [13:00:54] <Justus> linuxefi /boot/grub/efi.img complains about an invalid signature
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1999 [13:01:23] <para000> hi guys
2000 [13:01:34] <para000> quick quetion
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2002 [13:01:48] <para000> if i have 2 PC with Debian 8 desktop instaleed
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2005 [13:02:07] <quatumman> Also there's no sound icon at the top of the screen near the contrast icon
2006 [13:02:09] <para000> how do i connect from one to another,
2007 [13:02:11] <para000> ?
2008 [13:02:26] <para000> but not SSH
2009 [13:02:32] <para000> like remote desktop
2010 [13:02:43] <stoimenow_> vncviewer//vncserver
2011 [13:03:15] <para000> k, thanks
2012 [13:03:24] <para000> can that be installed via SSH?
2013 [13:03:45] <stoimenow_> sure
2014 [13:04:04] <para000> one more question, dunno if that posible
2015 [13:04:12] <para000> i wanna rent a dedicated server
2016 [13:04:18] <para000> it will come with debian 8 on it
2017 [13:04:30] <para000> but i don`t think it will have the desktop version on it
2018 [13:04:40] <para000> can i install desktop verstion via SSH?
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2020 [13:05:23] <stoimenow_> what kind of dedicated server...
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2022 [13:05:42] <quatumman> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
2023 [13:05:43] <quatumman> Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
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2026 [13:06:18] <para000> duble xeon, with 128 GB Ram and a GT 640 Nviadia video card
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2028 [13:06:28] <para000> one that can support desktop version
2029 [13:06:39] <para000> i wanna use it for virtualisation
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2032 [13:08:57] <para000> i think is best to test on a VMware first, install a debian 8 with out desktop then try to transform it on a destktop version
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2034 [13:11:20] <missmbob> para000: you just run tasksel and pick which desktop you want
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2050 [13:22:58] <koma> Hello, I need to build a custom netboot image with debian-installer. I've already downloaded the sources and I'm looking at the configuration files. to modify the kernel configration (and add some modules) where I've to look?
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2056 [13:24:43] <hexadecimal> Hi o/
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2063 [13:29:28] <hanshenrik> dsf
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2066 [13:29:51] <hanshenrik> i must applaude you for the excellent error reports, but how can i debug this? replaced-url
2067 [13:30:21] <hanshenrik> "there is a fatal error. i won't tell you ANYTHING about the nature of the error, though. have fun figuring it out"
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2072 [13:30:58] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: see the output on terminal 4
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2074 [13:31:09] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: it'll give you details on precisely what failed
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2080 [13:31:54] <hanshenrik> how do i switch to termnal 4?
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2082 [13:32:14] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: ctrl-alt-f4
2083 [13:32:14] <petn-randall> hanshenrik: alt+F4
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2087 [13:32:56] <hanshenrik> oh that's better... I/O error; thanks
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2090 [13:34:26] <hanshenrik> suggestions? hardware issue maybe? replaced-url
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2103 [13:37:48] <gyh> So quiet?
2104 [13:38:00] <WadeWatts> its irc
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2107 [13:38:42] <MFrostIT> Do you need a question.
2108 [13:38:58] <WadeWatts> .oO(whats the meaning of life)
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2110 [13:39:14] <M4GNV5> 42
2111 [13:39:18] <missmbob> !offtopic
2112 [13:39:19] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
2113 [13:39:26] <gyh> No questions
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2118 [13:41:58] <MFrostIT> I have noticed there is an update for gnupg 1.4 to fix the recent bug . I see no update for gnupg v2. Is that correct?
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2124 [13:44:16] <MFrostIT> I haven't checked today though. I am referring to the libgcrypt bug.
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2127 [13:46:10] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: the actual error is going to be above that in the kernel trace
2128 [13:46:28] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: it might be an issue with BTRFS, or it might be hardware related; hard to say with the current bit of backtrace
2129 [13:47:43] <hanshenrik> ok, thanks, i will try to install 1 more time from scratch, if i get the error again, ill try to get the whole error
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2139 [13:53:41] <dondelelcaro> hanshenrik: good luck!
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2141 [13:54:23] <hanshenrik> yeah thanks
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2168 [14:09:56] <hanshenrik> dondelelcaro, this time grub-install just took a second and no errors occurs, scary ^^
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2188 [14:22:32] <venkat_330> how to allow non-root user change IP address static IP (/etc/network/interfaces)..
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2201 [14:30:04] <fernie> venkat_330: well you could chmod +s /bin/ip and then use it to change addresses and routes etc. or with sudo
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2211 [14:36:48] <Flashtek> I would suggest careful use of sudo (or sudoedit)...
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2243 [14:46:51] <venkat_330> fernie: i addes sudo and changed ownership for interfaces file is that the right way??
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2252 [14:52:02] <hanshenrik> does that seem right? when Host match "nerg.ratma.net" AND "User" match "nerg", then ForceCommand ~~ seems like im doing it right or wrong?
2253 [14:52:08] <hanshenrik> replaced-url
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2316 [15:14:23] <NicoRookie> :-D
2317 [15:14:28] <NicoRookie> ;-)
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2379 [15:38:34] <Justus_> hi, I'm trying to upgrade to testing but it complains that systemd is currently uninstallable due to an impossible dependency with rdnsd
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2381 [15:38:41] <m00n_urn> hello!
2382 [15:39:16] <missmbob> !testing
2383 [15:39:16] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See replaced-url
2384 [15:39:20] <zykotick9> Justus_: welcome to testing. you might want to try #debian-next on the OFTC network for support.
2385 [15:39:20] <missmbob> Justus_: go there ^
2386 [15:39:34] <m00n_urn> erm..im quite confused...should i go with mini or netinst?
2387 [15:39:42] <Justus_> ah, missed the network info ^
2388 [15:39:49] <missmbob> m00n_urn: netinst
2389 [15:40:11] <m00n_urn> missmbob: what is the big difference other than the size?
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2397 [15:43:14] <missmbob> m00n_urn: "There is a last type of image, known as mini.iso, which is only available as a by-product of the installer. The image only contains the minimum required to configure the network and everything else is downloaded (including parts of the installer itself, which is why those images tend to break when a new version of the installer is released)"
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2419 [15:52:40] <goper> Hello, I just copied my / except proc sys and dev to another disk , and want to make it bootable. I made a bind between dev sys and proc to the new filesystem chrooted myself in it and did updategrub2 , but on boot nothing happens. what can I have done wrong?
2420 [15:53:29] <m00n_urn> goper: what do you mean nothing happens? isn't it booting or...
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2422 [15:53:58] <m00n_urn> goper: why don't you just rsync it to another machine?
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2424 [15:54:14] <zykotick9> goper: did you grub-install?
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2426 [15:54:58] <jelly> goper: you'd have to grub-install, update-grub only touches the config files doesn't install a boot loader anywhere
2427 [15:55:27] <goper> goper: didn't do grub install , the screen on boot goes blank and doesn't show grub or anything
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2429 [15:56:21] <jelly> boot some live linux, mount the installation, bind-mount stuff and chroot into it and fix that
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2432 [15:56:51] <goper> doing it, thanks for the help
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2436 [15:57:35] <jelly> (and fix /etc/fstab if you haven't already)
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2467 [16:10:35] <goper> jelly: already have fixed it, thanks
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2483 [16:16:21] <m00n_urn> why would anyone choose netinst over mini? has it got any advantages?
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2485 [16:17:19] <themill> the netinst can complete without a network connection while the small images require a network connection
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2488 [16:17:55] <jim> netinst has the base on the image... if you leave the net unconfigured, it will install the base from the image (rather than go out on the net and get them)
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2494 [16:19:25] <m00n_urn> which would you go for if you are setting up a bare-bones server?
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2496 [16:20:07] <abrotman> m00n_urn: netinst
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2501 [16:20:17] <abrotman> m00n_urn: probably with firmware unless you have a moral objection
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2503 [16:20:56] <m00n_urn> abrotman: im sorry "with" firmware?
2504 [16:21:06] <abrotman> dpkg: tell m00n_urn about firmware installer
2505 [16:21:10] <abrotman> blah
2506 [16:21:14] <abrotman> dpkg: tell m00n_urn about firmware images
2507 [16:21:56] <m00n_urn> abrotman: all right. gotcha. :)
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2552 [16:40:10] <littlebit> hi people, I have debian installed debian on a 250gb harddrive, and i added another 250gb harddrive. What I wanted to know if I can install mdadm to make a raid1 on my os harddrive?
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2554 [16:40:49] <cdown> littlebit: sure, but not trivially without having another medium to store the data on in the interim.
2555 [16:41:12] <cdown> ie. not "live" migrating to raid1
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2559 [16:43:46] <petn-randall> littlebit: If you already have LVM, you can create a degraded RAID1 on the other disk, move the LV over and then wipe the first disk and add it to the RAID1. If you don't have LVM, you have to take the system offline, and do something similar with the root partition.
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2621 [17:12:13] <queso> Is there a rough statistic somewhere to see how many installations there are of jessie, wheezy, testing, and sid?
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2624 [17:14:28] <SynrG> queso: replaced-url
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2627 [17:14:48] <SynrG> it won't give you absolute numbers. just relative proportions
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2630 [17:15:04] <SynrG> because only a percentage of people use popcon. so you need to extrapolate
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2637 [17:16:33] <radw62> hello, the option status=progress on dd not work
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2640 [17:16:55] <radw62> shows "invalid option"
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2643 [17:18:13] <radw62> even man dd lists "status"
2644 [17:18:13] <SynrG> status=WHICH
2645 [17:18:13] <SynrG> WHICH info to suppress outputting to stderr; 'noxfer' suppresses transfer stats, 'none' suppresses all
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2647 [17:18:25] <SynrG> it doesn't say anything about "progress" though
2648 [17:19:09] <radw62> SynrG: so, how can I monitor the progress??, because pv dont work either...
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2653 [17:20:05] <radw62> or i have to input dd if=/dev/sdb |pv|dd of=/dev/sdc on root
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2657 [17:21:14] <radw62> yes, in root worked, but you know, is not the prefered method...
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2662 [17:22:46] <SynrG> are you sure it's even copying when it's not root?
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2670 [17:24:04] <radw62> SynrG: i mean, in sudo, cpoy, but you cant know the progress
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2672 [17:24:16] <radw62> *you can copy
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2679 [17:25:46] <queso> SynrG: Thanks
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2696 [17:33:46] <no_gravity> Hello! When screen in a terminal is frozen - what are the keys to try? I tried CTRL-q and nothing happens.
2697 [17:34:44] <no_gravity> Ha, it started working again!
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2700 [17:35:04] <fred1807> how do I get a newer version of e2fsck on jessie?
2701 [17:35:28] <colo-work> fred1807, install e2fsprogs from backports
2702 [17:35:30] <colo-work> ,v e2fsprogs
2703 [17:35:31] <judd> Package: e2fsprogs on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 1.42.5-1.1+deb7u1; wheezy: 1.42.5-1.1+deb7u1; jessie: 1.42.12-1.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.42.12-2; jessie-backports: 1.43-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.43.1-1; sid: 1.43.1-1
2704 [17:36:05] <fred1807> colo-work: ok, so how do I do this , can you point me a way, I ll do the rest
2705 [17:36:30] <colo-work> fred1807, it's detailed on replaced-url
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2707 [17:36:42] <fred1807> thankU
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2725 [17:42:00] <fred1807> colo-work: added backports to souces, after apt-get update e2fsprogs wont update to a newer version, what am I missing?
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2727 [17:42:35] <colo-work> the document tells you, fred1807. # apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"
2728 [17:42:51] <colo-work> you have to opt-in to backports on a per-package basis
2729 [17:43:01] <fred1807> yes, done, thankU
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2734 [17:45:00] <temuccio> Hello All
2735 [17:45:08] <temuccio> I have one question from my old notebook
2736 [17:45:21] <appas> ask away
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2739 [17:45:56] <temuccio> until yesterday I use my old notebook with debian jessie installed without X
2740 [17:46:08] <temuccio> because I use it for home server
2741 [17:46:35] <SynrG> radw62: did you sudo both ends of the dd? that's why i asked if you knew if it were copying at all ...
2742 [17:46:43] <temuccio> now I have sobstiture the notebook with raspberry pi 3 and I would like to install X
2743 [17:46:59] <temuccio> I have try lxde
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2745 [17:47:49] <temuccio> but doesn't work....after startlxde I see only gray and white horizontal row and the debian freeze
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2747 [17:48:15] <temuccio> With CTRL+ALT+Fx I can't have access to shell
2748 [17:48:22] <temuccio> do you can help me
2749 [17:48:27] <temuccio> do you can help me?
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2751 [17:49:57] <temuccio> On xorg.log doesn't have any error
2752 [17:50:15] <temuccio> but the last line is LoadModule: "glx"
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2755 [17:50:36] <temuccio> and Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
2756 [17:51:03] <temuccio> I have make a /etc/X11/xorg.conf with glx commented, but doesn't work
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2802 [18:09:21] <okdamn> Do you know of any dedicated server with pre-installed routines like: securing, ngnix etc ?
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2839 [18:25:28] <Overand> Is there a 'sane' way for me to make a Debian install on a USB device that will actually live in a *file* (loop device?) on said USB device, which is formatted FAT32 - and booted via syslinux?
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2842 [18:26:02] <Overand> I'm making a banannas USB multiboot, which so far has a few LiveCDs *plus* a Windows 10 installer - terrifying, I know.
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2847 [18:27:05] <Overand> I figure I can make a 'liveUSB' environment with data persistence, which is nice (and may be an option as well), but rather than having that whole 'here's a file with a bunch of diff-ish data from your original .iso image,' if I want to keep this thing up-to-date, I'd rather it more closely resemble a standard install, albeit with this weird loop device
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2849 [18:27:31] <apathor> good afternoon. after modifying /etc/network/interfaces.d/ configs is ifdown then ifup the correct means of reloading?
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2851 [18:27:40] <Overand> (I may just end up repartitioning this thing and doing a standard install on EXT4 or whatever)
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2929 [18:55:14] <stoned> apathor: sure
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2967 [19:05:51] <therealfibonacci> hello. anyone had luck with respond cms installation ?
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2988 [19:15:29] <Antithesis_> hello
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2991 [19:16:37] <Antithesis_> Been trying to install debian last night and this morning, anyone know why the installation might not be able to find the flash drive after partitioning the drive I want to install on?
2992 [19:16:41] <Antithesis_> very frustrating
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3000 [19:18:02] <Antithesis_> I forgot the exact message but it asks me to insert the flash drive and hit enter, but nothing happens... even after reinsertion. Tried making a new flash drive and everything
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3005 [19:19:06] <zykotick9> "message... insert the flash drive..." <- what?!?!
3006 [19:19:52] <Antithesis_> exactly my reaction
3007 [19:20:13] <zykotick9> Antithesis_: are you removing the install media during this process?
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3010 [19:20:23] <Antithesis_> after partitioning the drives it says can't find installation media insert the drive
3011 [19:20:29] <Antithesis_> something along those lines
3012 [19:20:35] <Antithesis_> no
3013 [19:20:44] <zykotick9> Antithesis_: did you use unetbootin to create the install media?
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3015 [19:20:51] <Antithesis_> rufus
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3017 [19:20:59] <missmbob> !rufus
3018 [19:20:59] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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3020 [19:21:01] <zykotick9> ahhh, same crap different day. best of luck.
3021 [19:21:02] <missmbob> dont do that
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3023 [19:21:17] <missmbob> if on windows use win32diskimager
3024 [19:21:20] <missmbob> !win32diskimager
3025 [19:21:20] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
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3028 [19:22:08] <Antithesis_> I've used rufus before for arch and stuff like that. I've had problems with unetbootin before but ill give it a shot
3029 [19:22:21] <missmbob> doesnt matter. debian's hybrid breaks with it
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3037 [19:23:59] <Antithesis_> man if the works... can't believe wasted a few hours tryingo finnegle this
3038 [19:24:15] <missmbob> Antithesis_: you're not using the testing installer, right? you're using stable?
3039 [19:24:22] <Antithesis_> yeah
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3044 [19:25:25] <SynrG> Antithesis_: once upon a time, there were no hybrid images. then there came a proliferation of tools to tear them apart and put them back together again into bootable USBs. this worked, some of the time. unfortunately, it mangled debian images. and in any case, a hybrid image doesn't need to be torn apart and put together again to make bootable.
3045 [19:25:25] <Antithesis_> idk if it matters anymore but does usb 3 mess with stuff?
3046 [19:25:45] <missmbob> no
3047 [19:25:47] <SynrG> so it's a case of the tool you chose doing "too much" to the image
3048 [19:26:00] <SynrG> when all that was really needed was a byte-by-byte exact copy of the image to the USB
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3050 [19:26:07] <Antithesis_> I see
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3052 [19:26:33] <SynrG> i am told that rufus has some option to do an exact copy like that ...
3053 [19:26:39] <SynrG> i can't vouch for it, though
3054 [19:26:42] <SynrG> never used it
3055 [19:26:52] <Antithesis_> I just assumed rufus knew what it was doing haha, used it for pretty much every distro Ive tried
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3058 [19:27:09] <SynrG> it is simplistic in its assumptions
3059 [19:27:18] <stoned> It does.
3060 [19:27:38] <stoned> There is a dd copy mode and a unpack ISO mode, format as fat32, then copy the files and then the bootlaoder.
3061 [19:27:51] <stoned> Don't use the ISO mode. Use the dd mode
3062 [19:28:16] <stoned> WTF ever do they have to unpack the thing and ... just... convoluted nonsense.
3063 [19:28:23] <SynrG> Antithesis_: apparently this is the secret sauce for rufus ^
3064 [19:28:40] <stoned> Well, it's not Rufus that has the problem.
3065 [19:28:48] <stoned> The problem lies in ignornace of how the tool works.
3066 [19:29:14] <SynrG> well. if rufus aspires to be a universal tool, it should be more intelligent selecting the mode of operation :p
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3068 [19:29:26] <SynrG> 9 times out of 10 the user will get it wrong
3069 [19:29:30] <stoned> I agree, but intelligence is... overrated :)
3070 [19:29:37] <stoned> Oh absolutely.
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3073 [19:30:04] <SynrG> Antithesis_: if you like rufus and care about the issue, maybe file a bug against it with this suggestion? :)
3074 [19:30:06] <stoned> I use whatever, Rufus, win32diskimages, whatever. I don't care. But users... Rufus does tend to fuck up a lot more often than note
3075 [19:30:07] <stoned> not*
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3077 [19:30:14] <SynrG> Antithesis_: let them know how much pain not having this feature caused you
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3080 [19:30:41] <stoned> There is dd for windows too, btw
3081 [19:30:44] <stoned> !gnu32
3082 [19:30:50] <stoned> hm. I thought i made one years ago.
3083 [19:30:50] <missmbob> well the install guide does tell you to use win32diskimager...he just didn't read the instructions :P
3084 [19:31:03] <Antithesis_> I dont really understand, rufus wont let me select the .iso file for a dd image
3085 [19:31:03] <SynrG> dd for windows, but which version? nah. every version i ever tried of that had issues
3086 [19:31:09] <SynrG> on one platform or another
3087 [19:31:16] <stoned> replaced-url
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3089 [19:31:24] <SynrG> Antithesis_: try 'all files' in the file dialog filter?
3090 [19:31:28] <stoned> It work son \\PhysicalDisk1\etc etc. windows univeral paths
3091 [19:31:33] <SynrG> Antithesis_: it's probably stupid about the extensions it likes
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3093 [19:31:40] <stoned> so you can dd iso to a stick using gnu32 coreutil
3094 [19:31:45] <stoned> if you feel comfortable with that
3095 [19:31:47] <SynrG> Antithesis_: if it won't let you do that, rename the image file to something it likes.
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3098 [19:32:01] <stoned> !gnu32 is replaced-url
3099 [19:32:02] <dpkg> okay, stoned
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3101 [19:32:11] <SynrG> (i say this never having seen rufus before ... i'm assuming some sort of standard file open dialog though)
3102 [19:32:32] <Antithesis_> I had to restart the program... whoops
3103 [19:32:48] <stoned> just use win32diskimages. Rufus isn't supported here no matter the craziness of its' mods
3104 [19:32:50] <stoned> modes*
3105 [19:32:52] <stoned> imager*
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3108 [19:33:54] <stoned> And follow the install guide. You'll be fine.
3109 [19:34:00] <SynrG> stoned: crazy-ass filepaths with no realtion to usual addressing of drives on Windows is not exactly user friendly :)
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3111 [19:34:14] <SynrG> like i said, every dd version i ever saw had its issues
3112 [19:34:21] <SynrG> (on windows)
3113 [19:34:21] <stoned> *nod*
3114 [19:34:39] <stoned> This does too. I forgot exactly what. I ran into some hiccups myself circa 2009
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3119 [19:37:12] <Antithesis_> I just wish this new laptop I bought came already set up perfectly for working :/ was so motivated last night -- bam all of a sudden can't get anything to work
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3121 [19:37:49] <missmbob> Antithesis_: you should've said it was a laptop :P you should use the firmware iso for that
3122 [19:37:58] <SynrG> Antithesis_: just think how good it will feel once the punishment ends
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3124 [19:38:26] <missmbob> Antithesis_: replaced-url
3125 [19:38:42] <SynrG> ah, that too
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3128 [19:38:52] <stoned> preseed your shiznat.
3129 [19:39:12] <stoned> Then deploy debian installs in a breeze anywhere, your configs your setup, no matter what machine
3130 [19:39:15] <SynrG> stoned: and *that* is less punishment? :)
3131 [19:39:22] <stoned> You know, you gotta get those things prepared
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3133 [19:39:27] <stoned> Setup one, use forever.
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3135 [19:39:39] <stoned> SynrG: sure, after a while you learn to make things easy for yourself.
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3137 [19:40:06] <SynrG> if you do it enough times ... and each time resembles the last time closely enough ... and assuming everything doesn't change out from under you in the interim :)
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3139 [19:40:31] <stoned> It's not always a one shot solution, but it gets most of the tedious work out of the way
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3141 [19:41:43] <Antithesis_> Installing arch was the biggest mistake of my life
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3143 [19:41:51] <Antithesis_> that shit took eons
3144 [19:42:11] <Antithesis_> the guide is so terse and if anything goes wrong you just have to figure it out
3145 [19:42:14] <stoned> I can get a new debian system up in less than 20 minutes from scratch
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3148 [19:42:35] <stoned> full desktop or server even, unles sI have to redo the configs or can't copy over stuff.
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3151 [19:42:54] <stoned> Debian is ... Well I tried everything since 1994
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3153 [19:43:18] <stoned> Some guy form CyberArmy gave me a copy of debian in 2001ish
3154 [19:43:31] <stoned> I tried the Ubuntu, the Fedoras and all of the pop ones.
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3156 [19:43:41] <stoned> I always use debian b/c I can't use anything else. Words escape me atm.
3157 [19:43:46] <stoned> But just.. debian++
3158 [19:43:57] <Antithesis_> I used windows for the past couple years because of gaming, but I dont really game anymore so I've full switched on all my computer except this one
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3163 [19:45:12] <Antithesis_> I think gnome 3 is very good looking so idk why I havent given it a shot sooner
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3165 [19:45:47] <stoned> You want to use what the senses fine pleasing?
3166 [19:45:51] <stoned> Or what is most useful?
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3169 [19:46:03] <stoned> Gnome.. isn't useful. I'm very opinionated.
3170 [19:46:24] <stoned> You see screenshots of gnome3, you visual sense collects that data from the outsdie world
3171 [19:46:25] <Antithesis_> I spent a bunch of time setting up gnome3 though in ubuntu, then spent all my time in a fullscreen vim lol
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3173 [19:46:34] <stoned> The image is forme din your mind, you see yourself using ti and setting it up
3174 [19:46:38] <stoned> Desire is born at this moment.
3175 [19:46:42] <stoned> Be aware of your cognition.
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3177 [19:46:47] <stoned> Use what works best.
3178 [19:46:59] <stoned> don't be a slave to the enterprise of desire and a serf to the senses.
3179 [19:47:02] <stoned> *afk*
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3183 [19:48:04] <Antithesis_> True, didn't realize would get such a trascendental response
3184 [19:48:13] <zykotick9> hehe
3185 [19:48:36] <Antithesis_> I have always liked design and that sort of thing so its just kinda fun for me to set that stuff up even though I don't really use it
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3187 [19:48:51] <stoned> I use Xmonad
3188 [19:48:54] <stoned> simple, easy peasy
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3191 [19:49:34] <Antithesis_> I'll give it a try
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3194 [19:50:11] <SynrG> Antithesis_: that's just stoned :)
3195 [19:50:23] <SynrG> (the transcendental response)
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3197 [19:50:49] <SynrG> Antithesis_: i tried gnome 3 for a while, customized it a bit, found it mostly usable
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3200 [19:51:09] <SynrG> Antithesis_: i think it's a not too bad effort at trying to make things simpler. however, simpler is not always better.
3201 [19:51:18] <stoned> replaced-url
3202 [19:51:20] <stoned> :)
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3204 [19:51:40] <stoned> Antithesis_: you might like my transcendental blog! :) same domain.
3205 [19:51:44] <SynrG> Antithesis_: i think a lot of the frustration (or outrage) against gnome 3 has been from seasoned linux desktop users who suddenly found their hands tied when trying to make the desktop do their bidding
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3207 [19:51:57] <SynrG> particularly in the earlier versions of gnome 3
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3210 [19:52:13] <Antithesis_> my favorite book is walden. am I qualified to read your blog : D
3211 [19:52:15] <stoned> My problem lies w/ the core GTK2 dialog designs
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3213 [19:52:26] <stoned> File open/save and various other dialogs are terrible.
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3215 [19:52:41] <stoned> KDE is ... more uhm... better in XUI
3216 [19:52:46] <stoned> UI*
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3218 [19:53:21] <stoned> The shape, placement of widgets, controls, etc. etc.
3219 [19:53:28] <stoned> GTK feels awkward at best.
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3221 [19:53:54] <stoned> Antithesis_: sure.
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3223 [19:53:57] <stoned> Antithesis_: ever heard of Emerson?
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3225 [19:54:10] <Antithesis_> Yeah, Self-Reliance my man
3226 [19:54:14] <stoned> If you can read and understand Emerson, you can definitely get me.
3227 [19:54:28] <stoned> To believe your own thought, to beleive what is true for you in your own private heart is true for all men...
3228 [19:54:30] <stoned> That is genius.
3229 [19:54:30] <Antithesis_> I'd rather never read a book, then become a satellite
3230 [19:54:31] <stoned> :)
3231 [19:54:35] <SynrG> #debian-offtopic *cough*
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3238 [19:55:18] <Antithesis_> Leaves of Grass is also my favorite book haha
3239 [19:55:32] <Antithesis_> Emerson inspired lot of cool genius
3240 [19:55:33] <stoned> Come to ##stoned and we chat.
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3283 [20:10:47] <JyZyXEL> how do i invoke a target from a debian/rules file?
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3286 [20:11:09] <dondelelcaro> JyZyXEL: fakeroot debian/rules target
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3292 [20:12:27] <JyZyXEL> dondelelcaro: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 178: debin/rules: No such file or directory
3293 [20:12:33] <JyZyXEL> i guess it needs to be run without the fakeroot?
3294 [20:12:42] <dondelelcaro> JyZyXEL: it needs to be run without a typo
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3299 [20:14:20] <JyZyXEL> FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'kernel-wedge'
3300 [20:14:22] <JyZyXEL> debian/rules:108: recipe for target 'debian/control-real' failed
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3302 [20:14:24] <JyZyXEL> psh :(
3303 [20:14:45] <JyZyXEL> gencontrol.py was supposed to generate the control file for me
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3305 [20:14:47] <Comons> Hello, you nice server irc quakenet org | #philosophy - #apple | web: replaced-url
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3310 [20:15:59] <JyZyXEL> ok, apparently i need apt install kernel-wedge :p
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3323 [20:18:38] <unborn> stoned: can I pm you? :)
3324 [20:18:45] <unborn> evening everyone
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3329 [20:21:15] <unborn> comons - what you on about? are you insane?
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3350 [20:29:14] <jebba> ahh it's a wonderful day
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3371 [20:36:50] <m1dnight_> Hey guys, just switched to Debian. I have to install the firmware for my audiocard, I think.
3372 [20:36:59] <m1dnight_> I have found the proper page that lists the firmware I need: replaced-url
3373 [20:37:07] <m1dnight_> I have also put the files on an usb drive, but I don't know how to install them.
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3375 [20:37:45] <nkuttler> m1dnight_: just install the package
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3377 [20:38:00] <nkuttler> you might have to reboot i guess, or reload the proper modules..
3378 [20:38:01] <missmbob> dpkg -i foo.deb if you already have it downloaded
3379 [20:38:02] * dpkg removes a speen from missmbob and replaces it with foo.deb if you already have it downloaded
3380 [20:38:15] <m1dnight_> But I can't find the .deb file. All I find are .tar.gz files?
3381 [20:38:17] <nkuttler> m1dnight_: just apt-get install firmware-realtek
3382 [20:38:28] <m1dnight_> That's not in there, yet. I might be missing ome sources.
3383 [20:38:33] <missmbob> you have to have non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list
3384 [20:38:39] <m1dnight_> Ah, I clicked the download on the left of the page.At the bottom is the proper link.
3385 [20:38:41] <nkuttler> !tell m1dnight_ about sources.list
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3388 [20:39:05] <nkuttler> m1dnight_: firmware-realtek only seems to have network drivers though
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3393 [20:40:18] <m1dnight_> Aha! I have solved it,I think >D
3394 [20:40:33] <m1dnight_> Ah, then it must be the network card. I thought realtek = audio.
3395 [20:40:38] <m1dnight_> Power of habit I guess.
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3399 [20:40:52] <m1dnight_> thanks for the prompt response guys. Appreciate it.
3400 [20:40:53] <nkuttler> m1dnight_: lsmod | grep snd ?
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3402 [20:42:49] <unborn> m1dnight_: yeah you missing something... it calls a brain :) replaced-url
3403 [20:43:05] <m1dnight_> Oh, you are such a nice person.
3404 [20:43:17] <stoned> unborn: sure.
3405 [20:43:23] <unborn> :)
3406 [20:43:28] <stoned> I'll reply whenver I do, but you may.
3407 [20:43:57] * unborn nods stoned
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3452 [20:50:53] <gajus> replaced-url
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3454 [20:51:02] <gajus> can anyone explain why new date is not being picked up?
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3458 [20:51:16] <gajus> this is running in a docker container, just in case
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3578 [20:56:42] <thurstylark> On Wheezy, I got a bell when shutting down, but I'm not getting that on Jessie. Is there a way to enable that again?
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3633 [21:05:21] <afx_> Hello ! Whenever I run a gui program from terminal I get this message : Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" . I am running jessie x64
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3636 [21:05:42] <afx_> found this replaced-url
3637 [21:06:01] <Lionyx> hello guys, I'm having some trouble with a samsung chromebook... all I wanna do is " dd if=${MNT}/boot/vmlinuz.signed of=/dev/mmcblk0p6 bs=4M" I get the error "dd: error writing ‘/dev/mmcblk0p6’: No space left on device"
3638 [21:06:26] <Lionyx> May anybody help-me with this?
3639 [21:07:24] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx: you can't write something to a device node
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3642 [21:07:36] <v4rp1ng> you have to mount the device first
3643 [21:07:44] <v4rp1ng> no wrong
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3649 [21:09:14] <v4rp1ng> what does fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0p6 say?
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3659 [21:10:13] <th0r> Lionyx, are you trying to upgrade the kernel on a pi?
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3661 [21:10:22] <saml> where do you put Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories configuration?
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3664 [21:11:00] <Lionyx_> Hi sorry, i've got disconnected
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3669 [21:11:15] <Lionyx_> why can't I write to this /dev ?
3670 [21:11:18] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: what does fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0p6 say?
3671 [21:11:18] <th0r> Lionyx, are you trying to upgrade the kernel on a pi?
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3676 [21:12:09] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: why can't I write to this /dev ? <---- forget that I was thinking about something else
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3678 [21:12:27] <Lionyx_> v4rp1ng: replaced-url
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3680 [21:13:06] <Lionyx_> th0r: i'm trying to get a 3rd kernel added to a samsung chromebook
3681 [21:13:22] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: are you sure that is the right dev?
3682 [21:13:33] <v4rp1ng> try lsblk
3683 [21:13:53] <v4rp1ng> paste output
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3687 [21:14:27] <Lionyx_> v4rp1ng: replaced-url
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3689 [21:14:39] <th0r> Lionyx_, well, my experience goes back to compiling my own kernels. You don't 'dd' vmlinuz you just copy it over, but actually I think vmlinuz is a link to one of the kernels available.
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3692 [21:16:20] <Lionyx_> why is it write protected or full?
3693 [21:16:24] <sbeex> hello guys. I have an iptables problem. I installed jenkins on my debian 8 (port 81) everything worked fine. Installed docker both worked fine. reboot -> only docker still works. Jenkins port is not opened... (I have red docker rewrite it's own iptables rules) do you have a good and clean solution to allow incomming connection to port 81 ?
3694 [21:16:29] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: you will not get the kernel to this device. it's just 512B in size
3695 [21:16:33] <th0r> Lionyx_, but it has been ages since I messed with all that. Now I run pi for everything so don't have the 'luxury' of playing like that <smile>
3696 [21:17:43] <Lionyx_> this tutorial asks to copy the highest priority kernel, then ad some stuff, create vmlinuz and then dd into this partition
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3700 [21:19:06] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: seems to be the wrong dev. thats what I can say from this point
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3708 [21:21:46] <Lionyx_> the tutorial says it's right
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3710 [21:21:53] <Lionyx_> it's the place where KERNEL3 is
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3712 [21:22:07] <Lionyx_> cgpt show /dev/mmcblk0 <--- shows that
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3718 [21:23:26] <v4rp1ng> Lionyx_: yeah, but mmcblk0p6 is only 512B in size
3719 [21:23:59] <Lionyx_> can I risk to copy it to other dev?
3720 [21:24:08] <v4rp1ng> what does a search engine say about "chromebook mmcblk0p6 only 512B"
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3727 [21:26:28] <Lionyx_> aparently nothing usefull
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3729 [21:26:46] <v4rp1ng> seems like
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3746 [21:34:54] <jfcaron> I would suggest putting more prominent and concise instructions for newbies on how to install a basic Debian desktop system using a netinstall USB stick, with instructions on creating said stick from various popular operating systems.
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3748 [21:35:59] <ioudas> Anyone know a decent vpn server for debian that isnt open vpn?
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3756 [21:37:25] <pablo_> hi guys
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3767 [21:42:19] <pablo_> in a deb package repository, doesn anybody knows how to rebuild the packages db?
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3771 [21:43:08] <fernie> ioudas: ocserv, but its only in testing and unstable
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3779 [21:44:48] <lenswipe> hey folks
3780 [21:45:02] <lenswipe> my debian box is unhappy because (I think) a partition is full
3781 [21:45:08] <lenswipe> (I think its /tmp)
3782 [21:45:28] <lenswipe> how do I: 1. Resize it to be a bit bigger and 2. Double check that it is /tmp
3783 [21:45:39] <lenswipe> ....it might be /boot - I don't recall
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3798 [21:52:32] <AimHere> lenswipe, 'df' should tell you which partitions are full
3799 [21:52:43] <lenswipe> AimHere, thanks
3800 [21:53:01] <lenswipe> currently battling with winshit's telementry using up 95% of my laptop disk IO
3801 [21:53:03] <lenswipe> >: {
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3811 [21:55:45] <BL4DE> hello
3812 [21:56:21] <BL4DE> I was wondering is there any advantage of using wayland instead of xorg in a libvirt QEMU virtual machine?
3813 [21:56:47] <lenswipe> AimHere, okay, so i just ran df
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3816 [21:57:22] <lenswipe> AimHere, i got this: replaced-url
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3826 [21:58:37] <AimHere> I get a 404
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3828 [21:59:06] <lenswipe> yeah, i just noticed i wasnt signed in so i deleted the gist so i could repost it from my account
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3830 [21:59:22] <lenswipe> unfortunately my internet is being a laggy piece of shit right now so thats taking a while
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3833 [21:59:40] <lenswipe> AimHere, replaced-url
3834 [21:59:42] <lenswipe> there we go
3835 [22:00:12] <AimHere> Well it's clear that your '/' partition is full
3836 [22:00:35] <lenswipe> clearly
3837 [22:00:41] <lenswipe> the question is - how do i expand it
3838 [22:00:57] <lenswipe> this has been an issue for a long time - i just dont know how to fix it
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3841 [22:01:04] <AimHere> There's the 'du' command for finding out where stuff is
3842 [22:01:11] <lenswipe> my / partition isn't filling the whole disk - my system disk is a 500GB SSD
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3844 [22:01:18] <Thasan> Greetings. I have debian box with console only. What I need atleast so I can run run some gui programs over XMing. if I try install kdiff3 it wants to install vlc and many other programs what I dont want/need
3845 [22:01:18] <AimHere> You need options applied to it though
3846 [22:01:20] <lenswipe> (Samsung Evo 850 if you're interested)
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3848 [22:01:43] <lenswipe> well what im trying to do is expand the / partition to fill some more of the empty disk space
3849 [22:01:46] <stoned> lenswipe: what's the output of df -h /
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3853 [22:02:16] <lenswipe> /dev/sdc1 9.1G 8.6G 0 100% /
3854 [22:02:30] <stoned> Why did you make only 10 gb /
3855 [22:02:45] <lenswipe> stoned, because i was lazy and didn't bother to change the defaults when i setup debian :p
3856 [22:03:02] <lenswipe> my system disk is 500GB so there's room to grow into
3857 [22:03:05] <lenswipe> i just dont know ho
3858 [22:03:06] <lenswipe> how*
3859 [22:03:11] <AimHere> 10 gigs should work for most Debian installs
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3861 [22:03:31] <lenswipe> AimHere, i do a lot of node stuff which eats away at the system stuff
3862 [22:03:33] <AimHere> Outwith the /home directory
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3864 [22:03:47] <lenswipe> yh
3865 [22:03:50] <lenswipe> /home is on a RAID1 array anyway
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3874 [22:05:05] <nicknight> Hi I am not able to install skype
3875 [22:05:11] <nicknight> can some one help ?
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3877 [22:05:28] <lenswipe> not without more information, nicknight
3878 [22:05:48] <nicknight> lenswipe: tell me how can I install ?
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3880 [22:06:00] <lenswipe> nicknight, why are you not able to install skype
3881 [22:06:05] <nicknight> i did dpkg -i and .db file
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3883 [22:06:12] <lenswipe> and?
3884 [22:06:18] <nicknight> then install -f
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3886 [22:06:26] <nicknight> for missing files
3887 [22:06:35] <nicknight> I added i386 architecture
3888 [22:06:35] <lenswipe> yes, so what's the issue?
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3890 [22:06:48] <nicknight> it still throw some errors
3891 [22:06:55] <lenswipe> can you provide some of them?
3892 [22:07:00] <lenswipe> preferrably all of them
3893 [22:07:00] <nicknight> when I open skype it says directory doesnt exists
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3896 [22:07:19] <lenswipe> what says that? which directory?
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3898 [22:07:32] <nicknight> lenswipe: can't I get mirrir where I can install by apt ?
3899 [22:07:45] <lenswipe> assume I'm stupid (I probably am)
3900 [22:07:50] <lenswipe> walk me through what happens when you click the skype icon
3901 [22:07:54] <stoned> lenswipe: so you have 10gb / on a 500gb ssd, and /home is on some other RAID array. So other than the 10gb partition, rest is unpartitioned free space on 500gb ssd?
3902 [22:08:06] <lenswipe> stoned, correct
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3904 [22:08:07] <stoned> lenswipe: what is the file system?
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3907 [22:08:22] <lenswipe> stoned, i believe it's ext4 - is there a way to check?
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3910 [22:08:50] <stoned> lenswipe: man file
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3913 [22:09:03] <stoned> lenswipe: file -s /dev/sdXX
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3916 [22:09:40] <stoned> lenswipe: and if so, man resize2fs
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3919 [22:10:37] <stoned> lenswipe: since it's root, you might have to do it through debian live
3920 [22:10:38] <lenswipe> yep
3921 [22:10:38] <lenswipe> ext4
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3924 [22:10:47] <lenswipe> ya - im thinking that
3925 [22:10:56] <lenswipe> to be honest, i shouldve done this ages ago
3926 [22:10:58] <lenswipe> but ive been too fucking lazy
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3928 [22:11:14] <lenswipe> now my GUI won't even start(presumably the logs are full) so that's kinda forced my hand
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3930 [22:12:16] <stoned> lenswipe: also, when you resize the partition in fdisk, make sure to use the same starting offset etc.
3931 [22:12:34] <stoned> Google around for how to resize an ext4 partition without losing data.
3932 [22:12:37] <lenswipe> is there a GUI i can use to do this?
3933 [22:12:43] <stoned> *facepalm*
3934 [22:12:49] <lenswipe> ...
3935 [22:12:50] <stoned> I don't know gooey stuff!
3936 [22:12:54] <stoned> gooey things are gooey.
3937 [22:12:56] <lenswipe> i was wondering if it was doable with gparted
3938 [22:13:01] <nicknight> replaced-url
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3940 [22:13:06] <lenswipe> less likely to fuck things up that way
3941 [22:13:10] <nicknight> I get this error
3942 [22:13:12] <lenswipe> if not, ill do it via CLA
3943 [22:13:14] <lenswipe> CLI*
3944 [22:13:17] <stoned> lenswipe: I dunno.
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3946 [22:13:28] <stoned> I guess gparted might do it
3947 [22:13:32] <stoned> Check out its features
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3951 [22:13:58] <lenswipe> i realise that doing everything via command line is more hardcore and cooler (and i generally do prefer to do things that way) but there's nothing "cool" about a fucked filesystem
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3953 [22:14:26] <lenswipe> nicknight, looks like you're missing some dependencies
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3955 [22:14:31] <lenswipe> where did you get skype from?
3956 [22:14:40] <lenswipe> and have you tried apt-get installing those things?
3957 [22:14:43] <nicknight> lenswipe: official skype web page
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3959 [22:14:53] <lenswipe> ^
3960 [22:14:54] <nicknight> can I do install -f ?
3961 [22:14:55] <duelle> Is there a reason why debian mirrors do not use HTTPS?
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3963 [22:15:27] <BL4DE> lenswipe: I dont trust gui software to be ran as root. learned my lesson never again will run package manager or anything else gui as root
3964 [22:15:32] <lenswipe> nicknight, no idea - I'm kinda just guessing here but if I were in your position, I'd start by apt-get installing those deps and see if the errors start going down
3965 [22:15:45] <lenswipe> BL4DE, if it's a live CD it hardly matters though
3966 [22:15:51] <BL4DE> then yeah
3967 [22:15:55] <BL4DE> in that case
3968 [22:15:56] <nicknight> lenswipe: ok
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3970 [22:16:07] <lenswipe> which, since I'm resizing my boot partition - it's going to be
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3978 [22:21:00] <nicknight> hi any mirrir for skype?
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3980 [22:21:10] <nicknight> some one help skype neededfor me
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3982 [22:22:34] <lenswipe> nicknight,
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3985 [22:22:42] <lenswipe> didd that not help?
3986 [22:22:51] <nicknight> no
3987 [22:22:55] <lenswipe> also - is there a reason you didnt just apt-get install skype?
3988 [22:23:26] <nicknight> to doapt-get it should be listed on mirror right?
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3990 [22:23:32] <lenswipe> right
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4007 [22:26:42] <sbeex> Good evening. I have an error with debian repositories : replaced-url
4008 [22:26:48] <sbeex> "unable to fetch" 403
4009 [22:26:58] <sbeex> I don't understand why.. it works on my local machine
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4023 [22:30:56] <nicknight> i feel debian sucs
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4029 [22:32:48] <lenswipe> nicknight, "I don't know how to use $thing. Therefore $thing sucks"
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4031 [22:32:56] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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4033 [22:33:47] <tobiasBora> I would like to start a script when the computer suspend, but I would like the script to be run "locally", I do not want to put it in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/
4034 [22:33:53] <tobiasBora> Is there any solution for that ?
4035 [22:34:09] <nicknight> lenswipe: yes because even the creater of $ dont know how to solve $
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4037 [22:34:14] <nicknight> thats why
4038 [22:34:43] <lenswipe> nicknight, im not the creator of debian
4039 [22:34:53] <lenswipe> neither are most of the people in here
4040 [22:35:06] <lenswipe> if you want someone to go and bitch at when things don't work - go and buy a mac
4041 [22:35:13] <nicknight> nor refering you
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4043 [22:35:30] <nicknight> not refering you
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4047 [22:36:17] <thurstylark> On Wheezy, I got a bell when shutting down, but I'm not getting that on Jessie. Is there a way to enable that again?
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4076 [22:49:19] <galex|713> Do someone know if it’s possible with any web engine to use another language than javascript to play with the dom?
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4110 [23:00:34] <DeaDSouL> hi, after updating /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname .. how can I restart the network interface to let it reconnect again? from ssh remote session?
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4114 [23:02:12] <greycat> Neither of those files has anything to do with your network interfaces. Those are defined in /etc/network/interfaces instead.
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4116 [23:03:10] <DeaDSouL> greycat: thanks... but just to know it, how can I make the server disconnect and reconnect from ssh-remote session?
4117 [23:03:11] <greycat> If you have modified /etc/network/interfaces and want to cycle an interface that you're ssh'ed in on, you might survive if you do something like: sh -c 'ifdown eth0; sleep 1; ifup eth0' &
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4119 [23:03:44] <greycat> But if you can cycle eth0 from ANY OTHER direction (e.g. console, or an ssh connection over eth1) then do so.
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4121 [23:04:14] <DeaDSouL> greycat: what about wireless connections?
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4123 [23:04:24] <greycat> When in doubt make sure you have a means of repairing the situation if it goes pear-shaped and you lose your ability to reconnect via ssh.
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4138 [23:10:53] <DeaDSouL> I can access my home server via 'deb.local' how can I modify it, so that it's accessible name is 'deb.hom' ?
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4172 [23:25:17] <thurstylark> I can't get the beep utility to work. I don't hear anything from my machine when I run it over ssh, or a local tty. lsmod shows pcspkr is loaded, and the beep device in alsa is unmuted and turned all the way up. Is there something I'm missing?
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4217 [23:44:41] <thurstylark> Hmm. doesn't even work if I echo \a to the terminal...
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