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12[00:07:33] <unborn> document viewer 3.14.1 here eh.. it does pdfs well.. at least for me
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31[00:24:25] <N0Lif3> which installation disc for Debian would I choose for an old laptop that has this cpu? replaced-url
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36[00:26:08] <themill> N0Lif3: i386 by the looks of it
37[00:26:14] <missmbob> N0Lif3: do you want gnome or xfce or netinst and pick during install?
38[00:26:52] <N0Lif3> probably going to put xfce on it, since it's an old lappy with only 512mb of DDR ram
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40[00:27:08] <missmbob> N0Lif3: replaced-url
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42[00:28:00] <N0Lif3> thanks
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46[00:29:45] <dvs> N0Lif3, it matters more if you are going to install via WiFi
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49[00:32:00] <N0Lif3> wifi if it works out of the box, ethernet if not
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51[00:32:56] <missmbob> for a computer that old i'd do normal install (what i linked you to)
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55[00:33:13] <N0Lif3> downloading the iso now
56[00:33:22] <N0Lif3> well, halfway done now
57[00:33:46] <missmbob> N0Lif3: how are you coping it to media? following the guide and just using cp?
58[00:34:31] <N0Lif3> I thank you for your assistance, but I know what I'm doing. I was just unsure of which installation I should get for that old AMD processor
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62[00:35:42] <missmbob> yeah. 32-bit vs 64-it is difficult vs firmware and such
63[00:36:01] <dvs> or multi-arch
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65[00:36:51] <missmbob> i'm betting unetbootin
66[00:37:00] <dvs> !unetbootin
67[00:37:00] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. replaced-url
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70[00:37:21] <N0Lif3> the laptop is too old to boot from USB.
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72[00:37:28] <N0Lif3> im burning a CD the whole fashioned way
73[00:37:33] <N0Lif3> old*
74[00:37:35] <dvs> O_O
75[00:37:37] <N0Lif3> asdfjkl;
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86[00:40:45] <n0kt> I wanted to install in my lappy the propietary drivers for ATI M HD4000 but I see there's no support for Jessie...
87[00:40:51] <n0kt> Should I re-install Wheezy or look for another oldstable-based distro? (don't have any clue, actually)
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89[00:42:05] <dvs> ,v linux-firmware-nonfree
90[00:42:12] <judd> No package named 'linux-firmware-nonfree' was found in amd64.
91[00:42:35] <dvs> ,v firmware-linux-nonfree
92[00:42:36] <judd> Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160110-1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20160110-1; sid/non-free: 20160110-1
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111[00:52:23] <finalform> /help
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120[00:56:28] <Sygram> Hi everyone
121[00:56:50] <Sygram> I'm new to this linux world, and I just installed debian jessie from netinst to my laptop
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123[00:57:37] <Sygram> but I can't run a single command on it
124[00:57:50] <Sygram> all of them say cannot execute binary file
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126[00:58:20] <Sygram> i.e. i did a "su root apt-get install sudo"
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128[00:58:59] <Sygram> and I get "/usr/bin/apt-get: /usr/bin/apt-get: cannot execute binary file"
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132[00:59:24] <Sygram> I'm pretty I selected the right architecture
133[00:59:39] <dvs> Sygram, su root -c apt-get install sudo
134[01:00:11] <Sygram> i got a lot of info
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136[01:00:18] <Sygram> but i dont think the command executed
137[01:00:26] <Sygram> a lot of info about apt-get
138[01:00:44] <dvs> Sygram, su root -c "apt-get install sudo"
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141[01:02:09] <Sygram> dvs, yeah that worked
142[01:02:19] <Sygram> thanks
143[01:02:28] <dvs> np
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149[01:04:18] <Sygram> another thing, since using that type of command
150[01:04:24] <Sygram> requires " "
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152[01:04:40] <Sygram> what if i need to run a command that uses " inside of it
153[01:04:42] <Sygram> like this
154[01:04:47] <Sygram> wpa_passphrase "$SSID_NAME" > /home/$USER_NAME/ssid_psk.key
155[01:05:05] <dvs> Sygram, set up sudo so you won't
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157[01:05:12] <Sygram> the thing is
158[01:05:22] <Sygram> i have to set up my internet first
159[01:05:26] <Sygram> right?
160[01:05:48] <Sygram> because i ran the apt-get install sudo
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162[01:05:58] <Sygram> and it said E: unable to locate package sudo
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165[01:06:06] <Sygram> I guess I need my internet conection working
166[01:06:08] <Sygram> first
167[01:06:08] <unborn> cannot he just use su to do the job what it needs and then just logout with exit from it?
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169[01:06:21] <dvs> unborn, that's too easy!
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171[01:06:53] <unborn> sudo is reminding me old ubuntu days heh
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173[01:08:00] <unborn> Sygram: you could try that command and see it if it works
174[01:08:13] <Sygram> on it
175[01:08:57] <Sygram> in the var /home/$USER_NAME should i use root
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177[01:10:12] <Sygram> got it working
178[01:10:15] <Sygram> will update
179[01:10:15] <Sygram> lol
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184[01:14:58] <Sygram> another question
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186[01:15:05] <dvs> time up1
187[01:15:08] <dvs> ;-)
188[01:15:16] <Sygram> :(
189[01:15:37] <Sygram> are these, all the repositories I need for my debian jessie
190[01:15:38] <Sygram> deb replaced-url
191[01:16:20] <dvs> Sygram, you dont "need" backports but it's fine. But you need security!
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193[01:16:45] <dvs> !jessie sources.list
194[01:16:45] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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196[01:18:00] <Sygram> what do you by see <deb-src> ... etc
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200[01:18:05] <Sygram> do you mean *
201[01:18:17] <dvs> !deb-src
202[01:18:17] <dpkg> 'deb-src replaced-url
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204[01:18:35] <Sygram> oh, I see thanks
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206[01:18:53] <dvs> or, better yet, /msg dpkg deb-src
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208[01:19:17] <Sygram> dvs, thanks
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217[01:23:13] <fredl> well that's an interesting ipv6 gotcha I just learned
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220[01:23:57] <fredl> if an interface is configured as forwarding interface, such as automatically happens when you make a bridge.... it will stop accepting ipv6 router advertisements
221[01:24:32] <fredl> fortunately however there exists a 3-value boolean in the kernel configuration
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223[01:25:01] <dvs> 3-value boolean?
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225[01:25:17] <fredl> yeah
226[01:25:18] <fredl> well
227[01:25:19] <Dagger> accept_ra=0|1|2
228[01:25:25] <fredl> yup
229[01:25:32] <Dagger> bridges don't require forwarding=1 though, I don't think
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231[01:25:46] <fredl> No I'm surprised about that myself Dagger
232[01:25:46] <Dagger> as in, my bridges are set to 0 and both SLAAC and the bridge work
233[01:26:07] <fredl> but it's the only cause I can find for my forwarding being set to 1
234[01:26:23] <fredl> but you're right it should not be neccessary
235[01:26:24] * themill assumes Boole is spinning in his grave
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237[01:26:33] <dvs> heh
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239[01:26:50] <fredl> :)
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250[01:30:30] <fredl> does STP require forwarding=1?
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253[01:31:24] <fredl> actually, hmmm I think I know the reason why my br0 is forwarding
254[01:31:27] <fredl> hostapd
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267[01:38:31] <egazz> evening all, a question/issue I'm hoping someone can help me with
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269[01:39:08] <simbalion> if I try to do sudo cat blah >> restricted-file, I get permission denied, presumably because the >> part isn't performed as root. Is there a way around this?
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271[01:39:53] <fredl> well ask away egazz
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276[01:40:28] <fredl> I'm in a good mood, guess I just got my exim to listen properly to ipv6 again, so why not help someone else :P
277[01:40:35] <egazz> my issue is that my laptop will not suspend properly. Most of the time it'll do the suspend part, but then hard locks when I try to wake it up. Every once in awhile it does something that causes it to heat up like crazy. In either case I get a blank screen with the power button lit, but no response
278[01:40:57] <egazz> thanks fredl
279[01:41:19] <egazz> the output of uname -r, lsmod, and hwinfo is here: replaced-url
280[01:41:41] <fredl> I've had similar locking behavior before, in all cases proprietary firmware for NIC's were the problem
281[01:41:59] <egazz> hmm
282[01:42:32] <egazz> would that be the case even if it weren't on ethernet? It is connected to wifi when it happens, though
283[01:43:06] <fredl> Well if you turn off your wifi interface, does the problem exist too then?
284[01:43:36] <egazz> good question, I haven't tried that. I assume I have to do more than just disconnect from a network, right?
285[01:43:39] <fredl> My RTL NICS required proprietary firmware but that was ethernet... BCM usually require proprietary firmware as well
286[01:44:10] <egazz> yeah, the wifi in my laptop did
287[01:44:19] <fredl> well depends, if Network Manager manages that interface as it likely does, just shutting down the interface from there may suffice
288[01:44:26] <fredl> Try it, see if you like it :)
289[01:45:13] <egazz> haha
290[01:45:26] <egazz> yeah, it's using iwlwifi
291[01:45:55] <egazz> but ok, I'll try that. Obviously I will disconnect...will be back on shortly if it works, longer if not (since that'll require a hard reboot)
292[01:46:01] <simbalion> nvm got my answer
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299[01:50:46] <fredl> hmm I should configure my pdns to give my kids' PC a default IP for all hosts they try to visit after they should be in bed, asleep
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301[01:51:03] <egazz> back
302[01:51:08] <fredl> much more fun than just blocking them
303[01:51:18] <fredl> that took too long egazz, guessing it didn't help
304[01:51:31] <egazz> fredl: that seemed to work, or at least I was able to suspend and wake up twice without issue
305[01:51:51] <fredl> oh okay, gawd, I done my good deed for the day then
306[01:51:55] <egazz> haha
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308[01:52:31] <egazz> but I guess the question is if there's something I can do or if I have to turn off networking every time
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310[01:53:18] <fredl> well... to me it's clear that it's a bug in the proprietary networking drivers
311[01:53:38] <fredl> but good luck with telling the vendors
312[01:53:50] <fredl> if that is where those drivers come from
313[01:54:00] <egazz> they were package with debian
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315[01:54:02] <egazz> packaged
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317[01:54:08] <fredl> well not quite
318[01:54:14] <fredl> they're in non-free :)
319[01:54:39] <egazz> true
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324[01:57:36] <egazz> could I at least set up a script to disable networking before suspend, and then to turn it back on?
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333[02:00:39] <Gryllida> egazz, what was your fix?
334[02:00:44] <fredl> hmm maybe you can tell network manager to do that
335[02:00:51] <ariel__> I think my hard-drive might be about to fail
336[02:00:52] <fredl> not sure, I hate network manager
337[02:01:06] <egazz> gryllida: working on that, but the current hypothesis is that it's the proprietary wi-fi firmware
338[02:01:27] <Gryllida> egazz: ah, free firmware'd wifi cards are really cheap, I recommend to get one :)
339[02:01:46] <Gryllida> replacing them is easy on most laptops, just 2 mins
340[02:01:52] <egazz> any suggestions?
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350[02:05:19] <zeta-> Wondering if my sources.lst is right: I have jessie with updates and proposed-updates, plus security of course, then testing with updates and proposed-updates too. Not sure about last two, would testing on its own be sufficient?
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364[02:12:50] <zeta-> Also wondering about the dep11 directory in testing/main. There's a couple of large files in there, icons-64x64 (6MB) seems to update a lot and is often 75% of a sync!
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367[02:13:36] <bhurstpdx1> Thanks awall!
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373[02:16:32] <Sygram> hey guys
374[02:16:38] <Sygram> another newbie question
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377[02:17:10] <Sygram> i just finished installing gnome with "tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install"
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379[02:17:35] <Sygram> do I need to install anything else for the GUI to show? or am I good to go?
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399[02:33:56] <Sygram> I installed gnome on my debian
400[02:33:59] <Sygram> and now nothing shows
401[02:34:06] <Sygram> just a blinking _
402[02:34:16] <Sygram> I don't even see the shell
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415[02:48:29] <_unreal_> hello I'm trying to build from the instructions here replaced-url
416[02:49:22] <_unreal_> this command is giving me errors: git co v4.5 says co is not a valid command and lists 3 options: commit, clone, and log
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419[02:54:22] <jmcnaught> _unreal_: from the context i would guess that they meant "git checkout ..."
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421[02:55:04] <_unreal_> I dont know "git" well at all
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423[02:55:06] <_unreal_> I'll try it
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425[02:57:51] <_unreal_> sweet worked thanks
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433[03:03:55] <hitch> hello?
434[03:04:25] <hitch> Looking for local GNU, mvlug, Linux club....
435[03:04:29] <hitch> anyone?
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438[03:05:56] <_unreal_> have you tried looking online for any web sites that have a database of that?
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445[03:08:09] <hitch> Ive looked everywhere, that I can think of. I've only found very dorment sites from 2009.
446[03:08:37] <TomTomTosch> jmcnaught: do you plan to fix it? else i would do it quickly.
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448[03:08:53] <Gryllida> hitch: local to what area?
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450[03:09:31] <hitch> Gryllida: Las Cruces / Mesilla Valley NM area
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453[03:11:48] <Gryllida> hitch, I guess you could contact the 2009 ones and ask them what's up and whether they're still around anywhere or where they would recommend you to go
454[03:13:09] <hitch> I guess, I could try that.
455[03:13:19] <_unreal_> arg.... compiling so SLOW
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457[03:13:47] <_unreal_> lol 1.6ghz intel atom
458[03:14:20] <missmbob> !ccache
459[03:14:20] <dpkg> methinks ccache is a compiler cache, for speeding up code recompilation. To use it, see /usr/share/doc/ccache/README.Debian and INSTALLATION of ccache(1). replaced-url
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463[03:18:52] <dondelelcaro> hitch: I don't know of any myself, but I'd expect there would be some group at the university
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465[03:19:58] <hitch> Yeah, I was thinking so, too.
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488[03:39:24] <jmcnaught> TomTomTosch: oh I got distracted, I'll change it right now
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511[03:53:53] <TomTomTosch> okayo x)
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523[04:05:28] <awal1> How to make compositing stuff only for X application?
524[04:06:22] <awal1> I use compton, but I dont want transparency for all my window manager; I only want transparency for guake
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528[04:09:07] <chaddy> unagi
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532[04:11:26] <awal1> yeah, tehere are choice (xcompmgr, compton, unagi ...) but the problem is how to enable transparency for a specific app :P
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537[04:12:59] <Orbinaut> compton has include/exclude options
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551[04:17:48] <awal1> 0rbinaut, you're refering to shadow-exclude, fade-exclude and so?
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553[04:19:44] <awal1> in that case i'll have to exclude compton features for all my X session except guake, bcoz I see only a few option for include and a lot for exclude :P :D
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573[04:55:09] <CtrlC> I got a jessie installed. When root, the auto complete doesn't work properly. Like I can't get apt-get options. How can I fix this?
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576[04:57:14] <dcosnet> hi all
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578[04:57:51] <angevin> linux is harder for me to use than OpenBSD because linux is bloated GUI crap that treats you like an idiot and does not act like a transparent unix under the hood
579[04:58:03] <dcosnet> anyone have a config for 3840x2160? need it for xfce, lightdm, slim
580[04:58:05] <angevin> linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees
581[04:58:11] <angevin> OpenBSD is for the elite
582[04:58:34] <dcosnet> o look another situation where if i was op. the pests would be gone.
583[04:58:50] <dcosnet> anyway.
584[04:58:53] <dcosnet> anyone have a config for 3840x2160? need it for xfce, lightdm, slim
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588[04:59:35] <angevin> dcosnet: whatever, systemd is an example of where people who do not understand unix are bound to reinvent it poorly
589[04:59:44] <angevin> dcosnet: systemd is a insecure complex piece of code
590[04:59:55] <angevin> dcosnet: it will be the next attack vector
591[05:00:11] <angevin> dcosnet: it was never audited and complex code tends to have more bugs
592[05:00:15] <aedinius> so don't use systemd?
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594[05:00:30] <angevin> aedinius: I use OpenBSD idiot. Linux is a piece of shit
595[05:00:38] <aedinius> Then why are you here?
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597[05:00:57] <aedinius> Bad troll is bad.
598[05:01:14] <dcosnet> ehhh
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600[05:01:24] <dcosnet> are you serious right now?
601[05:01:43] <dcosnet> i'm not here to argue with you. and stop digging out quotes to try and get me to you fuck.
602[05:01:53] <angevin> dcosnet: yeah, the dude who coded systemd said the BSDs are not relevant anymore. Then Edward Snowden came out
603[05:01:57] <aedinius> I'm pretty sure systemd gets audited...
604[05:01:59] <dcosnet> ugh why am i in this channel.
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606[05:02:05] <angevin> dcosnet: now guess what faggots ? OpenBSD is more relevant than ever
607[05:02:12] <angevin> you dumb linux faggots
608[05:02:19] <aedinius> Edward Snowden came out? Good for him.
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612[05:03:16] <angevin> aedinius: yeah he came out with his revelations
613[05:03:35] <angevin> aedinius: linux has no point to its existance other than for android so the NSA can spy on your phone
614[05:03:43] <aedinius> Better or worse than Peter's Revelations?
615[05:03:45] <angevin> aedinius: I fail to see the point of linux's existance
616[05:03:53] <angevin> why does linux exist ?
617[05:04:19] <aedinius> Because BSD was embroiled with legal issues at the time.
618[05:04:26] <jmcnaught> !ops angevin trolling
619[05:04:26] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: angevin trolling
620[05:04:39] <aedinius> Oops, John wrote Revelations not Peter. My bad!
621[05:04:42] <angevin> aedinius: yeah, but MacOSX for the desktop and the BSDs for server, router and firewall
622[05:04:49] <angevin> aedinius: end of story. there is no point to linux
623[05:04:57] <angevin> aedinius: you can all go home now since linux is pointless
624[05:05:04] <Hello71> /ignore
625[05:05:11] <solarnetone> i feel the boot warming up for a kicking...
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631[05:05:19] <aedinius> solarnetone: Like, 300 style.
632[05:05:31] <aedinius> "This.. is... #DEBIAN."
633[05:05:35] <solarnetone> lol
634[05:05:40] * dvs studders at solarnetone
635[05:06:02] <martman> im trying to learn how network namespaces work so i can use openvpn just for specific apps. im wondering if anyone has done anything similar. i see posts online using iptable rules and funky routing, but im not sure why that would needed
636[05:06:27] <Hello71> it's not nice to use amsg
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638[05:08:19] <dondelelcaro> martman: you mean so certain applications will route packets through the VPN, and others won't?
639[05:09:31] <martman> dondelelcaro think that might be a trick question. i do want to force certain apps to go through the vpn, but it sounds like namespaces can avoid routing chaos
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641[05:10:13] <martman> it looks like any app launched in that namespace should be using the vpn,, so im not sure what i see iptables or routing shenanigans in alot of posts online
642[05:11:31] <martman> my fav guide so far replaced-url
643[05:11:59] <martman> i dont get why he does this in step 5
644[05:12:00] <martman> # iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.200.200.0/24 -o wl+ -j MASQUERADE
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649[05:20:24] <hitch> martman, that seems to me like the author is setting up to run as a NAT server for all ip-addrs on 10.200.200.X, which can be found on the wireless network interface. And then -j MASQUERADE, to be the gateway.
650[05:22:08] <CtrlC> Why can't I start nginx as a non root user?
651[05:22:16] <CtrlC> It says command not found.
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653[05:22:44] <dondelelcaro> CtrlC: you can, it's probably just /usr/sbin/nginx
654[05:23:35] <CtrlC> dondelelcaro: Why not just nginx? it's weird.
655[05:23:39] <martman> hitch any ideas why?
656[05:23:42] <hitch> if there were a command not found, you could probably just add that path to "~/.profile", or run by the wholepathname
657[05:23:47] <martman> im not sure why you would want or need that
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660[05:24:14] <CtrlC> Why isn't it there by default?
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665[05:24:47] <dondelelcaro> CtrlC: because it's not in your PATH
666[05:25:05] <dondelelcaro> CtrlC: in general, things in /usr/sbin are typically only useful for the administrator, and therefore aren't in noraml user's paths
667[05:25:12] <CtrlC> Yeah I figured that out. I mean why isn't it in my path.
668[05:25:13] <CtrlC> oh
669[05:25:14] <hitch> to find the path, if not root: "sudo updatedb;sudo locate nginx|grep bin"
670[05:25:23] <CtrlC> ok. Thanks.
671[05:27:48] <hitch> You could probably add an alias to the wholepathname of that command, to something that is in a normal users path. e.g.: "ln -s /usr/bin/nginx /bin/nginx"
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673[05:28:53] <dondelelcaro> or just dpkg -S nginx;
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684[05:36:14] <lhx> Question: I'm on testing, gnome 3.20, and I can't figure out how to get a screensaver to come on and lock my screen after XX seconds. I also can't figure out why Super-L doesn't lock my screen
685[05:36:16] <hitch> Oh, my bad... "Martman: Any Ideas Why?" It would help route traffic where you want it to go.
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687[05:38:38] <hitch> here are how mine are setup:
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690[05:39:05] <hitch> :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]
691[05:39:05] <hitch> -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp ! -d 192.168.0.1/24 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.1:3128
692[05:39:05] <hitch> -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp ! -d 192.168.0.1/24 --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 80
693[05:39:07] <hitch> -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
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700[05:42:28] <CtrlC> Why am I getting the apaches working page while it is purged?
701[05:43:05] <hitch> this is me rerouting all port 80 tcp traffic to 3128 through the proxy, and the proxy service is grabbing the world-wide-web in place of other hosts.
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704[05:46:32] <hitch> aight, peace out, my nerdy brothers and sisters!
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711[05:49:11] <CtrlC> apachectl stop && apt-get purge apache2* and I still get the "it works" page.
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713[05:49:52] <lhx> (figured it out... totally bullshit that gnome 3 requires GDM to be able to lock the screen.... )
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719[05:54:15] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: is apache2-bin still installed?
720[05:54:54] <CtrlC> jmcnaught: dpkg -l | grep apache returns nothing.
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726[06:01:18] <CtrlC> Any idea anyone?
727[06:02:43] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: "w3m replaced-url
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730[06:03:04] <CtrlC> jmcnaught: I used curl and it brings it up.
731[06:04:15] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: netstat -tulpn | grep ':80' what process is using port 80?
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733[06:04:49] <CtrlC> jmcnaught: It seems it is nginx.
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739[06:06:20] <CtrlC> I guess that solves the mystery.
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749[06:19:09] <jasonwc> I tried to use the instructions here (replaced-url
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752[06:21:14] <somiaj> ,v samba
753[06:21:15] <judd> Package: samba on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze13; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u10; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3;
754[06:21:16] <judd> jessie-security: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3; stretch: 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2; sid: 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2
755[06:21:43] <jasonwc> I need Samba 4.4 for the feature I want to test (SMB 3.0 multi channel)
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757[06:22:20] <somiaj> I'm unsure, but backporting all the way back to wheezy may need to take some work. I'm unsure about your error, but you can modify how the package is built if there is a way to remove the systemd requiremnt you are seeing
758[06:22:27] <jasonwc> I've been running Debian Wheezy with updated ZFS packages for my storage server for a long time as it is very reliable and I never needed to upgrade.
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763[06:23:50] <jasonwc> Yeah, I imagine it requires systemd since that's the default in Jessie.
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767[06:27:13] <jasonwc> first line is "dh binary --with python2 --with systemd". That's promising.
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774[06:34:57] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: samba 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2 has a Build-Depend of dh-systemd (>= 1.5).. were there errors or warnings when you did "apt-get build-dep samba" ?
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776[06:35:51] <jmcnaught> ,checkbackport samba --fromrelease sid --torelease wheezy
777[06:36:12] <judd> Backporting package samba in sid→wheezy/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), libsystemd-dev [linux-any], libtalloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), libtdb-dev (>= 1.3.8~), libtevent-dev (>= 0.9.25~), python-ldb (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-ldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-talloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), python-tdb (>= 1.3.8~).
778[06:36:53] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: see what judd says. to build the samba package from testing/unstable on wheezy you'd need to deal with those build-deps first
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781[06:37:51] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: is the feature you need in the samba 4.2 in jessie?
782[06:37:58] <jasonwc> No
783[06:38:01] <jasonwc> It was added in 4.4
784[06:38:05] <jasonwc> Ah, you're right.
785[06:38:08] <jasonwc> libcups2-dev : Depends: libgnutls-dev but it is not going to be installed
786[06:38:08] <jasonwc> E: Build-dependencies for samba could not be satisfied.
787[06:38:14] <jmcnaught> ,checkbackport samba
788[06:38:16] <judd> Backporting package samba in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), libtalloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), libtdb-dev (>= 1.3.8~), libtevent-dev (>= 0.9.25~), python-ldb (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-ldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-talloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), python-tdb (>= 1.3.8~).
789[06:38:20] <jasonwc> Sounds like I'll probalby have to upgrade to Jessie
790[06:38:29] <jasonwc> I'll test in VM to see if the feature even works
791[06:38:48] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: it doesn't look like the testing/unstable version of samba is easily backported to jessie either
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793[06:39:09] <jasonwc> jmcnaught, It can't just be installed from sid?
794[06:39:24] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: no, you cannot mix stable and unstable like that
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796[06:40:12] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: unstable and testing are using newer versions of libraries than stable, it'll break or you'll end up with a frankendebian hybrid system
797[06:40:19] <jasonwc> Hmm, I thought you could. The only packages I need updated versions of are ZFS and Plex Server and I have repositories that are updated for wheezy.
798[06:40:28] <jasonwc> Got it.
799[06:40:43] <jmcnaught> that's why people backport, but it can't always be done
800[06:40:46] <jasonwc> So, what's my best bet to get 4.4 on a stable Debian system?
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802[06:40:58] <babilen> (without essentially backporting everything else also)
803[06:41:11] <babilen> jasonwc: wheezy isn't stable, but oldstable
804[06:41:47] <jasonwc> Yeah, I know. I meant "stable" as in messing up my system.
805[06:42:08] <babilen> jasonwc: I see no way to samba 4.4+ on either wheezy nor jessie
806[06:42:10] <jasonwc> I'm OK upgrading to Jessie if necessary, but it doesn't seem like it'll do me any good here.
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808[06:42:25] <babilen> *get
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812[06:44:59] <jasonwc> Looks like there is no backport for Jessie at this time
813[06:45:01] <jasonwc> wonder why
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815[06:45:36] <jasonwc> 4.4 added a ton of interesting features and is really the only way to get multi Gbit speeds on a single transfer without a 10 Gbit NIC over samba
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817[06:46:50] <jasonwc> My alternative is to get some 10 Gbit fiber NICs and run OM3
818[06:47:14] <jmcnaught> jasonwc: jessie was released with samba 4.1 which got bumped to 4.2 because of a security flaw that could not be fixed in 4.1. That's the only reason a version bump happens on a Debian stable release
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820[06:47:37] <jasonwc> Right, but wheezy-backports offers 4.1 from 3.6
821[06:47:40] <jasonwc> on wheezy
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824[06:48:05] <babilen> Yes, because it was possible to backport that version to wheezy at the time
825[06:48:26] <jasonwc> I thought the entire point of backports was to offer newer versions (new features) for specific packages so people can retain the stable release while selectively upgrading packages they want
826[06:48:38] <jasonwc> Ah
827[06:49:39] <babilen> Yes, that is the point of backports, but it simply isn't possible to backport every package as some of them would require that you also backport a *huge* number of other packages also to satisfy build and runtime dependencies.
828[06:50:23] <babilen> That would, essentially, be equivalent to just upgrading to the release that the package is from without the benefits of tracking the original release directly
829[06:50:25] <jasonwc> So, at best 4.4 might be backported in the future. But as of now I'm stuck at 4.1?
830[06:50:45] <babilen> No, it will never get backported nor will it really get much easier to do that
831[06:51:03] <jasonwc> Sounds like my best option is just to get some 10 Gbit NICs
832[06:51:25] <babilen> Well, you could run a different distribution
833[06:51:29] <jasonwc> NFS can do what I want. Is there a decent NFS client for Windows?
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836[06:52:19] <jasonwc> I really like using Debian for my storage server. It's run 24/7 for the last year and a half without any issues and all my experience is on Debian or Debian derivatives.
837[06:52:52] <babilen> Sure, I understand, but there *is* that option and it might be better than investing in 10GbE NICs just to happify samba
838[06:52:58] <babilen> (and switches)
839[06:53:25] <babilen> Unfortunately even Ubuntu xenial does not come with 4.4, but 4.3
840[06:53:34] <jasonwc> I only need to connect two machines so no switch needed thankfully. The Mellanox fiber NICs are quite cheap. The only reaosn I haven't gone that route is that running fiber is a lot more challenging.
841[06:53:48] <babilen> aye
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844[06:56:20] <jasonwc> The fact that I'm still on Wheezy speaks to my experience with Debian. I made the mistake of running Windows Home Server at first because it was easy to setup, but then required constant tinkering, broke a lot, and lost me data since there are no good software RAID solutions. I spent some time setting up my Debian server (mostly learning ZFS) but since then, it's just been rock solid. Don't really want to screw with it.
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849[06:57:56] <somiaj> jasonwc: usnure on your setup but would something simple like winscp over ssh work for your needs or do you actually need to mount the filesystem in windows?
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852[06:58:33] <jasonwc> That might work.
853[06:58:58] <jasonwc> Would that allow me to get greater than 1 Gbit speeds for a single transfer?
854[06:59:05] <jasonwc> i.e. is it multi-threaded?
855[06:59:22] <somiaj> jasonwc: I'm unsure about winscp, and because it is transfering over encryption there will be some speed loss for that.
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857[06:59:43] <jasonwc> Right now I'm seeing 99.9% utilization (119 MB/sec) transferring from an SSD to a 24 drive RAID-Z2 array
858[07:00:07] <jasonwc> but it'll only use a single port
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860[07:01:20] <jasonwc> looks like winscp can multithread
861[07:01:33] <jasonwc> Just not sure how LACP will handle it.
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863[07:01:51] <jasonwc> Might still send over a single port since it's still the same client
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865[07:02:27] <orlock> OS doesngt need to be LACP aware does it?
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867[07:03:13] <orlock> but i guess you really need multiple streams for it to matter
868[07:03:15] <jasonwc> if you're using Dynamic LACP (802.3ad), it does. There are a bunch of bond modes, and if you want to use LACP, you need OS and switch support.
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870[07:03:21] <jasonwc> The other modes don't require switch support.
871[07:03:39] <jasonwc> Yeah, that's what SMB 3.0 multi channel would offer
872[07:03:48] <jasonwc> multiple streams for a single transfer over as many interfaces as you hve
873[07:03:50] <jasonwc> *have
874[07:04:00] <MadRat-> I have a fairly easy (I hope) question to answer: How do I display Japanese file names?
875[07:04:17] <orlock> jasonwc: i should know, but never had to look into it that hard
876[07:04:33] <orlock> mix of 10G and 40G interconnects here
877[07:04:43] <jasonwc> orlock, replaced-url
878[07:04:49] <orlock> It's never been the limiting factor :)
879[07:05:13] <jasonwc> orlock, Dynamic LACP is mode 4 or 802.3ad
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882[07:06:34] <jasonwc> sounds like this is very easy with NFS
883[07:06:35] <jasonwc> replaced-url
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885[07:08:08] <jasonwc> Linux has a bonding mode that will send packets round-robin that effectively achieves Nx port speeds. However, it can't assure packets arrive in order which can cause issues. Also, doesn't work with non-Linux clients.
886[07:08:30] <orlock> hmm, nice
887[07:08:39] <orlock> say - are jumbo frames generally required anyore?
888[07:08:56] <orlock> i remember about 5-10 years ago i needed them to get gig throughput otherwise i maxed out the switches CPU
889[07:09:01] <jasonwc> No
890[07:09:07] <jasonwc> It makes no difference
891[07:09:08] <orlock> but now everythings 1500 and seems fine
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893[07:09:28] <jasonwc> Any decent Intel NIC will offload and the switches can all manage at regular packet sizes
894[07:09:44] <jasonwc> There is a slight efficiency benefit (95% vs 99.4%)
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896[07:09:49] <jasonwc> At Gigabit speeds
897[07:10:01] <jasonwc> orlock, You're using 1500 at 40 Gbit?
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901[07:10:17] <jasonwc> I would think the overhead would be insane
902[07:12:01] <orlock> 10 gig is at 1500
903[07:12:08] <orlock> just trying to remember where we had 40
904[07:13:16] <orlock> full-duplex, 40 Gb/s, media type is 40G
905[07:13:22] <orlock> MTU 9216 bytes,
906[07:13:54] <orlock> thats just on an interlink between the core nexus
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908[07:14:09] <jasonwc> The issue is that I can't terminate fiber so I would have to use patch cables and I need to run the cables between floors. I imagine that's a bad idea. :P
909[07:14:32] <orlock> I forget what the 40G's over
910[07:14:33] <jasonwc> I've already run Cat 6 and it's relatively short (~15-20 M), well within the range where 10 Gig will run fine on Cat 6
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912[07:14:52] <orlock> we have a mix of twin-coax and cat6 and fiber and other stuff
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914[07:15:22] <jasonwc> I was looking for some cheap Intel 540-T1/2 NICs but all the cheap ones are knockoffs sold from China
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916[07:15:52] <jasonwc> There are plenty of affordable fiber cards but no 10GBASE-T
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923[07:21:07] <memguy> how does debian make its changelogs for important version to version enhancement lists
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927[07:22:28] <memguy> the commit /history of a version control is overwhelmingly to much info do you guys /girls uses special tags /descriptions to filter what you deem important
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929[07:23:13] <nevyn> win 5
930[07:24:46] <memguy> what?
931[07:24:50] <memguy> is win 5
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934[07:25:38] <jmcnaught> memguy: Debian packages also have NEWS files
935[07:26:23] <memguy> what creates the news files
936[07:27:05] <memguy> I would imagine at some point it has to be some one manually doing it to determine which changes are relevent
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938[07:27:31] <jmcnaught> memguy: dch has a --news option
939[07:27:33] <memguy> I was looking at the kernel itself but ya new repo software is another thing
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941[07:28:18] <memguy> Also was having another issue i am wondering from this replaced-url
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943[07:28:19] <jmcnaught> memguy: have you looked at apt-listchanges?
944[07:29:10] <memguy> how one creates a in version off the main trunk like say 1.6 and how one creates a new branch say off 1.3 or 1.2.4.2
945[07:29:30] <memguy> i think the later is just the -r tags option in cvs
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948[07:30:58] <memguy> but i am not sure how to keep adding version to the main trunk 1.6,1.7,...etc I want to understand it
949[07:31:20] <memguy> jmnaught not really will do
950[07:31:32] <memguy> when i get the chances
951[07:32:17] <jmcnaught> memguy: are you using cvs?
952[07:32:51] <memguy> yes
953[07:34:04] <jmcnaught> because some project you want to get involved in is already using it?
954[07:34:11] <memguy> I know about -r tags and i have seen some examples of creating branches with cvs but i don't get fully how one can create them for the main trunk
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956[07:35:04] <memguy> what makes me create a branch off of 1.2.4.2 as opposed to adding 1.6
957[07:35:28] <memguy> guess i get to see a better example for me to get it
958[07:36:08] <jmcnaught> i don't use cvs. does it create branches from what's currently checked out?
959[07:37:21] <jmcnaught> there are probably some good books on cvs since it's been around for so long. if you're just using cvs for the sake of learning or a new project, i recommend using something newer like git
960[07:37:54] <memguy> ya well how do you do it in either svn or git
961[07:38:55] <jmcnaught> memguy: replaced-url
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963[07:39:40] <jmcnaught> memguy: tagging is covered in the previous chapter, check the table of contents
964[07:40:30] <nevyn> replaced-url
965[07:40:40] <memguy> well i see they have git branch to create the branch but what controls where the branch is created off of ?
966[07:40:42] <nevyn> I thought this was neat ^^
967[07:40:58] <nevyn> memguy: wherever HEAD is.
968[07:41:24] <nevyn> git makes moving around history far more straightforward than cvs imo
969[07:42:07] <memguy> but say one wants to create the branch not off the head
970[07:42:18] <nevyn> so move HEAD
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972[07:42:27] <memguy> where how can he create it say off C0 or C1
973[07:42:39] <nevyn> git checkout C1
974[07:42:39] <Sygram> anyone has any idea
975[07:42:49] <Sygram> how can i get an usb type c port to work?
976[07:42:51] <nevyn> but this is ot try #git
977[07:42:57] <memguy> I thought head was current version or top of the branches or trunk
978[07:42:57] <nevyn> work for what?
979[07:43:05] <Sygram> Im trying to display a vga screen
980[07:43:06] <nevyn> memguy: go do the tutorial
981[07:43:20] <Sygram> using an adapter
982[07:43:25] <nevyn> HEAD is the current checked out branch in git.
983[07:43:34] <nevyn> Sygram: is the adapter suported?
984[07:43:38] <memguy> you don't move head you build off it or branch off it or an earilier version from the main trunk or branchs before it
985[07:44:01] <Sygram> nevyn: yeah, it worked fine with windows
986[07:44:32] <memguy> All i am saying is how does one with git branch off different versions of the software not the head always
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988[07:45:03] <nevyn> what does dmesg say when you in git you move head
989[07:45:04] <nevyn> asdf
990[07:45:07] <nevyn> ugh
991[07:45:12] <Sygram> my laptop is the dell xps 13 9350 if that helps
992[07:45:15] <nevyn> What does git say when you plug it in?
993[07:45:17] <nevyn> ugh
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995[07:45:29] <nevyn> Sygram: What does dmesg say when you plug it in?
996[07:45:47] <nevyn> memguy: in git HEAD is the current commit you're 'on'
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998[07:46:11] <nevyn> tips of the tree are usually branches
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1000[07:46:24] <nevyn> and tags are fixed navigation points in hoistory
1001[07:46:26] <nevyn> history
1002[07:47:03] <memguy> ya and what happens if you want to go back in history or versions and create a branch of there not the head
1003[07:47:09] <memguy> thats what i am asking
1004[07:48:09] <jmcnaught> memguy: what you're asking doesn't make sense, you need to understand git a little better it seems
1005[07:49:13] <nevyn> memguy: you move HEAD
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1007[07:49:24] <nevyn> ie checkout the old commit and then git branch
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1010[07:51:04] <memguy> O so you kind of have to go back in history find oldversion say , then git checkout oldversion , then git branch myoldversion branch
1011[07:51:10] <nevyn> no
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1013[07:51:31] <babilen> Wouldn't #git be a better place for this?
1014[07:51:33] <nevyn> so 'go back in history' is what checkout oldversion does.
1015[07:51:35] <memguy> then checkout my oldversion you just created
1016[07:51:36] <nevyn> yes
1017[07:51:40] <nevyn> I've said this already
1018[07:52:00] <nevyn> 15:42 < nevyn> but this is ot try #git
1019[07:52:28] <babilen> Yeah, I see
1020[07:52:49] <babilen> memguy: Please /join #git and continue there :)
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1022[07:53:02] <memguy> Ok if thats correct i got it. Little different command wise for cvs but i think its mostly the same. Not sure you do the same thing with svn that you do for git and cvs that we are talking about
1023[07:53:14] <memguy> Ok i will leave it at that
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1027[07:56:59] <babilen> *sigh*
1028[07:57:19] <nevyn> mea culpa
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1033[07:58:49] <Sygram_> nevyn: i get a lot of info
1034[07:59:11] <Sygram_> and i used it with | tails and got this
1035[07:59:15] <Sygram_> [ 9072.074880] VFS: Can't find a Minix filesystem V1 | V2 | V3 on device sda2. [ 9072.076607] hfsplus: unable to find HFS+ superblock [ 9072.077943] qnx4: no qnx4 filesystem (no root dir). [ 9072.079004] ufs: You didn't specify the type of your ufs filesystem mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun|sunx86|44bsd|ufs2|5xbsd|old|hp|nextstep|nextstep-cd|openstep ... >>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old [ 9
1036[08:00:27] <nevyn> ugh...
1037[08:00:39] <nevyn> gist or paste.d.net (gist would be better.)
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1040[08:00:53] <nevyn> so that's not related.
1041[08:01:14] <nevyn> that's a filesystem set to auto that probably should be ntfsv3 or something
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1047[08:04:39] <Sygram_> how can I keep dmesg 'running'
1048[08:04:48] <Sygram_> I dont see any real-time changes
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1053[08:06:16] <somiaj> Sygram_: maybe watch /var/log/messages
1054[08:06:17] <Sygram_> nvm
1055[08:06:18] <Sygram_> brb
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1067[08:14:28] <Sygram_> well
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1069[08:14:32] <Sygram_> I failed
1070[08:14:58] <Sygram_> didn't find anything useful in /var/log/messages
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1073[08:15:10] <Sygram_> and var/log/dmesg says it's empty
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1076[08:17:59] <Sygram_> I'm pretty sure nothing happens when I connect the adapter to the usb
1077[08:18:09] <Sygram_> because the dmesg doesn't display anything new
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1079[08:18:19] <Sygram_> this is what lsusb shows
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1083[08:18:57] <Sygram_> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:670c Microdia Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0a5c:6412 Broadcom Corp. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
1084[08:19:51] <Sygram_> replaced-url
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1086[08:19:59] <Sygram_> for formatting i guess
1087[08:20:59] <Sygram_> could it be that my USB-C is not even mounted/detected
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1094[08:28:54] <nevyn> Sygram_: is that different with the device unplugged?
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1096[08:30:14] <Sygram_> no, it stays the same
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1098[08:33:03] <nevyn> that's not encouraging.
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1101[08:34:51] <Sygram_> im gonna do a restart
1102[08:34:56] <Sygram_> see if antyhing changes
1103[08:35:19] <Sygram_> this is the first debian login on this machine
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1150[09:08:28] <dionysus69> is snapd supported on jessie? for ubuntu snap package development?
1151[09:08:51] <dionysus69> and is it even worth diving into this ecosystem?
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1171[09:25:51] <Se7en> Is there a debian port for the Mothra web browser?
1172[09:26:00] <Se7en> Which was designed for Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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1191[09:35:16] <simbalion> I've got a desktop running Debian 8, X, and Cinnamon. I use this desktop to monitor for alerts, but when the system idles and locks the screen the alerts do not sound. Does anyone know how to fix this?
1192[09:35:53] <simbalion> Cinnamon might be irrelevant to the problem, I just thought I'd mention that I'm using it
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1198[09:39:35] <simbalion> I'm not sure if it's the audio that's shutting off, or if iceweasel stops getting updates, since it's iceweasel that sounds an alert
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1205[09:43:57] <Epakai> where are the alerts coming from? a web site that produces sound?
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1209[09:45:48] <simbalion> Yeah
1210[09:46:14] <simbalion> it doesn't use flash, btw
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1223[09:54:11] <Epakai> i really can't find much related to iceweasel or cinnamon's lock screen that would cause that
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1227[09:54:38] <simbalion> me either, which is why I thought to ask here :) But I appreciate the effort
1228[09:55:07] <Epakai> if it's iceweasel there's no obvious setting that affects this. if you're using cinnamon's lock screen maybe try using xscreensaver or something else and see if it still has the same effect
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1230[09:55:37] <simbalion> I could also try chromium, but I dont think it's installed
1231[09:56:03] <simbalion> I wonder if there's a programmatic way to see if iceweasel continues to function behind a lock screen
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1233[09:57:19] <Epakai> there's a browser console that might log such events
1234[09:57:56] <simbalion> I'm not sure how to use it
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1306[10:39:42] <sumi> hello
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1308[10:39:46] <hramrach> hello
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1312[10:40:28] <hramrach> any dd willing to sponsor httpfs2 upload?
1313[10:41:19] <sogi> hey guys. I am trying to install jessie on Dell PE server with Fusion-MPT SAS-2 [Falcon] but installer is not correctly choosing the appropriate module and keep giving up on installation afterwards
1314[10:41:23] <sogi> any idea
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1316[10:42:23] <hramrach> iirc there was an option to choose modules by hand in the installer
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1318[10:42:41] <hramrach> but I haven't used it for years
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1320[10:42:49] <Sygram> hi all
1321[10:43:04] <Sygram> does this patch only works if im using the 4.6 kernel?
1322[10:43:05] <Sygram> replaced-url
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1324[10:44:07] <hramrach> if you have the hardware you can test it ;-)
1325[10:45:13] <Sygram> k will try
1326[10:45:20] <hramrach> or you can look at the code changes between when tha patch was posted and your kernel
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1328[10:45:57] <hramrach> the acpi code does get some development so it changes over time
1329[10:46:05] <Epakai> sogi: so you need to blacklist the module you don't want loaded? see last section replaced-url
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1332[10:47:28] <Sygram> newbie question but
1333[10:47:35] <Sygram> how do I run that patch?
1334[10:47:53] <Sygram> i know I'm supposed to use patch -p1 path/to/file
1335[10:48:06] <Sygram> so should I download it first?
1336[10:48:22] <Sygram> patch -p1 < path/to/file **
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1338[10:49:35] <Iridos> also... do you enjoy compiling kernels?
1339[10:50:29] <pfote> only pussies use precompiled ones :-D
1340[10:50:40] <Iridos> *meow*
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1344[10:51:45] <Sygram> I guess not
1345[10:51:53] <Sygram> D:
1346[10:52:12] <Sygram> im pretty new to linux stuff, so I dont know much
1347[10:52:37] <Sygram> i just need to get my usb type c to work, so I can use debian as my main OS
1348[10:52:40] <Iridos> this may not the first easiest task to pick
1349[10:52:45] <bezaban> usb-c is a pain
1350[10:52:54] <Sygram> i know :/
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1352[10:52:59] <Sygram> been at it the whole day
1353[10:53:03] <Iridos> judd, kernels
1354[10:53:04] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc4-686-pae (4.7~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.3-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1)
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1356[10:53:19] <petn-randall> Sygram: Are you sure this patch isn't already in a stable kernel release? The timestamp on that mail says it was merged end of March.
1357[10:53:29] <Iridos> judd, kernels --arch amd64
1358[10:53:30] <judd> (kernels [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases.
1359[10:53:55] <Sygram> i currently have the 4.4.0 kernel
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1361[10:54:44] <Sygram> do you think they applied the patch to that version?
1362[10:55:05] <Iridos> I don't know, but it would be simple to test by installing it from backports
1363[10:55:09] <petn-randall> Sygram: Let's maybe step a little back and look at your problem.
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1365[10:55:18] <Se7en> No one answered my question earlier or I didn't catch anyone's answer
1366[10:55:29] <Se7en> Is there a port for Mothra
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1368[10:55:38] <Se7en> A web browser designed for Plan 9 from Bell Labs
1369[10:55:44] <bezaban> ,v mothra
1370[10:55:45] <judd> No package named 'mothra' was found in amd64.
1371[10:55:49] <Sygram> ok, I'm open for all suggestions
1372[10:56:00] <bezaban> Se7en: doesn't look like it
1373[10:56:01] <petn-randall> Sygram: What problem are you actually experiencing?
1374[10:56:08] <Sygram> basically, I need my usb type C to work
1375[10:56:28] <Sygram> in order to be able to use an usb-c to vga adapter
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1378[10:56:38] <Sygram> so I can use 2 screens
1379[10:56:52] <Sygram> the adapter works fine with windows
1380[10:57:10] <petn-randall> Sygram: Ok, but the patch you linked to is for fixing a bug when attaching a Ethernet dongle to a Thunderbolt port.
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1384[10:57:56] <petn-randall> Sygram: Which release are you currently running?
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1386[10:58:06] <petn-randall> distro release that is
1387[10:58:55] <Sygram> debian 8.5
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1389[10:59:15] <Sygram> yeah but I thought since the whole port wasn't working
1390[10:59:21] <Sygram> maybe that could fix my problem
1391[10:59:31] <Sygram> but i dont know to be honest
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1396[11:02:15] <Sygram> petn-randall: do you think I could get my screen to work by simply plugging it and running some xrandr command?
1397[11:02:37] <petn-randall> Sygram: Can you run 'tailf /var/log/kern.log' and then plug in the device? Send us the output you got via replaced-url
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1399[11:02:51] <petn-randall> Sygram: Depends on what the problem is.
1400[11:03:00] <Sygram> petn-randall: k, will do
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1405[11:03:49] <donoban> does anyone know how to see details of an ext4 partition (chunk size, etc...)?
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1409[11:05:08] <petn-randall> donoban: 'tune2fs', check the -l option.
1410[11:05:30] <donoban> uhm, I've just read the --help info, I'm gonna recheck ty
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1415[11:07:59] <Sygram> petn-randall: should I have seen new messages after i plugged the device?
1416[11:08:05] <Sygram> because nothing happened
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1421[11:11:01] <Sygram_> petn-randall: replaced-url
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1432[11:16:36] <Sygram> petn-randall: also my laptop is a dell xps 13 9350
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1444[11:23:29] <Zliba> is a clock skew going to mess with my kernel compilation?
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1446[11:23:49] <Iridos> Sygram, there should be new messages there and/or in the output of "dmesg" ... if there are none at all, that usually means the kernel doesn't recognize the device at all
1447[11:24:30] <Sygram> Iridos, there are none :( I already checked
1448[11:24:52] <Sygram> do you think upgrading the kernel could help?
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1450[11:25:20] <hexnewbie> Which moron thought HTTPS apt would be a good idea? *weeping*
1451[11:26:19] <Iridos> Sygram, try it, it should be easy enough. ---> replaced-url
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1454[11:26:42] <Sygram> Iridos, but in the kern.log there were new messages
1455[11:26:45] <Sygram> the last 2
1456[11:27:08] <babilen> hexnewbie: People who serve unsigned packages?
1457[11:27:18] <Sygram> here's the log replaced-url
1458[11:27:43] <hexnewbie> Maybe, but now it's impossible for me to download any jessie packages. apt-transport-https is not installed, so I can't install it, obviously........
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1461[11:28:09] <hexnewbie> It would be great if packages.debian.org had links on the package pages (not after clicking a link to the link)
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1463[11:28:34] <Sygram> Iridos, I already have the backports in my sources.list
1464[11:28:57] <Sygram> Iridos, in fact I already tried to upgrade the kernel but i got this message
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1466[11:30:00] <Zliba> when compiling a kernel, how do i use multiple CPU? make -j 8
1467[11:30:02] <Zliba> ?
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1469[11:30:19] <hexnewbie> Zliba: yes
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1473[11:31:02] <Sygram> depends: linux-base (>=4.3) but 3.5 is to be installed
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1486[11:38:25] <Iridos> Sygram, that's not something from backports ... and not a kernel.
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1489[11:42:13] <Sygram> Iridos, I tried installing linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
1490[11:42:26] <Sygram> Iridos, which gave me that error
1491[11:42:36] <Iridos> Sygram, pastebin the command you ran and the full output you get
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1494[11:43:13] <Iridos> judd, versions linux-base
1495[11:43:14] <judd> Package: linux-base on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.6.32-48squeeze6; squeeze: 2.6.32-48squeeze6; squeeze-security-lts: 2.6.32-48squeeze20; squeeze-backports: 3.4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.5; jessie: 3.5; jessie-backports: 4.3~bpo8+1; sid: 4.4; stretch: 4.4
1496[11:43:32] <Iridos> pft. backports has its own linux-base? wtf
1497[11:43:54] <Iridos> Sygram, nevermind, I get the same
1498[11:44:48] <Iridos> wtf... why would it depend on a newer linux-base
1499[11:45:45] <Sygram> Iridos, apparently I installed it. Now trying to do a reboot but it's stuck with a blinking underscore
1500[11:45:47] <Sygram> lol
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1502[11:46:26] <Iridos> Sygram, well, seems you have to install linux-base from backports first....
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1504[11:46:36] <Sygram> I did
1505[11:46:37] <Iridos> this would work: apt-get install linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 -t jessie-backports
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1508[11:48:02] <Sygram> Iridos, should I keep waiting or do a force-shutdown?
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1510[11:48:40] <Iridos> both? :)
1511[11:49:01] <Iridos> I mean... I'd wait a bit... but at some point you'll probably have little choice
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1515[11:50:00] <Sygram> k
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1520[11:53:38] <Sygram> Iridos, well the new kernel seem installed
1521[11:54:07] <Sygram> Iridos, I ran uname -r and it says "4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64"
1522[11:54:20] <Sygram> seems *
1523[11:55:18] <Sygram> usb C still doesn't work thought
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1534[12:02:10] <Iridos> maybe time to be a bit more systematic
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1537[12:04:06] <Zliba> jelly, debian can mount ufs as rw, but the kernel needs to have a module compiled in to do it. CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y
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1539[12:04:34] <Iridos> usb-c is only the new connector type, no? what you're probably looking for is usb 3.1?
1540[12:04:53] <Sygram> yeah it's the new connector
1541[12:05:01] <Iridos> I must admit... I don't have any of these new things and I don't really have the time to read up on it
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1543[12:05:25] <Iridos> but 4.6 kernels should support usb 3.1
1544[12:05:28] <Sygram> Iridos, can you tell me how to apply this patch replaced-url
1545[12:05:35] <Iridos> but possibly not your specific device
1546[12:05:43] <Sygram> I have high hopes
1547[12:06:15] <Iridos> but you don't have an ethernet dongle
1548[12:06:36] <Iridos> and you don't see anything like the kernel trace shown in the bug
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1553[12:09:04] <Iridos> but sure, I can tell you... you msg our bot with "/msg dpkg kernel handbook" and read the stuff it links to. Then you build a regular debian kernel, when that works, you apply the patch to the kernel source and rebuild. then, in a couple of days, you notice that the patch didn't have anything to do with your problem and raise your hands in frustration...
1554[12:09:27] <boser> /wc
1555[12:09:31] <Iridos> you should try to look up what the exact device is you're trying to connect
1556[12:09:32] <boser> ???
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1558[12:09:49] <Sygram> lol
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1560[12:09:59] <Sygram> look at this
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1563[12:10:06] <Sygram> this was in 4.4 kernel
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1565[12:10:16] <Sygram> Iridos, replaced-url
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1567[12:11:52] <Sygram_> Iridos, replaced-url
1568[12:12:23] <daniel-s> Hi there. For many languages there is a package manager for that particular language, e.g. pip for Python and Cabal for Haskell. In some cases there are also Debian packages. How should packages be managed given this overlap?
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1571[12:14:06] <Sygram> Iridos, the ACPI errors appear when I plug in the device
1572[12:14:36] <Sygram> they are differente tho
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1575[12:16:08] <TomTomTosch> daniel-s: if using pip it's advisable to use virtualenv to not install the packages globally but limit it to a directory.
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1584[12:21:30] <Iridos> Sygram, is that even the message you get when plugging in the device?
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1586[12:22:07] <Sygram> Iridos, when I plug in the device in only get the ACPI errors
1587[12:22:25] <Sygram> the last couple of lines
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1591[12:23:14] <Sygram> the rest of the msgs (at the top) were already there when i ran kern.log
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1613[12:40:35] <ychaouche> Hey #debian
1614[12:40:55] <monoxane> hey ychaouche
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1619[12:41:18] <monoxane> what can i (probably not) help you with?
1620[12:41:39] <erm3nda> girls
1621[12:41:54] <monoxane> ಠ_ಠ
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1623[12:42:24] <ychaouche> I'm writing and init.d script and I need to get some parameters passed to my daemon. start-stop-daemon manual page says that daemons started with --exec can be passed arguments after --, like this : start-stop-daemon --exec something -- something something. It seems it doesn't work in my case, the arguments get ignored.
1624[12:43:40] <monoxane> i cant help you with that
1625[12:43:44] <erm3nda> what if you try --exec=something ?
1626[12:43:51] <ychaouche> here's the script replaced-url
1627[12:44:15] <ychaouche> erm3nda: that's not how most scripts in /etc/init.d/ look like
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1629[12:44:34] <ychaouche> they all look like --exec something
1630[12:45:35] <erm3nda> did u wrote that?
1631[12:45:37] <erm3nda> start-stop-daemon --start --no-close -b -m --pidfile "$PIDFILE" --exec "$DAEMON" -- "$OPTIONS" || return 1
1632[12:47:02] <erm3nda> what is "start-stop-daemon" ??
1633[12:47:15] <erm3nda> is a binary? located where? at least is not the ethercal, so what is?
1634[12:47:22] <erm3nda> is the script itself?
1635[12:47:33] <ychaouche> erm3nda: that's how daemons get started, it's a binary.
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1638[12:48:01] <ychaouche> replaced-url
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1641[12:51:03] <TomTomTosch> so it gets started only without arguments being passed?
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1644[12:51:27] <ychaouche> correct
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1646[12:51:42] <ychaouche> I need to set a specific port because port 8000 is already taken
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1648[12:52:02] <ychaouche> ethercalc starts at port 8000 by default
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1650[12:52:09] <themill> (start-stop-daemon is an excellent reason to instead write a systemd unit)
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1652[12:52:44] <ychaouche> replaced-url
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1654[12:54:12] <nullbyte_> ow can i add somethings for grub command line to default to be added automatically when i run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg GRUB_CMDLINUX_DEFAULT i mean something like that but added stuff to be from another OSs (fedora, ubuntu) ?
1655[12:54:46] <ychaouche> question is unclear
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1658[12:55:34] <erm3nda> hum, seems that using --arch=armeabi desn't fully work
1659[12:55:45] <erm3nda> soon or late something does set armv7 cpu
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1687[13:08:17] <TomTomTosch> ychaouche: starting ethercalc with --port 8060 works otherwise?
1688[13:08:33] <TomTomTosch> i don't see any obvious error in your declaration.
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1690[13:09:57] <zoomgry> Hi! Installed drraw, no man page, the home page has no usage guide. I'm struggling to figure out where to look next (I'm looking for tutorials on the web, but that's moving slowly).
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1704[13:14:42] <mirazi_heket> what entry should i put in /etc/crypttab if id like to mount volume with no passphrase (no prompt on boot)
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1711[13:16:25] <ychaouche> TomTomTosch: if you mean without the init script then yes.
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1715[13:19:13] <ychaouche> zoomgry: laste version in 2009 ? the software doesn't seem to be maintained anymore
1716[13:19:34] <ychaouche> in cases like these I usually contact the author directly
1717[13:19:46] <ychaouche> look for his email in the licence or readme file
1718[13:20:01] <ychaouche> or in source file headers
1719[13:20:09] <dionysus69> is there a tool that I can use to backup my system fully with an option to launch it later on a live uSB by just changing fstab file?
1720[13:20:29] <zoomgry> ychaouche: ok. I am logging cpu temperature using lm-sensors, but it's saved in rrd format. I would like to have a simple intuitive program which can read it and produce reports (tabulated,or plots). I thought rrdtool would do that but I spent 5 minutes trying to get it to output a plot and it was not intuitive.
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1722[13:20:43] <zoomgry> I already sent them an e-mail now, too, thank you.
1723[13:21:36] <ychaouche> good. I have zero knowledge in graphing, can't help you in that field. Although I often hear people mentionning graphviz and dot files...
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1727[13:22:17] <ransur0t> dionysus69: replaced-url
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1732[13:24:39] <dionysus69> ransur0t: ok thank you ransur0t ))
1733[13:24:59] <ransur0t> yw, it's a very versatile tool
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1791[14:06:27] <dagerik> ntp service is not adjusting time correctly. ntpq -p shows only one and it is old server
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1802[14:10:34] <ychaouche> dagerik: do you have a source to synchronize to or do you wish to synchronize to a public ntp server ?
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1809[14:14:31] <dagerik> ychaouche: I have servers listed in /etc/ntp.conf
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1811[14:14:34] <dagerik> server 0.no.pool.ntp.org iburst
1812[14:14:34] <dagerik> server 1.no.pool.ntp.org iburst
1813[14:14:34] <dagerik> server 2.no.pool.ntp.org iburst
1814[14:14:34] <dagerik> server 3.no.pool.ntp.org iburst
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1817[14:14:46] <ychaouche> :D
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1820[14:15:06] <ychaouche> this is what happens when you ignore your client's advise
1821[14:15:10] <ychaouche> ce*
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1834[14:19:14] <ychaouche> dagerik: you there ?
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1839[14:22:58] <quax> Q: who is in charge for bttracker.debian.org? the version its running (hefur?) seems to be full ob bugs :(
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1842[14:24:52] <dagerik> ychaouche: yeah
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1847[14:28:20] <zyley> bittorrent reminds me about something ....many of the bittorrent debian downloads do not work
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1849[14:28:49] <ychaouche> dagerik: so, why do you say ti does not adjust time correctly ?
1850[14:28:50] <quax> afais that's because the tracker isn't protocol-correct
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1854[14:30:04] <quax> I'm playing with my own bt-client pet-project, and use some deb torrents for my tests too. The problem ist -- it sends me garbage back.
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1856[14:30:47] <quax> where a list of dictionary values is supposed (and required by spec), it sends simple a concanation of dict values
1857[14:31:24] <quax> (missing `l' tag at beginning, but(!) present `e' tag at the end)
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1867[14:44:00] <dagerik> ychaouche: because I check with other clocks on the internet and it differs by 60 sec
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1889[14:53:06] <ychaouche> did you paste the output of ntpq -p ?
1890[14:53:12] <ychaouche> dagerik: ^
1891[14:53:53] <dagerik> yeah
1892[14:53:56] <dagerik> no
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1894[14:54:20] <dagerik> ychaouche: replaced-url
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1900[14:56:32] <ychaouche> dagerik: that server doesn't seem to have ntpd running : replaced-url
1901[14:57:26] <ychaouche> did you paste your /etc/ntp.conf ?
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1919[15:10:51] <dagerik> ychaouche: here is ntp.conf: replaced-url
1920[15:11:04] <dagerik> and it's not syncing from those servers
1921[15:11:12] <dagerik> yes I have tried restarting ntp service
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1926[15:13:08] <ychaouche> ntnu-gsw-l0.net was mentioned in your ntpq -q output earlier, yet it's not in your ntp.conf file.
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1929[15:13:38] <ychaouche> when you restarted your ntp service, did you check for errors in syslog ?
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1953[15:21:09] <dagerik> ychaouche: yep. no errors
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1955[15:22:05] <ychaouche> Now that I have consumed all my reasonable guesses, there are only stupid guesses left
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2005[15:54:08] <Sepultura> Hallo
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2014[16:01:15] <Ooze> Can someone take a look at this and point me in the right direction? From my searches it looks like this module must be enabled in multiple locations? replaced-url
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2034[16:14:06] <rasperrian> Hello guys :)
2035[16:14:27] <rasperrian> i wonder... are you willing to help me even if im using raspberry pie?
2036[16:14:41] <rasperrian> Its Raspbian OS, but it is based on debian, so...
2037[16:14:42] <greycat> If you're running Debian (not Raspbian) on it, sure.
2038[16:14:59] <rasperrian> nope, its just raspbian, sorry
2039[16:15:06] <rasperrian> i dont know if debian works
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2042[16:15:59] <rasperrian> I found there is a irc channel for raspbian, too, i can try that first
2043[16:16:05] <rasperrian> sorry for the trouble man
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2051[16:17:55] <ashka> hi, I installed debian 8 and openssh-server, but systemd didn't wait for DHCP before starting sshd, is this the expected behavior by default ?
2052[16:18:05] <johnkeates> yes
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2056[16:20:33] <greycat> That's odd. My jessie box *appears* to be waiting for the network to come up before it moves on to anything else...
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2070[16:27:24] <zyley> unborn, bittorrent??? assuming yes ... i downloaded some live nonfree debian ISOs some time ago and bittorrent did not work. but now bittorrent files aren't available anymore so it's sort of fixed.
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2072[16:29:08] <rasperrian> I have a general question: my machine have both WIFI and ethernet connected to the router... they both have static IPs. So. when i log in via SSH, and download a file, will my machine use WIFI or ethernet to connect to internet and download? will it use the connection that i SSH into ?
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2075[16:29:19] <rasperrian> I find that difficult to understand
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2078[16:29:41] <greycat> It will use whichever interface is indicated by your routing table.
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2081[16:30:56] <greycat> Doesn't matter whether the download command originated from a cron job, a local terminal, an ssh connection, or anywhere else. Routing table to the destination IP tells the kernel where to send the packets.
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2083[16:31:50] <rasperrian> OK thanks
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2085[16:32:27] <rasperrian> will this work to make wlan default: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1 wlan0
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2096[16:34:58] <rasperrian> greycat: is it the /etc/network/interfaces file that tells the kernel this ?
2097[16:35:49] <greycat> That file is read by various programs that run at boot time (or when a dhcp daemon encounters certain events) to trigger various actions. It's not used by the kernel directly.
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2101[16:36:56] <rasperrian> Okey
2102[16:37:02] <rasperrian> i think i found a solution
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2104[16:37:18] <rasperrian> Just unplug the Ethernet cable, then im sure its the wifi going on
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2126[16:50:05] <RAZZZZ> hello. My partition is only 2 gb, but the disk (its USB) is 120 gb. How can i extend that partition (same as the OS drive) to be 120 gb ?
2127[16:50:12] <ychaouche> It could be that the modules are already compiled in php and need not be loaded explicitely in php.ini
2128[16:50:20] <ychaouche> Ooze: ^
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2133[16:51:05] <ychaouche> Ooze: check your php.ini and see if the extensions are explictely loaded. comment the out and run the scripts manually (don't wait for the cron) and see if the error disappears
2134[16:51:22] <RAZZZZ> By the weay great work with the Jessie debian relase, it kicks ass guys!
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2141[16:52:06] <ychaouche> Ooze: look for lines like extension=gd.so and extension=mysql.so
2142[16:52:34] <ychaouche> should be in the cli directory (/etc/php5/cli/php.ini)
2143[16:52:44] <ychaouche> since the script is run from the command line
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2147[16:55:16] <ychaouche> ashka: what happens then for statically configured interfaces ?
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2154[16:56:31] <ashka> ychaouche: it works fine on static interfaces. I don't have time to test atm so I added network-online.target to sshd and systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online, I hope it'll work on next restart
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2158[16:56:49] <[1]wasted> Hi guys!
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2161[16:57:40] <[1]wasted> Can anybody help me to configure udev to assign alway the same interface name? I would love to make my scheme according to location of the connector of the hw
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2179[17:03:29] <Misa3l2> Hola??? como estan? hay alguien que me ayude a confgurar mi opendkim?
2180[17:03:34] <greycat> !es
2181[17:03:34] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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2183[17:03:54] <Misa3l2> -.-"
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2186[17:04:03] <Misa3l2> !uk
2187[17:04:04] <dpkg> rumour has it, uk is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and comprises the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (Under ISO 3166-1, it should have been .gb not .uk, but that never quite caught on.)
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2190[17:04:09] <Misa3l2> !ch
2191[17:04:09] <dpkg> from memory, ch is Switzerland or Confoederatio Helvetica. There is also a Swiss Debian Association: replaced-url
2192[17:04:22] <Misa3l2> :V
2193[17:04:29] <RodrigoLeandro> Hello people, I havê a questionar, how do I for shutdown AMD reboot the intel baytrail tablet, I bougth a Tablet, chuwi hi8, AMD I installed Debian Stretch (testing) bit nothing of shutdown nor reboot, freeze in the and with the text: watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
2194[17:04:30] <greycat> If you want to chat with dpkg randomly, please use /msg or /query.
2195[17:04:47] <johnkeates> !nl
2196[17:04:47] <dpkg> Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl.
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2198[17:04:56] <johnkeates> !greycat
2199[17:05:02] <johnkeates> aww, he doesn't know yo
2200[17:05:06] <Misa3l2> no show error on start?
2201[17:05:20] <RodrigoLeandro> AMD=and
2202[17:05:41] <Misa3l2> i need help to configure my opendkim T_T
2203[17:05:48] <Misa3l2> spanish / englih :V
2204[17:05:58] <[1]wasted> Is there any channel for udev support?
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2206[17:06:00] <johnkeates> nah, you need help with eating those chicken nuggets
2207[17:06:03] <johnkeates> hand them over!
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2210[17:06:11] <johnkeates> udev->#linux
2211[17:06:15] <[1]wasted> tks
2212[17:06:22] <unborn> opendkim T_T what version is that?
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2237[17:13:58] <unborn> !pm
2238[17:13:58] <dpkg> somebody said pm was private message (something you don't do without asking for permission first, see <private>), or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron, or provocative/preventative/percussive maintenance, or power management (see <pm debug>)
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2240[17:14:59] <ychaouche> provocative maintenance :p
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2265[17:27:27] <koollman> hi, how would I find the documentation for the 'apt' binary? (man apt is rather empty, man apt.conf is not related). I'm looking for a way to disable the default 'clear screen after install' behavior
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2268[17:27:57] <ychaouche> I need something to eat. In the meanwhile : replaced-url
2269[17:27:58] <themill> koollman: which release of debian?
2270[17:28:07] <koollman> jessie
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2272[17:28:19] <themill> "man apt" is hardly empty
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2275[17:29:14] <koollman> well, there are whole 4 options documented. and then it refers to configuration variables that are from apt.conf
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2278[17:30:45] <themill> man apt.conf is also not unrelated.
2279[17:30:52] <themill> Maybe you could just ask your real question?
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2286[17:32:12] <koollman> that's the second part of the sentence. Is there a way to disable the default behavior of "send clear screen after apt install stuff"
2287[17:32:34] <avc> hello!
2288[17:32:35] <greycat> huh?
2289[17:32:41] <themill> koollman: I know of no such behaviour
2290[17:32:52] <greycat> There is nothing that clears the screen after an apt-get command. By default anyway.
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2304[17:35:10] <Hobart> When I purge an old Kernel package, because I have added components that use dkms (either zfs or custom video drivers), it kicks off a full build/compile of the kernel modules before removing it. Is there something I'm doing wrong? :) For deleting packages, a rebuild seems excessive
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2307[17:35:44] <jhutchins> greycat: He's actually asking about apt, not apt-get, and apt may behave differently.
2308[17:36:16] <koollman> yes
2309[17:36:31] <greycat> oh, he's one of the 5 people in the whole world who use apt(1)?
2310[17:36:45] <greycat> sorry, (8)
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2312[17:37:15] <greycat> What specific command are you running which clears the screen?
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2316[17:37:55] * greycat tries "apt update" and is slightly nauseated by the mustard-yellow text of the bottom line against the terminal's sane white background
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2318[17:38:50] * greycat tries "apt list --upgradable" next as hinted. Neither of these commands cleared the screen.
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2324[17:39:51] <johnkeates> I use apt too
2325[17:39:53] <koollman> I'm trying to debug it and I think it's terminal related.
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2327[17:40:21] <koollman> any apt install, for a new package. apt purge sl ; apt install sl.
2328[17:40:53] <Misa3l2> someone who wants to help me with my opendkim?
2329[17:40:57] <greycat> Damn, so I have to do something *intrusive* to test it.
2330[17:41:23] <Misa3l2> e ts dmarc the firm have spf and everything else, but I get to spam
2331[17:41:23] <themill> I tried it with sl 10 min ago and it didn't clear the terminal
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2333[17:42:00] <koollman> yep it does not clear the screen in a linux console. it does from one of my term ... not from a different one. I suspect the way the progress bar is displayed matters. meh
2334[17:42:03] <greycat> koollman: what *exactly* are you typing? Are you typing it as root, or as a regular user with "sudo", or something else?
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2337[17:42:45] <bezaban> Misa3l2: any specific providers? I recently had to have hotmail remove me since they'd blocked a whole range
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2339[17:43:16] <Misa3l2> i test gmail
2340[17:43:21] <Misa3l2> :(
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2342[17:43:28] <bezaban> they said I was removed for a 'trial period' and that their blocking 'likely wasn't a mistake', but I am the only user on that mail server and have been for many years, so.. yeeah'
2343[17:43:45] <bezaban> Misa3l2: PTR records good?
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2346[17:44:09] <Misa3l2> yes
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2348[17:44:11] <Misa3l2> and rdns
2349[17:44:12] <bezaban> and SPF/DMARC validate? Could the MTA be using ipv6 which doesn't have said records?
2350[17:44:19] <Misa3l2> yes ia validated
2351[17:44:26] <koollman> apt purge -y sl; apt install -y sl ... and ... it seems sensible inside xterm, too. meh. So, terminfo is strange. sorry for the initial question, I will have to find a better term :)
2352[17:44:26] <apt> koollman: I think you lost me on that one
2353[17:44:33] <koollman> :)
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2356[17:44:51] <bezaban> Misa3l2: did you look at a raw email header in gmail?
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2360[17:45:22] <bezaban> email setup is getting quite tedious..
2361[17:45:29] <Misa3l2> bezaban
2362[17:45:29] <bezaban> ugh. phone. brb
2363[17:45:30] <Misa3l2> you send private message
2364[17:45:39] <teraflops> Misa3l2: mail is a headache, did you look at the headers of one of those emails for any clue, also the logs on the server side? you just said it gets to spam which can be caused by a bunch of reason, I wish you good luck
2365[17:46:00] <koollman> (yay, term not cleared from inside 'screen' program. definitely termcaps strangeness)
2366[17:46:00] <bezaban> Misa3l2: it will be much more helpful if you do it in the channel, then everyone can see what you have and have not checked
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2369[17:46:25] <bezaban> but yeah, I'll check that pastebin
2370[17:46:26] <Misa3l2> ok look
2371[17:46:27] <Misa3l2> this header
2372[17:46:28] <Misa3l2> replaced-url
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2374[17:46:46] <Misa3l2> cp.idata.com.ve is my domain
2375[17:46:56] <jhutchins> !es
2376[17:46:56] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
2377[17:48:02] <Misa3l2> bezm
2378[17:48:11] <bezaban> Misa3l2: it all looks good really. It could be as easy as the HTML content..
2379[17:48:12] <Misa3l2> bezaban
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2381[17:48:25] <Misa3l2> dkim=pass dkim=pass spf=pass dmarc=pass
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2383[17:48:30] <Misa3l2> selector default
2384[17:48:31] <bezaban> Misa3l2: yeah :/
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2394[17:49:06] <Misa3l2> T_T
2395[17:49:42] <bezaban> Misa3l2: localhost.localdomain may also trigger spam filters if I am not mistaken
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2398[17:50:05] <teraflops> jhutchins: why did you call the debian-es factoid?
2399[17:50:06] <Misa3l2> I see everything properly configured. I do not understand what happens achievement
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2402[17:50:16] <bezaban> I know, mail is annoying
2403[17:50:24] <bezaban> war over. spammers won.
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2407[17:51:00] <bezaban> Misa3l2: have you checked block lists?
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2409[17:51:11] <Misa3l2> yes is clean
2410[17:51:18] <Misa3l2> the ip
2411[17:51:38] <Misa3l2> look the result of spam cheker
2412[17:51:40] <Misa3l2> replaced-url
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2415[17:52:36] <pierre365> hi!
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2418[17:53:58] <Misa3l2> bezaban i send a email from my terminal and look this root <root@cp.idata.com.ve> :O
2419[17:54:07] <Misa3l2> and spam T_T
2420[17:54:08] <Misa3l2> xD
2421[17:54:48] <pierre365> for work i had to install windows 10 on my computer as a dual boot on top of my previous debian install. So I made a primary ntfs partition, installed windows, recovered grub and rebooted on debian. but now update-grub can not find the windows partition, and grub-install /dev/sdxY gives me "grub-install: warning: File system `ntfs' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not
2422[17:54:54] <pierre365> possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged." anyone has an idea please?
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2428[17:58:05] <teraflops> pierre365: beacuse youre doing it wrong
2429[17:58:31] <pierre365> teraflops: ah? it's been a while i didn't do that so that might be possible...
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2435[17:58:52] <pierre365> teraflops: how to make grub detect windows partition?
2436[17:58:59] <teraflops> pierre365: /dev/sdaY installs grub in a partition not the mbr
2437[17:59:17] <pierre365> yeah so i tried /dev/sda first
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2439[17:59:38] <teraflops> or if youre doing uefi tell grub where the ESP is
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2441[17:59:45] <pierre365> teraflops: ah ok i see so /dev/sdaY doesn't make sense i see
2442[17:59:57] <pierre365> teraflops: but how to tell grub where to find windows then?
2443[18:00:10] <teraflops> pierre365: sorry?
2444[18:00:53] <pierre365> pierre365: i mean, so grub is on my mbr. great that's waht i want. but how to tell him to run windows boot manager?
2445[18:01:01] <teraflops> you do update-grub, with os prober intalled it *detects* other OSes
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2448[18:02:34] <teraflops> pierre365: if you install grub in /dev/sdxy and you reboot the computer it will not start grub, unless that's the UEFI esp and you did not clarified that point yet
2449[18:02:43] <pierre365> teraflops: thanks..... i missed os-prober.....
2450[18:02:50] <teraflops> ok
2451[18:02:58] <teraflops> s/ok/np
2452[18:03:04] <pierre365> hehe
2453[18:03:27] * pierre365 is rebooting on windows :(
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2457[18:04:24] <bezaban> Misa3l2: there is replaced-url
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2466[18:08:41] <Misa3l2> bezaban 3 test per days
2467[18:08:47] <Misa3l2> i exeded the limit xD
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2469[18:09:33] <Misa3l2> y domifi the hosts and look now Received: from cp.idata.com.ve (cp.idata.com.ve [127.0.0.1])
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2475[18:12:41] <teraflops> if you do spamassasin … spam filters rules are silly same as all those guys spamhaus at the head making things a clusterfuck. e.g if your email subject is short or if the content is not properly formatted, or if you say shit it subtracts points and so on
2476[18:14:26] <Misa3l2> ummmm
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2478[18:14:44] <Misa3l2> I understand I'll get back to testing
2479[18:15:47] <Misa3l2> i edit the hosts now Received: from cp.idata.com.ve (cp.idata.com.ve [162.208.8.136])
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2482[18:16:10] <nyuszika7h> installer is telling me httpredir.debian.org does not support jessie
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2484[18:16:16] <nyuszika7h> but I'm using it on my server without problem...
2485[18:16:39] <teraflops> tried using a real server instead httpredir
2486[18:16:44] <TheSpiderPig> any suggestions for upgrading from squeeze to newest version of debian?
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2489[18:16:51] <TheSpiderPig> like i just want it do do it inplace
2490[18:17:07] <themill> You need to upgrade to wheezy and then jessie
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2552[18:37:12] * awal1 Wonders why 'cryptotokenextension' is installed by default in debian chromium and if it's from a secure source...
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2555[18:38:42] <babilen> awal1: I'm sure it reports directly to some TLA
2556[18:39:31] <WormFood> awal1, that is what was recommended by the FBI, CIA, DEA, KGB and MI6
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2558[18:39:43] <WormFood> oh yeah, and the TLA
2559[18:39:44] <unborn> Misa3l2: whats the domain that emails going to spam?
2560[18:39:46] <WormFood> :P
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2563[18:40:14] <Misa3l2> cp.idata.com.ve idata.com.ve
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2565[18:40:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o babilen
2566[18:40:27] <Misa3l2> cp.idata.com.ve is my server postfix
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2570[18:40:30] <awal1> babilen, TLA?
2571[18:40:32] *** babilen sets mode: -o babilen
2572[18:40:34] <awal1> whats that?
2573[18:40:39] <babilen> argh
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2576[18:41:00] <WormFood> You really don't know?
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2578[18:41:19] <WormFood> Three Letter Acronym...What I just listed off previously.
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2581[18:41:50] <awal1> yeah, just googled it, can mean cia, fbi, dst, kgb,...
2582[18:42:24] <awal1> how to remove it completly ?
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2586[18:43:28] <awal1> one can disable it but no option for remove it
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2589[18:43:58] <WormFood> You need a revolution to remove the TLAs
2590[18:44:40] <awal1> :D
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2596[18:45:39] <awal1> I dont find useful info googling about that extension, apart some technical discussions in google world
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2601[18:47:52] <awal1> hmmm, that's why firefox-esr/iceweasel has always been my main web browser, I have chromium only bcoz of some movie website which require flash and use it only for that
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2603[18:48:06] <qzio> hi, I'm trying to install debian on a machine running kvm, I have 3 guests already installed but today I can't install a new one. I keep getting "Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting."
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2605[18:48:25] <qzio> my google-fu have not given me an answer for this problem..
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2607[18:48:45] <awal1> I dont know why, but I'm always suspicious about google stuff, no matters if is open source or non-free pkgs
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2609[18:49:17] <WormFood> Maybe that is the real reason why Google is banned in China.
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2612[18:50:30] <awal1> I believe debian DD's won't enable/include weird stuff in chromium
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2887[19:41:02] <fredl> hi guys, I'm trying to make Apache listen to an IPv6 address only
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2889[19:41:46] <fredl> So I follow some documentation, add <VirtualHost [2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae]:80> to my vhost definition
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2891[19:42:08] <fredl> but it gives The address or port is invalid
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2916[19:52:33] <lasdam> hello. I'm wondering what's going on with apt when I install package A, install package B, remove package B (and I seem to have to answer "yes" to removing all of its dependencies as well), running apt-get autoremove (reason 1: else I'll be bugged with the autoremove notice indefinitely, reason 2: I assume it frees up space by removing unneeded dependencies from package B), and package A is unintentionally and unwittingly removed in
2917[19:52:33] <lasdam> the process. anyone knows why this happens and what the workaround is?
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2944[20:03:57] <sine0> quick question, debian headless, via DHCP, now I want to specify which address i get from teh DHCP, i suppose I create a static ?
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2952[20:08:04] <pi__> hey!
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2955[20:08:27] <pi__> does anyone here knows how to install debian on a USB stick ?
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2958[20:08:46] <pi__> When I do it, it just does not boot, so I guess there is an additionnal step I'm missing
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2963[20:09:14] <mtn> pi__: do you mean install the iso to the usb, or a complete install of debian to the usb?
2964[20:09:16] <pi__> I install grub on the /dev/sdX of the usb stick ; is there more to do ?
2965[20:09:24] <pi__> a complete install
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2968[20:09:44] <mtn> pi__: your machine does legacy boot, not uefi?
2969[20:09:49] <pi__> I thought it would be the same as on a regular hdd
2970[20:09:52] <pi__> yup legacy
2971[20:10:25] <mtn> pi__: is usb first in your boot order?
2972[20:10:27] <pi__> and thought all I get is a black screen and a blinking prompt
2973[20:10:54] <mtn> pi__: oh, so it does boot, but fails with a black screen?
2974[20:10:59] <pi__> yes, I also did boot on it from a boot selection menu, and select the "usb flash" one, not the "EFI:usb" one.
2975[20:11:10] <pi__> mtn, seems
2976[20:11:28] <mtn> pi__: that is a video driver problem. try booting with nomodeset in the kernel line
2977[20:11:53] <pi__> mhmmm
2978[20:12:04] <pi__> a video problem ? Why not giving a tty then ?
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2980[20:12:21] <mtn> pi__: doesn't work that way ;)
2981[20:12:28] <pi__> mhhhhhhhm
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2983[20:12:38] <mtn> pi__: or do you mean you tried ctrl+alt+F2 or similar?
2984[20:12:43] <pi__> I'll look how to nomodeset
2985[20:12:47] <pi__> sure I did
2986[20:12:50] <pi__> does nothing
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2989[20:13:04] <mtn> pi__: hmm, some video cards cause a problem like this. what is your card?
2990[20:13:07] <pi__> It's like if it was a pre-tty
2991[20:13:41] <pi__> I tried on two different desktop, one amd, the other nvidia, and also from a virtualbox :o
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2994[20:14:20] <pi__> mhm
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2996[20:14:21] <mtn> pi__: you could also remove the quiet and splash from the kernel line to see the error messages
2997[20:14:48] <up2late> pi__: u using debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst?
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2999[20:15:05] <pi__> aye up2late
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3001[20:15:11] <up2late> hmm
3002[20:15:18] <up2late> mine went in fine on 17 year old hardwre
3003[20:15:24] <up2late> amd box
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3005[20:15:45] <pi__> mtn, I'm not very used to play with these
3006[20:15:54] <pi__> it's a /etc/something line ?
3007[20:16:12] <mtn> pi__: not too hard to do. any change you make to the kernel line at boot time is not permanent, so no worries
3008[20:16:33] <mtn> pi__: no, I mean in the boot menu that comes up when you boot
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3010[20:16:45] <pi__> what boot menu ?
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3012[20:16:54] <mtn> pi__: sorta like this: replaced-url
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3014[20:17:40] <pi__> mhm
3015[20:18:03] <pi__> this is a good question, I have no idea if grub is working, let's try that
3016[20:18:23] <mtn> pi__: yes, grub is working, otherwise you would not get as far as you do ;)
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3020[20:19:12] <TheSpiderPig> guess who tried upgrading debian without a backup
3021[20:19:24] <mtn> do we get three guesses?
3022[20:19:27] <TheSpiderPig> and who actually has a backup sitting in cold storage (thank god)
3023[20:19:43] <TheSpiderPig> its running on squeeze
3024[20:19:48] <TheSpiderPig> tried upgradinmg
3025[20:19:52] <TheSpiderPig> the whole thing went to shit real fast
3026[20:19:58] <TheSpiderPig> slowly walks away
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3028[20:21:20] <pi__> mtn, mhm, grub does not show up pushing "shift"
3029[20:22:19] <pi__> this is confusing, before loading the bios, there is also a prompt blinking on a black screen, quite similar. I'm not sure if theses two are the same :/
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3032[20:24:17] <mtn> pi__: it is also possible something basic is wrong with your install
3033[20:24:42] <mtn> pi__: not grub, but a bad install
3034[20:24:51] <pi__> m'well
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3036[20:25:09] <leba2> Do you know if there were bugs in Samba 4 3 or 4 months ago on Debian 8.4?
3037[20:25:12] <pi__> this is possible, but I thought I knew the basic of this, I'm not new in this
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3041[20:25:38] <pi__> thought it the first time a try on a USB stick, but nobody seem to think it has something different
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3047[20:27:43] <mtn> pi__: I have never tried it, so not sure how well it works
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3054[20:29:16] <Samereabelvar> ha
3055[20:29:51] <Samereabelvar> maybe it's about gpt not being handled with usb... Well or not. I don't know. Nobody did this ? X_X
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3060[20:30:59] <Samereabelvar> tiens
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3067[20:33:27] <leba2> Do you know if there were bugs in Samba 4 3 or 4 months ago on Debian 8.4?
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3071[20:34:34] <mtn> leba2: debian has a bug tracker
3072[20:35:03] <leba2> thanks
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3079[20:37:15] <leba2> Is there a bug search in bug tracker? I mean, I'm trying to find if there was a bug with samba4 3 or 4 months ago.
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3082[20:38:24] <greycat> !jessie samba
3083[20:38:24] <dpkg> A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <replaced-url
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3101[20:43:51] <leba2> Thanks graycat. Hope it's that... I was told to look for a bug that affected Samba 4 which had to be solved by updating to testign release Stretch
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3138[20:56:02] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out if a kernel image is GZ or XZ compressed?
3139[20:56:52] <vlt> And is there a way to take an XZ image and re-compress it as GZ without having to completely recompile it?
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3141[20:57:14] <tremon> vlt: file can tell you
3142[20:57:40] <vlt> tremon: file says "executable bzImage"
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3146[20:58:15] <tremon> hmm, I had thought it would have mentioned the compression method too
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3148[20:58:33] <tremon> oh that's only for initramfs, apparently
3149[20:58:53] <greycat> I believe the first part of the kernel (which is what file(1) reads) is uncompressed.
3150[20:59:06] <greycat> Has to be so it can be executed.
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3152[20:59:48] <tremon> yes. simply uncompressing and recompressing will never work unless you split it between early-kernel and payload again
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3155[21:00:47] <vlt> The x/y problem here is that the current Debian 8 kernel doesn’t boot on one of our Xen dom0 (a rather old Xen 4.1.2 installation) as domU :-/
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3162[21:02:01] <tremon> you think that's because of the compression method? it may be (I have no experience with xen) but it's one of last things I'd have thought of
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3168[21:05:32] <vlt> tremon: #xen thinks it
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3171[21:06:18] <tremon> well one would assume they know a thing or two about xen :)
3172[21:06:26] <vlt> tremon: They know that XZ support was added in a later version. We have other machines with newer xen where Debian 8 works just fine.
3173[21:06:44] <tremon> I think you're stuck with a kernel rebuild
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3176[21:07:35] <vlt> Can I install a different kernel? Is there a "legacy" kernel version in the official repos?
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3178[21:07:48] <greycat> You can add a wheezy source if you want a wheezy kernel.
3179[21:07:51] <tremon> even if you were able to split the compressed and uncompressed parts, you might still end up with a kernel that only knows how to uncompress itself using the old method
3180[21:08:45] <vlt> hmmm
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3184[21:09:37] <vlt> I think I’ll have to update the xen host then. Via serial from 200 km away. Fun!
3185[21:09:58] <vlt> Thanks, tremon and greycat!
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3190[21:12:40] <ppkk> Can anyone explain a simple reality of gpg keys? The host name of both public and private keys are the same. ???
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3193[21:13:24] <ppkk> gpg --list-keys is the same as gpg --list-private-keys
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3196[21:13:55] <mutante> ppkk: gpg: Invalid option "--list-private-keys"
3197[21:14:08] <ppkk> E.g., 6382285E. This seems weird, since I don't want to give away the private key. Just want to make sure.
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3200[21:14:53] <mutante> ppkk: --list-secret-keys
3201[21:15:10] <mutante> and no, the output is not the same
3202[21:15:18] <ppkk> gpg --list-secret-keys
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3204[21:15:38] <mutante> that just tells you which private keys you have imported
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3206[21:15:55] <mutante> for me --list-keys is a lot more, since i have keys from other people
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3208[21:16:06] <mutante> where of course i dont have their private keys
3209[21:16:14] <ppkk> I just did gpg --key-gen so I didn't import anything.
3210[21:16:27] <mutante> in that situation it happens to be the same, yea
3211[21:16:30] <ppkk> I just did gpg ---gen-key
3212[21:16:37] <mutante> simply because you have no other keys besides your onw
3213[21:16:39] <mutante> own
3214[21:16:43] <ppkk> Okay making sure.
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3217[21:17:42] <ppkk> It's safe to use it and share it then...and I can make a revocation with it too?
3218[21:18:15] <XndrK> I am trying to update Flash for Chromium on Debian Jessie and have downloaded a file called "flash_player_ppapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz". I extracted it and found a folder containing the LGPL, two files "libpepflashplayer.so", "manifest.json", and the README, which said nothing on where to put them. Where do I put them so Chromium can access them and I have an updated Flash version/
3219[21:18:16] <XndrK> ?
3220[21:18:18] <mutante> ppkk: yes, but i would recommend to let your key expire after a year or something. don't let it be valid until forever
3221[21:18:41] <ppkk> Agreed.
3222[21:18:44] <mutante> ppkk: then make the revocation cert, store it in a safe place.. upload key to keyserver
3223[21:18:57] <mutante> ppkk: then you can tell others the keyid and they just get it from server
3224[21:20:37] <ppkk> And what if I want to use the same key for two "user" accounts? Can I copy .gnupg directory, provided perms are the same to the other user ?
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3228[21:21:34] <mutante> ppkk: you can copy it, but using separate keys per user seems cleaner solution
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3230[21:22:20] <mutante> ppkk: also, you can have multiple subkeys on one key..btw
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3234[21:23:24] <ppkk> I'm not as knowledgeable with subkeys. How can that help?
3235[21:23:29] <XndrK> any help?
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3244[21:26:49] <awal1> any tool for find out the exact color name/format (hex triplets in RGB format) used by X gtk2/3-qt theme?
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3246[21:27:49] <ppkk> Oh: "subkeys are like a separate key pair, but automatically associated with your main key pair." Hmmm, I suppose you can import then, export, etc
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3255[21:30:53] <awal1> Xndrk, you are talking about pepperflashplugin-nonfree of chromium?
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3259[21:33:44] <tacomaster1> Hello I was wondering, is there a way to fully uninstall gnome 3 and all dependencies? Basically i want to switch to mate desktop but with out all the un-needed dependencies.
3260[21:34:20] <tacomaster1> could i just apt-get autoremove gnome?
3261[21:34:26] <abrotman> try it and see ...
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3263[21:34:33] <greycat> bot has a factoid for removing gnome 2.x but not for 3.x yet
3264[21:34:41] <abrotman> because why would you want to?!
3265[21:34:47] <abrotman> tacomaster1: you can also use tasksel perhaps
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3268[21:36:25] <tacomaster1> abrotman: I am not a big fan of gnome 3 and i just don't want a bunch of unused packages on my machine. Does mate support composite?
3269[21:36:46] <awal1> Xndrk, you don't need to download stuff from the web. If you are running chromium + pepperflashplugin-nonfree (amd64 arch), just run as root: update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install (--status for check versions installed/available). If your arch is i386 (32 bit), so forget it, google has dropped support for 32b.
3270[21:36:47] <abrotman> FIIK, I'd prefer the MATE based on gtk2 would die in a fiery crash
3271[21:37:15] <abrotman> tacomaster1: if you installed it with tasksel, it should be able to remove it also
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3275[21:38:41] <tacomaster1> abrotman: would this be best to switch to tty1 before doing this with tasksel?
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3277[21:38:53] <awal1> tacomaster1, mate supports compositing yes, (at least in stretch/sid version)
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3279[21:39:14] <tacomaster1> awal1: I'm on debian stable
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3283[21:40:13] <awal1> tacomaster1, you can remove all gnome stuff, but that will not be easy, many pkgs (almost gtk2/3 ones based have deps or recommends on gnome stuff
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3285[21:40:52] <greycat> I think he's OK with leaving libs that are used by *other* applications
3286[21:40:56] <awal1> if you want we can try :P
3287[21:40:59] <greycat> Maybe.
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3289[21:41:08] <abrotman> tacomaster1: yes, use the tty, and make sure your sshd is working
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3291[21:41:28] <awal1> also mate and gnome share many stuff
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3294[21:41:48] <tacomaster1> Brb ill tell you how it goes :D
3295[21:41:49] <abrotman> tacomaster1: if you want, you can purge base X libraries, watch all Xorg/Gnome-ish things be purged, then install the xorg and mate packages
3296[21:42:10] <abrotman> tacomaster1: also, you might want to install irssi so you can IRC from the console if needed
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3298[21:42:37] <abrotman> or just go away and let 'er rip ...
3299[21:42:38] <tacomaster1> abrotman: ahh i got a few computers near me. i can irc on any of them
3300[21:42:41] <abrotman> oh k
3301[21:42:42] <abrotman> :)
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3305[21:44:09] <awal1> tacomaster1, in stable branch (jessie, now) packages are not upgraded (execpt security or important functionality stuff); for avoid losing your time, I suggest you install mate desktop just alongside gnome and use it as default; gnome will be there if any...
3306[21:44:35] <abrotman> that has nothing to do with his question ..
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3313[21:46:37] <awal1> well, if he wants to remove it, thats not a big deal. the factoid for gnome2 is perfectly appliable for gnome3, with a bit of extra commands
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3324[21:51:09] <pi__> hello
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3345[21:56:55] <afx_> Hello ! Can i use rsync with /source1 /destination1 /source2 /destination2 ?
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3347[21:57:44] <greycat> Sounds like you want to run two separate rsyncs, either in series or in parallel.
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3351[21:58:48] <afx_> greycat, shall I use a script for this ? would like to do this serially
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3354[21:59:25] <greycat> rsync /source1 /destination1 ; rsync /source2 /destination2
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3358[21:59:46] <afx_> thank you !
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3369[22:04:16] <tacomaster1> well it installed mate but it did not remove gnome 3 when i unselected it
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3372[22:05:27] <afx_> greycat, I am syncing from a remote machine with rsync -avP user@ip:/source/dir /local/dir . Is there a way I can pass the password for the remote too ?
3373[22:05:36] <tacomaster1> plus i have some weird thing happening where i have to manually go back to x. Its like when i boot now i get a black screen with no prompts but i have to ctrl+alt+f7 to see gdm
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3376[22:07:06] <greycat> afx_: after you get tired of typing the passphrase for your private key over and over, you learn how to set up ssh-agent and ssh-add
3377[22:07:28] <greycat> (If you haven't got from "password" to "passphrase for your private key" yet, then first you make that step.)
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3386[22:09:45] <afx_> greycat, so I have to setup an ssh-agend?
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3392[22:11:26] <awal1> tacomaster1, gnome3 is called 'gnome', a metapackages which installs all gnome stuff
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3398[22:12:18] <awal1> he left, :P
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3432[22:26:20] <x86iac> noone with problems? eh? or did you pawn all the trouble makers off onto ubuntu? ;)
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3440[22:31:29] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: I've got a problem, I was gonna to just google the solution, but If you insist... how I can provide a -jX option to make running by debuild
3441[22:32:06] <Fat-Zer> and how to disable the test phase?
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3458[22:37:34] <maurer> Is there a way to tell debian that some of the repos I've added to sources.list do not have all the archs I use on my system?
3459[22:38:00] <maurer> My system is sometimes used for some cross-work, so it fetches things from e.g. arm and mips in a default apt-get update
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3461[22:38:20] <maurer> but some repos I've added provide only x86 packages, and I'd prefer for apt-get update to not error, since this is expected
3462[22:38:46] <x86iac> Fat-Zer: is the solution really on google?
3463[22:38:51] <TomTomTosch> maurer: deb [arch=amd64,i386] <url ...>
3464[22:39:00] <maurer> TomTomTosch: thanks
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3467[22:41:18] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: I found DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=4" on slashdon, bat haven't tried it yet...
3468[22:41:40] <Fat-Zer> *on ask ubuntu
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3470[22:42:25] <Fat-Zer> *ment stackoverflow not slashdot
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3472[22:42:40] <Fat-Zer> *but haven't
3473[22:43:17] <Neville> Anybody familar with monitor calibration with 8.5 and xfce desktop? I am using Displaycal and will add a dispwin command in the /etc/rc.local
3474[22:43:53] <x86iac> Fat-Zer: i'm guessing you have a typo error in the command ;)
3475[22:44:19] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: m?
3476[22:45:52] <x86iac> you have 5 cpus?
3477[22:46:09] <x86iac> i think it is j = number of cpus - 1
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3480[22:47:18] <spacebug^> in which package is the command "file" ?
3481[22:47:26] <RoyK> x86iac: I read some time back that using -j$(( ncores + 1 )) would be a god idea
3482[22:47:49] <RoyK> spacebug^: file: /usr/bin/file
3483[22:48:07] <RoyK> spacebug^: from dpkg -S /usr/bin/file
3484[22:48:33] <spacebug^> RoyK: yeah but from which package do I install it?
3485[22:48:38] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: it's number of cpus + 1, not minus
3486[22:48:41] <RoyK> spacebug^: file
3487[22:48:53] <Fat-Zer> oh
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3489[22:49:12] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: oh, sure, a typo overthere...
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3492[22:49:25] <spacebug^> RoyK: ah ok.. sorry :)
3493[22:50:00] <RoyK> x86iac: ncpus + 1, since some time is always spent on I/O
3494[22:51:00] <RoyK> x86iac: or ncpus + n if you have a lot of cores (and slow I/O)
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3505[22:54:22] <teraflops> notify-osd is fine too
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3507[22:54:30] <teraflops> ooops
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3518[22:57:14] <Fat-Zer> ok, where I can find the list of options may be passed throw DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS?
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3521[22:57:59] <fredl> hmm....
3522[22:58:15] <fredl> anybody around with great big ipv6 skills?
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3524[22:58:28] <fredl> because I just don't understand this shit anymore
3525[22:58:44] <ajp-tech> Hello, I try to make the lvm2 running on debian Jessie but I am in huge troubles even enabling the service. I see just an error message 'Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory'. I would appreciate any advice here.
3526[22:59:11] <fredl> I have a bridge interface, it has a Scope:Global ip6 address
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3531[22:59:52] <fredl> when I ping it from outside my network I do see ICMP6 echo requests coming in
3532[22:59:58] <fredl> (with tcpdump)
3533[23:00:09] <fredl> I just never see any replies being sent back
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3535[23:00:13] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: when exactly do you see this message?
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3537[23:00:47] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: when running 'systemctl enable lvm2'
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3543[23:01:24] <x86iac> fredl: check the /etc/sysctl.conf for net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all=0
3544[23:01:29] <ajp-tech> ajp-tech: I have feeling like I miss some kind of dependecy but I have no idea what could that be. The lvm2 package is installed.
3545[23:01:32] <x86iac> ipv6
3546[23:01:46] <ascended> using /etc/network/interfaces can i have it on DHCP but override the DNS servers and DNS search?
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3550[23:02:34] <x86iac> ascended: /etc/nsswitch and /etc/resolv.conf
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3552[23:02:44] <fredl> it's not in there x86iac
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3554[23:03:03] <ascended> resolv.conf says not to edit
3555[23:03:27] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: have you tried to just reboot (if you can)? AFAIK most of units on debian are created dnamicly as just wraps around /etc/init.d scripts
3556[23:03:38] <x86iac> are you using dhcpcd? then the -R will not overwrite it - dhcp overwrites it is all
3557[23:03:44] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: also, when I try to start the lvm2 services, I got into troubles with lvm-activation.service which does not start
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3559[23:03:56] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: rebooting does not help me unfortunately
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3562[23:04:14] <fredl> this ipv6 stuff is really driving me apeshit :/
3563[23:04:27] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: the activation and activation-early fail to start ... I will provide journalctl output somewhere
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3565[23:04:34] <x86iac> does your isp really use it?
3566[23:05:56] <fredl> x86iac - yes they do
3567[23:06:01] <fredl> check my whois
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3569[23:06:38] <fredl> other than the ICMP6, when I try telnetting into a port also see packets coming in but nothing goes out
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3574[23:07:05] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: lvm2 script makes nothing more but "vgchange -aay" can you run it yourself?
3575[23:07:13] <fredl> I have to say... I'm NOT sure about the routing I configured
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3578[23:08:18] <x86iac> fredl: you have firewall up?
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3581[23:08:35] <x86iac> are you able to browser out?
3582[23:09:03] <fredl> x86iac - I did but took that down for now
3583[23:09:07] <fredl> replaced-url
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3585[23:09:14] <holycow> hi all. systemd seems to start up services just fine at startup. however, i cannot use sysctl restart whatever.service on any service for some reason. i get sysctl: cannot stat / pro/sys
3586[23:09:19] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: I get ' device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: Invalid argument
3587[23:09:31] <holycow> i'm not googling anything useful. anyone have any tips on what to look at next?
3588[23:09:33] <hassoon> wtf
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3590[23:09:44] <hassoon> why has notify-osd command disappeared
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3592[23:09:58] <hassoon> it's installed but the cli doesn't recognize it
3593[23:09:59] <fredl> x86iac, I'm using replaced-url
3594[23:10:14] <fredl> That *does* say that all my ports are being filtered
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3599[23:10:33] <fredl> So logically speaking I'd say maybe something in my router somewhere
3600[23:10:43] <jhutchins> fredl: Possibly not getting passed by your router, yeah.
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3602[23:10:50] <fredl> however, ip6 packets do come through the router to my server
3603[23:11:04] <fredl> just my debian box does not talk back
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3605[23:11:44] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: hm... that sounds strange... aren't you running ownbuild kernel?
3606[23:11:55] <holycow> nm, i'm an idiot. sorry for the noise.
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3611[23:13:09] <fredl> I bet it's ufw doing something weird, even after I disabled it there are still iptables entries
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3621[23:15:18] <x86iac> did you flush the rules?
3622[23:15:20] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: I have not installed the machine myself, but afaik just the graphical installation with default options was used.
3623[23:15:43] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: I am surprised that it has not had the lvm2 installed by default but that was it
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3625[23:15:57] <fredl> x86iac, nope, just ufw disable
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3629[23:16:22] <leba2> Does Samba Debian package come with init scripts, or do I have to do this replaced-url
3630[23:16:27] <ascended> hmm so how can i add a DNS server when using DHCP?
3631[23:16:38] <ascended> i dont have control of the DHCP server
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3637[23:17:51] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: this looks suspicious: replaced-url
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3639[23:18:03] <tom99> that's what SHE said
3640[23:18:13] <fredl> flushed the rues x86iac, no difference
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3643[23:19:08] <fredl> x86iac, replaced-url
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3649[23:20:40] <fredl> jhutchins, doesn't look like anything to do with the router, packets seem to pass unaltered, I exposed the server on the router to let all ip6 traffic through to it
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3652[23:21:09] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: have also some troubles with raid?
3653[23:21:45] <Fat-Zer> ajp-tech: ans have you got /proc/config.gz or a kernel config in /boot/ ? if so could you try to grep it if LVM is enabled?
3654[23:21:45] <fredl> hmm somebody doing a portscan on me?
3655[23:21:58] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: hard to say, I just installed the lvm2 to enable software raid. AFAIK, the board does not have any hardware raid controller.
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3657[23:22:37] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: what to grep for<
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3661[23:23:36] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: I gues you might have asked for this: 'CONFIG_MD_RAID1=m'
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3665[23:24:50] <jhutchins> fredl: I have two Global addresses, and niether one responds to the public ping servers.
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3667[23:25:05] <jhutchins> I wonder if ICMP is disabled by default, or if it's just the router.
3668[23:25:46] <fredl> not sure about ICMP, I checked what x86iac told me to check in sysctl.cong
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3671[23:26:04] <fredl> jhutchins, you getting any portscan results?
3672[23:26:07] <wewlad> hello, pals
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3675[23:26:34] <wewlad> I'm back with my uncommon ssh-connection problem about unreadable cyrillic :(
3676[23:26:56] <fredl> jhutchins, can you try a telnet smtp.3dn.nl smtp?
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3685[23:28:27] <chaddy> wewlad: all fonts available on client?
3686[23:28:50] <wewlad> chaddy: I guess so, how do I check?
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3688[23:29:22] <chaddy> wewlad: perhaps need something like "unifont" from apt
3689[23:29:27] <wewlad> [I mean I can echo some cyrillic symbols]
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3692[23:31:07] <holycow> hmmm
3693[23:31:18] <ajp-tech> Fat-Zer: ok, trying reboot to finish some force action, will be back soon
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3708[23:40:34] <x86iac> fredl: curl -v smtp.3dn.nl looks good from here
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3712[23:41:00] <fredl> x86iac, I just removed the AAAA
3713[23:41:09] <fredl> so you probably tested the ipv4
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3715[23:41:25] <fredl> I can't keep it disfunctional for too long
3716[23:42:04] <fredl> sorry about not saying that before, thought nothing was going on
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3724[23:45:00] <x86iac> is the ipv6 kernel module loaded?
3725[23:45:39] <fredl> ehm... that's what it's called literally?
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3727[23:45:59] <fredl> BTW, now have ICMP6 and SMTP enabled on router to 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
3728[23:46:01] <x86iac> lsmod
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3731[23:46:43] <fredl> replaced-url
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3733[23:46:54] <x86iac> hey that's the ipv6 of my toaster ;)
3734[23:47:13] <tom99> wait appliances have ipv6 now?
3735[23:47:21] <fredl> phones do
3736[23:47:21] <tom99> so you can use your smartphone over wifi to control them?
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3738[23:47:58] <fredl> bottomline is.... ICMP6 goes through my router, arrives at my interface, nothing is done with it
3739[23:48:03] <x86iac> home appliances all internet ready
3740[23:48:06] <fredl> no replies are sent
3741[23:48:10] <miskatonic> no, so the manufacturers may control yopu better and upply remotely obnoxious patches
3742[23:48:13] <fredl> that's odd right?
3743[23:48:18] <x86iac> modprobe ipv6
3744[23:48:38] <fredl> there is no such module?!?!
3745[23:48:51] <fredl> it's built in in kernel isn't it?
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3748[23:49:29] <x86iac> replaced-url
3749[23:49:40] <x86iac> ^^ don't know if that is helpful
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3753[23:50:48] <fredl> I don't think so, have ipv6 enabled, think that's default these days
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3755[23:51:01] <x86iac> /proc/net/if_inet6
3756[23:51:07] <fredl> one thing that could be a problem is that it's going over bridging device
3757[23:51:24] <fredl> yeah that file exists
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3759[23:52:04] <x86iac> that is the ipv6
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3763[23:52:51] <_unreal_> hello, ok I just finished building this replaced-url
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3767[23:54:21] <bhuey> Hi
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3773[23:54:59] <bhuey> What does splitconfig.p do in for the kernel build ? How can I make changes to a cofig so that it can compile with my own options enabled ?
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3775[23:55:23] <fredl> Well, hrmmm.... I need the stupid bridge device but thats only reason I can think of why something as simple as ICMPv6 wouldn't work
3776[23:55:30] <fredl> *ponder*
3777[23:55:42] <x86iac> tom99: i made the mistake of installing my refrig with a bottle of miller beer in it and now since i only drink lowenbrau the damn thing won't stop sending me emails that i am low on miller beer ;)
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3781[23:56:42] <_unreal_> ok that sucks, I was about to transfer the build files but the thumb drive that is 16gigs has 14gigs of data on it. @#$$@# I guess I should transfer that off of there
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