• 0[00:00:07] <SilverWhitefish> one torrent with all arch iso's?
• 1[00:00:11] <davidkart> « The default Debian document root is /var/replaced-url
• 2[00:00:46] <Battaglin> SilverWhitefish: yes
• 3[00:01:20] <Battaglin> all amd64 in one.. all i386 in one
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• 5[00:01:40] <CutMeOwnThroat> one torrent to rule them all?
• 6[00:02:00] <Battaglin> yes CutMeOwnThroat you got it :D
• 7[00:02:30] <Battaglin> one ping to rule them all :-)
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• 10[00:02:52] <CutMeOwnThroat> it may have been destroyed
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• 14[00:04:57] <Battaglin> I just thought 1 file to fetch all from ehre replaced-url
• 15[00:05:13] <SilverWhitefish> Battaglin, replaced-url
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• 19[00:05:38] <SilverWhitefish> Total 1.48TiB
• 20[00:05:59] <SilverWhitefish> seed the world man, seed the world
• 21[00:06:12] <jmcnaught> davidkart: which part?
• 22[00:06:23] <davidkart> the last one
• 23[00:06:36] <davidkart> « better security out of the box ».
• 24[00:06:46] <davidkart> is that true for older version or for this version ?
• 25[00:07:05] <Battaglin> SilverWhitefish: ofc I meant of the current release only...
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• 27[00:07:06] <Battaglin> :-)
• 28[00:07:12] <jmcnaught> davidkart: that it provides better security? it's not that clear to me either, but out of the box apache won't be serving anything else you have in /var/replaced-url
• 29[00:07:37] <jmcnaught> davidkart: this change happened for Jessie
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• 47[00:12:21] <AirPlanes> hi.
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• 58[00:18:54] <aedinius> AirPlanes: hi
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• 63[00:21:09] <wulllst> it seems thare has been an organisational name change concerning debian's kernerl packages since kernel version 4.3. it seem, before, you would have linux-image, linux-headers, linux-source... and now there's only linux-base. can anyone point me to an explanation? i want to install kernel 4.3 from jessie-backports, because it includes a later an greater verison of the driver for my usb sound card.
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• 65[00:22:12] <AirPlanes> debian is still in development right?
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• 68[00:23:20] <wulllst> AirPlanes: it seems so.
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• 72[00:24:19] <themill> AirPlanes: 4.6 is in jessie-backports, not 4.3
• 73[00:24:36] <CutMeOwnThroat> judd, kernels
• 74[00:24:38] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc4-686-pae (4.7~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.2-2); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.2-2); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.1-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1)
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• 76[00:24:52] <AirPlanes> a lawyer tell me which debian to install?
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• 79[00:25:13] <AirPlanes> sorry i couldn't laugh too much to read to download something :)
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• 83[00:27:02] <wulllst> themill, judd: is that kernel info meant to be for me? i suppose. i just found this on packages.debian.org: replaced-url
• 84[00:27:52] <themill> err yes
• 85[00:28:16] <themill> linux-base is not a kernel
• 86[00:28:22] * wulllst realizes just now that judd is a bot
• 87[00:28:45] * judd is not a bot
• 88[00:29:20] * CutMeOwnThroat thinks judd shouldn't deny being a bot
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• 93[00:30:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> pfft. take it up with the bot union... but no sulking!
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• 95[00:30:58] <wulllst> judd: i'm officially sorry.
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• 98[00:32:23] <davidkart> it has been more than 5 years since I touched a debian ^^
• 99[00:32:30] <wulllst> themill: i was just confused by not finding any linux-image packages above version 3.16 even in sid.
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• 109[00:38:08] <wulllst> ok, found everything now. don't know what the problem was and don't care. also, i checked out: replaced-url
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• 122[00:42:45] <AirPlanes> hi
• 123[00:42:51] <AirPlanes> why debian is not using xfce?
• 124[00:43:19] <brimonk> AirPlanes: Because Gnome aims to be universally acceptable.
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• 126[00:43:23] <brimonk> AirPlanes: Probably.
• 127[00:43:35] <AirPlanes> Proably?
• 128[00:43:37] <AirPlanes> Probably*?
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• 131[00:45:27] <AirPlanes> ???????????
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• 134[00:47:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> it is.
• 135[00:47:38] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, install xfce
• 136[00:47:38] <dpkg> To install <Xfce> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using Xfce CD-1): from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose "Xfce" (use space bar to toggle selections), then "Continue"; an Internet connection may be required to obtain these packages.
• 137[00:49:05] <aedinius> does debian use gnome as a default environment? i think the only non-minimal install i've done was cinnamon
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• 143[00:52:21] <SilverWhitefish> AirPlanes, you have the option to install xfce as well as kde with the installer
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• 146[00:54:04] <AirPlanes> Im trying debian in virtulmachine
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• 150[00:54:19] <AirPlanes> hope to not get disappointed like ubuntu
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• 158[00:58:01] <SilverWhitefish> AirPlanes, replaced-url
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• 161[00:58:33] <SilverWhitefish> AirPlanes, just curious but what didn't you like about Ubuntu?
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• 166[01:00:12] <AirPlanes> SilverWhitefish, it didn't work on virtual machine
• 167[01:00:21] <AirPlanes> terminal mouse...
• 168[01:00:23] <AirPlanes> that's it?
• 169[01:00:29] <AirPlanes> yes
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• 172[01:01:23] <SilverWhitefish> !gpm
• 173[01:01:23] <dpkg> gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the application itself interprets the mouse clicks. replaced-url
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• 178[01:04:21] <aedinius> AirPlanes: what didn't work?
• 179[01:04:36] <AirPlanes> it didn't boot
• 180[01:04:50] <AirPlanes> so do u want me to move to ubuntu?
• 181[01:05:20] <AirPlanes> i installed ubuntu and it didn't boot...
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• 184[01:05:56] <themill> That has little to do with xfce. Maybe it's worth addressing the actual problem.
• 185[01:06:01] <SilverWhitefish> AirPlanes, so now your trying to install debian
• 186[01:06:03] <SilverWhitefish> ?
• 187[01:06:19] <AirPlanes> Yep
• 188[01:06:29] <AirPlanes> themill, ah?
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• 190[01:06:37] <AirPlanes> SilverWhitefish, in virtual machine
• 191[01:06:53] <AirPlanes> also in ubuntu the terminal i mean hard to scroll
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• 194[01:07:45] <AirPlanes> All files in one partition?
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• 196[01:07:51] <AirPlanes> I mean should I select it?
• 197[01:08:14] <SilverWhitefish> AirPlanes, once you get a system that boots try 'apt-get install gpm' for mouse support in terminal (console)
• 198[01:08:25] <AirPlanes> so its same?
• 199[01:08:37] <AirPlanes> also what to do with partition thing damn like arch
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• 201[01:08:42] <SilverWhitefish> and sure one partition should simplify things
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• 204[01:09:16] <SilverWhitefish> do you rememeber what erros you recieved when you tried to boot ubuntu?
• 205[01:09:22] <SilverWhitefish> errors*
• 206[01:09:25] <AirPlanes> maybe uefi?
• 207[01:09:35] <AirPlanes> i might have the vdi/vdk file
• 208[01:10:07] <SilverWhitefish> ah thats probably because grub tried to install in the wrong place (MBR)
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• 211[01:10:38] <AirPlanes> i installed it in virtualbox
• 212[01:10:42] <AirPlanes> hmm?
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• 214[01:11:09] <AirPlanes> the ubuntu vdi/vdk is in my external hdd
• 215[01:11:12] <AirPlanes> is on
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• 217[01:11:22] <SilverWhitefish> lets just see what happens with Debian
• 218[01:11:40] <SilverWhitefish> i was just trying to prepare for when you get to the grub instalation part
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• 220[01:12:00] <AirPlanes> hmm k
• 221[01:12:21] <inthl> has anyone experience in using Dell PowerVault MD1200 or similar with non-dell PERC ? I've got the opportunity to get such a unit and I am asking myself whether a PERC is really necessary, or whether I can plug them into any external SAS controller interface. So basically powervaults with non-dell hardware hosts/servers
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• 223[01:13:55] <SilverWhitefish> Airplanes, ok sorry all the uefi crap still confuses me, but when it asks to install grub to mbr select yes
• 224[01:14:06] <SilverWhitefish> or manually install to /dev/sda
• 225[01:14:07] <AirPlanes> comeon man its on virtualbox
• 226[01:14:19] <AirPlanes> im not even on my host
• 227[01:14:22] <SilverWhitefish> like it said its confusing
• 228[01:14:28] <AirPlanes> its ok
• 229[01:14:32] <AirPlanes> move on ?
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• 231[01:14:39] <AirPlanes> thanks anyway
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• 233[01:15:06] <SilverWhitefish> im not 100% sure but being in a vm i dont think it actually installs to the real mbr
• 234[01:15:12] <SilverWhitefish> but im trying to find out
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• 238[01:18:06] <jmcnaught> if the VM's disk is a virtual disk backed by an image file, then the VM's MBR is on that disk image file, the VM would not be writing to a physical disk
• 239[01:18:19] <speedy_stevie> Hi. I am trying to install Debian Jessie from bootable CD over ubuntu. I started going through the installer and told it to resize current 900 Meg partition to 1/2 of size, so then i can create a second partition. Now i am sitting on the "Resizing partition..." screen for like 2 hours. Is it suppose to take that long?
• 240[01:18:41] <speedy_stevie> Can anyone suggest what to do at this point?
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• 243[01:19:36] <jmcnaught> speedy_stevie: i've never tried to resize a partition in the installer, but it might have more detailed information on tty4 (access it with Alt+F4, or Ctrl+Alt+F4 if using the graphical installer)
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• 250[01:23:29] <AirPlanes> hi
• 251[01:23:40] <AirPlanes> Should I choose Debian Desktop environent?
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• 253[01:23:53] <AirPlanes> *environment?
• 254[01:24:01] <AirPlanes> or xfce/GNOME
• 255[01:24:08] <jmcnaught> AirPlanes: it's up to you. It will install GNOME unless you select one of the options below it
• 256[01:24:20] <AirPlanes> debian DE is GNOME?
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• 260[01:25:03] <Neville> I am trying to calibrate monitors and would like to install a color profile under xfce & Dedian. Please point me in the right direction.
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• 262[01:25:12] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: That's the default, there are several others available.
• 263[01:25:31] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: thanks, i see some messages now. There are some messages from partman about "No matching physical volumes found. Reading all physica volumes. This make take a while. No volume groups found"
• 264[01:25:43] <Neville> this is the message from displayCal: colord: The profile has been imported. You may need to manually assign and activate under "Color" system setting.
• 265[01:25:57] <AirPlanes> I am asking because never tried one of these
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• 267[01:26:36] <jmcnaught> AirPlanes: GNOME fairly mature and has lots of "it just works", the others are okay too
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• 270[01:26:57] <AirPlanes> actually someone in gnome atm say his mouse HUGE
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• 272[01:27:38] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: I am not sure if those tell me something or not. There are also messages from kernel after that about sdb/sdc "unknown partition table". I do have 2 USB sticks connected
• 273[01:27:50] <Neville> In GNOME, you can use GNOME Color Manage
• 274[01:27:56] <AirPlanes> is it easier after choosing GNOME to change DE to try XFCE?
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• 277[01:28:11] <jmcnaught> speedy_stevie: the most recent messages would be at the bottom, do they indicate progress at all?
• 278[01:28:20] <AirPlanes> 13 left people and we finish
• 279[01:28:31] <jhutchins> AirPlanes: You can install any or all of the DEs together, your login manager should let you choose which one to load.
• 280[01:28:43] <AirPlanes> i mean
• 281[01:29:12] <AirPlanes> thanks
• 282[01:29:45] <SilverWhitefish> This is for everyone with a question right now: replaced-url
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• 284[01:30:14] <SilverWhitefish> read the famous manual
• 285[01:30:39] <SilverWhitefish> eh
• 286[01:30:45] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: oh wow!! You are not gonna believe it, but at the screen with all the messages i opened another tty then closed it, then came back and there was a message that partition was finished. Went back to graphical screen and its all GOOD NOW. The spirits are the in the air tonight!! :)
• 287[01:30:50] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: thanks for your help
• 288[01:31:01] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: i guess it just hung on something
• 289[01:31:25] <jmcnaught> speedy_stevie: it probably just takes a long time to move all the bits around
• 290[01:32:04] <SilverWhitefish> replaced-url
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• 292[01:32:19] <jhutchins> speedy_stevie: A terrabyte is a LOT of space.
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• 306[01:42:02] <cluelessperson> When you run a script ./script.py &
• 307[01:42:08] <cluelessperson> does it die after a certain amount of time?
• 308[01:42:48] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: one more quick question, in the partition list, how do i know which patition Debian installer will install into. It is based on the "Use as" field? On old partition is says "Use as: Do not use" and new one "Use as: Ext4 journaling file system"
• 309[01:43:13] <jmcnaught> speedy_stevie: use as, and also the mount point
• 310[01:44:28] <speedy_stevie> jmcnaught: got it. thanks you
• 311[01:45:36] <SilverWhitefish> cluelessperson, replaced-url
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• 314[01:46:14] <SilverWhitefish> those results are verbatum so its the first link the pops up
• 315[01:46:32] <SilverWhitefish> verbatim*
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• 317[01:48:32] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: is this some script that just keeps going? it will die if you exit the shell that started it, unless you use screen or nohup
• 318[01:48:37] <cluelessperson> SilverWhitefish I used the nohub & but it still ends after logging out eventually
• 319[01:49:18] <AirPlanes> upgrade failed ;_;
• 320[01:49:22] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: it's not simply the script reaching a condition that causes it to exit?
• 321[01:49:56] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, My application is a flask app run as a thread, fairly simple
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• 323[01:50:54] * SilverWhitefish sits next to jmcnaught and thinks surely this person read the manual
• 324[01:51:16] <cluelessperson> SilverWhitefish, ?
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• 328[01:52:17] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: does your flask application do any logging? why not run it with mod_wsgi or gunicorn or something like that?
• 329[01:52:51] <jmcnaught> AirPlanes: which upgrade failed? what way did it fail?
• 330[01:53:04] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, it's meant as a test. I start one thread that reloads an image variable from a device, and another thread that runs flask, spawning children for clients to read the image
• 331[01:53:04] <AirPlanes> well after selected DE
• 332[01:53:07] <AirPlanes> I selected all
• 333[01:53:11] <AirPlanes> im downloading it again
• 334[01:53:17] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I have it log to a file, and it ends eventually
• 335[01:53:21] <cluelessperson> no output
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• 338[01:54:26] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: instead of running it in the background and using nohup, maybe leaving it running in the foreground and run it with screen. maybe you'll get a nice stack trace or something
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• 343[01:55:14] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, "./HTTP_Server.py" > allout.txt 2>&1 &
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• 351[01:56:22] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: if it's in the foreground you can also get the return code with echo $? after it exits which might give a clue
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• 355[01:57:04] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I'm running it on a remote machine with an unstable network
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• 358[01:57:20] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, and that command I just pasted would capture errorout
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• 361[01:57:58] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: yes it would. i don't know how to get the exit code from a process that was running in the background though.
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• 365[01:59:35] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, replaced-url
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• 369[02:04:32] <AirPlanes> which display manger should i use?
• 370[02:04:34] <AirPlanes> manager*
• 371[02:04:59] <AirPlanes> gdm3/kdm/lightdm
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• 375[02:05:41] <AirPlanes> pls
• 376[02:06:31] <pi_> AirPlanes, any is good, you can even not use one at all.
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• 378[02:06:36] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: cool. not everyone can open hastebin links by the way since it needs javascript for some reason. i don't know flask and the other modules you're using well enough to help.. but i do think knowing the exit code when it fails would be helpful. maybe try a flask channel
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• 380[02:07:01] <AirPlanes> pi_, what do you mean?
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• 387[02:08:45] <pi_> That dm's choice not a big deal at all.
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• 389[02:09:23] <pi_> whathever you chose, it won't impact much, pick the one that do/looks like you prefer the most.
• 390[02:09:24] <AirPlanes> lightdm looks good
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• 394[02:09:48] <AirPlanes> is it going to be same in installing?
• 395[02:09:56] <AirPlanes> or is it appear because I installed many DE?
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• 399[02:10:28] <pi_> what "is it appear" ?
• 400[02:10:36] <AirPlanes> appear the select
• 401[02:10:41] <AirPlanes> like lightdm/kdm ...
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• 403[02:11:03] <pi_> where does it appear ?
• 404[02:11:14] <pi_> I don't know what you are talking about ^^'
• 405[02:11:26] <jmcnaught> AirPlanes: if you have only selected one desktop environment to install it would not ask you which display manager to use.
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• 407[02:11:54] <AirPlanes> after installing of Desktop envrionments! it asked me about which DE to use
• 408[02:12:04] <AirPlanes> I didn't see XFCE there or GNOME!
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• 411[02:12:07] <AirPlanes> ok?
• 412[02:12:19] <AirPlanes> i think they are login interface
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• 414[02:12:39] <jmcnaught> AirPlanes: yes, display managers are the graphical login screen.
• 415[02:12:40] <pi_> Ho. This might be new, it was never asked to me, and I installed a "from scratch" a week ago oO
• 416[02:12:54] <AirPlanes> do i need to download something to make it appear?
• 417[02:13:06] <pi_> no
• 418[02:13:12] <AirPlanes> so why it asked me about lightdm?
• 419[02:13:12] <pi_> You just need to have it enabled
• 420[02:13:19] <AirPlanes> i chose hmm first cd
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• 422[02:14:05] <pi_> ho man, I'm confused X_X
• 423[02:14:10] <AirPlanes> :((((((
• 424[02:14:17] <AirPlanes> its on installation
• 425[02:14:26] <AirPlanes> im still there
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• 431[02:15:30] <pi_> Well it's quite simple. You need one DM, any is good, to get a autologin usually. Installing one usually enables it, and you have nothing to do really
• 432[02:16:01] <pi_> later you might want to enable a autologin if you don't want to being asked login/password everytime
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• 434[02:16:40] <pi_> -enable +configure
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• 436[02:16:48] <AirPlanes> i just want debian for programming
• 437[02:16:58] <AirPlanes> maybe i will stay in virtual machine ..
• 438[02:17:00] <AirPlanes> it's complex
• 439[02:17:07] <pi_> No it's not x)
• 440[02:17:15] <AirPlanes> also takes a lot of time to fking download debian
• 441[02:17:35] <AirPlanes> maybe because i select all DE and network..
• 442[02:17:36] <AirPlanes> XD
• 443[02:17:38] <pi_> but if you don't want to do anything as sysadmin you should just have downloaded a full environment straight of ?
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• 446[02:18:10] <pi_> mhm.
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• 449[02:18:29] <pi_> well I don't get the "complicated part". You just have to get a DM, reboot, and za.
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• 452[02:20:03] <pi_> by the way I came here to ask : to get a little something warning me about available updates, is there a alternative to pk-update-icon ? Thanks.
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• 456[02:22:46] <AirPlanes> and za
• 457[02:23:07] <AirPlanes> haha
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• 459[02:23:51] <jmcnaught> pi_: you could subscribe to debian security announcements with RSS or email (replaced-url
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• 462[02:25:19] <pi_> any is super fine for a user like me that is okay with opening a console, or using a script that would open a console. For "the normal user" I fear it won't be okay :/
• 463[02:25:46] <AirPlanes> help? replaced-url
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• 465[02:26:31] <luxio> Why are 64-bit PCs referred to as "amd64"?
• 466[02:26:40] <luxio> Is there no intel64?
• 467[02:26:47] <AirPlanes> x86-64 (also known as x64, x86_64 and AMD64) is the 64-bit version of the x86 instruction set.
• 468[02:26:52] <dvs> !amd64
• 469[02:26:52] <dpkg> amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>.
• 470[02:27:03] <AirPlanes> replaced-url
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• 472[02:27:37] <dvs> luxio, amd is the company that actually extended the instructions to 64-bit. Intel was still pushing Itanium at the time.
• 473[02:27:58] <AirPlanes> its like copyright thing right?
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• 475[02:28:14] <dvs> more like a licensing agreement
• 476[02:28:18] <luxio> oh I see, thanks
• 477[02:28:19] <luxio> :)
• 478[02:28:22] <AirPlanes> between amd and intel?
• 479[02:28:30] <dvs> yup
• 480[02:28:37] <AirPlanes> thx
• 481[02:28:44] <pi_> AirPlanes, what is your question ?
• 482[02:28:52] <AirPlanes> what to select
• 483[02:29:00] <AirPlanes> <AirPlanes> help? replaced-url
• 484[02:29:03] <pi_> If that debian is alone, just install grub
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• 487[02:29:26] <AirPlanes> ok and
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• 489[02:29:27] <pi_> if there is another OS with it's own bootloader then...
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• 491[02:29:32] <AirPlanes> replaced-url
• 492[02:29:52] <AirPlanes> after there was checkbox
• 493[02:29:58] <pi_> yeah well, what's the question ? x)
• 494[02:30:02] <AirPlanes> what to do lol
• 495[02:30:05] <pi_> You are doubting ? x)
• 496[02:30:19] <AirPlanes> YES
• 497[02:30:21] <pi_> you know on which device you installed debian right ?
• 498[02:30:21] <AirPlanes> i have no idea
• 499[02:30:25] <AirPlanes> nope
• 500[02:30:31] <AirPlanes> its on virtualmachine
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• 502[02:30:48] <pi_> well you don't risk anything then, I'd go with /dev/sda x)
• 503[02:31:19] <pi_> there is no reason I see it would by anything else at this point
• 504[02:31:31] <AirPlanes> so what to do when im going to install on my machine
• 505[02:31:34] <AirPlanes> i would freak out!
• 506[02:31:46] <pi_> Man ! ^^'
• 507[02:31:52] <AirPlanes> what
• 508[02:31:58] <AirPlanes> people said look at that debian installer
• 509[02:32:02] <AirPlanes> there is nothing.......
• 510[02:32:36] <r3m> ,v python
• 511[02:32:38] <judd> Package: python on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze7; wheezy: 2.7.3-4+deb7u1; jessie: 2.7.9-1; stretch: 2.7.11-2; sid: 2.7.11-2
• 512[02:32:46] <AirPlanes> ,v apt
• 513[02:32:47] <judd> Package: apt on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.10.3+squeeze7; wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.3; sid: 1.2.14; stretch: 1.2.14; experimental: 1.3~exp3
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• 515[02:32:59] <AirPlanes> ,v pypy
• 516[02:33:00] <judd> Package: pypy on amd64 -- jessie: 2.4.0+dfsg-3; sid: 5.3.1+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.3.1+dfsg-1
• 517[02:33:09] <AirPlanes> ,v man
• 518[02:33:10] <judd> No package named 'man' was found in amd64.
• 519[02:33:14] <jmcnaught> you can also message the bot privately
• 520[02:33:17] <pi_> if you don't want to know anything about sysadmin, you should go to a prebuild system, or a ubuntu/mint that won't ask you any technical thing
• 521[02:33:34] <AirPlanes> what is sysadmin?
• 522[02:33:38] <AirPlanes> I don't really understand you
• 523[02:33:42] <pi_> it's managing a system
• 524[02:34:07] <AirPlanes> man
• 525[02:34:17] <pi_> packages, setup, bootloaders, dm, all what you seem to be confused with...
• 526[02:34:24] <AirPlanes> when it display it said wrong password but it was username ..
• 527[02:34:33] <AirPlanes> username was uppercase
• 528[02:34:51] <pi_> check your layout
• 529[02:34:53] <themill> You really need to stop using the word "it".
• 530[02:35:02] <AirPlanes> replace it on?
• 531[02:35:45] <AirPlanes> there is no kde..
• 532[02:35:49] <AirPlanes> debian started ^_^
• 533[02:35:56] <pi_> yay
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• 535[02:36:20] <AirPlanes> yay
• 536[02:36:21] <AirPlanes> 3.14
• 537[02:36:28] <pi_> please go to an install party or use a wikipedia page if you don't know what you are doing at all x)
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• 539[02:36:34] <AirPlanes> ok
• 540[02:36:38] <AirPlanes> X) (X
• 541[02:36:42] <AirPlanes> >
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• 567[02:48:26] <AirPlanes> why there is channel limit?
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• 569[02:50:03] <mutante> AirPlanes: to avoid join floods
• 570[02:50:09] <AirPlanes> ok
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• 600[03:06:57] <asterismo> hi
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• 603[03:07:06] <asterismo> can i decompile/edit apks in debian?
• 604[03:07:14] <asterismo> apk files
• 605[03:07:47] <zinx> i don't know if you can, but i can
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• 608[03:08:50] <asterismo> zinx: what software do you use? is it in debian repos?
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• 611[03:09:32] <zinx> i use the tools that come with the Android Open Source Project (not in debian), and another java based tool depending on what I'm doing (also not in debian)
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• 614[03:09:55] <asterismo> can this be done in debian?
• 615[03:10:00] <zinx> yes
• 616[03:10:11] <zinx> there's just no debian packages with the needed tools :P
• 617[03:10:17] <asterismo> is tere any software in the repos?
• 618[03:10:36] <asterismo> apt-get install apk-editor
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• 620[03:10:58] <zinx> oh, i'm wrong. some of them are in debian :O
• 621[03:11:17] <asterismo> something like apt-get install apk-editor?
• 622[03:11:35] <zinx> do apt-cache search apk
• 623[03:11:42] <zinx> pretty much everything is on-topic
• 624[03:11:57] <asterismo> aapt
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• 738[04:18:02] <brimonk> Hey, does anyone have any experience with setting up Debian based iPXE servers?
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• 845[05:33:55] <maddy> I am having trouble getting into my X system. The Xorg.0.log says XKB failed to compile keymap. (log: replaced-url
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• 866[05:49:36] <rozie> maddy: /dev/dm-0 9.1G 8.8G 0 100% /
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• 868[05:49:50] <rozie> clearly says there no free space on / indeed
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• 870[05:51:41] <rozie> apt-get clean should free some space (clean apt cache)
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• 873[05:58:07] <maddy> rozie: ill try that
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• 896[06:22:16] <maddy> rozie: that did the trick..thanks
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• 901[06:29:38] <SilverWhitefish> replaced-url
• 902[06:29:42] <rozie> np. but take a look what is using space
• 903[06:30:18] <maddy> alright
• 904[06:30:24] <rozie> /var/log may grow large, if some errors all logged all the time
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• 906[06:30:51] <rozie> du -s * | sort -n may be useful
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• 908[06:31:08] <maddy> ohhh...okay..thanks for the command
• 909[06:31:15] <maddy> i am thinking of re-sizing the parition
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• 911[06:31:48] <rozie> 10 GB is pretty much for /
• 912[06:32:02] <maddy> ohh..okay...
• 913[06:32:10] <rozie> I'd rather consider mounting /tmp as tmpfs
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• 918[06:33:02] <rozie> that won't help with free space, but usually is better
• 919[06:33:24] <rozie> (faster, if you have enough RAM)
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• 922[06:33:41] <maddy> okay...could look at that....i have decent ram (8 gigs)
• 923[06:34:28] <aedinius> oh hai maddy
• 924[06:34:44] <maddy> rozie: it could be the logs...i have an error in dmesg, relating to my gfx card...which i have given up on fixing
• 925[06:34:50] <maddy> aedinius: hi..
• 926[06:34:52] <aedinius> oh wait i mixed you up with someone with a similar nick IGNORE ME
• 927[06:35:00] <maddy> aedinius: ok :]
• 928[06:36:03] <aedinius> replaced-url
• 929[06:36:22] <rozie> maddy: du -hs /var/log ?
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• 932[06:37:03] <rozie> if it's below 500 MB, it's rather not logs
• 933[06:37:35] <SilverWhitefish> replaced-url
• 934[06:37:51] <maddy> rozie: 22M
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• 936[06:38:11] <rozie> logs are OK
• 937[06:38:24] <maddy> mm-hmm
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• 939[06:38:40] <rozie> somtimes there are errors which are logged every second in syslog or messages
• 940[06:38:49] <maddy> hmm, ok
• 941[06:38:53] <rozie> and in such case a lot of space can be used
• 942[06:39:19] <rozie> how much free space do you have now?
• 943[06:39:45] <rozie> wajig (which is apt/aptitude frontend) has pretty nice option to show sizes of installed packages
• 944[06:39:48] <rozie> wajig sizes
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• 946[06:40:04] <SilverWhitefish> replaced-url
• 947[06:41:12] <maddy> ok, i'll check that
• 948[06:41:39] <rozie> usualy kernels are big
• 949[06:41:54] <rozie> check if you have old, unused kernels installed
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• 973[06:57:12] <r3m> ,v ircu
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• 976[06:57:14] <judd> No package named 'ircu' was found in amd64.
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• 980[06:59:15] <maddy> rozie: no old kernels replaced-url
• 981[06:59:46] <maddy> rozie: i have about 970M free on / after clearing cache
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• 985[07:00:49] <SilverWhitefish> ,v harden-doc
• 986[07:00:50] <judd> Package: harden-doc on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.13.3; wheezy: 3.15.1; stretch: 3.18.1; sid: 3.18.1
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• 1005[07:04:42] <SilverWhitefish> eh trolls have infiltrated everything
• 1006[07:04:44] <rozie> maddy: you probably scanned your /home
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• 1126[07:06:24] <rozie> but 1GB free on 10 GB / on desktop with lot of big packages seems to be normal
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• 1154[07:07:27] <SilverWhitefish> sounds like you dedicated most of the hard drive space to windows
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• 1156[07:07:35] <SilverWhitefish> cheap skate
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• 1168[07:14:20] <aedinius> who runs windows these days
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• 1170[07:14:25] <aedinius> i have a vm, i guess
• 1171[07:14:32] <aedinius> i mean, i guess i do
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• 1173[07:15:13] <MisterGadfly> aedinius: 99% of people :P
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• 1175[07:15:54] * aedinius sighs
• 1176[07:15:54] <Anselmo> not quite 99% it seems
• 1177[07:16:02] <aedinius> recent report said 2% linux
• 1178[07:16:21] <Anselmo> and quite a few os-x too
• 1179[07:16:27] <aedinius> i bet windows is in the 90+%
• 1180[07:16:35] <aedinius> but 99% seems too high
• 1181[07:16:36] <Anselmo> my brother usues windows vista
• 1182[07:16:49] <aedinius> the laptop I'm on has a vista license
• 1183[07:17:03] <SilverWhitefish> yet 90 something percent of all the super computers in the world run linux. only like two or three that run windows server and one bsd
• 1184[07:17:23] <aedinius> don't you DARE knock my BSD
• 1185[07:17:35] <SilverWhitefish> love bsd :p
• 1186[07:17:37] <Anselmo> well, huge numbers of cellphones run linux
• 1187[07:17:46] <SilverWhitefish> but love Debian more
• 1188[07:17:55] <aedinius> I want BSD userland with Linux kernel
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• 1190[07:18:06] <aedinius> Everyone else seems to want the opposite
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• 1192[07:19:53] <Anselmo> I have not used BSD's enough to say.
• 1193[07:20:03] <SilverWhitefish> that too, dont forget mac's were forked from Unix so its technical some kind of boxed in morph of linux
• 1194[07:20:16] <SilverWhitefish> ya same here
• 1195[07:20:35] <SilverWhitefish> last time i tinkered with it was at least 7 years ago
• 1196[07:20:38] <aedinius> I loved OSX when I had a Mac
• 1197[07:20:49] <Anselmo> was on OpenBSD for a little while, but ended up leaving because of wireless issues
• 1198[07:21:11] <aedinius> heh. I ran openbsd on this laptop for a while, but left because of battery performance
• 1199[07:21:31] <aedinius> before that i had freebsd, but left because of usb/sleep issues
• 1200[07:21:40] <SilverWhitefish> i choose debian because of the community of awesome people
• 1201[07:22:05] <aedinius> yeah, that's one reason i run it
• 1202[07:22:54] <Anselmo> ooh,
• 1203[07:22:58] <aedinius> i run it on my desktop and one of my laptops. this laptop is currently running void-linux
• 1204[07:23:05] <Anselmo> on freebsd I had really big issues
• 1205[07:23:10] <maddy> rozie: oops..this is what i should've done? replaced-url
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• 1215[07:23:29] <aedinius> Anselmo: after two sleeps my keyboard would quick working
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• 1217[07:23:38] <Anselmo> hah
• 1218[07:23:38] <aedinius> sleeps happen often on a laptop you take places :)
• 1219[07:23:44] <Anselmo> yes
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• 1221[07:23:59] <Anselmo> I had my filesystem break apart over the course of a week or two
• 1222[07:24:09] <aedinius> openbsd was better there, but battery life dropped from 6hr to 3hr
• 1223[07:24:15] <Anselmo> hunh
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• 1225[07:24:35] <aedinius> it didn't support C3 sleep states or something
• 1226[07:24:58] <aedinius> Maybe in a release coming up
• 1227[07:25:44] <SilverWhitefish> slackware and gento are my second favorite distros
• 1228[07:25:46] <aedinius> freebsd user + linux kernel == my dream system
• 1229[07:25:50] <SilverWhitefish> +o
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• 1231[07:26:03] <aedinius> debian and void are mine right now
• 1232[07:27:24] <SilverWhitefish> aedinius, ubuntuBSD
• 1233[07:27:55] <aedinius> SilverWhitefish: nope
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• 1235[07:28:01] <aedinius> SilverWhitefish: backwards.
• 1236[07:28:04] <SilverWhitefish> close but opposites
• 1237[07:28:07] <SilverWhitefish> ya lol
• 1238[07:28:10] <aedinius> yeah
• 1239[07:28:27] <aedinius> void is pretty close
• 1240[07:29:21] <Anselmo> I need to try void again
• 1241[07:29:25] <SilverWhitefish> MirOS_BSD,
• 1242[07:29:31] <rozie> maddy: yes. you can remove kernel headers if you don't use them
• 1243[07:29:55] <rozie> but if it's developer laptop and you can afford it - grow / to ~20 GB
• 1244[07:30:05] <aedinius> SilverWhitefish: oh yes
• 1245[07:30:05] <maddy> ok
• 1246[07:30:10] <aedinius> SilverWhitefish: that's pretty close :)
• 1247[07:30:27] <maddy> thanks rozie
• 1248[07:31:03] <aedinius> SilverWhitefish: I think I'll be installing that in a VM pretty soon and giving a go
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• 1250[07:32:19] <George_Washingto> niggers
• 1251[07:33:13] <bazhang> George_Washingto, cut that out
• 1252[07:33:28] <MisterGadfly> Such a lovely community, right? :P
• 1253[07:33:31] <George_Washingto> baz boy sup
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• 1255[07:33:57] <SilverWhitefish> personally some dont actually contribute to the community
• 1256[07:34:06] <George_Washingto> guys. i have a confession
• 1257[07:34:14] <George_Washingto> im a islamophobe
• 1258[07:34:17] <George_Washingto> yes
• 1259[07:34:18] <George_Washingto> me
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• 1261[07:34:47] <Anselmo> erm. . ..
• 1262[07:35:11] <George_Washingto> rm -rf baz*.*
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• 1265[07:35:50] <SilverWhitefish> void seems very clean and im reading it was started to test the xbps package manager which seems very interestig
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• 1267[07:37:15] <MisterGadfly> @ops BigTits_Ivanka
• 1268[07:37:22] <BigTits_Ivanka> meh
• 1269[07:37:24] <BigTits_Ivanka> so weak
• 1270[07:37:25] <MisterGadfly> What's the ops command?
• 1271[07:37:35] <SilverWhitefish> im just wondering what immature people did before electricity...
• 1272[07:37:35] <BigTits_Ivanka> banning my big tits
• 1273[07:37:47] <MisterGadfly> @ops
• 1274[07:38:08] <SilverWhitefish> ur using a proxie and ur a jealous noob
• 1275[07:38:12] <SilverWhitefish> proxy*
• 1276[07:38:21] <BigTits_Ivanka> i have nice big tits
• 1277[07:38:22] <MisterGadfly> Someone call ops on this guy. I'm allergic to stupid.
• 1278[07:38:34] <SilverWhitefish> anyone can download tor browser and 50 other browsers that do the same thing
• 1279[07:38:38] <BigTits_Ivanka> people try to ban because jealous of my big tits
• 1280[07:38:42] <BigTits_Ivanka> so jelly
• 1281[07:39:19] <SilverWhitefish> ./ignore
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• 1283[07:40:01] <SilverWhitefish> are you confused ivanka
• 1284[07:40:11] <BigTits_Ivanka> so jelly
• 1285[07:40:18] <SilverWhitefish> darkness does no understand the light yes?
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• 1287[07:40:36] <BigTits_Ivanka> i'm really rich
• 1288[07:40:42] <SilverWhitefish> im really poor
• 1289[07:40:49] <polyzen> #debian-offtopic
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• 1291[07:41:23] <BigTits_Ivanka> my father like to incest me
• 1292[07:41:27] <BigTits_Ivanka> incest is wincest
• 1293[07:41:35] <BigTits_Ivanka> so put your sister to the test
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• 1296[07:42:01] <polyzen> do you have the skills to be number one?
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• 1299[07:42:22] <BigTits_Ivanka> i'm really rich
• 1300[07:42:28] <qmr> !ops
• 1301[07:42:28] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
• 1302[07:42:32] <qmr> !ops BigTits_Ivanka
• 1303[07:42:32] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: qmr complains about: BigTits_Ivanka
• 1304[07:42:45] <BigTits_Ivanka> so weak
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• 1306[07:42:59] <BigTits_Ivanka> i have BIG TITS
• 1307[07:43:13] <bazhang> !ops | BigTits_Ivanka
• 1308[07:43:13] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | BigTits_Ivanka
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• 1312[07:43:31] <BigTits_Ivanka> !ops I HAVE BIG TITS
• 1313[07:43:31] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bigtits_ivanka complains about: I HAVE BIG TITS
• 1314[07:43:36] <qmr> you're wasting everyone's time and disk space and you are double plus unfunny
• 1315[07:43:45] <BigTits_Ivanka> a
• 1316[07:43:46] <BigTits_Ivanka> b
• 1317[07:43:48] <BigTits_Ivanka> d
• 1318[07:43:48] <BigTits_Ivanka> s
• 1319[07:43:49] <BigTits_Ivanka> e
• 1320[07:43:50] <BigTits_Ivanka> f
• 1321[07:43:50] <BigTits_Ivanka> g
• 1322[07:43:51] *** BigTits_Ivanka was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
• 1323[07:44:09] <ryouma> too big for this channel, apparently
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• 1325[07:44:39] <polyzen> anyone know of tools to remove spam from my logs? :D
• 1326[07:45:33] <Anselmo> can't you just use sed?
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• 1328[07:47:15] <ryouma> ithm if somebody is banned tehn the lines get removed
• 1329[07:47:18] <SilverWhitefish> if anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know
• 1330[07:47:51] <SilverWhitefish> nothing is hidden that will not become evident
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• 1352[08:09:00] <up2late> is there a way to reset /etc.init.d/network to default
• 1353[08:09:07] <up2late> i hacked it up so bad i cant ssh into my box
• 1354[08:09:59] <dolly> sorry for you
• 1355[08:11:18] <up2late> sooo.. thats a reinstall thing?
• 1356[08:12:15] <dolly> I'm not sure! I don't know
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• 1366[08:16:24] <Ivanka_BigTits> GUYS
• 1367[08:16:27] <Ivanka_BigTits> I HAVE BIG TITS
• 1368[08:16:47] <Ivanka_BigTits> DOES THAT NOT SOUND COOL BITCHES!
• 1369[08:16:56] <Ivanka_BigTits> RESPEKT MY BIG TITTIES
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• 1371[08:17:16] <Ivanka_BigTits> bazhang bitch boy
• 1372[08:17:19] <Ivanka_BigTits> so weak
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• 1375[08:18:14] <Ivanka_BigTits> BITTITS.DEB MUST BE INSTALL IN ALL LINUX KERNELOK
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• 1379[08:19:34] <Ivanka_BigTits> jelly nigger
• 1380[08:19:38] <Ivanka_BigTits> y u no ban
• 1381[08:19:40] <Ivanka_BigTits> so weak
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• 1383[08:21:44] <rozie> !ops
• 1384[08:21:44] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
• 1385[08:22:05] <Ivanka_BigTits> !ops rozie is a nigger
• 1386[08:22:05] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ivanka_bigtits complains about: rozie is a nigger
• 1387[08:22:24] <cheapie> ...well, I was going to !ops too, but that works, I suppose.
• 1388[08:22:27] <Ivanka_BigTits> !ops you love nigger dick, don't you
• 1389[08:22:27] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ivanka_bigtits complains about: you love nigger dick, don't you
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• 1391[08:24:09] <rozie> monkey got a razor :-D
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• 1393[08:26:32] <fennesz_> Hello ! How can I use rsync with a network folder ?
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• 1401[08:33:57] <armin> hi. there seems to be some kind of new screen locking mechanism in place for xfce users right now (i'm running debian testing). it looks like the display managers log in screen when locked, and it reproducably hides my mouse pointer when locking/unlocking my screen, i tried on several different machines now and the problem occurs on all of them. the problem is solved when i simply disable that from the
• 1402[08:33:58] <armin> automatically started applications list in xfce and just use xscreensaver again.
• 1403[08:34:21] <armin> anyone a clue what that is named or what i could look after?
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• 1406[08:35:45] <bazhang_weak> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1407[08:35:46] <bazhang_weak> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1408[08:35:46] <bazhang_weak> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1409[08:35:47] <bazhang_weak> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
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• 1418[08:40:23] <bazhang_> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
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• 1420[08:40:24] <Guest35415> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1421[08:40:24] <Guest35415> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1422[08:40:25] <Guest35415> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
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• 1429[08:48:09] <bazhangg> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1430[08:48:09] <bazhangg> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1431[08:48:10] <bazhangg> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1432[08:48:11] <bazhangg> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
• 1433[08:48:11] <bazhangg> hi, I'm bazhang and I make hot love to my mother in shower every day. I also visit local gay bars to have sex with wild somalian niggers. All who interest in hot sex with me /msg bazhang. I'll be waiting ;)
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• 1435[08:49:02] <peterrooney> !ops bazhangg repeated spamfloods multiple IPs
• 1436[08:49:03] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: peterrooney complains about: bazhangg repeated spamfloods multiple IPs
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• 1447[08:52:52] <Cyndaquil> peterrooney: Their IP is K-Lined anyway, so no op action needed...
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• 1506[09:44:05] <fennesz_> Do I have to have rsync on remote server too ,so that I can copy files to it ?
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• 1508[09:44:25] <polyzen> aye
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• 1510[09:45:54] <battery> how can i install hexchat on debian?
• 1511[09:46:48] <polyzen> apt-get install hexchat?
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• 1513[09:47:01] <battery> polyzen: correct?
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• 1515[09:47:16] <polyzen> !next
• 1516[09:47:16] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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• 1519[09:48:26] <battery> what irc client is good on Debian?
• 1520[09:48:42] <nkuttler> battery: irssi
• 1521[09:49:01] <polyzen> weechat
• 1522[09:49:06] <s4ndm4n> battery: Any client that is good for you
• 1523[09:49:22] <AimHere> Last time I looked, emacs has two IRC clients
• 1524[09:49:29] <battery> how can i install irssi and weechat?
• 1525[09:49:45] <polyzen> o_o
• 1526[09:49:47] <s4ndm4n> battery: You get the source and compile
• 1527[09:49:55] <s4ndm4n> Just kidding though
• 1528[09:50:12] <s4ndm4n> battery: You use package maanger
• 1529[09:50:20] <battery> yes how?
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• 1531[09:50:45] <AimHere> battery, apt-get install irssi or apt-get install weechat. If you have a graphical package manager (like synaptic), you could browse all that debian has to offer in a relatively friendly GUI stylee
• 1532[09:50:50] <nkuttler> !tell battery about handbook
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• 1537[09:51:39] <battery> thanks AimHere and nkuttler
• 1538[09:52:03] <s4ndm4n> !tell battery about apt-get
• 1539[09:52:36] <s4ndm4n> battery: There's also "aptitude"
• 1540[09:52:50] <battery> apt-get and aptitude
• 1541[09:52:52] <battery> thanks
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• 1543[09:55:04] <digdilem> battery, if you're looking for a gui irc client, x-chat or hexchat are usable
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• 1545[09:56:02] <battery> but i can't do anything with terminal :-( lol
• 1546[09:56:25] <battery> weechat and irssi
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• 1549[09:59:08] <battery> digdilem: where i can find it?
• 1550[10:00:15] <digdilem> apt-get install hexchat
• 1551[10:00:46] <s4ndm4n> battery: Every Linux distribution has a collection of softwares called "packages" in a remote location called "repository"
• 1552[10:00:58] <battery> yeah
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• 1554[10:01:16] <s4ndm4n> When you issue "apt-get install <package>" it fetches the package from the repository and install for you
• 1555[10:01:40] <s4ndm4n> It also pulls other packages that are needed to run called "dependencies"
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• 1559[10:02:59] <battery> thanks
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• 1562[10:04:04] <s4ndm4n> He left before I had a chance to tell him about how GNU and Linux are different :(
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• 1590[10:22:37] <jatin30_> So I got this error replaced-url
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• 1597[10:26:29] <s4ndm4n> jatin30_: Run "pgrep searchd". If it reports a pid then process is running
• 1598[10:27:18] <jatin30_> it returned nothing
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• 1602[10:27:57] <jatin30_> no files are open in /var/lib/dpkg/lock as when I ran lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock it returned nothing
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• 1608[10:28:38] <jatin30_> what should I do to remove this error "dpkg status database is locked by another process"?
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• 1613[10:30:28] <Rephlexie> what does 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' return?
• 1614[10:31:20] <jatin30_> nothing
• 1615[10:31:39] <jatin30_> what does that mean like is it already configured?
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• 1618[10:32:41] <s4ndm4n> I think it's safe to remove lock file
• 1619[10:32:42] <Rephlexie> fixes broken and stalled pkgs, works for me after rm'ing /lock then rebooting
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• 1622[10:33:49] <jatin30> so should I run sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
• 1623[10:34:06] <s4ndm4n> jatin30: Was the package manager interrupted?
• 1624[10:34:22] <s4ndm4n> Were you running it before?
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• 1631[10:41:14] <jatin30_> s4ndm4n , I have not run it yet
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• 1634[10:42:40] <s4ndm4n> I guess it's safe to delete it then
• 1635[10:43:03] <s4ndm4n> But do check once if apt-get, apt, aptitude or dpkg is running
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• 1637[10:43:56] <jatin30_> its resolved
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• 1641[10:46:24] <jatin30> how do i list the packages in my kernel?
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• 1646[10:49:49] <armin> hi. there seems to be some kind of new screen locking mechanism in place for xfce users right now (i'm running debian testing). it looks like the display managers log in screen when locked, and it reproducably hides my mouse pointer when locking/unlocking my screen, i tried on several different machines now and the problem occurs on all of them. the problem is solved when i simply disable that from the
• 1647[10:49:50] <armin> automatically started applications list in xfce and just use xscreensaver again. does anyone have a clue what this is named or what i could look after? i would like to report a bug but have zero idea what this component could be named.
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• 1654[10:52:56] <jatin30> When I run "dpkg --list | grep linux-image" I cant find the xia one which I compiled and installed succesfully
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• 1667[11:01:42] <dionysus69> I know of the geometry option but its impossible to snap to side with it
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• 1695[11:19:15] <Cypris> I am in need of help getting wireless going. Drivers installed. I cant seem to find an all-in-one document saying what to do. wap uses WPA2. current error message is " /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed". any help would be appreciated.
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• 1697[11:21:02] <jelly> dpkg, tell armin about debian-next
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• 1700[11:25:20] <Cypris> woo. got it! pebkac error.
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• 1725[11:36:34] <streulma> I have a problem: can't debootstrap debian... Couldn't download dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages
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• 1771[12:01:06] <luxio> When I execute `head -c 10 /dev/urandom`, I only get 9 characters. I'm curious as to why it returns 9 and not 10
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• 1773[12:01:32] <luxio> I'm reading the head manpage, and the "c" flag is supposed to output the first `n` bytes of a file
• 1774[12:01:37] <luxio> so, I should be seeing 10 characters, right?
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• 1776[12:03:21] <luxio> Oh, it's not even consistent. Are there some characters that appear invisible in the terminal?
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• 1790[12:12:00] <AngeFede> ave to all / <3
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• 1798[12:17:15] <cybrNaut-> aptitude search ~dstencil ~nfont <= that is how I tried to search for a font package that contains a stencil font
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• 1800[12:17:22] <cybrNaut-> but there are 100s of results
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• 1802[12:17:42] <awer> how do you view the output of a jtr command previously ran? i just get the output of "no password hashes left to crack"
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• 1804[12:17:47] <cybrNaut-> what's wrong with that query? I though multiple patterns were automatically AND'd
• 1805[12:18:04] <awer> john --rules=NT --wordlist=lmcracked.txt --format=NT username | tee jtr.txt
• 1806[12:18:29] <awer> if i try to redriect the std output i just get the error message
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• 1808[12:18:58] <cybrNaut-> ?and(pattern1, pattern2) pattern1 pattern2Select any package that matches both pattern1 and pattern2.
• 1809[12:19:15] <cybrNaut-> the "and" is supposed to be optional
• 1810[12:20:03] <cybrNaut-> if I try an explicit "and", same problem: aptitude search ~dstencil and ~nfont
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• 1826[12:33:09] <Pinchiukas> Are there any graphical programs that are installed in the base Debian distro?
• 1827[12:36:46] <TomTomTosch> you can select 'debian desktop environment' and a DE of your choice during the installation.
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• 1829[12:37:42] <jelly> Pinchiukas: it wouldn't make sense to install any, since there's no environment to use them in the base system
• 1830[12:37:58] <woshty> cybrNaut-: aptitude search "?and(?description(stencil),?name(font))"
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• 1837[12:42:27] <Pinchiukas> jelly: well stuff gets pulled in as dependencies so I'm hoping there's a binary that has a GUI version as well.
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• 1839[12:43:14] <jelly> quite possible, what precisely are you looking for?
• 1840[12:45:11] <Pinchiukas> Anything. Just to try out X11 forwarding without having to install anything additional.
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• 1850[12:56:43] <cybrNaut-> woshty: thanks!
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• 1852[12:57:10] <cybrNaut-> apparently there is no package with a stencil font (or it's called something different)
• 1853[12:57:44] <cybrNaut-> so in the end I had to find and download a TTF font from the wild, and copy it to /usr/shar/fonts/truetype
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• 1855[12:59:53] <cybrNaut-> aptitude search '?or(~nfont, ~nttf-, ~notf-) ?or(~dstencil,~darmy,~dsplice)' <= that was my final query
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• 1857[13:01:13] <jelly> Pinchiukas: then install xauth on the remote side and try to run something, like xdpyinfo from x11-utils, or xeyes from x11-apps
• 1858[13:01:35] <jelly> you'll have to install _something_
• 1859[13:01:48] <jelly> (and xauth is required)
• 1860[13:01:53] <MuggedMelon> Um, I have this problem on testing where whenever I update my packages, it always return '0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.' There should be updates available as it has been returning this has been happing for a week as of now
• 1861[13:02:25] <jelly> !debian-next
• 1862[13:02:25] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 1863[13:02:27] <jelly> MuggedMelon: ^^
• 1864[13:02:53] <MuggedMelon> Oh! My apologies, sorry.
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• 1866[13:03:03] <jelly> you can prepare all the info in advance
• 1867[13:03:08] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
• 1868[13:03:08] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 1903[13:33:14] <a64> Hello
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• 1909[13:41:50] <a64> Hello guys, i wanna know why im getting (Get:1 replaced-url
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• 1915[13:46:02] <jelly> dpkg, tell a64 about basic apt troubleshooting
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• 1919[13:46:43] <jelly> a64: complete outputs, please
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• 1930[13:54:22] <a64> jelly im newbie in linux
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• 1942[14:01:24] <a64> fixed :D
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• 1986[14:21:15] <SilverWhitefish> replaced-url
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• 1998[14:24:50] <SilverWhitefish> cybrNaut-, Any TTF, OTF, or TTC (TrueType Collection) files can be manually installed on an ad hoc basis.
• 1999[14:24:51] <SilverWhitefish> GNOME way: opening a Nautilus window to fonts:// and dragging and dropping.
• 2000[14:24:51] <SilverWhitefish> Command line: copy a font file into the directory /usr/local/share/fonts (for all users) or ~/.fonts (for a specific user).
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• 2016[14:30:38] <cybrNaut-> SilverWhitefish: indeed that's what I came to realize. ad-hoc ways are not ideal, but whatever.. moving on.
• 2017[14:31:07] <cybrNaut-> SilverWhitefish: btw, the gnome way you mention does not work for me.. the "fonts://" scheme is not recognized
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• 2102[15:13:09] <nocomply> are there any live isos for testing?
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• 2104[15:14:21] <nocomply> not to test but for that branch
• 2105[15:14:31] <kepeken> replaced-url
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• 2112[15:16:22] <nocomply> I only see stable there
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• 2122[15:22:01] <RebelCoder> Hello. Anyone here running Steam with NVidia Optimus ?
• 2123[15:22:20] <SilverWhitefish> cybrNaut-, its probably because nuatilus doesnt have the right permissions and running in root isn't advisable (gksu {cough, cough})
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• 2125[15:23:04] <RebelCoder> I try to run Steam with "optirun steam" or "primusrun steam" it is not opening steam
• 2126[15:23:35] <SilverWhitefish> but ya i used to install a certain browser in /user/share
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• 2129[15:23:59] <prussian> binaries in /usr/share?
• 2130[15:24:02] <prussian> weird
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• 2132[15:24:29] <SilverWhitefish> ya and just link the binary to /usr/bin etc
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• 2136[15:25:58] <SilverWhitefish> only thing was needed to open browser as root to update. hardened /root/.blah to make sure it didnt connect to anything other than update servers such
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• 2140[15:26:15] <SilverWhitefish> now i installed it in /home/opt because im lazy these days
• 2141[15:27:07] <SilverWhitefish> but /user/local/share does seem like the correct place
• 2142[15:27:45] <SilverWhitefish> lol /usr* see, still a noob
• 2143[15:27:56] <SilverWhitefish> always a noob
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• 2145[15:28:04] <prussian> meh
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• 2169[15:40:40] <SilverWhitefish> ya the gnome way doesnt even work with root
• 2170[15:40:49] <SilverWhitefish> interesting
• 2171[15:41:03] <SilverWhitefish> i copied and pasted that info from manual
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• 2242[16:29:17] <Coolternet> hi guys ! i have a big issue with my iptables. when i restart linux debian 8.5, all rules is gone !
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• 2246[16:31:09] <L0aD1nG> Coolternet: thats normal if you dont make them permanent
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• 2249[16:31:31] <Coolternet> how can i do it ?
• 2250[16:31:35] <L0aD1nG> Coolternet: as far as i searched for this problem (which i had back in the days), I dont remember some solution
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• 2252[16:31:51] <L0aD1nG> Coolternet: what i did is to make a script of mine
• 2253[16:32:00] <L0aD1nG> and set the rules each time i open my system
• 2254[16:32:02] <GitCub> yeah i used to put the iptables-save command in rc.local
• 2255[16:32:06] <GitCub> if you do that
• 2256[16:32:10] <L0aD1nG> of course this is not the solution to what you ask
• 2257[16:32:10] <Coolternet> i use : invoke-rc.d iptables-persistent save
• 2258[16:32:15] <GitCub> the system automatically remembers the new rule
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• 2260[16:32:30] <GitCub> L0aD1nG, do this iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules
• 2261[16:32:44] <L0aD1nG> GitCub: I am fine with my script really
• 2262[16:32:51] <GitCub> wait sorry that was to Coolternet
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• 2264[16:32:56] <L0aD1nG> GitCub: either way i even use terminal to connect to the internet
• 2265[16:33:02] <Coolternet> ok
• 2266[16:33:03] <GitCub> ah ok
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• 2268[16:33:23] <L0aD1nG> so there is no problem for me to set the rules before i do that, as i said I have a script for this job ready to go already...
• 2269[16:33:34] <L0aD1nG> thanks for the info though.. is it tested that it works?
• 2270[16:33:40] <GitCub> Coolternet, so you go to your rc.local and then tyou put down "iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules"
• 2271[16:33:47] <GitCub> yeah L0aD1nG i use this method :)
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• 2273[16:33:56] <L0aD1nG> ohh thanks a lot
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• 2309[16:53:12] <davidkart> hi ppl. From now on I just used systemctl enable/start/stop for my daemon. Is it the correct method in debian ?
• 2310[16:53:50] <alad> since debian 8, yes
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• 2312[16:53:56] <davidkart> okay fine
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• 2315[16:56:07] <Coolternet> GitGud i have trying and always removed
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• 2317[16:57:21] <Coolternet> my rules is on /etc/iptables.rules
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• 2319[16:57:27] <Coolternet> but not loaded on iptables
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• 2325[17:00:49] <GitCub> Coolternet, yes then you edit /etc/rc.local and then in there you put "iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules" before the exit 0 line
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• 2327[17:01:08] <GitCub> that line indicates the computer to restore your iptables rules at startup
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• 2330[17:01:31] <GitCub> (without quotes btw)
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• 2335[17:02:07] <Coolternet> ok i try this option
• 2336[17:02:19] <Coolternet> im rebooting now
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• 2338[17:02:29] <GitCub> Coolternet, well its not an option. its an addon to the previous thing
• 2339[17:02:30] <GitCub> lol
• 2340[17:02:48] <Coolternet> it work
• 2341[17:02:57] <GitCub> :)
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• 2343[17:03:07] <Coolternet> i found it too : auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules post-down iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.downrules
• 2344[17:03:52] <GitCub> yeah if the restore command is in your rc.local then it should recall iptables rules at startup
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• 2346[17:04:27] <GitCub> Coolternet, now if you want to change existing rules all you gotta do is set the new rules then do "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules" to overwrite that file
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• 2348[17:04:32] <GitCub> because the rc.local command is still there :)
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• 2352[17:05:23] <Coolternet> okay thx !
• 2353[17:05:30] <Coolternet> i will add it on my script !
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• 2383[17:20:41] <Coolternet> Tanks for you help GitCub
• 2384[17:20:52] <GitCub> np Coolternet :)
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• 2387[17:22:24] <L0aD1nG> yea i learned from GitCub too, thanks for the share bro
• 2388[17:22:34] <GitCub> no worries mate
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• 2395[17:25:33] <Coolternet> i have add this solution to my main script of configuration VPS.
• 2396[17:25:41] <Coolternet> now it will be automaticly added lol
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• 2401[17:28:52] <google77> shold I install kde on testing just for fun?
• 2402[17:28:57] <google77> *should
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• 2404[17:29:03] <Flying_Squirrel> Hi all
• 2405[17:29:10] <google77> hi
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• 2407[17:29:15] <Coolternet> hi there !
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• 2410[17:30:09] <alad> google77: depends on your definition of "fun"
• 2411[17:30:58] <google77> my definition of fun is to do stuff with my pc without breaking it since it is my working system :P
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• 2413[17:31:11] <Flying_Squirrel> can someone indicate a link / keywords to a proper beginner's tutorial to install Debian packages that are quite stable but not in stable? (higher versions of pidgin-sipe and tmux for instance)
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• 2415[17:31:32] <google77> backports?
• 2416[17:31:35] <alad> google77: then don't do it
• 2417[17:31:39] <Flying_Squirrel> oh yes, that keyword I heard
• 2418[17:31:41] <Flying_Squirrel> backports
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• 2420[17:32:06] <Agiofws> #wine
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• 2423[17:32:19] <alad> Flying_Squirrel: replaced-url
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• 2425[17:32:25] <Agiofws> hell
• 2426[17:32:27] <Agiofws> hell
• 2427[17:32:30] <Flying_Squirrel> great start, thank you alad
• 2428[17:32:34] <Agiofws> hello
• 2429[17:32:34] <alad> np
• 2430[17:32:46] <Agiofws> my O key is failing
• 2431[17:32:48] <google77> alad fine, the last time I used kde5 on ubuntu it broke.
• 2432[17:32:57] <alad> ubuntu isn't alone on that regard
• 2433[17:32:59] <Agiofws> can anyone here help me with wine?
• 2434[17:33:04] <alad> also in arch, fedora, etc.
• 2435[17:33:18] <alad> google77: replaced-url
• 2436[17:33:33] <alad> Agiofws: just ask your question
• 2437[17:34:07] <Agiofws> winetricks can not install anything
• 2438[17:34:22] <google77> alad yeah I know kde is in an unstable state ATM. I still like to use their apps together with i3wm so that is why I was considering it.
• 2439[17:34:32] <alad> Agiofws: post some error messages replaced-url
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• 2443[17:35:32] <Agiofws> Note: command 'wine vcredist_x86.EXE' returned status 193. Aborting.
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• 2445[17:36:17] <Agiofws> alad, replaced-url
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• 2448[17:37:29] <alad> wine: Bad EXE format for Y:\vcrun2005\vcredist_x86.EXE.
• 2449[17:37:43] <alad> in other words you're trying to install a 32bit package in a 64 bit environment
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• 2452[17:38:18] <alad> Agiofws: try using a 32bit prefix like the error tells you to
• 2453[17:38:23] <Agiofws> what shoud i do ?
• 2454[17:38:33] <Agiofws> wine 32bit ? in synaptic?
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• 2456[17:39:06] <Agiofws> You are using a 64-bit WINEPREFIX. If you encounter problems, please retest in a clean 32-bit WINEPREFIX before reporting a bug. ?
• 2457[17:39:22] <alad> yes, try "wine" instead of "wine64"
• 2458[17:39:42] <Flying_Squirrel> I was going to do sudo /etc/apt/sources.list but I remembered that using sudo in this case isn't the wisest thing since it can mess with rights on files, I remember reading there's an alternative but I can't find the topic anymore. Would you have any idea what I'm talking about?
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• 2460[17:40:31] <towo`> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list would do nothing instead giving an error
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• 2463[17:42:06] <Flying_Squirrel> *sudo vim
• 2464[17:42:13] <Flying_Squirrel> my bad
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• 2479[17:49:30] <Guest31336> What would be the best way to install Debian so as to enjoy the latest KDE Plasma 5 Desk Top Environment?
• 2480[17:50:13] <Agiofws> alad, thats what i'me doing i'm using wine not wine64
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• 2483[17:51:01] <Zliba> using CUPS and a zebra printer.... I am using web sensing (labels with a slight tear off gap between each) and a LP 2844-Z zebra printer.... so far, it starts printing way off the left side, and it only prints on one of every about 5 pages.... I have configured CUPS for 2.25x1.25 labels, but it may still be treating it as 6"x4" labels
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• 2485[17:51:04] <skino> afternoon
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• 2489[17:53:34] <Tom__> d
• 2490[17:53:42] <skino> is there anyone about who can help me with Guest editions install for Debian... im using virtual box
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• 2501[17:59:15] <monsterco> on a debian server, what command can I run that would show me all the hard drives installed on the system? and also if they are in raid or not...
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• 2506[17:59:35] <Flying_Squirrel> *facepalm* there's no backport of a newer version of pidgin-sipe. Does anyone know an alternative to pidgin to use a Skype enterprise account?
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• 2513[18:03:11] <hanleym> I recently moved to debian, what would be the easiest / most stable way to update to a kernel >= 4.4?
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• 2515[18:03:25] <alad> hanleym: 4.5/4.6 are in bpo
• 2516[18:03:27] <towo`> hanleym, use backports
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• 2518[18:04:36] <AirPlanes> what is mis person?
• 2519[18:04:53] <AirPlanes> replaced-url
• 2520[18:05:06] <AirPlanes> 3:20
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• 2522[18:06:20] <Rust3dCor3> Hello. I cant mount, u mount and suspend without entering my password despite of the fact that my account is ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL. What should i do?
• 2523[18:06:40] <AirPlanes> what did you type?
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• 2526[18:06:53] <Rust3dCor3> alt+f4 suspend?
• 2527[18:07:18] <Rust3dCor3> a window is poping out every time i want to mount a usb or hdd by thunar
• 2528[18:07:24] <Rust3dCor3> also i cant suspend
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• 2531[18:08:11] <Rust3dCor3> i dont think that it is fault of xfce
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• 2537[18:09:28] <Rust3dCor3> and i have no idea what to do
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• 2539[18:10:03] <unborn> Rust3dCor3: yeah same here.. its pretty annoying
• 2540[18:10:20] <Rust3dCor3> it started like 1.5 week ago.
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• 2544[18:11:05] <Rust3dCor3> can it be from a system update?
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• 2546[18:11:17] <timothywcrane> Deb8 min install configuring network for static IP from ISP and Godaddy registered .com - now asking for name servers. Is this asking for my ISP dns or my hosting ns? Says I can have up to 3.
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• 2549[18:12:19] <timothywcrane> Or will i be editing later when I apache and postfix it? Blank hit enter continue w install
• 2550[18:13:07] <timothywcrane> Thanks in advance
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• 2554[18:14:22] <timothywcrane> Says is not Host Names. Just enter any dns set then.. like google dns even?
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• 2556[18:14:34] <themill> timothywcrane: normally the dns servers that are on the local network. You may well end up changing that later.
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• 2560[18:15:07] <unborn> timothywcrane: you create subdomian in your domain register star ns1.yourdomain.com and ns2.yourdomain.com and point them to that machine ip.. hostname should be host.yourdomain.com or srv.yourdomain.com or whatever else.. then you install bind and you will be able to use ns1 and ns2 as your own dns for all other domains.
• 2561[18:15:13] <timothywcrane> I will prob have to install bind then if I want itntruly centralized?
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• 2564[18:15:40] <skino> hi guys. anyone online who can help with FOG server install?
• 2565[18:15:41] <unborn> other or any**
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• 2569[18:16:08] <skino> ive used ubuntu in the past so im not "a complete numpty" but its been years i have had a flutter
• 2570[18:16:13] <themill> the nameservers you need for configuring the networking on your machine are not (necessarily) related to the nameservers you might need to serving your domain
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• 2573[18:16:43] <Rust3dCor3> unborn: Can you mount/umount by console with no password and having problems in graphical mode? I have.
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• 2575[18:17:03] <unborn> Rust3dCor3: not really.. it always asking for password
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• 2577[18:17:47] <themill> Rust3dCor3: which release of debian?
• 2578[18:17:56] <Rust3dCor3> unborn:Jessie
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• 2581[18:18:43] <Rust3dCor3> unborn: the only stuff that i made recently was disabling autostart of xfce. i manually type startx in tty1
• 2582[18:18:56] <Rust3dCor3> ofc with password for login
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• 2596[18:22:41] <relipse2> how do i set up my small debian box to use the wifi?
• 2597[18:24:05] <themill> Rust3dCor3: that will be your problem. In using startx, you no longer have the appropriate session set up to be able to do these things.
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• 2599[18:24:46] <Rust3dCor3> themill: You mean that i need to go to the standard login? Ok then :)
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• 2601[18:26:34] <unborn> themill: it asking me for root password when I do try to mount usb external disk too.. im on debian jessie but gnome..
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• 2607[18:27:41] <unborn> themill: but that was default from install.. I thought that it was like that for security reason or something but its annoying as it is second internal disk on my laptop..
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• 2609[18:28:45] <themill> a hard drive is treated differently to a removable device but you should still be able to make it trivially mountable
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• 2621[18:32:47] <unborn> themill: if I edit fstab.. it would work without password thats for sure but - would the hdd be able turn it self after 10 minutes off? its important to save energy on my laptop, you know ssd where is system does not eat that much energy and if I not use second hdd in system I would like to keep it off..
• 2622[18:33:11] <unborn> end of the day is no drama if I will have to put root pass every time, its just annoying..
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• 2626[18:33:42] <hanleym> So it looks like 4.6 installed but when I try to go to the btrfs-tools in backports I get: Warning: /sbin/fsck.btrfs doesn't exist, can't install to initramfs, ignoring.
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• 2628[18:33:59] <daftest> My Wheezy 7.11 login screen is in a different keyboard layoot than my default and doesn't show an option to change it. how can I change it?
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• 2634[18:37:23] <ilmaisin> hi, is it somehow possible to allow only one user to acept connections on say, tcp port 9000
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• 2678[18:59:21] <Zliba> ilmaisin, good question.
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• 2680[19:00:16] <Zliba> i've got an issue with a Zebra LP 2844-Z thermal label printer... It's calibrated, but it's not fully calibrated.... it starts printing off the left side, then only about half actually ends on the label
• 2681[19:01:20] <unborn> themill: its was actually trivial to resolve this.. I edited polkit and it works now
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• 2684[19:02:08] <unborn> Zliba: what you use for labels?
• 2685[19:02:13] <unborn> Zliba: glables?
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• 2688[19:03:12] <Zliba> unborn, umm... essentially stickers on a backing. 2.25x1.25.... I got it calibrated, finally, for the height, but it still seems to think I'm using 4" wide labels, even though I have cups configured for otherwise
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• 2690[19:03:27] <relipse2> i'm trying to get my debian server box connected throught the wireless but when i do ping google.com it says unknown host
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• 2692[19:03:54] <unborn> Zliba: what software you using to create and print stickers?
• 2693[19:04:24] <Zliba> unborn, GIMP, but it does the same with "lp"
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• 2697[19:05:12] <unborn> Zliba: that is just poor decision.. why dont you use glables? its made it for printing lables on various label printers..
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• 2699[19:05:26] <unborn> Zliba: you can create even own sized labels there..
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• 2703[19:05:56] <Zliba> unborn, i'll check into it
• 2704[19:05:59] <unborn> Zliba: and it just work as gimp. you dont need to calibrate your printer. you cannot simply change that
• 2705[19:06:08] <unborn> Zliba: you looking for glabels
• 2706[19:06:22] <unborn> use proper tool to do the job properly meh..
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• 2720[19:11:06] <unborn> Zliba: I did nto find zebra brand for printer but what you do is create your own size for labels you want to print, with option to be horizontal or vertical - that depends how it is coming out from your printer. then just do measurement of your label and put it as required on picture.. select corners, save. then you can create labels as need it with pictures text whatever you need.
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• 2724[19:12:48] <Zliba> unborn, in gimp, I can create the sizes... inches and DPI configured, then I can print that directly or export it as a PDF and print it with 'lp', but something is odd in that the paper is centered in the feed, but the printer starts on the left, where there is no paper
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• 2727[19:13:07] <Zliba> gonna get glabels in a minute though
• 2728[19:14:49] <unborn> Zliba: because gimp is not for printing labels..
• 2729[19:15:59] <unborn> gimp is image and graphics manipulation program right?
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• 2746[19:23:51] <joze> wrong
• 2747[19:24:02] <joze> is not what you said
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• 2756[19:26:51] <Zliba> unborn, yeah and glabels has the same issue. this is a printer config problem, not a graphics problem
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• 2762[19:28:48] <unborn> Zliba: did you created your own label size? that is strange.. it works with dell, brother and dymo.. you must print the sticker directly from glables.. not from pdf
• 2763[19:29:28] <Zliba> unborn, yeah I did. it's an issue with the printer. i'm going to see about putting it to default settings and see how it goes
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• 2769[19:31:30] <unborn> Zliba: yeah..on my dymo (its thermal) the sticker strip.. the sensors in printer manage this which I cannot set manually or anything so it should print it in correct size if you created your own label with correct size.. perhaps that reset would work..
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• 2771[19:32:29] <Zliba> unborn, got it. width had to be configured in the printer, rather than through cups
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• 2775[19:33:54] <unborn> Zliba: oh, I did not touch anything in system.. just used glabels. when printing normal pdfs on normal paper I have different printer for that
• 2776[19:34:12] <unborn> Zliba: so gimp printing works as well ?
• 2777[19:34:17] <Zliba> unborn, yeah
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• 2779[19:35:48] <unborn> Zliba: that is cool. I would say gimp for lables is pretty hard way to do it, but whatever you prefer and works for you is great
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• 2781[19:36:15] <Zliba> unborn, it's not hard. i can set the inches and DPI.... not hard at all
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• 2826[19:58:11] <cmhobbs> i've installed qt5-qmake but i can't seem to find any binaries for it on my system. how can i see what files were installed by a package?
• 2827[19:58:31] <daftest> Hey guys, my Wheezy 7.11 login screen is in the wrong keyboard layoot and doesn't show an option to change it. how can I change it?
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• 2838[20:03:17] <peterrooney> cmhobbs: dpkg -L <packagename>
• 2839[20:03:53] <cmhobbs> peterrooney: thanks!
• 2840[20:04:05] <cmhobbs> i'm also getting a lot of warnings about "missing maintainer" when i install things. anyone have any ideas about that? replaced-url
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• 2847[20:07:09] <nkuttler> ,v min
• 2848[20:07:10] <judd> No package named 'min' was found in amd64.
• 2849[20:07:15] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: apt-cache policy min
• 2850[20:07:30] <nkuttler> wait...
• 2851[20:08:08] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: sounds like you turned on warning display
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• 2853[20:08:36] <nkuttler> or is there actually a min package?
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• 2868[20:15:54] <cmhobbs> nkuttler: that returns this: replaced-url
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• 2878[20:17:40] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: that's not a debian package
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• 2883[20:18:02] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: and you have no source for it. do you know what it is?
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• 2885[20:18:15] <cmhobbs> no clue
• 2886[20:18:18] <cmhobbs> i'm not real sure how it got there
• 2887[20:18:20] <nkuttler> dpkg -L it i guess
• 2888[20:18:20] <dpkg> ii it i guess 2.1-12 nkuttler's private stamp collection
• 2889[20:18:26] <nkuttler> shuddup bot
• 2890[20:18:28] <cmhobbs> i'm pretty particular about keeping apt tidy
• 2891[20:18:35] <cmhobbs> kk
• 2892[20:18:36] <cmhobbs> thanks
• 2893[20:18:41] <nkuttler> aptitude can remove packages without sources
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• 2899[20:19:27] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: purge ~o
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• 2902[20:19:46] <cmhobbs> oh lord, it looks like some node crap
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• 2904[20:20:29] <nkuttler> cmhobbs: if it's a proper package there should be a license with a source link
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• 2906[20:20:36] <cmhobbs> yeah
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• 2908[20:20:50] <cmhobbs> i think i see where this came from
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• 2910[20:22:09] <cmhobbs> i fixed it
• 2911[20:22:12] <cmhobbs> nkuttler: thanks for the help
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• 2935[20:41:14] <DonJuan692006> I have an MSI GE72 running Kali. When I startup, the keyboard/trackpad are not working. If I plug in a USB keyboard/mouse, they work fine. Any help?
• 2936[20:41:52] <markybob> !tell DonJuan692006 about kali
• 2937[20:42:17] <markybob> DonJuan692006: kali isn't supported here. see what the bot sent you
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• 2939[20:43:01] <DonJuan692006> I did and I've posted in #kali-linux as well.
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• 2942[20:43:48] <markybob> !tell DonJuan692006 about crosspost
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• 2948[20:45:28] <DonJuan692006> !tell
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• 2950[20:45:44] <DonJuan692006> lol....was hoping for a list of options there.
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• 2953[20:47:26] <DonJuan692006> markybob: I can't express how helpful you have been.
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• 2961[20:50:57] <teraflops> I definitely cannot get the sarcasm on the irc. we need a rfc for dealing with it.
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• 2967[20:54:50] <otyugh> Anybody knows how to config a secur VNC server in listenning mode ? (the only way I know not to ask each sharing desktop to set NAT rules)
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• 2970[20:55:21] <otyugh> because there is ginzo which is awesome, but I have some doubt about security
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• 2973[20:55:56] <otyugh> then there is remmina but there seem not to be any server side contrary to what it is pretended in wikipedia
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• 3012[21:13:28] <otyugh> sypher, well maybe I could setup VNC throught tunnel
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• 3014[21:13:47] <hektabyte> I was just wondering, can you use Razer mouses on Debian?
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• 3016[21:14:24] <hektabyte> Not interested in the fancy features, just basic ones - ex. can you move the cursor, etc?
• 3017[21:14:56] <hektabyte> Or better yet, is there a site with a list of supported hardware?
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• 3022[21:18:26] <unborn> teraflops: rfc? what is that?
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• 3025[21:19:32] <unborn> otyugh: realvnc or vnc over ssh... you can google about both
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• 3030[21:22:20] <hektabyte> There's no return policy at my place so I would be grateful for any info regarding Razes peripherals on Linux. :S
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• 3033[21:23:14] <hektabyte> Nevermind, I found - replaced-url
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• 3041[21:28:22] <jhutchins> hektabyte: These days a mouse is pretty much a mouse.
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• 3049[21:35:00] <monsterco> Is there any way to nohup a process after it has started?
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• 3061[21:39:56] <jhutchins> !disown
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• 3063[21:40:22] <jhutchins> monsterco: Sometimes you can background it and disown it, but you loose any screen output.
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• 3121[22:14:39] <jim> hi... I'm having to maintain a squeeze (no choice this month) and I wanted to find out how to install packages for it... what's the archive mirror url?
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• 3123[22:17:16] <markybob> !squeeze-lts
• 3124[22:17:17] <dpkg> Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" ended on 2016-02-29 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb replaced-url
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• 3127[22:18:44] <dutchfish> squeeze-lts has ended but you can use the archives replaced-url
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• 3129[22:18:55] <markybob> yeah. bot said that :P
• 3130[22:19:15] <dutchfish> ah, i was too late, sorry
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• 3135[22:21:07] <dutchfish> the link from the bot doesnt work anymore tho
• 3136[22:22:06] <markybob> dutchfish: it's the exact deb line you pasted
• 3137[22:22:20] <markybob> dutchfish: if you're talking about what i had the bot spit out. very last line of the factoid
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• 3143[22:26:37] <tomcres> hi… anyone know what happened to steam in testing? It seems to be gone.
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• 3149[22:28:55] <markybob> tomcres: testing questions belong in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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• 3151[22:29:09] <tomcres> great. thanks! :-)
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• 3184[22:43:40] <hyoks> any idea how to get a GreenAsia MaxFire Blaze2 gamepad working?
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• 3190[22:46:10] <fennesz_> Hello is there a way I can change "When battery power is critical" to suspend instead of power off , in power options? Using debian 8 x64 with gnome
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• 3195[22:49:06] <chaddy> unwise, fennesz_
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• 3197[22:49:18] <chaddy> perhaps hibernate instead
• 3198[22:49:29] <fennesz_> chaddy, ok hiberante then
• 3199[22:49:45] <CutMeOwnThroat> is gnome doing that? probably
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• 3201[22:51:04] <fennesz_> I have tried to change the settings in dconf editor , for critical-battery-action but this does not seem to have any effect
• 3202[22:51:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> guesss would be easy enough to run a script in a cron job that hibernates on a certain level
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• 3204[22:52:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> or have it start at boot and then the script keeps running
• 3205[22:54:44] <CutMeOwnThroat> that would have the advantage that it also works when nobody is logged in
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• 3207[22:55:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> or with a different de/wm
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• 3257[23:21:40] <fennesz_> CutMeOwnThroat, found laptop-mode-tools
• 3258[23:21:46] <fennesz_> anyone tried it ?
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• 3289[23:35:26] <jim> thanks for the squeeze refs before
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• 3294[23:37:04] <Loeb> Any ideas on how to reduce dpc latency in qemu+kvm?
• 3295[23:37:15] <Loeb> Only thing I can think of is possibly using RT, but I've heard that might make things worse
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• 3303[23:39:50] <darkivy> I have an extended partition which has Debian installed on it. I also have about 500 Megs unallocated (Used to be partition with Ubuntu on there until I deleted it). Is it possible to extend my Debian partition to cover the unallocated space?
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• 3318[23:48:35] <Anselmo> nux
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• 3326[23:52:03] <reubenabrams> darkivy: Yes. Check out gnuparted (Gparted?)
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• 3328[23:52:32] <reubenabrams> darkivy: That tool ought to adjust the parittion table *and* expand the filesystem.
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• 3330[23:52:56] <darkivy> reubenabrams: yes i am reading all the posts about it, but my only question is that my free space is field and then my extended partition starts
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• 3334[23:53:21] <darkivy> it seems like you can only extend by adding to the end
• 3335[23:53:27] <darkivy> in gparted i mean
• 3336[23:53:52] <reubenabrams> I’m sorry, I’m late to the party. :) Is the 500MB block a gap in between two parittions?
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• 3338[23:54:25] <darkivy> no, from start to 500 MB is the unallocated space, then its my extended parition
• 3339[23:54:47] <darkivy> empty = 0 - 500, extended partition = 500 - 1000
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• 3341[23:55:50] <reubenabrams> Do you have logical partitions inside the extended partition?
• 3342[23:56:50] <darkivy> no
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• 3353[23:58:15] <reubenabrams> You have at least one primary partition, yes?
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• 3357[23:59:18] <reubenabrams> What about moving the extended partition w/ gparted until it is butting up against the end of your last primary partition?
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• 3359[23:59:34] <darkivy> i think that was the only i just deleted. in my extended partition i have my root parition and swap
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