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• 7[00:07:25] <teraflops> wegg: idk what bazaar is. Idk if there is already a URL hander. You might create your own one though.
• 8[00:08:29] <ryouma> bazaar might be a dvcs
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• 11[00:08:47] <dax> openbazaar is a bitcoin marketplace thing
• 12[00:08:55] <dax> unrelated to the dvcs
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• 14[00:09:03] <ryouma> aha
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• 17[00:09:34] <teraflops> Well you can create custom uri handlers
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• 32[00:20:52] <wegg> xdg-mime worked. When I click on an ob:// link in chrome it opens openbazaar.
• 33[00:21:07] <wegg> but openbazaar doesn't take me to the link I clicked on. . .
• 34[00:21:21] <wegg> it opens it but doesn't take it that step further.
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• 42[00:27:36] <teraflops> wegg: create a desktop file and set the command to chromium %s or whatever it uses, look at an existing .desktop file
• 43[00:29:01] <koris> hm. I don't know much about systemd or sysvinit myself - can someone tell me why systemd was put in Jessie? I'm not complaining but I want to know why so many people are removing it from their systems
• 44[00:29:31] <cra1g321> koris, best to talk about it in #debian-offtopic
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• 46[00:30:17] <koris> I see, thank you
• 47[00:30:25] <jmcnaught> koris: there's a lot of FUD about systemd which can be difficult to separate from legit complaints, but the decision was made by the Debian technical committee (CTTE) in 2014 during the development of Jessie. If you do some digging you'll find the discussions
• 48[00:30:35] <teraflops> wegg: not sure, I guess it's Exec=chromium %u
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• 55[00:35:57] <aguitel> anyway to install firefox in jessie ?
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• 57[00:36:13] <markybob> aguitel: mozilla.debian.net
• 58[00:36:21] <teraflops> you'll miss good old iceweasel :P
• 59[00:36:24] <aguitel> a ok
• 60[00:37:20] <TomTomTosch> teraflops: replaced-url
• 61[00:37:27] <teraflops> oh
• 62[00:38:14] <teraflops> TomTomTosch: hey it's for ff 45, 46 is the current one in debian jessie :P
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• 64[00:38:56] <teraflops> well in mozilla.debian.net for jessie
• 65[00:39:36] <TomTomTosch> oh no. damn software isn't supposed to change. what is this, arch?!
• 66[00:39:42] <teraflops> heh
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• 69[00:40:26] <markybob> i really don't know how people deal with rolling distros. i'd fucking shoot someone
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• 72[00:40:53] <teraflops> markybob: I do arch in my workstation, and it's ok for m
• 73[00:40:55] <teraflops> me*
• 74[00:41:09] <teraflops> note the _for me_
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• 77[00:41:48] <teraflops> I suppose is the same as running sid
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• 90[00:46:08] <Martyn> Anyone here have experience with virtual machines and using bridging to DHCP boot? ( br0 )(
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• 92[00:46:46] <teraflops> Martyn: what's the real question?
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• 94[00:47:04] <Martyn> I'm having issues getting DCHP booting using libvirt+KVM+br0 on debian 6
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• 96[00:47:21] <Martyn> replaced-url
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• 98[00:47:29] <Martyn> domain configuration : replaced-url
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• 100[00:47:40] <Martyn> What could prevent a virtual machine from seeing the network properly on br0 such that it can't DHCP/PXE?
• 101[00:47:55] <teraflops> Martyn: are you doing pxe?
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• 104[00:48:34] <Martyn> yep
• 105[00:48:47] <Martyn> pxe, and I'm simulating a rtl8139
• 106[00:48:47] <teraflops> ah
• 107[00:48:50] <aguitel> how choose with synaptic fastest mirror ? no option in
• 108[00:48:52] <Martyn> I've also simulated an e1000
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• 117[00:52:05] <Martyn> I have ip_forward enabled
• 118[00:52:10] <Martyn> here's the ifconfig
• 119[00:52:27] <Martyn> @sf111:~# brctl show
• 120[00:52:27] <Martyn> bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces
• 121[00:52:29] <Martyn> br0 8000.0cc47a696f70 no bond0
• 122[00:52:29] <Martyn> vnet0
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• 127[00:52:40] <Martyn> Ack
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• 131[00:53:53] <Kirito> !make-kpkg
• 132[00:53:53] <dpkg> make-kpkg is no longer the recommended method for building kernel packages. See <kernel handbook> for current instructions. It can be used to make a debian package for a custom kernel. See man make-kpkg, <kp mantra>. NOTE it does not automatically create header packages, needed for module-assistant and dkms.
• 133[00:54:09] <Kirito> :|
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• 135[00:54:22] <markybob> make-kpkg sucks
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• 138[00:54:35] <Kirito> I was hoping for an actual link in place of <kernel handbook>
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• 140[00:54:47] <Kirito> !<kernel handbook>
• 141[00:54:53] <markybob> Kirito: replaced-url
• 142[00:54:56] <Kirito> thank you
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• 144[00:55:07] <markybob> Kirito: you probably want 4.5 and 4.6
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• 146[00:55:27] <Kirito> Yep yep
• 147[00:55:33] <jmcnaught> Martyn: does the VM get connected to the network if it boots from an ISO or disk image?
• 148[00:55:41] <Martyn> nope
• 149[00:55:44] <jmcnaught> Kirito: FYI you can message the bot
• 150[00:55:53] <Kirito> Oh, hah, right >_>
• 151[00:55:56] <Martyn> no connectivity .. which is odd, because br0 -is- working. The host itself has connectivity
• 152[00:56:15] <Martyn> so the domain host has networking through br0, but the virtual guest does not
• 153[00:56:51] <jmcnaught> Martyn: have you tried with something newer than squeeze?
• 154[00:56:52] <markybob> Kirito: now i need to ask why
• 155[00:57:10] <Martyn> jmcnaught : Not an option(tm) .. this is on a production machine.
• 156[00:57:24] <Martyn> squeeze-lts is what I have to work with, until The Upgrade(tm) happens to jessie
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• 158[00:57:32] <Martyn> but this -is- working on other machines
• 159[00:57:40] <TomTomTosch> that's two things you don't want to have together >.>
• 160[00:57:40] <Martyn> so I must be missing something basic, somehow
• 161[00:57:48] <TomTomTosch> there is no squeeze-lts anymore.
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• 163[00:57:50] <jmcnaught> Martyn: squeeze-lts finished in february, no more security for squeeze
• 164[00:57:53] <Martyn> Yes, I'm aware
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• 166[00:57:57] <Martyn> Move on, keep on topic
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• 168[00:58:18] <Martyn> This =does= work on another machine, on the same cluster
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• 170[00:58:53] <markybob> Kirito: you know jessie-backports has kernel 4.5, right?
• 171[00:58:54] <Kirito> markybob, Just general improvements. blk-mq became feature complete in just 3.16, but I believe it's had some notable improvements since.
• 172[00:59:09] <Kirito> oh, does it?
• 173[00:59:15] <markybob> Kirito: yes sir
• 174[00:59:23] <Kirito> I thought that would be too new for backports, awesome then, thanks
• 175[00:59:37] <jmcnaught> Martyn: honestly you should consider upgrading production machines to at least wheezy before putting more services or VMs on them. Have you compared the interfaces files for the working system with the borked one?
• 176[00:59:46] <Martyn> on the machine that works .. there are no special POSTROUTING/PREROUTING rules, or other special IPTABLES rules
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• 238[01:26:32] <KomputerKid> Hello. I am trying to setup sendmail for use with wordpress on my VPS running Debian Jessie, it does work, but it is painfully and I mean, painfully slow. It takes about 20 minutes for the mail to be received in my inbox.
• 239[01:26:42] <KomputerKid> at least, the test mail got send
• 240[01:26:50] <KomputerKid> as for wordpress, it took awhile.
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• 242[01:27:39] <KomputerKid> actually for wordpress it still hasn't been sent
• 243[01:27:41] <KomputerKid> :|
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• 245[01:28:55] <bazhang> try #wordpress KomputerKid
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• 248[01:29:56] <jmcnaught> KomputerKid: did you install sendmail, or you're trying to use the sendmail command provided by another package? Does this system receive mail, or only send?
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• 251[01:30:17] <KomputerKid> I installed sendmail with apt
• 252[01:30:22] <KomputerKid> and it is only for sending mail
• 253[01:30:49] <jmcnaught> KomputerKid: Debian provides MTAs that are a lot easier to configure than sendmail. Does your ISP or domain name provider give you an SMTP server for sending mail?
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• 255[01:31:22] <KomputerKid> I don't know if namecheap provides an SMTP server
• 256[01:31:27] <KomputerKid> also my VPS is on digital ocean
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• 258[01:32:13] <KomputerKid> oh wait
• 259[01:32:15] <KomputerKid> lol there
• 260[01:32:18] <KomputerKid> that's a little better
• 261[01:32:22] <KomputerKid> >2 minutes
• 262[01:32:25] <KomputerKid> vs 20 minutes
• 263[01:32:35] <KomputerKid> okay lets see if I can get a password reset
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• 268[01:34:11] <jmcnaught> KomputerKid: if you have an SMTP server you can relay mail through, the simplest would be to use msmtp-mta (or another null client), or to configure exim4 to use a smarthost (can be done through the debconf questions asked by dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) or postfix (can also be configured with dpkg-reconfigure)
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• 279[01:39:51] <KomputerKid> yeah its working fine now
• 280[01:39:54] <KomputerKid> that was... weird
• 281[01:39:54] <KomputerKid> :P
• 282[01:39:57] <teraflops> oh yes that phpmail thing is awful, I just do sane relay to a mail server with multi-domain support
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• 286[01:42:23] <jmcnaught> KomputerKid: to be honest installing sendmail was a strange choice. it's very complex
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• 291[01:43:30] <KomputerKid> yeah I'll look into other alternatives later, it works fine for now so that's all that matters.
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• 293[01:43:52] <jmcnaught> KomputerKid: just be sure you haven't configured an open relay
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• 334[02:06:00] <donofrio> so if sound does work when I type "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" how do I get it to go though pianobar ?
• 335[02:07:53] <donofrio> casue pianobar just says "/|\ cannot open audio device"
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• 385[02:42:26] <internat> Hi Debian team, i have a questino about SMART. it keeps sending me an email saying that "Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 65535 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors" which i get means there is something wrong with the drive. What im wondering is, is there a way of acknowleding the alet, so it only sends me anything new, and not the same message every day?
• 386[02:42:59] <un214> is it a SSD disk?
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• 389[02:43:15] <internat> nah
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• 392[02:43:57] <un214> anyway the recommendation is to replace drives as soon as you get that because it can't swap out bad sectors anymore
• 393[02:44:17] <un214> a rotating disk would be usable for awhile yet assuming the generating cause is gone
• 394[02:44:34] <internat> its in a raid1. and the other disk is fine.
• 395[02:44:46] <un214> swap it
• 396[02:44:52] <un214> it's killing your raid performacne
• 397[02:44:56] <internat> i can replace it if it needs replacing, its just that everything seems to be working so im hesitant to replace a disk if its still actually doing what i need to do
• 398[02:45:17] <un214> all its remapped sectors makes raid run really bad
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• 401[02:45:32] <Javabean> its the moment it stops doing what you need it to do that is a BIG problem
• 402[02:45:44] <un214> raid 1
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• 404[02:48:16] <internat> guess ill find one of the spare 2tb drives in the cupboard and replace it.
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• 406[02:48:41] <internat> its only the os disk, .. hehe, only. Its not my main data is i guess my point
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• 411[02:54:02] <deepy> internat: so with disks you sort of have this tendency of things going: something goes wrong, alerts start, and then suddenly the disk dies
• 412[02:54:51] <deepy> internat: the moment you get alerts is generally the point where you make sure you got a full backup of the entire thing becuase it might've already failed and if not it might do so very shortly, or it might continue working for years
• 413[02:57:07] <deepy> and say you got two disks in a RAID 1, if one of the disks is giving you errors you want it replaced ASAP, becuase if the second disk suddenly dies you're then relying on a failing disk to keep you safe
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• 415[02:57:43] <internat> yeah i get that. it is only the os disk, whcih is litterally just debian with a few basic config. the datadisks i replace or have a spare handy as soon as the raid6 even hiccups.
• 416[02:57:49] <internat> ill stop being lazy :)
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• 418[02:58:19] <misnix> it might be the controller :(
• 419[02:58:33] <ohithere> Unlikely.
• 420[02:58:35] <deepy> on the bright side, if it IS the controller you get another disk
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• 422[02:58:56] <misnix> unlikely but possible
• 423[02:59:00] <internat> nah, im sure its the disk. they are old disks.. just one of those things, where if its working, do i invest time in fixing it :)
• 424[02:59:26] <deepy> internat: decomission the disk to a Google-styled JBOD setup
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• 426[02:59:36] <internat> god no
• 427[02:59:54] <deepy> is that a 'god no, the power costs too much'?
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• 431[03:00:33] <internat> its a "i want my data locally", and raid6 is what i want :)
• 432[03:00:45] <internat> all the super important stuff is "in the cloud" as well
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• 435[03:01:06] <internat> or did i misunderstand what you mean by google-style JBOD?
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• 438[03:01:19] <ohithere> How many drives are in that raid 6?
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• 440[03:01:37] <internat> 6
• 441[03:02:09] <deepy> They toss a bunch of drives and replicate the data to a lot of them, so if one drive fails they just move it to another drive
• 442[03:02:26] <internat> zfs? kinda style?
• 443[03:02:36] <internat> is it zfs that you can just chuck disks at? i always forget
• 444[03:03:02] <deepy> iirc zfs doesn't quite do JBOD
• 445[03:03:07] <deepy> but it does software raid
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• 449[03:03:57] <internat> one of the fs's i thought let you just chuck disks of any size at it, and say i want atleast x copies of the data.
• 450[03:04:10] <deepy> well I'm drunk and should go to sleep, this is as far as I dare trust the advice I'm about to give
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• 458[03:05:03] <deepy> but zfs has some interesting setups
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• 462[03:06:01] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Where's the python binary in the python3.4 package?
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• 464[03:06:30] <foul_owl> I'm just looking for the python interpreter for 3.4. I have the python 3.4 package installed already
• 465[03:06:31] <markybob> foul_owl: apt-get install python3 in jessue
• 466[03:06:37] <foul_owl> Yep, already done
• 467[03:06:40] <markybob> that is 3.4...
• 468[03:06:46] <arahael> foul_owl: thats... a weird question.
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• 470[03:07:08] <foul_owl> dpkg -L tar | xargs file | grep -i elf ... no result
• 471[03:07:08] <dpkg> ii tar | xargs file | grep -i elf ... no result 2.3-12 foul_owl's private stamp collection
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• 473[03:07:18] <markybob> ,v python3
• 474[03:07:22] <foul_owl> s/tar/python3.4
• 475[03:07:23] <judd> Package: python3 on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.1-3; sid: 3.5.1-3
• 476[03:07:34] <markybob> foul_owl: python3 == python 3.4
• 477[03:07:38] <markybob> in jessie
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• 479[03:07:49] <RippyDippy> Hey guys, does anyone know an channels where I get some help with specific neural network questions
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• 483[03:08:32] <arahael> foul_owl: the '3' is because it's a syntatically incompatible language. it's not just a newer version.
• 484[03:08:36] <foul_owl> dpkg -L python3 | xargs file | grep ELF .. no result
• 485[03:08:36] <dpkg> ii python3 | xargs file | grep ELF .. no result 1.8-12 foul_owl's private gamp collection
• 486[03:09:12] <CoJaBo> Anyone here good with, I think awk? I need to convert every occurrence of a square-bracketed number to a curly-bracked number that is one higher.
• 487[03:09:28] <TomTomTosch> foul_owl: the binary should be /usr/bin/python3.4 with /usr/bin/python3 being a softlink pointing at it.
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• 489[03:09:31] <markybob> CoJaBo: eh you might wanna try #bash
• 490[03:09:54] <foul_owl> TomTomTosch: Thank you :)
• 491[03:10:20] <foul_owl> Exactly the answer I was looking for
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• 493[03:10:43] <CoJaBo> I think its empty :
• 494[03:10:46] <CoJaBo> :/
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• 496[03:11:08] <markybob> CoJaBo: there are 1123 people in there
• 497[03:11:26] <CoJaBo> who sent me to #awk which theres only a handful in
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• 501[03:12:28] <arahael> CoJaBo: you did ask an awk question.
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• 505[03:14:10] <arahael> CoJaBo: personally, i'd take the opportunity to learn a programmjng language. ruby or python are boh good choices.
• 506[03:14:18] <arahael> *both
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• 508[03:15:56] <CoJaBo> Figured out how to do it in perl, but the perl interpreter is crashing
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• 516[03:18:01] <jordanm> CoJaBo: what do you mean by crashing?
• 517[03:18:06] <jordanm> CoJaBo: segfaulting?
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• 526[03:23:12] <arahael> CoJaBo: if you're doing it in perl, it's a good idea to enable the strict mode.
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• 528[03:23:42] <CoJaBo> -bash: /usr/bin/perl: Input/output error
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• 530[03:23:47] <CoJaBo> EXT3-fs error (device hda1): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=77513, block=295382
• 531[03:23:50] <CoJaBo> >_______________>
• 532[03:24:01] <CoJaBo> Restoring from backups now :/
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• 534[03:24:46] <jordanm> CoJaBo: sounds like a failing drive
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• 536[03:25:19] <jordanm> or perhaps just a fs in need of a fsck
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• 538[03:25:38] <CoJaBo> Bad sectors; the restore will (hopefully) remap and buy me some time at least
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• 540[03:27:28] <arahael> CoJaBo: failing drives tend to fail very quickly.
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• 545[03:28:47] <CoJaBo> I can't replace it tho, not my box >_>
• 546[03:29:23] <arahael> CoJaBo: then give up in it. sag it's failing.
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• 552[03:30:48] <CoJaBo> I just need to run the scrpt, then that install can be nuked from orbit so far as i care lol
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• 555[03:33:50] <CoJaBo> got it running, now to put in a ticket about the disk, that will undoubtedly be closed as "COULDNOTREPRODUCE"
• 556[03:33:55] <CoJaBo> <_<
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• 608[04:14:14] <lwizardl> hello
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• 612[04:16:58] <lwizardl> with Debian Jessie it seems my onboard audio hardware is not being detected but instead the system is trying to use the ATI video card as audio source. Is there a guide for correcting that?
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• 616[04:19:35] <lwizardl> in ALSA Mixer the sound card options are "HDA ATI SB (Alsa Mixer)" and "HDA ATI HDMI (Alsa Mixer)"
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• 642[04:36:05] <simonlnu> select the correct default, google it, as exact procedure isn't known to me. it just works for me, even though i have similar setup.
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• 657[04:43:41] <simonlnu> you could use pulseaudio (*gaak*) to switch it, too.
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• 681[04:55:25] <asterismo> hi
• 682[04:55:31] <asterismo> i need help with this
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• 684[04:55:55] <asterismo> i deleted the file /etc/modsecurity/modsecurity.conf-recommended
• 685[04:56:05] <asterismo> and reinstalling the package wont install this file
• 686[04:56:18] <asterismo> how do i reinstall stock version of this file?
• 687[04:56:28] <jmcnaught> !confmiss
• 688[04:56:29] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
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• 695[04:57:51] <asterismo> jmcnaught: isn't working
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• 713[05:05:30] <themill> asterismo: what did you try and how do you know it didn't work? (real output in a pastebin is helpful)
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• 715[05:06:42] <jmcnaught> asterismo: "dpkg --status libapache2-mod-security2" says that this file is a conffile in the libapache2-mod-security2 package, perhaps you reinstalled the libapache2-modsecurity dummy transitional package?
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• 726[05:13:06] <asterismo> nevermind thanks
• 727[05:13:20] <asterismo> i solved that in a different way
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• 772[05:34:23] <SmileMZ> Hi people.
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• 774[05:34:56] <SmileMZ> I don't know if anybody is here... but I wanted to ask, where do I make the report about issues in debian testing ?
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• 777[05:35:24] <SmileMZ> I'd love to tell that there is a dependency problem on stretch/sid for a package I wanted to install.
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• 785[05:40:14] <SmileMZ> ok, everybody's busy.
• 786[05:40:15] <SmileMZ> bye
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• 791[05:41:56] <wasutton3> so I'm on the hunt for a patch file that was made to a package sometime in 2010. where would I go looking for it?
• 792[05:42:13] <wasutton3> its econvert-typo.diff applied to the package exact-image
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• 809[05:50:57] <jmcnaught> wasutton3: you could try looking on replaced-url
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• 835[06:03:22] <bigterd> find /mnt/test/ -name "*.zip" -exec cp {} /mnt/cudas/tmp/john/ \;
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• 837[06:03:33] <bigterd> find prints out everything, but the exec just hangs..
• 838[06:04:04] <bigterd> it's 12am, i know i'm missing something obvious. help anyone?
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• 860[06:13:20] <Rusty1_> bigterd: try /join #bash and ask there , whilst you wait here
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• 865[06:15:19] <r4fkramer> Hi allorder
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• 923[06:51:11] <SagelessFox> replaced-url
• 924[06:51:18] <SagelessFox> debian server is down
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• 928[06:52:29] <SagelessFox> replaced-url
• 929[06:52:57] <Javabean> that is not jessie, is it?
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• 931[06:54:00] <SagelessFox> jessie? idk,just looked for weekly build
• 932[06:54:29] <Javabean> yeah, that link is for testing... ie the next version of debian
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• 937[06:55:12] <dax> i usually just grab the ISO off the top-right of the front page and dist-upgrade it if i want testing
• 938[06:55:21] <Javabean> where are you in the world, sagelessfox?
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• 941[06:55:33] <SagelessFox> Hongkong China
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• 943[06:55:52] <dax> doesn't work for me in USA either, fwiw
• 944[06:56:20] <Javabean> nah, was redirecting to a local server to try
• 945[06:56:31] <dax> oic
• 946[06:56:46] <SagelessFox> it just send back EOF
• 947[06:56:52] <SagelessFox> sent*
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• 949[06:57:01] <SagelessFox> what does EOF mean
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• 951[06:57:22] <Javabean> no one has a testing ( ie weekly build) but i can direct you to download the current release
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• 954[06:57:41] <Javabean> EOF = End Of File ... its an error
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• 956[06:57:54] <SagelessFox> hmm..
• 957[06:58:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1632
• 958[06:58:15] <SagelessFox> K, I will try the current release
• 959[06:58:49] <Javabean> ftp://debian.ustc.edu.cn/debian-cd/ or replaced-url
• 960[06:59:19] <Javabean> sorry but i don't know where things are located in china...
• 961[06:59:36] <raspberrypifan> china is in asia
• 962[07:00:11] <Javabean> but where things in china are located relative to each other... idk
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• 965[07:01:55] <SagelessFox> thx
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• 967[07:02:14] <raspberrypifan> the north is in the north...
• 968[07:02:16] <Javabean> you're welcome
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• 971[07:06:00] <peterrooney> This is driving me batty - something is making my keyboard's left control key intermittent in X - multiple keyboards, and not in console. Could gpm be the culprit? showkey doesn't work in X.
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• 976[07:07:51] <virgosun> hi, any one sucess with this openvpn, I can not make it work in debian. It works in windows. This replaced-url
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• 981[07:14:07] <lesta> maybe in #openvpn
• 982[07:16:04] <ecom> peterrooney, have you tried xev?
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• 1036[08:07:02] <locrian9> Is this the best site to grab an archived Debian (Etch 4.0 r9)? curl -C - -L replaced-url
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• 1039[08:07:41] <locrian9> The download is not running for some reason.
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• 1043[08:09:53] <ecom> I'm missing UI elements such as highlighting in the context menu, the scrollbar, buttons, etc? I'm using the theme Arc, and I downloaded all the prereqs listed on the git page. What could be missing?
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• 1046[08:12:34] <themill> locrian9: cdimage seems to have gone fishing; there are other cd mirrors that might have old releases
• 1047[08:13:49] <jml2> perhaps he's looking for a 486/586 kernel image
• 1048[08:14:22] <jml2> doesn't make sense to use something 2+ years old considering so much security vulnerabilityies around bash and tls
• 1049[08:15:05] <themill> (6 years, actually)
• 1050[08:15:43] <arahael> jml2: except... bash hasn't been the system shell for a while, has it?
• 1051[08:15:50] <arahael> not in debian.
• 1052[08:16:21] * jml2 says there's a -586 for non-smp processors in jessie
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• 1059[08:21:11] <locrian9> It's a manufacturer that needs this Debian 4.0_r9 for their specific smtp control and database queries. Do you know of a mirror to download the iso? It's for an i386 (32-bit).
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• 1061[08:21:47] <jml2> locrian9, ?
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• 1063[08:22:11] <themill> how hideous
• 1064[08:22:44] <themill> locrian9: most cd mirrors don't carry the archive
• 1065[08:23:20] <jml2> locrian9, i'm sure with a little bit of homework, it likely is a generic solution, using things like the 'sendmaiil' command -- which exim, postfix and other smtp packages can emulate
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• 1075[08:40:47] <cplemaster> hello everyone
• 1076[08:40:51] <cplemaster> I am having an issue with an Intel I217-LM chipset on Debian Jessie, it refuses to pull an ipv4. It only takes ipv6. Does anyone else have this chipset? This is a server environment.
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• 1079[08:42:01] <jml2> cplemaster, did you do the first thing i told you?
• 1080[08:42:03] <rozie> cplemaster: what do you mean "pull"
• 1081[08:42:25] <rozie> in general, IP layer is very far from chipset, so I didn't blame hardware
• 1082[08:42:40] <cplemaster> rozie, pull, assign, get from DHCP
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• 1085[08:44:38] <cplemaster> I will explain the issue in its entirety now that I am in a different channel.
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• 1089[08:45:09] <rozie> cplemaster: can you run tcpdump and check if your computer sends DISCOVER and if DHCP server replies with OFFER?
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• 1094[08:47:41] <cplemaster> The issue began because I am running a Debian Jessie server on a Supermicro X10SLM-F motherboard with dual Intel NICs. 1 NIC is an Intel I210, and the other is an Intel I217-LM. I was setting up a pfSense virtual machine, and I used PCI passthrough to pass both NICs to pfSense. There I discovered that the I217-LM NIC would not assign an IPv4 address from DHCP on my router, but the I210 would. So I took the I217 off back to my Debian
• 1095[08:47:41] <cplemaster> host. It would not get an address there either, only IPv6. So I then passed it through to a Windows 7 VM, because it is a different system, so why not. It received an IPv6 there, but it also listed an IPv4 address. So I am trying to find out why this is not the case on Debian.
• 1096[08:47:50] <cplemaster> rozie, I will do that now and report back
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• 1102[08:51:42] <cplemaster> rozie, forgive me if I am uneducated with tcpdump, I am supposed to run tcpdump -i eth1 (my interface for the I217) to monitor for the requests, correct?
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• 1104[08:52:56] <cplemaster> rozie, if so, I do not see DISCOVER or OFFER showing up
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• 1113[08:57:28] <cplemaster> I will try passing through to an Ubuntu VM I have just for giggles to see if anything different occurs.
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• 1119[09:01:43] <jml2> tcpdump won't work on the host with passthrough
• 1120[09:01:56] <jml2> that's to be done on your Ubuntu
• 1121[09:02:09] <cplemaster> jml2, I completely understand that, I am just seeing if it will receive an IPv4 from Ubuntu.
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• 1123[09:05:04] <cplemaster> Nope, still only receives an IPv6, after quite long wait just the same as it did with Debian and pfSense. Very odd that it seems to work without issues in a Windows environment but not BSD or GNU/Linux.
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• 1130[09:05:47] <jml2> again as i said on #linux, maybe you should find out why it does not work on "debian" :)
• 1131[09:05:51] <jml2> lol
• 1132[09:06:24] <cplemaster> jml2, clearly at this point you should understand that I am trying to figure out that problem. Are we not in the Debian channel?
• 1133[09:06:46] <jml2> cplemaster, yeah so? why are you making this more complicating that it needs to?
• 1134[09:07:20] <cplemaster> jml2, Please explain to me how I am making things more complicated than it needs to be. Basic troubleshooting includes trying the same troublesome piece of equipment in a different scenario.
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• 1137[09:08:11] <cplemaster> jml2, I really don't understand why testing in a different environment, such as Windows, and finding that it DOES work in that situation, does not help.
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• 1140[09:10:37] <arahael> I have to admit: cplemaster's approach makes a lot of sense.
• 1141[09:11:11] <arahael> It has one significant flaw: It doesn't mean that the 'working' behaviour is actually correct.
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• 1143[09:11:56] <cplemaster> I just don't get how that seems odd to someone on an IRC that I would do such a thing? If I had a PC that would not power on, and everything seemed OK configuration wise (PSU switch is on, cables are attached correctly), would I not test a different outlet first?
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• 1145[09:12:23] <cplemaster> I mean that is all I am doing here, is testing to see what happens somewhere else so I can observe different behavior.
• 1146[09:12:52] <jml2> i never brought that up. I don't think "virtualization" is a necessity at all, and then you ramble on "Ubuntu" "Windows" "pfsense". Absolutely useless..
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• 1148[09:13:21] <arahael> jml2: It's clear to me that cplemaster's reference to "Ubuntu", "Windows", and so on, are merely to contrast the behaviour with other existing implementations.
• 1149[09:13:30] <jml2> unnecessary
• 1150[09:13:39] <jml2> just get it to work in #debian and that's it
• 1151[09:13:52] <jml2> makes it more complicating that it needs to
• 1152[09:13:55] <cplemaster> jml2, Okay jml2, so where would you start then? Please enlighten me.
• 1153[09:14:24] <jml2> cplemaster, maybe you should read above.. I asked you twice already
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• 1155[09:14:36] <arahael> jml2: Maybe he's used a few additional words than was strictly neccessary. However, he's very clearly stating: 1) What's happening. 2) What he's expecting.
• 1156[09:14:42] <jml2> "<jml2> cplemaster, did you do the first thing i told you?"
• 1157[09:14:49] <jml2> (#linux)
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• 1159[09:15:13] <cplemaster> jml2, This is a new channel, and I closed linux because you made yourself clear that you were not open to helping me because I was in the Linux channel.
• 1160[09:15:22] <jml2> "<jml2> cplemaster, a common problem for many many debian first-time users is they don't have their proprietary firmware install from non-free -- simply doing -> "dmesg|grep -i fail" can mention if there's anything missing"
• 1161[09:15:40] <cplemaster> jml2, and if you would've read, I very clearly gave you an output.
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• 1163[09:15:45] <jml2> cplemaster, because you kept jumping all over the place with passthrough with Windowes
• 1164[09:16:45] <jml2> cplemaster, what debian version are you trying?
• 1165[09:17:13] <cplemaster> jml2, again, if you would've read, since you are reaming me for "not reading", then you would've seen I said Debian Jessie.
• 1166[09:17:43] <jml2> cplemaster, that doesnt tell me if that's amd64/i386
• 1167[09:18:03] <jml2> cplemaster, since you're so stubborn... i suppose you know it all
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• 1169[09:18:05] <jml2> lol
• 1170[09:18:08] <jml2> bye bye :)
• 1171[09:18:10] <arahael> Guys... Please just take a break for 2 minutes. Grab a coffee, or something. jml2 is annoyed that cplemaster is being verbose. (A valid point). cplemaster is annoyed that jml2 is disregarding all the (helpful?) ancedotes.
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• 1174[09:19:19] <cplemaster> jml2, I'm sorry but I'm adding you to my ignore list. This is clearly getting nowhere with semantics and our clearly different definitions of troubleshooting
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• 1176[09:19:33] <cplemaster> I don't want to blow up the IRC chat because of it.
• 1177[09:19:35] * jml2 been using debian for 16 years
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• 1180[09:20:10] <arahael> cplemaster, jml2: Please just take a short break NOW before you regret something. You two are clearly competent, but also, clearly have very different communication styles.
• 1181[09:20:10] <jml2> i've been using linux longer than he's been alive
• 1182[09:20:30] <jml2> ok, he's ignoring me, that's good. I didn't even get to have his debian fixed.
• 1183[09:20:40] <arahael> jml2: Just drop it, plese.
• 1184[09:20:55] <cplemaster> I apologize for the entire page taken up by this argument. I cannot see what is happening, obviously. But I apologize in advance.
• 1185[09:21:01] <jml2> arahael, "drop it" -- Has been dropped as though nothing ever started back 5 minutes ago.
• 1186[09:21:12] <arahael> jml2: Not actually relevant.
• 1187[09:21:22] <jml2> arahael, you have to learn something here. Virtualization does not fix the "host" part.
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• 1189[09:21:31] <jml2> arahael, that's a point for you.
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• 1195[09:23:28] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: perhaps you could show us your /etc/network/interfaces file. does using dhclient manually work?
• 1196[09:24:18] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, okay I will pastebin it. I have a bridge set up for VMs on the other NIC so you will see a br0 entry. Give me one moment
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• 1199[09:26:14] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: checking "journalctl /sbin/dhclient" might also yield some clues (or whatever you use as DHCP client)
• 1200[09:26:37] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, it depends on what I would define "work" as in this situation. It does work, but takes about 30 seconds and ends up assigning an IPv6 only to the NIC.
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• 1204[09:27:14] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, it repeats NO DHCP OFFERS RECEIVED for this interface
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• 1206[09:27:35] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: is debian also a VM like the others you tested for comparison, or is it the host?
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• 1208[09:28:21] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, No, the Debian OS is the host. I won't mention the other systems to avoid confusion for now
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• 1214[09:29:51] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: it's cool, just trying to understand the difference between the ones that work and the one that doesn't. i suppose we can also assume that MAC address is the same when passed through, and there are no rules for that MAC address on the DHCP server that could be an issue?
• 1215[09:30:21] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, I said I would pastebin but I am working in a TTY so copypasting to pastebin isn't that easy (I am not using SSH). Here is a screenshot instead if that's okay. replaced-url
• 1216[09:31:31] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, yes the MAC remains the same. I am not restricting MACs on my network either. All MACs are accepted.
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• 1220[09:33:11] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: the "it" that repeats "NO DHCP OFFERS...", was that using dhclient manually?
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• 1232[09:36:16] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, yes sorry I should've specified. I ran dhclient manually for eth1, the I217-LM NIC.
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• 1239[09:40:04] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: i found this post that seems like a similar issue: replaced-url
• 1240[09:40:58] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: seems like this person was having trouble after using the card in windows then again in linux, and it ended up being the WoL and power management settings
• 1241[09:42:09] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, I wish I would've paid attention when I first passed it through to Windows. The first time I tried it I did it only because I wanted to confirm that it would work (the VM is for a project I have planned) and it did, and I just didn't think anything of it
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• 1243[09:43:11] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, so would you say I should try putting it back on Windows, and turn off the WoL features, and then try to put it back on Debian and see what happens? Just to clarify what you would think
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• 1245[09:43:43] <jml2> jmcnaught, his interfaces file is wrong. -- problematic with systemd as well adds to the flavor.
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• 1249[09:44:31] <cplemaster> Again, really sorry for the chat spam earlier. I'm still confused as to what triggered all that
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• 1252[09:44:55] <arahael> cplemaster: Could have been anything, including a bad day in the office. I'd ignore it.
• 1253[09:45:07] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: did you get it working?
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• 1256[09:45:40] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, no I haven't, but I am going to try what I just mentioned, just as an in-case. Anything is helpful at this point
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• 1259[09:47:41] <jmcnaught> also jml2 just said she/he spotted a problem in your interfaces file, but the stanza "auto eth1 \ iface eth1 inet dhcp" looks fine to me. she/he also said something about systemd, then left
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• 1261[09:48:52] <jmcnaught> cplemaster: i only spent a few minutes reading that thread and it seemed like it could be related which is why i shared it with you, there was a lot of detail there and you're in a better position than me to check its relevance
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• 1272[09:55:55] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, and thanks for looking. Turning off power management features did not help the issue, but I'll keep reading
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• 1282[10:00:10] <Ozzyboshi> why does debian 8 miss compiz packages?
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• 1287[10:06:18] <jmcnaught> Ozzyboshi: it was removed before Wheezy was released
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• 1290[10:07:29] <Ozzyboshi> jmcnaught, i'd like to switch from ubuntu to debian but compiz is missing, why is that?
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• 1294[10:09:35] <jmcnaught> Ozzyboshi: because of unfixed bugs and no longer developed upstream it seems: replaced-url
• 1295[10:09:36] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1301[10:10:30] <jmcnaught> Ozzyboshi: Debian has lots of window managers with compositing features, i'm sure if you decide to switch you'll find something that suits your workflow
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• 1304[10:10:47] <Ozzyboshi> i love cinnamon
• 1305[10:10:56] <Ozzyboshi> and i see it's supported by the debian community
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• 1308[10:11:09] <Ozzyboshi> but compiz had one feature that is missing
• 1309[10:11:36] <Ozzyboshi> the ability to switch virtual desktop with mouse extra button clicks
• 1310[10:11:56] <Ozzyboshi> i have a 5 button mouse and i like to customize button number 4 and 5
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• 1312[10:12:09] <Ozzyboshi> with compiz it was easy
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• 1314[10:12:22] <Ozzyboshi> i must figure out another way with debian+cinnamon
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• 1318[10:14:35] <jmcnaught> Ozzyboshi: I don't use Cinnamon, but there's probably some sort of shortcut configuration dialogue. Compiz seems to be dead so it'll have to be something else
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• 1336[10:24:04] <cplemaster> I am going to try shutting down and unplugging my server. I've seen the same thing you showed me, jmcnaught, on about 4 other forums. Same "Windows does weird stuff with the card" solution
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• 1340[10:26:31] <cplemaster> jmcnaught, it works!!!!!
• 1341[10:27:21] <cplemaster> I will definitely take note of this any time this happens again!
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• 1354[10:34:21] <ziddey> when i set both iface br0 inet and iface br0 inet6, when i down it, i get device br0 does not exist (because it's already down when it tries to down the inet6 one). am i doing it wrong or is that just the way it is?
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• 1366[10:40:29] <Emery> I'm currently using the 'default' open-source AMD drivers for my GFX card, a few problems being... screen tearing.. and my R9 390 displays as a 290.. "[AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290]" when I run this command:lspci -vnn | grep VGA
• 1367[10:40:29] <Emery> .... would I be better using proprietary drivers?
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• 1380[10:49:00] <teraflops> Emery: Which DE there (if any)?
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• 1382[10:49:11] <Emery> xfce
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• 1387[10:49:27] <SagelessFox> I successfully installed debian 8 to my tablet
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• 1389[10:49:32] <Emery> teraflops,
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• 1392[10:49:49] <SagelessFox> but touch screen does not work :(
• 1393[10:49:52] <teraflops> Emery: do you have the xfce composting manager enabled?
• 1394[10:50:03] <jelly> heh, composting
• 1395[10:50:08] <Emery> I don't have any of that stuff enabled
• 1396[10:50:38] <teraflops> Well.Sometimes helps. I don't use any though
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• 1398[10:51:13] <Emery> Well beside the screen tearing, it's displaying my 390 as a 290
• 1399[10:51:32] <Emery> Which is a totally different card anyway
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• 1402[10:51:57] <Emery> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290] (rev 80)
• 1403[10:52:50] <teraflops> Emery: no idea then. Foss driver behaves fine. Xorg sucks anyway at this regard.
• 1404[10:53:32] <teraflops> Emery: is this the new amdgpu fancy stuff?
• 1405[10:53:38] <Emery> I suspect I'll have to use the proprietary drivers to get my card working to a reasonable level
• 1406[10:53:51] <cplemaster> PCI IDs probably just aren't updated yet with that card's info
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• 1409[10:54:41] <Emery> teraflops, I wouldn't call it fancy
• 1410[10:55:06] <Emery> teraflops, replaced-url
• 1411[10:55:07] <teraflops> Emery: there's a new amdgpu Foss driver. No idea if it's in debian stable though
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• 1413[10:55:13] <teraflops> Emery: heh
• 1414[10:55:17] <Meerkat> Can I get poEdit 1.8 for jessie anywhere?
• 1415[10:55:49] <Emery> teraflops, I'd rather use AMD's driver than move to another branch really
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• 1418[10:57:31] <SagelessFox> how to make touch screen work in debian?
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• 1421[10:58:00] <SagelessFox> will I install extra drivers to system?
• 1422[10:58:20] <cplemaster> fglrx has been dropped in recent releases
• 1423[10:58:22] <teraflops> Emery: no idea about the support of amdgpus in debian jessiebto be honest. Good old HDxxxx behaves pretty well.
• 1424[10:58:34] <Emery> teraflops, ergh haha
• 1425[10:58:41] <teraflops> Heh
• 1426[10:58:55] <SagelessFox> or just install software, touch screen will automatically work ? :|
• 1427[10:58:57] <Emery> teraflops, I don't even want it for games, I just want the screen tearing gone, it's annoying af
• 1428[10:59:07] <teraflops> Ups 5% battery
• 1429[10:59:08] <jmd> I'm trying to debug something nasty in ncurses-5.9 - I have installed libncurses5-dbg but in the debugger I just get an opaque stack frame /build/ncurses-K1qcbH/ncurses-5.9+20140913/menu/m_driver.c
• 1430[10:59:17] <teraflops> Emery: yeah.
• 1431[10:59:21] <jmd> How can I see what's going on inside the library?
• 1432[11:02:41] <teraflops> Emery: just wait. Amdgpu and Vulcan looks promising :P
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• 1434[11:03:00] <Emery> teraflops, I'd rather get this fixed today haha
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• 1436[11:03:12] <teraflops> Lel
• 1437[11:04:40] <Emery> teraflops, Can't stand hardware going to waste
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• 1440[11:05:48] <teraflops> Emery no idea about the support perhaps you need a newer kernel than the stock jessie one. Since the driver is in the kernel
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• 1446[11:07:59] <Emery> teraflops, I'm sure i'll figure something out!
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• 1450[11:08:20] <teraflops> Yeah. Good 🍀
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• 1492[11:38:03] <TechChristoph__> hi can i use one nick name for two irc-clients ?
• 1493[11:38:20] <cplemaster> I don't believe so, it will say it's already connected
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• 1498[11:39:08] <teraflops> TechChristoph__: use a relay
• 1499[11:39:34] <teraflops> or ssh to the client (screen/tmux)
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• 1502[11:39:44] <TechChristoph__> ok
• 1503[11:39:53] <TechChristoph__> hardwarerelay ?
• 1504[11:40:22] <TechChristoph__> teraflops: or how do you mean ?
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• 1507[11:41:05] <TechChristoph__> because sometimes i use irrsi and sometimes quasselclient
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• 1509[11:41:18] <TechChristoph__> but i dont want 2 nicknames for 2 clients
• 1510[11:41:18] <teraflops> nope I mean weechat/irssi in relay mode or one of those relay thingies over the internet. those are always running then you connect to it not the irc itself
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• 1513[11:41:46] <hellyeah> hey
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• 1515[11:41:52] <cplemaster> TechChristoph__, if you mean you just sometimes launch another IRC client but don't use them at the same time, then yeah that's fine
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• 1517[11:42:09] <cplemaster> TechChristoph__, you just can't use 2 at the same time
• 1518[11:42:18] <TechChristoph__> ok
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• 1520[11:42:26] <TechChristoph__> well then
• 1521[11:42:37] <cplemaster> TechChristoph__, I do the same thing with a terminal-based IRC on linux and then Hexchat on Wangblows
• 1522[11:42:44] <TechChristoph__> i have to create another one
• 1523[11:42:54] <TechChristoph__> Wangblows ?
• 1524[11:42:56] <Parrhesiastes> how to set locale for user instead of global? /etc/default/locale
• 1525[11:42:59] <cplemaster> TechChristoph__, Windows
• 1526[11:43:06] <TechChristoph__> ah ok
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• 1530[11:44:11] <teraflops> TechChristoph__: as I said if you can do it if you run a proxy/relay whatever
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• 1534[11:44:39] <teraflops> ℹ ⎸ Welcome to the Internet Relay Chat Network teraflops!weechat@proxy
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• 1536[11:45:22] <teraflops> or just a cli client over tmux
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• 1538[11:46:22] <newbie|3> hey
• 1539[11:46:27] <newbie|3> i try to install debian
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• 1541[11:46:42] <newbie|3> each time it gave me error installation step failed
• 1542[11:46:49] <newbie|3> is there any known issus?
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• 1546[11:47:42] <Parrhesiastes> newbie|3: which version are you trying to install?
• 1547[11:47:50] <Parrhesiastes> which step failed?
• 1548[11:47:53] <newbie|3> stretch alpha 5
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• 1550[11:48:04] <newbie|3> installing base system
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• 1552[11:48:29] <Parrhesiastes> ye they say you should use the stable installer, then upgrade later..
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• 1554[11:48:55] <Parrhesiastes> but i managed to use the stretch installer if i had the dvd, and could install a base system just from the dvd
• 1555[11:49:16] <Parrhesiastes> (also i had to hack a bit with the firmware placement etc)
• 1556[11:49:28] <Parrhesiastes> anyway i guess they recommend using the stable installer
• 1557[11:49:51] <Parrhesiastes> (even thought the webpage can say something else)
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• 1559[11:50:11] <newbie|3> hmm i have to use usb stick
• 1560[11:50:19] <newbie|3> what is the name of stable release?
• 1561[11:50:41] <Parrhesiastes> oh, ye, but you can put the dvd image on a usb stick
• 1562[11:50:49] <Parrhesiastes> dont remember, google it, jessie?
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• 1564[11:51:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> yes, jessie
• 1565[11:51:16] <newbie|3> okey thans
• 1566[11:51:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> it's not as if you could have had a look at the /topic
• 1567[11:51:21] <Parrhesiastes> good luck!
• 1568[11:51:26] <newbie|3> i downloaded iso and make bootable usb
• 1569[11:51:35] <newbie|3> i will download jessie now
• 1570[11:51:40] <newbie|3> i love debian
• 1571[11:51:46] <Parrhesiastes> ;|
• 1572[11:52:01] <Parrhesiastes> theres an topic? ;P
• 1573[11:52:05] <Parrhesiastes> -n
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• 1575[11:52:34] <newbie|3> debian jessie 8.4 right
• 1576[11:52:43] <Parrhesiastes> ye, probably
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• 1579[11:55:06] <newbie|3> wondering stretch has update release in 2016 one before release was at 2015 but still have that issue?
• 1580[11:55:08] <newbie|3> hmm
• 1581[11:55:11] <newbie|3> interesting
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• 1585[11:56:22] <Parrhesiastes> seems the "next" releases usually have problem with the installer *shrug*
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• 1587[11:56:48] <Parrhesiastes> i think i usually have some problem installing linux, even with stable.. but then i dont do it every year..
• 1588[11:57:19] <newbie|3> hope jessie works stregth
• 1589[11:57:27] <newbie|3> straight*
• 1590[11:57:27] <teraflops> Parrhesiastes: that's why there are daily weekly and monthly builds
• 1591[11:57:53] <teraflops> err^ newbie|3
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• 1619[12:11:54] <Mathisen> hello i need a way to sync 2 folders from my windows workstation to my debian server... what would be the best way to do this ?
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• 1630[12:16:49] <tme5> Mathisen, perhaps see replaced-url
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• 1641[12:20:36] <tme5> the debian docs still reference TLDP quite a lot
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• 1644[12:21:36] <tme5> do we still consider it a useful resource for linux users?
• 1645[12:22:27] <tme5> it seems quite outdated. i have read several guides which have software links straight to tarballs
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• 1654[12:25:26] <tmladek> hi, during installation of the latest stable from a netinst usb drive, it stopped at "Partitions formatting" - "Creating ext4 file system for / in..." - I am afraid to shut this off and try again, what should I do?
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• 1656[12:26:33] <tme5> tmladek, afraid of data loss? is there even anything on the disk?
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• 1672[12:38:12] <hiexpo> backup data tme5
• 1673[12:38:30] <tme5> hm?
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• 1689[12:47:18] <tmladek> tme5: yup
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• 1691[12:47:34] <tme5> tmladek, are you partitioning the whole disk?
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• 1693[12:47:55] <tmladek> a NTFS partition whose data I would not like to use as sda1; sda2 is the ext4 (used to be a different distro, getting formatted), sda3 is swap
• 1694[12:48:05] <tme5> ah ok
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• 1698[12:48:36] <tmladek> so I guess in theory this should be fine, but still
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• 1700[12:48:43] <tme5> hmm. unless you are editing the partition table, i can't imagine you'd lose anything
• 1701[12:48:50] <tme5> but i am not certain
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• 1703[12:50:28] <tmladek> Im more wondering as to why would this hang, and Id like to find out so it does not happen a second time
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• 1707[12:52:09] <teraflops> Mathisen: rsync works in windows, also openssh (cygwin and so on)
• 1708[12:52:36] <PaulePanter> Hi. Just a note, that there is not disk space on paste.debian.net anymore.
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• 1712[12:53:45] <teraflops> wtf replaced-url
• 1713[12:54:28] <fireba11> :-D
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• 1715[12:54:48] <tmladek> rofl
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• 1737[13:09:24] <tmladek> so, the installation hung again on the same point - formatting the existing ext4 partition, so I deleted them and created new ones with the guided partitioner tool - still hangs on creating the ext4 filesystem
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• 1746[13:19:13] <fireba11> tmladek: how big is the partition and how long does it hang? that might just take a while
• 1747[13:19:35] <tmladek> fireba11: 100G, I rebooted the machine after 40 minutes
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• 1749[13:20:05] <fireba11> okay, it definetely should not take that long. you checked the HD to make sure it's not faulty?
• 1750[13:20:38] <tmladek> yes, I bought it from the store some 2 weeks ago and it also runs Windows fine
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• 1757[13:23:48] <noqnio> i would try to boot on gparted liveusb and partition it there
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• 1759[13:24:22] <fireba11> doesn't seem likely then but still. i suggest doing either an extended smart test to be sure and/or using a live medium to format your partition
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• 1762[13:25:26] <hexnewbie> tmladek: I found that some setting, e.g. accidentally choosing an encrypted volume, cause all data to be overwritten with zeros or otherwise take incredibly long. Still, 100 GB should take about 16 minutes even in that case.
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• 1764[13:26:06] <hexnewbie> tmladek: You could go to a free console during the installation (e.g. Alt+F2) and see what's running.
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• 1767[13:27:00] <hexnewbie> mkfs.ext4 should be fairly quick, clocking under a minute or so. If it takes longer, it may be a dying drive too.
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• 1774[13:29:16] <tmladek> running mkfs.ext4 manually in console and then just telling the installer not to format it worked
• 1775[13:29:21] <tmladek> the drive is not faulty :)
• 1776[13:29:30] <tmladek> but thanks anyway!
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• 1778[13:29:48] <nebg> hello everyone... can somebody tell me if i can run lxc as unrpivileged user on all distros ?
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• 1783[13:31:51] <bazhang> ,v lxc
• 1784[13:31:51] <judd> Package: lxc on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.7.2-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2; jessie: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1:1.1.5-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1:2.0.0-2; stretch: 1:2.0.0-2
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• 1786[13:32:22] <bazhang> try #lxcontainer nebg
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• 1797[13:38:49] <wewlad> ,v wine-development
• 1798[13:38:50] <judd> Package: wine-development on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 1.9.5-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.9.8-1; sid: 1.9.8-1
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• 1801[13:40:32] <wewlad> what's stretch and sid?
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• 1803[13:41:00] <fireba11> unstable and testing
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• 1805[13:41:03] <wewlad> 2 days ago wine 1.9.9 released, where do I get it?
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• 1807[13:41:33] <bazhang> try #winehq wewlad
• 1808[13:41:39] <cynicallemon> wewlad, stretch is debian testing
• 1809[13:41:46] <bazhang> they have their own repos
• 1810[13:41:49] <wewlad> do I need to remove my current wine installation (from jessie-backports, 1.9.5) in order to switch to the more recent version?
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• 1812[13:42:02] <cynicallemon> wewlad sid is the unstable branch
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• 1814[13:42:29] <cynicallemon> wewlad, in toy story, sid always broke things
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• 1816[13:43:07] <wewlad> what's the difference between testing and unstable?
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• 1818[13:43:27] <rysiek|pl> wewlad: testing is the next-stable
• 1819[13:43:33] <rysiek|pl> wewlad: unstable is "all bets are off"
• 1820[13:43:38] <wewlad> also, I guess replaced-url
• 1821[13:43:51] <hexnewbie> wewlad: unstable breaks a lot, testing breaks less and you're testing that it is not broken
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• 1823[13:44:02] <cynicallemon> wewlad, not a lot of difference, as said testing is a step nearer stable
• 1824[13:44:37] <wewlad> thx
• 1825[13:44:48] <cynicallemon> hexnewbie, testing breaks more than sid as a rule
• 1826[13:45:15] <cynicallemon> for me anyway
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• 1828[13:45:26] <fireba11> rysiek|pl: you got ti the wrong way around you know?
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• 1831[13:45:54] <rysiek|pl> fireba11: ah damn it, I need my coffee
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• 1835[13:46:56] <rysiek|pl> fireba11: although... replaced-url
• 1836[13:47:06] <fireba11> anyway everything except stable is not recommended for production use
• 1837[13:47:14] <rysiek|pl> fireba11: so no, at least in theory, sid aka unstable is the "all bets are off" one ;)
• 1838[13:47:42] <rysiek|pl> fireba11: and testing is the one that will become next stable eventually
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• 1841[13:48:30] <fireba11> oh that reminds me .. i still got a few boxes running oldstable i need to upgrade
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• 1845[13:49:19] <rysiek|pl> don't we all ;)
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• 1847[13:50:05] <fireba11> and for everyone that ended up being confused here the official explanation: replaced-url
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• 1865[13:54:53] <cynicallemon> stable << testing << unstable
• 1866[13:54:54] <cynicallemon> jessie << stretch << sid
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• 1884[13:57:15] <qis> What was the package "vim-full" renamed to?
• 1885[13:57:25] <fireba11> also, sid stays sid. only packages move over to testing, never the whole thing
• 1886[13:57:31] <qis> apt-get install vim does not install common syntax files. Not even for the vimrc.
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• 1888[13:57:49] <fireba11> qis: use nano *ducks and runs for cover*
• 1889[13:58:15] <qis> Ah, linux communities. So friendly, so helpful. =)
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• 1892[13:58:45] <fireba11> don't know .. never liked using vim :-P
• 1893[13:58:47] <hexnewbie> qis: The syntax files are in vim-runtime, which should be pulled by vim. I would install vim-gtk anyway.
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• 1897[13:59:42] <hexnewbie> qis: vim pull one of vim-athena, vim-gnome, vim-gtk or vim-nox, all of them pull vim-runtime
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• 1900[14:00:14] <qis> hexnewbie: Hmm, you're right. And I just noticed that debian-7 vim is so old that it ignores ~/.vim/vimrc
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• 1902[14:00:38] <qis> Still 7.3
• 1903[14:00:42] <hexnewbie> I'm not sure if ~/.vim/vimrc was ever used. I use ~/.vimrc anyway.
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• 1906[14:01:30] <qis> hexnewbie: It works fine since 7.4. I wish zsh would read .zsh/zshrc or something like that.
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• 1935[14:19:05] <qis> How can I instruct debian to restart the networking? `/etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start` doesn't cut it. The dns-nameservers entry is ignored.
• 1936[14:19:45] <hexnewbie> qis: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
• 1937[14:20:32] <TechChristoph__> hi
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• 1944[14:22:20] <qis> hexnewbie: Nope.
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• 1946[14:22:29] <qis> hexnewbie: Still missing entries in /etc/resolv.conf
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• 1948[14:23:09] <cynicallemon> hexnewbie, what missing entries?
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• 1956[14:25:30] <digidog> cp debian.x.iso /dev/sdX && sync and plug in USB stick has always worked. not this time on a new acer aspire v 17 nitro *scratchhead*
• 1957[14:25:32] <qis> I have "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" in the interfaces config file.
• 1958[14:25:39] <qis> /etc/resolv.conf shows only 8.8.8.8
• 1959[14:25:47] <qis> Which it got from DHCP.
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• 1961[14:25:57] <qis> But I switched to a static IP address without rebooting.
• 1962[14:26:02] <qis> Do I have to reboot?
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• 1966[14:27:11] <abrotman> digidog: doesn't work how?
• 1967[14:27:13] <abrotman> qis: sholdn't have to
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• 1971[14:29:18] <digidog> abrotman: usb stick didnt get recognised on new acer laptop, nor on USB2 nor on USB3, not via boot menu (F12), not via BIOS boot order. But on the Debian system where I have created the stick, the is fine: mounts normally with debian iso content
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• 1973[14:29:50] <qis> Ok, solved it. This did the trick:
• 1974[14:29:51] <qis> echo -e "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4" | sudo resolvconf -a eth0.inet
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• 1980[14:33:06] <abrotman> digidog: does the new laptop recognize anyUSB bootable media?
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• 1987[14:37:14] <qis> What's the difference between /etc/init.d/networking stop/start and ifdown/ifup eth0? With and without changing the interface configuration file.
• 1988[14:37:17] <digidog> abrotman: hard to say, tis 100% new and has only I kind minimum linux on it via terminal. let me check viw blkid
• 1989[14:37:56] <digidog> abrotman: I would say: no. damn...
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• 1995[14:41:02] <johnny0> digidog: is it a live cd or a netinst image?
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• 1997[14:41:43] <digidog> johnny0: live DVD image lxde 1,x gb
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• 2000[14:42:40] <johnny0> digidog: have you enabled legacy/bios/hybrid boot mode?
• 2001[14:42:52] <johnny0> the live images don't have uefi boot support iirc
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• 2004[14:44:20] <digidog> johnny0: o.O
• 2005[14:44:23] <digidog> wuuut ?
• 2006[14:44:25] <digidog> okayyy
• 2007[14:44:37] <digidog> johnny0: ok, then, net image try ?
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• 2010[14:45:03] <digidog> johnny0: abrotman: thx, I'll try ...
• 2011[14:45:07] <digidog> johnny0++
• 2012[14:45:12] <digidog> abrotman++
• 2013[14:45:19] <digidog> thanks a million for your time
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• 2046[15:07:54] <da3m0n22> hi, with kdump-tools (crash, coredump, ...), i'm not able to dump vcore, using 'kdump-config savecore' reports 'open_dump_memory: Can't open the dump memory(/proc/vmcore). No such file or directory'
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• 2048[15:08:54] <da3m0n22> running '4.5+72~bpo8+1' from jessie-backports, i've checked the kernel config, and all relevant sections are enabled, as they should be, but /proc/vmcore is really non-existent
• 2049[15:09:06] <da3m0n22> anybody has a hint on what's going on?
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• 2062[15:14:52] <Robert_Darwin> When shutting down or rebooting debian8.4 on my laptop, systemd gives that "Failed to finalize DM devices, ignoring".
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• 2066[15:16:13] <Robert_Darwin> The developer of systemd said that "systemd has nothing to do with this" on github issue831.
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• 2072[15:19:27] <tremon> da3m0n22: from reading the kdump manual page, it seems that /proc/vmcore only appears after a crash?
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• 2075[15:19:49] <neoncortex> i think i find a bug into lightdm, anyone want to try it? xD .. in my laptop, if i turn it on and close it [ don't login, let it into the lightdm login ], after some time, like an hour or two, if i open it, the screen will not turn on, then i need to switch for some tty, log in and restart lightdm
• 2076[15:19:50] <tremon> (rather, after a panic causes the kernel to re-exec into kdump mode)
• 2077[15:20:12] <toruvinn> happy worldwide mdraid killing day ;-)
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• 2083[15:22:44] <da3m0n22> tremon: oh, so only way to test it is not 'kdump-tools savecore/test' but actually causing kernel panic?
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• 2086[15:23:16] <tremon> I think so. But I've never actually used it, I'm just reading the man page...
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• 2094[15:25:22] <da3m0n22> as i'm solving panics in my system, only thing that is in /var/crash are empty directories named as date-time when panic occured and kexec_cmd file, hard one to debug ...
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• 2096[15:25:57] <tremon> maybe replaced-url
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• 2099[15:29:25] <philm88> Anyone know why a etc/shadow file would get deleted on boot? I've been trying to edit it on a separate system to get around a forgotton password issue; but every time I boot up the machine in question, it deletes the shadow file
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• 2103[15:31:12] <tremon> philm88: wut? on a Debian system?
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• 2105[15:32:09] <koollman> philm88: deleted as in not there anymore ? My guess would be you messed up while editing it
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• 2107[15:32:25] <koollman> if it's not deleted, but rather not modified, same guess
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• 2109[15:32:51] <philm88> tremon: Yes. Well, it's technically OSMC, which is based on debian
• 2110[15:33:01] <koollman> it *could* be on a selinux system, and then it would need some more operations
• 2111[15:33:43] <philm88> koollman: Yeah, seems to be totally deleted. I thought it was just not writing to the device (sd card) properly, but removing it and remounting it on another machine shows my updated file there. Put it into my locked out machine (raspberry pi), I can't ssh in, so re-mount the sd card on another machine and the file is gone
• 2112[15:33:43] <tremon> even selinux would not delete the file, but rather deny all access if it's mislabeled
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• 2115[15:34:31] <tremon> philm88: if it's deleting essential files, I would not trust that OS one bit. Can you nuke and start over?
• 2116[15:34:48] <koollman> it is why I asked about the kind of deletion :)
• 2117[15:35:11] <koollman> it could be a rather bad luck and not unmounting properly the just edited file ... but that's unlikely
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• 2119[15:35:34] <philm88> tremon: I can - I haven't gone too far from nothing at this point, so I could nuke it and start again. I was hoping to not resort to the nuclear option just yet though
• 2120[15:36:20] <philm88> koollman: yeah, it's happened a few/every-time I've tried it. Pretty sure everything gets unmounted/ejected correctly before I put the sd card back into my raspberry pi. So I'm pretty sure that somehting during the pi's boot is killing the file for some reason
• 2121[15:36:37] <tremon> well I don't see what else you can do. From the sound of it, you're using it in a headless box so stepping through the boot process manually may not be possible
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• 2125[15:37:58] <tremon> the rpi has a mechanism that can reset the root password on first boot, maybe that's broken and you need to edit a different file. But we can't help you with that
• 2126[15:38:46] <tremon> all we can do is verify that it doesn't happen on Debian proper
• 2127[15:39:33] <philm88> fair enough, thanks anyway. Looks like I might have to go nuclear
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• 2131[15:40:23] <dontknow> test
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• 2133[15:40:42] <neoncortex> go nuclear o.O
• 2134[15:40:52] <tremon> dontknow: didn't work, we're all still here
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• 2140[15:42:04] <dontknow> tremon: i am testing pidgin
• 2141[15:43:08] <dontknow> do you know if i can list channels on pidgin?
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• 2152[15:46:28] <dontknow> ok i figured out
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• 2170[15:54:21] <digidog> johnny0: *facepalm*
• 2171[15:54:31] <digidog> johnny0: I only read your last comment
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• 2174[15:56:14] <digidog> johnny0: now it works... thx a mill
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• 2181[15:57:52] <digidog> johnny0: well, at least I can choose another boot device, but now I have only blinking cursor after choosing the correct USB device
• 2182[15:58:16] <digidog> but maybe it takes a while until Debian install pops up, not sure
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• 2190[16:00:53] <digidog> I remember that I had a similar issue once when I used cp instead of dd. Than I did it with dd and it worked. BUt I can't find the tut no more because I remeber there was some more options to set by using the dd command to create the stick
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• 2195[16:04:19] <GNU\colossus> it appears paste.debian.net's free disk space has been exhausted
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• 2199[16:06:54] <teraflops> GNU\colossus: yeah. Just don't use pastebin.com in the meantime :P
• 2200[16:07:07] <GNU\colossus> I would NEVER ;)
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• 2202[16:07:20] <teraflops> Heh
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• 2207[16:09:07] <toruvinn> teraflops, why?
• 2208[16:09:50] <shibly> /etc/init.d/networking , is this run during boot?
• 2209[16:09:59] <shibly> Where is it told to run this at boot?
• 2210[16:10:16] <shibly> How is it run at boot?
• 2211[16:10:27] <toruvinn> shibly, i'd guess either /etc/rcX.d if you're using sysvinit or somewhere in systemd
• 2212[16:10:27] <shibly> I can do manually like : /etc/init.d/networking start
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• 2214[16:11:43] <shibly> There is a symlink in /etc/rc0.d/ K07networking -> ../init.d/networking
• 2215[16:12:02] <teraflops> toruvinn: Ads, Spamfilters, Captcha,Addswhitespace, Slow, Ugly, Nocommentannotate, Breaks copy/paste, Blocked for some people, etc.
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• 2219[16:12:53] <shibly> Where is it told to run /etc/init.d/networking at boot?
• 2220[16:13:05] <toruvinn> teraflops, thanks, thought it had something to do with "keeps your secret, precious data forever" or something like this. ;-) but yeah i dont really like them either.
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• 2224[16:13:57] <toruvinn> shibly, are you using systemd or not?
• 2225[16:14:08] <shibly> This is what i got: replaced-url
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• 2232[16:16:15] <toruvinn> shibly, replaced-url
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• 2237[16:18:34] <toruvinn> shibly, in short, it's probably not used (like most if not all of /etc/init.d) in systemd.
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• 2241[16:21:02] <brigo> toruvinn, i think in Debian /etc/init.d/networking is using by systemd at boot time.
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• 2246[16:25:44] <shibly> service --status-all displays some service with + sign in front and - sign in front, what does this + and - mean?
• 2247[16:26:02] <brigo> shibly, if you are using systemvinit: this is how it boots: replaced-url
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• 2252[16:26:59] <shibly> brigo: What's sysvinit? How can i know if the system is using sysvinit?
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• 2258[16:28:54] <brigo> shibly, cat /proc/1/comm
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• 2265[16:31:00] <shibly> cat /proc/1/comm outputs systemd
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• 2274[16:34:54] <shibly> cat /etc/inittab has si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
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• 2276[16:37:09] <teraflops> shibly: are you trying to understand the symlink clusterfuk behind debians systemd/sysvinit implementation? Good luck :P
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• 2284[16:40:31] <shibly> teraflops: There is nothing like sysvinit in /etc/systemd/
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• 2287[16:43:46] <shibly> Suppose i have written a bash script, now how can i start it at boot time?
• 2288[16:44:34] <teraflops> If.youre using systemd create a systemd unit
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• 2291[16:46:19] <shibly> service --status-all displays service with a + or - sign in front of it, what does that mean by + or - ?
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• 2297[16:49:34] <Javabean> + is running, - is not running
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• 2300[16:52:48] <tmladek> hi, I just installed Debian 8.4, but when I boot it, it just shows a usual message about sda2 (my root partition), then blanks out, and shuts off the monitor, and I cant switch it to any other tty; but it is still responsive to magic sysrq codes
• 2301[16:54:09] <tremon> tmladek: amd graphics?
• 2302[16:54:52] <tmladek> tremon: what about them?
• 2303[16:54:59] <tmladek> oh, I misread; no, NVidia
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• 2305[16:56:36] <shibly> teraflops: Debian uses systemd
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• 2308[16:56:53] <tremon> hmm, ok, not what I thought then. almost all recent AMD graphics display that behaviour when the (non-free) firmware is missing
• 2309[16:56:54] <shibly> teraflops: If i don't use systemd, then how can i run a script at boot?
• 2310[16:56:56] <teraflops> tmladek: did you installed DE/Dm? Are you using nouveau? Which gpu model is this
• 2311[16:57:20] <tremon> not sure if nvidia is the same, or what firmware would be needed
• 2312[16:57:48] <tmladek> teraflops: yes, chose KDE on install; I do not know what I am using, as I hadnt had the chance to use the system yet; it is a GTX 460v2
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• 2315[16:59:06] <teraflops> tmladek: I wondering you can ping/ssh the machine
• 2316[16:59:12] <teraflops> Wonder if
• 2317[16:59:27] <shibly> Is using the systemd unit the only way to start a script during boot?
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• 2319[17:00:04] <teraflops> shibly: /etc/rc.local still works in jessie.
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• 2322[17:00:21] <tmladek> teraflops: good idea to try; didnt install SSH server, or I would have already been troubleshooting :/
• 2323[17:00:33] <digidog> nor 8.3.0 nor 8.4.0 netinstall wont boot on the new acer aspire v 17 nitro i legacy mode, johnny0. It tries to boot but its only blinking cursor
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• 2325[17:02:07] <shibly> teraflops: There is nothing like rc.local in /etc/
• 2326[17:02:38] <teraflops> shibly: which debian release are you using?
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• 2331[17:03:27] <tmladek> teraflops: yes, it responds to ping
• 2332[17:03:43] <dzz007> calling from debian-live GNOME Edition, Anyone heard?
• 2333[17:03:45] <shibly> Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie)
• 2334[17:04:02] <tmladek> dzz007: roger
• 2335[17:04:06] <teraflops> tmladek: then I guess your Dm does not like your gpu. Are you using nouveau?
• 2336[17:04:12] <tmladek> teraflops: how do I tell?
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• 2338[17:04:42] <shibly> teraflops: Oh, yes, there is a file named /etc/rc.local
• 2339[17:04:43] <dzz007> So, what is the best irc chatting application under debian?
• 2340[17:04:55] <teraflops> tmladek: you installed the system. If you didn't install any nvidia related thingy I guess you're on nouveau
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• 2343[17:05:17] <tmladek> teraflops: I did not notice the installer asking me about any nvidia thingy, so yes, I probably dont
• 2344[17:05:25] <digidog> dzz007: irssi terminal chat :P
• 2345[17:05:30] <tmladek> dzz007: hexchat
• 2346[17:05:45] <dzz007> how about empathy, have you heard of it?
• 2347[17:05:46] <tmladek> I just unplugged my other screen just in case it was caused by that; no dice
• 2348[17:06:10] <dzz007> tmladek: hexchat is not a free one... i am not a rich people
• 2349[17:06:16] <teraflops> tmladek: then I guess trying lightdm is a good idea
• 2350[17:06:16] <tmladek> dzz007: it is
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• 2352[17:06:24] <tmladek> teraflops: so do I reinstall?
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• 2354[17:06:32] <teraflops> Not really tm
• 2355[17:06:35] <teraflops> Ups
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• 2357[17:06:41] <dzz007> really? i remember it wasn't when i was using my windows system?
• 2358[17:07:00] <tmladek> dzz007: it is opensource
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• 2361[17:07:31] <teraflops> Just boot into rescue mode with the iso. Select your installation and install lightdm
• 2362[17:07:52] <dzz007> tmladek: well, maybe i remembered the wrong one.
• 2363[17:08:33] <shibly> replaced-url
• 2364[17:08:45] <shibly> Or will it stop during shutdown the pc?
• 2365[17:09:06] <shibly> update-rc.d blah defaults this adds in all run-levels
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• 2368[17:10:12] <shibly> There are two options, start) and stop)
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• 2381[17:16:49] <tmladek> teraflops: I just ran "update-rc.d kdm disable" so that I can at least have a normal shell, but the behavior persists - what do I have to disable for this not to happen?
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• 2384[17:17:41] <teraflops> tmladek: hmm, giving a try to the nvidia propietary driver I guess.
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• 2387[17:18:00] <teraflops> tmladek: did you google for your gpu and same issues?
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• 2390[17:19:07] <tmladek> teraflops: well to be honest Ive never had these issues before since I ran debian 6, so I did not think to check for that, but I will
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• 2399[17:22:40] <asarch> What do you do with a "W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551"?
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• 2401[17:22:54] <asarch> ...warning message?
• 2402[17:22:57] <tmladek> asarch: import the public key :)
• 2403[17:23:07] <asarch> How?
• 2404[17:23:12] <aZz7eCh> Enigmail GnuPG through Icedove broken for everyone just recently? or just me ?
• 2405[17:23:14] <tmladek> asarch: gpg --import-key 1397BC53640DB551, iirc
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• 2407[17:24:12] <asarch> gpg: Invalid option "--import-key"
• 2408[17:24:27] <tmladek> teraflops: sure enough, no error message regarding X (before it said "X server startup timeout") after I disabled kdm, but still blank screen/sleep mode of my display after boot
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• 2410[17:24:51] <tmladek> asarch: sorry, I dont have a working linux system at hand right now to check for you, but google for "gpg import key"
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• 2412[17:25:09] <asarch> Ok. Thank you tmladek
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• 2414[17:25:14] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
• 2415[17:25:33] <teraflops> tmladek: youre using nouveau? look at xorg/lsmod
• 2416[17:25:51] <tmladek> teraflops: yes, that shows up in the syslog
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• 2419[17:26:25] <aZz7eCh> just me? damn.
• 2420[17:26:53] <tmladek> teraflops: what did you mean "xorg/lsmod"?
• 2421[17:26:58] <teraflops> tmladek: give a try to nvidia blob if you're not that picky
• 2422[17:27:21] <teraflops> tmladek: look for which driver you are using
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• 2425[17:29:21] <teraflops> tmladek: ah xorg log*
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• 2430[17:31:20] <tmladek> ah gee, the chroot always fails for some reason when I press page up in less. how odd
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• 2438[17:34:10] <teraflops> tmladek: run `bash` inside the chrroot
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• 2441[17:34:20] <teraflops> chroot*
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• 2443[17:34:35] <tmladek> teraflops: huh, this is interesting - "Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)"
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• 2446[17:35:10] <teraflops> tmladek: well I suggest you to follow replaced-url
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• 2451[17:36:32] <aZz7eCh> If anyone here has much experience with GnuPG/Enigmail.. an update (no idea which) has broken my pgp. replaced-url
• 2452[17:36:32] <aZz7eCh> use GnuPG it bombs out with this error.
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• 2455[17:37:23] <teraflops> aZz7eCh: maybe you have already running gnome-keyring-whatever
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• 2458[17:37:48] <aZz7eCh> which i no doubt do yes - for network passwords etc..
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• 2462[17:38:09] <tmladek> teraflops: alright, thanks :)
• 2463[17:38:59] <aZz7eCh> teraflops, but this would have been the case prior to whatever has caused this.
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• 2466[17:40:34] <teraflops> aZz7eCh: yeah I thought of gpg-agent already exists issue, that's not your issue.
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• 2477[17:45:40] <awwal> Which pkg libreoffice uses in the background for spell checking?
• 2478[17:45:55] <awwal> aspell-... ?
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• 2485[17:49:15] <awwal> My debian system have spanish localization and without any extra dictionary he does spell checking just fine for spanish, so I'm trying to find which pkg I really need for make libreoffice do spell checking for french language
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• 2488[17:50:58] <awwal> I'm just lost with hyphen, hunspell, myspell, aspell ; I dont know which one is needed or if libreoffice spell check depends on the system localization
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• 2502[17:55:31] <tremon> awwal: going just by package dependencies, LO could use either hunspell or myspell, and hyphen and mythes alongside
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• 2508[17:57:40] <awwal> tremon, have checked those pkgs but in my system I only see aspell-es (spanish) installed ; hunspell, myspell mythes -es are not installed but libreoffice do the spell checking for spanish docs
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• 2510[17:58:05] <awwal> thats my confusion. So I thought that LO needs aspell-es?
• 2511[17:58:39] <awwal> hyphen-es not installed also
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• 2517[18:00:26] <hellyeah> hey
• 2518[18:00:44] <hellyeah> is there a package in debian to make windows usb stick?
• 2519[18:00:56] <aZz7eCh> unetbootin
• 2520[18:01:03] <aZz7eCh> i think might be what you want
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• 2522[18:01:22] <dvs> !unetbootin
• 2523[18:01:22] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. replaced-url
• 2524[18:01:36] <darkblue_b> hey - paste.debian.net says "disk full"
• 2525[18:01:39] <darkblue_b> fyi
• 2526[18:01:41] <satori> my install tells me the time is 12:00 EDT, what do I change to set my TZ to London, Enlgand?
• 2527[18:01:45] <tremon> hellyeah: what's a "windows usb stick"?
• 2528[18:01:54] <hellyeah> i have win8 iso file
• 2529[18:02:05] <hellyeah> i want to make bootable usb with windows
• 2530[18:02:14] <hellyeah> unetbootin works?
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• 2532[18:02:22] <aZz7eCh> tremon, "a make-shift stick for poking windows in the usb hole"
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• 2537[18:04:08] <teraflops> the same as a debian bootable usb stick for installing it. windows has a native tool replaced-url
• 2538[18:04:08] <satori> never mind, found "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
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• 2541[18:05:21] <hellyeah> teraflops: i am using debian currently
• 2542[18:05:33] <hellyeah> i need linux package if it is available
• 2543[18:05:38] <teraflops> aZz7eCh: winusb works
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• 2546[18:05:53] <teraflops> hellyeah: it's not in debian repos though
• 2547[18:06:03] <tremon> hellyeah: you can just use mkfs.vfat to format the usb disk, and just use any archiver to extract the iso to the usb disk
• 2548[18:06:04] <teraflops> sorry <
• 2549[18:06:05] <hellyeah> hmm
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• 2551[18:06:30] <hellyeah> tremon: let me try
• 2552[18:06:30] <Kirito> Could re-compiling Debian's PHP and MySQL packages with native CPU optimizations (i.e. -march/-mtune) make a perceivable difference in performance?
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• 2554[18:07:21] <teraflops> hellyeah: but, if your windows is EFI I guess you can do some magic as tremon says (I tested with windows 8 though)
• 2555[18:07:51] <Kirito> (I've also read that using intel's compilers over standard gcc can produce a nice performance boost with MySQL, but I have no experience with that)
• 2556[18:08:05] <tremon> hellyeah: normally, you'd use something like mbr or dosfstools to make a disk MS-style bootable, but I'm not sure if that's enough for the win8 installer
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• 2558[18:08:42] <hellyeah> let me try make.vfat
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• 2561[18:09:58] <hellyeah> mkfs.vfat
• 2562[18:10:04] <tremon> Kirito: I think it's unlikely to make much difference
• 2563[18:10:50] <teraflops> hellyeah: this works for windows 8 replaced-url
• 2564[18:11:16] <hellyeah> thanks teraflops
• 2565[18:11:19] <teraflops> hellyeah: for EFI
• 2566[18:11:29] <hellyeah> EFI?
• 2567[18:11:41] <teraflops> yeah not BIOS/MBR
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• 2569[18:11:52] <teraflops> sorry UEFI
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• 2571[18:12:16] <hellyeah> ,c
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• 2573[18:12:58] <teraflops> winusb works great if you dont mind compiling it replaced-url
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• 2575[18:13:53] <hellyeah> i can compile it
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• 2577[18:14:48] <teraflops> it's clever. it just install grub in the usb stick copy the iso to it and then boot it via grub <3
• 2578[18:15:39] <Kirito> tremon, that's generally what I'm told. It's all relative to some extent, of course. For someone like Facebook or Google, the difference can be significant because they handle massive amounts of data, and even small improvements can mean a lot. Of course, I'm not Facebook or Google. I can handle a decent bit of traffic, but not really anything enterprise grade
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• 2581[18:16:09] <Kirito> I think I might boot up my old laptop and test a few sql benchs with and without build optimizations for academic purposes if anything and see what happens :D
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• 2583[18:17:24] <tremon> Kirito: the biggest difference between processor architectures are the introduction of more specialized instructions (vector, encryption, etc). It's unlikely php or mysql benefits much from those
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• 2585[18:17:44] <tremon> (processor families I mean. within the same architecture)
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• 2589[18:18:20] <tako> is there any source for sublime text 3?
• 2590[18:19:01] <Kirito> Yeah, I know that much so far. I was thinking that MySQL specifically may actually benefit more from those things than other packages, but I'm possibly completely wrong there. Just with the nature of MySQL / RDBMS' in general, it seemed like it would be able to benefit more from the additional CPU instructions
• 2591[18:19:38] <Kirito> Also since when running a web server, PHP and MySQL are the things consuming a majority of the systems resources, maybe even the small benefits could make it worthwhile
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• 2594[18:20:28] <tremon> well in theory, the optimizations that benefit most programs (including php and mysql) is to align data structures and loops according to the target processor's cache sizes
• 2595[18:20:50] <tremon> but that is much more involved than simply recompiling
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• 2599[18:22:08] <Kirito> Ahh, I see. I should take the time to sit down and maybe actually learn C or some other non-interpreted language some time, then maybe I can start to learn more about low-level stuff like this :D
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• 2601[18:23:15] <tremon> it's not really about C though, it's about knowing processor architecture
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• 2605[18:25:22] <Kirito> I think Coursera actually has a few courses on things like that. I should set aside some time for that
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• 2608[18:26:07] <tremon> that's probably a better way to start :)
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• 2611[18:27:49] <Kirito> replaced-url
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• 2617[18:32:30] <tremon> not really entry-level though, I think replaced-url
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• 2621[18:34:36] <tmladek> teraflops: what actually worked was upgrading to testing as I had intended :)
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• 2623[18:35:00] <tmladek> but now I have a problem with KDE, it just black-screens after login. Anybody encountered this kind of issue?
• 2624[18:35:19] <Kirito> Ah, good point, thank you. I'll add this one to my watch list
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• 2627[18:36:22] <teraflops> tmladek: so, newer kernel? still doing nouveau?
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• 2629[18:36:45] <tmladek> teraflops: still nouveau, yes; newer kernel and Xorg and noveau too, I suppose
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• 2631[18:37:26] <teraflops> no idea about the kde part :(
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• 2636[18:38:32] <tmladek> teraflops: no problem, thanks anyway!
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• 2646[18:42:30] <awwal> libreoffice auto spell checking issue solved :) required pkgs : 'myspell-Xlanguage' 'mythes-Xlanguage'
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• 2648[18:43:19] <hellyeah> windows doesnt have password but when i try to open hdd it ask for pass
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• 2658[18:47:21] <white_magic> does anyone here know which program is used in raspbian debian (for raspberry pi) to automatically mount usb drives?
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• 2662[18:49:04] <wewlad> hello debs, a question about mem usage
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• 2664[18:49:22] <wewlad> I just learned there's a 'free' command/util that shows mem usage
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• 2667[18:49:38] <wewlad> but it's data don't match the data shown by 'ps'
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• 2671[18:50:33] <wewlad> I mean in 'ps' I have only 2 processes using 5.4% and 4.2%, the rest of processes are around 0-1.5%
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• 2677[18:52:14] <abrotman> white_magic: ask #raspbian
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• 2682[18:54:38] <white_magic> ok
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• 2684[18:54:46] <white_magic> oops
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• 2686[18:55:39] <wewlad> so I've just summed all mem usage % in ps and the sum for all processes is 54%
• 2687[18:56:27] <wewlad> and 'free -m' says that out of total 3963Mb I have 370Mb used, which is way more than 54%
• 2688[18:56:40] <wewlad> is it okay or is it a sign of a memory leak?
• 2689[18:57:30] <exedore6> Are you counting the cached memory usage?
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• 2694[19:01:23] <teraflops> wewlad: sorry for throwing links at you, that said replaced-url
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• 2704[19:06:06] <wewlad> teraflops: don't be sorry and thanks for the link, there's quite a good answer there
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• 2711[19:10:44] <m3tti> does anyone know a good friendica hoster?
• 2712[19:10:57] <m3tti> or do i need to set it up on my own?
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• 2753[19:33:03] <satori> I've got nginx installed, but if I try to uninstall Apache, then WordPress wants to uninstall too. Is there a way around this?
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• 2756[19:33:25] <satori> I want to keep nginx and wordpress, but lose Apache.
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• 2801[19:54:37] <exedore6> satori: You could use equivs to build a package the 'provides' apache so Wordpress doesn't complain.
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• 2803[19:54:49] <prussian> ugh, I hate when that happens exedore6
• 2804[19:55:01] <prussian> I don't think you can without putting your package manager in a bad state
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• 2808[19:55:27] <prussian> I know on RHEL, if you install something like nagios it pulls httpd as a dep as well.
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• 2814[19:56:40] <raspberrypifan> hey why i am getting this error
• 2815[19:56:42] <raspberrypifan> W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
• 2816[19:56:42] <raspberrypifan> W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
• 2817[19:56:42] <raspberrypifan> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
• 2818[19:56:58] <exedore6> prussian: Only other thought is to repackage either Wordpress or ngenix with the right keywords. Equivs seemed like the least broken way (or just install wp in /opt I guess)
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• 2821[19:57:22] <barubaru> Just take it from another place. Probably this source is dead
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• 2825[19:58:00] <HerculeP> non-us.debian.org doesn't resolve indeed
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• 2827[19:58:22] <raspberrypifan> is that an issue with my particular install or is it with all of the newer debian installs
• 2828[19:58:35] <prussian> exedore6: yeah. Oh well.
• 2829[19:58:47] <prussian> I would just keep using nginx for now
• 2830[19:58:49] <barubaru> Its an issue with a website i guess, check another mirror
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• 2832[19:59:29] <raspberrypifan> i guess id have to update the apt file right?
• 2833[19:59:41] <raspberrypifan> or are these sources really needed and i can just # them out
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• 2837[20:00:43] <barubaru> Just find any working site and throw out the rest
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• 2840[20:01:13] <raspberrypifan> is this a common source cause id imagine other ppl would be complaining if it was
• 2841[20:01:21] <raspberrypifan> i didnt build this debian it was built for me on a vm
• 2842[20:02:09] <barubaru> Put there german or american source
• 2843[20:03:41] <raspberrypifan> is there a list of sources
• 2844[20:03:43] <raspberrypifan> plz
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• 2854[20:07:22] <f31n> hi, since the new saba update i can't access the server any more from a mac - does anyone else has that problem?
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• 2862[20:13:02] <solix> Did anyone maybe tried to install srware iron ("the ungoogled chrom")?
• 2863[20:13:21] <barubaru> Ungoogled chrom is called chromium
• 2864[20:13:33] <solix> Well, actually installing went fine with gdebi and the iron.deb package, but I just cannot start it...
• 2865[20:13:58] <raspberrypifan> i found a nice huge list of sources
• 2866[20:14:00] <raspberrypifan> but apparently i need curl
• 2867[20:14:04] <raspberrypifan> and that doesnt come with debian
• 2868[20:14:11] <solix> barubaru Yes, Chromium, indeed... There is also Iridium
• 2869[20:15:18] <barubaru> Rasp you just need to find any single working repo and then install all what you need
• 2870[20:15:56] <barubaru> Repository
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• 2874[20:17:02] <gionnico> I upgraded from stable to testing and aptitude was removed. Now I can't install it again: replaced-url
• 2875[20:17:07] <gionnico> Anyone got a hint?
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• 2879[20:18:24] <barubaru> Downgrade to testing?
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• 2881[20:18:43] <markybob> gionnico, testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
• 2882[20:18:48] <barubaru> *Stable
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• 2897[20:24:04] <white_magic> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to prevent a user from navigating their home share when they authenticate to Samba?
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• 2900[20:25:43] <jim> is it possible to determine from grub.conf where grub was installed? I have a LOT of grubs everywhere, and when I boot, it's to some older copy of grub that doesn't get altered when its grub.conf is updated... how can I make sure the right grub is booted?
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• 2904[20:26:37] <jim> three 2tb drives, and copies of old installs from 15 and 20 years ago
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• 2915[20:29:23] <unborn> white_magic: it should be set up within your samba shares
• 2916[20:29:41] <unborn> like /shared-folder that should lock them in that folder
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• 2925[20:31:47] <solix> Hmmm, might be sounding silly, but I just cannot start the browser after install. There is /usr/share/iron - is this the right folder to launch the browser?
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• 2929[20:32:36] <tremon> jim: the path to grub.conf is hardcoded in stage1.5 at install time, the answer to your first question is "no". The answer to your second question is normally to run grub-install again on your boot device
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• 2932[20:36:42] <jim> tremon, if I turn off secure booting (which I have), does that mean it will not boot from the uefi grub boot loader file?
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• 2934[20:38:02] <tremon> don't know, that depends on your bios. If your bios can do efi boot without secure boot, it should still work with grub-efi
• 2935[20:38:39] <tremon> if your bios only does efi boot with secure boot enabled, it will probably try to boot through the mbr/grub-pc route
• 2936[20:38:47] <ecom> I'm missing UI elements such as highlighting in the context menu, boxes around text, and scrollbars. I'm trying to run default gtk themes like Adwaita, but they seem to be broken after doing a netinst of Debian Jessie. What packages am I missing?
• 2937[20:38:56] <raspberrypifan> is there anyway to make an image of my cloud server and store on my computer to restore it when it goes back?
• 2938[20:39:23] <tremon> raspberrypifan: ask your cloud server provider
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• 2940[20:39:55] <raspberrypifan> i know they do have anything
• 2941[20:40:03] <raspberrypifan> cause its got the worst customer service ever
• 2942[20:40:04] <raspberrypifan> but its free
• 2943[20:40:14] <raspberrypifan> cant i do some kind of dd to of my cloud to my home
• 2944[20:40:49] <tremon> sure you can, with netcat
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• 2946[20:41:03] <tremon> but how will you restore that image?
• 2947[20:41:47] <tremon> you can't dd to the disk your system is running on, it will crash halfway through or you'll end up with a corrupt image
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• 2951[20:42:26] <raspberrypifan> hmm
• 2952[20:42:29] <raspberrypifan> is there any other option?
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• 2954[20:43:01] <tremon> to do a meaningful (bare-metal) restore, you side a side-channel to access the cloud disk from outside the running server
• 2955[20:43:12] <raspberrypifan> right
• 2956[20:43:16] <raspberrypifan> thats the exact problewm
• 2957[20:43:21] <raspberrypifan> cause this cloud thing gives you no way to do
• 2958[20:43:27] <raspberrypifan> even the building of the machine itself is done by them
• 2959[20:43:32] <raspberrypifan> thats why its free
• 2960[20:43:56] <tremon> ok, then you're stuck with filesystem-level backups, like rsync
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• 2966[20:45:22] <raspberrypifan> rsync
• 2967[20:45:25] <raspberrypifan> ill have ot look into that
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• 2971[20:45:50] <tremon> that's not really a problem though, rsync is a great backup tool. But it's not an exact "image" of your cloud server, it's a filesystem copy
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• 2989[20:48:33] <jim> is it true the uefi booting does not involve writing to specific disk sectors, and instead involves files?
• 2990[20:48:55] <tremon> yes
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• 2992[20:50:01] <jim> so, when the uefi filesystem is backed up using (say) rsync, it can be restored to a blank drive by putting the filesystem there and copying the files back?
• 2993[20:50:03] <tremon> to be exact, the uefi spec requires that the boot system can read FAT(32) partitions, and run executables from there
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• 2998[20:51:33] <tremon> you can backup and restore files from there, you just need to make sure that the partition you're restoring to has the correct signature (it should be marked as EFI System Partition in the partition table)
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• 3001[20:52:18] <jim> and, does the partition table need to be gpt?
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• 3006[20:53:35] <tremon> not exactly sure. There is an ESP partition type for mbr disks (0xEF), but I can't vouch for every single bios/efi implementation out there
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• 3017[20:55:39] <jim> gotcha,,, so, all the combinations are then possible... either partition table, impl. supports gpt but not mbr, impl supports mbr but not gpt, impl supports both, impl supports neither (aka broken or not uefi)
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• 3022[20:56:22] <tremon> with linux (and possibly *bsd), yes. Windows does not support booting from GPT disks in bios mode, nor booting from MBR disks in EFI mode
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• 3024[20:58:00] <tremon> for bios-booting with grub from a GPT disk, you need a (tiny) partition marked as bios boot partition: replaced-url
• 3025[20:58:15] <jim> ok, hmm. as far as my own issue that leaves me in the same place... but more well informed, thanks for that
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• 3027[20:59:07] <tremon> jim: so where are you at then? you've described your issue, but not your complete situation. are you efi booting or bios booting?
• 3028[20:59:20] <tremon> (i.e. do you have grub-efi or grub-pc installed)
• 3029[20:59:30] <jim> bios, I turned that stuff off for now
• 3030[21:00:00] <jim> let me check on that part... btw, do those packages conflict?
• 3031[21:00:34] <tremon> I don't think they conflict, but not sure
• 3032[21:00:57] <tremon> scratch that, they do conflict
• 3033[21:01:10] <tremon> grub-efi-amd64 Conflicts: grub-pc
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• 3035[21:01:17] <jim> so I cannot have both installed
• 3036[21:01:38] <jim> ok, grub-pc is installed, grub-efi is not
• 3037[21:02:05] <tremon> good, at least your bios and debian agree on the boot method :)
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• 3042[21:02:39] <tremon> so you said that changes to grub.conf are not reflected in the grub menu at boot?
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• 3048[21:03:31] <jim> the machine boots a grub I must have installed sometime in the past... maybe recent, it has a debian 8.3 choice (I'm running 8.4, so not too recent)
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• 3053[21:04:23] <zz> lol
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• 3057[21:05:28] <tremon> ok, so I think there's two possibilities: either your bios is booting from the wrong disk, or it's booting from the right disk but the grub bootloader reads from the wrong /boot partition
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• 3060[21:06:18] <jim> tremon, I think that's right, since I'm running 8.4, the grub menu entry should probably say so
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• 3063[21:07:07] <tremon> you can probably fix this by re-running grub-install /dev/sda from your current system, but do you actually need to boot into the other system(s)?
• 3064[21:07:34] <tremon> the nuclear option is to just write the new grub bootloader to every drive (/dev/sda, /dev/sdb and so on)
• 3065[21:07:49] <jim> probably not... and if I ever do, I can probably find it from the grub shell
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• 3067[21:08:14] <tremon> ok then installing grub to every hdd is probably the safest option
• 3068[21:08:52] <tremon> I'd also advise you to run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and check every disk there, so that grub gets re-installed on upgrade
• 3069[21:09:19] <tremon> and you can install os-prober to autodetect other OS installs on your system
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• 3073[21:11:06] <jim> what does debconf store about grub-pc?
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• 3075[21:11:36] <tremon> the kernel command line options and on which devices to install the bootloader
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• 3078[21:13:10] <tremon> it's a bit messy, because those command line options are still stored in /etc/default/grub. You can still edit those files by hand, but changes to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* lines are no longer persisted there
• 3079[21:13:16] <jim> ok, cool... so while the config file (grub.conf) doesn't have the device to write grub to, the debconf system does... good to know
• 3080[21:13:18] <mlin112> does anyone know what type of program i am supposed to use to read a .nfo file? when i open it in a text editor it has a bunch of tags and looks messy
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• 3088[21:15:44] <tremon> mlin112: that can't be helped. .nfo files are simple text files, but without any encoding information. If you know its origin, you can probably use iconv to convert the "foreign" encoding to your system's native encoding and then it might display normally in your text editor
• 3089[21:17:04] <tremon> mlin112: but that requires you to a) get familiar with iconv b) know the original encoding of the file
• 3090[21:17:05] <mlin112> tremon, ok thanks
• 3091[21:17:26] <mlin112> i think it might be for kodi
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• 3105[21:24:31] <DHowett> aren't .nfo files usually distributed with digital copies of media, identifying the source and container/stream information in a human-readable format?
• 3106[21:24:59] <DHowett> (i.e. they're not useful in the least)
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• 3109[21:27:02] <ecom> I'm missing UI elements such as highlighting in the context menu,
• 3110[21:27:02] <ecom> boxes around text, and scrollbars. I'm trying to run default gtk
• 3111[21:27:02] <ecom> themes like Adwaita, but they seem to be broken after doing a
• 3112[21:27:02] <ecom> netinst of Debian Jessie. What packages am I missing?
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• 3114[21:28:12] <DHowett> harsh
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• 3120[21:30:19] <tdm4> Hi all.. I'm running Debian Jessie and using Wine-1.8 from backports. It keeps saying "Could not load wine-gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled". How do install gecko in wine?
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• 3123[21:31:59] <tremon> tdm4: there's a libwine-gecko-2.24 package
• 3124[21:32:09] <tdm4> tremon: yes, I have that installed. Wine ignores it.
• 3125[21:32:10] <tremon> not sure why it's not pulled as a dependency by wine
• 3126[21:32:17] <tremon> hmm...
• 3127[21:32:25] <tdm4> found this bug but it's unhelpful: replaced-url
• 3128[21:32:27] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 3129[21:32:43] <tdm4> there a way I can put gecko into wine properly as a workaround?
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• 3131[21:33:03] <tremon> funny thing is, wine doesn't complain for me but I still have libwine-gecko-1.4 installed...
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• 3134[21:33:22] <tdm4> I tried 'msiexec /i wine_gecko-2.24-x86.msi' from the directory libwine_gecko is installed.. it didn't do anything
• 3135[21:33:42] <DHowett> interestingly, the wine 1.9.7 devel version decided to download wine-gecko on its own on first launch
• 3136[21:33:47] <tdm4> ii libwine-gecko-2.24 2.24+dfsg-1
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• 3138[21:34:23] <TomTomTo1> it's possible to download it from winehq. replaced-url
• 3139[21:34:27] <tdm4> is there a way to get wine to download wine-gecko?
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• 3142[21:34:50] <SpeakerToMeat> Hello
• 3143[21:35:21] <tremon> tdm4: replaced-url
• 3144[21:35:25] <tdm4> according to that site.. for Wine 1.8, I'd need wine_gecko-2.40.. which is much newer than libwine-gecko-2.24 :)
• 3145[21:35:36] <SpeakerToMeat> Question, does the layout in XKBLAYOUT in /etc/default/keyboard affect the console (ttys) keyboard? or do I need to set it in initramfs?
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• 3148[21:35:50] <tremon> well that would explain why it complains at least :)
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• 3151[21:36:32] <tremon> SpeakerToMeat: it should affect it iirc, but not sure. Try it and see?
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• 3160[21:38:24] <tdm4> tremon: wine 1.8 doesn't try to download gecko at all.. I guess the package is broken
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• 3168[21:41:18] <hellyeah> hey
• 3169[21:41:27] <hellyeah> debian didnt see my 3g device
• 3170[21:41:38] <hellyeah> do i need to install any extra package?
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• 3175[21:45:47] <de-facto> how do i disable services when systemctl does not complete? :-(
• 3176[21:47:21] <de-facto> is there a filesystem interface to do this like back in the days with systemV?
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• 3178[21:47:57] <de-facto> for some reason everytime i use systemctl i get a headache :-//
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• 3180[21:48:30] <jmcnaught> de-facto: "systemctl list-units -t service" and "systemctl status" can both list unit
• 3181[21:48:44] <jmcnaught> systemctl has tab complete for me though
• 3182[21:49:08] <de-facto> yeah they could if it was not so buggy
• 3183[21:49:11] <de-facto> Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out
• 3184[21:49:20] <de-facto> GREAT :-/
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• 3186[21:49:41] <hellyeah> i am connecting 3g with usb
• 3187[21:49:47] <hellyeah> i am using wodofone
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• 3189[21:50:13] <hellyeah> any suggestion?
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• 3191[21:50:21] <jmcnaught> de-facto: what kind of system is this? a VPS?
• 3192[21:50:27] <de-facto> yes
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• 3195[21:50:51] <de-facto> it was on high i/o wait, so i wanted to disable some services and reboot then
• 3196[21:50:59] <jmcnaught> de-facto: did you upgrade to jessie, or did the VPS come with it? what does uname -a say your kernel is?
• 3197[21:51:12] <de-facto> its jessie clean installed some time ago
• 3198[21:51:37] <jmcnaught> and the kernel?
• 3199[21:51:49] <de-facto> default
• 3200[21:52:02] <de-facto> even sync takes very long
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• 3202[21:52:07] <jmcnaught> what does "uname -a" say?
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• 3204[21:52:29] <de-facto> 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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• 3210[21:53:28] <tecra_m1> i installed jessie on an old laptop (Toshiba Tecra M1) using CD1 after i finished installing the base system, i rebooted and from the command line i proceeded to install xorg. lightdm and mate-desktop environment. After they were installed, i rebooted but X does not start. The screen goes solid black. help!
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• 3212[21:53:42] <de-facto> for some reason it has some io wait problems, probably it uses a lot of swap
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• 3215[21:54:27] <tecra_m1> The laptop is: replaced-url
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• 3219[21:55:13] <tecra_m1> lscpci says: Graphics Processor AGP 4x - Trident XP4m32 - 32 MB DDR SDRAM
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• 3221[21:56:23] <de-facto> jmcnaught how can i disable services when systemctl is flawed? can i delete some links somewhere?
• 3222[21:56:54] <dom7th> qq
• 3223[21:56:54] <dom7th> q
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• 3226[21:57:24] <tremon> de-facto: iirc you need to mask them. For every service file in /lib/systemd that you need to disable, create a symlink in /etc/systemd to /dev/null
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• 3231[21:58:25] <tecra_m1> btw, the laptop has 1 gigabyte of RAM
• 3232[21:58:33] <jmcnaught> de-facto: yes as tremon says.. the symlinks would be in /etc/systemd/system and need to have the same name as they do in /lib/systemd/system
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• 3238[21:59:48] <jmcnaught> de-facto: did you earlier have systemd or udev packages fail to install or upgrade properly?
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• 3243[22:01:02] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: can you put a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on replaced-url
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• 3246[22:01:55] <de-facto> jmcnaught not that i know of any problems with those. i guess i ran out of ram (java dangit) and killed all those now, but i want to disable the services completely before rebooting
• 3247[22:02:04] <tdm4> tremon: got it working! Downloaded wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi and ran wine msiexec /i <the file>.. all sorted
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• 3249[22:02:28] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, how can i copy the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log if the screen goes black before it starts X?
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• 3251[22:02:38] <de-facto> jmcnaught where does systemctl place its symlinks for enabled services? or arent there any on the filesystem?
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• 3257[22:04:05] <de-facto> the problem always seems to be magically related to systemd somehow, cost me so much time already :-/
• 3258[22:04:07] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: boot from a livecd, copy the file to a USB stick. have you researched to see if this card is still supported by linux? Did you have graphics during the installer (or did you use text mode)?
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• 3260[22:05:00] <jmcnaught> de-facto: "man systemd.unit" tells you where units go, and i already mentioned it
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• 3266[22:07:29] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, i do not have a spare CD to create a live CD. The old laptop does not support booting from usb. I used C1 and perfomed a text install, that is i installed the base system without X. I rebooted and from the command line i installed xorg, lightdm and mate-desktop environment
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• 3269[22:07:55] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: can you boot into rescue mode from the grub menu?
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• 3276[22:09:13] <jim> tremon, grub seems to be working better now
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• 3279[22:10:09] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, do you mean recovery mode from the grub menu?
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• 3282[22:10:37] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: yes sorry, have you tried that?
• 3283[22:10:39] <jim> tecra_m1, the isos for the live cd are writable to a usb stick, because they're hybrid boot
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• 3285[22:11:04] <jim> (you don't have to waste a cd blank)
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• 3295[22:13:06] <tecra_m1> jim: The old laptop does not support booting from usb
• 3296[22:13:15] <de-facto> Failed to start reboot.target: Connection timed out
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• 3298[22:13:38] <de-facto> i LOVE systemd
• 3299[22:13:41] <de-facto> its the best ever
• 3300[22:14:09] <tremon> remember, it's never the fault of systemd. it's always a distro or user error
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• 3302[22:14:23] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, i booted recovery mode from the grub menu. what do i do now?
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• 3305[22:15:43] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, i booted recovery mode from the grub menu and i am at the command line waiting for your instructions
• 3306[22:15:50] <jmcnaught> de-facto: it sounds like your dbus has gone AWOL, have you looked at replaced-url
• 3307[22:17:16] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: do you have a network connection? the goal here is to get your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on to a paste site so others can help you troubleshoot
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• 3313[22:18:00] <de-facto> well the question is, how can i reboot without data loss now?
• 3314[22:18:49] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, i have right now a working internet connection on the old laptop running recovery mode
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• 3316[22:19:53] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell tecra_m1 about pastebinit
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• 3318[22:20:22] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: check the message from dpkg and use pastebinit on the Xorg.0.log file, then tell us the URL
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• 3343[22:27:06] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, replaced-url
• 3344[22:28:03] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: sorry that paste site doesn't work for me. didn't pastebinit default to replaced-url
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• 3358[22:30:53] <de-facto> is there any chance to get that wonderfull systemd into a state wich would me allow to reboot my server?
• 3359[22:30:58] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: well it seems like the debian paste site is getting spammed at the moment, but if you could use a paste site that doesn't require javascript i'll take a look
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• 3361[22:31:59] <jmcnaught> de-facto: for services that still have an init script you could use those to stop the services. otherwise you may need to do a hard reboot.
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• 3363[22:32:08] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, replaced-url
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• 3365[22:32:19] <de-facto> hmm ok great
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• 3372[22:33:47] <de-facto> i really miss the good old init.d system
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• 3375[22:34:23] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: so in this file you want to look for lines with (EE). On line 321 there's: (EE) TRIDENT: Failed to load module "xaa" (module does not exist, 0). You might be able to get this to work using an xorg.conf that forces the VESA or fbdev driver (which should be used as a fall back)
• 3376[22:34:59] <jmcnaught> de-facto: you're dealing with a very uncommon problem that doesn't seem to be very documented very much on line. complaining about systemd is just going to make people like me not want to help you
• 3377[22:35:12] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, sorry but i am a desktop newbie and do not understand what you are saying
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• 3379[22:35:45] <SpeakerToMeat> Something odd happens
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• 3381[22:36:28] <jmcnaught> tecra_m1: normally Xorg is very good at autodetecting hardware and will fallback to generic drivers if necessary. It does this without a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. You can make a file that will force it to use a fallback driver. Have you searched online for solutions used by others using this video card?
• 3382[22:36:49] <SpeakerToMeat> my kbd layout is set correctly on Xorg gnome3, but if I go to console (ctrl alt f1) the layout is wrong there (a strange one) until I run loadkeys es, and if I move from console back to xorg, the layout there changed to be the same as in console (the odd one).....
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• 3388[22:41:49] <de-facto> jmcnaught im sorry, its just i am having a load of problems with systemd everytime, maybe its my fault somehow
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• 3392[22:44:22] <lordknicle> hi guys
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• 3394[22:44:33] <lordknicle> i got a problem with debian
• 3395[22:44:40] <lordknicle> someone can help me please?
• 3396[22:44:56] <at0m> lordknicle: just ask!
• 3397[22:46:00] <lordknicle> ive installed debian
• 3398[22:46:21] <lordknicle> but screen dont start
• 3399[22:46:22] <lordknicle> i mean
• 3400[22:46:23] <lordknicle> x
• 3401[22:46:53] <lordknicle> i have seen xorg.0.log for details
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• 3404[22:47:18] <lordknicle> because it says cant load module nv
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• 3406[22:47:45] <lordknicle> what should i do?
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• 3408[22:48:22] <at0m> dpkg: tell lordknicle about nvidia
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• 3411[22:49:07] <tecra_m1> jmcnaught, i did not find any debian jessie related xorg.conf for my graphics. I actally found replaced-url
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• 3414[22:49:50] <lordknicle> a friend of mine said i should force nvidia vesa driver
• 3415[22:49:54] <lordknicle> but i dont know how
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• 3428[22:53:57] <de-facto> jmcnaught i definately have some sort of underlying problem, since top always shows 97% wa or such for some periods
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• 3443[22:59:31] <tecra_m1> i installed jessie on an old laptop (Toshiba Tecra M1) using CD1 after i finished installing the base system, i rebooted and from the command line i proceeded to install xorg. lightdm and mate-desktop environment. After they were installed, i rebooted but X does not start. The screen goes solid black. help!
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• 3447[23:00:44] <de-facto> i managed to reboot the vps but it still is VERY unresponsive, how can i find out why it spends so much time in i/o wait?
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• 3453[23:01:33] <somiaj> tecra_m1: I would disable the displaymanger (lightdm) and then check your logs to see why xorg isn't correctly loading up
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• 3455[23:02:09] <dvs> tecra_m1, or boot up in rescue mode and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
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• 3457[23:03:07] <tecra_m1> somiaj, dvs : replaced-url
• 3458[23:04:01] <dvs> trident? I'm out.
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• 3461[23:05:17] <somiaj> yea not sure there either. Seems to be various warnings from that module, but it is an older one so unsure what sort of tciks there is
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• 3465[23:07:33] <tecra_m1> somiaj: i was told by jmcnaught ... tecra_m1: so in this file you want to look for lines with (EE). On line 321 there's: (EE) TRIDENT: Failed to load module "xaa" (module does not exist, 0). You might be able to get this to work using an xorg.conf that forces the VESA or fbdev driver (which should be used as a fall back)
• 3466[23:08:10] <tecra_m1> but i am a desktop newbie and do not understand what he said
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• 3468[23:08:30] <tonk> I'm trying to print a document from mousepad; can't seem to figure out how to make wordwrap apply while printing, and I'd like to set the margins.
• 3469[23:08:43] <de-facto> lol it takes ten minutes to install iotop (135 kb)
• 3470[23:08:55] <somiaj> tecra_m1: I wasn't sure if that missing module was an issue or not, it then loads another 'fallback' module sucessfully.
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• 3476[23:09:54] <somiaj> tecra_m1: vesa is just the most generic video driver that almost all cards would support. jmcnaught suggestion was to look up the syntax for xorg.conf and force xorg to load that driver instead of the trident.
• 3477[23:10:19] <somiaj> You might only need 3-4 lines
• 3478[23:10:59] <tecra_m1> somiaj, how??
• 3479[23:11:17] <tecra_m1> somiaj, how can i force vesa?
• 3480[23:11:29] <de-facto> It does not seem that i got high I/O at all, but spend most of the time in i/O wait according to top, what could cause such behaviour? system is so slow sometimes that its unusable
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• 3482[23:13:03] <somiaj> could it be waiting for the host?
• 3483[23:13:48] <de-facto> you mean the vps host is bricked somehow?
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• 3486[23:14:11] <tecra_m1> somiaj, i also tried: replaced-url
• 3487[23:14:38] <somiaj> de-facto: well not bricked, but its scheduler is making the guest wait for access to its drive. I'm unsure if this is the case or how to check. It was more just a random thought.
• 3488[23:15:27] <de-facto> somiaj yeah i was thinking about that too, but can this cause systemd to be unable to manage any services? (even after reboot)?
• 3489[23:15:54] <de-facto> not sure if i have a problem on my box (guest) or if i should contact my provider about it
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• 3491[23:16:02] <dvs> tecra_m1, the device section in response #4 is what somiaj is referring to. Those four lines. Except put "vesa" instead of "trident"
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• 3497[23:17:38] <teraflops> tecra_m1: something like this I suppose. drop it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-vesa.conf replaced-url
• 3498[23:17:46] <de-facto> i get a load of error messages about any systemd operation i perform
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• 3500[23:18:44] <somiaj> de-facto: only systemd, what if you just try to read/write to the disk?
• 3501[23:18:55] <de-facto> you mean like dd to a file?
• 3502[23:19:25] <tecra_m1> somiaj, with vesa will i have 1024x768 at 24bit colour?
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• 3506[23:20:59] <fmerges> hello, is there something i have to do to get the html5 player working?
• 3507[23:21:31] <fmerges> i just keeps loading and loading and nothing happens, changing to flash it works fine...
• 3508[23:21:48] <abrotman> in which browser?
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• 3510[23:22:12] <fmerges> iceweasel
• 3511[23:22:23] <abrotman> I didn't have to od anytihng, should work
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• 3513[23:22:40] <somiaj> could it be the site?
• 3514[23:22:47] <markybob> fmerges: replaced-url
• 3515[23:22:53] <fmerges> for me the videos doesnt load, they just keep like loading, erm youtube, imdb, khan etc..
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• 3519[23:23:53] <fmerges> when i switch back to default in youtube it works with flash..
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• 3522[23:25:47] <tecra_m1> teraflops, with vesa will i have 1024x768 at 24bit colour?
• 3523[23:25:58] <teraflops> i guess so
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• 3525[23:26:04] <noqnio> maybe it doesnt work cause you installed flash
• 3526[23:26:06] <noqnio> i had that problem
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• 3534[23:29:24] <de-facto> somiaj for some reason the whole system feels unresponsive, but disk io bandwidth is ok-ish, jitter and ping beyond usable
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• 3536[23:29:57] <markybob> get a new vps provider :P
• 3537[23:30:44] * simonlnu has a xen host he's happy with
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• 3543[23:33:03] <de-facto> well this never happened, and something is very wrong with my systemd too (or could a bad jitter in io wait cause it to be completely unusable?)
• 3544[23:33:38] <de-facto> "Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out" well which connection from what to which target and for what reason?
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• 3546[23:34:16] <markybob> i thought it was made clear a while ago that your dbus is mia
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• 3548[23:34:39] <de-facto> i rebooted since then
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• 3550[23:36:00] <simonlnu> dbus still wonky i bet
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• 3552[23:36:35] <tecra_m1> teraflops, with vesa will i have 1024x768 at 24bit colour?
• 3553[23:37:07] <tecra_m1> teraflops, will i be able to play youtube videos
• 3554[23:37:17] <tecra_m1> teraflops, will i be able to play youtube videos at 480p?
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• 3557[23:37:52] <somiaj> tecra_m1: I don't even think the triden card supports that. vesa should but it is software, so it can be slow
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• 3559[23:38:13] <teraflops> tecra_m1: 1) yes 2) not sure 3) not sure
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• 3561[23:38:25] <somiaj> according the the arch wiki, the trident only supports 16bit color
• 3562[23:38:48] <somiaj> so I doubt vesa will improve on that.
• 3563[23:39:01] <teraflops> wow
• 3564[23:39:16] <simonlnu> trident is like *old* stuff
• 3565[23:39:42] <teraflops> I just look at old xorg conf I had and I had 24 bit for a vesa fallback
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• 3567[23:39:46] <somiaj> yea, the arch wiki says you should rop the color to 8bit to speed it up.
• 3568[23:39:50] <simonlnu> they barely made onto agp
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• 3571[23:40:29] <teraflops> tecra_m1: 1) no 2) not sure 3) not sure :P
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• 3573[23:40:30] <de-facto> how can i check the health status of dbus?
• 3574[23:40:55] <somiaj> de-facto: systemctl status dbus
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• 3577[23:41:06] <somiaj> de-facto: though maybe ps fax | grep dbus (see if it is even running)
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• 3580[23:41:41] <somiaj> de-facto: since systemd is causing issues you may have to check the logs for dbus messages
• 3581[23:41:54] <de-facto> somiaj it seems to be running but systemctl is somewhat disfunct
• 3582[23:42:08] <de-facto> it always says connection timed out
• 3583[23:42:16] <somiaj> de-facto: is this a fresh vps or something that happened after you ahd it for a while?
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• 3585[23:42:34] <tecra_m1> X is now running on my Tecra M1 laptop 1024x768 @16 bit colour. Will do some tests regarding youtube videos and watching movies. Will be back soon. Thanks. BTW, I am using vesa
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• 3587[23:42:46] <teraflops> tecra_m1: with vesa?
• 3588[23:43:03] <de-facto> somiaj its running since jessie release already, it has automated update and backup cronjobs though in the night
• 3589[23:43:17] <somiaj> tecra_m1: hopefully it works okay. vesa is software so can be cpu intesnive as it isn't taking avantage of the grpahics card, but it should work.
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• 3591[23:43:33] <sharkman> cani ask a questio here
• 3592[23:43:41] <somiaj> sharkman: if it is about debian, go for it.
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• 3601[23:47:44] <somiaj> de-facto: can you determine when it started having these issues? The logs say what sort of packages were upgraded/changed?
• 3602[23:47:56] <memelord> hekllo
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• 3609[23:49:32] <de-facto> somiaj hmm not really, i just noticed its unresponsive this evening
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• 3613[23:52:48] <de-facto> well mysql and php got some upgrades
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• 3615[23:53:00] <de-facto> but i doubt those can cause such issues
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• 3618[23:54:23] <de-facto> even when i "ls" it seems to wait for seconds
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• 3621[23:54:40] <somiaj> de-facto: nothing in dmesg?
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• 3627[23:56:38] <jmcnaught> de-facto: does your VPS provider have a way to check the status or health of the node you're on? Have you asked them to check?
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• 3629[23:56:58] <tecra_m1> i can confirm that i can watch youtube videos at 360p and non HD film too on an old Tecra M1 laptop with vesa. The default install will render you wiath a system WITHOUT X unless you install just the base system and do some extra config at the command line
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• 3634[23:57:35] <de-facto> jmcnaught not yet its the middle of the night here, nothing unusual in the html interface though
• 3635[23:57:50] <crayon> how can i get a list of active window names open?
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• 3637[23:58:07] <crayon> i have some bs blank window that i can't X out and that i dont know the PID to to kill
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