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2 [00:01:31] <tzica> ty markybob :)
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62 [00:33:44] <DHowett> should one prefer debootstrap or cdebootstrap? too fine a distinction? :P
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70 [00:37:05] <markybob> DHowett: basically the difference is once is written in c. i've only used debootstrap
71 [00:37:59] <markybob> one*
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88 [00:49:11] <asterismo_l> hi people
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91 [00:49:46] <asterismo_l> is there anyrepo with open broadcast software? i need to broadcast to youtube an astronomical event using debian and ffmpeg is not even in the repos
92 [00:50:00] <asterismo_l> compiling that is really a pain
93 [00:50:08] <asterismo_l> vlc wont stream
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95 [00:50:14] <asterismo_l> need help
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97 [00:50:32] <markybob> asterismo_l: ffmpeg is in jessie-backports
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99 [00:51:30] <markybob> !tell asterismo_l about jessie-backports
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102 [00:53:37] <asterismo_l> markybob: thanks man
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104 [00:54:01] <asterismo_l> not finding ffmpeg in repos almost give me a heart attack dude
105 [00:54:04] <asterismo_l> seriously
106 [00:54:07] <asterismo_l> lol xD
107 [00:54:42] <markybob> asterismo_l: after you add it to your sources and apt-get update just apt-get install -t jessie-backports ffmpeg
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109 [00:54:55] <markybob> smoke break
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111 [00:55:09] <drpresident> why cant i type to any channels?
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113 [00:57:01] <Jerm1_> drpresident: Try registering with nickserv...if you havent
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120 [00:59:48] <drpresident> I did that, but the problem seems to be only an issue with ##security. I didnt see anything on their website that coulde help but it just says "Cannot send to channel"
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122 [01:00:34] <asterismo_l> markybob: obs-studio wont compile in debian jessie
123 [01:00:49] <asterismo_l> ffmpeg version is not correct or something
124 [01:00:53] <asterismo_l> Could NOT find FFmpeg (missing: swresample) (found version "56.1.0")
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127 [01:02:39] <jaggz> NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 343.19, but this kernel module has the version 352.79.
128 [01:02:53] <jaggz> what client is that? I just recompiled the program I'm running (visualsfm)...
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132 [01:04:10] <jaggz> (trying to use CUDA)
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139 [01:05:51] <markybob> asterismo_l: as far as i can tell you need libswresample-dev
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143 [01:08:25] <jaggz> maybe I need to windows
144 [01:08:31] <jaggz> I mean.. maybe I need to reboot
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158 [01:13:45] <Mazhive> oke guys.. i am in a struggle.. .. would it be more easier/faster to purge postfix / dovecot and start from scratch to set up a mail server ofcourse it does depand on the problem but .. since i think it not just a small problem i would tend to start over..
159 [01:13:58] <tharkun> When "/bin/sh -c" is executed on a debian system what shell is actually runned?
160 [01:14:27] <markybob> tharkun: sh uses dash
161 [01:14:31] <Mazhive> As i only have 2 email account.. to work with..
162 [01:14:54] <tharkun> markybob: Thanks.
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165 [01:15:21] <markybob> Mazhive: without knowing what problem it is...it's hard to say. anyway, you can just back up your config files, do a purge (not just remove), and if something bad happens you can always restore those config files
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171 [01:17:52] <vifon> Hello. I have some problems with loading the fuse module. I've just restored a DigitalOcean Debian Jessie droplet from an image and I'm not sure what could be the problem. The kernel and the module seem to be in the same version. Could someone help?
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173 [01:18:03] <vifon> Here is the output of modprobe. replaced-url
174 [01:18:33] <Mazhive> hmm .. well i have changed so much that i think i getting deeper and deeper.. into this problem ..i am thinking of using my second mail server to use as a backup mail server and try to fix this one in the mean while..
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181 [01:19:47] <markybob> Mazhive: btw there is #dovecot and #postfix where the pros are. you'll probably have better luck there
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184 [01:20:17] <pecg> Mazhive: Start over dude
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187 [01:20:45] <pecg> markybob: Second that
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195 [01:24:24] <vifon> Ok... Now I've fiddled a bit more with the DO panel and it's working now. I'm not sure why it wasn't reloading the kernel previously.
196 [01:24:38] <vifon> I've been trying to fix it the whole evening... Thanks anyway.
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199 [01:25:59] <Mazhive> nice tip markybob . will do that first.. thanx..
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205 [01:32:03] <sewerinspector> Hey all. I rebooted my thinkpad T450 and i'm now having issues with my touchpad. It's behaving erratically and synclient -l shows that the synaptics driver hasn't loaded. Here's a few relevant outputs: replaced-url
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227 [01:44:05] <awwal> Having problem here for toggle virt-manager fullscreen. Any clue?
228 [01:45:19] <awwal> keyboard shortcut I meant
229 [01:45:30] <teraflops> awwal: which DE/WM there?
230 [01:45:47] <awwal> teraflops, openbox
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232 [01:46:33] <awwal> probably conflicting with openbox keyboard settings
233 [01:47:00] <jmcnaught> awwal: there may not be a keyboard shortcut. what shortcut are you trying?
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236 [01:47:49] <awwal> I use Alt+F12 for fullscreen under openbox. The problem is that it seems that virt-manager have no keyboard shortcut as you say jmcnaught
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238 [01:48:26] <awwal> I have tried all the possible combinations: ctrl alt f, alt f1, f2...
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240 [01:48:38] <awwal> shit f1...
241 [01:48:45] <awwal> no one works xD
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245 [01:49:20] <jmcnaught> awwal: #virt on OFTC might know
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247 [01:49:46] <awwal> jmcnaught, oh, ok. I havent thought in virt channel. thanks
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253 [01:53:39] <awwal> the problem is that once in fullscreen mode (clocking in fullscreen mode button with mouse), it's impossible to disable the full screen mode. I have to shutdown the guest for have access to my debian host machine xD
254 [01:54:00] <teraflops> yeah I do ctr-alt and then move the mouse over the top center of the screen and a little menu applet/menu drops down
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257 [01:57:00] <jmcnaught> awwal: yeah it's mouse only as far as i know
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261 [01:59:06] <awwal> teraflops, I have tried that before I ask but it doesnt work (ctrl+alt mouve the mouse over the top center for get the applet for disable fuullscreen mode)
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263 [01:59:31] <awwal> jmcnaught, the problem I have is disabling full screen mode
264 [02:00:00] <jmcnaught> also if you're using SPICE and the guest has QXL as the graphics card i've found that ctrl+alt isn't necessary
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267 [02:00:11] <jmcnaught> awwal: are you using the ctrl+alt on the left side of the keyboard?
268 [02:00:26] <awwal> jmcnaught, yes
269 [02:01:04] <jmcnaught> awwal: virt-manager preferences has a spot to change the grab keys shortcut
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271 [02:04:04] <awwal> jmcnaught, not familiar with virt-manager and it's configs; I'm a bit lost, lol
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282 [02:12:20] <teraflops> awwal: to be fair the applet at top appears ramdomly :P
283 [02:12:24] <teraflops> :S
284 [02:13:10] <Goddesspapa> When you are writing something, do you say star p or pointer p? Feels weird that I say the former in my head.
285 [02:13:23] <teraflops> I never noticed it, I just use a spice client not the virt-manager itself
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289 [02:13:58] <awwal> teraflops, that wont work here
290 [02:14:13] <awwal> played with virt preferences and no clue
291 [02:14:15] <teraflops> awwal: here it barely works :P
292 [02:14:18] <awwal> no luck
293 [02:14:37] <teraflops> awwal: try with spice-client
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295 [02:14:47] <teraflops> hmm
296 [02:14:58] <teraflops> ,v spice-client-gtk
297 [02:14:58] <awwal> teraflops, googling seems that many people have my problem
298 [02:14:59] <judd> Package: spice-client-gtk on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.12-5; jessie: 0.25-1+b1; sid: 0.30-1; stretch: 0.30-1
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304 [02:19:37] <awwal> teraflops, will look at that pkg, ok
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306 [02:19:58] <teraflops> awwal: spicy has shift + 11 / shift + f12 if it behaves the same as in archlinux
307 [02:20:20] <teraflops> toggle on / off, it is a nice app
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312 [02:26:12] <awwal> wanted to from virtualbox to qemu-kvm but no luck for now. will check how things works via cli, without virt-manager
313 [02:26:20] <awwal> wanted to switch ^
314 [02:26:52] <jmcnaught> awwal: i was talking about edit>preferences and then console tab in virt-manager
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316 [02:27:32] <awwal> jmcnaught, yes I understood
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318 [02:28:39] <VlanX> Hello.... so I made this mistake, instead of writing to my HDD I wrote to the SSD and got the root partition full. After ten minutes I realized the mistake ad freed it. However, the root was at zero byte free at some point. Did I cause any damage to the OS?
319 [02:30:00] <tzica> at some point :)
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321 [02:30:30] <tzica> free space and you'll be fine
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323 [02:31:51] <VlanX> tzica: thank you. Too bad it was an SSD, I caused extra wearing for nothing :(
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333 [02:40:34] <captainfixerpc14> could someone possibly tell me how to reset default graphics adapter in jessie - after installing fglrx-drivers I can't get past the boot screen?
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335 [02:40:54] <captainfixerpc14> left with a flashing cursor top left
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339 [02:43:16] <zoomgry> no older kernels in grub, any reason why? how do I downgrade linux kernel to a previous version to test an audio issue?
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350 [02:54:06] <awwal> ,v kernels
351 [02:54:07] <judd> No package named 'kernels' was found in amd64.
352 [02:54:28] <awwal> zoomgry, jessie has 3.16 kernel
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355 [02:55:03] <awwal> you will only get menor upgrades for that version
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360 [02:56:09] <awwal> you will see in grub an old version, say 3.16, if you get 3.18, for example
361 [02:56:22] <awwal> or 3.17
362 [02:56:24] <zoomgry> awwal: would like to try a previous version, don't see it in grub
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365 [02:56:51] <awwal> zoomgry, stable (jessie now) have only 1 version
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368 [02:57:15] <markybob> zoomgry: why downgrade? why not upgrade? jessie-backports has 4.5
369 [02:57:34] <zoomgry> ok I can upgrade too to test, just not sure how, I'll check it out, give me a few mins
370 [02:57:43] <markybob> zoomgry: replaced-url
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373 [02:57:52] <dvs> zoomgry, don't do that.
374 [02:57:59] <gorillas> epsilon, thanks so much for your help the other day. I fixed the problem. It was rdnssd. I removed it. Seems to fix everything.
375 [02:58:00] <markybob> zoomgry: follow those instructions to add sources. then apt-get -t jessie-bacckports linux-image-amd64
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377 [02:58:41] <markybob> !tell zoomgry about jessie-backports
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380 [02:58:53] <zoomgry> dvs: do not downgrade you mean ?
381 [02:58:59] <zoomgry> markybob: cheers :)
382 [02:59:09] <dvs> zoomgry, do not "upgrade" to testing
383 [02:59:23] <markybob> right. jessie-backports isn't testing. that's fine.
384 [02:59:31] <zoomgry> ah. no that's just my fail grammar. I upgrade (the kernel) to test (to test the sound).
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388 [03:01:06] <Rudde> How can I generate a data sample of uncompressable data to benchmark?
389 [03:01:31] <awwal> zoomgry, so you want downgrade or upgrade?
390 [03:01:31] <Rudde> /Dev/random is slow, is there a faster way to get random data that does not need to be cryptosafe?
391 [03:01:58] <VampiricPadraig> Hey guys. Quick question, Is MariaDB 10.1.13 based on MySQL 5.7.3 m13? (I asked in #maria but its kinda dead :P )
392 [03:02:05] <markybob> so much more likely to fuck shit up if he tries an earlier kernel in jessie than jessie-backports
393 [03:02:12] <awwal> maybe another one english spoken will explain you better why you no have old versions of kernel in your jessie
394 [03:02:17] <awwal> bad english here
395 [03:02:31] <markybob> he has no older version because that's what jessie shipped with
396 [03:02:42] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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398 [03:02:57] <awwal> zoomgry, ^
399 [03:03:05] <zoomgry> awwal: either would do; would like to get the sound working again; it's distorted at volumes abnove 50%, and below 50% is rather quiet; it worked before
400 [03:03:21] <markybob> zoomgry: did you forget to apt-get update?
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402 [03:03:31] <markybob> wait
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404 [03:03:32] <markybob> heh
405 [03:03:42] <dvs> zoomgry, lines 23 and 26 are the same thing
406 [03:03:43] <markybob> zoomgry: apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64
407 [03:03:47] <markybob> zoomgry: you forgot "install"
408 [03:04:02] <zoomgry> aha thanks
409 [03:04:25] <zoomgry> interestingly I have linux-kernel-586 and linux-kernel-686 installed, not the amd64, and I'm not sure what key words to use to look it up on the web
410 [03:04:42] <markybob> zoomgry: you do have a 64-bit capable cpu?
411 [03:04:51] <zoomgry> yes
412 [03:05:07] <markybob> okay. not sure why you installed the 32bit version of debian but it doesn't matter
413 [03:05:45] <zoomgry> it's unpacking 3.16.0-4 but I think that's what I already have
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415 [03:06:05] <markybob> zoomgry: so again, did you apt-get update? doesn't sound like it
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419 [03:08:38] <zoomgry> replaced-url
420 [03:09:42] <markybob> zoomgry: show the output of apt-get update
421 [03:09:49] <zoomgry> ok
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423 [03:10:28] <zoomgry> replaced-url
424 [03:11:00] <markybob> zoomgry: dpkg -l linux-image-amd64
425 [03:11:09] <dvs> 117 not upgraded?
426 [03:11:36] <zoomgry> replaced-url
427 [03:11:40] <markybob> and i really don't know wtf that non-free.org source is. fucking frankendebian
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432 [03:13:02] <zoomgry> I installed the non-free wifi driver from that
433 [03:13:21] <markybob> you're only getting packages/diffindex for i386 for some reason in jessie-backports
434 [03:13:23] <zoomgry> if there's a more direct way to specify non-free without using that alias, I'd happily change it
435 [03:13:31] <zoomgry> hmm
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437 [03:13:42] <zoomgry> then I can install a new 586 kernel and try that for a start
438 [03:13:43] <dvs> zoomgry, yeah, put "non-free" after main in sources.list
439 [03:14:09] <markybob> zoomgry: make the backports line start with: deb [arch=amd64] then apt-get update again
440 [03:14:33] <zoomgry> (there's 8 lines ending in 'main'; do I add non-free to each?)
441 [03:14:37] <zoomgry> ok
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448 [03:16:44] <dvs> zoomgry, yes adding "contrib non-free" to the end of those lines would be better
449 [03:16:53] <zoomgry> replaced-url
450 [03:16:57] <zoomgry> ok
451 [03:17:26] <markybob> zoomgry i really don't know what your problem is. i'll let someone else step in.
452 [03:17:53] <dvs> zoomgry, except for that "nonfree.org" line. We're not sure what's there.
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459 [03:20:49] <captainfixerpc14> how can I reset default graphics adapter in jessie - after installing fglrx-drivers I can't get past the boot screen? all I get is flashing cursor - top left - ?
460 [03:20:58] <captainfixerpc14> debian jessie
461 [03:21:15] <markybob> zoomgry: this is what your sources should look like. just this. delete everything else. replaced-url
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465 [03:23:52] <zoomgry> ok; curious, you put backports at the top, which maybe is better, but the instructions don't tell where to put it; I'll pastebin in a few minutes
466 [03:24:00] <markybob> zoomgry: doesn't matter at all
467 [03:24:14] <dvs> zoomgry, it doens't matter where in the file it is, as long as it's there.
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469 [03:24:44] <zoomgry> now it doesn't want to install new amd64, but installs new 586, which is 4.5.0
470 [03:24:58] <markybob> fine, consider it a win
471 [03:25:04] <zoomgry> if success, I'll reboot in a moment and check
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473 [03:26:26] <markybob> !tell zoomgry about multiarch
474 [03:26:32] <markybob> zoomgry: i'm guessing you never did that
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476 [03:26:41] <markybob> but you don't need it so don't worry about it
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478 [03:27:19] <zoomgry> that's what I did. downloaded a kde live cd. it had only 586 and 686. wonder whether I downloaded a wrong one.
479 [03:27:36] <zoomgry> but it's not a big problem, I'll live without amd64 just fine
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481 [03:28:26] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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491 [03:38:05] <awwal> So guys, how to disable a given app which have a .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart from being loaded/started at log in X?
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493 [03:38:23] <awwal> how to prevent I meant ^
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497 [03:42:00] <zoomgry> Hi, I'm on the new kernel now, but the sound problem still is the same.
498 [03:42:27] <awwal> zoomgry, alsa + pulseaudio or just alsa there?
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500 [03:42:41] <zoomgry> both, but I didn't try to remove pulseaudio and check again
501 [03:42:55] <zoomgry> (if i can switch to phonon instead, that'd work too)
502 [03:43:38] <markybob> zoomgry: have you tried installing/using pavucontrol?
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504 [03:43:54] <awwal> how you ended having audio issue?, zoomgry when?
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507 [03:47:53] <zoomgry> awwal: I upgraded a lot of things including the kernel this month
508 [03:49:03] <somiaj> zoomgry: what is your audio issue/
509 [03:49:27] <zoomgry> replaced-url
510 [03:50:02] <somiaj> zoomgry: what version of debian are you running?
511 [03:50:14] <zoomgry> jessie 8
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513 [03:50:27] <somiaj> zoomgry: are you using a backport kernel?
514 [03:50:39] <zoomgry> yes, since a few minutes ago I am, but it doesn't help
515 [03:51:33] <somiaj> so it worked fine with jessie, then it stoped working fine, then you tried a newer kerne?
516 [03:51:47] <somiaj> i.e. an upgarde of the stock jessie kernel caused this issue?
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519 [03:51:59] <zoomgry_> somiaj, yes, since a few minutes ago I am, but it doesn't help; sorry, I lost the connection
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521 [03:52:10] <somiaj> so it worked fine with jessie, then it stoped working fine, then you tried a newer kerne?
522 [03:52:13] <somiaj> i.e. an upgarde of the stock jessie kernel caused this issue?
523 [03:52:19] <zoomgry_> yes
524 [03:52:30] <somiaj> zoomgry_: what are you using as your speakers?
525 [03:52:35] <zoomgry_> builtin speakers
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529 [03:53:25] <somiaj> zoomgry: it is rare that a upgrade of jessie changes things, but for testing reasons you could try to downgrade to the kernel you know that worked. And if it works on the older kernel, but not on the newer kernel file a regression bug.
530 [03:54:08] <somiaj> zoomgry: it could also just be hardware, but I would try the kernel version you know worked and see if it still works.
531 [03:54:15] <zoomgry> that'd work, I just don't know how to downgrade
532 [03:54:23] <somiaj> you can get it at archive.debian.org if you don't have a copy in /var/cache/apt/archives anymore
533 [03:54:27] <zoomgry> nor I know the version that worked, I only know the new one
534 [03:54:53] <somiaj> zoomgry: you can look at the change log to see what date what versions was released, or just try archive.debian.org and download the .deb
535 [03:55:00] <somiaj> zoomgry: amd64?
536 [03:55:27] <somiaj> sorry not archive, snapshot.debian.org
537 [03:55:32] <zoomgry> if it's called "linux-image-3.16.0-4-586_3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4_i386.deb" in the archives, then what version is it?
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540 [03:57:32] <somiaj> zoomgry: replaced-url
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544 [03:58:18] <somiaj> zoomgry: I'm unsure how old you have to go, I would drop the ckt?? versions, so if ckt20 isn't working, try ctk11-1+deb8u6
545 [03:58:31] <somiaj> zoomgry: also remver these will have security issues, but testing will help give you info for a bugreport
546 [03:59:04] <somiaj> you could also check your /var/log/apt and see what version you had before the upgrade you think caused it to not work.
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549 [04:00:45] <somiaj> zoomgry: another random though, you don't have any amplifier or audio boost switch turned on the laptop or the mixer controls?
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552 [04:01:58] <zoomgry> in history.log.2.gz i have linux-image-3.16.0-4-586:i386 installed on 9th of march 2016 so I'll reboot again, I thought that's the one I already have, not the one i installed in may 2016
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554 [04:02:00] <jml2> i know if pulseaudio is buggy, it can cause audio distortions
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556 [04:02:34] <zoomgry> I'll purge pulseaudio and reboot to check which kernel versions I have in grub
557 [04:02:36] <somiaj> zoomgry: it iwll be the same package name, jsut different versions
558 [04:02:41] <zoomgry> yes
559 [04:02:51] <zoomgry> ah
560 [04:02:58] <somiaj> so the only way to get older kerenels is to install the older package.
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564 [04:03:38] <zoomgry> ok it was version 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 installed in march, and 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 installed in may
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566 [04:04:04] <awwal> zoomgry, can you paste the output of dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image ?
567 [04:04:34] <zoomgry> replaced-url
568 [04:05:25] <awwal> lol, why all those kernels ?
569 [04:06:37] <zoomgry> that's what came with the live cd + what I installed today
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576 [04:11:10] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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578 [04:12:31] <awwal> i how your system (you pkgs), being i386, are handled by all those different kernel arch, zoomgry
579 [04:12:54] <jml2> dpkg -l is also a short form for dpkg --list
580 [04:12:54] <dpkg> ii is also a short form for dpkg --list 2.1-11.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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582 [04:14:07] * zinx installs ii by doing alias ii='dpkg --list'
583 [04:14:28] <awwal> i wonder how your system I meant ^, lol
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589 [04:18:46] <awwal> so if the whole pkgs in the system are i386, one can boot with an amd64 kernel just fine?
590 [04:19:04] <zinx> yes
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594 [04:20:16] <awwal> ok,
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599 [04:22:21] <whitePawn> Im the waterfall in your head
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603 [04:25:11] <zoomgry> at replaced-url
604 [04:25:31] <zoomgry> mine were ckt20 but this page does not list them
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621 [04:37:33] <zoomgry> somiaj: ^
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626 [04:38:59] <xcel^iAMFiSH> anyone good with mplayer? whats the easiest way to view youtube in mplayer if even possible? Thanks
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630 [04:40:21] <markybob> xcel^iAMFiSH: i know mpv, which is an mplayer2 fork, does. just "mpv url"
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632 [04:40:29] <xcel^iAMFiSH> oh
633 [04:41:05] <zoomgry> mplayer -playlist <(quvi dump -p rfc2483 youtube_url_here)
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640 [04:45:33] <xcel^iAMFiSH> oh markybob mpv worked like a charm
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642 [04:45:53] <markybob> xcel^iAMFiSH: yeah it's my new favorite
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657 [04:57:31] <avis> howdy
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660 [04:58:44] <avis> i was wonderin..... i save all my themes and icons in my home directory. debian doesn't automatically make use of em. i distro hop sometimes. not always my fault. i sure love lovely themes. they make me happy. anyone know how to get the debian install to utilize all home dir hidden themes and icons despite reinstall ?
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665 [05:03:45] <karlpinc> avis: It would depend on what software is using the theme. You might look at the readme.debian for the software in question. Or just read the directions.
666 [05:03:52] <karlpinc> !tell avis about readme.debian
667 [05:04:40] <avis> thanks.
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681 [05:13:25] <avis> X11? overwritin ?
682 [05:14:41] <jml2> avis, distro hopping is a sni
683 [05:14:49] <jml2> avis, *sin* :))
684 [05:14:52] <jml2> tehehe
685 [05:16:18] <avis> i love debian. but more money, more tricks.. i've seen it all
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691 [05:19:58] <awwal> xcel^iAMFiSH, also you can use smtube and mps-youtube for browse and see youtube videos without X web beowser
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693 [05:22:00] <awwal> btw, you nickname is f*** complicated. I no understand why some people choose a complicated nicknames
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695 [05:22:26] <xcel--> awwal: ah, thanks looks great
696 [05:22:56] <xcel--> awwal: no its just usually 4 chars :)
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698 [05:23:30] <elky> awwal: do you know about tab completion?
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700 [05:23:58] <awwal> yeah :) elky
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703 [05:24:20] <elky> awwal: then you shouldn't have problems with the nicks ;)
704 [05:24:25] <rachelfish> hi guys
705 [05:24:26] <rachelfish> I like debian
706 [05:24:30] <rachelfish> keep up the good work!!
707 [05:24:53] <awwal> elky, someties I forget use it :P
708 [05:25:08] <jaggz> thanks rachelfish ! it's people like you that give us the drive to do all this development!
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710 [05:25:35] <jaggz> that's a joke -- I've not done any direct debian development myself
711 [05:26:01] <xcel> my eyes bleeding from this irssi setup with joins/parts arnt on ignore lol
712 [05:26:35] <awwal> jaggz, I thought you were the maintainer of dpkg :P
713 [05:26:58] <jaggz> if I maintained a bot I think I'd try to go for some really cool ai
714 [05:27:09] <jaggz> like microsoft's twitter ai?
715 [05:27:36] <jaggz> my software's not recognizing my cuda..
716 [05:27:51] <awwal> the bot no, i meant the real :Ppkg mangement
717 [05:28:14] <jaggz> yeah I wasn't sure which you meant
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720 [05:31:18] <n_blownapart> hi I'm getting an error while updating chrome on jessie 8 debian. I found solutions that don't seem to work. please take a look thanks : replaced-url
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724 [05:34:14] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: hello again. did you get the wifi issues all sorted out? If i recall correctly from last night you had some warnings about that chrome repo having duplicate entries.
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729 [05:38:28] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, yeah thanks for checking in. I removed and re-installed chrome and now my amazon streaming seems to be working well. Do I still have a problem though? the wifi dongle seems to have given me about 25 - 35 percent better signal.
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731 [05:40:36] <n_blownapart> so thanks kindly !
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733 [05:41:58] <sewerinspector> Hey all. I rebooted my thinkpad T450 and i'm now having issues with my touchpad. It's behaving erratically and synclient -l shows that the synaptics driver hasn't loaded. Here's a few relevant outputs: replaced-url
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739 [05:43:39] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, I wonder if I should ignore chrome errors while uploading considering it now streams videos pretty well with my new "dongle" :) ?
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741 [05:43:51] <n_blownapart> upgrading*
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744 [05:44:15] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: it's worth resolving the errors in apt
745 [05:44:29] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell n_blownapart about show sources.list
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748 [05:47:31] <n_blownapart> the edits here were in fact done automatically replaced-url
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750 [05:48:27] <n_blownapart> i.e. with the new install the sources.list.d file was that by default. jmcnaught
751 [05:48:56] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: try making a paste of the output of the command that dpkg messaged to you, it will show everything
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753 [05:49:08] <jmcnaught> i still suspect duplicate entries
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755 [05:52:37] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, sorry, I don't follow. I didn't receive a command from dpkg
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758 [05:53:34] <jmcnaught> !show sources.list n_blownapart
759 [05:53:34] <dpkg> n_blownapart: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
760 [05:54:02] <n_blownapart> thanks trying that jmcnaught
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767 [05:56:01] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: see how you have google-chrome.list and also google.list? you can just remove that google.list file
768 [05:56:52] <n_blownapart> bingo jmcnaught I'll try it thanks !
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777 [05:59:33] <n_blownapart> that did it jmcnaught thanks and blessings !
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779 [06:00:02] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: you're welcome
780 [06:00:31] <jml2> would of said duplicate ignoring.. google's servers finally updated for i386
781 [06:00:37] <jml2> or amd64...
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892 [07:34:10] <zoomgry_> at replaced-url
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899 [07:40:10] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: are you trying to use an older kernel because of a sound problem or do you have multiple problems? sound configuration files won't be in that package
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903 [07:41:53] <zoomgry_> jmcnaught: I altered sound settings (don't remember which) and upgraded the kernel at the same time. I would like to debug these two problems separately
904 [07:42:13] <zoomgry_> one of these two actions created the distorted sound issue
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909 [07:44:31] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: do you remember if you changed sound settings system wide or just for one user? Have you tested with a different account?
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911 [07:44:58] <zoomgry_> systemwide, yes itried
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913 [07:45:46] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: the pulseaudio package has conffiles in /etc/pulse
914 [07:45:59] <jmcnaught> !confnew
915 [07:45:59] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
916 [07:46:37] <zoomgry_> (and please ignore the first part of my question, I misread and I'm downloading that kernel now)
917 [07:46:39] <zoomgry_> ok
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919 [07:48:12] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: also do you have a /etc/asound.state file (or anything similar)? Possibly you used a command like "alsactl store"?
920 [07:49:02] <jmcnaught> actually sorry it would be /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
921 [07:49:29] <zoomgry_> I already tried to purge alsa-base and pulseaudio and to remove the asound.state by hand and that did not help.
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925 [07:50:42] <zoomgry_> I will be back in about 2 minutes
926 [07:50:43] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: when it comes to conffiles you can check to see a package's conffiles with "dpkg --status pulseaudio" for example
927 [07:50:51] <zoomgry_> Ok.
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932 [07:55:28] <zoomgry_> I already tried to purge and reinstall alsa-base, pulseaudio, phonon; tried to downgrade the kernel from deb8u4 to deb8u3; does not help -- still the same problem.
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936 [07:58:09] <zoomgry__> jmcnaught: which other packages would you suggest to purge and reinstall and remove their configs completely?
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940 [07:59:35] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: if you run alsamixer and press F6 then select your sound card, are there any channels that are maxed out, or "toggle channels" with names like boost that might be causing too much amplification? Also does this happen with headphones/line-out?
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943 [08:00:36] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: instead of purging and reinstalling packages, the <confnew> factoid from dpkg has a cleaner method (that won't cause problems with dependencies also wanting to be removed)
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945 [08:01:47] <zoomgry__> "dpkg --force-confnew pulseaudio" says "dpkg: error: need an action option". Can we update that factoid with an example, please? I'm going to dig it out in the man page in a few moments...
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948 [08:03:36] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: 'apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install pulseaudio' or 'aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall pulseaudio'
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951 [08:04:21] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: it's apt-get or aptitude that is telling dpkg to reinstall and passing non-default options to dpkg. Using dpkg alone is not enough
952 [08:04:30] <zoomgry__> I see. thanks
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954 [08:05:15] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: do you get distortion over headphones/line-out?
955 [08:05:27] <zoomgry__> with headphones it works ok
956 [08:05:44] <zoomgry__> and there's nothing maxed out in alsamixer, I already checked yesterday
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958 [08:07:11] <zoomgry__> it becomes red at volumes above 80%, but that's expected, and it should be able to go over 100% like it did before
959 [08:07:25] <zoomgry__> while it'd distorted at anything above 50%
960 [08:07:39] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: at this point i would test with a live disk, if you still have the problem with a live boot, you could have simply worn out your speakers
961 [08:09:03] <zoomgry__> ok
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963 [08:09:30] <jmcnaught> hopefully it's not that, but if you test with a live boot at least you'll know
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1036 [09:10:14] <zoomgry_> it does indeed have same problem with a live cd, and with a 2010 live cd too
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1039 [09:10:47] <zoomgry_> thanks to whoever suggested that too! :-) (was it jmcnaught ? I do not remember)
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1049 [09:14:47] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: hey, that sucks. at least you figured it out and can stop troubleshooting the software side of things
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1141 [10:24:37] <alkisg> Hi, apt complains that this repository of mine [replaced-url
1142 [10:24:38] <alkisg> I read in replaced-url
1143 [10:24:38] <alkisg> But my repository also has sha256... Reprepro doesn't yet support sha512, is the solution to just completely remove sha1?
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1166 [10:37:30] <gr8> so, I have an email provider that allows aliases both for sending and receiving. I am looking for an easy to use email client that allows sending emails FROM arbitrary addresses, without creating a dedicated "account" for each address. Any ideas?
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1192 [11:01:10] <zoomgry_> gr8: what environment?
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1196 [11:01:57] <gr8> zoomgry_: desktop? XFCE, but how does that matter?
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1198 [11:02:35] <jelly> I guess you probably wouldn't consider mutt as easy to use
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1210 [11:11:06] <dutchfish> alkisg, have a peak in here, if i am not mistaken they are working on that
1211 [11:11:12] <dutchfish> alkisg, replaced-url
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1216 [11:13:08] <alkisg> dutchfish: thanks, which one of the projects are you referring to? apt<-> dpkg communication rework?
1217 [11:13:18] <dutchfish> alkisg, also here replaced-url
1218 [11:13:28] <dutchfish> alkisg, yes
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1222 [11:14:51] <alkisg> dutchfish: I think the sums aren't the issue, as reprepro already includes sha256 sums, I think the issue is the signature... I worry that my dsa key can't produce sha256 signatures, according to this vbox thread: replaced-url
1223 [11:15:20] <zoomgry_> gr8: sylpheed can't but claws mail can. Was just looking for something that isn't completely alien to your environment.
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1227 [11:17:17] <zoomgry_> jelly: I was about to suggest emacs rmail, but I didn't want to assume the folk is a emacs user with the kitchen sink on top! :-)
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1232 [11:18:09] <dutchfish> alkisg, replaced-url
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1234 [11:18:38] <gr8> zoomgry_: wow you're right! I was using Sylpheed before so I assumed Claws would not have that as well
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1236 [11:18:45] <dutchfish> alkisg, i dont know anything about vbox, since i dont use it, instead debhlper/dbuild
1237 [11:18:58] <alkisg> dutchfish: I think I need to tell reprepro to pass "--digest-algo SHA512 to gpg" to gpg
1238 [11:18:58] <zoomgry_> gr8: I just installed (and then removed) both of them to test. Claws just worked.
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1240 [11:19:13] <gr8> zoomgry_: thanks for your help!
1241 [11:19:20] <zoomgry_> gr8: congratulations on finding. :-) You're welcome.
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1245 [11:19:56] <dutchfish> alkisg, look at default-preference-list inside the create key link
1246 [11:20:36] <dutchfish> alkisg, its in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
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1248 [11:20:51] <dutchfish> alkisg, and debhelper uses that
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1250 [11:21:28] <dutchfish> alkisg, repepro needs still to be fixed
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1252 [11:21:47] <dutchfish> alkisg, but as i said i believe thats on the agenda
1253 [11:21:51] <alkisg> dutchfish: thanks, I did that part but reprepro doesn't seem to use it, I also tried exporting GNUPGHOME=$HOME/.gnupg but that didn't work either...
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1255 [11:21:59] <dutchfish> alkisg, correct
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1257 [11:22:01] <alkisg> I'll try to use a wrapper
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1259 [11:22:16] <alkisg> (a wrapper gpg script that reprepro will go through...)
1260 [11:22:48] <dutchfish> alkisg, you can try that, but better patch the reprepro and publish that fix to the miantainers
1261 [11:23:09] <alkisg> I'll have to see if that's the issue first...
1262 [11:23:17] <dutchfish> alkisg, anyway, good luck
1263 [11:23:38] <alkisg> thanks a lot dutchfish!
1264 [11:23:43] <dutchfish> alkisg, yw
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1297 [11:43:23] <twnqx> hi! what's the equivalent of /etc/inittab with current debians?
1298 [11:43:41] * twnqx would like to stop X from trying to start
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1304 [11:45:03] <aphixe> hello guys. for some reason, on my old 32 bit intel system, when i installed it debian as netinstall it said couldn't connect mirror, so i installed base. and now its asking for login and password, yet i never set it up. is there a default
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1317 [11:49:43] <jelly> twnqx: probably something like "systemctl disable gdm" or whatever the service used by your DM
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1329 [11:52:30] <twnqx> thanks.
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1335 [11:54:30] <aphixe> any suggestions for my issue
1336 [11:54:40] <xcel> echo %woO
1337 [11:54:45] <xcel> oops
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1394 [12:23:36] <Gabs5807> #aphixe boot from netinstall media, go step by step through the installation until the disk are found, then swith to an other console tty and mount the root partition. Now you can delete any password from /etc/shadow.
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1405 [12:27:59] <Gabs5807> aphixe: boot from netinstall media, go step by step through the installation until the disk are found, then swith to an other console tty and mount the root partition. Now you can delete any password from /etc/shadow.
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1453 [12:45:19] <Rovanion> When openssl is upgraded, are the dependant services such as sshd automatically restarted?
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1460 [12:48:12] <teraflops> look at the postinst script?
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1462 [12:48:24] <jelly> dpkg, tell Rovanion about needrestart
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1464 [12:48:49] <jelly> or not.
1465 [12:48:57] <jelly> judd: info needrestart
1466 [12:49:00] <judd> Package needrestart (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: check which daemons need to be restarted after library upgrades. Version: 1.2-8+deb8u1; Size: 22.8k; Installed: 186k; Homepage: replaced-url
1467 [12:49:07] <jelly> Rovanion: ^^ consider having that installed.
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1478 [12:53:57] <mosasaur> maybe it's a stupid question but when I (on jessie) do an apt-get update followed by an apt-get upgrade there's nothing to do for the upgrade, while ubuntu always upgrades some package. Should I be worried for missing out?
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1520 [13:12:08] <TomTomTosch> mosasaur: the output of 'apt-cache policy' to paste.debian.net please.
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1540 [13:17:53] <mosasaur> TomTomTosch: that makes me a bit paranoid, so no, but thanks for the tip anyway, I see that there's probably something wrong
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1543 [13:18:40] <TomTomTosch> !tell mosasaur about jessie sources.list
1544 [13:19:01] <TomTomTosch> mosasaur: then check if your sources.list matches with what the bot said.
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1546 [13:20:46] <mosasaur> TomTomTosch: will do, thanks a lot
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1561 [13:33:40] <AnonRecluse13> hey guys, has anyone used the ARM64-netinst.iso on a raspberry pi?
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1563 [13:34:14] <AnonRecluse13> could i use unetbootin to pop it onto a micro sdxc and pop it in my pi top?
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1565 [13:35:13] <AnonRecluse13> i am a Slackware user but development for it has ceased for ARM platforms like the Pi 3, I used to use Debian a few years ago.
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1568 [13:37:18] <AnonRecluse13> i was planning on buying a pi-top and a RPi3 and building it with slackware on it, but if there is a version of Debian built for 64bit ARM chips, that would be awesome
1569 [13:37:45] <AnonRecluse13> sorry for such a ramble, im going to have a smoke. Excuse me.
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1607 [13:56:13] <mosasaur> /me successfully upgrades 245 mb of software
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1651 [14:13:09] <dutchfish> jelly, can i use libproc-processtable-perl libsort-naturally-perl libmodule-scandeps-perl libterm-readkey-perl from stable while using needrestart from bpo?
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1655 [14:14:11] <dutchfish> jelly, it ports back fine with libmodule-find-perl from stable
1656 [14:14:19] <anoop> hello guys, I came up with a new way of representing IPv6 addresses , replaced-url
1657 [14:15:19] <Dagger> anoop: try DNS instead
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1662 [14:17:46] <jml2> Dagger, lol
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1665 [14:18:14] <jelly> dutchfish, that's how jessie-backports are supposed to work yes
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1668 [14:18:41] <dutchfish> jelly, ok, thanks
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1670 [14:19:00] <jelly> you should not have to care about dependencies manually at all
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1681 [14:21:09] <jelly> AnonRecluse13, try asking in #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org). Different irc network from this one.
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1696 [14:27:02] <jelly> dutchfish: in fact I don't see any backports available for libintl-perl libproc-processtable-perl libsort-naturally-perl libmodule-scandeps-perl libterm-readkey-perl libmodule-find-perl ... so, there's no other option but versions from jessie
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1700 [14:27:52] <dutchfish> jelly, ok, thanks again, it was a bit unclear to me, since i dont use bpo as repo on this stable system, but i do need latest needrestart. Thanks again
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1714 [14:33:17] <AnonRecluse13> thank you jelly
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1732 [14:42:47] <Aebian> is that a normal behavior to get a "permission denied" on a folder with 740 and files with 640? My webuser is the owner of the file but I can't cd inside it. Alltough I can do a ls -la ?! I tought permissions are like Owner | Group | Everyone so my webuser has bit 7 on the folder so fullaccess ?
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1738 [14:45:11] <abrotman> Aebian: show us in a pastebin
1739 [14:45:35] <Aebian> abrotman: what should I show? the set permissions?
1740 [14:46:01] <jelly> and also point out which user and group is the web server running in
1741 [14:46:01] <abrotman> sure
1742 [14:46:07] <jelly> s/in/as/
1743 [14:47:04] <jelly> Aebian: you need +x permissions to "cd inside"
1744 [14:47:26] <jelly> how your user is going to get an effective +x is different story
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1751 [14:48:35] <Aebian> replaced-url
1752 [14:48:53] <Aebian> that are the permissions + the webuser + group info
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1758 [14:53:09] <abrotman> can you type "id" and show us the error changing diretories?
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1760 [14:53:49] <Aebian> stpuser@sx /home/aebian % id /online/replaced-url
1761 [14:53:52] <Aebian> id: /online/replaced-url
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1763 [14:53:59] <Aebian> you mean that?
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1769 [14:54:29] <jelly> Aebian: no, just "id", nothing more
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1772 [14:55:02] <Aebian> uid=1002(stpuser) gid=33(replaced-url
1773 [14:56:02] <jelly> Aebian: that user ought to be able to cd into /online/replaced-url
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1775 [14:57:02] <jelly> Aebian: so look at ls -ld / /online /online/replaced-url
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1826 [15:20:10] <Angelica> Hey guys, i just purchased a dedicated VPS running Deb8, is there a way to find out if the machine can support kvm/virtualization
1827 [15:20:20] <Angelica> it came with 5 ips so i'm assuming it can
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1841 [15:25:45] <donoban> Angelica: try: cat /proc/cpuinfo
1842 [15:26:01] <donoban> also: dmesg | grep kvm
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1847 [15:29:16] <Angelica> donoban: Okie, here is the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo: replaced-url
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1849 [15:30:14] <Angelica> donoban: and here is the output of dmesg | grep kvm - replaced-url
1850 [15:31:05] <donoban> uhm, do you want to do nested virtualization?
1851 [15:31:59] <Angelica> donoban: is that bad? xD
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1854 [15:32:39] <donoban> no no, but I'm not sure if it needs something spsecial for working properly
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1858 [15:34:08] <donoban> I think you don't have any flag which tells the CPU has virt extensions
1859 [15:34:38] <Angelica> donoban: oh :x
1860 [15:35:02] <Angelica> donoban: could i just throw a gui on the server and then run virtualbox? or is that not secure
1861 [15:35:10] <Angelica> donoban: i want my server to remain secure
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1863 [15:36:13] <donoban> I don't think virtualbox is a good option for doing this...
1864 [15:36:47] <donoban> do you need GUI on the server? maybe Windows VM's?
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1866 [15:37:12] <Angelica> donoban: I just meant so I could manage virtualbox, managing VB via shell seems meh
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1870 [15:38:27] <donoban> maybe you can run libvirt and manage it with remote GUI, or open a VM for managing it and enter to it with VNC
1871 [15:38:56] <donoban> if you dont need windows, maybe lxc are a better option than KVM
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1873 [15:39:30] <donoban> I wouldn't think on virtualbox, it's a end-user virtualization system, made for being "easy". It's not for a server enviroment
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1877 [15:40:00] <Angelica> donoban: okay, thank you :)
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1882 [15:41:44] <donoban> what I think is that your VPS has no nested virtualization enabled (which seems the most common), so if you try to do something with virtualzation don't except very good performance
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1884 [15:42:16] <Angelica> donoban: okay
1885 [15:42:22] <floogy> Hi, I'm not able to upgrade from squeeze-lts to wheezy (lts), due to LANG=en apt-get install apt -t wheezy -o APT::Immediate-Configure=0
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1887 [15:42:26] <floogy> ...
1888 [15:42:39] <floogy> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'mysql-server-5.5'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
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1891 [15:43:02] <floogy> replaced-url
1892 [15:43:02] <Angelica> donoban: thanks again
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1896 [15:44:25] <floogy> This will NOT only update apt from apt(squeeze) to apt(wheezy) it seems to try updating the whole system like dist-upgrade.
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1899 [15:45:01] <donoban> floogy I have no idea, maybe you get more luck on #debian-lts
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1901 [15:45:29] <floogy> ok, thank you.
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1903 [15:45:32] <donoban> at otfc.net
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1905 [15:45:43] <donoban> irc.otfc.net
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1907 [15:46:19] <floogy> OFTC?
1908 [15:46:31] <donoban> uhM
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1910 [15:46:44] <donoban> lol yes
1911 [15:46:51] <donoban> sorry :P
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1914 [15:46:55] <floogy> It's not in my hexchat list.
1915 [15:47:00] <floogy> ok, thx.
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1918 [15:47:31] <donoban> there is also irc.debian.org, but IIRC it's a redirect to oftc
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1942 [15:56:52] <kangelane> I just launched the default debian-8.4 image and I cannot log into it ... ssh is not working with pem and the user is supposed to be admin without password, but it says permission denied whatever I do. help ?
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1945 [15:57:37] <kangelane> sorry this is the openstack debian image
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1957 [16:05:27] <frostie> why does not vivaldi browser detect adobe flash nor pepper flash? installed both and non is detect by vivaldi browser in debian 8 x64??
1958 [16:06:32] <frostie> vivaldi browser is a chromium based browser and should detect pepper flash?
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1961 [16:07:31] <kangelane> well I used wrong username, it was debian, but how am I supposed to know that ? And I used a key, no idea what the password was.
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1963 [16:07:37] <donoban> does anyone know when replaced-url
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1966 [16:08:06] <frostie> so how do i make vivaldi browser notice pepper flash?
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1969 [16:09:44] <themill> donoban: roundcube in jessie will never change
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1972 [16:10:19] <themill> for jessie-backports, you'd need to contact the backporter or the backports mailing list
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1976 [16:10:59] <donoban> themill: also on backports?
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1978 [16:11:57] <donoban> themill: I've already sent a mail but it isn't approved yet
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1980 [16:12:44] <frostie> this came up in the terminal: replaced-url
1981 [16:12:45] <donoban> well, I sent it to roundcube mantainers
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1995 [16:23:08] <lucas-arg> hello all...
1996 [16:23:16] <lucas-arg> one litle question if anyone can help me
1997 [16:23:25] <lucas-arg> how do i add backports to my debian ??
1998 [16:23:43] <themill> replaced-url
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2021 [16:45:52] <lucas-arg> how to play mp4 files??
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2023 [16:45:58] <lucas-arg> cant get them to work with totem
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2026 [16:47:09] <jelly> lucas-arg: huh, they ought to work. Try mpv instead
2027 [16:47:15] <baum> with "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs noatime,nosuid 0 0" in my etc/fstab file my root partition boots read-only. by chance anyone can tell me why that's the case?
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2029 [16:47:54] <AimHere> lucas-arg, vlc should work too
2030 [16:48:10] <jelly> baum: are you talking about /tmp or / filesystem when you say "boots read-only"?
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2032 [16:48:28] <lucas-arg> AimHere, but why cant i play it with totem??
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2034 [16:48:53] <baum> jelly: actually both
2035 [16:49:17] <jelly> lucas-arg: hard to say. What if you close all running totem processes, open a terminal, run "totem /path/to/your.mp4" and see if there's any useful output in the terminal?
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2037 [16:49:31] <jelly> lucas-arg: which debian release is this?
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2039 [16:49:36] <lucas-arg> 8.4
2040 [16:49:38] <lucas-arg> lastest
2041 [16:49:40] <lucas-arg> i guess
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2043 [16:49:47] <lucas-arg> ill try
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2045 [16:50:12] <nikolov> how to use full hd resolution radeon free driver
2046 [16:50:22] <nikolov> conf
2047 [16:50:26] <nikolov> x.org
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2049 [16:51:21] <baum> can it be that /tmp fails - thus the system uses / by default, and it's read-only since it's some kind of failsafe mode?
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2051 [16:51:40] <lucas-arg> this is what i get when i try to open a mp4 with totem replaced-url
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2055 [16:53:00] <jelly> lucas-arg: sadly that's not relevant at all. Does audio fail or video fail or both? Does totem complain of anything? Does the UI appear as if the media is playing, but nothing is visible?
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2059 [16:53:37] <jelly> lucas-arg: and also what happens with mpv or vlc?
2060 [16:54:01] <lucas-arg> vlc plays it ok
2061 [16:54:14] <lucas-arg> both video and audio
2062 [16:54:31] <lucas-arg> totem does not complain about anything it shows a white screen
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2064 [16:55:03] <jelly> does it tick seconds and move the progress bar, or does it think it's not playing at all?
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2066 [16:55:38] <lucas-arg> i think i had to install gstreamer1....plugins
2067 [16:55:43] <lucas-arg> ill see what happens
2068 [16:55:50] <lucas-arg> i did install gstreamer0....
2069 [16:55:51] <lucas-arg> not 1..
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2072 [16:57:15] <lucas-arg> nope that did not help
2073 [16:59:15] <jelly> lucas-arg: gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly are in Recommends, are they installed now?
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2075 [17:00:47] <lucas-arg> yup
2076 [17:00:49] <lucas-arg> they are
2077 [17:00:54] <lucas-arg> i might reboot the system??
2078 [17:01:01] <lucas-arg> after installation?
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2080 [17:01:38] <TomTomTosch> no, i don't think it would help.
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2082 [17:02:22] <lucas-arg> ive installed all
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2084 [17:02:38] <lucas-arg> sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0* and gstreamer0.10*
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2086 [17:02:57] <lucas-arg> maybe thats the problem?
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2090 [17:04:43] <lucas-arg> nope
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2093 [17:04:49] <lucas-arg> didnt help either
2094 [17:05:38] <lucas-arg> what am i doin wrong?!
2095 [17:07:00] <emr> Hello, i created init script on /etc/init, so whats next? is it going to execute on defined runlevels or do i need to call something like update-rc.d?
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2262 [18:33:26] <wsky> like the os sometimes does not hiberante at all but partially shuts computer down
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2264 [18:33:57] <wsky> but not entirely so it has to be rebooted and booted again anyway
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2295 [18:42:07] <frostie> hi, i had some issues with pepper flash plugin and i found this: replaced-url
2296 [18:42:21] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2298 [18:44:06] <frostie> so it is replaced-url
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2302 [18:47:35] <frostie> didnt help... still same issue i do: wget replaced-url
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2316 [18:54:39] <xormor> how does proposed-updates differ from updates in /etc/apt/sources.list?
2317 [18:54:51] <xormor> are proposed-updates less safe/secure?
2318 [18:55:09] <frostie> anyways it seems to be an error with different key id also, after read the bug report, so i can wait for update.
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2323 [18:57:17] <y014> Hi, could someone point me in the right direction ? I have AMD CPU with built in graphics onto which I have connected 1st monitor over hdmi. I have also radeon 5 and second monitor is attached to it. Since I am using radeon drivers only second monitor is detected
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2329 [18:59:13] <frostie> proposed updates as i understand are testing packages before they end up in the repos
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2336 [19:02:21] <marcv> Hello. I'm on a debian Jessie VPS. Some script is trying to read the kernel config in /boot/config-$(uname -r), however my /boot dir is empty. Am I missing some package?
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2338 [19:03:00] <y014> marcv: you might be on container
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2341 [19:03:37] <y014> marcv: whats your kernel ?
2342 [19:03:52] <marcv> 2.6.32-042stab111.12
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2347 [19:05:17] <frostie> xormor: replaced-url
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2349 [19:07:17] <y014> marcv: yep. You're on OpenVZ container. You cant change kernel nor boot options.
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2351 [19:08:16] <y014> marcv: meaning, anything that tries to access /boot od load kernel modules will fail
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2353 [19:08:45] <marcv> y014: Thanks for the info. The fact is I'm trying to install docker and it won't, whith messages I don't understand. I was running a docker config check script and the first message it gives me is it can't find the kernel config. Maybe I'll ask on #docker. Thanks again.
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2357 [19:09:44] <y014> marcv: replaced-url
2358 [19:10:51] <marcv> Nice! thanks y014
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2360 [19:11:31] <awwal> Why qemu/kvm wont (via virt-manager) won't let assign more then 2047 mb for the gest VM?
2361 [19:11:52] <awwal> 2047 mb ram ^
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2364 [19:12:53] <y014> awwal: is it 32bit host ?
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2367 [19:13:39] <awwal> y014, yes jessie i386. I was wthinking if that is because the arch is i386. it is so?
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2369 [19:14:35] <y014> awwal: yes, its to do with i386. in 64bit you can go higher than that
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2373 [19:15:16] <y014> awwal: PAE doent work with virtualization
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2385 [19:18:47] <sshine> hrm, apparently my VPS running Debian fails at UTF-8. it has LANG and LC_* set properly, it seems, but if I write a symbol like π, it messes up.
2386 [19:18:48] <awwal> y014, my host is jessie i386 pae kernel; and virtualization works just fine (once enbaled in bios). my guest is also jessie i386 pae kernel. Virtualbox lets me up to 4 mb and have a feature for enable pae stuff for the guest, I guess qemu/kvm enables that by default.
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2388 [19:19:21] <awwal> vbox lets me assign up to 4 mb ram ^
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2392 [19:21:23] <y014> awwal: on KVM PAE doesnt work. So it treats your host as you would not use PAE kernel. Meaning that it can assing only 2047 MB of ram to VM as host needs to have memory is well which is the rest available from ~4GB
2393 [19:22:28] <y014> awwal: replaced-url
2394 [19:22:38] <awwal> y014, ok, ok. thanks for the info ;)
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2408 [19:31:23] <dontknow> can i make title bar disappear for gtk3 apps without using compton on xfce?
2409 [19:32:56] <dontknow> without using compositor to be more precise
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2411 [19:33:43] <dontknow> when using compositor there is no title bar for gtk3 apps
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2414 [19:34:00] <dontknow> anyone?
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2426 [19:38:11] <nkuttler> dpkg: crystalhd
2427 [19:38:11] <dpkg> The Broadcom BCM70012 and BCM70015 "Crystal HD" chipsets are high definition video decoders/processors. Broadcom's Crystal HD driver is part of the Linux kernel's staging tree since Linux 2.6.34, this is not enabled in Debian Linux kernel images (see <kernel handbook> to rebuild); firmware is required and packaged as firmware-crystalhd in <non-free>. The Crystal HD shared library is packaged as libcrystalhd3.
2428 [19:38:30] <nkuttler> that doesn't seem accurate? i have a /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/staging/crystalhd/crystalhd.ko
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2434 [19:42:05] <shibly> I've run this aptitude --purge remove openjdk-7-jdk , but java -version still remains
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2436 [19:42:13] <shibly> How can i completely remove java ?
2437 [19:42:52] <markybob> shibly: remove jre as well
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2443 [19:44:41] <shibly> I've removed openjdk-7-jre too.
2444 [19:44:59] <shibly> Oh, I had to remove this : sudo aptitude --purge remove openjdk-7-jre-headless , now it looks java is gone
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2447 [19:45:46] <markybob> fyi for the future...you can use wildcards. so openjdk*
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2464 [19:52:02] <asterismo> !dpkg bpo
2465 [19:52:02] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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2521 [20:13:40] <MrHanki> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz (2.30GHz) • Memory: 7.8 GiB Total (4.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 165.1 GiB / 213.6 GiB (48.5 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M, Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 • Uptime: 16m 37s
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2523 [20:14:52] <ryouma> what does htis mean? tried googling, nobody seems to know what action 19 is. rsyslogd "action 'action 19' suspended, next retry is"
2524 [20:14:56] <dontknow> MrHanki, lol windows 10
2525 [20:15:12] <markybob> MrHanki: we were all so curious. thank you so much.
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2554 [20:29:09] <qqz> I have the exact image of a blue ray in a HDD partition
2555 [20:29:35] <qqz> however when I change cdrom:// to file:/// apt-get install complains that it would not have the necessary keyrings.
2556 [20:29:43] <qqz> how is that possible?
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2613 [21:04:11] * zykotick9 kinda thinks any install that is not netinst based (with possible local caching services running) is "doing it wrong"... but ymmv (and i can see the possible requirement for offline installing... but what a pain)
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2617 [21:05:01] <Vax11780> hello
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2622 [21:06:14] <Vax11780> hi
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2624 [21:07:16] <zykotick9> Vax11780: do you have a question about debian? if so, you should just go ahead and ask it (lots of detail, and all on one line) PS. no need for hello/hi in irc channels, just blert out your question and see is someone replies ;) good luck.
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2659 [21:23:56] <tharkun> What is the standard debian way of checking that a disk is working properly?
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2661 [21:24:33] <dagerik> tharkun: smartctl
2662 [21:24:38] <dagerik> SMART
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2672 [21:27:46] <tharkun> dagerik: Thanks :)
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2674 [21:28:51] <floogy> Hi, on a Virtuozzo Server with low memory mysql does not start. I get mysqld: InnoDB: Error: pthread_create returned 11
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2680 [21:29:51] <floogy> cat /proc/user_beancounters gives failcnt on privvmpages
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2682 [21:30:31] <floogy> I also tried this tuning: replaced-url
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2693 [21:35:58] <buu> Guys
2694 [21:36:16] <buu> How does X tell when a monitor is plugged in? And more importantly, how do I query for this information?
2695 [21:36:35] <zinx> DDC, and there's probably more than one way
2696 [21:36:39] <tharkun> buu: xrandr
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2698 [21:36:48] <zinx> and the right way does not involve DDC directly :)
2699 [21:36:54] <ryouma> buu: there is something i know nothing about called the i2c bus that might be related
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2701 [21:37:06] <zinx> well, i guess there's a non-DDC connected signal too
2702 [21:37:24] <zinx> ryouma: that's DDC
2703 [21:37:31] <ryouma> zinx: yeah
2704 [21:37:35] <buu> signal?
2705 [21:37:42] <buu> Like something I can catch?
2706 [21:37:52] <zinx> no
2707 [21:37:56] <ryouma> buu: you can query by grepping logs for your usb hub being connected or disconnected
2708 [21:37:58] <zinx> physical thing
2709 [21:38:02] <buu> .. usb?
2710 [21:38:04] <buu> what
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2713 [21:38:14] <tharkun> buu: What are you trying to acomplish?
2714 [21:38:14] <ryouma> buu: that's what i do
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2716 [21:38:23] <buu> ryouma: How is your monitor related to usb?
2717 [21:38:53] <buu> tharkun: I'm trying to work around the long, long outstanding bug where xorg will deallocate a monitor when it is turned off but not reallocate it when it is turned back on
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2720 [21:39:19] <ryouma> your usecase might be different, but if some monitors are turned off, their usb hubs lsoe power
2721 [21:39:40] <buu> Oddly my monitor doesn't have a usb hub.
2722 [21:39:42] <buu> ...
2723 [21:39:46] <ryouma> i'd sure like to have a direct (ddc presumably) way of telling when a monitor is turned off
2724 [21:39:46] <tharkun> buu: That one, report back when you do it. I tried and failed :(
2725 [21:40:09] <tharkun> Still the way xrandr works might be of help for you.
2726 [21:40:10] <buu> tharkun: I used to have a solution that involved tailing syslog for the INVALID EDID message from my hdmi port
2727 [21:40:28] <buu> Yeah, xrandr definitely notices
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2729 [21:40:43] <buu> But I'm trying to find something slightly more clever than calling xrandr in a loop infinitely
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2731 [21:41:38] <buu> connect(3, {sa_family=AF_LOCAL, sun_path=@"/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 20) = 0
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2749 [21:49:51] <relipse2> all of a sudden mysql won't restart or allow me to connect: service mysql restart Job for mysql.service failed. See 'systemctl status mysql.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
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2772 [22:04:40] <jmcnaught> relipse2: what do the details say? you can also add "-u mysql" to that journalctl to narrow it to messages from mysql
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2816 [22:29:13] <mefistoteles> hello, I use MSI wind u135dx, a netbook with power boost button for CPU, it boost processor from 1.7GHz to 2.1GHz. At least at windows, at linux it do nothing. Is there a way to overclock CPU at linux without playing with bios?
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2837 [22:39:11] <countbackula> GUYS! HELP! I'm installing Deebs on a new laptop and I didn't notice the power was low- it effing DIED during the final steps of installation. Post disk-encryption, partition, everything. I'm not sure how to even power it back on.
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2841 [22:40:04] <countbackula> Macbook pro retina mid 2014, dual booted. Anyone have any experience with a disaster like this?
2842 [22:40:40] <tme5> final steps, do you remember what exactly?
2843 [22:40:48] <tme5> package install?
2844 [22:41:18] <TomTomTosch> countbackula: you can just repeat the installation if you are not sure.
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2846 [22:41:30] <countbackula> yeah, post dpkg... there was about 10% left at system installation
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2848 [22:42:53] <tme5> maybe you could try to boot, and finish install?
2849 [22:43:13] <tme5> is there some meta-package for base debian? idk
2850 [22:43:21] <countbackula> You know what, nevermind. Worst case scenario I just re-boot into OS X and re-gdisk the encrypted volumes
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2853 [22:44:01] <countbackula> Thanks anyway- I just panicked and hopped into this room
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2864 [22:49:05] <buu> Breaking news
2865 [22:49:07] <buu> xorg is the devil
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2877 [22:58:42] <buu> lol, I turned off the receiver and it hardlocked X
2878 [23:00:17] <buu> And the video card
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2899 [23:09:34] <awwal> Is there any pkg similar to microsoft outlook and with similar features?
2900 [23:10:51] <markybob> evolution is the closest thing
2901 [23:11:24] <markybob> i hate it. i use geary
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2906 [23:12:20] <awwal> markybob, I have tried evolution too but I hate it too xD , but never heard about geary; I will try it. thanks
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2908 [23:13:34] <jmcnaught> icedove + iceowl (aka thunderbird + lightning). or for KDE there's some sort of combo with KMail and others
2909 [23:13:55] <markybob> yeah but mozilla pretty much gave up on thunderbird
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2914 [23:17:10] <Pr0metheus> i use evolution cause of caldav & carddav + contacts & calendar integrate with gnome, if you get used to its drawbacks and the lag you can use it:)
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2935 [23:25:18] <jmcnaught> i'm hoping that thunderbird will get adopted by the document foundation and get better intergrated with libreoffice or something.. i don't think thunderbird's story is over yet
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2961 [23:38:17] <prussian> I've been using evolution as well, but I'm wondering why I don't have spell check
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2964 [23:40:03] <markybob> prussian: you probably don't have the aspell dictionary installed for your language
2965 [23:40:27] <prussian> hmm, I thought I had hunspell. let me check
2966 [23:40:52] <markybob> so? evolution uses aspell
2967 [23:40:55] <prussian> aspell-en is already the newest version (7.1-0-1.1).
2968 [23:40:57] <prussian> ya
2969 [23:40:58] <prussian> weird
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2971 [23:41:15] <prussian> I'll look into it later
2972 [23:41:23] <prussian> or go back to thunderbird.
2973 [23:41:25] <prussian> idk
2974 [23:41:47] <gr8> is there another mail client like Claws mail that lets me set the sender address by hand, but is not Claws?
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2979 [23:44:09] <jmcnaught> gr8: Icedove lets you configure identities for an account, and then when you send an email you can select the identity by using a dropdown in the from field
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2994 [23:51:31] <gr8> jmcnaught: oh really? I thought you had to create another account. Thanks, I'll take a look
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2996 [23:52:13] <jmcnaught> gr8: there's a "manage identities" button on the account preferences, and it has a default identity for each account
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2998 [23:52:35] <gr8> I have found this (replaced-url
2999 [23:53:14] <gr8> can Icedove use ML format?
3000 [23:53:57] <gr8> eh, MH
3001 [23:54:14] <jmcnaught> MH?
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3004 [23:54:34] <gr8> yes MH all my mail is in MH format. One mail per file
3005 [23:54:53] <gr8> I get MUCH email so that's better performance
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3009 [23:55:58] <gr8> replaced-url
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3012 [23:57:07] <gr8> ok it's called maildir now replaced-url
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3014 [23:57:24] <tga> what's the secret for getting xfce and gtk3 themes to play nice together?
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3016 [23:58:27] <tga> afaik greybird should also work with gtk3, but in testing it doesn't
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