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2 [00:01:23] <mundus2018> why would the command node not work if I have nodejs installed
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7 [00:02:40] <petn-randall> icarious: You could download the debian-archive-keyring, but you don't have a way of verifying that, either. Most installation image have signatures to verify if you're part of the web of trust, though.
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17 [00:06:13] <adalbertos> spatry
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21 [00:06:38] <Wulf> adalbertos: err.. what?
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23 [00:06:59] <adalbertos> hi there
24 [00:07:08] <adalbertos> lol
25 [00:07:26] <adalbertos> better not say the name spatry here haha
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27 [00:07:40] <Wulf> replaced-url
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33 [00:08:31] <adalbertos> is there an etra channel for antix?
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47 [00:15:24] <unborn> :D
48 [00:15:56] <unborn> yeah i saw that guy on utube already.. funny he is isnt he?
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55 [00:19:28] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
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59 [00:23:06] <nsgn> Hello. I've got a folder I need a user to access via ssh and put files into. This works fine except every file has permission only for this one user to work with them. Searching for a solution to this is fairly dizzying and turns up libpam-umask, umask in the .profile file, acls, etc. Is there a straight forward way to do this?
60 [00:23:26] <nsgn> I literally just want a folder several users can put things in and not have issues with rw access to things someone other than them put in there
61 [00:23:41] <Wulf> nsgn: what about a git repo?
62 [00:23:49] <nsgn> (again with the mode of access being ssh - sftp via filezilla more specifically)
63 [00:24:01] <themill> sftp is an important detail
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65 [00:24:56] <nsgn> Wulf, well it's a folder served by apache. we need an outside firm to log in and place files into it that users inside the org don't have to constantly chmod to work with later but we don't want to give them sweeping privs on the server obviously
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67 [00:26:00] <nsgn> anytime we put something in that directory they can't modify it. anything they put in we can't modify. someone has to come along with higher privs and chmod the files and it's getting old
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72 [00:27:16] <nsgn> I don't mind if what gets changed applies to everything the user does. The user accounts in question only have access to this system for the sake of this web directory. it's about all they have write permission to anyway.
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75 [00:28:03] <nsgn> My research finds this isn't really done on a per directory basis anyway. changing the umask in ~/.profile nearly seemed like the fix except there's a note already in .profile from the debian team saying if you're here to do this for ssh you should be using libpam-umask
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78 [00:28:48] <themill> I'm surprised .profile is used for sftp at all; sftp-server can be given a umask in sshd_config btw
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86 [00:30:17] <nsgn> themill, but then it applies even to admins you don't want running around writing stuff with broad permissions
87 [00:30:27] <nsgn> themill, i want it to apply only to select SSH users
88 [00:31:12] <Maws> Anyone know why MC have trouble copying large files over SSH? (reporting "disk full" when it's not)
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92 [00:32:33] <themill> nsgn: you could do it through a ForceCommand wrapper, but that's getting icky.
93 [00:32:59] <nsgn> yeah. i was hoping there was a not lame way to allow a few users to work in this folder without fighting over write permissions
94 [00:33:01] <themill> this is probably a case where ACLs is easier
95 [00:33:06] <nsgn> everything they make right now is write for them, read only for others
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103 [00:41:19] <nsgn> exit
104 [00:41:23] <nsgn> smooth
105 [00:41:24] <sweettea> fail
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107 [00:41:25] <sweettea> :)
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109 [00:41:44] <sm00th> yes?
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133 [00:51:11] <FuriousGeorge> is there any official crash debugging documentation for debian, or some unofficial documentation?
134 [00:51:24] <FuriousGeorge> im not finding much in the way of either, and a lot of the stuff is dated
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137 [00:52:51] <FuriousGeorge> im finding that if i enable iommu, the system reboots within a minute. i don't see a crash dump on the screen or any way to debug the issue
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151 [01:00:16] <icarious> the /jessie-updates in a mirror is same as the default replaced-url
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159 [01:06:32] <themill> icarious: no, jessie/updates ≠ jessie-updates
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163 [01:07:23] <icarious> themill: found it. it seems not every mirror syncs deb security. thanks though
164 [01:07:59] <themill> mirroring of the security archive is not encouraged
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175 [01:10:50] <icarious> themill: why?
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178 [01:12:52] <themill> because mirrors get out of sync or aren't updated properly and then you'd not see security updates. I know of mirrors of the security archive that people are still hosting but haven't updated them for years. It's not like the bandwidth is large enough to make it necessary for Debian (and Debian already has several mirrors that it controls for security.d.o that are spread around the world)
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240 [01:53:16] <otyugh> why jessie does not contain midori ?
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247 [01:57:41] <FuriousGeorge> it seems it might not be caused by enabling iommu, but doing so will reproduce it. using kernel > 4.4.6 seems to do it as well
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249 [01:58:04] <FuriousGeorge> basically the system boots, and within about a minute it locks for a few seconds, and then immediately reboots
250 [01:58:39] <sm00th> FuriousGeorge, does debian even use iommu?
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253 [01:59:44] <Epakai> otyugh: because it wasn't in testing when testing froze and it didn't get unblocked to migrate during the release cycle
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256 [02:00:36] <Epakai> otyugh: replaced-url
257 [02:00:41] <otyugh> Epakai: ok
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268 [02:05:30] <leba2> Hello. I've been told some linux distros are aimed for normal desktop usage (ubuntu, fedora, mint...), and others for server usage (centos, suse enterprise...). What would be Debian's case? Is it better thought for desktop, server, or just both?
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270 [02:06:01] <Epakai> debian is the best at everything
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273 [02:06:33] <sm00th> leba2, ya i'd say the all around distro.
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275 [02:06:44] <sm00th> good for both
276 [02:06:59] <Epakai> it doesn't have a particular aim (aside from social contract), it excels in areas where contributors contribute
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278 [02:07:05] <sypher> leba2: It sounds hyperbolic, but I'm in agreement. I prefer it for my desktops and servers, and my laptop with a little work.
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285 [02:08:52] <teraflops> otyugh: it depends on what youre looking for. that said debian is good at desktop if youre not obsessed with having latest versions of everything
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287 [02:09:13] <leba2> Mmm.... so indeed there are centos, suse enterprise definitely best used for servers; ubuntu, mint definitely best used for desktops; but debian can just get perfectly along being used as both?
288 [02:09:21] <leba2> (Not both at the same time, obviously)
289 [02:09:30] <otyugh> teraflops, I know :)
290 [02:09:32] <sm00th> leba2, ya
291 [02:09:57] <sm00th> FuriousGeorge, oh ya i guess it does replaced-url
292 [02:10:20] <leba2> The other distros usually don't work well indeed if using them for what they were not thought for, right?
293 [02:10:44] <leba2> Say, trying to use centos for desktop, games, etc.
294 [02:10:49] <sm00th> ya
295 [02:11:00] <FuriousGeorge> sm00th: i don't believe that is the problem though. it seems to be some other system stability problem. e.g. if I don't start my KVM vms i don't get a crash
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297 [02:11:09] <oneSIXone> depends on your ability
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301 [02:11:29] <oneSIXone> basically any distro can do anything you want with enough wrench time
302 [02:11:53] <otyugh> Exact. What is not here you can compile or package :3
303 [02:12:03] <FuriousGeorge> i can't seem to get crash dumps enabled correctly. there seems to be no documentation for debian. am i just unable to find it?
304 [02:12:56] <leba2> ^ If so, why is it *not* recommended centos for games or mint/fedora for servers?
305 [02:12:57] <sm00th> leba2, basically distro lke centos won't have the packages and compatibility out the box you would want for desktop user. and mint and ubuntu wouldn't be as lightweight stripped as you would want for server security.
306 [02:13:00] <leba2> ^ If so, why is it *not* recommended centos for games or mint/fedora for servers?
307 [02:13:03] <leba2> (sorry)
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310 [02:13:21] <leba2> sm00th: aaahhhh
311 [02:13:29] <oneSIXone> You're looking for a distro that accomodates what you wanna do.
312 [02:13:38] <oneSIXone> rather than have to make it one
313 [02:13:59] <leba2> sm00th: then you'd say debian comes like... "ready out of the box" for both possible usages? I.e., desktop and server.
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315 [02:14:16] <sm00th> leba2, I would say so.
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317 [02:14:35] <sm00th> wouldn't take as much tinkering
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321 [02:15:11] <leba2> Centos could be certainyl be used for desktop and games, but just not out of the box (I'd need to do quite additional work like looking for packages, compiling from source, etc)
322 [02:15:35] <leba2> Same for mint, fedora with servers...
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324 [02:16:07] <sm00th> i would definitely not consider fedora stable, or mint secure. both would be way too bloated
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330 [02:19:21] <leba2> sm00th: but debian would be just stable and light enough for servers, and at the same time complete enough for desktops, right?
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332 [02:20:45] <sm00th> ya debian has lots of installation options too
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336 [02:21:14] <leba2> Wow. Thanks a lot.
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425 [03:13:08] <SpeakerToMeat> Anybody knows why the h... vim-runtime has a divert for /usr/lib/libGL.so which is causing me troubles trying to install glx-diversions ?
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480 [03:38:52] <SpeakerToMeat> Ok, I've removed vim-runtime, glx-diversions still can't install since "vim-runtime has already diverted /usr/lib/libGL.so to /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/libGL.so" but there's no vim-runtime now, and neither of those files (or symlinks) exist....
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483 [03:40:04] <SpeakerToMeat> What can I check for this? Maybe some stuck information in a dpkg database somewhere?
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489 [03:41:57] <SpeakerToMeat> oook, dpkg-divert --remove
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556 [04:22:02] <sm00th> hbogo works for me, but it just looks terrible and plays extremely slow. if I play it from myverizon.com, it plays fine.
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558 [04:23:21] <sm00th> aedinius: probalby my pc and flashplayer are way too old for their new fancy site i can barely load.
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641 [05:34:12] <sm00th> .
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665 [05:49:22] <sm00th> hello all, how can I install apparmor version 2.9.2-1 noted in this bug reportreplaced-url
666 [05:49:23] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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668 [05:49:30] <sm00th> in debian jessie I only have 2.9.0
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673 [05:53:41] <jackcom> where i can download debian iso file?
674 [05:53:54] <somiaj> sm00th: debian jessie is frozen, so newer packages won't be provided. You could try to make your own backport from testing if you like, but then you'll have ot matain this
675 [05:54:03] <somiaj> jackcom: debian.org (there is a link in the upperright corner of rhe main page
676 [05:54:13] <sm00th> somiaj, how do I do that?
677 [05:54:15] <jackcom> thanks somiaj
678 [05:54:23] <somiaj> !tell sm00th about ssb
679 [05:54:29] <somiaj> ,check-backport apparmor
680 [05:54:38] <judd> Backporting package apparmor in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual.
681 [05:56:20] <sm00th> somiaj, so that means i can add an apparmor backport deb-src line?
682 [05:56:33] * sm00th is confused
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684 [05:57:25] <jackcom> what version must i install?
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688 [05:58:24] <somiaj> sm00th: you will add a deb-src line for stretch (Which is fine, it is only source)
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691 [05:59:45] <sm00th> I have no idea how to do that. I'm just gonna download from here. replaced-url
692 [06:00:39] <jackcom> amd64, arm64, armel, ……… < what must i choose?
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694 [06:00:59] <sm00th> well that didn't work
695 [06:00:59] <somiaj> sm00th: deb-src (then a standard source line)
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699 [06:02:57] <sm00th> I installed the file from that site but it says Files /var/lib/dpkg/info/apparmor.md5sums and /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/.apparmor.md5sums differ
700 [06:03:02] <sm00th> and looks like it installed anyways
701 [06:03:06] <sm00th> is that bad? lol
702 [06:04:18] <jackcom> amd64, arm64, armel, ……… < what must i choose? help me
703 [06:05:02] <sm00th> jackcom, w/e your computer is
704 [06:05:13] <jackcom> vmware fusion
705 [06:05:27] <sm00th> i don't know what that is, what are the specs, what type of processor
706 [06:05:54] <markybob> amd64
707 [06:06:01] <jackcom> Small CDs or USB sticks
708 [06:06:02] <jackcom> The following are image files which are up to 280 MB in size. Choose your processor architecture below.
709 [06:06:12] <jackcom> i download it?
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711 [06:06:19] <jackcom> marko___:
712 [06:06:23] <jackcom> markybob:
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714 [06:06:25] <markybob> download amd64 netinst
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716 [06:06:43] <jackcom> amd64 netinst
717 [06:06:44] <jackcom> thanks
718 [06:07:04] <jackcom> markybob: i can’t find netinst
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720 [06:07:49] <markybob> jackcom: replaced-url
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723 [06:08:04] <jackcom> thanks markybob :)
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754 [06:24:14] <jackcom> what debian desktop environment must i choose?
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756 [06:24:29] <markybob> whatever your heart desires
757 [06:24:37] <shadows> default is gnome3
758 [06:24:54] <shadows> with a couple of tweaks, I use gnome3 and it is acceptable
759 [06:25:04] <jackcom> i didn’t select anything, when i click enter, it is skipped.
760 [06:25:04] <polyzen> no DE
761 [06:25:15] <shadows> jackcom: still gnome3, I think
762 [06:25:40] <shadows> jackcom: I mean, if you select task-desktop
763 [06:26:01] <jackcom> i didn’t select anything :(
764 [06:26:05] <shadows> else if you did not install any desktop then yes none will be installed
765 [06:26:06] <jackcom> it is skipped
766 [06:26:14] <shadows> okay is that what you wanted?
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769 [06:28:29] <markybob> you can sudo tasksel. or sudo apt install whatever you want. like xfce4
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771 [06:28:47] <namra> how can i "truly" remove a package completly?
772 [06:28:55] <namra> apt-get purge and apt-get remove don't really do that
773 [06:29:29] <namra> or how to get around an error message like: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy.so', which is also in package apache2-bin 2.4.20-2
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775 [06:30:02] <namra> want to install apache2 version 2.2.22-13+deb7u6
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777 [06:30:34] <markybob> namra: you want to install 2.2.22, wheezy, on stretch?
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779 [06:31:32] <markybob> namra: that's ridiculous in more ways than i can mention. but for stretch support look at the /topic and go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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783 [06:32:34] <namra> wheezy
784 [06:32:55] <namra> passed along --force-overwrite during the installation
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787 [06:33:24] <markybob> namra: so why mention 2.4.20? that's stretch
788 [06:33:49] <namra> because i have the testing repos listed in apt sources
789 [06:33:59] <markybob> so you fucked everything up
790 [06:34:07] <markybob> !dontbreakdebian
791 [06:34:07] <dpkg> hmm... dont break debian is replaced-url
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794 [06:34:33] <markybob> you can't mix wheezy and testing. that's insane
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797 [06:35:14] <markybob> stable and testing is bad enough. old stable. fuck.
798 [06:35:29] <eliotime> You can migrate from Wheezy (archive) to Jessie (stable).
799 [06:35:43] <markybob> and he'll still be fucked with testing packages
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801 [06:35:47] <markybob> reinstall
802 [06:35:57] <namra> markybob: no need to go crazy all over it
803 [06:36:04] <namra> it's just a throw away vm
804 [06:36:20] <markybob> great. throw it away. that's what i'm saying.
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810 [06:37:47] <eliotime> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (with previous renaming of the APT sources, of course).
811 [06:38:43] <markybob> yeah. that's exactly what the docs say to go from wheezy (old stable) to stretch (current testing)
812 [06:38:55] <markybob> no
813 [06:39:56] <eliotime> He should migrate first from Wheezy to Jessie to avoid issues with the migration to testing branch.
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815 [06:40:31] <markybob> eliotime: it's what he should've done. already fucked that up
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817 [06:40:55] <eliotime> Hahahaha. Shit happens.
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832 [06:51:43] <xormor> good morning
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859 [07:04:35] <jackcom> vim: command not found 101
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890 [07:30:41] <somiaj> jackcom: vim isn't installed as default, use vi
891 [07:31:12] <jackcom> oh but i want to use vim
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894 [07:31:52] <somiaj> jackcom: then isntall vim
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896 [07:32:01] <somiaj> jackcom: apt-get install vim
897 [07:32:09] <jackcom> oh good thanks
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899 [07:32:42] <somiaj> jackcom: it just insn't installed by default, but vi is
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901 [07:33:00] <jackcom> i think that vim >>>>>> vi
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917 [07:40:23] <xormor> I use gedit currently. Sometimes I use nano. I try avoid vi, vim and emacs.
918 [07:40:28] <xormor> *I try to avoid
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939 [07:47:23] <uruk7> how to see replaced-url
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975 [08:13:24] <jackcom> gdm3 vs kdm vs light dm, what is best?
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983 [08:15:18] <jackcom> help me
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994 [08:20:07] <babilen> jackcom: That really depends on your requirements and the software you use (in particular DE)
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998 [08:21:05] <jackcom> ok thanks babilen
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1000 [08:21:59] <babilen> If you use gnome or many gnome/gtk related programs, for example, it would make sense to use gdm rather than kdm.
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1071 [08:48:08] <jackcom> nice
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1285 [09:17:34] <bibble> mkdir shared/; chown user:shared shared/; chmod 770 shared/; chmod g+s shared/; echo 'umask 002' >> .profile -- Working great. But when I scp a file to any other dir, permission is 640, so nginx can't access it ;_; How to have a shared dir, but not mess with normal default perms on rest of system through sftp ?
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1292 [09:19:59] <jackcom> how can i change host name?
1293 [09:20:30] <bibble> jackcom, /etc/hostname might be all you need ?
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1300 [09:22:53] <jackcom> bibble: anyway i must edit ‘hosts’ too?
1301 [09:23:19] <bibble> Ah, possibly, yeah... And maybe log out and in again.
1302 [09:23:33] <jackcom> thanks :)
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1307 [09:26:42] <jackcom> bibble: i must restart instead of log out
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1309 [09:27:28] <bibble> Oh, maybe. Is it a server?
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1314 [09:29:18] <k_sze[work]> Is it correct to say that systemd will scaffold a unit for old-school init scripts?
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1316 [09:29:52] <jackcom> bibble: i don’t know what to do? but i use server as ubuntu now
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1318 [09:29:59] <dirkk> hi, I use debian OS on my beaglebone black (RPi alternative). When I launch qt app there is conflict between framebuffer... anyway I found a solution by /etc/init.d/lightdm stop. It's working by launching qtapp from pc host, but when I run a script on target (stop lightdm then ./qtapp) it does not work. Is lightdm blocked the launch of application ?
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1325 [09:31:21] <bibble> jackcom, just looked at this and Seems fine,. replaced-url
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1329 [09:31:52] <Gaiseric> otyugh: Perhaps too late, and not exactly what you asked about, but if you want to install Midori on Jessie you can easily do it from the backports.
1330 [09:32:21] <Gaiseric> otyugh: Seems it's available again.
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1333 [09:33:23] <jackcom> but i changed it in the hostname and hosts
1334 [09:33:26] <jackcom> bibble:
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1338 [09:34:20] <bibble> ...at the end it says to either restart like you suggested, or run the last command to avoid restart.
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1340 [09:35:51] <jackcom> anyway i reboot it
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1345 [09:36:52] <bibble> Kewl.
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1368 [09:49:40] <suexec> Hey. apt-get upgrade lists a LOT of so called "no longer required" packages. How safe is autoremove?
1369 [09:52:07] <bibble> ..not sure but I always use after uninstalling anything, and try to insure purge of files. apt-get autoremove --purge --force-yes
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1387 [09:59:46] <suexec> bibble, I just find it strange that it has listed apache-2.2 bin etc ...
1388 [09:59:51] <babilen> suexec: Those are packages that have been installed as dependencies and nothing depends on them anymore. All package removals are safe (unless you start removing essential ones), but you might not *want* to remove them all.
1389 [10:00:12] <babilen> Would you consider removal of, say, Xorg safe?
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1392 [10:00:56] <suexec> That's where I'm stuck. There are a lot of lib* being suggested removed. I am just worried I'm going to render my system useless :)
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1394 [10:02:45] <babilen> If a program needs a library it would depend on it. So, unless you remove programs you don't want to remove you are fine.
1395 [10:03:04] <babilen> And, in the end, you can always install what is missing again.
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1398 [10:03:53] <suexec> OK. I'll just try it I guess.
1399 [10:03:56] <bibble> Like babilen says, they have no links. Only if e.g, you've created your own app that's using a lib the package manager is unaware of etc.
1400 [10:04:40] <suexec> I'm struggling with chrome falling into "Aw, Snap" all the time. Netbeans (java based) keeps crashing .. system is so unstable.
1401 [10:05:12] <babilen> Which Debian release are you tracking?
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1404 [10:06:07] <suexec> Just dist upgraded to wheezy
1405 [10:06:17] * babilen hasn't seen an "Aw, Snap" in quite a while.
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1410 [10:07:24] <babilen> suexec: To wheezy? You are behind the times!
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1412 [10:07:54] <suexec> Sorry, jessie
1413 [10:08:04] <suexec> from wheezy to jessie
1414 [10:08:04] <bibble> Cool :)
1415 [10:08:18] <babilen> Just remove the old cruft, check output of "aptitude search ~o" and make sure that everything has been upgraded.
1416 [10:08:54] <babilen> Did you follow replaced-url
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1418 [10:09:26] <suexec> Well, I have been on jessie for a few weeks. System was unstable under wheezy which triggered my dist upgrade.
1419 [10:09:34] <bibble> ...is it worth doing a clean reinstall ? , depending on all the apps to re-setup etc..
1420 [10:09:39] <suexec> But I am worried it might be failing hardware giving me the issues.
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1423 [10:09:50] <suexec> Yeah, quite possibly.
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1426 [10:10:59] <bibble> Guess mainly, backup hdd, reinstall latest os, browser, netbeans
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1429 [10:11:42] <suexec> Yeah. Given a reinstall is probably best option, I'm just going to see if I can get a brand new computer :)
1430 [10:11:56] <bibble> Ha, even nicer!!
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1433 [10:12:27] <suexec> Including words like "segmentation fault" and "kernel panic" in my "error report / new computer application" should work wonders.
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1436 [10:13:17] <masuberu> Hi
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1438 [10:13:30] <bibble> ...hmm, I'm not great with apt-get dist upgrade; does that include the kernel ?
1439 [10:13:38] <babilen> It does
1440 [10:13:42] <masuberu> I need advise on why my debian machine is not using all the memory available on my system
1441 [10:13:43] <bibble> Kewl.
1442 [10:13:47] <masuberu> replaced-url
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1444 [10:14:07] <masuberu> I thought that linux uses the whole memory available?
1445 [10:14:12] <babilen> bibble: "dist-upgrade" updates all packages even if that requires the installation of new ones or the removal of others
1446 [10:14:18] <jackcom> Ubuntu vs Debian, which is mor powerful?
1447 [10:14:40] <bibble> babilen, see see :)
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1449 [10:14:46] <babilen> jackcom: How do you measure "powerful" ?
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1451 [10:15:22] <jackcom> more penetration and logical
1452 [10:15:33] <bibble> Hawt.
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1454 [10:15:54] <babilen> jackcom: "penetration" ? And what makes a distribution more "logical" than another?
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1458 [10:16:37] <babilen> masuberu: That looks perfectly normal, what is your issue with it?
1459 [10:16:38] <jackcom> ok then more having program and there is no error when i install program.
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1462 [10:17:02] <bibble> ...Debian, I would say.
1463 [10:17:11] <bibble> More tested.
1464 [10:17:19] <bibble> Stability.
1465 [10:17:34] <jackcom> then why Ubuntu apperance is nice than Debian?
1466 [10:17:39] <jackcom> i don’t know this
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1471 [10:18:18] <masuberu> I thought that linux uses all memory available by default
1472 [10:18:20] <masuberu> ?
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1475 [10:19:07] <siggex> Tried Ubuntu on my new Lenovo. Reinstalled 3 times because of problems with multiple monitors. Now using Debian and will never use ubuntu again :). Works perfectly.
1476 [10:19:38] <bibble> jackcom, it's got more of the latest/more features, slicker GUI etc, but at the price of being bloated, slower, less stable.
1477 [10:19:56] <bibble> siggex <3
1478 [10:20:03] <masuberu> ok I am reading now about the disk cache, I understand now
1479 [10:20:06] <masuberu> thanks guys!
1480 [10:20:30] <jackcom> apperance : ubuntu > debian, function : ubuntu < debian? bibble
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1482 [10:21:25] <bibble> ...yeah, I would say. though really you could mould Debian into having as good an appearance etc.
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1486 [10:22:28] <jackcom> but ubuntu make phone, Debian don’t make phone?
1487 [10:22:30] <jackcom> bibble:
1488 [10:23:12] <bibble> True. not sure how well it's doing though.
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1490 [10:23:25] <jackcom> oh
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1495 [10:27:09] <bolt> is there a package or some easy method to allow my system to trust sites like replaced-url
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1498 [10:29:20] <jackcom> what is daemon?
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1500 [10:29:37] <jackcom> angel <—> daemon?
1501 [10:30:28] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: google is your friend. replaced-url
1502 [10:30:42] <jackcom> ok thanks TomTomTosch
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1524 [10:40:30] <otyugh> Gaiseric, yeah I just saw that, thanks :)
1525 [10:41:04] <otyugh> Thought I'll try xombreror, seem really close to jumanji, browser I liked too but lacked of time to master
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1598 [11:20:39] <jjulian> if an interface is set to static ip and i plug and unplug the cable are the "post-up" scripts executed? or is this for static interfaces done only once on boot time?
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1602 [11:24:12] <pragomer_1> pls help with smb share:
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1604 [11:24:32] <pragomer_1> /192.168.2.101/winshare_i /media/winshare_i cifs uid=myuser,gid=myuser,username=guest 0 0
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1606 [11:25:02] <pragomer_1> when I share a folder in win7 this works.. but not when I share a complete drive e.g. "i"
1607 [11:25:10] <pragomer_1> whats the difference and what can I do?
1608 [11:25:45] <pragomer_1> when i do "mount -a" I get
1609 [11:25:47] <pragomer_1> mount error(13): Permission denied
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1721 [12:27:04] <colo-work> linux-image-amd64 from backports refuses to dist-upgrade here; apt-get tells me the reason are "held broken packages". I don't have any pkgs on hold at all on this system. problem is that a new dependency (from bpo) is required to satisfy that package's min-version reqs for linux-base
1722 [12:27:06] <colo-work> why does apt-get come up with the "held packages" reason? is that a bug?
1723 [12:27:43] <g00se> Is there a way to determine 'outbound current' e.g. the charging state of a usb device?
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1726 [12:28:17] <themill> colo-work: can you pastebin that?
1727 [12:28:35] <colo-work> themill, what specifically?
1728 [12:28:51] <themill> the out
1729 [12:28:52] <themill> put
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1732 [12:29:58] <themill> (also, try aptitude for better error messages as it often does better at working out specifically why)
1733 [12:30:18] <colo-work> themill, replaced-url
1734 [12:31:17] <themill> also, you need -t jessie-backports
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1741 [12:38:08] <colo-work> themill, I'm aware that I need linux-base from backports, but why does apt-get come up with that error message? it's not correct; is it?
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1748 [12:41:21] <themill> colo-work: it's a bit of a default error message when other more specific things have failed and it is true in the sense of your pinning is what is preventing the installation
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1767 [12:53:12] <g00se> Is there a way to determine 'outbound current' e.g. the charging state of a usb device?
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1782 [13:01:07] <SirLagz> g00se: not without some external device, or a special motherboard
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1787 [13:03:30] <tdn> I just added a new disk to my server (/dev/sda). Then added this new disk to my volume group. Then created a new volume on it and put it in fstab. I checked that I could mount the volume on the path specified in fstab and everything worked. Then I rebooted to verify that it worked after reboot, but now it does not boot. I am in busybox and it says: Gave up waiting for root device.
1788 [13:03:48] <tdn> It complains aboit a disk identified by uuid that is not present. Then drops to a shell.
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1793 [13:05:23] <tdn> The shell I have is very limited. I cannot seem to mount my disks. Although they are present in /dev. How can I somehow get into my /etc/fstab and fix this? (assuming this is where this is to be fixed)
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1795 [13:05:58] <SirLagz> tdn: unplug that new hdd and reboot and see what happens?
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1800 [13:07:02] <tdn> SirLagz, then I need to poweroff the machine, but "poweroff" does notthing. "exit" just respawns busybox shell
1801 [13:07:20] <SirLagz> tdn: just pull the plug?
1802 [13:07:33] <tdn> SirLagz, it is a remote virtual machine.
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1804 [13:07:59] <SirLagz> tdn: well then just remove/disconnect the hdd from the vm and force reboot it
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1806 [13:10:19] <tdn> SirLagz, it seems I do not have permission
1807 [13:10:34] <tdn> Isnt there any way to mount the disks from busybox?
1808 [13:10:59] <SirLagz> tdn: I was assuming you'd already tried to mount them...have you tried to mount them?
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1812 [13:12:09] <SirLagz> tdn: sorry, just re-read what you wrote just then. What do you mean by 'cannot seem to mount my disks' ?
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1816 [13:12:37] <tdn> SirLagz, when I run "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" it says: mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: no such file or directory
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1819 [13:13:02] <SirLagz> tdn: and /dev/sda1 exists? and /mnt exists?
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1822 [13:13:05] <tdn> yes
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1825 [13:13:53] <tdn> But I guess I really need lvm to work first... But things like vgscan does not seem to be present.
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1827 [13:14:03] <tdn> Only vgchange seems to be there
1828 [13:14:14] <tdn> There is also an "lvm" command that gives me an lvm prompt
1829 [13:14:46] <SirLagz> tdn: at that point then, I'd just remove the offending disk...how did you add the disk in the first place?
1830 [13:15:29] <tdn> SirLagz, just asked the VM admin to add a new disk. And power on the machine. That worked: the new disk appeared as /dev/sdb
1831 [13:15:47] <tdn> I then added /dev/sdb to my vg.
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1837 [13:17:21] <tdn> lvscan finds my lvs. However, it says inactive on root lv and data lv. Only swap lv is ACTIVE
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1839 [13:19:17] <Ticho> tdn: all lvm commands are usually just symlinks to the "lvm" program
1840 [13:19:31] <Ticho> tdn: you should be able to use "lvm vgscan" instead of calling "vgscan"
1841 [13:19:32] <tdn> So using the "lvm" prompt, I activated the root and data lvs. Now they are present under /dev/sdksvn/data and /dev/sdksvn/root, however, I cannot mount them.
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1843 [13:19:41] <tdn> Get the same no such file error when mouting them.
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1845 [13:19:54] <tdn> Ticho, ok, I was not aware of that. Thanks.
1846 [13:20:09] <Ticho> is the volume group active? you can see the lvols even if it's not
1847 [13:20:16] <Ticho> so, vgchange -a y sdksvn
1848 [13:20:20] <Ticho> (or lvm vgchange ...)
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1850 [13:21:22] <tdn> Ticho, I did the vgchange to activate it. Mount still gives no such file.
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1852 [13:22:14] <Ticho> hm, that's odd
1853 [13:22:29] <Ticho> how do their attributes show up in "lvs" output?
1854 [13:22:46] <Ticho> it should be something like -wi-ao----
1855 [13:22:57] <Ticho> the 'a' stands for active, if I remember correctly
1856 [13:23:12] <tdn> Ticho, it says the lv and vg names. ATTR=-wi-a--- for all lvs. And their sizes are correctly reported
1857 [13:23:24] <tdn> What is the o?
1858 [13:23:54] <Ticho> hm... try mounting them via /dev/mapper/sdksvn-data device files
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1860 [13:24:07] <tdn> Yeah, tried that. Same error.
1861 [13:24:14] <Ticho> anything in dmesg?
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1863 [13:24:24] <tdn> I also tried mounting the cdrom /dev/cdrom just to see if that works. Same error.
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1865 [13:24:33] <tdn> Although I have connected an .iso to the VM.
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1868 [13:26:17] <tdn> OK. As a mistake I hit Ctrl+D (wrong terminal), this exits the busybox shell and resumes boot of the machine. Now it comes up appearently. I guess this is due to the fact that now lvs are present and can be mounted....
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1870 [13:26:50] <tdn> So what did I just do to fix this? I mean I activated some stuff in lvm, but how do I make this change permanent so that it works on next reboot?
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1880 [13:29:16] <Ticho> tdn: I'm not sure, but I think your initrd image needs to do the lvm activation
1881 [13:29:17] <tdn> This is the content of /etc/fstab: replaced-url
1882 [13:29:30] <tdn> Ticho, yeah. Any idea why it does not do that?
1883 [13:29:54] <Ticho> not really, sorry :)
1884 [13:30:01] <tdn> Should I regenerate initramfs after adding lvs?
1885 [13:30:19] <afernandez_> is youtube working for you guys?
1886 [13:30:27] <tdn> afernandez_, yes
1887 [13:30:35] <afernandez_> Thanks
1888 [13:30:41] <afernandez_> im getting 500 error
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1891 [13:32:40] <tdn> Ticho, update-grub will regenerate initrd, right?
1892 [13:33:31] <afernandez_> tdn: where are you?
1893 [13:33:33] <Ticho> no, update-initramfs should
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1896 [13:34:34] <tdn> Ticho, ok, I will try and run this.
1897 [13:34:50] <tdn> Ticho, is it normal that you have to run update-initramfs after adding new pvs, lvs, vgs?
1898 [13:35:01] <Ticho> I'd run update-grub (or update-grub2) after that as well
1899 [13:35:29] <tdn> Ticho update-initramfs -u, right?
1900 [13:35:30] <Ticho> only if you change the lvols or vgs which are needed for boot
1901 [13:35:33] <tdn> To update the existing
1902 [13:35:50] <Ticho> no idea, I always consult --help :)
1903 [13:36:02] <tdn> I see that I have both update-grub and update-grub2 on this system. Which one do I use?
1904 [13:36:42] <tdn> Ticho, update-grub says: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: Couldn't find PV pv1. Check your device.map.
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1909 [13:38:54] <tdn> Ticho, output from pvs is here: replaced-url
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1911 [13:39:09] <tdn> afernandez_, denmark
1912 [13:39:20] <Ticho> no idea, sorry
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1914 [13:39:49] <tdn> It says check your device.map. When I open /boot/grub/device.map, it contains one line: (hd0) /dev/sda
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1917 [13:40:03] <tdn> So I am guessing here: I should add the line: (hd1) /dev/sdb ?
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1919 [13:40:11] <tdn> But I have really no idea.
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1922 [13:42:10] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Can you tl;dr what you are trying to do?
1923 [13:43:35] <tdn> s4ndm4n, added a new disk to a VM. After this, it does not boot (waiting for root fs timed out). Stops in busybox. Start lvm from busybox and activate vg and lvs, then exit busybox to resume boot and it works. However, on reboot it still does not work.
1924 [13:43:48] <tdn> s4ndm4n, update-grub then gives the error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: Couldn't find PV pv1. Check your device.map.
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1926 [13:44:23] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Are you using grub?
1927 [13:44:30] <tdn> s4ndm4n, yes
1928 [13:44:41] <tdn> s4ndm4n, or grub2. I dunno
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1930 [13:44:53] <tdn> It appears that I have both grub-update and grub-update2 on my system.
1931 [13:44:59] <tdn> I have no idea what the difference is
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1933 [13:45:48] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Did you tell grub to use that disk on /etc/default/grub?
1934 [13:46:04] <tdn> s4ndm4n, I did not change /etc/default/grub
1935 [13:46:34] <tdn> s4ndm4n, /etc/default/grub has not been changed since install.
1936 [13:46:46] <s4ndm4n> tdn: You partitioned the disk manually? Or let the installer decide?
1937 [13:46:46] <tdn> And it contains no info about disks or devices.
1938 [13:46:58] <tdn> s4ndm4n, let the installer do it.
1939 [13:47:07] <tdn> s4ndm4n, "set up lvm and use entire disk"
1940 [13:47:13] <s4ndm4n> Weird
1941 [13:47:40] <tdn> But /boot/grub/device.map contains: (hd0) /dev/sda
1942 [13:47:56] <tdn> And the pv consists of two disks now as /dev/sdb has been added as well.
1943 [13:48:03] <tdn> So maybe I need to add it to device.map?
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1945 [13:48:45] <Ticho> you shouldn't need to add it there, it's not needed at all during boot
1946 [13:49:07] <Ticho> perhaps what happens is that in the initrd environment, the disk enumeration is reversed, and sdb appears as sda?
1947 [13:49:11] <Ticho> I'm just guessing here
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1949 [13:50:07] <tdn> Ticho, any way to test that idea?
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1951 [13:50:22] <tdn> Ticho, when it is stuck in busybox, sda appears as sda and sdb as sdb.
1952 [13:50:28] <tdn> Ticho, so they are not reversed there.
1953 [13:50:31] <Ticho> then it's probably not the case
1954 [13:50:49] <Ticho> anyway, adding a new disk should not affect boot process at all, I add new disks to virtual machines often
1955 [13:50:51] <s4ndm4n> Which grub did you install? grub legacy or grub2?
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1957 [13:51:12] <tdn> s4ndm4n, I do not remember. But I see that update-grub is just a symlink to update-grub2.
1958 [13:51:17] <g00se> SirLagz: Thanks
1959 [13:51:20] <tdn> Sorry, the reverse:
1960 [13:51:24] <SirLagz> g00se: no problems
1961 [13:51:27] <tdn> update-grub2 is a symlink to update-grub
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1964 [13:51:52] <tdn> dpkg -l |grep grub says grub-common is version: 1.99-27+deb7u3
1965 [13:51:52] <dpkg> ii |grep grub says grub-common is version: 1.99-27+deb7u3 3.1-3.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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1973 [13:54:19] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Here's what you can try: update initramfs and update-grub
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1977 [13:58:10] <tdn> s4ndm4n, I did just that.
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1979 [13:58:28] <tdn> s4ndm4n, update-initramfs -u went fine. update-grub gave the above error.
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1983 [13:59:33] <tdn> s4ndm4n, replaced-url
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1989 [14:00:56] <lionrouge> hi !
1990 [14:01:00] <lionrouge> i need help
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1994 [14:02:16] <bolt> !tell lionrouge +about ask
1995 [14:02:18] <lionrouge> i use Debian 8 with awesome wm (though i have XFCE4 installed). I want to change my screen resolution permanently. How to do it? The most part of information in Internet is wrong or outdated (from the blessed times of xorg.conf). I have no idea how to do it now. Maybe some systemd command?
1996 [14:02:55] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Try this: rename the /boot/grub/device.map to something else, run grub-mkdevicemap and then update-grub
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2000 [14:05:18] <Brigo> lionrouge, maybe the display manager can handle it, what are you using?
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2002 [14:06:01] <unborn> guys does anyone know how to make vlc video to play smooth? I have horizontal lines on fast scenes..
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2006 [14:07:20] <Brigo> i remember it :)
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2008 [14:08:36] <qqz> help; I can not boot Debian-8.5-amd64; Debian-8.4-i386 works
2009 [14:08:48] <qqz> grub always spies out: "invalid magic number"
2010 [14:09:13] <qqz> I have tried it on another computer with the same medium and uprageously it works there without a problem
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2012 [14:09:22] <Brigo> qqz, does your cpu supports amd64?
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2014 [14:09:35] <qqz> yes; it is a Core 2 Quad
2015 [14:09:38] <tdn> s4ndm4n, now update-grub does not give the error. Now reboot?
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2017 [14:09:46] <s4ndm4n> Yes
2018 [14:09:50] <lionrouge> Brigo: looks like i use xdm
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2021 [14:10:06] <lionrouge> actually i run X with startx after logging in in framebuffer mode
2022 [14:10:27] <tdn> s4ndm4n, it works! Thanks a lot!
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2025 [14:10:30] <qqz> it boots an already existant amd64 installation well
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2027 [14:11:25] <s4ndm4n> tdn: Don't thank me though. Googled your problem and solution was right there xD
2028 [14:11:51] <s4ndm4n> Learned a little bit more about grub-mkdevicemap though
2029 [14:12:17] <Brigo> lionrouge, then try xrandr, the man page has some examples at the end.
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2031 [14:12:38] <Brigo> qqz, then check the disk or the udma mode or something like it.
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2033 [14:13:22] <qqz> ok; there is some bios setting for sata/pata compatibility/enhances mode
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2035 [14:14:08] <Brigo> qqz, or reinstall. It could be a damage kernle file, a faulty disk, a faulty controler, a corrupted file system ....
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2040 [14:16:10] <qqz> no the same usb3hdd boots well on another computer so I would guess it to be the controller
2041 [14:16:51] <Brigo> qqz, i mean the file in the computer disk, no the usb image.
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2045 [14:18:19] <qqz> Brigo: how can you explain that the same hdd boots well on another computer
2046 [14:18:49] <qqz> it is not an usb image it is a partition of my usb3 hdd where the iso has been streamed into
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2056 [14:22:51] <mirazi_heket> hello, if you set up encrypted partition on debian + lvm (from debian installer creator) - where are saved directives for this "mount"?
2057 [14:22:53] <lionrouge> Brigo: i have a working set of xrandr commands to change the resolution but how to make it survive reboot?
2058 [14:23:10] <qqz> put all of it into your xorg.conf
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2062 [14:23:27] <unborn> oh my vlc is solved :)
2063 [14:23:46] <qqz> replaced-url
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2065 [14:24:59] <lionrouge> qqz: as i know xorg.conf is not used anymore
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2067 [14:25:21] <babilen> mirazi_heket: Are you looking for /etc/crypttab ?
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2071 [14:26:04] <qqz> not true; I still heavily use xorg.confs
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2074 [14:26:27] <Captain_Sifff> Hi all! What is the proper way of maintaining per user quotas if the information is in LDAP?
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2077 [14:26:34] <babilen> qqz: It would still be considered deprecated
2078 [14:26:38] <qqz> you can use them but you do not need to do so
2079 [14:26:44] <babilen> dpkg: xorg.conf.d
2080 [14:26:45] <dpkg> xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf".
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2082 [14:27:05] <qqz> no it isn`t;
2083 [14:27:10] <qqz> you need an xorg.conf whenever there is no other way than to assemble your modelines manually
2084 [14:27:26] <qqz> yes; but that is an "xorg.conf" too
2085 [14:27:29] <lionrouge> qqz: ok, thanks
2086 [14:27:30] <qqz> a split one though
2087 [14:27:36] <mirazi_heket> babilen: thats it, thanks a lot!
2088 [14:27:53] <qqz> of course "splitted xorg.confs" are preferred these days
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2091 [14:28:07] <babilen> qqz: I was specifically referring to a monolithic /etc/X11/xorg.conf rather than "Xorg configuration" in general
2092 [14:28:24] <babilen> (and one that configures everything even all the things Xorg autodetects correctly)
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2096 [14:29:57] <lionrouge> qqz: grub uses the same way of managing config
2097 [14:30:11] <babilen> It is a common scheme on Debian
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2111 [14:35:52] <qqz> is there really no way to disable this damn magic check? I have already tried all BIOS settings
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2121 [14:38:20] <jelly> qqz: did you try setting up an usb disk in a supported way instead (that is, overwriting a whole usb stick and booting off that)?
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2130 [14:41:52] <qqz> jelly: that is not an option; I would rather avoid using the computer where it does not work
2131 [14:42:03] <qqz> one thing I have just discovered
2132 [14:42:13] <qqz> grub does not recognize all partitions on that disk
2133 [14:42:24] <qqz> maximum partition is hd0,msdos
2134 [14:42:33] <qqz> 7 that one I wanna boot from
2135 [14:42:44] <qqz> perhpas there is a size restriction on the HDD
2136 [14:42:49] <qqz> by the bios
2137 [14:43:17] <qqz> I have already tried to use nativedisk but that did not seem to work either
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2140 [14:43:40] <qqz> perhaps I would just allocate a partition which is more at the beginning
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2179 [14:55:12] <eSa|> the is a nic feaature in mousa handling wihin the X which allows me to middleclick a side scrolll bar to have the window scrolled. Do you know how to avtivate it (or why I have it off)?
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2207 [15:07:52] <Brigo> qqz, it is weird anyway, all kernels should fail in that case, not only that.
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2213 [15:09:51] <lionrouge> qqz: i made it ! thank you and Brigo
2214 [15:10:01] <phatomx> what does happen if I install kernel 4.6 in debian wheezy(7.x)? does it works?
2215 [15:10:12] <Brigo> lionrouge, yw :)
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2217 [15:10:32] <towo^work> phatomx, from where you will get this kernel?
2218 [15:10:52] <lionrouge> i created a file my.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d with Monitor section where i put my custom mode into ModeLine parameter and with a screen section which chooses that mode
2219 [15:11:21] <phatomx> towo^work: I'm planning to install jessie backport (dpkg force install) or compile kernel manually
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2221 [15:11:35] <towo^work> from jessie backports i will never work
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2224 [15:11:49] <towo^work> if you compile it yoursels, why should it not work
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2226 [15:12:35] <phatomx> towo^work: did you try it? how do you know jessie backport not working?
2227 [15:13:10] <towo^work> phatomx, wheezy doe not have the depends available for installing things from jessie backports
2228 [15:13:16] <towo^work> that should be clear at all
2229 [15:13:29] <towo^work> and btw, it would not be supported at all
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2231 [15:14:17] <phatomx> towo^work: thx for your answering, then I should have to go manually compile..
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2262 [15:30:29] <change> Hello
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2265 [15:31:41] <change> Test
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2298 [15:42:57] <ftamas> replaced-url
2299 [15:42:59] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2308 [15:47:05] <nils_> I'm using unattended-upgrades and needrestart to keep systems up to date. However it's currently being scheduled via /etc/cron.daily
2309 [15:47:34] <nils_> I'd prefer to specify exactly when this job is run so it doesn't run at the same time on all servers
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2315 [15:48:08] <markybob> so move it to crontab
2316 [15:48:26] <nils_> assuming I upgrade something won't the file just re-appear?
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2318 [15:48:49] <markybob> no
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2323 [15:50:18] <nils_> hm I'm thinking I might just edit /etc/crontab
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2371 [16:06:25] <jackcom> who know /usr means?
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2394 [16:18:01] <jtdowney> jackcom: replaced-url
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2404 [16:23:34] <ar> hi. I have /boot and /boot/EFI on removable media. how can i force apt to explicitly ask for the /boot if there are packages to install/remove that touch files on /boot
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2412 [16:25:39] <MaBunny> guys where are documentation files saved????
2413 [16:26:13] <qqz> xx /usr/share/doc/packages
2414 [16:26:19] <MaBunny> ok
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2416 [16:27:49] <napnap> Hi all...I made a script called by cron that launch a python script with the ouput redirected to a file. Pb : The file remain empty....if I launch the command directly from my command line , the file is populated....why ? :(
2417 [16:27:50] <napnap> replaced-url
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2421 [16:29:40] <napnap> (read 2>&1 instead of 2&1 on my pastebin)
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2426 [16:30:12] <Linnak> hexchat
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2434 [16:32:17] <jelly> napnap: enable cron.log in /etc/rsyslog.conf, restart rsyslog, see if the script gets run. Which debian release is this?
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2439 [16:33:19] <themill> is cron even running?
2440 [16:33:44] <themill> the process grep guard will also bail out on the file being open in an editor
2441 [16:34:11] <napnap> jelly Jessie
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2443 [16:34:48] <napnap> themill, the program is launched. it is just the output file which remain empty
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2446 [16:36:25] <jelly> napnap: if the service is running, verify whether it has the output file open or not. "fuser /home/pi/playAndLearn.out", as root maybe
2447 [16:36:27] <jhutchins> napnap: Most common problems are permissions on the file, failure to declare an interpreter, failure to use full path names, assuming environment variables.
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2456 [16:41:48] <rlange> using standard jessie gnome and after disabling gnome-keyring and rebooting, does anyone else see a problem with using ssh-agent with keys added using `ssh-add -c`?
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2458 [16:42:05] <simonlnu> !keychain
2459 [16:42:06] <dpkg> Keychain is an application to have SSH and/or GPG agents be run for you at a login shell. apt-cache show keychain
2460 [16:42:24] <rlange> b/c right now I am not able to use those keys unless I first manually kill and restart ssh-agent
2461 [16:42:41] <napnap> jelly, "fuser /home/pi/playAndLearn.out" return me nothing, After enable cron.log, I've just "Jun 22 14:42:01 raspberrypi CRON[3415]: (pi) CMD (~/cronPlayAndLearn.sh)" inside.
2462 [16:42:44] <greycat> There can be any arbitrary number of agents running.
2463 [16:43:03] <greycat> Killing old unreferenced ones frees some memory, maybe, but isn't otherwise essential.
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2468 [16:43:30] <rlange> yeah, i get that, but I would kind of prefer to just use the one that autoloads on login, rather than dicking around w/ shell variables manually in each shell
2469 [16:44:28] <rlange> it seems that if ssh-agent loads before a GUI (as is the case w/ the initial agent) then that agent can never use must-confirm keys
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2475 [16:45:44] <rlange> i was cool w/ just keeping gnome-keyring until i discovered that it can't deal with must-confirm keys, but unfortunately the default ssh-agent isn't good in that regard either. i'll give this `keychain` a try
2476 [16:45:57] <jelly> napnap: so the cron job runs, and you have to fix the script
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2483 [16:46:38] <napnap> jelly, with cron I have "/usr/bin/python /home/pi/playAndLearn.py >> /home/pi/playAndLearn.out 2>&1" in the process list.
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2485 [16:46:59] <napnap> when I launch it mannually from the cmd line I've only "/usr/bin/python /home/pi/playAndLearn.py" in the process list
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2487 [16:47:11] <jelly> napnap: that doesn't make sense, you should not be able to see the redirection in the process list
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2489 [16:47:36] <greycat> Maybe he actually has sh -c '/usr/bin/python /home/pi/playAndLearn.py >> /home/pi/playAndLearn.out 2>&1' in the process list and he can't type.
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2491 [16:48:15] <jelly> greycat: replaced-url
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2493 [16:48:28] <jelly> a sh -c would actually be nice.
2494 [16:49:28] <greycat> Ok, that's hilariously bad. He's not actually performing redirections. He's passing the >> and the 2>&1 as literal strings.
2495 [16:49:38] <greycat> napnap: replaced-url
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2497 [16:50:38] <greycat> Also his ps|grep|grep line is wrong. That will not correctly detect whether he's running already or not.
2498 [16:50:51] <ghormoon> hi, can I somehow "probe" remote Xserver? to check, if it will accept a window without actually trying and crashing some X app in z loop? :)
2499 [16:51:00] <greycat> For that one, he should read replaced-url
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2502 [16:51:44] <jackcom> jtdowney: Unix System Resource
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2512 [16:57:10] <jelly> napnap: the thing with pipes is $? will contain the return code of the last command in the pipe, "grep -v grep" in this case. Save yourself the trouble and use "pgrep" instead
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2520 [17:00:15] <rattking> you can set pipefail to change that behaviour
2521 [17:01:10] <greycat> Checking for running processes by name is inherently bad, for the reasons described on replaced-url
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2523 [17:01:17] <jelly> rattking: there is no pipefail in /bin/sh
2524 [17:01:22] <greycat> (also true)
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2528 [17:03:48] <jelly> and "if ! foo" instead of "foo; if [ $? != 0 ]"
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2532 [17:04:19] <greycat> Well, at least that was just extra verbosity and not an error.
2533 [17:05:50] <greycat> makerun() { /usr/bin/python /home/pi/playAndLearn.py >> ~/playAndLearn.out 2>&1 & }; export DISPLAY=:0; pgrep playAndLearn || makerun
2534 [17:05:59] <greycat> That would be one way to rewrite it.
2535 [17:06:14] <greycat> oops, should have replaced both instances of /home/pi/
2536 [17:07:41] <greycat> and probably want >/dev/null on pgrep
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2597 [17:10:45] <jelly> it's probably not "have to" as much as "spend the least amount of resources doing a silly monitoring and restart script"
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2600 [17:10:57] <jelly> instead of, say, making a systemd unit for the thing
2601 [17:10:58] <jhutchins> greycat: WHich section of that doc are you referring to?
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2606 [17:10:59] <jelly> !wb llimeht_
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2664 [17:12:16] <greycat> Thanks, freenode.
2665 [17:12:24] <napnap> jelly, greycat thx 4 your help.
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2674 [17:13:44] <tuppabox> how can i find the name of an aplication to start in the terminal?
2675 [17:13:53] <tuppabox> *from the terminal
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2678 [17:14:12] <greycat> Ask a question that includes some details about what you want to do.
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2682 [17:14:31] <tuppabox> i want to start the kde system settings as root
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2685 [17:14:57] <tuppabox> the login screen settings
2686 [17:15:10] <TomTomTo1> usually it's a bad idea to run graphical applications as root.
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2688 [17:15:28] <TomTomTo1> is it the login screen now or the system settings? and why?
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2697 [17:16:31] <tuppabox> ah ok now it works or the window doesnt appear....to enter the password for more rights
2698 [17:16:35] <jhutchins> tuppabox: If it's set up properly, it should prompt you for a password to run as root when you launch it.
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2703 [17:17:35] <tuppabox> yes right, thank you think the window was in the background before....because i couldnt see it...
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2738 [17:27:38] <jackcom> what is $?
2739 [17:27:46] <jackcom> what is ‘$?'?
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2742 [17:28:27] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: the most recent exit status.
2743 [17:28:50] <jackcom> what is 0?
2744 [17:28:56] <jackcom> succeed?
2745 [17:29:03] <kevin-leptons> jackcom: $? is returned value of prev command
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2747 [17:29:15] <jackcom> yeah what is 0?
2748 [17:29:19] <jackcom> kevin-leptons:
2749 [17:29:29] <kevin-leptons> jackcom: in normal, posix, 0 mean is success, other mean is error
2750 [17:29:37] <jackcom> oh
2751 [17:29:39] <jackcom> thanks
2752 [17:29:42] <jackcom> :)
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2754 [17:29:47] <kevin-leptons> jackcom: :D
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2760 [17:32:04] <jackcom> && = ;
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2762 [17:32:12] <jackcom> ‘&&’ == ‘;’
2763 [17:32:13] <jackcom> ?
2764 [17:32:21] <greycat> No.
2765 [17:32:42] <greycat> && checks the exit status. ; does not.
2766 [17:33:11] <jackcom> && excute when first command is 0?
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2768 [17:33:23] <jackcom> greycat:
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2770 [17:33:46] <babilen> jackcom: There is a very friendly #bash channel and reading replaced-url
2771 [17:33:49] <greycat> Given the command a && b the shell runs a, then checks the exit status, and only runs b if the status was success (0).
2772 [17:34:15] <jackcom> oh thanks greycat :)
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2774 [17:35:04] <jackcom> echo1 first && echo second
2775 [17:35:05] <jackcom> bash: echo1: command not found
2776 [17:35:17] <jackcom> echo1 first ; echo second
2777 [17:35:17] <jackcom> bash: echo1: command not found
2778 [17:35:18] <jackcom> second
2779 [17:35:24] <jackcom> good
2780 [17:35:29] <greycat> jackcom: #bash is a more suitable place for this
2781 [17:35:38] <jackcom> ok
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2783 [17:36:11] <TomTomTosch> need samuel l. jackson in here to tell people to not press enter too often.
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2786 [17:37:15] <babilen> dpkg: enter
2787 [17:37:15] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
2788 [17:37:24] <babilen> TomTomTosch: ^ is the best we could afford
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2792 [17:38:09] <greycat> He was pasting commands and responses, not writing prose.
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2797 [17:39:26] <babilen> For which a pastebin would be better suited in the long run, but lets not delve into this. I saw no harm in what happened, but hope that further questions are being asked in a more suitable channel like #bash
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2827 [17:51:31] <kevin-leptons> some thing are funny will happen here ? :)
2828 [17:51:55] <greycat> Not on a regular basis, but you never know.
2829 [17:52:20] <mtn> funny haha or funny strange?
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2833 [17:53:00] <kevin-leptons> ha ha
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2882 [18:08:52] <debfan> Hello
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2885 [18:09:46] <debfan> I'm having hard times with upgrading apache on debian 8.4...
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2887 [18:10:10] <debfan> I need to update it to version >=2.4.14 due to PCI DSS...
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2889 [18:10:23] <debfan> But there's no newer version than 2.4.10.
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2892 [18:10:52] <debfan> I tried checking packages from unstable/testing, but it's missing apache2-mpm-prefork - and I need that package.
2893 [18:10:55] <debfan> Any advice?
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2896 [18:12:09] <petn-randall> ,v apache2
2897 [18:12:12] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze15; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u1; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u4; stretch: 2.4.20-2; sid: 2.4.20-2
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2900 [18:12:57] <debfan> ,v apache2-mpm-prefork
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2902 [18:13:01] <judd> Package: apache2-mpm-prefork on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze15; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u1; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u4
2903 [18:13:19] <debfan> Yep, 2.4.10-10 is the newest version in all repositories.
2904 [18:13:29] <petn-randall> debfan: You could backport the apache2 from testing, and track security issues by hand. But it seems like you should be talking to whoever dictates this and explaining them that this will *decrease* the security of your site.
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2907 [18:14:03] <TomTomTosch> ,checkbackport apache2
2908 [18:14:04] <judd> Backporting package apache2 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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2910 [18:14:31] <petn-randall> debfan: The packages in jessie get 100% security support, the ones in testing don't. Meaning that you can be quite confident that any open security issues are fixed in 2.4.10-10+deb8u1.
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2912 [18:14:57] <debfan> petn-randall: even if I will backport apache from testing that will not help me in case of getting mpm-prefork version.
2913 [18:15:05] <debfan> And the main issue here is mpm-prefork.
2914 [18:15:06] <greycat> You have to choose whether you want to be secure and stable, or get rid of the red flags on you manager's crappy PCI scan report.
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2916 [18:16:01] <debfan> petn-randall: so for example CVE-2015-3183 is fixd in 2.4.10-10?
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2919 [18:17:03] <TomTomTosch> you can check stuff in the tracker of doom. replaced-url
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2921 [18:17:18] <debfan> Checking, thanks.
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2925 [18:18:43] <debfan> Okay, checked them all, no need to upgrade in that case, all are 'fixed'. Thans TomTomTosch.
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2928 [18:20:04] <petn-randall> debfan: Just make sure you apply security updates regularly. :)
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2931 [18:21:31] <debfan> I do :-)
2932 [18:21:33] <debfan> Thanks.
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2989 [18:36:47] <leba2> Do you know how often are new debian "sub-versions" released? Sub-version meaning 8.3, 8.4, 8.x
2990 [18:37:02] <leba2> I realized 8.5 was almost just released...
2991 [18:37:33] <leba2> I wanted to download it, but what if in few days a new 8.6 is released?
2992 [18:37:54] <greycat> Then you'll get new packages when you apt-get upgrade.
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2994 [18:38:28] <leba2> Oh
2995 [18:38:49] <leba2> Well, anyway, even if just curiosity, how often are new debian "sub-versions" released? Sub-version meaning 8.3, 8.4, 8.x
2996 [18:39:03] <TomTomTosch> every few months.
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2998 [18:39:38] <leba2> Ouch
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3001 [18:40:09] <leba2> So even in a production server apt-get update (or upgrade?) every few months...
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3006 [18:40:57] <greycat> Every day.
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3008 [18:41:08] <Johann> well, you should do that every few days if you can manage it.
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3010 [18:41:19] <greycat> I usually do about once a week, because I'm lazy.
3011 [18:41:35] <Johann> Still, it very much depends on your needs
3012 [18:41:37] <greycat> You can also subscribe to the security announcements mailing list.
3013 [18:41:54] <leba2> OUCH
3014 [18:41:59] <TomTomTosch> point releases is not where you get security updates if that was your concern.
3015 [18:42:11] <Johann> Each upgrade has a chance to break something on your system so every upgrade on very critical system *should* be tested before
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3017 [18:42:39] <Johann> if you can't afford a good test environment then maybe you should lower a little your upgrade frequency, or choose not to upgrade at all.
3018 [18:43:20] <Johann> if the servers are not very critical and you can afford a couple of hours of downtime to correct the problem if something goes wrong , then you should upgrade the msot often that you can
3019 [18:43:27] <jhutchins> leba2: Not sure exactly what you're trying to determine, but Debian releaseas aren't tied to a schedule, they're based on when significant improvements are tested and stable and ready to release.
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3023 [18:44:21] <leba2> Mm...
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3040 [18:53:22] <XeonSquared> Can I go testing -> jessie-updates?
3041 [18:53:30] <greycat> no
3042 [18:53:41] <XeonSquared> Welp, good to know the answer is that simple.
3043 [18:53:49] <XeonSquared> Testing it is.
3044 [18:53:49] <tv_> hello. is there a free software (in Debian) to easily create "doodling" videos from vector graphics?
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3046 [18:56:10] <tv_> I have looked at inkscape (no dynamics), tupi, and pencil2d (the latter two are apparently more for separate frames, but not for something that is incrementally drawn)
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3069 [19:03:49] <XeonSquared> Okay, another fun question: Are there any current live images that fit on a 700M CD and have a desktop environment?
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3090 [19:11:55] <jhutchins> XeonSquared: I don't see any on the the Debian live page. Knoppix is DVD only now.
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3092 [19:12:08] <XeonSquared> That's a pain.
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3094 [19:12:35] <XeonSquared> Hard to use these 150 CDs. Oh well, I'll throw something together
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3105 [19:16:23] <Pr0metheus> i am trying to setup a vpn connection (IKEv2 PEAP) with strongswan. Unfortunately, the GUI does not work in Gnome (network-manager). I saw the wiki but the examples do not match my configuration files. Can anyone give a hint on where to start? /etc/strongswan.d/charon has so many conf files
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3111 [19:21:00] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: have you installed the strongswan-nm (the plugin for network manager)?
3112 [19:21:10] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: there is also network-manager-strongswan
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3114 [19:21:23] <Pr0metheus> somiaj yes already did, the gui is broken
3115 [19:21:41] <Pr0metheus> somiaj i checked the bug reports, it has been already submmited
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3117 [19:22:10] <somiaj> was there no solution in the bug-reports, or was the solution learn how to configure the software (I haven't used it so I don't really know how to configure it)
3118 [19:22:24] <Pr0metheus> no solution yet, so i have to find a way to set it up manually
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3153 [19:40:22] <aria> hey guys
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3165 [19:41:51] <aria> question: If i open a screen session and su to a different user, and run a process, why doesnt that other user show up in who ?
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3167 [19:41:53] <aria> or w
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3170 [19:42:55] <somiaj> aria: su doesn't do a full login, try su - username
3171 [19:43:10] <greycat> because 'w' and 'who' read from a file called utmp (or wtmp), which only gets written to by login(1) and some other specific things
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3173 [19:43:40] <aria> interesting
3174 [19:43:46] <greycat> Basically, the entire who/utmp infrastructure is pathetic and should not be used as any kind of security monitoring.
3175 [19:44:32] <Serialbox> greycat: i centrally log, but I gotta be honest i've used who/utmp ALOT back in the day for seeing who was on my shell box
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3177 [19:44:49] <aria> tried it, somiaj, altho i did a sudo su - username
3178 [19:44:53] <greycat> It's OK for a quick glance to see if Susan has logged in yet, but....
3179 [19:44:56] <Serialbox> but yeah anyone can launch something directly through ssh and you'd never see it
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3182 [19:45:06] <aria> it still shows up as 2 connections by the first user
3183 [19:45:11] <somiaj> aria: su - username isn't showing up in su? Hmm thought that would give a full login(1) shell
3184 [19:45:13] <Serialbox> greycat: central logging is best practices now a days, but I doubt most people do it.
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3186 [19:45:30] <greycat> Depends on what your security/auditing needs are.
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3188 [19:45:40] <Serialbox> greycat: I'm at a university
3189 [19:45:41] <aria> dunno, im running a trimmed down wheezy
3190 [19:45:41] <somiaj> aria: it might just be looking at open terimals (tty and pty) and giving the user who owns the terminal, not the user who is loged in
3191 [19:45:41] <greycat> Most people are not running machines critical enough to warrant a lot of effort.
3192 [19:45:42] <Serialbox> we get raped daily
3193 [19:46:03] <Serialbox> well, weekly... and it's not always rape. sometimes it's just sexual assault
3194 [19:46:26] <Serialbox> But if I haven't responded to an incident this week, I start to worry
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3196 [19:46:54] <Serialbox> greycat: personally I think the windows event viewer alone warrents logging it centrally somewhere else
3197 [19:47:18] <greycat> "man utmp" is a good introduction
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3201 [19:48:01] <aria> ty grey
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3204 [19:49:38] <greycat> utmp/wtmp were developed back in the early days of unix, when all of the people on the box worked in your department, and they all used hard-wired serial terminals, no networking....
3205 [19:49:49] <eSa|> hmmm mouse wheel suddenly returned with the nice behaviour
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3209 [19:51:22] <greycat> utmp/wtmp won't do a damned thing to report that john logged in, left a background job sleeping, logged out, and then 5 days later, the background job woke up and did a bunch of evil things.
3210 [19:51:39] <Serialbox> greycat: yeah exactly
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3213 [19:51:51] <Serialbox> but that's kinda not what it was ever intended for either
3214 [19:52:10] <greycat> That's my point. It's not intended for any kind of security auditing, but people *think* it is.
3215 [19:52:17] <Serialbox> A nightly email telling you how much bandwidth/connections each uid made/used would be nice
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3217 [19:52:49] <Serialbox> And since your big fancy firewall can't see UID states on the box (or is there some sort of agent with some vendors now?)
3218 [19:52:58] * Serialbox considers writing an agent
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3223 [19:53:41] <Serialbox> Actually it'd be really easy to do. All the device would have to do is ask the agent who owns that sourceport
3224 [19:53:55] <greycat> sounds like identd
3225 [19:54:00] <Serialbox> LOL
3226 [19:54:04] <Serialbox> yeah but no one uses that anymore
3227 [19:54:14] <Serialbox> It's exactly identd
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3233 [19:57:26] <somiaj> aria: ps faux (or varients) will give you the owners of all currently running processes
3234 [19:57:32] <aria> ooh
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3242 [19:58:38] <Serialbox> somiaj: well lsof -i in the case of sockets, but yes.
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3244 [19:58:55] <Serialbox> Trouble is that's not really automated/clear and you can't discover trends over time with it unless you're polling it manually
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3251 [20:00:32] <aria> i like how ps faux shows you more of the logic flow in your processes
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3297 [20:19:44] <MaBunny> Does the debian os work for arm cortex a7 mt-6592 ?
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3299 [20:19:48] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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3301 [20:20:37] <somiaj> MaBunny: do you happen to know if that is an arm v7 arch or arm v6 or something else?
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3303 [20:20:52] <MaBunny> Ill search for it
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3314 [20:23:30] <towo`> it's arm v8
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3316 [20:23:45] <MaBunny> Its written like this: The ARM® Cortex®-A7 is the most efficient ARMv7-A processor and the most successful
3317 [20:23:56] <MaBunny> I guess its v7
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3319 [20:24:42] <towo`> ah yes, it's v7, looked at the wron line in the table
3320 [20:25:13] <MaBunny> So, can i install debian on this platform???
3321 [20:25:18] <somiaj> well the armhf port supports armv7, so debian should support it
3322 [20:25:25] <MaBunny> Ok
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3324 [20:26:02] <greycat> You might also want to ask #debian-arm on OFTC (not Freenode), in case the device has some bizarre booting requirements. Some of them do.
3325 [20:26:05] <somiaj> if the armhf port doens't support it (if it lacks the floating point support, which I doubt) you may have to fall back to the older armel port.
3326 [20:26:09] <MaBunny> What about the installation process...how will i go about it
3327 [20:26:24] <towo`> after reading all your quesations here, i would say, you win't get debian installed on such device
3328 [20:26:29] <somiaj> that is what I'm unfamilar with, as greycat mentioned some boards can be quite fininky to boot
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3330 [20:26:40] <MaBunny> Ok ill go there
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3332 [20:26:49] <towo`> on such SoC you can't use an ios and boot from it
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3334 [20:26:58] <towo`> there is no bios on such devices
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3345 [20:29:07] <MaBunny> So will i hav to completeky removed android from it???
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3348 [20:29:35] <towo`> ...
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3352 [20:31:46] <MaBunny> How do ppl install linux on tablets???
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3357 [20:33:49] <towo`> MaBunny, ever heared about a search enginge like google?
3358 [20:34:11] <MaBunny> No, first time :0
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3363 [20:35:07] <towo`> installing linux on an android tablet is nothing, that you should do, if you are clueless
3364 [20:35:28] <towo`> there is no easy install guide
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3367 [20:35:55] <towo`> tablets are special devices, nothing like a normal pc or notebook
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3374 [20:36:47] <derstrom> true that, along with so-called 'post PC' ;)
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3381 [20:39:46] <jhutchins> MaBunny: Are you trying to experiemt with linux on touchscreen tablets with alternate architectures, or are you trying to create a useable/useful device?
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3386 [20:40:40] <MaBunny> Im trying to make a useful tablet running debian
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3389 [20:41:27] <jhutchins> MaBunny: Nope.
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3392 [20:41:40] <jhutchins> MaBunny: At best such things are in the research phase.
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3394 [20:41:56] <MaBunny> Ok
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3398 [20:42:48] <jhutchins> I was thinking about the fact that when I use android, I turn over a lot of trust to Google that I have historically been unwilling to turn over to Microsoft.
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3401 [20:43:23] <jhutchins> There's just something about Google's approach that makes me more comfortable, like maybe the first thing the DON'T do is show me a partneship Ad deal.
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3403 [20:44:04] <jhutchins> THey're far more likely to show me what I want - THEN maybe show me an ad.
3404 [20:44:17] <jhutchins> Sry -> Debian.
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3416 [20:47:16] <somiaj> jhutchins: yea google learned early on that the thing that is most valuable is data (not software), and they have fooled us to giving them free data (/me hides in offtopic now)
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3452 [21:07:38] <keltim> they're as bad as MS in a lot of ways, but they don't really play the lock in game as MS did
3453 [21:07:44] <keltim> or does
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3463 [21:12:42] <Brimonk> Does anyone have any experience with compiling a kernel the Debian way?
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3465 [21:13:03] <Brimonk> ie, compile the kernel, build a deb, and dpkg that thing?
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3468 [21:14:36] <towo`> what's the problem?
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3470 [21:14:50] <TomTomTosch> Brimonk: this will have all the answers you are looking for > replaced-url
3471 [21:14:52] <towo`> make deb-pkg does the job fine
3472 [21:15:53] <Brimonk> Thanks everyone. I'm currently looking at this: replaced-url
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3474 [21:16:35] <towo`> and why you think, you need a selfcompiled kernel?
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3478 [21:18:20] <Brimonk> I'm trying to get pci passthrough to work. Some of the information that I've been reading and looking at suggests that I need to enable PCI elements inside of the configuration.
3479 [21:18:57] <TomTomTosch> !make-kpkg
3480 [21:18:58] <dpkg> make-kpkg is no longer the recommended method for building kernel packages. See <kernel handbook> for current instructions. It can be used to make a debian package for a custom kernel. See man make-kpkg, <kp mantra>. NOTE it does not automatically create header packages, needed for module-assistant and dkms.
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3484 [21:19:28] <TomTomTosch> i have no idea why that's still in the docs.
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3491 [21:21:03] <Brimonk> All I know is that I found this from google. replaced-url
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3493 [21:21:17] <Brimonk> I had never seen that kernel handbook until I was given the link in here.
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3496 [21:22:00] <TomTomTosch> kernel handbook chapter 4.5 is probably what you want.
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3499 [21:23:12] <Brimonk> Is it recommended to use the package manager to get my kernel source, or can I just get if from kernel.org?
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3503 [21:23:32] <TomTomTosch> that's described in 4.6
3504 [21:23:49] <TomTomTosch> using the debian source is just a little bit easier.
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3512 [21:27:34] <Brimonk> It suggests to verify it. Whoops.
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3515 [21:29:31] <Brimonk> But other than that, that kernel handbook really helped! Thanks!
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3518 [21:30:41] <TomTomTosch> np x)
3519 [21:30:45] <frikinz> I remember debian webpage had a way to browse through package content and display included files, where was it?
3520 [21:30:56] <greycat> packages.debian.org
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3522 [21:31:51] <frikinz> replaced-url
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3531 [21:35:37] <mikejw> I can't install App::Ack from cpan :S
3532 [21:35:43] <mikejw> on jessie
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3535 [21:38:11] <abrotman> use a pastebin to show the channel
3536 [21:38:14] <abrotman> paste.debian.net
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3541 [21:39:45] <Brimonk> Is there a debian handbook for kvm related items?
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3549 [21:42:05] <somiaj> Brimonk: what do you mean by that? For a guest inside of kvm or for using debian as a host?
3550 [21:42:19] <Brimonk> using debian as a host.
3551 [21:42:38] <somiaj> I don't know of one, dosen't mean there isn't one. I picked up what little I know from the wiki
3552 [21:42:55] <somiaj> I personally would suggest looking at libvirt, and I think it has fairly good documentation
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3554 [21:43:50] <Brimonk> For my purposes it might just be better to look at the qemu/kvm way of doing things because I've somewhat gotten it all set up and whatnot.
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3556 [21:44:01] <Brimonk> I'm trying to virtualize windows for video games.
3557 [21:44:01] <frikinz> mikejw: probably this replaced-url
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3561 [21:44:23] <mikejw> abrotman: replaced-url
3562 [21:44:41] <ewew> Hi. Does someone use pam_lastlog.so for locking unused accounts ?
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3564 [21:45:03] <greycat> !anyone
3565 [21:45:03] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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3567 [21:45:42] <Brimonk> !search
3568 [21:45:42] <dpkg> Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See replaced-url
3569 [21:45:44] <abrotman> not me .. the channel ...
3570 [21:46:04] <ewew> How does the account part of pam_lastlog.so lock the account ? By ! before password hash ?
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3572 [21:46:51] <greycat> (1) why does it matter how? (2) I know of two ways you could find out: try it, or source dive.
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3575 [21:47:42] <abrotman> mikejw: it looks like a bad test, or some dependency is missing, but I'm not an expert in CPAN installation .. you might want to try dh_make_perl also
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3577 [21:47:58] <ewew> wait. no sure if im asking the right question.
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3580 [21:48:30] <Brimonk> Because we're always about questions, does anyone have experience with using a kvm(keyboard video mouse) switch to switch between hosts & guests on a single system?
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3591 [21:57:16] <user______> has anyone had luck with OpenGl on skylake integrated graphics?
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3597 [21:58:55] <jhutchins> Does cp have lower overhead than rsync? (I would expect so.)
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3599 [21:59:07] <jhutchins> Copying 400k 1k files.
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3603 [22:00:11] <sharkman> i just did apt-get install chromedriver... but its not on my PATH, and if i do "which chromedriver" it returns empty. why is that? where do i find where this package is? thanks!
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3605 [22:01:15] <sharkman> chromedriver is so mysterious!
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3611 [22:04:19] <greycat> sharkman: dpkg -L pkgname will show you all the files in it. Look (or grep) for /bin/ in that output, most likely.
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3617 [22:06:06] <sharkman> oh i see, chromedriver got installed in /usr/lib/chromium. so i can move this into /usr/bin/ so selenium can use it? and not break anything?
3618 [22:06:46] <ewew> well. If i understand the code correctly, then it does not modify /etc/shadow.
3619 [22:06:58] <greycat> I wouldn't move things around arbitrarily.
3620 [22:07:17] <greycat> Figure out how the thing is supposed to be used. That may involve looking for documentation, either in /usr/share/doc/pkgname/ or elsewhere.
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3622 [22:07:39] <greycat> Maybe it's a browser extension or something, in which case it should be invoked through the browser.
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3627 [22:10:13] <sharkman> hm okay
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3655 [22:22:01] <sharkman> thanks greycat its working now
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3662 [22:24:12] <cyres> emol.com
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3666 [22:26:52] <jhutchins> cyres: ?
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3668 [22:28:01] <jhutchins> Heh. My former client lost his domain.
3669 [22:29:02] <sm00th> hey i tried to send a bug email but it came back returned error. I tried 771400@bugs.debian.org
3670 [22:29:05] <sm00th> what did I do wrong?
3671 [22:30:26] <sm00th> Remote host said:
3672 [22:30:26] <sm00th> 550 Unknown or archived bug
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3676 [22:32:10] <petn-randall> sm00th: replaced-url
3677 [22:32:11] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3679 [22:32:37] <sm00th> oh its cause its closed?
3680 [22:32:45] <sm00th> oh well...
3681 [22:32:47] <petn-randall> sm00th: It's an archived bug, you'd have to unarchive it to write anything to it.
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3686 [22:34:28] <abrotman> dpkg: tell jhutchins about ot
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3688 [22:34:34] <asterismo> hi
3689 [22:34:43] <asterismo> i need help with ca-certs
3690 [22:34:54] <asterismo> i installed some free ssl certs from WoSign
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3692 [22:35:18] <asterismo> and i'm getting thois error when issuing a curl on localhost
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3697 [22:35:55] <asterismo> replaced-url
3698 [22:36:00] <asterismo> any ideas?
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3701 [22:37:39] <teraflops> asterismo: few
3702 [22:37:46] <petn-randall> asterismo: What is the exact command you're running?
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3705 [22:38:10] <asterismo> curl replaced-url
3706 [22:38:29] <petn-randall> asterismo: And you have a certificate issued for myurl.com?
3707 [22:39:00] <asterismo> curl replaced-url
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3709 [22:39:31] <asterismo> i'm running this in the machine hosting the site
3710 [22:39:52] <asterismo> the server does not recognizes the SSL as authenticate? what is this?
3711 [22:39:56] <asterismo> never happened to me before
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3716 [22:40:10] <jch> Hi.
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3718 [22:40:16] <vlad__> hello
3719 [22:40:18] <jch> Why does bsdutils depend on libsystemd0?
3720 [22:40:39] <vlad__> I'm having some sound problems :( namely, no sound at all
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3722 [22:41:16] <greycat> jch: /usr/bin/logger appears to be linked with it, for whatever reason
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3724 [22:41:28] <jch> greycat: looks like it.
3725 [22:41:43] <vlad__> everything looks ok in pavucontrol
3726 [22:41:59] <vlad__> even the volume meter goes up and down
3727 [22:42:10] <vlad__> but nothing comes out of the speakers
3728 [22:42:17] <vlad__> all volumes are max in alsamixer
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3730 [22:42:40] <jch> greycat: so it's really impossible to get rid of libsystemd now, even on an embedded system.
3731 [22:42:51] <jch> vlad__: are the speakers plugged in?
3732 [22:42:53] <sm00th> vlad__, are they plugged in the right hole? is the right output sound device selected?
3733 [22:42:59] <jch> Heh.
3734 [22:43:02] <greycat> It may require redoing several packages. You could talk to the Devuan folks about it.
3735 [22:43:23] <jch> Devuan on armhf?
3736 [22:43:24] <teraflops> asterismo: also if the certificate is ok, are you doing nat there? many routers does not do nat loopback, or just youre missing the hostname locally (intranet) or it just that hostname is different from inside the lan
3737 [22:43:31] <vlad__> jch, sm00th: yeah, it's the right hole
3738 [22:43:39] <vlad__> at least it was in windows/ubuntu
3739 [22:43:57] <asterismo> teraflops: no nat
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3741 [22:44:09] <sm00th> vlad__, right sound devcie selected. stereo duplex or w/e?
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3744 [22:45:05] <vlad__> sm00th: yeah "Analog Stereo Duplex"
3745 [22:45:13] <sm00th> vlad__, what sound device?
3746 [22:46:03] <vlad__> so this is in the "Configuration" pane of pavucontrol, it says "Build-in Audio"
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3748 [22:47:02] <vlad__> in lspci I see 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:a170] (rev 31)
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3750 [22:47:23] <sm00th> vlad__, what about in output devices tab
3751 [22:47:41] <vlad__> sm00th: Built-in Analog Stereo
3752 [22:47:41] <sm00th> does it still say build audio analog stereo, and if so what port?
3753 [22:47:45] <sm00th> what port?
3754 [22:47:55] <vlad__> Port is "Line Out (plugged in)"
3755 [22:48:12] <sm00th> go to playback tab and check the app that is playing audio
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3757 [22:48:46] <vlad__> it says Chromium
3758 [22:48:51] <vlad__> volume meter is going up and down
3759 [22:48:53] <jch> Any advice on running Debian on a board with no RTC? I'm running ntp, of course, but the board runs in 1970 until the routing protocol converges. (On OpenWRT, the time is set at boot to the filesystem modification time.)
3760 [22:49:48] <jch> Fake-hwclock package?
3761 [22:49:58] <sm00th> vlad__, hmm nothing goes up and down on mine. but im out of ideas
3762 [22:50:11] <sm00th> vlad__, are you using kde?
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3765 [22:50:30] <vlad__> sm00th: uh, I'm using openbox I think
3766 [22:50:43] <sm00th> oh I don't know mucha bout openbox
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3768 [22:50:59] <sm00th> keep asking someone else will help you out
3769 [22:51:05] <vlad__> sm00th: do you think kde would make a difference?
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3774 [22:51:34] <frikinz> jch: that's what the raspi are using to save time in /etc and restore it on boot
3775 [22:51:36] <sm00th> in kde i would of suggested to right click on the audio icon in panel and go to audio setup. and make sure you have
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3778 [22:51:56] <sm00th> the right audio device on top in device preference tab
3779 [22:52:06] <Battagli1> oy :-)
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3782 [22:52:30] <jch> frikinz: ah, cool. If it's good enough for the RPi, it's good enough for me.
3783 [22:52:45] <vlad__> it's true that I have a second audio device GK106 HDMI Audio Controller
3784 [22:52:56] <sm00th> you can turn that off and see if it makes a diff
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3786 [22:52:59] <jch> Are you aware of any other good ideas I could steal from the RPi folks? I'm running a board that's somewhat similar.
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3788 [22:53:09] <vlad__> how do I turn it off?
3789 [22:53:24] <sm00th> in the configuration tab you had open before of pavucontrol
3790 [22:53:52] <sm00th> what i was referring to in device preferences of kde audio output is the 51, stereo, gk106, dummy out put. i put stereo and 5.1 at the top
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3793 [22:54:26] <frikinz> jch: maybe this replaced-url
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3795 [22:54:42] <vlad__> it's interesting, whenever I change the profile in configuration the youtube video freezes for a moment
3796 [22:54:52] <sm00th> vlad__, and you are nothing says mm in alsamixer
3797 [22:54:57] <asterismo> so any ideas whats happening with wosign cert?
3798 [22:55:13] <vlad__> sm00th: not sure what you mean
3799 [22:55:14] <jch> frikinz: not needed, I'm running headless (just a few routing daemons) and I've got a gig of RAM.
3800 [22:55:26] <jch> But thanks.
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3802 [22:56:14] <sm00th> vlad__, type alsamixer in terminal. press f6, select your internal audio card. then make sure none of the levels say mm under neath.
3803 [22:56:21] <sm00th> if they do press m to unmute
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3806 [22:57:00] <frikinz> jch: I also have a gig for kodi, tor, bind, nginx, postfix and the swap is just unused (but there just in case ;-)
3807 [22:57:15] <vlad__> sm00th: uh, they all say MM underneath
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3810 [22:57:22] <sm00th> select each and press m to unmute
3811 [22:57:26] <sm00th> use the arrow keys
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3813 [22:58:02] <sm00th> once you need is master, headphone, pcm, front, surround center lfe etc...
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3815 [22:58:33] <sm00th> when they are unmuted they say 00 instead of mm
3816 [22:58:36] <vlad__> sm00th: ok, got rid of all the MMs, but nothing happened
3817 [22:58:41] <vlad__> they all say OO now
3818 [22:58:46] <greycat> Use the up arrow to make the 00 into a bigger number?
3819 [22:58:47] <jch> It's a dedicated router. It's nice hardware, but it came with a horrible, horrible hacked up Linux. I've tried to put Alpine on it, failed, while Debian took me just a few hours. I'm loving dbootstrap.
3820 [22:59:10] <sm00th> greycat, it always say 00 no matter the volume
3821 [22:59:19] <jch> Unfortunately, I'm stuck with an antique version of Linux. (I've got the sources, but I'm not going to even attempt building their mess.)
3822 [22:59:46] <sm00th> vlad__, are the levels up with up arrow as greycat said?
3823 [23:00:00] <hassoon> heck not sure what i've done
3824 [23:00:02] <hassoon> is it normal that /boot/efi is empty? debian can't run, and fortunately i have fedora around
3825 [23:00:03] <vlad__> yeah all levels are maxed out
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3827 [23:00:13] <sm00th> and still no sound? hmm
3828 [23:00:13] <teraflops> asterismo: run curl with the --verbose option
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3831 [23:00:29] <jch> greycat, sm00th, are you not going to ask him for log files? Like the output of amixer and friends?
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3834 [23:00:49] <sm00th> vlad__, type pulseaudio -k in terminal, then pulseaudio --start
3835 [23:00:56] <sm00th> and if that don't work then jch will help you
3836 [23:00:57] <greycat> I'm not going to ask. You can if you want.
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3841 [23:01:30] <cdb23ax> hello i have a question is the VX855/VX875 Chrome 9 HCM Integrated Graphics driver in debian jessie?
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3846 [23:02:43] <jch> sm00th, greycat: no, I won't, you're the nice guys over here. I'm the grumpy old man who makes nasty comments in the background.
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3849 [23:03:07] <sm00th> jch, i'm out of ideas
3850 [23:03:12] <asterismo> teraflops: replaced-url
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3852 [23:03:23] <petn-randall> asterismo: I'm guessing that the intermediate certificate is missing. Did you follow their instructions? Is you webserver sending the domain + intermediate cert on handshake? You can use 'openssl s_client' for that, check the man page for details.
3853 [23:03:26] <jch> k, let me scan through the discussion.
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3856 [23:04:31] <jch> vlad__: do you have a known-good wav file to test with?
3857 [23:05:03] <vlad__> sm00th: restarting pulseaudio didn't help
3858 [23:05:08] <vlad__> jch: yeah I think so
3859 [23:05:57] <vlad__> yeah got a wav
3860 [23:06:00] <sm00th> you can do speaker-test -c 2 in terminal too and see if anything play
3861 [23:06:15] <jch> Ok. Please stop pulseaudio: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
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3863 [23:06:56] <jch> Now install alsa-utils if it's not already installed
3864 [23:07:01] <jch> then do two things:
3865 [23:07:02] <vlad__> jch: uh, I don't have /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
3866 [23:07:39] <jch> vlad__: sudo killall pulseaudio
3867 [23:07:43] <vlad__> pulseaudio stop > E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Too many arguments.
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3869 [23:07:49] <sm00th> pulseaudio -k
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3871 [23:07:53] <jch> sm00th: please help, I don't run pulseaudio myself
3872 [23:08:04] <sm00th> lol
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3874 [23:08:09] <jch> Now do two things:
3875 [23:08:26] <jch> (1) run alsamixer, and check that everything is maxed up and nothing is muted. (Press "m" to unmute)
3876 [23:08:45] <jch> (2) run "aplay /path/to/file.wav"
3877 [23:09:51] <jch> frikinz: thanks, it looks like fake-hwclock has solved my problem quite nicely.
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3879 [23:10:29] <jch> Time to benchmark how many packets per second this little board can push.
3880 [23:10:30] <vlad__> hm, "Line" was muted and at 0
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3884 [23:11:29] <vlad__> still no sound from the wav
3885 [23:11:45] <greycat> !alsa checklist
3886 [23:11:45] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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3894 [23:13:01] <vlad__> 1) I am in the audio group 4) yes 5) no
3895 [23:13:21] <jch> What does sudo fuser /dev/snd/* say?
3896 [23:13:38] <vlad__> /dev/snd/controlC0: 1179 2743
3897 [23:13:38] <vlad__> /dev/snd/controlC1: 2743
3898 [23:13:44] <jch> (Remember never to type sudo something unless you've checked the manpage.)
3899 [23:13:52] <jch> ps 1179 2743
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3901 [23:14:21] <vlad__> 1179 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/volti
3902 [23:14:28] <vlad__> 2743 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
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3905 [23:15:01] <jch> Pulseaudio is still running, and you've got a python script speaking to the audio hardware.
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3911 [23:15:49] <vlad__> ok actually killalled pulseaudio
3912 [23:16:06] <jch> Plus it looks to me like you've got two audio cards in your box. Could you please type "aplay --list-devices"?
3913 [23:16:10] <teraflops> asterismo: it works ok from outside, so it's either the intranet or just that machine
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3915 [23:16:43] <vlad__> yeah I also have an nvidia card
3916 [23:16:49] <asterismo> i just edited the vhost, the chain file was missing
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3919 [23:16:58] <vlad__> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC1150 Analog [ALC1150 Analog]
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3921 [23:17:10] <vlad__> card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
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3924 [23:18:27] <jch> Please run "aplay -L", and check that default points at the right device.
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3926 [23:19:36] <vlad__> "Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server"
3927 [23:20:09] <jch> sm00th: your turn, I refuse to deal with pulseaudio. I've told you I'm old and grumpy.
3928 [23:20:27] <vlad__> jch: :(
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3931 [23:20:38] <vlad__> should i disable pulseaudio?
3932 [23:20:46] <vlad__> I have no particular attachment to it
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3935 [23:20:57] <greycat> The issue is more likely that it's choosing the wrong card.
3936 [23:21:00] <vlad__> nor do I really understand where it fits in with alsa and the rest
3937 [23:21:19] <greycat> I had a system with two cards, but it's not my current system, so alas I do not have the file I had to create to tell alsa which card to use.
3938 [23:21:22] <vlad__> jch: I appreciate your help though :)
3939 [23:21:27] <teraflops> vlad__: it uses to be the opposite aka less painful than alsa
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3945 [23:22:29] <otyugh> pulseaudio is usually less painful than alsa to configure if you have a system with enought ressource to handle it. The frontend pavucontrol works and is quite easy to use most of the time. Still there is case where it fails badly and you want to turn back to alsa, but it's quite rare.
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3948 [23:23:01] <vlad__> otyugh: well according to pavucontrol everything is ok
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3950 [23:23:29] <teraflops> vlad__: the issue is?
3951 [23:23:37] <vlad__> no sound
3952 [23:23:40] <otyugh> what means "everything is okay" ?
3953 [23:24:03] <otyugh> Do you see sound passing ? Volume moving and all ?
3954 [23:24:05] <teraflops> vlad__: please paste the output of pactl list sinks
3955 [23:24:09] <vlad__> Built in Audio Port is Line out (plugged in)
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3957 [23:24:15] <vlad__> volume meter moves up and down
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3960 [23:24:59] <vlad__> whats the preferred paste site here?
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3962 [23:25:06] <greycat> replaced-url
3963 [23:25:14] <teraflops> when I mean paste I mean to a pastebin site (please avoid pastebin.com thanks in advance)
3964 [23:25:25] <teraflops> oh
3965 [23:25:42] <otyugh> My guess is that you have plugged something bad x)
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3967 [23:25:49] <vlad__> replaced-url
3968 [23:26:01] <teraflops> or just the default sink is the wrong one
3969 [23:26:05] <vlad__> teraflops: yeah I don't like pastebin either
3970 [23:26:13] <vlad__> in #haskell they use lpaste
3971 [23:26:21] <modwizcode> I typically use gist because I've always got github logged in.
3972 [23:26:43] <teraflops> vlad__: which sink is the correct one?
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3974 [23:27:06] <vlad__> Sink #1
3975 [23:27:15] <teraflops> vlad__: the hdmi one or the built in one?
3976 [23:27:21] <vlad__> built in
3977 [23:27:35] <vlad__> although I don't hear anything coming out of the hdmi either
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3981 [23:28:17] <teraflops> ok, try pactl set-default-sink and press tab (it autocompletes) till it picks the alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo and then press enter
3982 [23:28:40] <greycat> teraflops: this assumes he is using some bash-completion package, right? That's not a default.
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3986 [23:29:41] <vlad__> I do have bash completion
3987 [23:29:41] <teraflops> what a shame, szh does it by default in debian jessie
3988 [23:29:45] <teraflops> zsh*
3989 [23:29:45] <vlad__> but that didn't help
3990 [23:30:10] <vlad__> pavucontrol registers sound coming through built in audio
3991 [23:30:30] <teraflops> please paste pactl list sinks output again
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3995 [23:31:43] <vlad__> replaced-url
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3997 [23:32:26] <teraflops> idle again hmm
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3999 [23:32:47] <vlad__> well I killed the audio playing before listing...
4000 [23:32:50] <vlad__> let me do it again
4001 [23:32:55] <teraflops> ^
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4003 [23:33:31] <vlad__> ok now sink #1 is RUNNING
4004 [23:33:35] <teraflops> ah
4005 [23:33:44] <teraflops> do you get sound?
4006 [23:33:48] <vlad__> nope
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4009 [23:34:05] <teraflops> vlad__: do you have pavucontrol installed?
4010 [23:34:15] <vlad__> yeah pavucontrol is running
4011 [23:34:21] <vlad__> and showing the volume going up and down
4012 [23:34:28] <vlad__> for built-in audio
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4015 [23:35:54] <jmss> Hi, I'm not being able to run dhclient at boot. I already configured /etc/network/interfaces to automatically bring eth0 up, but when the systems boots dhclient did not run.
4016 [23:36:38] <PaulePanter> Hi. How can I find all bug reports submitted by folk with an intel.com address?
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4020 [23:36:58] <teraflops> vlad__: in playback window can you expand this way the sink-input? replaced-url
4021 [23:37:02] <PaulePanter> I am interested in the hetzner.de.
4022 [23:37:11] <PaulePanter> > Allerdings haben wir weder auf die Kernelentwicklung noch auf die Distributionen einen Einfluss.
4023 [23:37:23] <PaulePanter> … is what their support team answered me.
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4026 [23:38:28] <vlad__> teraflops: yeah, it shows me my two sound cards
4027 [23:38:33] <petn-randall> PaulePanter: replaced-url
4028 [23:38:38] <vlad__> with built-in audio selected
4029 [23:38:39] <teraflops> vlad__: so pick the correct one?
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4031 [23:39:01] <petn-randall> PaulePanter: You can search with "submitted by:" and then an e-mail address.
4032 [23:39:03] <vlad__> neither selection yields any sound
4033 [23:39:23] <teraflops> vlad__: which player are you using?
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4035 [23:39:40] <vlad__> vlc
4036 [23:39:55] <petn-randall> PaulePanter: Not sure what a bug report filed from hetzner.de would prove or disprove, though.
4037 [23:39:56] <teraflops> please try with other player
4038 [23:40:26] <teraflops> try a web browser or mpv or mpd or mplayer
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4041 [23:41:58] <vlad__> tried with web browser and aplay
4042 [23:42:06] <vlad__> no sound
4043 [23:42:36] <whitePawn> Anyone know any dancy rooms
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4045 [23:43:10] <PaulePanter> petn-randall: Thanks!
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4048 [23:43:45] <teraflops> vlad__: well, open alsamixer and check the output is not muted
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4050 [23:44:49] <whitePawn> oh
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4057 [23:46:43] <Brigo> vlad__, try this link: replaced-url
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4064 [23:48:51] <teraflops> vlad__: give try to alsamixer looks like the output is just muted
4065 [23:48:58] <teraflops> a*
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4068 [23:49:26] <meoblast001> hello. does an APT purge on postgres delete any databases?
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4072 [23:50:16] <petn-randall> meoblast001: yes
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4077 [23:51:29] <meoblast001> hm okay. i have this problem here: replaced-url
4078 [23:51:53] <meoblast001> it suggests purging the package over APT.... is there possibly a way to do this without destroying my DBs?
4079 [23:52:02] <vlad__> teraflops: everything looks ok in alsamixer...
4080 [23:52:14] <teraflops> press m
4081 [23:52:56] <teraflops> play some music then open alsamixer and check nothing is muted
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4083 [23:53:07] <teraflops> m toggles mute
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4086 [23:54:11] <petn-randall> meoblast001: Yeah, actually debugging the issue. What does 'pg_lsclusters' give you on output? Put it on replaced-url
4087 [23:54:31] <teraflops> vlad__: f6 for choosing the sound card
4088 [23:54:34] <meoblast001> replaced-url
4089 [23:54:39] <meoblast001> this claims that a purge does not delete databases
4090 [23:54:53] <meoblast001> so now i have no idea who is right
4091 [23:55:26] <petn-randall> meoblast001: This is #debian, you're looking at a solution for Ubuntu. They might do things differently; we don't know.
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4094 [23:55:55] <petn-randall> meoblast001: If in doubt, make a backup and then try it and see.
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4096 [23:56:21] <vlad__> teraflops: yeah everything looks fine in alsamixer...
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4098 [23:56:34] <teraflops> then I have no more ideas sorry
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4105 [23:57:26] <meoblast001> petn-randall: i have a debian system, but would this specific detail really differ on debian/ubuntu systems?
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4107 [23:57:38] <meoblast001> i find it very hard to imagine they would change the way the postgres package purges
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