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1[00:00:08] <leba2> Why does Debian minimal installation not include dbus even when Debian uses systemd itself?
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4[00:01:04] <maddawg2> ok well i just installed debian from the netinstall and i'm having issues already
5[00:01:08] <maddawg2> tried to do an apt-get update
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7[00:01:23] <maddawg2> and it cant resolve the url for some reason
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9[00:01:32] <mutante> leba2: dont have a good answer. this seems to be a frequent question lately though.
10[00:02:23] <mutante> maddawg2: can you resolve things manually?
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15[00:03:43] <maddawg2> mutante interestingly if i open firefox i can load websites no issues
16[00:03:54] <maddawg2> but when i try to ping replaced-url
17[00:03:59] <maddawg2> just a blinking cursor
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19[00:04:13] <maddawg2> then says unknown host
20[00:04:27] <maddawg2> so i dont think it's resolving anything but i dont know why i'd be able to load websites
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23[00:04:52] <mutante> maddawg2: maybe because there is a proxy set in the browser?
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25[00:05:08] <mutante> that seems odd though .. for a fresh install that is
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31[00:06:19] <maddawg2> yes it would be
32[00:06:28] <maddawg2> i just turned off "automatic dns"
33[00:06:31] <maddawg2> and now it's working
34[00:06:39] <mutante> maddawg2: ping can fail because a firewall or router filters ICMP, while http still works fine
35[00:06:42] <maddawg2> i dont know why it wouldnt just use the dns entered into the dns field
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38[00:07:27] <mutante> not sure about that automatic dns part
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49[00:10:39] <leba2> Is there a command in Debian for getting which package in online mirror (i.e., not yet installed) provides a certain file?
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71[00:18:39] <sbstn> leba2: you can use search at replaced-url
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78[00:20:04] <sbstn> leba2: or you can user apt-file for that too if you prefer command line
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85[00:22:58] <maddawg2> gah WTF... i can ping replaced-url
86[00:23:07] <maddawg2> but as soon as i do su root and run an apt-get update
87[00:23:09] <maddawg2> it wont resolve
88[00:23:11] <maddawg2> what gives
89[00:23:12] <maddawg2> ????
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91[00:23:58] <maddawg2> if i can resolve from one account i should be able to resolve from all accounts
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93[00:24:47] <epsilon> can you resolv/ping your apt source?
94[00:24:58] <maddawg2> yes
95[00:25:33] <maddawg2> but if i try to wget or ping any url it wont resolve
96[00:26:02] <maddawg2> if i dont do it as root it works fine
97[00:26:10] <maddawg2> which is odd
98[00:26:21] <maddawg2> isn't the dns setting a ssytem wide setting
99[00:26:29] <maddawg2> so all accounts use the same dns
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101[00:27:18] <barbone> hi
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104[00:28:00] <barbone> please I've got a strange behaviour on jessie for wifi on ci20: the board changes its ip address after a while
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112[00:30:48] <maddawg2> epsilon any idea?
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114[00:30:57] <maddawg2> it wont resolve anything as root now
115[00:30:59] <maddawg2> not even apt
116[00:31:05] <maddawg2> WTF
117[00:31:20] <maddawg2> i dont understand why this would happen with one account but not another
118[00:31:25] <maddawg2> it's a FRESH debian install
119[00:31:31] <maddawg2> like literally 10 minutes ago
120[00:31:57] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: which release/suite of debian is it? what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
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122[00:32:52] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: a paste with the error output you're getting would be helpful too, replaced-url
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125[00:33:26] <maddawg2> jmcnaught, i'm not getting any error other than unable to resolve host
126[00:33:30] <maddawg2> nothing to really paste
127[00:33:39] <maddawg2> i set the entwork settings in the gnome gui
128[00:33:51] <markybob> resolv.conf like he asked
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130[00:34:27] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: if you can't/won't make a paste with the error output, could you please just show us the single line with the error verbatim?
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133[00:35:02] <maddawg2> sure.... i guess
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136[00:35:33] <jane_doe> I have a another question...how do I install keepassx on debian 8.5? I do apt-get install keepassx and it says "Unable to locate package keepassx".
137[00:35:40] <jane_doe> But the package is listed here:
138[00:35:40] <jane_doe> replaced-url
139[00:35:46] <leba2> For a samba4 active directory on Debian, which kerberos package should I use (I'd just need the client only), krb5 or heimdal?
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141[00:36:10] <jmcnaught> !show sources.list jane_doe
142[00:36:10] <dpkg> jane_doe: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
143[00:36:12] <markybob> jane_doe: it's keepass2, not x
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145[00:36:36] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: i use keepassx on jessie/8.5 it's definitely there, you probably are missing a line in your sources
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147[00:37:22] <jane_doe> No I don't want keepass2. Ok let me try getting that info.
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155[00:40:42] <jane_doe> I only have 3 lines that aren't commented out:
156[00:40:51] <jane_doe> One is the cdrom
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159[00:41:07] <jane_doe> deb replaced-url
160[00:41:14] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: even if you could just put the /etc/apt/sources.list on replaced-url
161[00:41:48] <jane_doe> deb-scr replaced-url
162[00:41:57] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: or take a look at the example on this page and make yours look like the example: replaced-url
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164[00:41:58] <jane_doe> That's all I have.
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166[00:42:33] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: if that's all you have it is incomplete, make yours look like the example on that page. If it doubt, please put the file on the paste site for peer review :)
167[00:42:38] <maddawg2> jmcnaught, had issues copying and pasting sorry
168[00:42:39] <maddawg2> replaced-url
169[00:42:50] <maddawg2> if i log in as administrator i can resolve stuff fine
170[00:42:56] <maddawg2> but not as root
171[00:43:02] <maddawg2> which makes installing stuff unpossible
172[00:43:05] <jane_doe> When I was installing debian it asked if I wanted to set up a mirror site or something like that. I hit No. Was that maybe the problem?
173[00:43:25] <maddawg2> it didnt ask you to set up a mirror
174[00:43:26] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: yes, but it's okay you can set the mirror up now
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176[00:43:30] <maddawg2> it asked you to select a mirror to download from
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179[00:43:47] <maddawg2> i believe
180[00:43:52] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: you didn't say if this is jessie or something else yet
181[00:44:00] <maddawg2> i have no clue
182[00:44:01] <jane_doe> Right that's what it asked.
183[00:44:02] <maddawg2> 8.5.0
184[00:44:05] <jane_doe> I said no.
185[00:44:17] <maddawg2> is 8.5.0 jessie
186[00:44:17] <maddawg2> ?
187[00:44:37] <jane_doe> Yeah, 8.5
188[00:44:54] <jane_doe> Maybe I should reinstall and hit Yes.
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191[00:45:17] <jane_doe> Instead of trying to do modify the file manually, which I would probably mess up.
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193[00:45:46] <maddawg2> jmcnaught my resolv file has the correct dns server in it
194[00:45:49] <maddawg2> 192.168.1.1
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197[00:46:06] <maddawg2> it says it was set by network-manager
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202[00:46:28] <maddawg2> which is what i used to set my static IP and DNS
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204[00:46:54] <jane_doe> Or actually I found some stuff commented out at the bottom of the sources.list file. I'll comment it back in.
205[00:47:01] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: it'll be easier to edit the file, and you can have us check it. Even if it takes a few tries it'll be easier than reinstalling.
206[00:47:02] <maddawg2> i assume if i set it in the network-manager it's supposed to apply to all accounts right jmcnaught
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208[00:47:39] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: does your resolv.conf change after you use su?
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210[00:47:50] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: also instead of "su root" use "su -l"
211[00:47:53] <jane_doe> True, jmc.
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214[00:48:06] <maddawg2> su -l?
215[00:48:09] <jane_doe> It still says Unable to locate package keepassx.
216[00:48:12] <maddawg2> or su -i
217[00:48:15] <jane_doe> I'll paste my file into that pastebin thing
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219[00:48:37] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: "su -l" or "su -". You would use "-i" with sudo
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221[00:48:46] <maddawg2> ah right
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223[00:48:56] <maddawg2> i was trying to instal lsudo but cant
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225[00:49:07] <gnikc2> So, I've got a server with no screen, 1 keyboard, and a dead bios battery meaning it no longer boots to the proper disk (i.e.: not the one with OSes). I want to make or use some livecd system with ssh in order to run a final backup script on it (chrooted) so I can reinstall stuff. Any distro recs or pointers as to how I can build such a custom cd? I tried reading the instructions for debian, then onto build
226[00:49:08] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: after editing your sources.list file you need to run "apt-get update"
227[00:49:13] <gnikc2> -simple-cdd, but there's little to no information on how to customize the settings of programs with debconf. Because I need sshd to accept password authentication, which the default livecd's doesn't.
228[00:49:23] <maddawg2> to answer your question the resolv does not change after i use su
229[00:49:27] <maddawg2> the file is the same on both
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232[00:50:04] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: 192.168.1.1? and is that your router? can you ping that?
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235[00:50:44] <leba2> For a samba4 active directory on Debian, which kerberos package should I use (I'd just need the client only), krb5 or heimdal?
236[00:50:46] <maddawg2> yes i am using it right now
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238[00:50:53] <maddawg2> and it responds fine under both accounts
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241[00:51:25] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: dig is useful for debugging DNS issues if it's installed, you can use "dig @192.168.1.1 google.com" for example, the "@" part tells dig which nameserver to ask
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243[00:52:26] <jmcnaught> gnikc2: does it need to be custom? Do you have a serial console? You should be able to configure the serial console with boot options on a livecd
244[00:52:26] <maddawg2> its not installed
245[00:52:35] <maddawg2> and cant install it cuz root cant resolv dns
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247[00:52:47] <maddawg2> but interestingly i can now ping replaced-url
248[00:52:56] <maddawg2> but it wont resolv anything else
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251[00:53:13] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: I only have ethernet ports avaible, thus why I planned to use ssh (though telnet would work fine I suppose).
252[00:53:56] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: try putting your ISP's nameserver's IP address into resolv.conf (or google's) as a temporary measure
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255[00:54:25] <jmcnaught> gnikc2: if you have physical access and there is a VGA port, bringing a monitor might simplify things quite a bit
256[00:54:31] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: I thought of custom cds mostly because most distros I know don't have usable sshd on their livecds.
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262[00:55:04] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: I do have that option, though I wished to avoid having to requisition/purchase more equipment.
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265[00:55:38] <jmcnaught> gnikc2: it's not possible to use a monitor that you already have for a few minutes?
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268[00:55:53] <maddawg2> jmcnaught, i rebooted and now it's resolving
269[00:56:01] <maddawg2> so not sure what's up with that
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274[00:56:34] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: I'd need to take one from a currently-in-use computer, which is why I'm looking at alternative solutions.
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276[00:56:54] <jmcnaught> gnikc2: alternatively you could try installing Debian to a USB stick (a regular install, not a live one), then configure the sshd and put a key in root's authorized_keys, then boot the computer from the USB stick
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283[00:57:50] <jmcnaught> maddawg2: yeah i don't know what the issue was either.
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286[00:58:12] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: hey there, let us know if you're running into trouble :)
287[00:58:27] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: The only problem I see is that I don't know the default boot order of the bios, but if usb is default, then that should work.
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289[00:58:59] <jane_doe> jmc, thanks for being so helpful. I am going to try reinstalling afterall.
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292[00:59:22] <jmcnaught> gnikc2: won't you have the same problem with a livecd? honestly i think borrowing a monitor for a few minutes will be the simplest
293[00:59:42] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: Perhaps. And I think it defaults to cd though.
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296[01:00:17] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: okay if you want to that's cool, but we can also help you configure the network mirrors. once you get it sorted out you'll realize it's not that bad :)
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299[01:00:48] <jane_doe> Yeah, when I get to the network mirror part I'll ask you guys what to do. :)
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316[01:04:47] <gnikc2> jmcnaught: Well, I'll try to sort things out. Thanks for your suggestions.
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318[01:04:58] <jane_doe> By the way, what am I supposed to put from domain name when installing debian?
319[01:05:06] <jane_doe> *for
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322[01:05:27] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: it doesn't really matter for a desktop system, the default is fine
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324[01:06:10] <jmcnaught> jane_doe: you do need a hostname though, and it should not be 'localhost'
325[01:06:31] <karimb> jane_doe you can use marvel character names
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327[01:07:15] <karimb> jane_doe people are really into this astronomy thing too. Or volcanoes
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332[01:08:42] <jane_doe> Haha.
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344[01:16:39] <awal1> any tuility similar to nmon but with sensors support?
345[01:16:47] <awal1> utility ^
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353[01:20:17] <awal1> i usually use watch+sensors but wondering if tehere is a better way ...
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362[01:23:57] <leba2> For a samba4 active directory on Debian, which kerberos package should I use (I'd just need the client only), krb5 or heimdal?
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364[01:24:29] <jane_doe> Ok, mirror time! Should I just pick the first? (ftp.us.debian.org)...I am in the US.
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371[01:26:47] <mayhew> jane_doe: go with mirrors.kernel.org - it's rock solid :) ftp.us.debian.org actually defers to that a few mirrors, including the kernel.org one
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374[01:27:16] <jane_doe> Ok thanks.
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382[01:29:18] <otirc> Hey guys, just playing with building from source, and wondered if dpkg or apt-src should be used to build application?
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388[01:32:02] <mayhew> otirc: replaced-url
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390[01:33:01] <otirc> mayhew: cheers, that's what I'm working through
391[01:33:49] <otirc> doesn't seem to explain the difference between using apt-src and using dpkg
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395[01:35:05] <mayhew> otirc: well dpkg doesn't build anything, it just installs a .deb
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401[01:37:04] <mayhew> I stand corrected, apparently dpkg does build stuff! Sorry
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407[01:37:51] <otirc> mayhew: I think apt-src brings both apt-get and dpkg together
408[01:38:06] <otirc> just wondered if anyone on here could clarify
409[01:38:34] <otirc> mayhew: thanks anyway
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435[01:56:15] <sm00th> does debian unstable have a later kde version?
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437[01:56:38] <TomTomTo1> 5.6 it was.
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439[01:56:47] <TomTomTo1> ,v plasma-desktop
440[01:56:48] <judd> Package: plasma-desktop on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie: 4:4.11.13-2; stretch: 4:5.6.5-1; sid: 4:5.6.5-1
441[01:57:16] <sm00th> ah ok so not plasma 5 yet
442[01:57:44] <TomTomTo1> it is plasma 5.
443[01:57:50] <sm00th> i'm curious to try it though cause i have dilemma. when playing cs:go, the 340 driver works better then newer drviers. on newer driers i get alot of stuttering
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445[01:58:02] <sm00th> but when i alt tab in jessie it crash the game unless using newer driver.
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447[01:58:41] <sm00th> but it seems I'm on manjaro right now and I can use 340 driver and tab to desktop without crashing game so it seems newer kde help with that.
448[01:59:12] <sm00th> is there unstable iso or do I just add repo for it
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451[02:00:05] <TomTomTo1> stability is not something you will get out of this. i've tried it a few day ago. it likes to crash.
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453[02:00:24] <sm00th> TomTomTosch: you talking to me?
454[02:00:52] <TomTomTosch> yes. plasma 5.6 didn't seem very stable to me.
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456[02:01:21] <sm00th> oh, ya i have problem right now on manjaro with random screen flickers sometimes using prop drivers. especialy with fullscreen video in vlc
457[02:01:25] <debzd> when i used kde some 10 yrs ago i was the big bundle of c++-amped bugware it was and i bet it still is
458[02:01:34] <sm00th> debzd: haha
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461[02:01:42] <sm00th> debzd: now its qt5 bugware
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463[02:02:04] <sm00th> missing so many optionst hat used to be in kde
464[02:02:37] <sm00th> kde now knows what you want and whats good for you better then you do yourself it seems lol
465[02:03:29] <debzd> sm00th: maybe a necessary step in the evolution of any piece of technology b4 reaching a certain lvl of maturity
466[02:03:36] <TomTomTosch> sm00th: btw, sid: 4:5.6.5-1 means version 5.6 the 4: in front is the debian specific epoch.
467[02:03:48] <sm00th> debzd: ya linux is turning into windows now.
468[02:03:55] <sm00th> TomTomTosch: ah ok tks
469[02:04:17] <sm00th> TomTomTosch: I'm curious to give it a try cause I'd rather use debian then manjaro. since i have some software made for debian, and debian support apparmor and such.
470[02:04:23] <Velveeta_Chef> An good guides for transitioning from Ubuntu to Debian?
471[02:04:29] <sm00th> and I can encrypt my partitions lol
472[02:05:25] <debzd> Velveeta_Chef: i doubt there are any since the 2 share a substantial common, like that of human and chimp dna
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474[02:06:42] <sm00th> Velveeta_Chef: its basiaclly same thing. You just can't use ppa's.
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476[02:07:58] <TomTomTosch> Velveeta_Chef: the debian faq is a good place to start. replaced-url
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478[02:08:46] <Velveeta_Chef> thanks
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504[02:21:30] <jane_doe> It appears that I am now downloading updates from the mirror sites...
505[02:21:45] <jane_doe> Once that finishes I'll try installing keepassx again.
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512[02:24:31] <Neville> I am trying to calibrate monitors and would like to install a color profile under xfce desktop & Dedian. I can't find any tutorials under Debian; everything is Ubuntu and Gnome Color Manager related.
513[02:24:41] <Neville> displayCal returns this message under Debian 8.4: colord: The profile has been imported. You may need to manually assign and activate under "Color" system setting.
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529[02:34:26] <Psi-Jack> I still have this annoying issue. I installed Debian 8.5.0 netinstall minimal to a new system. I setup the network with bridge-utils for intended use of virtualization. Then I install the Proxmox VE repository and install Proxmox. The "networking.service" stops running at boot there-after and I have to run it manually at every boot up, before the network comes up.
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531[02:34:59] <markybob> !proxmox
532[02:34:59] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
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534[02:35:39] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, but this is more-so a Debian-specific level issue.
535[02:35:55] <markybob> no. frankendebian like that isn't supported
536[02:36:06] <markybob> !tell Psi-Jack about frankendebian
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544[02:38:54] <Psi-Jack> Okay, In Debian, how do I show which packages were installed from which repos?
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554[02:46:05] <jmcnaught> Psi-Jack: dpkg has a factoid "which repo" that has a couple way of doing that
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559[02:49:38] <jane_doe> mayhew, I finally got keepassx installed. Thanks!
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567[02:52:26] <maddawg2> wtf...
568[02:52:32] <maddawg2> i think my mirror is broken
569[02:52:44] <maddawg2> anyone use csail.mit.edu?
570[02:53:03] <maddawg2> or better yet how can i change my mirror to one that doesnt suck
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573[02:54:43] <jane_doe> Actually I think I just learned this.
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576[02:55:20] <jane_doe> Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
577[02:55:34] <jmcnaught> !httpredir
578[02:55:34] <dpkg> To have <APT> automatically select a mirror close to you, use the Geo-IP redirector in your sources.list "deb replaced-url
579[02:56:23] <jmcnaught> some people have issues with httpredir (usually temporary) but for most it works really well
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582[03:00:22] <maddawg2> i mean i woould have thought mit would be closest to me... i'm literally 1 block away from their main building
583[03:00:24] <maddawg2> lol
584[03:00:42] <maddawg2> oh and interestingly it points back to that
585[03:00:49] <maddawg2> lame
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587[03:00:56] <maddawg2> it's the one that ain't working
588[03:01:39] <jane_doe> I put mirrors.kernel.org in mine.
589[03:01:52] <TomTomTosch> it points back to that after you did the apt-get update?
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593[03:02:57] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, well, dangit.. I see nothing that pve would install that would interrupt networking.service itself from starting. Grr. sigh.
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595[03:03:15] <maddawg2> yes TomTom
596[03:03:29] <maddawg2> it keeps trying to do an update and that's what it'slooking for and fails to resolv it
597[03:03:46] <maddawg2> i thought it was my dns cuz i was having issues resolving a bit ago
598[03:03:55] <maddawg2> but everything else resolves for me
599[03:03:58] <maddawg2> like google.com
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601[03:04:08] <maddawg2> my personal website
602[03:04:19] <maddawg2> and i can g et to yahoo.com in a browser
603[03:04:23] <maddawg2> and ping yahoo
604[03:04:27] <maddawg2> so i think my dns is fine
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606[03:05:14] <jane_doe> Question: How do I launch gnupg2 on debian 8?
607[03:05:14] <TomTomTosch> then pick a different mirror... replaced-url
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609[03:05:31] <mutante> jane_doe: type gpg2
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611[03:05:43] <awal1> how to make find search in ?exit
612[03:05:53] <awal1> how to make find search in /
613[03:06:10] <mutante> awal1: find /
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615[03:06:32] <TrivialGravitas> How is installing via wireless these days?
616[03:06:57] <jane_doe> mutante, when I do that it says "Go ahead and type your message"
617[03:07:02] <awal1> mutante, fine, thanks :P
618[03:07:05] <jane_doe> I am trying to launch the GUI.
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620[03:07:30] <jane_doe> On ubuntu I did apt-get install gnupg2 and it put a short to it on my desktop.
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622[03:07:47] <jane_doe> But I can't figure how to use the GUI with debian.
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624[03:07:55] <mutante> jane_doe: yup, so it runs. i am not sure if there is a GUI, i never used one. just a few commands on the terminal
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626[03:08:12] <mutante> jane_doe: do you mean a plugin for Thunderbird or so?
627[03:08:17] <awal1> mutante, I think with find / . | grep something, find searchs for /
628[03:09:07] <mutante> jane_doe: oh, i see. maybe it's seahorse
629[03:09:10] <awal1> i mean find stuff in root dirs
630[03:09:22] <mutante> jane_doe: type "seahorse"
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634[03:10:26] <mutante> awal1: what do you want to do?
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637[03:11:36] <awal1> mutante, trying to find stuff of xfce but find . | grep xfce only checks in /home
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639[03:12:07] <awal1> wanted to scan the whole system, usr, etc and so
640[03:12:28] <jane_doe> mutante, I typed seahorse, but that is not the program I am familiar with. The one I was using on ubuntu had more features like you could encrypt and sign files from the GUI.
641[03:12:45] <mutante> awal1: do you mean grep inside the files or in the file names
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643[03:13:22] <TomTomTosch> awal1: find / -name 'somename.txt' for example
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646[03:15:06] <mutante> jane_doe: try this: " apt-cache search gnu privacy guard " you will see a couple packages that are related
647[03:15:18] <awal1> mutante, TomTomTosch, I'm just lost with find all the time. if I run find . | grep xfce or find -name xfce, find only shows results found in /home. but if I run find . | grep qemu or find -name qemu also it show configs and dirs in /usr/share, /etc and so
648[03:15:33] <mutante> jane_doe: does that sound familiar at all?
649[03:15:47] <awal1> but if i browse manually usr share, etc , var ofcourse I find xfce stuff
650[03:15:58] <jane_doe> Hmm I'll try that thanks.
651[03:16:37] <markybob> awal1: . in that case means "current dir" that's why TomTomTosch told you to use / instead of .
652[03:17:18] <jane_doe> Oh yeah that showed a lot...I'll just have to figure out which is the one I'm used to.
653[03:17:21] <mutante> jane_doe: did you have Gnome on Ubuntu or was it maybe Kubuntu with KDE?
654[03:17:47] <jane_doe> I had mate
655[03:17:54] <mutante> in that case, there is that kpgp GUI, but you'd probably have to also install a bunch of KDE libs
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658[03:18:02] <mutante> eh, kgpg
659[03:18:25] <mutante> do you want this for email?
660[03:18:43] <jane_doe> Hmm this one on ubuntu according to the about screen is GPA 0.9.7
661[03:18:45] <mutante> you might like "enigmail" plugin for Thunderbird/Icedove
662[03:18:56] <mutante> it handles it quite nice and is inside the mail gui then
663[03:19:09] <jane_doe> And it also says GnuPG 2.0.23
664[03:19:30] <mutante> ah, ok, apt-get install gpa
665[03:19:32] <mutante> try it
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668[03:20:09] <jane_doe> Ok, trying that.
669[03:20:20] <mutante> then just type "gpa". yep, just did here. that shoudl be it
670[03:20:39] <mutante> i see all my existing keys i had imported without gui
671[03:21:01] <awal1> markybob, yeah I understood that but in that case find not only lists xfce4 stuff also it lists openbox stuff, firefox and linux stuff for example
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673[03:21:21] <mutante> awal1: how do you define what is xfce stuff?
674[03:21:57] <awal1> amost looking for configs
675[03:21:59] <jane_doe> Yeah, that worked. It installed.
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678[03:23:08] <jane_doe> Tried to launch it. It's definitely the right program, but I get an error:
679[03:23:17] <jane_doe> Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
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684[03:24:16] <mutante> jane_doe: somehow i already got that package with gnome. you can try installing it. apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module:i386
685[03:24:25] <mutante> jane_doe: it seems this is just for it to be able to play sounds
686[03:24:40] <mutante> well, the i386 part might be different
687[03:25:17] <mutante> but searching for "libcanberra-gtk-module" like before and you should find it
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694[03:28:40] <jane_doe> Yeah, that fixed that error message. Now I'm getting another error but I'll search for it.
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697[03:32:01] <TomTomTosch> someone initiated their timestamp with 0...
698[03:32:10] <jane_doe> Yes!!!! It's all working now!
699[03:32:14] <jane_doe> Thanks mutante!
700[03:32:20] <awal1> mutante, replaced-url
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702[03:34:14] <mutante> jane_doe: :) welcome
703[03:34:21] <thorie> hi, im upgrading squeeze to wheezy and i got an error on dist-upgrade ... Errors were encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libav-tools_6%3a0.8.17-2+deb7u2_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Any idea how to fix this?
704[03:35:06] <mutante> awal1: yea, so that is just checking in file names
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709[03:37:02] <awal1> mutante, my basic idea is find all dirs&files containing xfce4 naming
710[03:37:09] <trysten> how do i get blkid on jessie
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713[03:37:58] <mutante> awal1: well, you seem to have solved it. you need to run as root and find / | grep is the way
714[03:38:08] <awal1> trysten, blkid is already in your system
715[03:38:15] <awal1> needs root access
716[03:38:20] <trysten> thanks -.-
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720[03:39:28] <jmcnaught> trysten: blkid doesn't need root access, but it's in /sbin which is not part of a normal user's path. "/sbin/blkid" should work
721[03:39:45] <trysten> sure enough
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723[03:40:10] <trysten> run as a normal user, it takes to time at all. run as root it seems to requery every block
724[03:40:15] <trysten> (device)
725[03:40:17] <awal1> mutante, just partially, I run xfce DE and find should list more . but anyway, I give up whith find in this case; I go with mlocate :P
726[03:41:14] <mutante> awal1: just dont forget to update the db
727[03:41:17] <awal1> jmcnaught, good to know :) I always executed it as root
728[03:41:23] <mutante> awal1: it will be faster to search though
729[03:41:41] <awal1> mutante, sees yeah :P
730[03:41:45] <awal1> seems ^
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732[03:42:00] <jmcnaught> awal1: you're trying to find where xfce4's files are? have you run "dpkg -S xfce4" to see files from packages?
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734[03:43:16] <awal1> jmcnaught, good, dpkg does a better job. thanks
735[03:43:26] <awal1> I dont thought in it
736[03:44:23] <awal1> so giving up with both & mlocate. viva dpkg :P :D
737[03:44:25] <jmcnaught> awal1: "dpkg --status packagename" will (among other things) list conffiles for a package
738[03:44:48] <awal1> jmcnaught, ok. thanks
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740[03:45:00] <jmcnaught> awal1: you know about conffiles?
741[03:45:13] <awal1> what you mean exactly?
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744[03:46:14] <jmcnaught> awal1: with Debian packages conffiles are files that are provided by a package that you can edit. dpkg will detect changes and prompt you about them during upgrades, asking if you want the new version of the file from the package, or to keep your locally modified one
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748[03:47:16] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
749[03:47:50] <awal1> jmcnaught, oh, ok. I got you know. I have a vague idea about that
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751[03:48:02] <awal1> was checking that exact link :P
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756[03:51:18] <awal1> jmcnaught, I'm trying to understand better xfce and fvwm
757[03:52:04] <awal1> so wanted to check closely/know/understand how pkg are executed at first time before user config
758[03:52:35] <jmcnaught> awal1: i'm not sure what you mean
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762[03:53:22] <awal1> when I run fvwm and xfce from where those WM's set the default configuration
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767[03:55:34] <awal1> I meant which config file is used for the first run/execution of xfce or fvwm , for example
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769[03:55:51] <awal1> or any oher pkg
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777[03:58:57] <jmcnaught> awal1: i'm not sure about those two examples. some programs have defaults or system-wide stuff in /etc. Some probably copy example files from /usr/share (ones like this might look in /usr/local/share or ~/.local/share first)
778[04:00:08] <jmcnaught> awal1: you can also put files in /etc/skel that will be put in user's $HOME when their account is created
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782[04:01:58] <somiaj> awal1: read the man page for the program in question, it should explain its initilization practices (if it reads a config), which config files it reads and in what order/priority
783[04:02:09] <awal1> jmcnaught, yes, I checked /etc and the examples in /usr/locate/share... but no trace of the first defaults
784[04:02:13] <somiaj> I know fvwm explains all this in the man page under the Initilization section.
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789[04:03:29] <somiaj> hmm the man page for fvwm is slightly off, it says /usr/local/share/fvwm/config (or .fvwm2rc) on debian that will just be /usr/share
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797[04:07:14] <awal1> somiaj, I already looked there but I only found modules configs, not the WM per se
798[04:07:24] <awal1> same for xfce4 :)
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809[04:14:06] <TomTomTosch> xfce stores the settings in xml somewhere. i don't think they are meant to be changed by hand.
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811[04:14:29] <TomTomTosch> or what config are you talking about?
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814[04:17:33] <awal1> TomTomTosch, nvm right right now. dinner time, but thanks :P
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883[05:07:35] <Akuw> i am logged in web hosting server, but i can't see distro name using cat /etc/*-release
884[05:07:49] <Akuw> or using cat /etc/issue
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886[05:09:06] <somiaj> Akuw: you can try lsb_release -r
887[05:09:21] <somiaj> or -a
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890[05:10:17] <jmcnaught> Akuw: or look at what's in sources.list
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894[05:13:19] <Akuw> i guess they blocked all
895[05:13:34] <Akuw> because can't do lsb_release neither
896[05:13:51] <Akuw> and i can't find sources.list
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899[05:14:14] <Akuw> many commands are disabled
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901[05:15:42] <tharkun> Akuw: uname -a
902[05:16:14] <Akuw> nothing
903[05:16:21] <Akuw> i test that first
904[05:16:32] <tharkun> What is the output of that particular command?
905[05:16:34] <dvs> they disabled uname?
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907[05:16:49] <Akuw> sorry, uname -a ---> Linux cloud.8ssi.com 2.6.32-673.8.1.lve1.4.3.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 5 16:06:47 EDT 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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912[05:17:15] <tharkun> So it is a custom kernel.
913[05:17:23] <tharkun> which aptitude
914[05:17:35] <jmcnaught> Akuw: is it a VPS or a shell account on a shared hosting server?
915[05:17:49] * tharkun votes for the latter
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918[05:18:30] <jmcnaught> yeah i think so too. it also looks like centos or rhel 6
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920[05:18:59] <tharkun> I vote for Centos
921[05:19:29] <jmcnaught> tharkun: careful how you say that around here, people might get the wrong idea ;)
922[05:19:38] <tharkun> Akuw: ls -Z should give you a particular flag at the beginning of the listing. Which one is it
923[05:19:39] <dvs> !lart tharkun
924[05:19:40] * dpkg squeezes tharkun till tharkun turns blue like papa smurf
925[05:20:01] <tharkun> jmcnaught: lol
926[05:20:17] <tharkun> !slap dvs
927[05:20:17] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across dvs's face
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929[05:21:42] <tharkun> jmcnaught: rhel and therefore centos have selinux enabled by default, that should give us a pretty decent picture of what is beeing runned there.
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932[05:22:31] <jmcnaught> tharkun: that's a very good point. if it's not a centos system it's at least running inside a container on a centos system (or rhel depending on the price)
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946[05:36:27] <hanasaki> does debian support compressed kernel modules?
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952[05:41:10] <thorie> my dist-upgrade to wheezy keeps failing due to libav-tools ... what should i do?
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954[05:41:43] <up2late> rm -rf /*
955[05:41:56] <thorie> ok let me try that
956[05:41:57] <up2late> trollolol
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958[05:42:04] <up2late> no dont do that
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962[05:46:12] <jmcnaught> up2late: not cool. Please never suggest destructive commands like that here. It's not funny.
963[05:46:59] <jmcnaught> thorie: i hope you didn't follow up2late's suggestion. are you following the instructions in the wheezy release notes? can you show the error you get?
964[05:47:06] <Slumlord_> yeah that'll delete everything
965[05:47:09] <Slumlord_> don't do that
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967[05:47:35] <lelo> well, not everything.. it will stop at /bin, deleting everything alphabetically before it
968[05:47:54] <lelo> either way, we should never joke about destructive commands...
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971[05:48:40] <jmcnaught> yeah it's a really crappy thing to joke about, and is something you can be banned from the channel for
972[05:49:06] <awal1> up2late, sorry but you're stupid
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975[05:50:29] <ryouma> thorie: you there?
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977[05:50:52] <up2late> CTCP PING reply from thorie : 1.094 seconds
978[05:50:54] <up2late> yes thes tehre
979[05:51:58] <thorie> yeah
980[05:52:05] <jmcnaught> up2late: i'd say that i hope you're prepared to help repair the damage but i don't think you are trustworthy enough to actually help. You should probably leave.
981[05:52:12] <thorie> jmcnaught: i followed those instructions
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983[05:52:25] <jmcnaught> thorie: which instructions?
984[05:52:26] <up2late> heard.
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986[05:52:38] <thorie> jmcnaught: and i think i fixed it, because the error went away when i did apt-get install -f libav-tools
987[05:52:48] <up2late> see it helped lol
988[05:52:50] <thorie> jmcnaught: the wheezy release notes
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990[05:52:55] <thorie> not up2late lol
991[05:53:02] <up2late> im gonna go stick my head in a fire noe
992[05:53:03] <ryouma> :)
993[05:53:05] <up2late> *now
994[05:53:11] <thorie> jmcnaught: how do i know when dist-upgrade is done?
995[05:53:16] <ryouma> thorie: ^
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997[05:54:04] <jmcnaught> thorie: good :) you'll know that it's done when you're returned to a shell prompt. If you're following the instructions in the release notes you should be fine. If you get errors don't reboot, show the errors here
998[05:54:54] <thorie> jmcnaught: should i reboot now? apt-get dist-upgrade says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. -- and back to prompt
999[05:55:12] <thorie> jmcnaught: i want to install jessie now, since i'm done upgrading to wheezy
1000[05:55:31] <jmcnaught> thorie: what is the package not upgraded? what does dist-upgrade say?
1001[05:56:04] <jmcnaught> i mean, can you use replaced-url
1002[05:56:17] <thorie> replaced-url
1003[05:56:58] <jmcnaught> thorie: can you do another paste for "apt-cache policy" ?
1004[05:57:20] <Strife89> Evening folks. I just completed an upgrade from Jessie to testing on a new installation, and I'm now trying to install Steam. But by the looks of things, package "steam" currently doesn't exist in testing. What's going on?
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1006[05:57:45] <thorie> replaced-url
1007[05:57:45] <jmcnaught> ,v steam
1008[05:57:46] <judd> No package named 'steam' was found in amd64.
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1010[05:58:28] <jmcnaught> ,v steam --arch i386
1011[05:58:29] <judd> Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.52-2
1012[05:58:35] <kcirick> steam on non-free replaced-url
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1014[05:58:51] <thorie> jmcnaught: does that look good?
1015[05:59:01] <kcirick> judd beat me to it
1016[05:59:06] <jmcnaught> Strife89: you can check the package on replaced-url
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1019[06:00:00] <borei> hi all
1020[06:00:34] <Strife89> jmcnaught: I guess it's failing to build for some reason.
1021[06:00:37] <jmcnaught> thorie: yeah that looks okay. Take a look at replaced-url
1022[06:00:38] <borei> i just started to look towards debian as an alternative to centos.
1023[06:01:01] <Strife89> I'll lurk and just install it when/if it is returned to testing. Thanks!
1024[06:01:05] <borei> the reason is - centos dropped support for xen.
1025[06:01:32] <thorie> jmcnaught: cool thanks!
1026[06:01:50] <borei> i spent week trying to bring online centos 7 + ceph + xen - no luck
1027[06:02:06] <borei> i did it in 2 hours for ubuntu
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1029[06:02:27] <awal1> sometimes when I execute "exit" with mrxvt I get a message "Process exited normally with status 130. Press any key to close tab." That means?
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1031[06:02:49] <awal1> it only happens with mrxvt
1032[06:02:55] <borei> wanted to ask - does debian support xen in the same way like ubuntu does (or maybe ubuntu support in the same way like debian)
1033[06:03:19] <borei> or there is also tendency to drop xen and switch to kvm ?
1034[06:03:47] <jmcnaught> borei: Debian supports xen and kvm
1035[06:04:00] <lelo> borei: I might be wrong here, but afaik xen and kvm support on debian are the same
1036[06:04:21] <lelo> borei: it's just that xen you will have to boot into a different kernel and you get to keep the same kernel on kvm
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1038[06:04:35] <lelo> borei: that means you get to update your kernel more often on kvm than on xen
1039[06:04:39] <borei> that is fine
1040[06:04:59] <lelo> not so fine if you intend to use btrfs/zfs
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1042[06:05:03] <lelo> =p
1043[06:05:11] <borei> xen is level 1, kvm is level 2. i'd like to keep level 1
1044[06:05:44] <borei> my fs(es) will be ext4 and xfs
1045[06:06:36] <jmcnaught> Strife89: you could try installing it from unstable. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net would be a good place to ask about running a mix of testing and unstable
1046[06:06:37] <borei> as i mentioned above ceph is gonna be my main backend. filesystem for OS itself - i don't see that is very critical.
1047[06:06:47] <jmcnaught> ,v ceph
1048[06:06:48] <judd> Package: ceph on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.80.7-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.80.7-2+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 0.80.10-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.80.11-1; sid: 0.80.11-1; experimental: 0.94.5-1+b1
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1050[06:07:09] <borei> jmcnaught: ?
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1052[06:07:33] <lelo> borei: both kvm and xen have similar performances, level 1/2 does not matter that much on "modern" hardware anymore... replaced-url
1053[06:07:40] <borei> judd: you can install it from ceph repo
1054[06:07:49] <jmcnaught> borei: jessie is the current stable release, so the versions in jessie and jessie-backports are your options for ceph
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1056[06:07:53] <jmcnaught> (judd is a bot)
1057[06:08:10] <borei> :-)
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1059[06:09:07] <jmcnaught> borei: on Debian there are lots of reasons to avoid third party repos as much as possible. Sometimes it's necessary, but any third-party repo can introduce problems during upgrades
1060[06:09:40] <borei> true, and it's valid for any distro
1061[06:09:53] <lelo> jmcnaught: I guess this is aplicable for most distros, even arch :-)
1062[06:09:58] <lelo> yeah
1063[06:10:04] <jmcnaught> fortunately Debian comes with quite a lot of packages
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1066[06:10:29] <Strife89> jmcnaught: Thanks, but I may just wait it out. I can play my games on my Mint partition in the meantime, should I want to.
1067[06:10:30] <lelo> yes, soon to be way easier to get packages on snapd :-)
1068[06:10:42] <borei> current version of ceph is 10.2, stock one is 0.8, there are 2-3 years between them
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1070[06:12:04] <borei> that factor also bothered me with centos - what is the pros to have 10 support for kernel 2.6 when 4.6 already released.
1071[06:12:09] <jmcnaught> borei: Debian releases freeze. The current stable release froze in late 2014. Once a release is frozen package versions don't get updated, only bug and security fixes
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1073[06:12:59] <jmcnaught> (with some exceptions like web browsers, or if a security fix cannot be backported like happened recently with samba
1074[06:13:03] <borei> hmm, i though 8.x was released in 2015
1075[06:13:26] <somiaj> (some security updates do require a version update, outside of the webbrowsers this is really rare (samba had a version bump))
1076[06:13:52] <omgoatse> 8.5 aactually just came out last month
1077[06:13:52] <somiaj> borei: it freezes about 6 months before it is released (that it is the time it takes to fix all the bugs, though I think jessie was agressive enough to be done in about 4 months)
1078[06:13:54] <omgoatse> -a
1079[06:14:17] <borei> icic
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1081[06:14:57] <somiaj> borei: well fix what is called release critical bugs, debian is not bug free, but most release critical bugs are fixed or packages are removed (there are of course exceptions when dealing with 20,0000+ packages)
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1085[06:18:40] <klys> is the following command supposed to give me a login prompt: # getty 38400 /dev/tty9 &
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1087[06:21:34] <jmcnaught> klys: use systemctl start getty@tty9.service
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1090[06:24:07] <jmcnaught> klys: replaced-url
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1125[06:56:31] <klys> jmcnaught, running in chroot, ignoring request.
1126[06:57:42] <jmcnaught> klys: what are you trying to do? run a chroot on a tty?
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1167[07:27:46] <kion> according to this page replaced-url
1168[07:28:34] <jmcnaught> kion: that is the page for the testing version of the package
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1170[07:28:39] <jmcnaught> ,v chessx
1171[07:28:40] <judd> Package: chessx on amd64 -- jessie: 1.2.2-1; sid: 1.4.0-1; stretch: 1.4.0-1
1172[07:28:55] <jmcnaught> kion: not everything from testing is in jessie-backports
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1174[07:29:27] <jmcnaught> you could try to backport it yourself if it's really important
1175[07:29:33] <kion> jmcnaught, Ohh I thought backports = testing !!! can you explain me
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1177[07:30:02] <jmcnaught> kion: there's a description of backports here: replaced-url
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1180[07:30:15] <jmcnaught> ,checkbackport chessx
1181[07:30:16] <judd> Backporting package chessx in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
1182[07:30:20] <kion> jmcnaught, I would love to port it, where do I start?
1183[07:30:28] <jmcnaught> !ssb
1184[07:30:28] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
1185[07:30:56] <jmcnaught> kion: see the message from dpkg, or replaced-url
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1187[07:31:18] <jmcnaught> make sure that you only add a deb-src line for unstable, not a deb line.
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1192[07:33:18] <jmcnaught> kion: keep in mind that when you manually backport a package like this, you will need to repeat the steps each time there's a new version, and not everything can be backported
1193[07:33:19] <kion> jmcnaught, thanks
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1195[07:34:24] <kion> jmcnaught, this might sound stupid but: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid. How and where do I add this?
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1198[07:35:41] <jmcnaught> kion: in /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, but if this is difficult for you then you should consider reading up on Debian package management fundamentals first in either the debian-handbook or debian-reference
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1200[07:36:27] <kion> jmcnaught, that is what I thought but I guess I will study the references first, thanks
1201[07:37:16] <jmcnaught> kion: both debian-handbook and debian-reference are available as packages or at replaced-url
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1203[07:37:41] <kion> jmcnaught, thank you so much
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1293[08:29:26] <Rovanion> How come the GNU Global package is so old?
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1411[09:21:16] <micw> hi
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1415[09:21:38] <micw> I fail to install java on a fresh jessie: tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2016d-0+deb8u1) but 2016e-0+deb8u1 is to be installed
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1423[09:24:22] <micw> i dont have the jessie-updates repository in my apt conf
1424[09:24:55] <micw> tzdata and tzdata-java 2016e are both from jessie-updates
1425[09:25:02] <micw> for some reason i gont one but not the other
1426[09:25:49] <micw> ah, I have a glue. the machine was a pre-installed image. probably that one had jessie-updates enabled before I applied my provisionin scripts ^^
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1447[09:35:03] <Patte> hi
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1449[09:35:11] <Patte> are PID's unique across reboots?
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1451[09:35:50] <Stummi> no, PIDs are not even unique during one uptime
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1466[09:40:36] <alakx> Hi, are changes made with fdisk restored in /boot ?
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1475[09:46:14] <vlt> alakx: Can you give an example of such a change and what could happen in /boot then?
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1564[10:32:06] <BW^-> on Debian, can I use "pkgconf --libs" to get "-l" arguments for linking in all Boost libraries??
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1588[10:43:43] <jelly> BW^-: boost dev packages do not seem to use pkg-config at all, but you can install libboost-all-dev and try it for yourself
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1592[10:45:13] <BW^-> aha
1593[10:45:16] <BW^-> hm
1594[10:45:25] <Iridos> any idea where the backgroud logo for jessie is?
1595[10:45:32] <BW^-> jelly: do you have any idea of how I can link in Boost "safely" on my g++ command line?
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1603[10:49:04] <jelly> BW^-: not really, what do you mean by safely?
1604[10:49:10] <Iridos> ha. /usr/share/images/desktop-base/
1605[10:50:42] <Iridos> good enough
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1610[10:54:54] <Iridos> it seems there is a problem running a composite manager when one has loaded an image with xloadimage... xcompmgr keeps echoing errors, and compton freezes
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1612[10:55:08] <Iridos> also seems the debian background is loaded with it
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1616[10:56:42] <bumbar_> how can i get autocompletion to work for apt (works for apt-get, but not apt)
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1622[10:59:32] <anton02> humans only get to experience about 50 winters on average while their brains are fully developed
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1626[11:01:51] <towo^work> bumbar_, install bash-completion from testing
1627[11:02:37] <gcbirzan> How does apt-get decide when to use IPv6? I only have link local IPs on my machine, but it still tries to go over IPv6 for my local mirror
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1634[11:06:11] <gcbirzan> Ironically, it stopped doing it now.
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1639[11:08:51] <jelly> gcbirzan: if you figure it out let us know
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1646[11:13:34] <Iridos> doesn't the kernel do that via routing tables?
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1651[11:13:57] <Iridos> or rather... depends what DNS returns
1652[11:14:42] <Iridos> try "host security.debian.org"
1653[11:15:04] <Iridos> and you get ipv4 and ipv6 addresses
1654[11:15:36] <Iridos> for ftp.de.debian.org I only get one ipv4 address, though
1655[11:16:01] <jelly> ideally the resolver library should know better than return unroutable results, else the application itself has to decide what to do
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1657[11:16:04] <Iridos> and for ftp.uk.debian.org one ipv4, one ipv6
1658[11:16:21] <Iridos> but ipv6 is unroutable for me
1659[11:16:52] <Iridos> but I haven't got ipv6 disabled locally
1660[11:16:58] <jelly> Iridos: don't think the "host" command behaves the same way as gethostbyname()
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1663[11:17:57] <Iridos> yeah, it doesn't... for one it ignores /etc/hosts
1664[11:17:57] <jelly> getent hosts ... is closer.
1665[11:18:10] <Iridos> which is pretty ironic for a program called "host"
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1667[11:18:29] <Iridos> err
1668[11:18:40] <Iridos> but getent hosts *only* returns ipv6 for me
1669[11:18:46] <Iridos> that's *not* closer
1670[11:18:56] <Iridos> getent hosts security.debian.org, that is
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1672[11:19:18] <Iridos> that's a bit baffeling, though... I'd also have said it's closer
1673[11:19:57] <jelly> getent ahosts, then
1674[11:20:37] <Iridos> wazzat
1675[11:20:42] <Iridos> that gives ipv4 and ipv6
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1679[11:21:29] <gcbirzan> It gives me only ipv6
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1681[11:22:16] <Iridos> seems the resolving of hosts is much more mysterious than we thought
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1684[11:22:23] <Iridos> at least since there are ipv6 addresses
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1687[11:23:20] <Iridos> heh. 127.0.0.1 replaced-url
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1692[11:30:43] <rdz> hi all. is there a way to install mariadb with a different datadir ? problem is as soon as i'm ready to set the configuration parameter, mariadb already uses /var/lib/mysql and i have to manually stop service, move data to new location, and start service
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1694[11:34:15] <petn-randall> Hi rdz, why is that a problem for you?
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1698[11:36:16] <rdz> petn-randall, because i'm trying to setup mariadb servers with ansible and i'd like to change the default value for datadir
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1705[11:37:10] <rdz> petn-randall, of course, i can make ansible do the steps that i'd manually do, but i consider it ugly... would rather have mariadb read the new config at first start
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1712[11:39:42] <petn-randall> rdz: I see. I think if you drop the appropriate config files there _before_ installing mariadb, they shouldn't be overwritten, and when mariadb gets started in postinst, it should use the correct datadir directly.
1713[11:40:00] <petn-randall> rdz: I don't have a machine to test, but maybe you can try it and report back if that worked for you.
1714[11:40:10] <Iridos> I wonder if that works
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1716[11:40:55] <Iridos> or if the "rC" status of packages is needed
1717[11:41:38] <rdz> petn-randall, you're absolutely right.. and it works.. many thanks!
1718[11:41:39] <Iridos> I guess you could also put a soft-link in place of /var/lib/mysql that points to the new location
1719[11:42:03] <rdz> there is no reason to put configuration files _after_ mariadb-server was installed ;-)
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1721[11:43:01] <Iridos> well, there would be if this was suse :P
1722[11:43:03] <google77> hi guys
1723[11:43:04] <Iridos> and then make them immutable
1724[11:44:32] <rdz> Iridos, luckily it is Debian, I'd say
1725[11:44:39] <google77> I am on testing and I would like to install full KDE just so I can use their software together with i3wm. The problem is KDE at its current state is unstable. Should I do it? I won't actually use KDE itself.
1726[11:44:57] <Iridos> (and maybe they learned... I'm still traumatized from using it ~1999 )
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1738[11:50:53] <crazy-sex> hello
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1752[11:58:45] <your-mom> i'm a tool
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1762[12:02:08] <petn-randall> hi your-mom, do you have a support question?
1763[12:02:32] <your-mom> no, I'm here to keep an eye on you because I am your mom
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1766[12:03:21] <petn-randall> your-mom: That's surprising, since she died two months ago.
1767[12:03:32] <your-mom> LOL
1768[12:03:33] <your-mom> sorry
1769[12:03:38] <your-mom> thats not funny
1770[12:03:49] <your-mom> i meant LOL at me pretending to be her
1771[12:03:54] <your-mom> not at her passing away
1772[12:03:59] <your-mom> sorry for your loss
1773[12:04:33] <your-mom> but I do have a support question
1774[12:04:56] <your-mom> does Debian support steganography? i want to hide my porn inside my other porn
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1777[12:06:33] <petn-randall> your-mom: How far did you get with your own research?
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1779[12:07:13] <your-mom> petn-randall: well, as soon as I type anything with the word "porn" into google the first results are images. then i get distracted
1780[12:07:49] * petn-randall shrugs.
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1783[12:10:17] <MaBunny> lool
1784[12:10:35] <MaBunny> btw....
1785[12:10:54] <MaBunny> anyone of you guys hav been having any trouble with your hexchat clients?
1786[12:11:07] <your-mom> MaBunny: No
1787[12:11:11] <your-mom> I dont use hexchat
1788[12:11:24] <MaBunny> mines not being able to make a secured conn to freenode for some reason
1789[12:11:30] <your-mom> i just use some shitty mobile client
1790[12:11:33] <your-mom> for the lulz
1791[12:11:36] <your-mom> and goatsex
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1793[12:11:57] <your-mom> vote for weev! make the GNAA great again!
1794[12:12:01] <MaBunny> your-mom: you seem to be a crazed fella to me...so i would ignore you
1795[12:12:08] <your-mom> MaBunny: no
1796[12:12:11] <your-mom> dont ignore me
1797[12:12:21] <your-mom> or the curse of the goatse shall be upon you!
1798[12:12:29] <petn-randall> !ops your-mom is obvious troll.
1799[12:12:30] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: your-mom is obvious troll.
1800[12:12:32] <MaBunny> well the situation is like this
1801[12:12:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o babilen
1802[12:12:38] *** babilen sets mode: +b *!*@ns3031788.ip-149-202-205.eu
1803[12:12:38] *** your-mom was kicked by babilen (you should know better)
1804[12:12:38] *** babilen sets mode: -o babilen
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1806[12:13:00] <petn-randall> babilen: thanks
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1808[12:13:09] <MaBunny> sometimes i CAN connect to freenode using a secured conn
1809[12:13:48] <MaBunny> but sometimes,like now....it doesnt connect and just stops
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1811[12:14:00] <petn-randall> MaBunny: Did you check the connection details? You need to use a different port to connect.
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1813[12:14:21] <MaBunny> like the latency just goes on increasing till 30 sec n then it says Conn reset by peer
1814[12:14:31] <goatse-security> i need help making a firewall exception
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1816[12:14:40] <MaBunny> no i just tried port 6697 but
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1818[12:15:05] <MaBunny> its happened to me b4 too...thought i speak to you guys about it
1819[12:15:32] <goatse-security> I need to open port 69
1820[12:15:33] <MaBunny> earlier and now too i just let it rest for some hours....then i try to conn and
1821[12:15:38] <MaBunny> it connects
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1824[12:16:19] <MaBunny> but when i lose the latency for like greater then 30 secs it is a nightmare really....especially the first time of the day
1825[12:16:26] <MaBunny> which was like today
1826[12:16:45] <goatse-security> the goat told me to try 69.
1827[12:16:46] <MaBunny> i am now speaking to you guys with a diff client,f-irc actually
1828[12:16:53] <petn-randall> !ops goatse-security
1829[12:16:53] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: goatse-security
1830[12:16:57] <goatse-security> how do I open port 69?
1831[12:17:02] <goatse-security> its for the goat
1832[12:17:14] <MaBunny> but its a PIA
1833[12:17:16] <goatse-security> petn-randall: what in gods name did you do?
1834[12:17:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o babilen
1835[12:17:33] <goatse-security> are you trying to flood the channel?
1836[12:17:33] *** babilen sets mode: +b *!*@116.ip-149-56-132.net
1837[12:17:33] *** goatse-security was kicked by babilen (you should know better)
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1839[12:17:37] <MaBunny> so here what i hav done to my hexchat
1840[12:17:56] <MaBunny> i hav included some chans in the auto-join list for freenode
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1843[12:18:30] <MaBunny> plus some changes in preferences and the settings panel,idk i dont remember
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1845[12:19:08] <MaBunny> i hav also set SSL for all servers on this network
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1847[12:19:23] <MaBunny> any ideas guys
1848[12:20:28] <Rephlexie> what does the server say? Click the freenode tab above the channels.
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1850[12:20:42] <MaBunny> ok
1851[12:21:31] <MaBunny> ill paste it online
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1854[12:22:16] <MaBunny> replaced-url
1855[12:22:27] <MaBunny> heres the server tab contents
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1863[12:31:06] <MaBunny> guys any sugg???
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1865[12:33:18] <Rephlexie> mine is similar but my hex client requests sasl (Goto Network list -> login method)
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1867[12:35:02] <MaBunny> i hav included SSL in the network list settings
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1882[12:56:13] <jelly> MaBunny: that paste looks as if you've managed to connect successfully
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1886[12:59:56] <anton02> this is a chinese man replaced-url
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1896[13:06:30] <jelly> anton02: wrong channel for pepe. Tech support for Debian please, or enjoy the silence.
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1919[13:16:14] <hiya> why is Intel 4400 graphics so sluggish with i5-4th gen laptop from Dell 3542 laptop?
1920[13:16:19] <hiya> is there anything I could do
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1942[13:25:48] <pflanze> I'm in the Debian rescue image, chrooted into my system on an external USB drive, and in the midst of creating LVM partitions on the internal drive of the computer, looking forward to copying over the files from external to internal.
1943[13:26:51] <pflanze> Somehow "lvcreate -n partname vgname -L 8G" hung, but after ctl-c "vgdisplay -v" would still show partname
1944[13:27:10] <pflanze> but there's no /dev/vgname/partname
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1949[13:27:59] <pflanze> "vgchange -a y vgname" would hang again...
1950[13:28:19] <pflanze> ctl-a and I still have no device files. ?
1951[13:29:47] <pflanze> Ahh, "/etc/init.d/udev start" solved it.
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2072[14:38:46] <saunamees> I want to reduce LDAP traffic between my web server and remote LDAP server, can LDAP client cache everything. What I assume is that LDAP Client is always working and can cache, but not sure if understanding LDAP right.
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2086[14:44:30] <abrotman> saunamees: nslcd ?
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2089[14:47:10] <saunamees> i don't know what that is. I am using openldap/slapd client. Don't know anything about server
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2109[15:03:47] <Olof_szary> hello, Does anyone have expriance with debian + lustre?
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2111[15:03:59] <Olof_szary> or other distributedFS
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2116[15:06:57] <petn-randall> !ask
2117[15:06:58] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2122[15:08:38] <chachasmooth> has anyone tried itunes on ubuntu with playonlinux ?
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2126[15:09:36] <Olof_szary> ok, Other way around. Is there a deb package for lustre system, or do I have to compile everything from the sources. Does standard debian kernel has a lustre support (client side)?
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2139[15:16:59] <petn-randall> chachasmooth: You'd have to ask the folks in #ubuntu, this is the Debian support channel.
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2145[15:18:54] <petn-randall> Olof_szary: the lustre kernel modules are there, but there are no user space tools packaged for lustre, AFAICS.
2146[15:19:26] <petn-randall> Olof_szary: You can check that through this web page: replaced-url
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2185[15:32:56] <Olof_szary> petn-randall: thanks. Do you know any 'client-out-of-box' distributed file systems on debian?
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2189[15:34:05] <Olof_szary> + if kernel modules are there, it should be enough to do mount -t lustre serverip:/resource /mnt/here?
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2204[15:41:31] <bumbar_> i'm trying to create en_US locale but it's generating en_GB for some reason: replaced-url
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2226[15:48:23] <napnap> Hi all, I've a lot of pain to install debian from serial. Can you point me a good tutorial to do it ? (I use unetbootin to make the usb key)
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2234[15:51:13] <napnap> (not fro serial but with serial output)
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2236[15:54:22] <jhutchins> napnap: You're trying to get a serial console?
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2304[16:22:09] <napnap> jhutchins, I try to isntall it with serial output. I got the grub unetbootin menu, then I launch the install, after inirt I got three "?" and nothing more...
2305[16:23:34] <napnap> I modified some files like this replaced-url
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2315[16:26:46] <jhutchins> napnap: I don't have any specific knowledge of your problem, but I think the first thing I would do is see if it actually works with Ubuntu.
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2328[16:29:37] <Ulrar> Hi, can I tell apt to skip configuring a package ? It seems to be stuck in configuring apache complaining about conflicting modules, I'd like to just stop that as I'll be importing my conf from somewhere else anyway
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2330[16:30:08] <m4rcu5> I am trying to build an kernel package for an exynos5422 device, i can sucessfully compile one using make-kpkg, but i'd like to include the dts file (arch/arm/boot/dts/..) and some custom kernel post install scripts (creating the uInitrd). How would i approach this?
2331[16:30:13] <nkuttler> Ulrar: paste.debian.net the entire error
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2334[16:30:58] <Ulrar> nkuttler: replaced-url
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2336[16:31:20] <Ulrar> I tried disabling the different mpms but it ends up saying mpm_event is enabled and conflicting even if it isn't even installed
2337[16:31:46] <nkuttler> Ulrar: a2dismod mpm_prefork ?
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2339[16:31:55] <Ulrar> I tried
2340[16:32:05] <Ulrar> It says mpm_event is conflicting if I do that
2341[16:32:10] <Ulrar> Which it is not
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2345[16:32:40] <nkuttler> Ulrar: that's odd. you should file a bug. you can fix this by editing /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.postinst i guess
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2347[16:32:49] <nkuttler> ,v apache2
2348[16:32:50] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze15; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u1; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u4; stretch: 2.4.20-2; sid: 2.4.23-1
2349[16:33:05] <Ulrar> What should I change in there ?
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2352[16:33:27] <nkuttler> Ulrar: is the error generated there?
2353[16:33:40] <nkuttler> Ulrar: put set -x on the second line and run your command again
2354[16:33:49] <Ulrar> rm /var/lib/apache2/deferred_actions ?
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2356[16:33:54] <Ulrar> Looks like that's the problem
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2358[16:34:08] <nkuttler> Ulrar: that doesn't really seem related
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2360[16:34:41] <Ulrar> I really don't have the time for that .. might be quicker to deploy a new VM
2361[16:35:06] <Ulrar> With set -x it does output a lot of stuff
2362[16:35:06] <nkuttler> if you think that's faster, sure
2363[16:35:14] <nkuttler> Ulrar: yeah, paste the entire output
2364[16:35:37] <Ulrar> Well funny, it worked
2365[16:35:47] <nkuttler> yay randomness
2366[16:35:51] <Ulrar> Like set -x solved the problem, that's ridiculous
2367[16:35:53] <Ulrar> Well thanks anyway
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2369[16:36:01] <nkuttler> that can't be, but good riddance
2370[16:36:13] <greycat> set -x is supposed to help you *find* the problem in a script, not fix it for you
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2372[16:37:29] <Ulrar> Yeah it makes no sense
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2410[16:53:10] <jelly> hiya: you can try installing linux-image-amd64, xserver-xorg-video-intel and libgl1-mesa-dri from jessie-backports
2411[16:53:25] <jelly> dpkg, tell hiya about jessie-backports
2412[16:53:36] <jelly> hiya: assuming you're on debian 8 now
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2456[17:10:04] <mikejw_> I seem to be having this issue.. any ideas of a quick workaround? replaced-url
2457[17:10:05] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2489[17:24:44] <dondelelcaro> mikejw_: in theory, that particular issue should have been fixed
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2505[17:30:31] <XeonSquared> Geniuses, how would I go about fixing something like this:
2506[17:30:33] <XeonSquared> kernel:[15047.520009] NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 1
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2532[17:38:34] <mikejw_> dondelelcaro: apparently my dhcp is requesting an unlimited supply of IP addresses
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2534[17:39:17] <greycat> Let me guess. It's another docker/ansible/puppet/VM thing.
2535[17:39:38] <greycat> "I'm spinning up 321473947298347932 VMs per millisecond and each one requests a DHCP IP and doesn't release it..."?
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2540[17:41:35] <jhutchins> mikejw_: What release, and what do you use to manage your networking?
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2542[17:42:00] <mikejw_> ifupdown
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2544[17:42:36] <mikejw_> wpasupplicant
2545[17:42:40] <mikejw_> ?
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2549[17:44:16] <jhutchins> mikejw_: Which release?
2550[17:44:22] <mikejw_> jessie
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2552[17:45:22] <jhutchins> mikejw_: What do you do to get past that point at boot, and how are you determining that it's a dhcp issue?
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2562[17:48:15] <mikejw_> jhutchins: I'd need to put you in touch with my IT department :P
2563[17:48:42] <greycat> What exactly did your IT representative tell you your system was doing?
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2566[17:49:07] <mikejw_> continuing to request IP addresses until they all ran out
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2568[17:49:24] <mikejw_> pretty classes :)
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2570[17:49:27] <mikejw_> *classy
2571[17:50:21] <greycat> Are you doing something in a VM? Are you spoofing your MAC address so you appear to be a different client each time?
2572[17:50:33] <leba2> Has anyone tried setting a samba4 active directory on debian?
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2574[17:52:29] <mikejw_> greycat: nope and nope
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2577[17:53:20] <greycat> Then the question becomes "why is the DHCP server not reusing your previous address", and you may have to work more closely with your IT representative for this.
2578[17:54:32] <mikejw_> I've given them my mac address, hopefully that's all they need
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2593[18:00:03] <hiya> Which packages install Intel graphics drivers?
2594[18:00:07] <leba2> Guess not...
2595[18:00:23] <greycat> xserver-xorg-video-intel
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2600[18:02:56] <g38> hello. On my default install (of raspbian Jessie, but it should be the same as debian Jessie) I notice that the ntp service is enabled, but timedatectl reports that NTP is disabled. Is there any drawback if I disable the ntp service and issue "timedatectl set-ntp yes"? (I only want the date on my system to be set by ntp, I don't need to act as a server to other computers.)
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2605[18:04:31] <jhutchins> g38: First, defaults like that are exactly the kind of thing that changes in debian derivatives. Second, you should probably read the docs for the timedatectl system so you understand which component is doing what.
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2608[18:05:13] <hiya> greycat, so if I install this package from backports I would have latest drivers?
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2610[18:06:01] <greycat> hiya: You'd have a newer driver. Not sure how close it is to "latest".
2611[18:06:19] <g38> jhutchins, well, my understanding is that timedatectl controls the systemd time component (systemd-timesyncd.service), which is different from ntp.service, and I imagine that the point of the ntp service is to do more than just syncing the local clock; but then I am not sure and that's why I ask my question here...
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2613[18:07:02] <greycat> jessie doesn't actually *use* the systemd-time thing by default, does it?
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2615[18:07:26] <hiya> greycat, ok installed but how to activate it now?
2616[18:07:31] <greycat> reboot
2617[18:07:35] <greycat> then start X
2618[18:07:45] <g38> greycat, yes, that's precisely my point -- is there any drawback if I disable ntp and use the systemd-time thing instead? (at least I can see one reason to do it: ntpd seems to listen on a number of ports, I'm not sure why)
2619[18:07:47] <greycat> (unless your X starts by itself, in which case, skip step 2)
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2622[18:08:47] <greycat> Does "You'll be using a wonky bleeding edge barely tested systemd piece of crap instead of a traditonal, well-tested, bloated but probably mostly debugged NTP server" count as a drawback?
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2624[18:09:23] <g38> at least that's a piece of information; I had no idea what it was
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2634[18:14:03] <jhutchins> g38: replaced-url
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2638[18:15:37] <jhutchins> g38: My current understanding is that NTP will keep your system clock more consistently accurate, while the systemd daemon will only adjust it at boot and shutdown.
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2643[18:18:03] <hiya> greycat, What all mesa packages should I install from backports if I want to upgrade mesa?
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2646[18:19:28] <g38> jhutchins, thanks, this page is useful, see also replaced-url
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2651[18:20:08] <leba2> Has anyone tried setting a samba4 active directory on debian?
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2658[18:23:43] <jhutchins> leba2: I'm sure somebody has.
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2660[18:24:21] <leba2> I'm having a very hard time trying to decide which kerberos package to use, if krb5 or heimdal...
2661[18:24:32] <hiya> I want to upgrade mesa
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2679[18:30:57] <jhutchins> hiya: You might start off with dpkg -l | grep mesa, then see which of those packages are available in backports.
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2683[18:32:48] <hiya> jhutchins, But when I try to upgrade it asks me to remove all the packages including nautilus
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2693[18:35:45] <hiya> Can anyone help me upgrade Mesa to backports version? I am scared since it is asking me to reinstall almost everything
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2700[18:38:03] <somiaj> hiya: can you explain what you did, and then maybe paste the output of all the packages it wants to upgrade and the commands you ran.
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2703[18:38:47] <somiaj> ,v mesa-utils
2704[18:38:48] <judd> Package: mesa-utils on amd64 -- squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; wheezy: 8.0.1-2+b3; jessie: 8.2.0-1; stretch: 8.3.0-1; sid: 8.3.0-1
2705[18:38:56] <somiaj> ,v libgl1-mesa-glx
2706[18:38:58] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on amd64 -- squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports: 7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 11.1.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 11.2.2-1; sid: 11.2.2-1
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2709[18:40:48] <somiaj> hiya: use paste.debian.net to paste the output
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2721[18:47:29] <agent_usa> Question: I am trying to verify the signature on the SHA256SUMS file for debian 8.5 but it says public key not found. Where do I find the key that was used to sign the file?
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2723[18:48:52] <greycat> sha256 is a hash function, not an asymmetric public key cipher
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2725[18:49:55] <agent_usa> I know.
2726[18:50:32] <agent_usa> user@host:~/Downloads$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS
2727[18:51:07] <agent_usa> I confirmed the sha256 hash in the SHA256SUMS file matches the sha256 hash of my iso file.
2728[18:51:07] <TomTomTosch> it should be in the same dir you found the iso in.
2729[18:51:38] <agent_usa> I get this:
2730[18:51:51] <agent_usa> gpg: Signature made Sun 05 Jun 2016 03:59:41 PM UTC
2731[18:51:51] <agent_usa> gpg: using RSA key 0xDA87E80D6294BE9B
2732[18:51:51] <agent_usa> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
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2734[18:52:06] <greycat> so ask a key server for key 0xDA87E80D6294BE9B
2735[18:52:08] <agent_usa> So I need to get that key imported.
2736[18:52:22] <agent_usa> Ah I see.
2737[18:52:28] <agent_usa> Thanks.
2738[18:52:36] <TomTomTosch> or just install the debian keyring.
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2740[18:52:52] <agent_usa> I did apt-get install debian-keyring
2741[18:53:03] <agent_usa> Do I need to do something after that?
2742[18:53:09] <agent_usa> To import the keys?
2743[18:53:19] <hiya> somiaj, I did not go anything yet I just upgraded the intel driver from BPO in Jessie and upon basic research I found that Mesa 10.3.2 is too old and we need that from BPO too, but when I try to do
2744[18:53:29] <hiya> aptitude -t jessie-backports install libegl1-mesa
2745[18:53:49] <hiya> It asks me to remove gnome and install cinnamon and still there would be unresolved packages it says
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2752[18:56:15] <hiya> apt-get install -t jessie-backports xserver-xorg-video-intel is done but I don't know how to upgrade Mesa to 11+
2753[18:56:15] <hexnewbie> hiya: Can you pastebin the output of that with the -V option added?
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2755[18:56:32] <greycat> "remove gnome" if it's literal is nothing to be concerned about. "gnome" is a meta-package, just used to bring in other packages.
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2757[18:57:08] <greycat> But if it's actually "want to remove about 300 gnome packages", well, that's different.
2758[18:57:12] <hexnewbie> hiya: Also aptitude usually gives you a reason why it would do something, and offers you other optins.
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2762[18:58:23] <hexnewbie> hiya: Your command doesn't want to remove anything for me (not even nautilus). Without a pastebin, my guess would be that the meta package conflicts with something, and aptitude is eager to remove everything that it depends on because... it's being aptitude.
2763[18:58:25] <leba2> Does anyone know if debian 8 ships acl/xattr ready out of the box?
2764[18:58:28] <unborn> hiya: hello - why do you need to upgrade your working drivers of your 'mesa' ? did older drivers not working for you?
2765[18:58:41] <hiya> replaced-url
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2767[18:59:00] <greycat> leba2: package "acl" is optional
2768[18:59:10] <hiya> Yes Intel guys says Intel 4400 would work awesome if I upgrade both Intel grapchis + Mesa to BPO versions
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2770[18:59:31] <leba2> greycat: I meant at file system and kernel levels
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2772[18:59:33] <hiya> replaced-url
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2774[18:59:37] <hiya> hexnewbie, ^
2775[18:59:59] <hexnewbie> hiya: -V not -v. Also, what happens when you say no to the solutions you don't like? Also, what's the apt-get output?
2776[19:00:30] <hexnewbie> Though I guess 11.1.3-1~bpo8+1 is the answer to the -V question
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2779[19:00:50] <unborn> hiya: its same as I would say, if I pee daily on my head - it would stop loosing the hair... if old drivers working for you properly then dont do the 'fix' of something that is working..
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2782[19:01:11] <hiya> unborn, not working good
2783[19:01:16] <hiya> sluggish performance
2784[19:01:21] <unborn> hiya: in what?
2785[19:01:22] <hiya> hexchat hangs
2786[19:01:29] <hiya> Firefox hangs
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2788[19:01:48] <leba2> greycat: I meant at file system and kernel levels
2789[19:01:54] <hiya> When I try to click on Activities suddenly it freezes and that effect is so sluggish
2790[19:02:16] <greycat> leba2: I ... don't know why the kernel wouldn't be ready for the acl package, since the acl package is offered.
2791[19:02:23] <unborn> hiya: that is possibly due your brainless tweaks/hacks.. debian work perfectly with intel stuff.. I use it on all my machines
2792[19:02:33] <hiya> Althought upgrading to newer Intel driver has helped a bit, I just need to find a way to upgrade Mesa now
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2794[19:02:44] <unborn> as I said, dont fix what is working
2795[19:02:50] <hexnewbie> hiya: Is direct rendering active? When you run glxinfo / glxgears in a terminal, do you get any errors regarding, say, the dri devices? Or about missing direct rendering? Anything about missing firmware in dmesg?
2796[19:03:16] <hiya> hexnewbie, when I say no, it says same again
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2798[19:03:30] <unborn> I just need to find a way to upgrade Mesa now - then speak to mesa
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2800[19:03:35] <awal1> hiya, as jmcnaught told you check if all the needed pkgs are in backports. seems not regarding your paste
2801[19:03:40] * unborn dont understand those people
2802[19:03:44] <kriminol> ALLAH IS THE ANSWER TO ALL LINUX PROBLEMS. RESPECT ALLAH AND ALLAH SEND NICE VIRGIN PUSSY TO UBUNTU!
2803[19:03:48] <kriminol> ALLAH IS THE ANSWER TO ALL LINUX PROBLEMS. RESPECT ALLAH AND ALLAH SEND NICE VIRGIN PUSSY TO UBUNTU!
2804[19:03:52] <kriminol> ALLAH IS THE ANSWER TO ALL LINUX PROBLEMS. RESPECT ALLAH AND ALLAH SEND NICE VIRGIN PUSSY TO UBUNTU!
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2806[19:03:54] <hexnewbie> hiya: Even when you say no multiple times until you get exhausted (aptitude sucks that way)? Or when you use apt-get instead of aptitude (which usually suggest a better solution)?
2807[19:03:55] <kriminol> ALLAH IS THE ANSWER TO ALL LINUX PROBLEMS. RESPECT ALLAH AND ALLAH SEND NICE VIRGIN PUSSY TO UBUNTU!
2808[19:03:56] <hiya> unborn, but there is Mesa in BPO, but debian won't just let me install it
2809[19:03:59] <kriminol> ALLAH IS THE ANSWER TO ALL LINUX PROBLEMS. RESPECT ALLAH AND ALLAH SEND NICE VIRGIN PUSSY TO UBUNTU!
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2812[19:04:06] <greycat> too slow
2813[19:04:12] *** greycat sets mode: -o greycat
2814[19:04:15] <unborn> hiya: speak to mesa guys..
2815[19:04:22] <unborn> they will tell you why
2816[19:04:34] <hiya> Who are they?
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2821[19:06:39] <awal1> hiya, there are unmet deps, as aptitude told you. solve that backporting them yourself
2822[19:07:08] <teraflops> heh
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2824[19:07:16] <hexnewbie> aptitude usually suggests an upgrade automatically when you pester it with a dozen of "no"s on the prompts
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2827[19:09:02] <hiya> What all packages to install
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2829[19:09:09] <hiya> Also Mesa package is not working
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2831[19:09:32] <hiya> aptitude -t jessie-backports install mesa
2832[19:09:33] <leba2> What do I need to do for filesystem (ext4) to support xattr? Just add line CONFIG_EXT4_FS_XATTR=y in /boot/config-*? Because it's not there in Debian 8 by default! Or do I need to install more packages?
2833[19:09:35] <hiya> not working :(
2834[19:10:15] <awal1> teraflops, I dont understand why people complicates things. if aptitude/apt returns an output about unmet deps, so it's a dependencies issue. what can be done in that case so? procced with the installation and have a broken system or recompile/rebuild it all :P
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2837[19:10:26] <greycat> leba2: /boot/config-* are the READ ONLY files that TELL YOU what features the kernel was built with. Editing one would be pointless.
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2839[19:10:45] * greycat wonders what the hell xattr is
2840[19:10:49] <somiaj> ,v libwaylend-egl1-mesa
2841[19:10:50] <judd> No package named 'libwaylend-egl1-mesa' was found in amd64.
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2843[19:10:53] <google77> hi, is it possible to install libhunspell-1.3 in testing?
2844[19:10:59] <somiaj> ,v libwayland-egl1-mesa
2845[19:11:00] <judd> Package: libwayland-egl1-mesa on amd64 -- jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 11.1.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 11.2.2-1; sid: 11.2.2-1
2846[19:11:14] <babilen> judd: v libhunspell-1.3
2847[19:11:15] <judd> No package named 'libhunspell-1.3' was found in amd64.
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2849[19:11:31] <babilen> judd: v libhunspell-1.3-0
2850[19:11:32] <judd> Package: libhunspell-1.3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3.2-4; jessie: 1.3.3-3; sid: 1.3.4-2
2851[19:12:03] <google77> thx.
2852[19:12:04] <babilen> google77: Just pull it from sid (you should have it in your sources.list anyway, set the default release to "testing" or "stretch" depending on your setup)
2853[19:12:12] <babilen> dpkg: tell google77 -about tum
2854[19:12:20] <greycat> Whaaaattt??
2855[19:12:26] <google77> ok thx
2856[19:12:35] <teraflops> awal1: imo stay in stable, you want testing but have unmet deps in backports? 1) go upgrade to testing 2) you backport yourself what you need
2857[19:12:38] <babilen> google77: Also: testing and unstable are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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2859[19:13:01] <google77> sorry babilen
2860[19:13:32] <google77> but it's kind of a bother to reconfigure irssi to use another server just for one room.
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2862[19:13:45] <google77> but I will remember for future reference
2863[19:13:53] <babilen> google77: Great (no worries)
2864[19:14:08] <greycat> irssi can connect to multiple servers simultaneously
2865[19:14:25] <google77> It can?
2866[19:14:26] <leba2> greycat: for a samba ad dc I need CONFIG_EXT4_FS_XATTR=y in /boot/config-`uname -a`, but it's not there! So that means Debian 8 simply *does not support xattr at all in its kernel*?
2867[19:14:31] <babilen> Oh, absolutely
2868[19:14:45] <greycat> I have no idea what an xattr is. Sorry.
2869[19:14:52] <awal1> teraflops, exact, thats hiya case :P
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2871[19:14:57] <babilen> google77: replaced-url
2872[19:15:09] <greycat> I get 6 lines of =y output from grep -i xattr /boot/config-3.16.0-4-amd64 but I don't know what they mean.
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2876[19:16:08] <hiya> awal1, teraflops I think I need new kernel
2877[19:16:26] <hiya> so I won't do the upgrade unless some qualified sys admin helps me
2878[19:16:32] <hiya> I know one I would wait for him to assist me
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2880[19:17:02] <jelly> qualified support starts from $80/hr :-)
2881[19:17:10] <leba2> greycat: it means they literally kicked out xattr support for ext4 file system!
2882[19:17:28] <leba2> I was putting heavy faith on debian, but Inow I got disappointed....
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2884[19:17:45] <greycat> Are you sure that existed in 3.16 in the first place? "Kicked out" could really just be "did not add".
2885[19:17:54] <jelly> leba2: surely you meant /boot/config-`uname -r`
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2887[19:19:11] <jelly> leba2: I believe the option is not there, because the feature is mandatory now (you can't get ext4 without it)
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2890[19:20:07] <DeaDSouL_> hi, how can I know the nfs version from terminal?
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2892[19:20:23] <greycat> The NFS version of what? A specific mount?
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2894[19:20:56] <DeaDSouL_> the server
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2896[19:21:12] <jelly> leba2: if you grep XATTR you will see other filesystem types with =y
2897[19:21:15] <greycat> Which NFS protocol versions are available on the server? If the server is Debian, then it supports up to NFSv4.
2898[19:21:38] <leba2> jelly: replaced-url
2899[19:21:47] <DeaDSouL_> greycat: but is there a command like `something --version` ?
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2901[19:22:04] <jelly> leba2: did you try using it?
2902[19:22:17] <greycat> DeaDSouL_: I don't know WHAT YOU WANT yet. I'm trying to figure it out.
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2906[19:23:23] <DeaDSouL_> greycat: if I'm sharing a folder from this pc, using nfs ....... how can I know what nfs version I'm using to share that folder
2907[19:23:38] <hexnewbie> leba2: I get the user xattrs working on ext4 even without any XATTR options, or user_xattr mount options.
2908[19:23:44] <greycat> DeaDSouL_: go to the client and look at the vers= option in "mount" for this particular mount.
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2912[19:24:05] <greycat> E.g. imadev:/home/wooledg on /net/home/wooledg type nfs (rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=327 ...
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2914[19:24:13] <greycat> In that example vers=3
2915[19:24:14] <DeaDSouL_> greycat: this is the problem... the client can *not* mount the shared folder
2916[19:24:19] <greycat> *sigh*
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2918[19:24:21] <greycat> Fucking christ.
2919[19:24:25] <DeaDSouL_> I'm trying to figure the reason
2920[19:24:39] <greycat> Then try various protocols by hand, starting with 3, then 2, then 4.
2921[19:24:43] <agent_usa> What's the syntax to use gpg to download a key from the debian key server?
2922[19:24:57] <greycat> gpg --recv-keys --keyserver something something
2923[19:25:04] <DeaDSouL_> greycat: ok
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2926[19:25:22] <leba2> jelly: "if you grep XATTR you will see other filesystem types with =y" <---- *Exactly*. All other filesystems listed, except ext4.
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2929[19:25:40] <greycat> leba2: Did you actually *try* it yet, or are you just whining about something that you *think* is missing?
2930[19:25:44] <agent_usa> thanks
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2932[19:25:53] <_abc_> How does one downgrade firefox 42 to iceweasel 38. It does not seem to be possible. On Wheezy.
2933[19:25:54] <jelly> leba2: did you try mounting an ext4 fs with xattr mount option?
2934[19:26:01] <hiya> jelly, yes but they help me for free :D
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2937[19:26:13] <_abc_> I mistakenly upgraded it while updating other things and it is broken, does not work on my hardware
2938[19:26:23] <_abc_> I am using aptitude.
2939[19:26:27] <greycat> _abc_: purge it.
2940[19:26:29] <leba2> greycat: in my still short but NOT limited experience, whenever I have seen something missing means that *it's really not there*.
2941[19:26:43] <leba2> *has meant
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2943[19:26:49] <greycat> 13:19 jelly> leba2: I believe the option is not there, because the feature is mandatory now (you can't get ext4 without it)
2944[19:26:53] <jelly> leba2: I'll wait here until you actually try it on debian 8 with a debian 8 kernel.
2945[19:27:02] <jelly> good luck.
2946[19:27:04] <_abc_> greycat: I uninstalled it but how do I get the old one back?
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2948[19:27:14] <hexnewbie> DeaDSouL_: rpcinfo -p <server>
2949[19:27:15] <greycat> _abc_: apt-get install iceweasel
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2953[19:27:30] <_abc_> greycat: some dweebs replaced it with firefox 42
2954[19:27:31] <jelly> _abc_: you'll probably have to pick it out from snapshot.debian.org
2955[19:27:37] <_abc_> jelly: okay
2956[19:27:42] <jelly> _abc_: it's 45esr, not 42, but yeah
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2958[19:27:48] <greycat> They replaced iceweasel in *wheezy*? Are you sure?
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2960[19:27:55] <jelly> ,v iceweasel
2961[19:27:56] <judd> Package: iceweasel on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 38.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 38.8.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie: 38.8.0esr-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 45.2.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid:
2962[19:27:57] <judd> 45.2.0esr-1; stretch: 45.2.0esr-1
2963[19:28:14] <leba2> jelly: I'm trying with a Debian 8.5 clean minimal installation (used amd64 DVD).
2964[19:28:24] <agent_usa> Is this the debian signing key?
2965[19:28:25] <agent_usa> DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B
2966[19:28:26] <leba2> minimal=core
2967[19:28:33] <jelly> _abc_: it does look like 38esr is still available in wheezy repos.
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2972[19:29:10] <DeaDSouL_> hexnewbie: thanks bro
2973[19:30:06] <_abc_> Yes
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2975[19:30:20] <_abc_> What's the difference between ~deb8u1 and ~deb7u1
2976[19:30:26] <_abc_> 7 is wheezy 8 is the next one?
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2978[19:30:29] <jelly> agent_usa: replaced-url
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2983[19:31:40] <agent_usa> Yeah just wanted to make sure some sophisticated attacker wasn't doing a mitm attack on me to make me see the wrong key fingerprint. :)
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2985[19:31:57] <jelly> agent_usa: if they can do that, they can also MITM your irc client.
2986[19:31:59] <leba2> How can I know if xattr extended attributes are actually working in Debian 8 ext4?
2987[19:32:07] <greycat> By testing it.
2988[19:32:13] <jelly> leba2: try it and see
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2990[19:32:20] <agent_usa> True, jelly! So let's say only 90% sophisticated.
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2992[19:32:59] <jelly> leba2: install "attr" and play with them?
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2994[19:33:29] <jelly> agent_usa: "yes that's the right key" *mwahahahahah*
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2996[19:33:39] <leba2> I've never ever heard about something called "attr", much less played with that
2997[19:33:57] <jelly> and yet you want to use extended attributes.
2998[19:34:04] <jelly> ,i attr
2999[19:34:05] <judd> Package attr (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: Utilities for manipulating filesystem extended attributes. Version: 1:2.4.47-2; Size: 41.8k; Installed: 119k; Homepage: replaced-url
3000[19:34:08] <agent_usa> Someone was saying that if you really want to make sure of the correct fingerprint you should call several people on the phone in different countries and have them read off what they see.
3001[19:34:10] <hexnewbie> leba2: touch xattrtestfilefile; setfattr -n user.test -v test xattrtestfilefile; getfattr -d xattrtestfilefile; rm xattrtestfilefile
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3003[19:34:21] <awal1> hiya, if you want to upgrade from jessie to stretch (stable » testing) people can assist you here too. the problem is not how but if the upgrade will be successful :P
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3006[19:34:49] <greycat> awal1: actually that's not supported here, although the bot can probably give the commands to do so
3007[19:35:00] <jelly> awal1: "people" are MUCH more likely to point them to #debian-next on irc.debian.org if they come with stretch questions
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3009[19:35:36] <awal1> greycat, jelly, by here I meant debian channels in general :P
3010[19:35:57] <marijnfs> does anyone have the hp stream laptop working with tap-to-click?
3011[19:35:57] <jelly> sure, but debian channels in general are on OFTC in general
3012[19:36:32] <marijnfs> it used to work, but after update months ago it has stopped
3013[19:36:49] <leba2> hexnewbie: and that should give me a 0 in echo $? ?
3014[19:37:24] <greycat> unfuckingbelievable
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3016[19:37:45] <hexnewbie> leba2: getfattr should print the "user.test" extended attribute with a value of "test"
3017[19:37:48] <greycat> leba2: try reading the man pages for getfattr and so on
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3025[19:41:29] <leba2> Got user.test="test"
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3027[19:41:47] <leba2> Thanks.
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3030[19:42:34] <leba2> Still I cannot believe debian's ext4 includes xattrs now in an implicit way
3031[19:42:34] <awal1> marijinfs, what happens if you run in terminal synclient TapButton1=1
3032[19:42:46] <leba2> I.e., no specific option in /boot/config-*
3033[19:43:09] <jelly> leba2: try a different distro, see if they have it.
3034[19:43:37] <leba2> jelly: well, I remember debian7 did include that option, and I recently tried centos6, which also included.
3035[19:43:40] <greycat> leba2: You read a Samba wiki page last edited in 2015. It's probably just citing very old information that was once true.
3036[19:43:56] <leba2> ^ Yes, right...
3037[19:43:59] <leba2> You're right....
3038[19:44:18] <TomTomTosch> debian7 and centos6 both use the same old kernel.
3039[19:44:37] <leba2> ^ ..... OUCH
3040[19:44:46] <leba2> Means I should check centos7!
3041[19:45:03] <leba2> I hate big changes....
3042[19:45:07] <leba2> Realyl loathe them
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3047[19:45:23] <leba2> They didn't have enough with just forcing systemd...
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3049[19:45:34] <jelly> leba2: what you remember, and what a recent kernel does and what CONFIG options it has may be very different
3050[19:45:57] <jelly> centos7 doesn't even give you a /boot/config* or /proc/kconfig.gz
3051[19:46:01] <leba2> What a dark nasty age.
3052[19:46:27] <TomTomTosch> because some option is enabled by default?
3053[19:46:33] <jelly> let's focus on tech issues, do you have any other debian support question?
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3057[19:49:18] <jelly> replaced-url
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3063[19:52:57] <mktt> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with unpacking linux-headers, i was wondering if you could possibly help me
3064[19:53:04] <mktt> its stuck on `Unpacking linux-headers-4.6.0-1-common (4.6.3-1) over (4.6.3-1)`
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3066[19:53:41] <mktt> I've already tried to clean apt-get, and install it from the .deb
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3069[19:54:33] <jelly> wait for it to finish, and in the meantime verify (dmesg) if you have any issues with the disk or whatever block device
3070[19:54:39] <jelly> also
3071[19:54:47] <jelly> !debian-next
3072[19:54:48] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3075[19:56:06] <leba2> jelly: the commit is from 2012. Was it before new kernel used by debian8 was actualyl released?
3076[19:56:48] <jelly> I think I'll leave that for you to figure out
3077[19:57:02] * jelly lazy
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3079[19:58:14] <leba2> thanks
3080[19:58:19] <leba2> (not sarcasm)
3081[19:58:24] <TomTomTosch> 3.16 is from around mid 2014
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3084[19:58:52] <hexnewbie> mktt: On one of my systems, I wait for 20 minutes for linux-headers to finish every time (zfs.ko compiling)
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3086[19:59:21] <mktt> ah right, i just noticed it moved onto unpacking the next header package
3087[19:59:43] <mktt> maybe i'm just impatient ;)
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3092[20:02:02] <jelly> hexnewbie: but that's not at unpacking stage, that's way down after setting up
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3096[20:02:33] <jelly> mktt: maybe your ssd is just slow
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3102[20:03:50] <mktt> im not using an SSD
3103[20:03:58] <mktt> im using 6 HDD's in RAID5
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3108[20:05:25] <_abc_> Okay that was hairy.
3109[20:05:50] <_abc_> jelly: how do I PERMANENTLY pin iceweasel now that I installed it manually? I set 'h' in aptitude. Anything else?
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3111[20:05:57] <_abc_> Other than disabling auto updates,
3112[20:06:08] <jelly> !hold
3113[20:06:08] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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3115[20:06:13] <greycat> I don't see why you think there's any updates of it in wheezy.
3116[20:06:38] <greycat> wheezy isn't even supported as a regular release now; it's just got LTS security volunteer support.
3117[20:07:17] <jelly> unlike the debian security team volunteer support.
3118[20:07:18] <tharkun> !wheezy
3119[20:07:18] <dpkg> Wheezy is the current <oldstable> release, Debian 7, released on 2013-05-04: replaced-url
3120[20:07:24] <hexnewbie> greycat: wheezy even got firefox-esr before jessie did
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3122[20:07:54] <leba2> Ouch, I thought debian8 installed by default as lvm.
3123[20:08:16] <greycat> Hmm. Why is judd showing TWO DIFFERENT versions of iceweasel both with the label "wheezy-security"?
3124[20:08:16] <jelly> greycat: in fact, LTS people have a budget and get paid for some of their work.
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3126[20:09:06] <greycat> It's really confusing when you read "wheezy-security: 38.8.0esr-1~deb7u1" and assume user error...
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3132[20:11:37] <mktt> turns out i am impatient
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3137[20:13:54] <_abc_> jelly: dpkg says 'iceweasel_38.8.0esr-1~deb7u1_amd64' is an illegal package name, because of '~' when requesting hold
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3139[20:14:14] <greycat> well, that's true -- it's not a package name
3140[20:14:19] <_abc_> ugg
3141[20:14:21] <greycat> the package name is "iceweasel"
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3143[20:14:28] <jelly> _abc_: the package name is just icewe... eh
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3147[20:14:55] <_abc_> okay. That worked. Fingers crossed.
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3149[20:15:03] <TomTomTosch> you specify the version with =<version> after the package name.
3150[20:15:07] <jelly> you're telling dpkg "whatever's present of this package name, don't touch it any more"
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3152[20:15:13] <greycat> Still don't know why judd shows two different versions, but I'm betting it's the same reason "apt-cache show iceaweasel" on a wheezy box is showing the same two versions.
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3154[20:15:24] <_abc_> Although that is just a placeholder name from what I read
3155[20:15:39] <jelly> greycat: because there really are two different versions in the security repo
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3157[20:15:45] <_abc_> TomTomTosch: So I can pin the version too?
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3159[20:15:59] <TomTomTosch> oh, nvm what i said. i missed the part about hold.
3160[20:16:00] <fennesz> Hello ! I am trying to understand file descriptors . I can understand the concept of stdin stdout stderr , but don't really understand the "file" descriptor part. Why file?
3161[20:16:20] <varaindemian> is there a jwm edition of debian?
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3163[20:16:50] <jelly> greycat: lts stuff for wheezy is uploaded to security.d.o unlike squeeze lts. Probably a mess-up from the hand over.
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3166[20:17:32] <_abc_> Looks like it's sorted now. Sigh.
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3168[20:17:37] <TomTomTosch> apt-cache policy iceweasel shows two versions on jessie too.
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3177[20:19:58] <leba2> By any chance, do you know if a mit kerberos client can interact with a heimdal kerberos server or kdc with no problems?
3178[20:21:24] <mtn> varaindemian: debian does not come in editions. you can install whatever de or apps you want to
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3180[20:21:49] <_abc_> This firefox 42 killing iceweasel 38 is due to the forced switch to ff
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3182[20:22:18] <greycat> Wonder if it's worth trying to find out who to report a wishlist bug against judd to.
3183[20:22:18] <_abc_> Forced switches for windows users I can understand. For linux, NEVER.
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3188[20:23:27] <_abc_> Seriously, I was in the middle of getting some packages and building from source, the stupid browser updated on me, removed all my add ons, landed me on the usual adware crap sites and then crashed since it uses some visual features which crash here. Images mirrored 1000 times filled the screen
3189[20:23:37] <_abc_> Spent 2 hours reverting out of it.
3190[20:23:51] <_abc_> Thanks for the help, it looks stable now, getting on with my work.
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3196[20:25:54] <_abc_> replaced-url
3197[20:25:59] <_abc_> After that, you will.
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3209[20:31:39] <jelly> !debian-offtopic
3210[20:31:46] <jelly> !offtopic
3211[20:31:47] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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3215[20:32:40] <jhutchins> fennesz_: Everything's a file in unix.
3216[20:33:25] <diego__> hello, I would like to ask where I can find debugging symbols for wine dlls in debian jessie-backports, I am looking for something like that (from debian wheezy): replaced-url
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3218[20:33:35] <jhutchins> greycat: I would ask dondelelcaro about judd, he'd probaqbly know (if it's not him). What are you looking for?
3219[20:34:01] <jelly> jhutchins: no, judd's themill's baby.
3220[20:34:05] <greycat> Wishlist: "if a given release has multiple versions, only show the higher one, not both"
3221[20:34:06] <fennesz_> jhutchins, can you please give me some examples . I can't understand that statement : everything is a file.
3222[20:34:29] <jelly> greycat: I think it's nice the thing exposes crap in a repo.
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3225[20:35:22] <jhutchins> fennesz_: Well, /dev/sda - appears to be a file, can be treated like a file in some ways, is actually (the software handle for) your hard disk.
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3228[20:35:34] <greycat> jelly: hmm, well... maybe put an (O) next to the older one, then? Or something visual to indicate that I shouldn't STOP READING RIGHT NOW because there is another wheezy-security a couple lines later.
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3230[20:36:52] <jhutchins> fennesz_: replaced-url
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3233[20:37:49] <fennesz_> jhutchins, but is there a way I can open /dev/sda and view its contents for example? Are these files created dynamically on every boot
3234[20:37:51] <jhutchins> greycat: Maybe it could use color.
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3236[20:38:10] <greycat> jhutchins: channel blocks color. It uses bold in /msg which is really helpful....
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3238[20:38:31] <TomTomTosch> or a sort by release
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3240[20:38:35] <greycat> fennesz_: You can cat /dev/sda (BUT DON'T REALLY DO THAT)
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3244[20:39:06] <greycat> fennesz_: it would show you all of the disk's contents, byte by byte. In an unending torrent of raw rubbish causing your terminal to go haywire.
3245[20:39:11] <jhutchins> fennesz_: To view it's contents you have to mount the filesystem on it, or use a partition editor to see the partitions. You also have to mount an iso file in order to treat it like a disk.
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3247[20:39:27] <asir> it seems that selinux default (targeted) policy isn't available right out-of-the-box on Jessie, right? is there a technical reason for that, or moving to another security model?
3248[20:39:32] <greycat> To *MAKE SENSE* of the content, instead of just seeing it, requires software.
3249[20:39:35] <jhutchins> fennesz_: On the other hand, you can write a filesystem image to a storage device with cp or dd.
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3251[20:40:27] <fennesz_> greycat, so these "files" are opened or accessed by specific software , like ?
3252[20:40:43] <greycat> fennesz_: like parted, like fstab, like lsblk, like mount, ...
3253[20:40:51] <fennesz_> greycat, ah ok
3254[20:40:52] <sbstn> asir: I think the default policy got release blocking bugs for jessie and got removed before release
3255[20:40:57] <greycat> err, fstab isn't a piece of software
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3257[20:41:06] <fennesz_> please forgive my ignorance I am trying to learn
3258[20:41:19] <jhutchins> fennesz_: A raw database file wouldn't make much sense in a text editor, but interpreted by the database software it makes sense.
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3260[20:41:32] <greycat> I was thinking of fdisk
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3263[20:42:08] <jhutchins> asir: selinux pretty much needs the admin to set it up and tune it for it to work.
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3265[20:42:29] <sbstn> you could check out replaced-url
3266[20:42:42] <jhutchins> asir: Some distros ship it with a template that mostly works, but any customization of the system breaks it.
3267[20:42:49] <fennesz_> So by default every program comes with the 3 file descriptors . Is there any illustration I can check . Wikipedia does not help much at this point
3268[20:43:11] <greycat> You want a picture of a circle with one line attached to the left side and two lines attached to the right?
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3270[20:43:15] <greycat> You can draw that.
3271[20:43:56] <jhutchins> fennesz_: /dev/dsp = the digital signal processor of your audio chipset.
3272[20:44:13] <asir> jhutchins: it not sounds good, i'll have to implement my own module soon for an application, so you mean that i'll run in throuble
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3274[20:44:34] <jhutchins> fennesz_: /dev/ttyS1 = the serial port. You can read data from that just like from a file.
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3276[20:45:08] <jhutchins> asir: You will have to manually update the system to work with your module.
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3278[20:45:28] <jhutchins> asir: I _don't_ know details, I studied how to do it but we abandoned the project.
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3280[20:45:32] <fennesz_> jhutchins, ok I understand where you going with that.
3281[20:45:57] <sbstn> asir: you could check you Russell Coker's SELinux repository for the default policy for debian, but in any case you still need to make your own module for your app
3282[20:46:26] <jhutchins> fennesz_: You can, in some cases, treat network devices as files that can be read from and written to. You can cat data TO the serial port.
3283[20:46:46] <asir> sbstn: i'll check this out, thanks
3284[20:47:05] <sbstn> asir: if you can use apparmor instead of seliux, the apparmor packages in debian work and myself I find it more convinient to configure
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3287[20:48:33] <fennesz_> jhutchins, so devices are files too . What about the descriptors? What do they describe ? Hope my english is not that bad :)
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3290[20:49:26] <jhutchins> fennesz_: File descriptors give you attributes that you can use to access things like data streams. It makes a LOT more sense if you're writing code.
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3294[20:49:59] <greycat> A file descriptor is an index that a program uses to refer to an open file.
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3298[20:50:35] <greycat> The kernel does all the real work, either sending the bytes out the serial port, or out the USB port, or out the SATA controller....
3299[20:50:38] <fennesz_> greycat, like a PID for a program ?
3300[20:50:52] <greycat> A program only has one PID, but it can have lots of FDs.
3301[20:51:09] <deego> In my apt-show-versions, I have packages such as p:i386 (from an in-place migration to 64 bit years ago). How do I move it to the amd64 version? apt-get install p:amd64 simply says: already uptodate
3302[20:51:34] <greycat> "in-place migrations" are not supported. Good luck.
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3304[20:51:45] <deego> I know. So, don't support me. I'm asking others for hints.
3305[20:51:54] <mtn> heh
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3307[20:52:13] <deego> jeez, why do people speak if they have nothing to contribute?
3308[20:52:19] <greycat> What happened when you REMOVED the package that you no longer want?
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3310[20:52:29] <deego> greycat: go talk to someone else
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3312[20:52:35] <greycat> *plonk*
3313[20:52:35] <mtn> nice
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3315[20:52:38] <Neo_> hi everyone, I've got abnormaly high memory usage on a relatively idle server. I'm not sure if this is a recent event
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3317[20:52:54] <greycat> !free ram
3318[20:52:54] <dpkg> Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
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3323[20:53:33] <jhutchins> Neo: Abnormal compared to what?
3324[20:53:45] <greycat> And how did you measure this?
3325[20:53:58] <fennesz_> jhutchins, will check with python
3326[20:54:20] <diego__> hello, I would like to ask where I can find debugging symbols for wine dlls in debian jessie-backports, I am looking for something like that (from debian wheezy): replaced-url
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3328[20:55:01] <jhutchins> fennesz_: Not sure if something like ruby or python would get low-level enough to use file descriptors, C would.
3329[20:55:09] <sbstn> deego: replaced-url
3330[20:55:10] <Neo> ah, I must have had a different configuration at one point with less agressive caching
3331[20:55:36] <fennesz_> jhutchins, replaced-url
3332[20:55:45] <deego> sbstn: thanks
3333[20:56:24] <jhutchins> diego__: replaced-url
3334[20:56:25] <deego> sbstn: ah, I see that for each such p, apt-show-versions says I have both p:amd64 and p:i386 installed
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3338[20:57:48] <diego__> jhutchins: my question involves packaging, I should ask here (I've already asked in wine channels and this is distribution dependent, so I have to ask here)
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3340[20:58:03] <deego> Looks like I simply need to purge the :i386 versions. Thanks again
3341[20:59:18] <sbstn> deego: it might bring up some issues, I do not know eg. what exactly happens to some configuration files which might be provided by more than 1 package and will purging also affect them
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3346[21:00:06] <plasm0duck> f
3347[21:00:10] <deego> sbstn: ah
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3349[21:00:21] <_abc_> Please suggest where I can get gtkextra-2.0 or -3.0 for wheezy. aptitude does not find it anyway
3350[21:00:24] <_abc_> *anywhere
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3354[21:01:00] <fennesz_> guys do you agree with the accepted answer on that post : replaced-url
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3356[21:01:20] <deego> sbstn: glad you mentioned that. maybe i should remove instead of purging?
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3359[21:02:03] <_abc_> So there is no trace of gtkextra in debian?
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3366[21:05:48] <sbstn> deego: at least be sure your backup plan is sufficient
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3368[21:06:18] <deego> sbstn: yes, thanks, it is. and this is a fun machine :)
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3371[21:06:34] <_abc_> So, anyone? gtkextra-2.0 or gtkextra-3.0 any way to get them on debian from .deb files?
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3380[21:07:38] <mutante> i just keep forgetting the command, but you can ask a bot in this channel to search for packages
3381[21:07:42] <deego> <_abc_> So there is no trace of gtkextra in debian? <<=== _abc_ I don't think there is, not in main
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3383[21:08:08] <unborn> ..
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3386[21:08:55] <mtn> _abc_: replaced-url
3387[21:08:58] <unborn> users not need to tell hello or hi? just do the troubleshoot for me? is this something new in this chan?
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3389[21:09:28] <module000> mutante: /msg dpkg help
3390[21:09:34] <mtn> unborn: if you need help, just ask your question
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3393[21:10:11] <unborn> mtn thanks I appreciate your reply - Ive asked something else.
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3403[21:12:31] <unborn> _abc_: whats wrong with gtkextra-2.0?
3404[21:12:59] <unborn> oh you cannot get them i see..
3405[21:13:07] <jmcnaught> unborn: i think it's fine to start your support question with a hello, but if everyone says hello on a separate line every time they join, it's a lot of extra noise that causes support questions to get missed. that's why we have #debian-offtopic for being social :)
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3407[21:13:30] <deego> sbstn: thanks again. I think it all worked out. I simply apt-get remove(d) *:i386. I was able to reboot, and then remove the foreign architecture as well.
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3412[21:14:58] <sbstn> deego: system booting up is a good sign, I think :)
3413[21:15:05] <jhutchins> _abc_: The components might be part of a different package in Debian, apt-file might be able to find them for you.
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3415[21:15:22] <unborn> jmcnaught: I was referred to hello whoever or hello there.. my issue is this.. blah blah.. I am sorry if I feel a bit moronic.. perhaps its just me.. you know that hello or hi, would show some respect and very small love to us - all people supporting anyone else.. not need to reply, I got your point..
3416[21:15:27] <_abc_> They are not in debian for some reason jhutchins
3417[21:15:30] * unborn mods jhutchins
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3420[21:15:39] <_abc_> Built it from source for wheezy, i.e. out of deb tree.
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3423[21:17:05] <screamindynomt> ok ni need some help with getting iceweasle/firefox to work as a tor browser
3424[21:17:06] <_abc_> 22:09 < mtn> _abc_:
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3426[21:17:30] <_abc_> replaced-url
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3428[21:17:40] <unborn> screamindynomt: hi, well its not that hard at all.. I guess you had tor installed already?
3429[21:18:07] <screamindynomt> yeah unborn
3430[21:18:26] <mtn> _abc_: you said get them in debian, nothing about only for wheezy. ask a better question next time.
3431[21:18:26] <jhutchins> _abc_:replaced-url
3432[21:18:46] <unborn> screamindynomt: so the issue for you is just make your iceweasle/ff work with it? I can help you on this.. it actually takes less then minute
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3437[21:19:54] <screamindynomt> i tried setting 127.0.0.1;5090and 5190 in the manual proxy settings but it diddnt seem to work
3438[21:19:54] <AirPlanes> dpkg is like apt-get ?
3439[21:19:56] <dpkg> AirPlanes: have you tried replaced-url
3440[21:20:22] <AirPlanes> wtf?
3441[21:20:32] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: Meet the channel bot.
3442[21:20:38] <AirPlanes> ok...
3443[21:20:41] <unborn> screamindynomt: perhaps you done something wrong, but never mind, lets do it.. open connection settings in your ff
3444[21:21:14] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: dpkg is the in-system package manager. apt* are tools that work with repositories to retrieve and install packages and dependencies.
3445[21:21:27] <AirPlanes> lol
3446[21:21:32] <unborn> in proxy settings > manual proxy configuration you select SOCKS host > localhost and port: 9050
3447[21:21:37] <AirPlanes> i asked in oftc and he said i wish i knew
3448[21:21:38] <AirPlanes> jhutchins,
3449[21:21:43] <AirPlanes> thanks jhutchins
3450[21:21:51] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: dpkg is like RPM, apt* are like yum or up2date
3451[21:22:06] <unborn> save it and then change it to proxy or no proxy in your connection tab.. it should work for you screamindynomt
3452[21:22:07] <AirPlanes> im like ubuntu user that has 0 knowledge in linux
3453[21:22:17] <AirPlanes> im watching conferences hope to understand something
3454[21:22:20] <AirPlanes> debconf im watching
3455[21:22:41] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: replaced-url
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3457[21:22:54] <AirPlanes> hmm i will look at it
3458[21:22:55] <unborn> AirPlanes: Ive been using ubuntu 4 years and switching to debian was like changing chewing gum..
3459[21:22:59] <AirPlanes> now im watching dpkg debconf
3460[21:23:14] <AirPlanes> unborn, so no difference?
3461[21:23:16] <AirPlanes> :(
3462[21:23:20] <unborn> AirPlanes: there is an app for this
3463[21:23:22] <unborn> in debian
3464[21:23:26] <AirPlanes> what app?
3465[21:23:29] <greycat> AirPlanes: dpkg is the low-level tool that actually installs and removes packages. apt, apt-get, aptitude are all higher level front-ends that tell dpkg what to do.
3466[21:23:31] <AirPlanes> I don't understand you
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3470[21:23:49] <unborn> AirPlanes: oh huge difference :) more stable, more stuff - debian is just better!
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3472[21:23:52] <AirPlanes> So both are necessary. thanks
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3475[21:24:09] <AirPlanes> if anyone is interesting im watching this now
3476[21:24:10] <AirPlanes> replaced-url
3477[21:24:18] <AirPlanes> before i watched gnuPG and i didn't understand anything
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3481[21:26:00] <unborn> AirPlanes: please get into your head one thing straight - ubuntu is like modified debian with some commercial shit on top of it.. you been told that last night - 3 times..
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3483[21:26:10] <screamindynomt> should it be socks v or v5?
3484[21:26:20] <unborn> so - ubuntu is not necessary at all
3485[21:26:23] <screamindynomt> v4 or v5*
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3487[21:26:43] <unborn> screamindynomt: v5 :)
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3489[21:26:58] <unborn> sorry I thought I said this already..
3490[21:27:03] <screamindynomt> thats where it was XD
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3492[21:27:09] <unborn> screamindynomt: yeah :)
3493[21:27:25] <unborn> glad it works for you screamindynomt.. not hard at all, you see
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3496[21:27:48] <screamindynomt> no i mean thats what it was set on XD
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3499[21:28:29] <unborn> screamindynomt: so switch your connection and start to use tor
3500[21:28:46] <unborn> xd - means smile in 20s?
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3502[21:29:28] <screamindynomt> remote dns on or off?
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3505[21:30:09] <unborn> screamindynomt: you can install some plugin to make it easier for you.. also if you not sure if your tor is running - you can always reboot.. but remember you have to tell ff to switch connection to tor connection if you want to use it.. there are plugins for it
3506[21:30:21] <unborn> to me you looks like you are ready for it
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3510[21:30:57] <unborn> screamindynomt: anything else have to be managed via tor.. be it dns etc...
3511[21:31:06] <unborn> otherwise it would not be tor
3512[21:31:08] <unborn> :)
3513[21:31:11] <redtec> hi folks i have a problem with dell e6400 and external monitor on vga dsub connector
3514[21:31:33] <unborn> redtec: hi, i am e5440
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3517[21:31:45] <redtec> i see
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3519[21:31:52] <unborn> redtec: did you try fn+f8 couple of thimes?
3520[21:31:55] <redtec> is it problematic?
3521[21:31:56] <unborn> *times
3522[21:32:09] <unborn> nope.. it works, but you need to press those couple of times
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3524[21:32:13] <redtec> should it adjust automatically?
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3526[21:32:27] <redtec> because it is not dvi or hmdi
3527[21:32:29] <unborn> be it on docking or hdmi.. sound just works too
3528[21:32:37] <unborn> yeah
3529[21:32:40] <unborn> it does
3530[21:32:50] <redtec> i attached it direcotly over vga cable
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3532[21:32:56] <screamindynomt> yeah im on rasbian jessie, i just switched from wheezy and on wheezy i could route chromium through tor to access the deepweb, but it seems chromium dosnt work on jessie, so how exactly do i add a plugin to ff via apt-get?
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3536[21:33:16] <redtec> lol at the moment mom is watching on the small screen
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3538[21:33:24] <redtec> will try again during a break
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3540[21:33:31] <unborn> redtec: I did not had any issues on docking station or htmi.. did not checked vga.. but hdmi with sounds works - its awesome
3541[21:33:32] <AirPlanes> unborn, yeah ubuntu is based on debian
3542[21:33:58] <redtec> yeah but vga can be a problem i have heard
3543[21:34:02] <unborn> AirPlanes: yeah but its not debian. thats why I switch to be pure.. debian is just - my life :)
3544[21:34:26] <unborn> redtec: - try it.. hearing and seeing is different ;)
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3547[21:34:48] <redtec> i will check later
3548[21:35:00] <unborn> redtec: just confirm - vga works on me, so it should work on yours too
3549[21:35:10] <unborn> I mean I can just confirm
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3551[21:35:55] <screamindynomt> yeah im on rasbian jessie, i just switched from wheezy and on wheezy i could route chromium through tor to access the deepweb, but it seems chromium dosnt work on jessie, so how exactly do i add a plugin to ff via apt-get??
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3554[21:36:35] <greycat> Why do all the raspbian people keep coming here?
3555[21:36:39] <unborn> redtec: just do couple of times fn+f8 and wait.. it does not switch instantly.. like one second.. if you via hdmi sound will not work until you went to sound settings and select output via hdmi
3556[21:36:48] <unborn> then it all works as you need it
3557[21:37:22] <unborn> greycat: perhaps there is no chan for them or perhaps they do not know.. or perhaps they been told to do so..
3558[21:37:30] <screamindynomt> because raspbian is dead and it is just a lighter version of debian so you guys can help
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3560[21:37:35] <greycat> 15:37 #raspbian 358 Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: [...]
3561[21:37:37] <greycat> not even hard to find
3562[21:37:53] <redtec> i will try it in the soccer break and let you know
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3564[21:38:13] <unborn> screamindynomt: ah you are on pi? fuck knows then.. sorry I thought you are on pure debian..
3565[21:38:25] <screamindynomt> i mean person has left in the last hour on raspbian
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3567[21:38:30] <unborn> on pi I only works with ssh.. nothing else I need
3568[21:38:40] <screamindynomt> lol unborn i wish but my main pc died recently
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3571[21:39:18] <unborn> screamindynomt: if you would be in UK I would donate you older laptop for free
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3574[21:39:45] <screamindynomt> lol i wish but i n the us :
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3577[21:40:23] <unborn> screamindynomt: if you pay postage and any tax for it, I dont mind
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3579[21:40:52] <unborn> have one unit spare.. it will be better then pi - pi are good but - they are just pi-s
3580[21:40:53] <screamindynomt> lol how much would that end up being?
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3582[21:41:23] <unborn> screamindynomt: really? you know there is google right?
3583[21:41:33] <unborn> london UK - to your city
3584[21:41:36] <unborn> simple
3585[21:42:00] <screamindynomt> well it depends on weight and size and where exactly in the uk you r
3586[21:42:12] <screamindynomt> brb
3587[21:42:12] <unborn> ..its dell laptop a bit older but debian gome runs on it swishi - whishi
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3593[21:43:48] <unborn> greycat: I feel you
3594[21:44:06] <unborn> as I said earlier.. you know how it is ;)
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3603[21:46:14] <gparent> hello fine people, I'm not very experienced with debian's packaging policies and am wondering if the 'iceweasel' package is meant to receive security updates once the transition to 'firefox' is done
3604[21:46:24] <gparent> this would be on debian 8.
3605[21:46:48] <greycat> That transition already happened. If you update, you get firefox-esr.
3606[21:47:04] <unborn> gparent: hi, it should happen asap as you update
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3610[21:47:39] <gparent> Okay, so someone who doesn't do that will cease to receive updates?
3611[21:47:39] <gparent> actually I think if I re-read your answer my question doesn't make much sense
3612[21:47:39] <gparent> I don't think there'd be another path
3613[21:47:39] <gparent> Alright, thank you.
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3617[21:48:16] <unborn> heh
3618[21:48:18] <unborn> meh
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3624[21:51:07] <T4ng10r> hi
3625[21:51:23] <T4ng10r> can you help me with mime for audio/x-wav
3626[21:51:32] <T4ng10r> can you help me with mime for audio/x-wav ?
3627[21:51:40] <screamindynomt> bak and ok not this friday i get my first paychckn at my new job would 20usd cover it ?
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3629[21:52:20] <T4ng10r> TeamViz run from console, widget with timer appears, but no ticking sound - ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wav this is what I see in console
3630[21:52:22] <unborn> screamindynomt: you waht?
3631[21:52:28] <unborn> *what
3632[21:52:43] <T4ng10r> gdzie xdg-mime query default audio/x-wav -> vlc.desktop
3633[21:52:44] <screamindynomt> i get my first paycheck at my new job
3634[21:52:52] <unborn> T4ng10r: install vlc and open those kind files with it..
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3636[21:53:18] <unborn> screamindynomt: ah I see.. delivery
3637[21:53:22] <T4ng10r> why there's no sound? I mean ticking.wav is present, VLC/Mplayer and so on - are installed and play wav correctly
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3639[21:53:35] <T4ng10r> but TeamViz still don't know how to play wav
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3643[21:55:02] <T4ng10r> how otherwise then through xdg-mime can I bind given MIME with given app?
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3645[21:55:32] <screamindynomt> i figured you could ship collect so i just pay whatever the end total is on my end
3646[21:56:01] <teraflops> T4ng10r: use paplay
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3648[21:56:16] <teraflops> or aplay
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3651[21:57:09] <T4ng10r> I don't have problem with which application to use
3652[21:57:26] <T4ng10r> I don't know how to correctly attach this app with audio/x-wav mime
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3654[21:57:39] <teraflops> well use paplay or aplay from console then
3655[21:57:45] <unborn> screamindynomt: its just postage really
3656[21:57:46] <T4ng10r> xdg-mime on user level 'succeded' but with sudo - failed
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3660[21:58:30] <T4ng10r> TeamViz by itself tries to run sound, but fails - i want to configure system so TeamViz would know how to play wav
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3671[22:03:12] <redtec> nope
3672[22:03:15] <redtec> does not work
3673[22:03:38] <redtec> who cares will put the windows hard disk back in that works
3674[22:03:45] <redtec> thanks anyways
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3683[22:05:17] <jhutchins> People who think Windows "just works" must not do much with it.
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3741[22:25:29] <diego_> hello, could somebody please help me understand what are the files in replaced-url
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3750[22:26:57] <teraflops> T4ng10r: create e.g cliplay.desktop replaced-url
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3758[22:29:11] <teraflops> T4ng10r: ah inside cliplay just replaced-url
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3761[22:30:18] <T4ng10r> I've used xfce4-mime-settings as user and root
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3766[22:30:58] <T4ng10r> in both cases - audio/x-wav existed and I attached it with aplay (xfce automaticaly created desktop entry file)
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3770[22:34:29] <teraflops> ah xfce
3771[22:34:50] <teraflops> and it worked?
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3774[22:35:32] <teraflops> xfce used to use exo
3775[22:35:38] <teraflops> so exo-open I guess
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3785[22:39:21] <T4ng10r> teraflops: it work when I trigger file ie. from thunar or other file manager
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3787[22:39:45] <T4ng10r> but TeamViz is stuborn and doesn't find hander
3788[22:40:51] <teraflops> T4ng10r: I dont know xfce (xfce uses exo), I just do xmonad and what I said above works using xdg-mime/xdg-open
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3791[22:42:02] <T4ng10r> files like ~/.config/mimeapps.list are present and configured like we discussed
3792[22:42:04] <tortib> how do I insatll a GTK theme?
3793[22:42:19] <T4ng10r> I don't know where else TeamViz is looking for mime handlers
3794[22:42:54] <T4ng10r> TeamViz uses some strange Titanium framework (replaced-url
3795[22:43:13] <teraflops> T4ng10r: are you sure the mime type is audio/x-wav?
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3799[22:43:42] <teraflops> T4ng10r: tried setting the same for audio/wav
3800[22:43:44] <T4ng10r> 20:40:06:989] [Ti.Host] [Information] Loaded module = tiprocess
3801[22:43:44] <T4ng10r> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wav
3802[22:43:55] <teraflops> audio/wav
3803[22:44:03] <T4ng10r> this is whay I see in logs/console when I run TeamViz from it
3804[22:44:10] <T4ng10r> so I assume it looks for this
3805[22:44:12] <T4ng10r> I'll try
3806[22:44:27] <teraflops> T4ng10r: ah
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3811[22:48:24] <jhutchins> T4ng10r: You can try right-clicking on a file of that format in your file manager, then choosing the app to handle it. THat should write it to the mime config.
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3813[22:49:02] <T4ng10r> [20:48:35:814] [Ti.Host] [Information] Loaded module = tiprocess
3814[22:49:02] <T4ng10r> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wav
3815[22:49:03] <T4ng10r> [20:48:41:973] [Ti.Media.Sound] [Error] Error while playing sound: A WAV decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.
3816[22:49:03] <T4ng10r> ** Message: console message: @0: [20:48:41:973] [Ti.Media.Sound] [Error] Error while playing sound: A WAV decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.
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3820[22:49:53] <T4ng10r> sorry I flood
3821[22:50:26] <T4ng10r> replaced-url
3822[22:50:46] <T4ng10r> this is what In whole when I run TeamViz
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3826[22:51:09] <teraflops> T4ng10r: i have no idea of that TeamViz thing, are you sure it relies on default applications
3827[22:51:16] <T4ng10r> Titanium may not have plugin - I don't knw which
3828[22:51:27] <teraflops> I mean looks like you need a plugin?
3829[22:51:49] <T4ng10r> unfortunately - I also don't know a thnig, but I like this app and want to make it work
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3832[22:52:53] <teraflops> T4ng10r: e.g if it uses gstreamer youll need the gst- stuff
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3839[22:54:32] <T4ng10r> thsi that puzzel me is that debian on KDE with TeamViz could play ticking sound
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3842[22:54:54] <teraflops> T4ng10r: no idea sorry
3843[22:55:01] <T4ng10r> and when I removed KDE to use i3 with small suport of xfce - its silent
3844[22:55:13] <T4ng10r> thank you for your help
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3846[22:55:34] <teraflops> T4ng10r: well when you remove kde you remove a lot of things too
3847[22:56:09] <teraflops> also removing kde sounds problematic
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3849[22:56:50] <T4ng10r> teraflops: lets say that I purge and reinstall whole OS and started with xfce as base to move to i3
3850[22:56:57] <teraflops> I dont know if problematic exists or I just invented it sorry
3851[22:57:09] <T4ng10r> as previously I face problems with partialy loaded/installed KDE
3852[22:58:13] <T4ng10r> i would like to see what kind of apps/packets/librariers this app requires
3853[22:58:23] <T4ng10r> ldd shows all loaded and present
3854[22:58:35] <T4ng10r> but how to identify plugins loaded at app runtime
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3857[22:59:29] <teraflops> ,v teamviz
3858[22:59:30] <judd> No package named 'teamviz' was found in amd64.
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3861[23:00:08] <T4ng10r> teamviz doesn't have official packet or installer
3862[23:00:16] <T4ng10r> i simply unpacked tar and it worked
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3866[23:01:20] <T4ng10r> puzzling - vlc-plugin-pulse : Depends: vlc-data (= 2.2.1-1~deb8u1) but 2.2.4-2 is to be installed
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3870[23:01:49] <teraflops> T4ng10r: well kde can use vlc backend
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3873[23:02:18] <teraflops> and you said it worked with kde? just guessing though
3874[23:02:30] <T4ng10r> i though about some vls plugins - like browser or pulse
3875[23:02:40] <T4ng10r> yes, iIRC
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3902[23:14:34] <vlt> Hello. We switched to Debian on the desktop recently but users complain about Icedove crashing several times a day, mainly when writing mails. When run from a terminal the last message is “Speicherzugriffsfehler” (which I’d translate to “memory access error”). Any idea how to solve this?
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3910[23:16:10] <jhutchins> !localised errors
3911[23:16:11] <dpkg> Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
3912[23:16:19] <jhutchins> vlt: Just for future convenience.
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3914[23:17:12] <jhutchins> vlt: I would assume you're running Jessie/8.5 and the default desktop (Gnome I think?)
3915[23:17:49] <jhutchins> kmail 3.5 is still my favorite email client.
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3918[23:18:43] <Guest1581> hi, where are php7 dbg symbols?
3919[23:19:16] <teraflops> not in debian jessie repos, that's for sure
3920[23:19:21] <vlt> jhutchins: Yes, Debian 8.5 but MATE desktop.
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3922[23:19:47] <markybob> Guest1581: where'd you get this php7?
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3925[23:20:13] <Guest1581> markybob: stretch/main
3926[23:20:44] <markybob> Guest1581: then ask them. read /topic. this is for stable only. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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3928[23:21:21] <jhutchins> vlt: THere are also claws and evolution.
3929[23:21:33] <Guest1581> markybob: ok thanks
3930[23:21:57] <markybob> you should always read /topic. it's not hard.
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3932[23:23:19] <jhutchins> ,v icedove
3933[23:23:20] <judd> Package: icedove on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.7.0-1~deb7u1; jessie: 38.8.0-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 1:45.1.0-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 1:45.1.0-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:45.1.0-1~deb8u1; sid: 1:45.1.0-1; stretch: 1:45.1.0-1; experimental: 1:45.2~b1-1
3934[23:23:56] <jhutchins> vlt: Thunderbird is back under development, they may be breaking things. I've never liked how it worked.
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3945[23:28:12] <vlt> hmm
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3963[23:33:50] <leba2> jelly: last doubt; does ext4 have more "builtin" fstab options so it's not necessary to specify acl nor xattr for it in /etc/fstab?
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3970[23:36:12] <jhutchins> leba2: I've never found that necessary with any ext filesystem except removables.
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3972[23:36:36] <jhutchins> leba2: Which are usually problems because they're NTFS or FAT.
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3984[23:41:28] <trysten> why does samba keep users and passwords seperate?
3985[23:41:43] <trysten> separate*
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3995[23:45:06] <trysten> that's not clear. why does it have a separate password system?
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4010[23:49:12] <jhutchins> trysten: As in seperate from the local users?
4011[23:49:29] <jhutchins> trysten: samba vs. linux users?
4012[23:49:31] <trysten> yes
4013[23:49:48] <jhutchins> Often it's serving a Windows userbase that has no shell access to the server.
4014[23:50:11] <trysten> so there aren't necessarily linux users to correspond?
4015[23:50:18] <jhutchins> trysten: Exactly.
4016[23:50:19] <trysten> (another poorly worded question, sorry)
4017[23:50:43] <trysten> thanks! that's really all i need to know. one last question, can i simply tell it to sync/link to the linux users?
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4019[23:50:53] <jhutchins> trysten: It's actually one of the advantages even in an all-linux environment, the user account on a desktop doesn't have to sync with the owner of the files on the server.
4020[23:51:11] <jhutchins> trysten: I believe you can, it's been a while since I set it up.
4021[23:51:31] <trysten> i will report back
4022[23:51:46] <jhutchins> trysten: You can also use winbind to authenticate to a windows server.
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