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1 [00:01:27] <user_> or am I asking in the wrong channel?
2 [00:02:04] <psylence> user_: What DE?
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5 [00:03:09] <user_> psylence: default..I think it's called GNOME?
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11 [00:04:47] <psylence> user_: gnome-tweak-tool
12 [00:04:59] <psylence> user_: if you don't have it install it with apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
13 [00:05:28] <user_> psylence: I don't think I have it, i'll use my newly learned command of apt-get install. Thanks!
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15 [00:06:09] <user_> psylence: actually after checking, I do have it
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32 [00:12:20] <simonlnu> there is no default DE in debian
33 [00:13:05] <markybob> kinda sorta. installer has gnome selected. you can deselect and pick something else.
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35 [00:14:12] <psylence> user_: then use it to set the mouse theme :)
36 [00:14:33] <user_> markybob: I actually press enter thinking it would flag my option
37 [00:14:39] <user_> but it went straight through to the next step
38 [00:14:49] <user_> I must've pressed the wrong button
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40 [00:14:55] <psylence> user_: space is for checking boxes
41 [00:14:58] <_0xbadc0de> guys
42 [00:15:03] <user_> psylence: I will check it out
43 [00:15:03] <_0xbadc0de> plz help
44 [00:15:05] <markybob> user_: that's what most new users do and they end with gnome. it happens.
45 [00:15:23] <_0xbadc0de> I just installed AMD_64 debian stable netinst
46 [00:15:30] <_0xbadc0de> and I dont have wireless working
47 [00:15:33] <_0xbadc0de> what should I do?
48 [00:15:42] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: is the wifi driver for your card non-free?
49 [00:15:42] <_0xbadc0de> In addition screen resolution looks bad and blurry
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51 [00:15:52] <_0xbadc0de> psylence absolutely
52 [00:16:04] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: you have to enable the nonfree repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list
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54 [00:16:11] <user_> psylence: I only one theme selectable lol
55 [00:16:13] <_0xbadc0de> how can I do that?
56 [00:16:17] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: the easiest way is to use the installer image that has firmware included
57 [00:16:42] <_0xbadc0de> wait but does this image already contains non free drivers?
58 [00:16:49] <_0xbadc0de> contain*
59 [00:16:52] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: opet /etc/apt/sources.list in your favourite editor and append 'nonfree' to the repo line (withou tthe '')
60 [00:17:08] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: right. replaced-url
61 [00:17:19] <_0xbadc0de> ok
62 [00:17:19] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: that installer has firmware
63 [00:17:45] <_0xbadc0de> once I enable those what should I do? sudo apt-get install update?
64 [00:17:55] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: do you already have Debian installed, or you're trying to use the installer right now?
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66 [00:18:02] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: once you've appended non-free you do apt-get update
67 [00:18:03] <_0xbadc0de> already installed
68 [00:18:08] <psylence> and then apt-get install your_firmware
69 [00:18:29] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: and you have ethernet on the machine? some internet?
70 [00:18:32] <_0xbadc0de> by "firmware" you mean driver right?
71 [00:18:33] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: can you run "lspci -nn | grep -i net" and then paste the line for your wifi, or at least the part that looks like [1234:abcd] ?
72 [00:18:35] <_0xbadc0de> ethernet
73 [00:18:36] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: it should look like stable main contrib non-free
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75 [00:18:49] <psylence> and done
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77 [00:19:20] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: <sidenote> "apt edit-sources" is a quick way to edit your sources.list in your default terminal editor
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81 [00:19:51] <_0xbadc0de> ok
82 [00:19:54] <_0xbadc0de> thanks everyone
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84 [00:19:58] <_0xbadc0de> you have been so kin
85 [00:19:59] <_0xbadc0de> kind
86 [00:20:04] <_0xbadc0de> I am going to try that in a sec
87 [00:20:13] <_0xbadc0de> (need to go where I have an ethernet cable)
88 [00:20:20] <_0xbadc0de> and I'll let you know the results
89 [00:20:46] <markybob> yeah, see, i'd just reinstall using the firmware iso then. there's a bit more to it then what we've told you
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92 [00:21:37] <psylence> markybob: I assumed he knows what driver he needs. :P
93 [00:21:47] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: do you know what driver you need?
94 [00:21:53] <markybob> i don't assume that when they don't know how to add non-free repo
95 [00:22:00] <psylence> lol true
96 [00:22:13] <_0xbadc0de> "<psylence> and then apt-get install your_firmware"
97 [00:22:36] <markybob> psylence: you made this mess. fix it :P
98 [00:22:46] <_0xbadc0de> how do I know the fw name from the lspci -nn |grep -i net cmd
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100 [00:23:10] <_0xbadc0de> theres something like [x:y] looks like a small hash
101 [00:23:23] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: tell us that part please
102 [00:23:28] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: what laptop do you have?
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104 [00:23:42] <_0xbadc0de> [14e4:4365]
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106 [00:23:50] <_0xbadc0de> Its the Broadcom Wireless card
107 [00:23:56] <jmcnaught> judd: pciid 14e4:4365
108 [00:23:57] <judd> [14e4:4365] is 'BCM43142 802.11b/g/n' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also replaced-url
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110 [00:24:16] <_0xbadc0de> is this bad?
111 [00:24:40] <_0xbadc0de> there is no kernel module for this?
112 [00:24:49] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: it might be wrong. you should check the instructions at replaced-url
113 [00:25:11] <markybob> you need to install broadcom-sta-dkms
114 [00:25:14] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: replaced-url
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118 [00:27:17] <_0xbadc0de> I thought a driver was all that was needed apparently one has a firmware
119 [00:27:20] <_0xbadc0de> fancy
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121 [00:27:47] <markybob> if by fancy you mean annoying as shit, yes
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123 [00:28:16] <_0xbadc0de> I thought these controllers all had a driver to process signals from the hw device
124 [00:28:24] <_0xbadc0de> at least thats what I have seen so far
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126 [00:28:56] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: That's what happens when manufacturers keep specs/hardware closed.
127 [00:29:29] <_0xbadc0de> thats corporate life 1-0-1
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131 [00:29:54] <_0xbadc0de> but here we are 0x1337 haxx0rs to keep that mindset *F*ck*d"
132 [00:30:12] <_0xbadc0de> ^was sarcasm not implying self 0x1337 haxx0r
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134 [00:31:59] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: free > non-free, simple as that :
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136 [00:32:02] <psylence> :)
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143 [00:34:30] <_0xbadc0de> ok
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145 [00:34:38] <_0xbadc0de> my sources.list file looks weird
146 [00:34:43] <_0xbadc0de> line #1
147 [00:34:59] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: pastebin it on paste.debian.net
148 [00:35:03] <_0xbadc0de> db replaced-url
149 [00:35:07] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: the whole thing. not just line 1
150 [00:35:14] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: deb. not db
151 [00:35:20] <_0xbadc0de> ok I cant copy paste for obvious reasons
152 [00:35:24] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: and you want contrib non-free after main
153 [00:35:29] <_0xbadc0de> so I'll just type it into pastebin?
154 [00:35:57] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: yeah, you just add contrib non-free after main
155 [00:36:00] <markybob> !tell _0xbadc0de about pastebinit
156 [00:36:09] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: connecting with an ethernet cable is probably worthwhile
157 [00:36:25] <_0xbadc0de> **I KNOW** jesus christ
158 [00:36:44] <_0xbadc0de> I am just trying to set up the sources.list file before I move my ass upstairs where I have ethernet
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161 [00:37:06] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: do your thing and take your time :)
162 [00:37:07] <_0xbadc0de> so that I can follow replaced-url
163 [00:37:33] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: maybe take a break first if you're freaking out? being connected to the internet will make all of the steps easier
164 [00:37:56] <_0xbadc0de> jmcnaught ... I still need to complete sources
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166 [00:38:02] <_0xbadc0de> internet wont make that for me
167 [00:38:24] <markybob> it's much easier if you're connected so you can pastebin it for us so you get your sources correct
168 [00:38:39] <_0xbadc0de> allright
169 [00:38:40] <_0xbadc0de> sec
170 [00:38:41] <markybob> so yes, internet will help
171 [00:38:55] <_0xbadc0de> see you on the other side
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185 [00:44:49] <psylence> I just noticed that he's on irc from a root account.
186 [00:44:50] <psylence> Cute
187 [00:45:30] <zykotick9> psylence: it's OK they are an 0x1337 haxx0r ;)
188 [00:45:36] <psylence> :)
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190 [00:45:38] <_0xbadc0de> ĺol
191 [00:45:40] <jmcnaught> __0xbadc0de: psylence raises a good point, you should use a regular account for IRC, never IRC
192 [00:45:44] <_0xbadc0de> cant msg though
193 [00:46:00] <_0xbadc0de> probably I should leave here
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195 [00:46:14] <psylence> Lol
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199 [00:46:59] <markybob> __0xbadc0de: but you're still here as root
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207 [00:48:54] * zykotick9 suddenly wonders... is this debian or kali?
208 [00:49:21] <markybob> the fucked up single source line he pasted was debian...i don't know
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210 [00:49:33] <_0xbadc0de> asd
211 [00:49:36] <_0xbadc0de> jesus christ
212 [00:49:39] <_0xbadc0de> at last
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214 [00:49:50] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: are you using kali?
215 [00:49:55] <_0xbadc0de> so what cmd should OI run?
216 [00:49:58] <_0xbadc0de> no, why=
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218 [00:49:59] <_0xbadc0de> ?
219 [00:50:20] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list and delete everything. make it look exactly like this: replaced-url
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222 [00:51:10] <_0xbadc0de> you dont want to see the sources first?
223 [00:51:15] <_0xbadc0de> meh prolly nvm
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225 [00:51:24] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: not really. new install. don't really care.
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231 [00:52:18] <_0xbadc0de> ok saved
232 [00:52:35] <_0xbadc0de> can you just repaste the link you had regarding the Broadcom fw install?
233 [00:52:37] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: apt-get update and then you'll have non-free. you can now follow the wiki
234 [00:52:46] <_0xbadc0de> please dont make me go downstairs again
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236 [00:53:16] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: this one replaced-url
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238 [00:53:30] <_0xbadc0de> absolutely
239 [00:54:01] <_0xbadc0de> when I do "sudo apt-get update" I get sudo command not found, this is absolutely a bad thing right?
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241 [00:54:15] <zykotick9> not if you are root...
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243 [00:54:22] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: how did you save sources.list? it needs root permissions
244 [00:54:23] <_0xbadc0de> I am not
245 [00:54:29] <_0xbadc0de> >_>
246 [00:54:39] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: so you didn't save sources.list
247 [00:54:39] <_0xbadc0de> I rooted
248 [00:54:46] <_0xbadc0de> and then un-rooted back to normal user
249 [00:54:50] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: okay. as root do apt-get update
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253 [00:55:40] <_0xbadc0de> done it seems
254 [00:55:55] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: sidenote, if you want "sudo" then "apt install sudo" and add yourself to the "sudo" group with "adduser YOURUSERNAME root" then logout/log-back-in and sudo should work.
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256 [00:56:05] <markybob> i'm interested in the output of that update _0xbadc0de
257 [00:56:10] <markybob> pastebin it
258 [00:56:31] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: sorry, that was for later... i don't mean to interupt markybob's help!
259 [00:56:46] <psylence> zykotick9: the first user he creates during installation should already have sudo permissions
260 [00:56:59] <markybob> zykotick9: i'm about to have dinner anyway and someone will have to take over ;)
261 [00:57:00] <zykotick9> psylence: not is sudo wasn't installed!
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263 [00:57:14] <zykotick9> s/is/if/
264 [00:57:38] <_0xbadc0de> replaced-url
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266 [00:58:09] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: most of us can't see pastebin.com. use paste.debian.net
267 [00:58:13] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: just a sidenote... but could you possibly use paste.debian.net...
268 [00:58:23] <_0xbadc0de> yes
269 [00:58:40] <psylence> _0xbadc0de: it looks like it updated correctly
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271 [00:58:48] <psylence> now you can proceed with the guide
272 [00:59:06] <_0xbadc0de> ok
273 [00:59:24] <markybob> _0xbadc0de: i'm off. good luck. i'm sure the others will guide you
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278 [01:00:05] <user_> using disk analyser, I can't see how much free space I have within home
279 [01:00:09] <user_> how do I look?
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281 [01:00:28] <_0xbadc0de> with the guide
282 [01:00:34] <_0xbadc0de> I cant find my wireless card
283 [01:00:46] <_0xbadc0de> aka Broadcom Corporation BCM43142
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285 [01:00:59] <_0xbadc0de> what should I do?
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288 [01:02:14] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: from earlier 18:25 < markybob> you need to install broadcom-sta-dkms
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290 [01:02:39] <_0xbadc0de> k
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292 [01:04:15] <zykotick9> user_: i have no idea what "disk analyser" is... (i suspect a gnome tool) but from terminal "df -h" will show disk free... is your home on a separate partition? is it mounted? or is it just part of / ?
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294 [01:05:12] <_0xbadc0de> its doing stuff
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297 [01:05:47] <_0xbadc0de> ok its done, should I reboot?
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299 [01:05:54] <_0xbadc0de> and test if wireless works?
300 [01:06:02] <user_> zykotick9: thanks, that's done the job!
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302 [01:07:24] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: sidenote, i don't personally know the correct command to restart the needed wireless driver/firmware... so if it doesn't work... you may have to reboot...
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312 [01:10:38] <_0xbadc0de> its worked!
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314 [01:10:51] <zykotick9> markybob: ftw
315 [01:10:54] <_0xbadc0de> THIS IS *AWESOME*
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317 [01:11:29] <_0xbadc0de> now I have another issue, my screen looks blurry as if no gfx card driver is installed
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319 [01:11:41] <_0xbadc0de> is this true or do I just need to adjust screen resolution?
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321 [01:12:38] <user_> any printer experts here?
322 [01:12:46] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: 1st, is this one of those dual-gpu laptops? if not/if so... could you paste "lspci -nn | grep -i vga"
323 [01:12:58] <zykotick9> user_: just ask the "real" question ;)
324 [01:13:07] <bazhang> #cups user_
325 [01:13:14] <user_> I just installed a new printer - printed a test page, it looks fine but I don't know why the bottom border didn't print
326 [01:13:22] <katebe> /join #offsec
327 [01:13:26] <user_> zykotick9: sir yes sir
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330 [01:14:35] <_0xbadc0de> pastebin.com/FmzaDQg7
331 [01:15:20] <_0xbadc0de> zykotick9
332 [01:15:24] <_0xbadc0de> I dont think so
333 [01:15:26] * zykotick9 reminds _0xbadc0de that he doesn't go to pastebin.com...
334 [01:15:32] <_0xbadc0de> ok....
335 [01:15:47] <_0xbadc0de> I think its a single AMD gpu
336 [01:15:59] <_0xbadc0de> probably with intel integrated graphics
337 [01:16:04] <_0xbadc0de> idk
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339 [01:16:42] <zykotick9> THAT answers my question. if it's amd/ati = i'm out. someone else has to help you. PLUS i know NOTHIN' about these dual ati/intel nvidia/intel stuff.... best of luck!
340 [01:17:36] <_0xbadc0de> are you serious?... at least can you tell me how can I know if I have a proper amd gpu driver already installed ?
341 [01:17:57] <zykotick9> sorry... good luck.
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344 [01:19:17] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: seems like you have a single AMD/ATI GPU. The details are here: replaced-url
345 [01:19:36] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: i'm sure other's in this channel know about this hardware stuff. i _would_ suggest you share your specific hardware model(s) for this ati/intel video... maybe you did in your pastebin?
346 [01:20:57] <Mazhive> can some one tell me wich ssl protocol to be using now adays for apache2 conf. Or atleast with wich ciphersuite to be set..
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348 [01:21:32] <zykotick9> jmcnaught: ahhh... just a comment, _if_ it is hybrid-graphics, my suggested lspci command _might_ not be showing one of them. and perhaps needs a -v added?!?!
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350 [01:21:53] <jmcnaught> Mazhive: replaced-url
351 [01:22:05] <markybob> i cant see his pastebin either
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354 [01:22:37] <Mazhive> thanx.. ;)
355 [01:22:58] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: if you want everyone to be able to see your pastes, best to use replaced-url
356 [01:23:59] <user_> zykotick9: any ideas?
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358 [01:24:49] <zykotick9> user_: for the missing line at the bottom of prints? not really, i actually seem to remember seeing that on my last test print... but could be mistaken. i ignored it? ymmv.
359 [01:25:21] <user_> zykotick9: thanks
360 [01:25:44] <zykotick9> user_: to be honest, i f'n hate printers, and printing issues... again ymmv ;) good luck.
361 [01:26:12] <user_> zykotick9: is there another channel I can ask maybe?
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363 [01:26:17] <jmcnaught> user_: make sure the page size is set correctly, for example letter or A4
364 [01:26:40] <zykotick9> user_: i thinks #cups was suggested? by bazhang
365 [01:26:57] <user_> jmcnaught: yep already set to A4
366 [01:27:12] <_0xbadc0de> you guys are good support
367 [01:27:18] <_0xbadc0de> kudos
368 [01:27:28] <_0xbadc0de> not like the retards at #fedora
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370 [01:28:44] <user_> how do I get alt f4 not to group by program
371 [01:28:51] <markybob> Mazhive: this is what my default virtualhost looks like in apache. it's an a+ on ssllabs. might help as reference. replaced-url
372 [01:28:51] <user_> alt f4? I mean alt tab
373 [01:29:14] <user_> or is it more efficient to do so and I haven't learned the keyboard nav keys properly?
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377 [01:30:11] <jmcnaught> user_: that's just how gnome does it. the key above <TAB> (which is ` or ~ on en-us) is for switching between windows of an application
378 [01:30:44] <user_> jmcnaught: awesome, good to know
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380 [01:30:59] <user_> this is great support
381 [01:31:20] <zykotick9> user_: ^ just an fyi, but i had NO idea what you where talking about... alt+f4? i don't use gnome...
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384 [01:31:35] <jmcnaught> user_: or i think there's an alternatetab gnome-shell extension that changes this behaviour. you can check in tweak tool (also known as advanced settings)
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386 [01:32:12] <_0xbadc0de> guys
387 [01:32:15] <_0xbadc0de> help!! (again)
388 [01:32:19] <_0xbadc0de> I have followed replaced-url
389 [01:32:24] <user_> jmcnaught: thanks
390 [01:32:29] <_0xbadc0de> and after reboot the screen still looks blurry
391 [01:32:33] <_0xbadc0de> and when I do
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393 [01:32:44] <_0xbadc0de> dmesg | grep -E 'drm|radeon' | grep -iE 'firmware|microcode'
394 [01:32:47] <_0xbadc0de> I get nothing
395 [01:32:54] <_0xbadc0de> what is going onnnnnnnnn?
396 [01:32:56] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: ahhh, there are more then just "guys" in this channel (and MANY) other irc channels.. i'd suggest you stop using that term. ymmv.
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399 [01:33:24] <_0xbadc0de> err...wut?
400 [01:33:38] <zykotick9> _0xbadc0de: also, there is no need to ask for "help" just ask your real question, all on one line.
401 [01:33:47] <user_> zykotick9: lmao
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403 [01:33:53] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: might be as simple as using the auto-adjust button on your monitor. also zykotick9 is saying that guys is a term that excludes women
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405 [01:34:07] <Mazhive> i have received cert files there seems to be a cabundle.crt is this maybe a chain file ?
406 [01:34:13] <user_> jmcnaught: thanks for translating the message
407 [01:34:15] <_0xbadc0de> errr no it doesn't
408 [01:34:20] <_0xbadc0de> not In my mother language
409 [01:34:39] * petn-randall shrugs.
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411 [01:34:50] <dTal> I've heard girls use the term to refer to all female friend groups
412 [01:35:04] <petn-randall> _0xbadc0de: I think that's why zykotick9 said YMMV.
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415 [01:35:18] <_0xbadc0de> listen, is this relevant
416 [01:35:22] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: some people use guys as gender neutral in English, others don't. anyways it's off-topic. Which desktop environment are you using?
417 [01:35:23] <dTal> but maybe they're just oppressed by the kyriarchy, I dunno...
418 [01:35:23] <_0xbadc0de> at all?
419 [01:35:33] <petn-randall> dTal: AFAIR it's only really that way in Texas(?)
420 [01:35:35] <_0xbadc0de> gnmone
421 [01:35:38] <_0xbadc0de> gnome*
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426 [01:36:33] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: if you look at the "displays" section in gnome settings, does your display say it's set to the correct resolution? Putting your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on replaced-url
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429 [01:36:56] <_0xbadc0de> I'll just install kde for now
430 [01:37:05] <_0xbadc0de> I seriously hate gnome with all my heart
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432 [01:37:27] <dTal> what about MATE?
433 [01:38:24] <_0xbadc0de> yeah I guess we'v just tripped upon some opressed pussy
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435 [01:38:34] <_0xbadc0de> no need to talk any longer about it
436 [01:38:37] <markybob> now you're going on /ignore
437 [01:38:49] <_0xbadc0de> sry
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439 [01:38:53] <zykotick9> markybob: +1
440 [01:39:23] <petn-randall> I'd kick at this point.
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442 [01:39:38] <user_> any basic security setups I have to put in place?
443 [01:39:42] <user_> It's my first time trying linux
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445 [01:40:00] <petn-randall> user_: For what exactly?
446 [01:40:23] <user_> petn-randall: just post-install for debian
447 [01:40:26] <zykotick9> user_: welcome. well.. if you're coming from MS/Apple world - i'd guess your security already went up about 90% ;)
448 [01:41:04] <user_> zykotick9: ok I lied, i'd actually tried linux before but gave up multiple times and too much distro hopping
449 [01:41:06] <petn-randall> user_: If you feel like it, you can install a firewall. But I'm guessing that you don't have any network services installed, anyway.
450 [01:41:19] <markybob> user_: you really don't have to worry about much on a regular desktop install. it gets tricky with server stuff sometimes...but you're generally just fine as it is
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452 [01:41:53] <user_> petn-randall: by network services what do you mean? are you referring to what markybob said about server stuff
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454 [01:42:46] <petn-randall> user_: It's related. Network services like a samba daemon (doing windows shares), apache web server, etc.
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456 [01:43:02] * user_ too dumb to understand
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460 [01:43:23] <markybob> user_: if you're a normal user, really, don't worry about it. debian took care of it
461 [01:43:33] <petn-randall> user_: replaced-url
462 [01:43:34] <user_> markybob: affirmative.
463 [01:43:47] <zykotick9> markybob: nicely put.
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467 [01:44:57] <user_> as a side note, I'm having a lotta fun with irssi
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469 [01:45:10] <markybob> user_: gotten into scripts yet?
470 [01:45:10] <user_> i reformatted join/quit messages
471 [01:45:20] <jmcnaught> user_: a bunch of useful scripts in the irssi-scripts package
472 [01:45:26] <user_> markybob: i only just installed debian yesterday!
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474 [01:45:47] <markybob> user_: seriously get the package jmcnaught just mentioned. there's some great stuff
475 [01:45:50] <user_> now there are lot of people leaving but my msgs actually say 'user has pooped their pants'
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477 [01:46:18] <user_> and 'user has come forth!'
478 [01:46:32] <user_> jmcnaught: markybob what scripts?
479 [01:46:40] <user_> I'm not sure if I need them
480 [01:46:46] <zykotick9> jmcnaught: markybob oh my... i don't have it installed either... /me has used irssi for years, but hasn't gotten into script...
481 [01:46:46] <markybob> user_: replaced-url
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483 [01:47:10] <markybob> zykotick9: you *need* adv_windowlist.pl
484 [01:47:17] <user_> awesome! there's an 8-ball script!
485 [01:47:29] <BlenderPro> can anyone tell me if lili creator is a good choise to install my iso image onto a 4gb pen drive for debian 8.4
486 [01:47:31] <zykotick9> markybob: hehe. thanks. i'll find out what this is later...
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488 [01:47:57] <jmcnaught> BlenderPro: it probably isn't. Are you preparing the stick on a Linux or Windows computer?
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490 [01:48:02] <user_> adv_windowlist.pl was made my Nei, a guy who helped me out today!
491 [01:48:12] <user_> sorry.. not 'guy'
492 [01:48:18] <user_> a helpful citizen
493 [01:48:21] <BlenderPro> jmcnaught, on windows 7
494 [01:48:32] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell BlenderPro about win32diskimager
495 [01:48:50] <jmcnaught> BlenderPro: use the tool that dpkg just messaged you about
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498 [01:49:24] <jmcnaught> BlenderPro: and it's a really good idea to take a look at the install manual as well :)
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500 [01:50:02] <user_> this is a cool place to hang out
501 [01:50:30] <markybob> user_: keep in mind if you ever just wanna chat, not support stuff, there's #debian-offtopic
502 [01:50:58] <user_> ah markybob forgot about that
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505 [01:51:43] <BlenderPro> jmcnaught, that's true thanks!
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508 [01:52:28] <jmcnaught> zykotick9: user_: to use the scripts from the irssi-scripts package, what i recommend is to make symlinks for the individual scripts you want to use in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ (the package puts them in /usr/share/irssi/scripts/)
509 [01:52:31] <dTal> lolz at the "if"
510 [01:52:38] <zykotick9> jmcnaught: markybob i'm a freakin' lier. i've had nickcolor.pl in my ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun for years... but that's the only one. i'll find more good stuff!
511 [01:52:46] <zykotick9> jmcnaught: ^ ;)
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516 [01:54:22] <bitchin_camaro> windows 7 and up has isoburn.exe, works perfect from a dos prompt
517 [01:54:30] <jmcnaught> zykotick9: well if you use symlinks like i suggest, when you upgrade the scripts will get upgraded too :)
518 [01:54:38] <markybob> zykotick9: i don't know how you've lived without adv_windowlist.pl :P that's like using irssi with an arm chopped off.
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524 [01:55:22] <echosystm> is there any way to make an init script that is guaranteed to run before anything else?
525 [01:55:24] <zykotick9> markybob: oh i'll check it out! i now have a irssi-script-suggestions.txt file in ~ ;)
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527 [01:56:24] <echosystm> actually nevermind!
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533 [01:58:07] <user_> thank you for helping me so much
534 [01:58:20] <user_> i've learned more about linux and hope to learn more in future
535 [01:58:26] <user_> goodnight (or have a nice day)
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542 [02:01:16] <marisn> ideas why openssh-client 1:7.2p2-5 fails to connect with "invalid elliptic curve value" but 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u1 works just fine?
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553 [02:04:47] <zykotick9> marisn: i do NOT know the specifics of your issue... but i know i've seen notices about things being dropped from openssh... good luck. /me "knows" nothin' further...
554 [02:04:56] <_0xbadc0de> guys
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556 [02:05:11] <_0xbadc0de> my "Display configuration" only shows default
557 [02:05:16] <_0xbadc0de> whats wrong?
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560 [02:05:51] <Mazhive> cabundle.crt it presumes a signing request but it has mare then one key in the file ??
561 [02:06:01] <Mazhive> mar-more
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567 [02:08:08] <markybob> marisn: wait so you're using stretch?
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575 [02:09:23] <marisn> markybob: yes
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578 [02:09:45] <markybob> marisn: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/sid support per /topic
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580 [02:10:10] <markybob> marisn: we don't know what those crazy people do or how their packages are broken
581 [02:10:28] <zykotick9> lol <- really!
582 [02:10:29] <SVR4> I found that if you're involved with Debian heavily, being on OFTC is a good idea.
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584 [02:10:39] <marisn> markybob: thanks! I have problems with following all those Debian names (Gentoo user)
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586 [02:11:32] <zykotick9> !greenhouse
587 [02:11:32] <dpkg> Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. See also <diminishing returns on bogomips>. Hug a tree, use Debian!
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590 [02:12:17] <marisn> zykotick9: lack of system-d is enough to keep me on Gentoo ;)
591 [02:12:31] <SVR4> dpkg tell marisn about diminishing returns on bogomips
592 [02:12:34] <zykotick9> marisn: i _was_ a gentoo use for a long time (with 450mhz system, where gnome would take a week to compile) so i feel it's ok to laugh at gentoo now ;)
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600 [02:14:50] <SVR4> Gentoo gives me 2% faster startup for resource heavy applications such as Firefox or Chromium
601 [02:15:09] <markybob> so you have to blink once. yay
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606 [02:15:54] <SVR4> I was being sarcastic
607 [02:15:59] <Mazhive> Invalid command 'SSLStaplingCache', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
608 [02:16:00] <Mazhive> Action 'configtest' failed.
609 [02:16:03] <Mazhive> why ??
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614 [02:17:35] <markybob> Mazhive: no that's spelled correctly. note the paste i gave you. it's actually outside the <VirtualHost *:443>
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618 [02:18:33] <markybob> Mazhive: then "SSLUseStapling on" is insidee
619 [02:18:35] <markybob> inside*
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621 [02:18:41] <Mazhive> yes but stapling on is half way
622 [02:19:24] <markybob> Mazhive: plus this is probably best asked in #httpd which is the apache support channel
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624 [02:19:53] <Mazhive> ah oke.. will visit them ...thanx. :)
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634 [02:23:16] <BrutusUnix> How do I get snd_hda_intel module to load on boot? I have it in: /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf but with a new boot lsmod doesn't show it
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639 [02:25:43] <zykotick9> BrutusUnix: ahhh, i start with a very minimalist install... and i still have that autoloaded from a netinst... <- no suggestions on your issue, just a comment...
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642 [02:26:45] <BrutusUnix> mmm
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647 [02:29:47] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: any clues from "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" after you boot? Was that module part of your stock install, or did you add it somehow?
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656 [02:33:12] <BrutusUnix> I want to add it
657 [02:33:16] <BrutusUnix> for sound
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659 [02:33:31] <jim> hi... looking to help someone with this video: [1002:9874], could it be the driver name is amdgpu?
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663 [02:34:10] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: what I mean is, did you install something special to get that module? I'm looking for more info on what you've tried so far
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666 [02:35:30] <BrutusUnix> ok so - $ cat /proc/asound/cards | wc -l
667 [02:35:39] <BrutusUnix> gives 2 (one card)
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670 [02:36:28] <BrutusUnix> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
671 [02:36:35] <BrutusUnix> then count command
672 [02:36:50] <BrutusUnix> I get 3 cards not just one
673 [02:37:01] <BrutusUnix> HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
674 [02:37:07] <BrutusUnix> and an HDMI card
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676 [02:37:14] <BrutusUnix> I want them preloaded on boot
677 [02:37:23] <markybob> jim: yeah looks like it. what kernel version are you using?
678 [02:37:31] <BrutusUnix> trying to get pulseaudio to work
679 [02:37:40] <BrutusUnix> (Final resoultion)
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681 [02:37:44] <jmcnaught> jim: i'm not sure. that card could be too new for jessie. "man radeon" lists the cards supported by radeon. i'm not sure if amdgpu is available in jessie
682 [02:38:09] <markybob> jim: from what i see you need at least 4.2. jessie-backports has 4.5
683 [02:38:12] <jim> ok
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685 [02:38:26] <BrutusUnix> (also will need to add USB connector also
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687 [02:38:50] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: the card you're trying to get working, is it a PCI or USB device?
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689 [02:39:41] <BrutusUnix> I PCI is for just laptop but looking to have USB (IF head set is pluged in)
690 [02:40:36] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: could you please make a paste of the output for "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" and put it on replaced-url
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692 [02:40:59] <JohnnyL> what would cause 'print0' | xargs -0 to stop processing spaces and other strange characters? I had this script working fine an hour ago.
693 [02:41:20] <BrutusUnix> one second... yes I have pavucontrol installed
694 [02:41:22] <jim> jmcnaught, looks like he has 3.16 and jessie
695 [02:41:39] <markybob> jim: to backports you/he go
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697 [02:42:35] <BrutusUnix> jmcnaught -> replaced-url
698 [02:42:59] <BrutusUnix> jessie is installed
699 [02:43:20] <jmcnaught> jim: this friend you're helping was in here earlier and ended up offending the people trying to help him :/ Anyways a backports kernel might help him. As far as I can tell xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu is only available in stretch and sid though
700 [02:43:53] <JohnnyL> what is wrong with this script? replaced-url
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702 [02:44:05] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: thanks!
703 [02:44:15] <jmcnaught> judd: pciid 8086:8c20
704 [02:44:16] <judd> [8086:8c20] is '8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
705 [02:44:58] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: so according to the judd bot this *should* be supported on jessie. I'm assuming that the other one is the HDMI output of the GPU
706 [02:44:59] <SpaceAce> is there a good utility for managing ssh tunnels?
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708 [02:45:16] <BrutusUnix> ssh with -L
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710 [02:45:39] <BrutusUnix> jmcnaught -> replaced-url
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712 [02:45:56] <jim> jmcnaught, which friend?
713 [02:46:20] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: does "aplay -l" list the card? what about "pacmd list-cards"?
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716 [02:47:30] <jmcnaught> jim: _0xbadc0de (i'm on ##linux too) but it's decent of you to go the extra mile trying to help them :)
717 [02:47:32] <BrutusUnix> jmanaught..... Everything does work fine but I need to run sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel (first I want it ran on boot)
718 [02:47:48] <markybob> ,checkbackport xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
719 [02:47:49] <judd> Backporting package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports.
720 [02:47:51] <BrutusUnix> only problem solving I have is figure out how to add my usb head set
721 [02:47:59] <markybob> might work
722 [02:48:12] <_0xbadc0de> jmcnaught, cool
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724 [02:49:01] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: oh. does pavucontrol show the USB headset?
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728 [02:50:23] <jim> so he should backport the driver
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730 [02:50:30] <BrutusUnix> no it's not here
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733 [02:50:51] <markybob> i'd do jessie-backport kernel. if that doesn't do the trick, sure, try.
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735 [02:51:19] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: any clues in dmesg output right after plugging it in? As for the loading modules at boot issue, were there any clues in "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" ?
736 [02:51:25] <markybob> using ssb for the driver (if that wasn't clear)
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738 [02:52:25] <BrutusUnix> jmcnaught.... found problem in message log: snd-usb-audio: probe of 1-1:1.0 failed with error -5
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743 [02:54:01] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: has this USB headset worked before? Are you plugging directly into computer, or into a hub? Tried a different port?
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745 [02:54:17] <BrutusUnix> full message output: replaced-url
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749 [02:54:43] <BrutusUnix> I have two of them both say the samething
750 [02:54:52] <BrutusUnix> for error
751 [02:55:07] <BrutusUnix> off to google for a min
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754 [02:55:34] <_0xbadc0de> I have it working you fucking noobs
755 [02:55:50] <_0xbadc0de> seriously what a fucking bunch of "support team" you are
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758 [02:56:30] <markybob> pretty sure i solved all your problems
759 [02:56:43] <_0xbadc0de> I am pretty sure you can go fuck yourself
760 [02:56:43] <markybob> but you can be a dick elsewhere
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762 [02:57:24] <jmcnaught> _0xbadc0de: pretty sure everyone here was happy to help until you got offensive. anyways i guess you won't be needing our help anymore.
763 [02:57:25] <BrutusUnix> jmcnaught.... I thinnk some card id's are big mapped as the same id Going to try changing the id's
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770 [02:59:58] <mdlpe> hi best way to crypt a tar archive multiplateform linux/osX/win. tar+7z ?
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772 [03:00:08] <_0xbadc0de> I am just amased... why the fuck nobody thought it would be a good idea to use AMD's support site and download the approppriate driver
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775 [03:00:35] <jmcnaught> !next
776 [03:00:36] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
777 [03:01:04] <jmcnaught> i guess they'll figure out why not the hard way after their next kernel upgraed
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780 [03:02:04] <jmcnaught> mdlpe: you can encrypt with gnupg which is available on all major platforms
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782 [03:02:21] <Javabean> i hate upgrading the kernel. every time i upgrade the kernel, i have to dust out the computer's tower
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790 [03:04:13] <mdlpe> jmcnaught, but with gnupg I need the keys and internet for all my computers ?
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795 [03:04:48] <markybob> jmcnaught: yeah i won't be helping when that happens
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807 [03:09:22] <jmcnaught> mdlpe: gnupg can also do symmetric encryption (for example with a passphrase) replaced-url
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817 [03:15:38] <mdlpe> jmcnaught, thanks I'll try it tomorow and check to find a gnupg for windows and mac. My internet go down to often now
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823 [03:16:57] <BrutusUnix> jmcnaught --- yea changing card id's worked.... simple problem
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838 [03:22:43] <wsky> what if memtest86+ hangs @ 21%?
839 [03:22:52] <wsky> but hte '+' still blinks
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851 [03:28:18] <dvs> wsky, I think blinking could be a text attribute
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853 [03:28:44] <wsky> so the program might be indeed frozen?
854 [03:28:55] <dvs> could be
855 [03:28:59] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: nice!
856 [03:29:12] <wsky> dvs: could it be because bad memory?
857 [03:29:36] <dvs> cant be sure
858 [03:29:42] <markybob> wsky: how much ram do you have?
859 [03:29:54] <wsky> 8G
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861 [03:29:56] <markybob> wsky: how long have you waited?
862 [03:30:02] <wsky> few minutes
863 [03:30:07] <markybob> wsky: wait a lot longer
864 [03:30:15] <wsky> ok, i'll leave it over a night
865 [03:30:30] <wsky> i'm struggling with a hibernation issue here
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867 [03:30:47] <wsky> if the ram is filled the hibernation does not accour
868 [03:31:06] <BrutusUnix> also made a custom /etc/init.d/script for loading audio files
869 [03:31:06] <wsky> the ystem freezes and the hibernation is not being properly executed
870 [03:31:10] <BrutusUnix> audio modules
871 [03:31:19] <markybob> yeah i know. i think you're the person i said swap needs 2x ram to be realiable
872 [03:31:46] <wsky> well it just needs to be at least as large as the memory (and completly empty)
873 [03:32:18] <wsky> it's 10G here and it was always more than enough on the previous machine
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877 [03:33:28] <jmcnaught> BrutusUnix: cool. i would have assume that systemd-modules-load would work for that, but i never got to see its status or log messages from your system. anyways i'm glad you figured it out
878 [03:34:34] <wsky> i'm running 'memtester' at the moment
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886 [03:37:33] <zykotick9> markybob: i'd just like to say... hibernate has thus far worked fine (since upgrading my ram and NOT my swap) with 8GB ram and a 5GB swap... /me is NOT using all his ram when he hibernates...
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888 [03:38:37] <markybob> zykotick9: that's the big difference. he used stress to fill his ram to 80% and then it failed. of course it failed.
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890 [03:38:55] <zykotick9> markybob: i'd ask... why? ;)
891 [03:39:28] <markybob> i don't know why he did that. ask him.
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893 [03:40:00] * zykotick9 thinks it seems rather "how to create a problem"...
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895 [03:41:21] <markybob> when you fill you ram of 10G to 80% and you have 8G swap...yeah, sorry.
896 [03:43:47] <dvs> for hibernate?
897 [03:43:58] <markybob> dvs: right
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900 [03:44:41] <dvs> yeah, that ain't gonna work.
901 [03:44:54] <markybob> dvs: that's what i've been saying for 5 hours but he won't listen
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904 [03:46:38] <wsky> i got 8G RAM and 10G swap
905 [03:46:43] <wsky> and it always worked
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907 [03:47:35] <jmcnaught> i don't hibernate very often, and my RAM is hardly ever close to full, but i wonder is there no sanity check for "will it fit?" that would error out?
908 [03:47:59] <markybob> hmm...i don't know of one. that'd be nice
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910 [03:50:06] <wsky> it puts PM: Hibernation mode set to 'platform' into /var/log/debug and then it freezes
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912 [03:51:16] <wsky> however the hdd led stil blinks from time to time
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914 [03:51:39] <wsky> but not often enough for me to suspect it's dumping the image to the disk
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926 [03:53:54] <boyblunder> I'm trying to download the torrents from here: replaced-url
927 [03:54:04] <boyblunder> any help?
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929 [03:55:10] <markybob> boyblunder: i get the same error but it works with dht
930 [03:55:17] <zykotick9> boyblunder: <sidenote> if you have uefi, the live media won't install... /me has no idea about torrent issues, and thinks the netinst _is_ debian's installer...
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932 [03:56:51] <boyblunder> thanks - what's a good DE for a thinkpad x220?
933 [03:57:02] <boyblunder> 12" screen, i5 CPU
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937 [03:57:08] <markybob> boyblunder: well let's backtrack. do you have uefi? can you do http download?
938 [03:57:16] <boyblunder> yeah http works fine
939 [03:57:21] <boyblunder> but I don't want to strain the servers
940 [03:57:24] <boyblunder> and it takes forever
941 [03:57:27] <markybob> boyblunder: then use this replaced-url
942 [03:57:46] <markybob> boyblunder: well if you have a stupid torrent client that can't figure out dht that's all you can do
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944 [03:58:17] <markybob> boyblunder: "best de" has no meaning. it's whatever you like. i personally use xfce
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947 [03:59:10] <zykotick9> xfce sucks !start-de-war ;)
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957 [04:02:22] <awwal> acpi -V ---> "Thermal 0: ok, 51.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 127.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 1 switches to mode hot at temperature 127.0 degrees C" . 127.0 degrees C are limits set by hardware/manufacturer or what?
958 [04:03:45] <markybob> awwal: yes. btw, do you realize how fucking hot that is? it's 260F
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960 [04:04:19] <awwal> markybob, yeah, so 127 C is so carzy fucking hot, xD
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962 [04:05:06] <zykotick9> awwal: i actually don't see a "switches to mode hot" and only see "switches to mode critical" at 99 & 127 degrees C <- i've replaced my default bios with libreboot...
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964 [04:05:28] <markybob> my critical is 84
965 [04:05:29] <BlenderPro> I have a complain about systemd in debian is heavy and demands a lot of explaining is debian estill viable
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967 [04:05:56] <awwal> my machine temps (3 cores) are all the time between 40 and 60 ºC. , so I guess all fine here?
968 [04:05:59] <markybob> BlenderPro: go to #debian-offtopic for systemd rants.
969 [04:06:09] <markybob> awwal: you're fine
970 [04:06:39] <awwal> zykotick9, I wish I can try libreboot but I have no an extra machine available right now ...
971 [04:06:46] <awwal> markybob, I hope so
972 [04:07:45] <markybob> awwal: i'm at 65.5 sitting here doing nothing. you're okay :)
973 [04:07:58] <zykotick9> awwal: i'd _guess_ with 3 cores, that machine probably isn't supported by libreboot ;)
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977 [04:08:40] <zykotick9> markybob: i'm sittin' at 35 and 37... also doin' nothin'.
978 [04:08:59] <markybob> zykotick9: i assume desktop?
979 [04:09:15] <zykotick9> markybob: nope, laptop, r400 lenovo...
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981 [04:09:29] <markybob> zykotick9: oh. i have a shit dell latidude
982 [04:09:31] <awwal> markybob, if no flash/html5 audio/video contents no more then 50 here. so sounds all fine
983 [04:09:50] <markybob> zykotick9: in my defense i didn't buy it :P
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986 [04:10:10] <dvs> markybob, sure, sure
987 [04:10:17] <zykotick9> markybob: in my defense, i worked for dell for a time - but didn't "like" it
988 [04:10:40] <k_sze[work]> How can I *try* to mount a volume defined in autofs, and get a success or error exit code (e.g. if the volume is an NFS volume and it's offline)?
989 [04:10:59] <markybob> zykotick9: then i hate you. i worked for a large company a few years back that was dell only and we had quite a few just start smoking and almost catch fire. wtf
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992 [04:11:33] <markybob> zykotick9: the plastic case melted
993 [04:12:09] * zykotick9 saw Mr. Dell once... he kinda wishes he'd have caught fire <- /me doesn't really, burning alive is too extreme
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995 [04:12:20] <awwal> when I cook fish I put my oven at 250F. seems that I can use my lenovo laptop for cook
996 [04:12:25] <dax> we had a few hundred optiplex 745 go kaput because dell used craptacular capacitors in them. after they already got sued for doing that in earlier models
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998 [04:13:42] <markybob> dax: i didn't realize they got sued. once the support team didn't believe me (even though we had an enterprise account and had to ship them back anyway) and asked me to send them pictures before approving the switch
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1001 [04:14:04] <markybob> wtf would i lie about a computer smoking and almost catching fire? seriously
1002 [04:14:15] <markybob> but i guess we're getting offtopic. sorry.
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1007 [04:15:13] <awwal> zykotick9, libreboot only supports machines higher then 3 core or what you meant?
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1009 [04:16:16] <zykotick9> awwal: libreboot doesn't support many 2+ core machines, only some server boards with 4 cores... <- it's a short list for 3+ core machines, let's just say that...
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1014 [04:17:30] <zykotick9> awwal: coreboot supports a much larger pool of systems.
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1016 [04:18:50] <BlenderPro> the linux kernel y other gnu software are heavier then before, and I reallly prefer the boot process of all times systemv and openrc
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1019 [04:19:37] <awwal> zykotick9, ok, got it
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1026 [04:21:51] <lunarmage> does Jessie run systemd?
1027 [04:21:59] <lunarmage> by default, I mean
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1029 [04:22:43] <BlenderPro> i understand all major linuxes use systemd
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1033 [04:23:14] <wymillerlinux> i think so, since the big debian init 'war'
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1035 [04:23:27] <lunarmage> BlenderPro: Wheezy still ran openrc, I'm asking before spending my time downloading
1036 [04:23:47] <zykotick9> wymillerlinux: stepped on the systemd landmind..
1037 [04:23:55] <lunarmage> though I should mention I'm running raspbian and there isn't a #raspbian
1038 [04:23:59] <zykotick9> s/landmind/landmine/
1039 [04:24:12] <philuk86> systemd runs you
1040 [04:24:18] <zykotick9> !raspbian
1041 [04:24:19] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
1042 [04:24:28] <zykotick9> ^ lunarmage
1043 [04:24:41] <lunarmage> huh, for some reason it didn't let me join at first
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1045 [04:24:53] <lunarmage> but reconnecting o the bouncer worked
1046 [04:24:55] <lunarmage> thanks anyway
1047 [04:25:49] <wymillerlinux> lunarmage: same, rpi 3, it does run systemd
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1049 [04:26:09] <lunarmage> wymillerlinux: oh, thanks
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1051 [04:26:38] <wymillerlinux> lunarmage: no problem
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1053 [04:29:59] <wymillerlinux> hopefully everyone read the bot message on raspbian
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1082 [04:45:36] <BlenderPro> anybody here knows if debian is more secure then windows 7
1083 [04:45:41] <BlenderPro> or can be more secure
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1088 [04:47:59] <avis-> BlenderPro, windows 7 is very insecure
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1090 [04:48:09] <avis-> debian definitely is more secure
1091 [04:48:24] <TacoGS> sounds subjective
1092 [04:48:28] <avis-> debian further is more secure than many other open source distros
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1094 [04:48:46] <TacoGS> A bad user on any system can make it insecure, and humans are the number one security risk
1095 [04:49:26] <Mazhive> i think avis means when installed freshly
1096 [04:49:48] <TacoGS> fresh installs are generally not the measure of good security
1097 [04:50:11] <BlenderPro> avis-, I reconfigured windows 7 to disable all telemetry and also on the browser I just need a firewall haven't found a good one but at lest my os runs faster but does debian comes with a good firewall that blocks outgoing connections too or is that something set by iptables alone
1098 [04:51:32] <BlenderPro> and does debian comes with telemetry for the os
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1101 [04:52:25] <jml2> BlenderPro, ping
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1103 [04:52:53] <jml2> BlenderPro, debian has been using spyware for the 16 years i've been using it
1104 [04:53:01] <jml2> BlenderPro, and I love it
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1106 [04:53:41] <BlenderPro> does it display ads like windows 10
1107 [04:53:47] <BlenderPro> does it comes with a advertising id
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1109 [04:54:45] <jml2> !ops BlenderPro trolling
1110 [04:54:45] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jml2 complains about: BlenderPro trolling
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1115 [04:55:20] <avis-> BlenderPro, yes ufw and gufw are in the repos
1116 [04:55:26] <pingfloyd> TacoGS: "bad user" is such a non sequitur
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1120 [04:56:20] <TacoGS> if you say so
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1131 [05:01:52] <awwal> BlenderPro, have you checked the Heimys link ?
1132 [05:02:43] <awwal> debian-es
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1136 [05:03:57] <awwal> if you are a debian user start from here replaced-url
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1179 [05:26:42] <T4ng10r> hi
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1182 [05:27:03] <T4ng10r> how can I use thunderbird from sid or experimental version?
1183 [05:27:16] <T4ng10r> withouth changing whole debian to sid or experimental release
1184 [05:27:22] <dax> !ssb
1185 [05:27:22] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
1186 [05:28:21] <T4ng10r> how much better this solution is from downloading TB from replaced-url
1187 [05:28:52] <T4ng10r> in second - I have working TB 45, but no version control
1188 [05:29:37] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: it's definitely not safe to install packages from testing/unstable/experimental on a debian stable system
1189 [05:29:56] <T4ng10r> good thinking
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1191 [05:31:29] <T4ng10r> yet - TB v 45 is offically avaiable
1192 [05:31:45] <T4ng10r> debian stable is 38, testing 38
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1195 [05:31:59] <T4ng10r> is newer version so much unstable?
1196 [05:32:36] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: if 45 is in experimental it's being worked on, but the maintainers think there could still be issues with it
1197 [05:33:09] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: are you using Jessie?
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1199 [05:33:19] <T4ng10r> currently - stretch
1200 [05:33:22] <T4ng10r> so testing
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1202 [05:34:01] <T4ng10r> i'm not ready to move to sid
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1204 [05:34:31] <abrotman> T4ng10r: did you check mozilla.debian.net?
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1209 [05:35:54] <T4ng10r> yes, no new information
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1213 [05:37:18] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: i would wait for it to hit unstable, and then install it from there. Also maybe check dpkg's <ssm> or <tum> factoids
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1217 [05:38:07] <T4ng10r> on one hand I'm expecting some cool new features in TB 45
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1219 [05:38:32] <T4ng10r> on the other - I can't find any advanced, custom configuratble mail client
1220 [05:38:54] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: when it reaches unstable if there are no serious bugs it will migrate to strech about a week later
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1224 [05:39:29] <T4ng10r> ok
1225 [05:39:46] <T4ng10r> other question
1226 [05:39:51] <T4ng10r> I've installed Chrome
1227 [05:40:03] <T4ng10r> and it hijack everything as default browser
1228 [05:40:56] <T4ng10r> In icedove/TB I found it reference to x-replaced-url
1229 [05:41:09] <T4ng10r> still launches links in Chrome
1230 [05:41:18] <T4ng10r> where can I find this configuration?
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1232 [05:41:50] <sexytime> question. anyone know how to prevent certain users from ever logging into root?
1233 [05:42:05] <sexytime> not with su, sudo or even if they know the password
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1236 [05:43:18] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: did you do "update-alternatives --config x-replaced-url
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1240 [05:46:39] <jmcnaught> sexytime: not being in sudoers or knowing the root password is not enough?
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1242 [05:47:05] <markybob> sexytime: if they know the root password they're getting in
1243 [05:47:21] <sexytime> its not really for "people" i'm trying to isolate an application
1244 [05:47:44] <sexytime> or at least, if someone gains shell access through that application on an off chance. i dont want them getting into root
1245 [05:48:07] <T4ng10r> yes
1246 [05:48:21] <sexytime> jmcnaught, what are some ways to even get into root? i know of sudo and su only. are there any bases i need to cover ?
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1248 [05:48:37] <T4ng10r> the same problem ie. is in NixNote, which doesn't have any preferenes refering to replaced-url
1249 [05:51:04] <markybob> sexytime: that question makes no sense. there's a million ways. kernel security. apache security. samba.
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1251 [05:51:23] <markybob> sexytime: hell dictionary attacks on ssh
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1253 [05:51:56] <sexytime> seems more a security question i see
1254 [05:52:14] <markybob> sexytime: are you using jessie?
1255 [05:52:21] <sexytime> yes mar
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1257 [05:52:22] <sexytime> markybob,
1258 [05:52:27] <jmcnaught> sexytime: systemd.exec(5) documents a SecureBits= directive that can include noroot. Another approach could be using containers with LXC or systemd-nspawn
1259 [05:52:54] <markybob> sexytime: default jessie is pretty great with security. if they don't have root (su) or sudo you should be good
1260 [05:53:06] <sexytime> thanks
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1263 [05:54:06] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: there are a few ways the default browser is set. Your DE might have a menu for it in its settings/config application. There's also the $BROWSER environment variable used by "sensible-browser"
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1279 [06:01:53] <T4ng10r> i'm using i3
1280 [06:02:06] <T4ng10r> and i removed all refernces to xfce
1281 [06:02:20] <T4ng10r> so i don't know where else those settings could be stored
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1284 [06:02:50] <wsky> so i've found this: replaced-url
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1289 [06:05:24] <wsky> it wasn't just me, it seems just that hibernation can be randomly broken on different setups
1290 [06:05:52] <markybob> "Second, the reason is that the image size automatically computed by the kernel is too large to fit into memory which is related to the way highmem is handled by the hibernate core"
1291 [06:05:58] <markybob> so what i've said all along
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1295 [06:07:09] <wsky> well it worked flawlessly on the machine i cloned this drive from
1296 [06:07:20] <wsky> which also was a 8GB RAM setup
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1300 [06:08:09] <markybob> wsky: you can either listen to answers or not. but spending several hours ignoring responses by multiple people is just ridiculous
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1302 [06:08:26] <wsky> what is your problem?
1303 [06:08:45] <wsky> i'm not ignporing any answers i get
1304 [06:08:48] <markybob> wsky: you're wasting everyone's time because you refuse to listen. you're right. so why ask?
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1308 [06:09:20] <wsky> all you were saying is that i have to have twice ram swap partition to make it worse
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1310 [06:09:26] <wsky> and this is false
1311 [06:09:26] <BlenderPro> hi
1312 [06:09:41] <wsky> to make it work*
1313 [06:09:44] <wsky> hi
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1315 [06:10:11] <markybob> wsky: sure. so we all gave you our advice. now it's up to you. take it or don't. asking over and over again over man hours does nothing.
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1317 [06:10:23] <markybob> many*
1318 [06:10:31] <wsky> markybob: it's a public channel and i'm not talking only to you
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1321 [06:10:54] <markybob> and the channel policy does say not to ask over and over again
1322 [06:11:02] <wsky> you're not the only one here and i'm hoping for other people to get involved, hopefully solve the problem
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1324 [06:11:15] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: what does 'xdg-settings get default-web-browser' say?
1325 [06:11:17] <wsky> markybob: i asked twice
1326 [06:11:24] <markybob> ha
1327 [06:11:25] <wsky> markybob: is that a problem already?
1328 [06:11:40] <jmcnaught> i think it's time to let it go...
1329 [06:12:28] <awwal> T4ng10r, you have to set iceweasel as default (manual) for replaced-url
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1341 [06:20:14] <T4ng10r> in replaced-url
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1343 [06:21:11] <T4ng10r> got to got
1344 [06:21:16] <T4ng10r> thank you for support
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1382 [06:53:48] <Gao> hello eveybody!
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1390 [06:55:28] <Gao> I got a problem, I am using debian 8.4, when I execute this command: sudo apt-get update, I get a error: hash sum mismatch
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1392 [06:56:02] <Gao> I try many ways I can find by google, but no one worked
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1400 [07:00:12] <civillian> Gao: it probably means the mirror you're using isn't fully up-to-date, try another mirror
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1405 [07:02:13] <Gao> @civillian, thank you! My main mirror is mirrors.163.com in China, security mirror is security.debian.org, I will try it.
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1407 [07:02:34] <Gao> Maybe this is the problem
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1509 [08:07:34] <RippyDippy> Hey guys. I am writing a script to copy a bunch of files from across my system into one git repo. Is there a clean way to do this
1510 [08:07:54] <RippyDippy> without 20 odd 'cp /foo /bar/'
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1514 [08:09:53] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: is there some sort of pattern that is unique about these files?
1515 [08:11:13] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Other than them all going to the same directory, not really.
1516 [08:11:26] <RippyDippy> They are a collection of dotfiles and config files from across my machine
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1518 [08:12:23] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: not really a way to tell the computer to only move specific files unless you have a way to identify the desired files to the computer
1519 [08:12:53] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: if you only have to do it once, just do it manually. if you have to repeat this on several systems, write a script that does it
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1532 [08:17:35] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: yeah Im writing a script, but I dont script often enough. I had a C solution in my head, but I think repetative cp's might be the only solution
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1538 [08:19:13] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: if it's something you can express with the find command you could use that, but if it's a bunch of arbitrary files cherrypicked from across your system i don't really see a way
1539 [08:19:22] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: do you have to do this for multiple systems?
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1541 [08:19:39] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Luckily no
1542 [08:19:50] <MaBunny> guys where do i ask Gnome desktop specific issues?? i mean which chan??
1543 [08:20:12] <RippyDippy> MaBunny: Don't quote me on this, but have you tried #gnome?
1544 [08:20:23] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: well if you don't think you'll need to repeat this process a script might not be worth it
1545 [08:20:24] <MaBunny> ok thnx
1546 [08:20:39] * jml2 #smokes
1547 [08:20:50] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: I do need to repeat this task weekly though.
1548 [08:20:54] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: you can ask about Gnome in here, but often the dedicated channel for something will have better answers
1549 [08:21:52] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: is this an XY problem? What's the real problem you're trying to solve?
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1551 [08:22:32] <wsky> markybob: jmcnaught so it was the kernel, 4.2.8 flawlessly hibernates finally, took me whole night ot figure this out
1552 [08:23:12] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Well I am about to post many of my config/dotfiles to github. And I want a script I can run to copy/update my files into one directory that I can then just push
1553 [08:23:13] <jmcnaught> wsky: glad you made some progress. how did you end up with a 4.2.8 kernel?
1554 [08:23:21] <wsky> jmcnaught: kernel.org
1555 [08:23:27] <RippyDippy> rather than just copying them all one at a time
1556 [08:23:39] <wsky> jmcnaught: i had a backported 4.2 before when it was working
1557 [08:23:48] <jmcnaught> wsky: why not use the kernel from jessie-backports?
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1559 [08:23:52] <MaBunny> no...its something i did better ask there :)
1560 [08:23:57] <wsky> jmcnaught: but it was unavailable with debian repositories anymore
1561 [08:24:08] <wsky> jmcnaught: because there is no 4.2 in the backports anymore
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1563 [08:24:18] <wsky> jmcnaught: and i'm unaware of any rollbacks available
1564 [08:24:27] <jml2> RippyDippy, you can send a list file to tar or i think even rsync
1565 [08:24:28] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: Do you know about GNU stow?
1566 [08:24:47] <jml2> RippyDippy, then pass that file to a git-upload binary
1567 [08:25:00] <jml2> RippyDippy, (the tarfile)
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1570 [08:25:54] <RippyDippy> SO MANY OPTIONS
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1572 [08:26:01] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Tell me more about stow
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1574 [08:26:26] <RippyDippy> jml2: ?? So... pass the file names in a csv to rysnc?
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1577 [08:27:46] <jelly> RippyDippy: look at etckeeper, maybe?
1578 [08:27:54] <jelly> ,i etckeeper
1579 [08:27:55] <judd> Package etckeeper (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. Version: 1.15; Size: 33.9k; Installed: 206k; Homepage: replaced-url
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1581 [08:28:02] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: replaced-url
1582 [08:28:03] <jml2> RippyDippy, --files-from=
1583 [08:28:10] <jml2> RippyDippy, for tar it's something else
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1585 [08:28:34] <jml2> RippyDippy, for tar it's the same but uses a space (or -T )
1586 [08:29:15] <jml2> RippyDippy, tar has a -u for update
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1588 [08:29:54] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: rsync with includes and excludes could work too, and etckeeper is great for /etc
1589 [08:29:57] <jml2> (or --update , -u, u ... could be used without the option as itis an action)
1590 [08:29:58] <RippyDippy> Ok. Thats a lot of info. Research time. Thanks guys!
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1594 [08:32:29] <jmcnaught> wsky: would linux 4.5 not work for your system?
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1596 [08:32:42] <wsky> jmcnaught: i tired 4.5, didn't work
1597 [08:32:46] <wsky> tried*
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1608 [08:37:52] <pierreqi> /msg NickServ identify am25dt
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1679 [09:18:53] <RippyDippy> Alright, so I tried a few different options
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1681 [09:19:56] <RippyDippy> I ended up writing a short 3 line script, that loops through a txt file where I store all the files/directory names, and copies each to my destination file
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1683 [09:20:16] <RippyDippy> rsync and stow would have worked, but this solution seemed very light weight and simple
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1707 [09:36:47] <MaBunny> hey guys what display manager does debian 8.4 ship with it???
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1719 [09:42:55] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: replaced-url
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1721 [09:43:21] <MaBunny> ok
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1725 [09:44:55] <MaBunny> it gives a invalid command option message
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1729 [09:47:20] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: check for typos?
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1731 [09:47:53] <MaBunny> idk
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1733 [09:48:07] <MaBunny> aptitude search -P -x -display-manager
1734 [09:48:17] <MaBunny> i pressed tht too
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1737 [09:49:01] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: that's not the command, it was "aptitude search ~Px-window-manager" the character before P is a tilde, and you added spaces
1738 [09:49:18] <MaBunny> oh sorry
1739 [09:49:48] <MaBunny> but which one does my Debian hav???
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1741 [09:50:17] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: the long form is aptitude search '?provides(x-display-manager)', x-display manager is a virtual package, this command show packages that provide the virtual package
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1743 [09:50:58] <MaBunny> no...i dont want a list...i want to kno which one my desktop has...for the issue i hav with gnome
1744 [09:51:08] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: the one with an "i" in the first column instead of a 'p'
1745 [09:51:13] <MaBunny> it is for tht issue im asking you guys :)
1746 [09:51:43] <MaBunny> wait
1747 [09:52:29] <RippyDippy> is there a way to make a directory if one doesnt already exists with CP, much like any text editor creates if it cant find a preexisting file to edit
1748 [09:52:48] <MaBunny> well...is it small i or 'I'???
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1752 [09:54:35] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: why, where do you see a mix of 'i' and 'I'?
1753 [09:54:57] <MaBunny> idk...im a noob :(
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1756 [09:55:41] <MaBunny> well...i typed "aptitude search ~ix-display-manager"
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1758 [09:56:52] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: did you try the command i gave you? in the results at least one line will start with an 'i' to indicated it is installed
1759 [09:57:57] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: if you want to search for "provides x-display-manager and is installed' the expression would be ~i ~Px-window-manager. Search term reference: replaced-url
1760 [09:58:38] <MaBunny> yeah...its i on gdm3
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1763 [09:58:45] <MaBunny> really fucking of me
1764 [09:58:55] <jmcnaught> MaBunny: pardon?
1765 [09:59:24] <MaBunny> no...i didnt understand you earlier
1766 [09:59:40] <MaBunny> i should hav...instead of wasting time
1767 [10:00:01] <MaBunny> ok...thnx jmcnaught for your time :)
1768 [10:00:03] <jmcnaught> RippyDippy: do you mean an empty directory? "cp -r" creates directories
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1774 [10:03:40] <GRiZL0C> hey guys i bought 2 raspberrypi 3B both with same wireless keyboard mouse combo model mk220 its really compact i highly recommend the Logitech MK220 for your Pi.
1775 [10:04:08] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Got it
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1779 [10:09:01] <Aliekezhi> hi, heard about a debian version for this project ? replaced-url
1780 [10:09:20] <Aliekezhi> Isn't there no debian maintainer ?
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1795 [10:12:04] <psylence> Aliekezhi: interested?
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1797 [10:12:35] <Aliekezhi> psylence, in using it yes ^^
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1799 [10:13:13] <psylence> Aliekezhi, are you looking for a .deb?
1800 [10:13:22] <psylence> You could just compile it from source...
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1805 [10:14:34] <Aliekezhi> psylence, I'm not used to compile on debian, is there a way to make it in a clean way, so that I can uninstall it without letting part of it everywhere ?
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1807 [10:15:47] <jmcnaught> Aliekezhi: i don't see why this would be better than firefox really. seems like it's one person's fork/patch on firefox.. what qualifies them to make better decisions than Mozilla? How do they have the resources and competence to keep it secure?
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1809 [10:16:56] <Aliekezhi> jmcnaught, hum maybe you're right, then what alternatives would you advice me for an old laptop who can't run firefox properly ?
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1811 [10:17:23] <thms> !wheezy->jessie
1812 [10:17:27] <Aliekezhi> jmcnaught, (the lightest possible web browser)
1813 [10:17:28] <thms> !upgrade
1814 [10:17:28] <dpkg> it has been said that upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <squeeze->wheezy> <wheezy->jessie>.
1815 [10:17:39] <thms> !<wheezy->jessie>
1816 [10:17:45] <thms> !wheezy->jessie
1817 [10:17:49] <jmcnaught> thms: you can message the bot
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1821 [10:18:13] <thms> Alright sorry for the noise people.
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1823 [10:18:37] <psylence> Aliekezhi, chromium?
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1825 [10:18:54] <Aliekezhi> psylence, isn't that as heavy as firefox ?
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1827 [10:19:05] <psylence> Aliekezhi, I'm on a 7-year-old laptop and I run vanilla firefox just fine.
1828 [10:19:18] <jmcnaught> Aliekezhi: Firefox/Iceweasel and Chromium are the two best support browsers that get security updates on Jessie. There are other more lightweight browsers like Dillo, links, lynx but they won't have the same compatibility with sites
1829 [10:19:19] <psylence> Are you sure your machine can't run firefox?
1830 [10:19:19] <Aliekezhi> psylence, maybe you dont open 30 tabs at the same time :D
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1833 [10:19:47] <Johann> Aliekezhi: you can try uzbl and surf, i don't know if you can get use to their interface, but they're worth a test
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1836 [10:20:05] <jmcnaught> Aliekezhi: use fewer tabs then, and disable some extensions if you use any
1837 [10:20:29] <RoyK> psylence: how much memory? what sort of cpu?
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1840 [10:22:30] <Aliekezhi> RoyK, I'm running on old IBM thinkpad X40 ^^
1841 [10:23:52] <Aliekezhi> Johann, jmcnaught thank you for your suggestions, I'll try these browser. If it's not enough, I guess I will have to transform it into a thin client, and connect over SPICE to my main computer at home :)
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1844 [10:26:05] <RoyK> Aliekezhi: what about cpu/memory?
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1854 [10:29:55] <Aliekezhi> RoyK, 1GB memory
1855 [10:30:14] <Aliekezhi> RoyK, Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GH
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1870 [10:42:40] <MaBunny> Hey guys....i hav a problem
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1873 [10:43:02] <MaBunny> All of a sudden after rebooting my computer
1874 [10:43:33] <MaBunny> It doesnt reach the point of login screen
1875 [10:43:57] <MaBunny> I mean it says write access unavailable
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1877 [10:44:12] <MaBunny> On sda1
1878 [10:44:53] <MaBunny> Read-only file system while trying to open /dev/sda1
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1880 [10:45:39] <MaBunny> Target filesystem doesnt hav requested /sbin/init
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1883 [10:46:47] <MaBunny> Is there a command in busybox to load the filesystem when it cant find it
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1885 [10:48:24] <MaBunny> As of this moment...im sitting in front of my computer...staring at a black screen :(
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1891 [10:50:59] <MaBunny> Wellit says to pass init=args
1892 [10:51:06] <MaBunny> *well it
1893 [10:51:51] <MaBunny> So...is there any command tht init knos to change the disk to r/w and load the system???
1894 [10:52:05] <jaggz> I have a server still running squeeze...
1895 [10:52:12] <jaggz> what's the process to get that updated?
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1898 [10:53:07] <jaggz> it's a remote server, and updating these things from here puts some fear in me
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1900 [10:53:54] <MaBunny> Thoshtta
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1905 [10:56:32] <MaBunny> It means whats the matter
1906 [10:56:42] <MaBunny> In japanese
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1913 [10:58:18] <MaBunny> Theres stty command when i type help... But i dont kno its usage
1914 [10:58:31] <MaBunny> And also one more thing
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1917 [10:59:22] <MaBunny> If i had hurted/insulted someone by mistake in the last 1 n half hour....im srry
1918 [10:59:44] <MaBunny> I guess...
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1922 [11:01:49] <MaBunny> So...thoshtta
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1938 [11:06:14] <darxmurf> hi all
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1947 [11:10:38] <MaBunny> So...it means...i wont be getting any help???
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1951 [11:12:13] <sbine> MaBunny: You can ask on ##linux, or wait here for someone who could help you
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1957 [11:13:32] <MaBunny> I feel like ive hurted someone and thts why nobody is helping me...im srry if i did
1958 [11:13:44] <MaBunny> Ok
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1960 [11:14:08] <sbine> You don't hurted anybody
1961 [11:14:27] <sbine> people are probably sleeping
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1963 [11:14:37] <MaBunny> Mount -t proc proc /proc says failed device or resource busy
1964 [11:15:11] <MaBunny> Im also trying to get things on my own...atleast im trying
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1966 [11:15:17] <MaBunny> :(
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1968 [11:17:01] <jaggz> MaBunny, come back during our regular business hours?
1969 [11:17:13] <MaBunny> Ok
1970 [11:17:13] <jaggz> I'm having a tough time finding help too
1971 [11:17:14] <sbine> Maybe you have more luck with asking that on the oftc network
1972 [11:17:47] <MaBunny> Im in a smartphone guys...its tough typing things
1973 [11:18:01] <jaggz> k
1974 [11:18:45] <MaBunny> Ls -l gives bin,conf,dev,etc,init,lib,proc,root,run,sbin,scripts,sys,tmp,var
1975 [11:18:50] <MaBunny> Idk
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1986 [11:21:59] <valerio-bozzolan> Hello :) I noticed that `apt-mirror` whites 100 lines/s of wget output in archive-log.0
1987 [11:22:14] <valerio-bozzolan> Writes *
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2015 [11:35:02] <MaBunny> Ok i think i found my solution :D
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2017 [11:35:18] <sbine> Nice!
2018 [11:36:22] <MaBunny> Im going to try it now...so hope it works :)
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2031 [11:42:59] <MaBunny> Sbine do you kno the command to make a disk writeable???
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2037 [11:44:47] <sbine> Have you tried booting in single mode?
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2039 [11:45:05] <MaBunny> Idk
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2045 [11:45:23] <MaBunny> It says my disks are only readable
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2048 [11:46:16] <MaBunny> I tried having a control over /dev/tty1
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2051 [11:46:24] <MaBunny> It worked
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2053 [11:46:44] <sbine> replace the init line with init="/bin/bash"
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2055 [11:47:04] <sbine> then mount -rw -o remount /
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2058 [11:47:39] <MaBunny> How do i access the init file...i mean where is it
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2062 [11:48:23] <sbine> When grub appeears, press e
2063 [11:48:41] <MaBunny> Ok
2064 [11:48:45] <sbine> choose the kernel line
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2066 [11:49:00] <gdev> How to build a *.deb package which runs a command after the package was installed? (Note: Already can build a normal deb package)
2067 [11:49:01] <sbine> and presse e to edit it
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2069 [11:49:43] <MaBunny> Yes im in the init file
2070 [11:49:53] <MaBunny> I mean seeing it
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2078 [11:54:46] <sbine> MaBunny: Oh mistake dont replace the init line, just append init="/bin/bash" at the end of the line, separated by a space
2079 [11:54:52] <MaBunny> Ok i had written "/bin/bash" but it didnt start bash
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2082 [11:55:08] <MaBunny> Yes i figured tht out :)
2083 [11:55:42] <MaBunny> I just dont kno the command to make a disk writeable
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2086 [11:57:52] <sbine> Can you browse the net?
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2088 [11:58:09] <sbine> replaced-url
2089 [11:58:23] <sbine> take a look at that if you can
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2092 [11:58:39] <sbine> The Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS 7 section
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2098 [12:03:38] <MaBunny> Srry i was on firefox searching for chnging disks to writable...i did found wht i want but
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2100 [12:04:31] <MaBunny> There is no sudo in busybox and i dont kno wht is the root command for busybox
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2103 [12:05:04] <MaBunny> Sbine can you tell me wht it is??
2104 [12:05:10] <sbine> su - ?
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2106 [12:05:18] <MaBunny> Ok ill try
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2110 [12:06:00] <MaBunny> Su also not there
2111 [12:06:20] <debuser> i have t460s laptop, and installed firmware from linux kernel org with linux-firmware_1.127.22_all.deb
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2114 [12:06:35] <MaBunny> No...typing help doesnt show su or sudo there
2115 [12:06:38] <debuser> but how can i enable wireless card?
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2117 [12:06:59] <sbine> Can't help more MaBunny
2118 [12:07:05] <sbine> I don't know
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2122 [12:07:43] <debuser> following replaced-url
2123 [12:07:44] <MaBunny> Hehe
2124 [12:07:47] <debuser> any advice?
2125 [12:07:59] <MaBunny> Ok...its ok sbine
2126 [12:08:11] <MaBunny> Thnx for your time :D
2127 [12:08:29] <sbine> np
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2131 [12:08:50] <themill> !ifrp
2132 [12:08:51] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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2176 [12:30:04] <sbine> MaBunny: Try what themill say, i read the busybox man page, there is a switch_root command
2177 [12:30:12] <sbine> maybe that can help
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2186 [12:31:31] <debuser> how do i enable wireless in debian?
2187 [12:33:01] <towo^work> install the right firmware for your secret wireless hardware?
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2189 [12:33:08] <teraflops> You install wireless tools wpa supplicant and be sure your wireless nick is detected property (some may need firmware)
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2194 [12:34:12] <debuser> yes i install firmware, but checking /sbin/ifconfig
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2196 [12:34:19] <debuser> no wlan, etc. found
2197 [12:34:27] <debuser> only eth0 and lo existed
2198 [12:34:57] <debuser> mylaptop is t460s and following replaced-url
2199 [12:35:03] <debuser> now mod is up as well
2200 [12:35:07] <debuser> but don't know enable wireless
2201 [12:35:08] <teraflops> debuser: look at dmesg and lspci outputs
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2203 [12:35:31] <teraflops> Oh bcm crap
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2208 [12:36:28] <debuser> lspci show network controller: intel corporation wireless 8260 (rev 3a)
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2210 [12:37:07] <debuser> dmesg | grep net shows e100e:intel pro/1000 network driver 2.3.2-k
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2215 [12:37:59] <teraflops> debuser: the wireless nic is broadcom or Intel?
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2218 [12:38:25] <markybob> debuser: what you need to do is paste lspci -nn to paste.debian.net
2219 [12:38:32] <markybob> debuser: because you're being confusing as hell
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2221 [12:39:26] <donnoc> Hi my freinds. I know I cann ad text to a file with "echo "foo" >> bar.log" but how can I Echo it to the bash output AND add it to a file?
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2223 [12:39:54] <teraflops> donnoc: fifos
2224 [12:40:09] <debuser> lspci -nn shows network controller: intel ... wireless 8260
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2226 [12:40:30] <markybob> debuser: we don't care. we need the pastebin. there's a pciid in there that we need to see
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2228 [12:41:28] <markybob> debuser: but probably what you need to do is apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi and then reboot
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2230 [12:41:36] <debuser> sorry that's the problem. :( currently i use another laptop to go online. don't know how to copy paste between screen
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2232 [12:42:09] <teraflops> donnoc: you man at the same time?
2233 [12:42:24] <markybob> debuser: you have eth0 you said. can you plug it into ethernet to download that firmware file i just told you about?
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2235 [12:42:33] <debuser> i've already installed all firmeware from linux kernel org replaced-url
2236 [12:42:45] <markybob> debuser: so you're using ubuntu?
2237 [12:42:47] <donnoc> teraflops: at the same time would be great, because I don't want do add a line of code twice
2238 [12:42:57] <debuser> markybob, here i do not have ethernet which is the worst : (
2239 [12:43:03] <markybob> debuser: this isn't #ubuntu. this is #debian. we cant support that
2240 [12:43:07] <debuser> no, i use debian amd 64
2241 [12:43:21] <themill> I don't think the 8260 card as a driver available in jessie; I don't know about jessie-backports.
2242 [12:43:24] <markybob> debuser: but you're using an ubuntu mirror.
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2244 [12:44:02] <teraflops> donnoc: ls -al | tee blah.txt
2245 [12:44:14] <debuser> the ubuntu link is to give myself a chance to get it work because i run out of strategies
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2247 [12:44:48] <debuser> i download debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso from unofficial website
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2249 [12:45:02] <teraflops> debuser: please paste the pciid of the wireless.nic
2250 [12:45:04] <debuser> after installation completes (no network)
2251 [12:45:12] <donnoc> teraflops: tee? ok, I will try that
2252 [12:45:35] <debuser> teraflops: how can i obtain pciid info?
2253 [12:45:47] <teraflops> Lspci -kk
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2255 [12:45:57] <markybob> debuser: you need to set up jessie-backports in sources.list and then install firmware-iwlwifi from backports. replaced-url
2256 [12:45:59] <donnoc> teraflops: great, that worked well. Thank you teraflops =D
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2258 [12:46:32] <debuser> wait a min. need type it in pastebin sorry : (
2259 [12:46:56] <teraflops> -nn sorry
2260 [12:47:10] <teraflops> donnoc: np
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2266 [12:48:06] <markybob> teraflops: i'm afraid we're going to go back to broadcom again :/
2267 [12:48:25] <teraflops> Heh bcm nightmare
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2289 [12:56:38] <hellyeah> hey
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2291 [12:56:43] <hellyeah> anyone use pug?
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2331 [13:14:57] <ChrisH> !ask
2332 [13:14:57] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2334 [13:15:22] <hellyeah> i upgrade debian jessie to stretch right now
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2336 [13:15:43] <markybob> hellyeah: then you're in the wrong place for support. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic
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2339 [13:16:14] <hellyeah> ah
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2341 [13:16:18] <hellyeah> i didnt know that
2342 [13:16:33] <markybob> yeah i don't know why no one seems to read the channel /topic
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2347 [13:17:02] <hellyeah> hmm
2348 [13:17:08] <hellyeah> i think if you have any changes
2349 [13:17:20] <hellyeah> sending message to p.m. can be nicer
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2353 [13:18:00] <markybob> pm is against channel policy also :P
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2368 [13:27:34] <High_Priest> anyone here using viber on debian?
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2379 [13:37:51] <rihbyne> hi there debian folks!
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2387 [13:39:51] <frshbeetz> sb levelclear -levels JOINS,PARTS,QUITS,NICKS,CLIENTCRAP,CRAP,MODE,TOPICS,KICKS
2388 [13:39:55] <rihbyne> considering stable debian repo. if a particular package vulnerability is discovered...is it patched immediately and made available as an update through api-get?
2389 [13:39:55] <frshbeetz> oops
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2392 [13:40:33] <markybob> rihbyne: yes that's how stable works.
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2395 [13:41:13] <rihbyne> markybob: are you sure they are patched within a shortest time period?
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2398 [13:41:41] <markybob> rihbyne: as much as possible as. debian tries hard to be as secure as possible
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2402 [13:45:17] <rihbyne> okay.cool.I am reading debian administration guide :)
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2428 [13:58:30] <Skyrider> Has anyone installed debian on a think client before?
2429 [13:59:01] <bazhang> thin?
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2431 [13:59:08] <Skyrider> Sorry, ya.. thin client.
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2444 [14:05:55] <dcpc007> teraflops: cluster admin ?
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2446 [14:06:25] <Mazhive> he guys trying to get ipv6 working.. some one helpfulll..
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2450 [14:07:10] <Mazhive> i can ping6 to adress but cannot to dnsname is this a reversedns issue
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2455 [14:10:13] <teraflops> dcpc007: wat?
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2460 [14:12:27] <teraflops> dcpc007: nope reverse dns issue is when e.g `host ip address` returns not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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2462 [14:12:44] <teraflops> ups I meant Mazhive
2463 [14:13:05] <dcpc007> whith your pseudo i ask if you were in cluster admin :)
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2466 [14:13:24] <teraflops> dcpc007: ah heh nope
2467 [14:14:24] <Mazhive> is some one able to ping my ipv6 number vollunteers please ;)
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2470 [14:16:08] <teraflops> Mazhive: Im not clairvoyant ...
2471 [14:16:16] <JyZyXEL> wow, i was wondering why is there a daemon called "sanlock" suddenly running on my system, taking ~35 MiB of memory...
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2474 [14:16:46] <JyZyXEL> so aptitude why tells me: i libsanlock-dev Depends sanlock (= 2.2-2)
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2476 [14:17:01] <JyZyXEL> and the only reason i could think of why that package is installed, is because some build-dep pulled it
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2478 [14:17:21] <ochiottes> judd:
2479 [14:17:41] <JyZyXEL> how do i prevent build-deps from cluttering my system and spawning un-necessary daemons behind my back?
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2489 [14:20:05] <dionysus69> gnome fails to load extensions after wake up and I am forced to alt+f2 <-"r" on every wake up. anyone know of a solution? I am on gnome 3.14
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2491 [14:21:20] <teraflops> dionysus69: 3rd party gnome extension? go ask the devel I guess
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2493 [14:21:46] <dionysus69> well arent all extensions 3rd party?
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2495 [14:22:04] <dionysus69> pretty much all extensions are affected, I dont know which ones arent
2496 [14:22:04] <teraflops> more reasons for asking the devel
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2498 [14:22:19] <teraflops> ah all the extension?
2499 [14:22:25] <dionysus69> yep
2500 [14:22:29] <teraflops> hmm
2501 [14:22:30] <dionysus69> thats pretty rare I suppose
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2511 [14:24:28] <spleen> Hi all. I have a default file conf. example inside ==>
2512 [14:24:36] <spleen> var1=A
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2515 [14:24:45] <spleen> var2=B
2516 [14:25:01] <spleen> var="$var1 $var2"
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2519 [14:25:27] <spleen> i want to call my variable "$var" in a systemd script.
2520 [14:25:33] <spleen> I used =>
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2525 [14:25:59] <spleen> EnvironmentFile=/etc/default/myConfFile
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2527 [14:26:11] <warsoul> hi
2528 [14:26:24] <warsoul> where can i download debian for a new install
2529 [14:26:26] <spleen> and ExecStart=/usr/bin/java $var ...lot of stuff..
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2531 [14:26:36] <spleen> but it doesnt work
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2533 [14:26:49] <spleen> Can anybody help me please :s ?
2534 [14:27:10] <Javabean> warsoul: replaced-url
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2537 [14:29:02] <warsoul> javabean how manny cds i have to download
2538 [14:29:13] <themill> spleen: EnvironmentFile is just read in, it's not a shell script
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2540 [14:30:08] <warsoul> because i see debian-8.4.0-amd64-cd-1.iso
2541 [14:30:12] <warsoul> cd-2
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2543 [14:30:14] <warsoul> etc.
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2545 [14:30:24] <spleen> themill, thanks for answer. so how can i do that ? I just want to read some variable in a conf file, and call these variable in My ExecStart instruction
2546 [14:30:32] <Javabean> you only need cd1 to install a base system. if you grab one of the live installers though, it will have everything you need to have to install that Desktop Environment
2547 [14:31:31] <warsoul> ok
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2549 [14:31:58] <warsoul> im downloading it to a computer to put it on cd and install it in another one
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2551 [14:32:45] <themill> spleen: that works fine
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2553 [14:32:56] <Javabean> it can be put on a usb stick and run from that, if the computer can boot from usb
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2555 [14:33:17] <warsoul> ok
2556 [14:33:20] <warsoul> so with cd-1
2557 [14:33:24] <warsoul> i should be good
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2560 [14:34:30] <spleen> themill, 'didnt understant. How to do that ?
2561 [14:34:57] <Javabean> if you have never worked with debian before, it might be easier to use one of the live installers though
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2576 [14:41:49] <jubo2> where is aptitude binary located?
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2578 [14:42:05] <jubo2> I think I dunn skip "install sshd" part on getting a new server to migrate to
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2581 [14:42:44] <jubo2> I got root@sysresccd via VNC
2582 [14:43:04] <jubo2> so I think I just need to 'aptitude install sshd' and it'll be ait..?
2583 [14:43:13] <jubo2> but I don't see it in /bin
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2587 [14:44:41] <jubo2> I just need to cd to the dir where I can find the 'aptitude' binary executable plos
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2590 [14:45:23] <spleen> i have done something like that : replaced-url
2591 [14:45:35] <spleen> but doesnt work for me...
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2594 [14:46:32] <jophish> Hi all
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2596 [14:47:06] <jubo2> There was the white on blue dialogue about installing "additional" and I don't want no webserver nor any other default stuff. But I'd expect the installation process (for server system, opposite default for client is brainsane) to INSTALL SSHD for me
2597 [14:47:23] <jophish> I'm trying to install Jessie from a usb disk. When I boot I get a uefi error "invalid signature detected". I've tried with the Jessie amd64 dvd image and the nonfree drivers image
2598 [14:47:26] <jubo2> Maybe I just tell 'em to scrap this server and just create another one
2599 [14:47:59] <jonkri> Trying to install libmail-sfp-query-perl, I'm getting a message that it's not available, but is referred to by another package. I'm not sure exactly what this means, what other package is referring to it, or what I can install instead. How am I generally supposed to investigate this?
2600 [14:48:07] <themill> spleen: "something like" isn't very informative
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2606 [14:50:43] <alioui_> hi all, why systemctl report wrong status of a service. the service is running and systemctl says it is stop
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2609 [14:51:02] <alioui_> after system stop service
2610 [14:51:09] <jophish> Am I correct in understanding that all the Jessie images support SecureBoot?
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2662 [15:09:14] <jophish> Would it be possible to install Jessie without UEFI and then reenable that?
2663 [15:10:29] <Devastator> jmcnaught ping? would you help me continue setting up KVM? I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage pool?
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2676 [15:16:13] <jophish> Ah, It doesn't support secureboot replaced-url
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2691 [15:20:03] <warsoul> im trying to boot from cd but is getting back to normal windows starting
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2698 [15:23:00] <jophish> is it possible to use mokmanager to add a key for the debian bootloader?
2699 [15:23:12] <Iridos> I have a webpage with basic auth and iceweasel just hangs on it... in the web console I can see 401 authorisation denied... there's never a dialog popping up
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2702 [15:23:37] <tapacenbal> Hi, Is a NVMe SSD bottlenecked with a 16 PCI-E lanes CPU ?
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2725 [15:33:12] <jophish> During installation I'm hitting a problem looking for the iwlwifi firmware
2726 [15:33:26] <jophish> I've got the netinstall-with-nonfree-firmware image
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2733 [15:37:46] <somiaj> jophish: that is strange, the iwlwifi firmware is on that image? Could it be you have a newer iwlwifi card and the 3.16 kernel + firmware is not new enough for the device and you need backports?
2734 [15:38:33] <warsoul> someone could help me out
2735 [15:38:36] <warsoul> please
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2737 [15:38:46] <jophish> somiaj: I fixed it by unpacking the nonfree firmware package into the firmware directory on the usb disk
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2742 [15:39:09] <jophish> warsoul: you might need to press F2 or F12 during boot to get a choice
2743 [15:39:30] <warsoul> jophish i press F12 y select boot from cd
2744 [15:39:42] <warsoul> but is not doing nothing it goes straight to windows again
2745 [15:39:42] <jophish> hmm, weird
2746 [15:40:05] <warsoul> im burning the cd again
2747 [15:40:32] <somiaj> jophish: ahh, sounds like you don't have the non-free installer, you just have the non-free firmware (which the normal isntaller can use if you do what you described)
2748 [15:40:56] <jophish> somiaj: yeah, I thought I had the nonfree installer, how odd
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2750 [15:42:00] <somiaj> warsoul: burning a cd? You aren't using usb? Are you sure you are correctly using efi or legacy boot?
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2754 [15:43:55] <High_Priest> anyone here using viber on debian?
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2757 [15:45:00] <ChrisH> dpkg: tell High_Priest about ask
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2762 [15:46:51] <Orangs> Good day.
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2774 [15:49:36] <High_Priest> has anyone here been able to run latest viber on debian 8.4 ?
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2777 [15:50:22] <somiaj> ,v viber
2778 [15:50:23] <judd> No package named 'viber' was found in amd64.
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2781 [15:51:37] <somiaj> High_Priest: you won't get a very good answer to that specific question here. It seems that viber is not a package in debian so you would have to install it following the upstream directions. Debian is setup so you can compile software not in debian and run it. But you may want to look at viber support for details on how that
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2783 [15:53:33] <somiaj> High_Priest: it appears viber has a .deb for debian that may work. They don't specify what os the .deb was made for. It also appears that it is non-free so you will have to talk to viber's support if installing that deb doesn't work
2784 [15:53:44] <High_Priest> I have already tried talking with viber support and it seems that they decided to drop support for debian but support only fedora/ubuntu so their official answer is that it is no longer supported. I was hoping someone maybe found a way to actually run it on debian
2785 [15:54:00] <somiaj> High_Priest: what I would try is 'dpkg -i foo.deb' and then 'apt-get -f install'
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2787 [15:54:37] <somiaj> High_Priest: if they no longer support the versions of the libaries found in debian stable, and only proivided you a non-free binary that links to libaries only found in ubuntu, it won't be easy
2788 [15:54:45] <High_Priest> somiaj, I have installed that deb. It does not run. It reports "This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"."
2789 [15:54:53] <somiaj> High_Priest: and it also sounds like you have your answer. The provider of said software isn't supporting jessie.
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2791 [15:55:16] <somiaj> High_Priest: well if debian doens't provide the qt platform plugin version it needs, you won't get it to work easily in debian.
2792 [15:55:29] <somiaj> High_Priest: and we dont' really support third party non-free software here.
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2795 [15:56:48] <High_Priest> okay, thanks somiaj
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2802 [15:58:58] <somiaj> High_Priest: replaced-url
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2804 [16:00:16] <hypermist> how can i install libboost 1.54
2805 [16:00:25] <somiaj> ,v libboost
2806 [16:00:26] <judd> No package named 'libboost' was found in amd64.
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2809 [16:00:58] <somiaj> ,v libboost1.54
2810 [16:00:59] <judd> No package named 'libboost1.54' was found in amd64.
2811 [16:00:59] <abrotman> hypermist: which veresion of Debian?
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2815 [16:01:40] <abrotman> hypermist: specifically that version? or just 1.54 or higher?
2816 [16:01:45] <somiaj> High_Priest: replaced-url
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2818 [16:01:49] <watmm> Hey i'm trying to combine two remotely executed tail commands into a single stream - cat <(ssh remote1 'tail -f foo') <(ssh remote2 'tail -f bar') - but the output is very slow and buffered, anyone know why and what i can do about it?
2819 [16:02:43] <somiaj> High_Priest: actually looks like that was for viber 6.x, it may not work for the nwer version
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2821 [16:03:30] <hypermist> abrotman, because thats the onyl version that works with the code im using
2822 [16:03:34] <hypermist> and debian 8
2823 [16:03:43] <petemc> watmm: i prefix commands with stdbuf -o0 to prevent buffering problems
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2825 [16:03:49] <abrotman> hypermist: You'd have to go from source probably, jessie already has 1.55 I think
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2828 [16:04:40] <hypermist> cr*p abrotman :|
2829 [16:05:05] <abrotman> you can say "dang it" in here ..
2830 [16:05:06] <High_Priest> somiaj, don't bother... I guess I just have to live without it
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2833 [16:05:16] <Skyrider> Why on earth would there be a password on live demo.
2834 [16:05:31] <jml2> Skyrider, cuse its cool
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2836 [16:06:01] <somiaj> Skyrider: 'sudo' should be setup to work with NOPASS and you can get root access that way ont he live images
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2847 [16:11:46] <watmm> petemc: Hrm, doesn't seem to work. stdbuf -o0 cat <(ssh machine1 ' tail -f foo') <(ssh machine2 'tail -f bar) ?
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2858 [16:16:15] <lesta> how can I manage upgrades in multiple debian workstations ? with remote ssh login?
2859 [16:16:29] <petemc> watmm: i mostly use it to take input from things like tail -f, if you dont some apps will wait until buffers fill up before printing. it probably isnt much help in your case
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2863 [16:19:16] <petn-randall> lesta: I use clusterssh to do bugfix updates on several machines. I would recommend it with a upgrade to a new release, though.
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2866 [16:20:40] <lesta> ok, good and thanks
2867 [16:20:42] <watmm> I'm just trying to get too streams in one really, in a more lightweight way than graylog/kibana
2868 [16:20:48] <watmm> *two
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2887 [16:27:14] <jml2> lesta, if you want to save bandwidth you can try to use apt-proxy
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2893 [16:30:21] <lesta> jml2: yes the bandwidth is a problem, thanks
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2900 [16:32:31] <dryblow> Why I could make two accounts with same UID?
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2903 [16:32:45] <Orangs> Hello guys. I have propably problem with IMAP. Somebody can help me through IRC chat or skype?
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2909 [16:33:49] <greycat> dryblow: it's common on commercial unix systems, especially if that UID is 0.
2910 [16:34:23] <greycat> dryblow: e.g. some people like to set up an alternate root account that has a comfortable login shel (like bash or zsh) on systems where the "real" root account has something like /bin/sh or /bin/csh and cannot safely be changed.
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2912 [16:35:20] <dryblow> greycat, oh great, I had never though that
2913 [16:35:26] <Orangs> Here is logs with 2 errors. Any solutions how to fix this issue? Here is link for logs replaced-url
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2920 [16:38:23] <dryblow> greycat, Thanks so much for explain!
2921 [16:38:33] <anexit_> Is there a program that can open a .img file (kvm-qemu) and extract data from it?
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2923 [16:39:08] <Skyrider> Is there a command to view the gpu information on the live linux without network?
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2927 [16:39:38] <petemc> Skyrider: lspci
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2929 [16:41:01] <Orangs> greycat, do you have experiences with IMAP?
2930 [16:41:14] <greycat> Not much.
2931 [16:41:46] <Skyrider> petemc :p thanks, but not exactly specific either.
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2935 [16:42:11] <Orangs> Can u look on this errors? replaced-url
2936 [16:43:16] <Skyrider> "Authentication failed"?
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2938 [16:44:43] <ChrisH> PW or User incorrect
2939 [16:45:24] <Skyrider> ^ couldn't it be that the auth type is incompatible?
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2941 [16:45:29] <Skyrider> if user/pass is correct.
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2944 [16:46:03] <JustinHitla> how to find out width and height of the window ? there should be tool like "xinfo" or something like that
2945 [16:46:57] <greycat> xwininfo
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2947 [16:47:06] <Orangs> ChrisH: propably. But when i create mailbox in webpanel, no folders are created for this mailbox :o
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2968 [16:52:41] <JustinHitla> greycat: thanks
2969 [16:52:50] <JustinHitla> greycat: do you know how to probramm in bash ?
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2971 [16:53:19] <greycat> If you're asking how to write a bash script to extract info from xwininfo, the answer would be "dear gods WHY"
2972 [16:53:36] <JustinHitla> no
2973 [16:53:45] <JustinHitla> I want to know if you know bash
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2975 [16:54:05] <JustinHitla> thats all
2976 [16:54:22] <jelly> whether greycat knows bash is not realy topic of this channel
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2978 [16:54:40] <jelly> ask your real question, if there is one
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2982 [16:56:33] <bazhang> #bash does JustinHitla
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2988 [16:59:26] <Bigsista> hi all. i'm trying to build a dsc package, that only installs the content of a source tarball without compiling anything. i'm stuck at how and where to define unpack source and install folders in debian/rules or wherever. anyone can hook me zup with an example?
2989 [16:59:27] <warsoul> the normal installation comes with a desktop enviroment?
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2992 [16:59:59] <greycat> A default Debian installation has one of the desktop tasks checked, yes.
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2994 [17:00:10] <greycat> But you can uncheck that extremely easily during the install.
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2996 [17:01:00] <warsoul> greycat i should use that or install anotherone
2997 [17:01:10] <greycat> Use whatever you want.
2998 [17:01:24] <greycat> The beauty of Debian is that there is no one single "way". You can be unique.
2999 [17:01:46] <warsoul> how do i open the desktop
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3002 [17:02:21] <greycat> Depends on what you installed. If it's something like GNOME or KDE or XFCE then you get a GUI login when the machine has finished booting. When you login, you're automatically running in that desktop.
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3004 [17:02:41] <greycat> If you use a more manual method, you can do a console login and then run 'startx'.
3005 [17:02:57] <chenx97_> make sure you have a display manager though
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3008 [17:03:26] <greycat> Most users who run a desktop environment also choose to run a display manager, but it's not absolutely required.
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3010 [17:03:44] <greycat> ("Choose" is a strong word here, by the way... most users don't know what the hell is going on and they just have this because it's a default.)
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3012 [17:04:02] <warsoul> i type startx
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3014 [17:04:10] <warsoul> nothing happen
3015 [17:04:20] <greycat> Not possible. SOMETHING has to happen, even if that's an error.
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3017 [17:04:43] <warsoul> freeze
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3019 [17:04:56] <warsoul> is not doing nothing or type nothing
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3023 [17:05:25] <greycat> Well, that's *something* for sure. Sounds like the version of X + drivers you currently have does not like your hardware.
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3026 [17:05:31] <rmrfchik> damn, pam.d won't auth with slock/xscreensaver/etc, only login can auth
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3028 [17:05:42] <chenx97> how could that be? i went to tty1 and typed startx
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3030 [17:05:56] <chenx97> then i have two GNOME running now
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3032 [17:06:11] <chenx97> because i am using another one in tty7 as default
3033 [17:06:15] <greycat> warsoul: Get back to a working console and then run "lspci -nn | grep -i vga"
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3035 [17:06:45] <warsoul> ok im restarting
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3048 [17:09:13] <warsoul> greycat: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
3049 [17:09:23] <greycat> ,pciid 8086:2a42
3050 [17:09:25] <judd> [8086:2a42] is 'Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
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3052 [17:10:05] <greycat> warsoul: If the jessie driver isn't working for this hardware, one thing you might try is installing the jessie-backports version of the xserver-xorg-video-intel package.
3053 [17:10:20] <warsoul> how can i do that
3054 [17:10:29] <chenx97> pciid 8086:0a2e
3055 [17:10:41] <greycat> Enable jessie-backports, then do apt-get install -t jessie-backports xserver-xorg-video-intel
3056 [17:10:41] <warsoul> ?
3057 [17:10:57] <watmm> petemc: FYI it was grep doing the buffering, resolved with --line-buffered
3058 [17:10:57] <chenx97> ,pciid 8086:0a2e
3059 [17:10:59] <judd> [8086:0a2e] is 'Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
3060 [17:11:00] <warsoul> how do i enable backports
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3062 [17:11:09] <greycat> !jessie-backports
3063 [17:11:10] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb replaced-url
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3066 [17:11:33] <chenx97> sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
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3068 [17:11:49] <greycat> typo in the filename, and assuming nano is not wise
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3070 [17:12:10] <chenx97> my fault
3071 [17:12:41] <chenx97> edit /etc/apt/sources.list with your preferred editor
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3077 [17:13:42] <warsoul> greycat how can i get the backports
3078 [17:13:49] <warsoul> i dont get what dpkg said
3079 [17:13:51] <greycat> Read what dpkg just said.
3080 [17:14:04] <greycat> Add that line to your sources.list and apt-get update.
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3083 [17:14:17] <petemc> watmm: good job
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3085 [17:14:21] <warsoul> pc has to be connected on internet?
3086 [17:14:24] <greycat> yes
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3098 [17:20:19] <warsoul> i did it
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3100 [17:21:11] <warsoul> E: The value 'jessie-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
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3119 [17:26:56] <jelly> warsoul: did "apt-get update" after the file edit finish successfully, without errors?
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3121 [17:27:24] <greycat> warsoul: also, which version of Debian are you actually running? cat /etc/debian_version
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3123 [17:28:26] <warsoul> jelly it failed to fetch
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3125 [17:28:51] <warsoul> greycat 8.4
3126 [17:28:59] <jelly> pastebin the complete output and the current contents of your sources.list, then
3127 [17:29:23] <warsoul> i have 2 computers
3128 [17:29:33] <warsoul> the one witb deb is just running terminal
3129 [17:30:33] <jelly> !pastebinit
3130 [17:30:33] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b replaced-url
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3134 [17:31:10] <jelly> warsoul: or copy/paste outputs to a text file, use a usb stick and upload it
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3145 [17:34:00] <baml> hi
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3149 [17:34:28] <baml> can someone please help me get past a grub filesystem not recognized error after reimaging a machine with a dd'ed debian image?
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3151 [17:35:13] <epsilon> baml: whets the actual error message?
3152 [17:35:32] <fireba11> baml: also did you try to verify it's okay with som live media?
3153 [17:35:40] <greycat> Did you somehow *not* dd the entire disk?
3154 [17:35:46] <epsilon> and grub is a bootloadet, not a filesystem
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3156 [17:36:43] <epsilon> eh, forget my last scentence
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3162 [17:38:33] <baml> fireba11: i am booting with kali linux DVD because debian thought fdisk was not a necessary tool on their install DVD...
3163 [17:38:44] <baml> im going to run fdisk to look @ partition table
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3165 [17:39:19] <fireba11> baml: they probably got parted in it because fdisk doesn#t handle GPT partitioning
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3167 [17:39:49] <greycat> The fdisk in jessie says it understands GPT. In the man page at least.
3168 [17:40:09] <baml> how else can i read partition/GPT on debian DVD?
3169 [17:40:23] <fireba11> baml: i only use netinstall anyway
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3171 [17:40:26] <greycat> God only knows. There are so many damned things now. fdisk, parted, sfdisk, ...?
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3175 [17:41:33] <baml> which tool can ii use?
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3180 [17:42:59] <greycat> None of those three are present?
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3182 [17:43:38] <fireba11> baml: you're the first guy in years that i heared of using the install DVD :-D
3183 [17:43:42] <ocZio> hi all, I have the following card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC283 Analog [ALC283 Analog] but for some reason cannot get any noise out of the headphones I am using. (Debian jessie 8.4.0)
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3185 [17:43:52] <ocZio> I had a look and the volume is up and not muted (alsamixer)
3186 [17:44:05] <baml> hmm mount says wrong fs type
3187 [17:44:06] <ocZio> is there anything else I can do to debug this ?
3188 [17:44:09] <baml> how can i detect FS type?
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3190 [17:44:21] <greycat> baml: I would verify the partition table first.
3191 [17:44:22] <warsoul> jelly can i send you pictures
3192 [17:44:25] <warsoul> by email?
3193 [17:44:38] <baml> greycat: how?
3194 [17:44:51] <greycat> Did you try fdisk, parted and sfdisk? Are they ALL missing?
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3197 [17:45:40] <greycat> Also cfdisk.
3198 [17:46:16] <warsoul> hello
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3206 [17:47:53] <baml> cfdisk says partition type 83: Linux
3207 [17:47:59] <baml> what does that mean? which FS is this?
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3209 [17:48:20] <greycat> It's just legacy crap. Don't worry about the type. Make sure the partitions are all present and seem to be the right size and relative position.
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3211 [17:48:46] <baml> yea they look OK
3212 [17:48:51] <baml> but i cannot mount
3213 [17:48:56] <awwal> How to disable X app from being started when login in X because it have an autostart file in /etc/xdg/autostart?
3214 [17:48:57] <greycat> What type of file system is it *supposed* to be?
3215 [17:48:59] <baml> i think the sdb1 is supposedto be ext4
3216 [17:49:08] <greycat> And you're using a kernel with ext4 support?
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3218 [17:49:24] <baml> what module should i load to support it?
3219 [17:49:26] <baml> im not sure
3220 [17:49:33] <baml> this is a Boot DVD
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3222 [17:49:50] <greycat> The debian installer in rescue mode should definitely support ext4.
3223 [17:50:01] <tharkun> It does.
3224 [17:50:04] <greycat> If it's nodnt a debian disk, we have no idea.
3225 [17:50:09] <tharkun> Used it earlier today.
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3229 [17:50:41] <baml> this is debain 8.2 DVD
3230 [17:50:47] <greycat> should be good enough
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3233 [17:51:16] <greycat> If it can't even detect that your partition has an ext4 file system, then it sounds like your backup is corrupted.
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3236 [17:51:23] <greycat> Or your restore process corrupted it somehow.
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3248 [17:56:06] <warsoul> how can i install kde desktop on debian8
3249 [17:56:33] <greycat> You would need a working X server (with video drivers) first.
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3252 [17:56:57] <warsoul> mines are not working?
3253 [17:57:20] <greycat> 11:04 warsoul> i type startx
3254 [17:57:21] <greycat> 11:04 warsoul> nothing happen
3255 [17:57:23] <greycat> 11:04 warsoul> freeze
3256 [17:57:25] <baml> ok im gonna extract the image again
3257 [17:57:45] <warsoul> gerycat im having problems with the backports
3258 [17:57:50] <baml> gunzip -c PATH | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
3259 [17:57:52] <warsoul> could you please help me out
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3261 [17:57:54] <baml> is that correct?
3262 [17:58:16] <greycat> Add one line to /etc/apt/sources.list (the bot said what to add), and run apt-get update.
3263 [17:58:25] <greycat> What more help do you need?
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3265 [17:58:52] <greycat> what the hell is gunzip -c
3266 [17:58:58] <warsoul> greycat im getting errors
3267 [17:59:06] <greycat> WHAT is the error?
3268 [17:59:14] <baml> print to console, but then i pipe to dd
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3270 [17:59:25] <baml> its a gz archive
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3272 [17:59:34] <Pr0metheus> i am trying to setup a vpn connection using the strongswan network-manager plugin, i click to add a new VPN connection, placed values but the Add button never becomes active, anyone has any experience with this?
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3274 [17:59:56] <greycat> 32M is a ridiculously large block size, but I guess it's not wrong
3275 [18:00:20] <warsoul> greycat: Err replaced-url
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3277 [18:00:28] <baml> i have 8GB RAm here...
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3279 [18:00:54] <warsoul> Err replaced-url
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3281 [18:01:17] <warsoul> Err replaced-url
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3283 [18:01:30] <warsoul> greycat im getting those errores when
3284 [18:01:33] <warsoul> apt-get update
3285 [18:01:54] <greycat> What the hell did you do? Did you write the sources.list file on a windows machine and then copy it over? Is the Debian machine still not connected to the Internet?
3286 [18:02:12] <warsoul> is connected
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3288 [18:02:34] <greycat> Well, maybe someone else knows what "inrelease" or "InRealease" means.
3289 [18:02:41] <LostSoul> Hello
3290 [18:03:01] <LostSoul> How to use many groups in libnss nss_base_passwd?
3291 [18:03:02] <warsoul> greycat i connected the cable from router to pc
3292 [18:03:12] <warsoul> how can i check if i have internet connection?
3293 [18:03:12] <LostSoul> When I query more than 2-3 it stops working
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3295 [18:03:18] <greycat> ping something
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3297 [18:04:21] <warsoul> network is unreachable
3298 [18:04:43] <greycat> Then I'm guessing that's what's causing apt-get update to fail.
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3303 [18:05:33] <greycat> Try "ifup eth0". Maybe you'll get lucky.
3304 [18:06:18] <awwal> warsoul, for install kde : kde-full, kde-standard, kde-plasma-desktop, kde-plasma-netbook, task-kde-desktop, check descriptions and choose
3305 [18:06:35] <warsoul> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
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3307 [18:06:39] <awwal> you may also try restarting network-manager, warsoul
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3311 [18:07:05] <warsoul> awwal how do i do that
3312 [18:07:07] <greycat> He has no X. He can't even run startx. He says his machine freezes. I'm trying to help him install the jessie-backports intel driver, but now he can't even get a simple internet connection.
3313 [18:07:08] <awwal> systemctl restart netrowk-manager.service (root)
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3316 [18:07:29] <Orangs> Hallo guys. Anybody have good experiences with postfix and dovecot? I need help with this,ASAP.
3317 [18:07:34] <greycat> !ask
3318 [18:07:34] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
3319 [18:07:52] <Orangs> !ask
3320 [18:07:53] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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3322 [18:08:06] <greycat> You're supposed to read it, not repeat it.
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3324 [18:08:19] <awwal> xD xD xD
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3326 [18:08:39] <warsoul> how do i restart network manager
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3328 [18:08:55] <awwal> warsoul, already told you
3329 [18:08:56] <greycat> do what awwal said but fix the typos he made.
3330 [18:09:12] <greycat> But I doubt you have network-manager installed.
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3333 [18:09:28] <greycat> I am far more concerned with why ifup eth0 did not work.
3334 [18:09:38] <warsoul> Failed to restart network-manager.service: Unit network-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory
3335 [18:09:52] <warsoul> greycat
3336 [18:09:55] <greycat> what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces
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3338 [18:10:44] <awwal> warsoul, are you trying to update/install pkgs/restart network-manager as root or as regular user?
3339 [18:10:57] <warsoul> no
3340 [18:10:57] <greycat> awwal: which part of "No such file or directory" was unclear
3341 [18:11:01] <Orangs> I m running Debian 8 and I have problem with panel "sentora". Every module (domain,ftp,..) working very well, but Mailboxes doesnt work. I have some error logs, but i cant still fix this issue. Can i post a link, where I describing my problem?
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3343 [18:11:08] <warsoul> im root
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3345 [18:11:27] <awwal> greycat, he may get that if running the command as regular user
3346 [18:11:38] <greycat> I would expect him to get permission denied.
3347 [18:12:07] <warsoul> what can i do guys
3348 [18:12:07] <greycat> Anyway, if he doesn't have a display manager installed (AND THANK GOD because it would probably freeze his machine at boot), then he probably doesn't have network-manager either.
3349 [18:12:15] <greycat> warsoul: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces
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3351 [18:13:20] <warsoul> greycat source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
3352 [18:13:31] <greycat> oh fucking HELL, what
3353 [18:13:36] <warsoul> #The loopback network interface
3354 [18:13:37] <warsoul> auto lo
3355 [18:13:41] <warsoul> iface lo inet loopback
3356 [18:13:46] <greycat> Oh. There's more. You're just pasting slowly.
3357 [18:13:50] <warsoul> thats it
3358 [18:13:54] <greycat> Nothing about eth0?
3359 [18:13:57] <warsoul> no
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3362 [18:14:12] <greycat> Add these two lines: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
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3364 [18:14:17] <greycat> Then try ifup eth0
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3369 [18:15:54] <warsoul> greycat is DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to IP port 67 interval *
3370 [18:16:05] <greycat> That's better...
3371 [18:16:31] <greycat> It may take several seconds for your router's DHCP service to complete.
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3373 [18:16:48] <warsoul> No DHCPOFFERS received.
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3375 [18:17:07] <warsoul> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
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3377 [18:17:15] <greycat> Does your router not do DHCP at all? You said you had another computer...? Does that one use DHCP?
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3379 [18:17:23] <warsoul> grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory
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3381 [18:17:34] <warsoul> im connected
3382 [18:17:38] <warsoul> but wifi
3383 [18:17:50] <warsoul> i connect the one with debian with a ethernet cable
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3387 [18:18:24] <Orangs> Someone here have experiences with Postfix and Dovecot?
3388 [18:18:31] <greycat> *plonk*
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3390 [18:18:51] <warsoul> greycat what should i do now
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3393 [18:19:20] <greycat> Find out how to configure your router to do DHCP over the ethernet interfaces, or figure out how to statically configure your Debian networking to talk to that router.
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3400 [18:21:24] <warsoul> greycat
3401 [18:21:29] <warsoul> allows dhcp
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3404 [18:22:03] <warsoul> i have beggining and ending address
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3406 [18:22:10] <warsoul> and dhcp lease time
3407 [18:22:23] <greycat> Then try "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0".
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3411 [18:23:57] <warsoul> greycat the lease time is set to 1 weeks
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3413 [18:24:12] <greycat> Can you ping ftp.us.debian.org now?
3414 [18:24:37] <warsoul> no
3415 [18:24:43] <warsoul> it came out with the same error
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3417 [18:24:49] <warsoul> after dhcpdiscover
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3419 [18:24:58] <warsoul> should i change the lease time?
3420 [18:25:07] <greycat> The lease time is not an issue.
3421 [18:25:10] <warsoul> ok
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3423 [18:25:19] <greycat> *not working at all* is the issue
3424 [18:25:34] <warsoul> yes
3425 [18:25:47] <warsoul> i dont know if the cable is not working
3426 [18:25:51] <warsoul> should be is a new one
3427 [18:26:05] <warsoul> and the router is new also
3428 [18:26:14] <warsoul> was installed yesterday
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3436 [18:29:21] <warsoul> greycat is there anyway to connect to wifi
3437 [18:29:28] <warsoul> in terminal
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3445 [18:32:01] <abrotman> yes
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3458 [18:35:32] <warsoul> abrotman how
3459 [18:35:47] <abrotman> nm-cli
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3462 [18:37:29] <deez> Can someone help me with this SSH related question? replaced-url
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3464 [18:38:03] <warsoul> abrotman was that?
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3470 [18:40:55] <NeilHanlon> hey guys! I just went to do a dist-upgrade on my desktop here and it wants to remove gnome :
3471 [18:41:00] <NeilHanlon> :( any thoughts on why?
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3473 [18:41:25] <NeilHanlon> debian 8.1
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3475 [18:41:42] <warsoul> how do i connect wifi in terminal
3476 [18:41:51] <jml2> warsoul, nmcli
3477 [18:42:16] <ChrisH> deez: From my understanding that gatewayPort is only needed it you want to open your local Port 8080 into the example.com network
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3480 [18:42:49] <deez> ChrisH: Isn't that what I'm trying to do?
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3483 [18:43:22] <deez> I want to be able to access a server that is only accessible by localhost:8080 on my laptop, if I wasn't clear about that.
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3489 [18:44:22] <jml2> deez, all servers can be setup to localhost
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3493 [18:45:38] <deez> Ok, so what am I doing wrong? Or, better question, how can I accomplish what I desire?
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3495 [18:46:16] <warsoul> jml2 nmcli command not found
3496 [18:46:25] <jml2> deez, you might need to edit /etc/hosts , and make sure you have 127.0.0.1 for localhost
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3499 [18:46:46] <deez> On the local machine, correct?
3500 [18:46:48] <jml2> warsoul, did you use the gui to setup the wifi?
3501 [18:46:53] <Omilun> hello i have debian 8 with i3wm ... i have a problem to laptop sound . i had alsa but i has too much problems and i removed it and i installed again . now i my laptop dont have any sounds . my laptop is thinkpad t430s .
3502 [18:47:05] <warsoul> jml2 havent done nothing
3503 [18:47:12] <jml2> deez, where else? you can't access localhost over a network wire.
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3505 [18:47:12] <warsoul> just finish installing debian on pc
3506 [18:47:36] <jml2> warsoul, if you haven't done nothing, means you have done something
3507 [18:47:43] <jml2> :)
3508 [18:47:44] <deez> But that's what I want to do, using SSH, lol!
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3511 [18:47:53] <warsoul> jml2
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3513 [18:47:56] <JustinHitla> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 125424 Feb 29 2008 su
3514 [18:47:56] <warsoul> what can i do
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3517 [18:48:05] <JustinHitla> what does "s" means in that ls output ?
3518 [18:48:11] <warsoul> i need connect to be able install some drives then desktop
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3520 [18:48:14] <NeilHanlon> JustinHitla: sticky bit
3521 [18:48:20] <jml2> JustinHitla, man intro
3522 [18:48:31] <jelly> JustinHitla: which s?
3523 [18:48:35] <JustinHitla> that mean doesn't matter whoever run that "su" it will run with root priveleges ?
3524 [18:48:45] <abrotman> warsoul: nm-cli, not nmcli
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3526 [18:48:50] <Omilun> hello i have debian 8 with i3wm ... i have a problem to laptop sound . i had alsa but i has too much problems and i removed it and i installed again . now i my laptop dont have any sounds . my laptop is thinkpad t430s
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3528 [18:48:58] <deez> jml2: Did you read my pastebin link?
3529 [18:48:59] <abrotman> judd: file nm-cli
3530 [18:49:08] <deez> Of course I can access localhost from my machine.
3531 [18:49:14] <jml2> abrotman, i assumed he had gui to setup the wifi, he didn't even do this, so there's no existing profiles
3532 [18:49:24] <abrotman> Right .. not surprised
3533 [18:49:24] <jelly> JustinHitla: there are three 's' characters in there, each denotes a different thing. The first one roughly does what you think it does.
3534 [18:49:26] <judd> No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file.
3535 [18:49:30] <JustinHitla> anyone ?
3536 [18:49:33] <ChrisH> deez: you want to connect from you Lapyop onto server.example.com via ssh. and then only from server.example.com back to laptop:8080 or from any host in example.com back to laptop:8080?
3537 [18:49:42] <warsoul> jmls ifconfig -a there is no wlan0
3538 [18:49:46] <jml2> (btw command nmcli -- not sure what is nm-cli)
3539 [18:49:52] <abrotman> sorry, it is nmcli
3540 [18:50:14] <JustinHitla> really
3541 [18:50:15] <deez> ChrisH: Yes, there is only one server on that domain.
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3543 [18:50:55] <deez> I want to run the server on local machine (localhost:8080) - connect to example.com via ssh - and be able to access server on local machine localhost:8080
3544 [18:50:56] <warsoul> jml2
3545 [18:50:58] <warsoul> what can i do
3546 [18:51:15] <deez> warsoul: write a wpa-supplicant.conf
3547 [18:51:33] <jelly> JustinHitla: read /msg dpkg permissions
3548 [18:51:41] <jml2> deez, i see no pastelink
3549 [18:51:52] <deez> jml2: replaced-url
3550 [18:51:56] <ChrisH> deez: given that you do not need GatewayPorts true
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3554 [18:52:38] <warsoul> deez after i write it what do i do
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3556 [18:52:44] <deez> ChrisH: It wouldnt work before i added it, either, so I tried when I came across the tidbit:P
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3559 [18:53:12] <deez> warsoul: something like wpa-supplicant -Bi wlan0 -c wpa-supplicant.conf
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3561 [18:53:45] <JustinHitla> is it so complicated to answer yes or no ?
3562 [18:54:29] <jelly> yes
3563 [18:54:57] <jelly> JustinHitla: what is your native language?
3564 [18:55:22] <jml2> deez, if you're doing that, then you're talking about 3 computers
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3567 [18:55:46] <warsoul> deez after i write it what do i do
3568 [18:55:55] <chachasmooth> i stumbled across "gbp buildpackage -S", what does the "-S" stand for?
3569 [18:56:09] <greycat> read the man page
3570 [18:56:20] <deez> warsoul i already said: wpa-supplicant -Bi wlan0 -c wpa-supplicant.conf
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3572 [18:56:35] <deez> do i?
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3575 [18:57:01] <ChrisH> deez: I prefer writing these commands into ~/.ssh/config ; and I might need to change my word about gatewayports
3576 [18:57:18] <deez> jml2: I thought the pastebin was rather straight forward
3577 [18:57:21] <deez> ChrisH: ?
3578 [18:57:49] <chachasmooth> greycat man page doesn't mention -S
3579 [18:57:49] <Devastator> good afternoon, yesterday I started installing Debian 8.4 on a computer to learn to use KVM, I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage
3580 [18:57:49] <Devastator> pool?
3581 [18:57:59] <warsoul> deez what do i do in *.conf
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3583 [18:58:02] <warsoul> blank?
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3585 [18:58:06] <deez> lol
3586 [18:58:09] <deez> hold on
3587 [18:58:16] <deez> i dont remember the syntax exactly
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3589 [18:59:01] <warsoul> wpa-supplicant command not found
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3591 [18:59:22] <Devastator> it seems that both #kvm and #qemu are kind of quiet.. I don't know if it's their preferable way of getting help anyway..
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3601 [19:02:07] <deez> warsoul: try wpa_supplicant
3602 [19:02:09] <deez> also
3603 [19:02:21] <deez> a very basic conf - replaced-url
3604 [19:02:31] <ChrisH> deez: No need to set 'GatewayPorts yes' Tested it here and ssh -vR 12325:localhost:25 remote-server opens local smtp port as 12325 on remote-server, accessible for 127.0.0.1:12325 only
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3608 [19:03:09] <deez> ChrisH: Thank you for doing all that to help me. I will try that.
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3610 [19:03:55] <greycat> GatewayPorts for a reverse tunnel allows other machines to connect to it (i.e. the tunnel will listen on * instead of listening only on loopback)
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3615 [19:04:40] <jml2> deez, if you dont set it up properly, it's a public connection to the internet
3616 [19:05:21] <jml2> deez, i suppose port 13000 is defaulting to 'localhost' on example.org
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3626 [19:06:21] <deez> Damn, it still doesn't work how I expected it to.
3627 [19:06:24] * NeilHanlon is about to upgrade to the latest kernel from jessie-backports
3628 [19:06:26] * NeilHanlon is scared
3629 [19:06:46] <warsoul> graycat could i download the files to a cd
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3631 [19:06:55] <warsoul> and install it ?
3632 [19:07:00] <lok> ow to check any communication protocol ; what should be the test set up minimum?
3633 [19:07:03] <deez> warsoul: did it work?
3634 [19:07:04] <lok> *how
3635 [19:07:30] <jml2> deez, if you're trying a "bindaddress" for the remote, then you need to specify it, otherwise it defaults to 'localhost' on example.org
3636 [19:07:37] <jml2> deez, (-R )
3637 [19:07:44] <warsoul> deez wpa_supplicant command not found
3638 [19:07:51] <greycat> lok: you have to be rather more specific about what you are testing
3639 [19:08:00] <jml2> deez, that could be dangerous if you're not careful, it'd be available for all public
3640 [19:08:23] <deez> warsoul: are you root?
3641 [19:08:24] <deez> lol
3642 [19:08:26] <lok> greycat: i would like to try now modbus protocol
3643 [19:08:34] <warsoul> deez yes
3644 [19:08:39] <ChrisH> NeilHanlon: If the new kernel does not boot or work properly, just boot the old one. That is the upgrade with minimal risk.
3645 [19:08:42] <deez> jml2: It won't even work for me, lol.
3646 [19:08:44] <greycat> !modbus
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3648 [19:08:52] <greycat> No, sorry, I don't know either.
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3650 [19:09:16] <lok> ok
3651 [19:09:17] <JustinHitla> greycat: you that bash guru guy ?
3652 [19:09:32] <deez> warsoul: That's strange, every base system install I've done comes with wpa_supplicant.
3653 [19:09:48] <greycat> JustinHitla: you're one more irrelevant personal question away from /ignore
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3655 [19:10:00] <lok> why one protocol is used over another?
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3657 [19:10:05] <lok> have you heard bluetooth over ethernet kind of terms?
3658 [19:10:09] <jml2> JustinHitla, did you check that manpage, it's pretty good
3659 [19:10:12] <jml2> JustinHitla, for start
3660 [19:10:36] <greycat> Ethernet is a physical network using wires.
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3663 [19:10:54] <warsoul> greycat what could be the problem
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3665 [19:10:58] * jml2 uses redtooth
3666 [19:10:58] <warsoul> my ethernet is not working?
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3669 [19:11:28] <lok> so what ? greycat
3670 [19:11:36] <lok> can you elaborate?
3671 [19:11:41] <greycat> And bluetooth is not. So you cannot compare the two.
3672 [19:11:58] <MaBunny> Hey...im srry for directly naming you but themill wht did you said b4 can you repeat tht again???
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3678 [19:12:53] <MaBunny> Srry for bad english
3679 [19:13:03] <sbine> MaBunny: Retry that!
3680 [19:13:07] <sbine> !ifrp
3681 [19:13:07] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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3683 [19:13:19] <MaBunny> Ok
3684 [19:13:34] <lok> how to establish bluetooth over ethernet? is it making sense?
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3686 [19:13:40] <greycat> No.
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3689 [19:14:03] <jml2> lok, i heard redtooth can work over the ethernet
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3692 [19:14:29] <jml2> lok, there's a special way to make bluetooth to behave like redtooth
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3705 [19:17:47] <deez> Unfortunately, I can't get it working. Thank you for all of your help, ChrisH, jml2.
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3710 [19:18:02] <warsoul> help!
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3713 [19:18:24] <TomTomTosch> !tell warsoul about ask
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3715 [19:18:46] <greycat> TomTomTosch: good luck with this one.
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3717 [19:18:57] <warsoul> could someone help me out connect wifi in terminal
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3725 [19:19:24] <abrotman> warsoul: you were told the command to use
3726 [19:19:32] <warsoul> abrotman is not working
3727 [19:19:35] <warsoul> command not found
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3729 [19:20:00] <abrotman> warsoul: then install it
3730 [19:20:08] <abrotman> not rocket science .. that's how linux works
3731 [19:20:21] <greycat> He's got no working X, no working ethernet/DHCP, and no working wireless.
3732 [19:20:30] <abrotman> Rube?
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3734 [19:20:38] <greycat> Long ago I started to suspect this is an elaborate social experiment/troll.
3735 [19:20:42] <abrotman> Get installation media that has the packages you need
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3737 [19:20:55] <jml2> greycat, social experiment, that's interesting..
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3740 [19:21:20] <MaBunny> Sbine tht didnt work
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3742 [19:21:42] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: what didn't work?
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3744 [19:21:59] <TomTomTosch> this is like 5th grade. answer the W-questions please.
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3746 [19:22:12] <jml2> warsoul, replaced-url
3747 [19:22:13] <jml2> :)
3748 [19:22:16] <LostSoul> Hi
3749 [19:22:18] <styks1987> how do you auto remount a directory mounted by $ mount src dest
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3751 [19:22:22] <jml2> LostSoul, hi!
3752 [19:22:25] <abrotman> jml2: no need to troll him ..
3753 [19:22:35] <styks1987> on restart
3754 [19:22:36] <MaBunny> It made me into the same situation again ....fsck didnt work....disk only writable
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3758 [19:22:49] <MaBunny> Same black screen
3759 [19:22:53] <jml2> abrotman, still its a cute monkey
3760 [19:22:55] <greycat> styks1987: you mean at boot time? Add a line in /etc/fstab
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3762 [19:23:03] <warsoul> thanks jml2
3763 [19:23:09] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: did you try a clean install again and change something in the mount options?
3764 [19:23:17] <MaBunny> No
3765 [19:23:17] <styks1987> greycat: thanks
3766 [19:23:32] <MaBunny> I did nothing to the root files
3767 [19:24:01] <LostSoul> Is there chance to do sub search in nss_base_passwd ?
3768 [19:24:08] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: so you were able to boot into the shell?
3769 [19:24:27] <MaBunny> Yes...but it doesnt work
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3771 [19:24:41] <LostSoul> Like when I want to check if user is memberof=XXX or member of subgroups of that group?
3772 [19:24:50] <MaBunny> It takes me to the step b4 the login screen option
3773 [19:25:09] <MaBunny> The tty1 loading option
3774 [19:25:12] <styks1987> greycat: any way to test that without restarting?
3775 [19:25:16] <MaBunny> Idk
3776 [19:25:27] <greycat> styks1987: mount /dest
3777 [19:25:31] <greycat> or mount -a
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3781 [19:26:13] <MaBunny> I went to the busybox site...there it has a similar thing tht im facing now
3782 [19:26:34] <MaBunny> And i did wht it says to do but
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3784 [19:27:24] <MaBunny> Im also having another trouble...my disk is only readable by some darn thing/way....idk
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3786 [19:28:39] <MaBunny> TomTomTosch can you say a command to chnge disks permissions...i mean making it writable
3787 [19:29:15] <warsoul> so no one is able to help me fix the problem?
3788 [19:29:19] <jhutchins> !doesn't work
3789 [19:29:20] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
3790 [19:29:28] <jml2> MaBunny, cant
3791 [19:29:44] <greycat> warsoul: abrotman gave you the next step in the progression: manually download a shitload of .deb files to removable media and physically carry them over.
3792 [19:29:44] <jml2> MaBunny, you use mkdir somedir, and set the chmod/chown on it for a user
3793 [19:29:53] <styks1987> greycat: super, however when I do the mount manually, the SOURCE looks like this /dev/sda[/some/directory] and that doesn’t work in the fstab. Do you know how that translates into that file?
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3795 [19:30:07] <jml2> MaBunny, ext2/3/4 the same, the root folder of the filesystem is not rw for users
3796 [19:30:15] <greycat> styks1987: what? What is the REAL, ACTUAL thing you are typing?
3797 [19:30:23] <jhutchins> styks1987: You might want to read the "mount" manpage.
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3799 [19:30:42] <MaBunny> Well i want to make /dev/sda1 writable again
3800 [19:30:43] <warsoul> greycat ok what should i download for the video
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3802 [19:31:11] <MaBunny> It says tht partition is only readable n its the root partition
3803 [19:31:13] <styks1987> greycat: mount --bind /dest/dir /src/dir
3804 [19:31:16] <greycat> warsoul: the xserver-xorg-video-intel package from the jessie-backports location
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3806 [19:31:26] <greycat> styks1987: I cannot help you with bind mounts.
3807 [19:31:27] <warsoul> ok
3808 [19:32:00] <jhutchins> styks1987: I would suggest booting to a live CD and doing fsck with the partition not mounted.
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3810 [19:32:14] <MaBunny> I mean...chmod works on files,does it work on partitions???
3811 [19:32:20] <jhutchins> CD|ISO/flash
3812 [19:32:28] <jml2> MaBunny, "man intro"
3813 [19:32:37] <jhutchins> MaBunny: Not really.
3814 [19:32:48] <styks1987> jhutchins: this is for a jailed sftp account on a server. the files they need access to are outside their home directory
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3818 [19:33:08] <greycat> warsoul: also, keep in mind THIS IS ALL JUST A SHOT IN THE DARK and I have no idea why your machine is actually freezing up.
3819 [19:33:13] <LostSoul> Any ideas?
3820 [19:33:25] <greycat> warsoul: the jessie-backports driver MIGHT or MIGHT NOT make any difference.
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3822 [19:33:37] <greycat> It was supposed to be a quick, easy thing to try.
3823 [19:33:39] <jelly> styks1987: mind you, mount --bind is not ln, the syntax is source first then destination mount point after
3824 [19:33:51] <greycat> It was not supposed to lead to three hours of agony because your machine is un-networked.
3825 [19:33:53] <MaBunny> Wait...i had explained this on #linux but i dont hav /usr/man in my root filesystem...i mean typing man says tht its not available
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3827 [19:34:23] <jhutchins> styks1987: You don't mount directories, you mount devices (partitions).
3828 [19:34:35] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: you did this? 'mount -o remount,ro /'
3829 [19:34:44] <MaBunny> No but wait
3830 [19:34:49] <jelly> there's more!
3831 [19:34:57] <fuzzy-logic> lol
3832 [19:35:00] <greycat> operators are standing by
3833 [19:35:03] <jhutchins> styks1987: Files outside of /home/<user> are often managed using group permissions and membership.
3834 [19:35:04] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: because this will mount your filesystem read only :3
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3837 [19:35:14] <warsoul> graycat i cant find xserver-xorg-video-intel package
3838 [19:35:15] <MaBunny> Haha
3839 [19:35:34] <MaBunny> I tried mount -o remount,rw /
3840 [19:35:37] <MaBunny> B4
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3843 [19:36:06] <MaBunny> But i did wht you said now :3
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3845 [19:36:34] <jhutchins> ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel
3846 [19:36:35] <judd> Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1; sid: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1
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3848 [19:36:44] <prussian> why are you mounting root only?
3849 [19:36:50] <prussian> something wrong?
3850 [19:36:54] <jml2> MaBunny, if the / mountpoint is "read-only" you should do an e2fsck on it when it sets it to read-only, then do a remount rw
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3855 [19:37:18] <MaBunny> Well can you say the command pls
3856 [19:37:31] <MaBunny> I seriously dont hav man
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3859 [19:37:52] <jhutchins> MaBunny: You can find man pages on the internet.
3860 [19:38:07] <MaBunny> Ok thn
3861 [19:38:23] <MaBunny> Ill try :-)
3862 [19:38:29] <TomTomTosch> you find man in /usr/bin/man you don't have the path set.
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3864 [19:38:57] <sbine> jhutchins: He's on a phone, that doesn't help him much
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3866 [19:39:18] <MaBunny> No i can find thm on internet more easily ;)
3867 [19:39:24] <fuzzy-logic> MaBunny: please, just do as jml2 told you ^^.
3868 [19:39:40] <MaBunny> Yes...ok im off on my search
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3872 [19:40:40] <jhutchins> MaBunny: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: replaced-url
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3874 [19:41:12] <joe__> !ssb
3875 [19:41:12] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
3876 [19:41:17] <MaBunny> Ok thnx jhutchins
3877 [19:41:20] <MaBunny> :)
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3881 [19:41:52] <jhutchins> MaBunny: It's pretty broad, but it gives good in-depth info on various aspects of managing the system.
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3884 [19:42:41] <MaBunny> Ok...either tht or google i guess...but thnx :-)
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3897 [19:47:08] <Akuw> what applications are there to access server using webdav protocol?
3898 [19:47:28] <jml2> Akuw, i think cadaver is one, it can be used for testing
3899 [19:47:30] <greycat> Web browsers, usually.
3900 [19:48:04] <iamwhoiam> hello people. I am checking certain technical details of package managers of different distros. The details are mainly: which algorithms are used, heuristics, methods (like sat solving by suse), properties (soundness/completeness) etc. I checked the documentation for apt (should I say dpkg?) and I found a "paper" from 2006 stating that debian (and debian-based distros I suppose) use a best-first search approach with a problem-specific
3901 [19:48:04] <iamwhoiam> heuristic, which leads to fast solutions but it is not complete (and perhaps not sound in certain cases either?). Has package management changed since then? Am I missing some development or misunderstood some property? Thanks.
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3903 [19:48:32] <Akuw> what about filezilla? don't support webdav?
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3905 [19:48:59] <greycat> I don't know. You can try.
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3907 [19:49:22] <MaBunny> Jhutchins one question....the manuel says tht sysvinit is a type of init...
3908 [19:49:49] <MaBunny> But here in my system its written initramfs
3909 [19:49:50] <warsoul> graycat replaced-url
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3911 [19:49:55] <warsoul> what package should i download
3912 [19:50:00] <greycat> NOT SID
3913 [19:50:09] <greycat> !pool
3914 [19:50:09] <dpkg> [pool] replaced-url
3915 [19:50:19] <MaBunny> Are both for the same purpose???
3916 [19:50:38] <greycat> Go to the mirror of your choice, go to the pool, find the package version that jessie-backports would have used, NOT SID, NOT STRETCH, NOT UNSTABLE, NOT TESTING.
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3918 [19:51:03] <bezaban> iamwhoiam: are you writing a paper? I'd like to see that. I'm afraid I have no information, but it sounds like it might be a better question for a mailing list :)
3919 [19:51:12] <greycat> ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel
3920 [19:51:12] <judd> Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1; sid: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1
3921 [19:51:17] <greycat> You want version 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1
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3929 [19:53:13] <warsoul> replaced-url
3930 [19:53:14] <warsoul> here?
3931 [19:53:22] <greycat> Stop going to packages.debian.org.
3932 [19:53:28] <greycat> Go to the mirror site directly.
3933 [19:53:38] <warsoul> ftp.debian.org?
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3935 [19:53:55] <greycat> I don't know if that is a valid mirror site.
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3938 [19:54:17] <warsoul> where can i find the mirror site
3939 [19:54:22] <greycat> !mirrors
3940 [19:54:22] <dpkg> Debian mirror sites are listed at replaced-url
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3942 [19:54:34] <greycat> THIS IS WHY WE DON'T DO IT THIS WAY
3943 [19:54:44] <iamwhoiam> bezaban: well, yes. :)
3944 [19:54:45] <Akuw> there is some gui app to webdav ?
3945 [19:55:11] <greycat> Akuw: last one I ever attempted to use was called Mozilla.
3946 [19:55:13] <iamwhoiam> bezaban: mainly, the idea is that sometimes it is better to pay a computational cost but quarantee a stable system
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3952 [19:56:11] <warsoul> replaced-url
3953 [19:56:19] <greycat> Right, that's a mirror.
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3955 [19:56:42] <teraflops> Akuw: whats wrong with cadaver or just curl? that said you can use any file browser with dav capabilities, like nautilus or caja
3956 [19:56:48] <iamwhoiam> bezaban: but in order to compare either I must talk to the developers or check the code. In general, I prefer leaving the code as the last option - especially since the debian package manager is only one out of 3-4-5 package managers to be checked in terms of properties.
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3958 [19:57:01] <Akuw> firefox?
3959 [19:57:04] <warsoul> greycat but i cant find it
3960 [19:57:14] <greycat> You didn't try long enough.
3961 [19:57:15] <Skyrider> Does the installer of debian have a minimal version?
3962 [19:57:21] <Akuw> i did connect but how to see file permission with cadaver?
3963 [19:57:27] <Skyrider> If you by any chance, got a iso with a live demo on it.
3964 [19:57:28] <greycat> Skyrider: sure, just uncheck everything in the final screen (tasksel)
3965 [19:57:29] <warsoul> version 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1
3966 [19:57:33] <warsoul> looking everywhere
3967 [19:57:37] <greycat> In the pool.
3968 [19:57:37] <Skyrider> Sweet, thanks. Saves me time.
3969 [19:57:41] <lesta> Akuw: try davfs2, very handy but read the manual first or google how to connect
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3971 [19:58:04] <teraflops> Akuw: you want to know the permissions? did you set up the dav thing?
3972 [19:58:18] <warsoul> long libraries
3973 [19:58:18] <greycat> If i wanted to know the permissions I would ssh to the web server.
3974 [19:58:26] <Akuw> the file permissions on server where i am connecting to
3975 [19:58:28] <teraflops> heh yeah ls -la :P
3976 [19:58:33] <Akuw> using ls
3977 [19:58:50] <Akuw> 404 Not Found
3978 [19:58:56] <Akuw> i can do only ls
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3980 [19:59:02] <Akuw> can't use ls -la
3981 [19:59:07] <greycat> what the FUCK are you talking about
3982 [19:59:11] <teraflops> Akuw: again, did you setup the sac thing?
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3984 [19:59:17] <teraflops> dav*
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3986 [19:59:29] <bezaban> iamwhoiam: yeah, I understand. Very interesting indeed. Still I'd try the mailing lists, since you really need to hit the right people. There are also good debian channels on irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org
3987 [19:59:36] <greycat> Are you not ssh'ed to the server? Are you accessing it through an SFTP client or some such nonsense?
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3989 [20:00:10] <bezaban> iamwhoiam: latter is an alias for the first
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3992 [20:00:29] <Akuw> Listing collection `/': succeeded.
3993 [20:00:35] <Akuw> when do ls
3994 [20:00:43] <greycat> IN WHAT SHELL
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3996 [20:01:01] <greycat> How are you connecting to the web server?
3997 [20:01:11] <Akuw> yes
3998 [20:01:17] <markybob> jesus
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4000 [20:01:20] * bezaban blinks
4001 [20:01:21] <Akuw> i am listing server content
4002 [20:01:30] <teraflops> Akuw: I assume you didn't setup the dav yourself and youre only a user. are yoy trying to troubleshoot an issue?
4003 [20:01:37] <teraflops> you*
4004 [20:01:48] <Akuw> i just need to upload site files
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4006 [20:01:57] <Akuw> i am not the administrator of that server
4007 [20:01:58] <teraflops> and you cant?
4008 [20:02:00] <greycat> What is a "site file"?
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4010 [20:02:14] <Akuw> but i need to check file permission
4011 [20:02:17] <greycat> What did the administrator say when you reported the problem?
4012 [20:02:55] <teraflops> so you cant? this is not up to you. go tell the admin you cannot upload files :P
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4014 [20:03:16] <Akuw> well they want i use Bitkinex
4015 [20:03:30] <Akuw> i check web page but only for mac and win
4016 [20:04:04] <teraflops> i have no idea what are you talking about right now
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4018 [20:04:17] <greycat> I think that's the name of some Windows program that they told him to use.
4019 [20:04:34] <teraflops> well dav is dav ...
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4023 [20:05:29] <Akuw> is an application man
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4026 [20:05:44] <warsoul> xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.99.917-2~bpo8+1_amd6
4027 [20:05:51] <Devastator> jelly do you happen to use KVM? :)
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4029 [20:05:55] <warsoul> that one greycat?
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4032 [20:06:02] <teraflops> Akuw: that's fine, but this is a debian linux support channel
4033 [20:06:11] <Akuw> yes i know
4034 [20:06:26] <Akuw> for that reason i asked about software for linux
4035 [20:06:39] <greycat> warsoul: looks promising, assuming you have an amd64 installation
4036 [20:07:16] <warsoul> or this
4037 [20:07:21] <teraflops> yeah cadaver, curl, file browser with dav support, davfs2 ...
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4039 [20:07:22] <warsoul> xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.99.917-2~bpo8+1.dsc
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4042 [20:08:01] <warsoul> i installed debian amd64
4043 [20:08:24] <teraflops> Akuw: I missed the error youre getting though, you just asked for listing permission, this is not something you can change from the client side
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4045 [20:08:36] <Akuw> ok
4046 [20:08:39] <Akuw> now i know
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4049 [20:08:50] <Akuw> i have to install some gui shit then
4050 [20:08:54] <teraflops> why
4051 [20:09:02] <markybob> you have to call your admin
4052 [20:09:32] <teraflops> Akuw: anyway this is frustrating so I'm bailing on this one
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4054 [20:09:36] <iamwhoiam> bezaban: thanks for your help!
4055 [20:09:52] <Akuw> anyway thanks
4056 [20:09:56] <teraflops> np
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4058 [20:10:03] <Akuw> i really like to use ssh
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4061 [20:10:12] <Akuw> or filezilla
4062 [20:10:19] <BinBasher> ,v postgresql
4063 [20:10:20] <judd> Package: postgresql on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 8.4.20-0squeeze1; squeeze: 8.4.21-0squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 8.4.22lts6-0+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 9.1+134wheezy4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 9.1+134wheezy4; wheezy-backports: 9.4+165+deb8u1~bpo7+1; jessie: 9.4+165+deb8u1; stretch: 9.5+173; sid: 9.5+173
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4065 [20:10:43] <bezaban> iamwhoiam: good luck! :)
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4067 [20:11:20] <jelly> Devastator: not really
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4069 [20:12:52] <warsoul> greycat now i have it on a cd
4070 [20:13:01] <warsoul> whats the line i have to put in sources
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4072 [20:13:08] <greycat> I hope it's a rewritable.
4073 [20:13:19] <warsoul> yes it is
4074 [20:13:25] <greycat> For a single package, you don't use sources.list. Just mount the cd and use dpkg -i on the package file.
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4077 [20:13:55] <greycat> If it depends on X stuff that isn't installed at all, this is going to get WAY more painful.
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4079 [20:14:56] <warsoul> greycat cd is mount
4080 [20:15:06] <warsoul> now dpkg -i
4081 [20:15:07] <warsoul> ?
4082 [20:15:25] <Devastator> jelly I've been asking here, in #kvm and in #qemu and got no answer, as you are more experienced than me, would you recommend me to use a mailing list instead?
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4084 [20:16:14] <jelly> Devastator: you're asking the wrong person about kvm
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4086 [20:16:31] <warsoul> greycat now how do i install what i have on the cd
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4088 [20:16:46] <greycat> I already said what to do. You already confirmed that you read it.
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4092 [20:17:17] <warsoul> For a single package, you don't use sources.list. Just mount the cd and use dpkg -i on the package file.
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4096 [20:18:20] <Devastator> jelly yeah, too bad.. you are always helpful when you know about the issue :(
4097 [20:18:37] <warsoul> when i type dpkg -i it says
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4099 [20:18:58] <warsoul> dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
4100 [20:18:58] <dpkg> warsoul: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
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4102 [20:19:57] <jelly> !ask
4103 [20:19:57] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
4104 [20:19:59] <greycat> If you can't even figure out what "use dpkg -i on the package file" means, ....
4105 [20:20:07] <jelly> > Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask.
4106 [20:20:26] <warsoul> jelly could you help me out
4107 [20:20:30] <jelly> sigh
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4110 [20:20:40] <warsoul> to install what i have on the cd
4111 [20:20:55] <greycat> -i wants a filename argument. dpkg -i filename
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4119 [20:22:30] <warsoul> greycat no such file or directory
4120 [20:22:36] <warsoul> should i cd on cdrom?
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4126 [20:23:29] <greycat> I'm done. This is enough. He's trolling or he's unhelpable.
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4128 [20:23:56] <jelly> $5 says it's the latter
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4130 [20:24:08] <greycat> If he's trolling he's *VERY* good at it.
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4132 [20:24:27] <greycat> Sadly, such people exist.
4133 [20:24:49] <warsoul> greycat where you born knowing everything?
4134 [20:24:50] <iwhb4u> I don't know my administrator account username
4135 [20:25:04] <iwhb4u> i've just installed it and it asked me to provide a password
4136 [20:25:11] <jmcnaught> Devastator: hey. are you using virt-manager?
4137 [20:25:17] <jelly> iwhb4u: just installed what?
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4139 [20:25:25] <iwhb4u> i did, the thing is i didn't provided me a username
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4141 [20:25:33] <iwhb4u> it's debian 4
4142 [20:25:41] <jelly> 4??
4143 [20:25:44] <iwhb4u> yes
4144 [20:25:52] <jelly> where did you find that
4145 [20:26:03] <iwhb4u> in my locker
4146 [20:26:10] <greycat> You're installing Debian 4, why? And you're installing Debian 4 without knowing how the superuser account works, why?
4147 [20:26:17] <iwhb4u> inside my locker from 6 years ago
4148 [20:26:26] <jelly> iwhb4u: can I ask what is the purpose of this exercise
4149 [20:26:30] <iwhb4u> my computer is not the newest
4150 [20:26:31] <Omilun> hi guys . i am using i3wn on debian 8 . my laptop dont have sound . how can i fix it? it is information of my alsa :replaced-url
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4152 [20:26:43] <iwhb4u> my hardware doesnt support new OS's
4153 [20:26:44] <warsoul> jelly could you help me out please
4154 [20:26:55] <jelly> iwhb4u: which computer is it
4155 [20:27:03] <iwhb4u> an HP, let me check
4156 [20:27:13] <jelly> cpu? year of build?
4157 [20:27:20] <iwhb4u> VAIO
4158 [20:27:36] <user___> Hey everyone, I printed a test page today. Everything looks okay except there's no bottom border.
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4160 [20:27:49] <jelly> warsoul: I could, but I'm tired, my patience is thin and I would not do it for free.
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4164 [20:28:07] <greycat> Isn't VAIO a Sony model?
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4166 [20:28:20] <jelly> iwhb4u: provide the exact brand and model, for a start
4167 [20:28:25] <iwhb4u> yes, it's a SONY, the HP is another one
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4169 [20:28:40] <iwhb4u> i have two old computers
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4171 [20:28:54] <prussian> did you set a root password iwhb4u ?
4172 [20:28:55] <jelly> !release history
4173 [20:28:55] <dpkg> Debian releases are named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7; 2013-05-04), Jessie(8; 2015-04-25). The next release will be Stretch. replaced-url
4174 [20:29:03] <jelly> Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08)
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4178 [20:29:24] <jelly> crosses the line from "horribly old" into "why would you even"
4179 [20:29:32] <Omilun> hi guys . i am using i3wn on debian 8 . my laptop dont have sound . how can i fix it? it is information of my alsa :replaced-url
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4189 [20:31:58] <prussian> are you using pulseaudio as well Omilun ?
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4194 [20:32:46] <greycat> Apparently the VAIO is more of a sub-brand than a model. Too vague. Cannot get specs from that name alone.
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4199 [20:33:19] <iwhb4u> nevermind, i think i've got it
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4201 [20:33:30] <warsoul> greycat could you please just tell me how to install this package from cd i will figure it out the rest
4202 [20:33:45] <LtL> warsoul: am i correct, you have a *.deb file on cd that you want to install?
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4208 [20:35:35] <Devastator> jmcnaught currently I'm trying to make sure what I did so far is correct, meaning: I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage pool?
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4217 [20:36:53] <iwhb4u> Wow! i remember things i learned almost 20 years ago!! vi commands!! :D
4218 [20:37:13] <greycat> good
4219 [20:37:23] <iwhb4u> or, maybe linux is the best!!
4220 [20:37:31] <prussian> warsoul: dpkg -i /path/to/your/deb
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4224 [20:38:54] <jmcnaught> Devastator: one VG for all VMs is fine. Each VM will get an LV to use as its virtual disk. If you're using the virt-manager GUI you can select the localhost (QEMU) connection, go to Edit > Connection Details. On the storage tab find the '+' button, give it a name, select type "logical". On the next screen enter the path to your VG in target path (leave source path blank, build pool unchecked)
4225 [20:38:56] <Omilun> prussian: yes i have it ...
4226 [20:39:31] <Omilun> prussian: is it my problem ?
4227 [20:39:44] <warsoul> LtL exactly
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4229 [20:39:59] <jmcnaught> Devastator: replaced-url
4230 [20:40:29] <LtL> warsoul: read what prussian said, dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
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4233 [20:41:12] <LtL> warsoul: probably something like dpkg -i /media/cdrom0/dir/file.deb -- hit enter
4234 [20:41:31] <greycat> I strongly suggest tab-completing the filename.
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4237 [20:41:45] <warsoul> greycat what?
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4239 [20:41:52] <Omilun> prussian: should i remove that?
4240 [20:42:05] <LtL> warsoul: yes, tab-completion is your friend
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4243 [20:43:22] <lok> is it possible to test/try protocols using device drivers/drivers any?
4244 [20:43:22] <iwhb4u> is there a hardware detector? Debian didn't installed the driver for my TP Link WiFi adapter.
4245 [20:43:26] <jmcnaught> Omilun: pulseaudio solves more problems than it causes these days, at least for most people. have you tried pavucontrol?
4246 [20:43:26] <warsoul> is not working
4247 [20:43:26] <warsoul> none of the commands
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4249 [20:43:32] <jelly> so... info coreutils 'File Permissions' does not work on jessie any more, but a mere info 'File Permissions' works again (after a couple releases and info versions with broken index)
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4251 [20:43:38] <warsoul> greycat if i write a line in sources
4252 [20:43:40] <LtL> warsoul: when you type the first few unique characters and hit <tab> it will complete the path/file, this applies to terminal CLI interface only
4253 [20:43:42] <jelly> iwhb4u: how old is your hardware?
4254 [20:44:06] <greycat> I very much doubt anyone here can help you with wireless networking on Etch.
4255 [20:44:07] <Omilun> jmcnaught: no i dont have pavucontrol
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4258 [20:44:32] <warsoul> greycat i just want to be able to startx without freezing
4259 [20:44:39] <warsoul> after that i will connect via wifi in desktop
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4261 [20:44:45] <jmcnaught> iwhb4u: if you are using Debian 4 from 9 years ago it is quite likely it does not have drivers for a wifi adapter that was probably made after Debian 4 was released. Why are you so sure a current release will not work on your no-model-number hardware?
4262 [20:44:48] <LtL> \o/
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4264 [20:45:02] <warsoul> LtL
4265 [20:45:12] <warsoul> i should type now cd /path/
4266 [20:45:13] <warsoul> ?
4267 [20:45:23] <jelly> iwhb4u: if you pastebin the output of "dmidecode" and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and "free -m" it may help us suggest how likely it is a newer debian release might work
4268 [20:45:25] <greycat> iwhb4u: since Debian is running already, you should be able to get CPU and memory info. Try "free" for memory, and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for CPU.
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4270 [20:45:41] <jmcnaught> Omilun: if pulseaudio is running i would install and try pavucontrol. if pulseaudio is not running, i would add it to the session startup for i3
4271 [20:46:05] <LtL> warsoul: you just described a completely different objective, what exactly are you trying to do
4272 [20:46:25] <jelly> LtL: they're trying to upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel
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4274 [20:46:45] <jelly> greycat: you scared it off!
4275 [20:46:46] <LtL> warsoul: yes type cd /path/to/your/cdrom whatever the mount point may be
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4277 [20:46:52] <corpsegrinder> jmcnaught Add line "exec --no-startup-id pulseaudio" in i3/config/
4278 [20:46:53] <Omilun> jmcnaught: ammm i need to have sound . it is not important to me :D ... how can i fix it?
4279 [20:47:20] <warsoul> LtL i type cd /mnt
4280 [20:47:26] <jmcnaught> Omilun: my suggestion to use pavucontrol did not work?
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4282 [20:47:27] <warsoul> but when i type ls
4283 [20:47:30] <warsoul> there is no files
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4286 [20:47:52] <LtL> warsoul: find the file, copy it to home and cd back home and install it, its the long way but mistake proof almost
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4288 [20:48:10] <Omilun> jmcnaught: ok i remove that and install your suggestion
4289 [20:48:24] <LtL> warsoul: is the cd mounted? type 'mount' no quotes, do you see the cd
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4291 [20:48:42] <jmcnaught> Omilun: not sure what you are removing?
4292 [20:48:49] <fennesz> Hello ! Can anyone help me connect to laptop via bluetooth from phone . I am using Debian 8 x64
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4295 [20:49:32] <Omilun> jmcnaught: pluseaudio
4296 [20:49:41] <LtL> warsoul: by default it probably auto-mounted in /media
4297 [20:50:14] <jmcnaught> Omilun: i did not ask you to remove pulseaudio. pavucontrol is the pulseaudio volume control
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4307 [20:52:02] <Omilun> jmcnaught: ok i installed it ... and run it
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4310 [20:53:52] <warsoul> xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
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4316 [20:54:48] <LtL> warsoul: i give up
4317 [20:55:15] <jelly> warsoul: what does "COLUMNSdpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say
4318 [20:55:18] <jelly> oops
4319 [20:55:22] <jelly> warsoul: what does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say
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4324 [20:57:04] <warsoul> jelly
4325 [20:57:16] <jelly> warsoul!
4326 [20:57:26] <warsoul> dpkg-query: no packages found matching xserver-xorg-intel
4327 [20:57:51] <jelly> warsoul: you'll have to be a lot more careful typing in the commands
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4330 [20:58:18] <warsoul> jelly could you help me install this package please
4331 [20:58:27] <warsoul> is in the cd
4332 [20:58:38] <jelly> warsoul: could you follow instructions precisely?
4333 [20:58:44] <warsoul> yes
4334 [20:58:53] <warsoul> cd is inside
4335 [20:58:54] <jelly> then answer my question.
4336 [20:58:57] <warsoul> im in terminal
4337 [20:59:06] <warsoul> ok
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4340 [20:59:47] <warsoul> yes i could follow your instructions
4341 [20:59:59] <jelly> the question before that.
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4343 [21:00:09] <jelly> warsoul: what does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say
4344 [21:00:45] <warsoul> dpkg-query: no packages found matching xserver-xorg-intel
4345 [21:00:53] <markybob> the answer is no
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4348 [21:01:15] <warsoul> thats what it says
4349 [21:01:25] <jmcnaught> warsoul: you are removing the word video from the command you are asked to use. please try again.
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4352 [21:02:35] <jmcnaught> warsoul: i'm not sure anyone here understands the real problem you are having. You cannot get into X and also cannot connect to the internet, so you are trying to install a .deb file from a CD-ROM?
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4354 [21:02:58] <jelly> !rube goldberg install
4355 [21:02:59] <dpkg> "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke."
4356 [21:03:06] <warsoul> ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.15-2+b2 amd 64 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
4357 [21:03:15] <warsoul> jelly thats what it says
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4359 [21:03:42] <jelly> warsoul: so you did not install the newer version of that package yet.
4360 [21:03:49] <greycat> Aww, old factoid needs update.
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4362 [21:04:08] <jelly> ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
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4364 [21:04:23] <jelly> ^^ would mean you actually managed to upgrade
4365 [21:04:53] <jelly> warsoul: can you connect this machine to a wired network and get to internet that way?
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4367 [21:04:53] <warsoul> whats next?
4368 [21:05:01] <warsoul> jelly
4369 [21:05:02] <greycat> dpkg, rube goldberg install =~ s/2.6.x kernel on a machine/4.10 kernel on my microwave/
4370 [21:05:02] <dpkg> greycat: OK
4371 [21:05:05] <warsoul> i dont know why
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4374 [21:05:11] <warsoul> is connected wired
4375 [21:05:15] <warsoul> but is not working
4376 [21:05:18] <greycat> The 4.10 will need updating after stretch.
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4378 [21:05:54] <jelly> warsoul: ok, can you take a phone camera shot of your screen and upload those to, say, imgur.com if need be?
4379 [21:05:54] <warsoul> thats why i was trying to connect via wifi
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4381 [21:06:06] <warsoul> jelly
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4384 [21:06:08] <warsoul> yes
4385 [21:06:12] <jelly> warsoul: good.
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4388 [21:06:50] <jelly> warsoul: run "ifconfig -a", make a screenshot of that and upload it. Same with "lspci -nn", please
4389 [21:06:58] <warsoul> ok
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4391 [21:07:24] <jmcnaught> nmtui might work to connect to a network assuming firmwares and network-manager are installed
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4394 [21:08:31] <HicksD> I'm looking for a way to run a newer version of kstars on jessie than is possible to backport. Is it possible to run a complete gui app in a sid chroot ? are there any downsides to doing so?
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4407 [21:10:08] <MaBunny> Im going to sleep...its 1am here...gud nite guys :-)
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4412 [21:10:52] <jelly> HicksD: it ought to be possible if the kernel permits
4413 [21:11:12] <warsoul> jelly
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4415 [21:11:13] <warsoul> done
4416 [21:11:13] <jmcnaught> HicksD: that's a good way to do it. take a look at replaced-url
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4418 [21:11:24] <jelly> warsoul: done what?
4419 [21:11:32] <warsoul> photo upload
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4423 [21:12:22] <jelly> warsoul: you have to post the links to your images here if you want us to have a look
4424 [21:12:27] <HicksD> jmcnaught: thanks I'll take a look
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4428 [21:13:12] <jmcnaught> HicksD: you can setup chroots that users can start, and that access your regular home directory
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4431 [21:14:40] <necr0> hi guys
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4438 [21:16:24] <Len> hello guys
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4441 [21:18:15] <user___> Hi there
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4444 [21:18:51] <Devastator_> jmcnaught thanks, virt-manager installed, now I'm figuring out how to start virt-manager as normal user from the console, it says "Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" and lots of Gtk-CRITICAL errors
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4448 [21:19:37] <jmcnaught> Devastator: is your user a member of the libvirt group?
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4452 [21:20:51] <warsoul> jelly
4453 [21:20:54] <warsoul> replaced-url
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4455 [21:21:17] <Devastator> jmcnaught yes
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4457 [21:21:40] <Devastator> jmcnaught I guess it isn't related to KVM itself
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4460 [21:22:40] <jmcnaught> Devastator: what do you mean "from the console"? virt-manager is a gui program you run in X
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4465 [21:24:25] <Devastator> jmcnaught yes, but I didn't install X environment, so I'm typing "virt-manager" as normal user from shell prompt (console?!)
4466 [21:25:16] <greycat> Is it working?
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4468 [21:25:33] <jmcnaught> Devastator: oh well.. that's why it isn't working. Install virt-manager on a computer that does have X, and use it to connect to the libvirt/KVM computer
4469 [21:25:51] <jmcnaught> Devastator: and/or learn how to use virsh
4470 [21:26:03] <LtL> judd: pciid 14e4:4315
4471 [21:26:05] <judd> [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in jessie. See also replaced-url
4472 [21:26:46] <Devastator> jmcnaught if I install X on the server, can I use virt-manager from there instead of another computer?
4473 [21:26:48] <LtL> warsoul: by the look of you photo you need a broadcom driver
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4475 [21:27:04] <greycat> Devastator: obviously yes
4476 [21:27:12] <markybob> bcm4312 needs firmware-b43-installer
4477 [21:27:19] <Devastator> greycat thank you
4478 [21:27:26] <markybob> but that's as involved as i'm gonna get with that mess
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4483 [21:29:40] <LtL> warsoul: have you another computer? jessie driver is here: replaced-url
4484 [21:30:07] <greycat> does "installer" imply that it connects to an internet server to download more stuff?
4485 [21:30:16] <user___> autolog_path = ~/Documents/irclogs/$tag/$0.log
4486 [21:30:22] <LtL> greycat: actually yes
4487 [21:30:23] <user___> oops wc
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4505 [21:35:04] <f31n> hi there, since the last update from samba, i can't connect with any mac on my system, do you know something about that?
4506 [21:35:23] <greycat> !jessie samba
4507 [21:35:23] <dpkg> A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <replaced-url
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4509 [21:35:56] <f31n> greycat: thanks for that
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4511 [21:35:57] <jelly> warsoul: okay. now, make sure the wired network is connected. If you run "dhclient eth0 &", and wait 5-10 seconds, do you get an IP address assigned to eth0 and visible when you run "ifconfig -a" again?
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4513 [21:36:59] <Devastator> greycat well, I've installed xorg now, but look at the error: replaced-url
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4515 [21:37:39] <markybob> you're still not in x are you? you just installed it?
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4517 [21:37:46] <greycat> 2 fggs@egestor:~$ Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
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4523 [21:38:37] <Len> Guys... I have BIG problem with my debian. I was working on sid (yeah..) everything was fine till moment I did upgrade. Right now sddm is failing at libgl (I'm working on gtx970 with nvidia drivers 358.**)
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4525 [21:38:45] <Len> Any ideas how can I make my KDE working again?
4526 [21:38:48] <greycat> That doesn't *sound* like what you'd expect if it's failing to contact the X server, so I am guessing it means the libvert service.
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4528 [21:38:59] <markybob> Len: go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for sid support per /topic
4529 [21:39:10] <Len> markybob: kk, thanks
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4533 [21:41:08] <greycat> (Or it could be that he's missing both an X server *and* the libvert server.)
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4535 [21:41:28] <Devastator> greycat hum, I'm following this wiki: replaced-url
4536 [21:41:35] <markybob> i'm not even sure he answered if he's part of libvirt group to begin with
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4538 [21:42:19] <jmcnaught> Devastator: "systemctl status libvirtd" should tell you if it's running. but clearly you need to be in a GUI X session to run GUI X applications
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4543 [21:43:19] <user> anyone know how to install MS office on debian?
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4545 [21:43:34] <afernandez_> Use Libre Office
4546 [21:43:51] <afernandez_> I do not know if you could use Wine for that
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4548 [21:44:13] <kalebo> if you use Wine you might need to sacrifice a chicken...
4549 [21:44:18] <blind> Probably would not be enjoyable..
4550 [21:44:26] <Devastator> jmcnaught it seems to be running, but it has some errors, do you want to see the output of systemctl status libvirtd?
4551 [21:44:26] <warsoul> jelly with dhclient eth0 & i get [1] 758
4552 [21:44:32] <user> work documents (in word) are not always the best to open in Libre
4553 [21:44:36] <user> so I need a solution
4554 [21:44:41] <jmcnaught> Devastator: sure
4555 [21:44:48] <afernandez_> use windows
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4557 [21:44:58] <markybob> user: 2010 is the last stable release you can use and you need to buy crossover (codeweavers.com) for that to work well
4558 [21:45:08] <jelly> user: depending on how stable you need it to be, you can run windows inside a VM, or buy crossover, or try free wine and winetricks for your ms office version
4559 [21:45:09] <f31n> greycat: actually the topic about that is about smb signing, my problem is more like, i can access my smb though windows, but not through mac - any idea about that too?
4560 [21:45:13] <user> markybob: thats what I just googled :)
4561 [21:45:13] <markybob> user: or use google docs or a vm or a milling ways
4562 [21:45:22] <greycat> Not a clue.
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4564 [21:45:37] <Devastator> jmcnaught replaced-url
4565 [21:45:54] <user> jelly: thanks.. that seems to be the answers I've run into, just seeing if anyone else had personally gone through it
4566 [21:46:13] <jak2000> ho wto enable: 'locate' 'updatedb' bash: command not found
4567 [21:46:33] <jelly> user: I've done the first two, got annoyed with crossover and outlook hanging after 3-4 days of uptime
4568 [21:46:36] <greycat> jak2000: install the locate package
4569 [21:46:57] <jmcnaught> Devastator: "Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied" <--- is kvm module loaded? "lsmod | grep kvm". Do you have a virtualization capable processor?
4570 [21:47:10] <jak2000> done
4571 [21:47:13] <jak2000> now updatedb: E: Unable to locate package updatedb
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4574 [21:47:31] <blind> jak2000: updatedb is part of the locate package
4575 [21:47:39] <user> jelly: guess the best thing to do is to stick with Office Online for now or just switch to windows (I dual boot)
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4577 [21:47:54] <jelly> user: if you have office365, sure
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4579 [21:48:19] <Devastator> jmcnaught replaced-url
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4581 [21:48:25] <jelly> if anyone's going to be compatible with ms office it's ms' own cloud service, I guess
4582 [21:48:42] <greycat> jelly: you think different versions of Office are compatible with each other? HAHAHAHAHA.
4583 [21:49:16] <jak2000> when i exeute, updatedb command say me these error: "/usr/bin/find: `/var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/blkio.reset_stats': Permission denied"
4584 [21:49:31] <jelly> greycat: more compatible than open- or libre- or whatever free crap is ever going to be, yes
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4586 [21:49:42] <greycat> jak2000: be root.
4587 [21:49:42] <jmcnaught> Devastator: are you going to tell us something crazy like "this is all running inside virtualbox" or something? Does your BIOS/firmware have an option to enable/disable VT-d?
4588 [21:50:14] <warsoul> jelly with dhclient eth0 & i get [1] 758
4589 [21:50:41] <jelly> warsoul: ok, did you wait 5-10 seconds and look at ifconfig -a again?
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4591 [21:51:17] <warsoul> jelly i type it again it came now
4592 [21:51:18] <jak2000> greycat with 'sudo' command not work?
4593 [21:51:29] <warsoul> [2] 773
4594 [21:51:36] <greycat> You clearly did not run it with sudo
4595 [21:51:38] <warsoul> [1] Done dhclient eth0
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4597 [21:52:04] <greycat> Unless something in /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/ is a special file system that root can't read.
4598 [21:52:15] <jelly> warsoul: I did not ask you to run dhclient again.
4599 [21:52:22] <jak2000> greycat same error: with root...
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4601 [21:52:31] <jak2000> "/usr/bin/find: `/var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/blkio.reset_stats': Permission denied"
4602 [21:52:36] <greycat> jak2000: what insane crazy horrifying file systems do you have mounted?
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4604 [21:52:46] <jak2000> debian
4605 [21:52:48] <jak2000> jessie
4606 [21:52:52] <greycat> No. What file systems.
4607 [21:53:07] <greycat> What is mounted at or near /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/
4608 [21:53:19] <jelly> warsoul: I asked to wait a bit, then run "ifconfig -a" again, 18 minutes ago: [21:35] <jelly> warsoul: okay. now, make sure the wired network is connected. If you run "dhclient eth0 &", and wait 5-10 seconds, do you get an IP address assigned to eth0 and visible when you run "ifconfig -a" again?
4609 [21:53:20] <warsoul> jelly with ifconfig -a i get eth0 and lo
4610 [21:53:40] <warsoul> im not getting no ip
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4612 [21:54:44] <jmcnaught> jak2000: proxmox?
4613 [21:54:44] <jelly> warsoul: ok. What does "ip link show" say? Also "ip addr show"
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4617 [21:55:05] <jelly> warsoul: show the complete output in a screenshot again.
4618 [21:55:27] <jak2000> installed debian, and next, proxmox
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4620 [21:55:48] <warsoul> the screenshot of ifconfig -a
4621 [21:55:50] <warsoul> ?
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4623 [21:56:00] <queso> Are there any numbers for how many installs of debian there are for different version? wheezy, jessie, testing, etc?
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4625 [21:56:08] <jmcnaught> jak2000: proxmox has its own packages for kernel, lxc, and lots of other core stuff. you need to ask the proxmox channel.
4626 [21:56:16] <jelly> jak2000: after you install proxmox, the system you have is so much changed only the proxmox people really know what's going on there
4627 [21:56:22] <Devastator> jmcnaught yes, no, it's not virtualbox, motherboard has Virtualization support and it is enabled (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3), processor is Q6600
4628 [21:56:26] <jelly> !proxmox
4629 [21:56:26] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
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4633 [21:57:17] <jelly> warsoul: no, screenshot of "ip link show" and "ip addr show". But sure you can add "ifconfig -a" as well.
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4635 [21:57:45] <jak2000> then cant fix the problem?
4636 [21:57:47] <jak2000> :(
4637 [21:57:56] <warsoul> replaced-url
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4646 [21:59:25] <jelly> warsoul: I'm not going to provide further help, since you don't seem to be able to type commands correctly and this is very frustrating.
4647 [21:59:33] <jelly> good luck.
4648 [21:59:41] <warsoul> replaced-url
4649 [21:59:51] <warsoul> there is the one
4650 [22:00:22] <warsoul> ithought the screenshot whats from ifconfig -a
4651 [22:00:30] <warsoul> the las link is what you ask
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4654 [22:00:54] <jelly> sorry, maybe someone else has more patience
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4657 [22:01:27] <greycat> jak2000: if this proxmox thing is mounting crazy shit at /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/ or whatever, then updatedb can't update it, but that may not be a problem. Just ignore it? Does it cache everything else?
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4661 [22:02:01] <warsoul> jelly please
4662 [22:02:11] <warsoul> but i screenshot what you told me
4663 [22:02:21] <warsoul> 1 minute after i post the link
4664 [22:02:58] <jelly> nope, sorry, not even if you paid me
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4668 [22:03:17] <warsoul> ok
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4672 [22:04:06] <warsoul> thanks anyway
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4674 [22:04:20] <jelly> if you find someone else willing to help, make sure to be VERY precise and follow their instructions carefully and to the letter.
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4686 [22:09:29] <warsoul> if i install a debian-kde version
4687 [22:09:32] <jmcnaught> Devastator: anything else that could be non-stock, like custom kernel, grsecurity perhaps?
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4689 [22:09:38] <warsoul> it will happen the samething?
4690 [22:09:48] <markybob> warsoul: yes. seriously...install ubuntu
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4692 [22:10:39] <warsoul> markybob i installed debian in this same pc im using now
4693 [22:10:42] <warsoul> and is working fine
4694 [22:10:49] <warsoul> i dont know why this is happening
4695 [22:10:50] <warsoul> now
4696 [22:11:41] <jmcnaught> warsoul: can you try "nmtui" to start your ethernet connection? you have an ethernet cable plugged in right?
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4700 [22:12:31] <warsoul> jmcnaught yes
4701 [22:12:33] <warsoul> is plugged
4702 [22:12:55] <f31n> greycat: the solution for that is just to add a user with a password, cause the samba version in the lts is 4.2.10 may not got the security update for the badlock fix - smbpasswd -a user fixed the issue; anyway thanks for your help!
4703 [22:13:23] <greycat> badlock is the *reason* jessie was version-bumped from 4.1 to 4.2
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4705 [22:13:28] <Devastator> jmcnaught it works now hehe
4706 [22:13:34] <jmcnaught> Devastator: what was it?
4707 [22:13:34] <Devastator> finally!
4708 [22:13:37] <warsoul> jmcnaught nmtui command not found
4709 [22:13:41] <greycat> normally they would never do that during stable, but apparently samba falls in the same category as bind
4710 [22:13:48] <greycat> "too fucking broken to patch"
4711 [22:13:54] <Devastator> jmcnaught I installed a newer kernel and forgot to reboot
4712 [22:14:03] <LtL> warsoul: what does dmesg say during all of this?
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4714 [22:14:09] <Devastator> jmcnaught 4.5 from backports fyi
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4717 [22:15:16] <jmcnaught> Devastator: i see. generally i recommend sticking with the stock kernel unless you need a newer one for hardware support or something. anyways now you can either stick to the console and use virsh, or run X and use virt-manager. Note that virt-manager can connect to libvirt running on a different system
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4721 [22:15:41] <f31n> greycat: sounds like that xD
4722 [22:15:53] <jmcnaught> warsoul: let's keep the support in the channel please
4723 [22:16:07] <warsoul> jmcnaught nmtui command not found
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4728 [22:17:33] <jmcnaught> warsoul: okay that means network-manager is not installed, too bad. When you run "dhclient eth0" (don't add extra character to the end) what does it say?
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4732 [22:18:51] <jmcnaught> warsoul: ahh i see you've moved to OFTC, i'll let you continue there
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4742 [22:21:34] <warsoul> jmcnaught dhclient eth0
4743 [22:21:44] <warsoul> _ blinking
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4748 [22:21:53] <warsoul> but is not doing nothing
4749 [22:22:08] <Devastator> jmcnaught to make my life easier for now I've installed xming and was able to open virt-manager on my computer
4750 [22:22:24] <Devastator> which sadly runs crap w7
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4754 [22:23:09] <jmcnaught> Devastator: so do you see a 'localhost (QEMU)'? Double-click on it, go to the storage tab
4755 [22:23:19] <warsoul> root@box:/home/warsoul# dhclient eth0
4756 [22:23:24] <warsoul> _ blinking
4757 [22:23:27] <warsoul> root@box:/home/warsoul#
4758 [22:23:28] <warsoul> again
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4760 [22:23:41] <warsoul> it didnt say nothing jmcnaught
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4762 [22:24:02] <Devastator> jmcnaught done
4763 [22:24:28] <jmcnaught> Devastator: there's a '+' button to add a new pool. give it a name, set the type to logical
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4765 [22:25:14] <warsoul> jmcnaught are you going to help me?
4766 [22:25:22] <jmcnaught> Devastator: for the target path, use the path to the VG. Leave source path and build pool blank (unless you want libvirt to build the VG for you, i'm assuming it was already made)
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4768 [22:25:33] <markybob> warsoul: crossposting is against policy.
4769 [22:25:47] <markybob> !crosspost
4770 [22:25:47] <dpkg> Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
4771 [22:25:52] <markybob> warsoul: so they can take over
4772 [22:25:57] <jmcnaught> warsoul: i noticed you moved to OFTC, i'm reluctant to continue here and waste the time of people who might be trying to help you there
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4774 [22:26:41] <warsoul> jmcnaught i quit from there
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4777 [22:27:41] <jmcnaught> warsoul: is this a fresh install, or were things working earlier?
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4784 [22:29:20] <warsoul> fresh install
4785 [22:29:51] <jmcnaught> warsoul: if you run "dmesg | grep -i firmware" do you see messages about firmwares failing to load?
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4792 [22:31:28] <jmcnaught> warsoul: you probably do at least for the broadcom wifi. i'm guessing that your ethernet card also needs a firmware (or it's just not plugged in or something). Reinstalling with the firmware ISO image might be the easiest thing for you to do
4793 [22:31:36] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell warsoul about firmware images
4794 [22:31:58] <warsoul> ERROR: you must go replaced-url
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4796 [22:32:35] <TheFlyingCorpse> oh, so you dont have vendors who download unsigned binaries over http?
4797 [22:32:56] <jmcnaught> warsoul: see the message from dpkg for the installer image to use. see replaced-url
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4800 [22:33:39] <jmcnaught> TheFlyingCorpse: pardon?
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4803 [22:34:28] <TheFlyingCorpse> jmcnaught, it was just a comment. I have 2 vendors who supply us with software on windows that refuse to sign their software because they make an exe on the fly custom PER user for licensing purposes.
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4805 [22:34:55] <TheFlyingCorpse> transmitted over http from their webservers
4806 [22:34:56] <TheFlyingCorpse> :(
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4821 [22:42:12] <AlmAck> hi, what is the best method to install cmake >3.4 on jessie(stable)?
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4823 [22:42:46] <greycat> simple stretch backport?
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4825 [22:43:14] <greycat> cmake is the most appalling dung-heap since imake, so who the hell knows what kind of crazy dependences it may have
4826 [22:43:22] <markybob> ,checkbackport cmake
4827 [22:43:24] <judd> Backporting package cmake in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.20160114~).
4828 [22:43:33] <markybob> that might be tough
4829 [22:43:56] <greycat> "It's tough to use so it should be tough to backport!"
4830 [22:44:19] <AlmAck> hmm... ok, in this case I have to find an other way to build my custom pkg, change cmake dependency version
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4834 [22:46:58] <greycat> ,checkbackport debhelper
4835 [22:46:58] <judd> Backporting package debhelper in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.18.0~).
4836 [22:47:03] <greycat> AHHHHH, that one.
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4839 [22:48:16] <greycat> Oh, no, wait... dpkg-dev isn't tied to dpkg. You can backport that without backporting dpkg.
4840 [22:48:35] <jhutchins> I love it when an error message says EXACTLY what to do to fix it - and people still paste it here.
4841 [22:48:54] <ryouma> can i rset my keyboad, as if i unplugged it andpluged it backin agai, from th cmman line?
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4844 [22:49:58] <greycat> You can possibly unload and reload the USB human input modules.
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4846 [22:50:23] <greycat> That still won't be fully equivalent to a hardware operation.
4847 [22:51:34] <jhutchins> Of course, once you've unloaded the input modules, it's rather hard to enter the command to reload them. You might manage to run a detached script.
4848 [22:51:52] <jhutchins> ... or do it via ssh.
4849 [22:52:08] <ryouma> jhutchins: what comand cve tis? a yo a see,my keybord i droppig lttes.
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4852 [22:52:11] <jhutchins> greycat: Maybe some way to re-trigger udev?
4853 [22:52:15] <ryouma> covers*
4854 [22:52:16] <greycat> I was assuming something like rmmod whatever; sleep 2; modprobe whatever
4855 [22:52:25] <greycat> all in the same command
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4857 [22:52:35] <jhutchins> greycat: Maybe in screen?
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4860 [22:52:52] <greycat> I doubt that would matter.
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4867 [22:54:48] <AlmAck> greycat: seems complicated to me :-) (arch user)
4868 [22:55:02] <greycat> It's a fairly ridiculous question, so yeah.
4869 [22:55:22] <greycat> WHY do you want to "reset your keyboard as if unplugging and replugging it, without actually unplugging and replugging it"?
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4874 [22:55:53] <jmcnaught> could be a laptop keyboard
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4876 [22:57:04] <jhutchins> ryouma: Possibly systemctl --user daemon-reload
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4883 [23:01:00] <jhutchins> ryouma: It appears that systemd-localed.service manages the keyboard, you could try using systemctl to restart/rescan that.
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4886 [23:01:20] <ryouma> jhutchins: i will try that. oddly, although my keyboard is definitely 14:01 *** dethos JOIN
4887 [23:01:43] <warsoul> guys just called my services provider
4888 [23:01:51] <warsoul> they are coming tomorrow to check out the router
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4890 [23:01:53] <jhutchins> ryouma: Possibly restart X.
4891 [23:02:02] <ryouma> definitely broken, also my xmodmap mappings suddenly stopped working
4892 [23:02:05] <warsoul> ethernet is not working with none of the pcs
4893 [23:02:50] <greycat> Which xmodmap settings, exactly?
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4895 [23:03:03] <greycat> Is it about Multi_key? Entering non-ASCII characters?
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4899 [23:04:16] <LtL> warsoul: disconnect te router/modem power, everything... wait, reconnect everything, its worth a shot
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4904 [23:06:10] <warsoul> LtL already did it
4905 [23:06:17] <warsoul> and the provider send some signals
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4907 [23:06:21] <warsoul> is not working
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4910 [23:06:43] <warsoul> with internet connection it will be easier for me and for you guys to help me out
4911 [23:07:03] <LtL> warsoul: sorry, i hope they fix it
4912 [23:07:08] <warsoul> yeah
4913 [23:07:14] <warsoul> they are coming tomorrow at 1pm
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4915 [23:08:25] <markybob> i hope you have a windows box. if they see you using linux they'll just leave
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4920 [23:13:17] <DammitJim> is it normal that I can't install stretch from netinst iso?
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4922 [23:13:27] <greycat> Yes.
4923 [23:13:29] <markybob> DammitJim: yes
4924 [23:13:29] <DammitJim> it borks when trying to install the packages
4925 [23:13:48] <DammitJim> I understand we try to do stable install the upgrade
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4927 [23:13:52] <greycat> We're not even close to a usable stretch installer yet. There'll be release candidates when we get closer.
4928 [23:13:59] <DammitJim> but are there any isos I can install directly from?
4929 [23:14:02] <greycat> No.
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4931 [23:14:03] <DammitJim> oh ok
4932 [23:14:04] <DammitJim> thanks
4933 [23:14:06] <markybob> DammitJim: you need to use stable installer then dist-upgrade ...and stretch support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
4934 [23:14:10] <markybob> DammitJim: no
4935 [23:14:15] <DammitJim> that's good to know... it means I shouldn't be messing with stretch, yet
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4953 [23:18:47] <countbackula> ayo - I have some .deb binaries I need to install on a system that currently doesn't have wifi connection. They're on a USB stick- is there a specific location in which I need to cp or extract them?
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4956 [23:19:11] <greycat> countbackula: Doesn't matter. Just dpkg -i all the files in one command.
4957 [23:19:22] <countbackula> from the drive?
4958 [23:19:28] <greycat> Sure, wherever.
4959 [23:19:35] <countbackula> wouldn't I need to cp them to my home at least
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4962 [23:19:45] <greycat> If you want a backup copy of them in your home, that's fine too.
4963 [23:19:55] <markybob> you don't need to, no
4964 [23:20:05] <markybob> are we being played? is this the same person?
4965 [23:20:11] <countbackula> sweet. just need to be sure
4966 [23:20:17] <countbackula> same person?
4967 [23:20:41] <greycat> His English is much stronger.
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4971 [23:20:56] <markybob> countbackula: nevermind
4972 [23:21:25] <countbackula> markybob: ...ok
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5008 [23:44:13] <andril> is there a way to flash the bios in my Dell in Debian?
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5020 [23:47:48] <countbackula> what do you mean by flash?
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5022 [23:49:31] <andril> update the bios
5023 [23:49:34] <rattking> some dell bios / firmware comes in a .bin file you can run from the cli
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5025 [23:50:17] <AlmAck> ,checkbackport libpolkit-qt5
5026 [23:50:18] <judd> No package named 'libpolkit-qt5' was found in sid/amd64.
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5028 [23:50:24] <AlmAck> ,checkbackport libpolkit-qt5-1-1
5029 [23:50:25] <judd> Backporting package libpolkit-qt5-1-1 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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5031 [23:50:41] <rattking> if not, you could look and see if 'flashrom' supports your hardware
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