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39 [00:22:48] <Strykar> how do I get judd to show me the instructions for backporting a package from source?
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43 [00:23:48] <jelly> Strykar: you ask dpkg, not judd. /msg dpkg ssb, or /msg dpkg simple sid backport
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46 [00:24:10] <jelly> Strykar: you can _check_ viability with /msg judd checkbackport ...
47 [00:24:17] <crash_> Strykar: replaced-url
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50 [00:25:09] <Strykar> but judd had clearer instructions than replaced-url
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54 [00:26:09] <winsen> any clue guys?
55 [00:26:11] <crash_> Strykar: you wanted to know how to backport a package from soure? and i gave you a link.
56 [00:26:16] <dondelelcaro> dpkg: ssb
57 [00:26:16] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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61 [00:27:17] <Strykar> dondelelcaro, sweet thanks. how do you make it check for the build/dependency status of the package on sid/unstable? package name: strongswan
62 [00:27:22] <jim> is there still a way to see if a package can be backported?
63 [00:27:50] <dondelelcaro> judd: checkbackport strongswan
64 [00:27:51] <judd> Backporting package strongswan in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
65 [00:27:55] <dondelelcaro> Strykar: ^^^
66 [00:27:58] <Strykar> woot! perfect!
67 [00:28:13] <dondelelcaro> (all of which jelly already mentioned in scrollback)
68 [00:28:13] <jim> thanks
69 [00:28:14] <jelly> winsen: I don't see your question at all
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76 [00:35:27] <jim> there;s a package llvm in both jessie and sid, and I wanted to get the sid version in jessie, the build deps are fine, it takes like 4 hours to build on a fairly reasonable 64b machine, but it fails one of its regrassion tests, so the build throws an error, and binary runs the regression tests again, which error, so it doesn't build debs... I have a log somewhere of the regression test run, which might tell you what to fix
77 [00:35:35] <jim> do you want it?
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82 [00:38:07] <jim> Nastii, if you're really running as root, just be careful, if you're a shell beginner, you should reconsider
83 [00:38:29] <jelly> jim: well, people in this channel are as likely to fix a random test unit failing as yourself I guess
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85 [00:39:29] <jim> jelly, I wouldn't know where it is or why it's failing (I did read the log)
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87 [00:39:47] <jelly> you can certainly show your work...
88 [00:40:13] <jim> ok, here comes the log
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99 [00:42:32] <jim> llvm (from sid) build (on jessie) regression test log: replaced-url
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121 [00:51:02] <pedrucho> hi could it be possible if someone whould help me out running a game on linux?
122 [00:51:22] <jelly> jim: that's weird. Is it during the build process? Did you build inside fakeroot (you don't have to)?
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128 [00:53:36] <jelly> jim: compilation is supposed to be done as normal user. Only making binary .deb is done as (fake)root
129 [00:53:37] <TomTomTo1> pedrucho: describe your problem, it might improve your chances.
130 [00:53:40] <pedrucho> can anyone name me a proper room for linux gaming?
131 [00:53:53] <pedrucho> sure TomTomTo1
132 [00:54:24] <pedrucho> TomTomTo1: im trying to run a game called jagged alliance 2 on my pc
133 [00:54:52] <pedrucho> i got the original game, but its for windows
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138 [00:56:27] <TomTomTo1> #winehq might be able to help you. looks like you can run it fairly well with a mod: replaced-url
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140 [00:56:39] <pedrucho> i got the data file, some one told me that i can copy the data file into linux and use a run file to make it work
141 [00:57:02] <pedrucho> wine its a good idea
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145 [00:57:13] <TomTomTo1> you can't run windows binaries natively.
146 [00:57:25] <pedrucho> TomTomTo1: but i dont intend to use wine to make my game run
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150 [00:58:11] <pedrucho> TomTomTo1: theres a linux version of my pc game for linux
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161 [01:03:15] <TomTomTo1> i see. good luck, then.
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178 [01:09:18] <katronix> Hi all, on Jessie what user owns apache2 files (html, php, etc) ?
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182 [01:10:14] <okamis_> Hi, I'm uncapable of setting the default keyboard layout to a custom one. I want the new keyboard layout to apply before the login manager
183 [01:10:26] <katronix> is it replaced-url
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209 [01:28:14] <radw62> hello, i just discover the iscsi lun's from debian (/dev/sdb1), i formated it in esxi as vmf5, and now debian not boot normal
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211 [01:28:54] <radw62> mount -a says it cant find ext4 filesystem
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216 [01:32:33] <katronix> Is anyone here who can help me with apache2? It was working but now it claims everything returns a 404, even if I specify the correct path
217 [01:33:31] <bazhang> #httpd can katronix
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219 [01:34:00] <katronix> bazhang: even if I used debian's apt to install it?
220 [01:34:43] <bazhang> you said it was an apache problem
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222 [01:35:19] <katronix> well I'm having an issue with apache, not sure who is at fault, but guess I will check with apache
223 [01:35:37] <afernandez_> Installation one thing configuration and troubleshooting #httpd
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225 [01:37:01] <katronix> ok
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240 [01:45:18] <Dan68> Hmm, running into some issues with a screen connected via displayport on Debian Jessie
241 [01:46:22] <Dan68> The screen is detected according to syslog, and I can occasionally get it to work replaced-url
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283 [02:12:25] <gwork> (yes, i use debian jessie) hello, there is this folder created by GWorkspace called GNUstep, in my home directory. does the tool inspector check for wrappers within that folder? if so, do i have to create a folder inside GNUstep?
284 [02:12:35] <gwork> I checked both of these links, none of them tells where to place my app wrappers, other than /usr/lib/GNUstep/Applications/ replaced-url
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330 [02:29:32] <jmcnaught> gwork: you might try asking in #GNUstep. what is the directory that gworkspace creates?
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333 [02:30:48] <jmcnaught> gwork: i don't know if GNUstep uses .desktop files, if it does it is probably looking in /usr/local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications but I don't use GNUstep so it might need something different
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347 [02:38:23] <otyugh> mhm, is there something like zenity that can create a icon in the tray ? As some apps can do ; xchat, clementine, claws-mail, networkmanager, orage, liferea...
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356 [02:43:06] <jmcnaught> otyugh: did you try zenity --notification?
357 [02:43:33] <otyugh> this achieve notifications, not icon in tray
358 [02:43:44] <otyugh> right ?
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361 [02:45:31] <otyugh> althought I will use at if nothing else comes up, thanks.
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365 [02:46:14] <jmcnaught> correct, however i think that GNOME at least is moving away from have a systray
366 [02:46:25] <jmcnaught> or at least treating it like a legacy feature
367 [02:46:45] <otyugh> good thing I use old stuff then :D
368 [02:46:55] <jmcnaught> otyugh: is this for the package update button that you were talking about earlier?
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371 [02:47:52] <otyugh> yeah, I'm ending up writing my own solution as I tried what was available and wasn't convinced it was user friendly enought, so I'll try to make my own medicine
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374 [02:49:36] <otyugh> well, just making a dirty workaround isn't writing a solution, but will do until I get strong enought to write a real program doing that x)
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376 [02:50:14] <jmcnaught> otyugh: gnome-packagekit isn't sufficient? are these for desktops at an organization that you are the sysadmin for?
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378 [02:50:35] <pavlz> hi
379 [02:50:55] <afernandez_> Can anyone tell me please what could this be?
380 [02:50:57] <afernandez_> replaced-url
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382 [02:51:09] <afernandez_> I had to put some line breaks
383 [02:51:21] <afernandez_> other ways the pastebin did not work
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385 [02:51:32] <pavlz> i forgot the name of the command that is necessary to see which process are running
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387 [02:51:52] <missmbob> afernandez_: it provides pretty graphs for reports on your server
388 [02:52:05] <otyugh> jmcnaught, it didn't "wow" me alright, lot of unecessary waiting time and confusing loading time :p
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390 [02:52:14] <afernandez_> Yes but why is that command running all the time?
391 [02:52:46] <missmbob> probably your vps provider put it there
392 [02:53:11] <afernandez_> every 5 mins
393 [02:53:15] <afernandez_> My what?
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395 [02:53:26] <missmbob> yeah. updated info is the point for updated graphs
396 [02:53:36] <jmcnaught> otyugh: if your script is going to be handling privilege escalation so that users can upgrade the packages, well that could be dangerous
397 [02:53:48] <pavlz> can you tell me which is the command to use?
398 [02:54:10] <katronix> is there any prebuilt scripts that could configure both bind and apache for me? I would think this could be a rather easy shell script (for 'normal' options anyways)
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400 [02:54:26] <otyugh> I'll just put some allowed update command in the sudoers
401 [02:54:31] <jmcnaught> pavlz: you're looking for ps, top, or the newer systemd-cgls
402 [02:54:49] <pavlz> ok, It was top
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405 [02:55:01] <jmcnaught> otyugh: and use policykit instead of sudo because it's an X11 session?
406 [02:55:03] <otyugh> I don't see how updating the system could be a major security issue, least annoying
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408 [02:55:07] <pavlz> thank you
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412 [02:55:44] <otyugh> jmcnaught, sudoers -> NOPASSWD
413 [02:55:50] <kulyzu> hi
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416 [02:56:56] <jmcnaught> otyugh: stuff like gksu and policykit was created because using sudo in an X session can have complications
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418 [02:57:51] <otyugh> jmcnaught, what kind of complication ?
419 [02:57:52] <jmcnaught> katronix: there probably are scripts out there that configure them, but then what happens if it breaks and you don't know how to fix it? Also apache2 works out of the box for hosting static HTML on Debian
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421 [02:58:52] <katronix> jmcnaught: true, but it doesn't know anything about domain names out of the box :)
422 [02:59:04] <jmcnaught> otyugh: changing ownership on .ICEauthority is one problem. gksu will make sure that no environment variables are set that would be problematic so you should use that, or learn how to use policykit
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424 [02:59:43] <jmcnaught> katronix: no, you need to make config files and put them in /etc/apache2/sites-available and use a2ensite to enable them
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427 [03:01:14] <jmcnaught> katronix: i recommend using a config management system like Ansible or Puppet to automate this kind of thing, but it will still require knowing how to configure the applications you want to us
428 [03:01:33] <katronix> jmcnaught: yes I know that is why I was thinking it would be cool if I could just tell a command prompt something like add-site <domain name> <IP> and it would do all of the work for me :)
429 [03:01:34] <kulyzu> $ cat - # what does it mean
430 [03:02:03] <katronix> kulyzu: cat shows you the content of a file
431 [03:02:18] <jmcnaught> kulyzu: it roughly means put what gets typed into stdin onto stdout
432 [03:02:30] <kulyzu> cat followed by -
433 [03:02:52] <kulyzu> something like: $ php -r 'echo str_repeat("A", 52) . "\xbe\xba\xfe\xca";'; cat -
434 [03:03:52] <jmcnaught> otyugh: anyways good luck with the script. if this is for a fleet of desktops that you manage, i would do something different like trigger the upgrades to happen remotely, possibly after testing on a single computer first if you're concerned about downtime
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440 [03:05:56] <jmcnaught> katronix: the reason something like that doesn't exist is because apache can host many different kinds of site, so the command would need to know stuff like does the site use PHP, Python etc? Does it need special rewrite rules? Does it need special permissions on certain directories? Does it need custom logging?
441 [03:06:50] <jmcnaught> there are however lots of cpanel style web admin applications, but those are sketchy to use if you ask me.. too direct a path from the web to running commands as root
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443 [03:08:15] <katronix> jmcnaught: yes I know there is no way a script could handle everything, but it could do the basics at least
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472 [03:18:27] <winsen> Hi all
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474 [03:18:57] <winsen> can I resinstall the grub from the terminal without rebooting or using any disk?
475 [03:19:17] <TomTomTo1> or using any disk?
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477 [03:19:33] <winsen> I disk like debian lice cd, OR...
478 [03:19:37] <winsen> I mean...
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480 [03:20:04] <TomTomTo1> the command is grub-install.
481 [03:20:30] <winsen> yes, is it enough to restore the grub?
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484 [03:21:35] <jmcnaught> if you're still booted into Debian you should be able to do it
485 [03:21:56] <jmcnaught> except if you booted with BIOS and you want to intall grub-efi
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487 [03:22:17] <M-alex_mayorga> ¡Hola! So I'm looking at replaced-url
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489 [03:24:17] <winsen> jmcnaught: I am using debian night now. and my grub version is: grub-install (GRUB) 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1
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492 [03:25:53] <winsen> jmcnaught: what is the command line to restore it or reinstall it properly?
493 [03:27:05] <awal1> winsen, grub-install /dev/sda then update-grub (if any)
494 [03:27:43] <awal1> change sda by where you want grub to be installed
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496 [03:28:29] <awal1> what happens with your grub?
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501 [03:32:16] <amed> how to put firmware in the usb with debian iso?
502 [03:32:53] <gwork> jmcnaught: tried asking in #GNUstep already, no reply so far (two hours and counting); it creates $HOME/GNUstep. I tried copying the app wrapper to $HOME/GNUstep/applications and $HOME/.local/share/applications/ but the Inspector Tool does not read from there either. I will keep looking, thank you.
503 [03:32:53] <awal1> winsen, if debian is the only system in your machine, it should be safe to install it in sda
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514 [03:40:56] <winsen> Hi awal1: no my machine is running on multiboot
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517 [03:41:59] <winsen> Hi awal1: do you think it's safe do update the grub though?
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523 [03:43:41] <jmcnaught> gwork: #GNUstep looks like a channel you need to be patient with
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590 [04:22:48] <MaBunny> hello guys
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593 [04:23:07] <MaBunny> im presently talking from my fresh debian install
594 [04:23:18] <MaBunny> so
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596 [04:23:42] <MaBunny> i did try the steps told in tht debian manual,but i guess
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598 [04:24:01] <MaBunny> i did update-grub for my prev debian,not this one
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602 [04:25:04] <MaBunny> i cannot still load grub when im trying to open debian on this usb stick
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604 [04:26:07] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: start from the beginning
605 [04:26:09] <MaBunny> can anyone tell me tht if i do the following steps: 1)grub-install /dev/sdX 2)update-grub
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607 [04:26:25] <MaBunny> will it start working straight?
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619 [04:36:33] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: the story you provided is fairly unclear, previous debians, fresh installs etc. What does "cannot still load grub when im trying to open debian on this usb stick" mean?
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622 [04:39:55] <MaBunny> jmcnaught: well,i was having problems loading the grub on my fresh debian install on a usb stick,it was giving like normal.mod not found
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624 [04:40:20] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: you want to install grub onto a USB stick?
625 [04:40:30] <MaBunny> so i tried the command after mounting the "/" directory to /mnt
626 [04:40:39] <MaBunny> this command "chroot /mnt"
627 [04:40:54] <jmcnaught> !tell MaBunny -about reinstall grub
628 [04:40:57] <MaBunny> well jmcnaught,my debian is on a usb stick
629 [04:41:33] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: a different USB stick than the USB stick that you ran the installer from?
630 [04:41:49] <MaBunny> no the same usb stick jmcnaught
631 [04:42:38] <jmcnaught> hmmm... you have the installer image on the same USB stick that you are installing to? that sounds tricky
632 [04:42:58] <MaBunny> and now im on tht same usb stick typing to you but
633 [04:43:15] <MaBunny> i hav used the grub of my prev debian install to load it
634 [04:43:38] <MaBunny> jmcnaught: i hav grub or boot partition on a diff partition
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636 [04:44:02] <MaBunny> i mean the boot partition is diff then the / partition
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642 [04:46:18] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: so there are two different Debian installs on this USB stick, and a debian installer image?
643 [04:47:35] <MaBunny> no there are two diff debian install on two usb sticks,one which has grub working normally and the other which doesnt
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645 [04:49:14] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: okay. and you are booting from debian #1 USB stick, mounting the root and /boot from Debian #2 USB stick to do the chroot?
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647 [04:50:25] <MaBunny> well,the debian usb with grub working is a gui one,so
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649 [04:51:00] <MaBunny> i mount the debian gui usb,get to the booting process and select the debian cli usb to boot,which has grub not working
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651 [04:51:54] <MaBunny> the debian cli usb has a 200mb boot sector where grub is present,so reinstalling grub there wont be a problem,right?
652 [04:52:15] <MaBunny> the prev one has the root sector on a diff partition
653 [04:52:33] <jmcnaught> sounds like you're mixing up terminology here
654 [04:53:01] <jmcnaught> "i mount the debian gui usb" i thought this was the one that already has workng grub, why are you mounting it, and where?
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656 [04:53:19] <jmcnaught> do you mean that you insert it into the computer and boot from it?
657 [04:53:39] <MaBunny> yes tht onbe already has grub working,so i use tht grub to load this present debian to boot up
658 [04:53:44] <MaBunny> yes
659 [04:53:46] <jmcnaught> also what is a 200mb boot sector. is that a partition that you are using for /boot ?
660 [04:54:01] <MaBunny> and load this debian whicxh is terminal based
661 [04:54:24] <jmcnaught> how do you use grub to load the new Debian install? Are you talking about mounting the second USB stick, and using chroot?
662 [04:54:24] <MaBunny> yes thts where the not-working grub is present
663 [04:54:43] <MaBunny> no,just selecting it from the boot screen
664 [04:54:49] <MaBunny> of the debian
665 [04:55:06] <MaBunny> where the advanced options are given
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668 [04:56:06] <jmcnaught> okay is still sounds like a complicated system, but follow the instructions in the factoid that dpkg messaged you
669 [04:56:50] <MaBunny> jmcnaught: can you pls explain to me what steps they are?
670 [04:56:50] <jmcnaught> you need to mount more than just the root filesystem, you also need to mount /boot if it's on a separate partition, and /proc, and /dev
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672 [04:57:19] <MaBunny> root filesystem has /proc and /dev
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674 [04:58:04] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: those are empty mount points
675 [04:58:23] <MaBunny> well wait
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677 [04:59:01] <MaBunny> mount -o bind /dev /your/root/dev
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679 [04:59:10] <MaBunny> is there a space after /dev
680 [05:00:13] <jmcnaught> yes there needs to be a space between /dev and the mount point
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682 [05:00:38] <MaBunny> ok
683 [05:00:46] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: look for "bind mounts" in the mount man page
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685 [05:01:34] <MaBunny> ok
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687 [05:02:19] <jmcnaught> the idea is that inside the chroot (look that up if you don't know what it is) /dev and /proc have to actually be mounted, but because the running kernel already has them mounted you are "binding" the original /dev to be the same as the /dev inside the chroot
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689 [05:03:50] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: also another thing you can try is the Debian installer can be booted in a rescue mode that has a menu driven GRUB reinstall feature
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691 [05:04:42] <MaBunny> ok i understand
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694 [05:05:05] <MaBunny> but idk if i want to run the installer again...will try on my computer
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707 [05:12:55] <katronix> Hi all, not sure if this is the proper channel or not, but on a Debian server, is there a special command to execute so apache will allow user directories to process php?
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717 [05:18:25] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: it's a rescue mode that you select at the installer's boot menu. it's not a reinstalling all of Debian
718 [05:18:41] <MaBunny> ok
719 [05:19:39] <jmcnaught> katronix: what are you trying so far?
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721 [05:20:44] <katronix> I've enabled user directory, and installed php. However currently the domain pointed to a user directory shows me code
722 [05:21:13] <jmcnaught> katronix: can you show the config file on replaced-url
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725 [05:24:04] <jmcnaught> katronix: "enabled user directory" do you mean you enabled the userdir module with a2enmod?
726 [05:24:18] <katronix> jmcnaught: replaced-url
727 [05:24:30] <jmcnaught> katronix: something wrong with paste.debian.net?
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730 [05:25:16] <katronix> jmcnaught: sorry just used to using pastebin
731 [05:25:23] <jmcnaught> katronix: userdir module is for when you want "replaced-url
732 [05:25:30] <MaBunny> jmcnaught: should i do this from my computer or the installer cd?
733 [05:25:49] <MaBunny> bcoz mount -t proc none gives : /proc is in use
734 [05:25:57] <jmcnaught> katronix: pastebin sometimes demands captchas to view the paste, and shows ads, so please use a better one like Debian's
735 [05:26:03] <MaBunny> srry if its a silly questiuon
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737 [05:26:28] <MaBunny> katronix: use paste.debian.net
738 [05:27:02] <jmcnaught> katronix: anyways.. you don't need to use userdir at all it seems, it looks like you want the website to be available from replaced-url
739 [05:27:24] <katronix> jmcnaught: yes that is correct, but if you visit the site now you see the php code
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741 [05:28:14] <jmcnaught> katronix: so disable the userdir module, and put the website/PHP files into a directory under /var/replaced-url
742 [05:28:45] <jmcnaught> katronix: are you using mod_php or php-fpm?
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744 [05:30:53] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: did you run that "mount -t proc none /proc" command before or after running the chroot command?
745 [05:31:03] <katronix> jmcnaught: I'm not sure, I was following instructions on one of the debian pages, but can't find it now :(
746 [05:31:25] <MaBunny> after the chroot command jmcnaught
747 [05:31:30] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: the installer has a menu that lets you reinstall grub on an already installed system if you are finding the commands difficult to use
748 [05:31:53] <MaBunny> ok jmcnaught,i will use tht now
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750 [05:32:07] <jmcnaught> katronix: which package did you install to get PHP? You should take some notes, think of your future self! ;)
751 [05:32:07] <MaBunny> how do i get into tht menu and option
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753 [05:32:22] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: rescue mode is one of the boot options of the installer
754 [05:32:30] <MaBunny> tht one?
755 [05:32:43] <MaBunny> wht do i hav to do there?
756 [05:32:49] <jmcnaught> follow the prompts
757 [05:32:56] <MaBunny> ok
758 [05:33:27] <MaBunny> ok,ill reboot and start the installer
759 [05:33:31] <MaBunny> brb
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762 [05:34:31] <katronix> jmcnaught: php5 is what I installed via apt
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766 [05:36:12] <jmcnaught> katronix: so that would have installed libapache2-mod-php5 unless you told it to install another package like php5-fpm
767 [05:36:37] <katronix> jmcnaught: no I didn't
768 [05:36:41] <jmcnaught> katronix: php5-fpm is what you eventually want to be using for PHP, but using mod_php is okay for getting started
769 [05:39:02] <katronix> okay what is the difference between the two?
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771 [05:40:10] <jmcnaught> one is a module loaded into Apache, and only works with the prefork (non-threaded) MPM. php5-fpm runs PHP in a separate process (optionally as a different user) and apache talks to it over fastcgi
772 [05:40:35] <k_sze[work]> Can somebody suggest a tool take a large file (hundreds of MB), and replace random blocks with null bytes?
773 [05:41:11] <k_sze[work]> I basically need a tool to simulate randomly damaged input files for fuzzing a library.
774 [05:41:12] <jmcnaught> katronix: mod_php is easier to get started with. I suggest you try putting the website in /var/replaced-url
775 [05:41:52] <jmcnaught> k_sze[work]: microsoft word
776 [05:42:05] <k_sze[work]> jmcnaught: lol
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782 [05:43:51] <zinx> k_sze[work]: have you heard of afl?
783 [05:44:10] <k_sze[work]> american fuzzy lop?
784 [05:44:16] <zinx> k_sze[work]: yes
785 [05:45:35] <katronix> jmcnaught: that would also mean only root could make changes to the site right?
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788 [05:46:13] <jmcnaught> katronix: you can use chown to change the owner of the directory/files of the website
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790 [05:46:28] <katronix> k
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794 [05:47:26] <jmcnaught> katronix: you'll want to make sure that the replaced-url
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799 [05:52:22] <katronix> jmcnaught: I suppose I would need to get rid of the mysql library also and then re-install it with the other php?
800 [05:52:54] <jmcnaught> katronix: which mysql library? how was it installed?
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802 [05:53:49] <katronix> jmcnaught: aptitude install php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 was one command line, I assume if I uninstall php5, everything else would go with it?
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804 [05:54:53] <jmcnaught> katronix: get it working first with libapache2-mod-php5, then read up on using php5-fpm. On Debian you can have php5-fpm and libapache2-mod-php5 installed at the same time, and they share the various php5-foo packages
805 [05:55:17] <katronix> ok
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808 [05:58:19] <jmcnaught> katronix: for what it's worth, there are several packages for web applications in Debian that will use libapache2-mod-php5 by default, so it's not that bad to use especially if you don't have a lot of sites or traffic
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901 [07:24:33] <Mava> any tips, just got i7 installed and man this runs hot! seems the cpu freq is somewhere round 3ghz even when i'm doing practicaly nothing.
902 [07:25:21] <Mava> been trying to set the freq to 800MHz, but no luck. it just does not want to obey
903 [07:25:32] <aaro> Mava: did you install cpufreq-utils?
904 [07:25:48] <Mava> up
905 [07:25:53] <Mava> *yup
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907 [07:26:33] <aaro> cpufreq-info will give the governor in use, check out is "ondemand"
908 [07:28:17] <Mava> aaro: now this just got interesting
909 [07:29:09] <Mava> seems that i've done something right, the governor is indeed ondemand and the cpufreq-info says current CPU frequency is 800 MHz. However, the i7z shows the actual freq to be approx 2.8
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911 [07:29:50] <aaro> what's i7z?
912 [07:30:05] <Mava> i7 cpu statistics tool
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915 [07:31:06] <aaro> i wouldn't trust that, trust cpufreq-info better :)
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917 [07:31:43] <aaro> also check your cpu temp, if it's not too high then it's ok
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919 [07:31:54] <Mava> aaro: and i will do as you suggest, just checked that also /proc/cpuinfo says 800Mhz
920 [07:32:08] <Mava> well the problem here is the laptop, and this burns under my hand.
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923 [07:32:53] <Mava> Though also faced the good old optimus problem in addition but it should be solved since after getting bumblebee and nvidia drivers here this cooled down a little bit
924 [07:33:35] <aaro> install the package lmsensors and do sensors | grep temp
925 [07:33:49] <Mava> 48-51 in degrees
926 [07:34:00] <Mava> aaro: got a conky running already ^^
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928 [07:34:19] <aaro> it's ok
929 [07:34:32] <aaro> usually critical temp is around 100
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931 [07:36:08] <aaro> you could change the governor to conservative so it stays at minimum freq if you want lower temo
932 [07:36:23] <Mava> nice
933 [07:36:26] <Mava> got to do that
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935 [07:36:48] <Mava> though i was just starting to wonder whether i have been able to really reduce the usage of nvidia's graphics here
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952 [07:48:28] <nutron> I'd like to ask a few questions about my screen issues but am running stretch, is there a channel here for stretch?
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954 [07:49:00] <babilen> #debian-next
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961 [07:52:30] <abrotman> nutron: irc.oftc.net
962 [07:52:40] <tacocat> beat me to it
963 [07:53:41] <Mava> aaro: but anycase, this seems to be quite nice. thanks =)
964 [07:54:14] <aaro> Mava: no problem :)
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986 [08:04:59] <v3gard> how does the python3-virtualenv package work?
987 [08:05:14] <v3gard> I installed it, but I didn't get a virtualenv executable
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992 [08:07:28] <v3gard> aha, if I installed python-virtualenv as well (python2), it did work
993 [08:08:04] <v3gard> so the idea is just to use "virtualenv --python=python3.4" if I want to stick with Python 3?
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995 [08:09:45] <v3gard> looks like it. got my virtual environment up and running here now with python3
996 [08:09:53] <v3gard> thanks for listening :-)
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1025 [08:22:05] <Xin> hi
1026 [08:22:18] <Xin> easiest way to set up a memory filesystem of a predefined size or a max size?
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1031 [08:23:50] <yanku> In jessie,docker can start
1032 [08:23:55] <yanku> In jessie,docker can not start
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1034 [08:24:12] <nutron> why doesn't the halt command work as it used to anymore? It used to actually shut the computer off, now every machine I use simply hangs on the command.
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1036 [08:24:41] <net0bsd_> hoal hola
1037 [08:25:08] <yanku> and "docker search debian", it says " Are you trying to connect to a TLS-enabled daemon without TLS?"
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1049 [08:31:30] <Xin> hey is there a logon script that runs somewhere for every shell - whether its ssh or logon/local shell?
1050 [08:31:39] <Xin> and for every user
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1053 [08:32:48] <Xin> or can I set globally the initial logon dir
1054 [08:32:58] <Xin> for everyone, once again in ssh and local
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1074 [08:50:46] <jim> "<jelly> jim: that's weird. Is it during the build process? Did you build inside fakeroot (you don't have to)?" <-- I think so
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1079 [08:54:28] <OneSploit> Hi
1080 [08:54:39] <OneSploit> I am having problem with logging in after upgrading sid on two computers
1081 [08:54:42] <OneSploit> is this known issue?
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1091 [09:05:26] <otyugh> OneSploit, did you try to log from tty ?
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1094 [09:07:21] <otyugh> DM are often misleading
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1096 [09:08:14] <otyugh> (something like a change of keyboard layout could have happened without you knowing it ?)
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1119 [09:20:24] <Strykar> judd: checkbackport openssh
1120 [09:20:25] <judd> Backporting package openssh in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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1195 [10:00:08] <OneSploit> otyugh, yes logging from tty works with some delay
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1197 [10:00:47] <OneSploit> otyugh, I dont know what unlocks gdm, after multiple attempts and restarts of gdm I finally get in, but it's something that causes regression with recent update as it happens on two computers
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1210 [10:06:06] <cq11> I accidentally messed up my graphics drivers, and I want OpenGL to work again. I installed nvidia cuda drivers, and I want to switch back to any AMD driver (proprietary or not). I tried all the usual stuff, but OpenGL still isn't working. Does anyone have any advice on any extreme things I could do to nuke it and return it to the default drivers I get from a clean installation?
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1214 [10:06:40] <cq11> (All the usual stuff like purging nvidia*, --reinstalling all the -ati packages, clearing the xorg.conf, etc.)
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1219 [10:10:09] <neglesaks> Any opinions on what is the lowest-resource-weight Debian with a GUI?
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1221 [10:10:48] <aaaaa> Does the AMD open souce driver only support one display at a time?
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1227 [10:11:54] <towo^work> aaaaa, no
1228 [10:12:21] <aaaaa> I have 3 4k monitors I am trying to set up on debian
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1230 [10:12:50] <aaaaa> But can only get a of the monitors to display any video
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1253 [10:19:02] <cq11> ... and unfortunately, like all driver issues where I have one computer, I'm going to be in and out of IRC as I try things. :(
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1257 [10:20:23] <funkadelic> whats the package for unecm?
1258 [10:20:50] <funkadelic> i installed ecm but when i try to run unecm or ecm it says command not found
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1261 [10:21:04] <Kralimah> Hey there, I am working with a single board computer APU2 by PC Engines and am playing with custom kernel. From the stock kernel (3.16) of Debian Jessie I switched to a custom 4.7 kernel and stripped it down to the minimu,m and skipped the initramfs. Now I can't connect to my local wifi. My config works perfectly on 3.16 but when on 4.7, it contacts the DHCP without ever getting a DHCPOFFER. ethernet works well, so it makes me wonder
1262 [10:21:16] <funkadelic> i need to convert some ecm files to iso images
1263 [10:21:58] <cq11> funkadelic: Possibly gmp-ecm? I have the not-found crap installed and that's what it suggested when I typed "ecm".
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1271 [10:23:29] <funkadelic> cq11, i dont think thats the right one .. i mean it doesn't have to be ecm if you can think of another way to convert ecm files to iso images
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1273 [10:24:17] <MaBunny> does debian hav a package named ar?
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1282 [10:27:57] <cq11> funkadelic: Yeah, you're right, you don't want that kind of ECM -- I didn't bother to google what it was.
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1286 [10:28:46] <damo22> why is it so difficult to compile a kernel module out of tree on debian now?
1287 [10:29:22] <funkadelic> cq11, there is a package called ecm - prepares CD image files so they compress better - which i did install but when i try man ecm it says command not found
1288 [10:29:44] <cq11> funkadelic: what about ecm-compress?
1289 [10:29:48] <cq11> or ecm-decompress?
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1291 [10:30:24] <cq11> (Disclaimer: I literally just googled "ecm to iso", I have no idea what an "ecm" even is.)
1292 [10:30:53] <funkadelic> those actually pulled a manual entry
1293 [10:30:58] <funkadelic> im reading them now
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1295 [10:32:13] <MaBunny> typing "/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 jessie \ /mnt/debinst replaced-url
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1297 [10:32:23] <MaBunny> any help?
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1300 [10:32:52] <jelly> MaBunny: well... does /mnt exist?
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1302 [10:32:57] <funkadelic> MaBunny, what are you trying to do
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1304 [10:33:06] <MaBunny> yes jelly it exist
1305 [10:33:09] <MaBunny> *s
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1307 [10:33:14] <jelly> MaBunny: are you root?
1308 [10:33:33] <MaBunny> yup
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1310 [10:33:48] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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1312 [10:34:13] <babilen> MaBunny: Could you show your command and its entire output?
1313 [10:34:14] <MaBunny> replaced-url
1314 [10:34:45] <jelly> MaBunny: are you literally typing \ and a space before /mnt/debinst ?
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1316 [10:34:56] <MaBunny> i also asked a prev question, does package "ar" exists?
1317 [10:35:02] <MaBunny> replaced-url
1318 [10:35:08] <jelly> get rid of that \
1319 [10:35:12] <MaBunny> yup jelly
1320 [10:35:18] <MaBunny> ok
1321 [10:35:26] <babilen> It tries to cd to " /mnt" (with the space)
1322 [10:35:48] <MaBunny> wht do i type?i thought tht it kinda points to tht directory
1323 [10:35:57] <jelly> the same command without \
1324 [10:35:58] <cq11> Holy crap, debootstrap is so cool. This is the first I've heard of it.
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1326 [10:36:15] <MaBunny> cq11: welcome to the pro league
1327 [10:36:23] <cq11> Is it easy to boot into the debootstrapped chroot jail? Like, load the kernel from it, and everything? Because this might solve my driver issue I asked about above.
1328 [10:36:39] <MaBunny> idk...
1329 [10:36:41] <cq11> I literally just wanted a fresh install of the ATI drivers -- I know the defaults the Debian installer gives work.
1330 [10:37:11] <MaBunny> you can reinstall them with the rescue shell the debian installer gives maybe
1331 [10:37:31] <MaBunny> i couldnt load the rescue disk of the debian installer :C
1332 [10:37:32] <jelly> cq11: nope
1333 [10:38:03] <jelly> you can easily use that userspace with the chroot command, but not the kernel
1334 [10:38:15] <MaBunny> jelly: i had troubles installing the package "ar"....what do you think?
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1337 [10:38:28] <jelly> MaBunny: ar command is in binutils package I think
1338 [10:38:37] <cq11> The issue isn't getting into a graphical system -- the issue is that I either get "X Error of failed request: BadRequest" with one configuration or 'Xlib: extension "GLX" missing' with another configuration.
1339 [10:38:37] <jelly> MaBunny: /msg judd file bin/ar
1340 [10:38:43] <cq11> But in no case can I get OpenGL working.
1341 [10:38:52] <MaBunny> ok
1342 [10:38:58] <jelly> MaBunny: or use packages.debian.org to hunt for package contents
1343 [10:39:23] <MaBunny> i cant do tht pal...been trying this for 4 days now
1344 [10:39:40] <jelly> you don't have a browser?
1345 [10:39:48] <MaBunny> yup i hav...
1346 [10:39:59] <MaBunny> debootstrap is working now
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1348 [10:40:12] <cq11> jelly: Okay, that's too bad. Thanks for the info.
1349 [10:40:13] <jelly> what makes you not be able to browse packages.debian.org then
1350 [10:40:20] <MaBunny> jelly: dont worry i wont waste your time
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1352 [10:40:52] <MaBunny> srry for my ....
1353 [10:41:00] <MaBunny> i forgot tht english word
1354 [10:41:12] <Kralimah> writing ?
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1356 [10:41:36] <MaBunny> cq11: is it a driver problem?
1357 [10:41:59] <MaBunny> GLX means you dont hav the required mesa packages maybe
1358 [10:42:12] <MaBunny> idk
1359 [10:42:17] <cq11> MaBunny: I'm pretty darn sure. It arose when I put in a GTX 970 and installed CUDA drivers. I then purged the crap out of those, popped in an AMD card, and am trying to get it working again.
1360 [10:42:25] <cq11> What mesa packages might I be missing?
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1362 [10:42:39] <cq11> Note that it was previously working with this AMD card fine.
1363 [10:42:39] <MaBunny> type apt-cache search mesa
1364 [10:43:07] <MaBunny> yes,your kernel updated what drivers it needed when you installed those GTX
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1367 [10:43:36] <MaBunny> then when you went back to the AMD,it didnt hav the prev configs so it crapped out maybe
1368 [10:43:44] <MaBunny> idk im not exp enough in this
1369 [10:44:28] <MaBunny> but i guess it rings with the version of Opengl the AMD/GTX cards supports
1370 [10:44:42] <cq11> I have all the important looking mesa stuff from apt-cache search mesa.
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1372 [10:44:56] <cq11> Yeah, I think what you're saying about not having the previous config is exactly right.
1373 [10:45:02] <tld> Will there ever be a ext5?
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1375 [10:45:15] <cq11> Like, ldd $(which glxgears) STILL gives nvidia crap.
1376 [10:45:26] <cq11> I don't know how to force it to blow it all away with the AMD stuff.
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1379 [10:46:38] <MaBunny> idk,do you hav the packages installed first....and ask exp ppl here which commands config-up the drivers when it comes to graphics cards
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1381 [10:46:46] <CQ> hello, when I run acpitool -w it lists 9 lines and then hangs (ctrl-c can kill it) ... any suggestions? I'm trying to get WOL to work
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1384 [10:48:21] <jelly> cq11: can you pastebin the output of that ldd
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1387 [10:49:24] <MaBunny> hello hiya
1388 [10:49:45] <cq11> jelly: replaced-url
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1399 [10:54:36] <cq11> jelly: Here's the same output from ldd $(which glxgears) in a chrooted enviroment that I just freshly made with debootstrap: replaced-url
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1402 [10:55:06] <cq11> Note the complete lack of nvidia references (of course).
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1405 [10:57:20] <jelly> cq11: okay, and are those nvidia libs part of a package? dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.352.39)
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1410 [10:58:57] <cq11> jelly: No, here's the worst part. For a variety of reasons I installed using the nvidia CUDA script from nvidia (which I regret), not a package. It left behind some nvidia-installer command.
1411 [10:59:08] <tld> Do you need a fast computer to use debian?
1412 [10:59:08] <cq11> Now, this command has a --uninstall option that the nvidia-installer-cleanup package automatically invokes.
1413 [10:59:31] <jelly> cq11: and you've already done that?
1414 [10:59:41] <CQ> tld: no. A lot depends onteh windowing environment though... use something like the xfce desktop on a slower computer
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1416 [11:00:14] <tld> What if you only have 16gb of ram
1417 [11:00:29] <cq11> But it has a known bug where nvidia-installer --uninstall hangs before finishing its duties if you have an X server running. I killed it, stopped X, and tried again without graphics, but it was too late. The rest of nvidia-installer-cleanup had actually completed, and removed nvidia-installer completely.
1418 [11:00:36] <cq11> So... I'm sort of just screwed.
1419 [11:00:44] <jelly> cq11: I'd run the nvidia installer that was used for cuda directly, manually (with --uninstall), again
1420 [11:00:49] <MaBunny> tld: if you want to run debian with a slow computer,try using the terminal version of it
1421 [11:01:13] <cq11> jelly: I'll try. I think it might be the case that the nvidia installer script wants to fully install before it installs nvidia-installer again. :(
1422 [11:01:25] <cq11> That would be ridiculous. Installing the CUDA driver just so I can uninstall it properly?
1423 [11:01:31] <jelly> sure why not
1424 [11:01:46] <cq11> That's so obscene.
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1426 [11:02:10] <geeg> hi, how is /dev/zero used?
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1432 [11:03:20] <cq11> jelly: Okay, I need to stop X to do this. I'll report back later, probably...
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1440 [11:05:39] <cq11> jelly: Okay, it's about as bad as you could possibly imagine.
1441 [11:06:00] <cq11> Now the nvidia installer script (.run file) refuses to do anything because it thinks I already have an installation of the CUDA drivers.
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1443 [11:06:20] <cq11> So I can't get it to populate /usr/bin with the nvidia-installer thingum thats bundled inside it.
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1445 [11:06:26] <jelly> cq11: is the same installer used for just cuda as for the rest of the nvidia stuff?
1446 [11:06:50] <jelly> or does cuda have its own installer
1447 [11:06:54] <cq11> jelly: Yes. The CUDA thing is mostly a distraction. It's just a driver installer script that asks if you want CUDA as well.
1448 [11:06:59] <MaBunny> or is this something else
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1450 [11:07:03] <cq11> I've been saying "no" to CUDA.
1451 [11:07:14] <cq11> It won't even install just the non-CUDA components.
1452 [11:07:38] <jelly> cq11: I guess you can fix the libGL symlinks manually to make mesa work, and worry about leftover cruft later
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1454 [11:08:37] <cq11> jelly: ... I hope so. :( I think it might be worse than that, though. I think some of these opengl SOs get blown away, and don't use alternatives, and stuff.
1455 [11:08:48] <cq11> I'm really praying I can just fix up a few paths and things will work again.
1456 [11:09:09] <cq11> I have my system in a really really messed up state. Honestly, if I had a separate home partition I would just reinstall.
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1459 [11:09:43] <CQ> cq11: so create a new home partition (shrink the root via gparted if needed) and move the stuff over...
1460 [11:09:53] <MaBunny> cq11: take a backup and reinstall
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1463 [11:10:31] <cq11> CQ: MaBunny: Yeah... I know you're both just right...
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1466 [11:10:53] <cq11> It's not like I don't even have other drives already plugged into this machine that I could stage crap on...
1467 [11:11:02] <cq11> Maybe I'll just do that. I've spent enough time fighting this.
1468 [11:11:04] <MaBunny> or
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1470 [11:11:37] <MaBunny> cq11: start learning the terminal and uninstall the GUI part of your current debianb
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1472 [11:11:54] <MaBunny> this one^^ is more fun
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1482 [11:14:12] <MaBunny> cq11: is it on a usb stick or hard disk?
1483 [11:14:22] <cq11> MaBunny: Is what?
1484 [11:14:27] <MaBunny> the os
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1486 [11:14:37] <cq11> Everything is on a hard drive.
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1488 [11:15:17] <MaBunny> then use the terminal....partitioning a harddrive again and again creates bad sectors in it
1489 [11:15:30] <jelly> MaBunny: wtf
1490 [11:15:40] <jelly> that's not how HDDs work!
1491 [11:15:51] <MaBunny> then?
1492 [11:16:23] <stoned> Uh.
1493 [11:16:29] <stoned> What dude?
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1504 [11:21:04] <funkadelic> cq11, ecm-decompress is exactly what i needed, thanks. :)
1505 [11:21:40] <cq11> funkadelic: Great.
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1511 [11:23:40] <jelly> MaBunny: then: you can write a single sector on a typical hdd hundreds of thousands of times.
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1514 [11:24:53] <MaBunny> idk,once got my hard drive corrupted over multiple installs of an os
1515 [11:25:29] <jelly> cq11: you can dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL*, rm any symlinks, and reinstall the packages that are _supposed_ to provide those files
1516 [11:25:50] <eSa|> My radeon driver doesn't work anymore, what should I do? It worked fine for some days
1517 [11:25:54] <jelly> judd: file usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL*
1518 [11:25:57] <judd> Search for usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL* in jessie/amd64: [truncated] libglobus-common-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglobus_common.so.0.15.26; libglobus-gridmap-verify-myproxy-callout-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglobus_gridmap_verify_myproxy_callout.so; libglobus-gridmap-eppn-callout-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-
1519 [11:25:58] <judd> gnu/libglobus_gridmap_eppn_callout.so; libglobus-gram-protocol-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglobus_gram_protocol.so.3.9.12; libglobus-ftp-control-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglobus_ftp_control.so.1.4.12; libglobus-gass-transfer-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglobus_gass_transfer.so.2.6.8; libglobus-gass-copy-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64 (3 more messages)
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1522 [11:26:24] <jelly> judd, you so insensitive
1523 [11:26:33] <cq11> jelly: That's very useful. I didn't know about dpkg -S. Thanks.
1524 [11:26:39] <cq11> Let me try moving crap around.
1525 [11:26:49] <cq11> eSa|: Join the club. ;)
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1527 [11:27:39] <jelly> cq11: that'd be libgl1-mesa-glx for a start
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1530 [11:29:00] <cq11> jelly: Okay, this seems relevant: replaced-url
1531 [11:29:14] <cq11> Ignore all the dumb errors and warnings, except that longest line.
1532 [11:29:21] <cq11> that ends in "glx is broken".
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1534 [11:29:53] <eSa|> cq11, fbdev? text-mode-only?
1535 [11:30:43] <cq11> eSa|: No, my driver is working fine except for OpenGL. It's almost certainly unrelated to what you're experiencing. I didn't get a regression recently.
1536 [11:30:52] <jelly> cq11: that's just fine
1537 [11:31:10] <eSa|> Honestly I was surprised having gl working again, but now I've discovered I where with wayland
1538 [11:31:27] <jelly> cq11: "I, dpkg, have noticed this alternative set is messed up so I'm going to fix it"
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1540 [11:32:08] <eSa|> :-|
1541 [11:32:13] <cq11> In theory --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx should be relatively idempotent, no?
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1544 [11:32:55] <eSa|> may I paste here Xorg.0.log?
1545 [11:32:57] <jelly> cq11: now try ldd again.
1546 [11:33:11] <eSa|> cq11, I'll Try it
1547 [11:33:29] <jelly> cq11: or just ls -la /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.*
1548 [11:33:32] <cq11> jelly: Nope, same nvidia stuff.
1549 [11:34:10] <cq11> jelly: Bad: replaced-url
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1551 [11:34:19] <cq11> August 3rd is when I installed the bunk Nvidia crap.
1552 [11:34:37] <jelly> cq11: ls -ld /etc/alternatives/glx--libGL.so-x86_64-linux-gnu
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1555 [11:35:03] <jelly> cq11: there's nothing bad there, badness is elsewhere
1556 [11:35:30] <cq11> jelly: I followed the whole chain: replaced-url
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1558 [11:35:43] <jelly> well, there's /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.352.39 I gues
1559 [11:35:51] * jelly missed that
1560 [11:36:12] <cq11> Exactly.
1561 [11:36:19] <cq11> I'm pretty sure /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.352.39 is from the nvidia junk.
1562 [11:36:35] <cq11> Oh!
1563 [11:36:40] <jelly> cq11: dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.352.39 say what?
1564 [11:36:43] <GitGud> hey. i have have compiled my own grsec kernel using make-kpkg and i installed the deb files in the debian system. Debian jessie 8.5. however i havent been getting apt-get upgrades in the past week. im not sure if this is normal?
1565 [11:36:50] <cq11> And that's the one that is getting linked in for libGL.so.1.
1566 [11:36:51] <jelly> says*
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1568 [11:37:12] <cq11> Remember that previous ldd? I checked, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 is a symlink to that /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.352.39 from August 3rd -- the nvidia one.
1569 [11:37:15] <stoned> MaBunny: the disk was already about to die, you just happened to have caught the bad sectors during the reinstalls.
1570 [11:37:24] <GitGud> so my question is do apt-get updates still affect custom compiled kernels? or is that for the out of the box kernels only?
1571 [11:37:43] <cq11> jelly: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.352.39
1572 [11:37:50] <cq11> Which makes sense -- it didn't arise via any package.
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1574 [11:38:05] <cq11> I just don't know how to convince another package to blow it away. Or alternatives, or whatever.
1575 [11:38:14] <stoned> MaBunny: bad sectors are caused by damage to they surface of the platters (many diff reasons)
1576 [11:38:15] <cq11> I honestly don't know how to work alternatives beyond the very basics.
1577 [11:38:23] <cq11> But thanks so much for this help, I think this is very close.
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1579 [11:38:32] <jelly> cq11: which debian release is this supposed to be?
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1588 [11:39:46] <jelly> cq11: also, dpkg -S /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2.0
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1590 [11:40:30] <cq11> I'm on Jessie.
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1596 [11:41:22] <cq11> jelly: replaced-url
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1605 [11:43:17] <eSa|> replaced-url
1606 [11:43:47] <jelly> cq11: okay, now run "update-alternatives --config glx"
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1609 [11:44:04] <jelly> cq11: pick fglrx, then run again and go back to mesa
1610 [11:44:45] <jelly> cq11: if errors happen, don't proceed further; pastebin the command(s) and the whole output
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1625 [11:50:34] <jelly> cq11: alternatives may error out of there are other nvidia files in place; if so, try to remove/move away each and try again
1626 [11:50:45] <jelly> until update-alternatives succeeds
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1639 [11:53:24] <cq11> jelly: replaced-url
1640 [11:53:44] <cq11> This was my first invocation of update-alternatives.
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1654 [12:00:58] <cq11> Okay. I should have some fglrx module, but I see nothing of the sort from lsmod.
1655 [12:01:02] <cq11> I think that may also be an issue.
1656 [12:01:10] <cq11> Or, perhaps even the main issue at this point.
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1665 [12:04:14] <cq11> jelly: replaced-url
1666 [12:04:24] <cq11> I think this is important. Now I can actually modprobe in fglrx.
1667 [12:04:29] <cq11> But it's still not quite there.
1668 [12:04:48] <cq11> but the output of glxinfo is now slightly different!
1669 [12:05:00] <cq11> I get the same error, but "name of display: :0.0" first.
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1678 [12:06:27] <cq11> Okay, it's giving a new different output now.
1679 [12:06:32] <cq11> I'm going to reboot. brb
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1684 [12:08:18] <cq11> Holy crap, it's working. :) :) :)
1685 [12:09:05] <cq11> jelly: Thanks for all the help. I did a little more futzing around and I did the above mentioned dkms crap so I could finally modprobe fglrx, and then I was getting weird different errors, so I just rebooted, and now it's working!
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1687 [12:09:52] <cq11> Wait...
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1689 [12:10:05] <cq11> Almost... glxgears is working, but my actual 3D application is giving "X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest".
1690 [12:10:07] <cq11> :'(
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1693 [12:12:05] <MaBunny> jelly i hav a question
1694 [12:12:18] <MaBunny> what are static device files?
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1700 [12:15:02] <MaBunny> install the makedev package, and create a default set of static device files using (after chrooting)
1701 [12:15:10] <MaBunny> in sec 3.4.1
1702 [12:15:18] <MaBunny> replaced-url
1703 [12:15:21] <rdz> how can i verify that a certain binary file (or any file, actually) coming from a package from an official repository is genuine? do deb packages keep a list of file hashes? and am I correct in believing that deb packages are signed?
1704 [12:15:24] <MaBunny> of this^^ weblink
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1748 [12:36:29] <eSa|> problem solved, I had wrong addresses in Xorg.conf
1749 [12:36:46] <eSa|> s/X/x/
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1776 [12:54:33] <funkadelic> how come pcsx2 isn't in the repositories?
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1778 [12:56:07] <Zharf> either no one's been interested in maintaining it or there's been some issues with it that someone didn't like
1779 [12:56:08] <themill> It's in sid and it's i386 only
1780 [12:56:19] <Zharf> ah
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1782 [12:56:34] <Zharf> so it is
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1785 [12:57:36] <funkadelic> Zharf, well im on 8.5 jessie, is there anyway to get it in the repos?
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1787 [12:58:19] <TomTomTosch> , checkbackport pcsx2
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1791 [12:58:29] <judd> Backporting package pcsx2 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual.
1792 [12:58:37] <TomTomTosch> !tell funkadelic about ssb
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1800 [13:04:22] <jelly> MaBunny: /dev contains entries that allow user space programs to interact with kernel space drivers for various devices. Normal user space apps need at least some "static /dev" was an outdated way to create all the entries in /dev in advance (a script called MAKEDEV was used for that). All of that is old and superseded by "udev". With udev the simplest thing to do when doing debootstrap-based install, is to do the "bind mount" mentioned a c
1801 [13:04:22] <jelly> ouple sentences later.
1802 [13:04:22] <MaBunny> could you guys look at my fstab?
1803 [13:04:35] <jelly> oops.
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1805 [13:04:39] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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1809 [13:05:02] <MaBunny> output: replaced-url
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1815 [13:06:00] <funkadelic> TomTomTosch, i added deb-src replaced-url
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1819 [13:07:23] <themill> it's still i386 only
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1840 [13:15:22] <funkadelic> themill, so should i just compile it from source or something? there are precompiled binaries i can download from third parties but there aren't any signatures or hashes to verify, i was kind of hoping to get it from the repos so that if there are any dependencies they will be easily satisfied.
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1848 [13:17:59] <themill> you might be able to run it on amd64 using multiarch. It might not compile on amd64
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1850 [13:19:04] <funkadelic> themill, not even the 32 bit package is showing up in the repo, did i add the wrong thing to sources.list?
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1859 [13:21:47] <rjsalts> funkadelic, have you added i386 to your architectures?
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1865 [13:24:32] <funkadelic> rjsalts, how do i do that?
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1868 [13:25:43] <rjsalts> funkadelic, dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
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1883 [13:31:25] <MaBunny> hello
1884 [13:31:45] <MaBunny> can you guys help me in telling where im wrong in my fstb config?
1885 [13:31:57] <MaBunny> replaced-url
1886 [13:32:11] <MaBunny> output: replaced-url
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1892 [13:34:33] <jelly> MaBunny: your fstab is cut off on the right side, you may have pasted it from vim
1893 [13:34:43] <MaBunny> ok
1894 [13:34:54] <jelly> MaBunny: pastebinit -b replaced-url
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1897 [13:35:27] <jelly> MaBunny: btw there's no "fat32" fs type for line 14, it's "vfat"
1898 [13:35:33] <MaBunny> ok
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1900 [13:36:22] <MaBunny> 5-10 mins pls....coming back in
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1904 [13:38:49] <reev> MaBunny use replaced-url
1905 [13:39:22] <jelly> paste.debian.net is jsut fine
1906 [13:39:45] <DeaDSouL> hi, I have debian wheezy installed. yesterday the electricity went down, so the server shutted down,.. when I switched it back on, it was complaining about ata1.00 things, and stucking in the booting process. So, I boot the recovery mode and did some fsck, i found 4 bad blocks, and got them fixed. now it's booting find,. the problem is whenever i login as normal user or root, it automatically logs me back out. how can I fix that ?
1907 [13:40:56] <DeaDSouL> * find = fine
1908 [13:41:36] <DeaDSouL> ps: it's server without gui
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1912 [13:43:08] <Xin> hey all
1913 [13:43:16] <Xin> I have a debian box with a hostname set to 'dev'
1914 [13:43:18] <DeaDSouL> hi Xin
1915 [13:43:32] <Xin> it was working perfectly but I was fiddling with samba and now it doesnt work ;<
1916 [13:43:43] <Xin> like I can access the box via ip but not hostname
1917 [13:44:50] <DeaDSouL> Xin: tried dev.local ?
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1919 [13:45:05] <eSa|> replaced-url
1920 [13:45:12] <reev> jelly let him learn something different today
1921 [13:45:16] <Xin> yeah dev.local doesnt resolve either
1922 [13:45:24] <Xin> it WAS working
1923 [13:45:54] <Xin> I just dunno how samba is related to hostnames lol
1924 [13:45:59] <DeaDSouL> Xin: i used to have same problem, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
1925 [13:46:12] <DeaDSouL> Xin: instead use /etc/hosts
1926 [13:46:27] <Xin> im accessing it from outside
1927 [13:46:40] <DeaDSouL> Xin: specify your machines in it
1928 [13:46:41] <Xin> its ok ill just fix samba
1929 [13:47:42] <Xin> oh
1930 [13:47:52] <Xin> its cause somehow its made the netbios nameserver stop launching
1931 [13:47:55] <Xin> makes sense
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1933 [13:48:30] <DeaDSouL> Xin: once i got my wheezy fixed i'll check my netbios too .. thanks bro
1934 [13:48:30] <jelly> reev: oh it's a sprunge.us code pastebin.
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1937 [13:51:36] <DeaDSouL> anyone guys?
1938 [13:51:40] <reev> jelly yeah
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1943 [13:51:57] <funkadelic> themill, its still not showing up in the repos
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1945 [13:52:21] <themill> real output in a pastebin?
1946 [13:52:32] <themill> dpkg: tell funkadelic about bat
1947 [13:52:38] <themill> dpkg: tell funkadelic about which arch
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1950 [13:54:41] <Xin> rofl now my samba share is working and my hostname is working
1951 [13:54:47] <Xin> but I cant log into the gui
1952 [13:54:49] <funkadelic> themill, 3.16.0-4-amd64
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1954 [13:55:19] <themill> funkadelic: that is about 10% of the information asked for.
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1957 [13:56:07] <funkadelic> dpkg --print-architecture; uname -r; dpkg --print-foreign-architectures) | xargs echo says syntax error near unexpected token themill
1958 [13:56:07] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, funkadelic
1959 [13:56:21] <themill> you missed the (
1960 [13:56:55] <Xin> ive tried rebooting twice but I just cannot log into the default debian 8 gui
1961 [13:56:59] <Xin> it shows the login screen
1962 [13:57:06] <Xin> I click the name enter my password
1963 [13:57:14] <Xin> and it just hangs for a sec then goes back to login
1964 [13:57:44] <funkadelic> themill, the only thing it outputs is amd64 3.16.0-4-amd64 i386
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1966 [13:57:57] <Xin> any ideas?
1967 [13:57:58] <themill> funkadelic: good. That's better.
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1969 [13:59:11] <Xin> grr how annoying
1970 [13:59:21] <Xin> I didnt even touch anything to do with graphics lol
1971 [13:59:31] <Xin> only samba and file mounts
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1974 [14:00:10] <Xin> I tried setting the session to another for login but that did the same thing
1975 [14:00:15] <Xin> to black screen then back to login
1976 [14:00:41] <hiya> Debian has ldt_modify enabled... vm86... uselib... and all these are responsible for 0 days etc. Why won't debian like to secure the kernel a bit and how about better binary hardening (more relro, bindnow, etc)
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1980 [14:02:00] <jelly> ,v linux-image-grsec-amd64
1981 [14:02:01] <judd> Package: linux-image-grsec-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 9~bpo8+1; sid: 9
1982 [14:02:14] <jelly> hiya: is that good enough for you?
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1984 [14:03:04] <hiya> jelly, why not better defaults like Ubuntu?
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1986 [14:03:15] <hiya> I am not here to provoke just asking
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1989 [14:03:52] <jelly> maybe someone's already working on the default kernel, dunno, but if you really care you might as well go with grsecurity
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1991 [14:04:21] <eSa|> why have I done such a stupid mistake?
1992 [14:04:24] <themill> gcc and g++ already do compile packages with hardening
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1995 [14:05:37] <jelly> hiya: I assume you're asking because you have an immediate need or usage scenario in mind?
1996 [14:05:40] <hiya> jelly, Do you know why did Debian leave it like this? I am sure Debian's security team is not dumb, there gotta be a valid reason?
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1998 [14:06:21] <jelly> nope. Also, debian kernel team is different from debian security team.
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2002 [14:06:50] <hiya> My friend had a debate on secure option for newbie and they came up with Ubunt.. LTS and they gave these reasons. Hence just wondering
2003 [14:06:59] <hiya> it was a shocker for me
2004 [14:07:00] <MaBunny> jelly: replaced-url
2005 [14:07:19] <hiya> I always thought Debian is more secure and harden kernel by default and so is binary hardenign
2006 [14:08:36] <themill> also, you should check details, vm86 is not enabled in the upcoming kernels, following the change to the upstream position on it
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2008 [14:09:09] <abrotman> hiya: it ultimately comes down to the admin team and security practices
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2011 [14:09:26] <themill> and what level of breakage is acceptable
2012 [14:09:48] <themill> (breaking drivers in stable is not acceptable)
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2015 [14:10:11] <hiya> themill, you mean in 9?
2016 [14:10:36] <hiya> abrotman, yes
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2022 [14:15:04] <MaBunny> i figured out the 0EA5 one
2023 [14:15:18] <MaBunny> but it says problem at line 8 and 10
2024 [14:15:34] <MaBunny> output: replaced-url
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2036 [14:22:17] <MaBunny> ok got it working but
2037 [14:22:26] <MaBunny> can anyone pls help me guys
2038 [14:22:40] <MaBunny> i dont kno if its a problem on the UUID
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2040 [14:23:26] <MaBunny> ?
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2042 [14:23:59] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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2045 [14:26:04] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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2048 [14:29:01] <themill> MaBunny: you've still not actually shown us the complete contents of your fstab
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2053 [14:32:19] <hiya> MaBunny, yo bro what is the error?
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2058 [14:34:51] <DeaDSouL> hi, yesterday the electricity went down, so the server shutted down,.. when I switched it back on, it was complaining about ata1.00 things, and stucking in the booting process. So, I boot the recovery mode and did some fsck, i found 4 bad blocks, and got them fixed. now it's booting fine,. the problem is whenever i login as normal user or root, it works for micro-seconds, then it automatically logs me back out. how can I fix that ? ps: serve
2059 [14:34:52] <DeaDSouL> r doesn't have gui
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2061 [14:35:10] <DeaDSouL> here is auth.log : replaced-url
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2063 [14:35:36] <DeaDSouL> and this is a clean one of auth.log : replaced-url
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2065 [14:35:48] <Xin> hey all how can I check that a partitions encrypted with LUKs is properly encrypted? :)
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2068 [14:37:14] <MaBunny> Mashallah mashallah
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2070 [14:37:32] <MaBunny> ain-akbar mubarak
2071 [14:38:02] <ikonia> Xin: are you using ubuntu or debian
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2073 [14:38:36] <Xin> both
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2075 [14:39:01] <ikonia> they both do things differently
2076 [14:39:07] <ikonia> so it will depend on how you are working / setup
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2079 [14:40:37] <Lemonade1947> Hey, my disk has what I believe to be a standard NTFS partition. It's accessible in windows, but not in Debian, I just get the "drive not valid" error.
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2081 [14:41:09] <ikonia> "drive not valid" is not an error
2082 [14:41:15] <ikonia> whats the real error you get and how are you accessing i
2083 [14:41:17] <Lemonade1947> Well, you know what I mean
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2085 [14:41:24] <Xin> ikonia; well lets start with debian - I am following this
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2087 [14:41:27] <Xin> replaced-url
2088 [14:41:28] <MaBunny> how do i use dhclient to make it accept traffic from usb0??
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2090 [14:42:12] <Lemonade1947> ikonia, trying to access it in pcmanfm
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2092 [14:42:55] <Lemonade1947> "The specified directory 'computer:///ST1000DM033-1CH162-1.drive' is not valid"
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2097 [14:44:53] <ikonia> Lemonade1947: I don't know what you mean, thats why I'm asking
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2100 [14:45:14] <Lemonade1947> how can I be more specific?
2101 [14:45:29] <ikonia> Lemonade1947: most of those file managers will attempt to manage via fuse
2102 [14:45:42] <ikonia> Lemonade1947: check the syslog to see what's going on as it will try to mount the disk at some level
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2104 [14:46:20] <Lemonade1947> It's a 1tb drive, 300ish for linux, 300ish for windows10 400ish for shared storage.
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2106 [14:47:00] <ikonia> thats just the disk size
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2108 [14:47:06] <ikonia> that really has nothing to do with things
2109 [14:47:25] <ikonia> you mount / access the partition, not the disk
2110 [14:47:43] <ikonia> so if you are trying to access the ntfs partition, you should see some sort of mount request in the syslog
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2113 [14:49:33] <Lemonade1947> ikonia, nothing relevant is added to it. I just looked.
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2120 [14:51:11] <ikonia> Lemonade1947: so there is no attempt to mount the disk as far as the syslog is concerned
2121 [14:51:20] <Lemonade1947> Nope.
2122 [14:52:03] <Xin> ikonia; so I am using vmware currently, ive made a new virtual disk and loaded it into my vm, formatted as ext4, cryptdisk'd it, generated a key stored on encrypted /home drive
2123 [14:52:27] <Xin> added new drive to /etc/crypttab
2124 [14:52:46] <Xin> and added to fstab
2125 [14:52:47] <ikonia> Xin: yeah, I don't actually believe what you are saying you are doing and what OS's you are using
2126 [14:52:52] <ikonia> Xin: others may help you
2127 [14:52:56] <ikonia> Lemonade1947: can you maually mount it ?
2128 [14:53:09] <Lemonade1947> I don't know how :/
2129 [14:53:12] <Xin> ikonia; lol, k
2130 [14:53:13] <Xin> replaced-url
2131 [14:53:15] <Xin> ^^
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2136 [14:53:42] <ikonia> Xin: yeah, but you are also saying the same thing in ubuntu channels
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2138 [14:53:57] <Rubas> Hello, how do I check if my server has a mail server?
2139 [14:53:58] <Xin> right, because I need the exact same thing in ubuntu - but now ive figured it out it seems itd be the same
2140 [14:54:02] <Xin> anyway
2141 [14:54:05] <Rubas> Can a server send mails out without a mail server?
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2143 [14:54:12] <MaBunny> hello guys
2144 [14:54:14] <Xin> now I just want to somehow check that my vmdk file is actually encrypted
2145 [14:54:31] <MaBunny> whats the UTF term for German
2146 [14:54:33] <Xin> I was thinking if I just wrote a single text file with some distinctive content
2147 [14:54:41] <Xin> and did a search for it in the file
2148 [14:54:46] <Xin> if not found, its encrypted?
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2150 [14:54:48] <Xin> :/
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2154 [14:56:55] <Xin> sweet its apparently encrypted just fine
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2156 [14:57:05] <Xin> hopefully as I say it will be identical in ubuntu! :D
2157 [14:57:09] <Xin> thanks anyway
2158 [14:57:30] <MaBunny> guys?
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2160 [14:58:06] <MaBunny> what does DE mean?
2161 [14:58:18] <MaBunny> Deutchsland?
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2163 [14:58:45] <Rubas> UTF-8
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2165 [14:58:47] <Rubas> de_DE
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2167 [14:58:56] <MaBunny> ok
2168 [14:59:05] <Rubas> MaBunny: sorry
2169 [14:59:11] <Rubas> UTF-8 de_CH
2170 [14:59:22] <Rubas> MaBunny: That should be the right one
2171 [14:59:23] <MaBunny> ok
2172 [14:59:37] <Rubas> MaBunny: Haha lol sorry
2173 [14:59:43] <Rubas> MaBunny: it is de_DE.utf8 # German language, Germany, UTF-8 encoding
2174 [14:59:52] <Rubas> MaBunny: Check out replaced-url
2175 [15:00:02] <MaBunny> haha ok
2176 [15:00:16] <Rubas> de_CH is Switzerland )
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2266 [15:47:39] <DeaDSouL> anyone guys?
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2268 [15:47:58] <sk1> yes
2269 [15:48:01] <polyzen> a lot of guys
2270 [15:48:05] <sk1> only
2271 [15:49:06] <DeaDSouL> any ideas that might help with my problem?
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2276 [15:50:12] <polyzen> shut* stuck* booted*
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2278 [15:50:32] <polyzen> and no :S
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2301 [15:59:48] <DeaDSouL> debian logs out immediately.. how to fix it ?
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2326 [16:06:28] <MaBunny> are there any commands to select and load kernel modules according to user wish???
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2330 [16:06:59] <han-solo> modprobe?
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2333 [16:07:25] <MaBunny> can modprobe install all the kernel modules??
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2354 [16:13:51] <MaBunny> guys???
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2357 [16:14:30] <themill> did you look at the modprobe man page?
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2360 [16:15:10] <MaBunny> ok
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2387 [16:33:59] <MaBunny> how to i let a normal user use ssh??
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2389 [16:34:21] <MaBunny> i mean what changes do i hav to make in sshd_config??
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2391 [16:34:37] <themill> none
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2397 [16:37:19] <MaBunny> ok
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2404 [16:41:44] <Iridos> that one was easy
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2411 [16:44:05] <geeg> guys, is there any practical use for /dev/zero?
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2414 [16:45:29] <teclo-> yes there is
2415 [16:45:53] <teclo-> if you want to write many 0 to something, you need to do dd if=/dev/zero of=....
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2417 [16:45:57] <Stummi> for example clearing your disk
2418 [16:45:59] <teclo-> for instance a usb key
2419 [16:46:05] <teclo-> indeed like Stummi says
2420 [16:46:10] <teclo-> or a disk
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2424 [16:46:31] <teclo-> you want to clean, or well, make it sure there is nothing on it
2425 [16:46:44] <teclo-> then you'll use dd if=/dev/zero of=<your disk>
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2433 [16:48:58] <akrherz> hi debian, I know little about debian packaging :( but am trying to support a .deb for Openfire, see replaced-url
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2442 [16:52:00] <babilen> dpkg: tell akrherz -about mentors
2443 [16:52:12] <babilen> akrherz: Please tell them right away that you are not packaging for Debian
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2446 [16:52:43] <xgpt> hey everyone! I would like to pose a question to you all. Is there a way to disable all networking on a debian/ubuntu system? I would like to install the OS, then install my applications, and then DISABLE networking on the device to users. I want this to hold across reboots. I want to be able to re-enable networking, but I want that to take another manual intervention to re-enable.
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2451 [16:54:38] <han-solo> systemctl stop networking?
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2458 [16:56:12] <xgpt> han-solo, will that hold across reboots?
2459 [16:56:43] <han-solo> well, you might wanna put that on the startup scripts then, i guess
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2461 [16:57:25] <akrherz> babilen: ok, thank you
2462 [16:57:40] <han-solo> or maybe there's another way
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2467 [16:58:24] <han-solo> or crontab @reboot :/
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2476 [17:00:30] <xqzybear> do I have to use pip to install python-gevent 1.1~? (it doensn't seem to be available in jessie or jessie-backports)
2477 [17:00:36] <geeg> thanks! teclo
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2483 [17:03:24] <xgpt> han-solo, crontab would be my solution! that's easy enough to implement/remove
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2485 [17:03:57] <DeaDSouL> hi, i tried fsck.ext4 -fc, -fDy, -fp... they all says that i do have 3 bad blocks... how can I fix them?
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2490 [17:04:53] <geeg> man fsck? :D
2491 [17:04:59] <maziar> hello, i have a HDMI camera and i connect the camera to my system over HDMI, now i want to stream from my system to all person on my lan, how should i do it ?
2492 [17:05:15] <han-solo> okay
2493 [17:05:58] <DeaDSouL> geeg: yes, that's why i used -fp ... but it doesn't fix the bad blocks
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2499 [17:07:12] <jelly> DeaDSouL: you can't fix them if they're really bad, you can just mark them so the filesystem will avoid using them, that's what -c does
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2504 [17:08:54] <maziar> anybody knows how can i record from HDMI input ?
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2507 [17:09:38] <jelly> maziar: you'd need a hdmi capture card.
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2513 [17:10:41] <geeg> does fsck will complaint every time about bad blocks?
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2519 [17:11:25] <DeaDSouL> jelly: ok, thanks.... btw, my problem is whenever i login, the system logs me back out in microseconds .... how can I know what's the problem or why does it do that?
2520 [17:11:46] <nohitall> hi guys, question regraading jessie, im trying to use curl but I get: Protocol " https" not supported or disabled in libcurl. Anyone an idea? never seen that before
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2522 [17:12:08] <maziar> jelly without it, i can not record from HDMI, my issue is i want to stream my office camera over our LAN network, you mean i should have a HDMI capture card for it ?
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2524 [17:12:50] <DeaDSouL> jelly: i've even create a new user from recovery mode, just to verify that .profile, .Xauthority, .bashrc ..etc are not the case.. and even that new user got logged out after he logs in by microseconds
2525 [17:13:25] <jelly> DeaDSouL: at the console? at the gui login screen (display manager)?
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2527 [17:13:57] <jelly> maziar: if your camera only has hdmi out and not say usb or wireless, yes
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2529 [17:14:21] <socomm> nohitall: did you google it?
2530 [17:14:35] <nohitall> socomm: tried multiple
2531 [17:14:44] <nohitall> besides curl should support https...never seen that before
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2533 [17:15:10] <socomm> replaced-url
2534 [17:15:26] <maziar> jelly bad news, but in windows, there are some many application that you can see what camera is see
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2537 [17:15:36] <nohitall> curl from jessie repo is not build with ssl support? I doubt that
2538 [17:15:39] <nohitall> i used it before 100 times
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2543 [17:16:41] <socomm> nohitall: ldd $(which cdurl) | grep ssl
2544 [17:17:03] <socomm> nohitall: ldd $(which curl) | grep ssl
2545 [17:17:11] <socomm> Would help if I could spell.
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2547 [17:18:04] <nohitall> libssl.so.1.0.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0
2548 [17:18:12] <nohitall> i also just installed curl 5min ago normally via apt-get
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2550 [17:18:21] <nohitall> thats why im dumbfounded
2551 [17:18:27] <nohitall> its a fresh jessie install
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2553 [17:19:29] <socomm> nohitall: libssl installed, I'd presume
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2555 [17:22:01] <socomm> also what does 'dpkg -l | grep curl && which curl' give you?
2556 [17:23:16] <nohitall> ii libcurl3:amd64 7.38.0-4+deb8u4 amd64 easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (OpenSSL flavour)
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2559 [17:23:19] <nohitall> ii libcurl3-gnutls:amd64 7.38.0-4+deb8u4 amd64 easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (GnuTLS flavour)
2560 [17:23:22] <nohitall> ii libcurl4-openssl-dev:amd64 7.38.0-4+deb8u4 amd64 development files and documentation for libcurl (OpenSSL flavour)
2561 [17:23:25] <nohitall> hm sorry
2562 [17:24:10] <jelly> maziar: then there has to be a way that camera is connected to the windows system.
2563 [17:24:15] <jelly> other than hdm
2564 [17:24:17] <jelly> i.
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2566 [17:24:23] <nohitall> socomm: replaced-url
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2577 [17:29:32] <nohitall> socomm: nice mystery aint it?
2578 [17:30:23] <han-solo> Tech101 : turn it off, and then on nack again
2579 [17:30:37] <han-solo> s/nack/back
2580 [17:30:51] <han-solo> was it admin101? :)
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2591 [17:35:07] <nohitall> wonder why it says " https" with whitespace
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2607 [17:41:34] <M-alex_mayorga> ¡Hola! So I'm looking at replaced-url
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2623 [17:45:33] <vargus> holla
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2628 [17:47:31] <M-alex_mayorga> vargus: ¡Hola!
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2636 [17:48:57] <greycat> "Starting with 4.87~RC1-1 exim will not accept messages with physical lines longer than 998 characters."
2637 [17:49:08] <greycat> ... what.
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2639 [17:49:40] * greycat remembers why he doesn't use exim on any of his actual important mail servers
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2641 [17:50:46] <jelly> greycat: eh, postfix has been doing that for quite a while didn't it
2642 [17:51:05] <greycat> Wouldn't know. I have literally never installed postfix.
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2645 [17:51:23] <jelly> all sane clients wrap their lines to fit the standard
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2648 [17:52:11] <vargus> exit
2649 [17:52:22] <jelly> I've had one single issue with long lines in the last 5-10 years, a custom mail filter of ours broke because of very very long lines
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2651 [17:53:10] <greycat> So Microsoft Outlook (or whatever they're using out there) just breaks up their paragraphs in some random spot?
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2653 [17:54:04] <jelly> greycat: no, they use MIME. The 998 limit is about smtp protocol.
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2656 [17:54:53] <Pr0metheus> ony my computer i first installed windows on an ssd (ssdA), then i installed debian on another ssd (ssdB) and i boot from ssdB, which shows a menu to select where to boot. Now i want to remove windows from ssdA and move my Debian installation there (from ssdB to ssdA). Can anyone give me the steps i should follow and i'll search for the details. Thanks
2657 [17:55:56] <va> replaced-url
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2659 [17:57:56] <jelly> mime messages with Content-Type: [...] format=flowed use extra syntax to concatenate raw lines where desired
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2661 [17:59:45] <greycat> I see.
2662 [17:59:58] <greycat> Or at least I'll take your word for it. MIME sounds godawfully complicated.
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2690 [18:13:26] <Strykar> judd: checkbackport squid
2691 [18:13:33] <judd> Backporting package squid in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libecap3-dev (>= 1.0.1-2).
2692 [18:13:45] <Strykar> judd: checkbackport squid3
2693 [18:13:46] <judd> Backporting package squid3 in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libecap3-dev (>= 1.0.1-2).
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2706 [18:22:21] <diphtherial> hey, i'm attempting to install wireshark via apt-get, and while most of the prompts are dealt with by using the -y param, there's a prompt during the wireshark install that waits around for me to respond to it
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2709 [18:22:36] <diphtherial> (i need this to occur automatically, so having it pause for user input is bad)
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2735 [18:32:57] <Kirito> Is nethogs broken in Jessie? I'm getting a "creating socket failed while establishing local IP - are you root?" error when trying to use it. (Obviously, yes I am root). A quick Google returns this, replaced-url
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2746 [18:37:05] <intersarsi> Hi everyone! I have a camcorder DV and I would like capture the video through firewire. Could you help me about this topic?
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2762 [18:44:02] <beloved> How can I check random read speed on a USB flash drive?
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2776 [18:49:36] <`Kevin> beloved: you can do quite a bit of things with fio relating to i/o... likely overkill for your needs but thats one solution
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2779 [18:50:19] <beloved> `Kevin: How?
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2786 [18:53:31] <`Kevin> id suggest you read more into the man page so you understand what you are actually doing.. replaced-url
2787 [18:53:55] <beloved> `Kevin: Thanks a lot.
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2789 [18:54:13] <beloved> for the link.
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2791 [18:54:35] <`Kevin> i/o isnt always a straight-forward test so mess around with it
2792 [18:54:36] <`Kevin> yep
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2808 [19:01:56] <beloved> `Kevin: Wonderful!
2809 [19:02:07] <beloved> `Kevin: I got what I sought.
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2813 [19:03:50] <simbalion> Can someone recommend a good gui sftp client? the version of Filezilla in the backports repo doesn't work right apparently.
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2816 [19:05:57] <jelly> simbalion: how does it fail?
2817 [19:06:20] <simbalion> jelly: times out on one of my servers but not others. I asked in the support channel and they said the version is too old so they can't support it.
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2820 [19:06:32] <jelly> ,v filezilla
2821 [19:06:33] <judd> Package: filezilla on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.5.3-2; wheezy-backports: 3.9.0.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.9.0.5-1; stretch: 3.20.0-1; sid: 3.20.0-1
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2823 [19:06:49] <jelly> simbalion: which debian release are you using?
2824 [19:06:54] <simbalion> jelly: jessie
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2826 [19:07:13] <jelly> ,checkbackport filezilla
2827 [19:07:15] <judd> Backporting package filezilla in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libfilezilla-dev (>= 0.6.1), libgnutls28-dev (>= 3.4.0), libpugixml-dev (>= 1.5), nettle-dev (>= 3.1).
2828 [19:07:24] <jelly> eugh
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2830 [19:07:32] <jelly> ,checkbackport libfilezilla-dev
2831 [19:07:33] <judd> Backporting package libfilezilla-dev in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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2835 [19:08:40] <jelly> so maybe backporting 3.20 yourself wouldn't be that easy
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2841 [19:10:53] <simbalion> I've never done anything like that I'm sure it would be a huge challenge :) might be fun to learn tho.
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2846 [19:14:13] <simbalion> I wonder if I could run bitvise using mono or wine.. it has a great sftp client
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2862 [19:18:17] <f-a> a car sharing service I use decided that it won't support booking from mobile phone no more, you need a smartphone now.
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2869 [19:18:40] <f-a> I don't want to buy a smartphone, is there a way to 'emulate' an android phone on debian? (other solutions/ideas welcome)
2870 [19:19:02] <simbalion> f-a: on the upside, smartphones allow you to record all of your phone calls, which is great for catching people trying to cheat you (which is basically everyone).
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2872 [19:19:09] <arha> f-a: bluestacks
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2874 [19:19:19] <arha> on vmware ?
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2876 [19:19:31] <simbalion> everyone should own a smartphone if for no other reason than to record all of their phone calls
2877 [19:19:40] <arha> nah
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2879 [19:19:54] <arha> smartphones dies if you hike beyond 0* C
2880 [19:20:19] <arha> if you live anywherenin the middle east and stay outside too much
2881 [19:20:31] <Zharf> 0C?
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2883 [19:20:48] <arha> or simply don t want to pay for the electricity to be used by google as a wifi scanner
2884 [19:20:51] <Zharf> then there'd be millions of dead phones every year in here
2885 [19:21:33] <arha> every time i went hiking andnit got beyond freezing, pretty much the whole group hsd smartphone issues
2886 [19:21:44] <Zharf> at least my phone hasn't died and it's frequently around -20, sometimes below -30
2887 [19:21:44] <f-a> arha: I am searching bluestack now, I suspect is not oss, right?
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2889 [19:22:03] <arha> there s a gsm phone with no smart display, uses AA batteries, waterproof, emegency-phonee kind of
2890 [19:22:23] <arha> now that s something everybody should have :D
2891 [19:22:28] <arha> f-a: sadly, no
2892 [19:22:59] <f-a> ouch
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2894 [19:23:10] <f-a> well, I guess I am fat enough, walking will do me good
2895 [19:23:22] <f-a> still, sad that everything is being pushed on smartphones
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2929 [19:37:15] <phpwar> in my log access I have more then 10,000 line with 118.193.216.126 - - [17/Aug/2016:19:20:34 +0200] "GET /modules/sendtoafriend/sendtoafriend_ajax.php/ HTTP/1.1" 404 42797 "replaced-url
2930 [19:37:15] <phpwar> ban im ? I remove the directory and I want to Ban im if someone try to get access to /sendtoafriend_ajax.php thank you
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2962 [19:49:04] <GitGrub> does debian apt-get update properly for custom kernels? i compiled my own kernel on a debian system and upgraded to that. But for the past week haven't been getting updates?
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2966 [19:51:02] <nkuttler> GitGrub: where would the updates for your custom kernel come from?
2967 [19:51:27] <GitGrub> nkuttler, you mean my sources list?
2968 [19:51:39] <GitGrub> i mean I'm running debian Jessie
2969 [19:51:42] <GitGrub> 8.5
2970 [19:51:48] <nkuttler> GitGrub: if you build a custom kernel you'll have to update it yourself
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2974 [19:52:15] <GitGrub> nkuttler, well do you mean update the custom kernel myself? or update all dpkg/apt-get packages myself?
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2976 [19:52:43] <nkuttler> GitGrub: no, just the kernel. the other packages will get upgrades from the repo
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2978 [19:52:46] <GitGrub> because i was talking about dpkg/apt-get packages update not being there for a whole week
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2980 [19:52:57] <GitGrub> not the kernel
2981 [19:52:57] <nkuttler> GitGrub: you're running stable, that's normal
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2984 [19:53:08] <GitGrub> oh i see. ok dope. thanks a lot. i was confused
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2986 [19:53:29] <jelly> GitGrub: only if your custom kernel broke the network somehow so the updates couldn't go through...
2987 [19:53:48] <GitGrub> jelly, so how can i test this?
2988 [19:54:04] <jelly> GitGrub: you'd notice network not working at all!
2989 [19:54:13] <GitGrub> well its working because I'm here xD
2990 [19:54:23] <Phoenixbyrd> good afternoon all
2991 [19:54:36] <GitGrub> as a test yesterday i added sid sources then did the apt-get update and apt-get upgrade command and i got a bunch of updates ready but i said no to that..then removed the sid sources
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2993 [19:55:04] <jelly> GitGrub: all's fine then. Make sure you have the security repo enabled.
2994 [19:55:07] <jelly> !jessie sources.list
2995 [19:55:08] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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2999 [19:55:48] <GitGrub> jelly, oh i see what nkuttler means. before running jessie 8.5 i was running sid testing. and that one got upgrades like every night. so i expected the same from this one. but because this is stable we get updates later because things get chekced more. makes sense
3000 [19:55:53] <DeaDSouL> hi, in /var/log/syslog .. it says : 'EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro' .......... is it normal ? could be the one causing the system to log me out immediately every time i login?
3001 [19:55:54] <GitGrub> alright thanks guys :)
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3009 [20:00:48] <jelly> GitGrub: on stable, you _only_ get security and critical fixes. If you have nothing install that's known to be horribly insecure or horribly broken... no updates.
3010 [20:01:05] <jelly> installed*
3011 [20:01:15] <GitGrub> yeahh i get that now
3012 [20:01:26] <GitGrub> yeah i was thinking something was wrong because i compiled my own kernel
3013 [20:02:03] <GitGrub> like apt didn't find my kernel in their db or something so i couldn't get updates for old packages or somehting
3014 [20:02:17] <sypher> GitGrub: Be aware that running your own compiled kernel means you no longer get security updates for it. You'll have to keep building your own kernel frequently.
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3016 [20:02:45] <jelly> sypher: he's getting security updates, just not using them.
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3018 [20:03:03] <sypher> jelly: I meant for the running kernel. :P
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3021 [20:03:27] <jelly> he never did have security updates for the custom one
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3023 [20:04:07] <sypher> That's what I'm saying...?
3024 [20:04:12] <GitGrub> well i got it from here: replaced-url
3025 [20:04:24] <GitGrub> kernels*
3026 [20:04:49] <sypher> GitGrub: Suppose I'm asking WHY you're not using the distribution kernel.
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3029 [20:05:33] <GitGrub> i had 3.16 kernel and i tried to upgrade it but they didn't let me :p
3030 [20:05:44] <GitGrub> like i did apt dist-upgrade and nothing happened
3031 [20:06:11] <GitGrub> so i figured i would upgrade it myself. other than that, for my desktop i suppose there was no need to compile my own
3032 [20:06:17] <sypher> GitGrub: Because that's the current supported kernel for Debian jessie, with included backported fixes. Why would you need a different one?
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3035 [20:06:39] <sypher> GitGrub: I'd recommend removing whatever custom compiled kernel you're using and simply using the included one.
3036 [20:06:56] <GitGrub> i guess i could add backports to my sources and upgrade kernels that way
3037 [20:07:14] <GitGrub> but I was curious if i could do both
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3041 [20:07:29] <GitGrub> as in keep getting security updates for custom kernels?
3042 [20:07:42] <GitGrub> or is that not possible?
3043 [20:07:56] <sypher> GitGrub: You don't have a need for a custom kernel at all, or a backport.
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3045 [20:08:16] <sypher> GitGrub: Just use the 3.16 kernel that is already maintained by the Debian maintainers.
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3047 [20:08:33] <GitGrub> i see. ok thanks
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3050 [20:09:15] <mtn> sypher: there are reasons to use a newer kernel, after all
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3052 [20:09:40] <sypher> mtn: Not unless you can properly articulate such a reason. If you can't, then no, there isn't.
3053 [20:09:47] <mtn> GitGrub: if you need/want a newer kernel, just use backports. that is why it exists ;)
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3055 [20:10:06] <GitGrub> alright :)
3056 [20:10:07] <mtn> sypher: you have to be kidding. newer hardware, for one reason. jeez
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3059 [20:10:33] <jelly> mtn: that'd be "articulation of a reason" in syphertalk
3060 [20:10:35] <GitGrub> newer kernels give a higher sense of security and belonging :)
3061 [20:10:36] <GitGrub> but ok. i see what you mean
3062 [20:10:50] <sypher> GitGrub: Security updates are already backported into the stable kernel release. :)
3063 [20:11:14] <jelly> GitGrub: that sense is about as wrong as it can be wrt security, tho
3064 [20:11:14] <Serialbox> I'm eager to see grsecurity in the stable release branch :)
3065 [20:11:22] <sypher> mtn: And I'm sure you're more than capable enough of identifying that need. GitGrub, on the other hand, hasn't given a real reason to need anything other than the stable kernel.
3066 [20:11:24] <mtn> jelly: oh, I see. must get my "silly" filters changed. they seem to be plugged
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3069 [20:12:12] <sypher> mtn: Yeah, I wasn't saying that there is NEVER a reason to use a newer kernel. Just not in GitGrub's particular case. :)
3070 [20:12:13] <jelly> tune up them comprehension skillz
3071 [20:12:14] <GitGrub> yeah i was working with grsecurity and compiling kernels for those. but One question about that. is there a way to configure grsecurity, the grsecurity updated kernel that you get from apt-get ?
3072 [20:12:33] <jelly> ,v linux-image-grsec-amd64
3073 [20:12:34] <judd> Package: linux-image-grsec-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 9~bpo8+1; sid: 9
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3076 [20:12:45] <jelly> Serialbox: backports good enough?
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3078 [20:12:55] <Serialbox> jelly: yes Sir, i didn't realize it'd made it into backports
3079 [20:13:00] <Serialbox> jelly: thanks!
3080 [20:13:04] <GitGrub> jelly, when you compile grsecurity with a linux kernel you get all these configuration options. when you update with apt-get you dont
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3082 [20:13:22] <Serialbox> I'm still compiling from source grsecurity
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3084 [20:13:40] <jelly> GitGrub: you get a predefined set of options, and it's still a lot of them, you just didn't have to see them
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3086 [20:14:02] <p0rt> replaced-url
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3088 [20:14:08] <p0rt> any ideas why is this non-free?>
3089 [20:14:14] <GitGrub> jelly, is there a way to see this predefined set of options so that I could see if it fits my use case ?
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3095 [20:17:28] <jelly> yes but I don't know how
3096 [20:18:00] <jelly> apart from the obvious, download the package and look at /boot/config-*
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3098 [20:18:29] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: what is sda5's mountpoint?
3099 [20:18:31] <GitGrub> i think it would be nice if the options that were selected in debian's grsec would be made public in the website somewhere so i dont have to second guess myself on the options that those were selected. i suppose sysctl shows some options though. but idk if all of those were covered by that
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3101 [20:18:46] <GitGrub> i see jelly ok. makes sense
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3104 [20:19:18] <Aorious> Hi, I where can I find an up-to-date guide on setting up debian live with persistence?
3105 [20:19:20] <GitGrub> i guess i'll just study that. but thanks for the advice everybody :)
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3140 [20:35:04] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: it should be mounted on /
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3142 [20:35:15] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: sorry i was away
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3145 [20:36:21] <cq11> p0rt: Could be something simple like how gcc-docs is non-free?
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3149 [20:37:04] <uhoreg[m]> p0rt: see replaced-url
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3153 [20:37:49] <cq11> p0rt: Or ^^. (I was just butt pulling.)
3154 [20:37:55] <uhoreg[m]> e.g. search for "This code IS to be used for non-commercial usage ONLY.", and "No license found, only copyright"
3155 [20:38:32] <DeaDSouL> is there any website that offers a commercial debian support ?
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3161 [20:41:12] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: so it remounted / as readonly, a fsck might fix it (reboot) but then again it could be a dying HDD
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3163 [20:41:50] <uhoreg[m]> DeaDSouL: replaced-url
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3165 [20:42:24] <DexterF> h
3166 [20:42:27] <DexterF> hi
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3168 [20:42:43] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: i tried: fsck.ext4 -vfy /dev/sda5 .. -vcy .. -vDy .. -vp ... didn't fix the issue where it logs me back out every time i try to login
3169 [20:43:06] <DeaDSouL> uhoreg[m]: thanks
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3171 [20:43:44] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: i tried systemctl -H /dev/sda5 ... it says it's ok and passed
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3173 [20:44:38] <DeaDSouL> i'm really out of ideas... i don't know what causes this... what could causing the system to log me out
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3178 [20:46:00] <DeaDSouL> i've created a new user.. just to make sure, there is no custom .profile, .bashrc or anything but the defaults... same thing, the system logs him back out once he logged in
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3180 [20:46:25] <`Kevin> is this logout specific to graphical login? or ssh even
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3183 [20:47:03] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: no bro, i don't have any gui.. it's a local server ... even the ssh didn't work
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3187 [20:47:27] <greycat> What errors/output do you get when the ssh connection is severed?
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3196 [20:49:51] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: here bro: replaced-url
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3200 [20:51:08] <greycat> That is one fucked-up machine.
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3202 [20:51:20] <DeaDSouL> greycat: here bro replaced-url
3203 [20:51:22] <`Kevin> im curous what state the filesystem is in given those errors(since it remounted /), eg can it read authorized keys, launch bin/bash properly etc
3204 [20:51:26] <`Kevin> greycat: x2
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3208 [20:51:45] <greycat> The first one looks like your shell died, or you never got to a shell because of libwrap bullshit, or who knows. You'd need to be on the server to diagonse it. The last one looks like sshd itself died.
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3210 [20:52:00] <`Kevin> indeed ^
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3216 [20:53:04] <DeaDSouL> greycat: in normal boot, it won't let me be logged in... i can only login as root in recovery mode
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3222 [20:54:33] <greycat> I rather doubt our ability to help you with this system. It looks like everything you try is going to fail.
3223 [20:55:15] <DeaDSouL> greycat: exactly... i just wanna why ?
3224 [20:55:34] <DeaDSouL> what do you think it might causing this
3225 [20:56:02] <greycat> Get to the console, look for kernel errors already written on the console. Try to login as root. If that works, try dmesg. If possible, try to read log files in /var/log.
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3232 [20:57:34] <DeaDSouL> greycat: is there any tool to upload files via command-line... since it will be hard to do it manually from command line
3233 [20:58:15] <DeaDSouL> greycat: it's ok, i'll try to save them on usb then upload them from another machine
3234 [20:58:18] <DeaDSouL> brb
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3238 [20:59:38] * greycat stares at those words, re-reads them a few times... oh dear gods, I think he means he expects US to read HIS LOG FILES
3239 [20:59:47] <`Kevin> yep.
3240 [21:00:05] <`Kevin> :( lol...
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3244 [21:02:04] <DeaDSouL> LOOOOL ... i'm just so helpless :(
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3247 [21:02:48] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: did you run fsck 4 times as per above ^ while sda5 was mounted ro ?
3248 [21:02:50] <greycat> Just find some damned errors and look at 'em with your eyes. Do they look like disk errors? Then your disk is dying. Time to get a new one.
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3250 [21:03:07] <greycat> If it's not the disk then life becomes much more interesting.
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3262 [21:06:13] <DeaDSouL> I don't remember i did this: update-alternatives 2016-08-17 12:11:14: run with --quiet --remove rlogin /usr/bin/ssh
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3269 [21:07:21] <DeaDSouL> this too: "update-alternatives 2016-08-17 12:11:14: run with --quiet --remove rcp /usr/bin/ssh" .... are those fine?
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3281 [21:10:06] <DeaDSouL> why all users has the same uid=0 ? replaced-url
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3283 [21:10:41] <greycat> You are so utterly not asking the right questions.
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3287 [21:11:58] <greycat> "Hi pam here someone did something" is not at all the kind of error you want to find. You want to find errors liks "sdd on fire 05 32 e4 5a 78 92" ...
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3289 [21:12:31] <greycat> Or in your case, sda. It's always sdd for me. God damned RAID cabinet sdd.
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3292 [21:13:51] <DeaDSouL> greycat: ok..
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3295 [21:14:44] <perepujal> DeaDSouL: you say you can enter to that box as root in recovery mode, what happens if from there you start sshd service and then try to connect from outside?
3296 [21:14:50] <`Kevin> ^ indeed the only interesting line in that last screenshot is the last one that is cut off but that also doesn't provide anything telling other than likely sshd isnt running anymore
3297 [21:15:10] <`Kevin> which we assumed
3298 [21:15:29] <greycat> Right. The question is *why* was sshd given a SIGTERM.
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3319 [21:22:32] <DeaDSouL> replaced-url
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3323 [21:23:31] <harovali> hi, i'm trying to send data to a network printer using nc . If I issue echo hello | nc 192.168.1.102 9100 aparently it opens the connection without problems and sends the data, but it keeps waiting for input, and does not return. Why is that ? How can that be avoided ?
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3333 [21:27:41] <DeaDSouL> bad target? replaced-url
3334 [21:28:11] <winsen> Hi all
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3336 [21:28:47] <pingfloyd> DeaDSouL: that looks like an old version of libdbus, jessie is at 3.8.13
3337 [21:28:53] <winsen> how can I verify if wicd and networking are both running now on my machine?
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3339 [21:29:33] <winsen> *wicd and network-manger...
3340 [21:29:37] <DeaDSouL> pingfloyd: yes, i'm using wheezy
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3345 [21:30:40] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: didnt your issues start before these log entries thus you rebooted?
3346 [21:30:46] <`Kevin> go back furthe
3347 [21:30:49] <`Kevin> further
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3349 [21:31:12] <greycat> Don't ask #debian to read your logs for you. Find the real, underlying, fundamental errors that are causing the other problems.
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3351 [21:31:41] <gebruiker> greycat: is there support for intel-microcode in deb stable? processor microcode firmware for intel cpu
3352 [21:31:55] <greycat> One useful command is "dmesg | less", and then press Shift-G to jump to the BOTTOM and start reading upward.
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3355 [21:32:14] <greycat> gebruiker: do not isolate one random victim for your questions. Ask the channel as a whole.
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3357 [21:32:38] <gebruiker> greycat: apologies if I made you feel uncomfortable
3358 [21:32:40] <winsen> i am asking this question because I wonder is there is conflict between the two tools? Because it stops after few minutes and I need to refresh or run wicd tool or from networking top right manually?
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3360 [21:33:03] <winsen> hope that makes sense
3361 [21:33:14] <winsen> any clue guys?
3362 [21:33:53] <Serialbox> greycat: i'll read your logs for you. Just give me root on your machine.
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3364 [21:34:18] <pingfloyd> winsen: how come you're using both?
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3366 [21:34:59] <pingfloyd> winsen: they can conflict with each other
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3374 [21:36:29] <winsen> pingfloyed/ I stoped network-manager from 'systemctl' I don't know how can I know where is the problem is they are both runing even though I stoped NM
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3376 [21:37:09] <winsen> if they are...
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3390 [21:42:44] <pingfloyd> winsen: pgrep -a NetworkManager and pgrep -a nm
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3400 [21:45:23] <beloved> How do I kill all fio processes? sudo killall fio do not work for me
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3402 [21:46:05] <greycat> pkill should replace killall in your mental map of the world
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3406 [21:47:11] <beloved> greycat: It didn't kill them either.
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3424 [21:54:47] <DeaDSouL> back...
3425 [21:55:12] <DeaDSouL> please guys help me checking those logs to know what is the problem ? replaced-url
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3436 [21:59:23] <sypher> DeaDSouL: No. Bad. As greycat said, learn to examine your logs for issues.
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3439 [22:00:12] <DeaDSouL> sypher: which file should I start looking at?
3440 [22:00:43] <DeaDSouL> sypher: i can't even tell the correct one from the incorrect statements
3441 [22:00:44] <AgentElrond> With gcc 4.9.2-10 on Debian 8.2, I cannot use the "-fno-sanitize-recover" option (unrecognized command line). Why is this? As far as I can tell, sanitize options should be supported on gcc 4.9.0. I have confirmed the -fsanitize=undefined option works, in contrast.
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3450 [22:01:37] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: you rebooted numerous times after your drive was spewing errors (look at ata1 in kern.log) which also continued after a fsck and then another reboot
3451 [22:01:49] <`Kevin> your drive is dying we cannot help
3452 [22:02:24] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: but the smart says it's ok and passed
3453 [22:02:37] <`Kevin> smart isnt always so smart..
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3455 [22:02:59] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: how can i be sure that the hdd is dying?
3456 [22:03:29] <`Kevin> read the ata1 entries in the kernel log look them up
3457 [22:04:10] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: yes... but once i ran the fsck.ext4... they're gone
3458 [22:04:13] <greycat> ata1? That's... old PATA disks, right? IDE?
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3460 [22:04:28] <Klaus_Dieter> SwK: a/s/l = age/sex/location.
3461 [22:04:46] <Klaus_Dieter> SweetPear: a/s/l = age/sex/location.
3462 [22:04:46] <DeaDSouL> greycat: it's an old laptop used as home server
3463 [22:05:03] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: if a disk is dying fsck isnt going to bring it back to life.. perhaps temporarily/briefly best case scenario
3464 [22:05:20] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Can you show us the output of 'smartctl -A /dev/sdx'? sdx being whatever drive it is you have problems with. → replaced-url
3465 [22:05:27] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: i do have windows on it too. and it's working fine
3466 [22:05:45] <sypher> "fine"
3467 [22:05:59] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: sure, just a sec
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3470 [22:06:23] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: its failing to reallocate bad sectors
3471 [22:06:37] <`Kevin> moving on..
3472 [22:06:39] <DeaDSouL> btw, I'm willing to pay $30 via paypal to anyone helps me solving this problem ...
3473 [22:06:43] <DeaDSouL> brb
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3477 [22:07:19] <sypher> DeaDSouL: Are you serious? BUY A NEW DRIVE. You've been given (spoonfed, even) the answer repeatedly. Stop rejecting it because you don't like it.
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3481 [22:08:13] <petn-randall> sypher: We'll see when they post the smart logs.
3482 [22:08:14] <luxio> Hold up what's his problem?
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3485 [22:08:26] <SwK> Klaus_Dieter, old, sometimes, and where ever I can find it
3486 [22:08:32] <luxio> I don't see where he said what his problem wasm
3487 [22:08:34] <luxio> was*
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3493 [22:08:59] <sypher> luxio: He hasn't at all. He's been begging the channel to read his logs for him and tell him what's wrong with his system.
3494 [22:09:00] <Klaus_Dieter> SwK: sorry, I did not mean to highlight you.
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3496 [22:10:11] <Klaus_Dieter> hi
3497 [22:10:13] <SwK> heh
3498 [22:10:29] <SwK> I had a flashback to the 90s there for a minute
3499 [22:10:51] <babilen> SwK: Likewise ..
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3505 [22:11:13] <winsen> pingfloyed: replaced-url
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3509 [22:12:29] <winsen> pingfloyed: pgrep -a NetworkManager and pgrep -a nm
3510 [22:12:30] <winsen> pgrep: only one pattern can be provided
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3513 [22:12:58] <pingfloyd> winsen: you still have NetworkManager definitely loaded
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3515 [22:13:04] <winsen> any clue guys?
3516 [22:13:30] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: smartctl -H : replaced-url
3517 [22:13:39] <winsen> pingfloyed: networkManager or Network-Manager?
3518 [22:14:04] <pingfloyd> NetworkManager
3519 [22:14:06] <winsen> pingfloyed: I am talking about the software NM
3520 [22:14:13] <pingfloyd> that's the executable's name
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3524 [22:14:55] <pingfloyd> is there a reason you can't just purge the one you don't want to use?
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3528 [22:16:35] <winsen> pingfloyed: well, can you see if wicd is also runing?
3529 [22:16:51] <DeaDSouL> sypher: btw, i had.
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3533 [22:18:09] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: is it dying?
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3535 [22:18:47] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Neither of those links are what I asked for ...
3536 [22:20:28] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: my mistake... i used sda5 while you asked for sda... just a sec
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3539 [22:20:56] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: No, look up exactly what I asked for.
3540 [22:21:07] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Gah, my mistake.
3541 [22:21:21] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: 'smartctl -a /dev/sda'
3542 [22:22:50] <DeaDSouL> ok,... just a sec
3543 [22:22:52] <pingfloyd> winsen: try pgrep -a wicd
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3545 [22:23:39] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: You have 24 pending sectors, which are probably on the Linux part of the drive, and not on the windows side. Which might be might it works 'fine' on Windows.
3546 [22:24:19] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Pending sectors are sectors that have data written on it, but can't be read anymore. That's a hint that the drive might be dying.
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3549 [22:24:59] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: You can run a selftest with 'smartctl -t long /dev/sda', which might take a few hours to finish. If after those hours the number jumped even higher, you should buy a new drive.
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3551 [22:25:37] <pingfloyd> would be nice to see the smartctl -a output
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3553 [22:27:26] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: here bro... A: replaced-url
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3558 [22:28:47] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Yes, your drive is failing on reading the relevant data from the disk.
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3561 [22:29:19] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: Run a long self test and check if that number goes up, but either way you're loosing data, since a pending sector usually won't go away by itself.
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3568 [22:30:42] <pingfloyd> DeaDSouL: have you tried checking the data cable (like swapping it or checking its connection)?
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3570 [22:31:12] <DeaDSouL> pingfloyd: it's in a laptop... but no i didn't
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3572 [22:31:36] <DeaDSouL> well, `Kevin i guess you were right
3573 [22:31:39] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: thanks
3574 [22:31:43] <DeaDSouL> thanks all guys
3575 [22:31:54] <DeaDSouL> I guess I'll buy a new hdd
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3577 [22:32:01] <petn-randall> DeaDSouL: long self test takes a bit over 3 hours on your disk, run it and report back.
3578 [22:32:03] <Pr0metheus> when i installed debian i let the installer do all the partitioning, i see that i have 3 partitions (Filesystem, Extended partition, swap). I don't see the extended partition mounted, does it have a special role or something?
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3581 [22:32:36] <jez9999> hey guys. how difficult is it to upgrade a Squeeze install to a Jessie install, and what are the steps for doing so?
3582 [22:32:51] <greycat> Upgrade to wheezy first, then to jessie.
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3584 [22:32:53] <petn-randall> jez9999: Upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, then from wheezy to jessie.
3585 [22:32:56] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: extended doesn't get mounted, it contains the logical partitions that the FSes would be on
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3587 [22:33:08] <jez9999> petn-randall: hmm, really? why is that necessary
3588 [22:33:10] <petn-randall> jez9999: And read the release notes every time and prepare accordingly.
3589 [22:33:24] <petn-randall> jez9999: Because you can't skip releases.
3590 [22:33:28] <DeaDSouL> petn-randall: that didn't fix my problem.. but warn me to replace the hdd soon
3591 [22:33:28] <jez9999> darn.
3592 [22:33:53] <jez9999> so do i just point my sources at the wheezy repos?
3593 [22:33:55] <petn-randall> jez9999: Why? The upgrade process is one of the best of all distros.
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3597 [22:34:17] <petn-randall> jez9999: The release notes has it all covered.
3598 [22:34:18] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd is 3.3 GB a logical size?
3599 [22:34:35] <pingfloyd> jez9999: yep, but you still should review the release notes in case of caveats
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3601 [22:35:13] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: you tell me, I can't see your disk layout
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3603 [22:35:52] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd: i have 77GB Filesystem, 3.3 GB Extended Partition and 3.3 GB swap
3604 [22:36:20] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: then likely your only logical partition is the swap in this case
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3606 [22:36:33] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: you can see how it's layed out with fdisk though
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3608 [22:37:45] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd i still don't get it, filesystem is mounted, swap is mounted, this extended partition of 3.3GB is not mounted, but what does it hold?
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3611 [22:38:02] <Pr0metheus> i've opened Disks in Gnome
3612 [22:38:08] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: extended partition is just a container for logical partitions
3613 [22:38:40] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: it's how you get past the 4 primary partition limit (make one of them an extended that contains logical partitions)
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3616 [22:39:19] <pingfloyd> Pr0metheus: the extended partition doesn't contain any filesystem itself, it's just the container for all of the logical partitions
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3625 [22:40:35] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd so is thing just empty ?
3626 [22:41:06] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd i mean if it contained the rest then it's size shouldn't be equal or greater then the size of the contained logical partitions?
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3628 [22:42:27] <madsurfman> lo
3629 [22:42:36] <madsurfman> question :
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3633 [22:43:04] <madsurfman> how to install debian on sd card to boot on mac mini?
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3639 [22:45:18] <winsen> pingfloyed: try pgrep -a wicd >bash: try: command not found
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3643 [22:45:30] <greycat> *boggle*
3644 [22:45:36] <pingfloyd> winsen: don't use try as the command
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3646 [22:46:34] <Pr0metheus> pingfloyd: ok i got it, the extended partition contains the swap, thanks for the help
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3651 [22:47:48] <pingfloyd> no problem
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3664 [22:54:13] <Strykar> could someone using squid3 on jessie take a look at my config? squid3 isn't listening on port 3128, on any port for that matter. -replaced-url
3665 [22:55:33] <cflag> Trying to setup distcc on an Arch master -> Debian slave and no matter what I try it fails to distribute. Any ideas?
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3667 [22:56:04] <cflag> Set the hosts in all the config files I can find in the docs, but Arch and Debian distcc seem very different.
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3675 [22:57:52] <Elronnd> What's the difference between DVD-1, 2, and 3.iso?
3676 [22:57:56] <Elronnd> and which one do I want?
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3678 [22:58:17] <cflag> Elronnd, Do you have a network connection on the PC you are installing to?
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3680 [22:58:24] <Elronnd> cflag: yes
3681 [22:58:41] <cflag> The netinstall iso on the frontpage is the easiest.
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3683 [22:59:05] <cflag> The DVD iso's are in the event that you don't have a network.
3684 [22:59:07] <unborn> netinstall is best option
3685 [22:59:34] <cflag> replaced-url
3686 [22:59:42] <Elronnd> I'm installing stretch
3687 [22:59:56] <cflag> Change the repos to point at strech when you boot the CD.
3688 [22:59:59] <Elronnd> Which isn't there
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3690 [23:00:22] <Elronnd> cflag: wait, it lets you load a shell before it does its thing?
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3694 [23:00:36] <cflag> Yup, iirc it's under Advanced Installation
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3698 [23:01:10] <Elronnd> cool
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3703 [23:02:39] <unborn> Elronnd: replaced-url
3704 [23:02:44] <unborn> or you can use that..
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3708 [23:03:17] <unborn> that is exactly netinstall replaced-url
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3743 [23:15:43] <leba2> I'm still having the problem with ntp.
3744 [23:15:45] <leba2> This time I summarized all my commands in a pastebin
3745 [23:15:47] <leba2> replaced-url
3746 [23:16:00] <leba2> Errors in lines 70.79 are the ones
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3748 [23:16:19] <gebruiker> I want to install liqourix kernel, and I am running stable. It depends on gcc-5
3749 [23:16:24] <gebruiker> does mixing stable and unstable repisotories work?
3750 [23:16:41] <babilen> We strongly advice against mixing stable and unstable
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3756 [23:17:39] <gebruiker> babilen, i would like to install the liqourix kernel, is there no other choice than the upgrade to sid?
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3758 [23:18:18] <babilen> Why do you need that kernel?
3759 [23:18:56] <gebruiker> for gaming workloads
3760 [23:19:10] <gebruiker> also general desktop use
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3762 [23:20:27] <babilen> I'd advice against it and would just stay on stable with backports. You could grab a 4.6 kernel from jessie-backports, but if you desperately need liquirix then .. well .. use a platform that comes with gcc-5
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3765 [23:21:17] <gebruiker> could you elaborate why you advise against liqourix ?
3766 [23:21:40] <petn-randall> gebruiker: Less tested, and you need to depend on their security support.
3767 [23:22:05] <petn-randall> gebruiker: I doubt that you will notice any different with a double-blind study in real-life scenarios.
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3770 [23:24:28] <petn-randall> If even phoronix only benchmarked a few percent in either direction, I doubt theres any difference if you'd do proper benchmarks.
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3791 [23:35:46] <meoww> s03153
3792 [23:35:50] <meoww> RIPPPPPPPPPPP
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3822 [23:44:08] <Kylie13> Hello. :) I'm looking for someone that can upload the untouched Debian 8.5 wallpapers straight from the OS. :)
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3845 [23:53:11] <sharkman> how do i make a program start up from upgrade-rc.d as a user NOT as root
3846 [23:54:03] <wsky> su for instance
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3848 [23:55:17] <gebruiker> why is there no glrx-driver in testing or sid?
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3855 [23:58:09] <babilen> gebruiker: What would that driver be for?
3856 [23:58:18] <babilen> Are you referring to fglrx?
3857 [23:58:43] <gebruiker> yes babilen, fglrx drive for ATI
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3859 [23:58:53] <babilen> Well, you said glrx :
3860 [23:58:55] <babilen> )
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