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0[00:00:27] <teraflops> give a try to youtube-dl then
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2[00:01:24] <baraba> teraflops, i don't think you can use youtube-dl for live sport streams
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5[00:02:07] <teraflops> baraba: unless youre talking about those sites that unless you have an ad blocker addon your computer just explodes
6[00:02:19] <teraflops> baraba: use acestream or sopcast then
7[00:02:58] <teraflops> baraba: this is not the place for asking about such things though
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12[00:04:25] <baraba> teraflops, acestream and sopcast are not free software, of course it is the right place
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16[00:04:56] <baraba> i didn't ask about sport stream, but open source flash implementations on debian or linux in general
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20[00:05:37] <teraflops> baraba: what I meant is this is not the site for asking about acestream or sopcast
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22[00:06:11] <teraflops> answering to my own sentence
23[00:06:20] <baraba> ok
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25[00:06:39] <ProfessorKaos64> if I want to make more than one snapshot version of a package in a day (e.g. vkquake_0.30+[DATE]git), how shoudl i handle upping the version?
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44[00:15:00] <babilen> ProfessorKaos64: Ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net -- You probably want to include something monotonically increasing after the date
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50[00:15:56] <babilen> Ah, cross posted already
51[00:15:58] <babilen> nvm
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56[00:16:34] <ProfessorKaos64> I did, just thought i'd ask. I was thinking of going with 20160802.081813
57[00:16:35] <bakwards> Why use a crossover why not just use a switcj
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64[00:18:55] <Akuw> to install xen virtualization the package name is xen-hipervisor ?
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66[00:19:20] <babilen> ProfessorKaos64: As in the timestamp ?
67[00:19:28] <Akuw> there is xen-hipervisor and xen-hupervisor-4.4
68[00:19:43] <vook> !xen
69[00:19:43] <dpkg> Xen is an open source virtual machine monitor / hypervisor, allowing several guest operating systems to execute concurrently on the same system. Provides paravirtualization (requiring guest OSs to be modified/ported) and hardware-assisted virtualization (for running guests unmodified). For detailed help, see replaced-url
70[00:19:45] <ProfessorKaos64> yea. Just trying to make my version of the package, if building more than 1 in a day, versioning sane
71[00:19:50] <Akuw> sorry, there is xen-hipervisor and xen-hipervisor-4.4
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73[00:20:15] <vook> xen-hypervisor is a virtual package, links to en-hypervisor-4.4-amd64
74[00:20:19] <ProfessorKaos64> Or ${date_short}git+bsos${pkgrev}-${debrev}
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76[00:20:53] <babilen> bsos?
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79[00:21:14] <babilen> I tend to have git before the data
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81[00:21:17] <babilen> *date
82[00:21:25] <ProfessorKaos64> that was left over from another build, deb8 whichever, I do packaging for steamos too
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85[00:22:00] <bakwards> python
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97[00:25:47] <Akuw> in jessie xen-linux-system is not in main package
98[00:26:50] <vook> it is in my jessie
99[00:27:04] <Akuw> ?
100[00:27:13] <Wally> Gah.. my works internet is so broken that the ssh prompts are logging and my password is being put in the clear..
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102[00:27:23] <vook> you need more than just the hypervisor, you need the toolstack, etc.
103[00:27:32] <missmbob> no it's not. xen-linux-system-3.16.0-4-amd64
104[00:27:45] <Wally> is it in a backport?
105[00:27:52] <Akuw> i guess
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107[00:28:11] <Akuw> becuase in main is not there
108[00:28:13] <missmbob> xen-linux-system-amd64 is available
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110[00:29:26] <vook> hmm, here 'xen-linux-system' installs the exact same packages as ..-amd64
111[00:29:39] <vook> but I have backports enabled
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113[00:29:46] <missmbob> ,v xen-linux-system
114[00:29:47] <judd> No package named 'xen-linux-system' was found in amd64.
115[00:29:49] <Akuw> is in wheezy
116[00:29:51] <missmbob> that includes backports
117[00:29:54] <missmbob> right, wheezy
118[00:29:57] <missmbob> not jessie
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120[00:30:04] * iKarith would just like to say that Atom D410 w/ i915 KMS driver is damned near a paperweight on Linux. :P I spent days trying to figure out how to get a resolution other than 1024x768 out of the thing, and to actually get half the console to not be off-screen. :P
121[00:30:16] <Akuw> then in jessie i have to install xen-hypervisor?
122[00:30:27] <vook> actually, no, I don't have backports enabled
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124[00:30:37] <missmbob> no you install the amd64 package i mentioned earlier
125[00:30:38] <vook> just main contrib non-free, only jessie
126[00:30:52] <pk64> I just ended up going with "vkquake_0.30+20160802git+deb1-1" something like that
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128[00:31:03] <missmbob> vook: p.d.o disagrees with you as well
129[00:31:30] <vook> I don't know what there is to debate - I'm just saying it exists in my system
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131[00:32:19] <rogfish> Hi all! Im trying to use my gps dongle (made for the ar drone) on my debian netbook. Anyone know if this works, and if I need some kind of software to take use of it?
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133[00:32:25] <rogfish> Viking cant find my location
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135[00:32:49] <axc1298> when does debian 9 go into freeze?
136[00:33:03] <vook> missmbob: it's because I'm using aptitude search, not apt-cache search
137[00:33:31] <missmbob> axc1298: replaced-url
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140[00:34:13] <axc1298> thanks
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143[00:35:24] <Akuw> i just added contrib non-free but xen-linux-system is not there
144[00:35:38] <missmbob> because it's not in jessie...
145[00:35:54] <missmbob> guess i should just stop talking
146[00:35:59] <vook> Akuw: it'll show up if you use aptitude, but it's the same as xen-linux-system-amd64. Yes, it is in jessie with aptitude, which has more virtual package options
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153[00:37:10] <Akuw> aptitude search xen-linux-system show no package
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155[00:37:42] <vook> who cares? just install xen-linux-system-amd64
156[00:38:07] <missmbob> like i said forever ago.
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158[00:38:37] <Akuw> not there
159[00:38:56] <missmbob> ,v xen-linux-system-amd64
160[00:38:57] <judd> Package: xen-linux-system-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.6+74~bpo8+1; sid: 4.6+74; stretch: 4.6+74
161[00:39:04] <vook> replaced-url
162[00:39:06] <missmbob> yeah, that one shows up in jessie and jessie-backports
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164[00:40:11] <vook> like I said forever ago
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166[00:42:07] <missmbob> vook: this was a wheezy box before and upgraded to jessie, right?
167[00:43:11] <vook> It's possible, but I'm not sure why old packages from 2 years ago would be showing up now.
168[00:43:25] <missmbob> in your local database it stays. it saw it once.
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171[00:43:49] <vook> really now? So when I remove a repo, like owncloud for example, those packages will still show up? I think not
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175[00:44:23] <missmbob> vook: okay. try it. or give a reason why judd and p.d.o and everyone else can't find it in jessie
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185[00:49:10] <vook> ok, concede, I do not know. I had no idea that debian kept every package in the repo that it's ever seen until the end of time, whether it's present anywhere in the sources or not.
186[00:50:12] <TomTomTosch> it doesn't...
187[00:50:57] <vook> so why is it keeping wheezy packages (from repos that were long ago removed)?
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189[00:51:35] <vook> and why does this wheezy virtual package install the exact same packages as the jessie virtual package?
190[00:51:44] <vook> seems like it'd be pulling something a bit older.
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192[00:52:48] <vook> so there must be some function in the process, moving from wheezy to jessie, in which the old link is deliberately retained and repointed
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199[00:55:23] <TomTomTosch> it's a virtual package provided by xen-linux-system-amd64, that's why judd and p.d.o don't show it.
200[00:56:06] <vook> yeah, that makes more sense
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237[01:15:28] <slbtc> I need help on lxde and xfce I'm not getting any sound
238[01:15:49] <slbtc> I have alsamixer and pavucontrol installed both pick up sound but I can't hear it from my HDTV speakers or my headphones.
239[01:16:29] <Wally> have you set pulseaudio / alsa order?
240[01:16:39] <slbtc> ?
241[01:16:41] <Wally> there's some trickery with the config files.. It's a PITA
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246[01:17:16] <slbtc> sounds complicated. but I need sound so I'll go through it if I have to.
247[01:17:39] <Wally> I don't remember the specifics.
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253[01:19:01] <awal1_> slbtc, play with profil stuff in configuration tab of pavuctrl
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255[01:19:09] <Wally> .asound.rc or something
256[01:19:10] <Wally> I wish someone would make it easier.
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259[01:20:29] <awal1_> qasmixer helps sometimes
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262[01:23:25] <slbtc> Wally: if I were to use external speakers would it be picked up by debian automatically or would I still have to configure it?
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271[01:28:26] <Wally> try it?
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274[01:28:48] <zyley> slbtc, i think i can partially help, what command "aplay -l" show up, use paste.debian.net
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291[01:32:24] <zyley> basically put, you only have one card, so you don't need /etc/asound/conf ...
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294[01:32:50] <zyley> is it classic yet again, volume down and/or mute
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297[01:33:25] <slbtc> zyley: so what do you suggest I do?
298[01:33:46] <slbtc> zyley: it says there's sound but I can't hear it. and nothing's muted
299[01:34:04] <slbtc> I tried headphones and the built in sound from my HDTV
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302[01:34:21] <slbtc> in alsamixer it says the headphones are on but there's no volume
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304[01:34:52] <slbtc> like how there is on the other sound profiles like the master sound front end ect..
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308[01:35:42] <slbtc> zyley: what if I were to remove pulse and reinstall it?
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314[01:36:34] <zyley> do you have desktop or laptop ...
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317[01:37:14] <zyley> desktops usually have two connectors. one in the back and one in the front
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324[01:39:19] <zyley> *audio connectors
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326[01:39:56] <slbtc> zyley: desktop
327[01:40:14] <slbtc> zyley: I tried both with my headphones still nothing
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330[01:41:11] <slbtc> zyley they did work once though the first time I had them plugged in but ever since I restarted and I wanted to get the speakers for my HDTV monitor to work the headphones as of now cease to work :/
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332[01:41:55] <zyley> what does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" do ...
333[01:42:22] <slbtc> zyley: I think the problem is that I'm using an old dell desktop and I heard sound for dell with linux is weirdly setup
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338[01:44:34] <slbtc> zyley: sorry what's the command to paste it to dpaste.com in the terminal? My browsers are acting up they're open but they won't appear
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343[01:45:40] <zyley> did you mean "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav"
344[01:45:49] <TomTomTosch> !pastebinit
345[01:45:49] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b replaced-url
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351[01:46:44] <slbtc> TomTomTosch: that's what I was looking for thanks
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356[01:48:03] <zyley> slbtc, i don't see hdmi audio device so getting sound through hdmi might be impossible
357[01:48:33] <slbtc> zyley: well it is connected through serial not hdmi port
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361[01:51:32] <zyley> serial ...now i'm lost ...do you mean 3.5mm audio jacks
362[01:51:47] <Wally> lol
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378[01:56:02] <slbtc> zyley: replaced-url
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390[01:58:29] <zyley> did you hear anything
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398[02:01:53] <slbtc> zyley: no nothing
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402[02:02:27] <reifange> hi
403[02:02:41] <reifange> can
404[02:03:05] * jim opens a can
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407[02:03:59] <reifange> so
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409[02:04:03] <slbtc> zyley: I even tried out HDAJackRetask and overridden headphones
410[02:04:11] <slbtc> still no sound from headphone
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416[02:07:24] <bazhang> slbtc, what about with pavucontrol and padevchooser
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419[02:08:17] <slbtc> padevchooser?
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421[02:08:31] <jim> reifange, if you have a question, feel free to ask
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423[02:09:19] <bazhang> slbtc, yes, thats the correct package name
424[02:09:30] <bazhang> pulse audio device chooser
425[02:09:36] <reifange> thanks.
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429[02:10:15] <slbtc> bazhang: Ok let me try that
430[02:10:55] <slbtc> unable to locate package padevchooser
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432[02:11:09] <bazhang> I hope you check for not muted in alsamixer
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434[02:11:40] <slbtc> bazhang: it's unmuted but there's no sound bar to indicate that it's working like everything else is at 100
435[02:11:44] <bazhang> ,v pavucontrol
436[02:11:44] <slbtc> the headphones are 00
437[02:11:45] <judd> Package: pavucontrol on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-1; wheezy: 1.0-1; jessie: 2.0-3; stretch: 3.0-3+b2; sid: 3.0-3+b2
438[02:12:10] <bazhang> set PCM to 80 slbtc
439[02:12:11] <slbtc> no option to control the volume in alsamixer
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441[02:12:24] <slbtc> PCM Is at 100
442[02:12:39] <bazhang> set it to 80
443[02:12:56] <slbtc> k did that
444[02:13:12] <slbtc> master is muted
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447[02:13:29] <bazhang> unmute it
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451[02:13:33] <slbtc> that might be from the HDAJackRetask thing I used.
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455[02:14:07] <slbtc> Surround and center are at 100 as well
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457[02:14:38] <slbtc> and I unmuted the master sound
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464[02:17:33] <bazhang> PCM is the one you dont want a 100
465[02:17:51] <bazhang> .v paprefs
466[02:17:58] <bazhang> augh
467[02:18:09] <bazhang> ,v paprefs
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469[02:18:10] <judd> Package: paprefs on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-2; jessie: 0.9.10-1; wheezy: 0.9.10-1; stretch: 0.9.10-2; sid: 0.9.10-2
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474[02:18:35] <Guest34406> sry fail
475[02:18:42] <slbtc> bazhang: ok well it's at 80 headphones still 00 no way to change it but it's active
476[02:19:05] <Wally> Are there any plans to make audio in debian more.. awesome
477[02:19:27] <bazhang> slbtc, did you try with pavuctonrl yet
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481[02:19:32] <bazhang> pavucontrol
482[02:19:34] <slbtc> how about more compatible with dell desktops? >.>
483[02:19:51] <slbtc> bazhang: no option for headphones in pavucontrol
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485[02:20:05] <bazhang> Wally, thats a feature of your soundcard, not debian
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487[02:20:30] <bazhang> what soundcard do you have Wally
488[02:20:33] <Wally> I mean like a proper gui front end to customize audio crap and auto detection of devices.
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490[02:20:48] <Wally> Like any other sane os
491[02:21:01] <jmcnaught> slbtc: i have sometimes found soundcards that work on Linux, but have some strangely named channel muted that you can unmute in alsamixer. Sometimes the channel is just an on/off option that you can toggle
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493[02:21:06] <bazhang> Wally, please answer my question
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495[02:21:17] <Wally> IDGAF. It's not my question
496[02:21:29] <slbtc> bazhang: for output the only option is the built-in audio. configuration says "no sound cards to configure"
497[02:21:53] <bazhang> Wally, you want more awesome, tell us the sound card for the awesome-inization
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499[02:22:11] <Wally> I'm not running debian ATM.
500[02:22:40] <jmcnaught> sound works out of the box for me on almost every computer, and pulseaudio does have a decent gui with pavucontrol or gnome's sound preferences
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503[02:23:01] <bazhang> Wally, you could still tell us the actual sound card, there are some 'awesome, just like windows, GUI THINGYs out there
504[02:23:20] <Wally> I don't use Windows either..
505[02:23:30] <Wally> Pretty sure it's just a realtek
506[02:23:33] <bazhang> Wally, why are you here at all
507[02:23:44] <Wally> because I have a debian Mac Mini at home..
508[02:23:55] <Wally> Why are you such an angry little man?
509[02:23:58] <slbtc> I stay away from windows like the plague same with mac OSX and ubuntu
510[02:24:05] <Wally> Good for you
511[02:24:13] <bazhang> Wally, did you want a link to the gui thingy or not
512[02:24:29] <Wally> oh you were trying to give advise.. bazhang sorry.
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514[02:24:34] <Wally> I don't really need a GUI :)
515[02:24:42] <bazhang> whoa what angry little man
516[02:24:45] <Wally> The Mini doesn't actually need sound at all but please fire it at me!
517[02:24:49] <bazhang> thast uncalled for
518[02:24:52] <Wally> lol
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520[02:25:05] * Wally passes bazhang a lemon lime and bitters
521[02:25:06] <Wally> phrasing.
522[02:25:28] <Greek0> packaging question: how do I include a setuid-root binary in a package when building with fakeroot?
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525[02:25:37] <Vainglory> Wally: So what specifically did you want to ask?
526[02:25:48] <Wally> Vainglory I didn't want to ask anything.
527[02:25:59] <Wally> I just lurk here usually
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529[02:26:07] <bazhang> here to rant it looks like
530[02:26:15] <Wally> no m8
531[02:26:25] <Wally> i'm here to learn and offer some advice.
532[02:26:27] <sm00th> wally I use kde for that most de's have a gui for that stuff.
533[02:26:38] <Wally> Yeah I haven't really looked at KDE for a while.
534[02:26:45] <Wally> I mostly use XFCE and mate.
535[02:26:59] <sm00th> oh ya on xfce you might have to install it yourself
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537[02:27:02] <Wally> Please don't take what I said the wrong way. I know I could make something if I need to do stuff.
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539[02:27:10] <Wally> I don't need audio on the Mini, it's purely a serer
540[02:27:12] <Wally> *server
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544[02:28:25] <glick> hi, can anyone recommend a good VPN provider
545[02:28:25] <glick> ?
546[02:28:37] <glick> for linux and mac
547[02:28:40] <Wally> glick as we said in #MaOSX go to #networking please.
548[02:28:44] <Wally> #macosx*
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550[02:28:52] <glick> damn it! lol
551[02:28:57] <glick> okay thanks
552[02:28:59] <sm00th> glick, the one that sponsors freenode
553[02:29:07] <Vainglory> glick: PrivateInternetAccess
554[02:29:11] <sm00th> ya that one
555[02:29:20] <glick> that one only has 3000IP addresses
556[02:29:21] <sm00th> top notch
557[02:29:30] <Vainglory> glick: why would it matter?
558[02:29:32] <sm00th> well then i guess it depends whats important to you
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560[02:29:57] <glick> cause thats can be sifted through real quick
561[02:30:02] * Wally glares at iWaldo
562[02:30:16] <sypher> glick: Then build your own.
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564[02:30:26] <glick> i cant join networking
565[02:30:49] <glick> no sypher
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567[02:31:01] <sm00th> seems lik you know all there is to know about vpns, we should be asking you for advice lol
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569[02:31:09] <missmbob> it's ##networking. and you probably need a registered nick. /msg nickserv help
570[02:31:15] <glick> ahhh
571[02:31:16] <glick> thanks
572[02:31:29] <sypher> glick: Exactly. Don't ask for people's recommendations and then nay-say them based on criteria that you think you need that you haven't communicated. If you're that smart, build your own.
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574[02:31:50] <glick> ok sypher thanks
575[02:32:22] <sm00th> how many servers should a vpn have? and why does it matter?
576[02:33:40] * Vainglory coughs sounds sketchy coughs
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578[02:34:35] <sypher> Probably.
579[02:35:28] <sm00th> Vainglory, your name reminds me of company flow - Legends
580[02:35:45] <Vainglory> sm00th: i'm not sure what that means
581[02:35:59] <sm00th> Vainglorious
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583[02:36:28] <sm00th> Denomination of commonly monstrous Caution blow the unit's sensation
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587[02:37:01] <sm00th> Vainglory, replaced-url
588[02:37:19] <sm00th> replaced-url
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594[02:39:40] <sm00th> eh alot of those lyrics are wrong
595[02:39:55] <themill> offtopic much?
596[02:40:00] <sm00th> haha
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619[03:00:46] <awal1_> slbtc, pasystray is really util
620[03:01:38] <awal1_> when I plug external usb audio headsets ... pavucontrol dont list them, but pasystray yes
621[03:02:26] <awal1_> right clic in the systray icon and I'm able to select default device, sources and sink
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625[03:03:13] <Jaggz> My netinst usb Kris rebooting when i select a bit option
626[03:03:17] <Jaggz> Keeps
627[03:04:07] <awal1_> padevchooser is no longuer available in stretch/sid
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630[03:04:39] <awal1_> I think padevchooser function are now included in pasystray
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632[03:05:48] <awal1_> sound is a serious problem sometimes and hard to solve it
633[03:05:56] <Jaggz> I've tried fb=false vga=normal acpi=off
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635[03:06:32] <thenewone1> Hi guys
636[03:06:35] <thenewone1> i'm runing debian8
637[03:06:41] <thenewone1> why i can't find wayland in the repo ?
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640[03:08:00] <Jaggz> Awal
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642[03:08:25] <Jaggz> awal1_ have you tried the alsa sync stuff?
643[03:08:30] <Jaggz> replaced-url
644[03:08:47] <missmbob> thenewone1: you're probably looking for weston. and it sucks right now. i wouldn't use it
645[03:08:52] <Jaggz> Not the same typee of device, but maybe it helps
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647[03:09:40] <thenewone1> missmbob, ok we just get enough from xorg because it's oldddddddd so much :)
648[03:09:48] <awal1_> Jaggz, will check that, ok
649[03:10:00] <Jaggz> Deal!
650[03:10:04] <thenewone1> ok i found xwayland
651[03:10:07] <thenewone1> not wayland :)
652[03:10:22] <awal1_> right now I have no problems, but just sometimes when the external audio stuff are usb
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654[03:10:42] <awal1_> usb connector imean, or i dont know how it's called
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667[03:21:09] <grondilu> anyone using privoxy here? Can I ask for help about it?
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684[03:28:49] <Sabotender> greetings, in debian, the best way to completely clone a drive from one to another is the dd command, yes?
685[03:31:32] <rgwu> To copy raw bytes, yes. To copy files between differing filesystems, rsync is your friend.
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687[03:32:02] <rjsalts> Sabotender: there are also tools that will copy drives/partitions that are more efficient than dd
688[03:32:31] <Sabotender> meh, just looking for the quick & dirty method
689[03:33:07] <rjsalts> Sabotender: e.g. dd will spend time copying all the 0s, there are some backup utilities which compress that. dd is pretty quick and dirty and has much less setup than said tools though
690[03:33:12] <Sabotender> im cloning a small drive (30gb) to a larger one (120GB) because 30gb is ridiculously small
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692[03:33:25] <Sabotender> i can expand the partition later
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694[03:33:32] <missmbob> !clonezilla
695[03:33:33] <dpkg> Clonezilla Live is a live CD based on Debian, providing disk/partition cloning functionality similar to Symantec Ghost. Basically a front-end to <partimage>, <partclone>, <ntfsclone>, sfdisk and others. replaced-url
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697[03:33:51] <rgwu> You should create the filesystem and rsync the files over.
698[03:34:02] <rgwu> Especially if you don't care about the time.
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701[03:34:38] <iflema> cp -a
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703[03:35:02] <k_sze[work]> ldconfig is idempotent, right?
704[03:35:05] <missmbob> cp is probably the worst method possible
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706[03:35:18] <ryouma> cp is as fast as rsync the first time, i think
707[03:35:21] <rgwu> rsync can at least continue in case of power failure or something like that.
708[03:35:25] <k_sze[work]> I can run it many times and the result would be the same?
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711[03:35:52] <ryouma> if rsync
712[03:36:03] <ryouma> oh oops you asked about ldconfig
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723[03:42:08] <iflema> missmbob: oh.. i left out the v :P
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733[03:46:17] <Vainglory> is mozilla.debian.net available as a tor onion?
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739[03:51:09] <TomTomTosch> only the default jessie, updates, security and the tor repo afaik.
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812[04:26:00] <Admins> How to take dpkg offline?
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861[04:58:30] <Jaggz> I can't get ubuntu or debian install's to get further than a split second after hitting enter at a boot menu option
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864[05:00:19] <jmcnaught> Jaggz: which debian iso did you try, what is the file name or URL? how did you copy it to a boot device, what command did you use?
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868[05:00:48] <jmcnaught> and have you tried a different USB stick?
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874[05:03:00] <Jaggz> I tried stable x64 and testing i386
875[05:03:13] <Jaggz> tried a 16gb stick and just now an 8gb
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877[05:03:31] <Jaggz> actually wait, I didn't try the 8gb yet (had to transfer images off)
878[05:03:41] <Jaggz> it was from a family member with photos and vids on it :)
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881[05:04:59] <Jaggz> gonna try pulling the video card..
882[05:05:18] <Jaggz> cept I'll need to run a vga->dvi cable then.. but no biggie
883[05:05:41] <Jaggz> so much time!
884[05:05:42] <Jaggz> :)
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902[05:12:53] <blubee> hi guys, would compiling a newer version of the linux kernel 4.7 cause compatibility issues with jessie?
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993[05:46:05] <AkQ> hi ! i installed Debian on my OVH server 3 days ago with basic LAMP and few other minor packages - but now OVH manager says that the disk space is running out (24,95gb / 25gb used) :S how can i detect what is taking space
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995[05:46:06] <TomTomTosch> blubee: there is always the 4.6 kernel in jessie-backports. a little less unpredictable.
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999[05:47:21] <cq1> Has anyone else noticed that 4.6 kernel changes to get_user_pages totally break installing CUDA and the nvidia-driver package? Does anyone know any workaround?
1000[05:47:23] <TomTomTosch> AkQ: /var/log is a good place to start. sometimes log files like to fill up.
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1003[05:48:37] <AkQ> TomTomTosch: my /var/log is taking 672k so it's not that right?
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1006[05:49:52] <AkQ> i checked with df -h and it says this: replaced-url
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1008[05:50:38] <AkQ> it makes me think that something is wrong - either my server is already compromised (!) or OVH manager is somehow wrong .. how is that even possible, no idea :o
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1021[05:58:36] <_hwaseo> i just installed jessie with xfce4 and i was wondering if anyone knows how to get pcmanfm to recognize my android phone
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1024[06:00:04] <rjsalts> AkQ: how is OVH monitoring the server? ssh? snmp? something else? maybe they're getting the data from the wrong source, or are caching data from some bogus response
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1029[06:02:58] <AkQ> rjsalts: no idea :o
1030[06:03:32] <sypher> OVH is one of the worst hosting providers on Earth.
1031[06:03:39] <AkQ> it's cheap x)
1032[06:03:49] <sypher> AkQ: You get LESS than you pay for with them.
1033[06:04:32] <rjsalts> I've had much worse hosting providers than ovh
1034[06:04:37] <AkQ> sypher: well you got better option? :/ i couldn't find any cheap VPS with *fasT* ssd and good single core performance - at least they offer nvme ssd and 3,1ghz cpu with 9,90e/m
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1038[06:09:45] <sypher> rjsalts: I have yet to find something worse than OVH. Then again, I don't try to look.
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1040[06:10:13] <AkQ> sypher so where is better?
1041[06:10:16] <sypher> AkQ: What are your actual needs?
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1044[06:10:48] <AkQ> single core speed is my top priority and also disk speed
1045[06:10:59] <sypher> AkQ: Okay, clarifying. What are you doing with it?
1046[06:11:07] <AkQ> mmorpg-server
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1048[06:12:20] <AkQ> for these requirements, the ovh cloud vps looked like the perfect solution - ofc it won't be but a temporary, the server will grow and i will have to move on a dedicated game-server on some point
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1073[06:25:25] <Ori_B> Hey, I
1074[06:25:33] <Ori_B> ...am failing at typing.
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1077[06:26:32] <Ori_B> I am also having trouble with opendkim under systemd.
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1080[06:26:56] <Ori_B> replaced-url
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1083[06:27:45] <Ori_B> it looks like it's trying to be run with the '-P' option with no parameter, which is supposed to take a pidfile parameter.
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1088[06:28:59] <Ori_B> now, I can edit that file, but then systemd complains about the file having changed on disk, and gives me a command that clobbers it.
1089[06:29:04] <Ori_B> how do I go about fixing the problem?
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1133[06:55:35] <Ori_B> ok, had to reboot.
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1135[06:55:53] <Ori_B> so... should I repost the question?
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1138[06:57:39] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: which version of Debian are you using?
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1140[06:58:31] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: i use opendkim, but it has an init script, not a systemd service unit on jessie as far as i can tell
1141[06:58:56] <Ori_B> jmcnaught: testing.
1142[06:59:15] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: running a mail server on testing sounds like a bad idea
1143[06:59:48] <Ori_B> this is the first problem I've had in about a decade of doing it.
1144[07:00:04] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: replaced-url
1145[07:00:05] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1146[07:00:27] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: testing is usually the last to get security updates, and stuff changes and breaks in it sometimes
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1149[07:01:01] <Ori_B> yes, it looks similar
1150[07:01:29] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: oh i see, the fixed package looks like it's still in experimental
1151[07:01:35] <jmcnaught> ,v opendkim
1152[07:01:36] <judd> Package: opendkim on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.1+dfsg-1; squeeze-backports: 2.6.8-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.6.8-4; jessie: 2.9.2-2; sid: 2.10.3-5; stretch: 2.10.3-5; experimental: 2.11.0~alpha-6
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1154[07:02:15] <Ori_B> I looked at /etc/default/opendkim, but it doesn't seem to have a comment at the end of it :/
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1157[07:03:02] <jmcnaught> what about the order that parameters are in?
1158[07:04:15] <Ori_B> where?
1159[07:05:15] <Ori_B> DAEMON_OPTS="-x /etc/opendkim.conf -u $USER -P $PIDFILE $DAEMON_OPTS"
1160[07:05:29] <Ori_B> somehow, when it gets through to systemd, the '$PIDFILE' seems to not make it through.
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1162[07:06:22] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: did you see messages #35 and #42 in that bug?
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1164[07:07:12] <Ori_B> so, for #35, when I try to remove it by hand, systemd complains that the file has changed and forces me to edit it again.
1165[07:07:19] <Ori_B> [will repro and paste output, give me a second.]
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1167[07:08:12] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: did you run "systemctl daemon-reload" after changing the service unit?
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1171[07:10:51] <Ori_B> by "service unit", you mean /lib/systemd/system/opendkim.service?
1172[07:11:03] <jmcnaught> yes
1173[07:11:43] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: note that in #42 the maintainer is moving the -p argument to the front, not removing it
1174[07:12:27] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: oh also you don't want to edit /lib/systemd/system/opendkim.service, copy it to /etc/systemd/systemd/ and makes changes to that file
1175[07:13:07] <Ori_B> so, whatever starting the service does seems to regenerate the bogus file.
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1177[07:13:25] <Ori_B> ah, just noticed
1178[07:13:29] <Ori_B> ExecStartPre=-/bin/sh /lib/opendkim/opendkim.service.generate
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1181[07:14:16] <Ori_B> which probably.. yep. it's buggy.
1182[07:14:28] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: i'm not using opendkim on any testing systems so i'm not quite sure how the systemd units work, like i said on jessie it's still an LSB init script
1183[07:14:31] <jmcnaught> but it works
1184[07:14:59] <Ori_B> opendkim.service.generate checks /etc/default/opendkim
1185[07:15:13] <Ori_B> if that exists, it skips setting the defaults for things like RUNDIR, PIDFILE, ...
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1187[07:15:57] <Ori_B> but /etc/defaults only sets the process.
1188[07:16:35] <Ori_B> it should probably set them, and then source /etc/defaults/opendkim to override them, not sure.
1189[07:16:47] <Ori_B> either way, easy fix; set everything in /etc/defaults.
1190[07:17:14] <Ori_B> that fixed it.
1191[07:17:15] <Ori_B> thanks.
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1236[07:40:06] <jmcnaught> Ori_B: oh i didn't notice but it looks like the version in unstable was fixed too. opendkim 2.10.3-5
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1241[07:42:25] <Ori_B> jmcnaught: ah, in any case, I've got a workaround for now. :)
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1243[07:43:28] <gonano> i'm going to install debian 8.5, how is it working?
1244[07:44:14] <ransur0t> gonano: very broad question ... so, what hardware will you be installing upon?
1245[07:45:28] <gonano> i know, but my english is not too expresive :D
1246[07:46:12] <gonano> It's a notebook with 2Gb RAM 2.2GHz, and thats all
1247[07:46:23] <gonano> she has 6 years now
1248[07:46:54] <ransur0t> it'll run fine, biggest consideration will be the desktop you choose ...
1249[07:47:05] <anonnumberanon> apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install Firefox ESR. Why? I'm running Iceweasel 38.7.1
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1252[07:47:29] <ransur0t> jessie made the switch to Firefox a few months back ....
1253[07:47:30] <anonnumberanon> Also this seems to show the browser is a strainer replaced-url
1254[07:47:49] <jmcnaught> anonnumberanon: replaced-url
1255[07:47:54] <gonano> thank you
1256[07:48:00] <ransur0t> yw
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1259[07:48:38] <gonano> yeah, i was using debian 8.0 with xfce and it accomplished the expectations
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1261[07:49:26] <gonano> but while i was tocuhing some files, the graphic interface crashed and didn't know how to solve it
1262[07:50:21] <ransur0t> have you tried a apt-get dist-upgrade?
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1264[07:50:39] <gonano> ehemmm
1265[07:50:40] <gonano> me?
1266[07:50:45] <ransur0t> yes
1267[07:50:57] <anonnumberanon> "may lead to the execution of arbitrary code" in the context of a browser, how dangerous to the OS?
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1270[07:51:47] <gonano> i don't know how to connect to WiFi from the terminal
1271[07:51:54] <gonano> I'll probe
1272[07:52:15] <jmcnaught> gonano: try nmtui
1273[07:52:43] <ransur0t> replaced-url
1274[07:52:50] <gonano> alright
1275[07:53:19] <gonano> i don't remember the problem, but i touched a very sensible file
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1278[07:53:43] <ransur0t> have you tried a virus scan with clamav?
1279[07:54:17] <gonano> yes, nothing there
1280[07:54:42] <gonano> one of these days i'll let you know how your advices worked
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1283[07:57:16] <jmcnaught> gonano: what was the file that you modified?
1284[07:57:34] <gonano> I don't remember hermano
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1287[07:58:14] <jmcnaught> gonano: is Debian installed on the computer but it has a problem starting?
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1289[07:59:20] <gonano> it is installed, but when it starts there is no graphics at all, just the login from a tty
1290[07:59:23] <jmcnaught> anonnumberanon: it could be if combined with a privilege escalation exploit. also consider that the browser runs as your regular user that owns all your files
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1292[08:00:10] <jmcnaught> gonano: "systemctl status display-manager.service" any clues there?
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1294[08:00:56] <mi11k1> is there a DVD image x86 that I can just copy to a SD card?
1295[08:01:44] <mi11k1> sorry I didn't mean DVD
1296[08:01:48] <anonnumberanon> mi11k1's question brings back some desperate memories
1297[08:01:53] <mi11k1> or do you like just installed to get the card and then just DD to make an image for future use
1298[08:02:19] <gonano> don't know jmcnaught
1299[08:02:28] <gonano> i'll let you know
1300[08:02:38] <jmcnaught> mi11k1: what are you trying to install Debian on?
1301[08:02:49] <gonano> i'm a fan of linux, but some things exceed my knowledges
1302[08:03:11] <jmcnaught> gonano: that checks the status of your display manager, the program that provides a graphical login
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1304[08:03:20] <mi11k1> I just have a single core Athlon and I just need to use it as a server temporarily
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1306[08:03:25] <gonano> sorry for my english
1307[08:03:40] <gonano> ok
1308[08:03:44] <mi11k1> it has Debian on it now, but I need to run it off of fresh SD card
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1311[08:04:18] <jmcnaught> mi11k1: are you planning on booting the installer from the SD card, or installing Debian onto the SD card?
1312[08:04:26] <mi11k1> I don't want to make any predictions or anything, it runs off an SD card, but I don't have a copy of that image I was just wondering if I could if there's an image exist that I can just DD it to a card and boot
1313[08:04:49] <mi11k1> partitions*
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1316[08:05:25] <mi11k1> yeah, I need to run it off an SD card or USB
1317[08:05:37] <mi11k1> just hoping I can skip the install
1318[08:06:08] <jmcnaught> mi11k1: if you cannot make an image of what's running now and use that, you should run debootstrap or the installer and install Debian to the new boot device
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1320[08:06:21] <mi11k1> there's a deviant it's true I tried one time maybe bunson
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1323[08:06:37] <mi11k1> debian*
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1325[08:08:00] <mi11k1> jmcnaught: I've never done that
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1327[08:08:15] <jmcnaught> mi11k1: you've never run the debian installer?
1328[08:08:30] <mi11k1> maybe it's a good time to learn, no make an image
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1330[08:08:48] <jmcnaught> mi11k1: fortunately there's an excellent install manual: replaced-url
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1332[08:09:18] <mi11k1> I'm pretty new, I'm pretty decent, a lot of stuff tried yet
1333[08:09:26] <jmcnaught> gonano: if you want people to look at the output of commands that they've suggested you can use replaced-url
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1335[08:09:52] <jmcnaught> gonano: in your IRC client do "/msg dpkg pastebinit" for a way to paste from the command line
1336[08:10:19] <gonano> thank you so much!
1337[08:10:23] <jmcnaught> gonano: you could for example put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the paste site with pastebinit
1338[08:10:28] <gonano> i was going to format everything
1339[08:10:48] <mi11k1> windows style format
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1342[08:11:13] <mi11k1> a: your c: and del your ..
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1344[08:11:35] <mi11k1> then run 15 hours of upgrades
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1346[08:12:07] <gonano> it's just a saying
1347[08:12:25] <gonano> i was going to remove everything because my partitions are a mess
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1349[08:12:41] <mi11k1> well just make sure you have at least half a screen of toolbars in your browser
1350[08:12:51] <gonano> doing a bootable usb
1351[08:13:10] <jim_carry> my lanuage fonts are not displayable well in chromium. Can anyone help me?
1352[08:13:37] <mi11k1> change your fonts
1353[08:14:03] <jim_carry> doesn't work
1354[08:14:06] <gonano> why? millkl
1355[08:14:12] <mi11k1> or learn a new language
1356[08:14:23] <mi11k1> I dunno I'm just being a jerk
1357[08:14:27] <mi11k1> sorry
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1359[08:14:46] <jim_carry> mi11k1: okay jerk
1360[08:14:48] <mi11k1> I'll go into Ubuntu to be a jerk
1361[08:15:22] <mi11k1> sorry Jim carry what language is your preference?
1362[08:15:44] <jim_carry> Punjabi
1363[08:16:04] <mi11k1> your system is default punjabi?
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1366[08:16:32] <jim_carry> No english I only open some punjabi websites, rest all my work in english
1367[08:16:33] <mi11k1> and just chromium isn't rendering the fonts?
1368[08:16:37] <jim> hmm?
1369[08:16:54] <Wally> You're missing some rendering system I reckon, Unicode?
1370[08:16:54] <mi11k1> just use translate maybe ?
1371[08:16:56] <jim_carry> I open websites only in chromium
1372[08:17:14] <mi11k1> what's one of the sites ?
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1374[08:17:22] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: do you have fonts-guru installed?
1375[08:17:40] <jim_carry> jmcnaught: Where should I install, in chromium?
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1378[08:18:00] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: it is a Debian package that you can install with apt-get
1379[08:18:05] <mi11k1> I have terminator I never resolved with fonts screwing up
1380[08:18:09] <jim_carry> I am on arch :P
1381[08:18:11] <mi11k1> no apt
1382[08:18:18] <Wally> So why are you asking here?
1383[08:18:19] <mi11k1> search apt
1384[08:18:24] <mi11k1> haha
1385[08:18:29] <jim_carry> Wally: No one helping me thats why
1386[08:18:35] <mi11k1> oh shit
1387[08:18:40] <jim_carry> But its linux issue
1388[08:18:45] <mi11k1> just translate the page
1389[08:18:45] <Wally> Kinda expected..
1390[08:18:47] <Wally> lol
1391[08:18:48] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: try asking in the arch channel, or ##linux
1392[08:18:56] <Wally> It's not really a good solution though mi11k1
1393[08:19:05] <Wally> jim_carry have you added punjabi to Chromium?
1394[08:19:15] <Wally> replaced-url
1395[08:19:16] <jim_carry> I have asked on arch channel.
1396[08:19:31] <jim_carry> In system I have installed punjabi fonts but they not displayed well
1397[08:19:33] <Wally> You need to explicitally add languages IMHO
1398[08:19:37] <jim_carry> jmcnaught: mi11k1 is jerk
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1400[08:19:55] <Wally> Could be graphics drivers?
1401[08:20:04] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: this channel is only for Debian. On Debian there is a fonts-guru package that you could install. You'll need to be patient and wait for an answer in #arch
1402[08:20:05] <mi11k1> I'm not being a jerk anymore
1403[08:20:21] <gonano> ajjjjaa
1404[08:20:25] <gonano> stop please
1405[08:20:26] <Wally> perhaps yeah ask in ##linux :)
1406[08:20:27] <mi11k1> yah I had to turn off advances setting about using acceleration
1407[08:20:30] <jim_carry> It's been 2 days I don't get solution
1408[08:20:38] <mi11k1> what's that a dress
1409[08:20:40] <Wally> We understand you're frustrated aye.
1410[08:20:58] <mi11k1> haha what is that address you put into the bar for all those hidden Futures and chromium?
1411[08:21:13] <Wally> about::plugins isn't it?
1412[08:21:28] <Wally> I dunno. I use Safari.
1413[08:21:30] <mi11k1> I only checked it out once I've never actually changed anything, but there's tons of stuff in there
1414[08:21:53] <jim_carry> help me
1415[08:22:00] <Wally> ...
1416[08:22:03] <Wally> not with that attitude
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1418[08:22:07] <mi11k1> what's one of the urls
1419[08:22:10] <Wally> unless you're going to pay me :P
1420[08:22:12] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: you're welcome to give Debian a try
1421[08:22:16] <jim_carry> Wally: I can pay you bro
1422[08:22:18] <jmcnaught> !ot
1423[08:22:18] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
1424[08:22:40] <jim> jim_carry, only a little as far as I can tell, and he's trying to be cool now... just curious... do you have enough free (unpartitioned) disk space if you wanted to try debian?
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1426[08:22:56] <mi11k1> run docket or a vm
1427[08:23:07] <jim_carry> I am on petaboot system
1428[08:23:11] <mi11k1> docker *
1429[08:23:12] <jim_carry> pentaboot
1430[08:23:16] <Wally> why?
1431[08:23:25] <jim> oh, 5 oses?
1432[08:23:29] <jim_carry> yesh
1433[08:23:34] <Wally> crazy lol
1434[08:23:45] <jim_carry> but arch is my main
1435[08:23:49] <jim_carry> I am just learning stuff
1436[08:23:58] <Wally> likewise :)
1437[08:24:05] <jim> I see, because you were curious
1438[08:24:14] <Wally> What OS's are you running other than Arch? :)
1439[08:24:27] <jim_carry> debian ubuntu fedora centos
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1441[08:24:39] <Wally> ah!
1442[08:24:42] <jim> ohh, so you -do- run debian...
1443[08:24:58] <Wally> Hey it's not a crime to want to run other OS's
1444[08:25:20] <mi11k1> can you make a profile for chromium that's punjabi?
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1446[08:25:38] <Wally> does Chromium work with punjabi on other OS's
1447[08:25:49] <slax0r> 5? only reason I'm dual booting is because I can't run the games I play on linux
1448[08:25:53] <jim_carry> yeah I've tried on mac
1449[08:25:54] <mi11k1> what desktop environment are you using?
1450[08:25:56] <slax0r> I asume you're not trying to do that
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1452[08:25:58] <slax0r> so why not VM?
1453[08:26:03] <Wally> Other than MacOS.
1454[08:26:17] <jim> of course not... and, you could try to install the punjabi stuff on debian and find out how here (you don't have to do that now)
1455[08:26:33] <Wally> Does it work in other browsers?
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1457[08:26:37] <Wally> Try firefox?
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1462[08:26:48] <jim_carry> I don't like firefox.
1463[08:26:52] <mi11k1> have you ever tried virtualbox?
1464[08:26:53] <Wally> .. Just try it.
1465[08:26:57] <jim_carry> yaeh mi11k1
1466[08:27:01] <Wally> It'll rule out issues with chromium
1467[08:27:15] <mi11k1> try chrome
1468[08:27:17] <jim_carry> I have /home shared between all installed distros
1469[08:27:27] <jim_carry> I mainly use arch
1470[08:27:32] <Wally> bbl
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1472[08:27:44] <mi11k1> try running chromium in app mode
1473[08:27:55] <jim> potentially, you could install it, try it, see if the issues are present in firefox, and then remove it if you want
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1475[08:28:11] <mi11k1> chromium --app=http.......
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1478[08:28:51] <jim_carry> jim: firefox would work because there is punjabi language pack for firefox
1479[08:28:58] <jmcnaught> perhaps people interested in helping jim_carry with their Arch issue could move the discussion to #archlinux
1480[08:29:14] <jim_carry> jmcnaught: why
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1482[08:29:23] <jim_carry> racism
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1484[08:29:42] <mi11k1> same reason why you don't go to the hospital if you're hungry
1485[08:29:44] <jim> no, distism :) and they have that right
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1488[08:30:04] <mi11k1> or are you go to the dentist if your house is on fire
1489[08:30:05] <jmcnaught> jim_carry: because this is not a Debian issue. Chromium shows Punjabi fonts just fine on my system. Go ask the people using Arch how to fix the problem on Arch
1490[08:30:05] <jim_carry> mi11k1: You need something call you momma
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1492[08:30:31] <jim_carry> what will harm you if you would help me jmcnaught
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1494[08:30:41] <jim_carry> we are learning linux
1495[08:30:45] <mi11k1> we've already been helping you, and there's like 5 people helping you and it's not going anywhere
1496[08:30:57] <mi11k1> what is there for you know Channel 4 chromium there has to be
1497[08:31:04] <jim> jim_carry, come on now, don't play the hostility card... anyway. do you want to boot debian and try it while you're here?
1498[08:31:15] <mi11k1> chromium freenode*
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1500[08:31:27] <jim_carry> I don't have hostility card jim
1501[08:31:38] <jim_carry> yeah I will try debian it is very nice
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1504[08:31:50] <mi11k1> kind of usually when you start telling you to go to other places like everyone's tapped out of ideas
1505[08:32:10] <mi11k1> so then they're helping you by telling you where you should be looking for help
1506[08:32:13] <jim> jim_carry, I thought it would be convenient since you actually have it already
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1508[08:32:25] <jim_carry> jim: what
1509[08:32:45] <mi11k1> Jim is right but the guy is just stubborn I guess
1510[08:32:52] <jim_carry> Okay friends thnk you
1511[08:32:58] <jim_carry> mi11k1: why friend?
1512[08:33:22] <mi11k1> you're using all these fancy things, and you have all these tools at your disposal but you're not using them
1513[08:33:45] <mi11k1> try Debian
1514[08:33:54] <jim_carry> mi11k1: Okay brother
1515[08:34:01] <jim_carry> or sister
1516[08:34:08] <mi11k1> maybe you will just start using Debian and say it's better than Arch
1517[08:34:21] <jim_carry> yeah it is very nice but it has old packages
1518[08:34:30] <jim_carry> and my dot files won't work with it
1519[08:34:35] <mi11k1> there's back ports
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1523[08:34:48] <mi11k1> run testing or unstable
1524[08:34:57] <jim_carry> I am running jessie
1525[08:34:58] <mi11k1> try docker
1526[08:35:03] <jim_carry> what is docker
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1529[08:35:13] <mi11k1> I thought u were on arch?
1530[08:35:23] <jim_carry> yeah I am doing penta boot you know
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1532[08:35:33] <mi11k1> it's like a vm, but not quite
1533[08:35:48] <jim_carry> vm need resources which I don't have
1534[08:35:49] <mi11k1> I don't even know what that is all my computers are old
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1536[08:36:09] <mi11k1> it doesn't use barely any resources
1537[08:36:16] <jim_carry> what is docker?
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1540[08:36:33] <gonano> guys what do you think about the future of this project?
1541[08:36:49] <jim_carry> I have tried virtualbox mi11k1 it need more memory to run smoothly
1542[08:36:55] <mi11k1> look it up, they are containers and it's easy to try just different stuff out problem is you have to know some tricks to get display to work, like forwarding ex or something
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1544[08:37:13] <mi11k1> well you probably did install the client additions either, you need those for it to run good
1545[08:37:15] <anikras> jim_carry, try vagrant
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1547[08:37:44] <jim_carry> anikras: what is difference between vagrant and virtualbox ? I can run virtualbox fromcommandline what is the point of vagrant?
1548[08:37:45] <mi11k1> you could run chromium on a Jessie vm with
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1550[08:38:04] <mi11k1> less that 512ram
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1552[08:38:19] <jim_carry> mi11k1: very clunky unresponsive
1553[08:38:24] <anikras> jim_carry, you don't need interface, only terminal
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1555[08:38:43] <jim_carry> anikras: virtualbox has headless mode
1556[08:38:46] <mi11k1> virtualbox has a CLI if you want to use it and it has headless support
1557[08:38:55] <jim_carry> yeah
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1559[08:39:08] <jim_carry> then what vagrant is?
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1561[08:39:32] <jim_carry> something like , prebuilt os images?
1562[08:39:40] <mi11k1> run chromium in Kiosk mode with no Wm
1563[08:39:42] <jim_carry> alreadly installed necessary stuff?
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1565[08:39:53] <jim_carry> is it right?
1566[08:39:55] <jim_carry> anikras:
1567[08:40:01] <anikras> jim_carry, more or less
1568[08:40:03] <jim_carry> mi11k1: what is kiosk?
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1570[08:40:19] <jim_carry> How can i run chromium on vagrant?
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1572[08:40:30] <anikras> jim_carry, you can download a clean image and run scripts for different environmments
1573[08:40:39] <mi11k1> it runs similar to app modem it's like full screen
1574[08:40:50] <mi11k1> try right now
1575[08:41:05] <mi11k1> chromium --kiosk
1576[08:41:07] <jim_carry> okay can you provide me resource about vagrant?
1577[08:41:14] <jim_carry> okay mi11k1
1578[08:41:23] <mi11k1> and put a url
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1580[08:41:55] <jim_carry> yeah it opens regular chromium window
1581[08:42:04] <mi11k1> man I just installed plasma desktop, it's pretty slick
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1584[08:42:22] <anikras> jim_carry, replaced-url
1585[08:42:29] <mi11k1> I've never tried KDE cause I thought it was a heavy load it, but this thing runs pretty slick
1586[08:42:36] <jim_carry> I am using Window manager
1587[08:43:21] <jim> ,v vagrant
1588[08:43:22] <judd> Package: vagrant on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.3-1; jessie: 1.6.5+dfsg1-2; sid: 1.8.4+dfsg-2; stretch: 1.8.4+dfsg-2
1589[08:43:50] <anikras> jim_carry, replaced-url
1590[08:43:53] <mi11k1> install a minimal Debian and try running chromium without a window manager
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1593[08:44:21] <jim> so, its packaged for debian...
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1595[08:44:29] <mi11k1> you never said what desktop environment you were using still I don't think
1596[08:44:43] <Wally> He said he was using arch
1597[08:44:59] <mi11k1> I don't know anything about arch
1598[08:45:03] <Wally> :)
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1600[08:45:12] <mi11k1> doesn't it have open box and all that?
1601[08:45:16] <jim> meetoo
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1603[08:45:38] <jim_carry> mi11k1: You talking to me?
1604[08:45:50] * jim_carry confused
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1607[08:46:08] <mi11k1> well whoever, I thought art was a distribution, and it had a choice of desktop environments
1608[08:46:16] <mi11k1> arch*
1609[08:46:22] <jim_carry> yes
1610[08:46:29] <jim_carry> I run i3 window manager
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1612[08:46:45] <jim_carry> not DE
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1614[08:47:08] <mi11k1> try a different environment that I 3 thing is kind of like a kid's toy
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1616[08:47:19] <jim_carry> heh mi11k1
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1618[08:47:42] <mi11k1> Try mate
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1620[08:47:52] <jim_carry> shiat
1621[08:47:59] <mi11k1> that one you use his laser beams and stuff weird sounds all the time
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1623[08:48:26] <jim_carry> I don't like heavy guis
1624[08:48:37] <mi11k1> in Pokemon
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1626[08:48:39] <jim_carry> I like xfce but that requires mouse to operate
1627[08:48:50] <jim_carry> I3 is completly keyboard centric
1628[08:49:07] <jim_carry> I don't have mouse with my computer
1629[08:49:11] <mi11k1> try awesome
1630[08:49:23] <jim_carry> I'll try
1631[08:49:32] <jim_carry> you run awesome?
1632[08:49:37] <mi11k1> I like openbox
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1635[08:49:49] <mi11k1> I have an install that use it sometimes it depends on what I'm doing
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1637[08:50:01] <jim_carry> I only tried i3 and it isvery nice
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1640[08:50:15] <mi11k1> yeah, they call that eye candy
1641[08:50:17] <jim_carry> what feature does openbox awesome has
1642[08:50:31] <mi11k1> lightweight that's about it
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1644[08:50:44] <jim_carry> I mean how they are different from i3
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1647[08:51:00] <jim_carry> i3 is lightest
1648[08:51:01] <mi11k1> look up a distribution called crunchbang or its successorbunson
1649[08:51:16] <jim_carry> nothing is better that i3 that I have seen
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1651[08:51:25] <mi11k1> I'm confusing it with Enlightenment I think
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1654[08:51:42] <mi11k1> sorry
1655[08:51:46] <jim_carry> pardon
1656[08:52:10] <mi11k1> I'm thinking of e17 or whatever it's called
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1658[08:52:41] <jim_carry> I suggest you to try arch once, and pm me how debian is better than arch
1659[08:52:47] <mi11k1> it's got all these bells and whistles and crazy things going on in it.
1660[08:52:58] <mi11k1> yeah I'm downloading it right now I'm going to install it on virtualbox
1661[08:53:11] <jim_carry> Okay
1662[08:53:21] <jim_carry> Have you heard of AUR?
1663[08:53:29] <mi11k1> apparently it's a really good distribution and it has really good support
1664[08:53:42] <mi11k1> but I've tried a bunch of stuff and deviance seems to be where my home is
1665[08:53:54] <jim_carry> yeah debian is good for servers and old sitizens
1666[08:53:54] <mi11k1> debian*
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1668[08:54:33] <mi11k1> you can put your stuff on it if you want cutting eggs and you go
1669[08:54:33] <jim_carry> Oh I am debian channel
1670[08:54:40] <mi11k1> haha oops
1671[08:54:41] <Wally> cutting eggs lol
1672[08:54:55] <Wally> Did it really take you that long to realise jim_carry?
1673[08:54:57] <mi11k1> speech to text on an Android
1674[08:55:03] <jim_carry> Wally: yeah sorryyy
1675[08:55:13] <mi11k1> that's amazing
1676[08:55:23] <mi11k1> truly bud
1677[08:55:35] <Wally> You're full of shit xD
1678[08:55:43] <mi11k1> why didn't anybody drop any hints about Debian come on guys
1679[08:55:53] <jim_carry> heh
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1681[08:56:14] <mi11k1> redirect the people to their proper channels next time?
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1683[08:56:47] <jim> if he doesn['t like it, he doesn;t like it... I'm not going to try convincing him otherwise...
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1685[08:57:16] <jim_carry> I only like two distributions arch and debian, my parents use debian
1686[08:57:23] <jim_carry> :)
1687[08:57:31] <jim_carry> ?1
1688[08:57:36] <mi11k1> so that's why you said it's for old people?
1689[08:57:45] <jim_carry> my parents are old
1690[08:57:50] <jim_carry> Im 22
1691[08:58:22] <mi11k1> all the distributions are aimed at people young and old at the same time really
1692[08:58:25] <jim_carry> I think due to language barrier some people misunderstood me
1693[08:58:33] <mi11k1> it's kind of like you make it what you want i
1694[08:58:45] <jim_carry> I don't agree bro
1695[08:58:54] <mi11k1> I think everyone did
1696[08:59:04] <jim_carry> your thinking is not right
1697[08:59:11] <jim> but traffic about arch, they could zap you for that
1698[08:59:22] <jim_carry> who
1699[08:59:28] <mi11k1> that's fine, that's why you're stuck where you're at
1700[08:59:33] <jim_carry> yeah
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1702[09:00:00] <jim_carry> I am gonna run debian on next reboot
1703[09:00:15] <mi11k1> you have to keep looking for something better because there probably is something better than that will better suit your needs
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1705[09:00:23] <jim_carry> the only problem i don't run deian because it has old i3 package
1706[09:00:34] <mi11k1> build it
1707[09:00:40] <jim_carry> I don't know that kind of stuff
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1710[09:00:57] <mi11k1> do you know what backports is
1711[09:01:03] <jim_carry> no
1712[09:01:09] <mi11k1> or debian sid?
1713[09:01:21] <jim_carry> sid is unstabble
1714[09:01:26] <mi11k1> ok, I just dropped some hints then
1715[09:01:33] <jim_carry> sorry wheezy is stable
1716[09:01:41] <jim> jim_carry, and, people would be glad to help you with the problem you're having under debian here
1717[09:01:41] <jim_carry> and jessie is unstable nd testing
1718[09:01:42] <jim_carry> right?
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1720[09:01:46] <mi11k1> jessie
1721[09:01:52] <jim_carry> jim: Thank you
1722[09:02:20] <leafwiz> Hey. I want to kill my mate-terminal process, but it is run as pid 1. What will happen when i kill pid 1 ?
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1724[09:02:32] <jim_carry> it is init process
1725[09:02:46] <leafwiz> What I want to accompish is to kill all of my terminals
1726[09:02:55] <leafwiz> But I can't seem to find them under ps
1727[09:02:55] <jim_carry> killall -9 terminals
1728[09:02:56] <jim> jim_carry, it would be good if you boot debian and come back (you can install hexchat or whichever)
1729[09:03:06] <mi11k1> somebody is going to bitch at me but edit /etc/apt/sources.list
1730[09:03:16] <mi11k1> change jessie to testing
1731[09:03:33] <mi11k1> then do apt update and apt upgrade whatever
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1733[09:03:42] <jim_carry> okay jim
1734[09:03:49] <leafwiz> jim_carry: yes, I don't have any processes named mate-terminal
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1736[09:03:53] <leafwiz> except for one
1737[09:03:55] <leafwiz> and it has pid 1
1738[09:04:08] <jim> mi11k1, there are steps he should take before that if he really wants to run testing
1739[09:04:14] <jim_carry> Well I don't understand sources.list, I always mess it up
1740[09:04:16] <mi11k1> I know
1741[09:04:21] <jim_carry> help me understanding it
1742[09:04:46] <mi11k1> ok u use jessie right ?
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1744[09:04:53] <jim> ok... boot debian and we'll see what can be done
1745[09:05:05] <mi11k1> add to sources jessie back ports
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1747[09:05:20] <jim_carry> okay I am booting debian now
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1749[09:05:31] <mi11k1> just Google debian back ports
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1755[09:06:24] <mi11k1> I'm a newb too, but it's a simple to build from source package
1756[09:06:44] <mi11k1> for most stuff
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1759[09:07:41] <mi11k1> replaced-url
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1764[09:08:23] <Black-Ridder> hi erverybody
1765[09:08:32] <Wally> hi Black-Ridder
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1767[09:08:43] <jim> hi
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1769[09:09:09] <isLuks> Hi. I have a raw image file from a disk which contains 3 partitions, one of then encrypted with cryptsetup (LUKS). I can mount the first 2 (unencrypted) partitions providing the offset for the begining of the partition, but I'm facing difficulties mounting the encrypted one. Could someone provide me directions on this task?
1770[09:09:15] <mi11k1> Backwoods has like right up to date with the I3 web page
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1773[09:09:30] <mi11k1> backwoods haha
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1779[09:10:06] <mi11k1> bye Jim carry
1780[09:10:09] <Black-Ridder> i've broke my mysql packet, can you help me please? i've already tried to purge, -f install
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1783[09:10:20] <mi11k1> hi Jim carry
1784[09:10:48] <umbaman> hi...
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1786[09:10:55] <mi11k1> pastebin the output
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1788[09:11:09] <jim> did you reboot already?
1789[09:11:30] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Any databases you need to backup from that or just want a clean/fresh install of MySQL?
1790[09:11:30] <mi11k1> purge and install don't jive well
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1792[09:11:36] <umbaman> I want to access a pc in a windows network, but when i try to browse the network it asks for username and password...?
1793[09:11:56] <mi11k1> try guest
1794[09:12:02] <umbaman> ok will do
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1797[09:12:23] <mi11k1> is the share on windows or linux
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1800[09:13:08] <umbaman> several pcs under the WORKGROUP domain
1801[09:13:16] <mi11k1> try the credentials of the windows account you're trying to access
1802[09:13:17] <Black-Ridder> you'll see very fast the problem, cause i've deleted /var/mysql (not sure of the positions, it was at 2am haha) and /etc/mysql manualy (yes, i know,... bad idea,... and no save,... very bad idea)
1803[09:13:34] <Black-Ridder> yes i rebooted many times :(
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1805[09:13:50] <umbaman> nop
1806[09:13:54] <mi11k1> dpkg-reconfigure mysql
1807[09:13:56] <Black-Ridder> --purge and install no
1808[09:14:05] <Black-Ridder> not shared
1809[09:14:11] <umbaman> Am I missing any oackages..?
1810[09:14:15] <umbaman> like samba or something?
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1812[09:14:32] <Black-Ridder> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server not working
1813[09:14:37] <mi11k1> adduser user to shit
1814[09:14:45] <mi11k1> what's that group?
1815[09:14:55] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: apt-get remove --purge mysql-server && apt-get autoremove --purge
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1817[09:15:07] <mi11k1> try mysql*
1818[09:15:13] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Then, dpkg -l | grep -ie mysql
1819[09:15:23] <Black-Ridder> no any packages missing but i think many configuration file but the reinstallation dont regenerate them :/
1820[09:15:29] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Check that is being held back. Remove and reinstall mysql-server.
1821[09:15:31] <mi11k1> what's that group for shares?
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1824[09:16:14] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Probably because mysql-common, mysql-server-core or anything has been left behind
1825[09:16:26] <umbaman> mi11k1 r u talking top me?
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1827[09:16:39] <mi11k1> yah I can't think of the group
1828[09:17:06] <mi11k1> add yourself to ,,.., help me somebody
1829[09:17:23] <umbaman> there is a domain named WORKGROUP
1830[09:17:31] <umbaman> in which several pcs are connected
1831[09:17:32] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Remove mysql-server, then check what has been left behind with dpkg -l | grep -ie mysql
1832[09:17:39] <mi11k1> nono it's a group in linux
1833[09:17:51] <umbaman> the storage pc allows access to everyoine
1834[09:17:51] <mi11k1> for remote file systems and stuff
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1836[09:18:01] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Remove anything mysql server related and reinstall mysql-server package.
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1838[09:18:16] <mi11k1> no, gimme a second
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1840[09:18:21] <umbaman> i am trying to acess this domain using a debian pc
1841[09:18:23] <umbaman> ok
1842[09:18:45] <mi11k1> I know you have to add yourself tooo.....
1843[09:18:56] <umbaman> hmm
1844[09:18:57] <umbaman> ok
1845[09:19:02] <umbaman> how?
1846[09:19:10] <mi11k1> I can't believe I'm drawing a blank on this right niw
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1849[09:20:06] <Black-Ridder> he wants my password (mysql) but when i valide he said "impossible to change user's mysql password for root" (from french)
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1851[09:20:33] <mi11k1> fuse
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1853[09:20:42] <umbaman> ok
1854[09:20:42] <mi11k1> do adduser user fuse
1855[09:20:55] <Black-Ridder> invoke rc.d initscript mysql failed
1856[09:21:01] <mi11k1> and then log out and back in
1857[09:21:27] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Have you removed mysql-server and its dependencies?
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1859[09:21:35] <mi11k1> if the group doesn't exist just do addgroup fuse
1860[09:21:40] <umbaman> ok
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1865[09:22:33] <mi11k1> oh install cifs-utils
1866[09:23:06] <Black-Ridder> isLucks i've already tried that, it was my first idea, all delete and all restore but i've always my error
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1869[09:24:00] <mi11k1> dude disable the stuff, purge mysql*
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1873[09:24:33] <mi11k1> reboot , update upgrade and try and reinstall
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1875[09:24:44] <mi11k1> try with aptitude maybe
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1880[09:25:28] <mi11k1> I run that crap in docker now
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1883[09:26:25] <mi11k1> do you use mysql workbench?
1884[09:26:41] <mi11k1> it's a nice little proggy
1885[09:26:44] <Black-Ridder> no i don't use mysqlworkbeench :/
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1887[09:27:27] <mi11k1> oh, well I don't know a think about mysql, but I manage using that gui
1888[09:27:34] <mi11k1> or we vm in
1889[09:27:52] <isLuks> Black-Ridder: Do you have any instances of mysql server running?
1890[09:28:10] <mi11k1> haha, for sure he does
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1892[09:28:27] <mi11k1> reboot in safe mode a purge that crap
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1894[09:29:09] <Black-Ridder> not running, he dont want start on boot (and not after)
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1897[09:29:35] <mi11k1> if you just wanna mess with it, installed the author and just download a mysql docker image
1898[09:29:43] <Black-Ridder> in safe mode? there is a safe mode in linux?
1899[09:29:49] <mi11k1> docker*
1900[09:29:57] <mi11k1> in grub
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1902[09:30:16] <mi11k1> advanced and recovery or whatever
1903[09:30:20] <Black-Ridder> ho yes, and how to?
1904[09:30:21] <Black-Ridder> okay
1905[09:30:31] <mi11k1> that's what I do, I dunno
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1907[09:30:33] <Black-Ridder> grub => F8 is it?
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1909[09:30:47] <mi11k1> I just push arrow down
1910[09:30:50] <mi11k1> lol
1911[09:31:19] <mi11k1> enter, probably few more arrows and enter
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1914[09:31:25] <thnee> If I have an X instance running on a display that is not connected anymore, so I can't see it - how do I configure it with xrandr so that it shows up on the current monitor?
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1916[09:31:47] <mi11k1> reboot
1917[09:31:50] <Black-Ridder> i'll try
1918[09:31:51] <thnee> the usual xrandr command that I normally run, doesn't work from the ctrl+alt+2 prompt (outside of the server itself)
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1921[09:32:09] <Black-Ridder> found,
1922[09:32:20] <mi11k1> found what ?
1923[09:32:28] <thnee> it says X Error of failde request: BadMatch, and Minor opcode of failed request> 21 (RRSetCrtcConfig)
1924[09:32:33] <Black-Ridder> i'll make => apt-get autoremove --purge mysql-server
1925[09:32:36] <dirkk> Hi all, where to store a script that can be executed on the start ? Thanks
1926[09:32:36] <sn0wmonster> how do i enter ASCII characters like in Windows?
1927[09:32:36] <mi11k1> cause you can't do that
1928[09:32:44] <Black-Ridder> i'll make => apt-get autoremove --purge mysql-server-5.5
1929[09:32:49] <sn0wmonster> in Windows i'd just use ALT + number
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1933[09:32:56] <mi11k1> just do mysql*
1934[09:33:06] <Black-Ridder> okay thanks
1935[09:33:13] <thnee> I tried adding -d :0 to my xrandr command but it still doesnt want to run from that prompt..
1936[09:33:26] <Black-Ridder> and next i reboot and next i install?
1937[09:33:26] <mi11k1> haha
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1940[09:33:45] <mi11k1> I dunno did it find more junk to remove ?
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1944[09:35:02] <mi11k1> thnee try reading some stuff and configuring a dm
1945[09:35:32] <sn0wmonster> nevermind, found it. Debian requires using the hex value instead of decimal, and its CTRL + SHIFT + U
1946[09:35:54] <mi11k1> for what?
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1948[09:37:00] <mi11k1> I don't even what your trying to do man, lol, I just throw some random out there for you.
1949[09:37:23] <mi11k1> lol, man all this stuff pretty to find on Google
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1951[09:37:52] <mi11k1> I usually just come when really need to find some answers
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1954[09:39:10] <mi11k1> if you just tell Google in plain English what you want, it usually will help
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1959[09:40:16] <Black-Ridder> i think that's alright
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1962[09:41:28] <mi11k1> irc is where you come to find the guys that know the hard stuff.
1963[09:41:48] <umbaman> mi11k1
1964[09:41:55] <mi11k1> yo
1965[09:41:59] <umbaman> i asked again the network admin
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1967[09:42:14] <umbaman> and finally he remembered that you actually have to add a username and a password
1968[09:42:17] <mi11k1> did you install cifs-utils
1969[09:42:25] <umbaman> to access the specific network share
1970[09:42:34] <mi11k1> well it depends on the share
1971[09:42:39] <umbaman> yea
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1973[09:42:51] <umbaman> I just added the username and the password and im in
1974[09:42:52] <mi11k1> if it's a public share the
1975[09:42:53] <umbaman> so simple
1976[09:43:07] <umbaman> thank for your time
1977[09:43:19] <mi11k1> haha, well that was the first thing I assumed you did, lol
1978[09:43:34] <umbaman> :)
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1980[09:43:38] <umbaman> it was
1981[09:43:44] <umbaman> i did ask him
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1984[09:43:49] <umbaman> it;s never bad to ask again
1985[09:44:09] <mi11k1> but it might not have worked if you're linux user isn't in the fuse group
1986[09:44:19] <umbaman> hmm
1987[09:44:26] <umbaman> yes
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1989[09:44:39] <umbaman> i did that...probably this helped
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1991[09:45:08] <mi11k1> and cifs-utils you add a line to /etc/fstab and make it Permian
1992[09:45:14] <mi11k1> permanent
1993[09:46:04] <mi11k1> on the windows stuff, if there's public shares usually guest works or nobody maybe
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1998[09:49:30] <mi11k1> hey everybody , here's a question ..how do I get my stuff stop hanging if some of my shares are mia
1999[09:49:39] <mi11k1> and still auto mount
2000[09:49:50] <mi11k1> I hate h
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2002[09:50:06] <mi11k1> waiting for this time I was using the control thing to make it crash
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2005[09:51:59] <mi11k1> actually I guess I can just make a script for when I login
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2012[09:56:30] <thnee> please take a look at this regarding xrandr replaced-url
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2016[09:57:23] <mi11k1> there Santa I tried to help all these Ppl, can we just forget about all the other stuff? thanks Santa
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2019[09:57:56] <mi11k1> how many physical monitors do you have?
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2021[09:58:18] <thnee> currently connected, 1, like you can see in the output
2022[09:58:27] <mi11k1> I don't know anything about this stuff, but I'm going to try and help you anyways
2023[09:58:33] <thnee> oh, great
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2025[09:58:51] <mi11k1> so you have 2 monitors though?
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2027[09:59:27] <thnee> DP1 is disconnected yes
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2030[09:59:37] <mi11k1> do you have your video drivers installed properly?
2031[09:59:47] <thnee> yes
2032[10:00:09] <mi11k1> if it's a laptop sometimes sometimes through some stuff and by us for that or using that FN button and f8
2033[10:00:15] <mi11k1> or whatever
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2035[10:00:39] <mi11k1> there a package for using 2 monitors
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2041[10:01:54] <mi11k1> xinerama
2042[10:02:05] <mi11k1> or something like that
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2044[10:02:53] <mi11k1> you trying to run cheetah different servers on two screens?
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2046[10:03:03] <mi11k1> two*
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2048[10:03:58] <mi11k1> Google that, cuz you're something million different variations of the stuff
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2051[10:04:12] <AkQ> does anyone know where to rent Server in EU area, with the priority of single core performance and speed of the SSD - i've checked OVH and SoYouStart (also ovh) but many says OVH is bad and all that - also i've checked Hetzner but they have bad reputation about ddos attacks
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2055[10:04:51] <mi11k1> just proxy where you wanna go
2056[10:05:26] <mi11k1> is it for high traffic important stuff
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2058[10:05:33] <AkQ> it's for mmorpg server
2059[10:05:42] <mi11k1> what's that?
2060[10:05:53] <AkQ> massive multiplayer online roleplaying game -server
2061[10:06:11] <Disconsented> Its really just those two AkQ
2062[10:06:18] <mi11k1> just one anywhere
2063[10:06:22] <AkQ> Disconsented: that's what i am afraid of
2064[10:06:26] <Disconsented> just remember people with shitty experiences tend yo speak up
2065[10:06:40] <AkQ> yea, i have thought about that too
2066[10:06:51] <AkQ> those that have no bad experiences, don't say a word
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2068[10:07:16] <mi11k1> I dunno I use Chicago vps
2069[10:07:23] <mi11k1> it's now here's
2070[10:07:49] <mi11k1> near me, but for a couple of dollars a month I get usually pretty good service and low ping
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2072[10:08:05] <dirkk> Hi, is it possible to execute 'sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm/ stop' in a script
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2075[10:08:44] <mi11k1> well sudo will be looking for a password
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2080[10:10:28] <Disconsented> AkQ> I have a bunch of aquantences that use both
2081[10:10:33] <Disconsented> you'll probably be fine
2082[10:10:38] <mi11k1> how much memory and bandwidth does the game soak up?
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2084[10:10:43] <AkQ> Disconsented i sure hope so - thanks for info
2085[10:11:05] <mi11k1> cuz the processing speeds are pretty freaking fast on these things Alma I used to run aircrack on one it was kind of fun
2086[10:11:11] <AkQ> mi11k1 about 1gb ram. the bandwidth is a bit hard question - it's all about latency really
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2089[10:11:37] <mi11k1> do you have PayPal?
2090[10:11:42] <AkQ> sure - who doesn't
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2092[10:12:20] <mi11k1> so try one out, in like less than 5 minutes and $3 us you could have a a Wheezy server for a month you can try
2093[10:12:34] <AkQ> Jessie > Wheezy ?
2094[10:13:05] <mi11k1> well there is Jessie ones but the cheap ones they seem to have blocked out the Jessie images and I haven't really bothered trying to upgrade to Jessie using sources list
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2099[10:14:47] <mi11k1> the Wheezy images pretty decent for all that stuff usually, you can build stuff on there so fast or install stuff, and if you wanted to start a little girls go to the web UI and rebuild it in two seconds and start from scratch
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2108[10:16:41] <mi11k1> AkQ, lemme see if I can throw your thing up on one of my vps
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2111[10:17:19] <AkQ> empty server does take only 70mb of ram
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2117[10:19:10] <L0aD1nG> hello there
2118[10:19:27] <L0aD1nG> I have a weird problem my microsd card connected via usb is not recognised
2119[10:19:31] <L0aD1nG> any solution
2120[10:19:32] <L0aD1nG> ?
2121[10:19:41] <Black-Ridder> solved!
2122[10:19:51] <Black-Ridder> many thanks everybody
2123[10:19:55] <umbaman> unplug it plug it back
2124[10:19:59] <umbaman> and run dmesg
2125[10:20:02] <Black-Ridder> sorry for the time ;)
2126[10:20:10] <mi11k1> don't put SD card in USB slot
2127[10:20:16] <mi11k1> haha
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2129[10:20:18] <L0aD1nG> lol
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2131[10:20:22] <umbaman> hahaa
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2133[10:20:25] <L0aD1nG> with a usb adapter
2134[10:20:28] <L0aD1nG> ....
2135[10:20:38] <mi11k1> or are you using an hopefully
2136[10:20:39] <Black-Ridder> i have to go but i'll come back, see you ;)
2137[10:20:46] <mi11k1> k cya
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2140[10:20:53] <L0aD1nG> please help me I need to solve this
2141[10:21:03] <L0aD1nG> doesnt seem to have any real solution on the net
2142[10:21:07] <mi11k1> I think they wear out
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2144[10:21:24] <mi11k1> I have one that's messed no work
2145[10:21:28] <simonlnu> L0aD1nG: see syslog if it got detected.
2146[10:21:35] <mi11k1> no reason
2147[10:21:41] <simonlnu> L0aD1nG: otherwise eject it then re-try
2148[10:21:51] <mi11k1> and the card works fine
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2150[10:22:25] <L0aD1nG> i run dmesg | grep sd
2151[10:22:30] <L0aD1nG> and i get nothing
2152[10:22:31] <mi11k1> are you trying to copy an image to it
2153[10:22:32] <simonlnu> greb usb
2154[10:22:42] <umbaman> grep nothing
2155[10:22:45] <simonlnu> usb disconnect/connect
2156[10:22:48] <umbaman> just dmesg | tail
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2158[10:22:51] <mi11k1> it's messed
2159[10:22:58] <mi11k1> throw it away
2160[10:23:02] <umbaman> hahaa
2161[10:23:10] <mi11k1> I'm serious
2162[10:23:14] <simonlnu> if you have to say that's constructive, please be quiet. thanks.
2163[10:23:15] <umbaman> i know
2164[10:23:21] <umbaman> it;s just funny
2165[10:23:22] <simonlnu> have nothing to*
2166[10:23:27] <mi11k1> they're like at the dollar store
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2168[10:23:49] <L0aD1nG> i paste noe
2169[10:23:50] <mi11k1> if I'm desperate I'll put card in my phone and USB to linux
2170[10:23:51] <L0aD1nG> now
2171[10:24:00] <simonlnu> paste site, not here
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2173[10:24:10] <mi11k1> but no DD or anything
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2175[10:24:27] <L0aD1nG> replaced-url
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2178[10:25:03] <mi11k1> the last and she was talking about a camera or something
2179[10:25:31] <mi11k1> add yourself to dial out group and fuse
2180[10:25:37] <umbaman> is yous adapter working??
2181[10:25:46] <L0aD1nG> I ll check
2182[10:25:51] <L0aD1nG> but I think it does
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2184[10:25:56] <L0aD1nG> I will check on windows...
2185[10:25:56] <mi11k1> what the hell there's two people here with the same problem?
2186[10:26:19] <simonlnu> host adapter is obviously working.
2187[10:26:58] <umbaman> im talking about the usb card adapter
2188[10:27:26] <mi11k1> well what's on the card right now now
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2190[10:27:51] <mi11k1> do you got gparted?
2191[10:28:10] <simonlnu> L0aD1nG: try unplugging it, and put it in another port
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2193[10:28:16] <mi11k1> or the card is maybe messed if you have been messing DD
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2195[10:28:47] <mi11k1> put the card in a phone or something
2196[10:28:58] <mi11k1> see if it will format it
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2201[10:30:03] <simonlnu> L0aD1nG: try dmesg or syslog when you do insert it
2202[10:30:12] <mi11k1> or go get another at 711 or whatever minimart
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2206[10:30:36] <dezzo> join #offsec
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2208[10:31:48] <simonlnu> L0aD1nG: pmount is handy for mounting stuff like that at a terminal
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2210[10:32:03] <mi11k1> what is it for
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2212[10:32:25] <simonlnu> ,i pmount
2213[10:32:26] <judd> Package pmount (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: mount removable devices as normal user. Version: 0.9.23-3+b1; Size: 83.0k; Installed: 733k; RFA: #689854
2214[10:32:35] <mi11k1> what are you doing , raspberry
2215[10:32:48] <dezzo> hey #offsec
2216[10:33:00] <simonlnu> dezzo: you're not in #offsec
2217[10:33:00] <dezzo> dayum...again
2218[10:33:05] <dezzo> yeh...i saw it
2219[10:33:17] <dezzo> this client is driving me crazy
2220[10:33:22] <s0lid2> Anybody got solution to following issue with new debian stretch netinstall cds: stuck on "configure the package manager"
2221[10:33:23] <dezzo> sorry :)
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2223[10:34:10] <mi11k1> solid I hanged there too
2224[10:34:22] <simonlnu> hung
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2227[10:34:44] <mi11k1> I found it easier to upgrade from testing or whatever
2228[10:34:45] <simonlnu> anyway, good luck L0aD1nG
2229[10:35:10] <mi11k1> no it hanged
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2234[10:35:48] <mi11k1> sorry actually its it's probably still hanging somewhere
2235[10:37:03] <mi11k1> I didn't know there was proper whatever for it taking huge dump
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2238[10:37:22] <mi11k1> that's usury what I call it when it stops working
2239[10:37:49] <L0aD1nG> it is recognised on windows
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2241[10:38:11] <mi11k1> what file system is the card?
2242[10:38:20] <umbaman> unplug/plug run dmesg, paste output
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2246[10:39:19] <mi11k1> is window
2247[10:39:38] <mi11k1> telling you to format the frigging card?
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2251[10:40:32] <mi11k1> it's probably ntfs and you don't ntfs support installed on debian
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2254[10:40:57] <L0aD1nG> replaced-url
2255[10:41:02] <L0aD1nG> here is dmesg paste
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2257[10:41:45] <mi11k1> clear that crap
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2260[10:42:29] <mi11k1> and run dmsg with --follow
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2264[10:46:07] <L0aD1nG> i dont see any difference
2265[10:46:32] <L0aD1nG> except that the it hangs like it waits for input or something
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2272[10:50:59] <mi11k1> I don't see anything about shit getting plugged in
2273[10:51:11] <L0aD1nG> yea
2274[10:51:19] <L0aD1nG> dude it should go to the sdb
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2276[10:51:23] <umbaman> yes
2277[10:51:25] <mi11k1> it's probably not compliant to USB 3
2278[10:51:26] <L0aD1nG> /dev/sd*
2279[10:51:35] <L0aD1nG> cause it a usb, thats the usual
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2281[10:51:40] <umbaman> hmm
2282[10:51:41] <L0aD1nG> now I am checking the arch linux forums
2283[10:51:44] <mi11k1> do dms
2284[10:51:48] <umbaman> try runing hardinfo
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2286[10:52:02] <mi11k1> dmesg with -C
2287[10:52:03] <L0aD1nG> and I see that some microsd cards do work by default some others doesnt
2288[10:52:06] <L0aD1nG> for a guy there
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2290[10:52:28] <mi11k1> then plug it in and unplug it and pastebin the new dmesg
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2292[10:52:47] <umbaman> do you have any other cards that you know that they are working in linux?
2293[10:52:53] <mi11k1> I don't know, I hate looking at other peoples D message stuff with all the irrelevant stuff
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2298[10:53:08] <umbaman> then try dmesg|tail
2299[10:53:24] <mi11k1> doesn't that thing have a card reader?
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2301[10:53:56] <mi11k1> use a converter to micro
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2303[10:54:07] <mi11k1> because usually everybody has 10 or 15 of those
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2305[10:54:32] <umbaman> try a couple of different tool
2306[10:54:48] <umbaman> hwinfo or hardinfo
2307[10:54:49] <L0aD1nG> umbaman: no
2308[10:54:52] <rozie> did we had dmesg already?
2309[10:54:56] <L0aD1nG> but I am thinking about getting some
2310[10:55:03] <umbaman> thyes rozie
2311[10:55:06] <L0aD1nG> I have troubles with some really mean people
2312[10:55:08] <umbaman> yes rozie
2313[10:55:09] <L0aD1nG> and I need the videos
2314[10:55:12] <L0aD1nG> I recorded
2315[10:55:25] <L0aD1nG> I need them on linux so I can clear them out
2316[10:55:38] <L0aD1nG> mi11k1: has for an sd card
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2319[10:55:54] <L0aD1nG> rozie:
2320[10:56:00] <L0aD1nG> replaced-url
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2323[10:56:50] <L0aD1nG> umbaman: hardinfo will just show us info right?
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2325[10:57:14] <umbaman> yes in a graphical fashion
2326[10:57:15] <mi11k1> I don't see you trying to plug in this thing at the bottom of that list I see a bunch of Wi-Fi stuff
2327[10:57:23] <umbaman> it's a handy tool to have
2328[10:57:46] <rozie> L0aD1nG: so nothing happens in dmesg when you plug this device?
2329[10:57:47] <L0aD1nG> umbaman: i hate graphical fashion :D
2330[10:57:58] <umbaman> the try hwinfo
2331[10:58:03] <umbaman> hwinfo --usb
2332[10:58:04] <L0aD1nG> rozie: this is dmesg with the device plugged in
2333[10:58:04] <mi11k1> I don't see anything about him trying to plug in the thing
2334[10:58:20] <mi11k1> what about lsusb
2335[10:58:27] <rozie> L0aD1nG: you were asked to unplug it and plug it, then provide dmesg
2336[10:58:45] <umbaman> rozie is right
2337[10:58:49] <mi11k1> yah I don't see anything it being plugged in.
2338[10:59:07] <mi11k1> plug it I a regular USB
2339[10:59:12] <umbaman> mi11k1: hwinfo is more detailed
2340[10:59:16] <mi11k1> not 3.0
2341[10:59:40] <mi11k1> what file system is on there ?
2342[10:59:43] <rozie> well, if dmesg and lsusb shows nothing...
2343[10:59:48] <rozie> it can't work
2344[10:59:49] <mi11k1> I know
2345[10:59:56] <L0aD1nG> replaced-url
2346[10:59:57] <rozie> uname -a?
2347[11:00:01] <mi11k1> it's not seeing the adapter
2348[11:00:06] <L0aD1nG> here is the hwinfo --usb
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2351[11:01:04] <L0aD1nG> uname -a : Linux Alchemist 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2353[11:01:32] <rozie> L0aD1nG: there's info about Device File: /dev/sdb (/dev/sg2)
2354[11:01:41] <rozie> (c)fdisk /dev/sdb?
2355[11:01:48] <L0aD1nG> ...
2356[11:02:03] <umbaman> what about sdb?
2357[11:02:07] <L0aD1nG> omfg
2358[11:02:14] <L0aD1nG> wtf it worked now?
2359[11:02:19] <L0aD1nG> what was the solution??
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2361[11:02:24] <L0aD1nG> let me mount it
2362[11:02:29] <mi11k1> I see USB storage mounted
2363[11:02:39] <mi11k1> yanh
2364[11:02:44] <rozie> the solution was to plug it
2365[11:02:48] <rozie> ;>
2366[11:02:50] <mi11k1> haha omg
2367[11:03:18] <L0aD1nG> rozie:
2368[11:03:20] <L0aD1nG> omfg
2369[11:03:25] <L0aD1nG> I dont think so really
2370[11:03:31] <rozie> well, I do
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2372[11:03:33] <L0aD1nG> i did it hundred of times
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2374[11:04:09] <rozie> you may check if it's still visible after reboot
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2376[11:04:23] <umbaman> maybe probing with hwinfo
2377[11:04:26] <umbaman> was the solution
2378[11:04:30] <L0aD1nG> yea
2379[11:04:31] <umbaman> just guessing
2380[11:04:33] <L0aD1nG> seems so
2381[11:04:36] <mi11k1> unplug before you reboot mayne
2382[11:04:37] <rozie> it might not be recognized properly when plugged on bood
2383[11:04:37] <L0aD1nG> but its not logical
2384[11:04:39] <rozie> boot*
2385[11:04:55] <L0aD1nG> tried it when i was on too
2386[11:04:55] <umbaman> repeat several times
2387[11:04:57] <mi11k1> your bios might try boot it
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2390[11:05:04] <L0aD1nG> lol
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2393[11:05:54] <L0aD1nG> it sudenly works really
2394[11:05:57] <mi11k1> what file manager are you using ?
2395[11:06:02] <L0aD1nG> my terminal?
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2397[11:06:17] <Rephlexie> curious what a tail -f var/mes~ says when you plug and remove it
2398[11:06:19] <L0aD1nG> and i also have spacefm
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2400[11:06:37] <L0aD1nG> Rephlexie: you need me to remove it and run this command?
2401[11:06:42] <mi11k1> what desktop environment
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2403[11:06:58] <L0aD1nG> i3
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2406[11:07:15] <mi11k1> lake is there crap in there that you have her behaviors when you plug in your USB stuff
2407[11:07:28] <L0aD1nG> mi11k1: nope
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2409[11:07:38] <L0aD1nG> cause I know to use mount command :)
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2411[11:07:56] <L0aD1nG> nvm i need to run
2412[11:07:58] <mi11k1> what commands might that be?
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2414[11:08:16] <mi11k1> oh man it hurts
2415[11:08:31] <L0aD1nG> dmesg | grep sd; mount /dev/sd[whatever] /media/l0ad1ng
2416[11:08:52] <mi11k1> as root?
2417[11:08:56] <L0aD1nG> yea
2418[11:09:10] <mi11k1> what's with dmesg
2419[11:09:22] <mi11k1> oh man
2420[11:09:23] <L0aD1nG> to find out what is the exact path
2421[11:10:12] <mi11k1> ok that's 2 commands
2422[11:10:37] <L0aD1nG> then i have a written script to unmount it properly with udisks
2423[11:10:46] <mi11k1> what file system is on there?
2424[11:10:53] <L0aD1nG> :S
2425[11:10:55] <L0aD1nG> on where?
2426[11:11:04] <mi11k1> the SD card
2427[11:11:25] <mi11k1> is it fat
2428[11:11:31] <L0aD1nG> ohh and rozie thanks for noting that out, but I really checked it hundred of times and it was not appearing something changed the behaviour
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2430[11:12:07] <L0aD1nG> yea fat
2431[11:12:09] <L0aD1nG> :)
2432[11:12:25] <mi11k1> how big is the card?
2433[11:12:43] <L0aD1nG> mi11k1: why do you ask :D
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2435[11:13:04] <L0aD1nG> big enough :D
2436[11:13:08] <L0aD1nG> cya arround
2437[11:13:14] <L0aD1nG> and thanks everyone for caring with my problem
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2439[11:13:18] <mi11k1> it seems like a lot Ppl problems just relate to over complication with cli
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2442[11:13:53] <mi11k1> if x is running, try with the file manager
2443[11:14:44] <mi11k1> see if the bloody thing is there and click on it and see if my mounts
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2446[11:15:58] <mi11k1> gnome-disks I like for writing .img to media and gparted I need
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2457[11:21:22] <mi11k1> I just don't get why I see all this stupid shit that goes on because windows Ppl think linux needs to run from command or else it's cheating, stick with what you know first
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2461[11:23:25] <mi11k1> crunchbang was awesome to learn on. and I know what everybody says about webmin, but it helped me learn how to use terminal to run a Linux system
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2463[11:24:46] <TimWolla> Is anyone running nginx from jessie-backports? It looks to me that the newest version has got broken dependencies: nginx-full : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.2~beta3) but 1.0.1t-1+deb8u2 is to be installed
2464[11:25:14] <mi11k1> yah I dunno what's up with nginxp
2465[11:25:37] <mi11k1> I got that error like 2 weeks probably
2466[11:25:48] <valdyn> judd: versions nginx-full
2467[11:25:49] <judd> Package: nginx-full on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2+b1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2+b1; jessie-backports: 1.9.10-1~bpo8+3; sid: 1.10.1-1; stretch: 1.10.1-1; experimental:
2468[11:25:50] <judd> 1.11.3-1~exp1
2469[11:25:59] <mi11k1> I didn't look into though.
2470[11:26:09] <Rephlexie> mi11k1, spot on man, mounting a card via usb shouldnt require 2 hours browsing stacko
2471[11:26:43] <mi11k1> no, if poke around the gui and what's going first
2472[11:26:44] <valdyn> mi11k1: what version is your nginx-full? (apt-cache policy nginx-full)
2473[11:26:53] <TimWolla> Version table:
2474[11:26:53] <TimWolla> 1.9.10-1~bpo8+3 0
2475[11:26:53] <TimWolla> 100 replaced-url
2476[11:26:53] <TimWolla> *** 1.9.10-1~bpo8+2 0
2477[11:26:54] *** TimWolla was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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2479[11:27:30] <TimWolla> The bpo8+3 update appeared sometime in the past hours.
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2481[11:27:32] <valdyn> TimWolla: use a paste site
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2483[11:28:00] <mi11k1> I don't even remember what system I was working in thing was on 32bit I hardly use
2484[11:28:03] <valdyn> judd: versions libssl1.0.0
2485[11:28:04] <judd> Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u21; jessie-security: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u5; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.0.2h-1~bpo8+1
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2488[11:28:31] <mi11k1> Google itt
2489[11:28:46] <TimWolla> In case the output got interrupted before the /var/lib/dpkg/status line: replaced-url
2490[11:28:59] <valdyn> TimWolla: the required libssl1.0.0 is available, as you can see, also from jessie-backports
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2492[11:29:27] <TimWolla> Why wouldn't it get automatically installed even with a dist-upgrade or explicit install?
2493[11:29:33] <mi11k1> you'll find quick cause its probably
2494[11:29:37] <valdyn> TimWolla: no idea
2495[11:29:43] <mi11k1> do you have contributed and nonfree
2496[11:30:05] <TimWolla> Yes.
2497[11:30:12] <mi11k1> Dann autoincorrect
2498[11:30:35] <TimWolla> An explicit "apt-get -t jessie-backports install libssl1.0.0" is working.
2499[11:30:39] <beknowly> Does anyone know how to reset python's 'sys.path' on debian jessie? I installed anaconda a while ago which removed all of the 'dist-packages' dirs from it
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2502[11:31:12] <mi11k1> dpkg-reconfigure maybe
2503[11:31:21] <TimWolla> And my nginx now is upgraded, thanks.
2504[11:32:01] <mi11k1> yah how come that happens?
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2506[11:32:30] <mi11k1> your can't put package=whatever
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2508[11:32:51] <mi11k1> u gotta use -t
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2510[11:34:32] <mi11k1> I'm I started to figure open source stuff when I did because stuff changing way quickly and there way too much misinformation posted the Web
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2519[11:38:45] <mi11k1> I installed win10 for a friend today, I feel guilty cuz I kind of like it and I think it actually runs pretty good.
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2521[11:40:12] <ahri> hi, i'm administering a debian box that does not have access to the internet. i want to install something on there. how can i 1) update its apt cache, and 2) download all necessary debs from a machine that does have access, then finally 3) install those debs in the correct order on that machine? it seems like perhaps --print-uris will come in useful, if that gives me a list in the correct order?
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2523[11:41:04] <mi11k1> I do dpkg -I folder
2524[11:41:36] <mi11k1> folder/*.deb
2525[11:41:57] <mi11k1> and I don't get errors
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2527[11:42:29] <mi11k1> on the machine with the internet you do apt-get and there's a flag to just download the packages
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2530[11:43:30] <mi11k1> or my favourite do some USB tether to my phone for a min and do updates too
2531[11:44:02] <ahri> oh ok, i'll give the dpkg -I a go
2532[11:44:22] <ahri> i don't have physical access to the machine for tethering unfortunately!
2533[11:44:46] <mi11k1> it might be lower case
2534[11:44:52] <mi11k1> I
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2540[11:45:27] <mi11k1> my dumb dumb tablet ismaking it changing the case on me
2541[11:45:43] <mi11k1> I just wiped it and I'm not in the mood to configure anything
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2544[11:46:41] <mi11k1> how are you going to access it?
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2546[11:47:04] <ahri> i have ssh access so that's fine
2547[11:47:05] <mi11k1> through a network with no inet?
2548[11:47:17] <mi11k1> oh give it some inet
2549[11:47:18] <ahri> i'm stuck on step (1) though; i need to update its apt-cache
2550[11:47:34] <mi11k1> why
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2552[11:47:50] <ahri> so that it can tell me what packages to download
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2554[11:48:00] <mi11k1> use another system
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2556[11:48:13] <ahri> presumably some of its dependency graph is already installed, i don't want to download more than needed
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2559[11:48:32] <mi11k1> and just sftp a zip over
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2561[11:48:52] <mi11k1> what are you installing?
2562[11:48:57] <ahri> mono-devel
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2565[11:49:22] <mi11k1> what are you using ssh into it
2566[11:49:49] <mi11k1> another linux box?
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2569[11:50:50] <beknowly> yay :) - fixed my issue. `apt-get install --reinstall libpython2.7-minimal` done fixed it
2570[11:51:11] <mi11k1> there you go
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2577[11:53:14] <mi11k1> I would just enable some nat and tcp4 forwarding on whatever I'm using to administer that thing
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2579[11:53:56] * elliot007 says hello
2580[11:53:57] <mi11k1> and tell it look to yo
2581[11:54:06] <mi11k1> you for some inet
2582[11:54:20] <mi11k1> what's up elliot
2583[11:54:23] <ahri> mi11k1: it's not my server, i can't just subvert the security infrastructure like that
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2585[11:55:00] <elliot007> mi11k1: watching "How I Met your mother"
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2587[11:55:11] <mi11k1> oh this some serious piece of equipment or something?
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2591[11:56:05] <mi11k1> I'm not saying you need to do that
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2593[11:56:41] <elliot007> Hey guys I'm on Debian Jessie and I want to install some packages of Gnome 3.20 how to do that without crashing my system
2594[11:56:43] <mi11k1> ssh forward
2595[11:57:06] <mi11k1> uhh huh
2596[11:57:19] <mi11k1> just install them
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2598[11:57:33] <mi11k1> and it should not crash
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2600[11:57:49] <mi11k1> wait what is 3.2
2601[11:57:50] <elliot007> from debian testing??
2602[11:57:53] <mi11k1> ohhh
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2604[11:58:05] <SynrG> please think before you answer
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2606[11:58:10] <mi11k1> look up Debian backports
2607[11:58:19] <SynrG> i doubt it
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2610[11:58:42] <TomTomTosch> elliot007: debian stable is at 3.14, if you meant 3.20, that's not in debian yet.
2611[11:58:47] <mi11k1> I was thinking
2612[11:58:48] <SynrG> elliot007: short answer is, yes, sometimes backports are available, but for something the size of gnome, usually not.
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2614[11:59:17] <mi11k1> well he didn't say you wanted install everything from it
2615[11:59:23] <elliot007> SynrG: I just want to install 2 applications from 3.20
2616[11:59:38] <SynrG> elliot007: specifically?
2617[11:59:39] <elliot007> not the whole gnome 3.20
2618[11:59:48] <mi11k1> you can use --no-install-recommeds
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2621[12:00:02] <SynrG> typically if they belong to gnome, they have dependencies on the base packages from the later version of gnome
2622[12:00:09] <elliot007> SynrG: Polari and Epiphany
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2624[12:00:17] <SynrG> ,v epiphany
2625[12:00:18] <judd> Package: epiphany on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.0-4; wheezy: 0.7.0-6; jessie: 0.7.0+0-3; sid: 0.7.0+0-3+b1; stretch: 0.7.0+0-3+b1
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2627[12:00:28] <SynrG> ,v polari
2628[12:00:29] <judd> Package: polari on amd64 -- jessie: 3.14.1-1; sid: 3.20.2-2; stretch: 3.20.2-2
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2631[12:00:39] <SynrG> ,checkbackport epiphany
2632[12:00:40] <judd> Backporting package epiphany in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
2633[12:00:48] <SynrG> ,checkbackport polari
2634[12:00:49] <judd> Backporting package polari in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.19.12), gjs (>= 1.45.0).
2635[12:00:57] <SynrG> .ssb
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2637[12:01:07] <SynrG> humm, wrong introducer :)
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2640[12:01:20] <mi11k1> ok so now he has no wtf is going on
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2642[12:01:27] <SynrG> !ssb
2643[12:01:27] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2645[12:01:42] <mi11k1> we're in the matrix now I guess
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2649[12:01:58] <SynrG> elliot007: examine the output from judd, and read the ssb factoid from dpkg
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2651[12:02:11] <elliot007> hey I've never done that before
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2653[12:02:21] <SynrG> elliot007: in summary: it is sometimes possible to backport packages yourself. you can try what dpkg suggested.
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2655[12:02:31] <mi11k1> elliot, install VirtualBox and play
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2657[12:02:37] <Mathisen> mi11k1, yes and you need to go see the oracle to solve your issues :)
2658[12:02:43] <SynrG> elliot007: however, since polari's deps aren't satisfiable from jessie, that's probably a non-starter
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2660[12:02:53] <SynrG> elliot007: you could try it with epiphany, though.
2661[12:03:10] <elliot007> okay
2662[12:03:19] <SynrG> elliot007: is a newer polari really important? can you make do with something else?
2663[12:03:19] <mi11k1> yah, but he has no clue what just happened
2664[12:04:05] <elliot007> SynrG : My friend contributes to Polari and I want to Document that so yeah
2665[12:04:58] <SynrG> elliot007: i see. well, mi11k1's suggestion to use a VM is not unreasonable.
2666[12:05:04] <SynrG> elliot007: you could install stretch in a VM
2667[12:05:18] <elliot007> yeah
2668[12:05:27] <elliot007> I'll give it a try
2669[12:05:29] <mi11k1> elliot Google building packages from source debian
2670[12:05:35] <mi11k1> and s
2671[12:05:40] <SynrG> probably less hassle than building from source
2672[12:06:04] <mi11k1> skim through a couple tutorials and see if there's something there that speaking your language
2673[12:06:14] <elliot007> yeah also there is a tool called Jhbuild from gnome which I can use it does the same thing
2674[12:06:33] <mi11k1> I use mate
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2676[12:06:48] <mi11k1> it gnome I think
2677[12:06:53] <mi11k1> old
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2680[12:07:15] <SynrG> mate is mate. it is based on old gnome, yes, but is not old gnome.
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2682[12:07:32] <elliot007> yeah Its actually a fork from gnome 2
2683[12:07:36] <mi11k1> lemme see which versions I have
2684[12:07:54] <mi11k1> yah that's what I meant
2685[12:08:11] <mi11k1> actually I'm trying KDE right now plasma
2686[12:08:19] <elliot007> oh cool
2687[12:08:20] <SynrG> forking means all sorts of things could've changed, so comparing mate w. someone's current gnome will not yield useful results.
2688[12:08:22] <mi11k1> I'm actually liking the way it is running
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2690[12:09:04] <mi11k1> slickest looking Linux environment I've seen so far
2691[12:09:11] <elliot007> I like kde connect from KDe
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2693[12:10:02] <mi11k1> first time in tried was last night , I run crappie old stuff , so I generally use resource friendly
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2695[12:10:42] <elliot007> but all over I like gnome and I actually want to participate in gsoc with gnome
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2702[12:11:53] <mi11k1> I don't know anything about it, I see the word gnome way too many times a day
2703[12:11:59] <ahri> mi11k1: i took inspiration from you and used tsocks to proxy apt-get update and install over an ssh tunnel
2704[12:12:12] <mi11k1> good one bud
2705[12:12:34] <mi11k1> did install the stuff ?
2706[12:12:49] <mi11k1> the new packege?
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2708[12:13:14] <ahri> mi11k1: yeah, it was much easier than doing it manually, all worked smoothly
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2710[12:14:31] <mi11k1> nice, I just glanced the man for that, I didn't even know about that
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2713[12:14:54] <mi11k1> thanks for coming with that
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2733[12:16:18] <mi11k1> ssh is such a great tool
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2737[12:16:31] <elliot007> I agree
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2762[12:17:59] <mi11k1> I couldn't get by without it, I just got a bunch of old pc's all working together
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2774[12:18:21] <ahri> i considered configuring apt to use a socks5 proxy, but this seemed adhoc enough that others wouldn't be able to repeat the process, which in this case is a useful attribute
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2787[12:18:58] <mi11k1> it's got wireless iface?
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2800[12:20:10] <mi11k1> I though were just plugging into a Lan whenever this thing happened to be.
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2803[12:20:56] <mi11k1> I starting a build today with all the stuff I've learned in the year or so
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2812[12:21:51] <mi11k1> try out my new biquad design
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2815[12:23:58] <ahri> no it doesn't have a wireless interface, in fact it's only a VM anyway
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2817[12:24:26] <mi11k1> oh, vmware?
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2826[12:30:11] <mi11k1> vm let me learn pretty quick I must say.
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2860[12:48:13] <nailyk> hi. I'm in trouble with nouveau on debian 9 on power G5 (ppc64). I need to recompile my kernel before being able to build nouveau. I already build this kernel in different version, with succes if i set the pagesize to 4k.
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2862[12:48:37] <nailyk> Each time i set the pagesize back to 64k i get an error at the begging of the build:
2863[12:49:29] <dionysus69> can anyone tell me why theres a cross iconed mouse appearing on screen before I can open atom
2864[12:49:37] <dionysus69> and I need to click once for it to open
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2866[12:49:56] <jelly> nailyk, you may have better luck asking in a ppc channel or even #nouveau if the build issue is about the driver itself
2867[12:51:04] <nailyk> jelly: for now the issue is only on kernel building when setting the pagesize to 64k (which is the default now).
2868[12:51:25] <nailyk> Here is the log: replaced-url
2869[12:51:35] <k_sze[work]> Is there an easy way I can *monitor* the files that a processes open, as the files get opened?
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2871[12:51:45] <k_sze[work]> I know lsof can give me a snapshot of the open files.
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2873[12:52:14] <k_sze[work]> But what I want is more like print the file name as the process opens it.
2874[12:52:17] <themill> strace -eopen?
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2884[13:00:14] <slax0r> hi, I need to shrink my /home LV and extend my /root LV is doing it with lvresize safe for data and system?
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2932[13:23:49] <Sabotender> I dunno why, but I am very excited to use the dd command
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2935[13:24:11] <Sabotender> lol, does that make me weird or odd in some way?
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2946[13:30:11] <JohnA> I am running Stretch, with LXDE and need to replace the Firefox and Icedove with Firefox 51.0a1 and Thunderbird 51.0a1.
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2952[13:32:16] <jelly> slax0r, shrinking ext4 is an offline operation, so even if lvresize supports calling the necessary tools on its own, /home will still have to be unmounted
2953[13:33:03] <slax0r> jelly: I understand that, but before I go singleuser, I want to know if I can lose my data
2954[13:33:17] <slax0r> I know I _can_, I mean, how sure is it to end in flames?
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2956[13:34:47] <slax0r> and /root can be extended online?
2957[13:35:15] <jelly> yeah, growing can be done online
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2959[13:37:44] <jelly> shrinking can be very slow and less tested, and it requires a fsck -f run before. If you can backup, remove the lv, create a smaller one, crate the fs again and restore the data that is often _quicker_ than doing inline shrinking
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2961[13:38:06] <jelly> in-place shrinking
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2970[13:42:15] <JohnA> I also want to remove want to remove bot Firefox-esr and Icedove in order to stop stretch updates from stomping all over both Firefox and Thunderbird 51..., how can I remove the dependencies on Firefox-ESF and Icedove??
2971[13:42:55] <slax0r> jelly: if I can find enough room for all the data :/
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2994[13:56:23] <jessieonusb> i have Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 64GB flash drive and would like to install jessie onto it and use it as a live system BUT one that can be kept up to date with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Is that possible. Must i use a FAT32 for the / or ext2?
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2997[13:57:22] <Stummi> I think ext3/4 is fine too for USB drives
2998[13:57:37] <jelly> JohnA, I think you want to read /msg dpkg mdn, and /msg dpkg debian-next
2999[13:57:45] <Stummi> jessieonusb, in your case just install a normal debian on it and you will be fine
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3007[14:01:24] <jessieonusb> Stummi, will using a journal FS like ext3 or ext4 dramtically shorten the life of the usb flash drive?
3008[14:01:48] <Stummi> I am not sure if this really matters with modern usb drives
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3012[14:05:59] <jessieonusb> Stummi, have you done yourself what i want to do?
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3050[14:17:00] <jessieonusb> Stummi, have you done yourself what i want to do?
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3052[14:17:17] <Stummi> jessieonusb, it was some time ago
3053[14:17:28] <Stummi> but yes, I built a bootable usb stick with debootstrap
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3056[14:18:00] <jessieonusb> Stummi, is debootstrap newbie friendly
3057[14:18:04] <jessieonusb> Stummi, is debootstrap newbie friendly?
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3060[14:18:34] <Stummi> jessieonusb, depends on what you expect as newbie friendly
3061[14:18:48] <Stummi> theres no fancy GUI to click around in it, if thats what you mean
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3075[14:22:48] <jelly> no, debootstrap can't be seriously called friendly jessieonusb
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3077[14:23:48] <jelly> but if you have two sticks, one for d-i, one ot install on, you ought to be able to install debian the usual way
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3097[14:31:27] <ewew> Hi. I get a missing checksum error when attempting debian install with pressed.cfg. Why is this happening ?
3098[14:31:41] <ewew> on file Packages.xz.
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3103[14:33:20] <jessieonusb> jelly, can you please elaborate on that?
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3107[14:34:46] <jessieonusb> jelly, is there a *jessie* tutorial to do what i want to do?
3108[14:35:01] <Ergo> hello, assuming i want to run debian stable instead of testing - is there an easy way to run gnome version from testing via backports?
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3120[14:39:41] <jim_carry> I want to learn about systemd. What it is?
3121[14:40:16] <Ergo> jim_carry: redhat has some good documentation on it
3122[14:40:30] <greycat> It's the first userspace process that the kernel executes, which then launches every other process.
3123[14:40:40] <jim_carry> Do you use it as cron replacement? Ergo
3124[14:40:45] <ewew> If it wants a SHA1 sum than its a bug. because on archives there is no sha1 checksum file.
3125[14:40:50] <greycat> No. It's part of booting.
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3128[14:41:32] <greycat> You can try reading "man systemd" but it may be a bit overwhelming.
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3132[14:42:31] <ewew> Which irc channel is responsible for debian-installer ?
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3134[14:42:38] <greycat> #debian-boot on OFTC
3135[14:42:49] <ewew> ok. thanks.
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3143[14:47:37] <AkQ> cool command echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p
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3154[14:52:54] <dionysus69> whats a benefit of building atom from source instead of installing deb?
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3204[15:13:57] <ioudas> pxe boots require dhcp options
3205[15:14:01] <ioudas> have you set them
3206[15:14:17] <Akuw> i am using curl -O replaced-url
3207[15:14:26] <Akuw> but only download some bytes
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3211[15:15:07] <indistylo> How can I create the symbolic link from local to remote directory? Problem, I am trying to address is I cloned the puppet-modules-directory to my local machine, Now when I am doing changes in files, I have to set the environment in "/etc/puppet/puppet.conf" Now all the modules resides in directory "/etc/puppet/modules" on the puppet-master server, Now "/etc/puppet/modules/puppet2-7-23" resides in my local machine, I want to sym-link so th
3212[15:15:07] <indistylo> at local to remote $environment is mapped, Any idea how to do it? -->I am aware of how to create sym-link<--, My problem is local to remote one.
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3215[15:15:40] <greycat> indistylo: symlinks are just file names. That's all. They are resovled in terms of directories, like ../../../local/share/whatever
3216[15:15:53] <greycat> indistylo: they have no concept of "hostnames" or "remote"
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3224[15:17:29] <indistylo> greycat: Ok, I got that
3225[15:17:36] <indistylo> thanks
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3228[15:18:26] <dirkk> Hi, sysfs question. I understand that sysfs is a tool that permits to interface hw and sw blocks. my problem is that I can't write in a file with my qt/c++ function
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3232[15:19:48] <jessieonusb> i have Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 64GB flash drive and would like to install jessie onto it and use it as a live system BUT one that can be kept up to date with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Is that possible. Must i use a FAT32 for the / or ext2?
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3254[15:27:29] <jim_carry> Can anybody tell me how to run `redshift` with systemd?
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3305[15:48:53] <grogoreo> hi
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3309[15:50:16] <grogoreo> I'm cloning a hard drive with dd and just wondered will it create an image the size of the hard drive (250GB) or just the contents (92GB)?
3310[15:50:33] <greycat> whole drive
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3312[15:50:42] <greycat> or, whole partition. whatever you used as dd's input.
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3314[15:51:13] <grogoreo> greycat: ah, thanks, I've a long wait
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3365[16:13:28] <stoned> I'm on debian stable, and all of a sudden my sound system (5.1 surround, all speakers work) won't output as loudly as it used to.
3366[16:13:36] <stoned> I have checked volume levels in alsamixer and everything is full
3367[16:13:39] <stoned> Where else can I check?
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3373[16:16:12] <umbaman> terminal alsamixer?
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3375[16:16:35] <umbaman> and navigate with Fkeys
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3382[16:21:12] <Jaggz> Anyone know a commandline utility to make a multi-boot usb?
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3442[16:46:07] <ma__rc> guys, who is running xfce? i changed some panel icons and now the battery indicator in the notification area is gone... what happened?
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3448[16:48:32] <ma__rc> the indicator applet is what i meant*
3449[16:49:10] <stoned> umbSublime: yes. I also checked physical volume knobs
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3451[16:49:17] <stoned> Volume is about half what it used to
3452[16:49:36] <greycat> Remove excess ear wax?
3453[16:50:50] <stoned> oh
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3455[16:50:52] <stoned> I found the problem
3456[16:51:06] <greycat> Loose wire in the audio cable?
3457[16:51:06] <stoned> replaced-url
3458[16:51:11] * elliot007 is back
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3460[16:51:44] <ma__rc> found an alternative, thx anyway
3461[16:51:50] <elliot007> just upgraded to stretch
3462[16:52:03] <Sicelo> :)
3463[16:52:13] <dvs> good, now you're one version behind.
3464[16:52:23] <jamesl> how to, on Debian 8, limit a program (java) to 50% of the available CPU? I have once core that i'm allowed to use up to 50% of on my VPS. how to do this? (I want to set a cap, not kill the process if it exceeds 50%)
3465[16:52:28] <stoned> Alsamixer and Kmix do not match
3466[16:52:52] <stoned> replaced-url
3467[16:53:15] <stoned> Music is playing, I have zero sound from speakers, b/c kmix is 0 all the way, yet alsamixer is still 43%
3468[16:53:26] <stoned> I don't follow. Why are their differnces and how can I consilidate the two mixers
3469[16:53:42] <stoned> I like using mostly alsamixer but I don't remember kmix but sometimes kmix can be helpful for mics and various kde apps
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3473[16:56:01] <greycat> jamesl: it's essentially impossible and stupid to expect the guest (you) to self-cap their processes. The limits need to be enforced on the host (your VPS provider) side.
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3475[16:56:19] <Sicelo> stoned: maybe try #debian-kde? no idea .. i'm new to kde and rather disappointed that its proponents suggest it is the ultimate. it just has a different set of suck from gnome. i don't feel that i've been 'improved' by migrating
3476[16:56:34] <stoned> Well, one thing.
3477[16:56:42] <stoned> GTK is... well. FUCK gtk.
3478[16:56:46] <stoned> *shrug*
3479[16:56:56] <jamesl> greycat: it is enforced (your process gets killed if you exceed 50% for more than an hour) but that method of enforcement isn't good for a server
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3481[16:57:09] <stoned> Sicelo: I'll try there too. What are you on? Debian and KDE version please
3482[16:57:09] <greycat> Find a better VPS provider.
3483[16:57:16] <greycat> That's ridiculous.
3484[16:57:30] <elliot007> Everybody has different flavour
3485[16:57:40] <Sicelo> stoned: now stretch too, with KDE5
3486[16:57:46] <stoned> ah
3487[16:57:53] <stoned> I'm stable. Mentaly and debian too.
3488[16:57:55] <stoned> :D
3489[16:58:00] <elliot007> :)
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3493[16:59:11] <LAL> Hello guys, I am a beginner in the area of contribution and now I am really interested in fixing bugs and I to be frank I really don't know what to do. Please help!!
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3495[16:59:43] <greycat> If you have a patch for a bug, right now, you could mail it to the bug report.
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3497[16:59:58] <stoned> replaced-url
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3501[17:00:24] <LAL> thank you
3502[17:01:08] <stoned> !exp4bugs
3503[17:01:09] <dpkg> exp4bugs is, like, "Where do you get experience points for battling the evil bugs?"
3504[17:01:26] <stoned> Level up.
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3511[17:04:55] <stoned> Fixed the volumes
3512[17:05:03] <stoned> Brought everything down to zero on both mixers
3513[17:05:11] <stoned> Then only used alsamixer and now both are matched up.
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3546[17:16:17] <Defcronyke> is the preinstallvendors@debian.org email address dead or something? I've gotten no response from there after sending a few emails in the past 3 years or so
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3553[17:21:09] <stardancer> maybe they dont respond to anything
3554[17:21:16] <stardancer> if it was dead it would have bounced back to you
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3558[17:21:54] <Defcronyke> I used to be listed on there, as was removed due to some intense amount of downtime several years ago, and I have not been able to get relisted ever since
3559[17:22:15] <Defcronyke> and was*
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3568[17:25:08] <rapha> Hi!
3569[17:25:40] <rapha> Is there any way (short of rolling my own) to get php5 installed in Stretch, preferably alongside php7?
3570[17:26:17] <greycat> ,v php5-fpm
3571[17:26:18] <judd> Package: php5-fpm on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u4; jessie: 5.6.20+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.24+dfsg-1
3572[17:26:38] <rapha> yeah, doesn't seem to be straightforward :(
3573[17:26:40] <greycat> Interesting. Try asking in #debian-next on OFTC.
3574[17:26:44] <rapha> OFTC?
3575[17:26:48] <greycat> !debian-next
3576[17:26:48] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3578[17:26:59] <rapha> thank you greycat!
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3613[17:42:18] <Jaggz> How do you put drivers like these onto the netinst usb stick? Just copy then somewhere in the fs? replaced-url
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3621[17:44:06] <Jaggz> the firmware files or packages must be placed in either the root directory or a directory named/firmware of the file system on the medium. The recommended file system to use is FAT
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3631[17:48:13] <awal1> Jaggz, another alternatives, less headache, is to use the netinst cd including non-free stuff
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3634[17:48:44] <Jaggz> Oh!
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3638[17:49:45] <awal1> if interested replaced-url
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3643[17:51:12] <Jaggz> Thank you so much
3644[17:51:20] <awal1> I tried several times to add X non-free stuff during install but never achieved it; that netinst does the job so, Jaggz
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3675[18:11:39] <trbo> Hello! I'm getting a strange error while compiling a custom kernel; "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=`getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN` fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=custom01 kernel_image kernel_headers"
3676[18:11:53] <trbo> error: "Failed to create a ./debian directory: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 984."
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3678[18:15:45] <no0bs1337> Hello
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3680[18:15:52] <no0bs1337> hello
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3704[18:24:30] <trbo> got it to work, missed fakeroot lol!
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3706[18:25:31] <T4ng10r> hi
3707[18:25:32] <T4ng10r> can someone help me with setting Google Chrome treating .txt files? I mean I need to tell Chrome to open those files in gVim instead of downloading?
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3709[18:25:55] <T4ng10r> I succeded in Firefox by editing mimetypes.rdf in profile file
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3714[18:28:05] <lasdam> hello. I have a problem with a realtek built-in laptop multi-card-reader in debian. it's worked before in debian, and it currently still works in windows, but no longer in debian. there is no block devices in /dev at all except for /dev/sda* (SSD). after googling for potential driver issues I found out that the driver that's used by default is buggy (rtsx_pci) and that I should install rts_pstor. now it's installed, rtsx_pci is remov
3715[18:28:05] <lasdam> ed/unused and blacklisted, and lspci indicates that my realtek card reader is using rts_pstor. still, no new block devices in /dev/ nor any new devices shown with fdisk -l. ideas anyone?
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3717[18:28:52] <johnkeates> did you try a different sd card?
3718[18:28:58] <lasdam> yes
3719[18:29:06] <johnkeates> then id not knwo
3720[18:29:28] <lasdam> :/
3721[18:29:30] <ScottE> lasdam: does dmesg show anything useful regarding the device or driver? Also, lspci/lsusb/etc (depending on what bus it's on internally) might be helpful
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3725[18:31:02] <lasdam> no errors except for "[ 9.028349] Bad target number (n:0)" repeated for n in range(1, 7)
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3731[18:32:57] <lasdam> I'll post lspci/lsusb results in pastebin
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3737[18:34:39] <lasdam> replaced-url
3738[18:35:17] <ScottE> That "Bad target number" line *could* be related - hard to say if it's this particular driver but it smells a bit like it was unable to enumerate devices
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3743[18:36:10] <ScottE> From your output though it looks like it's clearly on the pci bus (so ignore lsusb I think)
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3745[18:36:33] <ScottE> lshw might also be useful for you to look through
3746[18:37:01] <ScottE> If I remember right it will tell you hardware that is unclaimed by a driver
3747[18:37:27] <lasdam> btw the whole related dmesg section replaced-url
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3750[18:37:52] <ScottE> Strange the lspci shows it's using rts_pstor - that seems to indicate everything is OK
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3754[18:39:52] <ScottE> Ah yeah, that dmesg is clearly related, however it also lists that it has sdb - if there's no /dev/sdb* then I'm not sure what's going on unless you need some udev rules (shouldn't)
3755[18:40:15] <lasdam> ScottE: lshw replaced-url
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3757[18:41:08] <ScottE> That shows /dev/sdb as well... Everything should be fine
3758[18:41:27] <lasdam> ScottE: ah, yeah, I forgot there IS a /dev/sdb after I installed and used rts_pstor, but it seems useless - fdisk can't access it, and there's no /dev/sdb0
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3762[18:42:26] <lasdam> > fdisk -l /dev/sdb
3763[18:42:26] <lasdam> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found
3764[18:42:46] <ScottE> Not sure at this point lasdam - that's everything I can think of :-/
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3768[18:44:07] <lasdam> ScottE: :( the weird part to me is how it just abruptly stopped working. computers are complicated :( thanks anyway
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3775[18:46:24] <`Kevin> lasdam: related to this? replaced-url
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3777[18:48:31] <lasdam> `Kevin: yes, thank you
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3789[18:54:24] <Jaggz> awal1, thanks . I've gotten the non-free firmwares to install in the past I think.. irritating stuff..
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3791[18:54:37] <Jaggz> awal1, this non-free unofficial has trojans in it?
3792[18:54:41] <Jaggz> (how would we know)
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3799[18:57:48] <awal1> Jaggz, hehehe, no they are official debian iso images made by debian DDs, maintainers or users. they are genuine just as the official ones
3800[18:58:02] <Jaggz> k :) just don't tell nobody
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3803[18:58:55] <awal1> they are called unofficial just bcoz of debian rules , not include non-free stuff in main isos , the official ones
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3824[19:04:45] <dsuch> Hmm.. while I'm looking it up around the net - does anyone have a link to 8.3 downloads perhaps? I can see all/most current links point to 8.5 but I need 8.3 amd64 as it happens. Thanks! replaced-url
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3831[19:07:52] <dsuch> I've got list files but no actual .iso yet :) replaced-url
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3836[19:09:18] <jordanm> why do you need jessie without security updates?
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3845[19:12:46] <brainbomb_> hey guys
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3854[19:14:16] <brainbomb_> i'm running wheezy and after update i have some problems with the disk order
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3856[19:14:44] <brainbomb_> is here the right place to ask?
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3861[19:16:30] <dsuch> Hm hm hm.. so it looks that all 8.x archives lack iso-cd and iso-dvd directories that are present in 7.11
3862[19:16:36] <dsuch> replaced-url
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3864[19:16:40] <dsuch> replaced-url
3865[19:17:09] <dsuch> Also in replaced-url
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3868[19:17:37] <dsuch> brainbomb_: I'm sure it is but I won't be able to assist you myself, sorry.
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3874[19:18:24] <mtn> brainbomb_: what kind of problem? any details?
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3876[19:19:50] <brainbomb_> box booting from flash drive (was sda, mounted by uuid) and 6 sata disks
3877[19:20:01] <dsuch> Aah. here it is replaced-url
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3879[19:20:40] <brainbomb_> after update the order changed to sda-sde - disk, sdf flash drive, sdg disk
3880[19:20:41] <indistylo> How should I create symbolic link like this for my home directory replaced-url
3881[19:21:10] <indistylo> I did "ln -s file_from file_to"
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3883[19:22:05] <brainbomb_> i'm reading about creating a udev-rule but afaik it will change the symlink, not the order itself
3884[19:22:29] <brainbomb_> like /dev/usb_drive -> /dev/sdf
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3886[19:23:27] <brainbomb_> how can force the kernel to attach the flash drive to - say - sdm
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3888[19:23:50] <greycat> Sounds like a udev thing.
3889[19:24:02] <johnkeates> you know what else sounds like a udev thing?
3890[19:24:06] <johnkeates> your mom.
3891[19:24:23] <bagbobilgins> tastes good
3892[19:24:36] <bagbobilgins> experienced meat
3893[19:24:41] <johnkeates> what I actually mean is: usually, if you want to use udev things to make easy names appear: keep the original around as well
3894[19:24:57] <johnkeates> also, try the label thing, /dev/disk/by-* can come in handy
3895[19:25:12] <dvs> brainbomb_, yes, keep the original name and make the flash drive the symbolic link.
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3902[19:28:32] <brainbomb_> sdb-sdg is zfs-pool and zpool still thinks sdf is a part of the pool but defunctional
3903[19:28:39] <hR13> Hi all, need some routing help feel very unsecure i this. got a working VPN i can from the "client " FW ping the other network (192.168.1.0/24) tested various hosts no problem, but how do I route only the traffic to 192.168.1.0/24 network and not the rest from the client network (192.168.3.0/24) its openwrt/openvpn boxes on both sides so regular iptables works
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3906[19:29:25] <brainbomb_> so symlinking is nice but i want to reorder to sda (flash drive) + sdb-sdg (disks)
3907[19:29:33] <brainbomb_> any grub-voodoo?
3908[19:29:43] <johnkeates> don't reorder
3909[19:29:45] <johnkeates> use uuid's
3910[19:29:47] <brainbomb_> hints and pointing to docs welcome
3911[19:29:47] <johnkeates> or labels
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3913[19:29:50] <johnkeates> not device names
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3918[19:31:32] <crayon> anyone have an any ideas why my ff fails to laod certain elements in plugins?
3919[19:31:41] <crayon> ex: replaced-url
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3933[19:35:18] <jhutchins> brainbomb_: That is why people started using UUIDs instead of dev nodes.
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3935[19:35:34] <greycat> Or labels.
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3938[19:37:16] <crayon> fpr comparison it should look like this: replaced-url
3939[19:37:26] <brainbomb_> uuid is used for partition afaik, not for devices:
3940[19:37:28] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 22 20:14 1b127ae8-de1c-4c55-a87a-1354ff62e942 -> ../../sdf1
3941[19:37:29] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jul 22 20:03 2482EAA282EA77A6 -> ../../zd0p2
3942[19:37:31] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 58598fdd-13c1-4119-abc1-fc1674438ed6 -> ../../zd64p1
3943[19:37:32] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 6b0cd80a-ebbe-47c9-9436-b930ca013950 -> ../../zd80p1
3944[19:37:34] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 6E365E0A365DD3A5 -> ../../zd32p1
3945[19:37:35] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jul 22 20:03 8814E89A14E88C8E -> ../../zd0p1
3946[19:37:37] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 acd566e4-8be1-4fe0-af77-9d462bab8cc8 -> ../../zd64p5
3947[19:37:38] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 E290D71E90D6F84D -> ../../zd48p1
3948[19:37:40] <brainbomb_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 FC2A7C282A7BDDD8 -> ../../zd16p1
3949[19:37:56] <greycat> Where is the bot....
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3951[19:39:02] <simonlnu> wtf
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3953[19:39:14] <simonlnu> bot is sleeping (?)
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3955[19:39:59] <greycat> And yes, of course UUIDs are on the file systems, not the container-devices, because the UUID identifies mountable things. You mount the file system by its label or by its UUID.
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3965[19:43:16] <hannes3> hi, if you look at the list of files in replaced-url
3966[19:43:19] <hannes3> any idea if that is abug?
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3971[19:43:48] <hannes3> PEBKAC, gmt changed its structure
3972[19:43:49] <hannes3> thanks!
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3977[19:45:16] <brainbomb_> so, no way to trick loader or kernel to change the device name to sdX (no symlink, the original name)?
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3980[19:46:10] <greycat> Again, that would be a udev thing.
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3982[19:46:27] <greycat> Look at the persistent network interface examples and then try to figure out how to do it with disks.
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3985[19:46:49] <medusaXX> hi
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3991[19:47:55] <johnkeates> brainbomb_: don't do it
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3994[19:49:31] <medusaXX> what is the debian way of disabling an acpi interrupt via echo "disabled" > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpeXX? Is there a config file for this? A package that you need?
3995[19:49:41] <medusaXX> I mean at boot time
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3998[19:50:55] <johnkeates> medusaXX: isn't that something you would set as a kernel parameter?
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4002[19:51:25] <medusaXX> Is that possible?
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4005[19:52:05] <medusaXX> People with other distributions create a systemd unit to do it (e.g. replaced-url
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4010[19:52:19] <johnkeates> you could do that, systemd unit, or an rc script
4011[19:52:24] <johnkeates> plenty of people doing that
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4013[19:52:41] <johnkeates> others make a cronjob as root so that the interrupt doesn't magically enable
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4017[19:53:32] <medusaXX> Ok that's pretty much what I could think of, I was just not sure whether there is something "nicer" to do it
4018[19:53:37] <awal1> greycat, excuse if I bother. if dpkg -S pidstat or type -a pidstat tells me that sysstat is the pkg who provides pidstat utility (just an example) how to find out all the utilities that sysstat provides? Asking about that just bcoz I'm noticing that sometimes I install pkg A for do X task but I find out that pkg B can do that task yet; so thats for avoid installing more and more pkgs everyday
4019[19:53:38] <medusaXX> something like sysctl.conf
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4021[19:53:52] <johnkeates> i'm afraid it's rather platform specific
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4023[19:53:57] <johnkeates> not every platform has api
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4026[19:53:59] <johnkeates> acpi*
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4028[19:54:07] <johnkeates> and not every acpi is the same
4029[19:54:20] <johnkeates> it can even vary between bios versions
4030[19:54:30] <greycat> awal1: If you have a package name (e.g. "sysstat") and you want to know all of the *command-line programs* in it, you could use dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin/. and that would probably be pretty close.
4031[19:54:40] <johnkeates> i suppose you could use a acpi patch file and load that as a linux parameter
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4033[19:54:51] <medusaXX> If there is nothing acpi specific, is there may be a script that is being run early at boot time where you could easily add this?
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4035[19:54:55] <johnkeates> but writing a simple script to do it might be easier to remember, debug etc.
4036[19:55:00] <johnkeates> rc.local maybe
4037[19:55:21] <greycat> Yeah, a one-liner like this could easily and cleanly be done in rc.local.
4038[19:55:21] <johnkeates> well, it's actually ran at the end
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4042[19:55:29] <johnkeates> but it'd not matter
4043[19:55:38] <johnkeates> multiuser is reached quite fast these days
4044[19:55:39] <greycat> As long as you don't need it to be done super-early in the boot.
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4047[19:55:51] <johnkeates> you could alternatively put it in the initrd
4048[19:56:00] <awal1> greycat, gooood, that's what I wanted to know. You're a genius , thanks :)
4049[19:56:05] <jhutchins> Why would rsync -a not update a modified file?
4050[19:56:16] <medusaXX> The concerned general purpose interrupt creates a huge kworker load, thus earlier would be better
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4052[19:56:18] <johnkeates> because that's actually exactly what -a does
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4056[19:56:29] <medusaXX> initrd hm interesting idea
4057[19:56:41] <unborn> jhutchins: it should thats for sure
4058[19:57:06] <medusaXX> Will have to research where in initrd to put it exactly, thanks for the idea
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4060[19:57:18] <jhutchins> johnkeates: You mean it only copies new files, or that it's supposed to update modified files?
4061[19:57:31] <johnkeates> it's supposed not to change metadata
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4063[19:57:46] <johnkeates> a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
4064[19:57:57] <jhutchins> johnkeates: So if a file is newer and larger it should be updated, no?
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4067[19:58:30] <johnkeates> it will always update
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4069[19:58:36] <johnkeates> but it won't change stuff on-the-fly
4070[19:58:44] <greycat> The corresponding file in the destination should be changed to match the source, yes.
4071[19:58:45] <johnkeates> it will sync changes, no worries there
4072[19:58:51] <unborn> it supposed to reflect any changes to any file
4073[19:58:57] <johnkeates> but it's not going to have side-effects on the files
4074[19:59:04] <jhutchins> Ah, so if it didn't something else is wrong.
4075[19:59:10] <johnkeates> the -t in de -a combo flag says: -t, --times preserve modification times
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4077[19:59:23] <johnkeates> if you ran rsync but it didn't sync, but there are changes, then yes, something went wrong :)
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4079[20:00:00] <jhutchins> Xlnt, that is what I expected. Logging being enabled.
4080[20:00:23] <aZz7eCh> hi debian. can someone point me in the right direction? I've followed this guide: replaced-url
4081[20:00:24] <johnkeates> medusaXX: there are scripts that execute early, i.e. for LUKS, special disk initialisation, check how those are added and you can add your own :)
4082[20:00:24] <aZz7eCh> lacking the google keyword magic
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4084[20:00:50] <greycat> aZz7eCh: can't you just use regular unix group permissions?
4085[20:00:58] <medusaXX> johnkeates: thx
4086[20:01:18] <johnkeates> aZz7eCh: in smb.conf inside a share stanza: valid users = user1 user2 user3
4087[20:01:27] <aZz7eCh> o0 that easily?
4088[20:01:28] <johnkeates> yes
4089[20:01:31] <aZz7eCh> /facepalm
4090[20:01:32] <johnkeates> or use groups
4091[20:01:35] <johnkeates> it's all in the manual
4092[20:01:37] <jhutchins> greycat: The share essentially becomes NTFS.
4093[20:01:42] <brainbomb_> so I'm going to replace every sdX with /dev/disk/by-id/X, resilver and export / import
4094[20:01:48] <johnkeates> replaced-url
4095[20:01:51] <brainbomb_> thanks guys!
4096[20:02:01] <johnkeates> brainbomb_: yes
4097[20:02:06] <jhutchins> I miss the way swat used to link to the docs for each settting.
4098[20:02:08] <johnkeates> actually, you don't need to resolver
4099[20:02:17] <johnkeates> i use ZoL
4100[20:02:47] <johnkeates> and had those bad disk identifiers as well (now I use WWN's, guaranteed to point to a specific disk)
4101[20:02:54] <johnkeates> you can just rename them
4102[20:02:55] <aZz7eCh> johnkeates, thank you kindly
4103[20:03:52] <johnkeates> brainbomb_: actually, I have most pools on wwn's, some on the linux-style ID's, like: ata-WDC_WD30EFRX-68AX9N0_WD-WCC1T1115829
4104[20:04:01] <johnkeates> those don't change either
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4106[20:04:13] <brainbomb_> @johnkeates so zfs recognize sda and WWN as same with no need fpr resilvering?
4107[20:04:14] <johnkeates> and have the benefit of easy to find numbers on the disks
4108[20:04:20] <johnkeates> yep, it just works fine
4109[20:04:38] <brainbomb_> my zpool is already degraded and i dont wont to rebuild the pool
4110[20:04:42] <brainbomb_> kk
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4112[20:05:00] <brainbomb_> cross fingers :)
4113[20:05:01] <johnkeates> one of the easiest things: remove the pool and import it with the right settings
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4115[20:05:08] <johnkeates> export/import
4116[20:05:47] <johnkeates> the command is something like: zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id/ poolname-here
4117[20:06:02] <johnkeates> it just uses the on-disk metadata to correctly find the disks
4118[20:06:27] <brainbomb_> ignoring the non-zfs disks?
4119[20:06:30] <johnkeates> yes
4120[20:06:33] <greycat> This zfs shit sounds crazy complicated.
4121[20:06:38] <johnkeates> this should work on any ZoL setup since it's been supported for over 6 years now
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4123[20:06:55] <johnkeates> zfs is just MDADM+LVM in one in terms of management
4124[20:06:59] <brainbomb_> i wish i knew that
4125[20:07:07] <johnkeates> instead of looking in 2 places you look in 1 place
4126[20:07:12] <johnkeates> and its faster/better/more shiny
4127[20:07:21] <johnkeates> probably more 1337 as well
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4131[20:07:39] <brainbomb_> zfs is not that complicated. the udev thing is :)
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4133[20:07:44] <johnkeates> yeah
4134[20:07:47] <johnkeates> udev is a beast
4135[20:07:51] <johnkeates> and systemd made it worse
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4137[20:08:13] <johnkeates> less systemd is better systemd
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4139[20:08:32] <johnkeates> OpenRC or launchd please.
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4143[20:08:58] <brainbomb_> same thing with eth0 -> uniqe name
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4145[20:09:03] <brainbomb_> same thing with eth0 -> uniqee name
4146[20:09:06] <johnkeates> yeah
4147[20:09:14] <johnkeates> systemd-networkd is gonna make that all worse for ya
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4149[20:09:39] <johnkeates> you'll have enp5s0
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4151[20:09:52] <brainbomb_> so, when bhyve is ready, i'm ready too ;)
4152[20:09:59] <johnkeates> or enx0014d1da8b9d
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4154[20:10:16] <johnkeates> eth0 is friendly but not that great either
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4157[20:10:25] <johnkeates> I guess the en<MAC-HERE> is the better deal
4158[20:10:31] <johnkeates> /dev/eth/by-id/
4159[20:10:35] <johnkeates> that would work for me
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4164[20:11:30] <jhutchins> johnkeates: Mystery solved: If the job is not enabled in the crontab, it will not run on schedule and files will not be updated.
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4167[20:12:18] <johnkeates> that would indeed be a showstopper
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4179[20:16:24] <jhutchins> Much better explanation than "rsync didn't work".
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4186[20:20:06] <Kobaz> replaced-url
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4188[20:20:26] <Kobaz> if i also apt-get kde-runtime it spits out another 10 deps, and then if i apt-get those, it lists like 50 other deps
4189[20:20:32] <Kobaz> they all refuse to install automatically
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4191[20:21:36] <Kobaz> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
4192[20:21:36] * dpkg selects kobaz's ultra-s3kr3t collection
4193[20:21:40] <Kobaz> no held packages either
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4196[20:22:26] <johnkeates> dpkg --set-selections
4197[20:22:27] <dpkg> wish i knew, johnkeates
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4199[20:22:46] <greycat> If installing kde-blah doesn't work then my *first* guess is that you are not running jessie.
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4201[20:24:24] <johnkeates> use aptitude
4202[20:24:27] <johnkeates> or synaptic
4203[20:24:31] <johnkeates> or dillo
4204[20:24:31] <jhutchins> ,v xchat
4205[20:24:32] <judd> Package: xchat on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.3
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4212[20:25:32] <Kobaz> usually i just write a little script to parse the deps list and apt-get install them
4213[20:25:44] <Kobaz> generally works fine
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4218[20:26:01] <Kobaz> wondering if there was a better way
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4220[20:26:23] <greycat> That makes no sense.
4221[20:26:23] <TomTomTosch> Kobaz: apt-cache policy and aptitude why-not kde-runtime would help.
4222[20:26:27] <Kobaz> k
4223[20:26:46] <greycat> If apt-get install A doesn't work but "apt-get install A B C D E F G" works then something is very wrong.
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4231[20:27:30] <Black-Ridder> hi everybody
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4233[20:27:35] <ma__rc> hey, who's running stretch or sid?
4234[20:27:43] <jhutchins> Kobaz: I wonder if apt or aptitude would work?
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4236[20:27:51] <greycat> Nobody.
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4238[20:28:02] <greycat> If we were, we'd be in OFTC:#debian-next
4239[20:28:02] <Black-Ridder> does someone use apache? i've a problem, basic problem,
4240[20:28:06] <Kobaz> i just apt-gotted all the packages in the list and it downgraded some stuff and now it's good
4241[20:28:06] <jhutchins> ma__rc: Mostly people on #debian-next on oftc.net
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4243[20:28:28] <greycat> It downgraded. Seriously....
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4246[20:28:33] <greycat> !frankendebian
4247[20:28:33] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
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4249[20:28:36] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: 57% of the sites on the web run apache, so yes, someone uses it.
4250[20:28:52] <Black-Ridder> yes but someone connected here :p
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4252[20:29:11] <sypher> !ask
4253[20:29:12] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
4254[20:29:12] <greycat> Just ask your question.
4255[20:30:12] <Black-Ridder> my problem is i can't see my site,... i've tried to put my files in {/var/replaced-url
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4257[20:30:47] <jhutchins> There's more to it than just moving the files.
4258[20:30:54] <jhutchins> !apache
4259[20:30:54] <dpkg> Apache HTTPD is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server. Ask me about <apache2>, <install apache>, <apache manual>. See also <cnrd>, <userdir>, <htaccess>. replaced-url
4260[20:30:55] <greycat> Black-Ridder: which version of Debian?
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4262[20:31:55] <Black-Ridder> debian 7
4263[20:32:12] <greycat> Ah, good old wheezy.
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4265[20:32:28] <greycat> With a default config (no virtual hosts) /var/replaced-url
4266[20:32:40] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: replaced-url
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4268[20:32:53] <Black-Ridder> no doesn't work,... :(
4269[20:33:06] <greycat> Did you change the configs? Enable virtual hosts?
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4271[20:33:28] <Black-Ridder> Apache2 Debian Default Page
4272[20:33:51] <Black-Ridder> yes, but when i restore default it still not work
4273[20:34:10] <Black-Ridder> how can i reset apache2?
4274[20:34:31] <Black-Ridder> to have a new install and erase all my changes
4275[20:34:41] <greycat> Purge all of the apache packages and reinstall them.
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4277[20:35:08] <Black-Ridder> apt-get purge && autoremove apache2?
4278[20:35:40] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: Did you look at /var/log/apache2/error.log?
4279[20:35:40] <Black-Ridder> (i want erase all the configuration)
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4283[20:36:22] <Black-Ridder> yes but i've broke the logs,... rm access.log, touch access.log and chmod 777 access.log
4284[20:36:33] <greycat> fucking hell
4285[20:36:42] <greycat> Is there anything you DIDN'T break?
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4287[20:36:49] <sypher> His keyboard, apparently.
4288[20:36:56] <Black-Ridder> yes haha
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4292[20:39:23] <Black-Ridder> do you know how to repair the logs?
4293[20:39:40] <Kobaz> teh brokens
4294[20:39:59] <greycat> Find a non-broken Debian 7 system and copy the ownership and permissions of the damaged files.
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4298[20:42:39] <Black-Ridder> hmmm
4299[20:42:56] <Black-Ridder> i dont had any machine to réinstall :p
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4302[20:43:10] <Kobaz> virtualbox
4303[20:44:44] <Black-Ridder> hmm i'm googling to find the rights, more efficient than install virtually
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4305[20:44:50] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: The Lenny box I have access to has them owned by root:adm and 640
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4310[20:45:32] <Black-Ridder> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 3187646 2012-03-10 11:31 access.log
4311[20:45:32] <Black-Ridder> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 50140004 2012-03-04 07:47 access.log.1
4312[20:45:32] <Black-Ridder> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 87916 2012-03-10 11:31 error.log
4313[20:45:35] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: Note that if you messed with the logs while apache was running you'll need to restart.
4314[20:45:36] <Black-Ridder> yes
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4316[20:46:32] <Black-Ridder> now rebooting
4317[20:47:20] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: Why reboot?
4318[20:47:23] <Black-Ridder> unable to open logs always
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4321[20:47:44] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: /var/replaced-url
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4324[20:48:09] <greycat> What do you mean "unable to open logs"?
4325[20:48:23] <Black-Ridder> that's my error message
4326[20:48:29] <greycat> Where do you see this?
4327[20:48:38] <Black-Ridder> logs must chown replaced-url
4328[20:48:47] <Black-Ridder> at the starting of server
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4332[20:49:39] <greycat> Did you break the permissions on the *directories* too?
4333[20:50:01] <Black-Ridder> yes ^^
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4335[20:50:21] <Black-Ridder> restarting
4336[20:51:00] <greycat> Stop fuckdoing reboting.
4337[20:51:05] <greycat> Gah.
4338[20:51:08] <Black-Ridder> ok
4339[20:51:19] <Kobaz> yeah dont reboot
4340[20:51:20] <Kobaz> that's bad
4341[20:51:28] <greycat> replaced-url
4342[20:51:31] <Kobaz> reboot = very very very last thing you ever want to do, to fix a problem
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4344[20:51:36] <Kobaz> (on *nix anyway)
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4346[20:51:51] <Kobaz> windows, yeah whatever go for it, rebooting usually fixes stuff because the os is *THAT* bad
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4349[20:52:44] <Kobaz> the reason rebooting fixes things in windows is because something in-memory gets corrupted or whatever, and when you boot fresh, you no longer have the icky stuff in memory
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4352[20:53:12] <Black-Ridder> i've many error, [can't open logs]
4353[20:53:17] <Black-Ridder> action start failed
4354[20:53:27] <greycat> Then find out what is WRONG and FIX IT.
4355[20:53:42] <Black-Ridder> and socket already in use or something lika that
4356[20:53:48] <jhutchins> Black-Ridder: THat installation I was looking at is very old.
4357[20:53:54] <dvs> or at least describe it instead of saying "many error"
4358[20:53:58] <Black-Ridder> the 3 problem
4359[20:53:59] <greycat> replaced-url
4360[20:54:00] <TomTomTosch> or at least pastebin your errors...
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4365[20:55:07] <Black-Ridder> first we've to repair the logs i think an next the others
4366[20:55:20] <Kobaz> logs... logs... they've big, heavy and wood!
4367[20:55:32] <Kobaz> *they're
4368[20:55:35] <Black-Ridder> only the logs of apache2
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4371[20:55:49] <greycat> Fix whatever you find to be broken.
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4373[20:56:06] <`Kevin> this backlog...
4374[20:56:17] * `Kevin smh
4375[20:56:19] <Black-Ridder> the think tha i've done to broke is erase them and recreate them
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4378[20:56:54] <Black-Ridder> i've also tried chmod 640 and chmow replaced-url
4379[20:56:54] <greycat> That would NOT cause the errors you have almost kinda sort hinted at instead of pasting.
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4386[20:59:24] <Black-Ridder> logs solved
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4388[20:59:30] <`Kevin> Black-Ridder: the logs are written as the root user, not replaced-url
4389[20:59:31] <TomTomTosch> is this some kind of rubber duck debugging?
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4392[20:59:47] <greycat> What's rubber duck debugging?
4393[20:59:51] <Black-Ridder> i redeleted them and restart apache2 and they regenerate themselve
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4396[21:00:03] <`Kevin> Chowning to replaced-url
4397[21:00:09] <`Kevin> just fyi
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4404[21:01:50] <unborn> yawn
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4406[21:03:15] <TomTomTosch> greycat: explain the issue to an inanimate object, often a rubber duck, possibly a coworker, often leaving out vital details.
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4408[21:06:28] * babilen can't believe greycat isn't familiar with the term
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4435[21:20:42] <wwalker> I install a package, it should install a file, dpkg -L says it installed a file, but it doesn't, what am I missing? details - replaced-url
4436[21:21:10] <greycat> wwalker: is it a CONFIG file? In a package that you are RE-installing?
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4438[21:21:40] <wwalker> greycat: maybe? /etc/init.d/heka
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4440[21:21:45] <greycat> !confmiss
4441[21:21:46] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
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4444[21:24:55] <rogfish> hi all! Im trying to get my ar drone gps dongle to work with linux (no idea if its possible) and I came across this site talking about it, but i have no idea what im looking at. This is the link: replaced-url
4445[21:25:44] <wwalker> greycat: thank you. that fixed it
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4451[21:27:42] <wwalker> how would I ask the system if a package has previously been installed, removed and had part of its config removed? as opposed to having never been installed?
4452[21:29:08] <babilen> wwalker: You mean packages that haven't been purged?
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4454[21:29:15] <awal1> aptitude search ~c may help
4455[21:29:23] <babilen> ^ which would be those
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4463[21:31:36] <wwalker> babilen: assume I'm only using dpkg. so I install heka, then I uninstall heka (dpkg -r heka; rm ...heka...) to retry my saltstack recipe, but nothing works because somehow dpkg knows that the package was previously installed and therefore only installs part of it.
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4470[21:32:05] <wwalker> how do I "properly" remove a package so that it is as if it had never been installed?
4471[21:32:11] <babilen> wwalker: You'd purge it
4472[21:32:12] <greycat> wwalker: that's not how you broke it. You broke it by doing "rm /etc/init.d/heka" on the command line.
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4474[21:32:22] <free_> apt purge
4475[21:32:23] <apt> rumour has it, purge is to complete wipe away a package, including it's config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package]
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4477[21:32:35] <babilen> heh
4478[21:32:49] <free_> I have an issue with my screen (virtual console mostly)
4479[21:33:06] <free_> grub works perfectly
4480[21:33:22] <babilen> wwalker: Run "aptitude search '~c'" to see all packages that have been removed but not purged (i.e. those of which configuration files are still on the system)
4481[21:33:36] <free_> once it gets to "init" mode, the screen starts flickering
4482[21:33:40] <wwalker> greycat: babilen awal1 - thank you
4483[21:33:46] <greycat> babilen: again, that is not the problem
4484[21:33:59] <greycat> if you apt-get remove and then apt-get install you DO NOT have wwalker's problem
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4486[21:34:06] <free_> flickering doubles of whatever is on the screen
4487[21:34:33] <free_> For some reason, it only flickers on the black part of the screen
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4490[21:34:57] <babilen> greycat: He asked how to show packages "previously been installed, removed and had part of its config removed?" -- it might very well be deep into xy problem land, but my understanding is that the packages characterised are those returned by that aptitude search
4491[21:35:00] <greycat> I don't know of any commands to show you packages which are allegedly installed but which are missing some config files.
4492[21:35:11] <free_> So when the screen is filled with text (such as on apt-get) it doesn't flicker as much
4493[21:35:15] <babilen> If config files have been removed you would be inf <confmiss? land
4494[21:35:24] <babilen> dpkg: confmiss
4495[21:35:24] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
4496[21:35:27] <greycat> Yes, confmiss has already been invoked and used.
4497[21:35:36] <greycat> You must have missed the first half of the discussion.
4498[21:35:40] <babilen> I have
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4505[21:38:05] <free_> In Xorg, only the top line (above Xorg's control) flickers, but when running Gnome, since the top bar is black, it also flickers.
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4508[21:38:26] <free_> I'm running on a Satellite s-75
4509[21:38:41] <free_> What's strange is that I had no issues during install
4510[21:38:48] <jhutchins> free_: You can find your VGA chipset with lspci -nn
4511[21:39:08] <jhutchins> free_: You can then check with x.org to see what the status of the driver is.
4512[21:39:09] <free_> Either in Graphics mode or in any of the virtual terminals
4513[21:39:11] <wwalker> dpkg -P heka is what I should have been doing. and dpkg -s (or aptitude searc \~c) tells me what I need to know. And! my saltstack works from bare metal equivalent (without having to reinstall the world :-)
4514[21:39:12] <dpkg> I think you lost me on that one, wwalker
4515[21:39:30] <jhutchins> free_: It may just be a matter of choosing a different resolution.
4516[21:39:43] <free_> I tried different resolutions. It doesn't help
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4518[21:40:01] <free_> The issue is also the virtual terminals (alt-F1)
4519[21:40:18] <awal1> free_, what if you boot with nomodset . just suggesting not sure if it can really help
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4521[21:40:32] <free_> I'll try
4522[21:40:49] <jhutchins> free_: These days those tend to run framebuffered, which is also affected by resolution/timing.
4523[21:41:02] <jhutchins> free_: xvidtune might yeild useful results.
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4526[21:42:34] <babilen> wwalker: Great .. come and visit us in #salt :)
4527[21:42:45] <babilen> Ah, you are there already
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4583[22:08:17] <MaxLanar`> hi. I can't connect to my ssh server with a public/private key pair ("the authentification method with the key my_key failed"). I put my public key in authorized_keys, chmod it to 600, reload/restart ssh server, but no luck :/
4584[22:08:25] <MaxLanar`> Have you any suggestion ?
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4586[22:08:41] <MaxLanar`> (it's the first time I try this)
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4588[22:08:50] <greycat> replaced-url
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4599[22:10:36] <MaxLanar`> thanks greycat
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4632[22:27:10] <jhutchins> #vbox sure is dead. 361 lurkers.
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4638[22:28:48] <gargaml> Hi
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4640[22:29:13] <gargaml> I'm getting issues with my wifi connection but I do not understand why...
4641[22:29:27] <gargaml> Here are my network interfaces
4642[22:29:30] <gargaml> replaced-url
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4644[22:29:39] <gargaml> and when I try to launch wpa_supplicant
4645[22:30:18] <gargaml> I have this error "Could not read interface p2p-dev-wlp1s0 flags: No such device"
4646[22:30:49] <gargaml> where does p2p-dev come from ?
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4649[22:31:36] <babilen> Repasted at: replaced-url
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4652[22:32:06] <gargaml> babilen: thanks, didn't know about that one
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4655[22:32:35] <babilen> It would probably help if you could paste your configuration also ..
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4657[22:33:16] <gargaml> wpa_supplicant.conf for instance ?
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4659[22:34:08] <babilen> replaced-url
4660[22:34:21] <BadPractice> hi, i made my own mail server with postfix/dovecot. When i want to send a email via thunderbird/sdmt/startls thunderbird gives an error "relay acess denied" and i also get an error in my syslog replaced-url
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4664[22:35:49] <gargaml> BadPractice: 2.5-1
4665[22:35:55] <gargaml> oups
4666[22:36:00] <gargaml> babilen: 2.5-1
4667[22:36:27] <BadPractice> gargaml: thats one old kernel
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4669[22:36:50] <`Kevin> 2.5 !?
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4674[22:37:09] <greycat> He was asked for the version of wpa_supplicant
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4676[22:37:43] <babilen> gargaml: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net then (this channel supports Debian stable) -- Looks like the same bug, but it hasn't been reported in Debian AFAICT
4677[22:37:44] <`Kevin> haha was about to say :)
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4679[22:38:30] <gargaml> babilen: thank you, I'm gonna read the link and go to debian-next
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4681[22:39:44] <babilen> gargaml: There seems to be a patch floating aroung, but you might want to stick to 2.3-2.4 in testing for the time being (and maybe report that bug to Debian)
4682[22:39:46] <sorta> if i edit /etc/sysctl.d/* do i need to run an update-foo or just reboot to effect the kernel ?
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4685[22:40:12] <babilen> *around
4686[22:40:29] <sypher> sorta: man sysctl has the answer.
4687[22:40:37] <MaxLanar`> greycat: here's what sshd -d give to me : replaced-url
4688[22:40:41] <MaxLanar`>
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4690[22:41:24] <greycat> MaxLanar`: means nothing to me... doesn't look like an obvious error... if you can't figure it out here, try #openssh
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4693[22:42:03] <MaxLanar`> greycat: (last line missing sorry) Failed publickey for user [...]
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4695[22:42:29] <greycat> failed *why*?
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4697[22:42:39] <MaxLanar`> greycat: yep, I will do that
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4699[22:43:03] <jhutchins> sorta: sysctl -p
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4701[22:43:49] <MaxLanar`> greycat: there is no why after :/, just identifiable data (IP, port, what is guess is RSA fingerprint)
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4703[22:45:04] <Sayona> it's oki to create only / /swap /boot ?
4704[22:45:08] <rogfish> hi! Can anyone here tell me what im looking at here? replaced-url
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4706[22:45:32] <rogfish> It seems to have something to do with what Im trying to do, but I have no idea what the purpose of that chat is
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4712[22:48:57] <greycat> Sayona: yes, that's OK.
4713[22:49:27] <Sayona> thanks
4714[22:49:36] <Sayona> greycat, butif something goes wrong with OS and I cannot access anymore the OS
4715[22:49:40] <Sayona> how i access the date?
4716[22:49:44] <greycat> What?
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4718[22:50:34] <Sayona> i want to create this debian server for backup propouse
4719[22:50:35] <greycat> What does this have to do with your choice of partitions?
4720[22:50:38] <Sayona> if my os will have problems in future!
4721[22:50:40] <Sayona> how I access the data
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4723[22:50:41] <Sayona> if i have only /
4724[22:50:50] <greycat> Then having one big / partition instead of a small / + medium-large /usr + medium-large /var + whatever makes no difference.
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4735[22:52:42] <Sayona> greycat, and how it's ok to have? if something goes wrong?
4736[22:53:06] <greycat> Sayona: I have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are asking.
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4738[22:53:16] <`Kevin> Sayona: you would likely boot off of cd but there are many other options such as putting the drive in another machine, the data is still readable if the drive isn't dead
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4740[22:53:41] <`Kevin> just like greycat said, the parition layout does not matter
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4742[22:53:53] <awal1> Sayona, I prefer to have all in / + swap; that avoid space limiting and headache about it
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4744[22:53:56] <Sayona> aaa `Kevin can I access the data in other pc no?
4745[22:54:23] <`Kevin> Sayona: if thats what you prefer, you can do that (moving the hard drive)
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4747[22:54:42] <Sayona> It's just a question if my linux will broken
4748[22:54:45] <Sayona> thanks
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4762[23:01:49] <gio> salve
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4764[23:01:58] <gio> !list
4765[23:01:58] <dpkg> gio: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi replaced-url
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4768[23:03:29] <free_> I had to log off for a bit. How do I read the archives of the past two hours?
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4771[23:04:53] <vibrations> hey guys i'm going batshit crazy here trying to install playonlinux
4772[23:05:13] <vibrations> on their website there's no mension on debian jessie
4773[23:05:22] <vibrations> and their commans doesnt work
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4777[23:06:07] <benaiah> free_: you need to log it yourself. #emacs doesn't allow public logging
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4779[23:06:47] <benaiah> free_: I use znc to stay always connected and then just connect to my VPS when I want to chat
4780[23:06:47] <free_> Dope. I needed to restart to try something. Now it's all lost :(
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4783[23:07:19] <benaiah> free_: Digital Ocean is a good choice IMO
4784[23:07:31] <benaiah> I have the $10/mo (IIRC) plan on there
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4787[23:08:01] <free_> It's just that my frambuffer is flickering, so i'll need to do a lot of restarting.
4788[23:08:02] <ryouma> benaiah: this is #debian
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4790[23:08:08] <TomTomTosch> #debian has logs. it's in the topic. it's being dumped once a day me thinks.
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4793[23:08:20] <benaiah> ryouma: oh shoot. dunno how I switched buffers
4794[23:08:26] <benaiah> ryouma: ty
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4796[23:08:36] <ryouma> chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog
4797[23:08:44] <ryouma> (according to topic)
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4813[23:17:23] <rogfish> Does anyone here have any experience using gpsd?
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4827[23:23:06] <Resilience> a little off-topic, but I am in a hurry, sorry, I have deleted by accident some folder with lins on the bookmark toolbar and I have done Edit->Undo, but it does get back all of my folder, just a part of it, is there something that I can do to recover that links folder?
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4833[23:26:50] <jhutchins> Resilience: Restore your backup.
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4837[23:28:16] <Resilience> jhutchins, from import backup -> restore?
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4839[23:29:05] <jhutchins> Resilience: Provided you have made a backup, yes.
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4843[23:29:59] <Resilience> jhutchins, I have not made a backup, and if done so, it would be unseful unlees it was from right 5 minutes ago...
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4846[23:31:08] <jhutchins> Resilience: I don't know what software you're using, bookmarks suggests a browser, and I don't know of any that automatically back up your bookmarks.
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4856[23:34:03] <Resilience> jhutchins, , as I said firefox, as I said the links in the "bookrmarks toolbar" they don't get saved with the back-ups, and it seems like they are stored or soemthing in the places.sqlite file, but hey aren't here, or at least I cannot find, so I _don't_ understand if you're meaning some type of back-up file that firefox mades or somekind of bacl-up that _you_ think I should be doing
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4875[23:44:11] <awal1> Resilience, if you haven't made a backup, your bookmarks are not stored anywhere; when remove, they are removed
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4878[23:45:40] <Resilience> awal1, and the ./.mozilla/firefox/<user/>/bookmarksbackups ? it seems as if there is an automated back-up
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4887[23:48:46] <awal1> Resilience, I dont see such stuuf in my .mizilla. (ls ~/.mozilla/firefox ---» 6qlngj7e.default profiles.ini. Next time, make a backup regularly, or just right clic in your bookmars , copy and paste then somewhere in a plain text file
4888[23:49:58] <awal1> if you have them organized in folders, of course...
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4900[23:54:08] <Resilience> awal1, pwd -> /home/<user>/.mozilla/firefox/<user>.default/bookmarkbackups :o
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4902[23:55:23] <awal1> Resilience, what you want to tell me exactly?
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4906[23:56:28] <Resilience> awal1, I was being sarcastic
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