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this is #debian an IRC -Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)
0 [00:00:22] <CluelessGuy> markybob Thanks a lot! Will use the 3.7GB one then. any ideas if there are proper drivers for my AMD Radeon 7900?
1 [00:00:26] <CluelessGuy> *7950
2 [00:01:02] <cruncher> ghormoon, you want to remove a key?
3 [00:01:12] <CluelessGuy> btw markybob the image "debian-8.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" you linked me, really is Gnome?
4 [00:01:36] <kejsi564> markybob it works !
5 [00:01:38] <markybob> CluelessGuy: probably firmware-amd-graphics in non-free. worry about it after install
6 [00:01:39] <kejsi564> thank you
7 [00:01:44] <kejsi564> so i did unrar it
8 [00:01:50] <markybob> CluelessGuy: yeah
9 [00:01:51] <kejsi564> and question for you
10 [00:01:58] <CluelessGuy> markybob ok thanks and thanks again!
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12 [00:02:20] <kejsi564> did you heard about ai file ?
13 [00:02:25] <CluelessGuy> can't wait to ditch my damn windows forever. finally.
14 [00:02:40] <kejsi564> its basically some kind of image
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16 [00:02:47] <kejsi564> i never heard about it
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18 [00:02:54] <kejsi564> i cant open it
19 [00:02:55] <ghormoon> cruncher: there are 3 people with 3 keys and I want to have info who has which in case of revocation needed later - which keyslot to nuke
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21 [00:03:32] <ghormoon> but luksKeyAdd -v --debug shows it :)
22 [00:03:37] <ghormoon> so that's solved
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24 [00:05:30] <CluelessGuy> hope i can hop onto irc when debian gnome is installed without any problems
25 [00:05:43] <kejsi564> markybob any idea about this ?
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27 [00:05:56] <markybob> kejsi564: no
28 [00:06:06] <kejsi564> oh ok
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31 [00:06:43] <CluelessGuy> darn it my dl from the debian server markybob linked always aborts after a few hundred MB :/
32 [00:06:45] <cruncher> ghormoon, you can also open the device with parameter --test-passphrase, which will not activate the device but only verify the passphrase
33 [00:06:50] <CluelessGuy> someone doesn't want me to install it lol
34 [00:06:54] <cruncher> like that you should be able to see which was what
35 [00:07:01] <markybob> CluelessGuy: use the torrent then
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37 [00:07:23] <markybob> CluelessGuy: replaced-url
38 [00:07:31] <CluelessGuy> wow thanks!°
39 [00:07:42] <cruncher> ghormoon, but you dont need to specifiy the slot, just enter the passphrase of the related person and it will delete the correct slot
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41 [00:08:10] <ghormoon> cruncher: but I don't know the other passphrases, this is a fallback in case of stolen laptop etc.
42 [00:08:24] <ghormoon> so I can nuke the keys without knowing them, I don't know keys of the other people
43 [00:08:33] <cruncher> ok
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62 [00:17:12] <cruncher> leetcool, still looking for 1.1? :)
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64 [00:18:19] <kejsi564> markybob gimp actually supports that file type
65 [00:18:25] <kejsi564> it just did not show the preview
66 [00:18:32] <kejsi564> thank you for eveyrything
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69 [00:21:19] <leetcool> cruncher, yes for learning things
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72 [00:21:35] <cruncher> leetcool, i can give you the disks
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75 [00:21:41] <cruncher> i think there is no iso of buzz
76 [00:22:01] <cruncher> leetcool, you can download them here: replaced-url
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78 [00:23:28] <leetcool> cruncher, thank for that link. can you guide me to get it running in any virtual emulator or something like that?
79 [00:23:37] <leetcool> *thanks
80 [00:23:50] <cruncher> just use virtualbox, it can hanlde floppy images
81 [00:24:00] <cruncher> and its quite an easy one
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84 [00:25:24] <cruncher> on the other hand, im not sure if it can emulate 386/486 and such
85 [00:25:43] <leetcool> which floppy image shall i select ? there are too many bin files
86 [00:25:57] <cruncher> you can also try qemu, but i coult tell you all you need to do here, you would have to google for some instructions
87 [00:26:04] <cruncher> *but i couldnt
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89 [00:26:38] <cruncher> leetcool, just read the install file
90 [00:26:41] <cruncher> its all there
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94 [00:28:37] <leetcool> thanks cruncher i'm reading
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147 [00:59:46] <SimbaLion> If I do apt-get remove package --purge, and rm -rf /etc/package, why doesn't apt-get install package re-install the folder under /etc?
148 [01:00:16] <markybob> !confmiss
149 [01:00:16] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
150 [01:00:37] <SimbaLion> thanks
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182 [01:15:49] <fryguy128> I installed the package libxml2 which should have installed the command xmlcatalog. Every time I try to use this command however, bash returns a command not found. Any idea what to do from here? I'm running Sparky Linux i686.
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189 [01:19:26] <nkuttler> !tell about apt-file
190 [01:19:32] <nkuttler> !tell fryguy128 about apt-file
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192 [01:19:42] <nkuttler> !find bin/xmlcatalog
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195 [01:20:45] <jmcnaught> fryguy128: it's also quite possible that Sparky has done something different than Debian, which is the reason that derivatives like Sparky are not supported here. Sparky probably has its own channel
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207 [01:27:16] <fryguy128> I found the problem. The command changed somewhere along the way. Thanks
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257 [02:05:01] <JustinHitla> I installed some addon in firefox, and then I switched profile, how to get that addon to another profile without installing in every profile ?
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263 [02:07:18] <teraflops> JustinHitla: how many profiles do you have? like 50?
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274 [02:13:36] <kcirick> Hi, I have a problem on openbox where right click on desktop doesn't show the menu... I pinpointed the issue being connected with scim. It also seems that scim is being launched somewhere but I dont know where... can someone help me with this?
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277 [02:14:11] <roger`> does anyone uses Ssh-HPN here ?
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295 [02:19:14] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: lots of addons are available as Debian packages, look for packages that start with xul-ext-
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308 [02:24:09] <VladimirVolkov> Эээ, куды лошадь запрягать?
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310 [02:24:25] <markybob> !ru
311 [02:24:25] <dpkg> Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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313 [02:26:08] <VladimirVolkov> markybob, are you afraid of russian speakers?
314 [02:26:25] <markybob> terrified. or it's just off topic in here. pick one.
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322 [02:28:27] <VladimirVolkov> markybob, I guess ! means 'not'.
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326 [02:29:52] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: it is a symbol that trigers a factoid from the bot dpkg
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328 [02:32:06] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, I'm a great eng speaker. And I don't need any factoid from the bot dpkg
329 [02:32:41] <markybob> well then. this will go far.
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331 [02:34:21] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: It was mearly trying to point you to a russian speaking channel if you wanted one. If you have a question about debian, it is prefered you ask in english here
332 [02:35:16] <VladimirVolkov> I want to learn how to compile apps in debian from the sources. Is there any wiki page?
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335 [02:36:04] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: do you want to just compile a current debian source package into a .deb, or make your own .deb, or just how would you compile/install an app that is not part of debian?
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338 [02:37:19] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: for info on making .deb packages, the debian new matainers guide is a good start.
339 [02:37:45] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, I want to download src code of chosen app from stable tree and to compile and install it on my 8.5 debian
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341 [02:38:23] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: can you clarify what you mean by stable tree? What app are we talking about?
342 [02:38:24] <markybob> sound like you need to read their README
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344 [02:40:04] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: provided you install the app in /usr/local or /home, you can usually just follow the comiple instructions from the upstream source.
345 [02:40:37] <somiaj> and I mean /home/username
346 [02:41:22] <beatnick> hello guys, i'm a new debian user, and i need some help.
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348 [02:41:27] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: There are some useful tools like stow or check-install to help manage app compiled from source (many choose to do this over building the app into a .deb apcakge)
349 [02:41:29] <beatnick> apt-get install akregator
350 [02:41:44] <beatnick> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
351 [02:41:55] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, stable brach of apps. Any apps) I got you. Thanks! Also I found the debian new matainers guide Is good for me)
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353 [02:42:16] <beatnick> anybody knows how i fix this?
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355 [02:42:33] <somiaj> beatnick: what version of debian are you running. Care to paste the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy akregator at paste.debian.net
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357 [02:43:00] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, OK. I guess stow and check-install are gonna help later) Thanks!
358 [02:43:05] <beatnick> somiaj, it's PurismOS.
359 [02:43:21] <simonlnu> !based on debian
360 [02:43:21] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
361 [02:43:37] <somiaj> beatnick: well this is a #debian channel, it would be best if you use the support of PurismOS to figure out what is wrong with yours or their sources.
362 [02:45:29] <beatnick> Purism doesn't really has a very slow support (it's a startup), and their OS is debian based, so i thought i would get an answer here.
363 [02:46:12] <markybob> beatnick: thing is, even if we wanted to, we cant and might cause more harm. we don't know what they've changed or what's different. it'd actually be wrong for us to assume.
364 [02:46:43] <JustinHitla> anyone knows how to delete cookies in firefox ?
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366 [02:47:05] <markybob> JustinHitla: did you try google? c'mon
367 [02:47:12] <HallerH> firefox is nor part of debian GNU/Linux,please go to a different channel;)
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369 [02:47:14] <JustinHitla> I usually do "> .mozilla/firefox/38gbjzmh.new/cookies.sqlite"
370 [02:47:21] <markybob> HallerH: it is
371 [02:47:27] <beatnick> JustinHitla, preferences, privacy, delete cookies.
372 [02:47:39] <JustinHitla> is this "> .mozilla/firefox/38gbjzmh.new/cookies.sqlite" a safe ?
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377 [02:48:39] <HallerH> in debian gnu/linux 8 it's still branded as iceweasel, isn't it?;)
378 [02:49:18] <markybob> HallerH: not anymore
379 [02:49:21] <somiaj> HallerH: it will switch sometime, and if you want, you can get the packages from mozilla.debian.net
380 [02:49:21] <markybob> ,v firefox-esr
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382 [02:49:23] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- stretch: 45.1.1esr-1+b1; wheezy-security: 45.2.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 45.2.0esr-1
383 [02:49:30] <somiaj> oh yea, there was a recent security fix that changed it over
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386 [02:52:05] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
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388 [02:52:27] <HallerH> but firefox is just in the backports and as far as i know only the stable branch is considert to be the real "debian gnu/linux" distribution, isn't it?
389 [02:52:44] <somiaj> HallerH: no, it is now in jessie via debian security
390 [02:52:46] <markybob> HallerH: no. didnt you see what i had judd paste? jessie security
391 [02:53:00] <somiaj> HallerH: if you have security.debian.org sources your iceweasel package should automatically install firefox-esr
392 [02:53:01] <HallerH> the side says "apt-get install -t jessie-backports firefox"
393 [02:53:17] <HallerH> ok, thanks
394 [02:53:53] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: ctrl+shift+delete in firefox (and chromium) brings up the clear history dialogue where you can clear cookies
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397 [02:54:12] <winterss> hi
398 [02:54:41] <jmcnaught> the recent iceweasel to firefox-esr transition in jessie does mean that you need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of just an "upgrade"
399 [02:55:36] <JustinHitla> jmcnaught: thanks
400 [02:55:55] <JustinHitla> jmcnaught: I think I will use "destruction" addon
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405 [02:56:25] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: firefox also has an option to delete cookies on exit
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408 [02:57:14] <JustinHitla> right, but I prefer delete without exiting firefox
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411 [02:58:05] <JustinHitla> can come in handy when you registered on some web site and want reload the web site again but without old cookies from that web site
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413 [02:59:25] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: you don't need an add-on for that in Firefox either. Get to the page info with Ctrl+i, click on security, click on view cookies
414 [02:59:37] <HallerH> i use the delete cookies on exit-option, too
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417 [03:00:49] <HallerH> but lot's of people use the "self destructing cookies"-plugin
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428 [03:06:40] <LtL> how can i get iceweasel to update, apt-cache policy iceweasel > replaced-url
429 [03:07:09] <LtL> its being held back, jessie 8.5
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432 [03:07:24] <jmcnaught> LtL: this one needs an "apt-get dist-upgrade" it will make iceweasel a transitional package and install firefox-esr
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434 [03:08:00] <LtL> jmcnaught: ah, that didn't occur to me.. thanks :)
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439 [03:10:15] <kcirick> Hi... I'm trying to type an accented character, but I'm not sure if I have it set up correctly... I think I have AltGr set to ralt, but when I do AltGr+"+a doesn't give me "a umlaut".. How can I check if AltGr is set correctly?
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462 [03:34:03] <kcirick> i guess everyone's out partying tonight... it's not usually this quiet in here is it?
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467 [03:35:06] <cruncher> i guess all people here are more linux than party :D
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469 [03:35:36] <jmcnaught> kcirick: hey, it does get quiet sometimes. i assume if someone knew they would say something. i switch to a different keyboard layout when i need accents
470 [03:36:24] <pingouin> debian is dead :) and irc more dead :)
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472 [03:36:36] <kcirick> jmcnaught: I found a typo in my config, so it's all good
473 [03:36:55] <cruncher> pingouin, debian dead? how can you say that
474 [03:36:59] <polyzen> long live debian
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476 [03:37:09] <kcirick> i think he meant this channel
477 [03:37:27] <pingouin> joking guys :)
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479 [03:38:05] <markybob> it's still not dead. it's just polite to say nothing if you have nothing to add. imagine 1500 people saying "i dont know"
480 [03:38:54] <cruncher> :D
481 [03:39:02] <cruncher> honestly, it would be fun to see that once :)
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483 [03:39:23] <LtL> heh, true
484 [03:39:24] <kcirick> markybob: there's usually some off-topic conversation here, no?
485 [03:39:35] <pingouin> there is a channel for that
486 [03:39:36] <markybob> kcirick: that's what #debian-offtopic is for
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488 [03:40:35] <kcirick> Heh, didn't know there was a separate channel for offtopic. Good to know... I think I'll waste time there instead
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565 [04:33:44] <wlan2> So, I was cooking a livecd and thought, how can I possibly make the squashfs smaller?
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567 [04:34:20] <wlan2> Any ideas?
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596 [05:01:12] <RippyDippy> hey guys, does anyone here know how best to funnell all internet traffic through TOR
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598 [05:02:26] <LtL> RippyDippy: get a VPS, not a debian topic sorry
599 [05:02:55] <RippyDippy> LtL: No need to apologize, this is usually the first place I check
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603 [05:04:05] <LtL> RippyDippy: actually a VPN will work
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606 [05:04:57] <RippyDippy> LtL: Any suggested vpns. I use PIA on other machines, but never tried getting it going on a linux box
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609 [05:05:32] <LtL> RippyDippy: no idea really
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611 [05:06:43] <RippyDippy> LtL: I'll start with openvpn I guess
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616 [05:09:49] <LtL> RippyDippy: good luck, g'night :)
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650 [05:41:34] <crafty1> RippyDippy: If you have PIA you can get it going easy on GNU/Linux. GO to their downloads page and download the OpenVPN config files. you can use them on any distro
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652 [05:43:36] <RippyDippy> crafty1: Yeah I figured it out. took 5 minutes. I just needed to remember my damn auth info
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719 [06:17:43] <iSlayWyverns> Download Debian8.5-mate.iso -> bootable usb -> enter Live mode -> install phase -> proceeds to about half -> message: please insert CDrom Debian Jessie snapshot...
720 [06:17:45] <iSlayWyverns> What?!
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725 [06:20:14] <iSlayWyverns> why is it so fucking bothersome to install the system? netinst doesnt include the wlan0 firmware, download different firmware, live-cd proceeds with error msg and shit
726 [06:20:43] <iSlayWyverns> just wtf? does this have to do with laws & copyrights? concluding to so many different isos?
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728 [06:21:00] <RippyDippy> odd question. But I thought rofi in the debian repos?
729 [06:21:06] * Hatzui Selling server spoofing DDOS contact me! :)
730 [06:22:45] <Strife89> iSlayWyverns: I think the short version is that the Debian philosophy is to adhere to free, libre open source software as much as possible. Proprietary firmware blobs just don't fit that bill.
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733 [06:23:55] * Hatzui Selling server spoofing 450GBPS contact me! :D
734 [06:24:25] <Strife89> iSlayWyverns: "Only software that complies with the DFSG is allowed in the main distribution of Debian." From replaced-url
735 [06:26:14] <Strife89> Some countries and companies have strict legal restrictions on distribution of "non-free" software, so there are legit reasons to have things like WiFi firmware split off.
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755 [06:45:32] <hiexpo> Hi all I havebeen having a problem when ever I go to a page with videos iceweasel crashes what's the deal?
756 [06:46:50] <somiaj> hiexpo: I'm unsure there, but I would upgrade to the newest firefox-esr that is now available to jessie via security and see if you have the same problem.
757 [06:46:57] <somiaj> hiexpo: I would also check what flash plugin you have running
758 [06:47:17] <somiaj> or if you are using html5
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761 [06:50:59] <hiexpo> somiaj, firefox-esr
762 [06:51:07] <hiexpo> ?
763 [06:51:24] <ryouma> your iceweasel might ahve already upgraded to it
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765 [06:51:26] <ryouma> i think
766 [06:51:52] <ryouma> apt-cache can tell you
767 [06:54:04] <hiexpo> I am using latest flash and yes it did what s\was thatabout html5
768 [06:55:10] <somiaj> hiexpo: if you have security sources you should run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
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770 [06:57:16] <awwal> hiexpo, iceweasel (firefox-esr, now) crashes bcoz of the outdated adobe flash, almost sure :P
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772 [06:57:35] <hiexpo> somiaj, okay thats probally it cause i did dist upgrade and it's doing icewheasel and esr
773 [06:57:42] <awwal> try pepperflash + freshplayer
774 [06:57:47] <hiexpo> somiaj, thank you
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777 [07:02:48] <somiaj> hiexpo: it may not fix your problem, but I would at least debug the new security update as opposed to the older iceweasel.
778 [07:03:40] <hiexpo> somiaj, okay thanks
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782 [07:09:15] <hiexpo> somiaj, that fixed it thanks
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822 [08:12:29] <ByteStorm> guys how do i use lm-sensors???
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825 [08:17:17] <jmcnaught> ByteStorm: did you read /usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/README.Debian.gz?
826 [08:17:32] <ByteStorm> no
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846 [08:45:04] <dka> I am trying to run #postgresql using #docker and #marathon. The #postgresql server fail to start because of the original `shared_buffers` value `256MB`. I have to decrease this value to `10MB` to be able to run my container. I have allocated in #mesos 2GB of RAM for this instance. Looking at #postgresql documentation, the correct value should be 1/4 of the RAM meaning to me `512MB`. 1) Can anyone tell me how to set this value correctly ? 2) What
847 [08:45:08] <dka> would be the risk to keep this value to `10MB` in a production environment ?
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853 [08:48:13] <jmcnaught> dka: #postgresql is probably a better place to ask
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872 [09:20:02] <lrvick> are stretch repos broken right now? replaced-url
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879 [09:25:58] <babilen> lrvick: Try a regional mirror such as ftp.XX.debian.org with XX in {uk,de,tw,us,...} -- replaced-url
880 [09:26:17] <babilen> Or a specific one listed on that website
881 [09:26:44] <babilen> (or just wait)
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885 [09:28:18] <CQ> hello, I want to boot debian (the whole system) off a USB stick... any suggestions on how to do that? all teh links seem to be for USB installations etc.
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887 [09:30:17] <babilen> CQ: replaced-url
888 [09:31:28] <CQ> babilen can I just take a working installation and dd the partition over and use grub to find it?
889 [09:32:34] <CQ> problem is I have a rack server that only holds 2 HDDs, so I want to install the OS on USB
890 [09:33:43] <babilen> No need for dd in these situations (cp will work just fine and will probably be faster), but generally speaking that would be an approach. The tricky bit is getting the "boot from USB" part right.
891 [09:34:19] <babilen> You'd also have to change filesystem references and whatnot in the image
892 [09:34:24] <babilen> Feels like a lot of work
893 [09:34:56] <CQ> I don't mind using a live disk, but I want to be able to install packages, security updates etc.
894 [09:35:21] <CQ> replaced-url
895 [09:35:21] <ByteStorm> hey CQ do you hav a debian installer done on some storage....like a pendrive???
896 [09:35:41] <CQ> ByteStorm: not yet, just checking what ptions make the most sense
897 [09:35:42] <ByteStorm> I hav my debian installed on a pendrive
898 [09:36:34] <babilen> CQ: I mean you can install Debian on an external harddrive and just install grub there and all that.
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900 [09:37:04] <CQ> babilen external USB harddrive? that isn' ttreated like a USB stick? then that's teh easiest thing to do
901 [09:37:28] <CQ> what's the diff between USD HDD and USB stick?
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905 [09:39:01] <babilen> The size I'd say
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907 [09:39:12] <CQ> size is irrelevant, 16GB is more than enough
908 [09:39:19] <CQ> this is just for booting
909 [09:39:39] <babilen> Yeah, it doesn't make a difference
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911 [09:40:18] <CQ> so I can use a netinst image and just install to a USB stick... perfect. Somehow I thought there were problems installing to USB media generally
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914 [09:43:45] <babilen> CQ: You should also be able to just create a filesystem on the stick, debootstrap Debian on it, write /etc/fstab, /etc/mtab and then install grub on it.
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1063 [10:57:08] <iSlayWyverns> Debian 8.x is stable?
1064 [10:57:16] <iSlayWyverns> *is the stable branch?
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1076 [11:01:20] <dutchfish> !tell iSlayWyverns about releases
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1084 [11:07:44] <calimero_82> hi
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1088 [11:08:40] <calimero_82> how can i install usb wifi? thanks
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1099 [11:12:13] <epsilon> like any other WiFi... what do lsusb, iwconfig say?
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1109 [11:16:06] <calimero_82> i've done lsusb, and now?
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1118 [11:18:32] <epsilon> as the oracle--- or the read the output
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1220 [12:05:09] <dionysus69> how do I make audio switch to hdmi automatically on connect? currently I have to do it manually with pulseaudio
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1239 [12:12:10] <julius_> hi
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1246 [12:15:07] <julius_> i installed a new debian with debootstrap onto a seperate partition and i did run update-grub. but at boot time grub does only show debian/linux. it was installed onto the lvm partition; /dev/t560-vg/ubuntu15.04 ( the name is old, im sure i installed debian to it) grep ubuntu /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows notjing?
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1248 [12:16:10] <julius_> grub shows things like: root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-root so there should also be a entry containing the string ubuntu, right?
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1280 [12:39:08] <die7> I am looking for a systemwide audio equalizer for Debian, but no luck
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1289 [12:43:19] <unborn> die7: usually good speakers have it self equaliser.. there are some plugins for applications I guess but not system wide.. I mean its computer - it should produce nice crispy sound which indeed does.. so equaliser option is left on external audio
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1291 [12:44:07] <unborn> same with proper audio setup - in short - I dont think so there is an equaliser for system wide to be used
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1294 [12:45:10] <die7> sure, but you know sometime I wish to have louder bass or other things or just to play around
1295 [12:45:56] <die7> I saw it for pulse on gnome but I use kde
1296 [12:45:56] <unborn> die7: I know, all I can advice is getting better stereo setup
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1298 [12:46:10] <die7> unborn: :)
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1305 [12:49:28] <hexnewbie> die7: There's an equaliser plugin for ALSA. You can equalise using alsamixer. You could make it your default sound card, unfortunately you'd either have to do away with Pulseaudio, or somehow force it to use the plugin as a sink (which it can IIRC, but is not recommended by PA people)
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1307 [12:50:11] <hexnewbie> die7: The package is libasound2-plugin-equal
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1309 [12:50:38] <die7> unborn: cool bro, will look right now, thjank you so much!
1310 [12:51:07] <die7> hexnewbie:
1311 [12:51:22] <die7> hexnewbie: sorry I mean and tahn you
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1314 [12:52:28] <hexnewbie> die7: There's also a pulseaudio equalizer sink, which is an alternative: replaced-url
1315 [12:52:59] <hexnewbie> die7: The PA one is probably preferred if you use PA, and you're unfamiliar with ALSA.
1316 [12:53:14] <die7> hexnewbie: woow I really thank you for help
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1318 [12:54:07] <Anonymes> Hi
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1321 [12:56:31] <die7> hexnewbie: PA is def for debina and KDE or ..sorry im somehow new
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1323 [12:56:47] <die7> hexnewbie: or alsa?
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1331 [12:59:25] <hexnewbie> die7: Yeah, the default is PulseAudio (if it is installed, and I believe it is installed by default too), which then uses ALSA as an audio sink. That means that you technically use either of those equalisers. The PA equaliser plugin is buggy, but sounds easier to setup (at the very least, if you'd used the ALSA one, you'd need to reconfigure both ALSA and PA to use it)
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1334 [13:00:15] <die7> hexnewbie: thank you bro, I will not steal your time more..will try with both sugesttions
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1337 [13:00:33] <winterss> hi
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1341 [13:01:38] <jiggawattz> Yo
1342 [13:01:48] <jiggawattz> When is Debian going to adopt the Upstart init system?
1343 [13:02:29] <Brigo> jiggawattz, debian is already using it (not by default), but it is deprecated.
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1347 [13:03:09] <wlan2> So, I was cooking a livecd and thought, how can I possibly make the squashfs smaller?
1348 [13:03:32] <hexnewbie> jiggawattz: upstart was removed end of last year, it is available in jessie, but it is not going to be in stretch
1349 [13:03:48] <jiggawattz> ehh
1350 [13:03:49] <jiggawattz> fuck it
1351 [13:03:52] <jiggawattz> alright thanks
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1353 [13:03:57] * jiggawattz can live with systemd
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1409 [13:25:17] <Meerkat> I need some help. I run Debian 8 with xfce and for some reason a random web browser appears when I open a link from hexchat, icedove, or skype instead of the one I picked in Preferred Applications.
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1411 [13:27:28] <Wulf> Meerkat: man update-alternatives
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1413 [13:27:48] <ByteStorm> hey guys whats the port of http and https
1414 [13:27:56] <ByteStorm> im configuring apf-firewall
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1416 [13:28:01] <Wulf> ByteStorm: really?
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1418 [13:28:09] <ByteStorm> why??
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1420 [13:28:49] <ByteStorm> plus ftp and torrents
1421 [13:28:50] <Wulf> ByteStorm: web server operators may choose any port they want. And some do.
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1424 [13:29:45] <Meerkat> Wulf, I see, chrome has put itself at the top again. But chromium is sometimes opened and it still has the lowest priority.
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1427 [13:30:13] <shutdownFr> Hi
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1432 [13:31:23] <shutdownFr> there was a storm, then my notebook was without power and turned off ..
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1434 [13:32:52] <shutdownFr> now i have just made an upgrade (via apt) so i wanted to reboot it and do an auto check of the fs
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1437 [13:33:17] <shutdownFr> i used "shutdown -rF now" .. but it gives me a strange error message:
1438 [13:33:18] <shutdownFr> Code should not be reached 'Unhandled option' at ../src/systemctl/systemctl.c:6316, function shutdown_parse_argv(). Aborting.
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1441 [13:34:34] <shutdownFr> i also read "man shutdown" and "shutdown --help" but there is no trace here of the "-F" option. Has it been removed in some last version of shutdown ?
1442 [13:35:10] <shutdownFr> i am using "Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie)"
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1444 [13:35:53] <shutdownFr> maybe the switching from initd to systemd changed the shutdown option and now "-F" is no more possible ?
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1449 [13:37:22] <ByteStorm> Wulf you there
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1456 [13:41:19] <Meerkat> I hope it stays this time. Thanks!
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1467 [13:44:53] <ByteStorm> guys whats the port number of ftp,https,http and torrents
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1470 [13:46:14] <qmr> ....
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1474 [13:46:35] <qmr> what's the port number of google, you useless helpless cretin?
1475 [13:46:35] <unborn> ByteStorm: 21+passive ports, 443, 80, and for torrents you would need to open range
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1477 [13:46:58] <ByteStorm> ok....can you list them
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1479 [13:47:11] <qmr> can you wipe your ass without assistance?
1480 [13:47:11] <unborn> ByteStorm: consider ftp as not very reasonable as that is unsecure
1481 [13:47:21] <Brigo> qmr, check them in /etc/services
1482 [13:47:27] <qmr> unborn acting as a google proxy only encourages his learned helplessness
1483 [13:47:28] <ByteStorm> qmr sorry??
1484 [13:47:58] <qmr> you waste everyone's time by asking incredibly simple questions without first searching the web or online documentation
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1486 [13:48:45] <unborn> qmr: you must be well frustrated :) bless you
1487 [13:49:36] <cruncher> well, apart from that, qmr is right. ByteStorm should google for things like this, not expecting the info to be served on a silver plate
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1489 [13:49:51] <qmr> if you build a man a fire he will be warm for a night. if you set a man on fire he will be warm for the rest of his life.
1490 [13:49:52] <unborn> ByteStorm: there is page on wikipedia regards all known ports, it would be best place to visit that page and found exactly what port for what service you need
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1492 [13:49:57] <rysiek|pl> and yet calling people "cretins" is not helpful either
1493 [13:50:09] <cruncher> true, insults shouldnt be made
1494 [13:50:11] <ByteStorm> hmm....well i did search the net if my net conn didnt went off every 3-4 mins
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1496 [13:50:25] <qmr> .... then how are you able to chat on irc
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1498 [13:50:38] <rysiek|pl> ByteStorm: cat /etc/services
1499 [13:50:54] <ByteStorm> now...my lag is 9.6 secs
1500 [13:50:59] <Brigo> qmr, sorry that message was for ByteStorm (as you could guess) :)
1501 [13:51:09] <rysiek|pl> ByteStorm: you have a lot of services and its ports specified there
1502 [13:52:22] <unborn> ByteStorm: get better internet services however I hope so this will helps: replaced-url
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1505 [13:53:39] <ByteStorm> its 107 bytes...something like tht
1506 [13:53:39] <ByteStorm> hell do you kno whats going on in my computer???
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1579 [14:26:21] <Includes08> Does someone in here have experience with ISPconfig?
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1589 [14:31:54] <RoyK> [sø. juni 12 14:25:23 2016] program smartctl is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO
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1591 [14:32:02] <RoyK> any idea how to shut this thing up?
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1597 [14:36:53] <Hello71> upgrade smartmontools?
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1600 [14:38:13] <RoyK> Hello71: I don't mix repos - this is debian jessie
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1602 [14:38:52] <RoyK> Hello71: I was googling a bit and found a "fix" for this almost a decade back
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1611 [14:42:25] <strncat> im trying to load a native library from jogl, but it doesnt appear to be in the package, or anywhere i can find. does debian just not provide the natives for?
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1626 [14:51:41] <strncat> neeevermind.
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1736 [16:01:48] <Nebukadneza> heho
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1741 [16:05:12] <Nebukadneza> i seem to have some problems with gtk3 / gtk3-theme display on testing. i’m using awesome as a WM — for one, firefox (47.0) doesn’t display checkboxes with a border anymore, essentially making unchecked checkboxes and radio-selects completely invisible
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1745 [16:05:53] <Nebukadneza> also, using scim input, the list of suggestions that pop up under the cursor when typing chinese/japanese/etc seems to be rendered grey-on-grey, i.e. completely invisible (but copy-paste’able!) characters
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1748 [16:08:39] <Nebukadneza> does anyone have an idea about this?
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1765 [16:21:46] <julius_> grub shows things like: root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-root so there should also be a entry containing the string ubuntu, right?
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1837 [16:54:45] <alta23> hi! I had a problem on Debian 8 that LibreOffice and other software couldn't launch due to user rights and after reboot i couldn't login to X. I solved it by "chmod -R ugo+rwx", now it's working but i don't understand, what can change this by accident or what might happen?
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1850 [16:58:24] <julius_> and on what directory did you run that chmod command?
1851 [16:59:35] <zykotick9> julius_: you are brave... i was afraid to ask.
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1854 [16:59:59] <julius_> :)
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1856 [17:00:21] <julius_> whats up today, this channel is deadly silent?
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1859 [17:00:57] <alta23> on /home/[username]
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1861 [17:01:22] <julius_> that wont hurt, its ok
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1863 [17:01:31] <julius_> somehow you managed to change the permissions before...
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1865 [17:01:44] <zykotick9> alta23: note - if you run GUI apps with sudo sometimes some permissions in ~ can become owned by root.
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1868 [17:02:09] <alta23> hmm that might happened
1869 [17:02:12] <alta23> ok, thank you
1870 [17:02:21] <julius_> basically you never need to run gui apps as root
1871 [17:02:31] <zykotick9> julius_: +1
1872 [17:02:44] <julius_> besides wireshark, but even that can be prevented
1873 [17:03:00] <zykotick9> hehe, i was also thinking about wireshark
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1875 [17:03:15] <julius_> anyhow, your system will live alta23
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1877 [17:03:29] <alta23> :D ok thanks for your help
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1879 [17:03:49] <julius_> no problem
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1913 [17:19:42] <maddy> I faced a lot of issues with KDM and X which resolved only by purging both and re-installing them...now the YouTube videos lag a lot..any way to fix that? My OpengGL vendor string says VMware
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1920 [17:23:30] <teraflops> maddy: is that a virtual machine?
1921 [17:23:43] <maddy> teraflops: no
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1923 [17:24:06] <maddy> teraflops: dmesg shows this error : [ 3.283405] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree.
1924 [17:24:14] <teraflops> then your graphics configuration is totally borked
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1928 [17:25:02] <maddy> and i don't want to install radeon drivers because i lose my desktop environment the moment i try radeon...instead things work for me on my integrated graphics card from Intel
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1933 [17:27:03] <teraflops> firmware-linux-nonfree is not the gpu driver, is the firmware
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1935 [17:27:54] <maddy> teraflops: i am absolutely sure installing that will screw my machine...
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1937 [17:28:20] <teraflops> Im just telling you that firmware-linux-nonfree is not the gpu driver
1938 [17:28:44] <maddy> ok...
1939 [17:28:52] <towo`> without that firmware the radeon driver can't work
1940 [17:28:54] <qman__> maddy: it's telling you that it can't do modesetting because of missing firmware, and that package is required to use it; if it does break, you can simply remove that firmware package afterward to get back to where you are now
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1944 [17:30:10] <maddy> towo, qman__: radeon is somehow not working on my machine at all...tried it on different distro...gentoo, ubuntu, debian....it just refuses to work
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1946 [17:30:36] <towo`> i can't believe
1947 [17:30:39] <maddy> only the integrated intel drivers work on my machine
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1949 [17:30:43] <towo`> but no one knows your hardware
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1951 [17:31:09] <towo`> maddy, if you have hybrid graphics, intel is the default display out
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1954 [17:31:23] <towo`> and you can use the radeon with using dri offloading
1955 [17:31:41] <towo`> you can't use the radeon chip as primary output
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1958 [17:34:58] <teraflops> r600 is like hd3xxx? if yes it works out of the box with libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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1960 [17:35:46] <maddy> towo`: okay..i am not sure how to do that...i'd however want to stay away from radeon
1961 [17:36:13] <teraflops> maddy: is that a laptop?
1962 [17:36:23] <maddy> teraflops: i don't know about hd3xxx...but, yes..it used to work fine with libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati...not anymore though
1963 [17:36:42] <maddy> teraflops: yes, it's a laptop dell Inspiron 14R
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1965 [17:37:34] <teraflops> maddy: hybrid graphics?
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1967 [17:38:57] <maddy> teraflops: it has an on-board integrated intel graphics chip and a radeon card as well..if that's what you mean by hybrid
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1970 [17:40:45] <teraflops> maddy: what I meant is how did you manage to use the dedicated gpu in a laptop, but since you say you already used it before I guess it's fine
1971 [17:41:28] <teraflops> s/a laptop/that laptop
1972 [17:41:29] <maddy> teraflops: from the little that i understand...if the system doesn't find the radeon drivers..it falls back to the dedicated gpu
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1980 [17:44:24] <teraflops> are you sure it's not failing because the system has 2 gpus and is confused about it? i never dealt with hybrid intel/ati before but im pretty sure it does not work out of the box
1981 [17:44:57] <teraflops> at least I guess you need a custom xorg conf
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1984 [17:45:27] <maddy> teraflops: have been using different flavors of linux distros which used to work fine out-of-the box until last year
1985 [17:45:35] <teraflops> ok then
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1988 [17:47:43] <maddy> teraflops: so how should i go ahead with this? just want to get the integrated graphic card running normally....the radeon driver has taken a lot of my time and not worked in the end..so don't even want to give it try
1989 [17:48:07] <teraflops> maddy: which igpu ships that laptop?
1990 [17:49:05] <teraflops> maddy: intel gpu is fine imo if it's not too old
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1993 [17:49:55] <maddy> teraflops: just let me check the exact make of igpu....and the intel gpu is fine for my normal development work....so i can live with that
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1995 [17:50:08] <teraflops> intel hd3000 here works pretty well except for gaming. xorg and wayland works ok
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1997 [17:50:30] <teraflops> maddy: yeah yuore right
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2002 [17:53:34] <maddy> teraflops: it is hd3000
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2004 [17:54:23] <teraflops> maddy: youre more then fine then
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2006 [17:54:31] <teraflops> than*
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2008 [17:55:58] <maddy> teraflops: so how do i get it to work fine? currently it seems to be in a mess...even youtube videos keep lagging
2009 [17:55:59] <maddy> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 256 bits) OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
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2011 [17:57:07] <teraflops> maddy: do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
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2013 [17:58:05] <maddy> teraflops: yes
2014 [17:58:39] <teraflops> maddy: do you have a xorg.conf?
2015 [17:58:49] <maddy> teraflops: yes
2016 [17:58:55] <towo`> i would like to see the Xorg.0.log
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2020 [17:59:11] <towo`> and a xorg.conf is not needed at all
2021 [17:59:20] <teraflops> maddy: you dnot need one for intel gpu, give try to moving it away
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2024 [17:59:49] <teraflops> maddy: then restart X
2025 [18:00:09] <maddy> teraflops: ok...i'll try that
2026 [18:00:11] <teraflops> maddy: if the vmware thing persists please paste your xrog log
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2030 [18:00:18] <maddy> alright
2031 [18:00:27] <maddy> be back soon
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2035 [18:02:01] <teraflops> well you dont even need xserver-xorg-video-intel at all for intel HD3000 modesetting works great with that gpu
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2041 [18:04:51] <maddy> teraflops: it worked..thanks! :]
2042 [18:05:04] <teraflops> good
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2045 [18:05:20] <jelly> dpkg, tell Nebukadneza about debian-next
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2047 [18:06:47] <teraflops> maddy: intel hd3000 is good gpu for all but gaming, including 1080p video playing even doing hw-dec
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2051 [18:09:06] <maddy> teraflops: yes...all i need is youtube, game of thrones and android screen share..all of them work reasonably alright
2052 [18:09:14] <teraflops> yeah
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2055 [18:09:45] <teraflops> if you care about battery life while playing videos take a look at vaapi
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2067 [18:12:04] <ggherdov> Hello. What's the debian way of setting a new DNS server? you can just go change /etc/resolv.conf and be done with it?
2068 [18:12:04] <ggherdov> I am connecting to a VPN w/ openvpn, and I pull the DNS server address from openvpn. There is a callback script I can use to do stuff at begin and end of a connection, and there I'm suppose to change my DNS.
2069 [18:12:23] <Wulf> ggherdov: resolvconf
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2071 [18:12:42] <Wulf> ggherdov: I assume that openvpn was already setup to use this software
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2073 [18:14:05] <ggherdov> Wulf: you mean the openvpn server pushes the DNS server info? yes. About using resolvconf, I understand you're pretty much on your own for the method of setting the DNS in your (client) system
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2075 [18:15:10] <ggherdov> I found a couple of example script to use as "setup/teardown", one uses resolvconf and one uses an openSUSE thing (netconfig).
2076 [18:15:12] <teraflops> ggherdov: afaik resolv.conf will be overwritten no matter what you do, or at list it appends your ovpn server to the existing ones, a bit unsecure if you ask me
2077 [18:15:43] <teraflops> ggherdov: what i do is using unbound, since my dns server is always 127.0.0.1 im fine
2078 [18:16:09] <Wulf> ggherdov: openvpn can push the settings, yes. No, you're not on your own, there's a program called "resolvconf" which handles all changes to /etc/resolv.conf
2079 [18:16:30] <Wulf> ggherdov: and openvpn should have support for using it
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2081 [18:17:23] <ggherdov> Wulf: teraflops: thanks, will go read more docs.
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2085 [18:20:05] <teraflops> when I said it appends your ovpn server i meant the dns server the ovpn server pushes
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2091 [18:21:31] <ggherdov> teraflops: sure
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2094 [18:22:10] <vahe1> hi good people, like to make an exception apt-get autoremove ,that would not have removed specific packages?
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2096 [18:22:51] <vahe1> to make an exception apt-get autoremove
2097 [18:22:54] <teraflops> install the package explicitly?
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2101 [18:23:36] <vahe1> teraflops: it is necessary to leave packages
2102 [18:23:47] <teraflops> if you install it explicitly it'll not get auto-removed if i remember correctly
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2106 [18:25:14] <vahe1> teraflops: I removed teamviewer ,but for some reason it works as root in the case that it can work and user.that's not trust,but if you do not set the library will not work
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2108 [18:25:48] <teraflops> vahe1: teamviewer is not in the repos
2109 [18:26:23] <vahe1> I deleted the program,but I have to leave the library
2110 [18:26:35] <vahe1> yes know
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2113 [18:26:50] <vahe1> but the packages have
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2116 [18:27:14] <teraflops> also if I understood, you remove teamviewer and then apt suggest you to run autoremove and a list of packages, what I mean is that you install that lib package explicitly so apt-get autoremove will not uninstall it
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2119 [18:27:44] <Agenomoto> I want to scan and auto fix ALL problems in disk wherever possible. Can anyone tell the fsck command? its ext4 FS? sudo fsck -AayVr /dev/sda4 ?
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2122 [18:28:19] <vahe1> teraflops: tell me how to use teamviewer without using root or tell me how to add in exception packets for example libice6:i386 libjpeg62-turbo:i386 libsm6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxau6:i386
2123 [18:28:56] <teraflops> vahe1: no what I tell you is that teamviewer is risky as hell this days
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2126 [18:30:07] * unborn agree with teraflops
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2128 [18:30:30] <vahe1> teraflops: Yes I know but no alternative ,I just need to help a friend fix a computer,I say don't use it, but no alternative
2129 [18:30:43] <unborn> vahe1: you can use teamviewer without root, of course you can, just install it and then just run it
2130 [18:30:47] <teraflops> vahe1: also Im sorry but I have no idea about teamviewer in debian
2131 [18:30:58] <unborn> vahe1: ssh, or vnc is good alternative
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2133 [18:31:31] <simonlnu> Agenomoto: man e2fsck
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2138 [18:31:51] <vahe1> unborn: I downloaded the source and wanted to run inside, but doesn't work without the libraries
2139 [18:31:54] <simonlnu> Agenomoto: you type that in a terminal
2140 [18:32:03] <vahe1> teraflops: thanks
2141 [18:32:05] <vahe1> :)
2142 [18:32:47] <unborn> vahe1: download deb file
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2144 [18:32:59] <vahe1> unborn: I know that ssh vnc but the problem is that I have not real ip
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2147 [18:33:18] <teraflops> vahe1: teamviewer is a weird script
2148 [18:33:28] <vahe1> for vnc have static real ip
2149 [18:33:35] <simonlnu> vahe1: so how are you connecting here, the ether?
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2154 [18:34:03] <unborn> ah vahe1 that is not that big issue :) you can write your self script which would check servers ip for every 10 minutes and if the ip would change it will send you email about it
2155 [18:34:05] <vahe1> unborn: deb file installed on the root
2156 [18:34:13] <unborn> or use no-ip
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2158 [18:34:44] <vahe1> I hate teamviewer, but what if there is no alternative
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2162 [18:35:37] <vahe1> simonlnu: what does this have to vnc?
2163 [18:35:41] <unborn> *with new ip vahe1 so you always will be able to connect
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2165 [18:36:48] <tako> kde plasma 5 is ready for jessie ?
2166 [18:36:52] <vahe1> unborn: no-ip don't trust :(
2167 [18:37:07] <simonlnu> tako: no
2168 [18:37:15] <unborn> vahe1: i would trust them more then teamviewer thats for sure heh
2169 [18:37:42] <teraflops> lel you dont trust no-ip but you trus teamviewer…
2170 [18:37:47] <teraflops> trust*
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2175 [18:38:53] <vahe1> teraflops: I don't trust and teamviewer i no-ip I don't trust anything that is not GPL
2176 [18:39:05] <vahe1> GPL forever :D
2177 [18:39:07] <teraflops> the only thing youll miss could be transversal nat
2178 [18:39:18] <teraflops> or the silly chat
2179 [18:40:21] <vahe1> friends, I just need what would like to make an exception for packages removal
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2181 [18:40:27] <teraflops> no-ip aka use whatever dynamic dns service you want then
2182 [18:40:31] <teraflops> heh
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2184 [18:40:40] <teraflops> yeah sorry
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2188 [18:41:49] <vahe1> teraflops: it's your opinion :) I will never trust if you do not see the source + GPL license AGPL :)
2189 [18:42:42] <teraflops> vahe1: I bail on this conversation, sorry, no offense intended
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2193 [18:43:54] <vahe1> teraflops: well,I I it is important that you trust,I just need to know how to make the exception
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2196 [18:45:12] <unborn> vahe1: as i said you can write like 7 line code which will check your the machines IP for every 10 minutes or so and if the ip would change it will send you an email with new changed ip.. that way your own code only, no 3th party in and you can use ssh
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2199 [18:45:51] <vahe1> unborn: my ip not my personal real ip
2200 [18:46:03] <vahe1> here is my ip
2201 [18:46:13] <vahe1> 130.193.124.135
2202 [18:46:29] <vahe1> try to connect
2203 [18:46:31] <vahe1> :D
2204 [18:46:34] <teraflops> vahe1: wget replaced-url
2205 [18:46:54] <unborn> vahe1: pesonal or real? you mean aka internal or external?
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2209 [18:47:12] <unborn> teraflops: exactly I use that link in my script and it works just fine
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2211 [18:47:25] <simonlnu> that's an external IP, obviously.
2212 [18:47:34] <teraflops> vahe1: as I said youll miss transversal nat
2213 [18:47:37] <teraflops> simonlnu: yeah
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2215 [18:48:11] <vahe1> unborn: my ip for the village :)
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2218 [18:49:09] <unborn> vahe1: if that is internal ip, then simply setup static ip on it and write it down or put it into your hosts with some dummy host name..
2219 [18:49:29] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops replaced-url
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2221 [18:49:34] <simonlnu> vahe1: your village has one IP address?
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2224 [18:49:46] <vahe1> yes
2225 [18:49:48] <vahe1> :D
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2229 [18:50:23] <simonlnu> vahe1: OK. so you have a router for the village distributing NAT IPs for various households?
2230 [18:50:27] <teraflops> vahe1: which package do you want to keep?
2231 [18:50:48] <vahe1> simonlnu: yes :)
2232 [18:50:55] <simonlnu> gotcha
2233 [18:51:19] <vahe1> teraflops: all of these replaced-url
2234 [18:51:22] <unborn> simonlnu: i just already told him what to do :)
2235 [18:51:33] <simonlnu> OK, so you'll need to do those checks via some mechanism.
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2237 [18:51:42] <teraflops> vahe1: apt-get install all-of-them
2238 [18:51:51] <simonlnu> unborn: resolvconf, right?
2239 [18:51:52] <unborn> vahe1: I think you are trying running unattended access on teamviewer ? is that what you after?
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2242 [18:52:24] <vahe1> teraflops: E: Unable to locate package all-of-them
2243 [18:52:31] <vahe1> ah
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2245 [18:52:35] <vahe1> sorry
2246 [18:52:37] <teraflops> vahe1: because they are not in the repos?
2247 [18:52:43] <simonlnu> unborn: i'm asking because it gives me an idea of what we're dealing with.
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2249 [18:53:07] <vahe1> teraflops: need save libice6:i386 libjpeg62-turbo:i386 libsm6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxau6:i386
2250 [18:53:07] <vahe1> libxcb1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386
2251 [18:53:07] <vahe1> libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxtst6:i386
2252 [18:53:15] <vahe1> sorry for spam :)
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2254 [18:53:20] <teraflops> vahe1: just install that all of them :S
2255 [18:53:32] <simonlnu> vahe1: all-of-them was just a shorthand for "install all those packages". and don't paste here, please. the bot will kick you otherwise.
2256 [18:53:34] <unborn> simonlnu: if he got access to switch or network yes
2257 [18:53:45] <vahe1> all these packages installed
2258 [18:54:03] <teraflops> apt-get install --reinstall them?
2259 [18:54:04] <simonlnu> unborn: s/he'll need to communicate with the router op to do stuff.
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2262 [18:54:41] <teraflops> unborn: it's doable of course
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2264 [18:55:00] <simonlnu> some stuff anyway.
2265 [18:55:13] <simonlnu> most of it s/he can do him/herself.
2266 [18:55:32] <teraflops> doing nat, map one port to each machine
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2268 [18:55:47] <unborn> simonlnu: he actually never answered to me that, but yes I dont think so he have access into network management and as I see it from convo he does not really know networking stuff that much (no offence to anyone)
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2273 [18:56:13] <vahe1> teraflops: --reinstall not help (
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2275 [18:56:52] <teraflops> also with one machine, you rdesktop there then rdesktop from that machine to the rest
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2278 [18:57:37] <teraflops> I assume rdesktop since he wanted teamviewer
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2280 [18:58:12] <teraflops> vahe1: what did apt say? it does not help?
2281 [18:58:13] <unborn> vahe1: I use teamviewer occasionally to help folks and mates here on irc and installed on debian without issue
2282 [18:59:15] <unborn> needless to say teamviewer has been compromised last month (also this moth too)
2283 [18:59:20] <vahe1> teraflops: I reinstalled the package ,not help
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2288 [19:00:05] <x23wrbird> alguien me explica como se instala un servidor irc y como poner contraseña a un canal?
2289 [19:00:24] <vahe1> unborn: thanks,the problem is that I also installed,but the program works on the root
2290 [19:00:26] <teraflops> x23wrbird: pregunta en #debian-es o pregunta aqui pero en ingles
2291 [19:00:56] <unborn> vahe1: so remove it, and install it as normal user heh
2292 [19:01:03] <x23wrbird> how can i intall a irc server and how can i put a password in my channel?
2293 [19:01:17] <simonlnu> !pt
2294 [19:01:17] <dpkg> Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
2295 [19:01:29] <teraflops> simonlnu: hey it's spanish
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2297 [19:01:42] <simonlnu> thanks
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2299 [19:01:49] <x23wrbird> yes it was spanish but
2300 [19:01:50] <teraflops> you want to install ircd? that's not debian related
2301 [19:01:54] <x23wrbird> yes
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2303 [19:02:05] <x23wrbird> where can i ask those things
2304 [19:02:11] <x23wrbird> ?
2305 [19:02:13] <teraflops> google is fine I guess
2306 [19:02:19] <unborn> x23wrbird: one second
2307 [19:02:19] <x23wrbird> XD
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2309 [19:02:23] <teraflops> x23wrbird: heh
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2311 [19:02:42] <kcirick> Hi... If i wanted to install a more recent programs than in the repo (jessie), for example, libreoffice, what's the best way to go about it?
2312 [19:02:47] <vahe1> teraflops: unborn I removed teamviever,but packages stayed when I do autoremove suggests to remove what is left of teamviewer,but that would be to run source I have to write these libraries
2313 [19:02:57] <unborn> x23wrbird: here ya go: replaced-url
2314 [19:03:08] <unborn> use google next time ^^^^
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2317 [19:03:21] <x23wrbird> thank you XD
2318 [19:03:23] <kcirick> For libreoffice, is it safe to go ahead and download latest version from their website?
2319 [19:03:30] <vahe1> unborn: well tell me how to install that would not work for root
2320 [19:03:45] <simonlnu> kcirick: check backports
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2323 [19:04:05] <simonlnu> !backports
2324 [19:04:05] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
2325 [19:04:14] <unborn> vahe1: log in as user then su command to install and you are done
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2327 [19:04:51] <kcirick> simonlnu: thanks... I'll go there for libreoffice.. I also want homebank, but that's not in backports
2328 [19:04:53] <babilen> judd: v libreoffice-writer --release=jessie-backports
2329 [19:04:54] <judd> Package: libreoffice-writer on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1:5.1.3-1~bpo8+1
2330 [19:05:10] <unborn> vahe1: unattended access would never work with normal user plus even if it would so - it would be idiotic decision to run that 24/7 which I would not suggest
2331 [19:05:14] <kcirick> simonlnu: replaced-url
2332 [19:05:18] <simonlnu> that's the syntax, thanks babilen
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2335 [19:06:02] <babilen> kcirick: Looks as if it might not be too hard to backport yourself. See <ssb> for a simple way to do that -- /msg dpkg ssb
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2337 [19:06:54] <kcirick> babilen: I'll try that! thanks
2338 [19:07:16] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops replaced-url
2339 [19:07:18] <vahe1> root
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2341 [19:07:56] <kcirick> babilen: it says add line for deb-src sid, I'm using jessie, it that okay?
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2343 [19:08:05] <kcirick> or is sid experimental?
2344 [19:08:28] <simonlnu> sid is not experimental. another name for sid is unstable.
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2348 [19:09:07] <kcirick> so the version of homebank I need is already in sid... so I just have to add sid to apt?
2349 [19:09:23] <babilen> kcirick: As long as you *only* add deb-src it is fine as that allows you to get source packages only. Do *not* add a "deb" line.
2350 [19:09:30] <babilen> judd: v homebank
2351 [19:09:31] <judd> Package: homebank on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.2.1-1; wheezy: 4.4-1; jessie: 4.6.1-1; sid: 5.0.3-2; stretch: 5.0.3-2
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2353 [19:09:35] <simonlnu> indeed
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2355 [19:09:48] <babilen> That would allow you to backport 5.0.3 -- If that's the version you want you are good
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2357 [19:10:12] <kcirick> babilen: yes, that's the version I want
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2359 [19:10:37] <babilen> Try the backport then. Please keep in mind that you are responsible for keeping it up-to-date in the future :)
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2362 [19:11:38] <kcirick> babilen: Sorry, you lost me again... so I use jessie backports and not deb-src sid?
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2368 [19:12:42] <babilen> kcirick: You add a "deb" line for jessie-backports *and* a "deb-src" line for sid (aka unstable)
2369 [19:12:47] <CQ> kcirick: both. The backports in jessie are from the sid sources
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2371 [19:13:20] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops replaced-url
2372 [19:13:23] <kcirick> Ok... sorry this is day #2 for me on debian
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2374 [19:13:34] <babilen> Well, stretch/testing actually, but the <ssb> factoid explains how to backport packages from sid. ssb is short for simple sid backport.
2375 [19:13:35] <CQ> babilen is there an autobuilder for (new) backports?
2376 [19:13:55] <teraflops> vahe1: sorry. I cannot help you with that
2377 [19:13:57] <babilen> Backports are packaged and uploaded explicitly.
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2381 [19:14:43] <kcirick> babilen: in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb-src replaced-url
2382 [19:14:50] <CQ> reading replaced-url
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2392 [19:16:15] <babilen> kcirick: I'd use "deb-src replaced-url
2393 [19:16:28] <kcirick> babilen: thanks...
2394 [19:16:38] <babilen> kcirick: Could you paste the resulting sources.list to replaced-url
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2396 [19:16:45] <basic6_> looking for a way to disable nfsv4, this article recommends adding an option to the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable, but this variable comes after a double-dash "--", so it probably won't work? replaced-url
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2400 [19:17:42] <babilen> basic6_: Not installing nfs-common should do the trick.
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2402 [19:18:11] <kcirick> babilen: replaced-url
2403 [19:18:21] <basic6_> babilen: no, only v4 should be disabled. nfs v3 should not be disabled.
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2408 [19:19:25] <kcirick> babilen: following instructions from dpkg, it seems to be working
2409 [19:19:33] <babilen> kcirick: Please don't use ftp.debian.org, but a different mirror. mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca should be fine .. I showed replaced-url
2410 [19:19:54] <simonlnu> i use httpredir
2411 [19:20:04] <babilen> basic6_: Okay, that wouldn't work then ;)
2412 [19:20:06] <kcirick> babilen: go it. Will do
2413 [19:20:43] <simonlnu> basic6_: specify nfsv3 in fstab / wherever?
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2415 [19:21:33] <basic6_> babilen: right :) but have you seen that article i linked? they put an option into a variable that is appended after a double-dash. double-dash usually means, "no more options from here on"
2416 [19:21:48] <basic6_> simonlnu: no. talking about the nfs *server*
2417 [19:21:57] <babilen> basic6_: No, I didn't read that article. Why do you want to disable v4 to begin with?
2418 [19:22:00] <simonlnu> ah ok
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2420 [19:22:08] <kcirick> babilen: all worked out. Thanks for your help!
2421 [19:22:13] <babilen> kcirick: yay! :)
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2423 [19:22:38] <simonlnu> you can still specify it explicitly in the nfs mounts file
2424 [19:22:46] <basic6_> babilen: had issues with it, but that's not important. i want to disable it for testing
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2437 [19:25:49] <babilen> basic6_: Edit /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server and add "--no-nfs-version 4" in there as documented in that file. Restart the nfs server service.
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2450 [19:29:17] <basic6_> babilen: i have done that now and i have restarted it using "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart". rpcinfo still reports nfsv4 listening
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2453 [19:29:48] <babilen> basic6_: Jessie uses systemd, use "systemctl restart nfs-kernel-server"
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2456 [19:30:39] <babilen> Ah, looks like it doesn't ship a unit file
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2458 [19:31:02] <basic6_> babilen: you are right, that command would be more appropriate. however, the init.d command is just a redirect to it and the status command already shows that rpc.mountd was called with the option
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2462 [19:31:49] <basic6_> but i've restarted it again and rpcinfo still lists version 4 and mounting with vers=4 is still possible
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2464 [19:32:17] <babilen> With which option?
2465 [19:32:34] <basic6_> " --no-nfs-version 4"
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2467 [19:33:06] <basic6_> /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status: ... "29568 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --manage-gids --port 2048 --no-nfs-version 4"
2468 [19:33:15] <babilen> And the manpage of rpc.mountd says "This option can be used to request that rpc.mountd do not offer certain versions of NFS. The current version of rpc.mountd can support both NFS version 2, 3 and 4. If the either one of these version should not be offered, rpc.mountd must be invoked with the option --no-nfs-version <vers>"
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2470 [19:33:35] <babilen> "both .. <list of three things>" :)
2471 [19:33:42] <basic6_> you know, according to rpcinfo, mountd is not offering version 4 but nfs is
2472 [19:34:05] <basic6_> so i guess the option worked but it didnt actually disable nfsv4
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2476 [19:35:35] <RoyK> babilen: probably just changed from "both v 2 and 3" and nobody worried about the grammar ;)
2477 [19:36:26] <babilen> RoyK: yeah
2478 [19:36:28] <basic6_> does it make a difference if the test client already has other nfs shares mounted?
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2480 [19:37:23] <basic6_> but even if that was the case, version 4 should be disabled on the server and doing whats described in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server does not work
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2482 [19:38:05] <RoyK> why would you use nfs3?
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2484 [19:38:28] <RoyK> v4 is *very* much better
2485 [19:39:45] <basic6_> RoyK: i had problems with v4. very likely that v4 alone was not actually the cause for the problems but that really doesn't matter. i want to disable it.
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2488 [19:40:25] <babilen> basic6_: I guess you also want to pass it to rpc.nfsd also. Unfortunately there isn't an equivalent method of passing options to that, but you should be able to use "RPCNFSDCOUNT='8 --no-nfs-version 4'" in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server after looking at the init script.
2489 [19:40:32] <babilen> basic6_: Or just edit the init script directly.
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2491 [19:40:42] <babilen> But yeah .. v4 ftw!
2492 [19:40:58] <babilen> You really shouldn't work this hard to force v3
2493 [19:41:13] <babilen> But as you insist we don't fix the actual issue ;)
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2496 [19:41:59] <basic6_> babilen: right, so we're getting back to my very first question then :) using RPCNFSDCOUNT. the option is appended after a double-dash
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2498 [19:42:12] <basic6_> oh what the heck, i'll just try it even though i think it shouldn't work by convention
2499 [19:42:36] <babilen> basic6_: Please note that the init script calls start-stop-daemon and not rpc.nfsd
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2502 [19:43:56] <babilen> Either way .. why not try it?
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2507 [19:46:27] <babilen> basic6_: I don't quite follow .. You are calling start-stop-daemon, specify the command to be executed via the "--exec=..." option and then give options passed to that command after " -- ". You are not specifying options for start-stop-daemon, but for rpc.nfsd
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2509 [19:47:49] <babilen> Ah, it's even documented in start-stop-daemon(8)
2510 [19:47:56] <basic6_> right that makes the difference. and i've just tried it, it works, i can't mount using vers=4 anymore
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2512 [19:48:47] <basic6_> it's not really pretty putting the "--no-nfs-version 4" option in the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable but it seems to be the only way without editing the init script
2513 [19:48:48] <babilen> Hooray! You broke v4 ;)
2514 [19:48:58] <basic6_> yes and i'm happy :) so thank you
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2517 [19:49:27] <FaTony> hi, when mate updated to 1.14 the lock screen started showing wallpaper instead of black screen, how to fix?
2518 [19:49:29] <basic6_> hmm rpcinfo -p [IP] still lists nfs being offered with version 4. i expected this to go away?
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2520 [19:50:16] <babilen> basic6_: The name doesn't really match, but I'd say it's fine. You could edit the init script, add another (...OPTS) variable to /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server and to the init script if you think that's prettier.
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2523 [19:51:03] <babilen> basic6_: Is it a problem that it doesn't go away?
2524 [19:51:20] <basic6_> babilen: i know, but i don't want to edit the init script. who knows, maybe some debian update wil replace it and things break. i just wanted to say that it's not the "right" variable although technically it doesnt make a difference
2525 [19:51:37] <babilen> Didn't you just verify that you can't mount v4?
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2527 [19:52:09] <basic6_> also, i have removed "--no-nfs-version 4" from RPCMOUNTDOPTS and v4 is still disabled. so i don't understand why the default file says to use that option if it doesnt change anything
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2529 [19:52:40] <basic6_> babilen: correct, i can't mount v4 anymore after adding that option to the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable
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2531 [19:53:13] <babilen> replaced-url
2532 [19:53:14] <judd> Bug replaced-url
2533 [19:53:32] <babilen> I'm sure they are happy if you were to provide a patch for the init script and default file.
2534 [19:53:33] <basic6_> lol
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2536 [19:53:55] <babilen> Ah, it comes with a patch already
2537 [19:53:57] <Scriptonaut> can anyone tell me where to put my fongconfig files?
2538 [19:54:22] <Scriptonaut> the wiki doesn't cover it
2539 [19:54:39] <Scriptonaut> some things are saying ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/
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2542 [19:54:51] <Scriptonaut> then others are saying ~/.fongs.conf.d/
2543 [19:54:59] <Scriptonaut> but what about global fontconfig files?
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2549 [19:57:01] <babilen> basic6_: Just sent a mail to that bug report to ask for inclusion of that patch.
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2551 [19:57:50] <basic6_> babilen: thank you for your help, esp for finding that bug report
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2554 [19:58:57] <babilen> So .. did disabling v4 solve your $actual_problem ?
2555 [19:59:36] <babilen> And you are welcome
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2557 [20:00:38] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: per use config files ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/ ~/.fonts is deprecated
2558 [20:00:41] <teraflops> user*
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2561 [20:01:33] <Scriptonaut> teraflops: what do you mean per user? There is no global config?
2562 [20:01:37] <Scriptonaut> and if it's per user, where does it go?
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2564 [20:02:18] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: if you want globals yo go with /etc obv
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2566 [20:02:42] <Scriptonaut> ok, well will the font program pick up on where I put them?
2567 [20:03:00] <Scriptonaut> where do I specify the fontconfig dir? I'm looking in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and there is no specification
2568 [20:03:06] <Scriptonaut> can you give me an actual path?
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2571 [20:03:42] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: what are you trying to do? there's no need to specify the fontconfig dir
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2574 [20:04:27] <Scriptonaut> I installed powerline, I installed the powerline fonts, now i need to install the powerline font config file
2575 [20:06:00] * babilen just put the fonts in ~/.local/share/fonts/ and ran "fc-cache -fv"
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2577 [20:06:07] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: I already gave you, per user ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d for snippets
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2581 [20:06:47] <lukaso666> hi! I have Debian Sid (on laptop Lenovo G70-80).. after dist-upgrade my lightdm and screens are blinking all the time... what's going on? here is my lspci: replaced-url
2582 [20:06:50] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: globally /etc/fonts/ look inside
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2585 [20:07:16] <Scriptonaut> ooh, thanks teraflops
2586 [20:07:20] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: np
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2590 [20:07:55] <babilen> lukaso666: Welcome to unstable! You might want to downgrade selected packages. Also #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for unstable support.
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2594 [20:09:14] <lukaso666> babilen: hehe, I love my sid but it's my first "unstable surprise" since more than year ;) thx for channel info!
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2596 [20:09:31] <teraflops> lukaso666: lucky you
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2600 [20:10:51] <babilen> lukaso666: I'd check for "obvious candidates" in the list of packages you just upgraded and downgrade them. A pretty big "might be" is the 4.6 kernel that just made it into unstable recently.
2601 [20:10:59] <babilen> But → #debian-next
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2603 [20:11:47] <lukaso666> babilen: thanks
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2605 [20:12:24] <babilen> Boot the older 4.5 kernel and try that .. easy test and then you can look into other candidates if that didn't work
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2631 [20:24:23] <basic6_> babilen: can't say if it solves my $actual_problem. in the past, it sometimes happened that mounted nfsv4 shares would have issues, they seemed to gone for a short time or some files were not transferred, looked like files were missing that actually weren't missing. happened a few times and *only* with version 4, not anymore after changing to version 3
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2665 [20:35:27] <lukaso666> babilen: on the kernel 4.5... all works fine :) so I need to downgrade some packages or wait for some patches on 4.6
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2695 [20:51:18] <babilen> lukaso666: I have problems with 4.6 also, I guess it'll be a while before it is usable. Haven't even managed to debug it further, but it doesn't seem to be ready.
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2698 [20:51:56] <babilen> lukaso666: You might just want to stick to 4.5 for the time being and try 4.6 every now and then. If you like you could investigate the issues in more detail and report bugs.
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2712 [21:02:01] <lukaso666> babilen: right now I'm on kernel 4.5.0-2 and everything works fine.. I'll look later on these problems and maybe I'll report a bug :)
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2762 [21:24:50] <feneco> hi
2763 [21:25:05] <feneco> where can I download debian test with gnome?
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2773 [21:27:45] <basic6_> why does "find -mtime +1" list files that are a week old, but not files that are 4 months old?
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2776 [21:28:39] <zykotick9> feneco: you should try using stable first. fyi, the "proper" way to install testing is to install a minimal stable first, then upgrade/downgrade to testing.
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2779 [21:29:22] <feneco> zykotick9: would be bad to install stable with gnome and then upgrade to testing?
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2782 [21:30:51] <zykotick9> feneco: installing a "minimal" setup, upgrading that - then installing a DE would be a saner method... ymmv...
2783 [21:31:06] <feneco> ok, thanks zykotick9
2784 [21:31:52] <zykotick9> feneco: NOTE for when you have problems! suppot for testing/unstable is in #debian-next on the OFTC network. NOT here.
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2786 [21:32:12] <feneco> ok, thanks
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2804 [21:39:55] <basic6_> ignore my last question, the file was actually from the future, my bad
2805 [21:40:03] <KALASH> now that iceweasel reached end of life.. is there any work being done to move firefox-esr to stable?
2806 [21:41:32] <LtL> KALASH: it's there
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2812 [21:42:42] <KALASH> LtL: very cool thanks
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2816 [21:43:41] <LtL> keith4: welcome
2817 [21:43:56] <LtL> keith4: sorry, KALASH welcome
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2827 [21:50:01] <digglr> I'm having an issue with my motherboards (ASUS Z170-A) visual output, it doesn't want to fit to screen and has overhang and it doesn't seem to like any sort of media/video to play out of the HDMI output. I've come to accept it and have switched to Xubuntu for now but I'm also having an issue dealing with display after I turn off my monitor. Is there any support for this MB I haven't found? Also any recommendations on graphics cards
2828 [21:50:01] <digglr> with good drivers support, I had a nvidia gtx 960 that would just flicker my screen constantly that I ended up returning. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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2927 [22:46:30] <Ecco> Hi
2928 [22:46:39] <Ecco> I'd like to donate bandwidth to the Debian project
2929 [22:46:48] <Ecco> (not much, 1Gpbs)
2930 [22:47:04] <Ecco> Is there an easy way I could do it? Would it help?
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2941 [22:49:28] <TomTomTosch> Ecco: sure, you can provide a mirror if you wish. replaced-url
2942 [22:49:52] <Ecco> Great. I'm not sure I could provide somehting very reliable though
2943 [22:50:11] <Ecco> (in other words, there might be some downtime and I don't want to be bothered if there is any)
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2947 [22:50:42] <LtL> Ecco: try here, replaced-url
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2953 [22:52:20] <LtL> TomTomTosch: i didn't see your link, oops ;)
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2960 [22:53:54] <TomTomTosch> x)
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2963 [22:55:49] <TomTomTosch> Ecco: last line in the article linked above is "Any problems or enquiries can be sent to mirrors@debian.org." it's would be a good place to get more information.
2964 [22:56:17] <TomTomTosch> s/it's/that
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2985 [23:06:35] <leetcool> anyone up??
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2987 [23:06:46] <petn-randall> leetcool: No, everyone's down.
2988 [23:06:59] <leetcool> petn-randall, i'm in extreme problem
2989 [23:07:03] <leetcool> i need some help
2990 [23:07:06] <petn-randall> !ask
2991 [23:07:06] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
2992 [23:07:16] <leetcool> my system is all read only now
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2997 [23:08:12] <leetcool> my system was giving warning about lo disk space and at sudden it all went to read only fs
2998 [23:08:53] <petn-randall> leetcool: Low disk space should flip it in read-only mode, though. Do you know why it's in read-only mode?
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3000 [23:09:02] <petn-randall> *SHOULDN'T
3001 [23:09:22] <leetcool> no i'll tell you the whole story
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3005 [23:10:00] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Pastebinning the last messages in dmesg may also help, if you can pastebin easily.
3006 [23:10:01] <leetcool> i've installed debian on 50 gigs partition apart from that iwas using 200 gigs of partition to store data
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3012 [23:12:46] <leetcool> hexnewbie, replaced-url
3013 [23:12:49] <leetcool> here is the paste
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3017 [23:15:05] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Seems like your hard drive is dead or dying (either that, or---highly unlikely with some of those messages---the controller is malfunctioning). You should try to attempt to duplicate the drive onto a new one, and/or restore from backup.
3018 [23:16:32] <petn-randall> leetcool: If you have smartmontools installed, what is the output of 'smartctl -a /dev/sda'?
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3020 [23:16:57] <leetcool> i had 50 gigs of root partition which was almost full and a 200 gigs partition for storing data which had some extra space,
3021 [23:16:57] <leetcool> i used gparted to shrink the volume (which was 200 gigs) to 190 gigs to get extra 10 gigs to expand my root.
3022 [23:16:58] <leetcool> shrink was successful but after that gparted started to move the partion which is now 190gigs to the right.
3023 [23:16:58] <leetcool> meanwhile i was working on something and i got a few warnings for low space on my root. which i ignored because i was freeing some space for it.
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3025 [23:17:06] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Also write down "ddrescue" for after you're done diagnosing this. You may need it.
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3028 [23:18:06] <simonlnu> if he remembers to come back in...
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3033 [23:19:34] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Also write down "ddrescue" for after you're done diagnosing this. You may need it.
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3035 [23:19:47] <leetcool> wtf i got kicked from here
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3037 [23:20:01] <leetcool> for typing something long
3038 [23:20:02] <leetcool> huh
3039 [23:20:03] <petn-randall> leetcool: The bot kicked you for flooding. Try to not paste more than a line into the chat.
3040 [23:20:21] <leetcool> wait then i'll paste my message on web
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3043 [23:20:33] <leetcool> and i'll give you output of systemctl
3044 [23:20:43] <petn-randall> leetcool: The repartitioning part is not relevant to your problem. It's dying hardware.
3045 [23:21:10] <hexnewbie> leetcool: smartctl, not systemctl :) Those are totally different things (and I hadn't noticed how alike they sound)
3046 [23:21:16] <leetcool> yes
3047 [23:21:16] <petn-randall> leetcool: If you have smartmontools installed you could show us the output of 'smartctl -a /dev/sda'.
3048 [23:21:23] <leetcool> my mistake
3049 [23:21:31] <leetcool> my brain is so fucked now
3050 [23:21:34] <leetcool> :'(
3051 [23:21:35] <petn-randall> :)
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3054 [23:23:03] <leetcool> WTF o_O
3055 [23:23:10] <leetcool> there's a change
3056 [23:23:27] <leetcool> a few mins ago all the icons everywhere were having a lock icon
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3058 [23:23:40] <leetcool> now my desktop files don't have that lock icon anymore
3059 [23:24:11] <simonlnu> lock for having been remounted read-only
3060 [23:24:31] <simonlnu> i.e., no write access
3061 [23:24:58] <simonlnu> now you got it back, or your "desktop" is confuzzled.
3062 [23:25:05] <leetcool> simonlnu, i know but how can it change like that
3063 [23:25:28] <simonlnu> check dmesg and syslog
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3066 [23:27:32] <petn-randall> leetcool: You likely have a broken disk and you're potentially loosing all data on it, I wouldn't care about those icons right now.
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3069 [23:28:26] <simonlnu> s/oo/o/ and yeah, it's the least of things.
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3071 [23:28:34] <leetcool> aah.. i'm tring to run firefox but it says it's already running and i cant find it out by ps aux | grep firefox
3072 [23:29:08] <simonlnu> look at smartctl ...
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3082 [23:30:58] <leetcool> smartctl shows no errors
3083 [23:31:14] <leetcool> No Errors Logged
3084 [23:31:26] <petn-randall> leetcool: Show us the output of 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' please.
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3087 [23:31:43] <leetcool> i can't paste cus i can't run firefox
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3089 [23:31:49] <simonlnu> (at a paste site, not in here ;)
3090 [23:32:00] <simonlnu> you have a text browser?
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3093 [23:32:35] <leetcool> idk
3094 [23:32:40] <petn-randall> leetcool: Do you have a live system to boot from? That would probably help since the system you're currently running is booted off the faulty disk.
3095 [23:32:41] <jmcnaught> leetcool: use "smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999"
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3097 [23:33:01] <petn-randall> Or what jmcnaught said.
3098 [23:33:01] <leetcool> petn-randall, i can't reboot cus gparted is at work right now
3099 [23:33:13] <leetcool> let me arrange the output of smartctl
3100 [23:33:14] <simonlnu> there ya go
3101 [23:33:34] <petn-randall> leetcool: I would cancel anything that gparted is doing right now if your disk is broken.
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3103 [23:34:26] <leetcool> gparted is going running fine it didn't reported any errors and if i'll cancel it i will loose all my data.. i think
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3105 [23:34:55] <simonlnu> s/loose/lose/
3106 [23:35:04] <leetcool> replaced-url
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3108 [23:35:10] <leetcool> here is smartctl
3109 [23:35:38] <leetcool> please ignore any typos i'm really scared now
3110 [23:35:56] <petn-randall> leetcool: Oh, you're not even running Debian, you're running Kali.
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3113 [23:36:37] <leetcool> does it have to do anything with the problem? it's basically debian wheezy
3114 [23:36:41] <petn-randall> !kali
3115 [23:36:42] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3118 [23:37:40] <leetcool> means no help from debian?
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3121 [23:38:16] <petn-randall> leetcool: I can only recommend: Buy a new HD, replay your backups onto the working disk. If you have any data on the faulty disk that's not backed up, you might recover it through a live system.
3122 [23:38:42] <petn-randall> leetcool: In any ways I wouldn't boot from that disk, and I certainly wouldn't move partitions around while it has faulty sectors.
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3124 [23:39:12] <petn-randall> leetcool: Yes, we only support Debian in here, no derivatives.
3125 [23:39:25] <leetcool> Thanks petn-randall
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3127 [23:39:33] <leetcool> and others also
3128 [23:39:47] <simonlnu> leetcool: good luck
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3130 [23:39:51] <petn-randall> leetcool: good luck
3131 [23:39:55] <gopnik> Hey, I'm having trouble getting sound set up, I installed alsa-utils, but that doesnt seem to come with alsactl
3132 [23:39:59] <leetcool> i need it so badly
3133 [23:40:01] <leetcool> :'(
3134 [23:40:04] <gopnik> despite what the debian package says
3135 [23:40:27] <petn-randall> leetcool: You do have backups, right?
3136 [23:40:39] <leetcool> no i don't have any backup
3137 [23:40:41] <leetcool> :'(
3138 [23:40:42] <petn-randall> ouch
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3140 [23:40:58] <jmcnaught> gopnik: it's in /usr/sbin which isn't in a regular user's path. Have you tried pavucontrol?
3141 [23:41:10] <leetcool> i think i'll stick around until gparted finishes up completely
3142 [23:41:22] <leetcool> either way i'm going to loose data
3143 [23:41:35] <leetcool> :'(
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3147 [23:42:27] <gopnik> jmcnaught, wow there it is thanks, pavucontrol?
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3150 [23:43:23] <jmcnaught> gopnik: in the package pavucontrol
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3156 [23:44:18] <petn-randall> leetcool: It might not finish until the disk completely dies, as I said, I'd power that disk down and then recover everything I can to a healthy disk.
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3159 [23:45:20] <gopnik> jmcnaught, I installed it now, but I still don't have sound :/
3160 [23:45:31] <gopnik> I did the alsactl init as well from sbin
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3162 [23:46:23] <jmcnaught> gopnik: does the output device look like it's configured properly in pavucontrol? could you please put the output of "aplay -l" and "pacmd list-cards" on replaced-url
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3173 [23:48:26] <gopnik> I am unsure if it is configured properly, here is the paste jmcnaught replaced-url
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3177 [23:50:07] <jmcnaught> gopnik: it looks like you have an HDMI audio output in additition to the regular line-out/headphones. check in pavucontrol that the port is correct (or try different ports)
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3184 [23:53:03] <gopnik> For my Built in audio analog stereo I have it set to speakers, still no sound (I tried the others with the same effet)
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3188 [23:53:53] <gopnik> However the Build In Audio Digital Stero is the HDMI port and can not be changed
3189 [23:53:56] <gopnik> idk if that is a factor
3190 [23:54:17] <gopnik> (My mic is working though)
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3192 [23:54:40] <jmcnaught> gopnik: try running alsamixer. the key F6 is used to select a card. look for muted channels
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3197 [23:56:39] <gopnik> jmcnaught, the channels are all unmuted,
3198 [23:57:03] <gopnik> one comment in pavucontrol my built in adui is listed as the HDMI under configuration
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3200 [23:58:17] <jmcnaught> gopnik: the HDMI audio is from your graphics card. in alsamixer were you looking at the ALC3232 Analog card?
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3202 [23:58:36] <gopnik> Yep
3203 [23:58:51] <gopnik> On the ALC I have all channels unmuted and turned up
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3205 [23:59:29] <jmcnaught> gopnik: are there any "channels" that are toggles?
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