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0 [00:00:00] <RoyK> !lsb
1 [00:00:00] <dpkg> rumour has it, lsb is Debian is dropping LSB support; see replaced-url
2 [00:00:08] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: don't save it as a PNG. copy the text to the paste site.
3 [00:00:26] <b6s3d> as you wish
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5 [00:00:45] <RoyK> sorry.... that was
6 [00:00:46] <RoyK> !sns
7 [00:00:46] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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9 [00:01:12] <teraflops> RoyK: please stop
10 [00:01:21] <RoyK> teraflops: I've already stopped
11 [00:01:33] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
12 [00:01:49] <teraflops> RoyK: lol?
13 [00:02:04] <b6s3d> replaced-url
14 [00:02:15] <awal1> bobol, well, unstable (sid) isn't really weird, unstable doesn't mean broken system/less tested pkgs, it mean IT changes, as jmcnaught told you, it's like a rolling system. If you run a conservative desktop environment or just X window manager with sid, and having a good habits and taking care of your system, you can run sid just fine, for daily use tasks, not production
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16 [00:02:38] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: what are you showing us? I thought you had trouble doing "apt-get update"?
17 [00:02:56] <b6s3d> -.-
18 [00:03:01] <b6s3d> brb 3 min
19 [00:03:57] <bobol> awal1> all my application will be inside docker or qemu-kvm
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21 [00:04:10] <bobol> I think that will let my system stable
22 [00:04:13] <awal1> bobol, conservative DE I mean xfce. If you run gnome/kde/cinnamon in sid, then you will enjoy your time fixing stuff, which thing makes you learn too :P
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25 [00:05:29] <awal1> bobol, a good choice is running jessie + sid in a vm, if you are not an adventurous user :P
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27 [00:06:28] <bobol> I'm ^^
28 [00:06:37] <bobol> Ok I'll try debian unstable with gnome :) I hope it not make me crazy
29 [00:06:40] <bobol> haha
30 [00:06:56] <awal1> gnome is broken right now in sid
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32 [00:07:12] <bobol> and in testing ?
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34 [00:07:28] <awal1> i dont know, i no use it
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36 [00:08:20] <bobol> perhaps I'll use testing and see
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47 [00:14:26] <bobol> I have a stupid job as a sysadmin. so I need to contribute to some project or I'll become crazy -_-
48 [00:15:09] <b6s3d> jmcnaught: excuse my delay, i ran into some meatballs
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51 [00:17:00] <b6s3d> i got those files i listed for you from my vpn provider, but the guy who gave me them said they where for advance users, i am not that advance yet so i thought coming here might be a good idea. they are for a static public ip
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55 [00:18:48] <awal1> bobol, when something is broken in sid, like gnome now, that means a dependencies problems, but similar stuff are fixed in a few days, sometimes in less then 24/48 hours. thats what broken means usually
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61 [00:19:49] <bobol> I understand
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70 [00:25:21] <bobol> I have to go to sleep
71 [00:25:27] <bobol> good night :)
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127 [00:46:01] <miesco> How do I see what debian packages I have?
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132 [00:47:49] <miesco> Well, I mean how do I tell what packages from a backup of a computer?
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138 [00:50:26] <miesco> Is there log files or something?
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145 [00:56:10] <awal1> miesco, well, if you just want list all the packages installed in your machine run dpkg -l
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147 [00:57:55] <miesco> awal1: I only have the files from the machine
148 [00:58:28] <awal1> miesco, I don't understand what's you want exactly
149 [00:58:40] <awal1> no clue if other peopel understood you
150 [00:59:16] <awal1> what you want ^
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171 [01:12:22] <chrislamp> hello all! I am using Debian as desktop and I need very much to connect to windows 10 machines shares. I have this bug as many other users: replaced-url
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173 [01:13:14] <chrislamp> it seems that smbclient and nautilus not working with windows10 at all
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177 [01:13:43] <chrislamp> it is logical for debian team to not contain those fixes?? thank you
178 [01:14:10] <awilfox> hello there, I am trying to report a bug with GNU Parted which appears to use the Trac instance on Alioth, and er, it doesn't seem to be working very well replaced-url
179 [01:14:22] <awilfox> whom in Debian would I contact to report this error and potentially have it fixed?
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181 [01:14:45] <awilfox> it doesn't seem like I can report it via Trac, anyway...
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184 [01:15:33] <peterrooney> miesco: try /var/lib/dpkg/status
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190 [01:17:59] <PadawanLearner> aloha
191 [01:18:12] <petemc> chrislamp: windows 10 is a moving target, hard to keep up with.
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197 [01:23:07] <ronkrt> I have a CD Iso how can I use a sub stick too install from?
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202 [01:25:17] <petemc> ronkrt: /msg dpkg usb install
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204 [01:25:50] <ronkrt> thank you
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212 [01:32:54] <jelly> awilfox, hmm. See the topic in #alioth on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org)
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214 [01:34:42] <janemba> hi
215 [01:35:10] <janemba> when I try to mount nfs share I have the following error :
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217 [01:35:14] <janemba> mount.nfs: mount(2): No such device
218 [01:35:16] <janemba> mount.nfs: No such device
219 [01:36:01] <janemba> replaced-url
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224 [01:38:45] <chrislamp> petemc: other distributions have already fixed this bug many time ago.
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228 [01:39:39] <chrislamp> it is so difficult for debian to go from samba 4.2 to 4.4?
229 [01:39:56] <chrislamp> windows 10 installations getting more and more
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245 [01:45:16] <jelly> janemba: which debian release is this? is local rpcbind or portmap service running?
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247 [01:46:32] <janemba> jelly: this is a debian 8.5 and rpcbind is running
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250 [01:47:54] <jelly> janemba: you need: portmap/rpcbind, locally; portmap/rpcing and nfsd, remotely (check with: rpcinfo -p remote-server-name); correct exports remotely (check with: showmount -e remote-server-name)
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253 [01:48:08] <jelly> that's for nfs v3. v4 needs some more
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257 [01:49:55] <ronkrt> If my mouse isn't moving during graphical install will it Not work when I boot?
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261 [01:51:24] <janemba> jelly: well, the export are ok I can connect with another machine but I can't find portmap with apt-cache
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263 [01:52:11] <jelly> janemba, that's fine, you need either rpcbind or portmap, any of the two will do
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265 [01:52:36] <janemba> jelly: well rpcbind is alread started :(
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267 [01:52:54] <jelly> janemba: what does "rpcinfo -p localhost" say?
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269 [01:53:04] <jelly> janemba: and also is nfs-common service running?
270 [01:53:13] <jelly> on the client
271 [01:53:30] <janemba> jelly: replaced-url
272 [01:53:43] <janemba> jelly: nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server started
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284 [01:58:38] <jelly> you don't need nfs-kernel-server on the _client_
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288 [01:59:50] <jelly> janemba, that's weird, only portmap itself in the output as if nfs-common isn't active at all.
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290 [02:00:20] <janemba> jelly: oh
291 [02:00:36] <jelly> janemba, pastebin also: "systemctl status nfs-common"
292 [02:00:41] <janemba> jelly: ok
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294 [02:01:47] <janemba> jelly: replaced-url
295 [02:01:55] <janemba> jelly: seems portmap is needed
296 [02:02:35] <jelly> janemba, rpcbind implements the "portmapper" thing nfs-common needs.
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298 [02:03:11] <jelly> janemba, try to restart nfs-common, then try "rpcinfo -p localhost" and "systemctl status nfs-common" again
299 [02:03:27] <janemba> ok
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302 [02:04:35] <janemba> replaced-url
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306 [02:06:53] <jelly> that seems a bit better, try your mount again
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309 [02:09:38] <janemba> hmm
310 [02:09:40] <janemba> same error
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312 [02:10:24] <jelly> what is the exact command line you're using?
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315 [02:12:41] <janemba> mount -t nfs ip:/path/foo /mnt
316 [02:12:54] <janemba> I know the command is correct as it works on another box
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319 [02:13:42] <jelly> that's not the exact command.
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321 [02:14:13] <jelly> I can't tell whether your mount point is really /mnt or something else.
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327 [02:19:20] <janemba> /mnt is ok
328 [02:19:43] <janemba> the error says "mount.nfs: no such device"
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338 [02:24:28] <miesco> Hi. Is there any possible threats when sshing to a known host from a public wifi?
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357 [02:38:06] <Artemis3> miesco, sure, someone knows you are doing an encrypted connection, don't do it in China.
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359 [02:39:55] <ronkrt> How do I configure my WiFi
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364 [02:43:33] <sm00th> hello all, is there a way to shrink an encrypted ext4 root partition?
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366 [02:44:29] <curtis22> yes, replaced-url
367 [02:44:31] <ronkrt> ):
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370 [02:45:08] <sm00th> curtis22, tks
371 [02:46:00] <curtis22> sm00th: no problem
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373 [02:46:24] <sm00th> curtis22, can I use any livecd, or should it be a debian one?
374 [02:46:32] * extor ran a fresh install of debian 8, however the only package selection menu he was presented with was this, replaced-url
375 [02:47:57] <sm00th> extor, what iso you use?
376 [02:48:07] <curtis22> i did it with debian jessie (same as the installed os )
377 [02:48:18] * extor suspects that when two conditions are present, firstly no network connectivity during a fresh install and secondly the only installation media being CD1(not DVD1) of debian8 that perhaps due to the lack of window managers on CD1 there is no further choices of a window manager presented to the installer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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379 [02:48:27] <ronkrt> How do I manually choose my Wi-Fi network as root in cmd?
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381 [02:48:37] <sm00th> but I mean what specific iso file, and di you check the hash?
382 [02:49:46] <extor> Let me retrieve the exact url of the iso file
383 [02:50:01] <sm00th> what if you try with the non graphical install mode.
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385 [02:50:42] <extor> replaced-url
386 [02:50:42] <extor> rg/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
387 [02:50:58] * extor has tried it with the non graphical as well as the graphical method
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389 [02:52:17] <ronkrt> Extor my install has the same options only aswell
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392 [02:52:42] <extor> ronkrt, there was another person a coule of hours ago who had the same issue
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394 [02:53:03] <extor> <miesco> How come I have hardly any packages in my new install?
395 [02:53:23] <sm00th> you guys verify the hash or sig?
396 [02:53:26] <ronkrt> I can't figure out how to setup my Wi-Fi I'm in the ps4 it installed ok
397 [02:53:33] <extor> ronkrt, but did your install give you an X window manager?
398 [02:53:41] <ronkrt> Yes
399 [02:54:00] <ronkrt> But i have no app to doo Wi-Fi
400 [02:54:05] * extor recalls running a CD scan during install which verifies the integrity of all listed packages
401 [02:54:38] <sm00th> I would check the sig too
402 [02:55:10] <sm00th> or i mean with debian check the sig of the hashfile and then check the hash lol
403 [02:55:19] <ronkrt> Anyone know how to setup Wi-Fi from cmd
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405 [02:55:48] <sm00th> ronkrt, netctl I guess
406 [02:55:53] <ronkrt> I'm on my phone atm so it would be useful info for me
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408 [02:56:00] <ronkrt> Lemme try
409 [02:56:22] <extor> 443272aea9729ce281a1bc5b258a4243 debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
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411 [02:56:36] <ronkrt> Not found
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413 [02:57:04] <extor> I assume if the checksum of the entire iso is OK, then the sigs of each package have to be OK too
414 [02:57:17] <sm00th> extor, ya
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417 [02:57:34] <ikla> can you do batch commands with grub2?
418 [02:57:51] <wildbills> ronkrt iwconfig
419 [02:57:53] <RoyK> why?
420 [02:57:56] <extor> From what I recall those are some of the new features of grub2
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422 [02:58:13] <ikla> grub 1 I did grub --batch < command_file
423 [02:58:18] <ikla> to easily configure bootloader
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425 [02:58:22] <ikla> can you still do that in 2?
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427 [02:58:43] <ronkrt> Great
428 [02:59:00] <ronkrt> I dunno how to use it:(
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430 [02:59:42] <sm00th> ronkrt, do you prefer to use a de?
431 [02:59:57] <ronkrt> Dr?
432 [03:00:05] <ronkrt> De?
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434 [03:00:28] <wildbills> ronkrt iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed essid 'my_network' key 'xxxxxxxx'
435 [03:00:32] <sm00th> desktop environment, like kde, gnome, etc...
436 [03:00:45] <extor> #grub would know
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438 [03:01:50] <sm00th> ronkrt, you can just use an iso that comes with it. I use the kde iso.
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445 [03:03:07] <sm00th> extor, this paage might be helpful replaced-url
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449 [03:03:31] <sm00th> replaced-url
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451 [03:04:22] <ronkrt> I have the kde cd
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453 [03:04:43] <ronkrt> Tx_power=off. Good or bad?
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458 [03:06:01] <extor> sm00th, I wasnt the one having wifi issues, that was ronkrt
459 [03:06:34] * extor was simply installing in a vmware virtual machine with no network access(unusual in these times)
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467 [03:08:26] <ronkrt> How do I tell it to use dhcp?
468 [03:08:46] <extor> In my case it assumed I was using dhcp by default
469 [03:09:31] <extor> this was after detecting a hard eth0 however, not a wifi interface but I assume the rules apply there too
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483 [03:16:01] <DoNotBeGay> I am the messenger of His Majesty the Great Clown, Allah himself
484 [03:16:08] <DoNotBeGay> We must cleanse the world of fags, jews, niggers, and pigs
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486 [03:17:42] <jmcnaught> !ops DoNotBeGay
487 [03:17:42] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: DoNotBeGay
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489 [03:18:01] <sm00th> extor, lol my bad
490 [03:18:32] <sm00th> extor, in these times you always gotta verify the iso its so crazy, maybe debian wants you to download de iso if you want one i dunno. weird.
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493 [03:19:26] <sm00th> extor, wanna hear something weird. everytime I install the kde iso, its a diff mouse cursor theme/color
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526 [03:47:09] <b3d0u1n> So, these wheezy "machines" are running in VMs on a Squeeze box. The Squeeze box has NTP installed. The VMs were getting their time from the hardware clock. That explains why I could not find the ntp settings on the wheezy vms.
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528 [03:47:26] <b3d0u1n> (ticket closed)
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555 [04:11:15] <Tenacious-Techhu> Anyone know how to recover a recently deleted file from the SD Card the OS is being run from?
556 [04:11:53] <Bennux> Hi, I recommend to use photorec
557 [04:12:30] <Bennux> installing the package "testdisk"
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600 [04:46:26] <Tenacious-Techhu> Is photorec going to find text files?
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605 [04:53:52] <Bennux> yes, photorec recovery all type of files on the Drive.
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608 [04:57:04] <Bennux> But i no have idea how to select an specific folder, only select the type of file to recovery
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611 [04:58:17] <awal1> Tenacious-Techhu, photorec may not recover the whole content but around 80/90% usually...
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613 [04:59:34] <Tenacious-Techhu> I was trying to use debugfs earlier, but it was confusing as hell.
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615 [05:00:02] <awal1> Any clue (if possible; seems not) on how to handle screen margins under fluxbox?
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631 [05:08:52] <neldogz> Hi all, I am trying to get psensors to see my CPU fan. My motherboard carries a nuvoTon NCT6793D chip that can detect the fan speeds so I tried to load the driver for it using modprobe -v nct6775 but psensor still doesn't see the fans.
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673 [05:43:55] <Elronnd> Can someone explain to me why I can't uninstall firefox-esr without removing GNOME?
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676 [05:45:54] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: because it is a dependency of the gnome-core package, which is a meta-package that depends on other packages that together compose a GNOME desktop
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678 [05:46:56] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: removing the gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop packages won't actually remove gnome, but if you don't have the meta-packages you might not automatically get new gnome-core dependencies during an upgrade (if they change)
679 [05:46:57] <Elronnd> And if I want to use another browser with GNOME like, say...Waterfox, qutebrowser, or chromium, tough luck I can't free up that disk space without annoying the package manager?
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681 [05:47:51] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: also it doesn't really take up that much space. besides it's good to have two browsers installed, so you can research how to fix one if it breaks
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683 [05:48:14] <Elronnd> I intend to have no less than three browsers installed
684 [05:48:17] <Elronnd> possibly four
685 [05:48:33] <Elronnd> plus a few text-based ones
686 [05:48:44] <jmcnaught> firefox-esr and chromium are the only browsers on jessie that are covered by security support
687 [05:49:01] <Elronnd> I'm on stretch
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689 [05:49:36] <jmcnaught> in that case you may want to keep the gnome meta-packages in case changes happen to their dependencies during the development cycle
690 [05:50:01] <jmcnaught> stretch by the way is usually the last to get security updates
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711 [06:02:05] <Chaos_> give me bitcoin or I vote for donald trump 1J4Fd6yN32ys6ED4A25FxsvXg6kTcCRpxV
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718 [06:05:25] <Pied_> Hello
719 [06:05:28] <Pied_> I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly. Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real keyboard?
720 [06:05:32] <Pied_> Code: replaced-url
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746 [06:19:15] <mutante> i installed a fresh jessie on this Dell R420. let it setup software RAID1. installer finishes..then on first boot..fail. mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found. cant detect disks.. with 4.4 kernel. then i go to grub, see i can select a 3.16 kernel too and with that it boots just fine... how do i make the 3.16 kernel the default in grub for now until that is fixed. grub v2 and all the menuentry lines are generated by those scripts..sigh
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748 [06:21:23] <mutante> i even got to: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' already :p
749 [06:21:24] <cra1g321> why do you have 4.4 kernel if you're on jessie ?
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756 [06:24:19] <mutante> cra1g321: oooh. eh, because the local install server gave it to me when i selected "jessie-installer"
757 [06:25:01] <mutante> linux-image-4.4.0-1-amd64
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759 [06:25:40] <mutante> i got the linux-meta-4.4 package
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770 [06:33:51] <latemus> i'v configured eth0 to use ipv4, but many services still listen on ipv6. How do i disable ipv6 _entirely_ in debian 8.5?
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773 [06:36:01] <latemus> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6 doesn't seem to do what i need
774 [06:36:37] <latemus> how do i configure debian so that it doesn't even start using ipv6 during boot?
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776 [06:37:02] <latemus> blacklist a module? the debian administrator guide doesnt say much about ipv3
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778 [06:37:14] <latemus> .. nor ipv6
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782 [06:38:42] <latemus> i assume debian's default kernel build has ipv6 support compiled in?
783 [06:39:52] <bhurstpdx1> it does
784 [06:40:11] <latemus> i deduced that from the absence of a loaded module
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792 [06:45:22] <latemus> 1. i tell /proc to disable ipv6. 2. service network restart. 3. netstat -lntup still shows services listening, will they do that even with ipv6 disabled in the kernel?
793 [06:46:20] <latemus> hm, i just found /etc/netconfig
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796 [06:47:09] <Pied_> Hello
797 [06:47:11] <Pied_> I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly. Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real keyboard?
798 [06:47:12] <Pied_> Code: replaced-url
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815 [07:16:51] <tom99> i clicked all the options on the install menu for debian jessie 8.5 disc 1 DVD
816 [07:16:57] <tom99> yet cmake wasn't installed
817 [07:17:12] <tom99> then when I typed apt-get install cmake on a fresh install it's asking me to insert the dvd
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819 [07:17:21] <tom99> how do I get all the packages on the dvd disc 1installed?
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853 [07:40:06] <Fat-Zer> Pied_: I believe you are looking for a way to injet a key press events into input subsystem, right?
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855 [07:41:12] <Fat-Zer> Pied_: dunno how to do it with python, but on system level you just open /dev/uinput and wright specially formated data there
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859 [07:43:51] <Fat-Zer> probably there is some python module to do that...
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881 [07:54:18] <Dongyancai> Hello, I followed the instructions in replaced-url
882 [07:54:24] <Dongyancai> "powerpcspe".
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884 [07:54:38] <[1]tom99> how do I install all the software from the debian CD?
885 [07:54:40] <[1]tom99> er DVD
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889 [07:57:09] <b6s3d> hi, how do i change resolv.conf permanent
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895 [07:58:22] <OtakuSenpai> [1]tom99: you do tht during the os installation process
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897 [07:59:01] <OtakuSenpai> but you dont need all of the dvds,you can install required software later with synaptic or apt
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900 [07:59:51] <ransur0t> b6s3d: what software do you require specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or replaced-url
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905 [08:02:12] <b6s3d> i think i fixed it :)
906 [08:02:20] <b6s3d> ransur0t
907 [08:02:29] <b6s3d> sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
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912 [08:03:45] <ransur0t> :)
913 [08:03:48] <[1]tom99> otakusenpai: I did. it didn't install emacs though i checked everything but webserver
914 [08:03:51] <aedinius> Okay, I need to scrollback now: why did making resolv.conf immutable fix the issue
915 [08:04:06] <OtakuSenpai> apt-cache search emacs
916 [08:04:07] <ransur0t> [1]tom99: what software do you require specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or replaced-url
917 [08:04:22] <[1]tom99> well it asked me to insert the DVD
918 [08:04:38] <[1]tom99> so i don't want to piecemeal just install things from the dvd and leave it in, i'd rather it install most of the dvd like I asked it to
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920 [08:04:56] <aedinius> b6s3d: let's find the root cause... what's happening with resolv.conf? what changes are happening to it? i'm guessing you're setting a custom DNS and it's getting overwritten by DHCP or something?
921 [08:05:05] <OtakuSenpai> were did you get tht notice?
922 [08:05:05] <OtakuSenpai> [1]tom99*
923 [08:05:43] <OtakuSenpai> i didnt install anything from the dvds...i just got it via apt,and it works fine [1]tom99
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926 [08:05:58] <ransur0t> tom99: aptitude search emacs
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928 [08:06:10] <OtakuSenpai> i suppose you hav installed debian os?
929 [08:06:17] <OtakuSenpai> *[1]tom99
930 [08:06:28] <b6s3d> aedinius: yeah that sounds about right
931 [08:06:30] <ransur0t> i have recently switched to aptitude from apt and and liking it
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933 [08:06:58] <b6s3d> i have a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
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935 [08:08:08] <aedinius> b6s3d: what are you using to configure network? if you're using /etc/network/interfaces, you can set the nameserver with dns-nameservers
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938 [08:09:11] <tom99> now i can't install w3m-el package with apt
939 [08:09:14] <b6s3d> dns-nameservers x.x.x.x x.x.x.x. ?
940 [08:09:17] <tom99> even though it says its referred to by another package
941 [08:09:24] <b6s3d> or x.x.x.x, x.x.x.x;
942 [08:09:35] <aedinius> b6s3d: yes. replaced-url
943 [08:09:44] <tom99> yes i just installed debian jesse 8.5 with the first dvd disc
944 [08:10:02] <aedinius> b6s3d: dns-nameservers 12.34.56.78 12.34.56.79
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946 [08:10:12] <b6s3d> alright that is already done
947 [08:10:21] <b6s3d> how do i check my dns?
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949 [08:10:36] <OtakuSenpai> ajust type su >>your passwd>> apt-get install emacs
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951 [08:11:03] <aedinius> b6s3d: well, when it sets the interface up, it should automatically set the /etc/resolv.conf
952 [08:11:34] <b6s3d> i removed the link, any alternatives?
953 [08:11:42] <aedinius> removed the link?
954 [08:12:15] <ransur0t> tom99: OtakuSenpai: perhaps the issue with "insert dvd" is that the line for cd/dvd source is not muted in /etc/apt/sources.list ...
955 [08:12:54] <ransur0t> tom99: i suggest checking your repository configuration in /etc/apt/sources.list
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957 [08:13:35] <tom99> ransur0t: i did, it has the debian cdrom listed and then the same line but commented out
958 [08:13:52] <tom99> anyway i have no idea how to install emacs-w3m except by manually downloading and compiling
959 [08:13:59] <tom99> so i guess i'll do that
960 [08:14:10] <ransur0t> tom99: both lines for cd should be commented out
961 [08:14:17] <tom99> kk
962 [08:14:57] <ransur0t> and make sure you've got a good http source for jessie repos, main, contrib, non-free, etc.
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964 [08:15:11] <tom99> just says main contrib free i think
965 [08:15:32] <tom99> er
966 [08:15:54] <ransur0t> should be all set then, once cd repo lines are disabled
967 [08:15:55] <tom99> it only has security.debian.org for jessie/updates, contrib, and main
968 [08:16:14] <tom99> anyway emacs-w3m and w3m-el are both not to be found bleh
969 [08:16:20] <tom99> it worked in wheezy
970 [08:16:30] <ransur0t> take a look here: replaced-url
971 [08:16:49] <ransur0t> see if you can track down a missing dependency or component
972 [08:16:52] <tom99> it says package w3m-el is not available, but is referred to by another package
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974 [08:17:55] <tom99> the web search you linked me to says w3m-el is available
975 [08:17:59] <tom99> for jessie
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977 [08:18:09] <tom99> jessie (stable) (lisp): simple Emacs interface of w3m
978 [08:18:09] <tom99> 1.4.483+0.20120614-8: all
979 [08:18:09] <tom99> also provided by: w3m-el-snapshot
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981 [08:18:29] <b6s3d> aedinius: ctrl+f chattr replaced-url
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983 [08:19:01] <ransur0t> do you have synaptic installed? if so, search emacs there and ensure all packages you require are checked, then do the install
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985 [08:19:13] <tom99> how do i tell what repo to add to get this? package.debian.org?
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987 [08:20:06] <tom99> well synaptic not found as normal user. but when i switched to root and typed 'synaptic' it started up
988 [08:20:09] <tom99> is that what is expected?
989 [08:20:19] <ransur0t> yes, requires root to run
990 [08:20:30] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, a) need to run "apt-get update" after changing sources.list. b) why don't you put the result of tail -n99 /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* on replaced-url
991 [08:20:31] <ransur0t> your repo's should be all set
992 [08:21:56] <OtakuSenpai> tom99: synaptic or apt both start as root user
993 [08:22:11] <OtakuSenpai> both of them require root privileges
994 [08:22:35] <OtakuSenpai> for changing the packages and the root directory
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996 [08:23:14] <OtakuSenpai> beware of which programs you give your root priveleges btw
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998 [08:23:17] <ransur0t> sudo apt-get update && apt-get install emacs
999 [08:23:20] <tom99> cutmeownthroat: paste.debian.net/783481
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1003 [08:23:46] <tom99> the command is `apt-get install w3m-el`
1004 [08:24:17] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's missing the main repo(s)
1005 [08:24:55] <ransur0t> your sources.list needs the repo entries for jessie-updates main contrib uncommented!
1006 [08:24:55] <tom99> it's a fresh install
1007 [08:25:00] <tom99> what repos is it supposed to have
1008 [08:25:12] <ransur0t> tom99: see my previous comment
1009 [08:25:38] <tom99> it says i didn't select a network mirror during install
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1011 [08:25:50] <tom99> is that why it's not working as expected?
1012 [08:26:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, tell tom99 about jessie sources.list
1013 [08:26:13] <ransur0t> definitely part of it ... as I mentioned earlier, if you had a mirror properly setup during install ...
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1017 [08:26:50] <tom99> i didn't realize that was expected
1018 [08:27:03] <aedinius> b6s3d: chattr for that seems like an xy problem -- it doesn't solve the root issue
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1020 [08:27:08] <ransur0t> no prob man :)
1021 [08:27:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> you have the security.debian.org line, but you're lacking deb replaced-url
1022 [08:27:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> (or deb replaced-url
1023 [08:27:54] <CutMeOwnThroat> up to you if you want the contrib and non-free repositories enabled or not
1024 [08:27:58] <OtakuSenpai> replaced-url
1025 [08:28:09] <OtakuSenpai> heres my source.list....
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1027 [08:28:34] <OtakuSenpai> your should look like this type a too
1028 [08:28:48] <tom99> ah ok i've never seen that httpredir.debian.org/debian url before
1029 [08:28:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> non-free obviously has non-free things, contrib has free software that depends on non-free things in some way
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1031 [08:29:12] <ransur0t> tom99: see replaced-url
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1033 [08:30:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> OtakuSenpai, only you have the repo formerly known as volatile in there twice, one time from denmark servers, one time from US servers
1034 [08:30:29] <b6s3d> aedinius: what do you suggest?
1035 [08:30:50] <aedinius> b6s3d: figure out what's changing the resolv.conf and why
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1037 [08:31:10] <OtakuSenpai> yes i had problems downloading from the denmark servers sometime back,so i added the us ones too
1038 [08:31:20] <b6s3d> how do i add the symbolic link again "chattr -a" ?
1039 [08:31:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, it's some newish thing that automatically gives you the best server from the dns lookup... you're in the US, if it ever gives you problems, use deb replaced-url
1040 [08:31:40] <CutMeOwnThroat> b6s3d, what?
1041 [08:31:51] <aedinius> b6s3d: ignore chattr, it's not the right approach.
1042 [08:31:52] <tom99> ok i added those two lines that dpkg suggested.
1043 [08:31:57] <tom99> gonna run apt-get update, sec
1044 [08:32:20] <b6s3d> i deleted the symbolic link, don't you think i should make it again?
1045 [08:32:35] <tom99> ok thanks cutmeownthroat
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1048 [08:32:53] <aedinius> b6s3d: what symbolic link?
1049 [08:32:53] <CutMeOwnThroat> yw
1050 [08:33:00] <tom99> what's the difference between jessie-updates and jessie/updates?
1051 [08:33:03] <aedinius> /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symbolic link on my machine
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1054 [08:34:45] <b6s3d> "sudo resolvconf -u" = "/etc/resolvconf/update.d/lib: Warning: /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
1055 [08:34:50] <b6s3d> "
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1057 [08:35:36] <aedinius> if you set everything in interfaces then it should automatically set resolv.conf
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1059 [08:35:43] <aedinius> are you getting settings that you shouldn't?
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1061 [08:36:15] <tom99> ok thanks cutmeownthroat
1062 [08:36:24] <tom99> now when I do `apt-get install w3m-el` it finds it and works
1063 [08:36:45] <b6s3d> aedinius: nope, i did " sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" now i want to regret it
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1065 [08:37:37] <OtakuSenpai> chattr is a irc client i suppose,b6s3d
1066 [08:37:42] <aedinius> ... then chattr -i
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1069 [08:37:58] <b6s3d> no, no its not
1070 [08:37:59] <b6s3d> no
1071 [08:38:00] <aedinius> OtakuSenpai: ??
1072 [08:38:09] <OtakuSenpai> no nvr mind thn
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1074 [08:38:13] <b6s3d> stop making no sense
1075 [08:38:15] <b6s3d> no
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1077 [08:38:29] <b6s3d> replaced-url
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1079 [08:40:09] <tom99> ok i don't mean to sound weird here
1080 [08:40:10] <tom99> but
1081 [08:40:22] <tom99> is there a list of common linux software i can tell apt-get to go and download?
1082 [08:40:34] <tom99> I just typed `apt-get install autoconf` and now it's downloading it.... -_-
1083 [08:41:04] <OtakuSenpai> autoconf is a package
1084 [08:41:06] <tom99> at least i don't have to type `apt-get install gcc`
1085 [08:41:17] <OtakuSenpai> for c++ devs i guess
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1088 [08:41:44] <tom99> well yes that's the main reason i downloaded jessie in the first place
1089 [08:42:19] <tom99> to be blunt i expect all this to be installed already so
1090 [08:42:26] <OtakuSenpai> which packages you want,say A n B n C,type apt-get install A B C ...
1091 [08:42:26] <tom99> i mean if i have to install a bunch of stuff ok
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1093 [08:42:33] <tom99> well everything i need for c++
1094 [08:42:37] <tom99> i already did autoconf, cmake
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1096 [08:42:45] <OtakuSenpai> wait
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1098 [08:42:50] <tom99> i just expect those to be install because i clicked most of the boxes on the debian dvd install screen
1099 [08:43:19] <alea123> how can i check why mysql uses 52% of my cpu?
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1101 [08:43:25] <tom99> anyway it's pointless to assign blame now
1102 [08:43:37] <tom99> i guess i just need to figure out what packages i need
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1105 [08:44:26] <Elirips> tom99: try to stick your left thumb into the usb-port: aptitude will then read your mind and install everything you need
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1107 [08:44:58] <alea123> the only thing i found in logs is: postfix/cleanup[474]: warning: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf lookup error for "root@xxxx.xxxx.xx"
1108 [08:45:18] <b6s3d> chattr +i pretty much solved my sudo apt-get problem
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1110 [08:46:07] <OtakuSenpai> you can prune wht you want
1111 [08:46:17] <tom99> lol ok th anks OtakuSenpai
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1134 [08:54:33] <aedinius> b6s3d: it may have worked around a problem that was causing problems with apt ...
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1150 [08:59:34] <alea123> mysql has 52% cpu load and other 48% have apache2 processes... any chance to check why?
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1173 [09:06:37] <Elirips> alea123: seems one of your webpage is running a lot of queries against mysql. You could try to stop apache and check if mysql loads drops to almost 0%. If yes, you only need to identify which page is causing the load
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1184 [09:09:17] <alea123> Elirips: i think its about owncloud. because its one of two sites on the whole server. but i cant check why its so high... it started yesterday... and everytime i restart mysqld apache2 processes will explode with cpu-load. i havent ran any updates or installed apps in the last time, so there cant be a problem with new/updated apps. but i will try to stop apache
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1191 [09:10:38] <alea123> Elirips: yes, if i stop apache2 servers cpu load is at 1%
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1195 [09:11:08] <alea123> if i start apache2 mysqld is exploding to 52%
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1201 [09:12:40] <Elirips> alea123: what do the apache logs say? or try with apachetop to identify what is causing the load, here is a sample: replaced-url
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1204 [09:13:24] <alea123> Elirips: let me take a look at apaches logs
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1208 [09:16:08] <alea123> Elirips: apache access and error logs are fine. nothing strange in it
1209 [09:16:16] <alea123> will try apachetop
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1212 [09:17:20] <Elirips> alea123: also note there is chanel #httpd - maybe the apache experts in there can give you some usefull hints
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1221 [09:23:45] <alea123> Elirips: thanks :) will try in #httpd too... also tried in #owncloud, but no answers till now
1222 [09:23:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, you probably want apt-get install build-essential (if you want to build programs)
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1224 [09:26:00] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, and for any package "packagename", that is already in debian, you can install the build dependencies with apt-get build-dep packagename
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1246 [09:36:31] <alea123> Elirips: current server status htop: replaced-url
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1249 [09:41:26] <fsociety[00]dat> I am user in group "sudo" and sudoers file says allow member of group sudo but it returns with user not in sudoers file.
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1251 [09:43:12] <fsociety[00]dat> What is the problem?
1252 [09:43:14] <ransur0t> logout/login
1253 [09:43:19] <fsociety[00]dat> did it
1254 [09:43:19] <ransur0t> or reboot
1255 [09:43:22] <fsociety[00]dat> did it
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1258 [09:44:23] <ransur0t> hmm, are you editihg directly on sudoers file, or using desktop gui for users?
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1260 [09:44:55] <fsociety[00]dat> EDITOR=nano visudo
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1264 [09:45:39] <ransur0t> paste content?
1265 [09:45:41] <fsociety[00]dat> only uncomment the "allow group sudo..."
1266 [09:45:43] <fsociety[00]dat> ok
1267 [09:45:46] <eitzei> Does that row on the sudoers file start with % ? I have deleted that once
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1272 [09:46:42] <fsociety[00]dat> replaced-url
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1276 [09:47:44] <centurion18> !nodm
1277 [09:47:44] <dpkg> Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (replaced-url
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1279 [09:48:27] <ransur0t> fsociety[00]dat: sorry, my access is blocked to that paste site. perhaps paste.debian ...
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1283 [09:50:14] <fsociety[00]dat> replaced-url
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1287 [09:50:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, there should be log messages in apache... if not in error log, then in access log...
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1291 [09:51:41] <ransur0t> fsociety[00]dat: thanks. looks like you've just allowed any user part of sudo group to execute any command (rather than a command by command basis).
1292 [09:51:50] <ransur0t> so you still need to add yourself to the sudo group
1293 [09:52:31] <fsociety[00]dat> ransur0t, cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner bluetooth
1294 [09:52:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> although... one request every 10 seconds according to apachetop
1295 [09:53:10] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: there are only default access entries .. rly nothing special... i checked the access.log twice. error.log is clearly empty, only a few entries from my install in march
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1298 [09:54:41] <ransur0t> hmm, strange. so output of <username> sudo lists you?
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1300 [09:55:29] <fsociety[00]dat> yep
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1304 [09:57:19] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, hm, actually look in normal logs (/var/log/messages, dmesg)
1305 [09:57:20] <fsociety[00]dat> ransur0t, I add the use like "adduser <username> sudo"
1306 [09:57:26] <fsociety[00]dat> *user
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1311 [09:58:09] <ransur0t> yeah, seems like everything should be ok, unless there is a higher level user/group permission in place
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1315 [10:00:50] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: hm thanks... i think i got it... too many sql connections from froxlor
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1318 [10:01:19] <alea123> froxlor[7735]: SQLSTATE[08004] [1040] Too many connections
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1321 [10:01:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> what's froxlor
1322 [10:02:38] <alea123> a webapplication of my hoster to manage customers in webspaces
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1325 [10:03:25] <alea123> but also in their forums i am the only one with this problem :/
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1328 [10:04:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> ask the mysql server what it's busy with... replaced-url
1329 [10:05:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> also... disk error messages would maybe make sense
1330 [10:05:23] <CutMeOwnThroat> if mysql threads hang trying to write...
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1336 [10:08:36] <CutMeOwnThroat> how many sql connections is it configured to anyway
1337 [10:08:49] <CutMeOwnThroat> could try increasing the number
1338 [10:09:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, what does df -h show?
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1346 [10:15:01] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: size: 229G, used: 73G, available: 145G, use%: 34%
1347 [10:15:23] <CutMeOwnThroat> there's only one disk?
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1349 [10:16:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> oh well. if the disk mysql writes things to was simply full...
1350 [10:17:00] <alea123> rootfs, udev, tmpfs, /dev/foo/bar/, tmpfs, tmpfs... its a vserver
1351 [10:17:07] <alea123> but it isnt full
1352 [10:17:21] <CutMeOwnThroat> not >90% either?
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1354 [10:17:34] <alea123> used in %: 34%
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1356 [10:18:19] <CutMeOwnThroat> seems the only interesting command from that jetprofiler page is "show processes"
1357 [10:18:24] <alea123> diskspace: 229G ... used diskspace: 73G ... available free diskspace: 145G
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1360 [10:19:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> time for me to go. good luck
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1364 [10:20:19] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: thanks anyway :)
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1403 [10:51:33] <afx_> Hello ! How can I have my machine act as ntp server ? I have installed ntp (aptitude ntp) . Is there any special configuration I have to make to act as ntp server?
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1415 [10:55:15] <imint> #debian
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1418 [10:57:39] <afx_> Do I need the ntp-server package too ?
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1497 [11:41:20] <afx_> hello ! How can I setup my debian box to act as an ntp server . I have installed ntp ( w. aptitude ntp ). Do I have to make any special configuration for this? Also how can I view the ntp clients connected to my machine
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1499 [11:43:19] <koollman> afx_: I think it is : ntpdc -c monlist
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1501 [11:44:00] <ransur0t> afx_: give these references a look: replaced-url
1502 [11:46:11] <afx_> k will try that
1503 [11:46:15] <afx_> thank you both
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1505 [11:46:21] <ransur0t> yw
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1510 [11:46:51] <saunamees> Anyone tested ssh tunneled nfs / encrypted nfs against sshfs ?
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1518 [11:53:14] <SynrGy> saunamees: my limited experience with tunnels and filesystems is that each layer adds considerable overhead/latency, and generally leads to a poor experience.
1519 [11:53:42] <SynrGy> saunamees: i cannot speak for these specific combinations, but it sounds like something i wouldn't want to try :)
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1528 [12:00:41] <BadPractice> hi, i tried to get docker running with aufs on debian jessie with aufs. How to get aufs running
1529 [12:00:47] <BadPractice> ?
1530 [12:01:54] <SynrGy> i'm not sure what you mean. can you be more specific? also, be aware that aufs is no longer present in stretch, nor in a jessie-backports kernel.
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1532 [12:02:23] <BadPractice> SynrGy: and how should i get docker running then?
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1534 [12:02:25] <SynrGy> so going forward, you need to consider your migration strategy, rather than building on a technology that will soon be replaced.
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1537 [12:02:42] <SynrGy> i can't help with docker. i merely repeat to you what i know about aufs.
1538 [12:03:09] <SynrGy> also, your question lacks the precision needed for others here that do know about docker to assist.
1539 [12:03:17] <BadPractice> SynrGy: this is so wired. Docker needs it. Modern server need docker and it gets thrown out of debian?
1540 [12:03:30] <SynrGy> not "thrown out of debian" ...
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1542 [12:03:38] <SynrGy> upstream (the linux kernel) dropped it a long time ago
1543 [12:03:50] <SynrGy> debian kept it via patches for much longer than upstream did.
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1545 [12:04:06] <SynrGy> in stretch aufs *finally* gets dropped, after keeping it going for as long as they could
1546 [12:04:17] <SynrGy> (they == debian kernel maintainers)
1547 [12:04:28] <BadPractice> SynrGy: well in that case i probably should not build a system depending on it?
1548 [12:04:30] <SynrGy> it is superseded by overlayfs
1549 [12:04:44] <SynrGy> i'm not saying you shouldn't. i'm saying its a consideration.
1550 [12:04:51] <SynrGy> depending on your *exact* problem, it may be relevant.
1551 [12:04:54] <SynrGy> or may not
1552 [12:05:01] <SynrGy> i still haven't heard a precise problem statement.
1553 [12:05:17] <SynrGy> !doesn't work
1554 [12:05:17] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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1556 [12:06:45] <BadPractice> SynrGy: well thats basically what docker tould me as error message "does not work" but i found more gimme a sec
1557 [12:07:18] <saunamees> SynrGy: How would you do a web app that has to securely transfer files to remote server ? So web app is inside a different network/lan than remote server
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1559 [12:07:51] <saunamees> I thought mounting remote server would be the best, but maybe there are some other ways
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1561 [12:08:26] <SynrGy> saunamees: i am using sshfs by itself for that purpose in one case.
1562 [12:08:45] <SynrGy> saunamees: why would you want to use it in combination with another filesystem? or did i not understand the question exactly?
1563 [12:08:54] <saunamees> how is the performance ? 100Mb/s is quaranteed
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1565 [12:09:22] <saunamees> well web app is inside a private network, remote server is accessible from all web
1566 [12:09:28] <saunamees> so basically file sharing
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1575 [12:13:38] <SynrGy> saunamees: i have no figures on this. and it would very per situation anyway. it is what i would call "adequate to my needs"
1576 [12:13:43] <SynrGy> i didn't measure
1577 [12:14:28] <SynrGy> for bulk transfers it is fine. less satisfactory is situations where quite a number of file accesses are required (e.g. locating a git or svn workspace on sshfs)
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1580 [12:14:38] <saunamees> are there any other options that I should look ?
1581 [12:14:43] <SynrGy> for a workaround for that, i'm using sshfsexec
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1584 [12:15:12] <saunamees> I was looking at Ceph, openAFS, MooseFS, GlusterFS. Not sure how they work yet, but they are distributed fs-s.
1585 [12:15:15] <SynrGy> i haven't done a thorough survey of the options. sshfs is the one i know about.
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1587 [12:15:30] <saunamees> okay, thanks
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1598 [12:21:03] <BadPractice> SynrGy: you have any idea how to get aufs up and running on jessie?
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1716 [13:26:16] <nuke_> Hi, just instaled fresh Debian (stabile), try to open libreoffice and get /libsclo.so> failed.
1717 [13:26:35] <nuke_> somone know that error?
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1719 [13:27:14] <jelly> nuke_, can you pastebin or screenshot the whole output?
1720 [13:27:16] <jelly> !paste
1721 [13:27:16] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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1726 [13:28:32] <nuke_> replaced-url
1727 [13:28:55] <teraflops> nuke_: how did you install libreoffice?
1728 [13:29:00] <nuke_> for libreoffice 4.3.3.2
1729 [13:29:12] <nuke_> by apt-get
1730 [13:29:13] <teraflops> that's not what I asked
1731 [13:29:15] <teraflops> ah
1732 [13:30:02] <teraflops> nuke_: and did you get any errors during the apt-get install?
1733 [13:30:07] <ransur0t> nuke_: most likely a dependency version conflict
1734 [13:30:29] <nuke_> didn't seen any
1735 [13:30:38] <ransur0t> i ran into something similar with a plugin for vlc. had to build the plugin myself and copy over the .so
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1737 [13:31:04] <teraflops> nuke_: mind pasting the exact apt command you ran?
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1740 [13:31:33] <nuke_> # apt-get install libreoffice
1741 [13:31:34] <teraflops> nuke_: also did you apt-get update before installing libreoffice?
1742 [13:31:40] <nuke_> yes
1743 [13:32:00] <teraflops> nuke_: tried just reinstalling it?
1744 [13:32:05] <nuke_> yes
1745 [13:32:16] <nuke_> purge also
1746 [13:32:25] <teraflops> ok looks like I have no idea whats going on there
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1748 [13:32:47] <nuke_> I also XD
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1750 [13:33:32] <teraflops> nuke_: mind pasting your sources.list to replaced-url
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1755 [13:35:13] <teraflops> sorry pastefail^ replaced-url
1756 [13:35:25] <Iridos> what is the command that leads to that error?
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1758 [13:35:46] <Iridos> I'd have much preferred one paste that shows the command run and the error
1759 [13:36:15] <nuke_> replaced-url
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1761 [13:37:02] <Iridos> that's ok
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1763 [13:37:48] <teraflops> nuke_: yeah what do you run? paste the whole thing as jelly and Iridos suggested
1764 [13:38:00] <nuke_> only when I whant to open calc/writer file I get GUI error
1765 [13:38:25] <nuke_> even strace didnt get error
1766 [13:38:41] <ransur0t> run it from command line and take a look at output upon failiure
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1768 [13:38:48] <nuke_> replaced-url
1769 [13:39:21] <nuke_> ransur0t: It havent got error in comand line
1770 [13:39:41] <ransur0t> hmmm
1771 [13:39:50] <nuke_> libreoffice --writer get no answer in comand line
1772 [13:39:50] <teraflops> also replaced-url
1773 [13:39:51] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1775 [13:41:16] <teraflops> not sure if related but it's the same lib
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1785 [13:49:43] <nuke_> teraflops: not find something interesting in emails
1786 [13:50:03] <jelly> nuke_: alright, can you try: "/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice --calc" from a terminal
1787 [13:50:25] <jelly> does it open successfully?
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1789 [13:50:47] <jelly> (with a new window with an empty document)
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1792 [13:52:23] <nuke_> a
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1794 [13:52:32] <nuke_> failed
1795 [13:52:47] <nuke_> that same problem
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1801 [13:58:13] <teraflops> nuke_: I have *** 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u4 here I'm apt-get upgrading for getting 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u5 and see if it fails, also what's the ooutput of apt-cache policy libreoffice-calc there?
1802 [13:58:15] <jelly> good.
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1805 [13:58:48] <jelly> nuke_: are there any leftover libreoffice processes already running? ps -fe |grep soffice
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1809 [14:00:18] <nuke_> $ ps -fe |grep soffice
1810 [14:00:18] <nuke_> nuke 4350 4342 0 13:59 pts/2 00:00:00 grep soffice
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1818 [14:02:34] <nuke_> replaced-url
1819 [14:02:38] <nuke_> for cache
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1822 [14:04:08] <teraflops> yeah that's fine according to your sources list
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1853 [14:19:32] <teraflops> nuke_: no idea it opens fine usinf the same version as you do, I have no idea whats going on there, if you say you already tried apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-calc even deleting the package from cache so apt gets it from the internet again
1854 [14:19:52] <teraflops> using*
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1858 [14:22:33] <LAL> Hi everyone, I am new to this organization and I would like to contribute please help. Thank you
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1861 [14:23:08] <Iamnotgeorgebush> see... my zodiac sign is pisces with ascendant pisces. very rare constellation... anyone in here who can read my chart?
1862 [14:24:17] <Iamnotgeorgebush> I maybe give you money from hacked paypal account if you can help me
1863 [14:24:18] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, did the ops check you yet
1864 [14:24:39] <Iamnotgeorgebush> what ops
1865 [14:24:50] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, the channel ops
1866 [14:25:00] <Iamnotgeorgebush> I don't know, you have to ask them
1867 [14:25:06] <bazhang> this is ##windows Iamnotgeorgebush
1868 [14:25:20] <Iamnotgeorgebush> i thought this was #debian
1869 [14:25:25] <bazhang> or #debian now
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1871 [14:25:33] <Iamnotgeorgebush> wat
1872 [14:25:44] <bazhang> you just spammed up ##windows, my bad
1873 [14:26:03] <Iamnotgeorgebush> spammed? I just want someone to read my astrological chart, as I am to stupid to do it
1874 [14:26:24] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, thats really not topical here at all
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1877 [14:26:50] <Iamnotgeorgebush> there is no topic for it on freenode. you have to help me. the life of billions depends on it
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1879 [14:27:22] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, lets call the ops and let them clear this up
1880 [14:27:32] <Iamnotgeorgebush> okay
1881 [14:27:36] <Elirips> Iamnotgeorgebush: why?
1882 [14:27:40] <Iamnotgeorgebush> thank you
1883 [14:28:03] <Iamnotgeorgebush> because I'm the chosen one. you don't have to believe me. I just want someone to read my chart if possible
1884 [14:28:24] <Elirips> Iamnotgeorgebush: What do you think Robin Williams is doing today?
1885 [14:28:32] <Iamnotgeorgebush> cocaine
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1890 [14:29:23] <Iamnotgeorgebush> why do you ask? Elirips
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1896 [14:31:57] <Iamnotgeorgebush> poor guy. had parkinsons, dementia and depression.
1897 [14:32:11] <Iamnotgeorgebush> one of them is hard enough but all three...
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1931 [14:43:31] <Iridos> oh well
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1976 [15:10:32] <cnu-> when i run reportbug it says that a newer version is available in stretch and unstable. does this mean i should upgrade my debian?
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1978 [15:11:34] <Sicelo> or it means newer version of reportbug? i think this is more likely
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1981 [15:12:13] <abrotman> cnu-: yes
1982 [15:12:50] <cnu-> ok so jessie is no longer supported?
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2041 [15:41:14] <iamawesome> Hi, how can change the position of gnome panel?
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2043 [15:41:21] <iamawesome> From bottom to right side
2044 [15:41:26] <iamawesome> It's gnome classic
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2064 [15:49:16] <FinalX> running jessie and breaking my head over statd not starting before nfs mounts are done; then later it gets started (I guess with the next network interface), but NFS mounts are not tried again. Bug reports galore, but no real mentioned fix. Seems to do with me creating a bridge interface (br0) in /etc/network/interfaces, and eth0.61 being set to "manual", if I revert to just the eth0.61 interface and put th
2065 [15:49:22] <FinalX> e IP config on there (and ditch the bridge), all works well :|
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2068 [15:49:47] <FinalX> I *could* just put 'mount -a' in /etc/rc.local, but that's far from elegant :P
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2090 [15:58:52] <troulouliou_div2> !lenny source.list
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2092 [15:59:07] <troulouliou_div2> !squeeze sources.list
2093 [15:59:07] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb replaced-url
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2095 [15:59:22] <Pied_> Who was the last person to talk to me, I missed their message
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2099 [16:00:49] <Guest_____> i have a wierd question but its bugging me so much: I lost the name for this (program? tool?) which included uboot i think, ( i want to research it, but i dont know the name, i dont know what it does..)
2100 [16:01:06] <unborn> hi guys.. recently ive noticed that tacker-store and tracker-miner-fs and tracker-extract eating nearly 90% of my cpu - how to disable that?
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2102 [16:02:05] <Guest_____> i think the program is similar to buildroot, but the name was very exotic sounding and not related to anything
2103 [16:02:10] <unborn> after few minutes just traker-store is running at 60% cpu
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2105 [16:03:02] <teraflops> unborn: /etc/xdg/autostart iirc
2106 [16:03:32] <unborn> teraflops: bash: /etc/xdg/autostart: Is a directory
2107 [16:03:49] <teraflops> unborn: yeah good catch! did you look inside?
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2110 [16:04:45] <unborn> yeah
2111 [16:04:46] <unborn> im in
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2113 [16:04:57] <unborn> what I am looking for? - got pletny of files there
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2118 [16:05:37] <unborn> tracker-store.desktop?
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2122 [16:06:25] <teraflops> isn't that obvious that things there are auto started ?
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2126 [16:07:31] <unborn> teraflops: it is of course but what that tracker do ? just indexing files?
2127 [16:07:40] <teraflops> i guess so
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2130 [16:08:07] <Dongyancai> Hello, I followed the instructions in replaced-url
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2142 [16:10:16] <unborn> okay, problem solved :) changed the way how much it does indexing.. thanks teraflops
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2145 [16:11:15] <teraflops> np
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2163 [16:23:51] <meretrix> Is there anywhere I can just download a minimal Debian image into which I can chroot?
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2182 [16:33:08] <jamiejackson> how do i work around this? replaced-url
2183 [16:33:35] <jamiejackson> (that's during `apt-get update`, btw)
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2194 [16:37:17] <TomTomTosch> jamiejackson: httpredir has some issues sometimes. pick a mirror from replaced-url
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2196 [16:37:45] <jamiejackson> okay, thanks, TomTomTosch
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2220 [16:47:36] <Nasha> Kernel-RT faster regular Kernel for KVM?
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2224 [16:48:56] <Nasha> And on mech?
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2255 [17:00:25] <mekeor> i'm trying to build and install sddm-config-editor from source (replaced-url
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2260 [17:05:00] <mekeor> i have all packages installed which are listed by "apt-file find qqmlapplicationengine" or "apt-file find QQmlApplicationEngine"
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2266 [17:06:58] <jelly> mekeor, I'm still waiting for the paste to open, but the wild guess would be you're missing some -dev package, or it's not the version author(s) expected
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2268 [17:07:41] <jelly> possibly it's a qt5 code not qt4
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2271 [17:07:52] <miesco> Hi How do I type keys without my fingers?
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2274 [17:09:24] <jelly> mekeor, what happens if you install qt5-qmake instead and use that qmake?
2275 [17:09:41] <jelly> miesco, what do you mean?
2276 [17:09:48] <miesco> jelly: I figured it out
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2278 [17:09:59] <mekeor> jelly: i already have installed both qt4- and qt5-qmake
2279 [17:10:05] <miesco> jelly: xdotool key LETTERS
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2282 [17:11:00] <jelly> mekeor, alright, what if you explicitely call /usr/lib/*/qt5/bin/qmake
2283 [17:11:11] <mekeor> jelly: qmake --version says it's version 4.*.
2284 [17:12:16] <mekeor> jelly: btw, is qtchooser a tool to switch the version of qt used? i'm imagining qtchooser to be something like in "qtchooser 5 qmake" or so :D
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2290 [17:12:47] <jelly> I have no idea, sorry
2291 [17:13:23] <jelly> surely it has a manual?
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2295 [17:14:05] <mekeor> jelly: YEAH, you were right! it worked! thank you!
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2302 [17:18:16] <careta> I want to have a directory with files that when execute assume a group's gid (sgid), but I also want new files to belong to that group and have the sgid bit set when they are created. How can I do that?
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2304 [17:20:33] <jelly> careta: only compiled binaries can have setgid on linux, scripts can't
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2309 [17:21:30] <jelly> and there's no simple way to have setgid enabled by default for new files, you'd have to add it via inotify or the stupid way via a cron job
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2313 [17:22:02] <careta> that sucks
2314 [17:22:11] <jelly> careta, only "new files to belong to that group " can be done easily
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2319 [17:22:30] <careta> I have some software I need to contain network wise, and I have an iptables rule to block connectivity to the internet from that group
2320 [17:22:38] <careta> local network is ok, but no internet
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2322 [17:22:59] <careta> but I also want any files created by that software to be limited in terms of network connectivity
2323 [17:23:09] <jelly> perhaps network namespaces would be a better fit than groups.
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2327 [17:24:03] <jelly> (google for linux network namespaces, and ip netns)
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2331 [17:25:30] <careta> I see, thanks!
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2333 [17:26:20] <jelly> ask in #netfilter too
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2382 [17:55:57] <afx_> Hello! I am trying to mount a network drive under with this :sudo mount -t cifs -o username=uname,password=pswd,uid=username //ip/folder /media/folder . I am getting mount error(6): No such device or address . What could be wrong?
2383 [17:57:02] <Iridos> Maybe there's no such device or address?
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2388 [17:58:38] <Iridos> I generally found it simpler to debug samba problems with smbclient
2389 [17:58:38] <jelly> afx_: 1) does /media/folder exist? 2) does smbclient -L ip show the /folder share?
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2394 [17:59:48] <afx_> jelly: 1)yes 2) Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth = no' or 'client ntlmv2 auth = yes' tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
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2397 [18:00:15] <afx_> I can navigate through to the networkd folder through nautilus though , jelly
2398 [18:00:33] <jelly> afx_, provide username and password to smbclient as needed
2399 [18:00:46] <afx_> ok let me check
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2401 [18:01:03] <jelly> which OS on the server side?
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2407 [18:01:41] <SynrGy> also could fail if the domain isn't specified and needs to be.
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2410 [18:02:08] <nod3> hey all! I had an existing raid1 array (BIOS/Intel) and was working fine on jessie. I did a fresh install last night without touching the array and now the array won't show up. Here is /proc/mdstat: replaced-url
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2412 [18:02:14] <nod3> lems? I tried numerous posts online on attaching existing array on a fresh install to no avail
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2418 [18:04:15] <afx_> jelly: what username and password shall I provide to smbclient ? local or remote?
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2420 [18:04:48] <Iridos> ah yes... just tried myself, haven't used smbclient in ages... I can do this and get access: /usr/bin/smbclient --user "myuser" //full.domain.name/data
2421 [18:05:04] <Iridos> the user/password for the smb share, of course
2422 [18:05:14] <afx_> Iridos: ok
2423 [18:05:15] <jelly> afx_, the same as for the share?
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2427 [18:05:58] <jelly> oh, if it's samba on both ends then it's supposed to work I guess
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2431 [18:06:43] <ikla> does grub2 offer a shell while booted in linux like legacy grub?
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2444 [18:10:33] <afx_> jelly: with smbclient -L -U "uname" -I //192.x.x.x/folder I get nothing
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2447 [18:11:52] <SynrGy> what is the domain/workgroup name of the server vs. the domain name/workgroup of the client?
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2449 [18:12:25] <SynrGy> if they differ, you also need to specify the domain name, both to smbclient and to mount
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2452 [18:12:52] <afx_> SynrGy: don't think there is a domain specified on the server
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2456 [18:13:40] <SynrGy> [global] workgroup = ?
2457 [18:13:41] <afx_> but let me check first
2458 [18:13:41] <SynrGy> no?
2459 [18:13:59] <SynrGy> see smbclient -W option
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2463 [18:14:58] <Iridos> afx_, -I takes a separate IP if you have a netname in //192.x.x.x/folder that doesn't itself resolve
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2466 [18:15:30] <sine0> I have my first ssd drive in my laptop. do i have to make any special allowances for it in my debian install im going to do
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2468 [18:16:09] <Iridos> so I think that should either be smbclient -L -U user //192.x.x.x/folder --or-- smbclient -L -U user -I 192.168.3.4 //somename/folder
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2470 [18:17:16] <Iridos> sine0, I didn't... maybe did some generous alignment and check it with google
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2472 [18:18:06] <Iridos> so far, it seems to have been ok
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2476 [18:18:58] <sine0> ok cool, should not be a problem i dont think
2477 [18:19:01] <afx_> SynrGy: its WORKGROUP
2478 [18:19:03] <Iridos> can't remember, except that I did it all within an hour or so because I had just bought it and was flying overseas... the next day or so...
2479 [18:19:06] <afx_> on the server
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2482 [18:20:15] <Iridos> sine0, and I chose encrypted lvm for the laptop... so far that also ran without problem
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2490 [18:22:19] <SynrGy> afx_: vs. on the client?
2491 [18:22:40] <afx_> Iridos: tried with the second folder , still nothing
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2501 [18:24:49] <afx_> SynrGy: its also WORKGROUP
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2519 [18:32:06] <vlt> Hello. What is the recommended way to install GRUB on current stable? replaced-url
2520 [18:32:24] <greycat> grub-efi for EFI boxes, grub-pc for not
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2524 [18:33:51] <vlt> greycat: Thanks.
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2530 [18:37:43] <vlt> I installed grub-efi, ran `grub-install /dev/md126` and got "grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory."
2531 [18:38:43] <vlt> There’s /usr/lib/grub/i386-xen/modinfo.sh
2532 [18:39:03] * vlt reads man grub-install
2533 [18:39:30] <greycat> /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh is in the grub-pc-bin package (not the -efi stuff)
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2539 [18:42:28] <vlt> When specifying --directory I get these errors: replaced-url
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2541 [18:42:54] <jhutchins> afx_: Just on a whim, try putting the -o section after the share/mountpoint section.
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2547 [18:44:29] <vlt> Am I doing it wrong? Is grub-install (whch came with grub2-common) not the right tool for grub-efi?
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2549 [18:45:43] <greycat> You mentioned xen. You also mentioned /dev/md126 which is just baffling and frankly a bit frightening. Is your thing that you are booting a virtual machine of some kind? If so, does this virtual machine boot using (virtual) EFI or (virtual) BIOS?
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2553 [18:48:10] <SynrGy> afx_: issue with the netname, then? just a guess. i think someone already mentioned this.
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2557 [18:48:40] <afx_> net lookup resolves the name
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2559 [18:48:53] <SynrGy> why aren't you using the netname?
2560 [18:49:12] <vlt> greycat: Thank you for your time. I’ll explain: I want to install Debian as a xen dom0 (host) and replace an older Ubuntu. /dev/md126 is the device that later is mounted to /boot. This is running in a chroot with bind-mounted /dev.
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2564 [18:49:41] <vlt> greycat: But maybe I should try to install grub directly to /dev/sda (and sdb) instead.
2565 [18:49:44] <vlt> greycat: brb
2566 [18:49:44] <afx_> I try to reboot and check again !
2567 [18:49:47] <afx_> thank you all
2568 [18:49:49] <SynrGy> i would normally specify //netname/dirname in my fstab
2569 [18:50:08] <afx_> ok
2570 [18:50:13] <afx_> will try that too
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2572 [18:51:13] <vlt> greycat: No, I get the same errors for /dev/sda. This used to be sooo easy in previous versions ... hmmmm. Maybe I’ll try grub-pc instead.
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2577 [18:53:33] <greycat> You really kinda have to know whether your machine is booting via EFI or BIOS.
2578 [18:53:46] <greycat> Does your boot disk have an EFI partition?
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2584 [18:56:16] <vlt> greycat: No, it doesn’t. I made the mistake of choosing grub-efi because I thought the PC supports EFI. Currently it boots GRUB and I think it should stay that way.
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2586 [18:56:43] <greycat> Right. A box without an EFI partition is going to necessarily be booting in BIOS mode even if the machine could also support UEFI booting.
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2590 [18:57:37] <vlt> greycat: I just tried to replace the current grub(v2) which came with Ubuntu in 2012 with a "more recent" grub from Debian.
2591 [18:58:07] <vlt> greycat: Maybe I should do that once that new Debian is actually running :-D
2592 [18:58:21] <greycat> Use grub-pc since you don't have an EFI partition and therefore can't boot in (U)EFI mode.
2593 [18:58:54] <greycat> Plenty of systems that are capable of either one are still configured to boot in BIOS mode, for lots of possible reasons.
2594 [18:58:55] <vlt> For now I’ll just edit grub.cfg to point to the new root fs and then try again. Thanks so far!
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2601 [19:04:06] <Iridos> how'd you see the system can do uefi? some bios option?
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2603 [19:04:44] <greycat> Yeah, that'd be one way.
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2605 [19:05:07] <greycat> Or it might have shipped with a disk that originally had an EFI partition, but you wiped it out, etc.
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2627 [19:15:37] <nod3> has anyone here been in this situation: md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sdc[1] sdd[0]
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2630 [19:16:06] <nod3> I've tried mdadm --readwrite /dev/md126 to no avail
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2633 [19:16:20] * greycat does a /whois nod3 and a /whois vlt
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2635 [19:16:33] <greycat> I... don't get it. Is "md126" a common thing in Ubuntuspace?
2636 [19:16:33] <nod3> not the same person hehe
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2639 [19:16:51] <nod3> this is #debian is it not? heh...
2640 [19:16:53] <greycat> Who the hell has one hundred twenty-six software RAID volumes?
2641 [19:17:08] <greycat> Why do TWO people have that many? EXACTLY that many?
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2643 [19:17:23] <nod3> dunno. as I wrote earlier I had an existing raid1 array, I did a fresh install and mdadm reports that now
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2645 [19:17:51] <nod3> this raid1 array is just a data partition nothing to do with the OS itself..
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2650 [19:18:10] <nod3> the array was done through BIOS/Intel it was working prior to the fresh install
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2656 [19:22:11] <plasmoduck> I need help setting up a mail server, I'm running phpbb3, so I need to setup a mailserver so when users register I get an email to activate their account.
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2659 [19:22:58] <axc1298> i tried to install a package with dpkg -i and it had unmet dependencies. however the package is somehow partially installed. i try to remove it with apt-get remove and get /var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm 7: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm: update-desktop-database: not found dpkg: error processing package mypackage (--remove): subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127
2660 [19:23:01] <nod3> greycat: I don't have 126 raid volumes, the system is automatically naming them that way.
2661 [19:23:05] <axc1298> what should i do?
2662 [19:23:18] <nod3> axc1298: try apt-get install -f
2663 [19:23:37] <nod3> it should help resolve the dependencies and finish installing the package...
2664 [19:23:42] <axc1298> nod3: same error when i try that
2665 [19:23:56] <axc1298> i want to remove the package, so that i can install the dependencies first then re-install it
2666 [19:24:04] <axc1298> i am unable to install anything right now however
2667 [19:24:16] <greycat> axc1298: You mixed stable and testing? Or stable and unstable? Or you used an overly intrusive third party repository and then removed it?
2668 [19:24:17] <plasmoduck> I own a domain name can I use that for the mail server?
2669 [19:24:19] <axc1298> apt-get install -f tried to remove the package and fails
2670 [19:24:31] <dikabo> I have a question related to RS232/serial connection and agetty. I try to log in a laptop with Debian 8.5 from windows with putty over a RS232/serial cable. In my case it is necessary to start agetty _after_ putty to get a login. If putty is started when agetty is already running, there seems to be no connection. Any suggestions?
2671 [19:24:34] <axc1298> greycat: no. i tried to install a deb built for stable but it isn't in stable repos
2672 [19:24:44] <Iridos> greycat, our redhat boxes have md122-md127 and nothing else
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2675 [19:25:12] <T4ng10r> hi
2676 [19:25:30] <Iridos> greycat, I think it's counting downwards from 127
2677 [19:25:43] <greycat> axc1298: was it built for *jessie*, or for some indeterminate "stable" from who-knows-what-year?
2678 [19:25:53] <T4ng10r> how to solve this kind of dependency problem - replaced-url
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2680 [19:26:36] <axc1298> greycat: jessie. the dependencies are both in jessie and this works on my other stable machine. i just forgot to install the dependencies manually before doing dpkg -i this time
2681 [19:26:42] <T4ng10r> i need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2682 [19:27:01] <greycat> axc1298: sounds like you should install those dependencies by hand, then
2683 [19:27:04] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: your domain nam registrar should provide a methode to set resource records. the mx record is meant to point to the mail server.
2684 [19:27:32] <Iridos> axc1298, you have to fix the postrm script
2685 [19:27:36] <axc1298> greycat: unfortunately i can't. if i try and apt-get install anything right now, i am getting that error. it tries to remove the broken package
2686 [19:27:56] <greycat> NOT WITH APT_GET
2687 [19:27:59] <greycat> I said by hand.
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2689 [19:28:06] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: okay sweet, but what do I have to do on my box?
2690 [19:28:10] <greycat> With dpkg -i. And wget. Or other web agent of your choice.
2691 [19:28:20] <axc1298> Iridos: ok i'll try to open it up and see what it looks like
2692 [19:28:23] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: install a mail server and configure it.
2693 [19:28:25] <Iridos> dpkg, tell axc1298 about postrm
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2695 [19:28:58] <axc1298> Iridos: greycat: will try those. thanks
2696 [19:29:03] <axc1298> i will edit the script first
2697 [19:29:21] <Iridos> axc1298, try to fix the bug... or at least see what it is... something makes the script exit with an error... as the factoid told you in a private message, you can just write "exit 0" to the begin of the script...
2698 [19:29:23] <plasmoduck> which one?
2699 [19:29:23] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: that's what I'm asking, what to install and how to configure it, can you point me to a url or something please?
2700 [19:29:46] <Iridos> then it'll exit "successful" (but whatever it was supposed to do obviously stays not done)
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2702 [19:30:23] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: that's not so trivial. you can read up on postfix or a mailserver of your choice.
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2713 [19:32:55] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: I've never had much luck setting up mailservers in the past, I know they can be quite tricky.
2714 [19:33:13] <axc1298> Iridos: thanks i think i know what to do now
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2716 [19:33:44] <abrotman> They're not tricky, they're tricky to make work correctly :)
2717 [19:34:01] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: reading is the mother of all skills.
2718 [19:34:06] <plasmoduck> abrotman: thanks for clarifying that
2719 [19:34:14] <abrotman> heh
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2721 [19:34:41] <abrotman> plasmoduck: the postfix.org site has a bunch of great starter howtos, and a pretty good set of docs
2722 [19:35:09] <plasmoduck> usually my email ends up getting sucked into some black hole in some alternate universe and I never receive it.
2723 [19:35:33] <plasmoduck> abrotman: cheers, I'll check it out now ;-)
2724 [19:36:20] <Iridos> axc1298, this is maybe a bit an annoying feature, but it is by design... if the install scripts don't work, dpkg just refuses to continue to do anything until you fix it
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2728 [19:37:46] <T4ng10r> how to solve this kind of dependency problem - replaced-url
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2732 [19:39:50] <Iridos> why are you installing with dpkg and trying to resolve dependencies manually anyway
2733 [19:39:52] <Iridos> that's what apt is for
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2738 [19:40:23] <greycat> He installed some not-in-a-repository .deb file.
2739 [19:40:41] <greycat> By hand. But then didn't install the dependencies by hand to match.
2740 [19:41:24] <Iridos> judd, versions libtag1c2a
2741 [19:41:25] <judd> Package: libtag1c2a on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.6.3-1; wheezy: 1.7.2-1; wheezy-multimedia: 1.8-dmo1; wheezy-backports: 1.9.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.1-2.1
2742 [19:41:36] <T4ng10r> I had app which requires gstreamer0.10 to make sound work, but debian testing had only gstreamer1.0 and part of gstreamer0.10
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2745 [19:42:03] <Iridos> what version of debian are you using
2746 [19:42:06] <T4ng10r> most of them had installed successfuly, but plugins-good failed due to above problem
2747 [19:42:15] <T4ng10r> currently I have testing
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2750 [19:42:40] <Iridos> judd, versions gstreamer0.10
2751 [19:42:42] <judd> No package named 'gstreamer0.10' was found in amd64.
2752 [19:43:36] <abrotman> that's like .. squeeze?
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2754 [19:43:46] <T4ng10r> apt-cache search --names-only gstreamer0.10 -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2755 [19:44:02] <abrotman> judd: versions gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2756 [19:44:03] <judd> Package: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.10.24-1; wheezy: 0.10.31-3+nmu1; jessie: 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
2757 [19:44:14] <abrotman> T4ng10r: and which versoin of Debian are you on?
2758 [19:44:30] <Iridos> testing, look two lines above :)
2759 [19:44:35] <T4ng10r> apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-plugins-good -> 500 replaced-url
2760 [19:44:49] <T4ng10r> I mean - in testing there NO gstreamer0.10
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2763 [19:44:57] <T4ng10r> in jessie - they are
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2765 [19:45:01] <abrotman> T4ng10r: that's right, because it's not that version anymore .. what are you actually trying to do?
2766 [19:45:01] <greycat> Testing support is on the OFTC network in #debian-next
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2770 [19:46:23] <T4ng10r> I want ONE APP to use sound, its configured on gstreamer0.10, I added most of gstreamer0.10 needed packages by hand (dpkg) but failt to solve problem in link
2771 [19:47:17] <Iridos> use the source package and try to compile it for testing?
2772 [19:47:19] <T4ng10r> I don't want to reinstall system to stable (jessie) to clean up whole mess and work with this APP (TeamViz BTW)
2773 [19:47:29] <plasmoduck> I just asked for help in #postfix and was told it's a #debian question, so.
2774 [19:47:34] <plasmoduck> I'm trying to configure postfix and I have no idea what I am doing, I have the configuration guide open from postfix.org. Basically, I run a local Debian server, apache, phpbb3 etc. I own a domain name, I have a dynamic ip (no rdns) so I use ddns.net to point my domain name to my webserver. I would like to be able to send and receive email from my server over the internet (using my domain name if possible, or at least my ddns hostname)
2775 [19:47:55] <plasmoduck> So I am at the General type of mail configuration: Should I select Internet Site, Internet with smarthost?
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2777 [19:49:13] <T4ng10r> ok, i'll give a try
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2779 [19:49:21] <plasmoduck> I'm guessingg Internet with smarthost?
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2781 [19:49:47] <Iridos> T4ng10r, you can try to let aptitude resolve your dependency problem (but then have to add jessie repos to yours and... mixing is always a mess, but you already started down that way) or try to compile it with the source package fro testing ( /msg dpkg ssb for backporting instructions, this is the same procedure, just reverse in the repos you use)
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2788 [19:54:07] <Iridos> T4ng10r, also... pbuilder can make a chroot in minutes... and one can log in to the chroot with a pbuilder command and install arbitrary things (that are then removed). Dunno how difficult you'd find it to start graphical stuff. Else, this is a good options to try things out in another version than what one is using
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2790 [19:55:24] <plasmoduck> abrotman: what would you think?
2791 [19:55:35] <plasmoduck> I mean, reading is one thing, understanding it is another.
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2793 [19:56:27] <Iridos> deep learning
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2799 [20:00:16] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: it's "Internet Site" for a mail server with a static ip.
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2804 [20:01:06] <T4ng10r> Iridos: thank you for tips, I don't feel to good with chroot, I like to learn and understand what I do instead of simply retyping what other has wrote
2805 [20:01:23] <Iridos> ?
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2807 [20:01:41] <leba2> Can Debian auto-calculate network and broadcast addresses for /etc/network/interfaces in case of static network configuration? Or do I still need to specify them?
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2810 [20:02:19] <Strogg> 'lo 'lo
2811 [20:02:32] <Strogg> anyone know a good place to ask makefile questions?
2812 [20:02:34] <greycat> You need to specify the network mask. It can calculate the "network address" and "broadcast address" from that.
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2814 [20:03:01] <greycat> Strogg: ##workingset
2815 [20:03:05] <plasmoduck> I found this, so I am following it, hopefully it works, looks promising. replaced-url
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2817 [20:03:49] <Strogg> greycat: huh. thanks! I'll add that to my autojoin list
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2820 [20:05:16] <leba2> greycat: thanks again sir. But I did know that thing, which is why I was just asking about network address and broadcast address. I do know host's ip address, subnet mask, gateway and dns are the basic ones.
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2829 [20:07:18] <leba2> So for some reason d-i usually includes network and broadcast address anyway when configuring static network config, but I could actually skip/comment them, right?
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2832 [20:07:47] <greycat> TIAS
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2836 [20:08:42] <Neo> greetings everyone
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2838 [20:09:46] <leba2> Sorry, what does "TIAS" mean?
2839 [20:09:52] <Neo> I've got two protocols defined on dev eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces the up scripts execute for inet, but up doesn't seem to be executing for inet6. How do I got about finding why?
2840 [20:09:55] <greycat> Try It And See
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2842 [20:10:37] <Neo> both protocols are declared static
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2845 [20:10:58] <Neo> inet6 does get configured correctly, but doesn't execute the up scripts
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2848 [20:11:48] <leba2> Ok, thanks.
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2862 [20:21:44] <plasmoduck> what ports do i have to forward in my router for postfix and dovecot?
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2865 [20:22:58] <greycat> Depends on what exactly you're doing. To receive email from other sites, you need incoming 25/tcp (SMTP). To allow IMAP clients to connect, you need incoming 143/tcp (IMAP).
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2872 [20:25:20] <plasmoduck> fuck
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2874 [20:25:39] <plasmoduck> This is giving me a migraine
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2891 [20:34:58] <plasmoduck> # mail
2892 [20:34:58] <plasmoduck> bash: mail: command not found
2893 [20:35:00] <plasmoduck> wtf
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2896 [20:35:37] <greycat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep 4 2015 /usr/bin/mail -> /etc/alternatives/mail
2897 [20:35:39] <greycat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Sep 4 2015 /etc/alternatives/mail -> /usr/bin/heirloom-mailx
2898 [20:36:25] <Flippylosaurus> how do i send a mail using the command line?
2899 [20:36:31] <Flippylosaurus> i have a MTA on my server
2900 [20:36:45] <plasmoduck> Flippylosaurus: should be able to type mail like I am trying
2901 [20:37:18] <Flippylosaurus> root@flippylosaurus:~# mail
2902 [20:37:19] <Flippylosaurus> No mail for root
2903 [20:37:26] <greycat> Install any of the various command-line MUAs (mutt, heirloom-mailx) and have at it.
2904 [20:37:40] <Flippylosaurus> wasnt there something like mailsend
2905 [20:37:50] <greycat> ot
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2907 [20:37:54] <greycat> It's not hard, really.
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2910 [20:38:10] <plasmoduck> somethings seriously fucked up with my mail
2911 [20:38:15] <plasmoduck> I can't even use local mail new
2912 [20:38:17] <plasmoduck> now
2913 [20:38:19] <greycat> echo "This is a test" | mail -s "a subject" addr1 addr2 addr3
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2915 [20:39:00] <plasmoduck> bash: mail: command not found
2916 [20:39:11] <plasmoduck> thats after installing postfix and dovecot
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2918 [20:39:42] <Flippylosaurus> how do i change the outgoing address with mail?
2919 [20:39:44] <greycat> for fuck's sake, SCROLL UP and read what was said 3 minutes ago
2920 [20:39:58] <greycat> (plasmoduck)
2921 [20:40:05] <plasmoduck> Yes I seen your permission listings
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2927 [20:41:36] <plasmoduck> how come before I could just type 'mail', greycat
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2930 [20:42:22] <eitzei> I guess greycat is trying to tell you mail is only a symlink to other program. If you don't have that symlink in place, "command not found"
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2932 [20:42:31] <greycat> Before what? Before you removed the heirloom-mailx package or whatever was providing your /etc/alternatives/mail?
2933 [20:42:56] <teraflops> plasmoduck: did you read the dpkg messages while installing the stuff?
2934 [20:43:23] <plasmoduck> Honestly, I have NO idea what I am doing.
2935 [20:43:27] <plasmoduck> This is beyond me.
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2938 [20:43:44] <teraflops> plasmoduck: then don't do it
2939 [20:43:58] <plasmoduck> I kinda *need* to :/
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2941 [20:44:08] <plasmoduck> Or find someone to do it for me for $
2942 [20:44:20] <plasmoduck> I'm trying to run a business
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2946 [20:45:11] <greycat> plasmoduck: Did you install heirloom-mailx yet?
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2948 [20:45:18] <plasmoduck> I installed mutt
2949 [20:45:22] <greycat> OK, then use mutt.
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2951 [20:45:24] <greycat> Mutt is good.
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2953 [20:45:33] <plasmoduck> Im just going to go back to how it was before. I purged postix
2954 [20:45:39] <plasmoduck> re-installing sendmail
2955 [20:45:39] <teraflops> plasmoduck: take a look at e.g upwork then
2956 [20:46:00] <plasmoduck> I remember before I could send mail from my box to gmail account
2957 [20:46:05] <N3X15> Well, it's a good thing I tested downgrading to Jessie from testing on my test server. Ended up having to reinstall the OS.
2958 [20:46:05] <plasmoduck> so that was kinda acceptable
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2960 [20:46:15] <greycat> I *did* give an example, yes? I wasn't hallucinating that?
2961 [20:46:27] <plasmoduck> Yes you did greycat, cheers mate.
2962 [20:47:03] <plasmoduck> Hopefully I haven't fucked shit up too bad and I can still sendmail to the replaced-url
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2964 [20:47:27] <teraflops> if you're blindly reinstalling sendmail I agree with you. you have not idea of what you're doing
2965 [20:48:01] <greycat> You can't send mail to the replaced-url
2966 [20:48:26] <plasmoduck> greycat: you know what I mean, send mail externally.
2967 [20:48:43] <greycat> To the internet. To other mail servers.
2968 [20:48:51] <plasmoduck> Yes
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2970 [20:49:58] <x86iac> greycat: you heard of web mail?
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2972 [20:50:05] <plasmoduck> why is setting up mail server so difficult. Surely someone has made some web front end for this to eliminate frustration and migraine s.
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2974 [20:50:45] <greycat> x86iac: sure, but you don't *send mail to the replaced-url
2975 [20:51:09] <greycat> plasmoduck: it's not that difficult.
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2977 [20:51:26] <plasmoduck> greycat: I think my system is in a mess
2978 [20:52:15] <N3X15> Read the manual and how email works and understand it before attempting to mess with it. Email on Linux is already complex as hell to configure. You need to understand the basics before attempting to break it.
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2983 [20:52:58] <plasmoduck> N3X15: I know it is complex as hell.
2984 [20:53:11] <N3X15> I would recommend using a VM or local test server to test things rather than doing it on your production system
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2986 [20:53:25] <N3X15> That way, if you screw up, you can just reinstall and try again
2987 [20:53:35] <plasmoduck> Good idea
2988 [20:54:18] <teraflops> plasmoduck: I strongly suggest you to not setup an email server by yourself if you're planing a business.
2989 [20:54:22] <N3X15> ^
2990 [20:54:37] <N3X15> gmail has good, premade email services, for instance
2991 [20:55:01] <N3X15> Even lets you use it for your domain
2992 [20:55:02] <plasmoduck> But I want to use my domain name for emails
2993 [20:55:08] <plasmoduck> How?
2994 [20:55:22] <teraflops> plasmoduck: take this works as a kindly suggestion that will save you time and money
2995 [20:55:28] <teraflops> words
2996 [20:55:36] <N3X15> replaced-url
2997 [20:55:47] <plasmoduck> Also, I need to have mail working on my server for user registration needs
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2999 [20:55:56] <N3X15> there's more, that's just the first result
3000 [20:56:07] <N3X15> and you can do that, you just set up sendmail to SMTP to gmail
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3002 [20:56:18] <teraflops> plasmoduck: just use Google apps and link your domain to Gmail servers
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3004 [20:56:44] <greycat> The google is friendly. The google won't read your email. They promise!
3005 [20:56:53] <plasmoduck> I think I have to pay extra to use mail services? Im not sure
3006 [20:56:59] <plasmoduck> I'm using godaddy.com
3007 [20:57:02] <N3X15> You may have to screw around with MX records and whatnot, but it's still a lot better than hand-configuring exim.
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3009 [20:57:15] <plasmoduck> Google is the NSA
3010 [20:57:16] <plasmoduck> Big brother
3011 [20:57:28] <N3X15> well, everyone's spying on everything nowadays
3012 [20:57:28] <plasmoduck> I don't even use Google, I use DuckDuckGo
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3014 [20:57:41] <N3X15> deal with it *sunglasses*
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3016 [20:57:47] <sm00th> lol
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3019 [20:58:03] <plasmoduck> I refuse to use Google!
3020 [20:58:09] <teraflops> greycat: that's better than setting up a mail server for an actual business with the sysadmin background we all have seen from him. no offense intended
3021 [20:58:20] <plasmoduck> and Facebook... I hate Facebook.
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3023 [20:58:23] <N3X15> Then use Godaddy's paid email services
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3025 [20:58:40] <N3X15> I used to use them before they screwed me on a bill
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3027 [20:58:52] <enertec> hi there
3028 [20:59:00] <N3X15> They provide email services in your hosting section
3029 [20:59:01] <plasmoduck> N3X15: what happened?
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3031 [20:59:20] <plasmoduck> Yeah I clicked it and it said contact customer support.
3032 [20:59:20] <N3X15> They overcharged me by $25 and refused to fix it
3033 [20:59:35] <x86iac> they have to be reading my gmail email or why else would i be getting pop up ads for depends
3034 [20:59:35] <N3X15> I charged them back and switched to namecheap
3035 [20:59:52] <enertec> would you say that ext4 is the better choice nowadays? i am formatting 3tb samsung / seagate external sub 3.0 drive
3036 [20:59:56] <enertec> usb
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3038 [21:00:09] <x86iac> enertec: yes ext4
3039 [21:00:17] <N3X15> enertec, depends on your usage patterns and what you want out of it
3040 [21:00:17] <plasmoduck> yes
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3042 [21:00:26] <plasmoduck> N3X15: how did you charge them back?
3043 [21:00:29] <N3X15> I use reiserfs out of habit
3044 [21:00:39] <plasmoduck> ZFS
3045 [21:00:39] <N3X15> plasmoduck, credit card company magic
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3047 [21:00:50] <plasmoduck> N3X15: explain
3048 [21:00:56] <enertec> on wikipedia i read ext3 is more stable but ext4 has much more performance
3049 [21:01:03] <x86iac> plasmoduck: zfs with 3tb?
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3052 [21:01:14] <enertec> zfs?
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3054 [21:01:24] <enertec> on a single usb 3tb drive?
3055 [21:01:29] <enertec> hm
3056 [21:01:37] <x86iac> enertec: stick to ext4 and use multiple partitions
3057 [21:01:45] <greycat> Why the hell would you use anything as experimental and nonstandard as zfs on an external disk?
3058 [21:01:54] <enertec> there is only one partition on it
3059 [21:02:02] <plasmoduck> Just for fun
3060 [21:02:12] <N3X15> greycat, maybe he's into sadomasochism
3061 [21:02:18] <enertec> i wonder how they did it but it is mbr /msdos an
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3063 [21:02:22] <plasmoduck> BDSM
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3066 [21:03:06] <enertec> i always thought that 3tb can only be gpt
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3071 [21:04:08] <enertec> N3X15, ???
3072 [21:04:23] <enertec> why use multiple partitions
3073 [21:04:32] <enertec> isnt one partition fine as for data
3074 [21:04:41] <greycat> Use whatever you want.
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3076 [21:04:53] <aruna> hi does anyone know what the nm command ( binutils ) stands for please ? What I mean is the acronym *nm* what does it actually stand for ?
3077 [21:04:57] <teraflops> yeah. whatever floats you goat
3078 [21:05:00] <x86iac> what if it goes bad? multiple partitions don't all go bad at the same time
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3081 [21:05:18] <greycat> If it's an external disk then the implication is that you might want to use it on more than one computer, so you should PROBABLY choose something that is likely to work on more than one computer, but hey, it's your disk.
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3085 [21:06:13] <enertec> its only there to store and archive data
3086 [21:06:19] <teraflops> yeah that's why zfs sounded ereplaced-url
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3094 [21:07:28] <plasmoduck> I just use zfs for all my media
3095 [21:07:33] <plasmoduck> FreeNAS
3096 [21:07:57] <x86iac> aruna: name mangling (resolves it)
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3098 [21:08:00] <enertec> freenas can work well with ext4 doesn it?
3099 [21:08:45] <greycat> NAME
3100 [21:08:45] <greycat> nm - print name list of common object file
3101 [21:08:55] <aruna> x86iac: Thank you but how does one unmangle ?
3102 [21:08:57] <plasmoduck> look at my shirt replaced-url
3103 [21:08:58] <greycat> Presumably it stands for "name list".
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3105 [21:09:07] <plasmoduck> Keep calm and use FreeNas
3106 [21:09:43] <enertec> :-)
3107 [21:10:07] <plasmoduck> ;-)
3108 [21:10:08] <aruna> greycat: Thank you but my man pages says -> nm - list symbols from object files
3109 [21:10:10] <x86iac> T non_mangled_function
3110 [21:10:32] * aruna am running debian
3111 [21:10:41] <greycat> aruna: I cited a NON-DEBIAN man page. Because it gave me the information I wanted.
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3115 [21:11:03] <greycat> You wanted the origin of the name. So I used a system that had less modern documentation.
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3117 [21:11:13] <aruna> greycat: no noo thank you so much for helping I just wish I can find what the darn acronym actually means ?
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3119 [21:11:30] <x86iac> nm = name mangling
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3121 [21:11:31] <greycat> You don't think my citation was accurate?
3122 [21:11:49] <x86iac> it is very very old
3123 [21:11:53] <axc1298> Iridos: adding exit 0 to the postrm script solved the problem
3124 [21:11:55] <greycat> Feel free to dig up some other old-unix system man pages and cross check it.
3125 [21:11:59] <axc1298> thanks
3126 [21:12:34] <Iridos> axc1298, yeah, I know... but whatever the script was supposed to do didn't happen
3127 [21:12:40] <abrotman> plasmoduck: eh, what?
3128 [21:13:07] <aruna> greycat: absolutely accurate dear I am trying to put together some documentation on kernel modules for total newbies and wanted to list the actual names of some of the tools used to analyse object files is all
3129 [21:13:07] <plasmoduck> abrotman: never mind, I've given up.
3130 [21:13:10] <abrotman> plasmoduck: Oh, I assume you figured it out by now
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3132 [21:13:24] <axc1298> Iridos: does it matter? i added exit 0, then removed the package i was trying to install, installed the dependencies, then installed the deb again, no errors and it works
3133 [21:13:40] <plasmoduck> It was stressing me out too much
3134 [21:13:50] <aruna> x86iac: name mangling huh ? Oh kay :-)
3135 [21:13:55] <axc1298> the script was trying to do 'set -e' and 'update-desktop-database'
3136 [21:13:57] <plasmoduck> I need to keep calm and use gmail
3137 [21:14:02] <greycat> nm(1) does NOT come from "name mangling". Just no.
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3140 [21:14:59] <x86iac> enertec: just remove the drive and you will see next time you try to mount it
3141 [21:15:04] <greycat> "name mangling" is a term that I first heard in the early C++ era, which is MUCH later than the nm(1) program
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3143 [21:15:29] <greycat> And tells you pretty much everything you need to know about C++.
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3146 [21:16:35] <x86iac> enertec: yes sync is good but umount will do it if needed
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3152 [21:17:16] <aruna> greycat: So what do I say *nm* actually stands for then ? I use gcc and plain old C has so far been sufficient to resolve whatever my needs may have been.
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3157 [21:17:56] <greycat> aruna: my cited reference says it means "print name list of common object file" so it is almost certainly a shortening of "name" just like "ls" is a shortening of "list" and so on.
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3160 [21:18:07] <enertec> thanks x86iac
3161 [21:18:11] <enertec> i appreciate your help
3162 [21:18:50] <aruna> greycat: x86iac: oh kay thank's very much both of you.
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3214 [21:43:22] <Neo> changing my up to post-up and appending '|| true' seemed to have fixed the fault
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3230 [21:47:47] <Neo> actually I take that back
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3244 [21:53:02] <BrainBug[BE]> Hey, Can anybody tell me I've just shrunk my lv (lv_home) from 250 to 200GB. All works fine. After some file checking I did lvreduce --resizefs -L 200G /dev/vg/lv_home This worked, maybe because the drive was as good as empty, but what happens if the drive is full? Will it give an error or anything like that?
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3248 [21:54:53] <jelly> BrainBug[BE]: resizing the filesystem will fail, then resizing the lv will fail as well, you'd end up with no change
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3251 [21:55:38] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, thank you for the information.
3252 [21:55:45] <jelly> in theory that is. In practice I never let lvchange/lvreduce do the implicit work, and always manually resize2fs before reducing the block device.
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3256 [21:56:42] <jelly> BrainBug[BE]: was the filesystem unmounted while doing lvreduce? Did you save the complete output of the command?
3257 [21:57:07] <BrainBug[BE]> Yes, i've used resize2fs first. I was just curious. The filesystem was indeed unmounted first.
3258 [21:57:08] <jelly> if you have the output, it may shed some light on whether it did the sane (safe) thing
3259 [21:57:24] <jelly> ah, that's just fine then.
3260 [21:57:27] <BrainBug[BE]> Jelly, ah but there is no problem at the moment, just a practical question as in what would happen.
3261 [21:57:34] <greycat> In practice you never reduce the size of a file system, except when it's a Windows partition that spans the disk you want to install a real OS on.
3262 [21:58:06] <jelly> BrainBug[BE], I think you'd have have to use --force because lvm tools do some sanity checking and detect there's a filesystem
3263 [21:58:18] <jelly> and after you forced it, you'd have data loss :-)
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3266 [21:59:10] <jelly> greycat, in practice, Debian installer spans the LV for /home to fit the whole PV
3267 [21:59:19] <jelly> that is a dumb thing to do
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3270 [21:59:34] <greycat> OK, true, some people actually let the installer partition for them....
3271 [21:59:41] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, I would expect as much. But it's nice to know if my lv is 90% full and I try shrink it to lets say 80%, it throws me an error.
3272 [22:00:27] <jelly> BrainBug[BE], the LV is just a piece of disk space, it's not 90% or 80% full. It's the filesystem structures on top of it that have a concept of "full" and "free" space
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3275 [22:01:16] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, that actually makes sense.
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3277 [22:01:33] <jelly> so if you followed the same procedure, it would be resize2fs that would throw an error
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3280 [22:02:22] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, thanks for the info, I was just testing out and playing around with lvm to get to know it a bit better (and the commands).
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3294 [22:08:52] <jhutchins> Experience is proportionate to data destroyed.
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3298 [22:09:15] <x86iac> and to failure to boot
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3302 [22:09:58] <x86iac> divided by man page readings
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3306 [22:12:09] <teraflops> jhutchins: heh very true
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3317 [22:15:16] <kanzure> p/win 12
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3320 [22:16:15] <miesco> Hi how do I stop my notification daemon?
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3323 [22:16:48] <jelly> miesco, what's a notification daemon?
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3326 [22:17:14] <teraflops> notify-osd dunst etc
3327 [22:17:25] <greycat> I would guess it's something related to a desktop environment
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3330 [22:17:41] <miesco> teraflops: dunst says there is already one running, but `ps aux | grep notif` returns nothing
3331 [22:17:53] <miesco> greycat: No its not
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3333 [22:18:20] <teraflops> miesco: yeah. please be specific. as in which de wm are you in
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3335 [22:18:44] <greycat> what's a dunst
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3338 [22:18:57] <teraflops> a notification daemon
3339 [22:18:59] <teraflops> heh
3340 [22:19:33] <greycat> $ apt-cache search dunst
3341 [22:19:33] <greycat> dunst - dmenu-ish notification-daemon
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3343 [22:20:18] <teraflops> quite popular for i3 people I think
3344 [22:20:42] <teraflops> people who run i3 I meant
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3346 [22:21:09] <miesco> teraflops: dwm
3347 [22:21:15] * greycat still isn't clear on what a "notification daemon" is. Is it like a terminal running tail -f on a logfile? Or is it a popup that you have to dismiss randomly every time it appears? Or...?
3348 [22:21:25] <turbo64> is it a good idea to upgrade from jessie to stretch right now
3349 [22:21:41] <miesco> greycat: Its a bubble with words
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3351 [22:22:01] <BrainBug[BE]> miesco, probably obvious but ps aux | grep dunst ?
3352 [22:22:15] <greycat> Is it always there, or does it appear and disappear on its own, or do you have to interact with it to make it go away, or...?
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3354 [22:22:28] <teraflops> miesco: grep prep for it. I do not know the process name. if it's python search for python
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3356 [22:22:43] <teraflops> grep* sorry
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3358 [22:22:47] <miesco> BrainBug[BE]: No that doesn't work. I removed dunst for now. Executing `/usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon` just returns 1 with no words.
3359 [22:22:54] * babilen uses dunst
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3362 [22:23:36] <miesco> teraflops: I have removed all notification daemons except for `notification-daemon`
3363 [22:23:39] * greycat guesses... from context... from miesco's questions... that it's *not* always there, otherwise he wouldn't be asking whether it's running
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3367 [22:24:11] <miesco> greycat: How do you get notifications?
3368 [22:24:30] <greycat> the phone rings and someone tells me to do something, or I get an email and I read it and someone wants me to do something
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3370 [22:24:45] <miesco> greycat: What if someone sends you a message on irc?
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3372 [22:25:07] <greycat> If I happen to be looking at the IRC client window, as I am right now, I'll see it.
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3378 [22:25:48] <miesco> greycat: What if you need to test the output of a cron job
3379 [22:26:02] <greycat> output of cron jobs goes to email
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3381 [22:26:20] <teraflops> miesco: replaced-url
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3385 [22:26:58] <miesco> teraflops: Not much there to read
3386 [22:27:29] <teraflops> packages providing notification daemon...
3387 [22:27:59] <greycat> So desktop environment users have been getting these things for so long that they assume everyone has always gotten them and knows what they are.
3388 [22:28:02] <greycat> Interesting.
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3391 [22:28:37] <turbo128> hi
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3394 [22:30:16] <miesco> teraflops: Well any other of those daemons all say that there is another one running and I can't find it
3395 [22:30:19] <teraflops> greycat: I do notify-osd on xmonad. is usefull to have a notification daemon. at least for me
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3399 [22:30:54] <miesco> greycat: What is your wm?
3400 [22:30:57] <teraflops> miesco: what
3401 [22:31:11] <teraflops> sorry I'm on the phone
3402 [22:31:14] <greycat> teraflops: does this thing listen on a given port, or a unix domain socket, or something? Can miesco find it by doing an lsof on whatever that thing is that it listens to?
3403 [22:31:27] <greycat> miesco: fvwm
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3405 [22:32:26] <teraflops> greycat: xmonad do a good job. I import a library and then it integrates with the whole system. in general is a dbus thingy afaik
3406 [22:32:40] <miesco> teraflops: If you go to aptitude, it says replaced-url
3407 [22:32:48] <greycat> so is there a way to ask what all the "dbus thingies" are?
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3413 [22:33:50] <blawiz> anyone using sc here? seems some of the shortcuts doesnt work on my install (stretch)
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3417 [22:34:39] <teraflops> miesco: I'm not dunst user. what I tried to day is that notification-daemon uses whatever notification thing you install like the link I linked.
3418 [22:34:42] <BrainBug[BE]> greycat, I guess /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service
3419 [22:35:59] <greycat> O dpm
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3422 [22:36:17] <greycat> I don't have that. I have the directory, and it has files in it. They're small text files. Maybe miesco has that file and he can read it.
3423 [22:36:36] <teraflops> miesco: sorry my typos
3424 [22:36:54] <BrainBug[BE]> greycat, neither do I but miesco might. Miesco maybe this helps: replaced-url
3425 [22:37:00] <miesco> teraflops: I think they might replace notification-daemon
3426 [22:37:28] <teraflops> miesco: ah I thought the other way around
3427 [22:37:52] <cilkay> Hello. I'm creating a Debian VirtualBox VM via a preseed install. I see an error flash by on the Alt-F4 console. I'd like to direct that console to a file that persists so that I can analyze it on first boot. How would I do that?
3428 [22:38:19] <cilkay> I don't see anything interesting in syslog or dmesg.
3429 [22:38:25] <cilkay> ... on first boot
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3431 [22:38:44] <turbo64> is there a way to use ubuntu PPAs in debian
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3433 [22:39:19] <teraflops> miesco: as in if you do notify-send it works with any notification daemon
3434 [22:39:19] <x86iac> why would you ? what program you looking for
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3436 [22:39:53] <teraflops> but I really shut up since I don't do dunst
3437 [22:40:09] <turbo64> theres a foobar2000 clone called foobnix i wanted to try
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3439 [22:40:31] <turbo64> i can compile it from source but ive been curious how ubuntu packages would install on debian
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3441 [22:40:59] <greycat> I'd build from source if possible. It's usually cleaner/safer.
3442 [22:41:03] <miesco> ...
3443 [22:41:04] <turbo64> im guessing it would work fine if all the dependencies are satisfied but jessie's packages are probably too old
3444 [22:41:09] <turbo64> yeah
3445 [22:41:28] <miesco> I installed xfce4-notifyd to test, it brought in like 5 packages. I am removing it, and no other packages are being removed...
3446 [22:41:30] <turbo64> this is probably not a popular opinion but i think ubuntu is the worst thing that ever happened to linux
3447 [22:42:03] <teraflops> then do not frankendebianize your debian
3448 [22:42:15] <turbo64> yeah im not gonna
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3450 [22:42:31] <BrainBug[BE]> teraflops, lol.
3451 [22:42:39] <turbo64> im thinking of upgrading to testing but im always worried ill end up breaking everything
3452 [22:43:10] <cilkay> turbo64: You could build from source in a Debian VM and pay attention to what you needed to do to get it to work. Then, you can create your own Debian package from those steps.
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3454 [22:43:14] <miesco> Why isn't aptitude deleting these files with an A flag?
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3456 [22:46:00] <dondelelcaro> miesco: you can always go aptitude why foopkg; and it will tell you
3457 [22:46:28] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Luckly there is /var/log/aptitude; I manually removed them alll...
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3459 [22:46:46] <miesco> But I don't like that AT ALL
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3461 [22:47:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> is there some chat server that one could install and have up in a couple of minutes to replace chatting with 2-3 people via gtalk?
3462 [22:47:11] <miesco> If a package brings in other packages, I NEED them to all go when I remove that original package
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3464 [22:47:21] <dondelelcaro> miesco: what about it? packages with an A were automatically installed, and if nothing depends on them anymore, they'll be removed
3465 [22:47:33] <x86iac> miesco: purge?
3466 [22:47:41] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Well apparantly not in this case
3467 [22:47:56] <dondelelcaro> miesco: well, that's why the aptitude why foopkg; output is useful
3468 [22:48:15] <dondelelcaro> miesco: it's likely that there is a package which suggests or recommends that package, or maybe something else odd happened
3469 [22:48:24] <cilkay> CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know about "a couple of minutes" but Rocket Chat and Mattermost are supposed to be open source alternatives to Slack. They're both on my TODO list to try.
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3472 [22:49:26] <miesco> install: replaced-url
3473 [22:49:29] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Look there
3474 [22:49:31] <miesco> I just did that
3475 [22:49:43] <miesco> greycat: Do you know why?
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3477 [22:50:18] <greycat> Do I know why what?
3478 [22:50:19] <dondelelcaro> miesco: what about it? the first and second look totally normal to me
3479 [22:50:47] <dondelelcaro> miesco: you asked to install xfce4-notifyd, so the packages were scheduled to be installed. You then asked that it be removed, so those packages are no longer automatically being installed
3480 [22:51:34] <miesco> dondelelcaro: They are not being removed
3481 [22:51:47] <miesco> greycat: Why my auto installed packages are not being removed
3482 [22:51:48] <dondelelcaro> miesco: did you complete the install between those two images?
3483 [22:51:55] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Yes
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3485 [22:52:03] <dondelelcaro> miesco: so what does aptitude why xfconf; say?
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3487 [22:52:43] <dondelelcaro> or aptitude why libxfce4util6;
3488 [22:53:07] * dondelelcaro is going to guess that it's something which Recommends: or Suggests: xfconf
3489 [22:54:01] <BrainBug[BE]> apt-get autoremove normally works to clean up stuff...
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3491 [22:54:31] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Oh interesting, they are all being deleted when I install something after xfce4-notifyd is already uninstalled
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3502 [22:58:29] <gho> hi is there a way to easily get a more recent kde on debian stable?
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3512 [23:00:53] <turbo64> upgrading to stretch inb4 my laptop explodes
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3525 [23:08:25] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 06:53 lucid_lime <- what does the 6 mean and how do I make it a 5?
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3533 [23:10:48] <x86iac> that is the link count ... why would you want/think you should change it?
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3538 [23:12:12] <CutMeOwnThroat> cilkay, those aren't packaged... but... ejabberd?
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3543 [23:13:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> dunno... it should be a bit better than unix talk on the shell
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3547 [23:14:02] <Hello71> !xy
3548 [23:14:02] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See replaced-url
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3555 [23:16:02] <plasmoduck> x86iac:
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3557 [23:16:04] <plasmoduck> because
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3559 [23:16:12] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 06:53 lucid_lime
3560 [23:16:13] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 prosilver
3561 [23:16:19] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 subsilver2
3562 [23:16:24] <plasmoduck> notice the rest are 5
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3564 [23:16:58] <teraflops> I tried vuvuzela recently is not a quick setup thingy at all but looks promising. it also has a Web interface.
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3567 [23:17:16] <plasmoduck> and lucid_lime which I just downloaded, isn't showing up in phpbb3 ACP > Board settings > Default style
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3569 [23:17:28] <plasmoduck> So I'm guessing it's cause it's a 6 not a 5
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3573 [23:19:06] <x86iac> wrong
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3578 [23:19:51] <plasmoduck> why the hell isn't it showing up then?
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3580 [23:19:53] <Hello71> nah, it's because the name doesn't have "silver" in it, you need to rename it to lucidsilver
3581 [23:20:01] <plasmoduck> I really?
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3583 [23:20:06] <Hello71> oh, and also the mtime is wrong, you need to change that too
3584 [23:20:07] <Hello71> /s
3585 [23:20:29] <plasmoduck> how do I change that?
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3587 [23:20:47] <x86iac> touch
3588 [23:20:57] <Hello71> ...
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3590 [23:21:53] <x86iac> we should have played hangman with him t....
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3592 [23:22:04] <plasmoduck> just 'touch lucidsilver' ?
3593 [23:22:33] <plasmoduck> still not showing up :/
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3595 [23:23:07] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 07:20 lucidsilver
3596 [23:23:07] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 prosilver
3597 [23:23:12] * Hello71 facepalms
3598 [23:23:13] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 subsilver2
3599 [23:23:58] <plasmoduck> a little guidance please I have been stuck trying to get this working for over an hour
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3602 [23:24:40] <plasmoduck> the instructions just say to extract it to /usr/share/phpbb3/styles and symlink it to /etc/phpbb3/styles
3603 [23:24:42] <plasmoduck> which I did
3604 [23:24:59] <plasmoduck> and then it should show up... but nooooooo it doesn't want to show up now does it!
3605 [23:25:11] <plasmoduck> nothing ever want's to show up for me
3606 [23:25:30] <plasmoduck> things like hiding from me
3607 [23:25:47] <miesco> Im going to try restarting and see if notification-daemon works
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3609 [23:25:53] <plasmoduck> please
3610 [23:26:04] <plasmoduck> x86iac: Hello71: ?
3611 [23:26:11] <plasmoduck> what am I missing
3612 [23:26:50] <x86iac> did you do the link correctly?
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3614 [23:27:21] <x86iac> ls -l /etc/phpbb3/styles
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3616 [23:27:41] <plasmoduck> ln -s /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucid_lime/ /etc/phpbb3/styles/
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3618 [23:28:36] <x86iac> is that what you typed it said to do at x:24:18
3619 [23:28:46] <plasmoduck> it didn't say how to do it
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3621 [23:29:11] <x86iac> you said the instructions just say to ...
3622 [23:29:30] <plasmoduck> it said to symlink it
3623 [23:29:39] <plasmoduck> But didn't say the command, I messed up
3624 [23:30:00] <x86iac> styles linked? and not lucid_lime?
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3626 [23:30:46] <plasmoduck> omg seriously...
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3629 [23:31:20] <plasmoduck> from: /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver# I done ls /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/
3630 [23:31:24] <plasmoduck> is that correct?
3631 [23:31:39] <plasmoduck> ls -a
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3633 [23:31:46] <plasmoduck> wait
3634 [23:31:47] <plasmoduck> wtf
3635 [23:31:51] <miesco> Okay, I get this with notify-osd: ** (notify-osd:4521): WARNING **: dbus_create_service_instance(): Got error "/usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any error message"
3636 [23:31:55] <plasmoduck> ln -s
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3638 [23:33:54] <miesco> Which is funny because... I don't have a `/usr/bin/dbus-launch`~
3639 [23:35:05] <miesco> Okay I installed 'dbus-x11' and it all works
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3642 [23:36:39] <plasmoduck> . /etc/phpbb3/styles# ln -s /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/
3643 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Jul 21 07:35 lucidsilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/
3644 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 13 2015 prosilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/prosilver
3645 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 May 13 2015 subsilver2 -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/subsilver2
3646 [23:37:16] <plasmoduck> wtf isn't it showing up
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3651 [23:39:00] <plasmoduck> its broken
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3656 [23:40:01] <x86iac> get real instructions for what you want to do
3657 [23:40:59] <plasmoduck> oh here it is
3658 [23:41:01] <plasmoduck> rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 672 Jul 21 06:53 lucidsilver/style.cfg
3659 [23:41:13] <plasmoduck> should be like this
3660 [23:41:14] <plasmoduck> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 643 Sep 28 2013 subsilver2/style.cfg
3661 [23:41:23] <plasmoduck> what do I have to chmod it too?
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3664 [23:42:03] <x86iac> i'm guessing a cfg file is a config file and the 644 gives read access to everything
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3666 [23:42:15] <plasmoduck> yes
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3670 [23:43:24] <CutMeOwnThroat> cilkay, oh, Prosody is packaged for debian and looks ok, let's see
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3686 [23:50:01] <lhx> !nicks
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3688 [23:50:32] <chaddy> /n
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3705 [23:55:34] <sine0> is anyone familiar with putting debian/netinstall on a usb
3706 [23:55:46] <sine0> can I just cp iso directly onto the sdb
3707 [23:56:15] <chaddy> dd is the preferred method, I believe
3708 [23:56:23] <vic> sine0: ^^ cp will not work
3709 [23:56:37] <chaddy> sudo dd if=/your/iso/file.iso of=/dev/sdb
3710 [23:57:00] <chaddy> then sync
3711 [23:57:16] <zykotick9> vic: ahhh cp works fine for making debian iso->usb... just sayin'
3712 [23:57:25] <vic> wat!?
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3715 [23:57:53] <zykotick9> vic: "sudo cp debian.iso /dev/sdb" then "sync" for example.
3716 [23:58:14] <vic> huh, ok I never thought of that
3717 [23:58:18] <vic> TIL
3718 [23:58:58] <vic> I'm used to people who would burn an ISO onto their CD.. having worked with Windows so much this was a common problem.
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