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4 [00:02:38] <awwal> I havGerowen, do you have any gnome extension installed?
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14 [00:07:08] <awwal> :D, mistake :D
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20 [00:09:11] <Storfiskaren> Hey guys, about dist upgrades, it says you shouldn't rely on X sessions managed by xdm, gdm or kdim. Does that mean, I shouldn't perform dist upgrades using a terminal emulator?
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41 [00:13:16] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: You should preferably do it on a console window or at least something that doesn't rely on much (like X, GNOME etc.)
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49 [00:15:15] <Storfiskaren> FinalX: That is, switch to one of the ttys (Ctrl-Alt F1-6)
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56 [00:17:28] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: yeah, that'd be better
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61 [00:19:02] <Storfiskaren> FinalX: Thank you. I have done my upgrades using a terminal emulator so far, but I guess I may have been lucky.
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65 [00:20:25] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: I think they should be fine from any terminal, but it might upgrade things you're using and make stuff act weird. Restarting the window manager would be sufficient in that case, though
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108 [00:38:02] <syadmin> awwal
109 [00:38:27] <syadmin> awwal: you're right sorry. I meant that I cannot "afford" to install a whole DVD :)
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131 [00:47:46] <bryant> herro
132 [00:47:57] <awwal> syadmin, it doesn't matter if you use cd or dvd. if you dont want a desktop environement, just don't select one when prompted for
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146 [00:50:41] <[TheFlash]> what should i do if i want to make a package, but it requires itself as a build-dependency?
147 [00:51:18] <markybob> you look in the mirror and ask yourself wtf you're doing
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151 [00:51:42] <[TheFlash]> markybob: lol, but, in this case it really does
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153 [00:51:49] <[TheFlash]> markybob: freebasic can't be compiled without freebasic
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156 [00:52:25] <[TheFlash]> markybob: mainly because it's written in freebasic
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162 [00:54:24] <syadmin> awwal: but will I be able to select one with the netinstall?
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168 [00:55:59] <markybob> syadmin: yes . which is what i told you to use earlier
169 [00:56:03] <bipul> Do anyone in #iptables channel? could he/she invite me there
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171 [00:56:17] <markybob> bipul: it's #netfilter
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174 [00:56:40] <awwal> syadmin, yes: lxde, xfce, mate, cinnamon, gnome, kde (increasing size)
175 [00:57:12] <bipul> markybob, So it's name become #netfilter?
176 [00:57:34] <syadmin> awwal: great thanks :)
177 [00:57:37] <markybob> bipul: the channel has always been #netfilter
178 [00:58:12] <bipul> Oh i see, thank you markybob
179 [00:58:36] <awwal> syadmin, cinnamon, gnome & kde are the heaviest
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183 [01:00:13] <syadmin> awwal: xfce should be a good choice for debian server in a VM?
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188 [01:01:41] <awwal> syadmin, I dont run a server. can't commment about that
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195 [01:02:23] <teclo-> a server ? Well, for any server, I use no window manager at all
196 [01:02:29] <markybob> syadmin: a server shouldn't have a DE. but if you must, xfce is great. i use it (though on laptop)
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199 [01:03:40] <syadmin> markybob: I know that it shouldnt but I have some tasks to accomplish that would be pretty faster having a DE... so I was looking for something stable and very lightweight :)
200 [01:03:58] <markybob> syadmin: xfce fits that
201 [01:03:59] <awwal> syadmin, xfce
202 [01:04:06] <syadmin> nice :) thanks guys
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259 [01:32:43] <zerothis> I'm trying to compile moria (source via apt-build). no "configure" and "make" finds no targets'
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263 [01:34:15] <markybob> zerothis: you know moria is in debian, right? no need to compile
264 [01:34:34] <zerothis> there is a need if I want to change the source
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266 [01:34:59] <markybob> zerothis: so do apt-get source moria then go into the dir it gets then dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot
267 [01:35:09] <johnkeates> moria in debian? does sauron know?
268 [01:35:10] <markybob> the dpkg-buildpackage after you do the changes
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280 [01:40:09] <zerothis> oh, duh, it doesn't compile if I run it in the wrong directory. It was already working, I'm fixed now
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316 [01:56:39] <MaBunny> is there an app for reading epub extension ebooks
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320 [01:59:01] <markybob> MaBunny: fbreader is one
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322 [01:59:13] <zerothis> thanks
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327 [02:00:06] <MaBunny> fbreader...is it available in the repos and does it hav anything to do with facebook???
328 [02:00:19] <markybob> ,v fbreader
329 [02:00:20] <judd> Package: fbreader on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.10.7dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.12.10dfsg-8; jessie: 0.12.10dfsg-9.1+b1; stretch: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1; sid: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1
330 [02:00:23] <markybob> MaBunny: no
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333 [02:00:56] <MaBunny> ok thnx :)
334 [02:01:04] <Alt__> Hi, how i can modify the services at the start of my S.O.?
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337 [02:03:05] <jmcnaught> Alt__: "S.O." ?
338 [02:03:48] <Alt__> jmcnaught, mistake is O.S
339 [02:03:59] <Alt__> jmcnaught, Operative System
340 [02:04:13] <MaBunny> also do you guys hav heard of conquest,a space exploration game
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342 [02:04:30] <MaBunny> i was searching their irc chan in freenode
343 [02:05:07] <markybob> MaBunny: i've heard of konquest
344 [02:05:18] <markybob> ,v konquest
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346 [02:05:21] <judd> Package: konquest on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-3; jessie: 4:4.14.0-1; stretch: 4:15.08.0-1; sid: 4:15.08.0-2
347 [02:05:22] <MaBunny> no not the KDE
348 [02:05:25] <MaBunny> one
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350 [02:05:53] <MaBunny> replaced-url
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352 [02:06:17] <jmcnaught> Alt__: what exactly do you want to change? are you on Debian 8 using systemd?
353 [02:06:20] <MaBunny> thts their official site
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355 [02:07:06] <markybob> MaBunny: no. debian has freeorion. replaced-url
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357 [02:07:49] <Alt__> jmcnaught, just want to stop some services
358 [02:07:59] <MaBunny> ok...but my computer wont support tht...but thnx :D
359 [02:08:52] <jmcnaught> Alt__: if you're using Debian 8 (jessie) than the default init system changed to systemd. You'd use "systemctl disable SERVICE" to disable a service at boot
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419 [02:37:43] <Yaso> 32132
420 [02:37:44] <Yaso> .
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424 [02:37:47] <Yaso> .
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437 [02:42:29] <ryan57> is checkinstall still the preferred way to build a package from a tarball?
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440 [02:45:03] <abrotman> ryan57: generally, yes
441 [02:45:15] <ryan57> fair enough
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452 [02:52:21] <jml2> i always thought tarballs were a sin in debian
453 [02:53:05] <abrotman> not everything is packaged by maintainers, helps to have tools to control that type of installation
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488 [03:21:25] <ryan57> abrotman: and will this package know to upgrade a package of an older version from the repository? I ask because GMP is being a pain
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492 [03:22:51] <ryan57> abrotman: with the typical 'make install' upgrading gmp.h, but not the environmental variable or whatnot for libgmp, leaving me with a conflict of 6.1/6.0
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494 [03:23:20] <ryan57> abrotman: ?
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523 [03:43:47] <aypea[2]> so in systemd land, how do I get the dmesg output from bootup?
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526 [03:45:54] <markybob> aypea[2]: you type dmesg
527 [03:46:08] <dvs> too easy
528 [03:46:13] <aypea[2]> markybob: that gets me current dmesg. I want to know what boot-up dmesg was
529 [03:46:28] <aypea[2]> markybob: this used to be stored in /var/log/dmesg but is no longer there
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531 [03:47:53] <markybob> aypea[2]: for that you need journalctl and set storage. replaced-url
532 [03:48:09] * aypea[2] has a look-see
533 [03:49:34] <aypea[2]> markybob: wont that be an attempt to store /everything/ since boot? or am I missing something?
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535 [03:50:55] <markybob> aypea[2]: you're right. but you can set filters or time limits or whatever you want
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537 [03:51:16] <machinehum> Are some of the Deb repos down?
538 [03:51:17] <markybob> --since "20 min ago"
539 [03:51:31] <dvs> machinehum, some of them, probably.
540 [03:51:34] <machinehum> Err replaced-url
541 [03:51:36] <machinehum> 403 Forbidden [IP: 132.246.2.23 80]
542 [03:52:07] <aypea[2]> markybob: hmm. sounds like overkill for what I want. I may have to resort to rc.local here. I just need a static store of a tiny bit of info from the "beginning of time".
543 [03:52:12] <markybob> machinehum: yeah that's down here
544 [03:52:21] <dTal> is http-redir smart enough to avoid failing mirrors?
545 [03:52:40] <dvs> machinehum, use replaced-url
546 [03:52:42] <markybob> dTal: no. it kinda sucks
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548 [03:53:43] <markybob> i can never find greycat's httpredir factoid when i need it
549 [03:53:47] <dTal> Huh. Well I don't really know how it works, but it works really well for me
550 [03:55:17] <dvs> !jessie source-list
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552 [03:55:27] <dvs> !jessie sources-list
553 [03:55:32] <dvs> hmmmm
554 [03:56:05] <dvs> !jessie sources.list
555 [03:56:05] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
556 [03:56:34] <markybob> that factoid needs to be changed too.
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559 [03:56:55] <markybob> to include the fact that httpredir sucks and causes a lot of people problems
560 [03:57:20] <aypea[2]> markybob: thanks for your help, btw. looks like I'll be rolling my own init.d script just to keep things simple.
561 [03:57:36] <aypea[2]> /etc/init.d/bootlogs seems to be permanently masked out. :/
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566 [04:00:04] <markybob> !httpredir issues
567 [04:00:05] <dpkg> The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb replaced-url
568 [04:00:07] <markybob> found it
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570 [04:00:34] <dvs> !prize markybob
571 [04:00:34] * dpkg gives markybob a beer.
572 [04:00:55] <markybob> dvs: already had a few, mate. probably why it took me so long to find it ;)
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574 [04:01:04] <dvs> heh
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590 [04:11:51] <markybob> TomTomTosch: do you want a shell account on my server so you can use screen to irc? you join/leave so often :P free of course
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598 [04:15:06] <n_blownapart> hi I'm getting this same problem with duplicates for i386 packages..at least I think its a duplicate problem. my machine is amd64. I'm trying to install haskell. any idea? thanks : replaced-url
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600 [04:16:02] <markybob> n_blownapart: we don't support ubuntu ppa's. we can't.
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602 [04:16:50] <markybob> n_blownapart: that is what your problem is. that ppa has ubuntu releases, not jessie. so it doesn't work, thus 404.
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604 [04:18:03] <n_blownapart> dang thanks markybob
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611 [04:20:28] <n_blownapart> markybob, btw how would I remove the command I did: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:hvr/ghc ?
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613 [04:21:57] <markybob> n_blownapart: it created a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ...just rm it then apt-get update
614 [04:22:47] <n_blownapart> ok markybob thanks a lot
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633 [04:35:22] <TomTomTosch> markybob: thanks man. i have a server though, i'm just too lazy to set it up. i'll do it eventually x)
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639 [04:37:37] <SagelessFox2> I am looking for a light weight desktop
640 [04:37:49] <SagelessFox2> Which offers only a few softwares
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642 [04:38:15] <SagelessFox2> Is there any desktop like that?
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645 [04:38:54] <markybob> SagelessFox2: you need to do your own research because this gets into a touchy topic. i use xfce. it's light and basically just works like i'd expect.
646 [04:39:01] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: lxde calls itself the light desktop. You could try that, xfce4 is kinda light, but you may find you would rather just run a windowmanger and isntall the sfotware you want to
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650 [04:42:04] <SagelessFox2> somiaj : lxde provides a basket of softwares that I don't need. When I am trying to uninstall a mail client on Debian's lxde , it says I must uninstall the whole environment
651 [04:42:23] <SagelessFox2> :(
652 [04:42:32] <markybob> SagelessFox2: no it doesnt. it says you need to uninstall the task package
653 [04:42:39] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: you don't have to install the whole enviroment. You just have to remove the meta package (and then change some of the auto flags.
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655 [04:42:58] <somiaj> If you use apt instead of aptitude you can see which packages it wants to autoremove and change the ones you don't want to manual install
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661 [04:43:52] <SagelessFox2> Hmm..
662 [04:44:23] <markybob> SagelessFox2: do you not know what task/meta means? because that could clarify things
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664 [04:44:49] <SagelessFox2> I am searching about them..
665 [04:44:56] <SagelessFox2> In my first language
666 [04:45:09] <SagelessFox2> I don't know those names
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668 [04:45:38] <markybob> SagelessFox2: they're kind of fake packages that include a ton of packages just to make things easier to install. you don't need them and they contain nothing. they just bring in things when installed
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670 [04:45:58] <markybob> SagelessFox2: when you remove them, the packages they brought in don't get removed
671 [04:46:26] <somiaj> (unless they are marked auto, then without the meta package to hold them in, apt will want to remove them -- aptitude and synamptic will remove them without asking first)
672 [04:46:58] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: the other option is during the isntall don't install the big meta package but only isntall the bits you need.
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675 [04:48:08] <SagelessFox2> So the meta packages aren't necessary I mean they are not the dependences of lxde?
676 [04:48:25] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: they are just packages that depend on other packages to make install groups of packages easier
677 [04:48:40] <markybob> SagelessFox2: correct
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679 [04:49:20] <SagelessFox2> Thx markybob somiaj :)
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794 [06:19:08] <nix1947> hello everyone, lsusb command is hangs forever in my machine
795 [06:19:39] <markybob> nix1947: lsb_release -a says what?
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810 [06:26:08] <markybob> nix1947: it's really great when people ask for help and don't answer questions
811 [06:27:09] <nix1947> markybob: sorry, I just forget to see the client, sorry
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813 [06:27:38] <nix1947> No LSB modules are available.
814 [06:27:38] <nix1947> Distributor ID: Debian
815 [06:27:38] <nix1947> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie)
816 [06:27:38] <nix1947> Release: 8.4
817 [06:27:38] <nix1947> Codename: jessie
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820 [06:28:07] <markybob> yeah figures that would happen
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823 [06:28:17] <nix1947> markybob: I am using debian 8
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842 [06:35:09] <nix1947> markybob: this is the output of lsbrelase -a replaced-url
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864 [06:49:12] <n_blownapart> hi sorry if I download with a curl command but haven't unpacked anything yet, how do I find the file to remove it?
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869 [06:54:43] <n_blownapart> I used this command and would like to remove anything on my system associated with this. How to remove it? : curl -sL replaced-url
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872 [06:56:13] <nix1947> why lsusb hanging forever in my debian 8, does anybody knows about it
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893 [07:04:23] <babilen> n_blownapart: Check your current working directory for the file
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953 [07:33:43] <nix1947> does anyone know the reason behind lsusb command hanging forever
954 [07:33:56] <nix1947> in my debian 8 jessie, lsusb commands hangs forever
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957 [07:37:05] <pseudo> nix1947: which command?
958 [07:37:26] <nix1947> pseudo: #lsusb => this command hangs forever in my debian8
959 [07:37:43] <nix1947> and my all usb port stop responding,
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961 [07:38:44] <pseudo> are you on a vm?
962 [07:39:20] <pseudo> in debian8 with my amd64 its still working
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965 [07:39:58] <pseudo> it detects a all avails usb broadband modem
966 [07:40:18] <pseudo> do u try sudo lsusb?
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974 [07:41:39] <pseudo> hmmmm
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976 [07:42:15] <nix1947> pseudo: I am running as a root user
977 [07:42:42] <pseudo> try start of rebooting a machine? btw issit a server ?
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979 [07:42:47] <nix1947> when i do #lsusb this commands hangs forever, and I need to restart another terminal to work on.
980 [07:43:06] <nix1947> pseudo: yes it is a server, I can't do that,
981 [07:43:46] <pseudo> unplug and free the ysb ports and try execute lsusb
982 [07:43:51] <nix1947> pseudo: I get this kind of wired problems: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.0-1.6/input0, status -108
983 [07:43:51] <nix1947> when I ran dmesg command
984 [07:44:49] <nix1947> pseudo: I have done that, but no change
985 [07:45:32] <pseudo> not sure though...wait for the others to response
986 [07:46:35] <nix1947> pseudo: ok thanks
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988 [07:47:09] <nix1947> pseudo: do you know how to downgrade the usbutils package,
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990 [07:49:30] <pseudo> nix1947: not sure i'm on default setup..
991 [07:49:45] <nix1947> pseudo: ok thanks
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995 [07:52:44] <jmcnaught> nix1947: is the server remote or can you unplug USB devices?
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998 [07:53:16] <nix1947> jmcnaught: the server is on my server, I can plug usb devices,
999 [07:53:56] <nix1947> server is on our server room, I can plug usb devices, but none of the usb devices are recognized, even usb mouse and keyboard, I am accessing server remotely, using ssh
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1001 [07:54:59] <jmcnaught> is anything plugged in right now? if you can't reboot the server, maybe you can try reloading the kernel modules
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1003 [07:56:33] <nix1947> jmcnaught: yes, which module all kernel modules
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1006 [07:57:41] <jmcnaught> nix1947: no not everything. start with "lspci -k | grep -A2 USB"
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1008 [07:58:49] <nix1947> jmcnaught: replaced-url
1009 [07:59:28] <jmcnaught> nix1947: take a look at "lsmod | grep ehci"
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1011 [08:00:34] <nix1947> jmcnaught: replaced-url
1012 [08:01:40] <nix1947> jmcnaught: when i do lsmod all those modules are already lodaded,
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1025 [08:06:36] <jmcnaught> nix1947: if everything USB related is nonresponsive then you could try removing and loading the modules using modprobe, but i don't know what's connected by USB on your system or what the consequences might be.
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1028 [08:07:18] <slax0r> hello, I am having issues when booting back from hibernation, my previos xrandr setup is not retained, and when I re-run it, my whole system freezes, so I have to "push a pillow over its head" and boot it up normally again, here are some logs: xorg: replaced-url
1029 [08:07:22] <jmcnaught> nix1947: from your error example it looks to me like some USB device is locked in a state that the kernel can't change for some reason
1030 [08:07:54] <nix1947> jmcnaught: I connected the usb mouse, keyboard, and backupdrive, backupdrive is working but other usb devices is not working,
1031 [08:08:09] <slax0r> those logs provide me with very little info, or I am just reading them wrong, is there some other log I can inspect? oh right, kernel is 4.5.0 bpo from jessie backports, and the i5 skylake gfx
1032 [08:08:24] <nix1947> jmcnaught: yes, I have got some message usb 2-1.6: reset full-speed USB device number 32 using ehc from my dmesg output
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1034 [08:10:03] <jmcnaught> nix1947: keep researching error message i guess, reloading all the USB modules is not an option while the backup drive is being used
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1036 [08:10:24] <nix1947> jmcnaught: ok thank you for your guidance, I will
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1082 [08:37:46] <avis-> what are possible methods for upgrading to a higher kernel in debian without compiling it yourself ?
1083 [08:38:00] <avis-> using jessie that is
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1085 [08:40:27] <reev> Hii I installled i3 window manager and select i3 from update-alternatives --x-window-manager by default it is metacity but when i restart gdm3 I don't see i3 there, same old setup
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1088 [08:40:35] <reev> how can i configure i3
1089 [08:42:42] <babilen> reev: You essentially select it in the list of window managers in gdm3. It should be listed there and there shouldn't be the need to update alternatives at all
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1093 [08:44:23] <reev> babilen: how to select in list of window managers in gdm3
1094 [08:44:29] <reev> any command?
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1106 [08:52:51] <babilen> reev: You type your user name and hit enter. Then there's a little gear shaped icon, click on it and select your session or, depending on your version, you might have a drop down menu
1107 [08:54:03] <babilen> replaced-url
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1118 [09:02:31] <Guest25335> Has anyone in here been able to install Xen without running into issues?
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1122 [09:04:43] <Guest25335> I'm contemplating to install Qubes OS (for their effortless setup)
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1135 [09:10:21] <reev> babilen: thanks for that but I had automatic user login enabled in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf which i turned off now but i get login by it
1136 [09:10:31] <reev> *still
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1141 [09:12:49] <babilen> reev: I have never used that feature, but I guess that you have to somehow "select" your user's favourite session. It probably uses whatever you used last time.
1142 [09:13:47] <reev> babilen: okay I see what can i do
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1146 [09:15:03] <babilen> But if you turn of automatic login, why is it still turned on?
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1244 [10:13:51] <alakx> Hi, how can i check the build version of a installed package via apt-get ? For example for the package openssl ?
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1254 [10:20:46] <samneo> for checking installed package dpkg -l openssl
1255 [10:21:02] <ochurlaud-work> Hi, I'm trying to find a package. It has the same name in the jessie-backports and jessie repos but I want to use the backport one.
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1257 [10:21:31] <ochurlaud-work> By default, the jone from jessie is installed. how can I force the repo to use?
1258 [10:21:38] <bhav> samneo hi
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1262 [10:21:59] <samneo> apt-get provide information from repository
1263 [10:22:01] <samneo> like apt-cache showpkg openssl
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1266 [10:23:18] <k_sze[work]> How do I figure out how udev has decided to name my tty device? i.e. why is my barcode scanner /dev/ttyACM0, and not some other tty name?
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1269 [10:23:41] <ochurlaud-work> samneo: ok, I see that: it's the same info I got from the debian website. but how do I set that during the install?
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1271 [10:23:49] <ochurlaud-work> so that it peaks the right one?
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1288 [10:32:54] <ochurlaud-work> samneo: found with the aptitude terminal gui. idk with the command line but it's still ok
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1293 [10:34:00] <pingfloyd> ochurlaud-work: apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"
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1295 [10:34:45] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: that's why the -t option never worked ;) Promise I'll RTFM
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1297 [10:34:57] <pingfloyd> ochurlaud-work: what?
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1300 [10:35:32] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: I was using aptitude install -t 5.200 package
1301 [10:35:45] <ochurlaud-work> with 5.200 the version of the package
1302 [10:36:03] <pingfloyd> you don't use version, you use the archive for -t
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1304 [10:37:01] <pingfloyd> actually maybe you can, but did you try the target release instead?
1305 [10:37:22] <pingfloyd> i.e., jessie-backports
1306 [10:37:56] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: I don't know what you mean by target release. but anyway, command is perfect. thx
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1320 [10:47:26] <pingfloyd> ochurlaud-work: good to hear
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1361 [11:13:56] <Arthur_D> could anyone help me with this? replaced-url
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1369 [11:19:17] <phz_> hi
1370 [11:19:47] <phz_> I have a weight balance connected to a tty (/dev/ttyUSBn); I can’t have it around every time, so I’d like to mimic it
1371 [11:20:19] <phz_> is there a way to create a /dev/tty-dummy and have it sending stuff for me to test like a weight balance was plugged in?
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1378 [11:23:32] <ancky> phz_: looks like you want a loopback serialport
1379 [11:23:48] <phz_> well
1380 [11:23:55] <phz_> I need to send stuff in a file
1381 [11:23:56] <phz_> like
1382 [11:23:58] <phz_> hm
1383 [11:24:00] <phz_> in a pipe
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1385 [11:24:14] <phz_> and have a way to read from that pipe
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1406 [11:34:30] <phz_> is there a way to prevent the echo command from sending EOF?
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1409 [11:37:19] <FinalX> not that I know of, no
1410 [11:37:27] <FinalX> only EOL, with -n
1411 [11:37:43] <phz_> ah
1412 [11:37:50] <phz_> that’s boring
1413 [11:38:09] <phz_> I need to find a way to keep the pipe open
1414 [11:38:28] <phz_> I’m reading in the pipe in python
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1418 [11:39:48] <FinalX> not sure how you could go about leaving "echo" running and being able to send more text through the same echo, though. echo would exit and break the pipe
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1424 [11:41:32] <sp4nky> any one here is tired of IT life, anyone wants to join Ian and me tonight ?
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1434 [11:48:24] <phz_> FinalX: hm
1435 [11:48:40] <phz_> I guess I should make my own program then
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1501 [12:36:30] <aypea[2]> goddamn. how hard can it be to tell systemd not to start X11. :/
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1511 [12:45:50] <Megaf> Hi all, I'm on Debian Jessie Backports, I'd like to install linux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64 from experimental, but when I do apt installlinux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64 it wants to remove task-desktop task-mate-desktop xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
1512 [12:45:56] <Megaf> and that is not good
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1517 [12:47:33] <ChrisWi> having some stange log messages flodding my kernel.log ... replaced-url
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1519 [12:48:14] <ChrisWi> I talk about 500 - 1000 per second
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1522 [12:50:44] <plasmoduck> Is there any app to search and play youtube clips in terminal? Audio only obviously.
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1527 [12:52:47] <plasmoduck> mpv
1528 [12:52:54] <Megaf> I know you can download them with youtube-dl and play with mpv, maybe use a terminal browser like w3m to search for them
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1530 [12:53:08] <Megaf> mpv can even play videos in your terminal
1531 [12:53:15] <plasmoduck> Really?
1532 [12:53:16] <plasmoduck> Wow
1533 [12:53:24] <Megaf> but I'm not aware of a console application that can do all 3 things
1534 [12:53:43] <plasmoduck> I might code one
1535 [12:54:03] <Megaf> shoulnd't be too difficult, we already have all tools, as I just said
1536 [12:54:11] <plasmoduck> youterm
1537 [12:54:22] <plasmoduck> youtube-terminal
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1575 [13:12:41] <ychaouche> Hi #debian
1576 [13:12:57] <ychaouche> anyone familiar with this error ? Cancelled or /usr/bin/whiptail execution error(256)
1577 [13:13:08] <ychaouche> I get this when I try to run rcconf
1578 [13:13:13] <ychaouche> replaced-url
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1628 [13:42:16] <f0f4r> can I update apache2.2 in debian wheezy
1629 [13:43:52] <markybob> f0f4r: to what?
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1633 [13:46:38] <f0f4r> to apache2.4 for security update
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1635 [13:47:08] <markybob> f0f4r: no. apache 2.2 in wheezy gets security updates backported. it's safe
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1637 [13:47:21] <phz_> I don’t get it
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1639 [13:47:34] <phz_> I’m using tee to forward stdin into a disk pipe
1640 [13:47:41] <phz_> like
1641 [13:47:48] <phz_> mkfifo ./tty; tee > tty
1642 [13:48:04] <phz_> and I’m opening that tty pipe in a python application with open('./tty', 'r', 0)
1643 [13:48:17] <phz_> to read what I’m typing in with a for line in fh
1644 [13:48:23] <phz_> I have to exit the tee program to get input
1645 [13:48:28] <phz_> wtf?
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1647 [13:48:38] <jelly> is called "named pipe", and the reads will be buffered by default
1648 [13:48:47] <phz_> until it reaches EOF?
1649 [13:48:58] <jelly> so if you write more than... 8192 bytes, I think, you'll get a read() out
1650 [13:49:02] <phz_> I tried running it with stdbuf -i0 -o0 -e0 though
1651 [13:49:17] <phz_> jelly: how can I change that behavior?
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1653 [13:50:13] <jelly> dunno how that's done in python. Actually I don't even remember if the buffering is write() side or read() side or both
1654 [13:50:49] <jelly> replaced-url
1655 [13:51:07] <phz_> replaced-url
1656 [13:51:10] <phz_> not that much information there
1657 [13:51:41] <ChrisWi> Megaf: Yes ... xen. I have 4 hosts ... but I see this only on two. the two with this log flodding have 2 targets (LUN) ... Any idea ?
1658 [13:51:50] <phz_> jelly:
1659 [13:51:56] <phz_> thanks for your help
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1662 [13:52:44] <phz_> nope, still buffering
1663 [13:52:46] <phz_> ffs
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1669 [13:54:11] <jelly> phz_: at least one of the results suggests opening in binary mode, 'rb'
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1671 [13:55:18] <f0f4r> markybob: I don't see any candidate version replaced-url
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1673 [13:56:38] <markybob> f0f4r: you have the latest. you're good. safe. i don't know what you're complaining about.
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1677 [13:57:50] <sypher> f0f4r: You already have the latest 2.2 release with backported security fixes. Is there a particular vulnerability that you find hasn't been addressed?
1678 [13:58:21] <FinalX> heh, we keep getting mails from worried customers as well, "you're running a very old apache and php! why haven't you upgraded! it's not safe!"... all patches applied, of course.
1679 [13:58:41] <FinalX> people just see older versions and immediately assume things are insecure tbh
1680 [13:58:56] <f0f4r> I would like to know if there is any cve that my webserver has
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1682 [13:59:14] <Megaf> ChrisWi, maybe on #Xen ?
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1684 [13:59:52] <markybob> f0f4r: you really just can't accept that security gets backported, eh? we're not going to do your meaningless work for you. google it.
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1687 [14:00:29] <jelly> f0f4r: use security-tracker.debian.org to look up any CVE and see if it's patched
1688 [14:00:38] <jelly> also,
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1690 [14:00:42] <jelly> !debsecan
1691 [14:00:42] <dpkg> methinks debsecan is a program that reports security advisories against programs installed on the host, similar to gentoo's glsa-check. See replaced-url
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1697 [14:01:30] <f0f4r> jelly: ok, I will try to that site
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1699 [14:02:30] <jelly> f0f4r: if a patch for a known security issue is applied to the version in your debian release, you will usually see it mentioned in the changelog for the package. zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/changelog.Debian.gz
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1710 [14:04:45] <jelly> markybob: sometimes an admin has bosses, auditors or customers that want more concrete proof than "<markybob> f0f4r: you have the latest. you're good. safe. i don't know what you're complaining about."
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1714 [14:05:51] <jelly> distro's security tracker is a useful reference for such a purpose
1715 [14:05:54] <irwiss> does dpkg care if something is a real folder or symlink? i'd like to move /etc/nginx/ to /replaced-url
1716 [14:06:27] <f0f4r> Using debsecan I don't see any cve for apache
1717 [14:06:33] <f0f4r> Using debsecan I don't see any cve for apache
1718 [14:07:14] <jelly> irwiss: afair, you can only get in trouble after you purge all the packages that bring /etc/nginx directory, I _think_ that gets the symlink removed
1719 [14:07:20] <domth7> Hi, my browser (Arora, surf, uzbl) crash, and i've found this messege in the term:"Illegal Instruction". My pc is too old, any ideas?
1720 [14:07:24] <ChrisWi> Megaf: ok will try ... you have no idea about those messages to get rid off ?
1721 [14:07:40] <Megaf> nope
1722 [14:08:16] <jelly> f0f4r: that means it's all patched up, as far as debian knows
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1724 [14:09:51] <jelly> assuming you're using debsecan right. Mine just found something very very old on this machine...
1725 [14:09:53] <jelly> ii apache-common 1.3.34-4.1+etch1 i386 support files for all Apache webservers
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1727 [14:12:09] <irwiss> jelly: that makes sense i guess, not planning on purging but backup is on the roadmap once it's settled, thanks
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1753 [14:25:47] <AlexPortable> No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources
1754 [14:26:00] <AlexPortable> you may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this is only recommended for experts
1755 [14:26:13] <AlexPortable> debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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1758 [14:26:38] <digidog> Hi hello everyone, I am sort of confused: Laptop ACER V3 772G suddenly reboots without warning randomly with Debian 8 installed, no matter which application runs or if CPU etc is high or not.
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1760 [14:28:14] <ChrisH> digidog: mcelog installed? That might help detecting a HW issue. Sounds more like a HW problem to me.
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1767 [14:33:27] <cruncher> digidog, and it worked well before?
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1774 [14:35:14] <cruncher> or did you just install debian?
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1779 [14:36:23] <digidog> ChrisH: cruncher: hard to say, its a laptop I have prepared for somebody who didnt used it a lot. now it stands here and I test it and it seems sth wrong. cpu goes up 72% when I try to remove hplip. maybe thats the devil
1780 [14:37:10] <digidog> shutdown mostly is regarding overhead (security stop)
1781 [14:37:28] <cruncher> so you just installed it, it works, but has high cpu usage, and suddenly reboots (not poweroff)
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1784 [14:39:25] <cruncher> digidog, overhead? you mean overheat? so it turns off, not reboots
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1786 [14:39:46] <digidog> cruncher: Isry, yes I was referring to heat.
1787 [14:40:01] <cruncher> then i guess its a hw problem
1788 [14:40:02] <digidog> cruncher: it sometomes shuts down, sometimes reboots
1789 [14:40:24] <digidog> cruncher: I have remove hplip now and now cpu usage goes down to 55
1790 [14:40:36] <digidog> remove(d)
1791 [14:40:45] <cruncher> so what is using the cpu?
1792 [14:41:15] <cruncher> but basically its clear, somethig is using the cpu, it gets hot, and as it cant cool it enough it turns off
1793 [14:41:21] <cruncher> basically you have 2 problems
1794 [14:41:26] <digidog> cruncher: hplip 12 %. maybe its more obvious today since here are 30 degress so the room is much warmer
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1796 [14:42:00] <cruncher> yes, that too :) if you would sit in alaska it wouldnt happen probably :P
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1798 [14:42:14] <digidog> cruncher: now it runs normal after removing hplip -> replaced-url
1799 [14:42:23] <digidog> cruncher: :-D
1800 [14:42:45] <cruncher> well, if you identified hplip as the culprit...
1801 [14:43:09] <cruncher> im particularly interested because i was thinking to get the E5-773 laptop, and was curious how it works with debian
1802 [14:43:18] <digidog> cruncher: I agree with you, I think also there are more then one issue. maybe hplip messed up somehow and eats a lot, but thats with 12% not issue enogh for the overheat actually
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1804 [14:44:38] <Trieste> hey, /proc/cpuinfo says both cores of my cpu are running at around 230MHz (this is a 3.3GHz machine at full load) - what could this mean?
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1806 [14:45:21] <digidog> cruncher: any good hw test utisl for debian to check if all cores runs ok etc ?
1807 [14:45:27] <markybob> it means it's on
1808 [14:45:42] <Trieste> markybob: but why is the frequency so low?
1809 [14:45:44] <dTal> I was gonna say that they've been clocked down for powersave, but that seems unusually low
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1812 [14:45:51] <markybob> i have chrome alone using 26% right now
1813 [14:46:03] <Trieste> markybob: the cores themselves are running at 230 MHz
1814 [14:47:07] <Trieste> dTal: I was thinking it's hardware failure, as I do recall a weird message about overheating appearing once in dmesg - but not since, and I've even cleaned the fans, and changed nothing in BIOS...
1815 [14:47:17] <markybob> i've never seen that. the computer would always shut itself off if it got so hot it had to run that slowly
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1817 [14:48:07] <cruncher> digidog, did you try what ChrisH suggested?
1818 [14:48:44] <dTal> Trieste: if you switch your CPU governor to "Performace" does it go to full speed?
1819 [14:48:56] <dTal> maybe your CPU just supports unusually low clock speeds
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1821 [14:49:00] <Trieste> dTal: how would I do that?
1822 [14:49:52] <Trieste> (by the way, the load is roughly about at 2.5)
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1825 [14:50:45] <dTal> depends on your chipset, usually you can cat something somewhere in /sys
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1827 [14:51:15] <digidog> cruncher: sry, that was run out of the view here
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1831 [14:51:45] <digidog> ChrisH: sry, I didn't kep in mind your answer. I will check
1832 [14:51:58] <Trieste> ooh, so there is something interesting in dmesg after all
1833 [14:52:23] <Trieste> "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled" and "Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled"
1834 [14:52:38] <Trieste> but what the heck
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1836 [14:53:22] <cruncher> digidog, you could try the intel processor diagnostic tool from Intel
1837 [14:53:24] <cruncher> replaced-url
1838 [14:53:29] <cruncher> but i dont know if it works with debian
1839 [14:53:48] <cruncher> but honestly i doubt the cpu is "broken"
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1842 [14:55:43] <javier_> Hace días que no puedo conectarme a ddtp.debian.net, el sitio de traducción de la descripción de paquetes de Debian.
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1844 [14:56:08] <markybob> !es
1845 [14:56:08] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
1846 [14:56:16] <javier_> Sorry, this is the general channel, not the spanish one
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1848 [14:56:38] <javier_> I'm sorry.
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1851 [14:58:12] <javier_> These days, the package tranlation site seems to be off line. Anybody knows why?
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1859 [15:02:14] <telecity> mail question: what if I just want to send via CLI a few logging-related mails to an external mailbox, nothing more.. as minimalistic as possible - what can I use?
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1879 [15:10:37] <gypsymauro> hi
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1882 [15:10:58] <gypsymauro> there is a way to inver the priority of the routing based on interfaces?
1883 [15:11:24] <gypsymauro> I've an openvpn server, but I found that the eth0's routes are displayed before the tun0 ones
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1893 [15:14:17] <darxmurf> anybody for a quick mysql help ?
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1895 [15:14:49] <ChrisH> !ask
1896 [15:14:49] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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1901 [15:15:31] <darxmurf> I have mysql entries like "/This is my text 2015/picture.jpg" and I want to turn it like "/2015 This is my text/picture.jpg"
1902 [15:15:41] <darxmurf> and of course I have this from 2005 to 2015
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1904 [15:16:04] <darxmurf> is there any regex+back ref. tools in mysql ?
1905 [15:16:32] <abrotman> darxmurf: thought about asking .. #mysql ?
1906 [15:16:33] <FinalX> UPDATE sometable SET somefield=REPLACE(somefield,'/xxx//','/yyy/');
1907 [15:16:42] <darxmurf> yep
1908 [15:16:56] <darxmurf> but I have lots of different "text" before the year
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1910 [15:17:08] <darxmurf> abrotman: yep :) I'll try
1911 [15:17:13] <petn-randall> darxmurf: You can probably build a (Perl) script that does that. Are you using some kind of photo manager? Most allow bulk moving files via plugin.
1912 [15:17:42] <darxmurf> yep it's a gallery tool for WP but it's not managing files quite well O
1913 [15:17:43] <darxmurf> Oo
1914 [15:17:55] <darxmurf> if you rename a folder it does not change the mysql entries \o/
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1917 [15:18:05] <defanor> telecity: there are programs such as sSMTP if you want to use a remote server, and postfix or exim otherwise. or even mbsync, if you want to put letters in a remote mailbox via imap
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1919 [15:18:24] <FinalX> darxmurf: worst case scenario, if it really is just a wordpress database, perhaps just dump it, do it with commandline tools like sed, and then re-read the dump back in?
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1927 [15:19:14] <telecity> defanor: yup, remote-only
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1929 [15:19:42] <darxmurf> FinalX: yep I was thinking about that too :)
1930 [15:19:52] <darxmurf> but will check in mysql tools before
1931 [15:20:21] <telecity> defanor: what about nullmailer?
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1934 [15:20:27] <darxmurf> but it will probably quite easier to do that with SED
1935 [15:20:27] <darxmurf> :D
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1939 [15:21:07] <telecity> darxmurf: so what's stopping you to do dump the db, purge and then re-add after seding?
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1941 [15:21:13] <FinalX> yeah.. :) and this also confirms that you can't do regex, replaced-url
1942 [15:21:17] <FinalX> telecity: I just said that xD
1943 [15:21:33] <telecity> FinalX: sorry didn't pay attention
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1949 [15:22:33] <defanor> telecity: idk, haven't tried it
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1951 [15:22:39] <darxmurf> okay apparently there is no regex replace tools in mysql, let's go for the dump :)
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1953 [15:22:49] <j`ey> hi, Im in the installer, and dropped to the ash shell. i'm trying to mount my hard disk, but just keep getting "file or directory not found" errors from mount
1954 [15:22:52] <j`ey> any ideas?
1955 [15:23:03] <j`ey> (I have mkdir /mnt/x, so it does exist)
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1959 [15:23:57] <telecity> j`ey: you're trying to mount a partition or the whole disk?
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1961 [15:24:07] <j`ey> partition
1962 [15:24:19] <telecity> j`ey: does it show up on 'blkid' or 'lsblk'?
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1964 [15:24:39] <j`ey> yep
1965 [15:24:58] <telecity> j`ey: with the correct fs type?
1966 [15:25:00] <dvs> both?
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1968 [15:25:11] <j`ey> blkid, I dont have lsblk
1969 [15:25:24] <j`ey> telecity: yeah, ext4
1970 [15:25:52] <telecity> wu
1971 [15:25:53] <telecity> wut
1972 [15:25:59] <telecity> aren't they both from "util-linux"
1973 [15:26:30] <telecity> file -s "full-path"
1974 [15:26:31] <j`ey> I guess blkid might be from busybox?
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1977 [15:26:54] <jelly> telecity: "in the installer"
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1979 [15:27:29] <telecity> jelly: indeed i missed that part
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1981 [15:27:51] <AlexPortable> how to install linux kernel?
1982 [15:27:56] <AlexPortable> apt-get ?
1983 [15:28:03] <naptastic> apt-get install linux-image
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1985 [15:28:10] <naptastic> I think
1986 [15:28:14] <fireba11> (or just "apt" on jessie)
1987 [15:28:27] <naptastic> but if you're already running Debian, you already have a kernel installed :)
1988 [15:28:30] <FinalX> ...I couldn't get used to "just apt" :)
1989 [15:28:37] <naptastic> fireba11, what?? OMG
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1991 [15:28:47] <fireba11> FinalX: ah well ... it got a progess bar(tm) :-D
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1993 [15:28:54] <FinalX> :D
1994 [15:29:00] <telecity> j`ey: try "file -s" with proceeding full path to the disk/part
1995 [15:29:14] <AlexPortable> naptastic: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources. you may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this is only recommended for experts
1996 [15:29:15] <FinalX> it's more that apt-get is kinda hardwired when I'm typing
1997 [15:29:16] <j`ey> I dont have "file" :(
1998 [15:29:50] <AlexPortable> Package linux-image is not avaiiable, but is referred to by another package
1999 [15:29:50] <FinalX> so much that if I need to use apt-cache, I already typed apt-get and then have to backspace 4 times and type cache ;)
2000 [15:29:53] <naptastic> FinalX, yep... and RHEL / CentOS are going from yum -> dnf in a couple of years...
2001 [15:29:55] <AlexPortable> e: package linux-image has no intallation candidate
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2003 [15:30:12] <digidog> cruncher: thanks for all the cues. well yeah I doubt its the cpu two. but I will try more hw test utils and check if anything intersting pops up and let you know (because of ACER)
2004 [15:30:12] <fireba11> FinalX: also it seems you still need things like apt-cache
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2009 [15:30:29] <fireba11> AlexPortable: how did you manage that?
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2011 [15:30:34] <naptastic> AlexPortable, what version of Debian is this? `cat /etc/debian_version`
2012 [15:30:41] <AlexPortable> debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
2013 [15:30:43] <naptastic> also, yeah, what did you do? :|
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2015 [15:30:47] <naptastic> ok
2016 [15:30:49] <AlexPortable> i installed it
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2018 [15:30:55] <AlexPortable> and it said this
2019 [15:30:55] <FinalX> oops, which reminds me, I have to send an e-mail back to the guy who helped me when I e-mailed the APT-maintainers.. I'm awful, didn't even thank him o.O
2020 [15:30:58] <telecity> j`ey: oh well. does "dmesg" show you any hints?
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2022 [15:31:09] <gypsymauro> it seems that newver versions of debian has changed rourint priority ? on older debian I've 192.168.1.0 routing then 0.0.0.0 on newer I've before 0.0.0.0 then 192.168.1.0, how can I change this behavioour?
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2027 [15:31:40] <j`ey> telecity: nope :(
2028 [15:31:53] <naptastic> AlexPortable, what's the output of `uname -a` ?
2029 [15:31:54] <telecity> j`ey: strace the mount? idk
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2031 [15:32:16] <j`ey> no strace either :P
2032 [15:32:22] <AlexPortable> naptastic linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 smp debian 3.16.7-ckt25-1 (2016-03-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2033 [15:32:23] <defanor> j`ey: stat? ls?
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2035 [15:32:49] <j`ey> ls works, and shows both the /dev/sda1 and /mnt/x exist
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2037 [15:33:07] <naptastic> AlexPortable, ok, try `apt install linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64`
2038 [15:33:20] <fireba11> naptastic: not that good an idea
2039 [15:33:25] <AlexPortable> thanks that worked
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2041 [15:33:30] <naptastic> O_O
2042 [15:33:31] <dvs> too late
2043 [15:33:43] <telecity> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/x -> "no such file or directory"?
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2045 [15:33:47] <telecity> j`ey:
2046 [15:33:54] <AlexPortable> telecity: does x exists?
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2048 [15:34:03] <j`ey> telecity: yes
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2053 [15:34:26] <fireba11> AlexPortable: naptastic: you want some soet of meta package usually like linux-image-amd64
2054 [15:34:30] <j`ey> "mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/x failed: no such file or directory"
2055 [15:34:51] <telecity> j`ey: can you cd to /mnt/x?
2056 [15:35:05] <\renaud> is there still a nspluginwrapper package somewhere? Or is there any other way to run 32bit java app in 64bit OS?
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2058 [15:35:18] <j`ey> telecity: yup
2059 [15:35:29] <FinalX> fireba11: that progress bar is creeping me out
2060 [15:35:40] <FinalX> just gave it a go :)
2061 [15:35:42] <fireba11> FinalX: :-D
2062 [15:35:48] <telecity> j`ey: cat < /dev/sda1 > /tmp/a0 = and this works?
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2065 [15:36:53] <j`ey> that did work (except it failed with run out of space on device error)
2066 [15:37:05] <fireba11> FinalX: there are some other new things like apt update reports back if there are things you could upgrade
2067 [15:37:10] <telecity> j`ey: yea should've used /dev/null.. my bad
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2072 [15:37:36] <FinalX> fireba11: yeah, I noticed, pretty sweet. then again, it's only for my own server.. most servers are managed through puppet with unattended upgrades and all, too :)
2073 [15:37:52] <telecity> j`ey: i think you should message "jelly", i'm useless further
2074 [15:37:54] <j`ey> telecity: going to reboot, think that messed stuff up
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2078 [15:39:08] <fireba11> FinalX: depends. i got 7 debian servers but all with very different tasks. i upgrade manually because some upgrades might require a restart of a 3rd party application of a maintenance window. puppet is for several servers with similar or identical tasks
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2087 [15:40:32] <FinalX> sure, we have that too, but most things can be upgraded without any issue
2088 [15:40:46] <FinalX> database software i won't, obviously
2089 [15:41:02] <FinalX> openssh/openssl etc however can and should be upgraded asap
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2092 [15:41:41] <defanor> j`ey: is that device listed in fstab?
2093 [15:42:01] <j`ey> I would guess not, since it's in the installer
2094 [15:42:05] <AlexPortable> fireba11: can't i install that after reboot?
2095 [15:42:08] <AlexPortable> or best to just reinstall now
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2100 [15:44:26] <dvs> AlexPortable, reinstall? You can install linux-image-amd64 and it won't interfere with anything
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2103 [15:44:33] <AlexPortable> well i have now the special package
2104 [15:44:34] <fireba11> AlexPortable: it's not THAT important ... it just will prevent your kernel from getting dist-upgraded with the newxt new release automatically if you amnually install a specific kernel
2105 [15:44:35] <AlexPortable> should i remove it again?
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2108 [15:44:50] <AlexPortable> oh
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2120 [15:47:35] <darxmurf> okay, mysqldump + vim = yay
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2122 [15:47:43] <telecity> darxmurf: vim?
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2124 [15:47:57] <petn-randall> telecity: vim can do regex replaces.
2125 [15:48:02] <FinalX> vim can do sed stuff fine, too :)
2126 [15:48:09] <telecity> petn-randall: yes, but I was under the impression he'd go for sed
2127 [15:48:12] <FinalX> arguably easier than with sed tbh
2128 [15:48:16] <FinalX> heh, me too
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2163 [16:04:56] <darxmurf> telecity:
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2166 [16:05:33] <darxmurf> telecity: yep, simple: s,'/\([^/]*\) \(20[0-9]\{2\}\)/,'/\2 \1/,g
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2176 [16:11:41] <digidog> how can I remove packages whithout the automatically remove of other packages and the new packages which try to replace its functionality?
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2182 [16:15:16] <digidog> when I try to remove firefox-ESR, ikt gets weird and want to install many kde components o.@
2183 [16:16:11] <petn-randall> digidog: Which release are you running?
2184 [16:16:26] <digidog> petn-randall: Debian 8 stretch
2185 [16:16:50] <petn-randall> digidog: Debian 8 is jessie, testing is stretch.
2186 [16:17:00] <digidog> petn-randall: *facepalm*
2187 [16:17:05] <digidog> yeah you are right ...
2188 [16:17:22] <digidog> moment, let me check again, since its another machine I amintain for sb
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2190 [16:18:02] <digidog> petn-randall: its stretch ... O.M.G
2191 [16:18:20] <petn-randall> digidog: You could also paste the output of 'apt-cache policy' to replaced-url
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2193 [16:18:44] <digidog> petn-randall: ok, I'll do it ...
2194 [16:19:20] <digidog> petn-randall: is ix.io ok too ? I can'T open a browser on that machine atm
2195 [16:19:42] <digidog> petn-randall: replaced-url
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2218 [16:28:45] <[sr]> howdy
2219 [16:29:03] <[sr]> i have two debian machines that when i update kernel to +4.x
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2221 [16:29:13] <[sr]> it hangs on boot in services like bind
2222 [16:29:20] <[sr]> very wierd, anyone has a clue on that?
2223 [16:29:45] <[sr]> i have udev/kmod/init scripts, and almost all packages on the system updated
2224 [16:29:56] <[sr]> very odd, never happened such thing to me
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2254 [16:41:13] <petn-randall> [sr]: Which release are you running on both of them?
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2256 [16:41:37] <[sr]> petn-randall: sid
2257 [16:41:53] <petn-randall> [sr]: What CPUs do they have?
2258 [16:42:00] <[sr]> it's something only with this two machines, all others work OK
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2260 [16:42:13] <petn-randall> [sr]: i386 arch by any chance?
2261 [16:42:13] <[sr]> petn-randall: hyper-V VM's
2262 [16:42:30] <[sr]> petn-randall: amd arch
2263 [16:43:14] <petn-randall> [sr]: You can add remove 'quiet splash' from the kernel parameter line in grub, maybe that will show you some more information.
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2267 [16:44:03] <[sr]> petn-randall: im using lilo, no splash, i see all messages
2268 [16:44:11] <petn-randall> [sr]: Also check /var/log/daemon.log for any errors. And 'systemd-analyze critical-chain' to check where exactly it hangs.
2269 [16:44:17] <[sr]> no splash or framebuffer or so
2270 [16:44:40] <petn-randall> [sr]: Since most things are started in parallel, it may seem that it hangs because of A, but in reality it's because of B.
2271 [16:45:12] <[sr]> can be a fact
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2282 [16:49:03] <defanor> i consider using debian packages to deploy/update programs at work, but those programs usually require packages that are either not present or too old in debian repositories, so they use language-dependent package managers. some of those are compiled and linked statically with the libraries, and others are interpreted. should i just hack things in the `rules` file, is there a better way, or is it a bad idea to use deb packages for that?
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2286 [16:50:20] <LowValueTarget> I am having issues in a wheezy install where titlebar and title fonts are showing as rectangle boxes. Obviously it seems like a fonts issue or a locale issue, but nothing I've done seems to fix it. Anyone have experience with this issue?
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2290 [16:51:48] <petn-randall> defanor: I try to use Debian packages where I can, simply because I don't have to track security updates in those packages. If you can't use them, because they're too old or built with different flags than you need, you have to weave them into the deployment part of your system. There's really no general best practice for that, as every language cooks their own stuff.
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2292 [16:51:57] <defanor> LowValueTarget: try to set another font in your window manager, and/or check its logs, maybe
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2294 [16:52:09] <LowValueTarget> defanor: i've done that
2295 [16:52:12] <LowValueTarget> nothing of note in the logs
2296 [16:52:40] <LowValueTarget> Also, if it helps, this just started happening on a 6-month old install
2297 [16:54:11] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: Can you show us the output of 'apt-cache policy' on replaced-url
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2299 [16:55:15] <digidog> petn-randall: replaced-url
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2301 [16:55:48] <defanor> petn-randall: i guess i'll try and see how it'll work (and how cumbersome it'll be) then. thanks
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2303 [16:56:06] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: Sure thing. It's actually a Kali Linux install. replaced-url
2304 [16:56:31] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: In that case you can ask again in the proper channel.
2305 [16:56:33] <petn-randall> !kali
2306 [16:56:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2308 [16:56:57] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: AFAIR they now have a rolling release, so it's bound to run into problems all the time.
2309 [16:57:07] <LowValueTarget> makes sense
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2311 [16:57:26] <LowValueTarget> I should probably run debian proper and make my own tools repo ;)
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2314 [16:58:00] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: I never understand why people install Kali as their base system. Every person needing Kali and being of sound mind uses it in a VM.
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2318 [16:58:17] <LowValueTarget> It's a secondary system petn-randall. My second laptop
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2320 [16:58:25] <shiki> can I install the libpurple telegram plugin on Debian?
2321 [16:58:31] <LowValueTarget> I actually use it as intended, as my job requires it
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2329 [16:59:53] <LowValueTarget> I only use the machine in engagements, and I prefer direct access to the hardware
2330 [17:00:00] <digidog> how to remove packages without being forced to install alternative packages in terminal ?
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2336 [17:01:43] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: and I guess my google fu failed me
2337 [17:01:44] <LowValueTarget> replaced-url
2338 [17:01:48] <petn-randall> digidog: testing/sid are support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, let's continue discussing it there.
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2340 [17:02:07] <shiki> digidog: --no-install-recommends or apt-get download and dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/...
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2342 [17:02:19] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: As I said, it's not a Debian issue, so please ask in #kali.
2343 [17:02:19] <digidog> petn-randall: sure. thank you. I am already over there.
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2345 [17:02:40] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: not asking anymore
2346 [17:02:44] <LowValueTarget> but i can take a hint
2347 [17:02:51] <LowValueTarget> have a good one -- peace
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2358 [17:06:37] <\renaud> is there a way to run a 32 bit java plugin with a 64 bit debian?
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2360 [17:08:32] <petn-randall> \renaud: You can install the 32 bit libraries needed for that.
2361 [17:08:40] <petn-randall> !foreign arch
2362 [17:08:47] <\renaud> but then you still have a 64 bit browser
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2364 [17:09:00] <petn-randall> \renaud: Probably not, depends on the details.
2365 [17:09:11] <petn-randall> \renaud: Is there a reason you want to install a 32 bit java?
2366 [17:09:12] <parcs> uh oh, apt wants to remove libc6
2367 [17:09:21] <\renaud> petn-randall: yes, I need to run webex
2368 [17:09:26] <FinalX> who would have a need for that!
2369 [17:09:28] <nkuttler> !tell parcs about bat
2370 [17:09:30] <\renaud> and webex doesn't support 64 bit java
2371 [17:10:02] <nkuttler> can't you just install a 32bit browser as well?
2372 [17:10:21] <\renaud> then how do I choose to launch the 32 bit browser for webex and not for the rest?
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2374 [17:10:51] <nkuttler> not sure you can install both at the same time, but if you can just use the full path..
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2376 [17:11:03] <\renaud> won't they have both the same name?
2377 [17:11:10] <nkuttler> probably
2378 [17:11:14] <\renaud> if I do apt-get install iceweasel:i386
2379 [17:11:29] <\renaud> it will conflict with iceweasel:amd64
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2381 [17:11:55] <nkuttler> yeah, so pick one. or use a vm, or a different browser, or avoid such software..
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2383 [17:12:15] <\renaud> I cannot avoid that software, and I am running in a VM atm, but I expected a cleaner solution
2384 [17:12:25] <FinalX> or bootstrap i386 debian into a dir and run it chrooted :P
2385 [17:13:06] <\renaud> at some point, there was nspluginwrapper which allowed to run 32bit java in 64 bit proxy, but the package deosn't exist anymore
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2387 [17:13:17] <nkuttler> fwiw, my first search result for that has a guide for ubuntu that only installs a few 32bit libs
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2390 [17:13:55] <\renaud> s/proxy/browser/
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2398 [17:15:03] <\renaud> I tried to install the 32bit libs in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and then start it, but that fails
2399 [17:15:37] <\renaud> (and yes, I did ldconfig)
2400 [17:16:27] <FinalX> what about libc6-i386 ?
2401 [17:16:35] <FinalX> or was that the one you tried?
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2403 [17:16:59] <\renaud> I did that, and also installed all the java libss listed in the ldd of webex
2404 [17:17:03] <FinalX> ah
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2408 [17:17:21] <\renaud> and compiling the old nspluginwrapper fails on me too
2409 [17:17:23] <petn-randall> \renaud: It's probably easier and less error prone to just maintain a 32-bit chroot with the necessary packages.
2410 [17:17:23] <\renaud> //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
2411 [17:17:41] <\renaud> yes, I think it's the only way to go
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2413 [17:17:59] <petn-randall> \renaud: You just need the 32 bit browser installed, it can run under your (non-chrooted) X11.
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2415 [17:18:31] <\renaud> wasn't there a package to populate a chroot?
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2420 [17:21:00] <\renaud> debootstrap
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2438 [17:28:56] <PrimalHunter> Hi, a short question as I'm not entirely sure how it's handled. If you login via SSH using only a key file does that mean the user you're logging in with doesn't have a password?
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2440 [17:29:14] <FinalX> no, they are seperate
2441 [17:29:31] <FinalX> a user can have a password, and have an authorized ssh key, or both, or neither
2442 [17:30:08] <FinalX> password authentication can be disabled in the ssh daemon, so only authorized ssh key auth is allowed, or vice versa, or to allow both
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2447 [17:33:30] <telecity> don't forget to disable ChallengeResponse, too
2448 [17:33:36] <telecity> if you're going for the password
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2452 [17:34:57] <PrimalHunter> Ok. So that part should be ok. The real issue I'm working on is understanding the mail-server configuration. As much as it shames me it seems like someone is trying to send spam using my mail server and i can't really tell why (yet).
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2455 [17:35:54] <telecity> PrimalHunter: misconfiguration sounds like a likely scenario
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2457 [17:36:13] <telecity> PrimalHunter: which MTA?
2458 [17:37:28] <PrimalHunter> Probably, yes. it's postfix and I am seeing some Probably. "Relay access denied;" messages. I've pretty much tracked it down to a line which looks like a valid login. The quesiton is if for some reason the password isn't checked for the SMTP access or if the password for that account was leaked somehow. Both cases are pretty ... bad.
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2460 [17:38:05] <petn-randall> telecity: Either your MTA is set up as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is sending them (you may have some broken web application running on it?), or you've got a trojan.
2461 [17:38:18] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Either your MTA is set up as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is sending them (you may have some broken web application running on it?), or you've got a trojan.
2462 [17:38:24] <petn-randall> telecity: sorry, wrong autocomplete
2463 [17:38:30] <telecity> petn-randall: np
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2467 [17:39:28] <PrimalHunter> Meh... all pretty bad. I guess it's PW changeing time ... for all accounts on that server. Thanks for hints and helping clearing it up so quickly. :)
2468 [17:39:28] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Check /var/log/mail.log where the actual spam comes from. You can also paste those lines + some context to replaced-url
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2472 [17:39:53] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Do you know it's from any user on that system?
2473 [17:40:03] <telecity> PrimalHunter: you asked a question about passwords at first.. using PAM for your MTA?
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2475 [17:40:25] <abrotman> PrimalHunter: you can have postfix use a different mechanism
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2479 [17:43:18] <PrimalHunter> Those are the parts in mail.log that I found that show when the spam starts replaced-url
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2483 [17:48:48] <PrimalHunter> And this would be my current postfix config. replaced-url
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2485 [17:49:16] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Looks like your SASL setup is somehow broken. Is seth@sturdy-byte.net a valid user on that system?
2486 [17:49:28] <PrimalHunter> yes, it would be
2487 [17:49:56] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Looks like that user's password was somehow retrieved. Should this user be allowed to send mail?
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2491 [17:51:24] <PrimalHunter> yes, I guess one of the other services had to be compromised than. At least I never changed the password after generting the user. That is concerning. *sigh* A lot of work is waiting. \o/
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2495 [17:53:53] <PrimalHunter> Thanks for all the help and see you all later. Havea nice day!
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2509 [17:59:35] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Maybe it got brute-forced?
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2561 [18:17:31] <antzero> How can I set custom DPI for different applications (and not system-wide) ?
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2572 [18:22:10] <FinalX> ugh, that moment where you're in mc moving files over and you accidentally cancel it when a 20 GB file is nearly done copying over.
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2581 [18:24:54] <han-solo> mc?
2582 [18:25:28] <FinalX> Midnight Commander :)
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2615 [18:36:51] <cruncher> FinalX, what is with that moment? i hope you know you can resume file copying
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2617 [18:37:07] <cruncher> of course only if oyu pressed "keep" the partially copied file
2618 [18:37:17] <cruncher> ;-)
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2622 [18:38:08] <Dean-b> Upgrading to unstable. Shitting it. Any nightmares I shoud be prepared for?
2623 [18:38:32] <markybob> Dean-b: we don't support unstable. read /topic
2624 [18:38:37] <cruncher> Dean-b, if its a fresh install there shouldnt be any problems
2625 [18:38:38] <zykotick9> Dean-b: s/Upgrading/Downgrading/ and i'd agree...
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2627 [18:38:58] <cruncher> just a little info, but as markybob says, not supported here
2628 [18:39:13] <markybob> !debian-next
2629 [18:39:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2630 [18:39:23] <Dean-b> Not asking for support. I'm pretty used to debian and linux in general. Just wondering if i've opened a can of worms :P .
2631 [18:39:56] <markybob> Dean-b: that's support. we don't know what's going on with sid because we don't use it. so you go to the proper channel and ask them
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2636 [18:41:18] <Dean-b> Awh balls not unstable. I'm upgrading to testing. Stretch not sid.
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2638 [18:41:30] <Dean-b> Not need to be so uppity in any case.
2639 [18:41:53] <markybob> Dean-b: did you not read? /topic or what the bot said? stretch support is also not here
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2649 [18:45:17] <Dean-b> nce again I do not require support. Asking you if you have ever tied your shoes is not the same as asking you to tie mine.
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2652 [18:46:19] <markybob> Dean-b: i've used testing before and it's been fine. i've used before and it's utterly broken everything. i cant tell you it's current state. they can.
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2657 [18:47:29] <zinx> it's very likely that you should not be running testing
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2659 [18:47:45] <zinx> if you want bleeding edge, go with sid. if you want something that won't break, go with stable
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2661 [18:47:57] <markybob> s/likely/obvious
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2675 [18:50:40] <teraflops> zinx: sid is not bleeding edge ...
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2679 [18:50:53] <zinx> teraflops: it's as bleeding as debian gets
2680 [18:51:02] <markybob> no it's not
2681 [18:51:16] <markybob> but please god teraflops don't mention what is. we don't need that :/
2682 [18:51:17] <zinx> markybob: you're thinking of something that's not debian.
2683 [18:51:20] <eladhen_> It makes you bleed
2684 [18:51:41] <teraflops> markybob: it's ok, just pointing a fact
2685 [18:51:59] <zinx> anyway, the other one is reserved for things that are known to be broken :P
2686 [18:52:22] <zinx> (maybe for a different arch, but w/e)
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2690 [18:53:54] * cruncher would have liked to hear what would be...
2691 [18:54:23] <Nitori> hm, something messed up my keyboard layout... "arrow up" is suddenly "print"... trying to go up in history makes my DE want to take a screenshot
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2693 [18:54:56] <Nitori> wondering if someone had a similar issue with debian testing
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2695 [18:55:13] <markybob> how many times in five minutes
2696 [18:55:26] <markybob> testing suppport is on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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2701 [18:56:53] <Nitori> thanks
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2717 [19:02:14] <FinalX> cruncher: yeah, if you can hit the Keep, sure, but I had latency issues on the train and hit enter twice in the wrong window, default is on Delete.. :P
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2719 [19:02:41] <FinalX> screen window, that is
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2735 [19:08:18] <radw> hello, I continue having issues mouting a nfs share from debian to a freenfs server
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2739 [19:09:02] <radw> as you can see, the server give me rcpinfo, but the authentication failed (even there isnt any in the server): replaced-url
2740 [19:10:00] <FinalX> says access denied by server, are you sure the client's ip that it's connecting from is allowed?
2741 [19:10:06] <mutante> "access denied" sounds like there is
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2743 [19:10:28] <FinalX> access denied does not necessarily come down to a user/pass problem
2744 [19:10:40] <mutante> /etc/hosts.allow ?
2745 [19:11:06] <FinalX> you say "there isn't any on the server", but by default the nfs server does demand you specify the allowed ranges in /etc/exports
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2747 [19:12:11] <radw> in this case, freenfs is v3 and does not require a user/password
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2749 [19:12:27] <FinalX> please read what I wrote
2750 [19:12:34] <FinalX> that's exactly what I just said
2751 [19:12:41] <riskc> I've got some trouble since I once filled my root partition to the brim... :-(
2752 [19:12:44] <radw> i can allow in /etc/hosts.allow, hoever I tried it also but didint work
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2754 [19:13:08] <FinalX> riskc: ouch :( freeing some space should usually get things going again pretty decently, though
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2756 [19:13:19] <FinalX> radw: read what i wrote, i even said where.
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2759 [19:13:58] <riskc> FinalX: no, got gigs free now but still got trouble. For example, I don't get sound for selected videos that worked before. Strange problem?
2760 [19:14:19] <FinalX> for example, mkdir nfs; echo '/nfs 192.168.153.226(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)' >> /etc/exports
2761 [19:14:28] <FinalX> and right there, there's the IP that's allowed to connect
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2763 [19:14:36] <FinalX> nothing to do with hosts.allow or usernames/passwords
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2765 [19:15:07] <FinalX> riskc: ugh, wouldn't know really; I mostly use it for servers.. tried restarting all services (or reboot, which does essentially the same)?
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2769 [19:16:48] <radw> FinalX: i just loaded rpcbind : NFS server IP to /etc/hosts.allow and give me the same error
2770 [19:17:24] <f-a> (alsa) I would like to capture what comes out of my soundcard to, say, record it to a test.ogg file. I played around with alsamixer and audacity with little luck. Any hint?
2771 [19:17:26] <FinalX> ..........
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2773 [19:18:07] <FinalX> the problem is _NOT_ on the Debian client machine, but on the FreeNFS-server not allowing the IP in the NFS-server itself through /etc/exports, _not_ in hosts.allow, like I just mentioned 2 times
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2782 [19:22:56] <radw> FinalX: but why in debian as nfs client not work, but for others nfs clients work (like vmware esxi)?
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2828 [19:35:13] <thiolliere> my cpu temperature goes from 40 to ~80 fan almost not work. then fan works fullpower and temperature decrease to 40. I want better control to my fan to activate them a little so it is never noisy. but pwmconfig tell me that there is pwm-capable sensors module installed. can I control my fans and how ?
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2833 [19:35:59] <thiolliere> *there is no pwm-capable modules instaled*
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2838 [19:37:39] <Akram> Hi guys
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2841 [19:38:13] <Akram> I am helping a friend whose server has been hacked: he had a very old version of Debian: 6.0
2842 [19:38:34] <Akram> I made 2 upgrades
2843 [19:38:45] <Akram> and now, I can't but: I am stuck on grub page
2844 [19:38:54] <Akram> s/but/boot
2845 [19:39:10] <markus_> maybe back up everything important and reinstall? who knows what was done with the server since it was hacked.
2846 [19:39:27] <markus_> may be persistent call back shells left or back doors?
2847 [19:39:40] <Akram> markus_: good advice, I want to restore the service for now, and take more time to do the reinstall
2848 [19:40:01] <Akram> I need help on getting grub2 work back
2849 [19:40:12] <Akram> I think that the partitions where ext2
2850 [19:40:25] <Akram> s/where/were
2851 [19:40:28] <markus_> sorry i am not very good at that but maybe you can just boot off usb and from there backup all files?
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2853 [19:40:35] <markus_> a live usb?
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2855 [19:40:43] <Akram> markus_: the server is in the cloud
2856 [19:41:01] <Akram> markus_: I was abled to boot Rescue System, and chroot, and update grub
2857 [19:41:18] <Akram> but with no success, boot returns to the grub shell
2858 [19:41:26] <Akram> and if I type: boot
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2860 [19:41:35] <antzero> Is there a decent way to use Google Drive on Debian or should I switch to dropbox?
2861 [19:41:37] <markus_> what cloud provider?
2862 [19:41:42] <Akram> I got: error: no loaded kernel
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2864 [19:42:00] <Akram> markus_: it is a Physical server, hosted in France
2865 [19:42:33] <markus_> Akram: sorry i think maybe i am not the right person. maybe somebody else here can help if i am quiet
2866 [19:42:43] <Akram> :D
2867 [19:42:46] <markus_> :P
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2870 [19:43:00] <Akram> let's wait for a while :D
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2872 [19:43:11] <Akram> Keep Calm And Relax :D
2873 [19:43:12] <telecity> Akram: ovh?
2874 [19:43:29] <Akram> telecity: yes, but that does not make any difference :D
2875 [19:43:48] <telecity> Akram: you mentioned it being a physical server, yet said it was in the cloud
2876 [19:43:51] <telecity> Akram: is it a vps?
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2879 [19:44:17] <teraflops> it's a dedicated server
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2882 [19:44:37] <Akram> telecity: dedicated :D but, really, it is not the issue :D
2883 [19:44:53] <telecity> Akram: what do you want to do, restore the boot loader?
2884 [19:45:16] <Akram> telecity: I tried already to restore it: chroot , grub-update
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2886 [19:45:32] <Akram> telecity: but it seems to not solve the issue: still not booting
2887 [19:45:54] <Akram> telecity: I followed these steps which seem ok to me: replaced-url
2888 [19:46:12] <telecity> Akram: if I were you i'd probably boot into rescue mode and then pigz up the important data and sftp.. or i'd make an image of the whole device instead
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2890 [19:46:32] <telecity> Akram: and then losetup it on the localhost to extract the data
2891 [19:46:45] <telecity> Akram: was this a partitioned system - /boot was dedicated?
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2895 [19:47:01] <Akram> telecity: it is partitioned indeed
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2897 [19:47:19] <telecity> Akram: KVM?
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2899 [19:47:23] <teraflops> ^
2900 [19:47:30] <Akram> telecity: it was debian 6, I upgraded to 7, and everything was ok
2901 [19:47:50] <Akram> and then upgraded to 8, and now, grub just give me the grub shell
2902 [19:48:00] <telecity> Akram: how are you identifying that
2903 [19:48:03] <telecity> Akram: via KVM?
2904 [19:48:09] <petn-randall> Akram: If it's a cloud instance, just get a fresh image and move the data over. No point in putting work into a system that's not trustworthy anymore.
2905 [19:48:16] <Akram> telecity: no, dedicated, physical, it is a dell, I have IDRAC (console)
2906 [19:48:33] <telecity> Akram: ok, so you got kvm.. guess it's not the kimsufi line :D
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2908 [19:49:10] <telecity> Akram: i'd grub-install over
2909 [19:49:21] <Akram> telecity: how do you do this ?
2910 [19:50:01] <telecity> Akram: run grub-install
2911 [19:50:05] <jelly> Akram: same as update-grub, except run grub-install /dev/sda or wherever
2912 [19:50:26] <Akram> jelly: telecity: I will give it a try right now
2913 [19:50:38] <telecity> inb4 fubar
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2916 [19:51:22] <telecity> the good thing is you got KVM
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2919 [19:51:47] <Akram> telecity: jelly: what should e the install device ? the one containing /boot or the one containing / ?
2920 [19:52:00] <telecity> rootfs and /boot on a diff device?
2921 [19:52:08] <Akram> telecity: yes
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2925 [19:52:25] <telecity> GPT?
2926 [19:52:31] <Akram> root is : / => /dev/sda2
2927 [19:52:40] <Akram> boot is : /boot => /dev/sda1
2928 [19:52:52] <telecity> that's the same device
2929 [19:53:06] <Akram> telecity: oh sorry
2930 [19:53:22] <telecity> what about the partition table - is it GPT or DOS (MBR)
2931 [19:53:25] <Akram> oh by the way, I restarted in rescue and watched the fs
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2933 [19:53:37] <telecity> you did what
2934 [19:53:40] <Akram> here it is /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
2935 [19:54:13] <telecity> parted /dev/sda
2936 [19:54:14] <telecity> u s
2937 [19:54:14] <telecity> p
2938 [19:54:30] <Akram> and when I was doint root (hd0.1) , grub was telling it was ext2
2939 [19:54:38] <Akram> now it is ext4 apparently
2940 [19:54:42] <markybob> Akram: you should install grub to /dev/sda not /sda1 or /dev/sda2
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2942 [19:55:01] <markybob> Akram: boot is generally ext2
2943 [19:55:04] <telecity> there has to be a valid boot sector
2944 [19:55:21] <Akram> grub-install /dev/sda
2945 [19:55:21] <Akram> Installing for i386-pc platform.
2946 [19:55:21] <Akram> Installation finished. No error reported.
2947 [19:55:25] <petn-randall> Akram: Are you booting via UEFI or via legacy BIOS?
2948 [19:55:53] <Akram> petn-randall: I think it is legacy, but how can I deternmine it? dmesg ?
2949 [19:55:57] <markybob> hell petn-randall already gave you the best advice.
2950 [19:55:58] <teraflops> petn-randall: well it seems to be MBR or at least grub thinks so :P
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2953 [19:56:44] <teraflops> Akram: you should know if _your_ server does EFI or MBR ...
2954 [19:57:14] <Akram> teraflops: just saying in introduction: I am helping a friend, who has the server for a long time
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2956 [19:57:46] <telecity> and #debian is helping you
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2958 [19:57:54] <teraflops> s/you/your friend
2959 [19:57:59] <Akram> teraflops: someone ordered it, and set it up 3 years ago, and now I have the baby
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2962 [19:58:12] <telecity> Akram: v important information :D
2963 [19:58:29] <Akram> telecity: :)
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2965 [19:58:56] <Akram> just like we say, the friends of my friends are my friends :D
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2968 [19:59:05] <telecity> i think you can determine this through 'dmidecode'
2969 [19:59:09] <telecity> whether EFI or BIOS
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2971 [19:59:16] <teraflops> or just reboot :P
2972 [20:00:04] <Akram> dmidecode | grep -i efi , returns nothing
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2975 [20:00:20] <Akram> IOS Information
2976 [20:00:20] <Akram> Vendor: Dell Inc.
2977 [20:00:20] <Akram> Version: 1.5.2
2978 [20:00:22] <Akram> Release Date: 10/18/2010
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2982 [20:00:30] <Akram> looks like legacy enough :D
2983 [20:00:32] <markybob> Akram: run as sudo and don't paste
2984 [20:00:46] <teraflops> Akram: just make sure the grub config has been updated
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2990 [20:01:57] <Akram> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 9479 May 23 19:26 /boot/grub/grub.cfg
2991 [20:02:14] <Akram> looks like, the update-grub updated it, but the install did not
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2993 [20:02:22] <Akram> is it expected ?
2994 [20:02:34] <telecity> just reboot
2995 [20:02:49] <telecity> you got rescue mode and console, you'd be ok
2996 [20:02:54] <Akram> telecity: ok, let's go for it
2997 [20:03:16] <Akram> telecity: nothing more ? since reboot takes time, don't want to take it :D
2998 [20:03:22] <telecity> you even have ovh technicians.. although the support is non-existant
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3001 [20:03:58] <telecity> Akram: yea just reboot
3002 [20:04:07] <daily> telecity: I know that all too well.
3003 [20:04:17] <daily> 2 weeks to get a problem resolved, that was THEIR fault.
3004 [20:04:19] <telecity> most likely the config is fluffed up anyway, but deal with that later
3005 [20:04:23] <telecity> daily: idd
3006 [20:04:26] <jelly> what good would a technician do that remote console and reboot button does not do
3007 [20:04:30] <Akram> ok, gone for reboot
3008 [20:04:32] <markybob> why do you stay? my vps supplier has great support
3009 [20:04:47] <telecity> markybob: ovh is cheap
3010 [20:05:01] <telecity> markybob: good network throughput, latency
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3013 [20:05:23] <telecity> markybob: and good hardware specs
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3016 [20:05:40] <telecity> markybob: even API
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3018 [20:05:43] <daily> They're coming out with US locations soon too.
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3020 [20:05:59] <teraflops> telecity: latency depends on the endpoint. I bet you get shitty latency from India
3021 [20:05:59] <daily> If you're looking for a lowend provider, check out #lowendbox. Community based around it.
3022 [20:06:02] <Akram> anyway thank you guys :) still don't know if it will be working :)
3023 [20:06:18] <telecity> teraflops: ofcourse it does, i'm talking about proper peering/transit with the major IXs
3024 [20:06:29] <Akram> telecity: so why the grub-install may have not been done by the apt-get dist-upgrade ?
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3026 [20:06:51] <Akram> youhou !!!!! thank you guys
3027 [20:06:55] <teraflops> :P
3028 [20:07:03] <telecity> it worked?
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3030 [20:07:24] <Akram> telecity: yes it worked, thanks
3031 [20:07:41] <telecity> Akram: you're welcome.. thank god we didn't have to look/debug your grub config
3032 [20:07:54] <telecity> Akram: and maybe grub overwrote the sploit you had at sector 0
3033 [20:07:57] <Akram> telecity: :D indeed, thank God :D
3034 [20:08:21] <Akram> telecity: I was quite confident about that, but I am still missing the grub-install
3035 [20:08:31] <Akram> telecity: I will look for an explaination
3036 [20:08:32] <telecity> Akram: how did the perp get access?
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3038 [20:08:44] <telecity> Akram: which exploit
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3040 [20:09:08] <Akram> oh, I don't know for sure now, but
3041 [20:09:43] <Akram> at the website root, there were an SQL script, belonging to root and on 777
3042 [20:09:55] <Akram> and, what we had know
3043 [20:10:00] <markybob> well that's stupid as fuck
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3045 [20:10:16] <Akram> sorry, what he got, it is a small book store,
3046 [20:10:18] <markybob> do what petn-randall told you to do right now
3047 [20:10:29] <Akram> he lost almost all orders since 2013
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3049 [20:10:48] <telecity> Akram: what's the point of bringing this server online atm?
3050 [20:10:52] <jelly> Akram: do those people not have backups?
3051 [20:10:57] <Akram> and the SQL script was containing data drop an recreated the DB with data of 2013
3052 [20:11:14] <Akram> jelly: I found the backup fortunately
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3054 [20:11:31] <Akram> and restored, and calmed him down
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3056 [20:11:35] <telecity> Akram: it's obviously compromised, apt-get install chkrootkit at least
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3058 [20:11:58] <Akram> and then, I said, let's get for an update at least, to take some time to breathe
3059 [20:12:08] <Akram> and in the middle :) I broke it
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3061 [20:12:23] <markybob> absolutely pointless
3062 [20:12:27] <Akram> so, let's keep it working back a little, and start another one
3063 [20:12:29] <jelly> as in "compromised" by disgrunted ex-admin whose access was never revoked?
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3065 [20:12:45] <telecity> just like shapeshift.io
3066 [20:12:48] <Akram> jelly: I got your point
3067 [20:13:15] <Akram> I will advise him
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3070 [20:14:01] <Akram> thank you guys again
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3072 [20:14:32] <Akram> have a nice day, I will go back to kids for a while now
3073 [20:14:34] <Akram> see you
3074 [20:14:34] <telecity> you should run find with -atime, -mtime, -ctime
3075 [20:14:47] <telecity> although you've already upgraded the system, so duh
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3082 [20:16:39] <telecity> say you're a hacker, you gain access.. can you change ALL timestamps of some file on an ext4 to make it pose as something that hasn't been touched/changed?
3083 [20:16:54] <martman> im having problems installing a powerpc build system and im not sure what docs to use. looks emdebian is dead and the other multilib stuff isnt going the greatest for me. i cant find any powerpc packages after editing my sources file and adding the arch ti dpkg
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3086 [20:17:31] <markybob> telecity: of course
3087 [20:17:38] <telecity> markybob: with what set of utils
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3091 [20:18:23] <markybob> telecity: this isn't #hacking but google will give you top results really easily
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3093 [20:18:51] <telecity> markybob: touch, i.e. only modifies 2 of the timestamps
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3098 [20:19:38] <markybob> again, this isn't #hacking. go to #debian-offtopic if you really want
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3101 [20:20:38] <telecity> markybob: ok. but this is #debian. how can i modify all the timestamps of a given file to match a certain predefined date?
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3103 [20:21:03] <telecity> :)
3104 [20:21:09] <markybob> telecity: when i already know that you started with "if you hacked"...c'mon
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3108 [20:21:33] <telecity> markybob: really makes no difference, c'mon
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3111 [20:21:52] <markybob> telecity: the difference is you're goging on /ignore
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3113 [20:22:04] <telecity> markybob: touche?
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3116 [20:22:46] <zinx> telecity: just restore from your backup
3117 [20:22:56] <telecity> zinx: hmm?
3118 [20:23:07] <martman> has anyone gotten multilib stuff to work without the dated/dead emdebian stuff?
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3130 [20:26:28] <telecity> markybob: google tells me you can't change the ctime
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3135 [20:27:27] <telecity> As a possible workaround you can set the system time to the ctime you want to impose, then touch the file and then restore the system time.
3136 [20:27:32] <telecity> oh my.
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3140 [20:28:12] <DammitJim> is there a way to use inotify with the creation of files only and not directories?
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3150 [20:31:33] <jelly> telecity: you can change anything with debugfs.
3151 [20:31:52] <jelly> (ie. you can do anything as root)
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3154 [20:32:16] <DammitJim> I can't handle root
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3156 [20:32:19] <DammitJim> it's too much responsibility
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3181 [20:43:20] <mulischaf> dff/filter add irc_smart * irc_smart_filter *
3182 [20:43:25] <mulischaf> ups
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3193 [20:49:25] <telecity> jelly: didn't know, thanks for the tip
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3196 [20:50:28] <telecity> jelly: so what if one of the servers I won gets infiltrated, files tampered with and replaced, timestamps reset.. what could I do?
3197 [20:50:33] <telecity> own*
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3228 [21:05:01] * PadawanLearner may the force be with you
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3243 [21:10:41] <Exagone313> Hi, I can't install netfilter/iptables-persistent, the installation fails, here is journalctl -xn content: replaced-url
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3257 [21:13:47] <jmcnaught> Exagone313: looks like you're not using a jessie kernel. the packages probably work without grsecurity
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3266 [21:16:47] <Exagone313> yes, OVH uses a custom kernel, I don't know why :s
3267 [21:17:24] <telecity> Exagone313: part of the suite that involves isntalling spyware :p
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3270 [21:17:50] <telecity> Exagone313: they install monitoring daemon afair
3271 [21:17:57] <teraflops> Exagone313: out of curiosity, wasn't OVH KVM?
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3273 [21:18:09] <Exagone313> it's a dedicated server
3274 [21:18:20] <Exagone313> I don't know what you're asking
3275 [21:18:30] <teraflops> well that's even worst :P
3276 [21:18:34] <telecity> im not sure you need a custom kernel for monitoring daemons
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3283 [21:19:40] <sbeex> hello guys
3284 [21:19:43] <WormFood> What package has the character map, or whatever it's called, to let me select the hard-to-remember-how-to-type semi-unusual unicode character that I want?
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3288 [21:20:19] <greycat> Depends on *how* unusual.
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3290 [21:20:37] <WormFood> I said "semi-unusual" :P
3291 [21:20:40] <greycat> Some can be typed with Multi_key but most can't.
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3293 [21:20:56] <WormFood> I thought everything could be typed if you know the code for it.
3294 [21:21:03] <sbeex> (I rent a server at ovh and they told me I was doing some attack on a specific IP ... (I absolutely don't but .. if they say it it is probably the case :D ) Is there a way to find what service on my debian send to what ip something ? thank you in advance for your advices)
3295 [21:21:04] <greycat> Your locale setting also affects what you can do with Multi_key.
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3297 [21:21:27] <WormFood> anyways, I'm trying to find the graphical program, that has a list of "all" the unicode characters.
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3299 [21:21:34] <mutante> sees WormFood build his own unicode-characters-semi
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3301 [21:21:48] <greycat> WormFood: I believe that's called "iceweasel". You go to a wikipedia page that has a list of the chars.
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3305 [21:22:14] <mutante> replaced-url
3306 [21:22:14] <WormFood> greycat, I'm well aware of that. That isn't what I'm looking for.
3307 [21:22:53] <WormFood> seriously guys. That is exactly what I didn't ask for.
3308 [21:22:57] <telecity> sbeex: lsof, netstat, ps, iptables with logging
3309 [21:22:59] <teraflops> WormFood: use a font inspector or whatever it's called. as in gnome font viewer
3310 [21:23:04] <greycat> Well, clearly nobody here knows what you are asking for.
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3312 [21:23:18] <WormFood> no teraflops. There is an applet for this.
3313 [21:23:22] <greycat> If you'd just say WHAT CHARACTER and LOCALE you want, we might be able to tell you how to type it.
3314 [21:23:27] <WormFood> I just don't know what package it's part of.
3315 [21:23:35] <teraflops> oh an applet ...
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3318 [21:23:58] <WormFood> it's probably something named *-apps
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3320 [21:24:09] <sbeex> telecity: ps doesn't give any info related to packets ...
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3322 [21:24:37] <telecity> sbeex: it gives info related to running processes
3323 [21:24:59] <sbeex> yes that I agree with but.. you mean I have to "mix all of them" ?
3324 [21:25:03] <telecity> sbeex: and something from that list.. is sending.. pkts
3325 [21:25:04] <blackbit> is Evgeni Golov or Antonio Terceiro here? or anybody else who works with lxc?
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3327 [21:25:24] <teraflops> if you use vte terminal you can use pangoview for doing the opposite as in identify what font family renders a given glyph
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3336 [21:26:39] <telecity> sbeex: no, just monitor active connections, sort per process.. then either tcpdump or use iptables logging
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3340 [21:27:22] <telecity> sbeex: if it's sending out "attacks", then it's an outgoing connection.. likely TCP or UDP, but can be ICMP or whatever other protocol..
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3342 [21:27:35] <WormFood> The package is "gucharmap", to answer my own question.
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3344 [21:27:50] <greycat> ,info gucharmap
3345 [21:27:51] <judd> Package gucharmap (gnome, optional) in jessie/amd64: Unicode character picker and font browser. Version: 1:3.14.1-1; Size: 649.0k; Installed: 4009k; Homepage: replaced-url
3346 [21:28:22] <telecity> sbeex: i'd first inspect for any suspicious processes
3347 [21:28:40] <telecity> sbeex: then try to identify from active connections
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3349 [21:28:50] <telecity> sbeex: then resort to packet logging / dumping
3350 [21:28:52] <sbeex> telecity: right yes I use docker so on the main it should be nothing special is there any "list of normal process" ?
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3352 [21:29:01] <telecity> docker
3353 [21:29:05] <telecity> omg
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3356 [21:29:28] <telecity> sbeex: can you just make a new container then
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3358 [21:29:35] <telecity> sbeex: and disregard the old one
3359 [21:29:37] <WormFood> ΩΩΩ :D
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3362 [21:29:59] <telecity> WormFood: looks like an omega in my irssi
3363 [21:29:59] <sbeex> telecity: the attack come from the docker host machine
3364 [21:30:10] <telecity> sbeex: oh ok
3365 [21:30:20] <telecity> sbeex: lots of containers, different users?
3366 [21:30:28] <telecity> sbeex: you're hosting docker, not using it yourself?
3367 [21:30:40] <sbeex> I host it and use it
3368 [21:30:52] <telecity> and anyone else?
3369 [21:30:54] <sbeex> 20 containers
3370 [21:30:56] <sbeex> noone
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3372 [21:31:14] <telecity> just tell ovh
3373 [21:31:16] <telecity> you fixed it
3374 [21:31:25] <sbeex> but I have to say I didnt really secured my server for now...
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3376 [21:31:35] <sbeex> so I will do it now xD
3377 [21:31:43] <sbeex> yes for now I did this
3378 [21:31:47] <sbeex> so they reenable my ip
3379 [21:31:49] <telecity> why do u need docker?
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3381 [21:32:00] <sbeex> but I have to find the mistake otherwise it will come again xD
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3384 [21:32:11] <telecity> next time you might get perm disabled
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3386 [21:32:14] <sbeex> because it's suit my needs
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3388 [21:32:22] <telecity> what do you do with it?
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3390 [21:32:48] <sbeex> ldap, jira, confluence, jenkins, 5 websites, and some other stuff
3391 [21:32:51] <sbeex> multiple db
3392 [21:32:58] <telecity> i see
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3394 [21:33:07] <telecity> could've deployed all that on the same server though
3395 [21:33:23] <sbeex> yes but well I create docker image for my website now ^^
3396 [21:33:30] <sbeex> so I wont change to go back
3397 [21:33:30] <telecity> good luck
3398 [21:33:31] <sbeex> :D
3399 [21:33:36] <sbeex> I already do it
3400 [21:33:54] <sbeex> well I have to deal with my server for now
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3402 [21:34:07] <telecity> i found docker to be very confusing
3403 [21:34:08] <sbeex> I will try to do some netstats as you said thx
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3407 [21:34:39] <telecity> sbeex: netstat only handles udp and tcp
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3409 [21:34:53] <telecity> and unix sockets
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3411 [21:35:21] <sbeex> telecity: docker is another philosophy some likes some not yep ;) But I really like the "you did something wrong ?" -> remove your container your os is still clean xD
3412 [21:36:12] <telecity> sbeex: right. exactly. really seemed like one big wrapper and over-simplification of something a poweruser usually does
3413 [21:36:28] <sbeex> 106.185.47.251:80 TCP SYN 40 ATTACK:TCP_SYN
3414 [21:36:50] <sbeex> so it is TCP
3415 [21:36:58] <telecity> where's this line from
3416 [21:37:09] <sbeex> the "log attack" from ovh
3417 [21:37:11] <telecity> i dont think ovh would report a tcp syn.. tcp syn is pretty meh
3418 [21:37:22] <telecity> oh
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3420 [21:37:22] <telecity> ok
3421 [21:37:25] <sbeex> I have 25 times this line xD
3422 [21:37:32] <telecity> 25 times where
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3424 [21:37:41] <sbeex> on the log trace
3425 [21:37:50] <telecity> the one they gave u?
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3430 [21:38:12] <sbeex> yep
3431 [21:38:26] <telecity> you're lucky they spoke to you
3432 [21:38:34] <telecity> usually they are like IDGAF just fix it
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3434 [21:39:02] <telecity> when you RFC they just "fix it or be perm disabled"
3435 [21:39:10] <telecity> ok well
3436 [21:39:19] <sypher> ovh is the worst garbage provider I've ever seen.
3437 [21:39:27] <sypher> but that's probably not helpful.
3438 [21:39:28] <telecity> in terms of support - yes
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3440 [21:39:37] <sbeex> support ? if you pay maybe...
3441 [21:39:38] <sypher> in terms of infrastructure, too.
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3443 [21:39:44] <sbeex> "your offer doesnt allow support"
3444 [21:39:46] <sbeex> :D
3445 [21:40:04] <teraflops> sbeex: :P
3446 [21:40:05] <telecity> sypher: dunno, my experience in terms of infrastruture has been pretty poisitive thus far
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3449 [21:40:21] <sbeex> but well.. where should I start my investigate ?
3450 [21:40:24] <sypher> telecity: Then you'd be the first I've ever spoken to.
3451 [21:40:46] <sbeex> configure the firewall with iptable could solve that right ? can I make a rule to say -> all going to -> ip (from the log) -> reject
3452 [21:40:49] <telecity> sbeex: look at iptables -j LOG --log-prefix="MYLOG: " .. OUTPUT chain
3453 [21:40:58] <sbeex> my iptables is empty for now :D
3454 [21:41:02] <sbeex> i didnt do anything
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3456 [21:41:21] <sbeex> Im ready an howto since 10 minutes
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3458 [21:41:33] <telecity> sbeex: you can log all pkts with SYN flags to port 80
3459 [21:41:41] <telecity> sbeex: but if you even do a system update it will be there
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3461 [21:41:58] <telecity> the TCP syn is probably bullshit
3462 [21:42:00] <telecity> anyway
3463 [21:42:13] <telecity> probably just a false positive somehow
3464 [21:42:57] <telecity> sypher: what are the most common issues with the infrastructure over at OVH?
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3469 [21:43:13] <sypher> telecity: probably off-topic at this point, honestly.
3470 [21:43:18] <sypher> telecity: #debian-offtopic
3471 [21:43:31] <telecity> sypher: alright
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3493 [21:51:05] <tethra> question - is it just me or have kolab's repos disappeared off the face of the earth? :/
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3501 [21:53:12] <awwal> any clue on how to make 'xmobar' always on top?
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3503 [21:55:26] <awwal> or prevent apps from cover it when in maximized/fullscreen mode? (openbox)
3504 [21:55:35] <teraflops> awwal: tell it the possition. It's done in ~./xmobarrc
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3506 [21:55:48] <teraflops> Oh
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3510 [21:57:35] <awwal> teraflops, was talking about layer stuff
3511 [21:57:59] <teraflops> Yeah I noticed later
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3513 [21:58:05] <awwal> :)
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3516 [21:58:56] <awwal> very limited knowledge about hasksell here :P
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3520 [22:00:25] <telecity> awwal: glad i never bothered to extend that knowledge either
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3523 [22:00:43] <telecity> awwal: along with prolog
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3530 [22:02:35] <awwal> telecity, teraflops, thats my config file. if you have time and interest you may where to look or what can be done for top layer replaced-url
3531 [22:02:56] <awwal> you may know/find ... ^
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3534 [22:04:17] <Neobenedict_> please help me with this replaced-url
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3536 [22:04:22] <Neobenedict_> before i lock myself out
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3540 [22:05:37] <teraflops> awwal: what's your setup? Just openbox + xmobar?
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3543 [22:06:40] <awwal> teraflops, i have xfce but i usually use openbox; I run xmobar when in openbox session yeah
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3546 [22:07:14] <teraflops> Then I guess is openbox related not xmobar related
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3551 [22:09:08] <teraflops> Heh I do xmonad but I don't do xmobar
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3557 [22:11:01] <MachinaeWolf> Ok if you ran a debootstrap of sid what do you do to chroot into it after?
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3559 [22:11:45] <greycat> chroot /path/to/your/sid
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3563 [22:14:42] <Neobenedict_> ffs
3564 [22:14:44] <Neobenedict_> can anyone help
3565 [22:14:55] <Neobenedict_> my sshd_config change (adding a user to allowed users) isn't working
3566 [22:15:02] <awwal> teraflops, I did a heavy search and it's complicated. seems that it's haskell language programing related and seems that xmobar just doesnt support top layer and autohide
3567 [22:15:02] <Neobenedict_> can't login as them, as if the change is ignored
3568 [22:15:06] <greycat> Did you restart ssh?
3569 [22:15:08] <Neobenedict_> yes
3570 [22:15:12] <Neobenedict_> sudo service restart sshd
3571 [22:15:20] <Neobenedict_> i also stopped it
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3573 [22:15:21] <Neobenedict_> and started
3574 [22:15:24] <Neobenedict_> i also reloaded
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3577 [22:15:34] <greycat> That is not the service name on Debian. It's ssh, not sshd.
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3580 [22:16:17] <Neobenedict_> did that but still can't login
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3582 [22:16:26] <teraflops> awwal: in xmonad you have to specify you're using xmobar in the xmonad.hs file so they work fine together
3583 [22:16:43] <Neobenedict_> ssh/sshd are the same on my system anyway
3584 [22:16:47] <Neobenedict_> for service
3585 [22:16:54] <greycat> What did you put for AllowUsers
3586 [22:16:57] <sbeex> telecity: what do you think about this line on my firewall file (iptable) iptables -A OUTPUT -s 106.185.47.251 -j DROP
3587 [22:17:07] <sbeex> will it disallow all trafic on this ip ?
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3589 [22:17:18] <LtL> Neobenedict_: is the user in /etc/passwd with a shell ?
3590 [22:17:27] <sbeex> *outgoing
3591 [22:17:28] <teraflops> awwal: No idea about openbox but it looks.like it doesn't know there is a bar there
3592 [22:17:36] <Neobenedict_> i can su user
3593 [22:17:39] <Neobenedict_> with a password
3594 [22:17:42] <Neobenedict_> so i assume so yes
3595 [22:17:42] <awwal> teraflops, I believe that xmobar integrates better with xmonad being created for it.
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3598 [22:18:04] <Neobenedict_> and AllowUsers a b c d user1 (not posting the actual users)
3599 [22:18:09] <Neobenedict_> maybe the number is an issue? idk
3600 [22:18:21] <awwal> teraflops, no clue about thats (openbox doesn't know its there)
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3603 [22:18:57] <LtL> Neobenedict_: tail -f /var/log/auth.log while attempting to login, look
3604 [22:19:00] <Neobenedict_> guys
3605 [22:19:04] <Neobenedict_> if I sudo service sshd stop
3606 [22:19:07] <Neobenedict_> should I be able to log in
3607 [22:19:13] <Neobenedict_> with a new shell
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3611 [22:19:31] <awwal> teraflops, btw, in haskell language -- is for comment, eh?
3612 [22:19:32] <greycat> I don't even think he's a Debian user.
3613 [22:19:34] <LtL> Neobenedict_: no
3614 [22:19:47] <teraflops> awwal: yep
3615 [22:19:54] <awwal> teraflops, ok
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3617 [22:20:09] <awwal> just wanted to be sure about it :P
3618 [22:20:10] <Neobenedict_> i think somehow i have two ssh processes running
3619 [22:20:12] <Neobenedict_> is there a way to check
3620 [22:20:29] <Neobenedict_> nothing about failed logins in auth.log
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3622 [22:21:08] <Neobenedict_> root 1912 0.0 0.0 55168 3084 ? Ss 22:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
3623 [22:21:08] <Neobenedict_> root 24776 0.0 0.0 55152 1164 ? Ss 2015 2:38 /usr/sbin/sshd
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3625 [22:21:26] <teraflops> Be careful The combo is.comming
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3627 [22:21:49] <Neobenedict_> kill the 24776 process?
3628 [22:22:10] <greycat> Now you're just typing random shit.
3629 [22:22:38] <Neobenedict_> are you trying to help or make unfunny comments greycat
3630 [22:22:47] <greycat> You've given no evidence that you're using Debian, or that you are connecting to the right server, or that you are using the correct username, or the correct syntax in the file, or ANYTHING.
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3632 [22:22:59] <Neobenedict_> the evidence i'm using debian is I joined #debian
3633 [22:23:13] <greycat> 16:23 Ignoring ALL from Neobenedict_
3634 [22:23:16] <Neobenedict_> good
3635 [22:23:19] <Neobenedict_> fuck off
3636 [22:23:23] <Neobenedict_> now, I have two sshd processes running according to this, one with -D
3637 [22:23:42] <mutante> well, now i'm not gonna help
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3640 [22:24:01] <Neobenedict_> greycat is trolling, just ignore him mutante
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3655 [22:31:42] <Neobenedict_> got it fixed no thanks to ##linux
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3657 [22:31:59] <Neobenedict_> -no
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3663 [22:34:55] <jak2000> hi all
3664 [22:34:58] <telecity> sbeex:
3665 [22:35:06] <telecity> yes it will, but use "-I" instead of "-A"
3666 [22:35:09] <jak2000> how to sync the clock?
3667 [22:35:15] <telecity> with ntp
3668 [22:35:34] <telecity> apt-get install ntpd
3669 [22:35:36] <telecity> ntpdate -v europe.pool.ntp.org
3670 [22:35:58] <telecity> sry, "apt-get install ntpdate"
3671 [22:36:14] <sbeex> telecity: cool thx !
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3673 [22:36:56] <telecity> sbeex: actually, no
3674 [22:37:01] <telecity> that line is erroneous
3675 [22:37:09] <sbeex> -l doesnt exists
3676 [22:37:17] <telecity> you have "-s"
3677 [22:37:19] <telecity> that's source
3678 [22:37:23] <telecity> it must be destination
3679 [22:37:25] <telecity> "-d"
3680 [22:37:38] <jak2000> replaced-url
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3682 [22:38:47] <sbeex> ok I changed but -l doesnt works
3683 [22:38:48] <telecity> jak2000: ftp.us.debian.org resolves just fine on my end
3684 [22:39:10] <sbeex> iptables -t filter -A OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j DROP
3685 [22:39:32] <telecity> jak2000: echo "64.50.236.52 ftp.us.debian.org" >> /etc/h
3686 [22:39:42] <telecity> jak2000: echo "64.50.236.52 ftp.us.debian.org" >> /etc/hosts
3687 [22:39:57] <telecity> sbeex: you don't need -t filter
3688 [22:40:13] <telecity> sbeex: iptables -I OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j DROP
3689 [22:40:28] <sbeex> -l doesnt exists telecity
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3691 [22:40:38] <telecity> wtf is -l
3692 [22:40:58] <telecity> -l is L, -I is
3693 [22:41:03] <telecity> well, -i
3694 [22:41:07] <sbeex> ahhhhhhhh
3695 [22:41:08] <sbeex> :D
3696 [22:41:19] <sbeex> sorry but on my irc client it is 100% the same charactere
3697 [22:41:41] <teraflops> Haha pick a better font
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3701 [22:42:01] <telecity> iptables -I OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j LOG --log-prefix="CURIOUS_LOG: "
3702 [22:42:11] <teraflops> l1I
3703 [22:42:20] <sbeex> :)
3704 [22:42:22] <telecity> sbeex: add that too, observe any logged pkts in 'dmesg'
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3706 [22:42:33] <greycat> Whoever came up with fonts that cannot visually distinguish l | I 1 needs to be disemboweled.
3707 [22:42:34] <sbeex> o great will try :)
3708 [22:42:57] <jhutchins> !ntp
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3710 [22:42:58] <dpkg> The Network Time Protocol (NTP) is used to synchronize the clocks of computer systems over a network. "aptitude install ntp" is enough to get going and synchronise your clock using the default ntp pool. replaced-url
3711 [22:43:11] <jmcnaught> jak2000: putting ftp.us.debian.org in /etc/hosts could very well cause future pain.. are you able to resolve any DNS at all?
3712 [22:43:13] <jhutchins> jak2000: See Above
3713 [22:43:36] <sbeex> telecity but I can DROP and LOG on the same line or do I have to do a new one ?
3714 [22:43:37] <FinalX> heh, ntp with the debian pool, I remember our department submitting a nasty thing with that :)
3715 [22:44:00] <telecity> sbeex: you need 2 rules
3716 [22:44:04] <FinalX> (was quickly resolved though)
3717 [22:44:04] <telecity> sbeex: aka 2 lines
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3719 [22:44:14] <telecity> sbeex: one for LOG, one for DROP
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3721 [22:44:23] <jhutchins> jak2000: Also, please use paste.debian.net - pastebin.com has issues.
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3725 [22:45:36] <telecity> sbeex: this 106.185.47.251.. do you even know who it belongs to?
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3727 [22:45:52] <sbeex> absolutely not...
3728 [22:46:23] <sbeex> I tryed on a browser but it is a nginx error page
3729 [22:46:31] <telecity> yea
3730 [22:46:39] <telecity> don't forget to nmap scan it
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3732 [22:46:41] <jak2000> jmcnaught :)
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3734 [22:46:43] <jak2000> thanks
3735 [22:46:53] <telecity> sbeex: (was a joke)
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3737 [22:47:39] <telecity> sbeex: i'll nmap scan it for you.. not sure what for though
3738 [22:48:03] <sbeex> telecity ok.. I have a joke that is not really one for me :D --> I configured iptables and now nothing works on my containers haha
3739 [22:48:20] <sbeex> I am going to spend a good night :D
3740 [22:48:27] <telecity> you what
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3742 [22:48:49] <telecity> ok do a "iptables -S"
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3744 [22:49:03] <telecity> got ufw too?
3745 [22:49:26] <sbeex> ufw ?
3746 [22:49:42] <telecity> "ufw status"
3747 [22:49:56] <telecity> anyway just "iptables -S" and use a pastie
3748 [22:50:21] <telecity> sbeex: i'm 99% sure we're doing something that's not even needed cause of false positive to that crappy host
3749 [22:50:26] <sbeex> replaced-url
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3751 [22:50:44] <sbeex> telecity it's possible :)
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3753 [22:51:09] <sbeex> but now my shipyard can't be reached on 8080 well it works only at the fresh reboot and then end..
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3756 [22:51:18] <telecity> sbeex: why do you have a DROP policy by default
3757 [22:51:24] <telecity> sbeex: most likely ufw is indeed enabled
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3759 [22:51:34] <sbeex> what is UFW ? :D
3760 [22:51:42] <telecity> sbeex: what does ufw status
3761 [22:51:43] <telecity> say?
3762 [22:51:48] <markybob> !ufw
3763 [22:51:48] <dpkg> Uncomplicated firewall (ufw) is an <iptables> front-end with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter (PF). replaced-url
3764 [22:51:53] <sbeex> command not found
3765 [22:51:55] <markybob> it's firewall for dummies
3766 [22:52:11] <sbeex> should I install it?
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3768 [22:52:17] <markybob> i wouldn't
3769 [22:52:36] <greycat> iptables is complicated enough without adding an emulation-of-OpenBSD layer on top of it
3770 [22:52:44] <telecity> sbeex: you have a DROP policy by default atm, anything that isn't whitelisted = will be blocked
3771 [22:52:46] <markybob> if you need firewall help you should ask the experts in #netfilter
3772 [22:53:01] <sbeex> telecity and it is good I think. So I have to allow everything I want
3773 [22:53:10] <telecity> sbeex: it's good if you know what you're doing
3774 [22:53:19] <telecity> sbeex: doesn't sound like you do so far :D
3775 [22:53:28] <sbeex> pfff :p
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3780 [22:54:00] <telecity> sbeex: so your docker bloat isn't working atm, right?
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3782 [22:54:31] <sbeex> shipyard ( a docker container gui) is working but not listing dockers containers
3783 [22:54:38] <sbeex> and other containers are not started
3784 [22:54:49] <sbeex> (I would need the shipyard gui to do so :D )
3785 [22:55:17] <telecity> sbeex: well just -P ACCEPT
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3787 [22:56:10] <sbeex> ok
3788 [22:56:15] <telecity> sbeex: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
3789 [22:56:16] <telecity> etc
3790 [22:56:33] <telecity> all 3 chains
3791 [22:56:35] <telecity> and it should work
3792 [22:56:37] <telecity> afterwards
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3794 [22:57:59] <mutante> if you accept everything why have a packet filter
3795 [22:58:09] <telecity> so you can block what you don't want to accept
3796 [22:58:18] <telecity> we're talking about the default policy
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3798 [22:58:27] <sbeex> well now it works again
3799 [22:58:39] <sbeex> so I can later uncomment and find the right ports to open ;)
3800 [22:58:40] <sbeex> thank you
3801 [22:58:55] <telecity> you're welcome
3802 [22:59:07] <sbeex> erf game of thrones is starting come back in one hour :) (yes in europe we have it only today xD)
3803 [22:59:14] <sbeex> thank you very much telecity !
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3805 [22:59:48] <FinalX> sbeex: eh, HBO airs it twice the primary air day here in .nl
3806 [23:00:01] <FinalX> then again, the first is at 03:00 at night :P
3807 [23:00:17] <telecity> is it really that good?
3808 [23:00:19] <telecity> the show
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3810 [23:00:26] <Aorious> Yes
3811 [23:00:26] <FinalX> it's getting better again
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3813 [23:01:05] <FinalX> I remember being in Brazil in april/may 2013 and remembering the season finale was utter shit compared to another show I was watching :)
3814 [23:01:09] <FinalX> (that also had its season finale)
3815 [23:01:18] <markybob> #debian-offtopic if you want to keep talking about GOT please
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3820 [23:01:56] <telecity> !uptight
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3822 [23:02:09] <Kiril> hello, guys
3823 [23:02:39] <Kiril> could you tell me how to list all available daemons runned ?
3824 [23:03:07] <greycat> systemctl -a, or ps auxw
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3826 [23:03:22] <Kiril> also how to disable some of them like ; alsa-utils , bluetooth and etc
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3829 [23:03:37] <greycat> alsa-utils is not a daemon
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3832 [23:03:52] <Aorious> Hi, I have a startup script in the autostart folder, to setup some xmodmap keybinds. How these be made persist through Gnome restarts (some times Gnome freezes so I need to restart it)?
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3836 [23:04:59] <telecity> Kiril: lsmod, modprobe, depmod.. research that
3837 [23:05:21] <greycat> That has nothing to do with daemons either.
3838 [23:05:46] <telecity> greycat: indeed, but prety sure he meant modules, right?
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3840 [23:06:10] <greycat> God only knows, since he gave two examples that had nothing in common with each other, or with daemons in general.
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3843 [23:06:27] <telecity> greycat: true.. although i still suspect modules due to alsa
3844 [23:06:44] <greycat> if the real question is "How to disable support for my hardware", rmmod isn't the answer either. Though I don't have a clue why he wants to disable support for his hardware.
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3848 [23:07:21] <telecity> greycat: most likely just wants to prevent some specific modules loading on startup
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3850 [23:07:40] <greycat> In which case the answer is module blacklisting.
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3852 [23:08:48] <telecity> Kiril: replaced-url
3853 [23:09:04] <greycat> (We're still guessing what the actual goal is.)
3854 [23:09:13] <markybob> i gave up
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3859 [23:12:09] <telecity> greycat: would service --status-all complement the answer in case he means the other? :)
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3861 [23:12:34] <greycat> I don't know this "service" shit you red hat people use. In Jessie it's systemctl -a
3862 [23:12:53] <telecity> the service shit works with SysV and systemd
3863 [23:13:29] <jordanm> and upstart fwiw
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3872 [23:17:19] <telecity> greycat: regarding alsa I was wrong though, alsa-utils is a service
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3876 [23:18:05] <greycat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jul 8 2014 /lib/systemd/system/alsa-utils.service -> /dev/null
3877 [23:18:08] <greycat> what the fuck.
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3879 [23:18:56] <polyzen> lol
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3884 [23:20:45] <telecity> the init.d script for alsa-utils has some data though :)
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3890 [23:23:14] <Kiril> as i said :)
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3892 [23:23:37] <telecity> Kiril everyone still wonders what the fuck you said tbh
3893 [23:24:23] <Kiril> root@Azeroth(~)# systemctl disable alsa-utils
3894 [23:24:23] <Kiril> Synchronizing state for alsa-utils.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d...
3895 [23:24:23] <Kiril> Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d alsa-utils defaults
3896 [23:24:28] <Kiril> that one
3897 [23:24:33] <telecity> sounded like some huinya
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3900 [23:25:25] <aubergine> why does the systemd implementation suck so hard? its a NP hard problem to restart a service now
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3902 [23:26:19] <markybob> aubergine: it's really easy to restart a daemon. seriously?
3903 [23:26:23] <telecity> does systemd still use sysvinit rc scripts as backend?
3904 [23:26:26] <telecity> or only sync
3905 [23:26:39] <telecity> the init itself changed so old init has no effect right?
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3909 [23:27:47] <markybob> aubergine: this is hard? sudo systemctl restart foo
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3911 [23:28:15] <aubergine> markybob: lets use samba and apache2 as example. it's always a jeopardy if you have to use systemctl, the init script or the serivce binary
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3914 [23:28:37] <aubergine> try sudo systemctl restart samba
3915 [23:28:59] <markybob> i dont use samba. i don't touch windows ever
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3919 [23:29:17] <markybob> no problem with apache
3920 [23:29:18] <telecity> considering that SMB is CIFS
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3922 [23:29:32] <aubergine> it would tell you that it doesn't restart
3923 [23:29:43] <telecity> aubergine: "service binary" - some ctl binary?
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3925 [23:30:03] <aubergine> service samba restart
3926 [23:30:24] <teraflops> aubergine: because samba is not the service ...
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3928 [23:30:44] <telecity> aubergine: wouldn't that do the same thing as systemctl, if systemd is the init?
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3930 [23:31:00] <aubergine> it should but it doesn't
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3934 [23:31:21] <teraflops> aubergine: smbd.service and nmdb.service btw
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3936 [23:31:39] <telecity> can you paste the output of both when triggered just for reference
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3938 [23:31:54] <telecity> teraflops: i still remember you helped me on the getty issue, thanks :p
3939 [23:31:55] <jhutchins> aubergine: MySQL was having trouble with restarts in systemd for a while.
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3941 [23:32:07] <aubergine> yes and this sucks because in init.d and service its still samba like the 20 years before.
3942 [23:32:07] <teraflops> telecity: oh np
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3944 [23:32:27] <jhutchins> aubergine: THe native systemd stuff works pretty well, it's the init compatibility stuff that seems to break.
3945 [23:32:37] <markybob> aubergine: but you know you can tab complete?
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3947 [23:32:53] <aubergine> when you run 20 services. you might have to use all 3 methods and maybe different names for a job that was easy before
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3949 [23:33:01] <aubergine> how you do that with your scripts?
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3951 [23:33:21] <teraflops> telecity: it was for me? the paste request?
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3953 [23:33:44] <telecity> teraflops: nah, for aubergine
3954 [23:33:49] <teraflops> ok ;)
3955 [23:34:22] <aubergine> telecity: i deinstalled systemd so I can't sorry
3956 [23:34:28] <VulcanRidr> I have an app (tvtime) that sound has quit working on. I checked the line input in aumix and it was at full volume. Suggestions on where else to look?
3957 [23:34:29] <telecity> aubergine: :D nice move
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3959 [23:34:44] <telecity> aubergine: back to sysv?
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3961 [23:34:51] <VulcanRidr> aubergine: How did you do it?
3962 [23:35:03] <VulcanRidr> (uninstall systemd, that is)
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3964 [23:35:17] <aubergine> replaced-url
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3966 [23:35:28] <telecity> nice domain
3967 [23:35:34] <aubergine> the tool is so good that it has a own deinstallation website
3968 [23:35:46] <telecity> ^ point
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3970 [23:35:54] <VulcanRidr> I have been playing with FreeBSD.
3971 [23:36:00] <telecity> upstart is worse though
3972 [23:36:02] <aubergine> we are debian users, we don't use debian to get fancy stuff
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3974 [23:36:32] <VulcanRidr> aubergine: Does this get rid of all the system creep stuff (networkd, su, etc)?
3975 [23:37:00] <telecity> aubergine: but hey i'd miss "hostnamectl"
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3977 [23:37:38] <markybob> what are you talking about? su is "creep stuff"? what is "creep stuff"?
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3980 [23:37:43] <aubergine> VulcanRidr: just let systemd-shim installed and you are fine
3981 [23:37:47] <telecity> and other.. bin.. ctls
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3985 [23:38:33] <aubergine> telecity: in the next release they will bring this binary syslog which comes with systemd
3986 [23:38:46] <aubergine> it is a nightmare
3987 [23:38:49] <VulcanRidr> aubergine: Cool.
3988 [23:39:27] <VulcanRidr> I have an app (tvtime) that sound has quit working on. I checked the line input in aumix and it was at full volume. Suggestions on where else to look?
3989 [23:39:55] <VulcanRidr> I have a sneaking suspicion that it is pottering-ware that is causing the problem
3990 [23:40:09] <jml2> VulcanRidr, you can start by saying what the name of the app is./
3991 [23:40:18] <jml2> VulcanRidr, tvtime is the name?
3992 [23:40:36] * jml2 does apt-cache show tvtime
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3996 [23:41:29] <VulcanRidr> jml2: I did...tvtime.
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3998 [23:41:43] <jml2> VulcanRidr, check to see if your user is in these groups, audio video plugdev
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4001 [23:42:39] <jml2> VulcanRidr, if anything is using pa, you can use "pacmd" and do "list-clients"
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4008 [23:44:47] <VulcanRidr> jml2: No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
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4010 [23:45:18] <VulcanRidr> I think by default, it installs pa for local sessions only.
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4014 [23:45:56] <teraflops> VulcanRidr: are you on tty? or no user logged in?
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4017 [23:46:45] <VulcanRidr> teraflops: She's in an X session.
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4020 [23:46:58] <telecity> she?
4021 [23:47:07] <jml2> i thought vulcans were heheshe
4022 [23:47:14] <VulcanRidr> telecity: This is on my wife's computer.
4023 [23:47:33] <jml2> VulcanRidr, maybe she watches too much tv
4024 [23:47:55] <jml2> VulcanRidr, time
4025 [23:47:58] <telecity> must be fate then
4026 [23:47:58] <jml2> VulcanRidr, tvtime i mean
4027 [23:48:17] <jml2> yeah she deserves it
4028 [23:48:18] <jml2> !
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4030 [23:48:49] <jml2> VulcanRidr, get your wife in here
4031 [23:48:49] <teraflops> VulcanRidr: what DE/WM is it?
4032 [23:49:00] <jml2> VulcanRidr, we need to talk to her on what she did to "tvtime"
4033 [23:49:06] <jml2> VulcanRidr, and we can get to the bottom of this
4034 [23:49:15] <VulcanRidr> teraflops: KDE4.
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4036 [23:49:34] <VulcanRidr> She didn't do anything to it. I admin the box.
4037 [23:49:52] <jml2> VulcanRidr, maybe it was the popcorn
4038 [23:49:57] <jml2> VulcanRidr, maybe..
4039 [23:50:06] <jml2> VulcanRidr, it is you because you lost the logic
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4041 [23:50:32] <jml2> VulcanRidr, check the logs vulkie
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4045 [23:52:02] <teraflops> VulcanRidr: I see a lot of issue about tv time not getting sound doing a random search
4046 [23:52:07] <teraflops> issues*
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4048 [23:52:55] <teraflops> also since there is no pulseaudio instance running an the fact that this app is old as hell I cannot imagine whow it can be related to poettering-ware :P
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4052 [23:53:33] <jml2> there's a sample sox command for doing a mapping workaround for problematic hardware
4053 [23:53:36] <jml2> (on their site)
4054 [23:53:40] <jml2> (faq)
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4056 [23:53:42] <teraflops> sorry my typing im on the phone
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