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84 [00:55:01] <klow_> General question : I 've been a sysadmin for many years in various capacities, but have somehow consistently avoided LDAP (besides active directory by necessity) . I'm looking at OpenLDAP and my head is telling me no, no no. I know Apache DS and OpenDJ might be better alternatives. I dont have tons of time to sort this out. Any thoughts on which LDAP (open source) to dive into ?
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91 [01:02:58] <freax> i need the latest version of libtorrent-rasterbar so i can complete the compilation of qbittorrent 3.3.4, any tips?
92 [01:03:06] <freax> i'm compiling it from source
93 [01:03:13] <markybob> freax: no. even sid has a pretty old version
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96 [01:03:59] <markybob> freax: in fact i made the bug report on it asking for an upgrade :P replaced-url
97 [01:04:01] <judd> Bug replaced-url
98 [01:04:01] <jelly> how different is libtorrent-rasterbar from libtorrent anyway? The latter was easy to uupdate and build
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101 [01:05:09] <markybob> jelly: there's rakshasa and rasterbar. they're totally different
102 [01:05:17] <markybob> jelly: not at all related except by name
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105 [01:05:54] <markybob> most packages use rasterbar, like deluge
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110 [01:07:27] <freax> so the solution is to install ubuntu? *shudder*
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113 [01:07:51] <markybob> freax: no. install the boost devs need and compile it yourself
114 [01:08:29] <markybob> freax: fyi ubuntu has the same version as sid. 1.0.7. not 1.10 which is latest
115 [01:09:05] <markybob> 1.1.0 sorry.
116 [01:09:13] <freax> i installed boost devs, it still requires libtorrent-rasterbar
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121 [01:09:37] <markybob> yeah. i told you to compile rasterbar.
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123 [01:09:51] <freax> how do i go about doing that
124 [01:10:18] <markybob> freax: their website has very good instructions. i would start with apt-get build-dep libtorrent-rasterbar8
125 [01:10:39] <markybob> smoke break
126 [01:10:41] <freax> roger
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132 [01:16:06] <jelly> markybob, oh, I thought one was just a fork of the other as it happens
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137 [01:16:37] <markybob> jelly: no. rasterbar is made by one of the main developers of utorrent
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139 [01:16:52] <markybob> freax_: you might want to add to the bug report so the developer sees there's more want/need
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142 [01:18:01] <freax_> k
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148 [01:25:30] <freax_> i need a faster laptop, this ones taking ages to compile.. lol
149 [01:25:31] <freax_> bbs
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154 [01:27:47] <klow_> seriously which LDAP server is not a nightmare to configure?
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167 [01:33:28] <markybob> freax_: i use ccache. helps a lot
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181 [01:38:22] <msl09> Why can't I route?
182 [01:38:25] <msl09> ;_;
183 [01:38:59] <msl09> I'm trying to route traffic from port 25 to 587 with the follwing: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 587
184 [01:39:25] <markybob> msl09: iptables is best served in #netfilter
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186 [01:39:32] <msl09> ah
187 [01:39:34] <msl09> ok
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196 [01:46:36] <zykotick9> wondering if i'm missing something obvious, or if others have different results. when i install rtorrent (0.9.2-1) it doesn't come with a rtorrent.rc file? "dpkg -L rtorrent" doesn't list one. i got it by going to packages.debian.org and downloading the rtorrent_0.9.2.orig.tar.gz and it's is in there?
197 [01:47:21] <markybob> zykotick9: that's in rtpg-replaced-url
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200 [01:48:36] * zykotick9 thinks that's messed up... markybob thanks (<- how did you find that out? if you don't mind sharing)
201 [01:49:05] <markybob> zykotick9: apt-file search rtorrent.rc
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204 [01:49:46] <zykotick9> markybob: thanks. apt-file is something i've always ignored... i suspect that was going to be the answer. /me goes to install/learn apt-file
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217 [01:54:27] <zykotick9> markybob: follow up question. i think that is a bug... but before i even try to report it - is there some rule about a file only appearing in one package at a time or something? why would rtorrent's config example be in a front-ends package? <- that doesn't seem logical to me...
218 [01:55:11] <markybob> zykotick9: it can only appear in one package, or else it'll conflict
219 [01:55:20] <markybob> zykotick9: apt won't install
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221 [01:55:26] * zykotick9 was worried about that...
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228 [01:58:43] <zykotick9> markybob: ahhh. i see with "apt-file search rtorrent.rc" it's in the rtgui & rtpg-replaced-url
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232 [02:00:07] <markybob> zykotick9: no one is gz the other isn't :P
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235 [02:00:20] <markybob> zykotick9: that's how they get around the conflict
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241 [02:00:48] <markybob> zykotick9: besides you should be using torrent
242 [02:01:03] * markybob was lead deluge developer for a couple years
243 [02:01:06] <zykotick9> ? "torrent"
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245 [02:01:15] <markybob> deluge*
246 [02:01:17] <markybob> ugh
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250 [02:01:44] <bazhang> the one after transmission
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267 [02:07:58] <zykotick9> i've used both transmission and deluge in the past... now-a-days, if i can't run it in tmux it's gotta be pretty "special" (firefox/chromium/gimp jump to mind)
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270 [02:08:38] <zykotick9> ^ and pysolfc
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272 [02:08:48] <markybob> you can run deluge in tmux. deluge-console package
273 [02:09:03] <zykotick9> then it's on the table again ;)
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278 [02:10:00] <polyzen> transmission ftw
279 [02:10:00] <Quadrant> is there a premade lxc container of debian jessie somewhere i can download
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281 [02:10:10] <markybob> zykotick9: plus you can just use deluged with deluge-webui since you already use a web browser
282 [02:10:23] <zykotick9> markybob: while i expect the answer might be a "bit" biased... are there any big advantages to using deluge-console over rtorrent?
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284 [02:10:31] <polyzen> didn't know deluge had a daemon
285 [02:10:42] <markybob> zykotick9: probably not.
286 [02:10:44] <echosystm> is there a debian server irc hcannel?
287 [02:10:46] <markybob> polyzen: sure does
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289 [02:10:52] <zykotick9> markybob: ;) thanks.
290 [02:10:53] <Quadrant> sorry. my irc client auto updated
291 [02:10:54] <markybob> #deluge
292 [02:10:56] <polyzen> lol Quadrant
293 [02:10:59] <echosystm> i need some help from leet server peeps
294 [02:11:08] <Quadrant> did i miss anything :P
295 [02:11:09] <echosystm> what channel would be best for that?
296 [02:11:11] <markybob> most help comes from forum.deluge-torrent.org though
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298 [02:11:14] <polyzen> Quadrant, no :p
299 [02:11:16] <Quadrant> heh
300 [02:11:20] <Quadrant> perfrect!
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304 [02:11:37] <TandyUK> echosystm: you're in it?
305 [02:12:02] <echosystm> ok cool
306 [02:12:07] <echosystm> here we go!
307 [02:12:14] * TandyUK hides
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309 [02:12:31] <echosystm> my VPN provider doesn't keep IP addresses around for very long, to stop them from being blocked
310 [02:12:37] <echosystm> so you must connect via hostname
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313 [02:12:54] <echosystm> i want all traffic outside the VPN to be blocked
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315 [02:13:16] <echosystm> however, i can't do that, because it needs DNS to find the hostname of the VPN
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318 [02:13:35] <echosystm> if i keep port 53 open on eth0, then DNS will leak when the VPN drops
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320 [02:13:47] <echosystm> does anyone have a mad solution to this problem?
321 [02:14:05] <echosystm> at the moment, i block port 53 when tun0 comes up, but then the VPN can't reconnect if it drops
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323 [02:14:42] <markybob> echosystm: replaced-url
324 [02:15:22] <echosystm> yeah i read that guide
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326 [02:15:40] <echosystm> it doesn't block anything
327 [02:15:55] <echosystm> ive read every guide on the internet and they all have big problems
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329 [02:16:22] <echosystm> all that guide does is put the DNS nameservers above your isp/router nameservers
330 [02:16:26] <markybob> echosystm: then probably try ##networkig
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332 [02:16:32] <echosystm> if the VPN drops, you gonna leak 100%
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334 [02:16:45] <markybob> spelled correctly
335 [02:16:53] <echosystm> ok cheers
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339 [02:17:50] <TandyUK> sounds like you just need scripts on ifup/ifdown
340 [02:18:04] <TandyUK> but you will need to write and customise those yourself based on your own requirements
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354 [02:22:41] <freax_> i ran into a problem while compiling qbittorrent 3.3.4
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358 [02:22:50] <freax_> here is the paste dump: replaced-url
359 [02:23:14] <markybob> everyone's using the wrong torrent client today
360 [02:23:22] <zykotick9> hehe
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364 [02:26:04] <markybob> freax_: there is #qbittorent and ask about line 38
365 [02:27:09] <freax_> done that
366 [02:27:12] <freax_> no reply
367 [02:27:30] <markybob> ,checkbackport qbittorrent
368 [02:27:31] <judd> Backporting package qbittorrent in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
369 [02:27:37] <markybob> so why are you trying to do it yourself?
370 [02:27:42] <markybob> !tell freax_ about ssb
371 [02:28:24] <markybob> same verson. do that. so many times easier
372 [02:29:11] <freax_> you might as well be talking klingon
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374 [02:30:06] <markybob> freax_: i can if you want me to. i love star trek :P
375 [02:30:49] <markybob> freax_: okay, step by step. sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list and add deb-src replaced-url
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377 [02:31:33] <markybob> freax_: sudo apt-get update. sudo apt-get build-dep qbittorrent. sudo apt-get source -b qbittorrent. that'll build deb packages. then dpkg -i *.deb
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382 [02:32:16] <markybob> smoke break
383 [02:32:59] <freax> ok added the repository
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385 [02:33:15] <freax> i should then install that thingy
386 [02:34:47] <freax> build-dep + libtorrent-rasterbar8
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395 [02:36:59] <freax> for crying out loud
396 [02:37:08] <freax> same error message when trying to compile qbittorrent
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401 [02:40:47] <markybob> freax: you need to do apt-get build-dep libtorrent-rasterbar8 and apt-get source -b libtorrent-raster8 first. then dpkg -i those debs first. then you tackle qbittorrent
402 [02:41:10] <markybob> freax: apt-get source -b libtorrent-rasterbar*
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404 [02:41:38] <markybob> freax: you said earlier you were compiling rasterbar but if you want to do ssb you need the packages to fullfil the dependencies
405 [02:42:12] <markybob> libtorrent-rasterbar8 damnit
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409 [02:43:41] <markybob> or just do the logical thing and install deluge
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411 [02:44:31] <freax> k
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643 [05:44:17] <freax_> deluge is broken on debian 8 too
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649 [05:47:01] <jmcnaught> freax_: broken how? i have transmission-gtk here and it works great.
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657 [05:51:20] <freax_> deluge is not transmission
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718 [06:42:05] <est31> There has been this announcement that debian will be dropping support for older cpus
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721 [06:42:18] <est31> now I wonder whether my CPU is affected by that
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723 [06:42:56] <dax> which CPU?
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725 [06:43:16] <est31> My device is 2 years old
726 [06:43:18] <est31> model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3520 @ 2.16GHz
727 [06:43:37] <dax> (and I assume you mean the discussion of dropping i586 support?)
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730 [06:44:01] <est31> I think so yes
731 [06:44:14] <dax> any intel stuff from the last decade or two is fine
732 [06:44:15] <est31> this email replaced-url
733 [06:45:06] <est31> The email says "Pentium" and cat /proc/cpuinfo says pentium as well
734 [06:45:10] <dax> the word "Pentium" in that email doesn't mean the same thing as "Pentium" in your CPU's model name, somewhat obnoxiously
735 [06:45:21] <aypea[1]> est: you'll be fine. that pentium is from the late 90s early 2000s
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737 [06:45:27] <dax> "The current Pentium processors have only the name in common with the early ones"
738 [06:45:50] <jmcnaught> est31: your processor is 64-bit and very recentl. Debian is dropping support for some kinds of x86 chips from the 1990s
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740 [06:45:57] <aypea[1]> est: so basically anything from that pentium onwards is fine.
741 [06:46:03] <dax> Pentium in the email means the P5 architecture, i.e. replaced-url
742 [06:46:16] <dax> which, again, is a couple of decades old
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744 [06:46:46] <dax> modern "Pentium"s are based on the Intel Core architecture or newer
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746 [06:47:11] <est31> oh okay
747 [06:47:26] <est31> phew, that had almost ruined my morning
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824 [07:44:14] <critter> Hi
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826 [07:44:56] <critter> anyone can talk to me about debian uefi secure boot suport?
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828 [07:45:09] <markybob> critter: yes. debian doesn't support secure boot at all
829 [07:45:32] <markybob> critter: it's in the works and will be supported in stretch, the next stable release, which comes out in spring 2017
830 [07:45:33] <awwal> hihi
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832 [07:46:12] <critter> markybob, what approach are you taking?
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834 [07:46:45] <markybob> critter: i dont know what you mean. i just watch a video from debconf a week ago that talked about it. that's the plan. stretch.
835 [07:47:07] <markybob> critter: you can use uefi but not secure boot
836 [07:47:12] <critter> markybob, though you were dev
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838 [07:48:02] <critter> markybob, ok, another thing, full disk encryption, is it possible without unencrypted boot partition?
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840 [07:48:12] <markybob> critter: they're basically going to pay a small fee to get it "certified". it's fucked up but you do what you have to
841 [07:48:36] <critter> to fedora?
842 [07:48:40] <markybob> critter: microsoft
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844 [07:49:14] <critter> markybob, weird...
845 [07:49:29] <markybob> critter: and full disk encryption is not something i've cracked because i've never understood the point of an encrypted /boot, so i never really looked into it
846 [07:50:02] <critter> markybob, someone can replace your kernel
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850 [07:50:55] <markybob> damn that's a level of paranoia i haven't experienced since the 80's
851 [07:51:29] <critter> markybob, 80's?
852 [07:51:40] <markybob> cold war. i'm old :P
853 [07:52:29] <xcel---> :D
854 [07:53:58] <awwal> debian going to pay a few $ for microsoft? my bad...
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856 [07:54:07] <markybob> yeah
857 [07:54:13] <critter> openbsd supports full disk encryption
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860 [07:54:35] <markybob> critter: you can find howto's for debian it's just not easy
861 [07:54:43] <critter> it can be implemented on grup, dont you think?
862 [07:54:49] <critter> grub
863 [07:55:07] <markybob> critter: google will show you how. it's just pulling teeth for no reason
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872 [07:58:51] <awwal> I wonder if the old school DD's is being replaced by new DD's who are flexible with debian rules making debian every day more open to non-free stuff, debuntu ...:(
873 [07:59:02] <critter> markybob, grub offers encryption features?
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877 [07:59:27] <critter> just read on slashdot that deb is droping old x86 support
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879 [07:59:56] <jmcnaught> critter: that's about x86 chips from the 1990s, pre-Pentium II
880 [07:59:59] <markybob> critter: not totally true. it will continue to support 686.
881 [08:00:48] <markybob> so yeah, 586 and 486 are fucked
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883 [08:01:16] <jmcnaught> 486 was already dropped for squeeze
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1041 [09:24:16] <TomyWork> hi, was there a problem with the wheezy-updates repo last week? may 3rd-ish?
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1064 [09:39:55] <brontosaurusrex> with alsa, how can I enable line output or should that be automagic? (only internal speaker is talking so far)
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1066 [09:41:17] <jmcnaught> brontosaurusrex: are you not using pulseaudio?
1067 [09:42:03] <brontosaurusrex> no, alsa only
1068 [09:42:28] <brontosaurusrex> Line out + Speak seems to be on Auto-Mute mode
1069 [09:42:41] <brontosaurusrex> acording to alsa mixer
1070 [09:43:30] <brontosaurusrex> On extremly similar machine I think this was working out of the box.
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1127 [10:12:29] <brontosaurusrex> ok, the problem was that I put the cable on the wrong pc :P
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1152 [10:26:52] <phantomcircuit> running jessie there seems to be some reason that gnupg-1.4.18-7+deb8u1
1153 [10:26:55] <phantomcircuit> needs to be installed
1154 [10:26:59] <phantomcircuit> how can i tell what depends on that?
1155 [10:27:13] <phantomcircuit> nvm it's apt...
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1160 [10:28:58] <plasmoduck> Hello
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1164 [10:33:39] <plasmoduck> #moc
1165 [10:33:56] <Stummi> phantomcircuit, for future reference: aptitude why <package>
1166 [10:34:07] <plasmoduck> How do I set a moc theme
1167 [10:34:20] <Stummi> what is a moc theme?
1168 [10:34:27] <plasmoduck> Music On Console
1169 [10:34:33] <plasmoduck> MOC is a music player
1170 [10:34:56] <Stummi> hm.. don't know it. Does nothing about it stands in its manpage or documentation?
1171 [10:38:44] <plasmoduck> I figured it out, thanks.
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1174 [10:42:17] <plasmoduck> replaced-url
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1177 [10:47:01] <dubin> Does debian come with kde 5
1178 [10:47:17] <Ticho> testing branch does
1179 [10:47:25] <Ticho> stable still has kde4 (fortunately)
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1193 [10:54:16] <zpzpzpzpz> upgrading stable to testing wont break my sytem right?
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1195 [10:55:05] <Ticho> if you think about what the words "stable" and "testing" mean, you will realize that the answer is "it might"
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1198 [10:55:54] <Cosmos82> zpzpzpzpz: I did so. And it was all good. Though you have to be aware of the fact that you won't be able to install some stuff since it has made it into testing
1199 [10:56:00] <dubin> It will make it less stable because it's bleeding edge
1200 [10:56:11] <Cosmos82> *it has not made it into testing
1201 [10:56:43] <dubin> replaced-url
1202 [10:56:45] <Cosmos82> But if you have no problems reading bug reports and the like, stable to testing shouldn't do _too_ much damage
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1204 [10:57:26] <Cosmos82> dubin: afaik bleeding edge for debian is sid. testing is fairly stable.
1205 [10:58:03] <zpzpzpzpz> i think testing is still old
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1209 [10:59:59] <Cosmos82> zpzpzpzpz: well it is newer than what's in stable.
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1211 [11:00:30] <zpzpzpzpz> yes
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1215 [11:00:41] <zpzpzpzpz> what is the version of nodejs in testing_?
1216 [11:01:09] <Cosmos82> If that's not good enough, you can go to sid. _That's_ bleeding edge.
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1220 [11:02:19] <Ticho> replaced-url
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1232 [11:08:33] <s4ndm4n> If you keep /boot within encrypted LVM, it works too
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1243 [11:15:09] <plasmoduck> Anyone about?
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1251 [11:20:13] <Walex> plasmoduck: you!
1252 [11:21:22] <plasmoduck> Walex: have you much experience with Awesome WM?
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1254 [11:22:24] <Walex> plasmoduck: the convention in IRC is to just ask a question, and then if someone feels like they will comment. It can take some hours...
1255 [11:24:06] <dubin> Remember the good old days of linux
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1262 [11:27:11] <Walex> dubin: when it was a close UNIX clone, and it fit in a 64MiB host with space to spare? :-)
1263 [11:27:27] <Walex> dubin: pre-hipster Linux? :-)
1264 [11:27:56] <dubin> I was thinking aroung 2.0
1265 [11:28:48] <Walex> dubin: more or less the same, pre-hipster, unbloated Linux.
1266 [11:28:55] <s4ndm4n> Walex: That's long time
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1272 [11:30:24] <Walex> s4ndm4n: not for me, relatively speaking. I still remember my PDP-11/34 with UNIX 7/BSD2.9 running 3 users in 256KiB of RAM on a 100KHz CPU.
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1274 [11:30:34] <Walex> :-)
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1276 [11:31:21] <dubin> My first computer had 256mb ram
1277 [11:31:50] <Walex> dubin: that was huge :-)
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1279 [11:33:00] <plasmoduck> Anyone played around with Haiku? it's a revival of BeOS.
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1281 [11:33:04] <Walex> for amusement here is a quote replaced-url
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1284 [11:33:17] <plasmoduck> I like to collect and try different operating systems.
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1286 [11:33:25] <plasmoduck> Mainly obsure ones.
1287 [11:33:47] <Walex> when there was a " GNOME memory reduction project" that aimed to slim it down so it would work well, instead of slowly, in 128MiB.
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1290 [11:34:07] <dubin> just use ice
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1293 [11:34:35] <Walex> plasmoduck: Haiku was pretty good, and the current freeware implementation is quite credible too. Sometimes I wonder whether to switch...
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1295 [11:35:32] <Walex> plasmoduck: if you want to collect obscure OSes, OS6, MUSS, TWENEX, TSS/370, ITSS all come to mind :-)
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1297 [11:36:07] <dubin> replaced-url
1298 [11:36:16] <dubin> you can download old os there
1299 [11:36:29] <Walex> plasmoduck: there are several more recent UNIX-y ones, for i386/amd64 CPUs.
1300 [11:36:56] <Walex> dubin: interesting place.
1301 [11:37:53] <shtrb> Any idea how I can tap into USB bus from a vbox hosted debian (I can move to any other virtualization that can run on win10) ? I wish that debian's kernel will interact with the USB bus directly (and not via an intermidiate driver).
1302 [11:37:53] <shtrb> backstory , bloody win10 is failing to support with Nokia modem drivers , so I used a vbox and passed all usb interfaces into VBox (using vbox extnensions) , Debian SID within the VBOX run wvdial and able to use the modem. the downside the host OS still need a driver that can claim the device (failed to see how I can pass devices which are set as unknown in windows device manager).
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1304 [11:38:21] <plasmoduck> Walex: are you a VMS fan?
1305 [11:38:56] <Walex> plasmoduck: I used to semi-like VMS, but I am an MUSS/Multics/Accent fan :-)
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1307 [11:39:09] <dubin> you can download linux kernel 0.01
1308 [11:39:15] <Walex> plasmoduck: ahhhh also recommend KeyKOS/EROS for looking at.
1309 [11:39:22] <plasmoduck> Walex: Ah ;-)
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1311 [11:39:56] <plasmoduck> dubin: what on earth would you do with it?
1312 [11:40:38] <Walex> dubin: there is a Linux 'git' repo for "legacy" code that goes way back, I think all the way to 0.02 at least IIRC
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1327 [11:50:33] <qis> Is there a way to configure dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces so that it will try to get an address asynchronously?
1328 [11:50:57] <shtrb> qis , what does that mean ?
1329 [11:51:02] <Walex> qis: yes, but that's crazy
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1331 [11:51:11] <qis> I'm working in a VM with three interfaces. Two are DHCP and 0-1 of them are really connected during boot.
1332 [11:51:19] <qis> But both appear physically connected at all times.
1333 [11:51:19] <is_null> hi all, is it normal that i get this error with apt-get update on jessie ? E: Release file for replaced-url
1334 [11:51:26] <Walex> qis: 'detach' option to 'dhclient'
1335 [11:51:29] <qis> Walex: Don't care. I need it. =)
1336 [11:51:33] <qis> Walex: Thanks.
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1341 [11:52:18] <qis> Walex: Strange, the docs don't mention it in the config file.
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1349 [11:54:52] <Walex> qis: it is the '-nw' option
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1364 [12:03:05] <unborn> guys any vpn master here?
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1366 [12:04:02] <qis> No, only time lords.
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1368 [12:05:06] <vegardx> Zing!
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1371 [12:07:07] <unborn> anyone knows how to block internet access on vpn server? meaning client can connect to vpn and use resources on another network but keeps his own internet connection?
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1373 [12:08:25] <Qann> unborn: Not sure how. But I assume you're using OpenVPN. Just send the routes for the network, not for the whole internet.
1374 [12:08:29] <donoban> unborn: I see at least two ways for doing it, using a firewall
1375 [12:08:31] <Walex> unborn: probably that's not the question you want to ask.
1376 [12:08:47] <donoban> or configuring a non-working gw for the vpn clients
1377 [12:08:59] <donoban> or don't give them a gw address
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1379 [12:09:43] <shtrb> unborn , don't pass the default gw and use a different subnet from your own
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1381 [12:09:44] <Walex> unborn: "qann" and "donoban" have given you half of the answer to the question you probably should have asked...
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1384 [12:10:24] <Walex> unborn: the other half is "if I configure the VPN server to not give them a default route or to block it, how can the client access the internet then?"
1385 [12:10:42] <unborn> thanks guys.. well basically I want user to be able to connect to vpn where my machine sits and to be able access files on that machine.. but while user is connected to vpn he would be able only access internet via his local connection so he will be using his own public ip.. heh
1386 [12:10:49] <qis> I see no way to configure nowait for dhclient and google search results are less than helpful.
1387 [12:10:52] <Walex> unborn: the answer to that is "most clients have an option that says "keep existing default route".
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1389 [12:11:17] <qis> The interfaces appear connected but there is no DHCP server listening on the network. Still stalling.
1390 [12:11:26] <donoban> unborn: your clients show add only a route to the vpn subnet, but not a default gw entry
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1392 [12:11:43] <Walex> qis: option '-nw'/"detach"/"nowait" to 'dhclient' must work...
1393 [12:12:55] <shtrb> unborn , are you using routing or bridge ? in any case you can choose not to push default gw
1394 [12:12:56] <donoban> unborn: you could add a custom script with up paramter, an manually delete the default gw added by openvpn
1395 [12:13:15] <shtrb> donoban , you are working to hard
1396 [12:13:23] <shtrb> *too hard
1397 [12:13:35] <donoban> if it's possible to dont push the default gw better
1398 [12:13:38] <qis> Walex: You mean I should manually add an /etc/dhclient.conf config file?
1399 [12:13:46] <shtrb> yes , it's an option in openvpn
1400 [12:13:52] <donoban> :)
1401 [12:13:58] <shtrb> you actually need to enable it
1402 [12:14:03] <Walex> qis: in 'interfaces' you need to use 'manual' ,method and then use 'pre-up' to invoke 'dhclient' and 'pre-down' to kill it.
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1405 [12:14:26] <donoban> on server conf shtrb?
1406 [12:14:27] <shtrb> so if he pushes routes , he just can not set the one that pass all (only network) in case of dhcp not to push default gw
1407 [12:14:28] <unborn> shtrb: nope..its classic vpn setup which works, however I would like to make it that if anyone connects into it he would only have access to local machines. Internet should be accessible only from his own connection, not via vpn, while he is connected to the vpn
1408 [12:14:29] <shtrb> yes
1409 [12:14:31] <Walex> qis: kill it means using "dhclient -r"
1410 [12:14:33] <shtrb> donoban , yes
1411 [12:14:36] <qis> Walex: Thanks. I think I'll rather wait if debian does not support it.
1412 [12:14:52] <Walex> qis: that does not make a lot of sense.
1413 [12:14:57] <unborn> Walex: so blocking it on firewall level?
1414 [12:15:07] <shtrb> unborn , in openvpn you have bridged and routing , ip can be sent via dhcp , ccd , or hardcoded
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1416 [12:15:25] <shtrb> unborn , I understand
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1418 [12:15:59] <shtrb> unborn , make sure that redirect-gateway is not enabled (on client)
1419 [12:16:16] <Walex> unborn: as the others have mentioned, on the server side you don't send a default route to the client, and you block the VPN-assigned source addresses from accessing addresses other than local. Then on the client side you tell the clients to use the local default route as "shtrb" just added.
1420 [12:16:25] <vegardx> You can "block" Internet access by not enabling package forwarding.
1421 [12:16:34] <shtrb> and on server don't in case of route push don't put the last arg
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1424 [12:17:53] <shtrb> unborn , in case of bridged and relay you need to dance a bit
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1426 [12:19:04] <unborn> vegardx: im going to try that.. shtrb well that could work but I would rather prefer server side solution.. you know how it is with people :)
1427 [12:19:06] <shtrb> in any case don't push the routes to 0.0.0.0 and don't push redirect-gateway (on server
1428 [12:19:15] <shtrb> I'm talking about both sides
1429 [12:19:32] <vegardx> You still might want to push a valid route. You know, to actially let things access each other.
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1431 [12:19:38] <shtrb> *unborn , you have to work to enable dhcp and redirect-gateway to actually work
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1433 [12:19:48] <Walex> unborn: as "shtrb" you need both sides. If the client default routes are blocked on the server, people will get upset at you.
1434 [12:20:09] <vegardx> But when you disable package forwarding you disable packages from going from TUN/TAP to the bridge. And your route should naturally reflect that as well, and set a default route.
1435 [12:20:25] <vegardx> and not set*
1436 [12:20:26] <vegardx> Err!
1437 [12:20:29] <Walex> unborn: as "shtrb" says you need both sides. If the client default routes remain via the VPN and are blocked on the server, people will get upset at you.
1438 [12:20:48] <shtrb> usually with openvpn a server can publish a default gw (via redirect-gateway def1 and pushing routes) , in case of tun vs tan the issue is a bit harder
1439 [12:21:49] <shtrb> then client will choose if it take what you send or not
1440 [12:21:57] <vegardx> You just want to push a route that reflects the subnet you have used for VPN.
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1444 [12:22:39] <unborn> okay I see..
1445 [12:22:42] <shtrb> in addition to what vegrax said , as soon as the client gain an ip (via any way you choose) push the route
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1448 [12:25:14] <unborn> well is there any way to setup vpn acting like connect pc1 to pc2 where pc2 is just standalone unit without internet but keep user happy and connected on internet in pc1? I guess not really
1449 [12:25:33] <shtrb> ofc yes
1450 [12:25:42] <shtrb> no dhcp at all , just route with a static ip
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1452 [12:25:58] <shtrb> over bridged mode
1453 [12:26:15] <shtrb> and to make it even better add a relay on server side (to interconnect)
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1455 [12:27:02] <shtrb> each client will either have an ip locally (manually assigned) or over CCD
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1458 [12:27:37] <vegardx> It's hard to get DHCP to work over OpenVPN, due to the fact that it doesn't transmit broadcast.
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1462 [12:27:43] <shtrb> just remember not to use (192.168.1.0/24 or 10.0.0.0/24)
1463 [12:27:57] <shtrb> vegardx , that is why you can use bridged mode
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1467 [12:28:13] <vegardx> I thought you still had the same problem there?
1468 [12:28:17] <shtrb> no
1469 [12:28:21] <vegardx> I might be mistaken it for IPSec on that part.
1470 [12:28:29] <shtrb> bridge exist to allow broadcast
1471 [12:28:44] <shtrb> IPSec is a win10
1472 [12:28:53] <vegardx> Ah, you're right. But there is a boatload of other issues related to that.
1473 [12:28:56] <shtrb> I mean IPSec is a win10 to setup
1474 [12:29:09] <shtrb> (Instead of putting a nice course I just say win10)
1475 [12:29:29] <shtrb> vegardx, even with tunnel you have a workaround for dhcp
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1477 [12:29:47] <shtrb> but it will not work on androids
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1482 [12:31:21] <paule32> hello
1483 [12:31:37] <paule32> i have download the debian mirror
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1486 [12:32:01] <paule32> how can i install debian per tftp
1487 [12:32:03] <paule32> ?
1488 [12:32:12] <paule32> i have a apache2 site
1489 [12:32:26] <shtrb> vegardx, the fastest thing one can do with tun is to use ifconfig-pool/client-connect (but that is ugly as maintaining win10 )
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1492 [12:32:49] <vegardx> Hehe
1493 [12:32:55] <nkuttler> !tell paule32 about netboot
1494 [12:33:07] <paule32> that point to: replaced-url
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1496 [12:33:09] <vegardx> I just use IPSec. *shrugs*
1497 [12:33:21] <shtrb> vegardx, no roadwarriors ?
1498 [12:33:25] <nardev> guys, why maintaining #debian chan on deb server and on freenode?
1499 [12:34:15] <vegardx> Because people like different networks?
1500 [12:34:16] <jelly> paule32: best read the install guide. replaced-url
1501 [12:34:21] <vegardx> There's also one on EFNet.
1502 [12:34:29] <shtrb> paule32 , ipxe ?
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1505 [12:35:22] <jelly> nardev: mostly because lots of users never switched over to OFTC back in 2005 when debian devel channels moved
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1507 [12:35:30] <vegardx> Or just use a USB-stick or whatever to boot into a netinst iso and set the apt mirror manually.
1508 [12:35:52] <nardev> jelly, so all sponsors and ddes are in deb. server?
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1511 [12:36:23] <jelly> nardev: if you're talking about GSOC sponsors, yeah
1512 [12:36:26] <unborn> shtrb: bridged mode should work.. main purpose of this connection is vpn from pc2 to pc1 over internet
1513 [12:36:26] <shtrb> paule32 , assume you have good connection ?
1514 [12:36:42] <nardev> jelly, packaging sponsors...
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1516 [12:36:54] <paule32> nkuttler: ether i get the message that hvm kernel for debian ís not found, or install must be in tree
1517 [12:36:55] <jelly> that too
1518 [12:36:56] <paule32> yes
1519 [12:36:59] <shtrb> unborn , birdged has it's own downsides (more security considurations)
1520 [12:37:34] <shtrb> unborn , it forces you to have a good firewall and to have a baseball bat with a warning don't touch my network
1521 [12:38:21] <paule32> «Could not find an installable distribution at 'replaced-url
1522 [12:38:21] <paule32> The location must be the root directory of an install tree.»
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1524 [12:39:59] <shtrb> unborn , in case you are going to have it as a backup system make sure to run on 443 and maybe you will need to work with port sharing
1525 [12:41:02] <paule32> shtrb: have you an idea?
1526 [12:41:03] <shtrb> sslh is just one option
1527 [12:41:09] <unborn> shtrb: meh, perhaps best way would be install guacamole on local server out there in office and keep connecting via ssh proxy.. that would be simplest way possibly
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1529 [12:41:43] <shtrb> unborn , ssh contrary to openvpn doesn't work on windows without many extrernal changes
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1531 [12:42:01] <shtrb> paule32 , network config ?
1532 [12:42:03] <unborn> and files shared only via ssh
1533 [12:42:17] <paule32> shtrb: local?
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1536 [12:42:42] <shtrb> unborn , If I understnad your issue correctly you are failing to install from the network
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1541 [12:43:06] <shtrb> (as in accessing ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images ... )
1542 [12:43:06] <unborn> shtrb: I know.. its only 15 machines.. very small setup, so I dont mind to setup everything manually but guacamole would be possible best simplified option to go with
1543 [12:43:33] <shtrb> what ever works beter for your ecosystem
1544 [12:43:40] <paule32> shtrb: not correct?
1545 [12:43:54] <shtrb> * I would stick to openvpn
1546 [12:44:07] <unborn> shtrb: vpn in office works correctly ...office <--> my home fine, however if I block internet on vpn server hosted in home, they in office loose internet too.. that was the issue
1547 [12:44:14] <shtrb> paule32 , if you are accessing an ftp server many things can break in the process
1548 [12:44:31] <shtrb> that is why pxe is good to install from a local server (safe)
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1550 [12:44:42] <unborn> I can setup vpn there in their office and use that then.. its all good.
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1553 [12:45:12] <paule32> shtrb: the data lays in apache2 html tree folder
1554 [12:45:25] <paule32> mydomain.example.com/
1555 [12:45:37] <shtrb> unborn , go to your least technical person in the office (let's say the marking director) and see if they can handle your solution
1556 [12:45:44] <paule32> the document path is /var/replaced-url
1557 [12:45:45] <shtrb> paule32 , I missed it was a local installation
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1559 [12:46:14] <unborn> 0o huh?
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1562 [12:46:41] <shtrb> unborn , always take your weakes point and check your config against it
1563 [12:46:52] <paule32> shtrb: yes, would install local, and the server is in internet by an ISP
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1565 [12:46:55] <paule32> as vserver
1566 [12:47:40] <shtrb> If I understand you correctly , you wish to have a PXE server like under (replaced-url
1567 [12:48:21] <paule32> netboot, yes but not local lan, but wan - remote
1568 [12:48:26] <shtrb> same lan, working dhcp , boot from net works
1569 [12:48:29] <unborn> shtrb: installing vpn in office server worked for me.. I am able to connect to office machines vnc servers and do remote tasks. This way I am not sharing my private network resources which was the initial question. Thank you for your help.
1570 [12:48:46] <shtrb> paule32 , never did a wan boot I don't know how it can work
1571 [12:48:54] <vegardx> PXE-booting machines require some control over the local network, amongst other other things.
1572 [12:49:09] <paule32> shtrb: i can't use private ip numbers like 192...
1573 [12:49:12] <shtrb> paule32, you need to BOOT to pass
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1575 [12:49:44] <paule32> vegardx: vpn ?
1576 [12:49:46] <shtrb> *BOOTP (for DHCP and others)
1577 [12:49:51] <vegardx> How will you connect via VPN?
1578 [12:49:58] <vegardx> You are at the very lowest level of booting.
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1580 [12:50:15] <shtrb> so I think what you would need to do , to setup initil install via netboot , then add your mirrors
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1582 [12:50:43] <rainbowtux> Hi all, I have a question concerning Debian packaging: if a config file is present in an older version but not in a newer version, what is the proper way to have it removed on update?
1583 [12:50:43] <paule32> i have download mirror ftp.us.debian.org
1584 [12:50:55] <shtrb> paule32 , how do you access the installation files ?
1585 [12:51:07] <paule32> html protocol
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1587 [12:51:20] <shtrb> paule32 , so why don't you just setup a PXE server and a local mirror
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1589 [12:51:24] <shtrb> html protocol ?!
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1591 [12:51:42] <paule32> wget
1592 [12:51:49] <shtrb> rainbowtux , a control file is needed for packaging
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1594 [12:52:44] <shtrb> ok .. .do yourself a favor , install locally using netboot and then add mirrors
1595 [12:53:00] <shtrb> *paule32 , I think it would be eaiser for you
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1597 [12:53:21] <paule32> the mirror lays on remote machine
1598 [12:53:30] <paule32> tftp-hp is running
1599 [12:54:21] <shtrb> how will your machine access that server ?
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1602 [12:54:40] <paule32> it is a vserver not root!
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1605 [12:54:59] <paule32> the vserver is a rented linux server by my provider
1606 [12:55:06] <shtrb> yes
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1608 [12:55:12] <vegardx> It could be in orgit and you still haven't answered his question.
1609 [12:55:25] <rainbowtux> shtrb: i know... i can build a package, but config files are not removed from the system if the newer version does not need that file anymore :/
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1612 [12:55:58] <paule32> i can browse the mirror copy per apache2
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1615 [12:56:33] <shtrb> yes , because you already have access to from your UE to a router , and from that router to the server
1616 [12:56:46] <vegardx> I think PXE / BOOTP is out of your scope, paule32.
1617 [12:56:49] <shtrb> during installation your UE need to connect directly to the server (via the router)
1618 [12:56:54] <paule32> like replaced-url
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1620 [12:57:35] <shtrb> the debian installer would need a way to connect to that server
1621 [12:57:48] <paule32> i have dsl connection at home
1622 [12:58:09] <shtrb> and your dsl router have a PXE setup ?
1623 [12:58:18] <vegardx> shtrb: I think you are being trolled.
1624 [12:58:20] <paule32> i have success install linux before, but not with my own server
1625 [12:58:28] <shtrb> vegardx , oh sorry
1626 [12:58:33] <paule32> no, i use virt-manager atm
1627 [12:58:34] <shtrb> vegarx , didn't catch that
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1629 [12:59:29] <paule32> i on my vserver per ssh, atm
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1638 [13:03:22] <darxmurf> hi all
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1651 [13:09:15] <shtrb> for any future person who would like to install debian from a PXE (tftp server) just setup a PXE server locally within your lan (not wlan but lan ) , that way your boot from network facility in your pc could interact with that server (for more info visit replaced-url
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1659 [13:13:05] <spleen> Hello All
1660 [13:13:31] <spleen> i need to source a file before start my systemd script. How could i do that ?
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1665 [13:15:06] <paule32> ok, now, it seems that i have the correct path
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1669 [13:15:28] <paule32> but getting the message "hvm kernel for debian not found"
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1681 [13:23:00] <bumbar_> "&> /dev/null" means to redirect all output ?
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1684 [13:24:45] <shtrb> bumbar_, no
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1686 [13:26:07] <shtrb> *only stdout
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1688 [13:27:53] <darxmurf> anybody is using samba with LDAP auth on MS Domain ?
1689 [13:28:18] <darxmurf> I just upgraded to samba 3.6.23-30 this morning and now it does not accept my "valid users" filter anymore :-/
1690 [13:28:34] <darxmurf> returning : [2016/05/09 13:09:51.232647, 3] ../libcli/security/dom_sid.c:208(dom_sid_parse_endp) string_to_sid: SID @your_group is not in a valid format
1691 [13:28:42] <jubo2> How do I check for Debian version ?
1692 [13:28:49] <jubo2> uname -a ?
1693 [13:28:54] <darxmurf> cat /etc/debian_version
1694 [13:29:01] <darxmurf> cat /etc/*release
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1696 [13:30:03] <jubo2> Seems to say 8
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1698 [13:30:08] <jubo2> but is it 8.4
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1701 [13:30:26] <jelly> !debian suite
1702 [13:30:26] <dpkg> cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions.
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1705 [13:31:16] <jelly> jubo2: if "cat /etc/debian_version" does not say "8.4" your system is not up-to-date with patches
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1711 [13:32:37] <jelly> darxmurf: which debian release did you find samba 3.6.23-30 in?
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1713 [13:33:06] <jubo2> ja ok is 8.4
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1721 [13:36:30] <darxmurf> jelly, it's a centos 6.7
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1724 [13:37:39] <darxmurf> (I know it's the wrong chan...:-/ )
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1734 [13:41:50] <zeta-> I've installed debian on old laptop that had a video card bug causing a hang. Now fixed Yeah!
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1736 [13:42:46] <zeta-> Unfortunately, Xfce has some panels missing -- and don't know what else ...
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1738 [13:44:27] <zeta-> I've tried dpkg-reconfigure, and tasksel to reinstall, but to no avail
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1740 [13:45:24] <zeta-> How do I get the desktop configured as a default installation?
1741 [13:47:01] <zeta-> I can create a few panels manually of course -- but I don't know what else might be needed
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1768 [13:58:57] <Psy-Q> on testing, mouse and touchpad behavior has changed completely (different acceleration, tap-to-click is no longer available). how can i find out which packages are involved in this?
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1777 [14:01:55] <jelly> !spank darxmurf
1778 [14:01:55] * dpkg bends darxmurf over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK*
1779 [14:02:12] <zeta-> Psy-Q: Yes, the Touchpad tab on Settings -> 'Mouse and touchpad' -> Devices is missing.
1780 [14:02:23] <darxmurf> <3
1781 [14:02:39] <darxmurf> rolling back this sh*t to see if it resolv the issue
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1783 [14:03:27] <Psy-Q> zeta-: i think not only that, i think the entire device is not detected correctly anymore
1784 [14:03:34] <Psy-Q> even with the default synaptics settings it used to be OK
1785 [14:03:43] <jubo2> anyone know how to list existing detached tmux sessions?
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1787 [14:03:53] <Psy-Q> but yeah, the GUI is missing elements too
1788 [14:03:57] <jubo2> coz I got the problem that there are more than one
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1791 [14:04:28] <jubo2> one is running GNU MediaGoblin but I'm looking to 'tmux at' to the other one running the diaspora* pod
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1797 [14:05:54] <Psy-Q> ah, if i set acceleration and sensitivity to 0 in the new GUI the mouse doesn't feel crappy anymore
1798 [14:06:08] <telecity> getty not started on a remote server, able to access via SSH, ps -ef reports no tty session.. how can I start getty?
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1803 [14:06:22] <teraflops> jubo2: sorry for asking, it's just curiosity you do run a mediagoblin instance via tmux? I mean, you don't have a service or whatever for doing it properly?
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1805 [14:06:45] <jubo2> teraflops: I not the texiest person alive
1806 [14:07:00] <jubo2> The instructions I was following told me to do it that way
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1808 [14:07:15] <teraflops> jubo2: wat!
1809 [14:07:21] <zeta-> Psy-Q: Yes, I still have 2 finger scrolling (also on that tab) but no tapping.
1810 [14:07:25] <jubo2> and I've been happy with running the diaspora* that way since July 2013
1811 [14:07:29] <telecity> in fact, any idea how can i kill all getty processes and prevent them from auto-respawning.. what causes them to respawn?
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1813 [14:08:37] <jubo2> teraflops: The GMG is a 0.8.0 and accidentally installed with SQLite instead of Postgres, contains one image and I gonna install clean the 0.9.0 that comes with python3 support
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1815 [14:09:05] <zeta-> Psy-Q: It's disappeared before, (on testing) but then comes back. Still dont know the pkg :-(
1816 [14:09:33] <Psy-Q> zeta-: ah, ok
1817 [14:09:42] <Psy-Q> hm. i shouldn't have gone to testing i guess
1818 [14:09:50] <Psy-Q> that'll be a lesson :)
1819 [14:10:09] <teraflops> jubo2: you can upgrade mg via git easy as hell. also you can do uwsgi r just a proper systemd sysvinit service. hell one thing is being stable and other is being lazy :P
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1821 [14:10:22] <zeta-> :-)
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1825 [14:12:35] <zeta-> Psy-Q: I don't think it's possible to get stable for a selection of pkgs
1826 [14:12:49] <Psy-Q> zeta-: i had a good run, have been stable since jessie's release
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1828 [14:13:12] <Psy-Q> but actually, i mostly just get firefox from experimental. i could probably live with jessie. newer kernels would sometimes be nice, but oh well
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1831 [14:15:03] <Psy-Q> aaah crap, and the droid fonts can't be installed anymore
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1834 [14:16:52] <teraflops> Psy-Q: you dont need to install a font package, just drop the files in ~/.local/share/fonts
1835 [14:17:20] <Psy-Q> teraflops: yeah, it was just so convenient to have a package
1836 [14:17:38] <Psy-Q> that way i can just install my package selections on another machine and use the dotfiles from my homedir and it all looks the same
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1838 [14:18:01] <Psy-Q> but seeing that google is not using Droid anymore either, i might as well go with Roboto or something
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1844 [14:19:29] <Psy-Q> or Noto, that looks nice IMHO
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1849 [14:21:17] <Psy-Q> the linux desktop 2016, still an adventure :D
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1890 [14:38:13] <NoCode> Hi. I followed: replaced-url
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1892 [14:38:52] <telecity> not really a debian issue
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1894 [14:39:31] <telecity> NoCode: nginx has a much simpler config, maybe try that instead of apache?
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1896 [14:39:56] <NoCode> what issue is it then?
1897 [14:40:10] <telecity> NoCode: configuration issue of 3rd party software
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1899 [14:40:27] <NoCode> Apache?
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1901 [14:40:38] <telecity> NoCode: yes
1902 [14:40:46] <jubo2> NoCode: Nginx has much more... flowy configuration syntax
1903 [14:40:52] <NoCode> Do you have a support number I can call?
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1906 [14:41:35] <jubo2> The Apache is yee trusty ole httpd but if no requirement to use it than Nginx is often convenient
1907 [14:41:41] <telecity> not even sure how to respond to that.. baffling
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1910 [14:42:26] <telecity> NoCode: this is a debian support channel, I doubt someone here provides phone support, this channel is 'as is' and mostly consisting out of volunteers throughout the world
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1912 [14:42:54] <teraflops> telecity: yeah that's a great advice, dont use apache because I have no idea of setting up vhosts go use nginx :S
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1914 [14:43:28] <NoCode> jubo2, I've never used Nginx. I installed Debian 8 image from my VPS. It installed Apache by default.
1915 [14:43:57] <telecity> teraflops: if you can't figure out how to configure a vhost you shouldn't even be configuring apache in the first place, as a novice
1916 [14:44:33] <teraflops> NoCode: internet is plenty of docummentation about setting up virtual hosts in apache. also in setting up dns records.
1917 [14:44:45] <Rudde> Is it possible to make a virtual interface on debian linked to a proxy server?
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1921 [14:45:12] <NoCode> I have experience with Apache. I just have a usecase. I've been able to set site.com as easy as 1-2-3. First time trying to set up a website.site.com
1922 [14:45:15] <teraflops> telecity: you are right but dont be so picky, he's looking for some directions
1923 [14:45:21] <jelly> NoCode: is your vhost supposed to be visible on the internet?
1924 [14:45:46] <NoCode> Yes it is supposed to be visible.
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1926 [14:46:26] <jelly> NoCode: okay, do the A and/or AAAA records for your vhost point to an IP address that apache running on your server is actually listening on?
1927 [14:46:27] <telecity> NoCode: ping it first = is it pingable?
1928 [14:46:50] <jelly> in other words, are you sure you've set up DNS correctly
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1930 [14:47:27] <jelly> if Chrome says there's a dns error, that can point to there being... a dns error
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1932 [14:47:31] <NoCode> I can't ping it.
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1934 [14:47:40] <telecity> teraflops: with nginx it's only a matter of editing the "server_name" directive and adding the vhost name, that's it.. it would work out of the box :)
1935 [14:47:47] <jelly> NoCode: what's the vhost name in question?
1936 [14:47:49] <telecity> teraflops: so in all honesty, I think that's not a bad advice
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1939 [14:48:09] <jelly> telecity: it's completely bad advice that ignores root cause analysis
1940 [14:48:11] <teraflops> NoCode: yeah first check if dns are ok. ping or host mysubdomain.whatever.com
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1942 [14:48:39] <teraflops> telecity: I switched to nginx time ago to be fair :P
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1945 [14:49:11] <NoCode> jelly, test.bytebind.com. I've set up the test.bytebind.com.conf. So I guess it's the configuration
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1947 [14:49:29] <NoCode> Or maybe not :P
1948 [14:49:31] <teraflops> NoCode: Host test.bytebind.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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1950 [14:50:05] <telecity> jelly: I was under the impression he had DNS in order, because he was asking specifically about apache, even with a link.. configuring vhosts on apache is more confusing, than on nginx
1951 [14:50:14] <jelly> NoCode: you need to add an A record for "test.bytebind.com."
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1954 [14:50:43] <teraflops> ... hmm or a CNAME
1955 [14:50:46] <NoCode> Okay. brb
1956 [14:50:55] <jelly> no, fuck cnames.
1957 [14:50:56] <dgriffi> what am I missing when I get complaints like this? /usr/include/linux/types.h:35:1: error: unknown type name ‘__u32’
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1962 [14:51:42] <telecity> look at bytebind.com
1963 [14:51:54] <telecity> a CNAME would work
1964 [14:52:00] <telecity> obviously a fresh install
1965 [14:52:11] <teraflops> telecity: yeah but jelly dislikes CNAMES :P
1966 [14:52:18] <telecity> ofcourse
1967 [14:52:54] <telecity> for totally sensible reasons
1968 [14:52:58] <telecity> .. not
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1974 [14:53:58] <teraflops> well A looks saner, CNAMES look like a dirty hack for doing subdomains
1975 [14:54:22] <telecity> if it's the same host?
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1977 [14:54:43] <telecity> if it's the same host = CNAME look saner
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1979 [14:55:07] <teraflops> hey I do cnames for different hosts even the certificates work ok :P
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1983 [14:57:00] <telecity> I wonder how do I kill getty
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2005 [15:03:48] <telecity> teraflops: what if I still have sysv?
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2031 [15:14:34] <spleen> Hello, i have an error with systemd script :
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2033 [15:14:39] <spleen> ExecStartPre=/bin/bash -c ulimit -n 20000
2034 [15:14:49] <spleen> is there something wrong ?
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2038 [15:15:20] <themill> that doesn't seem productive
2039 [15:15:21] <jelly> spleen: uh, if you want to set limits, use native systemd unit syntax
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2042 [15:16:32] <jelly> spleen: LimitNOFILE=... in the [service] section, probably
2043 [15:16:59] <jelly> as seen in systemd.exec(5) man page
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2047 [15:18:05] <jelly> spleen: are you customizing an existing service, which one?
2048 [15:18:25] <NoCode> hrm, would I be setting up the DNS "test.bytebind.com" on my domain's registrar site?
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2053 [15:19:40] <NoCode> Nevermind, I got it. It was well hidden
2054 [15:19:51] <jelly> NoCode: if the NS records for bytebind.com point to your registrar, most likely
2055 [15:20:21] <jelly> most registrars have some sort of dns hosting and a simple UI to enter common records
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2070 [15:27:17] <teraflops> telecity: no idea then :(. I have selective memory
2071 [15:27:43] <spleen> jelly, thank you a lot !
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2096 [15:35:53] <spleen> jelly, How could source a file with systemd ? i'd like call source /folder/MyFile
2097 [15:36:01] <spleen> ?
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2106 [15:42:17] <NoCode> hrm, I have name servers enabled on my current domain in my registrar, added a subdomain to it, but it does not give me any type of options to allow an A record because the 4 options for name servers from my VPS are there. :|
2107 [15:43:56] <jubo2> NoCode: You need to get straight do you want to keep the DNS at the registrar or at the VPS hosting guys
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2109 [15:44:36] <jubo2> Sounds to me like you are pointing to the DNS servers at your hosting guys instead of just using what the registrar provides
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2112 [15:47:05] <NoCode> If bytebind.com is using my VPS name servers, wouldn't I have to edit the A records for the sub domain? Or would I have ot edit the A records on the VPS?
2113 [15:47:16] <NoCode> I'm confused
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2121 [15:50:45] <caffeine> Hi, I just installed debian and have no audio. I installed pavucontrol, but that did not bring audio, I mucked with my system and now files will not even play
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2125 [15:51:23] <caffeine> I have an envy24 soundcard, before the audio deaulted to hdmi audio, so I blacklisted that
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2129 [15:52:12] <caffeine> I went into audio setup and selected the soundcard, but still no audio
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2136 [15:56:37] <zykotick9> caffeine: have you run "alsamixer" and unmuted yet?
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2139 [15:57:21] <caffeine> zykotick9, there is no alsamixer available
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2141 [15:57:49] <caffeine> zykotick9, "connection refused"
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2144 [15:58:08] <caffeine> zykotick9, That would be awesome if I could just run alsamixer
2145 [15:58:15] <zykotick9> caffeine: in that cae, i've got nothin' best of luck.
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2147 [15:59:10] <caffeine> Well, if audio files will not even play, there is an issue. These are flac files so I don't think it has to do with licensing
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2149 [15:59:18] <zykotick9> caffeine: <sidenote> debian does ship "muted" by default, and you'd _typically_ just use alsamixer to unmute... in your case???
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2153 [16:00:27] <caffeine> zykotick9, replaced-url
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2155 [16:00:36] <jelly> spleen: you wouldn't, systemd units are config files not shell.
2156 [16:00:45] <zykotick9> caffeine: sorry i don't go to pastebin.com... what is it?
2157 [16:01:05] <caffeine> zykotick9, What do you go into?
2158 [16:01:15] <zykotick9> paste.debian.net would work.
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2160 [16:02:12] <caffeine> zykotick9, replaced-url
2161 [16:02:16] <zykotick9> dpkg: tell caffeine about pastebin.com
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2163 [16:02:52] <spleen> jelly, i have some variables set in a "default" file. Orginally, no problem with init script.But how could i use this variable with systemd ?
2164 [16:02:53] <zykotick9> caffeine: sorry, i really don't have any suggestions at all... best of luck.
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2168 [16:03:49] <caffeine> It's a shame that audio does not work with debian
2169 [16:04:01] <caffeine> for some machines with some audio cards
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2171 [16:04:07] <caffeine> :-(
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2174 [16:04:23] <caffeine> The universal operating system
2175 [16:04:28] <zykotick9> caffeine: just because you and i don't know how, doesn't mean it doesn't...
2176 [16:04:30] <jelly> spleen: if it's just environment variables you want to set, I think there's syntax for that as well
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2179 [16:04:53] <caffeine> zykotick9, Well, maybe if we are RMS, it might worl
2180 [16:04:57] <caffeine> work
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2182 [16:05:22] <caffeine> We'd write the drivers for it
2183 [16:05:37] <jelly> spleen: man systemd.exec, again, look for Environment=
2184 [16:06:08] <jelly> caffeine: works for me!
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2186 [16:06:56] <caffeine> jelly, You have an ice24 sound card?
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2190 [16:07:50] <jelly> caffeine: nah, I use USB DAC stuff
2191 [16:07:51] <zykotick9> caffeine: is this a pci or usb sound card?
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2193 [16:08:08] <caffeine> zykotick9, PCI
2194 [16:08:13] <caffeine> Jelly is just troling
2195 [16:08:23] <caffeine> ; - b
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2197 [16:08:47] <jelly> it's as much a trolling as "<caffeine> It's a shame that audio does not work with debian"
2198 [16:08:55] <caffeine> jelly, goes to Stephen Hawking and points at his own legs "works for me!"
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2200 [16:09:23] <zykotick9> caffeine: does "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" show you card? if so, what is the pciid (looks like [8086:293e])
2201 [16:09:36] <jelly> caffeine: incidentally you want to run alsamixer as the user that logged in, not root
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2204 [16:10:27] <caffeine> Well, things got a little more complicated,. audio files will not even play
2205 [16:10:44] <caffeine> Whereas at fresh install they played
2206 [16:11:02] <caffeine> but no sound
2207 [16:11:50] <caffeine> Too much configurin'
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2217 [16:15:47] <xcel> isnt ansiweather default package in raspberrypi?
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2228 [16:18:15] <teraflops> xcel: is raspberry pi a linux distro?
2229 [16:19:01] <xcel> raspbian
2230 [16:19:03] <xcel> sorry
2231 [16:19:03] <xcel> lol
2232 [16:20:35] <jelly> xcel: you'll want to ask in #raspbian, about the contents of their distro
2233 [16:21:36] <jelly> we're not aware of their installation contents or the full set of differences between debian and raspbian
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2236 [16:23:07] <xcel> i see
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2245 [16:26:14] <NoCode> Would I be setting up a rDNS name for setting up a subdomain?
2246 [16:26:25] <telecity> NoCode: no
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2249 [16:27:48] <telecity> NoCode: your domain's SOA is with ramnode
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2253 [16:28:55] <telecity> NoCode: bytebind is not using your VPS name servers.. it uses the name servers of the ISP of your VPS
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2258 [16:30:07] <telecity> NoCode: just login to your ramnode cp and configure the dns there, create either a subdomain (test.bytebind.com) with A record and point it to 168.235.68.125 OR create a CNAME pointing to bytebind.com
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2265 [16:32:09] <telecity> NoCode: to see if it works just ping test.bytebind.com once everything has been created
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2274 [16:34:09] <Psy-Q> i'm using firefox from replaced-url
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2278 [16:35:41] <telecity> Psy-Q: removing unstable as a source after installation?
2279 [16:35:56] <teraflops> You added unstable to mozilla repo or to the debian ones?
2280 [16:36:01] <Psy-Q> telecity: and re-enable every time a firefox update comes out?
2281 [16:36:19] <Psy-Q> teraflops: to the debian one like the mozilla team says to do
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2283 [16:36:35] <Psy-Q> the mozilla *debian* team i mean :) or the debian mozilla team
2284 [16:36:42] <Psy-Q> actually, the debian mozilla team :)
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2286 [16:37:01] <teraflops> Are you sure they say so?
2287 [16:37:52] <teraflops> Psy-Q: there's a mozilla.debian.net repo if I remember it correctly
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2290 [16:38:01] <Psy-Q> teraflops: it's right there on their page, yes: replaced-url
2291 [16:38:10] <Psy-Q> "You need to add the following entry in /etc/apt/sources.list or a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/:"
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2293 [16:38:42] <Psy-Q> i've now pinned firefox to unstable and the rest to testing, but since debian discourages pinning i'm not sure this is so great
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2296 [16:40:12] <teraflops> Psy-Q: I read I run <list> I want to install <list>
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2300 [16:40:45] <Psy-Q> teraflops: yeah, for testing and release i need to add unstable
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2303 [16:41:04] <teraflops> No
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2307 [16:41:44] <teraflops> You need Jessie backports from mozilla repos
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2310 [16:42:04] <Psy-Q> teraflops: that's not what it tells me: replaced-url
2311 [16:42:11] <teraflops> Psy-Q: wait are you in debian etch?
2312 [16:42:17] <Psy-Q> why would i need jessie backports on testing?
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2314 [16:43:25] <teraflops> Psy-Q: ah fair enough, but why do you ask this in a debian stable support channel?
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2318 [16:45:25] <Psy-Q> teraflops: ah, ok, i thought it was debian in general. i did say testing though in the first comment
2319 [16:45:31] <Psy-Q> will ask on #debian-next then
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2321 [16:45:42] <Psy-Q> aah, i can't. it's invite only
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2326 [16:47:50] <themill> Psy-Q: wrong network
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2328 [16:47:55] <Psy-Q> ah crap
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2338 [16:50:44] <teraflops> Psy-Q: yeah sorry I didnt read the testing bit
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2365 [17:03:34] <simonpatapon> hi
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2372 [17:06:17] <simonpatapon> I cant seem to be able to remove strict standard errors output in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
2373 [17:06:35] <simonpatapon> i edited it, rebooted and still see the error on the website
2374 [17:07:16] <zq> so i've noticed that every now and then, my hostname is changed after requesting a dhcp address from my router. is there a way to prevent this?
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2378 [17:08:13] <NoCode> telecity, Alright getting somewhere. Now I have to re-create my subdomains on my server since I removed the /var/replaced-url
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2383 [17:10:25] <Psy-Q> teraflops: it seems the preferred way nowadays to do what i was looking for is the apt Default-Release preference
2384 [17:10:29] <Psy-Q> instead of pinning
2385 [17:10:35] <Psy-Q> so all is well. in case anyone else needs to do the same :)
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2387 [17:12:04] <NoCode> After I configured the virtualhosts, I removed them. removed the sites-available configuration file, and the directory out of /var/replaced-url
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2397 [17:16:55] <qqz> grub-legacy complains: "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x83" in spite of me having loaded the iso9660 file system
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2419 [17:29:30] <incal> I have an Aiptek PocketCinema A100W, anyone knows how to get it to work on Debian? It is HDMI, the computer is VGA, with an adapter in between
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2421 [17:30:47] <qqz> VGA->HDMI converters exist but they are often incompatible and produce images of poor quality
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2423 [17:30:53] <qqz> ask at #hardware or so
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2425 [17:31:36] <styks1987> anyone have a quick sendmail replacement for sending any email to a single address for testing? Similar to mailhog but actually sending the email to a single address
2426 [17:31:55] <incal> OK, so you think the projector works plug-and-play only the converter screws it up?
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2433 [17:32:50] <incal> I have used this converter with another projector and it worked, same computer, doesn't say it should this time as well tho - drivers etc. in place?
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2448 [17:36:49] <qqz> yes most time the converter fails
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2450 [17:37:16] <incal> thx will try another computer with HDMI
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2452 [17:37:23] <Doyle> Hey. I'm noticing duplicate logs going to user.log and syslog. Where is this defined?
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2467 [17:42:35] <introom> how can I download this package by means of http?
2468 [17:42:36] <introom> replaced-url
2469 [17:42:47] <introom> I don't want the source. I want the pdf.
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2472 [17:44:03] <keltim> styks1987, ssmtp works well
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2474 [17:44:41] <keltim> Doyle, rsyslog.conf
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2479 [17:45:43] <keltim> Doyle, notice user.* goes to user.log, *.* goes to /var/log/syslog
2480 [17:45:43] <Doyle> Thanks keltim, does user.log usually duplicate syslog?
2481 [17:45:56] <keltim> Doyle, yes, here it is intentional
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2483 [17:46:52] <Doyle> What's the best approach for handing server logs that are hitting both, say from mesos?
2484 [17:47:17] <keltim> Doyle, you mean consuming both? and getting dupe messages?
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2486 [17:47:29] <Doyle> getting dupe messages
2487 [17:47:42] <Doyle> well, the same logs are hitting each file
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2490 [17:48:25] <keltim> well, you could remove the rsyslog configuration that duplicates messages, or not include those log file for consumption by your log system
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2493 [17:49:44] <Doyle> Thanks keltim, time to refresh my rsyslog rules know-how.
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2505 [17:52:15] <arinov> hi
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2508 [17:52:41] <Iridos> is there something in gnome-terminal to save the content of the terminal to a file?
2509 [17:52:49] <arinov> what is the default credentials for livecd-standard?
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2519 [17:56:41] <Iridos> dpkg, live login
2520 [17:56:42] <dpkg> The debian-live images for Debian 8 "Jessie" have a user account configured for you to use. username: user ; password: live
2521 [17:56:42] <arinov> my disk was drop me into a TTY1 and i can't find any information about default login in the FAQ page
2522 [17:56:53] <arinov> ok thanks
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2526 [17:57:39] <Iridos> couldn't find the factoid... too much stuff with "live" in it... and yeah, couldn't really find it quickly on the net either
2527 [17:58:42] <arinov> should standard live image run GUI or it is teminal based only?
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2531 [17:59:45] <styks1987> keltim: this looks close to what I want, however, I cannot determine how to make it only send to a single address. From what I read, I should be able to set root to an email address and all email should go there?
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2539 [18:02:17] <Iridos> arinov, don't know. on irc.oftc.net, there is a channel #debian-live. There's only ~80 people, so maybe nobody's around, but if there is, you likely get better answers
2540 [18:02:50] <arinov> Iridos: understood
2541 [18:03:00] <arinov> Iridos: whats here?
2542 [18:04:08] <Iridos> asking debian-live stuff here is ok, but most people probably just use a regular debian install
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2548 [18:05:32] <jair> Hello hello... I am having an issue with VLC 2.2.2 opening up the movies in full screen, should I look for another channel? #vlc?
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2550 [18:05:59] <Iridos> hell... seems gnome-shell doesn't allow to save to a file directly, then... I tried to copy&paste the stuff out into a vi... the cp&paste is running since I asked!
2551 [18:06:19] <jair> I already try a lot of settings from the VLC forums and nothing... I wonder if the people from #ubuntu or #mint might have an idea...
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2569 [18:13:23] <donald> hello every time then I send gpg --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --list-key x to get a key that I have got from gpg --keyid-format long --list-sigs A490D0F4D311A4153E2BB7CADBB802B258ACD84F (the Tails identifient) I alway get "gpg: error reading key: public key not found"
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2576 [18:17:50] <ays> is there a "physics dictionary" in debian?
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2581 [18:18:28] <donald> do you mean with static content from the hard disk?
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2586 [18:20:26] <ays> donald : yes, I mean local content
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2602 [18:25:20] <sarkis> is it possible to set: -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" globally?
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2605 [18:25:42] <sarkis> i assumed it's possible in apt.conf? but Dpkg::Options - maybe this is not apt but dpkg :D
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2607 [18:25:54] <sarkis> not sure if theres a dpkg global cojnf
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2610 [18:26:55] <kayhayen> Hello there, I am on a relatively fresh Stretch install, with gdm3, and right after boot, it will show a power button icon, but no options there
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2612 [18:27:16] <kayhayen> any idea how systemd and gdm3 agree on who is in charge
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2615 [18:28:20] <kayhayen> and then, when powerbutton hibernates with a user locked in, after resume, BIOS and Grub2 habe no keyboard control. Plus power on via keyboard happens despite being disabled in BIOS. How is that even possible.
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2617 [18:30:20] <Iridos> kayhayen, guess things being wrong is normal for testing... speak with #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, that focuses on testing/unstable systems
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2619 [18:30:59] <kayhayen> I see, thanks for the pointer Iridos
2620 [18:31:34] <kayhayen> seems it takes an invivitation to enter debian-next :)
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2622 [18:31:54] <greycat> No, it takes being on the correct network.
2623 [18:31:54] <Iridos> you might try reading my sentence until the end
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2625 [18:32:08] <greycat> !debian-next
2626 [18:32:08] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2627 [18:32:11] <kayhayen> You mean, I need to go to that precise server too.
2628 [18:32:40] <Iridos> this here is freenode, most official debian channels are on irc.oftc.net
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2633 [18:33:44] <leba2> Do you think samba4.2 badlock fixes have been already pushed to debian jessie repos?
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2635 [18:34:05] <leba2> *recent badlock fixes
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2637 [18:34:13] <greycat> Is there a debian bug report for it?
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2641 [18:35:18] <kayhayen> thanks for the pointer again, bye
2642 [18:35:21] <leba2> greycat: no idea! But the recent badlock issue was everything but false: replaced-url
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2644 [18:35:31] <dax> leba2: yes, it's fixed in jessie-security, replaced-url
2645 [18:35:32] <leba2> And I'd like to use debian for an ad dc...
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2647 [18:36:23] <greycat> Oh, if "badlock" is a security hole and not just a bug then it should get fixed very quickly. If not already.
2648 [18:36:31] <leba2> dax: so it's just a matter of running a software update in debian? Or even just installing samba4.2 if starting a fresh debian install?
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2650 [18:36:39] <leba2> Ah, thanks.
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2652 [18:36:48] <dax> leba2: assuming you don't disable jessie-security, yes
2653 [18:37:09] <leba2> jessie-security comes enabled by default, right?
2654 [18:37:16] <dax> yes
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2658 [18:37:39] <greycat> replaced-url
2659 [18:37:55] <greycat> This was fixed by the 4.2 push-out, allegedly.
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2662 [18:38:45] <introom> anso I installed the 'dh-make'
2663 [18:38:48] <Iridos> didn't one of the bots have a cve command/factoid that'd show the title and produce the link?
2664 [18:38:49] <introom> but command not found.
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2666 [18:39:28] <greycat> Probably.
2667 [18:39:36] <greycat> judd help
2668 [18:39:37] <judd> (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
2669 [18:39:42] <greycat> *sigh*
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2675 [18:40:53] <Vanfanel> Hi. Do you know what kernel configuration setting could I check if my Debian system is ignoring /etc/security/limits.conf?
2676 [18:40:54] <jernest> Can anyone tell me what steps I need to take in order to get the package "sudo apt-get install bluez" getting the source, and recompiling it the way Raspbian did for 5.23? I run sudo apt-get source --compile bluez, then I try to dpkg -i each .deb, but it says it's downgrading 5.23_2+rpi to 5.23_2 and then breaks my bluetooth.
2677 [18:41:15] <greycat> Vanfanel: that has *nothing* to do with the kernel. It's enforced by PAM in userspace only on services so marked in your PAM conf.
2678 [18:41:17] <leba2> Oohhh
2679 [18:41:22] <leba2> Heil debian.
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2683 [18:41:47] <jernest> Also if I try just compiling any version of Bluez 5.23 and above up to 5.39 from a tarball and installing it still breaks my bluetooth (bdaddr AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA)
2684 [18:42:21] <Vanfanel> greycat: are you sure? I have two kernels here, both using the same rootfs, one takes the limits.conf into account and the other ignores it
2685 [18:42:39] <jernest> I've been on this for a few days and am extremely frustrated someone please help.
2686 [18:42:45] <greycat> Vanfanel: it's enforced by pam_limits
2687 [18:42:56] <Iridos> don't think it was judd... at least don't see anything there (it's "list" - or likely "list Judd" because it should be one of the judd-specific plugins)
2688 [18:42:56] <greycat> grep -r pam_limits /etc/pam*
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2693 [18:44:27] <Vanfanel> greycat: replaced-url
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2695 [18:44:58] <Vanfanel> greycat: seems ok to me
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2697 [18:45:13] <greycat> Yes, right, so *those* are the userspace services/programs that enforce pam_limits. Nothing else.
2698 [18:45:26] <Vanfanel> in fact it works with the stock kernel but not with my custom kernel
2699 [18:45:43] <greycat> WHAT works? WHAT doesn't work?
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2701 [18:46:28] <Vanfanel> greycat: setting an unlimited ammount of memory to max memory lock, for example
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2704 [18:47:18] <greycat> In what program? How did you execute the program? What other resource limit changes might be affecting the program before you query it? How do you know the limit is not what you wanted?
2705 [18:47:32] <Iridos> jernest, how are we supposed to know "the way Raspbian did" change a package? If you want to modify a debian package, you can do that by running dpkg-buildpackage -uc inside the tree
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2708 [18:48:03] <jernest> I'm not asking specifically how to build it, just how to recreate the steps to build
2709 [18:48:06] <Iridos> jernest, if you do apt-get -b source xxx, apt will always do the whole unpack/patch/compile thing and any modification is lost
2710 [18:48:12] <greycat> jernest: /msg dpkg source
2711 [18:48:42] <jernest> Long story short I need to make some modifications to the Gatt server inside of Bluez, and it's compiled in as a "plugin"
2712 [18:48:57] <greycat> extract the debianized source, make your modifications, build the debs
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2715 [18:49:28] <jernest> but I have to do it whatever way they do it because some patches are apparently applied and some other commands that are different from the original source of Bluez to get it working on the Raspberry Pi 3.
2716 [18:49:32] <Vanfanel> greycat: wait wait wait... I am totally stupid. It DOES modify the memory lock max. But it's though ssh that I get: max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64
2717 [18:49:44] <Vanfanel> greycat: I am using simply ulimit -l
2718 [18:50:17] <Vanfanel> greycat: so these limits in limits.conf are not applicable if I log in using ssh?
2719 [18:50:28] <greycat> Double-check that your /etc/pam.d/sshd is set correctly, restart ssh if necessary, and make sure none of your SHELL DOT FILES are overriding the limit.
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2721 [18:50:50] <greycat> You might be doing a ulimit command in ~/.bash_profile or something, which would decrease the limit.
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2723 [18:51:34] <jernest> Iridos: If I understand you right, I can't run apt-get -b source bluez and then just modify the files, recompile and build?
2724 [18:51:48] <greycat> You can, but the rebuild step would not be done with apt-get.
2725 [18:51:54] <jernest> Sorry I'm kind of new at this, just got the basics down
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2727 [18:52:44] <jernest> How would I make changes to the source and then have it rebuilt the apt-get why?
2728 [18:52:46] <jernest> *way
2729 [18:52:55] <greycat> jernest: /msg dpkg source
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2732 [18:53:00] <jernest> I did
2733 [18:53:22] <greycat> Continue asking it things, as indicated by the <triggers> in <angle brackets>.
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2735 [18:53:41] <jernest> I tried those steps, just need to know what to do after it creates the .deb files (there were many)
2736 [18:53:59] <jernest> doing dpkg -i on all of them didn't get the desired result
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2740 [18:55:18] <greycat> The most likely issue is that you forgot to edit the changes file, so it didn't actually build a new version.
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2742 [18:55:38] <greycat> changelist, changes, changes.Debian, whatever it is. I don't have one handy.
2743 [18:55:44] <greycat> !dcl
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2750 [18:58:41] <jernest> I looked at package recompile but it did steps I already tried and didn't work. Originally I tried sudo apt-get source bluez. Then I cd'd into the dir and ran debian/rules, and it says libbluetooth.so.3 was missing.
2751 [18:59:02] <greycat> Then how did it build the .deb files?
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2753 [18:59:18] <jernest> So, I went back and ran sudo apt-get source --compile bluez, and it went all the way through and patched some files, then did the build, and generated some .deb files
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2757 [19:00:12] <jernest> So I tried doing dpkg -i on each package it built (there were several like bluez, libbluetooth, etc), and it said downgrading 5.23_2+rpi to 5.23_2
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2759 [19:00:54] <jernest> Then on reboot the bluetooth adapter wouldn't work (bdaddr AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA), so I ran sudo apt-get remove bluez, then sudo apt-get install bluez, then sudo reboot, and bluetooth was back
2760 [19:00:57] <greycat> Redoing apt-get source blew away your changes, or at best it gave you the original debs back in a different hierarchy.
2761 [19:01:05] <greycat> Why are you not able to understand this?
2762 [19:01:27] <Putti> I want to cross compile arm code on x86 but I am missing glibc. Does someone know if I can download glibc for cross compiling purposes in debian jessie or is it only in sid?
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2765 [19:02:03] <jernest> Why? Because I haven't MADE any changes yet, I'm just getting it to compile first so I can ensure that what I'm building is the same as what was released. So that once I know that THAT is working, I can make changes and rebuild so I can modify the Gatt server.
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2769 [19:03:05] <jernest> It makes no sense for me to make a whole bunch of changes to something that's not even working, so the source needs to compile, and install, EXACTLY the same way that sudo apt-get install does.
2770 [19:03:05] <Iridos> jernest, the 5.23_2+rpi sounds a lot like a raspberry pi package... if we're not talking about debian you should ask #raspberrypi
2771 [19:03:11] <greycat> !dch
2772 [19:03:12] <dpkg> well, dch is a tool from the <devscripts> package that is used to manipulate changelog entries in Debian source packages. It helps get the formatting right in the changelog entry and opens the changelog in your chosen editor. dch can set versions, target releases, add template information for closing bugs, etc. It's also known as "debchange".
2773 [19:03:34] <jernest> That's what installs apparently when I type sudo apt-get install bluez
2774 [19:03:43] <greycat> ,v bluez
2775 [19:03:44] <judd> Package: bluez on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.66-3; wheezy: 4.99-2; jessie: 5.23-2+b1; sid: 5.36-1; stretch: 5.36-1
2776 [19:03:58] <jernest> ok and I've asked and nobody in #raspbian knows anything about installing from source, apparently...
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2779 [19:04:16] <jernest> This is frustration as hell just trying to get some help with getting a package compiled.
2780 [19:04:22] <Vanfanel> greycat: the probem is that this system uses dropbear, not sshd, so what file should I check to try the limits.conf settings to be applied to ssh logins?
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2784 [19:04:58] <greycat> Vanfanel: you would probably have to create a dropbear pam config, assuming dropbear is actually linked with libpam, which it might not be. I don't know.
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2786 [19:05:26] <Iridos> but we don't know about what raspbian did to their packages... and so we can (and want to) only answer questions for issues on debian systems here
2787 [19:05:41] <Vanfanel> greycat: thanks for the ideas anyway, I will check if it's linked or not :)
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2789 [19:06:36] <jernest> I have no idea what all they've done, but whatever they've done, it runs when I do "sudo apt-get install bluez."
2790 [19:06:51] <Iridos> that's the binary package
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2792 [19:06:57] <jernest> So in theory, if I get "sudo apt-get source bluez" like I've done, shouldn't it have the same files?
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2795 [19:07:09] <jernest> And if not, how do I go about getting the files?
2796 [19:07:15] <jernest> I have no clue
2797 [19:07:26] <Iridos> and for debian packages I've never seen the case that recompiling from source with apt-get -b source xxx produces anything different
2798 [19:08:35] <jernest> well I didn't try with -b I did --compile, which was my whole entire question in the first place of what happens behind the scenes when you run -b vs. --compile, apparently it's more than just dpkg -i so it would seem.
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2801 [19:09:11] <Iridos> of course it is
2802 [19:09:32] <jernest> So yes maybe they did do some things, but how in the hell do I find out? Nobody seems to know.
2803 [19:09:35] <greycat> jernest: *plonk*
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2805 [19:09:48] <greycat> Off topic, does not read answers, does not apply knowledge given.
2806 [19:09:49] <Iridos> making and installing a .deb file isn't the same... that's why you tried to install it afterwards
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2811 [19:10:52] <jernest> Yeah because it seemed like it would be a logical course of action to do step 1 before step 2, that is, make sure it compiles, then once that's done make sure it builds
2812 [19:11:15] <jernest> I can run the -b and that's fine, but didn't you guys say earlier that it would overwrite any changes I will potentially make anyway?
2813 [19:11:40] <Iridos> -b, --compile, --build are synonyms according to the man-page
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2815 [19:12:05] <Iridos> yes, and I also told you what to do instead so that changes don't get overwritten
2816 [19:12:21] <Iridos> anyway, it's offtopic here, ask #raspbian
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2819 [19:13:17] <jernest> I asked in #raspbian
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2822 [19:13:48] <Iridos> that doesn't make it on-topic here
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2824 [19:14:00] <H4ndy> I just read about the problem with entropy on headless servers after seeing that my pool is pretty much below 100 all the time regarind to netdata
2825 [19:14:04] <jernest> I don't see a message with you telling me what to do so the changes won't be overwritten, what is that again?
2826 [19:14:10] <H4ndy> is haveged still the way to go?`
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2828 [19:14:29] <H4ndy> *regarding to
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2830 [19:14:42] <panjim> anyone has rooted any phone?
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2833 [19:15:01] <H4ndy> I used to until Android 5 hit
2834 [19:15:08] <H4ndy> dont need it anymore since then
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2836 [19:15:47] <jernest> Let me try rephrasing this a different way.
2837 [19:16:06] <jelly> H4ndy: haveged is a decent workaround, yes
2838 [19:16:13] <jernest> If I've built a package with --compile (or -b, or whatever), what do I do with it next to install?
2839 [19:16:42] <H4ndy> jelly: thanks. It seems to work as intended, was just curious
2840 [19:16:44] <jernest> I tried dpkg -i on each package and I did not get the same result as I did running sudo apt-get install bluez
2841 [19:16:46] <panjim> which hardwarefeatures gets unlocked after rooting a phone?
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2844 [19:17:46] <jelly> H4ndy: ubuntu have an interesting setup with a remote daemon providing entropy and a client that works early in userspace, but I forget the name
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2850 [19:18:40] <jelly> panjim: this doesn't sound like a Debian-specific issue, and this channel is for questions about debian. You may want to find an android or iOS channel instead
2851 [19:18:54] <panjim> ok thank jelly
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2853 [19:19:03] <Iridos> jernest, " If you want to modify a debian package, you can do that by running dpkg-buildpackage -uc inside the tree"
2854 [19:19:22] <jernest> Oh let me explain on that one
2855 [19:20:14] <Iridos> jernest, no. go to #raspian or look at their wiki. it's offtopic here (and rather pointless)
2856 [19:20:14] <jernest> I tried that earlier and had some issues both with running dpkg-buildpackage -uc in the tree and also running debian/rules binary it gave me some error about libbluetooth.so.3 being missing
2857 [19:20:20] <jelly> panjim: you can search channels on freenode (this irc network) by asking a bot, eg: /msg alis list *android* -min 100
2858 [19:20:49] <jernest> Alright, I'm getting out of your hair since you guys don't know anything
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2860 [19:20:54] <panjim> yeah i love that command jelly
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2864 [19:21:34] <jelly> panjim: you'll find there's a very specific #android-root channel, in this case
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2866 [19:22:20] <panjim> yeah i found it thanks jelly
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2900 [19:36:12] <kirkland> jelly: the client is pollinate, the server is pollen, which is hosted at entropy.ubuntu.com
2901 [19:36:36] <kirkland> jelly: it's only really for improving the initial prng seed, rather than ongoing entropy
2902 [19:36:57] <kirkland> jelly: H4ndy: details at replaced-url
2903 [19:37:15] <H4ndy> thanks a lot
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2916 [19:43:41] <gluon> i wonder what frontend people use more these days as users: the older lower level apt-get/cache, apt or aptitude?
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2919 [19:44:32] <abrotman> depends on needs
2920 [19:44:37] <ipatrol> gluon: I use aptitude, though I suspect a lot of commands are run as apt-get because most online instructions are written that way
2921 [19:44:57] <greycat> I still use apt-cache/apt-get because that's what I learned.
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2924 [19:45:12] <telecity> I'm an apt-get-er as well
2925 [19:45:37] <gluon> i used apt-get for a long long time but i've been trying apt recently
2926 [19:45:44] <gluon> it does it job well too
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2928 [19:46:28] <telecity> what made you switch
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2930 [19:46:37] <H4ndy> I switched to "apt" with Jessie, it much easier on the command line with inline scrolling and progress
2931 [19:46:45] <H4ndy> and pretty much works like apt-get
2932 [19:47:00] <H4ndy> I always felt aptitude to be really hard to navigate
2933 [19:47:21] <gluon> same reasons as H4ndy
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2937 [19:48:05] <Cyoux> Hi, I have a MacBook Pro with Jessie and kernel 4.4 from backports. When I insert a SD-Card it is not detected. No sign in /var/log/messages or syslog. There is only /dev/sda(1-3). Where could I start looking?
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2940 [19:48:36] <gluon> and also because apt upgrade is more convenient than apt-get dist-upgrade –with-new-pkgs
2941 [19:48:43] <gluon> but yeah, small details
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2945 [19:49:14] <H4ndy> the first thing I do tho is setting alias aptlist='apt list --upgradable' ^
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2948 [19:49:29] <gluon> hehe handy one H4ndy
2949 [19:49:30] <H4ndy> the command is so... clunky
2950 [19:49:59] * H4ndy sees what you did there
2951 [19:50:04] <gluon> :D
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2976 [19:56:41] <panjim> whcih server software do yuou use from phone?
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2984 [20:00:12] <Putti> Is it still possible to boot debian without initramfs/initrd? If so, how?
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2988 [20:01:07] <Putti> I mean I tried init=/bin/bash on grub menu but didn't seem to work
2989 [20:01:22] <jelly> Putti: custom kernel with all the drivers and probably not with systemd
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2991 [20:01:49] <jelly> haven't really tried it since... squeeze or so
2992 [20:01:54] <Putti> jelly, okay, thanks! :)
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2994 [20:02:15] <jelly> "why"
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2996 [20:02:29] <Putti> because it would be cool xD
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3005 [20:04:04] <jelly> we've been there. initrd is a lot more cool
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3010 [20:06:41] <Devastator> This is probably not the right channel to ask, but I'm trying to learn KVM and for that I'm installing Debian 8.4 from scratch on a computer and I wonder if I need some special partition scheme for that
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3012 [20:07:01] <Devastator> unfortunately #kvm is rather silent..
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3015 [20:08:03] <Putti> Devastator, maybe the wiki page will also help you: replaced-url
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3017 [20:09:32] <jmcnaught> Devastator: you don't need a special partition scheme for the host OS, but it can be useful. If you are using libvirt the default place it will put VM image files is /var/lib/libvirt/images/ (so you could simply make sure there is lots of room there). I like to have a separate LVM volume group for libvirt, and each VM gets a logical volume as its "image"
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3028 [20:12:36] <Devastator> Putti, jmcnaught thanks!
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3030 [20:12:51] <NoCode> "Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory" when restarting apache. Any ideas?
3031 [20:13:05] <NoCode> Used systemctl apache restart
3032 [20:13:12] <awwal> Looking for a word processor alternative. Apart libreoffice, abiword, texlive stuff and calligra, is there any lightweight pkg (just word)?
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3035 [20:13:35] <Devastator> jmcnaught so "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" would be my pick, right?
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3045 [20:15:31] <jmcnaught> Devastator: it could be, but that would set you up with a single volume group using all of the space available on the drive. libvirt *can* use the VG of the host OS as a storage pool, but my preference is for it to have a separate VG
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3047 [20:16:32] <Devastator> jmcnaught "Guided - use entire disk" then?
3048 [20:16:45] <Devastator> jmcnaught sorry, I'm a bit lost here hehe
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3059 [20:18:54] <jmcnaught> Devastator: that would use the entire disk without LVM. If you're new to LVM you may want to read [1]. How many disks does the computer have? If you only have one, you may want to partition it into two LVM physical volumes, one each for the host volume group and libvirt volume group. [1] replaced-url
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3065 [20:19:34] <Devastator> jmcnaught thank you sir, yes, I'm new to LVM
3066 [20:19:47] <Devastator> reading your link as we speak
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3068 [20:20:36] <Devastator> jmcnaught the computer has only one disk, yes, so I think "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" is the right pick here, no?
3069 [20:20:37] <HarveyPwca> awwal: How "light" do you want it to be? I rarely use anything except a text editor myself.
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3072 [20:22:05] <jmcnaught> Devastator: although that is from RHEL most of it is relevant to Jessie. If you're new to LVM simply using image files and making sure there is lots of room in /var/lib/libvirt/images (which would be the case for "Guided ... LVM") is probably fine
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3077 [20:23:06] <jmcnaught> Devastator: then you can learn LVM using virtual machines, and if you decide it's useful you can always add a new HDD and use it for a new LVM volume group for your libvirt VMs
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3085 [20:24:34] <awwal> HarveyPwca, lighter then abiword , lol. Seems that there is no a real alternative to the pkgs I listed. So what you do if you want a word document(odf/microsoft)? plain text and export to word using extra tools?
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3090 [20:25:28] <Kentsfield> Hello guys, I have a question... I am a bit worried that my system/network has been "hacked"
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3093 [20:26:13] <Kentsfield> I have a 19" server with debian jessie, which I installed only 2 weeks ago. There was not much installed afterwards, screen, a gameserver and so on. But nothing which could be a big deal, you know
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3095 [20:26:51] <HarveyPwca> If someone sends me a $M document I either convert it to pdf and use evince to view it or I open it in Abiword. Depends really on who is sending the document to me and whether I can trust them.
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3097 [20:26:54] <Devastator> jmcnaught ok, it allowed me to separate /home, /var and /tmp into different partitions, HDD size is 500GB, /home is with 478.9GB, / is with 9GB, swap 8.6GB, /tmp with 398.5MB, /var with 3GB, /boot with 254.8MB, should I edit it to give /var more space?
3098 [20:26:56] <Kentsfield> since the server stands in another room, I use the IPMI interface to start/shutdown the server. And I am pretty sure that I shut it down the last time I used it. Today I got home and found the server _running_...
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3100 [20:27:10] <jmcnaught> awwal: abiword *is* really light in my experience. i have run it on an openmoko with 400 MHz ARM and 128 MB of RAM
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3102 [20:28:06] <Kentsfield> uptime 4 days. But what really worries me, is that theres a pid called "exim4" running. I googled a bit and found out, that exim4 is a mail tool, which I definetly didn't install.
3103 [20:28:16] <jmcnaught> Devastator: just use "all in one partition". do you have a special reason to need it divided up like that. it's pretty common to see people divide it up and then run into problems later one because something is too small
3104 [20:28:21] <HarveyPwca> If someone needs something from me I send it as a pdf file.
3105 [20:28:29] <markybob> Kentsfield: exim is installed by default.
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3107 [20:28:39] <Kentsfield> ah okay... phew, that really helps
3108 [20:28:45] <awwal> jmcnaught, right, and I have it; just wanted to try something different...
3109 [20:28:46] <Kentsfield> I was not sure if exim is installed by default.
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3113 [20:29:18] <Cyoux> Kentsfield, I recommend reading the "Debian Administrators Handbook"
3114 [20:29:21] <jelly> Kentsfield: if you chose the server task in the installer, it would have gotten installed then
3115 [20:29:21] <Kentsfield> it was just strange, that it was running as a deamon with the parameters exim4 -bd -q30m. I never started it.
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3117 [20:29:44] <jelly> Kentsfield: you also have a dozen other daemons running
3118 [20:29:46] <markybob> Kentsfield: you don't need to start it. it starts by default
3119 [20:29:46] <Devastator> jmcnaught well, I usually separate /home, so if system borks I can probably mount /home on the new system, assuming it was not a hardware (HDD) problem
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3121 [20:30:15] <jelly> Kentsfield: systemd, atd, crond, rsyslog, sshd very likely...
3122 [20:30:43] <Kentsfield> I do. First - Thanks for helping me. 2nd - Sorry for asking those stupid questions, but I know that my main pc had a trojan a few weeks ago. I used dban to wipe all hdds and clean installed a new OS without saving any data.
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3125 [20:31:08] <Kentsfield> yes, they're running too. But I know that they get started automatically
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3127 [20:31:29] <jelly> and so did exim, it just has no "d" at the end for some reason
3128 [20:32:09] <Kentsfield> for what is the param d good for?
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3133 [20:33:23] <Kentsfield> ah, man says debug - If I got this right
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3136 [20:33:45] <jmcnaught> awwal: have you tried Lyx? that's pretty different
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3140 [20:34:08] <Devastator> jmcnaught I think I'm gonna separate just /home then and move on, for a first time I think it is ok
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3146 [20:35:09] <Devastator> unless you have another advice :)
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3154 [20:38:22] <Kentsfield> okay, next task is to find out how to hold libvirt the right way :)
3155 [20:38:25] <Devastator> also, can the host be one server (http server for example) and the guest be another server (mail server)?
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3158 [20:39:03] <jmcnaught> Devastator: just make sure that rootfs (/) is large enough for however many image files you think you'll use. Keep in mind that it's pretty easy to use 15GB or more just for the host OS with desktop environment, applications and games
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3161 [20:39:51] <jmcnaught> Devastator: yes of course, but you might find it more useful to have all the servers be contained in VMs.
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3190 [20:47:42] <awwal> jmcnaught, never tried lyx. I have seen it via apt search/description but not sure what is it exactly, if it have a gui and abe to create word files just as I do with libreofficw writer and abiword
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3197 [20:49:56] <jmcnaught> awwal: maybe not word files, but it's a What You See Is What You Mean document processor based on LaTeX that lets you focus on the content and it handles the styling
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3209 [20:51:56] <leba2> A samba4.2 ad dc requires winbind, right? Or am I confusing?
3210 [20:51:58] <awwal> jmcnaught, ok. I'm going to try it in my jessie VM and see whats exactly
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3221 [20:55:10] <leba2> Does a samba4.2 ad dc requires winbind installed as well?
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3226 [20:56:12] <Guesf_87875> replaced-url
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3232 [20:58:04] <wsky> can someone help me finding out why hinbernetion randomly works or fails to work on my debian jessie?
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3236 [20:58:33] <awwal> :) lyx without recommends 55 mb, with recommends 1 gb + 200 mb :) trying if useful without recommends ...
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3240 [20:59:37] <jmcnaught> awwal: installing it without recommends is probably a lot less informative than reading its website or watching a youtube video about it to see how it works
3241 [20:59:54] <wsky> sometimes i get only kernel: [14266.139635] PM: Hibernation mode set to 'platform' at the end of /var/log/debug and that's it, it does not hibernate
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3243 [21:00:19] <wsky> and sometimes, usually right after i boot the system it's working perfectly fine
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3246 [21:00:32] <Devastator> jmcnaught got it, strangely enough, when I try to separate just /home, it wants to use ext2 on /boot, is this normal?
3247 [21:01:02] <markybob> Devastator: yes
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3252 [21:01:26] <jmcnaught> Devastator: yeah that's normal. i think it's in case grub-legacy gets used which has some limitations with ext3/ext4
3253 [21:01:39] <awwal> jmcnaught, good idea. but I'll try it in my VM anyway. that why I have a jessie VM in my jessie host :P I try stuff in VM, if all good I install in real system :)
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3258 [21:02:57] <awwal> I'm a precocious user, trying to keep my system clean and at minimals all the time :P
3259 [21:03:20] <greycat> Not sure what word you meant, but "precocious" wasn't it.
3260 [21:03:58] <jmcnaught> awwal: not a bad policy, but next time give your VM enough room to install the recommends. they are recommended after all.
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3269 [21:07:24] <Iridos> isn't there another pdf2svg? I thought I could convert pdf with the text left as text more successfully than now
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3271 [21:09:16] <awwal> jmcnaught, yes. next time I'll have to create a virtual disk with a dynamically allocated file instead of a fixed size one ...
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3274 [21:10:22] <awwal> seems that fixed size is more faster regarding vbox docs,
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3276 [21:10:40] <wsky> why would hibernation randomly fail to work?
3277 [21:10:56] <wsky> with no information in dmesg
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3279 [21:11:38] <wsky> sometimes it just freezes the screen and all hid but the hdd led still blinks from time to time
3280 [21:12:10] <wsky> but the system refuses to get dumped into swap and the sleep led wont blink neither
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3284 [21:12:42] <wsky> i just found out that there is a hibernation test possible
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3286 [21:12:59] <wsky> set via /sys/power/pm_test
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3289 [21:14:03] <wsky> it's annoying
3290 [21:14:12] <awwal> wsky, check replaced-url
3291 [21:14:21] <wsky> yeah i've seen that
3292 [21:14:24] <wsky> i'm doing the test
3293 [21:14:32] <wsky> but as i said, it happens randomly
3294 [21:14:48] <wsky> it fails to work some time after i boot the machine
3295 [21:15:08] <awwal> systemd is related too , i think
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3326 [21:28:26] <ipatrol> how do I bridge a host connected to a machine that is not the router?
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3331 [21:30:09] <markybob> ipatrol: i assume this is what you mean replaced-url
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3333 [21:30:18] <ipatrol> markybob: no, not at all
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3335 [21:30:48] <ipatrol> I have a network drive connected to my ethernet port, and I want to share it with the 802.11 network I'm on
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3338 [21:31:11] <greycat> Mount it, then share it.
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3347 [21:34:53] <ipatrol> greycat: it's an AFT
3348 [21:34:57] <ipatrol> *AFP
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3350 [21:35:18] <ipatrol> I don't even know if it's actually a filesystem anywhere
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3352 [21:35:47] <greycat> Then I haven't got the slightest clue what you mean by "network drive". (Or "AFP".)
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3355 [21:36:42] <ipatrol> Apple File Protocol
3356 [21:36:56] <ipatrol> *Filing
3357 [21:37:07] <ipatrol> why WD decided to use it I'll never know
3358 [21:37:28] <greycat> I know nothing about Apple.
3359 [21:38:41] <greycat> !afp
3360 [21:38:41] <dpkg> The Apple Filing Protocol (AFP, formerly AppleTalk Filing Protocol) is a proprietary network protocol providing file services for Mac OS X. Ask me about <netatalk> (AFP server) and <afpfs-ng> (AFP client). Not to be confused with <afs>.
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3362 [21:39:26] <Devastator> jmcnaught just for you to know, I partitioned it manually as this: 255MB for /boot as ext2, 499GB as lvm, being 100GB for /home, 8.6GB for swap and / with the rest
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3367 [21:40:31] <bogdanovby> test00
3368 [21:40:36] <jelly> Devastator: "/ with the rest" is silly, leave space unallocated in the VG instead
3369 [21:41:02] <Devastator> jelly oh god.. let me start over then..
3370 [21:41:19] <jelly> bogdanovby: test failed.
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3372 [21:41:49] <wsky> jelly: have you got any thoughts on the issue of mine?
3373 [21:41:55] <jmcnaught> Devastator: that 499 as LVM, is that a partition used as a physical volume for LVM? The others, are they also in a separate LVM VG, or just plain partitions?
3374 [21:42:00] <jelly> wsky: no, did not read it
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3376 [21:42:00] <wsky> jelly: the one about hibernation failing
3377 [21:42:10] <wsky> 21:10:40 < wsky> why would hibernation randomly fail to work?
3378 [21:42:10] <wsky> 21:10:56 < wsky> with no information in dmesg
3379 [21:42:11] <ewew> Hi. Did someone had a issue with devpts permision setting. In my case the system seams ignoring /etc/default/devpts on systemd system.
3380 [21:42:13] <Devastator> jelly how much space should I leave unallocated?
3381 [21:42:14] <wsky> 21:11:38 < wsky> sometimes it just freezes the screen and all hid but the hdd led still blinks from time to time
3382 [21:42:17] <wsky> 21:12:10 < wsky> but the system refuses to get dumped into swap and the sleep led wont blink neither
3383 [21:43:06] <wsky> jelly: it usually happens after the os ran for few hours, whenever i try hibernating right after it boots it works flawlessly
3384 [21:43:06] <Devastator> jmcnaught for the former, yes, for the latter partitions inside the same LVM VG
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3386 [21:43:25] <jelly> Devastator: dunno, all the space you're not planning to use right away in the first 6-12 months?
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3390 [21:44:00] <jelly> wsky: sorry, too complex to read right now
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3392 [21:44:35] <jmcnaught> wsky: in general, find clues in the logs at the time of the attempted hibernation
3393 [21:44:59] <wsky> the only thing i get in /var/log/debug when it fails is
3394 [21:45:01] * jelly chooses to deal with easy or simple questions only when tired
3395 [21:45:27] <wsky> PM: Hibernation mode set to 'platform'
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3397 [21:45:40] <wsky> and then it goes silent, no more messages untill next boot
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3399 [21:46:16] <wsky> i will try to use the kernel's hibernation testing functionality
3400 [21:46:33] <wsky> well that's what i'm using atm but the tests pass flawlessly
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3402 [21:46:51] <jelly> Devastator: may as well learn to call those slices inside the VG logical volumes, LVs not partitions. Helps distinguish them from using an actual partition as a LVM PV
3403 [21:47:22] <Devastator> jelly I see, this is my first time with LVM, I did this because I want to use KVM and it was suggested that I create LVM so I could manage the VMs separately, or, as I consider, "the right way"
3404 [21:48:30] <jelly> Devastator: seems sensible, but if you leave space unallocated you'll be able to try out giving whole LVs as raw disks to kvm
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3412 [21:49:39] <jelly> instead of, or in addition to, giving each VM an image files on the (/) filesystem
3413 [21:49:40] <Devastator> jelly interesting, let me start over, would you consider suggesting a partition scheme when I open the partitioner?
3414 [21:49:49] <jmcnaught> Devastator: simply using image files in /var/lib/libvirt/images is also a "right way". "My way" is i have a 250GB SSD and a 500GB HDD. The SSD is partitioned into two LVM PVs. I have a VG using one of the SSD's PVs for the host OS. I have a second VG composed of the second SSD PV and the HDD for libvirt
3415 [21:50:20] <jelly> Devastator: this setup was mostly optimal, apart from leaving some space in the VG unused
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3417 [21:51:13] <Devastator> let me get this straight: LVM PV = Partition Volume, LVM VG = Volume Group, LVM LV = Logical Volume, correct?
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3419 [21:51:29] <greycat> PV = "physical volume", an actual disk.
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3422 [21:51:50] <greycat> VG = "volume group", a group of PVs that act as a virtual disk
3423 [21:52:45] <jmcnaught> wsky: i find journalctl quite useful with persistent journal enabled (see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian). You can use a command like "journalctl --boot=-1 --lines=20" to see the last 20 lines of the previous boot
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3427 [21:53:40] <jelly> (that group may be composed of a mere single PV)
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3431 [21:54:00] <user> hi I'm new to debian
3432 [21:54:08] <jmcnaught> Devastator: that RHEL LVM manual i linked to earlier has a decent overview of the concepts with pictures to illustrate PVs, VGs, LVs etc.
3433 [21:54:09] <user> how do I modify the keyboard layout in the login manager?
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3440 [21:56:04] <jmcnaught> user: "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" should do it
3441 [21:56:51] <Devastator> ok, partitioner is open, I have it like this: 255MB for /boot, 499GB for lvm, so maybe I can do it like this: 100GB for /home, 8.6GB for swap, 100GB for / and the rest unallocated, all in the same VG, makes sense?
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3443 [21:57:08] <user> thanks jmcnaught
3444 [21:57:14] <user> i'll try it
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3449 [21:58:45] <user> command not found?
3450 [21:58:52] <user> do I have to sudo?
3451 [21:58:56] <greycat> yes
3452 [21:59:07] <greycat> (or, since sudo may not be installed, you might have to su)
3453 [21:59:12] <jmcnaught> Devastator: sounds pretty reasonable. Keep in mind when you add the LVM VG as a storage pool to libvirt, users in the libvirt group (that have access to libvirt) will be able to do things like delete LVs in that VG. It is because I didn't want my root, swap, home LVs to be visible in the libvirt storage pool that I use a separate VG for libvirt
3454 [21:59:31] <user> I've installed it, so it's fine :) greycat
3455 [21:59:37] <jelly> Devastator: yes, except I'd make home even smaller since it's trivial to grow an ext3/ext4 on lv online while it's not trivial to shrink it.
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3459 [22:00:22] <Devastator> jelly 60GB maybe?
3460 [22:00:32] <Devastator> jmcnaught interesting!
3461 [22:00:34] <jelly> yeah
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3464 [22:01:51] <Devastator> jmcnaught so one VG is /, swap and /home, the other is /var/lib/libvirt/images?
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3466 [22:02:44] <jmcnaught> Devastator: close. One VG is /, swap, /home. The other is a bunch of LVs one for each virtual machine
3467 [22:03:16] <wsky> jmcnaught: so i've just filled 80% of memory with stress and it seems to fail to hibernate whenever the memory usage is high
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3471 [22:03:54] <jmcnaught> wsky: perhaps your swap is not large enough?
3472 [22:04:01] <wsky> it is
3473 [22:04:09] <wsky> it is 10G when my memory is 8
3474 [22:04:21] <markybob> wsky: it has to be at least 2x ram
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3476 [22:04:33] <wsky> no it has to be not
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3478 [22:04:49] <jelly> wsky: and none of that particular swap space is in use before the hibernation attempt?
3479 [22:04:51] <markybob> for hibernation to be reliable it sure does
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3481 [22:05:10] <wsky> jelly: correct
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3483 [22:05:23] <Omilun_> hello . i am using a thinkpad laptop (t430s) . it has some gadget key on keyboard and top of keyboard . but thay are not useable on debian . how can i use all of these?
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3486 [22:05:35] <wsky> might be worth mentioning that i've re-formated the swap lvm partition
3487 [22:05:44] <wsky> so the uuid is different
3488 [22:05:56] <Devastator> jmcnaught interesting, if I'm getting it I can create a VG for host with 100GB for /, 8.6GB for swap, 60GB for /home and another VG with unallocated space where I can set as storage pool so I can make LVs for each VM, is that it?
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3490 [22:06:56] <jelly> the tux-on-ice out of tree implementation used to have a lot saner swap size requirements, 50% extra was not unusual for the in-kernel one back around 2009-ish whan I last cared about hibernation
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3493 [22:07:24] <jelly> maybe it's 100% extra these days
3494 [22:07:27] <gcr2> hy. i use debian 8 as my home server. i want to install emacs but it purpose me to download about 240Mb of dependencies. how i can install "minimal" emacs package?
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3496 [22:07:40] <jmcnaught> Devastator: yes that's it. libvirt has different storage pool types. the default one it creates is of the type "dir" and it works just find with image files. Instead of image files I am using a storage pool of type "logical" (aka LVM), where each virtual disk is an LV instead of an image file.
3497 [22:07:54] <jmcnaught> s/find/fine/
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3504 [22:09:07] <Devastator> jmcnaught nice! that's how I'm gonna setup then :)
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3512 [22:11:19] <user> As a newbie, what's the best way to go about customising my debian desktop?
3513 [22:11:23] <user> cursor/theming etc
3514 [22:11:29] <jmcnaught> Devastator: i still recommend checking out that RHEL LVM guide i linked to earlier for overall LVM knowledge. When/if you add more disks to the computer you can do nifty stuff like caching with SSD, mirrored or striped volumes. But for now, two separate VGs (one for host, one for libvirt guests) is a good start
3515 [22:11:30] <user> without messing up the systme too much
3516 [22:11:37] <user> system*
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3518 [22:12:03] <user> and can someone recommend another irc client, chatzilla looks aweful
3519 [22:12:11] <user> awful*
3520 [22:12:17] <user> aweful would be completely different lol
3521 [22:12:28] <user> probably a step above awesome
3522 [22:12:49] <Omilun_> hello . i am using a thinkpad laptop (t430s) . it has some gadget key on keyboard and top of keyboard . but thay are not useable on debian . how can i use all of these?
3523 [22:13:03] <jmcnaught> user: irssi is great. hexchat is a popular gui client. smuxi and quassel are interesting but i haven't used them
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3528 [22:14:03] <jmcnaught> Omilun_: which desktop environment or window manager are you using? in my experience GNOME setups up all the keys on my thinkpad automatically, but i3 required some manual setup. others are probably somewhere in between
3529 [22:14:26] <user> jmcnaught: thanks I'll try irssi
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3534 [22:15:56] <Omilun_> jmcnaught: aha ... i am using i3wm
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3536 [22:16:03] <jelly> Omilun_: use "xev" to verify those keys all generate distinct events, first
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3540 [22:16:45] <Omilun_> jelly: is this an app to fix my problem?
3541 [22:17:09] <jelly> Omilun_: no. It's an app to show input device events, like keypresses.
3542 [22:17:26] <greycat> And by "app", we mean "program".
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3546 [22:18:22] <Omilun_> jelly: debian repository dose not have it
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3548 [22:18:31] <jmcnaught> Omilun_: once you do what jelly suggested you'll need to edit ~/.i3/config with a "bindsym" line for each shortcut. Chances are someone has put their i3 config with thinkpad shortcut keys on github that you could use as an example
3549 [22:18:48] <greycat> christ...
3550 [22:18:57] <greycat> wooledg@wooledg:~$ dpkg -S bin/xev
3551 [22:18:58] <greycat> x11-utils: /usr/bin/xev
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3553 [22:19:02] <jelly> Omilun_: it does, in the x11-utils package
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3555 [22:19:30] <greycat> It's not an "app". It's a common-as-dirt command line program that opens an X11 window and writes -- nay, SPEWS -- lines of text to stdout.
3556 [22:19:45] <jelly> greycat: the best way to get an answer is, of course, to state something can't be done
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3558 [22:20:06] <greycat> You can't just type "xev" at a bash prompt!@!
3559 [22:20:32] <jelly> or walk into Mordor, as it may
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3562 [22:21:28] <jelly> I guess a seriously cut down installation of Xorg may not bring x11-utils for some reason
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3564 [22:22:25] <user_> yay! I'm using irssi now
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3571 [22:23:36] <jelly> volume and mute keys on this thinkpad usb keyboard (X220/T520 style) worked "out of the box" on one jessie kde installation, but failed on another... both have XKBMODEL="thinkpadz60" in /etc/default/keyboard
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3576 [22:25:49] <ewew> Does anyone know why its not working ?
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3578 [22:25:56] <jelly> xev showed XF86AudioMute, XF86AudioLowerVolume, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, etc. on both systems, so for me the issue was somewhere in upper layers of userspace
3579 [22:26:10] <Omilun_> jelly: sory i cant understand you ... do you have any resource to learn it?
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3584 [22:26:47] <greycat> Type 'xev' in a terminal in your X session. It opens a new window. Move that window so it does not overlap the terminal in which you ran xev. Move the mouse pointer into the new window. Press a key and release it. Look at the terminal window.
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3586 [22:27:24] <Omilun_> greycat: are you spiking with me?
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3588 [22:27:29] <greycat> *plonk*
3589 [22:27:34] <jelly> Omilun_: yes he is.
3590 [22:27:35] <greycat> Not any more.
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3592 [22:27:54] <jelly> was*
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3601 [22:30:17] <Somelauw> What is the recommended way to enable SSD caching on an up to date Debian Jessie?
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3603 [22:30:33] <markybob> Omilun_: are you an arabic speaker?
3604 [22:31:26] <jmcnaught> Omilun_: this is an article i referred to when i was playing with i3: replaced-url
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3608 [22:32:49] <jmcnaught> Somelauw: what i recommend is LVM (see "man lvmcache"), but if you're adventurous bcache-tools is in jessie-backports
3609 [22:32:56] <Omilun_> greycat: thx man i got it .
3610 [22:33:08] <Omilun_> jmcnaught: aha . thx
3611 [22:33:27] <Omilun_> markybob: no.
3612 [22:33:31] <Somelauw> jmcnaught: Does adventurous mean Russian-roulette with my data?
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3615 [22:33:51] <Somelauw> I do make back-ups, but still find it an annoyance having to reinstall everything and such
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3617 [22:34:15] <edg> hi, hq
3618 [22:34:35] <jmcnaught> Somelauw: maybe. the stuff in backports isn't as tested. i'm quite happy with lvmcache
3619 [22:35:09] <edg> question , i have bought an Asus F302L , apparently with an elantech touchpad, which fails after a suspend/resume
3620 [22:35:24] <edg> there's only debian on the machine
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3623 [22:35:48] <edg> i found a patch ( replaced-url
3624 [22:36:07] <edg> of course i tried to google patching
3625 [22:36:39] <edg> but "patch -p1 < patchfile" fails
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3627 [22:36:55] <greycat> well, you would have to have the source tree to apply the patch *to*
3628 [22:37:14] <edg> well I think i'm not really getting the source tree concept
3629 [22:37:29] <Omilun_> jelly: thx man . i am fixing all of these . bye
3630 [22:37:35] <greycat> When it says "linux44" in your URL, I'm guessing this means it's a patch against a Linux 4.4.x kernel.
3631 [22:37:35] <edg> where should I look it up?
3632 [22:37:35] <markybob> egos: i have a the same issue. when that happens i ctrl+alt+f2 and then alt+f7 and it comes back. try that maybe? patching the kernel sounds outside your wheelhouse
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3635 [22:37:43] <edg> aha
3636 [22:37:58] <greycat> Jessie doesn't come with a Linux 4.4.x kernel.
3637 [22:38:10] <edg> ok )
3638 [22:38:19] <greycat> ,kernels
3639 [22:38:20] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.6.0-rc5-686 (4.6~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 4.5.0-2-686-pae (4.5.3-2); stretch: 4.5.0-1-686-pae (4.5.1-1); jessie-backports: 4.5.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.5.1-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.78-1)
3640 [22:38:46] <greycat> Jessie has a 3.16.x kernel, but jessie-backports has a 4.5.x kernel available, if you think that might help more than it breaks.
3641 [22:38:51] <edg> i have the jessie one (3.16.0-4-amd64)
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3643 [22:39:16] <edg> not really keen to mess too much with the kernel, just need the trackpad fixed :)
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3645 [22:39:45] <edg> but thanks judd, that's usefull stuff
3646 [22:39:59] <markybob> yes, thanks judd
3647 [22:40:04] <klow> Any LDAP wizards around? Or not even wizard just someone who knows basic OpenLDAP / phpldapadmin . I will pay you to help me right now. Just need to get a few apps authenticating aginst an LDAP directory with a few users
3648 [22:40:34] <Somelauw> jmcnaught: I think I'll go with lvmcache, as settup this up seems complicated enough, if not more.
3649 [22:40:40] <jmcnaught> edg: instead of patching the kernel you can probably configure the system to unload the module for your trackpad before suspend, then load it again on resume
3650 [22:41:14] <edg> jmcnaught: well i've been working on this all day
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3653 [22:41:34] <edg> and tried some scripts with modprobe -R psmouse and stuf
3654 [22:41:43] <edg> but no luck
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3660 [22:43:46] <edg> this is the psmouse module : psmouse 99249 0
3661 [22:43:58] <edg> does that say anything to you?
3662 [22:44:10] <greycat> Says it's loaded.
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3664 [22:44:48] <edg> so it just dissappears when it's unloaded?
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3666 [22:44:57] <greycat> The 0 also implies that no other modules are depending on it, so it might be easily removable, but I've found that to be a lie some of the time.
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3668 [22:45:08] <edg> ok
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3672 [22:45:25] <edg> i'll trie to unload see if the trackpad freezez
3673 [22:45:26] <jmcnaught> edg: replaced-url
3674 [22:45:37] <futex> anyone know how to create a root user + password in one command line ?
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3676 [22:45:56] <greycat> futex: Why?
3677 [22:45:58] <markybob> create a root user
3678 [22:46:03] <greycat> Whose system is he cracking...
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3680 [22:46:27] <futex> need to automate
3681 [22:46:30] <edg> he jmcnaught, i'll try that!
3682 [22:47:02] <futex> not for cracking..
3683 [22:47:23] <jmcnaught> edg: the idea with this is it will remove the module when going to sleep, and load it during resume. i modified a service unit i use to pause/resume libvirt VMs when i suspend
3684 [22:47:32] <user_> what other channels are good for a linux newbie?
3685 [22:47:44] <user_> or even a non-techie trying to be a better techie
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3688 [22:48:17] <edg> ok, cool :) thanks for the info
3689 [22:48:22] <edg> will test now ;)
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3691 [22:49:03] <edg> bad luk
3692 [22:49:06] <edg> luck
3693 [22:49:09] <edg> mouse freezed
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3696 [22:49:58] <edg> could it be the psmouse mod is not controlling the trackpad?
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3699 [22:50:13] <jmcnaught> edg: does using "modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse" manually after a resume unfreeze the mouse?
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3702 [22:50:52] <edg> jmcnaught: nope it doesn't
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3706 [22:51:36] <jmcnaught> futex: adduser has an --add_extra_groups option you could use to add a new user to sudo group. If you are doing automation, the software configuration management tool you are using should be able to handle this with its user module/resource
3707 [22:52:30] <futex> jmcnaught: ok
3708 [22:52:31] <markybob> that's terrifying. you need so many sudo users you need to automate the creation process
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3711 [22:52:56] <futex> it's just for bullshit VM
3712 [22:52:59] <jmcnaught> edg: ahh.. well if it's actually a different kernel module that systemd unit could still be useful (change the module used).
3713 [22:53:00] <futex> :)
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3716 [22:53:37] <markybob> that doesn't make any more sense
3717 [22:53:47] <jmcnaught> futex: what are you using to automate by the way?
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3719 [22:53:55] <futex> shell script
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3721 [22:54:26] <jmcnaught> futex: you should consider something like ansible or puppet for this type of work
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3730 [22:56:20] <edg> jmcnaught: will leave the script for now, any suggestions on how to track down the right module?
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3732 [22:56:51] <futex> ok
3733 [22:57:11] <kstenger> Hello, I need to install some packages on a squeeze system without upgrading to a newer version of debian. Since it's already out of LTS support I know I should make some changes on the sources.list file. But I'd like to know if there is some more thorough guide on how to do this transition. What to do and what not to do afterwards, etc. Thanks
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3735 [22:57:27] <jmcnaught> edg: i would at least disable the service unit "systemctl disable psmouse-sleep.service" and also put some comments in it explaining what it's for so you remember later
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3738 [22:58:21] <markybob> !tell kstenger about squeeze sources.list
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3741 [22:59:01] <edg> jmcnaught: done!
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3746 [22:59:59] <kstenger> Thank you markybob, I'll check it out!
3747 [23:00:05] <jmcnaught> edg: you can look for clues after a resume with a command like "journalctl --since -5min".
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3752 [23:00:55] <psylence> Alright, quick question. This is making me feel dumb.
3753 [23:01:05] <psylence> ncmpcpp isn't recognizing music files.
3754 [23:01:19] <psylence> mpd.conf and ncmpcpp.conf have matching music directory names
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3756 [23:01:28] <psylence> the music directory has global read/write permissions
3757 [23:01:33] <psylence> I ran ncmpcpp update
3758 [23:01:37] <psylence> Yet it doesn't work.
3759 [23:01:39] <psylence> Why?
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3772 [23:05:39] <edg> jmcnaught: ok thanks!
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3776 [23:06:20] <jmcnaught> edg: heh, i noticed a typo in my replaced-url
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3786 [23:10:18] <edg> jmcnaught: hehe
3787 [23:10:24] <edg> jmcnaught: will test again
3788 [23:10:41] <kstenger> From "about squeeze sources.list" What does it mean "Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze-lts> <squeeze-updates>" ? The reference is not clear to me
3789 [23:12:04] <user_> echo hi
3790 [23:12:08] <user_> oops
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3792 [23:13:09] <zykotick9> kstenger: all the stuff <in these> are other factoids, you can "/msg dpkg deb-src" for example...
3793 [23:13:33] <kstenger> ah, thanks zykotick9
3794 [23:13:45] <zykotick9> kstenger: sidenote... squeeze is kinda "finished" at this point...
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3798 [23:15:50] <user_> what command can I use to check packages?
3799 [23:15:53] <user_> general info
3800 [23:16:07] <user_> something that I haven't installed yet
3801 [23:16:23] <amcorreia> what kind of check?
3802 [23:16:33] <markybob> user_: apt-cache show foo if you know the package name
3803 [23:16:43] <markybob> user_: apt-cache search foo to search for package name
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3807 [23:17:04] <user_> ok i'll give that a go!
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3809 [23:17:29] <kstenger> zykotick9: I imagine! Hhowever at this point I'm unable to make a bigger upgrade of this particular system, but I do need some basic stuff installed (as mercurial) and I need to do it without breaking anything in the process (it's a production server). That's why I came here for advice. I appreciate all possible help, as I find a bit cryptic what I have so far.
3810 [23:17:36] <zykotick9> user_: <sidenote> the "new-school" version would be "apt show foo"
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3814 [23:18:11] <markybob> i find it hard to suggest apt until it gets basic shit like clean :P i don't know how that got left out
3815 [23:18:25] <zykotick9> kstenger: i'll wish you "good luck" with trying to get updated packages on squeeze <- you'll need it.
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3817 [23:18:33] <markybob> the rest of it i like
3818 [23:19:02] <psylence> Hey. So could anyone help me with mpd+ncmpcpp not showing any songs? I'm 99.9% sure everything is configured correctly.
3819 [23:19:04] <zykotick9> markybob: i'll agree clean is MIA???
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3821 [23:19:15] <markybob> zykotick9: yes
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3823 [23:19:28] <zykotick9> psylence: start with the mpd settings! that's where the path to songs is...
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3825 [23:19:45] <kstenger> zykotick9: you are taking my hopes away... :-(
3826 [23:19:45] <psylence> zykotick9: yes. it's the same music_Directory as for ncmpcpp
3827 [23:19:58] <psylence> And that directory is currently global read/write
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3829 [23:20:14] <zykotick9> psylence: music_directory is ONLY for certain features (editing tags) in ncmpcpp
3830 [23:20:26] <psylence> zykotick9: but they have to match, right?
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3836 [23:20:48] <zykotick9> psylence: did you restart mpd, after putting the path in? then update from ncmpcpp (u key i believe)
3837 [23:20:49] <jmcnaught> kstenger: if it is a production server that is all the more reason to upgrade to wheezy to continue getting security upgrades. wheezy is LTS too now.
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3839 [23:20:59] <psylence> zykotick9: yes and yes.
3840 [23:21:09] <psylence> I also tried running mpd in verbose mode, no errors.
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3842 [23:23:04] <psylence> And ncmpcpp says connected to localhost. I can run the update command, just nothing shows up.
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3845 [23:23:56] <edg> jmcnaught: newsflash, when i use hibernate
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3847 [23:24:05] <edg> trackpad comes to life again
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3849 [23:24:31] <jmcnaught> edg: progress! does suspend/resume work now too?
3850 [23:24:44] <edg> nope
3851 [23:24:47] <edg> that doesnt :)
3852 [23:25:30] <kstenger> so for what jmcnaught says, I understand it would be more reasonable to upgrade. But I need more help about how to do it in order to not break anything in the process... I already did break one debian before doing something similar.
3853 [23:25:46] <wsky> jmcnaught: im restoring a backup from befite ive reformated the swap
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3855 [23:25:54] <wsky> before
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3857 [23:26:20] <wsky> it was working before that
3858 [23:27:12] <jmcnaught> kstenger: if you follow the instructions in the release notes upgrading Debian is usually a smooth process
3859 [23:27:32] <markybob> kstenger: you need to read the release notes. in general you want to /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy and then /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie and be careful with the jessie one because that's known to fuck up apache (in the notes)
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3861 [23:28:01] <jmcnaught> edg: look for more clues with "journalctl --since -2min" immediately after a suspend/resume
3862 [23:28:43] <kstenger> ok, thank you guys, I'll have some reading to do!
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3870 [23:34:17] <kingsley> I'm having a friendly competition with a friend to see who can find the least expensive 32 GB thumb drive.
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3873 [23:34:35] <kingsley> So far, he's winning with $3.99 from Amazon.
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3876 [23:34:50] <psylence> kingsley: aliexpress.com?
3877 [23:35:36] <edg> jmcnaught: hmm, could this be something ? : ahci 0000:00:1f.2: port does not support device sleep
3878 [23:35:42] <user_> anyone know how I can set up japanese input?
3879 [23:35:50] * user_ is a new debian user
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3884 [23:36:58] <jmcnaught> edg: definitely. i wonder if simply adding a "sleep 1" somewhere would help
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3898 [23:40:27] <edg> jmcnaught: allright
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3908 [23:44:00] <kingsley> psylence: aliexpress.com seemed like a reasonable suggestion. I just search. So far, my friend's record low of $3.99 for a 32 GB thumb drive remains unbeaten.
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3910 [23:44:15] <kingsley> Ha ha ha!
3911 [23:44:22] <kingsley> But the joke's on him!
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3913 [23:44:53] <kingsley> I plan to dumpster dive at an electronic recycler!
3914 [23:45:00] <kingsley> Bwa ha ha!
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3917 [23:45:50] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell kingsley about off-topic
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3921 [23:48:24] <jmcnaught> kingsley: please don't private message me
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3924 [23:50:03] <symm-> hi, is this a good place to ask about Bunsenlabs?
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3927 [23:51:00] <jmcnaught> symm-: no this channel only supports Debian, not derivatives based on Debian. There is probably a Bunsenlabs channel out there somewhere
3928 [23:51:15] <symm-> ah, ok
3929 [23:51:54] <symm-> thanks jmcnaught
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3932 [23:53:28] <kingsley> user_: If you haven't figured it out already, I humbly suggest searching Google's indices for something like ... "input method" debian "set up" | configure | install
3933 [23:53:49] <user_> kingsley: figured it out :) thanks!
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3946 [23:59:06] <user_> how do I customise my mouse cursor?
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