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0 [00:00:12] <jelly> vboxuser, show the actual output in a pastebin, please
1 [00:00:15] <jelly> !paste
2 [00:00:15] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
3 [00:00:28] <vboxuser> okay ha, I cannot copy the outputs to a pastebin..
4 [00:00:38] <vboxuser> yes thank you. would have used pastebin
5 [00:00:43] <jelly> can you make a screenshot?
6 [00:00:54] <vboxuser> yes that should work
7 [00:00:57] <jelly> imgur or picpaste
8 [00:01:28] <jelly> "dmesg|grep eth" and "ip a"
9 [00:01:52] <jelly> and "ip r" while you're at it
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18 [00:08:33] <vboxuser> here is dmesg for eth
19 [00:08:33] <vboxuser> gnome-screenshot
20 [00:08:35] <vboxuser> sorry
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23 [00:09:19] <jmcnaught> vboxuser: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules doesn't exist on VMs in Debian starting with jessie
24 [00:09:33] <vboxuser> i see
25 [00:09:36] <vboxuser> thanks for the info
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30 [00:10:56] <vboxuser2> imgur.com/a/0eTH1
31 [00:11:04] <vboxuser2> output of dmesg for eth
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34 [00:12:32] <vboxuser> no output for "ip a"
35 [00:12:49] <vboxuser> oh there is
36 [00:12:49] <jelly> interesting.
37 [00:12:50] <vboxuser> one sec
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39 [00:13:34] <vboxuser2> replaced-url
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42 [00:14:00] <vboxuser2> I use vbox since years. I never had this issue..
43 [00:14:11] <vboxuser2> export/import always works like a charm
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45 [00:14:29] <vboxuser2> only differnce maybe is jessie 8.3 8.4 now 8.5
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48 [00:15:03] <jelly> so the VM thinks there's no link up
49 [00:15:32] <jelly> that sounds like a hypervisor or VM config issue
50 [00:15:37] <vboxuser2> yes. over @ #vbox they said its because of the mac address change
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56 [00:15:57] <vboxuser2> the configs are identical to the two original working guest VM's
57 [00:16:03] <jelly> the mac address change would have caused the IP address not to be set up at all
58 [00:16:20] <jelly> however the ipv4 address seems to be configured.
59 [00:16:30] <vboxuser2> yes its configired static
60 [00:16:49] <vboxuser2> configured to 10.152.152.10 and 10.152.152.12
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62 [00:17:00] <jelly> without additional info, I'd say you need to check the vm options.
63 [00:17:17] <vboxuser2> believe me I checke them all :=
64 [00:17:22] <vboxuser2> dozens of times
65 [00:17:34] <format_c> ethtool eth0
66 [00:17:46] <vboxuser2> actually I tried to clone the VM's as well and same issue
67 [00:17:54] <format_c> This would show the status IP protocol independet
68 [00:17:59] <vboxuser2> of course the originals have been shut down
69 [00:18:05] <vboxuser2> okay checking
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71 [00:18:22] <vboxuser2> ethtool is not installed
72 [00:18:27] <vboxuser2> its the netinstall minimal
73 [00:18:39] <jelly> and it's probably not going to show a lot on the emulated e1000
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75 [00:19:05] <format_c> and "ip link" ?
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77 [00:19:47] <jelly> ip a already shows NO-CARRIER
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79 [00:19:56] <vboxuser2> replaced-url
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82 [00:20:55] <vboxuser2> my client will kill me haha. This is my weird issue of the year ;)
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84 [00:21:17] <format_c> Yes. Can only be a hypervisor config thing.
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87 [00:21:49] <vboxuser2> okay I will try to purge virtualbox and install th version before where it was working.
88 [00:21:53] <vboxuser2> will report back asap
89 [00:21:56] <vboxuser2> thank you for your help
90 [00:22:09] <format_c> However, I find it challenging setting up virtual box in a way guests behaving this way.
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92 [00:22:24] <jelly> vboxuser2, you can try to show the vm network config to the vbox people
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125 [00:40:43] <vysag> I've got three (not the newest) laptops with optical drives. How do I find out which one is the best to use for converting cda to flac?
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127 [00:42:11] <jelly> (vboxuser2 apparently had the same mac address on multiple configured VM guests, and unsurprisingly VM host solution doesn't like that very much)
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129 [00:42:13] <arha> uh, only cpu matters for that
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134 [00:42:36] <vysag> arha: no, optical drives have diffs in precision
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136 [00:43:08] <arha> nah, CD-A is pretty much a standard. 48k sample rate, 2 channels, 16 bit resolution
137 [00:43:18] <jelly> vysag, if you care... none are, find an old scsi plextor burner and old scsi controller :-)
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139 [00:43:55] <vysag> jelly: I've already thought about buying a good USB optical drive. Any hints?
140 [00:43:57] <transhuman> hi I would like to get a few nvidia packages running on debian if possible running jessie replaced-url
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142 [00:44:17] <arha> shouldn't you get pretty much the same output if you rip to raw different copies of the same cd with different units
143 [00:44:17] <vboxuser> i think i found it
144 [00:44:19] <vboxuser> veryfying
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146 [00:44:42] <jelly> arha, reading cd audio yields different offsets and errors are handled in subtly different ways on different devices
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148 [00:45:20] <jelly> cdparanoia tries to deal with the latter but can't fix the initial offset
149 [00:45:22] <Akuw> i need SDL to Super Nintendo Emulador
150 [00:45:28] <arha> offsets?
151 [00:45:31] <Akuw> what repository have that?
152 [00:45:37] <vysag> jelly, is there any short-term solution to find out which of the three drives is least worse?
153 [00:45:44] <arha> i understand the errors in a way
154 [00:46:07] <jelly> arha, a couple dozen-hundred bits at the start
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156 [00:46:39] <jelly> vysag, try all and look at the differences?
157 [00:47:06] <vysag> jelly: okay
158 [00:47:08] <arha> i'd go the other way, encode a CDA with a known waveform
159 [00:47:15] <arha> something like 60 minutes of a sine
160 [00:47:20] <arha> read it back, see how much it deviates
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162 [00:47:37] <arha> actually, just mirror the original and diff with the readback one
163 [00:47:42] <jelly> that's how people found out about the offsets.
164 [00:47:44] <arha> it should cancel perfectly out...
165 [00:47:53] <vysag> arha: I'd first have to burn it perfectly
166 [00:48:16] <arha> like cd printing houses do
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169 [00:49:26] <arha> jelly: what's the deal with the offsets though?
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171 [00:49:32] <arha> are they more than blanks?
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173 [00:50:02] <jelly> I don't remember whether there were just zeroes or random garbage at the beginning
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175 [00:50:15] <jelly> it was 15, maybe 20 years back
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177 [00:51:02] <vysag> jelly, have there applications been implemented that compare two flac files and tell which has the better quality or do I have the check against the original each?
178 [00:51:10] <jelly> annoying if you have to cut audio tracks precisely and there are no gaps, tho
179 [00:51:11] <mirak> hi
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182 [00:51:57] <arha> vysag, the thing is, how do you define 'quality' beyond the point of being unable to hear it
183 [00:51:58] <mirak> when I insert a usb key it's automatically mounted. I would like to repartition the usb key, but when I unmount, the device also disapear
184 [00:52:16] <mirak> is there a way to have the device appear again without beeing mounted ?
185 [00:52:20] <jelly> vysag, for the most part you won't see a difference in quality. There may be errors, and a small difference in the beginning of actual track audio.
186 [00:52:20] <vysag> arha: by measuring jitter, etc... There are ways
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188 [00:52:46] <jelly> s/see/have/;
189 [00:52:51] <arha> yeah but so is a recording at 192k
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192 [00:53:15] <arha> i'm sorta curious where you're going with this, being a bit interested in sound engineering myself
193 [00:53:32] <jelly> mirak, unmount it very carefully from the command line?
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197 [00:53:51] <mirak> jelly: it fails silently
198 [00:54:08] <mirak> jelly: it only works through nautilus eject button
199 [00:54:11] <jelly> mirak, are you doing the umount as root?
200 [00:54:22] <mirak> jelly: yes, root and user
201 [00:54:46] <jelly> mirak, and "df" or "mount" shows the mountpoint afterwards?
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203 [00:54:53] <vysag> arha: it's something special. I was at a brain institute which checked my brainwaves and then created an audio CD on which there are sounds that should have a positive effect on my psyche
204 [00:54:54] <mirak> yes
205 [00:55:07] <mirak> vysag: lol
206 [00:55:27] <jelly> mirak, I guess it's possible the gnome automounter just mounts it back right away
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209 [00:55:46] <mirak> jelly: ok, maybe I can kill the process
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212 [00:55:57] <jelly> mirak, log off, log in at the console, see how that fares?
213 [00:55:59] <arha> vysag: how do you know they don't have a bunch of mp3s they burn selectively to the cd? o_O
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217 [00:56:18] <mirak> jelly: it should work yes, but I wanted to use gparted
218 [00:56:30] <arha> did you meditate?
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220 [00:56:32] <mirak> so i will do in console with fdisk probably
221 [00:56:35] <vysag> arha, they told me they don't and that I should either hear from the CD or convert it into an uncompressed format.
222 [00:56:37] <arha> or what did they make you do?
223 [00:56:57] <jelly> mirak, hm. You can still just wipe the partition table from the console, then go back to GUI
224 [00:57:00] <vysag> arha: I can't meditate because I cannot cool down my mind
225 [00:57:08] <arha> oh.
226 [00:57:10] <arha> ADD?
227 [00:57:25] <arha> i sorta did something like that, long time ago.
228 [00:57:40] <vysag> arha, why have you stopped?
229 [00:57:48] <arha> binaural beats, there are some linux tools for it. different freqs in each ear heterodyne in your mind to a beat
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231 [00:57:54] <arha> didn't really work
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234 [00:58:12] <jelly> vysag, eh, if it's fresh media just try ripping it with any device
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236 [00:58:24] <arha> but did they burn it perfectly? :D
237 [00:58:35] <arha> vysag: curious about it now. what do they sound like?
238 [00:59:01] <mirak> jelly: yes you are right, it should not be mounted
239 [00:59:06] <mirak> if there is nothing to mount
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245 [01:00:34] <vysag> arha: have not yet listened to it. But here's who did it: replaced-url
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247 [01:02:44] <arha> huh
248 [01:02:47] <arha> they have a study on that
249 [01:02:49] <arha> dx.doi.org/10.1080/13546805.2013.879054
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251 [01:03:23] <vysag> jelly: yes, will rip it tomorrow. What Plextor drive would you suggest?
252 [01:03:53] <vysag> arha: yes, I am autistic and my two brains are not synchronized for which the CD should help
253 [01:03:55] <arha> why not ask the guys for the files, tbh
254 [01:03:57] <M-alex_mayorga> ¡Hola! How do I extract photos from a camera in Debian?
255 [01:04:05] <arha> just tell them you have nothing with a cd player around
256 [01:04:20] <arha> not too far feteched today, cds are already old
257 [01:04:29] <vysag> M-alex_mayorga: you can usually just copy the files...
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259 [01:04:56] <M-alex_mayorga> vysag (IRC): Let me raprhase, what's the photo manager of choice in Debian?
260 [01:05:06] <vysag> arha: what you think they gonna do? Send me a USB-stick with the file?
261 [01:05:21] <M-alex_mayorga> vysag (IRC): Looking for f-spot, but it seems it is a no go per replaced-url
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263 [01:05:36] <arha> download link?
264 [01:05:55] <arha> still, ha, pretty interesting
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266 [01:06:40] <arha> it's a bit odd that if you google 'brain rhythm anomalies' it keeps pointing back to their study, but fascinating, nevertheless
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271 [01:08:40] <vysag> M-alex_mayorga: sorry, I don't have experience with such programs. But this might help: replaced-url
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276 [01:09:39] <vysag> arha, you mean googling that points to the link you posted?
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278 [01:11:04] <M-alex_mayorga> How come F-spot is not on Debian GNOME eventhough it is the GNOME default per replaced-url
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283 [01:13:22] <jelly> vysag, no idea. Google suggests replaced-url
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286 [01:16:19] <vysag> jelly, thanks
287 [01:16:53] <vysag> arha, maybe I might really ask them whether they could provide the raw file
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290 [01:18:04] <vysag> jelly, these are old drives not to be found anymore :(
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293 [01:19:53] <jelly> vysag, yes, that's going to be a problem. Noone uses cds any more.
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300 [01:21:36] <vysag> jelly: at least high-quality drives for reading are still needed!
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302 [01:21:46] <vysag> jelly, CDs and DVDs
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305 [01:22:06] <KaiserAres> hi ive a small problem im running jessie and i want to install openjdk 8. sudo spt-get install openjdk-8-jdk just leaves me with a package missing error. anyone got a suggestion
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320 [01:26:13] <jelly> ,v openjdk-8-jdk
321 [01:26:14] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jdk on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u102-b14.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 8u102-b14.1-2; stretch: 8u102-b14.1-2
322 [01:26:30] <jelly> dpkg, tell KaiserAres about jessie-backports
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356 [01:41:11] <arha> vysag: maybe
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358 [01:41:32] <arha> and if you do and/or rip them, can you drop me a pm here? I'm really interested in neurosci stuff
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360 [01:42:02] <arha> also, if you like this field and music, check up daniel levitin
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373 [01:50:53] <vysag> arha: okay, I will tell you these days when I have listened to it
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376 [01:52:56] <vysag> arha, thanks for the hint on Livitin
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380 [01:55:58] <vysag> arha, Daniel Levitin: How to stay calm when you know you'll be stressed: replaced-url
381 [01:56:09] <arha> he has a few books
382 [01:56:13] <arha> this is your brain on music is one
383 [01:56:21] <arha> sort of popsci
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385 [01:56:32] <arha> and another one, much more scientific, dealing with information overload
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388 [01:57:12] <arha> that is the ted with the forgotten passport, isn't it?
389 [01:58:09] <transhuman> hi I am close (1 package away from getting this working unfortunately even though libboost for ubuntu packages are close they are not exactly the same 1.54 vs 1.55 I cant seem to get the packages correct enough to run nvidias digits api...anyone have any ideas?
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391 [01:58:58] <transhuman> 1.55 exists in debian 1.54 is the required versions
392 [01:59:27] <vysag> arha, I'm gonna sleep now. I would contact you in a couple of days when I have listened to the CD. Are you always connected or only on specific times.
393 [01:59:38] <vysag> ??
394 [02:00:01] <arha> i'm always conencted here
395 [02:00:09] <arha> i might not reply, but i get the messages anyway
396 [02:00:22] <arha> i will reply eventually when we're both online
397 [02:00:44] <vysag> arha, good, bye
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401 [02:01:15] <arha> good, goodbye
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429 [02:20:07] <ZitZ> if i have multiple subkeys for my mobile devices, which key do i have signed at a keysigning party?
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431 [02:20:41] <epsilon> primary key
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433 [02:21:06] <ZitZ> how does that work then?
434 [02:21:15] <epsilon> it's about to confirm your identity, not all your sukeys
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437 [02:22:04] <ZitZ> i see, so while i can upload all my subkeys to the keyserver, the primary public key is still what confirms my identity
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439 [02:22:33] <ZitZ> and i sign the subkey with my primary key
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441 [02:24:41] <epsilon> yea, people will confirm your identity, after that it's up to you to sign whatever
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445 [02:27:24] <ZitZ> and they will send me back my public key, signed, using their private key, after they download it from the keyserver
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447 [02:27:33] <ZitZ> so there is no need to bring your secret private key to the party
448 [02:27:37] <ZitZ> i think i get it
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450 [02:29:42] <internat> i probably should get a key one day
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458 [02:37:59] <Hi||ary> alright, why does pcengines tell me that I have to use their stupid tinycore linux rather than debian to flash the bios on a pcengines APU2?
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462 [02:38:29] <Hi||ary> and why are they right?
463 [02:38:40] <Hi||ary> why doesn't flashrom work on my APU from Debian?
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465 [02:39:30] * Hi||ary rages at PCEngines.ch/howto.htm
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469 [02:41:54] <Hi||ary> flashrom -w apu2_160311.rom -p internal
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471 [02:42:36] <Hi||ary> "FCH device found but SMBus revision 0x42 does not match known values."
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475 [02:47:15] <amir107> guys look this video it helped me with windows 10 update it is better than the other one replaced-url
476 [02:47:18] <amir107> sorry wrong channel
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492 [02:58:12] <Hi||ary> amir107, how embarassing.
493 [02:58:33] <abrotman> it was clearly spam, ignore it
494 [03:00:05] <Hi||ary> oic
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528 [03:20:30] <ceon> Hi
529 [03:20:55] <ceon> I tried to install some software with winw in debian 8
530 [03:21:04] <ceon> wine
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532 [03:21:15] <ceon> worked fine
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534 [03:21:43] <ceon> but the F*** Windows Software can not import files
535 [03:21:54] <ceon> like *.bmp or stuff
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537 [03:22:18] <missmbob> try #winehq
538 [03:22:24] <ceon> not supportet format?
539 [03:22:37] <ceon> whats this, ji ?
540 [03:22:39] <ceon> hi
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542 [03:23:00] <ceon> I ll google it thanks
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545 [03:23:38] <ceon> The software needs a lotta Microsoft Net libaries ..
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547 [03:23:58] <missmbob> ceon: it's an irc channel. type /j #winehq
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552 [03:26:19] <ceon> und?
553 [03:27:01] <ceon> I hope u are better than me
554 [03:27:17] <ceon> I carry heart on tongue
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556 [03:28:09] <ceon> in all worlds are some missmbob's
557 [03:28:29] <ceon> or other judges and politicans
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559 [03:28:47] <ceon> much luck :-)
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563 [03:29:37] <ceon> I di not know you and you do not jnow me
564 [03:29:46] <ceon> but one is for sure
565 [03:29:51] <ceon> I love Debian
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568 [03:30:32] <ceon> since 15 years I was admin
569 [03:30:40] <ceon> for windows
570 [03:30:47] <ceon> unfortunatly I got sick
571 [03:31:02] <ceon> now I have time for my love ;-)
572 [03:31:28] <ceon> maybe I m a Dau
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574 [03:31:40] <ceon> but at least I got visisons ...
575 [03:32:09] <TomTomTosch> #winehq is still the best place for your question.
576 [03:32:30] <missmbob> i tried
577 [03:32:56] <ceon> I had a real question please
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579 [03:33:01] <TomTomTosch> yeah, but this was going some place weird.
580 [03:33:12] <ceon> I got two monitors
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582 [03:33:27] <missmbob> TomTomTosch: oh...already on /ignore
583 [03:33:28] <ceon> and its the Pest they are running usually overa KVM
584 [03:33:52] <ceon> what ever is their any new after xrandr?
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586 [03:34:05] <ceon> Debian 8
587 [03:34:28] <TomTomTosch> nothing wrong with xrandr. arandr if you want a gui frontend.
588 [03:34:59] <ceon> I would love to have it not random
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590 [03:35:08] <TomTomTosch> heh
591 [03:35:21] <ceon> but Im rather a newbie
592 [03:35:26] <ceon> so excuse
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594 [03:36:19] <TomTomTosch> xrandr - X resize and rotate :P
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596 [03:36:27] <ceon> I tried to work first time with wine and some embroiderysoftware
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598 [03:37:14] <ceon> Beliefe me TomTom I try everything befor I knee down open the Hardware lol*
599 [03:37:26] <ceon> Got a bad back
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601 [03:38:05] <ceon> But if u say xrandr is cool
602 [03:38:18] <ceon> I will try tommorow a little
603 [03:38:47] <ceon> Mine debian is like mine pumpkins
604 [03:38:53] <ceon> stubborn ;-)
605 [03:39:22] <ceon> they are never grow along the help :-)
606 [03:39:51] <ceon> Thanks
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646 [04:25:18] <ceon> so ist das
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655 [04:33:06] <i_need_new_nick> phy1729: suck a dong
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658 [04:33:17] <i_need_new_nick> phy1729: your mom is a whorebag
659 [04:33:20] <i_need_new_nick> themill: butt out
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662 [04:33:34] <themill> i_need_new_nick: play elsewhere
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675 [04:42:17] <teegee> anyone know if schroot can be used to avoid, e.g. 64-bit with 32-bit USB driver issues?
676 [04:42:21] <teegee> or will those persist?
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689 [05:00:52] <themill> teegee: you might need to explain that a bit more
690 [05:02:20] <ephemer0l> Hey, all. Looking for advice on how to add *one* package from unstable. And after adding the unstable repo, will that automagicly trigger updates for all available packages when apt-get upgrade is ran?
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693 [05:02:48] <themill> ephemer0l: which package is it you're looking for?
694 [05:03:08] <ephemer0l> themill: helping someone with an odroid, and I need g++
695 [05:03:23] <ephemer0l> they are on Debian 8 currently
696 [05:03:25] <themill> that's not a good plan (and you'll need plenty more than g++)
697 [05:03:40] <ephemer0l> heh, so dist-upgrade, then?
698 [05:03:59] <themill> they're certainly not going to thank you for dumping them on sid
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701 [05:04:14] * ephemer0l ponders
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703 [05:04:44] <ephemer0l> well, thanks for your wisdom and insight themill. I'll convey the news. Be well.
704 [05:04:47] <teegee> I am trying to run a program which can grab a screenshot from an oscilloscope, which can be connected via TCPIP or USB. The site says that the TCPIP connection will work, but the USB one will be much faster -- but it "doesn't work on 64-bit systems"
705 [05:04:54] <Leah0> i'm trying to mount a USB as -o rw, but it keeps telling me it is write protected. it's not a hardware issue. it's the fact that the partition is write protected. how can I fix this?
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707 [05:05:11] <teegee> I think it might use the usbtmc driver, which evidently has a good 32-bit implementation but no or a bad 64-bit one, I'm not sure yet.
708 [05:05:22] <teegee> i was wondering if this could surely be solved by running the program inside a 32-bit schroot.
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710 [05:05:33] <teegee> if indeed it's a driver-like issue.
711 [05:06:09] <themill> ephemer0l: do you really need g++ 6?
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713 [05:06:41] <ephemer0l> themill: unfortunately
714 [05:07:20] <themill> teegee: if it's truly a kernel level "driver" then a chroot isn't going to help you but then there's also no reason why it should be arch-specific like that
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716 [05:07:38] <themill> teegee: got a URL for this beast?
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718 [05:07:46] <teegee> themill: sure, use google translate.
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720 [05:08:17] <ephemer0l> themill: g++-arm-linux-gnueabi is what I'm after
721 [05:08:33] <teegee> themill: replaced-url
722 [05:08:39] <teegee> themill: that's the program.
723 [05:09:00] <themill> ephemer0l: ahh, cross-compiling can be done other ways if GCC 6 is not actually a requirement
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726 [05:09:40] <ephemer0l> themill: how tough is it to cross compile and create a .deb?
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729 [05:10:53] <themill> teegee: I'm not seeing anything there about linux
730 [05:11:11] <teegee> themill: yeah, curious, the page i remember had linux on it. one second
731 [05:11:43] <ephemer0l> themill: found this... replaced-url
732 [05:11:51] <themill> ephemer0l: my preferred approach is to use qemu to emulate it or do it on a compatible device. There are also ways of doing it directly
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735 [05:12:46] <teegee> themill: huh. it appears he simply stripped the page of linux
736 [05:12:49] <teegee> replaced-url
737 [05:13:22] <teegee> anyway, that is a theoretical question about it. I have an operation question.
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739 [05:13:48] <teegee> How the heck do I boot a 32-bit schroot inside 64-bit? To get bash I need some /lib, but all of my /lib is 64-bit.
740 [05:13:56] <teegee> people say 'copy it over' but that seems wrong.
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742 [05:14:27] <themill> teegee: when you build the chroot, all of that is done for you; the necessary libraries are inside the chroot
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744 [05:14:40] <teegee> themill: except I can't start it because bash fails to start
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748 [05:15:29] <ephemer0l> there is no multilib support?
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754 [05:17:04] <themill> teegee: how did you create the chroot?
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759 [05:17:15] <teegee> themill: yep, one second. i recorded that, I think.
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762 [05:18:49] <themill> (debootstrap --arch i386 should dtrt; you shoudln't need the libc6:i386 packages on the host)
763 [05:19:12] <teegee> originally i tried that
764 [05:19:16] <teegee> then i did --variant=buildd
765 [05:19:26] <teegee> i think i was going to try --variant=minbase next
766 [05:20:01] <teegee> so the full command was: udo debootstrap --arch i386 precise /media/sde1/chroot/precise_i386 --variant=buildd
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769 [05:20:36] <teegee> is no /bin/bash directory inside chroot. Make sure you point it to where bash (or other shell's) executable is in chroot directory.
770 [05:20:39] <teegee> err
771 [05:20:43] <teegee> i am getting errors like this:
772 [05:20:46] <teegee> replaced-url
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782 [05:25:48] <teegee> themill: I am more or less following the script outlined here: replaced-url
783 [05:25:57] <teegee> themill: if you see any steps that would cause a problem, let me know
784 [05:27:22] <pencilandpaper> teegee are you just trying to make a script executable?
785 [05:27:45] <teegee> pencilandpaper: no, it runs fine. but it fails to detect a USB device that's there.
786 [05:27:58] <teegee> pencilandpaper: but the command that's failing is shcroot -c precise_i386
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788 [05:28:09] <teegee> oh, wait, perhaps i'm a total idiot.
789 [05:28:24] <haxx0r> who
790 [05:28:26] <teegee> lol. it's not failing. i'm in the prefix (precise_i386)
791 [05:29:04] <pencilandpaper> So did you get it working ok then?
792 [05:29:08] <teegee> i'm not sure.
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795 [05:29:20] <teegee> uname -a is i686, that's not a good sign.
796 [05:29:27] <teegee> oh, yes it is.
797 [05:29:41] <teegee> themill: le sigh. let me stop talking and start trying to progress. thanks for the help
798 [05:29:41] <pencilandpaper> Cool. :)
799 [05:29:44] <teegee> pencilandpaper: you too.
800 [05:29:54] <pencilandpaper> Yw teegee..have fun man.
801 [05:30:16] <themill> teegee: ;)
802 [05:30:25] <teegee> well now I have to try to install all of the deps
803 [05:31:13] <teegee> oops, sudo isn't right...
804 [05:32:26] <pencilandpaper> What depends are you trying to install, and for what teegee?
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807 [05:32:50] <teegee> pencilandpaper: just enough to run this program: replaced-url
808 [05:32:53] <teegee> so gtk, things like that
809 [05:33:06] <pencilandpaper> Ok, and .deb's?
810 [05:33:16] <teegee> yep, I assume that stuff will just work right
811 [05:33:46] <pencilandpaper> Ok, then go su root..and then run: dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
812 [05:34:01] <teegee> yeah, i can't SU root, i don't think I set a passowrd.
813 [05:34:03] <teegee> sudo isn't working
814 [05:34:05] <pencilandpaper> If you type the first few letters of the package name and hit tab it should complete it for you.
815 [05:34:28] <pencilandpaper> sudo su?
816 [05:34:42] <teegee> sudo anything will fail. one sec.
817 [05:34:55] <pencilandpaper> And you can't enter: su root
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819 [05:35:06] <teegee> I can, but I don't know the password for root, because I have never set one.
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822 [05:35:32] <pencilandpaper> Try root, and see if it works.
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825 [05:36:16] <teegee> oh, i see, if I start the schroot as root, I can be root.
826 [05:37:05] <pencilandpaper> Ok, but what does that have to do with installing the depends. Can you do that?
827 [05:37:11] <teegee> pencilandpaper: about to find out
828 [05:37:15] <pencilandpaper> Cool. :)
829 [05:37:41] <themill> teegee: for getting root in the chroot, remember that you can schroot -u root
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831 [05:37:59] <teegee> themill: ok. evidently just su - outside, or sudo schroot works too
832 [05:38:04] <teegee> little surprised at that, but whatever
833 [05:38:20] <pencilandpaper> Brb, I am going to go and restart real quick.
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837 [05:40:23] <teegee> lol, i love it when you install one package and it has like 200 deps
838 [05:40:44] <teegee> well that's not a good error
839 [05:40:45] <teegee> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-base_5.14.2-6ubuntu2.5_i386.deb (--unpack): symbolic link '/usr/share/man/man1/perl5.14.2.1.gz' size has changed from 26 to 9
840 [05:40:45] <dpkg> teegee: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
841 [05:41:17] <teegee> well that's a funny bot response
842 [05:41:25] <themill> it's true too
843 [05:41:30] <themill> you quite probably don't want to install recommended packages inside the chroot; when it comes to ubuntu packages inside your chroot, you'll need to ask #ubuntu
844 [05:42:36] <teegee> oh, i'm ubuntu on the outside too, but I figured schroot was a debian thing
845 [05:42:45] <themill> grr
846 [05:42:58] <teegee> in the sense that debian people would understand it
847 [05:43:01] <teegee> and ubuntu people might
848 [05:43:04] <teegee> (not)
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868 [05:55:22] <fff> Do nividia cards run better than amd cards on linux?
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871 [05:55:47] <ShamblerGmx> Hello, Debian! May be I don't understand something, but looks like this CVE-2016-5696 is very dangerous vulnerability and looks likes nobody fix it yet: replaced-url
872 [05:55:50] <teegee> fff: are you trying to start a fire?
873 [05:56:07] <teegee> themill: it looks like this latest error is actually me stupidly trying to do this onto NTFS (shame on me)
874 [05:56:53] <ShamblerGmx> My question is: It's really dangerous? If yes, why it's not fixed?
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882 [05:59:30] <_rubik> ShamblerGmx: Oh shit. Thanks for pointing this out. I'm not sure how much I personally can do about it, but we should certainly look into it.
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885 [06:00:48] <_rubik> ShamblerGmx: Wait it looks like Linus himself tried his hand at fixing this.
886 [06:00:51] <_rubik> replaced-url
887 [06:02:03] <ShamblerGmx> _rubik, I may be wrong, but this bug in tcp/ip stack allow to modify data in unencrypted connections and break any another connections. This is proof of concept: replaced-url
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889 [06:02:23] <themill> ShamblerGmx: the relevant patch has already been included by the maintainers in the next upload
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892 [06:04:11] <ShamblerGmx> _rubik, Yes, Linus himself fix it in 4.7 kernel, but in Debian/Centos looks like this bug exists...
893 [06:04:36] <ShamblerGmx> themill, Oh, thank you. When it will be ready for update? And can it be fixed in wheezy?
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899 [06:09:22] <themill> already fixed for wheezy in git too
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912 [06:19:27] <Leah0> i'm used to systemd. how can I get a script to *properly* run on boot (iptables script)? NOTE: I do not have access to the system while it is ONLINE, only when it is offline. So I can't pass commands -- other than by modifying files.
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917 [06:25:43] <ShamblerGmx> themill, I'm sorry, that bother you, but what is "in git"? Is it means, that we will just wait and new kernel update will be available in apt as usual?
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919 [06:26:16] <themill> yes
920 [06:26:55] <ShamblerGmx> themill, Thank you.
921 [06:26:57] <themill> The patches were applied to the source 37 hours ago; when the new packages actually get produced I don't know. Kernel updates are such a pain for everyone they tend to get clumped
922 [06:27:37] <Leah0> i presume rc.local is where I should add my script, in sysvinit?
923 [06:27:50] <ShamblerGmx> So, thank you for your work, peoples, it's awesome.
924 [06:27:56] <themill> ShamblerGmx: replaced-url
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926 [06:28:37] <ShamblerGmx> themill, I'll keep it in my mind.
927 [06:28:49] <Leah0> what does "in order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits" mean?
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942 [06:52:37] <StoBrendo> hi there. Could fltk 1.3 be installed through apt?
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948 [06:54:28] <StoBrendo> ok nvm, it is libfltk1.3
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983 [07:34:33] <Ryuken> I'm getting [405272.704745] Out of memory in UB 45713: OOM killed process 19754 (npm) score 0 vm:1307620kB, rss:110136kB, swap:25328kB
984 [07:34:38] <Ryuken> How do I change my swap?
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994 [07:40:43] <jmcnaught> Ryuken: what do you want to change about your swap?
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1008 [07:50:16] <bibble> "nr_pdflush_threads exported in /proc is scheduled for removal"
1009 [07:50:20] <bibble> "sysctl: The scan_unevictable_pages sysctl/node-interface has been disabled for lack of a legitimate use case. If you have one, please send an email to linux-mm@kvack.org."
1010 [07:50:39] <bibble> Just had those kernal messages... not sure if OK ?
1011 [07:52:50] <bibble> Have altered '/etc/sysctl.conf' to forward IPv4 for OpenVPN... maybe related.. ?
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1027 [08:21:21] <Leah0> how can I escape qemu?
1028 [08:21:27] <Leah0> i'm in it via ssh
1029 [08:21:34] <Leah0> -curses
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1109 [09:21:04] <ochiottes> Good morning
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1111 [09:22:20] <ochiottes> How will I get a list of all the linux kernel source files used to configure and compile my current debian kernel?
1112 [09:23:36] <ochiottes> I don't want those listed which aren't used
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1115 [09:25:24] <Lowl3v3l> ochiottes, you can't know directly from the kernel executable
1116 [09:25:56] <ochiottes> yes
1117 [09:26:00] <Lowl3v3l> ochiottes, you COULD ask the package maintainer to get the .config and try working from there, though this will be really difficult
1118 [09:26:32] <Lowl3v3l> ochiottes, you can exclude some directories without a problem, but... it will be hard^^
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1131 [09:37:50] <ochiottes> I reckon this is an important question that probably has been discussed before
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1152 [09:55:47] <jim> I notice the xwayland doesn't come with a man page for the executable Xwayland... are there docs? and if so where can I find them?
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1235 [11:01:03] <Azitrex> think i have root user and alice user , alice have encrypted partition on their Home , could main root user to open files of encrepted partition of /home from alice ? this question is for security level of encrypted partition that is encrypted always or root could to decrypte them
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1240 [11:03:07] <LinuxMediaCodecs> Azi: without too many details, root has permissions to read any partition
1241 [11:03:18] <LinuxMediaCodecs> so the answer is yes
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1246 [11:04:14] <digdilem> although if the encryption is based on a keyphrase that is not stored on the computer, then root won't know it so won't be able to decrypt
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1254 [11:07:47] -JabberMouth- Check out my new channel, #yummycunt
1255 [11:08:38] <JabberMouth> Check out my new channel, #yummycunt
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1258 [11:11:02] <JabberMouth> cyan__: Check out my new channel, #yummycunt
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1263 [11:13:38] <lowin> I installed xfce on my kde system using tasksel. Then removed kde by executing "apt-get remove kde*" and cleaning up with "apt-get autoremove"
1264 [11:13:47] <JabberMouth> lowin: Check out my new channel, #yummycunt
1265 [11:14:20] <lowin> all works except adwaita theme looks very ugly. and setting the cursor using the appearance settings only changes it for qt programs
1266 [11:14:23] <lowin> any idea?
1267 [11:15:34] <JabberMouth> yeah
1268 [11:15:34] <bazhang> !ops | JabberMouth
1269 [11:15:34] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | JabberMouth
1270 [11:15:52] <JabberMouth> !ops | bazhang
1271 [11:15:52] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jabbermouth complains about: | bazhang
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1281 [11:17:50] <bibble> ssh conection always freezing for a few seconds inthe middle of typing etc. any solution to help prevent this ?
1282 [11:18:02] <JonathanD> hi
1283 [11:18:06] <bibble> hello
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1285 [11:18:46] <bibble> ...happens with all connections to all remotes.
1286 [11:19:30] <jelly> bibble: make sure you have enough bandwidth, both transmit and receive, to avoid lag with tcp-based protocols like ssh
1287 [11:20:05] <lowin> How can I see which package pulled a particular package as dependency?
1288 [11:20:09] <jelly> bibble: is your endpoint on an asymetrical connection like DSL?
1289 [11:20:20] <nkuttler> lowin: aptitude why foo
1290 [11:20:28] <lowin> ah thanks
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1293 [11:20:55] <bibble> Thanks jelly . Yep, home broadband. nothing else using the internet; still happens ;_;
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1296 [11:22:18] <jelly> bibble: wired or wireless? Try a wired connection.
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1299 [11:23:06] <bibble> Ah, wireless router make a difference ?, will try ethernet then, to troubleshoot.
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1305 [11:26:13] <archification> How is everyone? Would anyone be able to offer some assitance? Trying to apt-get install mpg123
1306 [11:26:51] <archification> unable to locate package. Tried apt-get update. Still unable to locate package. Tried making sure sources list was proper. Still unable to locate package
1307 [11:27:29] <Xin> archification have you tried apt-cache search mpeg123
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1309 [11:28:15] <archification> so it is mpeg123 and not mpg123?
1310 [11:28:36] <Xin> nah its mpg123 soz typo
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1312 [11:28:54] <Xin> you might have your sources configured wrong or something
1313 [11:29:01] <Xin> worked for me with apt-get install mpg123
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1322 [11:31:48] <archification> Would it be possible for you to paste bin your resource file contents?
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1324 [11:32:00] <archification> source*
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1358 [11:49:54] <DM> hi guys
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1362 [11:50:23] <DM> i have a problem with debian 8.5
1363 [11:51:49] <DM> A start job is running for LSB: NFS support files co...45s / no limit
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1368 [11:53:22] <DM> debian does not start.
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1466 [13:07:28] <ochiottes> Where would I find information about any packages "section"?
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1468 [13:08:32] <ochiottes> I assume there's an sqlite db somewhere
1469 [13:10:14] <themill> What are you trying to find?
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1473 [13:12:49] <ochiottes> Every package seems to be in one of the ~56 sections, it's the information I get from aptitude show. And now I want to find every packages section
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1477 [13:14:42] <themill> ochiottes: it's all in the Packages file. The easiest way to list them all is grep-dctrl although I don't know that it's useful data.
1478 [13:15:05] <quinnw> I'm under the impression $((1..10)) is recommended rather than $(seq 1 10). I can't get the first method to work when the first argument is a variable like ${foo} set to a number
1479 [13:15:08] <ochiottes> themill: Thank you
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1481 [13:15:34] <quinnw> How can I use the preferred method and avoid this problem?
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1538 [13:58:50] <davidcsi> hello guys, i tried getting help on ##iptables but doesn't look like there anyone alive there... hello guys, i have a road warrior on pptp, that goes through the pptp server to the internet on eth0. And i want to block any connection from any road warrior on ppp0 to port 5061 on the internet via eth0... i tried with iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i ppp
1539 [13:58:50] <davidcsi> 0 --dport 5061 -j DROP but this doesn't seem to be doing it... am I doing it wrong?
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1543 [13:59:12] <mrsvee> replaced-url
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1545 [13:59:38] <mrsvee> Wrong chan.
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1548 [14:00:27] <fossrox> ls
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1643 [15:03:53] <hiya> which font is used by Hexchat in Debian?
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1646 [15:04:43] <themill> hiya: whichever one you have configured for your gtk2 theme, I assume
1647 [15:05:42] <hiya> themill, which is default one?
1648 [15:05:44] <hiya> I mess it up
1649 [15:05:46] <hiya> :(
1650 [15:05:52] <themill> nfc
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1664 [15:11:52] <jelly> hiya: hexchat has a command line parameter to use a different (eg. empty or nonexistent) config directory, you can use that and compare
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1667 [15:13:00] <jelly> hiya: hexchat --help lists: -u, --configdir Show user config directory, and also -d, --cfgdir=PATH Use a different config directory
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1669 [15:15:22] <Strykar> I'm currently running 1 instance of an HTTP proxy, privoxy replaced-url
1670 [15:17:11] <Strykar> make another copy of /etc/init.d/privoxy and point that to the 2nd config?
1671 [15:17:55] <hiya> jelly, ok thanks
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1688 [15:29:22] <Strykar> hmm, tried that and it tells me "[....] Starting privoxy2 (via systemctl): privoxy2.serviceFailed to start privoxy2.service: Unit privoxy2.service failed to load: No such file or directory." replaced-url
1689 [15:29:38] <Strykar> do I need to register privoxy2 as a service with systemd?
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1692 [15:31:49] <themill> Strykar: sounds like it comes with its own unit file so that's what you need to duplicate+modify, not the init script
1693 [15:32:12] <Strykar> themill, where is the unit file located
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1695 [15:32:40] <themill> /lib/systemd/system/
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1697 [15:32:58] <Strykar> I assumed the init script would have to be modified as that points to the original config and that needs to change, along with PID and logfile names
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1700 [15:33:41] <themill> if there's a systemd unit, the init script won't be used at all
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1704 [15:34:17] <Strykar> I see, sweet, this looks simple enough replaced-url
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1710 [15:36:54] <Strykar> themill, do I need to enable the service before starting it?
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1713 [15:38:26] <themill> systemctl daemon-reload
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1718 [15:41:29] <Strykar> I did that, and I get replaced-url
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1720 [15:41:54] <han-solo> hey
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1722 [15:43:02] <Strykar> themill, works after running systemctl daemon-reload again, tyvm
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1724 [15:43:12] <han-solo> what's the best way to get what error caused the system restart, using journalctl, or dmesg?
1725 [15:43:19] <Strykar> will systemd autostart it now?
1726 [15:43:31] <Strykar> on reboot that is
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1799 [16:40:01] <MaBunny> hello guys
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1801 [16:41:03] <MaBunny> so i followed those steps,and today tried a fresh install of deb jessie with basic linux packages and ssh server and all but any gui thing
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1803 [16:41:38] <MaBunny> i tried using grub-install but it keeps me telling tht /mnt is busy
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1805 [16:42:01] <MaBunny> pls help
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1813 [16:46:02] <narcan> MaBunny: Hi, what do you want exactly? which steps did you followed ?
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1815 [16:46:15] <Silverlight> hello
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1818 [16:46:52] <TomTomTo1> MaBunny: what do you have mounted in /mnt and your installation didn't install grub correctly or why are your trying to run grub-install?
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1820 [16:47:26] <narcan> yes, we need more informations
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1822 [16:48:09] <MaBunny> TomTomTo1: i installed the basic linux system but couldnt get grub properly installed bcoz i got confused btween those many usb drives
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1824 [16:48:34] <MaBunny> so i tried installing grub manually from my current desktop (deb) which im speaking from
1825 [16:48:42] <TomTomTo1> paste the whole command and output to paste.debian.net please.
1826 [16:49:11] <MaBunny> i tried grub-install .... -boot-directory=/mnt and mount /dev/sdc /mnt b4 tht
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1828 [16:49:15] <MaBunny> ok
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1832 [16:50:59] <TomTomTo1> so you want your boot directory on sdc. that'
1833 [16:51:04] <TomTomTo1> * s weird.
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1835 [16:51:56] <TomTomTo1> did it mount correctly?
1836 [16:52:16] <TomTomTo1> else umount and mount sdc again.
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1840 [16:52:56] <MaBunny> wait im posting
1841 [16:53:28] <wsky> anyone using mate on Jessie here?
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1848 [16:55:22] <ByteStorm> hello
1849 [16:55:28] <ByteStorm> srry got disconnect
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1852 [16:56:14] <ByteStorm> TomTomTo1: heres the link: replaced-url
1853 [16:56:21] <wsky> anyone seen his/her de logging out instead of rebooting when invoked from menu?
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1857 [16:58:07] <TomTomTo1> ByteStorm: because sdb is already mounted. you would have to bind mount to have it in multiple places, but your setup is weird and i think you have to overthink what you are doing.
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1859 [16:58:26] <ByteStorm> ok
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1861 [16:58:35] <ByteStorm> can you pls tell me what to do,im confused
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1863 [16:59:09] <TomTomTo1> ByteStorm: why is sda HPFS/NTFS/exFAT ?
1864 [16:59:27] <ByteStorm> its a Win7 disk
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1867 [16:59:48] <ByteStorm> im installed the fresh one on sdb
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1869 [17:00:49] <TomTomTo1> okay. so where did you install your surrent system? sdb or sdc?
1870 [17:01:16] <ByteStorm> sdb
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1873 [17:04:22] <TomTomTo1> if ByteStorm so your boot directory will be the default /boot/ you don't have to mount anything if you are inside the running system.
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1876 [17:04:33] <TomTomTo1> s/if//
1877 [17:04:43] <ByteStorm> im ByteStorm
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1879 [17:05:18] <ByteStorm> sdc is my new install,im going to use the cli debian from it
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1883 [17:06:05] <ByteStorm> srry sdb
1884 [17:06:46] <ByteStorm> ill do a umount and mount
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1887 [17:07:36] <TomTomTo1> no, your boot directory is already mounted if you are currently running that system.
1888 [17:07:41] <ByteStorm> how do i check the ID of sdb5/1
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1891 [17:07:59] <ByteStorm> ok,so /mnt is already mounted?
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1893 [17:08:14] <ByteStorm> TomTomTo1: i hav an idea
1894 [17:08:37] <ByteStorm> while i start my cli debian/sdb on my machine
1895 [17:08:41] <TomTomTo1> no, /boot/ is already mounted. i have no idea which instructions you follow, but they are not what you need.
1896 [17:08:57] <ByteStorm> i get into the grub shell....
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1898 [17:09:13] <ByteStorm> can i use these commands from tht shell?
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1904 [17:13:01] <ByteStorm> TomTomTo1: ?
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1906 [17:13:21] <TomTomTo1> no.
1907 [17:13:36] <ByteStorm> then....can you pls help
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1910 [17:14:05] <ByteStorm> pls...i have been trying since 2 days
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1916 [17:16:37] <TomTomTo1> so you are currently inside the system with broken grub installation, then grub-install /dev/sdx is what installs grub to whatever drive you want with /boot/ of the / currently in use as boot directory.
1917 [17:17:43] <ByteStorm> no...im in my 32gb gui debian install with the 16gb cli debian mounted as a disk with a broken grub
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1921 [17:18:08] <ByteStorm> the 16 gb disk is what i want to install grubb on,which is sdb
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1926 [17:20:30] <TomTomTo1> ah, got it. which partition of sdb contains your boot directory? you need to mount that not the device.
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1928 [17:20:47] <TomTomTo1> probably /dev/sdb1
1929 [17:20:57] <ByteStorm> wait
1930 [17:21:14] <ByteStorm> yup tht one
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1933 [17:23:36] <TomTomTo1> check if something is mounted in /mnt using df -aTh first.
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1935 [17:24:11] <ByteStorm> can you specify the whole command?
1936 [17:24:58] <TomTomTo1> df -aTh | grep mnt
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1938 [17:25:57] <ByteStorm> nope,it doesnt show anything
1939 [17:26:19] <TomTomTo1> then mount sdb1
1940 [17:26:47] <ByteStorm> ok,on /mnt ?
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1942 [17:27:21] <ByteStorm> yup done,mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
1943 [17:27:21] <TomTomTo1> whereever you want.
1944 [17:27:32] <ByteStorm> ok but
1945 [17:27:52] <ByteStorm> isnt the whole /boot directory on /sdb1 ?
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1948 [17:29:03] <OS-23726> hi
1949 [17:29:12] <TomTomTo1> yes, now you can specify the boot-directory path to grub-install
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1952 [17:29:26] <ByteStorm> ok
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1954 [17:29:51] <ElectroMotive> well then
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1957 [17:30:08] <ElectroMotive> long time no see
1958 [17:30:19] <ByteStorm> hey TomTomTo1
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1962 [17:30:45] <ByteStorm> will it be ....directory=/mnt/sdb1 or ....=/mnt/dev/sdb1
1963 [17:31:05] <TomTomTo1> it will be /mnt/boot
1964 [17:31:11] <ByteStorm> ok
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1966 [17:31:38] <ByteStorm> ElectroMotive ask your question bro
1967 [17:31:51] <ElectroMotive> alright
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1969 [17:32:04] <ByteStorm> ok TomTomTo1 its installed...hope to get it working
1970 [17:32:15] <ByteStorm> brb gonna reboot
1971 [17:32:18] <ElectroMotive> so i did a full reformat overwriting with 0's and then did a fresh install
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1975 [17:32:56] <ElectroMotive> and after i booted into the system after the install i did the typical update/upgrade etc.
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1978 [17:33:12] <ElectroMotive> now the system will not boot but i still have grub
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2007 [17:46:33] <orb> I'm having a weird issue where apparently fsck.ext4 can't find my root partition because it complains about it at boot time. Yet the system boots fine.
2008 [17:46:35] <MaBunny> TomTomTo1 !!!
2009 [17:46:43] <MaBunny> it didnt work bro
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2013 [17:47:21] <MaBunny> it again takes me to the Grub shell
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2018 [17:48:51] <frostschutz> orb, check your fstab for typos
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2020 [17:49:34] <orb> i have looked at it. Right after install, the fstab was empty ... which also confuses me.
2021 [17:49:39] <orb> although the behavior was the same.
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2024 [17:50:35] <orb> there was a line in fstab saying essentially that it was an placeholder file for setup.
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2027 [17:50:43] <TomTomTo1> MaBunny: did you boot from the correct device?
2028 [17:50:51] <MaBunny> yeah pal
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2030 [17:51:06] <MaBunny> i did,but it again take me to the Grub mnu
2031 [17:51:10] <MaBunny> *menu
2032 [17:51:22] <TomTomTo1> where else should it take you?
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2035 [17:51:46] <TomTomTo1> if it's the normal graphical menu. a cmd line would be bad.
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2037 [17:51:58] <MaBunny> it should run the system,login to my root user
2038 [17:52:16] <MaBunny> no just terminal stuff installed
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2043 [17:52:55] <MaBunny> but it shouldnt be grub sshell,should it?
2044 [17:53:21] <TomTomTo1> no, that usually means it can't find the boot directory.
2045 [17:53:38] <MaBunny> yeah
2046 [17:53:56] <MaBunny> so it cannot take me to login screen
2047 [17:54:00] <MaBunny> which i want
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2049 [17:54:20] <TomTomTo1> grub-cli that is. grub shell started every time.
2050 [17:54:29] <MaBunny> ok
2051 [17:54:43] <MaBunny> but my /boot seems to be ok btw
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2054 [17:56:50] <MaBunny> TomTomTo1 ?
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2061 [17:59:57] <orb> hm, yeah, it's not the fstab
2062 [18:00:26] <orb> this is something that happens right at the beginning of boot.
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2066 [18:04:47] <AgentElrond> (Singular underscore, I mean. The hyphens are fine.)
2067 [18:04:59] <orb> so, nic firmware apparently isn't a requirement, even though it complains?
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2098 [18:29:38] <bakwards> How can you add h264 support in debian?
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2101 [18:29:55] <Xin> bakwards you tried typing that into google l8ly
2102 [18:30:04] <Xin> or do you want to do this all
2103 [18:30:07] <Xin> bakwards;
2104 [18:30:09] <Xin> ;p
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2167 [19:11:22] <DoctorD90> guys, may I add/change crypto keys under LUKS while system is running and the target lUKS device is the mounted device?
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2169 [19:11:40] <DoctorD90> i never remember...
2170 [19:12:57] <koollman> DoctorD90: yes
2171 [19:13:26] <DoctorD90> oh great...i would like check status of my keys and change passwords :P
2172 [19:13:30] <DoctorD90> thx :D
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2199 [19:28:27] <donald1> hi. I want to use the shared folder on kvm. I have alredy created a root folder in /mnt/folder, Gave him all the rights, add a systemfile configured to use mapped mode, source in /mnt/folder, select the target path as 'folder' and finally boot in the guest system. I do not see the folders yet. How to see these?
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2238 [19:44:24] <no_gravity> When I type sqlite3 and then tab, only .sqlite3 files are suggested. Why? My sqlite databases do not have that ending.
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2240 [19:44:58] <zinx> no_gravity: because the shell you're using has smart completion, and most people use that extension for sqlite
2241 [19:45:11] <no_gravity> zinx: How do I desmart my shell?
2242 [19:45:23] <zinx> no_gravity: depends on the shell, and i do not know how specificly, sorry
2243 [19:45:34] <no_gravity> It's bash I guess.
2244 [19:45:47] <zinx> no_gravity: look for: bash turn off smart completion
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2246 [19:47:01] <no_gravity> "complete -r" seems to solve it.
2247 [19:47:03] <no_gravity> Wonder if I should put that into my bashrc
2248 [19:47:07] <zinx> yes
2249 [19:47:20] <zinx> it's not saved anywhere
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2260 [19:49:55] <wsky> is there anything like compiz fusion for Debian?
2261 [19:50:02] <wsky> Jessie that is
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2263 [19:50:16] <wsky> i'd liek compiz fusion in my mate but cf seems dead
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2267 [19:50:59] <zinx> there are other compositors, but none with the over-the-top special effects compiz fusion has
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2270 [19:51:37] <wsky> well mate has a basic compositor
2271 [19:51:43] <zinx> compton is one that works with any window manager that doesn't already have a compositor
2272 [19:51:46] <zinx> it's basic :/
2273 [19:51:46] <wsky> but i'd like something like compiz instead
2274 [19:52:26] <missmbob> ask someone who has a clie
2275 [19:52:33] <wsky> i wonder why did that happen
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2289 [19:58:57] <zinx> wsky: fwiw it looks like compiz is being developed again, you could build packages for that
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2293 [20:00:11] <zinx> wsky: replaced-url
2294 [20:00:40] <zinx> wsky: and, don't use the precompiled ubuntu packages for it. you'll just break stuff.
2295 [20:00:43] <wsky> i have not much experience with building debian packages
2296 [20:01:29] <missmbob> wsky: how is that possible? you said you've been an admin for over a decade
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2342 [20:17:43] <b6s3d> i need some help with nvidia setup on debian jessie
2343 [20:17:57] <zinx> wsky: for that one, you have to remove some ubuntu dependencies (dh-migrations, dh-translations, and libxorg-gtest-dev) in debian/control, and take ,migrations,translations off the last line in debian/rules. otherwise, it's the same as building anything with dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage from .dsc + .diff.gz + .orig.tar.gz, which you can google
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2345 [20:18:20] <b6s3d> i have two graphic cards in my computer, and i wish to use both to dual screen my desktop interface
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2349 [20:19:05] <zinx> b6s3d: which two graphics cards?
2350 [20:19:42] <somiaj> b6s3d: is this an optimus setup with dual nvidia/intel cards?
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2354 [20:22:25] <b6s3d> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] (rev a1)
2355 [20:22:43] <b6s3d> x2
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2357 [20:23:21] <zinx> b6s3d: do either of those have two outputs? it's usually easier to set it up that way and use nVidia's "twinview" feature
2358 [20:23:35] <somiaj> !nvidia-dkms
2359 [20:23:42] <somiaj> !nvidia dkms
2360 [20:23:43] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
2361 [20:24:18] <zinx> "nvidia-driver" is the metapackage
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2363 [20:24:46] <somiaj> b6s3d: those are the basic instructions to get the nvidia non-free driver. From there you can just use xrandr (my suggestion) or nvidia's tools (zinx suggestion) to get both cards working.
2364 [20:24:54] <b6s3d> thanks man
2365 [20:25:37] <somiaj> note the small stuff you have to put in the xorg.conf (I wouldn't use the automatic config genatro)
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2367 [20:26:41] <b6s3d> gonna reboot :)
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2378 [20:31:57] <grim210> i was checking out the wiki on installing bumblebee-nvidia for my laptop. however, one question: it doesn't appear that using the drivers from the nvidia website will work with the repository bumblebee? or am i wrong?
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2380 [20:32:20] <grim210> i did an apt-cache showpkg and saw that it depends on all the nvidia things from the repo
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2383 [20:33:30] <zinx> grim210: you should be using the debian packaged drivers anyway on debian
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2388 [20:34:06] <grim210> yeah, well they're old. i do vulkan development, which isn't in the repo-provided driver
2389 [20:34:42] <zinx> grim210: have you tried backports (i haven't looked, but sid has nvidia's vulkan stuff)
2390 [20:34:53] <grim210> 352.79, need 360.xx for Vulkan
2391 [20:35:04] <grim210> jessie-backports, I'll add
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2394 [20:36:12] <zinx> grim210: if it's not there and you don't want to build the packages, you can always add dummy packages, but it'll be hard for #debian to support you, as using the ones from nVidia's site is known to break things :)
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2397 [20:36:53] <grim210> the proprietary ones support dkms, which makes it a lot easier than it used to be
2398 [20:37:18] <cburkhardt> question, how would I get Debian services on a custom linux system? including dpkg and such
2399 [20:37:20] <zinx> grim210: mainly they don't play nice with Debian's alternatives system
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2401 [20:37:43] <grim210> zinx: i appreciate your assistance!
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2405 [20:38:50] <jelly> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
2406 [20:38:51] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-10~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 352.79-10; sid/non-free: 361.45.18-2; experimental/non-free: 364.19-1
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2408 [20:39:15] <zinx> guess it's not in jessie
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2411 [20:39:23] <zinx> erh, jessie-backports
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2414 [20:41:35] <b6s3d> i couldn't install nvidia-glx replaced-url
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2417 [20:42:19] <grim210> i always have good luck installing nvidia-kernel-dkms instead of all the other stuff in the repo
2418 [20:42:49] <grim210> that pulls in linux-headers-{arch}, nvidia-glx, dkms, etc etc so that all you need to do is nvidia-xconfig and reboot
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2421 [20:43:48] <grim210> exit
2422 [20:43:57] <grim210> whoops, thought i was in the terminal..
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2425 [20:44:37] <b6s3d> E: Unable to locate package xorg-server
2426 [20:44:37] <b6s3d> \
2427 [20:44:38] <b6s3d> wtf
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2431 [20:45:30] <jelly> b6s3d: what are you trying to do
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2434 [20:47:15] <jelly> b6s3d: also which debian release are you on? do ask the bot: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms
2435 [20:48:52] <b6s3d> jelly, nvidia-glx said i needed xorg-server so i tried to install it
2436 [20:48:53] <b6s3d> jessie
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2438 [20:49:32] <cburkhardt> is it possible to intergrate debian on a custom linux build
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2442 [20:50:29] <donald1> hi. I want to use the shared folder on kvm. I have alredy created a root folder in /mnt/folder, Gave him all the rights, add a systemfile configured to use mapped mode, source in /mnt/folder, select the target path as 'folder' and finally boot in the guest system. I do not see the folders yet. How to see these?
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2446 [20:51:18] <cburkhardt> i am used to it via my desktop and Raspberry all being built on debain
2447 [20:51:35] <b6s3d> replaced-url
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2459 [20:58:12] <Rust3dCor3> hello. after reinstalling debian (from stable to stable) my gpu is working weaker. i use mesa drivers. what package should i install additionally. im asking because i've lost my precious file of needed packets to install. yes it can be nonfree.
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2462 [20:59:27] <musca> Rust3dCor3: and which chipset is it?
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2464 [20:59:50] <Rust3dCor3> musca: ati radeon xpress 200 m.. yep my card is old
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2466 [21:00:32] <cburkhardt> did you download and run the last known good driver by chance?
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2468 [21:00:39] <musca> so you are using the free radeon driver which in some cases needs firmware-linux-nonfree
2469 [21:00:52] <Rust3dCor3> ati dropped support for my card like 6 years ago
2470 [21:01:18] <cburkhardt> usually you can find the last working driver in the legacy section of their site
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2473 [21:02:03] <Rust3dCor3> i recall having the firmware-linux-nonfree packet on my list. but i dont have it
2474 [21:02:08] <Rust3dCor3> ill try it and restart
2475 [21:02:09] <Rust3dCor3> thanks
2476 [21:02:13] <cburkhardt> my gpu was just dropped last year, and thats how I get the drivers for my distros
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2479 [21:02:48] <musca> Rust3dCor3: make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-all or at least server-xorg-video-{ati,r128,radeon}
2480 [21:03:50] <musca> cburkhardt: well, fglrx is pain, and radeon has made a lot of progress.
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2487 [21:07:11] <cburkhardt> i only use ATI/AMD (have had to many operating systems fail to build using other drivers
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2496 [21:10:03] <Rust3dCor3> Thanks guys. The firmware-linux-nonfree packet did the job. Now I can play conterstrike again :)
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2507 [21:14:33] <cburkhardt> whats the best window manager for a low end system ? Looking at LXDE
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2511 [21:17:11] <mtn> cburkhardt: that is not a wm, that is a de. how about openbox, that is a wm
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2518 [21:21:20] <cburkhardt> I actually like that one... cant find the min requirements yet, though I am concurrently writing an operating system for my laptop
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2520 [21:21:53] <mtn> uh huh, sure.
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2522 [21:24:04] <cburkhardt> I am... every componant to the laptops linux system being put in on its own with me writing config files as needed
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2526 [21:26:42] <bibble> how do you create an ECDH, elliptical curve diffie hellman key using openssl ? ... thought it would be simple, but not coming across a clear answer.
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2529 [21:27:39] <bibble> ...dhparam.pem
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2540 [21:31:53] <bibble> to make an RSA one: "openssl dhparam -out dhparams.pem 2048"
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2546 [21:34:27] <wsky> how to mount the initramfs image under debian?
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2563 [21:41:39] <Flippylosaurus> just a quick question: to make my graphics card work with games i had to downgrade libdrm-intel and mark it as hold. whenever i try to install any package it says that the dependencies are quite fucked. when i tryto use aptitude -f, it says that libdrm-dev depends on libdrm-intel1 (= 2.4.58-2) but 2.4.56-1 is installed and it is kept back.
2564 [21:41:46] <Flippylosaurus> i tried unholding kit
2565 [21:41:48] <Flippylosaurus> it*
2566 [21:41:52] <Flippylosaurus> but i get the same error
2567 [21:42:25] <tobias47n9e-c> Does anyone if there is a package for "zanata-python-client" for Debian or Ubuntu?
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2569 [21:43:06] <Flippylosaurus> oh wait, now it seems to not do that
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2571 [21:44:29] <jchuck> hi boys, i want block my pc by shell, how can i do ?
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2579 [21:48:14] <wsky> ok i got this
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2581 [21:50:07] <dutchfish> jchuck, the shell or ssh access?
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2583 [21:50:22] <jchuck> shell
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2586 [21:51:19] <dutchfish> jchuck, just change in /etc/passwd the end to :bin/false (meaning no interactive logon)
2587 [21:51:40] <jchuck> i want send my pc in lockscreen
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2590 [21:52:40] <dutchfish> jchuck, so temporary lockout, for normal users?
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2592 [21:52:51] <dutchfish> jchuck, be clear
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2594 [21:53:32] <jchuck> sorry i have problem to speak english :D
2595 [21:53:44] <jchuck> yes normal lockscreen
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2597 [21:53:56] <jchuck> for use pc required password for user
2598 [21:54:43] <dutchfish> jchuck, which window manager?
2599 [21:54:57] <jchuck> cinnamon
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2602 [21:55:15] <jchuck> default shortcut is ctrl+l
2603 [21:55:18] <jchuck> sorry
2604 [21:55:24] <jchuck> ctrl+alt+l
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2607 [21:57:21] <dutchfish> jchuck, that or true the menu, but i gues you want it automated?
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2610 [22:00:20] <dutchfish> jchuck, you could configure the screen saver to do that, or manually on a prompt like `bash -c "cinnamon-screensaver-command -l; xset dpms force off;"`
2611 [22:00:38] <jchuck> dutchfish, i want use it by shell
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2615 [22:02:21] <jchuck> dutchfish, perfect thanks!!
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2618 [22:02:32] <jchuck> cinnamon-screensaver-command -l
2619 [22:03:08] <dutchfish> yw
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2700 [22:46:14] <dove> hi sypher
2701 [22:46:29] <sypher> dove: hey!
2702 [22:46:42] <dove> wow!
2703 [22:46:44] <dove> what's up man?
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2709 [22:51:52] <iio7> Where is the "--encrypt-home" option of adduser?
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2789 [23:53:10] <alioui_> hi
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2793 [23:54:53] <vixxo> hello, I would like to install debian on a libreboot machine with a full disk encryption and I would liek to know if this tutorial replaced-url
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