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this is #debian an IRC -Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)
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1 [00:01:01] <lgc> Hi. I just installed VirtualBox 5.0 on my LMDE host. It can read the CD, but the USB options are greyed out. (I forgot the name of who was helping me with this a while ago :( ).
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10 [00:02:31] <teraflops> whoever runs Sigyn it's obvious it was a buffer incident and my bot ended k-lined instead of me, my bot that is not even here?
11 [00:02:41] <teraflops> wtf
12 [00:03:11] <teraflops> trolls everyday hanging by #debian I pastefail and k-lined :P
13 [00:03:18] <teraflops> thanks
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15 [00:04:48] <TomTomTosch> Collateral damage is inevitable in war
16 [00:04:54] <teraflops> :P
17 [00:05:04] <petn-randall> pipl: It's better to ask your question instead.
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29 [00:16:23] <teraflops> TomTomTosch: problem solved thanks to #freenode ;)
30 [00:17:09] <TomTomTosch> x)
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32 [00:17:43] <format_c> teraflops, interessing. I haven't read anything on freenode.
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34 [00:18:01] <format_c> oh wait
35 [00:18:02] <format_c> sorry
36 [00:18:12] <format_c> freenode != #freenode
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39 [00:19:44] <unborn> lgc: you would need to enable usbs there..
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44 [00:22:51] <teraflops> format_c: k-lined :S the funny thing is that Sigyn does not do ipv6, looks like it needs an upgrade
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48 [00:24:33] <wo00rm> hi
49 [00:24:35] <format_c> teraflops, ?? do you mean that the ones having v4 only can't read v6 messages vice versa?
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51 [00:25:33] <format_c> ... or has it been a joke?
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54 [00:26:05] <teraflops> I just notices the bot k-lined my bot that is ipv4 only and not here, and I just got banned
55 [00:26:17] <teraflops> noticed*
56 [00:26:39] <TomTomTosch> probably because of the hostmask.
57 [00:26:47] <teraflops> it had to be the other way around I suppose
58 [00:27:03] <wooden_> i used to launch a separate X server for certain games, but just running `/usr/bin/X :2 vt2` doesn't seem to work in debian stretch. i get: "xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied)" i guess this is related to Xorg not being setuid root anymore? anyone know a workaround?
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61 [00:27:37] <teraflops> TomTomTosch: hmm my bot has a bot mask I just have the hostame via rdns
62 [00:28:03] <teraflops> nvm it got fixed
63 [00:28:18] <wo00rm> Debian 8 minimal install gives this error: replaced-url
64 [00:28:34] <wo00rm> certbot : Depends: python-certbot (= 0.8.1-2~bpo8+1) but it is not going to be installed
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66 [00:29:29] <teraflops> wo00rm: it looks like a backport package
67 [00:29:50] <teraflops> wo00rm: I mean that's not a Debian 8 minimal install
68 [00:29:52] <wo00rm> certbot is a jessie-backport package, correct
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70 [00:30:22] <wo00rm> I added the backports to my sources.list manually, teraflops
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72 [00:30:28] <teraflops> maybe the backport is broken?
73 [00:30:49] <TomTomTosch> you still need to use -t jessie-backports to install from there.
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76 [00:31:31] <teraflops> ah right no -t jessie-backports there
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81 [00:33:26] <wo00rm> TomTomTosch, Ahhh I forgot about this
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83 [00:33:39] <Guest19571> hey I'm running debian with LXDE I need help configuring my sound. on pavucontrol it says no sound cards detected.
84 [00:33:59] <Guest19571> I'm using my desktop pc with a coby HDTV through serial port
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88 [00:35:34] <slbtc> so if someone can help it would be apreciated.
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90 [00:36:14] <awal1> which tool I can use for be able to mouve the mouse cursor from monitor A to monitor B no matters which DE/WM I'm in?
91 [00:37:16] <awal1> mouve the mouse pointer using keyboard shortcut ^
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94 [00:39:52] <Eliza777> How to autorun 2 users on lightdm?
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98 [00:40:36] <teraflops> Eliza777: why? what's your goal?
99 [00:41:12] <unborn> teraflops: whats wrong with ixhat?
100 [00:41:16] <unborn> *xchat
101 [00:41:29] <Eliza777> teraflops, need autorun 2 users
102 [00:41:41] <teraflops> nothing if you use ie6 too :P
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104 [00:41:56] <teraflops> Eliza777: yeah but why? what's your goal?
105 [00:42:15] <Eliza777> teraflops, just need
106 [00:42:21] <teraflops> ok
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108 [00:43:54] <teraflops> unborn: xchat does not do sasl iirc and latest activity in its development is from the beginning of this decade :S
109 [00:43:57] <Eliza777> teraflops, how?
110 [00:44:11] <teraflops> Eliza777: why?
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119 [00:45:18] <unborn> teraflops: sasl - uhm, mine does.. yeah I agree development is really not there.. but its somehow still works for me.. I thought that there is some security issues or something
120 [00:45:37] <teraflops> yeah I guess so
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123 [00:45:53] <teraflops> hexchat looks like a sane alternative
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130 [00:46:53] <unborn> I agree, did not had time to look at it yet.. I know for windows - I suggest them on that platform always to use it
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136 [00:49:14] <hyperbeam> I run hexchat, works pretty well. Good alternative to xchat
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138 [00:49:47] <dvs> hyperbeam, xchat is dead.
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142 [00:51:20] <hyperbeam> yes it is
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145 [00:51:51] <unborn> crap, so Im only one here running it :D
146 [00:51:56] <teraflops> xD
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148 [00:54:13] <unborn> okay the question is, would my configs work with hexchat? perhaps not..
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152 [00:55:58] <dvs> unborn, no, you'll have to start over.
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154 [00:56:26] <hyperbeam> unborn, its good to start fresh sometimes. find new things
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156 [00:56:57] * dvs does a fresh install of Windows 10
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162 [00:59:02] <unborn> hyperbeam well all i need is ignore list future which I have here with buttons and user list commands that I can modify to my needs.. I mean - been using xchat for about decade heh, didnt even realised that is not in active development for about same time
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164 [00:59:55] <hyperbeam> unborn, you dont update things in a decade? Maybe you need to follow DVS' lead and reinstall everything! XD
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167 [01:00:52] <unborn> hyperbeam: oh I do.. im running latest - but its just habit to install things and if they are in repos I do not question them then
168 [01:01:06] <unborn> specially if they works as swiss clocks
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170 [01:01:46] <hyperbeam> haha well, its good to evolve. Find yourself a new irc client :)
171 [01:02:06] <TomTomTosch> well.. this doesn't sound good replaced-url
172 [01:03:02] <hyperbeam> lol, CVE from 2011
173 [01:03:13] <unborn> hyperbeam: normally I would use irssi but on desktop some fancy gui is always nice.. im evolved enough - I will test hexchat if its in repos next week thanks
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176 [01:03:57] <unborn> TomTomTosch: ah yes that happened to me 2times
177 [01:03:58] <hyperbeam> unborn, it should be in there, Good luck!
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181 [01:04:43] <unborn> will do switch in monday, tomorrow I have to go out to see my mates out of the city.
182 [01:05:13] <unborn> also this makes me wander - why xchat is still in repos then?
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184 [01:06:01] <TomTomTosch> it will be not after jessie.
185 [01:06:32] <dvs> someone just needs to file a bug with that CVE and it'll probably be gone.
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188 [01:07:27] <hyperbeam> a lot of it is old habits die hard
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191 [01:09:23] <kroSoft> hi all
192 [01:09:29] <unborn> okay im sold
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194 [01:10:18] <kroSoft> i want to configure an eggdrop an my vps debian 8, but it's necessary to add tcl
195 [01:10:23] <kroSoft> i do this
196 [01:10:46] <kroSoft> sudo apt-get install tcl8.5 tcl8.5-dev tcllib
197 [01:10:56] <kroSoft> but the proble is the same
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199 [01:11:20] <kroSoft> when i make config
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201 [01:11:26] <kroSoft> i have this message
202 [01:11:45] <kroSoft> see flood
203 [01:12:02] <unborn> oh that hexchat looks like clone of xchat
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205 [01:12:25] <kroSoft> please i need help
206 [01:12:29] <unborn> configs works! that is good
207 [01:12:40] <teraflops> a *sane* *mantained* clone
208 [01:12:40] <missmbob> unborn: that's because it's a fork of xchat
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211 [01:13:49] <LtL> kroSoft: try ./configure --with-tcllib=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtcl.so' '--with-tclinc=/usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h
212 [01:14:11] <LtL> kroSoft: provided you're 86_64
213 [01:14:27] <kroSoft> 64
214 [01:14:36] <kroSoft> LtL
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218 [01:15:14] <hyperbeam> unborn, hexchat was a fork of xchat
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221 [01:16:14] <kroSoft> LtL i try you command, see the result in #flood
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223 [01:16:45] <LtL> kroSoft: you might need to enclose those paths with single quotes, check those files exist first
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227 [01:17:21] <kroSoft> ok
228 [01:17:26] <kroSoft> wait
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240 [01:20:05] <LtL> kroSoft: install pastebinit
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242 [01:20:23] <kroSoft> ok LtL :))
243 [01:21:04] <unborn> hyperbeam: yeah I got that clearly. its nice that config files worked right a way.. xchat was just part of every distro Ive been used so I guess it was my bad habit to not check any other gui for irc.. I remember when hexchat started but I did not trust it for some reason.. nevermind
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245 [01:21:26] <unborn> guys thanks for explanation, I would be perhaps running xchat for another decade :D
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248 [01:22:19] <LtL> kroSoft: im lagging badly
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253 [01:24:15] <LtL> okay dropping 50% packets brb
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258 [01:28:20] <kroSoft> LtL
259 [01:28:23] <kroSoft> replaced-url
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266 [01:32:35] <LtL> kroSoft: my errors were similar, peek at this, replaced-url
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269 [01:33:29] <wsky> will icedove 45.2 come to jessie backports?
270 [01:33:38] <wsky> also will mozilla continue the thunderbird project?
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274 [01:34:55] <TomTomTosch> i don't think it will come to backports, but security is at 45.1 now.
275 [01:35:01] <sikun> so, I am trying to install debian on a HP AIO desktop... at first, I had to disable secureboot for it to boot from the USB key as it was saying invalid keys
276 [01:35:04] <sikun> so then it installed...
277 [01:35:12] <sikun> but it is trying to install it as UEFI
278 [01:35:15] <teraflops> wsky: for the second question I don't think so
279 [01:35:19] <kroSoft> LtL libtcl.so is a shortcut in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and /usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h does not exist
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282 [01:36:11] <LtL> kroSoft: run 'find /usr/ libtcl.so' and 'find /usr/ tcl.h'
283 [01:36:16] <kroSoft> ok
284 [01:36:20] <HyperBeam> sikun: Im not sure, but does your BIOS not support UEFI Boot?
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286 [01:36:27] <LtL> kroSoft: youre probably missing a package
287 [01:36:43] <sikun> HyperBeam, it does
288 [01:37:01] <sikun> I have gone in, disabled secure boot, but it won't even let me enable legacy boot options
289 [01:37:03] <LtL> kroSoft: you should patch a vulnerability before compiling btw
290 [01:37:07] <sikun> keeps saying I need to disable secure boot
291 [01:37:10] <sikun> even though I have
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293 [01:38:40] <kroSoft> LtL
294 [01:38:41] <kroSoft> LtL
295 [01:38:52] <kroSoft> LtLlllllllllllllllllllllll it's worrkkkkkkkkkkkk
296 [01:39:02] <kroSoft> thank you veryyy much :DDDD
297 [01:39:47] <wsky> teraflops: so what will we use if thunderbird gets abandoned?
298 [01:39:50] <LtL> kroSoft: cool
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300 [01:39:56] <joqmos_> Hey.
301 [01:40:02] <wsky> hello.
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303 [01:40:09] <joqmos_> Does anyone know what theme is used in the
304 [01:40:11] <joqmos_> Oops.
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306 [01:40:21] <teraflops> wsky: tdb is not abandoned
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308 [01:40:36] <wsky> i know it it might be in the future
309 [01:40:36] <joqmos_> Does anyone know what theme is used in the Debian graphical installer? It looks like Clearlooks, but I am not sure...
310 [01:40:43] <mernilio> Hi all!
311 [01:41:03] <mernilio> Im sure it's Clearlooks joqmos_
312 [01:41:26] <mernilio> There.. a perfect slide in this channel!
313 [01:41:27] <teraflops> in the future we might be kicked by an enormous rock from the sky, so who knows
314 [01:41:54] <wsky> you just said you don't think it will be continued
315 [01:42:02] <sikun> I have even tried re-enabling secureboot, telling it to use custom keys
316 [01:42:06] <wsky> so i'm asking what will we use then ...
317 [01:42:10] <sikun> but it still won't f'n boot
318 [01:42:11] <mernilio> teraflops: now hush young asshole, ur so awkward ...
319 [01:42:18] <joqmos_> mernilio: There are some differences though. Could I dissect the installer to find the theme?
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322 [01:42:55] <mernilio> joqmos_: maybe, if some other would have the hounor?
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324 [01:43:24] <TomTomTosch> mernilio: be respectful in here, please.
325 [01:43:29] <mernilio> Im most unfamiliar with american stuff.
326 [01:43:35] <sikun> I just disabled/renabled secure boot, set it to custom keys to which then booted from the UEFI thumb drive
327 [01:43:37] <wsky> TomTomTosch: teraflops was not to begin with
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329 [01:43:40] <sikun> installing it one more time
330 [01:43:42] <teraflops> mernilio: you just enter here read a random message without context and I'm awkward ...
331 [01:43:47] <joqmos_> TomTomTosch: Not unrespectful, I may have phrased my response badly.
332 [01:43:55] <mernilio> Tom I am dude! Go have some fat and Grilled! :-P
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334 [01:44:10] <wsky> teraflops: stop trolling
335 [01:44:17] <TomTomTosch> joqmos_: i wasn't talking to you.
336 [01:44:30] <teraflops> wsky: sorry?
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338 [01:44:33] <joqmos_> TomTomTosch: I realized.
339 [01:44:37] <mernilio> I have laid my guns, okay?
340 [01:44:38] <wsky> teraflops: you should be.
341 [01:44:40] <joqmos_> ;)
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344 [01:45:02] <mernilio> But.... ;-)
345 [01:45:37] <teraflops> wsky: stop asking such silly things, moxilla not putting money in thunderbird does not mean thunderbird is abandoned you fool
346 [01:45:43] <teraflops> mozilla*
347 [01:46:08] <wsky> can someone intervene to him please?
348 [01:46:16] <wsky> jelly: you around?
349 [01:46:16] <mernilio> teraflops: c'mon .. we like you man!
350 [01:46:28] <teraflops> mernilio: stfu
351 [01:46:46] <wsky> unbelivable
352 [01:47:04] <mernilio> Some pills i got from the guy running this joint ..
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354 [01:47:51] <mernilio> wsky: we are all in a good mood, right? :-)
355 [01:48:07] <wsky> going down hill always when i come here
356 [01:48:22] <cafuego> ugh. ugh. ugh. how dare you. ugh.
357 [01:48:24] <mernilio> Sure!
358 [01:48:34] <teraflops> wsky: good bye then
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362 [01:48:47] <teraflops> mernilio: also stfu it you only have to say 2:11 mernilio ⎸ teraflops: now hush young asshole, ur so awkward ...
363 [01:48:49] <wsky> yes. that's the last time i heard from you, troll
364 [01:48:55] <teraflops> bye
365 [01:49:23] <mernilio> teraflops: i dont like your way of talking to people! Tants not fair!
366 [01:49:30] <wsky> this is not only off topic but highly inapropriate
367 [01:49:32] <teraflops> mernilio: ignore me
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369 [01:49:51] <mernilio> No, i will put the cops on you!
370 [01:50:01] <LtL> !beer wsky
371 [01:50:02] * dpkg deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for wsky
372 [01:50:05] <mernilio> fucking pedophile
373 [01:50:09] <TomTomTosch> stay on topic or stay quiet...
374 [01:50:17] <teraflops> mernilio: pfff
375 [01:50:29] <cafuego> Both of you, put each other on ignore and stay on topic.
376 [01:50:40] <mernilio> Sorry.. that was my worst accusation... ;-) ^^
377 [01:50:40] <teraflops> mernilio: are high? gross
378 [01:50:44] <teraflops> you*
379 [01:51:02] <teraflops> mernilio: dont do drugs dude
380 [01:51:34] <teraflops> cafuego: fair enough
381 [01:51:53] <mernilio> No, that's not fair enuff!
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383 [01:52:34] <wsky> LtL: you can tip me so i can get actuall beer instead
384 [01:52:50] <wsky> hard to get drunk with dpkg digital beer
385 [01:53:06] <LtL> wsky: how 'bout a bitcoin :)
386 [01:53:12] <wsky> paypal?
387 [01:53:26] <sabusanta> LtL: Ill take a bitcoin too plz
388 [01:53:48] <mernilio> How can you think that going with cia drones and kill familis in afganistan supports american freedom? Its all plain stupid if you think so
389 [01:54:41] <mernilio> I dont do drugs, I have nerver used them.
390 [01:55:11] <teraflops> mernilio: in kindly suggest you to stay in fucking topic please
391 [01:55:39] <mernilio> No problem with that.!
392 [01:56:27] <sabusanta> #debian-offtopic if you'd like
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394 [01:57:08] <mernilio> No.. i like it here so you can hear your mother screeam while i start up my schainsaw
395 [01:57:26] <mernilio> No.. that was overdo.. sorry! :-)
396 [01:57:51] <mernilio> I will go
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404 [02:05:04] <snfgf> what is right place to put sources for software i install from sources according to fhs?
405 [02:07:45] <kroSoft> LtL are u here
406 [02:07:55] <kroSoft> ?
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408 [02:08:45] <kroSoft> u know how i can creat a vhosts, to use it in psybnc ?
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427 [02:30:53] <alercah> Hey all. Just updated my testing machine and now xbacklight says that none of my outputs have a backlight. This is false. How do I diagnose this?
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475 [03:20:55] <_unreal_> how would I find out what video drivers are loaded?
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478 [03:23:55] <awal1> lsmod
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481 [03:27:01] <awal1> _unreal_, lsmod | grep what you want
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483 [03:27:13] <awal1> you will have to find out what to grep
484 [03:27:14] <_unreal_> there is like 3 things
485 [03:27:20] <_unreal_> arg
486 [03:27:43] <_unreal_> trying to make this headless modual a non headless
487 [03:28:35] <_unreal_> awal1, I installed this replaced-url
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489 [03:28:39] <_unreal_> version 4
490 [03:29:07] <awal1> i'm clueless about server stuff, sorry
491 [03:29:09] <_unreal_> but I dont know how to do the upgrade to make it a full gui system not a headless
492 [03:29:51] <awal1> many people here run debian as server , you may get an advice later
493 [03:29:52] <snfgf> HELLO
494 [03:30:12] <awal1> is saturday night, usually people are drunk or sleeping :P :D
495 [03:30:43] <_unreal_> sigh.... I'm house sitting
496 [03:31:04] <_unreal_> awal1, from this page replaced-url
497 [03:31:04] <awal1> thats the best
498 [03:31:11] <snfgf> i am trying to understand fonts
499 [03:31:15] <_unreal_> replaced-url
500 [03:31:24] <_unreal_> there is that update script
501 [03:31:28] <snfgf> right now i want to know where 'xterm*font:blah' searches for FONTS
502 [03:31:52] <snfgf> because i have many directoryes which may be searched
503 [03:32:16] <snfgf> for example, /usr/share/fonts/{X11,truetype,cmap} and more
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505 [03:32:36] <snfgf> let us say it is X11
506 [03:32:41] <awal1> _unreal_, no clue
507 [03:32:50] <snfgf> in X11 i have 100dpi 75dpi Type1 AND MORE
508 [03:32:55] <snfgf> O_o
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510 [03:33:17] <snfgf> fonts are not easy
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516 [03:38:08] <_unreal_> any one alive that may be able to help?
517 [03:38:15] <_unreal_> replaced-url
518 [03:40:26] <missmbob> you know curl isn't default, right? did you apt-get install it?
519 [03:40:30] <awal1> snfgf, what are you trying to do? change xterm fonts?
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521 [03:41:48] <snfgf> awal1, yes and my objective is to understand how fonts work and how fc-* tools work and all the relevant configuration directories so i can easily do things in future that should be simple like changing xterm font
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523 [03:42:51] <snfgf> awal1, i would also like to know how i may uninstall fonts because i am only using 1 yet have several thousand
524 [03:43:48] <awal1> snfgf, fc-list will list all the fonts you have
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526 [03:44:15] <awal1> apt-cache search fonts may be helpful for uninstall fonts pkgs
527 [03:45:24] <themill> "aptitude search ~nfont~i" might be instructive, but it's not like these are big packages anyway
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529 [03:46:12] <awal1> to make xterm use X font set that via Xdefaults or Xressources "xterm*font: your font"
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532 [03:47:06] <awal1> there is also xterm -fn yourfont but I havent tried it and dont know how it works
533 [03:47:23] <snfgf> i think my first step is to remove most fonts because fc-list just shows too many
534 [03:47:42] <awal1> man xterm | less then check RESSOURCES SECTION FOR FONTS STUFF
535 [03:48:03] <snfgf> apt-cache search fonts returns LOTS of packages
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538 [03:49:16] <awal1> I use DejaVu variant and I have installed ttf-dejavu pkg
539 [03:50:23] <snfgf> why does 'apt-cache search fonts' return so many more packages than 'aptitude search ~nfont~i'?
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542 [03:51:18] <awal1> snfgf, apt search for what you have asked
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544 [03:51:30] <_unreal_> solved my update issue that was part of that pastebin, I was missing "curl"
545 [03:51:59] <awal1> fonts pkgs usually start with fonts-, ttf-, oft-
546 [03:52:19] <awal1> otf-, not oft-
547 [03:52:20] <_unreal_> yay auto downloading lots of moduals :)
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550 [03:53:25] <snfgf> awal1, what is correct way to search for packages that for example start with 'fonts-'? apt search fonts-* ?
551 [03:54:09] <awal1> snfgf, try it , thats why I told you how fonts pkg names start usually
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553 [03:54:58] <awal1> snfgf, in your case aptitude will be more suitable
554 [03:55:57] <awal1> aptitude search ttf- or fonts- or otf- and if you see at the beginning of the fonts listed i that means it's installed
555 [03:56:15] <snfgf> ty
556 [03:56:15] <awal1> thats all
557 [03:56:24] <snfgf> i also get xfonts search results
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559 [03:56:37] <snfgf> event though i searched fonts-*
560 [03:56:44] <snfgf> just wondering why that is
561 [03:57:00] <awal1> replaced-url
562 [03:57:24] <snfgf> don't know why i have all thse font packages
563 [03:57:37] <snfgf> might take me some time to remove
564 [03:57:51] <themill> snfgf: apt-cache search is telling you about the packages that are available, not the packages that are installed.
565 [03:58:00] <themill> snfgf: btw what actual problem are you trying to solve?
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567 [03:58:40] <snfgf> tidying up fonts
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570 [03:59:31] <snfgf> also in my aptitude results i have many pairs of two lines, the first begins with 'P' (package?) and the next with 'v' (version?); i am using 64bit debian yet all the versions are i386
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572 [04:00:09] <awal1> snfgf, if you want to check only the installed fonts use aptitude for ?installed
573 [04:00:17] <awal1> try aptitude search '~i ttf-'
574 [04:00:21] <themill> 'tidying up' is a activity not a problem
575 [04:00:46] <awal1> v virtual
576 [04:00:53] <snfgf> awal1, much better
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579 [04:02:25] <awal1> ~i is a short for ask aptitude to show the pkg only if installed
580 [04:02:26] <apt> You is a short for ask aptitude to show the pkg only if installed?
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582 [04:03:06] <snfgf> what does the 'A' beside the 'i' in the results mean?
583 [04:03:40] <awal1> snfgf, automatically installed
584 [04:03:45] <awal1> check man aptitude
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587 [04:05:27] <snfgf> i have my lists of font packages now how do i find the name to use with xterm*font:?
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593 [04:08:19] <awal1> cf-list and choose one
594 [04:08:46] <awal1> fc-list
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596 [04:09:13] <awal1> Me I use DejaVu Sans, for example
597 [04:09:13] <snfgf> okay, thanks
598 [04:09:17] <snfgf> how do i check my current font?
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601 [04:09:44] <awal1> because the fonts are compatible with non latin alphabets
602 [04:10:07] <awal1> they are similar to Bitsream Vera ones but with
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604 [04:10:21] <awal1> but with non latin characters support
605 [04:10:35] <awal1> your current font?
606 [04:10:38] <awal1> no clue
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608 [04:11:08] <awal1> replaced-url
609 [04:11:22] <snfgf> i notice that the fonts of fc-list have :style=Some Style after their names
610 [04:11:36] <awal1> a litle bit out to date but still current
611 [04:11:48] <snfgf> do i include the :style part?
612 [04:11:54] <snfgf> in .Xresources
613 [04:11:57] <awal1> Ok, one example more and i go watch my movie
614 [04:12:53] <awal1> I use: DejaVu Sans:size=8:style=Bold:antialias=True
615 [04:13:10] <snfgf> ty for the help
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617 [04:14:05] <snfgf> i have this line
618 [04:14:20] <snfgf> XTerm*font: Bitstream Charter:style=Italic
619 [04:14:31] <snfgf> that doesn't appear to change anything after i reload .Xresources
620 [04:16:01] <snfgf> it looks like it's a '.pfb' font file whatever that is
621 [04:17:45] <awal1> depending on the DE, WM or program, you may need to use size= or pixelsize=
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623 [04:18:18] <awal1> you have that where?
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627 [04:19:28] <snfgf> font file for Bitstream Charter is /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/
628 [04:20:06] <sikun> so yeah, I am bored as hell.. wanted to try something after getting an idea at Walmart... I saw they had some 32GB flash drives for like $8 or something.. so I bought 4 of them and a USB hub. I have them all configured in a RAID 0 array atm, but question
629 [04:20:26] <sikun> if I plug this hub into another linux machine, is each drive tagged by mdadm as a raid device or part of a raid array
630 [04:20:58] <sikun> and yes, this is a rather pointless task at hand
631 [04:21:00] <sikun> lol
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635 [04:22:21] <awal1> create a hidden plain text file in you home named .Xdefaults and put in the file xterm*font: Bitstream Charter
636 [04:22:48] <awal1> save it and run in terminal xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
637 [04:22:53] <awal1> check if it works
638 [04:23:23] <awal1> xterm*font: Bitstream Charter:Italic ^
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641 [04:24:43] <awal1> or maybe better xterm*font: Bitsream Charter:pixelsize=thesizeyouwant:Italic
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643 [04:25:34] <snfgf> no style=Italic?
644 [04:25:50] <awal1> snfgf, just giving you piste. play with all combinations size=..., pixelsize=, :Italic, style=Italic and so
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646 [04:26:23] <awal1> I change fonts for other terminals like mrxvt and a few more apps but not xterm
647 [04:26:34] <awal1> bcoz I dont use it so much
648 [04:26:50] <awal1> I use mrxvt, guake, terminator and lxterminal
649 [04:26:59] <awal1> juste pistes
650 [04:27:29] <awal1> dont forget to merge you .Xdefaults when done with the file
651 [04:27:53] <awal1> and you will have to load it when you login in your X session
652 [04:28:09] <awal1> but thats another story, it depends on you DE/WM
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654 [04:29:07] <awal1> xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults if in X yet
655 [04:29:45] <awal1> xxrdb ~/.Xdefaults in your startup/autostart file if using a window manager
656 [04:30:32] <awal1> if gnome, kde...add that command to apps started at login. check the DE system settings
657 [04:30:53] <snfgf> maybe the font after XTerm*font:, needs to have a format like -*-*-Something-*-17-*, that sort of thing?
658 [04:31:11] <awal1> maybe
659 [04:31:18] <awal1> I dont use xterm so much
660 [04:31:28] <awal1> just agve you pistes
661 [04:31:55] <awal1> ok, Mr snfgf, I'm off now; movie relax time :)
662 [04:32:08] <snfgf> thank you for the help :)
663 [04:32:13] <monoxane> *monolog intensifies*
664 [04:32:27] <wsky> ok, this has to be said, Debian gets the job done
665 [04:33:02] <awal1> :) :D
666 [04:33:45] <wsky> i've spent last 120 minutes on scripting, graphics and editing few sorts of data, all in my cozy Jessie environment
667 [04:33:46] <awal1> monoxane, instead of criticising, you may try to help ...
668 [04:35:00] <monoxane> I can't help, I'm not exactly a power user
669 [04:35:15] <awal1> so, s***p
670 [04:35:18] <wsky> power users exist only in windows
671 [04:35:29] <awal1> I got a lot of hep from debian users here
672 [04:35:36] <awal1> I try to help as I can
673 [04:35:42] <awal1> I know the guy is lost...
674 [04:36:08] <wsky> on linux, we call that admins
675 [04:37:40] <wsky> funny, chroimius still haven't fixed it's bugs
676 [04:37:57] <wsky> it's around 2 months since the latest chromium stable release?
677 [04:38:15] <monoxane> Yup
678 [04:38:35] <wsky> they can't get their stuff together
679 [04:38:47] <wsky> the main reasone i've switched back to firefox
680 [04:38:50] <monoxane> I spent 5 hours yesterday trying to actually sign into chromium and the support chans wouldn't help me
681 [04:38:52] <wsky> reson*
682 [04:39:00] <wsky> reason*
683 [04:39:07] <wsky> well in my case it's the site rendering issue
684 [04:39:20] <wsky> content blinks while hovering the pointer over a link
685 [04:39:38] <wsky> make the browsing at least annoying
686 [04:39:50] <wsky> and basically impossible in the long run
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688 [04:40:45] <wsky> and poppler and ImageMagick are true blessings from the great cow
689 [04:41:16] <wsky> you can do wonders with them and a bit of bash
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691 [04:41:58] <wsky> if not that i'd be brainlessly clicking in gimp for the last 2 hours and it still would not be done
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693 [04:43:33] <wsky> !coffee all
694 [04:43:33] * dpkg decants a fine mug of hippy-blend International Roast Caterers Blend for all, courtesy of wsky
695 [04:44:18] <badcam> Hi there. Virtualbox Debian Jessie, Windows XP guest. Can't get bridged Adaptor to stay persistent. Used to use Mint 13. Are ifconfig & tunctl no longer the way to set a bridge up?
696 [04:44:39] <wsky> proposes Stevies Ray Vaughan's "Pride and Joy" to be the officiall Debian anthem
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698 [04:47:09] <badcam> I've set up 10.0.1.1 on Host and 10.0.1.2 on Guest. They work, but won't stay persistent. If I run ifconfig tap0 10.0.1.1 as Root, the it'll start working again. BUt if I restart VB I lose it again. I've tried setting tap0 in rc.local and network/interfaces
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705 [04:51:08] <radio_nowhere> Is anyone running systemd 230 from backports? Any compelling reasons to upgrade?
706 [04:52:39] <badcam> I used to follow these instructions for Mint 13 and they worked every time. How is Debian different please? replaced-url
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780 [06:03:16] <hanasaki> how can a system be reset to just the base packages from netinstall?
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782 [06:04:31] <themill> hanasaki: that's not actually a well defined set of packages, btw
783 [06:04:33] <themill> !uninstall everything
784 [06:04:33] <dpkg> To uninstall just about every package from your machine except the ones in the "standard" install, try something like: "aptitude purge ~i ~pstandard+ ~prequired+ ~pimportant+". Add additional packages with a + or : after them to the end to stop them being removed. Look *carefully* at what aptitude is planning to do to make sure you agree. Ask me about <aptitude docs>.
785 [06:05:20] <themill> Note that your system will not be bootable after that.
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789 [06:08:13] <Guest93662> i installed debian 8.5 amd64 in one network and everithing worked fine. I moved it in a nother network and i have no name resolution i modified /etc/resolv.conf but the settings get erased i have another computer that i installed debian in the nwe network and it works fine can someone help for the name resution on the first computer (so i can ping google.com insteadof an ip addr)
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792 [06:09:52] <hanasaki> thank you
793 [06:10:18] <hanasaki> so I had a netinstall minimal and did dpkg --get-selections > file
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796 [06:11:00] <hanasaki> then on the other box dpkg --set-selections < file followed by aptitude upgrade however it did not uninstall all the extra pacakges. why not
797 [06:11:32] <Rusty1_> Guest93662: unable to resolve lan hostnames or wan?
798 [06:11:59] <Guest93662> 1
799 [06:12:05] <Guest93662> wan
800 [06:13:18] <themill> hanasaki: look at your file of selections -- it does not include instructions to remove packages
801 [06:13:24] <Rusty1_> post resolv.conf on a paste site , dpaste.com for example
802 [06:13:26] <Guest93662> i can ping 8.8.8.8(or any other wan ip addr
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804 [06:14:25] <Guest93662> resolve.conf is empty and try to fill it with the rightneme servers it gets erased
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815 [06:20:53] <themill> Guest93662: are you using dhcp on both networks?
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821 [06:30:02] <hanasaki> themill: thank you. how can all the packages not listed be removed?
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833 [06:40:17] <themill> hanasaki: I guess you could hack about with comm and sed to achieve that
834 [06:40:26] <emiliow7> hey guy - sorry I was few minutes ago in here asking why resolv.conf is emptied in debian even after I populate it with the right nameservers ?
835 [06:40:44] <themill> emiliow7: are you using dhcp on both networks?
836 [06:41:16] <emiliow7> themill: I am connected to comcast modem/router
837 [06:41:22] <emiliow7> dhcp both
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841 [06:41:42] <themill> so it sounds like your dhcp server is sending unhelpful dns servers
842 [06:41:45] <emiliow7> I tried to add manually resolv.conf but it is weird the content gets teletit
843 [06:42:30] <themill> What is actually in /etc/resolv.conf after that happens?
844 [06:42:39] <emiliow7> themill: but the new installation of debian (in other computer) i the same network (hence the same dhcp server) works, is just the computer I moved from another location that does not get DNS
845 [06:43:19] <emiliow7> themill: completely empty - even if as root I edit it - I save but when I get out - the content gets deleted
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850 [06:43:59] <themill> not even any comments?
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852 [06:44:36] <emiliow7> themill: no - usually it would say setup by network manager - I tried to configure the network cards
853 [06:44:51] <emiliow7> both through /etc/network/interfaces and network manager
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855 [06:46:14] <themill> doing both is unlikely to be helpful
856 [06:46:44] <themill> Pick the method you actually want to use and then stick with that
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880 [07:14:16] <dfka> How to make new partitions from existing system? I have two partitions /dev/sda1 --root, and /dev/sda2 --home and now I want to dual boot gento and debian, how do i partition? I want to make two more partitions 20GB - 20 GB
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885 [07:19:23] <cvr> dfka: do you have any unpartitioned space on the disk?
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906 [07:51:39] <han-solo> how to know if the notification-daemon has started or not?
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908 [07:51:55] <han-solo> service --status-all
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915 [07:56:54] <jmcnaught> han-solo: notification-daemon is a part of GNOME, it wouldn't be started at boot like system services
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917 [07:57:52] <han-solo> yeah, so i have to do /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon?
918 [07:57:54] <han-solo> everytime? :/
919 [07:59:14] <jmcnaught> i don't know enough about GNOME internals to know if/when it's supposed to run. it has a file in /etc/xdg/autostart. I don't seem to be missing any notifications, are you missing them?
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921 [08:00:14] <han-solo> i'm not missing anything,
922 [08:00:58] <han-solo> and everyone is saying i have to change the NoDisplay=false; and change other two lines
923 [08:01:31] <han-solo> can you send notifications from cli without any problem? :/
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926 [08:02:09] <jmcnaught> han-solo: i don't know i've never tried. what are you trying to do that you're haivng a problem with?
927 [08:02:31] <han-solo> i'm trying to use the "notify-send"
928 [08:02:32] <han-solo> to send notifications to desktop
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934 [08:04:57] <jmcnaught> so what command do you use? what happens?
935 [08:05:34] <han-solo> i installed libnotify which provide the notify-send
936 [08:05:42] <han-solo> i use notify-send "hello world"
937 [08:05:46] <han-solo> and nothing happens
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940 [08:06:00] <papapiha> I want to do 4 boot, I am going with this partitioning scheme (104GB /dev/sda1 extended --> 4G /dev/sda2(swap), 20GB -- roots (/dev/sda3, /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6)) and rest with primary partition for /home. would this work?
941 [08:06:08] <han-solo> maybe it have something to do with dbus?
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945 [08:06:41] <han-solo> gonna try to reinstall
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948 [08:07:32] <jmcnaught> reinstalling stuff on Debian usually doesn't change anything. for some packages dpkg-reconfigure can be helpful, probably not for desktop libraries though
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950 [08:08:25] <han-solo> yeah
951 [08:08:31] <han-solo> still nothing
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954 [08:09:21] <jmcnaught> han-solo: i notice that i don't even have libnotify-bin installed, so it doesn't look like GNOME on Debian depends on it anymore. I do have libnotify4 installed, that's it
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957 [08:10:33] <han-solo> and notify-send works?
958 [08:11:09] <jmcnaught> han-solo: no, notify-send is in the libnotify-bin package, which i don't have.
959 [08:11:21] <han-solo> okay
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964 [08:12:25] <han-solo> so how do you send the notification to desktop? :/
965 [08:12:42] <jmcnaught> han-solo: maybe GNOME 3 only used the newer libnotify4 version of the library that doesn't work with libnotify-bin, i don't know much about how desktop notification works. I imagine the replaced-url
966 [08:13:04] <han-solo> btw, i can't see anything below (the bottom tab, if it exist), 'cos my monitor is messed up(short circuit, got it)
967 [08:13:51] <jmcnaught> han-solo: i have no idea which bottom tab you're talking about
968 [08:13:52] <han-solo> okay. THnaks
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971 [08:13:58] <Dancus> msg NickServ SET CLOAK ON
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976 [08:14:53] <han-solo> you know, the tab thing (a tab where you pin your frequently use apps), like in the windows
977 [08:15:09] <han-solo> i don't know if it's there
978 [08:15:29] <han-solo> tereaflops said something about it, i don't know
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983 [08:17:54] <jmcnaught> han-solo: in gnome-shell's activities overview there is a bar on the left edge of the screen called the dash which has icons for favourite and currently running programs. is that what you mean?
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988 [08:19:26] <han-solo> not precisely
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990 [08:19:48] <han-solo> you know, at the bottom
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992 [08:21:12] <han-solo> well, thanks jmcnaught
993 [08:21:34] <han-solo> apparently, there's a pop bar at the bottom of the desktop
994 [08:21:53] <han-solo> and the notifications are there
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999 [08:23:12] <popdisk_> anyone here?
1000 [08:23:18] <han-solo> i couldn't see it because, te hbottom of my monitor is kinda in a grey color now, because of the short circuit
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1002 [08:23:41] <han-solo> i wish i could get you an image, sorry
1003 [08:24:20] <popdisk_> My machine couldn't shutdown or reboot completely,any idea?
1004 [08:25:21] <wsky> see what stage is it hanging at
1005 [08:25:24] <jmcnaught> popdisk_: look at the logs for the shutdown or reboot
1006 [08:27:11] <han-solo> jmcnaught: btw, the notify-send is working. You can try it
1007 [08:27:33] <jmcnaught> han-solo: cool but thanks i'm good
1008 [08:27:39] <han-solo> yeah
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1014 [08:31:07] <hoijui> i am on trisquel linux 7 (32bit), and want t install a package from a 3rd party repo: linux-libre32
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1016 [08:31:45] <hoijui> when i try to do that, it fails because of "missing dependency freesh-keyring:i386"
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1019 [08:32:09] <hoijui> there is a package freesh-keyring (wiht archtecture all)
1020 [08:32:16] <hoijui> i manually installed it
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1023 [08:33:14] <hoijui> but somehow the dependency on freesh-keyring gets translated to freesh-keyring:i386, and then does not accept freesh-keyring(:all)
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1025 [08:33:40] <hoijui> and because freesh-keyring:i386 does not exist, dependency resolving algo fails..
1026 [08:33:47] <hoijui> what can be the reason?
1027 [08:33:58] <popdisk_> I checked the log and found that debian killed some of services while network and power still running
1028 [08:34:04] <hoijui> (btw, same scenaio works on trisquel 65bit)
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1030 [08:34:17] <hoijui> scenario*
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1033 [08:35:18] <popdisk_> "shutdown -h now" or "reboot" is useless and i had to use "halt -p" or "poweroff" to turn it down
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1037 [08:37:55] <jmcnaught> popdisk_: oh yes, systemd distinguishes between halt and poweroff. they do the same thing in sysvinit
1038 [08:38:26] <jmcnaught> !trisquel
1039 [08:38:26] <dpkg> Trisquel is a Spanish distribution initially based on Debian, now Ubuntu. It is not supported in #debian. replaced-url
1040 [08:38:32] <jmcnaught> hoijui: ^^
1041 [08:40:05] <hoijui> jmcnaught, k ;)
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1072 [09:09:54] <maziar> i use rm -rf * in /tmp/ , now i want to undo my job, i mean recover all file in /tmp/ how should i do it ?
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1074 [09:11:36] <Amun_Ra> in general - you can't
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1076 [09:12:26] <BenNZ> maziar: you dont need to clean /tmp that is done automatically
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1079 [09:13:08] <maziar> BenNZ i remove all file in /tmp via "rm -rf *" is it posible to restore that files ?
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1081 [09:13:42] <BenNZ> maziar: not easily , if you wanted them why did you remove them ?
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1084 [09:15:13] <BenNZ> maziar: replaced-url
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1104 [09:32:52] <vahe> hi free people! :) how to open .exe as archive ?
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1111 [09:39:56] <vahe> how to open .exe as archive ?
1112 [09:40:33] <musca> 7z can do it.
1113 [09:41:25] <OtakuSenpai> p7zip
1114 [09:41:55] <OtakuSenpai> something like tht...the name of the terminal program
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1117 [09:42:20] <vahe> musca: OtakuSenpai thanks :)
1118 [09:42:36] <musca> hmm, p7zip-rar is needed replaced-url
1119 [09:42:37] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1121 [09:42:59] <OtakuSenpai> cool :D
1122 [09:44:22] <musca> jidanni is an experienced bughunter
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1127 [09:46:20] <vahe> p7zip -d ?
1128 [09:46:50] <vahe> musca: p7zip -d /home/file.exe?
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1132 [09:49:43] <OtakuSenpai> man p7zip :)
1133 [09:49:49] <vahe> ah :D
1134 [09:49:51] <vahe> thanks
1135 [09:50:00] <vahe> :P
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1137 [09:50:06] <OtakuSenpai> yeah its in the repos iirc
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1140 [09:54:02] <han-solo> !ncurses
1141 [09:54:02] <dpkg> i guess ncurses is a free clone of curses, a library for the management of in- and output for character-cell based terminals and terminal emulators. If you want to install ncurses, you most likely want to: aptitude install libncurses5-dev
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1183 [10:25:58] <Oslo> I have a problem: dpkg -V does not report that the symlink of a package has changed
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1270 [11:27:41] <aIrWoLf_hit> !welcome
1271 [11:27:42] <dpkg> Thank you, airwolf_hit.
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1296 [11:50:15] <al_nz1> Hi All
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1298 [11:50:48] <al_nz1> I am running Debian as a VM in VBOX. WHen I installed the guest addons I no longer get the GUI (GDM3) just a CLI login
1299 [11:50:58] <al_nz1> nothing sticks out on syslog
1300 [11:51:03] <al_nz1> where else should I look
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1330 [12:09:19] <_aeris_> Hello debian !
1331 [12:09:34] <_aeris_> what’s the policy about upstream bug report forward ?
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1333 [12:09:51] <_aeris_> if i open a bug on debian bt, should i report it upstream too ?
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1335 [12:10:19] <missmbob> _aeris_: replaced-url
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1337 [12:10:40] <musca> no, the maintainer will do it, if necessary
1338 [12:10:58] <_aeris_> ok, thanks :)
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1344 [12:15:16] <damo22> trying to upgrade jessie to stretch, i get hash sum mismatch when i update my package list
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1347 [12:16:26] <al_nz1> anyone here able to help me diag gdm3 not starting
1348 [12:16:33] <al_nz1> where to look for logs would be good
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1352 [12:17:38] <missmbob> al_nz1: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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1358 [12:20:40] <sn0wmonster> replaced-url
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1368 [12:25:09] <al_nz1> missmbob: thats had a good clue
1369 [12:25:15] <al_nz1> vboxvideo driver not loaded
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1371 [12:25:43] <missmbob> al_nz1: did you install your kernel headers?
1372 [12:26:17] <missmbob> al_nz1: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` (in the client)
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1375 [12:28:06] <al_nz1> sure did
1376 [12:28:15] <al_nz1> just reran the command and its all up to date
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1378 [12:30:11] <missmbob> al_nz1: what does dpkg -l virtualbox-guest-dkms say? in guest of course
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1384 [12:33:01] <al_nz1> missmbob: replaced-url
1385 [12:33:31] <missmbob> al_nz1: nevermind
1386 [12:33:32] <missmbob> !kali
1387 [12:33:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1388 [12:33:57] <al_nz1> missmbob: sigh
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1392 [12:34:58] <al_nz1> missmbob: did the guest dkms look ok tho?
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1396 [12:36:17] <missmbob> al_nz1: so far. we barely started looking at things. on debian this might work sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare && m-a update && m-a a-i virtualbox-guest
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1400 [12:39:02] <al_nz1> nah, it didnt complete all of that
1401 [12:39:22] <missmbob> al_nz1: add sudo to the last to. but otherwise ask #kali
1402 [12:39:24] <al_nz1> the problem lies in the Vbox graphics driving failing aye?
1403 [12:39:26] <missmbob> two*
1404 [12:40:05] <al_nz1> it says vbox guest source failed
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1407 [12:42:58] <al_nz1> and trying to start GDM3 flashins a message about vbox-add service failed
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1433 [12:58:04] <Tucker> hello
1434 [12:58:39] <Tucker> i got trouble booting into my debian i am always getting to the mergency console
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1436 [12:58:52] <Tucker> emergency console
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1438 [12:59:25] <jelly> can you make a screenshot and let people see the output before that happens?
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1440 [12:59:56] <Tucker> before there is ja start job for /dev/uuid.... is running with red jumping dots
1441 [13:00:13] <Tucker> is that the behavior if hdd could not be mounted?
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1443 [13:00:35] <jelly> it might be
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1445 [13:00:39] <Megaf> Hi all
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1447 [13:01:02] <Tucker> is the solution to remove that hdd from fstab?
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1449 [13:01:25] <Megaf> do we have a bot here that shows package information?
1450 [13:01:29] <jelly> Tucker, if you have a hdd in fstab that is not present any more, sure
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1452 [13:01:43] <jelly> !judd
1453 [13:01:44] <dpkg> judd is a window into the Ultimate Debian Database (ask me about <udd>). Judd can look up package, PCI ID and kernel config information. See replaced-url
1454 [13:01:51] <jelly> Megaf, ^^
1455 [13:02:13] <Tucker> ok is there a solution to config it to skip hdds not present anymore at boottime?
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1457 [13:02:26] <Tucker> i think it is caused by a usbhdd i plugged once before
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1464 [13:03:56] <jelly> Tucker, merely plugging and mounting would not add it to /etc/fstab, if it's present there, you had to do it manually
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1471 [13:07:10] <Tucker> thx jelly this solved the problem, yeah i mounted the disk by the disk-manager i think it has added it to fstab
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1474 [13:07:51] <afx_> Hello ! Where can I find the source code of default network tools of debian 8 . To be specific I am interested in traceroute gui and the way it parses traceroute output
1475 [13:08:37] <_aeris_> afx_ > what’s the executable filename ?
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1479 [13:09:31] <afx_> _aeris_, gnome-nettool
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1484 [13:11:19] <_aeris_> afx_ > replaced-url
1485 [13:11:32] <afx_> thank you very much _aeris_
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1500 [13:19:32] <rozie> hello. I'm after a bit messy and complicated upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie on my Dockstar (armel)
1501 [13:19:41] <rozie> everything is OK, but...
1502 [13:20:01] <rozie> wget stopped working. ldd /usr/bin/wget shows:
1503 [13:20:11] <rozie> libtasn1.so.3 => /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3 (0xb6bad000)
1504 [13:20:20] <rozie> there is no such file as /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3
1505 [13:21:04] <rozie> there is /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 instead, which is symlink
1506 [13:21:06] <rozie> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 -> libtasn1.so.6.3.2
1507 [13:21:55] <rozie> I created /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3 which is symlink to /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 and wget works now, but I wonder what went wrong and what is recommended way to fix this (without symlinkin)
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1523 [13:30:59] <nohair> hi.. how to rename file using terminal?
1524 [13:31:29] <rozie> man mv, man cp, man rename
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1528 [13:32:16] <nohair> thanks bang rojie
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1532 [13:34:13] <rozie> well, seems like reinstallation of wget fixed this
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1564 [13:52:42] <hassoon> d'oh
1565 [13:52:53] <hassoon> isn't the new flash plugin version included in the repositories
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1567 [13:54:11] <missmbob> jessie-backports has the same version as sid...so yeah.
1568 [13:54:27] <missmbob> assuming you're talking about browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
1569 [13:54:40] <hassoon> nah, i'm talking baout hte one for firefox
1570 [13:54:44] <hassoon> the *
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1572 [13:54:50] <missmbob> that is the one for firefox that you should be using
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1574 [13:54:59] <missmbob> replaced-url
1575 [13:55:02] <hassoon> isn't pepperflash for chromium ? :i
1576 [13:55:22] <missmbob> hassoon: it's a wrapper. read the link i just sent you
1577 [13:55:31] <hassoon> ok
1578 [13:55:31] <missmbob> hassoon: remove whatever else you have
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1583 [13:58:10] <hassoon> missmbob: i mean there has been this flashplugin-nonfree package that installs the adobe flash plugin for iceweasel/firefox, isn't it ?
1584 [13:58:23] <hassoon> so that confused me
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1586 [13:59:08] <missmbob> hassoon: there is. doesn't mean you should use it :P
1587 [13:59:11] <MaBunny> why could you need flash,hasoon?
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1589 [14:00:14] <Sector89> who needs flash these days? The major browsers are deprecating it anyway in the coming months.
1590 [14:00:22] <hassoon> MaBunny: to access flash content across the internet
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1592 [14:00:42] <MaBunny> youtube doesnt require flash these days
1593 [14:00:52] <MaBunny> and only some game sites need it
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1595 [14:01:06] <hassoon> youtube is not a major thing in my iternet usage
1596 [14:01:15] <missmbob> youtube isn't the end all of videos. news sites (cnn, whatever), national channels (fox, cbs, nbc, abc, etc) all require flash
1597 [14:01:16] <MaBunny> flash has major sec faults which could compromise your box
1598 [14:01:58] <hassoon> meh why is it widespread then
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1601 [14:02:09] <missmbob> because html5 didn't exist
1602 [14:02:17] <hassoon> ah wait
1603 [14:02:24] <hassoon> there is this html5 video player hting
1604 [14:02:32] <MaBunny> yeah
1605 [14:02:39] <MaBunny> head about it now?
1606 [14:02:43] <MaBunny> *heard
1607 [14:02:49] <hassoon> so can html5 make browser 3D games as good and smooth as flahs? :o
1608 [14:02:51] <hassoon> * flash
1609 [14:02:56] <MaBunny> yeah
1610 [14:02:56] <missmbob> yes
1611 [14:03:16] <MaBunny> so you want flash bcoz of browser games?
1612 [14:03:35] <hassoon> dunno it's widespread and required everywhere imo
1613 [14:03:51] <hassoon> not me who is demanding it
1614 [14:03:54] <MaBunny> no
1615 [14:04:00] <MaBunny> false
1616 [14:04:10] <hassoon> not convinced
1617 [14:04:11] <hassoon> :v
1618 [14:04:25] <MaBunny> i dont hav flash installed in my browser
1619 [14:04:34] <MaBunny> and i can surf majority of sites
1620 [14:04:48] <hassoon> and what you do to access their content
1621 [14:04:57] <hassoon> the gnu flash alternative ?
1622 [14:04:59] <MaBunny> (btw i dont waste my time palying online games)
1623 [14:05:06] <hassoon> the gnash
1624 [14:05:11] <MaBunny> no...no flash at all
1625 [14:05:17] <hassoon> yeah nor i do
1626 [14:05:22] <hassoon> * do i
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1636 [14:08:32] <TomTomTo1> i usually use google-chrome for all my nasty non-free needs. it has flash and those pesky drm features included.
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1638 [14:09:02] <mavhq> I disabled flash on my windows laptop, only notice about once a month
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1643 [14:10:05] <TomTomTosch> netflix and some other streaming sites rely on those, which is a shame.
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1645 [14:10:31] <MaBunny> thts why we hav bittorrents
1646 [14:10:44] <speedio> im about to move my root fs on my server to a ssd disk.. i have three partitions /boot, /boot/efi and / (+swap) . what type should i set /boot and /boot/efi partitions to when i create them in cfdisk?
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1648 [14:11:02] <e__> replaced-url
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1651 [14:11:16] <e__> Those instructions tell me to include something
1652 [14:11:23] <e__> and if supported, it'll include this line: alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
1653 [14:11:46] <e__> how would i include that in the module ath10k_pci?
1654 [14:12:27] <e__> wait
1655 [14:12:28] <e__> nvm
1656 [14:12:31] <e__> i read that wrong
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1660 [14:14:06] <e__> But why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*" for me?
1661 [14:14:19] <e__> pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
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1663 [14:14:24] <e__> It has that instead
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1665 [14:14:50] <e__> Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) is the card i have
1666 [14:14:58] <e__> in my laptop
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1668 [14:15:40] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: now you are telling me to use illegal torrents for security reasons? are you joking?
1669 [14:15:56] <MaBunny> no....its just tht
1670 [14:15:57] <hassoon> lewl
1671 [14:16:19] <MaBunny> i use it for my entertainment purposes,and its not illegal here
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1674 [14:16:45] <TomTomTosch> great. around here they crucify you for pirating stuff.
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1676 [14:16:57] <e__> My question is: Why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*, but it has pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* instead. Even though I have Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31)
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1678 [14:17:12] <MaBunny> lool
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1681 [14:17:43] <Sector89> TomTomTosch: I've heard the reason those sites still use Flash is because dinosaur license holders don't trust HTML5 yet for DRM. Because video streaming DRM does so much to stop pirates, lol.
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1683 [14:17:59] <TomTomTosch> exactly.
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1685 [14:18:09] <e__> and i meant modinfo ath10k_pci
1686 [14:18:35] <MaBunny> they can just take the video of their screens
1687 [14:18:53] <MaBunny> to pirate those Netflix movies,esp if their hardware is good
1688 [14:20:11] <Sector89> Recording the screen requires a 1:1 time ratio though. You can actually do better with virtual network interfaces and a little memory forensics ;)
1689 [14:20:24] <MaBunny> oh
1690 [14:21:13] <Sector89> DRM for video is pointless because you can't show someone something without showing them and as long as you show them, there's a way to pirate it.
1691 [14:21:21] <MaBunny> is the command to set the shutdown timer at 9pm like this: shutdown 21:00
1692 [14:21:34] <e__> Not trying to be rude, but did anyone get my question?
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1695 [14:21:52] <MaBunny> Sector89: i dont kno what a DRM is
1696 [14:22:07] <hassoon> !dpkg DRM
1697 [14:22:07] <dpkg> methinks drm is Direct Rendering Manager, a <DRI> component (replaced-url
1698 [14:22:44] <Sector89> let's go with the second one, lol.
1699 [14:22:46] <MaBunny> it would be the later
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1704 [14:23:17] <Sector89> Btw that's a pretty useful bot, lol.
1705 [14:23:26] <hassoon> Sure it is.
1706 [14:23:27] <MaBunny> e__: im not tht exp with kernel modules
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1709 [14:23:55] <Sector89> e__ what was your question? didn't catch it the first time around and I've done a little bit with LKMs.
1710 [14:24:11] <e__> My question is: Why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*, but it has pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* instead. Even though I have Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31)
1711 [14:24:19] <e__> *ath10k_pci
1712 [14:24:32] <Sector89> That's over my head, sorry.
1713 [14:24:41] <e__> I was reading this: replaced-url
1714 [14:24:47] <MaBunny> e__ : you can try your luck in ##linux
1715 [14:24:53] <e__> Alright thank you.
1716 [14:25:02] <hassoon> e__: what's with this strange nickname
1717 [14:25:05] <MaBunny> just a sugg
1718 [14:25:06] <hassoon> like..edward ?
1719 [14:25:06] <hassoon> :o
1720 [14:25:22] <MaBunny> or maybe someone here can help too
1721 [14:25:23] <e__> Just random, I thought this would be a quick fix.
1722 [14:25:30] <hassoon> okey
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1725 [14:26:02] <MaBunny> guys,now my turn :D
1726 [14:26:06] <e__> Im not verified so i cant speak on ##linux
1727 [14:26:10] <Incubus> Hi guys. I'm using debian 8 (stable) and I'm trying to setup dhcpd (from isc-dhcp-server package) but I can't find the service file in /lib/systemd/system/ so I can't enable it to start dhcpd at boot. Am I doing something wrong?
1728 [14:26:15] <MaBunny> is this correct: shutdown 21:00
1729 [14:26:31] <MaBunny> e__ : you hav to regi your name to speak there
1730 [14:26:36] <hassoon> MaBunny: what is that
1731 [14:26:38] <e__> yeah hold on
1732 [14:26:45] <MaBunny> with a password
1733 [14:26:58] <MaBunny> ./msg nickserv help register
1734 [14:27:02] <MaBunny> without the .
1735 [14:27:18] <e__> i know
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1737 [14:27:26] <e__> lol done this once or twice before
1738 [14:27:32] <MaBunny> ah
1739 [14:27:46] <epsilon> Incubus: did you check /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server ?
1740 [14:28:08] <hassoon> MaBunny: your command is correct according to hte man, so what ?
1741 [14:28:14] <hassoon> * the man
1742 [14:28:23] <Incubus> epsilon,: yes, if i start it manually, the service works fine. I just can't make it start at boot
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1745 [14:29:09] <Incubus> the difference i found compared to all other services, is a missing file in /lib/systemd/system/
1746 [14:29:15] <Sector89> Incubus: Try using service command. You should still have it even if you have systemd
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1748 [14:30:02] <Sector89> Specifically consult: replaced-url
1749 [14:30:21] <Incubus> sector: it says it should start at boot but it doesn0t ( [ + ] isc-dhcp-server)
1750 [14:30:45] <epsilon> Incubus: any errorlog?
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1752 [14:31:20] <epsilon> error message, like interface not ready yet
1753 [14:31:21] <Incubus> just rebooting the server to find out. When i checked yesterday i couldn't find anything but i was quite tired.
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1760 [14:32:53] <MaBunny> hassoon: i didnt understand your question
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1762 [14:33:08] <hassoon> MaBunny: look at you:
1763 [14:33:11] <hassoon> 13:26 < MaBunny> guys,now my turn :D
1764 [14:33:17] <hassoon> 13:27 < MaBunny> is this correct: shutdown 21:00
1765 [14:33:19] <hassoon> eof
1766 [14:33:33] <MaBunny> oh
1767 [14:34:11] <MaBunny> i was trying to ask you guys how to shutdown my box at a specified time...and hav figured it now
1768 [14:34:25] <Incubus> daemon.log is empty. journalctl says i have to configure an internet for the daemon to listen on (replaced-url
1769 [14:34:27] <hassoon> thanks to my answer? :v
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1771 [14:34:57] <rozie> MaBunny: you can even wake up box at specified time
1772 [14:35:09] <MaBunny> how rozie !
1773 [14:35:12] <MaBunny> tell me pls
1774 [14:36:00] <rozie> MaBunny: replaced-url
1775 [14:36:18] <rozie> (PL, but pretty obvious and google translate should be enough)
1776 [14:36:28] <MaBunny> ok
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1784 [14:38:16] <hassoon> do we mean by a 'box' a mere traditional computer ?
1785 [14:38:32] <hassoon> or the intel box-sized NUC computers? whats that ?
1786 [14:39:06] <MaBunny> box...as in cabinet\
1787 [14:39:22] <MaBunny> my computer
1788 [14:39:31] <hassoon> what ?
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1798 [14:44:29] <MaBunny> thnx rozie,ive bookmarked it
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1805 [14:50:27] <bldy_fool> Could anybody tell me what is `Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary` in fdisk -l? Everything is working fine but I wanna know what this mean.
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1807 [14:51:40] <e__> How would I switch to the testing repo?
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1809 [14:51:44] <e__> MaBunny
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1811 [14:52:00] <MaBunny> ask others
1812 [14:52:12] <MaBunny> im in the jessie main repo
1813 [14:52:18] <MaBunny> as i said
1814 [14:52:18] <e__> How would I switch to the testing repo (directed towards anyone)
1815 [14:52:26] <TomTomTosch> if you think that will fix your wifi problems you are out of luck.
1816 [14:52:41] <e__> Man, I liked this distro.
1817 [14:52:51] <e__> Really did
1818 [14:53:16] <e__> very stable
1819 [14:53:25] <MaBunny> TomTomTosch: couldnt changing to testing help?
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1821 [14:53:31] <TomTomTosch> nope
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1824 [14:54:15] <MaBunny> hmm
1825 [14:54:45] <TomTomTosch> e__: Debian isn't known for supporting latest hardware. but my guess is you will have similar problems with other distros.
1826 [14:55:01] <e__> I had success with ArchBang
1827 [14:55:03] <MaBunny> yeah
1828 [14:55:05] <e__> (well shortlived)
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1830 [14:55:11] <e__> but success nontheless
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1832 [14:55:25] <TomTomTosch> then use what works best for you.
1833 [14:55:25] <MaBunny> e__> A similar problem happened when I tried to install Lubuntu
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1874 [15:23:36] <MaBunny> is there a site which tells which motherboards are supported
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1877 [15:26:59] <mmp> MaBunny: probably not directly; I would suggest finding out a chipset which the motherboard uses and googling a little for users running linux on it
1878 [15:27:12] <MaBunny> ok
1879 [15:27:29] <mmp> or, if you are brave enough, try to see whether there's a driver in linux kernel source tree
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1881 [15:27:47] <MaBunny> noooo.
1882 [15:27:49] <MaBunny> ...
1883 [15:28:35] <mmp> or just try to google anyone having your mobo and running linux
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1885 [15:30:05] <mmp> a bottom line is that unless you have a too exotic motherboard pick, it's likely that it will work out of the box
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1888 [15:30:27] <MaBunny> no...my motherboard could be very cheap one
1889 [15:30:30] <MaBunny> \like
1890 [15:30:46] <MaBunny> $70
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1892 [15:31:19] <mmp> but there's still a small chance you might either need to use some kernel flags or there would be some thing not behaving properly (e.g. suspend and resume)
1893 [15:31:44] <MaBunny> ok
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1905 [15:36:34] <NewbAckup> Hi, I backed up a failing HDD with ddrescue to hdd.dd file. Now trying to fix/shrink the partition. I can use "fdisk -l hdd.dd" succesfully, but for fixing or shrinking online examples assume partition .dd's not device .dd's
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1907 [15:37:37] <NewbAckup> how can I use say ntfsfix on hdd.dd where the backup file is the whole device (i.e. boot sector & a single large ntfs partition)?
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1910 [15:39:07] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: Not an expert here , but can't you just mount the device using a loopback or something ?
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1912 [15:39:32] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: or in worst case stuff the image in a VM :)
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1914 [15:40:20] <NewbAckup> I was also thinking about loopback, I don't really understand exactly how it works, can I have losetup create a /dev/sdbeta from it?
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1916 [15:40:51] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: I have not used loopbacks much, if it was me I would feed a VM the file and play with it from there
1917 [15:40:52] <NewbAckup> not sure how the VM path would work?
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1920 [15:41:25] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: FIre up a virtual machine , feed it the disk file. From there you have a "real setup" and can play with it.
1921 [15:41:29] <NewbAckup> not sure if the VM would be able to boot from the file, since its from an oscilloscope
1922 [15:41:48] <Waxhead> Ah , did you not backup your harddrive?
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1925 [15:42:19] <Waxhead> Blerk... shoot me. the HD belongs to a oscilloscope! - ok got it :)
1926 [15:42:37] <NewbAckup> the intent is not recovering personal files, but loading the backup on a new HDD (which is slightly smaller 32GB instead of 40, but I know the disk was hardly full at all)
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1930 [15:43:58] <NewbAckup> if possible I would prefer to fix any ntfs problems on this modern computer before letting the 2000 era computer in the oscilloscope trying to fix the disc
1931 [15:44:09] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: You know what. I had a chat with google - perhaps this will help you replaced-url
1932 [15:44:11] <NewbAckup> if there are any significant problems (perhaps none)
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1937 [15:45:37] <NewbAckup> Waxhead: perfect, could you tell me what search terms you used?
1938 [15:46:01] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: "shrink partition image file linux" :)
1939 [15:46:18] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: Google can be quite helpful sometimes.... duckduckgo is not bad either :)
1940 [15:46:46] <NewbAckup> I was using duckduckgo, but I was prematurely optimizing the search with losetup etc
1941 [15:47:04] <NewbAckup> thanks this should solve my problems!
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1945 [15:48:26] <woshty> NewbAckup: kpartx
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1948 [15:49:26] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: Just glad to help. No problem :)
1949 [15:50:31] <NewbAckup> woshty: I came across kpartx on an answered resizing question, but it assumed a partition image (instead of device)
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1965 [16:02:28] <han-solo> what does alt+f2 do?
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1969 [16:03:09] <Waxhead> han-solo: nothing unless you press them.
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1977 [16:05:15] <NewbAckup> sadly, ntfsresize tells me I need to run chkdisk /f before resizing...
1978 [16:05:22] <han-solo> yeah, what do it do? whe ni press it with a command? exec it?
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1981 [16:06:06] <Waxhead> han-solo: :) you need to supply more info. Alt+f2 will in XFCE open the application finder. How it is in your desktop environment I have no idea.
1982 [16:06:25] <han-solo> gnome-classic
1983 [16:06:52] <Waxhead> han-solo: then look up keyboard shortcuts in gnome :)
1984 [16:07:02] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: can't you run fsck.ntfs on the partition ? I supposed you manage to mount the partition.
1985 [16:07:04] <han-solo> yeah,
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1987 [16:07:10] <cryptic> well, here goes my sunday
1988 [16:07:43] <NewbAckup> Waxhead: ok, ill try that, give me some minutes to read fsck.ntfs manpage
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1990 [16:07:57] <han-solo> it shows the run command prompt
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1992 [16:08:19] <cryptic> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wasn't the best decision of last night
1993 [16:08:37] <Waxhead> NewbAckup: Well, sorry gotta run.... however here at #debian you will hopefully meet friendly people who will help you out. Good luck and cheers :)
1994 [16:09:02] <r0ck_> good luck1
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1997 [16:09:36] <NewbAckup> thanks Waxhead
1998 [16:10:00] <jelly> NewbAckup, if the ntfs* tools tell you to check the filesystem using native (windows) tools, then do that
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2000 [16:10:42] <NewbAckup> jelly: but the backup image is a .dd file?
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2003 [16:11:36] <jelly> yeah, that's going to be interesting, then. I suspect you many have to dump the contents back onto a partition, plug that disk into a windows system, do the check
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2005 [16:12:27] <NewbAckup> jelly: yes, but the fresh (non-failing) HDD is 32GB instead of 40GB which is why I wanted to resize..
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2008 [16:13:25] <NewbAckup> the ddrescue recovery gave 0 errors though, but it was very slow (80kB/s most of the time)
2009 [16:13:27] <jelly> find a larger disk to do the temporary dump and check there
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2011 [16:14:23] <NewbAckup> jelly: should I expect chkdsk to be present on "Windows 2000 professional embedded" or on some floppy image?
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2013 [16:14:40] <NewbAckup> jelly, now I am thinking about running a chkdsk image in a VM
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2015 [16:15:54] <jelly> NewbAckup, I'd strongly suggest avoiding using a chkdsk older than the windows OS that last used that filesystem
2016 [16:16:22] <jelly> sure, windows in a VM is an option
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2018 [16:16:59] <NewbAckup> jelly: yes good point about using a more recent chkdsk, I was thinking about a DOS chkdsk image instead of full windows in VM
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2020 [16:18:20] <stoned> I think UBCD has a version recent enough on it for ntfs chkdsk
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2022 [16:18:43] <stoned> Nevermind that ubcd4win
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2027 [16:20:40] <NewbAckup> jelly: ah probably I can just use the HDD OS's safe mode in the VM
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2116 [17:09:22] <mernilio> Greetings! :-)
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2119 [17:10:41] <mernilio> I just made an accoutnt on slashdot with my nickname. You know, soon the world will know what i know! :-)
2120 [17:11:21] <mernilio> And i feel like a little girl writhing this ....... :-P
2121 [17:12:35] <mernilio> Noway, it will be full disclouser, no holes bared. Now, its only no hole barred! <--- and ... cut!
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2127 [17:15:01] <mernilio> Oh, btw.. is debian logo red and white? .. on my free time i make bird houses. Maybe i can make some good stuff there... ?
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2135 [17:16:42] <mtn> mernilio: there are off-topic channels if you are just looking for a chat and not support
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2138 [17:17:16] <mtn> mernilio: from the topic of this channel: offtopic: #debian-offtopic
2139 [17:17:46] <mernilio> mtn: thanks for the tip!
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2145 [17:26:30] <iamawesome> Hi, replaced-url
2146 [17:27:06] <docmur> I'm trying to use DKMS to install a module, I'm running kernel 4.5.0, I have the header package installed at /usr/src/linux-headers-4.5.0 and /lib/module/4.5.0, but I'm getting Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 4.5.0 cannot be found. from DKMS, I've tried --kernelsourcedir to set the location but it doesn't like either location
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2150 [17:28:12] <iamawesome> I've intel processor
2151 [17:28:30] <iamawesome> It supports 64 bit operating system.
2152 [17:28:34] <Putti> iamawesome, amd64
2153 [17:29:06] <iamawesome> I don't have amd processor.
2154 [17:29:07] <iamawesome> Putti: ^
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2156 [17:29:25] <maurer> iamawesome: amd64 is the name for the architecture, just like an amd 32 bit processor is still i686
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2158 [17:29:35] <maurer> iamawesome: It's just a matter of which company released one first
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2160 [17:30:29] <iamawesome> Normally i download from here: replaced-url
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2162 [17:30:43] <iamawesome> But now i intend to install 64 bit debian
2163 [17:31:08] <maurer> Then you want replaced-url
2164 [17:31:52] <iamawesome> debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso why is it named amd?
2165 [17:32:07] <iamawesome> I've intel processor, not amd
2166 [17:32:13] <maurer> because amd was the first company to release a 64-bit cpu
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2168 [17:32:38] <iamawesome> But i think, intel has also 64 bit processor.
2169 [17:32:40] <maurer> Yes, and I'm telling you, calling it amd64 is just a nomenclature thing
2170 [17:32:50] <jmcnaught> !amd64
2171 [17:32:50] <dpkg> amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>.
2172 [17:32:51] <maurer> the intel 64-bit processor is still built with as "amd64"
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2175 [17:33:43] <iamawesome> debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso , will it support intel pentium D/4 64 bit processor?
2176 [17:33:48] <hexnewbie> iamawesome: The x86-64 architecture was developed and introduced by AMD, and Intel later adopted it. At first, GNU/Linux distros called it amd64 to distinguish from ia64 (Itanic^WItanium), but the name stuck even after Intel started using it.
2177 [17:34:08] <hexnewbie> iamawesome: Yes.
2178 [17:34:37] <Zliba> alright, on one system, when I type "man cups", I get the man page. On the other system, I type "man cups" and I get nothing. what the hell? cups is installed on both. both are debian jessie
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2182 [17:35:45] <iamawesome> Zliba: dpkg -l | grep cups , compare the outputs on both system
2183 [17:35:57] <iamawesome> Zliba: aptitude search cups
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2188 [17:39:47] <goldkatze> Hi
2189 [17:40:26] <goldkatze> Anyone around using Chromium 52 as packaged in testing/unstable, who can confirm extentions working with said build? As in, am I having a local issue, or is it a Debian bug?
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2193 [17:43:21] <missmbob> goldkatze: you should ask the testing/sid channel about that.
2194 [17:44:02] <goldkatze> missmbob: Already done, noticed a moment too late; excuse me, please
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2196 [17:44:28] <goldkatze> :)
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2248 [18:18:07] <eSa|> I cannot get into oftc, why?
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2252 [18:20:00] <han-solo> i don't have any problem
2253 [18:20:10] <han-solo> irc.oftc.net?
2254 [18:20:16] <eSa|> yes
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2257 [18:21:03] <eSa|> I have a SASL script running, maybe it's the cause?
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2261 [18:22:14] <missmbob> last i checked we're not psychics. you haven't said what the error is or what actually happens. how could we possibly know what's goign on with you? but yes, troubleshooting it yourself is good. try getting rid of whatever scripts you're using
2262 [18:22:20] <han-solo> it seems fine and alive
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2264 [18:23:35] <eSa|> i've unchecked Use SSL servers
2265 [18:23:44] <eSa|> now it's fine
2266 [18:24:42] <awal1> eSa| which irc client you run?
2267 [18:24:56] <eSa|> xchat
2268 [18:25:10] <awal1> xchat is dead
2269 [18:25:25] <awal1> like 10 years not developed
2270 [18:26:00] <awal1> hexchat is the fork and up-to-date
2271 [18:27:33] <awal1> I guess you can use ssl without issues with oftc; but be sure to enable accper non signed certificates or something like that
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2273 [18:27:44] <awal1> accept ^
2274 [18:27:57] <awal1> no extra script needed
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2277 [18:28:40] <awal1> that works for me (hexchat); xchat should have similar feature
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2283 [18:29:48] <awal1> be sure ^not; also enable non signed if use ssl everywhere doesn't work ^
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2288 [18:33:03] <eSa|> need to 400mo of updates, I will stay with xchat for the moment
2289 [18:33:24] <OS21361> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 100030232
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2292 [18:33:59] <awal1> 400 ?
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2295 [18:35:20] <tortib> I just got my 802.11AC wireless router and it says it's supposed to use 2.4GHz and 5Ghz to get a combined speed of about 800Mbps. I have a 1x1 Wifi card in my laptop how can I get it to connect at those speeds?
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2298 [18:35:40] <tortib> right now it's only connecting at 2.4Ghz, i have to disable 2.4GHz on the router to have it connect at 5GHz and it only gets 433Mbps.
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2305 [18:39:23] <awal1> apt-cache show hexchat | grep Installed-Size ---» Installed-Size: 917
2306 [18:40:16] <awal1> kb, of course
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2331 [18:50:01] <eSa|> yes, but I've got outdated libraries and stuff. You may check replaced-url
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2340 [18:53:34] <ma__rc> guys, today i upgraded from jessie to stretch… now i'm wondering if it'd be better to run sid. you know, breakage gets fixed quicker and stuff. any ideas/experience?
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2342 [18:54:16] <awal1> eSa|, if your system is up-to-date you should get a similar size replaced-url
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2347 [18:55:28] <missmbob> he's not on jessie
2348 [18:55:32] <missmbob> so...yeah.
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2350 [18:56:09] <missmbob> he's got a bastardized wheezy/jessie monster
2351 [18:56:42] <awal1> thats what I deduce in his output, yeah :D
2352 [18:56:48] <Flippylosaurus> <Flippylosaurus> Hey there. I'm creating a new pgpkey as a replacement to 0x20EBC59A. I've got a checklist, which includes re-encrypting my passwordstore.org storage. Basically they are .gpg files containing non-ASCII armored PGP encrypted data which can be decoded by my PGP key.
2353 [18:56:48] <Flippylosaurus> <Flippylosaurus> The software does not offer a way to change all passwords.
2354 [18:56:48] <Flippylosaurus> <Flippylosaurus> Is there any way to do this?
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2356 [18:58:46] <awal1> eSa|, you may consider dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie
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2363 [19:01:23] <eSa|> thanks awal1, I'm also pondering a non working EWS88MT sound board that used to play fine. Alsa ignores it completely
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2366 [19:02:36] <soulisson> Can anyone help me, I'm running a flavor of Debian (Kali) and I need to install mibs for snmp, I installed manually mibs-downloader but when I run the tool, I get the following error: gzip: /tmp/tmp.M0TpXPrVRZ/rfc5834.txt: unknown suffix -- ignored, any help would be greatly appreciated
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2368 [19:02:47] <missmbob> !kali
2369 [19:02:47] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2370 [19:03:43] <piezoid> Hi! I have a problem with apt v1.3~pre2 on sid :
2371 [19:03:51] <piezoid> apt-get update fails with «Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'» but I can ping(6) and "getent hosts" the mirror fine
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2373 [19:03:57] <missmbob> piezoid: try the sid channel
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2380 [19:05:49] <kalken> hello! i have a setup with dropbear ssh in grub (for encrypted disks at boot). But this temp ip survives the whole boot process. Is it possible to "deconfigure" the interface before /etc/network/interfaces is setup?
2381 [19:06:14] <awal1> eSa|, run apt-get update as root, the as normal user (for avoid any mistake) run apt-get -s dist-upgrade. You will see if is will be fine switshing from wheezy to jessie completely
2382 [19:06:22] <awal1> then as ^
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2384 [19:06:55] <piezoid> missmbob: Ok, what is the name of the channel ? I can't find it with /list
2385 [19:07:13] <missmbob> piezoid: it's in the /topic. #debian-next on oftc (not freenode)
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2390 [19:07:43] <missmbob> awal1: eSa| not really. he's running apache 2.2. upgrading to jessie will break that pretty badly. good times
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2393 [19:08:06] <awal1> missbob, ok
2394 [19:08:13] <missmbob> awal1: eSa| anyway it's in the upgrade notes what to do about apache.
2395 [19:09:02] <piezoid> missmbob: ok thanks
2396 [19:09:07] <eSa|> I see
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2399 [19:11:34] <eSa|> I've got a grub boot loader but I cannot see kernel choices. Was there a key to unhide the menu?
2400 [19:11:51] <nyuszika7h> hold Shit
2401 [19:11:52] <nyuszika7h> *Shift
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2403 [19:12:48] <eSa|> easy
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2417 [19:22:10] <eSa|> now I'm focusing on getting a EWS88MT Soundcard properly recognized by alsa. I played happily on this setup before unplugging it one about a year ago
2418 [19:22:58] <eSa|> but alsa refuses to see it, weird
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2427 [19:25:39] <awal1> eSa|, /etc/gdefault/grub and change the line GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 change 0 to X number
2428 [19:25:56] <awal1> ^/ETC/DEFAULT/GRUB
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2435 [19:30:25] <elliot007> Hey
2436 [19:30:53] <elliot007> everyone
2437 [19:31:46] <debidi> elliot007: sup
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2440 [19:32:57] <elliot007> actually just installed fresh Jessie but my ethernet connection is pissing me off
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2442 [19:33:18] <elliot007> I don't have wireless-tools installed so can't use wifi what should i do??
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2447 [19:35:00] <fff> When will wayland replace xorg?
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2451 [19:36:28] <mtn> fff: let me consult my crystal ball for a moment
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2454 [19:37:21] <missmbob> fff: it still sucks on stretch. so...
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2457 [19:37:39] <elliot007> mtn: hey I know you from Manjaro
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2459 [19:37:57] <mtn> elliot007: oh oh ;)
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2462 [19:38:23] <elliot007> cool right?
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2464 [19:39:38] <awal1> elliot007, "pissing you off" how?
2465 [19:40:43] <elliot007> awal1: well i wanna set it up but i'm not able to connect to internet so
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2467 [19:41:15] <_abc_> Hello. I have a parport0 in dmesg on wheezy but the device in /dev/ does not exist. What is the procedure to make it appear please?
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2471 [19:41:37] <awal1> elliot007, how you installed debian? dvd iso I guess so?
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2473 [19:41:50] <elliot007> yep
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2476 [19:43:06] <_abc_> lsmod|grep par shows parport_pc etc loaded
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2478 [19:43:28] <ma__rc> guys, how to disable the system beep? e.g. when hitting backspace when there's nothing to delete
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2480 [19:43:51] <awal1> elliot007, output of ip link show
2481 [19:44:02] <mtn> ma__rc: which desktop are you using if any?
2482 [19:44:06] <ma__rc> xfce
2483 [19:44:29] <mtn> ma__rc: can you turn off system sounds in system settings/ sound?
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2485 [19:44:37] <teraflops> ma__rc: mute it with alsamixer
2486 [19:44:43] <ma__rc> let me check
2487 [19:45:18] <missmbob> ma__rc: did you try google? replaced-url
2488 [19:45:28] <elliot007> awal1: well I'm actually on chromium os right now so
2489 [19:45:36] <missmbob> ma__rc: or replaced-url
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2492 [19:46:13] <awal1> elliot007, that's not debian so...
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2494 [19:46:46] <awal1> or I dont understand you
2495 [19:47:08] <ma__rc> "xset b off" worked
2496 [19:47:10] <ma__rc> thx
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2499 [19:47:30] <mtn> elliot007: only debian is supported in this channel
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2501 [19:47:47] <awal1> he said he installed jessie
2502 [19:47:48] <elliot007> actually I wanna tell that I'm on chromium not on Debian
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2504 [19:48:13] <awal1> so why you said you installed jessie?
2505 [19:48:18] <missmbob> it is sunday. why not?
2506 [19:48:34] <teraflops> ma__rc: I like the audible bell under xorg; )
2507 [19:48:47] <elliot007> awal1: because I actually installed jessie but like no internet so I booted chromium from usb stick
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2509 [19:49:35] <unborn> :D
2510 [19:50:23] <elliot007> awal1: ip link is not showing wlan interface just eth0 and lo
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2512 [19:50:56] <kalken> elliot007: you might need closed drivers for wlan
2513 [19:51:17] <elliot007> yeh but no internet so how can i install them??
2514 [19:51:24] <kalken> plug in a cable
2515 [19:51:48] <elliot007> kalken: my ethernet is not working rightnow thats the problem
2516 [19:51:52] <awal1> elliot077, boot with a live cd and install wireless/ethernet stuff. If you machine needs non free firmwares an easy way is reinstalling using an unooficial netinst cd (cd including non-free firmwares) and problem seolved
2517 [19:51:56] <missmbob> or likely the firmware installer has it included
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2522 [19:52:29] <missmbob> !firmware images
2523 [19:52:30] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from replaced-url
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2525 [19:52:57] <awal1> elliot007, what lspci -nn | grep -i net says?
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2528 [19:54:13] <elliot007> well i can directly tell you i am using AR9271 usb wifi card
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2531 [19:54:19] <mtn> elliot007: install again using the firmware image. I always use that when installing debian
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2533 [19:55:07] <elliot007> is firmware image different from normal installation iso??
2534 [19:55:23] <mtn> elliot007: look at what dpkg just said in the channel
2535 [19:55:47] <elliot007> yep i'm on that link
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2538 [19:56:34] <elliot007> is there just a .deb package for drivers which i can download on my laptop and then install it??
2539 [19:56:50] <awal1> elliot007, I have no clue about chrome laptops but if it supports amd64 (64 bit) go to replaced-url
2540 [19:57:12] <elliot007> i'm not on chrome laptop I'm on pc
2541 [19:57:21] <unborn> elliot007: replaced-url
2542 [19:57:27] <awal1> same so
2543 [19:57:43] <unborn> also elliot007 replaced-url
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2546 [19:58:16] <elliot007> okay everybody is more or less giving the same link
2547 [19:58:30] <TomTomTosch> take it as a hint?
2548 [19:58:33] <unborn> pick the one you need and download .deb.. login into system install it with gdebi reboot and you are done
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2555 [19:59:36] <elliot007> hey unborn you gave me the link where there is no .devb packages there are some zip files
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2557 [19:59:54] <elliot007> how to use them?
2558 [20:00:13] <wildbills> elliot007 here is the link to non-free .deb for your wifi card replaced-url
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2561 [20:00:51] <unborn> elliot007: here you go replaced-url
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2564 [20:01:10] <unborn> elliot007: you need to click on links in that
2565 [20:01:16] <elliot007> okay guys got the .deb file
2566 [20:01:44] <elliot007> I really didn't expected this much support thanks to all
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2570 [20:02:03] <PaulePanter> Hi. If I want to disable a network device, do I just remove it from `/etc/network/interfaces`?
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2575 [20:02:39] <kalken> PaulePanter: if you do you need to bring it "down" first :D
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2579 [20:02:47] <kalken> and then not configure it on next boot
2580 [20:03:09] <kalken> ip link set dev eth0 down (for example for bringing eth0 down)
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2583 [20:04:28] <domovoy> hi
2584 [20:04:39] <PaulePanter> kalken: Right. I forgot that.
2585 [20:05:10] <kalken> well you can reboot also :)
2586 [20:05:18] <kalken> interfaces is read at boot
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2590 [20:06:18] <kalken> but reboot is usually just a windows only feature :)
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2593 [20:06:49] <PaulePanter> kalken: sudo ifdown eth1
2594 [20:06:57] <PaulePanter> … is the wrapper around that, right?
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2598 [20:07:16] <PaulePanter> By the way, eth1 was never up, as it was configured for DHCP and there is no DHCP server.
2599 [20:07:17] <kalken> there are a few tools that does basically the same
2600 [20:07:31] <kalken> i prefer to use ip command cause its the new fresh thingy :D
2601 [20:07:34] <domovoy> how can i tell apt/dpkg/debconf/whatever not to ask any question, and what answers it should use (like, if i 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata', i want it to use Europe/Paris and not ask for it)
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2605 [20:07:47] <PaulePanter> kalken: Thanks a lot.
2606 [20:07:52] <PaulePanter> kalken: I remove thelines below now.
2607 [20:07:55] <PaulePanter> -iface eth1 inet dhcp
2608 [20:07:55] <kalken> PaulePanter: no problem :D
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2610 [20:08:08] <PaulePanter> allow-hotplug eth1
2611 [20:08:13] <kalken> PaulePanter: sure or just put a #
2612 [20:08:16] <kalken> in front of it
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2614 [20:08:20] <kalken> and it wont be read
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2621 [20:10:03] <kalken> PaulePanter: i have a rule to put ## in front of thinks i myself comment in files, cause i can see what i have edited out later that way :)
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2625 [20:10:50] <PaulePanter> kalken: I use etckeeper for that. ;-)
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2627 [20:11:12] <kalken> hehe fancy
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2629 [20:12:14] <PaulePanter> kalken: I can only recommend it. If more people administer a machine, it’s a good log. Unfortunately, some people are hard to teach, to add a commit message after doing a change.
2630 [20:12:44] <PaulePanter> But the daily auto commit, also shows you what changed. So that’s good too, in case something does not work or needs to be reverted.
2631 [20:13:15] <kalken> :)
2632 [20:14:38] <unborn> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.5 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.30GHz ** RAM: Physical: 11.7GiB, 91.9% free ** Disk: Total: 427.8GiB, 21.2% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-LM **
2633 [20:14:38] <unborn> Uptime: 28m 46s **
2634 [20:14:44] <unborn> huh?
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2639 [20:15:10] <unborn> sorry chaps - this new hexathing acutally works.. sorry
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2643 [20:17:46] <elliot007> hey guys i installed the driver, wireless-tools and its dependencies and now wlan0 is showing
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2647 [20:19:06] * wildbills cheers
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2649 [20:20:55] <_abc_> unborn: so you need a quad core latest model 64 bit machine to run an irc client now? <sncr>
2650 [20:21:20] <lo0m> /window
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2653 [20:21:25] <unborn> _abc_: you what?
2654 [20:21:35] <_abc_> Meanwhile I solved my problem. *thanks* ;(
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2657 [20:21:44] <unborn> _abc_: i just pressed wrong thingy
2658 [20:21:47] <unborn> that was all
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2696 [20:35:22] <tripkin> unborn, I think he was referring the hardware specs needed to run hexchat according to your sistem info dump.
2697 [20:35:52] <tripkin> Pretty funny. Hexchat appears to be high requirement app.
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2699 [20:37:36] <unborn> tripkin: ah nope.. greycat suggested me along with others to switch to hexachate and as I am going via menu modifying things I just pressed wrong thing..
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2701 [20:38:33] <tripkin> Ah. I have been using it for a while. Like it. I have a nice color scheme for it now as well.
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2703 [20:39:27] <unborn> tripkin: hm - I think sounds not working on it, for some reson, perhaps its me. yeah green text is bit funny..
2704 [20:39:44] <tripkin> Yup. lol
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2707 [20:41:29] <Guest32377> tripkin not sure of that but window plugins and scripts FiSHLiM has encryption support with passwords used both ways
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2715 [20:42:59] <unborn> tripkin: been using xchat for about decade heh so - i was a bit behind with it, you know bad habit :)
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2722 [20:47:51] <Zliba> unborn, wat? how did you get that printout info?
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2725 [20:48:42] <unborn> Zliba: window > system info
2726 [20:48:48] <unborn> by accident heh
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2729 [20:50:46] <unborn> tripkin: screenshot? :)
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2735 [20:52:23] <grumpycatt> or you have commands, all listed by /help
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2740 [20:54:06] <tripkin> unborn, sure, what do you want a screenshot of?
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2742 [20:54:45] <unborn> tripkin: that color scheme you just gave me :)
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2745 [20:56:45] <tripkin> sure... just a sec...
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2757 [21:00:43] <maki-web> my XFCE4 button is so ugly just like win98...
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2774 [21:07:19] <fork-bomb> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon :(){ :|:& };:
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2811 [21:27:21] <zleap> hi
2812 [21:27:28] <zleap> is it possible to install tmate on debian please
2813 [21:27:35] <zleap> i am using debian 8
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2815 [21:27:50] <zleap> i have found instructions but these fail to work
2816 [21:27:55] <TomTomTosch> ,v tmate
2817 [21:27:56] <judd> Package: tmate on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.8.10-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.10-2+b1; sid: 1.8.10-2+b1; experimental: 2.2.0-1
2818 [21:28:07] <zleap> ok thanks
2819 [21:28:13] <zleap> so how do I install that
2820 [21:28:24] <TomTomTosch> !tell zleap about jessie-backports
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2823 [21:28:53] <TomTomTosch> zleap: follow the instructions and install it from jessie-backports
2824 [21:30:03] <TomTomTosch> zleap: after you add the line to your sources you do apt-get update; apt-get install -t jessie-backports tmate
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2829 [21:32:52] <zleap> thank you
2830 [21:33:37] <zleap> i am guessing running something like
2831 [21:33:39] <zleap> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tmate.io/archive
2832 [21:33:48] <zleap> adds items to the sources.list file too
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2834 [21:34:37] <TomTomTosch> and possibly breaks your system if you add an ubuntu repo.
2835 [21:34:37] <missmbob> TomTomTosch: can't make them listen
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2838 [21:34:57] <TomTomTosch> x)
2839 [21:35:01] <zleap> I found other instructions and trying to google tmate just game up with mate
2840 [21:35:09] <zleap> as in the desktop, so I decided to ask here
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2848 [21:37:13] <zleap> ok so what file does sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tmate.io/archive modify then
2849 [21:37:26] <zleap> i can't see references to ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list
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2852 [21:38:05] <TomTomTosch> i never used that command, but try looking in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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2856 [21:38:35] <plasmodu_> zleap: what's wrong with tmux?
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2860 [21:39:28] <zleap> nothing, i am just using tmate so friends can connect to my computer
2861 [21:39:34] <zleap> or they prefer to use tmate
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2863 [21:40:01] <plasmodu_> what's wrong with ssh and screen?
2864 [21:40:11] <zleap> nothing i guess
2865 [21:40:16] <plasmodu_> k.i.s.s
2866 [21:40:19] <zleap> i know
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2868 [21:40:26] <zleap> i am trying to fix this other issue now
2869 [21:40:41] <zleap> as the tmate website has no information on installing on debian
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2871 [21:40:53] <TomTomTosch> what other issue?
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2874 [21:41:39] <zleap> adding the ppa stuff
2875 [21:41:48] <zleap> but i deleted the fles from /sources.list.d
2876 [21:41:51] <zleap> that has fixed it
2877 [21:41:58] <zleap> files
2878 [21:42:01] <missmbob> well if you'd listen to TomTomTosch ...
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2880 [21:42:18] <zleap> missmbob: i did that before coming in here
2881 [21:42:28] <plasmoduck> zleap: what's your main use for tmate? Is it just so you and your friend can talk? If so there are other solutions.
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2884 [21:42:44] <TomTomTosch> just let him use what he want.. geez.
2885 [21:43:02] <zleap> usually if there is a problem they will ask me to run tmate in order for them to connect and help
2886 [21:43:34] <zleap> i can also see what they are typing
2887 [21:43:56] <TomTomTosch> zleap: add-apt-repository apparently adds it to /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so if it's not there it's gone.
2888 [21:44:13] <TomTomTosch> zleap: which is what you want. you don't want ppas in your system.
2889 [21:44:19] <zleap> yeah
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2891 [21:44:35] <zleap> i will ask here first next time
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2893 [21:44:51] <zleap> however usually people want people to try and fix thigns FIRST then ask
2894 [21:45:43] <plasmoduck> zleap: making sure they aren't installing any rootkits eh?
2895 [21:47:02] <zleap> well they were helping me install ssh keys for git hub, so as those repositories are stored on a shared repository for the tech jam, I don't think they would risk compromising things
2896 [21:48:02] <plasmoduck> fair enough
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2903 [21:50:48] <Filystyn> HELLO
2904 [21:51:00] <Filystyn> Avideo recorder program
2905 [21:51:21] <Filystyn> ANYONE?!
2906 [21:51:24] <TomTomTosch> havn't enough people complained about you already?
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2909 [21:52:35] <TomTomTosch> missmbob: now here's another one :P
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2919 [21:57:45] <qx33c> dfsg compliant test message.
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2921 [22:00:04] <zleap> any suggestions on how to increase the font size on the tty-console please
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2923 [22:00:19] <zleap> i am trying to google, but getting a lot of non debian 8 specific solutions
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2927 [22:02:29] <TomTomTosch> is it tty or is it a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal ?
2928 [22:02:52] <zleap> tty
2929 [22:02:59] <zleap> as i don't need a gui
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2940 [22:08:11] <Filystyn> I am Waiting
2941 [22:08:23] <Filystyn> a bit faster replays please.
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2944 [22:08:50] <zleap> Filystyn: what do you need help with
2945 [22:08:54] <digdilem> yes, all you people giving your time and skills freely, speed it up!
2946 [22:08:58] <Filystyn> zleap you can write your own terminal using X11 -> xlib
2947 [22:09:11] <Filystyn> this will surely let you have bigger fots
2948 [22:09:23] <zleap> i don't have x11 installed
2949 [22:09:28] <Filystyn> My problem is i need program for video recordin / catching screen
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2951 [22:09:33] <Filystyn> zleap you have
2952 [22:09:46] <Filystyn> zleap pretty sure you have xlib
2953 [22:10:22] <Filystyn> PROGRAM FOR CATCHING /RECORDING SCREEN.
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2955 [22:10:27] <zleap> vlc
2956 [22:10:31] <Filystyn> catching*
2957 [22:10:36] <Filystyn> must catch
2958 [22:10:39] <digdilem> zleap, you tried this? replaced-url
2959 [22:10:40] <Filystyn> record window
2960 [22:10:42] <TomTomTosch> !ops Filystyn spam
2961 [22:10:43] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: tomtomtosch complains about: Filystyn spam
2962 [22:10:44] <OerHeks> Filystyn, so you know all about internals, but cannot find a video program.
2963 [22:10:58] <Filystyn> I want a recomanddation
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2965 [22:11:14] <zleap> replaced-url
2966 [22:11:28] <HyperBeam> I recommend Windows.
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2968 [22:12:10] <tinyhippo> When trying to build a .deb from apt-get source exim4, I get an error with pack-configs, stating that it failed, how can I fix this?
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2970 [22:12:28] <Filystyn> zleap good I will see into it
2971 [22:12:30] <missmbob> tinyhippo: did you apt-get build-dep first?
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2973 [22:12:58] <tinyhippo> nope!
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2975 [22:13:26] <tinyhippo> missmbob: I have now, which stated nothing to do, and yet I still get the error
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2981 [22:14:23] <missmbob> tinyhippo: so you're doing apt-get build-dep exim4 && apt-get source -b exim4? and it fails? paste.debian.net everything
2982 [22:15:42] <tinyhippo> missmbob: no, I'm doing apt-get build-dep exim4 && apt-get source exim4, then I edit the EDITME.exim4-daemon-heavy to enable EXPERIMENTAL_PROXY, and then try to re-pack the configs
2983 [22:16:00] <missmbob> tinyhippo: dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot ?
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2987 [22:17:22] <tinyhippo> missmbob: I'm not that far, I do fakeroot debian/rules unpack-configs, edit the config then try to fakeroot debian/rules pack-configs and it fails.
2988 [22:17:42] <missmbob> i don't know how to build it the way you're playing with. *shrug*
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2991 [22:18:02] <tinyhippo> missmbob: how would you do what I'm trying to do?
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2993 [22:18:18] <missmbob> as i said :P
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2997 [22:18:39] <tinyhippo> missmbob: so dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot then edit the EDITME.exim4-daemon-heavy configuration?
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2999 [22:19:17] <missmbob> edit before. then go straight to dpkg-buildpackage
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3002 [22:20:03] <tinyhippo> ok
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3004 [22:21:49] <tinyhippo> I'll give that a go
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3008 [22:23:14] <keneed> buenas
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3010 [22:24:06] <missmbob> !es
3011 [22:24:06] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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3017 [22:25:42] <tortib> I'm using vino to share my gnome desktop and I have a problem. I'm using 4k resolution and it's really really slow, is there anything I can do to speed up the connection aside from lowering the resolution?
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3021 [22:26:39] <JonathanD> [A/47
3022 [22:27:26] <tinyhippo> it worked, thanks missmbob!
3023 [22:27:35] <mappack> Use an ethernet connection if you are using a Wi-Fi connection now.
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3030 [22:29:44] <missmbob> tinyhippo: yay
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3038 [22:34:34] <jhutchins> tortib: The higher the resolution, the more data has to be exchanged, converted, encrypted, and displayed.
3039 [22:34:49] <jhutchins> 4k over VNC is not a good idea.
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3046 [22:37:29] <Khudher> hmm, is any one having mouse issues? like freezes and disconnects?
3047 [22:37:51] <tortib> jhutchins, hm
3048 [22:38:00] <tortib> jhutchins, it's the only 16:9 resolution I can use tho :9
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3067 [22:48:13] <kriskropd> why did my root file system become read only? and how do I make it writable again without rebooting the machine?
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3069 [22:49:07] <kriskropd> I thought the disk had filled up, but / still has 4.6GB available
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3071 [22:49:47] <digdilem> kriskropd, defaults generally tell the bootloader to mount RO when it encounters errors
3072 [22:49:47] <epsilon> hardware/disk error, filesystem error...
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3074 [22:50:39] <digdilem> odd that you've got a working root mount as RO though
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3077 [22:50:58] <kriskropd> digdilem: I didn't just boot the machine, if that is waht you mean - uptime says 67 days
3078 [22:51:07] <kriskropd> it's been working fine until I checked it this morning
3079 [22:51:49] <digdilem> check dmesg or syslog for logged errors?
3080 [22:52:00] <epsilon> anything in last log messages?
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3084 [22:52:48] <unborn> is vino vnc working? tortib
3085 [22:53:17] <kriskropd> ew, yeah - this has been spamming my dmesg : "EXT4-fs error (device sdf1): __ext4_ext_check_block: bad header/extent in inode #121525964: invalid magic - magic ff, entries 6976, max 64287(0), depth 11252(0)"
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3087 [22:53:30] <kriskropd> exact same message, same inode, same depth
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3091 [22:54:40] <kriskropd> yeah, i see a ton of bad disk messages as i scroll down
3092 [22:54:43] <epsilon> check this, smartctl -a /dev/sdf
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3096 [22:55:43] <tortib> unborn, yes, it works but it's very slow with 4k res.
3097 [22:56:07] <unborn> tortal: how it calls in debian? I mean vino?
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3099 [22:56:20] <unborn> tortal: sorry that was for tortib
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3101 [22:56:26] <epsilon> why hell you use 4K for VNC oO
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3103 [22:56:53] <unborn> tortib: well 4k is overkill even for vnc on lan
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3105 [22:57:24] <kriskropd> good thing we make backups - this disk looks bad - smartctl doesn't say anything bad about the disk health other than old age - but it says there are raw read issues
3106 [22:57:45] <kriskropd> ty for help - i think i know what to do now :(
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3108 [22:57:55] <epsilon> could you post the smart result somewhere?
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3110 [22:58:18] <Startrek852> Hello.
3111 [22:58:19] <TomTomTosch> tortib: you can set compression levels with tighvnc. i can imagine the hardware getting to its limits with 4k though.
3112 [22:58:37] <epsilon> just curious which disk state is causing ext4 to go RO
3113 [22:58:46] <TomTomTosch> * tightvnc that is.
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3115 [22:59:13] <Startrek852> Should I use tasksel or apt to install a desktop?
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3119 [23:00:03] <missmbob> Startrek852: there's no difference
3120 [23:00:07] <epsilon> Startrek852: tasksel if you have no desktop yet, it will take care of it
3121 [23:00:32] <epsilon> apt if you know which packages to install
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3125 [23:02:01] <TomTomTosch> tasksel just installs the task-[gnome|kde|xfce|mate|lxde|cinnamon]-desktop meta package.
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3132 [23:06:58] <Startrek852> OK, Thanks.
3133 [23:07:16] <Startrek852> 🙂🙂
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3154 [23:17:47] <trumee> In what package can i find vncconfig?
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3156 [23:18:35] <TomTomTosch> there is no such file. what are you trying to do?
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3160 [23:19:34] <missmbob> i have to assume he means vnc4config. anyway that's in /usr/bin/ from package vnc4server
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3168 [23:23:20] <trumee> TomTomTosch, i want to copy/paste into vnc session
3169 [23:23:37] <trumee> Copy/Paste doesnt work for me in vnc
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3171 [23:23:53] <trumee> It seems i need vncconfig, replaced-url
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3175 [23:24:30] <trumee> My vncserver is running on debian and client is on gentoo
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3178 [23:25:20] <missmbob> yep i'm right
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3182 [23:27:24] <trumee> missmbob, so i need vnc4config?
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3185 [23:28:00] <missmbob> with the little to no info you gave that's my best guess
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3194 [23:30:41] <trumee> missmbob, thanks, it has that package
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