• 0[00:00:36] <oxae> on the client do as rattking suggests to connect: ssh -i somedir/id_rsa
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• 8[00:01:26] <b0s3d> but id_rsa is all i need or?
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• 10[00:02:05] <b0s3d> bbl guys, with result :)
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• 13[00:03:41] <SerajewelKS> is there any circumstance under which it makes sense that "host example.com" would return a different result than "dig example.com"?
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• 17[00:04:09] <SerajewelKS> i have a case where host is working, but the same domain lookup with dig returns SERVFAIL
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• 28[00:05:37] <SerajewelKS> oh fun, i have 3 nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf and they all return a different response for the same query -_-
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• 74[00:14:16] <b0s3d> im lost, what was it i should do again? client-pub or client-private should be copied to /home/client2/.ssh/ ? :)
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• 79[00:14:43] <autofsck1> ssh-copy-id
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• 85[00:15:11] <b0s3d> yeah the problem is tho that i have no sshd running on client2 and do not wish to :P
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• 87[00:15:22] <b0s3d> i have physical access tho
• 88[00:15:37] <autofsck1> or paste the athorized_keys you mean?
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• 90[00:15:46] <autofsck1> the public file
• 91[00:15:50] <b0s3d> ok thanks
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• 93[00:16:04] <b0s3d> i am just going to copy both keys, and then use the pub just in case brb
• 94[00:16:45] <jmcnaught> b0s3d: the ssh server you are connecting to should only have your client public key.
• 95[00:16:49] <autofsck1> both?
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• 106[00:18:56] <b0s3d> OOOOOOOO
• 107[00:18:59] <b0s3d> it works m8SSS
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• 109[00:19:21] <b0s3d> pub key from c1 and priv key from c2 :) nice work<
• 110[00:19:34] <b0s3d> i will share my issue.net file for this haha
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• 114[00:21:30] <buddybenj> cafuego: I tried putting the SATA cable in another SATA port on my motherboard, but I still get errors.
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• 121[00:22:35] <b0s3d> enjoy (rare)
• 122[00:22:35] <b0s3d> replaced-url
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• 133[00:31:02] <buddybenj> cafuego: Should I contact my HDD manufacturer for a replacement?
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• 138[00:34:35] <b0s3d> nite guys :)
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• 152[00:40:20] <cafuego> buddybenj: You can try, but I suspect the mobo, considering SMART output doesn't show any issues.
• 153[00:40:48] <buddybenj> Why would my SSD be working fine then?
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• 155[00:41:44] <buddybenj> They are both connected to the same motherboard.
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• 157[00:42:53] <teraflops> fauty v
• 158[00:42:57] <teraflops> cable*
• 159[00:42:59] <teraflops> srry
• 160[00:43:15] <teraflops> faulty^
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• 164[00:46:48] <buddybenj> By the way, for some reason, I am still getting errors, but now it is a different error. It says I have a write fault.
• 165[00:46:50] <buddybenj> 0
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• 169[00:47:18] <buddybenj> I'm going to reboot to see if it happens again.
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• 179[00:50:53] <buddybenj> Same error, even after rebooting.
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• 184[00:52:23] <laubosslink> Hi everybody, I currently have debian 8, and thinkpad t440s with ultradock where i connected 2 screens on display port thanks to this tutorial (replaced-url
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• 206[00:57:02] <Jake1> What should I use to create a bootable usb?
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• 209[00:57:25] <teraflops> Jake1: from where? (OS)
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• 211[00:57:37] <Jake1> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04
• 212[00:57:47] <Jake1> Maybe
• 213[00:57:52] <teraflops> maybe?
• 214[00:57:53] <Jake1> It's Ubuntu haha
• 215[00:57:54] <teraflops> heh
• 216[00:57:59] <teraflops> dd/cp/cat/pv is fine
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• 221[00:58:58] <Jake1> dd/cp/cat/pv?
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• 224[00:59:50] <teraflops> use cp or use dd or use cat(w/wo pv)
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• 226[01:00:06] <jmcnaught> Jake1: are you trying to prepare for a Debian install? The install manual recommends to use a command like "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX" where sdX is the device you're trying to write to
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• 232[01:00:58] <Jake1> I downloaded "debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso, so I'm guessing I just want to use that?
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• 235[01:01:06] <Jake1> With what you said jmcnaught?
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• 239[01:01:19] <teraflops> sure there is a factoid im too bad with the bot
• 240[01:01:27] <jmcnaught> Jake1: you probably want to use an installer image to install, not a live image. You should also check the install manual replaced-url
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• 243[01:01:45] <Jake1> I was looking at that just a minute ago
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• 258[01:09:00] <Jake1> I used cp debian.iso /dev/sdX changing things where necessary and it's not being detected :O
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• 260[01:09:40] <teraflops> Jake1: yoy typed "/dev/sdX" literal?
• 261[01:09:42] <teraflops> you*
• 262[01:09:46] <Jake1> No xD
• 263[01:09:49] <teraflops> heh sorry
• 264[01:09:53] <teraflops> i had to ask
• 265[01:09:56] <jmcnaught> Jake1: what did you change? make sure that you're copying the image to the device, not a partition on the device. so /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1 for example
• 266[01:10:04] <Jake1> O crap
• 267[01:10:16] <Jake1> I put it to a partition
• 268[01:10:20] <Jake1> oops
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• 270[01:11:05] <jmcnaught> Jake1: did you get an installer image? for most people the netinst image is the best option. If you want/need UEFI you cannot use a live image to install
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• 272[01:11:32] <Jake1> I did not, and I did not know about the UEFI thingy, so I'll get one now, I need UEFI
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• 275[01:12:26] <teraflops> Jake1: yeah since I guess the live iso does not have *EFI support
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• 283[01:14:38] <Jake1> Why are the DVD's labeled 1-2 and 3?
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• 285[01:15:07] <jmcnaught> Jake1: do you have a broadband connection? if so, downloading DVDs is a waste of time/bandwidth
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• 287[01:15:21] <Jake1> I do have a broadband connection
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• 292[01:16:29] <jmcnaught> Jake1: use the installer image linked to on replaced-url
• 293[01:17:13] <Jake1> I'd rather just download 1 iso with all the packages on it
• 294[01:17:56] <jmcnaught> Jake1: if you insist on taking the long route
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• 319[01:30:17] <awal1> In the default xmobar config, section 'Appearance' font config comes with « "font = "-misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" » and thats what I use. I guess it's XFree86 related but which family exactly, no idea. Any clue?
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• 335[01:36:11] <tharkun> XScreenSaver 5.30 Is too old complains a freshly installed system. What am I supposed to do xfce vanilla is installed
• 336[01:36:26] <markybob> !tell tharkun about xscreensaver
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• 338[01:36:54] <tharkun> markybob: Thanks
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• 341[01:37:55] <tharkun> markybob: lightdm is not currently installed and I do not know how well it interacts with xfce. Any ideas?
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• 343[01:38:12] <markybob> tharkun: perfectly. that's what i use. lightdm with light-locker
• 344[01:38:30] <markybob> and yes xfce here as well
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• 369[01:48:27] <awal1> dpkg is wrong about xscreensaver being removed in sid, thats not true
• 370[01:48:27] <dpkg> awal1: I give up, what is it?
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• 372[01:48:52] <markybob> awal1: that's not what it meant. the code that causes that to popup has been removed
• 373[01:49:27] <awal1> markybob, ok, ok.
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• 377[01:51:47] <tharkun> markybob: Here is the isue I have several desktop allready running gdm3 and xscreensaver, If I install light-locker will lightdm be automagically installed and the configuration options of gdm3 will be in place? I am not familiar on how gdm3 and lighdm work. I personally use gdm3 and notion
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• 380[01:52:28] <markybob> tharkun: i'm not sure. never used gdm3. only have desktop, xfce.
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• 384[01:54:59] <awal1> tharkun, dpkg will prompt you for choose your default DM, then disable gdm3 via systemctl and enable/configure light-locker (if thats what your question means)
• 385[01:55:04] <Menance_> hey does anyone even Rice on debian?
• 386[01:55:12] <tharkun> markybob: Thanks anyway. Some local unofficial packaging will be needed :(
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• 388[01:55:54] <freeone3000> !freeipa
• 389[01:56:02] <Menance_> what?
• 390[01:56:09] <Menance_> what is !freeipa
• 391[01:56:11] <tharkun> awal1: I'll give it a try on a vm should that be enough or should I use some real hw?
• 392[01:56:11] <Menance_> !freeipa
• 393[01:56:16] <freeone3000> Menance_: I'm looking on how to install a freeipa client and I though there'd be a factoid.
• 394[01:56:20] <Menance_> Oh
• 395[01:56:41] <Menance_> do you guys use a DM or WM?
• 396[01:56:48] <Menance_> I am using XFCE right now
• 397[01:56:49] <awal1> tharkun, I (I think we) still not understand what is your doubt exactly
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• 399[01:57:39] <tharkun> awal1: Will the switch break stuff? Will users be confortable with lightdm how many resources are eaten by it. Totally new ground here.
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• 402[01:58:38] <Menance_> I had LightDM and I liked it
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• 404[01:59:05] <markybob> it's incredibly light. thus the name
• 405[01:59:22] <awal1> tharkun, I have a few DM's installed here and I switch between them some times and no problems at all
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• 410[02:00:19] <tharkun> awal1: You are not my average user. But thanks for the pat on the back I'll poke at this machine tomorrow morning and see what happens. The others will have to wait. Thanks a lot for your time and your understanding.
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• 412[02:00:41] <awal1> several desktop means several machines or several virtual desktops ?
• 413[02:00:42] <Menance_> They should of renamed LightDM to HardDM on April Fools
• 414[02:00:52] <tharkun> awal1: several machines.
• 415[02:00:59] <markybob> oh
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• 417[02:01:08] <markybob> tharkun: then you have nothing to worry about
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• 422[02:02:31] <Menance_> There needs to be a lava lamp simulator in terminal
• 423[02:02:32] <Menance_> would be a great program
• 424[02:02:32] <Menance_> and then you could pipe it with fortune and the lava lamp would tell your fortune
• 425[02:02:32] <Menance_> just a thought
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• 432[02:04:47] <awal1> tharkun, me not an average user? hohoho, I'm a real newbie...
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• 439[02:09:57] <freeone3000> Alright, it looks like the package from unstable is the most recent one that's in-sync with EL7. Thanks.
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• 441[02:10:12] <auwooo> hi close this channel
• 442[02:10:18] <auwooo> come to ##hacker
• 443[02:10:26] <auwooo> i tune to astaraos
• 444[02:10:33] <auwooo> you'r pc
• 445[02:10:37] <auwooo> as a deal
• 446[02:10:44] <markybob> 19:10 < auwooo> i tune to astara
• 447[02:10:49] <auwooo> for free
• 448[02:10:52] <markybob> damn that didn't work out
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• 451[02:11:38] <markybob> auwooo: go away before you get banned
• 452[02:11:41] <auwooo> are you fucking me
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• 538[02:57:54] <ryouma> i keep getting "msmtp: TLS handshake failed: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated." is this a client issue (i.e. a debian issue) or a server issue?
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• 660[03:56:36] <ryouma> jmcnaught: good idea. actually it is not exhibiting the bug, despite having done so all day.
• 661[03:56:49] <ryouma> dunno if --debug did that or not
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• 663[03:58:21] <jmcnaught> ryouma: you can use openssl s_client or gnutls-cli to test a server using SSL or STARTTLS
• 664[03:59:09] <abrotman> swaks is a good tool to test email
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• 681[04:08:07] <buddybenj> Why has my Debian bootup time gotten so much longer?
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• 683[04:08:53] <buddybenj> It used to take like 1-2 seconds and now it gives me tons of messages and spends like 5 seconds between each message.
• 684[04:09:04] <buddybenj> Is there anyway to fix that?
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• 688[04:10:00] <buddybenj> I don't really care about what it has to tell me, so if disabling the messages will save 15 seconds of boot time, I will do it.
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• 715[04:25:34] <awal1> buddybenj, which kind of messages?
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• 720[04:29:25] <buddybenj> it will tell me things like my graphics card requires non-free drivers. It also repeatedly tells me that something which I don't care about failed. I forgot what it is called.
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• 724[04:34:30] <buddybenj> awal1: I forgot to nameflash just in case you keep it minimized.
• 725[04:35:11] <awal1> buddybenj, run, as regular user, "dmesg", dmesg | grep -i failed, systemctl --failed and you should get all those errors in your terminal
• 726[04:35:33] <awal1> nameflash?
• 727[04:36:23] <buddybenj> I don't see it when I grep. Maybe I'll just reboot and tell you what it is.
• 728[04:37:03] <buddybenj> Some programs with flash with a notification when someone mentions your name which is useful if your IRC program is minimized.
• 729[04:37:10] <buddybenj> brb I'll reboot
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• 731[04:37:28] <awal1> systemctl --failed have 0 output?
• 732[04:37:35] <awal1> no need to reboot
• 733[04:37:45] <awal1> check the whole dmesg output
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• 736[04:39:01] <martaroza> How to enable microphone and audio in front of the computer?
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• 740[04:39:47] <buddybenj> awali1: ata2: COMRESET failed
• 741[04:40:14] <awal1> I use hexchat and it displays an "!" in the systemtray icon if some one talk to you in irc, buddybenj
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• 743[04:40:57] <martaroza> anyone?
• 744[04:41:56] <buddybenj> Now that I think about it, I guess nameflash doesn't mean anything on GNOME since it doesn't have a dock. But on desktop environments with a dock, the hexchat icon will flash.
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• 748[04:43:11] <buddybenj> awal1: So is there a way to disable those messages?
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• 750[04:45:08] <martaroza> how enable frontal audio and microphone?
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• 753[04:46:36] <awal1> buddybenj, similar erros surpasses my knowledge, sorry replaced-url
• 754[04:47:26] <LtL> buddybenj: type /set then hit enter in the main window of hexchat, there are about 600 plus settings, one or more should do what you want.
• 755[04:47:57] <buddybenj> LtL: I know, I was just explaining to him what nameflash meant.
• 756[04:48:10] <buddybenj> awal1: All right. Thanks anywar.
• 757[04:48:15] <buddybenj> anyway
• 758[04:48:24] <LtL> buddybenj: oh, sorry my mistake
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• 764[04:52:34] <martaroza> I try alsamixer, but not work
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• 767[04:53:20] <martaroza> Ports: analog-input-front-mic: Front Microphone (priority: 8500, not available)
• 768[04:53:20] <martaroza> analog-input-rear-mic: Rear Microphone (priority: 8200, not available)
• 769[04:53:20] <martaroza> analog-input-linein: Line In (priority: 8100, not available)
• 770[04:53:20] <martaroza> Active Port: analog-input-linein
• 771[04:53:20] <martaroza> Formats:
• 772[04:53:20] <martaroza> pcm
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• 776[04:54:25] <martaroza> rs
• 777[04:55:50] <abrotman> !paste
• 778[04:55:50] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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• 806[05:04:47] <buddybenj> Is there any way to fix write faults on my HDD?
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• 821[05:20:08] <ryouma> buddybenj: yes there is an excelleng guide. let me find it.
• 822[05:20:21] <ryouma> well by yes i mean ... just check it out
• 823[05:20:58] <ryouma> replaced-url
• 824[05:21:03] <ryouma> best guide i found
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• 837[05:37:41] <kingsley> How would you copy an entire bootable USB thumb drive to a (.iso?) file that can be booted?
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• 839[05:38:57] <markybob> kingsley: cp image.iso /dev/sdX (not /dev/sdX1)
• 840[05:39:47] <kingsley> markybob: Yes, but I have /dev/sdX and need image.iso. Would ...
• 841[05:39:57] <markybob> kingsley: oh. sudo dd if=/dev/sdx of=/path/to/new.iso
• 842[05:39:57] <kingsley> cp /dev/sdx image.iso
• 843[05:40:00] <kingsley> work?
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• 850[05:43:53] <kingsley> markybob: I'm trying dd...
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• 881[06:05:26] <kingsley> markybob: I found web pages that also suggested using dd, and I followed your suggestion.
• 882[06:05:55] <kingsley> Unfortunately, when I try to boot from the .iso, qemu complains with ...
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• 886[06:06:53] <kingsley> "Could not read CDROM (code 0005)
• 887[06:06:56] <kingsley> "
• 888[06:06:56] <TheQuestionmark> Added a new SSD to my rig the day before yesterday, now I want to use a 16g partition on this device as swap partition since my OS's SSD is too small. How can I do that?
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• 891[06:07:40] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, good way to deteriorate your ssd is to use swap on it
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• 895[06:09:23] <TheQuestionmark> jml2: So? Well... $HOME is placed on a 2T HDD. Question is then, how can I use a swap-file on this one? I suppose it has to be 16G if I have a system with 8G of RAM.
• 896[06:10:06] <jmcnaught> kingsley: Debian iso images are special hybrids that can be copied to a block device like a flash drive. not all ISO images are like this
• 897[06:10:49] <jmcnaught> is it still true that SSDs wear out quickly if you write to them too much? I thought newer ones were rated for ridiculous amounts of writes per day
• 898[06:12:32] <kingsley> jmcnaught: Hmmm... that's interesting. Maybe MicroSoft's data on the flash drive was not in Debian's iso format.
• 899[06:13:13] <jmcnaught> kingsley: what bootable flash drive is this?
• 900[06:13:31] <kingsley> jmcnaught: Thanks for asking. It
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• 902[06:13:49] <kingsley> It's a Windows 10 install.
• 903[06:13:58] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, you can use gparted live iso, and shrink the ext2/3/4 filesystem to then add a swap partition
• 904[06:14:27] <jmcnaught> kingsley: it's most likely not specially prepared to be a hybrid ISO like the debian images are, but you could maybe ask in ##windows about it
• 905[06:14:33] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, if you don't mind over-abusing an ssd drive then nobody is stopping you from using the ssd...
• 906[06:14:48] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, "depending" on how much it is really used of course
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• 908[06:15:10] <kingsley> jmcnaught: Yes, I agree.
• 909[06:15:20] <TheQuestionmark> Well, I need the swap for hibernation which absolutely doesn't work for me if I wanna keep all my daily used tools open.
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• 911[06:15:44] <TheQuestionmark> Same for suspend.
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• 914[06:17:37] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, you'll also need to update the initrd, there should be something on the wiki ( apt-get install --reinstall initramfs-tools replaced-url
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• 916[06:18:26] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, (this one looks more updated replaced-url
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• 918[06:19:15] <jml2> TheQuestionmark, when you add the swap to /etc/fstab, you should use the UUID (and not /dev/sdN) (you can use blkid to list UUID)
• 919[06:19:47] <jml2> jmcnaught, ssd's get more deteriorated without trim support
• 920[06:20:11] <jml2> jmcnaught, i don't think there's such as trim over swap
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• 927[06:21:47] <TheQuestionmark> I'll keep your words in a textfile to check this after I'm done with work for today.
• 928[06:21:59] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
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• 935[06:25:35] <jmcnaught> jml2: apparently there is, swapon(8) has a --discard option, can also be used in fstab
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• 937[06:26:19] <jmcnaught> most new SSD controllers also have some form of wear leveling feature
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• 1195[07:21:19] <ryouma> i have updated to the backports jessie kernel to fix instability, but now smart is not working on an external drive. i get "Read Device Identity failed: scsi error unsupported field in scsi command".
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• 1198[07:21:31] <ryouma> it worked fine in the jessie kernel
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• 1200[07:22:21] <ryouma> (also, the /dev/disk/by-id designation keeps changing from kernel to kernel for some reason, but that's just a symlink so it seems unrelated. still why does it do that?)
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• 1613[08:19:44] <lancelot_of> hello
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• 1617[08:19:56] <monoxane> hi
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• 1625[08:21:01] <lancelot_of> I have to run a program which need libmpi.so.12 as dependency, but it seems it is not on my debian jessie: cannot open shared object file, any suggestion?
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• 1629[08:21:25] <monoxane> dunno
• 1630[08:21:27] <monoxane> sorry
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• 1633[08:21:42] <somiaj> lancelot_of: you could use apt-file to search for that libary. Does the program say what versio of the libary it needs?
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• 1646[08:24:25] <somiaj> lancelot_of: the versions I'm seenig in jessie don't sem to match the version you are linking. But there are various libmpi.so.foo libaries.
• 1647[08:24:29] <lancelot_of> somiaj, replaced-url
• 1648[08:24:39] <themill> lancelot_of: there are a few things that go by the name 'mpi'; libmpich12 might be what you need
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• 1652[08:25:29] <lancelot_of> themill, so can I create a symbolic link to libmpich12 in the dir where is the executable?
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• 1654[08:25:50] <themill> the current directory is not in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH by default
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• 1657[08:26:47] <themill> but really, you should you back to whomever gave you this thing and ask which mpi implementation it is supposed to use and ask them for the source to build it
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• 1677[08:34:12] <lancelot_of> ok thanks
• 1678[08:34:16] <lancelot_of> have a nice day
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• 1714[08:50:53] <ch`b> The recent samba-libs (4.2) update in jessie pulls in a depedency for the samba server package. Anyone ideas if this is intentional or a bug?
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• 1726[08:54:14] <somiaj> ch`b: I'm looking at the samba-libs package and not seeing the depends relation. Are you sure that is the package at fault?
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• 1730[08:54:57] <somiaj> ch`b: also what is this 4.2 version your talking about, I see 4.1.17 in jessie
• 1731[08:55:02] <somiaj> ,v samba-libs
• 1732[08:55:02] <judd> Package: samba-libs on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 2:4.3.6+dfsg-1; sid: 2:4.3.7+dfsg-1; experimental: 2:4.4.1+dfsg-1
• 1733[08:55:17] <somiaj> oh nevermind, my cache is outdated
• 1734[08:55:29] <msn> samba4 is 4.2 in jessie for sure
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• 1736[08:55:57] <ch`b> exactly, the recent security update: replaced-url
• 1737[08:56:02] <ch`b> depends on "samba"
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• 1742[08:57:52] <themill> ch`b: that dependency should be fixed soon; there are some other issues with the package that are being worked on at the same time
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• 1747[08:59:08] <ch`b> themill: you mean there is no need to report a bug on that?
• 1748[08:59:17] <themill> already done
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• 1752[08:59:53] <ch`b> fine :-)
• 1753[09:00:03] <speial> Is there a way to issue a kill command and wait until it succeeded?
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• 1769[09:03:29] <Stummi> speial, in shell script you can use wait to wait for its own children to stop
• 1770[09:04:15] <speial> Scripts have children? The programs started from the script?
• 1771[09:04:24] <Stummi> if the process you want to wait for is not your own child you are out of luck. You could check if its alive with "kill -0 $pid" regulary, but that error prone depending on how fast PIDs are recycled by the OS
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• 1773[09:04:51] <speial> Stummi: I want to create script that runs vinagre over ssh.
• 1774[09:04:52] <Stummi> speial, yes, if you start something from the script its the scripts child
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• 1778[09:05:33] <speial> Something like "ssh -L ... vinagre 127.0.0.1 ... kill ssh ... wait for ssh to die ..."
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• 1781[09:05:49] <speial> All I have to do is put "wait" at the end?
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• 1783[09:06:25] <Stummi> "kill ssh" will kill all your ssh processes, not only the one you invoked
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• 1785[09:06:57] <Stummi> "ssh ...... & sshPid=$!; kill $sshPid; wait $sshPid"
• 1786[09:07:03] <Stummi> anyway that kinda smells like XY to me
• 1787[09:07:28] <jmcnaught> doesn't vinagre already support SSH?
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• 1789[09:07:39] <Stummi> I don't know what vinagre is
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• 1791[09:07:58] <jmcnaught> it's a VNC client, part of gnome
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• 1794[09:08:14] <speial> jmcnaught: I don't think it supports it.
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• 1799[09:09:57] <jmcnaught> speial: i don't use it because i don't have a use for VNC, but it's installed here on my jessie desktop, and if I go to Remote > Connect, SSH is one of the protocol options
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• 1802[09:10:24] <speial> jmcnaught: let me try...
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• 1804[09:10:34] <Stummi> I don't think it meens "tunnel over ssh" but "use ssh X forwarding"
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• 1806[09:10:43] <Stummi> but I am just guessing here
• 1807[09:10:58] <speial> I never started it via X. Always via the shell...
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• 1810[09:11:56] <speial> Stummi: choosing "ssh" lands me in a shell.
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• 1812[09:12:17] <speial> Looks like vinagre can act like an ssh shell.#
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• 1815[09:12:27] <Stummi> so, its just a ssh client then
• 1816[09:12:29] <speial> But I need vnc via ssh.
• 1817[09:12:42] <jmcnaught> i guess i misundertood, sorry for the noise
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• 1819[09:12:44] <Stummi> (why ever people think dedicated ssh client guis are a good idea)
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• 1826[09:13:40] <`z> "ssh -NL PORT:localhost:PORT your.server.tld", then fire up Vinagre?
• 1827[09:13:51] <speial> z: i do that already.
• 1828[09:14:06] <speial> I want to put it in a script that kills ssh afterwards.
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• 1830[09:14:33] <jmcnaught> oh wait, it does seem to have "use host ____ as a ssh tunnel", if running vinagre locally works for you
• 1831[09:14:36] <speial> Stummi: So the whole command would be like this? ssh ...... & sshPid=$!; vinagre; kill $sshPid; wait $sshPid
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• 1833[09:15:15] <Stummi> looks fine to me
• 1834[09:15:36] <speial> jmcnaught: oh.. yes it has that... not quite sure how to use it.
• 1835[09:16:01] <Stummi> its possible that the ssh tunnel is not ready in the moment vinagre is invoked.
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• 1840[09:16:14] <Stummi> you have to see if it can work with this
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• 1850[09:19:40] <speial> Stummi: Yeah, seems not to be available. Add a sleep command?
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• 1859[09:20:19] <speial> Strange, that does not work either.
• 1860[09:20:22] <Stummi> speial, its not nice but it should work
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• 1864[09:21:29] <speial> The ssh command seems to hang because it asks for a password but i never see the prompt.
• 1865[09:21:54] <speial> I even have to kill it with -9 to get rid of it.
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• 1871[09:23:10] <Stummi> speial, you probably want ssh -N -f - though I am not sure how to kill that when you are done, I would look for a ssh config option for that
• 1872[09:23:31] <speial> Stummi: I do that. That's not the problem.
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• 1874[09:23:47] <speial> The problem is this: & pid=$!
• 1875[09:23:54] <speial> When I add that, I don't see the password prompt.
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• 1877[09:24:03] <Stummi> speial, -f will fork into background itself, you won't have the correct pid after that
• 1878[09:24:14] <Stummi> speial, use ssh keys
• 1879[09:24:26] <han-solo> wouldn't the commadn require &&?
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• 1881[09:24:40] <han-solo> just & won't put it into background? :/
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• 1886[09:26:58] <Stummi> han-solo, huh?
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• 1888[09:27:16] <Stummi> & puts a command in a background, && is a boolean operator in bash. Two completely different things
• 1889[09:27:19] <Stummi> s/bash/sh
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• 1894[09:27:57] <speial> Why is the password prompt hidden when it goes into background?
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• 1896[09:28:05] <han-solo> yeah, i though you wanted the ssh command and to have a variable with pid set
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• 1898[09:28:34] <speial> han-solo: That's what I want.
• 1899[09:28:55] <speial> But the ssh has to run in the background. It is used by the following commands.
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• 1901[09:29:02] <speial> Anyone with an idea how to solve it?
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• 1903[09:29:35] <han-solo> yeah, sorry
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• 1905[09:29:56] <Stummi> speial, yes don't use passwords, but ssh-keys
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• 1907[09:30:08] <speial> I knew somebody would say that.
• 1908[09:30:16] <Stummi> so, why did you ask?
• 1909[09:30:22] <speial> I did not ask that.
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• 1912[09:31:03] <Stummi> speial, & puts your command into background, meaning it disconnects from your tty. So you can't set the password
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• 1916[09:31:27] <speial> Oh, ssh's -f parameter might be the solution.
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• 1920[09:32:31] <speial> Hmm.. does not work.
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• 1924[09:33:20] <speial> pretty strange.
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• 1928[09:34:26] <speial> I fire this: "ssh -f ...;pid=$1;sleep 2; vinagre 127.0.0.1:1; kill $pid; wait $pid"
• 1929[09:34:43] <speial> Everything works, but then I get: bash: kill: (4197) - No such process
• 1930[09:34:54] <speial> But 4197 is not the pid of ssh.
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• 1933[09:35:16] <speial> Why does it get a wrong pid?
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• 1935[09:35:36] <speial> (I fire this: "ssh -f ...;pid=$!;sleep 2; vinagre 127.0.0.1:1; kill $pid; wait $pid")
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• 1937[09:36:06] <speial> Does ssh's -f fuck up the pid?
• 1938[09:36:13] <jelly> ssh client likely forks and execs when -f is used
• 1939[09:36:17] <speial> jelly: yup
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• 1941[09:36:42] <jelly> much like a daemon
• 1942[09:36:52] <speial> Is there a way to get the pid?
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• 1957[09:39:54] <speial> "pidof ssh" returns the correct id. But is that pure luck that it gets the right one?
• 1958[09:39:59] <jelly> speial: google suggests using a control socket to control that particular ssh client instead of guessing pid.
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• 1960[09:40:11] <jelly> eg. last answer here # replaced-url
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• 1963[09:40:44] <jelly> replaced-url
• 1964[09:40:50] <junkatown> does installing init system makes my system unsupported since its not the default?
• 1965[09:41:00] <jelly> junkatown: no
• 1966[09:41:25] <jelly> junkatown: if you installed something from official debian repos for the release you installed, it's supported
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• 1969[09:41:58] <speial> jelly: Interesting. Does that still mean one ssh command to start the tunnel or is it two now?
• 1970[09:42:17] <junkatown> jelly: are service profiles shipped for all init systems?
• 1971[09:42:28] <jelly> junkatown: if you installed it from someplace else, like a third party repo or different distro, or a newer debian release, then you enter unsupported theory
• 1972[09:42:54] <jelly> s/theory/land/
• 1973[09:43:04] <jelly> junkatown: definitely not.
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• 1976[09:43:12] <junkatown> i havent installed it yet, i wanna know whats ahead
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• 1980[09:44:09] <jelly> junkatown: eg. most don't ship stuff for upstart or lesser known init replacements, and have to rely on sysvinit compat if there's any
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• 1984[09:44:20] <speial> jelly: The suggested "ssh -S /tmp/test -o exit" gives me "command-line: line 0: Bad configuration option: exit"
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• 1988[09:44:45] <speial> I guess I will go with the pidof solution and hope for the best.
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• 1991[09:45:14] <jelly> speial: you probably want to RTFM what an option does before blindly trying stuff from the internet?
• 1992[09:45:20] <junkatown> jelly: how can i check that
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• 1994[09:46:09] <jelly> junkatown: you'd have to look at the contents of packages providing each service you care about
• 1995[09:46:44] <speial> It seem ssh's -f creates a process that is not child of the script. So you cannot wait for it. Damn.
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• 2000[09:47:48] <speial> How can you wait as long as a certain pid is still active?
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• 2004[09:48:41] <junkatown> jelly: thanks, so service.upstart is for upstart, service.init is for sysvinit?
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• 2007[09:49:04] <speial> I'm not good with bash, but it should be something like this: while kill -0 $pid > /dev/null 2>&1; do; done;
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• 2012[09:49:37] <speial> Anybody familiar with bash who knows the correct syntax?
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• 2015[09:50:24] <jelly> junkatown: that doesn't look right. If you care about a particular init system you should probably figure out where its config goes. For sysvinit that's /etc/init.d/
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• 2024[09:51:38] <junkatown> so much pain in the world of init systems :P
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• 2035[09:55:19] <speial> I kind of finished my vnc over ssh oneliner. the beast looks like this now: ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f $host; vinagre 127.0.0.1:1; pid=`pidof ssh`; kill $pid; while kill -0 $pid > /dev/null 2>&1; do sleep 1; done;
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• 2037[09:55:44] <jelly> junkatown: knowing how a non-default component works is not an unreasonable requirement if you, well, want to use it
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• 2040[09:56:26] <jelly> speial: just be sure to only ever have one ssh client running on that machine!
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• 2044[09:56:55] <speial> jelly: there are multiple running. but so far, it always killed the right one :)
• 2045[09:57:01] <matu> Hi.
• 2046[09:57:04] <jelly> /o\
• 2047[09:57:19] <matu> Are you using vmplayer ? I can not uninstall it anymore. It looks like a bug :
• 2048[09:57:21] <matu> replaced-url
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• 2050[09:58:10] <matu> It says that vmware player is not an installed product when i try to remove it by using vmware-installer but it says it is installed when i try to install vmware workstation...
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• 2053[09:58:22] <jelly> speial: pgrep can give you a finer selection of processes than pidof, and with -x or -f options to give it part or the whole command line instead of just the process name
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• 2056[09:58:59] <speial> jelly: yes, thats a good idea!
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• 2058[09:59:11] <jelly> speial: and it has a sister command pkill
• 2059[09:59:18] <speial> jelly: awesome!
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• 2098[10:14:02] <MurciLee> does anyone know how's it going about changing name from icedove to thunderbird like firefox?
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• 2103[10:15:41] <bdog7> MurciLee, what are you talking about?
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• 2106[10:17:21] <MurciLee> bdog7: like iceweasel change it's name to firefox, I heard icedove also will change it's name to thunderbird
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• 2108[10:17:30] <MurciLee> i was wondering when is it going to be
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• 2114[10:18:34] <bdog7> Debian Jessie has icedove and iceweasel...... yes which are rebranded firefox and thunderbird, are you saying it's changed in testing?
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• 2117[10:19:08] <MurciLee> i'm on debian sid and yes for firefox but not thunderbird yet
• 2118[10:19:35] <bdog7> I see, you might try #debian-next
• 2119[10:19:43] <avb> looks like mozilla allowed debian to use original branding in their packages
• 2120[10:19:43] <MurciLee> oh
• 2121[10:19:48] <MurciLee> thank you
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• 2123[10:20:10] <bdog7> seems they set invite only currently though
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• 2125[10:20:18] <MurciLee> yeah...
• 2126[10:20:24] <jmcnaught> #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net
• 2127[10:20:26] <MurciLee> it says i need to be invited
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• 2130[10:20:43] <bdog7> try later
• 2131[10:20:59] <MurciLee> is there some tracking sites for that? the rebranding about icedove
• 2132[10:21:00] <bdog7> oh
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• 2134[10:21:42] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
• 2135[10:21:43] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 2137[10:22:49] <MurciLee> thank you
• 2138[10:22:57] <MurciLee> replaced-url
• 2139[10:22:58] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 2140[10:23:03] <MurciLee> for just if someone needs
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• 2143[10:23:45] <cynicallemon> renaming mozilla products wont matter the way moz is going at the minute
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• 2145[10:24:38] <mavhq> replaced-url
• 2146[10:24:45] <ToeSnacks> Is there an alternative mail client as feature rich as Thunderbird?
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• 2149[10:25:16] <jmcnaught> evolution and kmail are two
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• 2151[10:25:33] <ToeSnacks> oh right I forgot about evolution
• 2152[10:25:34] <ToeSnacks> thanks
• 2153[10:25:48] <MurciLee> ToeSnacks: i'm trying to stick with geary for mail and pidgin for irc
• 2154[10:26:14] <cynicallemon> ToeSnacks, also claws
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• 2160[10:28:14] <ToeSnacks> Are there any good break downs of the major differenced between Ubuntu and Debian? I mean more core elements not fluff like Unity vs Gnome and the like.
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• 2162[10:29:40] <ToeSnacks> I use ubuntu server for everything because it's what I used first but everything it is seems to just be a downstream copy of debian and I want to know and sticking points if I start trying to transition
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• 2164[10:29:56] <ToeSnacks> *any
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• 2166[10:30:08] <futex_> Anyone have try to install cuda on jessie? How you have do it?
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• 2169[10:30:34] <ToeSnacks> and I apologize if that is a common and infuriating question
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• 2171[10:33:02] <jmcnaught> ToeSnacks: Not really comparisons, but there are replaced-url
• 2172[10:33:08] <jmcnaught> ian unstable) whereas the quality in ...
• 2173[10:33:10] <jmcnaught> ... Debian is more consistent in all packages.
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• 2180[10:35:53] <ToeSnacks> sid is almost a rolling release right?
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• 2182[10:36:01] <cynicallemon> it is
• 2183[10:36:26] <ToeSnacks> would it be considered more or less stable than arch?
• 2184[10:37:12] <cynicallemon> generally more because arch are quicker to release
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• 2188[10:38:14] <ToeSnacks> what about general usage stuff? I head that in debian you generally elevate to root to do things as opposed to sudo with ubuntu
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• 2190[10:38:40] <cynicallemon> well the old su verses sudo debate
• 2191[10:38:56] <ToeSnacks> I am not versed on that debate at all
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• 2193[10:39:13] <ToeSnacks> I have always used sudo because that's how I started
• 2194[10:39:25] <cynicallemon> either is fine
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• 2197[10:39:36] <ToeSnacks> are there arguments againts?
• 2198[10:39:42] <jmcnaught> sudo is available in Debian, and is turned on by default if you do not set a root password during the install
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• 2204[10:40:41] <cynicallemon> i tend to use su
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• 2209[10:41:15] <ToeSnacks> thank you for humoring my questions I'm sure the comparison got old a long time ago
• 2210[10:41:18] <cynicallemon> mainly as i hate to sudo this and sudo that etc
• 2211[10:41:37] <ToeSnacks> ok so there is no best practices reason it's a preference thing?
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• 2214[10:42:13] <cynicallemon> pretty much i guess
• 2215[10:42:21] <hmpf> Hi everybody.
• 2216[10:42:29] <cynicallemon> you can do damage with sudo and su
• 2217[10:42:52] <hmpf> Is it safe to put "developer ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/dpkg" in the sudoers file?
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• 2219[10:43:17] <hmpf> my goal is to enable package installation for a non root user. and thats the best way i came up with so far.
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• 2223[10:44:47] <MurciLee> jmcnaught: thanks for good tips about remaining root password during the install makes sudo turns on. didn't know that
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• 2225[10:45:14] <jmcnaught> MurciLee: this is only an option during the advanced install
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• 2227[10:45:51] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, yeah thats a new one to me about sudo during install but then agian i always use a password for accounts
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• 2233[10:47:24] <Kiril> hello
• 2234[10:47:37] <Kiril> cat /e-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system
• 2235[10:47:49] <Kiril> any ideas how to fix this
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• 2237[10:48:38] <MurciLee> jmcnaught: which do you prefer personally(between su and sudo)? my debian(gnome) actually shows me some software like firefox update failed becatuse of permission. is this anything to do with sudo / su thing?
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• 2247[10:51:08] <Filystyn> HELLO
• 2248[10:51:09] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, with FF updates it needs a way to escalate the users account to install update hence sudo is needed
• 2249[10:51:14] <Filystyn> people of debian - PROBLEM
• 2250[10:51:22] <Filystyn> why did you remove ffmpeg from packages?
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• 2252[10:51:47] <Filystyn> ANYONE?!
• 2253[10:51:48] <jmcnaught> hmpf: this might be something you can configure with packagekit and policykit. note that being able to install arbitrary packages is inherently unsafe
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• 2255[10:52:09] <Filystyn> it's safe
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• 2260[10:53:11] <cynicallemon> hmpf, also allowing users to use dpkg will let them install and delete other packages
• 2261[10:53:16] <dagerik> how can I use journald to inspect dpkg log? I need to inspect an unattended upgrade
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• 2263[10:53:25] <Mathisen> Filystyn, its in > replaced-url
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• 2265[10:53:47] <jmcnaught> MurciLee: firefox update? how did you install firefox? i tend to use both su and sudo on different systems. sudo can give you more finegrained control. su has an builtin advantage of sorts in that it's a different password
• 2266[10:53:53] <Filystyn> Mathisen thanks adding it now
• 2267[10:53:59] <MurciLee> cynicallemon: do you mean my account needs to be sudo-able?
• 2268[10:54:04] <strk> is there permission bit that would derive umask from parent dir ? like seg-gid derives group ownership ?
• 2269[10:54:06] <Filystyn> why not have all in one rep?
• 2270[10:54:10] <Mathisen> Filystyn, using jessie ?
• 2271[10:54:13] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, yes
• 2272[10:54:30] <jmcnaught> ffmpeg is in jessie-backports, deb-multimedia.org is third party and known to cause problems
• 2273[10:54:31] <mavhq> surely what you want is local per user package installs
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• 2275[10:54:38] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, install sudo and add the user to the sudo group
• 2276[10:54:56] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, usermod -aG sudo <user>
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• 2278[10:55:15] <Filystyn> Mathisen yes
• 2279[10:55:23] <jmcnaught> "adduser user sudo" works too
• 2280[10:55:23] <MurciLee> jmcnaught: I added ubuntuzilla's repository for firefox-mozilla-build and I install it by 'apt-get install firefox-mozilla-build' as I remember
• 2281[10:55:47] <jmcnaught> MurciLee: that's definitely the wrong way
• 2282[10:55:48] <cynicallemon> MurciLee, log out and back in again and that user will have sudo
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• 2284[10:56:13] <Mathisen> yeah add the repo then.. :)
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• 2286[10:57:18] <Filystyn> updating..
• 2287[10:57:39] <Filystyn> installing latex so i got FAJRANT for stuff like this
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• 2289[10:58:09] <jmcnaught> Mathisen: we try not to recommend third party repos like deb-multimedia here because it's not supported by Debian.
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• 2291[10:58:20] <MurciLee> jmcnaught: yeah i know this is not a good way but that was about 2,3 month ago. there wasn't actual 'firefox' on debian sid
• 2292[10:58:28] <Filystyn> because debian supports so low ammount of programs it is patehtic
• 2293[10:58:32] <jelly> there's ffmpeg in jessie-backports
• 2294[10:58:38] <Filystyn> I do not buy this "stable" bs
• 2295[10:58:40] <jmcnaught> MurciLee: Iceweasel was/is Firefox, it's just rebranded
• 2296[10:59:00] <Mathisen> jmcnaught, noted..
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• 2298[10:59:24] <Filystyn> i will add as much repos i can and than come here complain if anything break
• 2299[10:59:41] <MurciLee> anyway, what's wrong about installing firefox on 3rd party repository between permission problem while updating?
• 2300[10:59:54] <Filystyn> MuricLee they want to control everything
• 2301[11:00:06] <Filystyn> but at this point iceweasel is ok
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• 2303[11:00:15] <Filystyn> no sens to install firefox
• 2304[11:00:31] <Filystyn> and there is this icecat coming since gnu
• 2305[11:00:45] <cynicallemon> I just get firefox and thunderbird directly from mozilla and install
• 2306[11:00:45] <jelly> MurciLee: we can't predict the behaviour and dependencies for foreign sources
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• 2309[11:01:29] <jelly> MurciLee: and they don't have to comply with best packaging practices which solve a number of common errors
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• 2311[11:02:27] <Filystyn> The repository team is lazy. Most running versions are ancient. Not that it's so bad.
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• 2315[11:04:38] <cynicallemon> transmission is lagging behind on 2.84
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• 2324[11:06:57] <HaRoCafe> need sugestion for learning apache on debian jessie. link please
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• 2328[11:07:23] <cynicallemon> google install apache on debian
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• 2333[11:08:28] <HaRoCafe> already done it. google said diferend on jessie
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• 2337[11:09:16] <jmcnaught> HaRoCafe: the Debian specific stuff is documented in /usr/share/doc/apache2 especially the README.Debian.gz file
• 2338[11:09:19] <theunixfreak> hi i am running debian testing. when i do "apt-get install bluefish" i get "no installation candidate error" do you know what is happening? thanks :)
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• 2341[11:10:17] <cynicallemon> HaRoCafe, try this - replaced-url
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• 2343[11:10:34] <HaRoCafe> sorry i am not the man who read manual. painfull on my brain who does not have much english library
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• 2345[11:10:38] <cynicallemon> depends what you want to use it for though
• 2346[11:10:49] <Filystyn> why not write your own http server :O
• 2347[11:10:49] <HaRoCafe> cynicallemon: thks will try it
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• 2352[11:11:31] <HaRoCafe> just learning to host something
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• 2354[11:11:58] <jmcnaught> theunixfreak: what does "apt-cache policy bluefish" say? can you make a paste of the command you used and the complete output?
• 2355[11:12:18] <theunixfreak> yes
• 2356[11:12:32] <theunixfreak> jmcnaught, this is the output: bluefish:
• 2357[11:12:32] <hmpf> cynicallemon: jmcnaught: thanks, i will look into that.
• 2358[11:12:32] <theunixfreak> Installed: (none)
• 2359[11:12:32] <theunixfreak> Candidate: (none)
• 2360[11:12:32] <theunixfreak> Version table:
• 2361[11:12:33] <Filystyn> btw if you join #apache
• 2362[11:12:45] <cynicallemon> i thought bluefish was a gonner
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• 2364[11:12:50] <Filystyn> there are 300 people maybe there you will get your help
• 2365[11:12:57] <jmcnaught> theunixfreak: please use replaced-url
• 2366[11:13:00] <theunixfreak> cynicallemon, i thought it was under active development :(
• 2367[11:13:07] <theunixfreak> jmcnaught, sorry :( i will do it from now on
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• 2369[11:13:22] <jmcnaught> !show sources.list theunixfreak
• 2370[11:13:23] <dpkg> theunixfreak: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
• 2371[11:13:34] <jmcnaught> ,v bluefish
• 2372[11:13:35] <judd> Package: bluefish on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.1-1; wheezy: 2.2.3-4; wheezy-backports: 2.2.6-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.6-2; jessie-backports: 2.2.7-2~bpo8+1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.2.7-2~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 2.2.7-2~bpo70+1; sid: 2.2.7-2
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• 2376[11:14:45] <jmcnaught> theunixfreak: oh i see, you're on testing. you can check the package tracker site for news about why it may have been removed from testing. also for testing you'll get better support on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
• 2377[11:14:59] <theunixfreak> jmcnaught, my sources.list is replaced-url
• 2378[11:15:08] <theunixfreak> jmcnaught, thanks
• 2379[11:15:08] <HaRoCafe> by for now thks
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• 2396[11:20:43] <jim> what's the guide to bash scripting that's pretty good, I think greycat wrote it
• 2397[11:21:14] <Stummi> !guide
• 2398[11:21:14] <dpkg> somebody said guide was at replaced-url
• 2399[11:21:24] <Stummi> oups, thats wrong chan
• 2400[11:21:38] <Stummi> jim: replaced-url
• 2401[11:21:51] <Stummi> (alternatively: /msg greybot guide)
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• 2407[11:23:09] <Clu3l355> hi all :)
• 2408[11:23:36] <Clu3l355> I have this situation:I setup remote mysql from one container to allow remote connections coming from hostname "host.name", but the ip addresses changed for both the mysql container host and the "host.name" and I've updboth their dns settings to resolve the updated addresses accordingly, but now my issue is that mysql user table still lists the sam
• 2409[11:23:36] <Clu3l355> e "host.name" for each user but wont connect remotely. Does mysql store the ip address for the hostname at that point in time when you add the user? or would i just have to rerun the query and update the remote host? I hope this makes sense
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• 2411[11:24:02] <Clu3l355> also one needs to be registered to post to #mysql, im on the run and thats a bit tedious at the moment, thanks in advance guys
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• 2419[11:27:16] <unborn> Clu3l355: perhaps you would use IP as hostname instead of name it self?
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• 2422[11:28:30] <Clu3l355> unborn: i was hoping it would automatically resolve the hostname irrespective but i guess ill have to update and use ips instead, thanks
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• 2426[11:30:06] <unborn> Clu3l355: well does those hosts have static ips? if not then ip is possible best way to do it.. perhaps you can setup some bash script which will monitor the current ip of that host and if changed it will change records of that ip in your mysql or config file
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• 2435[11:31:23] <jmcnaught> Clu3l355: if you connect to the server what does "SHOW GRANTS;" say? probably a hostname
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• 2443[11:32:01] <jmcnaught> Clu3l355: also registering with NickServ is really easy, and you'll probably get better help in the mysql channel
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• 2555[11:38:17] <Clu3l355> thanks guys, ill register my nick shortly and check in w/ mysql, but to answer unborn
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• 2557[11:38:26] <Clu3l355> thanks guys, ill register my nick shortly and check in w/ mysql, but to answer unborn - they're both on static
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• 2561[11:38:49] <Clu3l355> we're just in the process of migrating to a new subnet :) so now im sitting with these type issues
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• 2565[11:38:53] <Clu3l355> ill check the show grants shortly
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• 2569[11:39:14] <jmcnaught> Clu3l355: also what kind of containers are they?
• 2570[11:39:23] <Clu3l355> lxc
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• 2586[11:43:26] <Clu3l355> for what its worth guys
• 2587[11:43:28] <Clu3l355> update mysql.user SET host = 'new.host.ip.here' WHERE host = 'host.name' AND User != 'root';
• 2588[11:43:33] <Clu3l355> update mysql.db SET host = 'new.host.ip.here' WHERE host = 'host.name' AND User != 'root';
• 2589[11:43:39] <Clu3l355> those 2 on the mysql host container did the trick
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• 2594[11:44:03] <unborn> Clu3l355: ah if they are static use ips as temporary solution.. when dns is propagated lets say in 48 hours, you can go back to your host.names setup..
• 2595[11:44:05] <Clu3l355> ill try and run those commands to reset it to hostname and test again, otherwise ill just stick to IPs :/
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• 2597[11:44:56] <Clu3l355> unborn: I shouldve thought of that earlier, but thanks for your help :)
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• 2605[11:48:05] <unborn> Clu3l355: it all depends from your bind setup.. or dns setup.. but if your ip was changed, you should allow at least couple of hours to go around all root server on net.. basically if you host your remote dbs on something.somedomain.com but ip was changed then that could take some time.. ip is good tmp solution, just accessing directly..
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• 2612[11:49:01] <Clu3l355> unborn: soon as you mentioned propagation i figured thats the case and completely overlooked that fact, so thanks again person ( whichever gender you are :) )
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• 2625[11:52:10] <Filystyn> if packets can not be verified what doe sit mean (apt-get dist-upgrade) ???
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• 2627[11:52:16] <Filystyn> ANYONE!?
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• 2633[11:54:45] <Filystyn> QUESTION was asssskkkeddd
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• 2635[11:54:50] <Filystyn> hurry!
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• 2640[11:55:35] <Iridos> else you'll cut our salary
• 2641[11:55:51] <Filystyn> Hey I am waiting here
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• 2643[11:56:09] <Stummi> Filystyn, which context?
• 2644[11:56:15] <Stummi> I don't know about "sit"
• 2645[11:56:15] <markybob> Filystyn: you've been told about your screaming and repeating more times than i can count. you wonder why you annoy people?
• 2646[11:56:20] <Filystyn> context of packet installation
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• 2649[11:56:45] <Filystyn> i wrote apt-get dist-upgrade
• 2650[11:57:01] <Filystyn> all the multi arch part of i386
• 2651[11:57:01] <Clu3l355> Filystyn: I'll take a guess and say -> apt-key for whatever repo its complaining about
• 2652[11:57:11] <Filystyn> is that bad?
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• 2655[11:57:19] <Stummi> Filystyn, it means packages cannot be verified
• 2656[11:57:27] <Filystyn> is that normal ?
• 2657[11:57:38] <Stummi> no, its not normal, and yes it can be bad. Its a possible attack vector
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• 2659[11:57:58] <Filystyn> okie
• 2660[11:58:00] <Stummi> just make sure the apt keys are up to date as Clu said
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• 2662[11:58:11] <Filystyn> not sure how to do it?
• 2663[11:58:16] <Filystyn> ah apt-key
• 2664[11:58:23] <Filystyn> mkie
• 2665[11:58:31] <inigo> and check if the output of "date" in the machine makes sense
• 2666[11:58:32] <Filystyn> apt-key replaced-url
• 2667[11:58:34] <Filystyn> yes?
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• 2669[11:58:36] <unborn> Clu3l355: if you host your domains with your own bind you can make propagation to work a bit faster, but this is purely optional if you fine to wait.. usually its from 10 minutes to 24 hours..im just saying :)
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• 2671[11:59:32] <Clu3l355> unborn: was thinking of going that route but have a few other thing to attend to in the interim, thanks for the suggestion though :)
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• 2678[12:02:07] <Filystyn> how do i check this packet again ? libaacplus2:i386 ? ? ? ?? ?
• 2679[12:02:16] <Filystyn> it complains about packet not repo
• 2680[12:02:17] <Filystyn> !
• 2681[12:02:21] <Filystyn> !!!
• 2682[12:02:21] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
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• 2684[12:02:47] <monoxane> exclamation marks!
• 2685[12:02:56] <Filystyn> ANYONE?!
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• 2689[12:03:07] <markybob> yep. time to /ignore again. he can't learn
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• 2691[12:03:15] <monoxane> lol
• 2692[12:03:19] <dhex> chele! We were talking about you.
• 2693[12:03:27] <Clu3l355> Filystyn: Patience is key when one is dealing with Linux
• 2694[12:03:36] <chele> dhex what happened?
• 2695[12:03:43] <dhex> A lot of stuff, you know...
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• 2704[12:09:12] <inigo> so the issue with the "keys" was finally about Patience? ( Patience is key when one is ... )
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• 2706[12:09:54] <inigo> apt-key add Patience.key
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• 2768[12:37:00] <_abc_> Hello. I am on wheezy (oldstable) with kernel 3.2 updated to latest and I don't have CH353 PCI multi io card support. It works but but not all of it. I have no way to issue BREAK on the interface. Does anyone know if I can upgrade to an official wheezy kernel >3.7 somehow? Those kernels apparently support CH353
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• 2770[12:37:40] <ksk> _abc_: migrating to jessie is not an option?
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• 2783[12:41:05] <_abc_> No. systemd is not an option at this time.
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• 2785[12:41:16] <ksk> you can uses sysv-init running jessie
• 2786[12:41:22] <ksk> s/uses/use
• 2787[12:41:24] <inigo> I do
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• 2789[12:41:54] <_abc_> I would like to get on with what I am doing, I will upgrade real soon now [tm]. What I am doing is operating a device programmer attached to a serial port... that does not work on this system due to lacking CH353 support.
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• 2792[12:41:56] <ksk> I dont even thins you get "migrated to systemd" during an dist-upgrade (but I am unsure)
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• 2795[12:42:40] <ksk> _abc_: then get yourself a kernel with that support, compile it yourself? If thats "too much" for you I suggest you go to jessie..
• 2796[12:42:56] <_abc_> As long as it works I have no problem with it but I have to have init scripts of the old kind for some things.
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• 2798[12:43:13] <_abc_> ksk: I can do that, how hard is the config transition from 3.2 to 3.7?
• 2799[12:43:16] <ksk> _abc_: you can have systemd and also use init scripts. cmon...
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• 2801[12:43:30] <ksk> I dont know, im not into kernel.
• 2802[12:43:41] <_abc_> I do not have the time and stamina to do this now. Tried, live dist, had problems, backed out.
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• 2804[12:44:11] <markybob> _abc_: wheezy-backports has 3.16 kernel
• 2805[12:44:12] <_abc_> Also usually people frown on non-debian kernel installs on debian. I will look at what's in debian for 3.7
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• 2808[12:44:18] <_abc_> markybob: oh great.
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• 2810[12:44:23] * _abc_ looks
• 2811[12:44:27] <markybob> !tell _abc_ about backports
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• 2816[12:46:34] <_abc_> Is there a nice backport howto?
• 2817[12:46:43] <markybob> backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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• 2831[12:50:39] <yottanami> How can I connect to a network printer in Debian?
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• 2833[12:51:10] <_abc_> markybob: Do I also need the headers? I assume I will compile something or other sooner or later
• 2834[12:51:21] <markybob> _abc_: then yes
• 2835[12:51:37] <_abc_> yottanami: replaced-url
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• 2838[12:52:38] <yottanami> I checked in CUPS web ui
• 2839[12:52:49] <yottanami> It asked me to add printer in /etc/dhcpd.conf but file does not exists
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• 2841[12:52:56] <yottanami> I am using Debian Sid
• 2842[12:52:59] <markybob> yottanami: if you want gui method use system-config-printer
• 2843[12:53:13] <markybob> yottanami: well then you're in the wrong place. go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic
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• 2847[12:54:32] <_abc_> markybob: do you run anything like that? I can't figure out if the new kernel breaks anything important. When I try to install it in aptitude it lights up an xmas tree of breakage and incompats. I am afraid I won't be able to back out of it afterwards if it does not go well.
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• 2850[12:55:23] <MarcL> Hi, seems that iceweasel is not updating anymore, this is the message I get in the terminal: "W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
• 2851[12:55:31] <markybob> _abc_: i've used backported kernels in jessie before, not wheezy. do you have a funky sources.list? pastebin it
• 2852[12:55:54] <markybob> MarcL: it's firefox now
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• 2854[12:56:02] <markybob> MarcL: check mozilla.debian.net for the update
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• 2858[12:56:52] <_abc_> markybob: No, I just added my local country's mirror and am installing the 3.16 kernel source instead with deps. Installing the image lights up breakage related to initrd tools. I am not using an initrd at all but I feel safer compiling from source.
• 2859[12:56:56] <MarcL> markybob, so I should uninstall iceweasel and install firefox?
• 2860[12:57:08] <markybob> MarcL: yep
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• 2863[12:57:36] <_abc_> So I am not getting the image, compiling from source instead. No problem.
• 2864[12:57:42] <MarcL> markybob, thanks
• 2865[12:57:56] <_abc_> markybob: thanks for the tip
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• 2869[12:58:58] <markybob> _abc_: make sure you do it the debian way. look at 4.2 and 4.5 in particular replaced-url
• 2870[12:59:17] <_abc_> Thanks, looking
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• 2873[13:00:54] <_abc_> What does fakeroot do exactly?
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• 2876[13:01:34] <markybob> _abc_: it runs a command in an environment faking root privileges for file manipulation (while remaining safe)
• 2877[13:01:51] <_abc_> Bah. I trust the upstream.
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• 2880[13:03:31] <plasmoduck> # mount /dev/sdb /media/storage/
• 2881[13:03:32] <plasmoduck> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
• 2882[13:03:41] <plasmoduck> Why is this happening?
• 2883[13:03:44] <cisc0> hi
• 2884[13:03:48] <markybob> plasmoduck: you left out the partition number
• 2885[13:03:58] <markybob> plasmoduck: i assume you want /dev/sdb1
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• 2891[13:04:58] <plasmoduck> markybob, oh yes I did, thanks for pointing that out :)
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• 2914[13:11:54] <r00trunner> I'm coming from Archlinux which has a superb wiki. Is any official wiki for debian you can recommend?
• 2915[13:12:57] <markybob> r00trunner: the official one is replaced-url
• 2916[13:13:38] <MisterGadfly> It indeed was better
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• 2921[13:14:21] <JyZyXEL> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
• 2922[13:14:21] <dpkg> jyzyxel: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
• 2923[13:14:22] <JyZyXEL> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0', which is also in package samba 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u1
• 2924[13:14:24] <JyZyXEL> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
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• 2931[13:14:57] <JyZyXEL> ha, did they put a broken package to stable :p
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• 2934[13:15:26] <alligatorjoe> hey has anybody seen crocodile lilly
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• 2937[13:15:58] <JyZyXEL> i wonder if it is because of the whole "badlock" vulnerability
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• 2942[13:18:02] <Dipper> HI!
• 2943[13:18:16] <Dipper> "
• 2944[13:18:16] <Dipper> With this ‘completely’ random seed from my old debian." What does it mean/
• 2945[13:18:42] <r00trunner> markybob: yes I know that wiki. Arch's wiki is lightyears better however.... :(
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• 2948[13:19:08] <markybob> r00trunner: i agree. i link to it often.
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• 2950[13:20:58] <alligatorjoe> where are the coonass girls?..has anybody seen crocodile lilly
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• 2954[13:24:34] <markybob> alligatorjoe: ethnic slurs won't be tolerated.
• 2955[13:24:39] <alligatorjoe> does everybody think the new $8,999 video card from nvidia using its pascal gpu technology is going to have adequate drivers for debian to save a couple of dollars on software.
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• 2961[13:26:12] <alligatorjoe> mark..you are probably one of those hardware sons of bitches that owe me a lot of money
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• 2973[13:31:03] <MarcL> markybob, to unistall purge iceweasel is ok to write in the terminal: sudo apt-get purge iceweasel ?
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• 2977[13:31:40] <markybob> MarcL: just do apt-get remove iceweasel. you might want to go back to it and have your config files intact still
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• 2983[13:32:02] <plasmoduck> Im having trouble sharing my server to everyone on my network with Samba, can anyone recommend a good guide?
• 2984[13:32:31] <MarcL> markybob, thx
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• 2986[13:33:01] <slax0r> what's the free nvidia driver package called again?
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• 2988[13:33:19] <markybob> !nouveau
• 2989[13:33:19] <dpkg> The nouveau project aims to build high-quality, open source drivers for Nvidia GPUs (Riva, TNT, GeForce, Quadro). Nouveau <DRM> is part of the Linux kernel, the display driver is packaged as xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (read its README.Debian file for important notes). Install the libgl1-mesa-dri package for 3D acceleration. replaced-url
• 2990[13:33:46] <slax0r> nouveau, thanks :)
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• 2999[13:36:07] <ansyeblya> good day, could you possibly assist: is any of your companies enforcing policy of "no loud speaking" in openspaces(or not speaking at all, only slack ;) & meeting rooms) and issued any conventions ruling this? I could use an example
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• 3004[13:37:03] <markybob> !tell ansyeblya about ot
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• 3020[13:43:28] <plasmoduck> I'm also looking for something to stream music to my network
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• 3022[13:43:40] <Grant_P> Hey, i'm trying to run a systemd service but the application requires root access. What am i missing?
• 3023[13:43:44] <plasmoduck> So I can tune in with vlc
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• 3026[13:44:18] <markybob> Grant_P: apparently root. you can use sudo if you've been given permission by the sysadmin.
• 3027[13:44:27] <markybob> Grant_P: do you have the root password?
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• 3029[13:44:36] <Grant_P> markybob: yep, just a raspberrypi
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• 3031[13:45:17] <Grant_P> markybob: Should i add User=root?
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• 3035[13:45:56] <markybob> Grant_P: just adduser to sudo group. log out and back in then sudo should work
• 3036[13:46:17] <Grant_P> The application is in /usr/bin and is owned by root:root.
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• 3038[13:47:22] <Grant_P> markybob: The application is in /usr/bin and is owned by root:root but systemd is having trouble to start it.
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• 3053[13:51:12] <alligatorjoe> i hate cabbages and onions...man why don't you use nicks like turnip greens or chitlins
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• 3057[13:52:04] <jmcnaught> Grant_P: where is the service unit file? Was the software installed by a package? If not it shouldn't be installed to /usr/bin, it belongs in /usr/local/bin. You can check the status of the unit with "systemctl status <name>" for clues why it won't start
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• 3061[13:54:02] <alligatorjoe> nothing4you..who the hell would want anything from shit like you anyway.
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• 3063[13:54:38] <Grant_P> jmcnaught: The service file is in /etc/systemd/system and was for a package i installed.
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• 3065[13:54:42] <jmcnaught> alligatorjoe: are you sure you're in the right place? This is a Debian tech support channel, let us know if you need help.
• 3066[13:55:20] <Grant_P> jmcnaught: erm well i created the .service for the package.
• 3067[13:55:21] <jmcnaught> Grant_P: any clues with the status command I gave you? There's also "journalctl -x -u <name>"
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• 3069[13:55:31] <alligatorjoe> jmcn...no problems encountered to comment on at this time....but these nicks in here are somethin else
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• 3071[13:56:22] <jmcnaught> alligatorjoe: okay. please keep the off-topic chatting to a minimum. there are social chat channels if that's what you're looking for.
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• 3073[13:56:46] <alligatorjoe> jmcn...fine by me
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• 3078[13:58:52] <alligatorjoe> jmcn..there is one problem i encountered...not a serious problem but a curiosity...when attempthing to generate keys for the free enigmail software...it seems to be taking forever....is there possibly a missing chip in the hardware or something possibly pertaining to random number generation
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• 3085[14:00:26] <jmcnaught> alligatorjoe: you can probably press <TAB> to autocomplete nicks in your IRC client if you want to hilight people. Generating keys can take a long time, but if you do stuff on your computer it will make entropy that speeds up the process (stuff like typing, moving the mouse, open files etc)
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• 3088[14:01:38] <alligatorjoe> jmcn..i really don't care if i ever get the firefox enigma mechanisms working as the enigma machines were used in world wars to try to destroy the US....so i am indifferent to whether it ever works or not....but as a matter of curiosity i was wondering if it is usable.
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• 3092[14:02:51] <jmcnaught> alligatorjoe: enigma works for me, but i made my keys on the command line.
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• 3096[14:03:14] <_abc_> What's the command to tell grub to try another kernel once again, please?
• 3097[14:03:17] <alligatorjoe> jmcn...okay
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• 3115[14:04:24] <_abc_> ok found it
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• 3229[14:11:42] <plasmoduck> Im having trouble sharing my server to everyone on my network with Samba, can anyone recommend a good guide?
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• 3232[14:12:04] <plasmoduck> I followed this guide to no avail replaced-url
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• 3252[14:13:46] <alligatorjoe> jmcnaught...i am waiting to see if amd will produce a polaris that can compete with nvidia's $8,999 pascal video card...nothing like competition to produce skyrocketing prices
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• 3257[14:14:21] <jmcnaught> !ot
• 3258[14:14:21] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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• 3262[14:15:06] <alligatorjoe> dpkg...well if you spend $8,999 to avoid a blank screen on your debian system...you might want to know if there is a driver available for it
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• 3264[14:15:35] <abrotman> alligatorjoe: dpkg is a bot, and we don't care about nvidia hardware unless it pertains to installing drivers
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• 3274[14:17:21] <alligatorjoe> abrot...well i also mentioned the possiblity of a polaris competitor...at an unknown price right now....so i am trying not to play favorites...but to see if drivers will be available for people who need a little video and don't mind spending $8,999 to avoid a blank screen
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• 3277[14:18:17] <_abc_> Interesting. grub on wheezy has no manpage for grub and no option --once ?!
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• 3281[14:18:54] <jmcnaught> _abc_: "apropos" can help you find man pages
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• 3283[14:19:09] <_abc_> I found them, there is no grub manpage per se...
• 3284[14:19:11] <malade_mental> Hi, I'm using debian and I can't mount an sdcard on my laptop
• 3285[14:19:18] <dagerik> man mount
• 3286[14:19:28] <dagerik> mount /dev/sdcard /mnt/topkek
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• 3288[14:19:36] <dagerik> fdisk -l
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• 3290[14:19:41] <jmcnaught> malade_mental: what happens when you try?
• 3291[14:19:47] <babilen> (and what do you try?)
• 3292[14:19:50] <malade_mental> dagerik: Yes I know usually I do this
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• 3294[14:20:07] <_abc_> grub-pc is incompatible with old grub
• 3295[14:20:08] <dagerik> reboot after kernel upgrade
• 3296[14:20:09] <malade_mental> so dmesg says error 110 : whilst initialising sdcard
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• 3298[14:21:07] <malade_mental> and no device appears on fdisk -l
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• 3301[14:21:34] <jmcnaught> malade_mental: does a different card work, and/or does this card work in a different device?
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• 3303[14:22:17] <malade_mental> the card is totally ok
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• 3305[14:22:47] <malade_mental> and just before I tried this one, another one was plugged and worked, now when I plug it back it doesn't work anymore
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• 3307[14:23:09] <malade_mental> dmesg doesn't give anything in output now
• 3308[14:23:17] <_abc_> So what's really installed on wheezy by default is grub-pc which is not grub and not grub2
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• 3312[14:23:53] <malade_mental> lspci detects the card reader
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• 3322[14:25:56] <malade_mental> ok, it works again and (i removed the sdhci module and modprobed it) dmesg says this : mmc0 : new sdcard at address xxxxx
• 3323[14:26:16] <plasmoduck> Im having trouble sharing my server to everyone on my network with Samba, can anyone recommend a good guide?
• 3324[14:26:18] <plasmoduck> I followed this guide to no avail replaced-url
• 3325[14:26:40] <alligatorjoe> jmcnaught...nothing like competition to produce skyrocketing prices....video cards used to be much less expensive before amd began to compete with nvidia
• 3326[14:26:42] <plasmoduck> I have configured it, but I cannot access it
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• 3333[14:27:31] <jmcnaught> alligatorjoe: i'm going to no longer respond to off-topic stuff. please respect the topic.
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• 3343[14:28:49] <malade_mental> it just seems that it detects the card but not the partitions (mmcblk...)
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• 3345[14:29:05] <Bushman> hi
• 3346[14:29:17] <dagerik> malade_mental: fdisk -l for partitions
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• 3348[14:29:25] <Bushman> i have this problem:
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• 3350[14:29:30] <Bushman> primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
• 3351[14:29:42] <Bushman> i've done extensive google search, browsed forums, bug reports, etc...
• 3352[14:29:49] <transylvania> hello, does any have already reported the missing fp.11.2.202.616.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc in Bart Martens http space (replaced-url
• 3353[14:29:52] <Bushman> tried most of the solutions not involving reinstalling the OS
• 3354[14:30:01] <Bushman> but nothing helped
• 3355[14:30:18] <Bushman> can anyone try to help me please?
• 3356[14:30:21] <dagerik> Bushman: sounds like you need proprietary software. because DRM. is not bundled in debian
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• 3358[14:30:52] <malade_mental> dagerik: nothing more than before, still just my hard drive
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• 3361[14:31:02] <jmcnaught> plasmoduck: i won't be able to help you with samba, but others will if you can provide more details. have you checked logs or can you provide troubleshooting steps you have taken? Use replaced-url
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• 3363[14:31:15] <Bushman> dagerik: i'm not sure you understand the problem... the issue is with graphics card that used to work in debian
• 3364[14:31:22] <dagerik> malade_mental: file -s /dev/sdcard
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• 3368[14:31:28] <transylvania> the missing signature file prevents flash plugin update by update-flashplugin-nonfree script
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• 3372[14:31:37] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: is your user part of the bumblebee group?
• 3373[14:31:47] <malade_mental> I don't have a device /dev/sdcard...
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• 3376[14:32:04] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: 1 sec, will check
• 3377[14:32:06] <dagerik> Bushman: replaced-url
• 3378[14:32:49] <Bushman> dagerik: yes, read that, done that, didn't help. help?
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• 3387[14:34:14] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: yes, i am in the bumblebee group
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• 3392[14:34:30] <malade_mental> replaced-url
• 3393[14:34:39] <malade_mental> lspci -v and lsmod
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• 3395[14:35:24] <dagerik> malade_mental: what does file(1) show?
• 3396[14:36:01] <malade_mental> what do you mean? dagerik
• 3397[14:36:10] <dagerik> file -s /dev/sdcard
• 3398[14:36:14] <malade_mental> no file
• 3399[14:36:20] <malade_mental> (I'm logged as root)
• 3400[14:36:22] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: I just installed Debian with bumblebee + nvidia a few hours ago and it works out of the box, so you probably don't have to modify any bumblebee config files *I think* to solve your problem
• 3401[14:36:26] <dagerik> is /dev/sdcard ur card??
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• 3406[14:36:44] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: ok, so what would sugest?
• 3407[14:36:45] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: bumblebee-nvidia package
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• 3409[14:36:53] <Bushman> hmm..
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• 3412[14:37:34] <malade_mental> dmesg : replaced-url
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• 3414[14:37:43] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: yes, i have it. it's 3.2.1-93~vividppa1
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• 3416[14:38:11] <Bushman> hmm...
• 3417[14:38:20] <dagerik> malade_mental: what is the interface file for the device?
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• 3420[14:38:32] <Bushman> just got this thought... maybe my repos are fed up?
• 3421[14:38:50] <markybob> Bushman: yeah. that's not debian
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• 3423[14:38:59] <malade_mental> I don't know dagerik it seems that there is no file like this...
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• 3426[14:39:09] <dagerik> malade_mental: reboot
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• 3428[14:39:30] <malade_mental> ^^
• 3429[14:39:44] <malade_mental> ok fine, that's a windows-user solution but I'll do that
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• 3432[14:39:49] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: what nvidia GPU do you have?
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• 3434[14:40:16] <dionysus69> I accidentally deleted easy-rsa certificate files like ca.key and can I recover it somehow? I used clean-all by accident...
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• 3437[14:40:45] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: lspci says: 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)
• 3438[14:40:53] <markybob> !tell Bushman about dontbreakdebian
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• 3445[14:42:02] <Bushman> markybob: tell that to people telling me to add repos from all over the internet :(
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• 3447[14:42:13] <markybob> Bushman: i do
• 3448[14:42:14] <_abc_> I find pc-grub one of the worst program suites I ever saw.
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• 3450[14:42:22] <markybob> Bushman: and when you do that we can't support it
• 3451[14:42:26] <_abc_> Was it used as an interim measure between grub and grub2?
• 3452[14:42:28] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: mine's chipset is the same
• 3453[14:42:38] <Bushman> hmm...
• 3454[14:42:55] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: is the bumblebee in debian repos?
• 3455[14:43:00] <markybob> Bushman: yes
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• 3457[14:43:15] <markybob> Bushman: when you mix things though...damage might be too much already
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• 3459[14:43:34] <Bushman> then why in the earth would i add ubuntu repos?
• 3460[14:43:35] <markybob> Bushman: you might want to reinstall and never do that again. just use debian repos and debian bumblebee
• 3461[14:43:42] <markybob> Bushman: i have no idea
• 3462[14:43:58] <markybob> Bushman: i'm guessing you read some dumbass blog
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• 3464[14:44:17] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: what does "dkms status" say? nvidia allright?
• 3465[14:44:18] <Bushman> might have been that.
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• 3467[14:44:46] <Bushman> command not found.
• 3468[14:44:52] <Bushman> what package is it in?
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• 3470[14:45:11] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: err, can you try reinstalling bumblebee-nvidia?
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• 3472[14:45:38] <Bushman> sorry, no... wrong terminal
• 3473[14:45:42] <Bushman> wasn't root
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• 3475[14:45:57] <Bushman> nvidia-current, 340.96, 3.16.0-4-amd64, x86_64: installed
• 3476[14:46:02] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: forgot to mention the root :D
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• 3478[14:46:41] <Bushman> heh, forgot to do it in the root terminal, so we're both guilty XD
• 3479[14:47:22] <markybob> Bushman: the bot just told you about bumblebee in debian
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• 3481[14:47:34] <markybob> Bushman: but like i said it might be too late
• 3482[14:47:45] <malade_mental> I rebooted, tried previous kernels and it still doesn't work (sdcard reader problem)
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• 3488[14:48:31] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: I'm using the unstable repos, actually. Don't know if it makes a difference.
• 3489[14:48:51] <Bushman> markybob: i will try to purge the bumblebee, remove the ubuntu repo and try with official repos
• 3490[14:48:51] <malade_mental> what's strange is that "mmc0: new SDHC card at address b368" . Why is it using mmc0 and not sdhc ?
• 3491[14:49:00] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: it might!
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• 3493[14:49:17] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: wait, you installed it from an Ubuntu repo?
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• 3495[14:49:29] <markybob> MisterGadfly: yes
• 3496[14:50:28] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: no idea why, but i see the repo on the list
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• 3498[14:50:50] <Bushman> MisterGadfly: seriously, it was years ago, no idea why i did that
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• 3503[14:52:18] <MisterGadfly> Bushman: well, I'm actually new to Debian (Archlinux emigree), so can't help you with repo stuff :D
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• 3505[14:52:42] <markybob> MisterGadfly: you shouldn't. we can't support mixed repos like that.
• 3506[14:52:49] <markybob> !tell MisterGadfly about dontbreakdebian
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• 3511[14:54:41] <malade_mental> ps aux|grep mmc returns a process that's called [irq/10-mmc0] is that normal?
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• 3513[14:55:18] <malade_mental> do you think it can come from bios options?
• 3514[14:55:23] <MisterGadfly> markybob: sounds serious :P
• 3515[14:55:33] <markybob> MisterGadfly: it is.
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• 3523[14:57:32] <tako_> Guys how can i decrease bios time on debian boot i might wait 5 seconds there if i dont press enter
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• 3530[14:58:20] <ksk> whats bios time? and what should debian have to do with that
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• 3532[14:58:39] <markybob> it's not bios time...it's grub wait time
• 3533[14:58:44] <markybob> tako_: replaced-url
• 3534[14:58:47] <ksk> like, the time it takes to the bootloader is nothing where debian is involed
• 3535[14:58:56] <ksk> ah okay, you can adjust that timeout for grub :)
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• 3538[14:59:58] <tako_> markybob, yes i mean this thanks
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• 3543[15:01:46] <Bushman> markybob: i only would like to say that after removing the ubuntu repos and reinstalling it works fine.
• 3544[15:02:04] <Bushman> markybob: maybe next time instead of being like "Don't help sinners!!! Mixing up repos is a heresy!!! Burn the witch!!!"...
• 3545[15:02:05] <markybob> Bushman: you got lucky
• 3546[15:02:16] <Bushman> ... maybe try and help undo the damage?
• 3547[15:02:20] <markybob> Bushman: ha. you're so wrong. you'll find out
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• 3549[15:02:55] <TomTomTosch> Bushman: he is right in saying it's not supported in here and for a good reason.
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• 3558[15:03:07] <markybob> Bushman: you're welcome for me having offered you the right wiki/repo, though
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• 3568[15:04:47] <Bushman> TomTomTosch: i understand why mixed repos can't be supported. but he could have at least sugest ways to try and undo the damage. all he did was tell me you don't suport it.
• 3569[15:05:04] <markybob> Bushman: i gave you the right wiki/repo. what else do you want?
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• 3572[15:05:20] <TomTomTosch> meh. move on please.
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• 3574[15:05:27] <Bushman> TomTomTosch: right.
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• 3576[15:05:41] <Stanto> wget : what parameter should I use when downloading a file and I want it to replace an existing file locally? I thought -O parameter may do it, but when reading the man page it appears this may not be the best parameter to use.
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• 3578[15:06:21] <Bushman> bye all! c'ya next time i fubar something.
• 3579[15:06:26] <Bushman> take care MisterGadfly
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• 3593[15:08:10] <LunaLovegood> What do I need to watch out for if I want to run a read-only system? (all HDD partitions, but not tmpfs and removable media)
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• 3596[15:08:38] <rozie> LunaLovegood: replaced-url
• 3597[15:08:44] <alligatorjoe> whats with all the HP, IBM, Oracle..etc..etc...etc..licenses for a jdk or jre to use with libreoffice
• 3598[15:08:47] <LunaLovegood> cool thanks
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• 3600[15:09:15] <alligatorjoe> why have free office code if it needs propietary license tools
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• 3603[15:10:05] <TomTomTosch> alligatorjoe: i does not, it pulls openjdk-*-jre
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• 3605[15:10:15] <TomTomTosch> s/i/it
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• 3607[15:10:38] <LunaLovegood> wait, this has the user home folders as RW. I want them RO after initial customizations.
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• 3609[15:10:50] <alligatorjoe> TomT...whose license is openjdk...HP,IBM, Oracle...and everybody claim licenses for a jdk or jre
• 3610[15:11:09] <TomTomTosch> alligatorjoe: it's licensed under GPL... i don't get your point.
• 3611[15:11:57] <alligatorjoe> TomT...i don't see that detail becuase i did not download the file as the license did not say GPL but rather propietary companies
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• 3613[15:12:17] <alligatorjoe> TomT...depending on whose version you want
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• 3615[15:12:58] <themill> alligatorjoe: you are confusing the licence and the copyright holder.
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• 3618[15:13:56] <potus> everyday a new key dont work on this keyboard.. geez..
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• 3627[15:14:29] <alligatorjoe> Tom it gives links for example like replaced-url
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• 3629[15:14:46] <alligatorjoe> Tom for IBM's license for example
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• 3635[15:15:11] <alligatorjoe> but there are other licenses like HP, Oracle, Apple, whatever
• 3636[15:15:13] <freeone3000> alligatorjoe: The vendor for Debian's OpenJDK is Debian, and it's under the GPL license.
• 3637[15:15:27] <alligatorjoe> free...oh that one is debians
• 3638[15:15:27] <themill> alligatorjoe: companies are not licences.
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• 3640[15:15:31] <freeone3000> (You won't find a company selling it because, well, duh. The source code is exactly the same as Oracle's, it's just a different license.)
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• 3645[15:16:12] <alligatorjoe> free...ok where is the tarball for the debian free version with a gpl license
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• 3647[15:16:16] <freeone3000> alligatorjoe: replaced-url
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• 3649[15:16:27] <themill> alligatorjoe: what are you actually trying to do?
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• 3651[15:16:31] <freeone3000> alligatorjoe: There's no tarball, because they prefer you to download a mercurial forest and make it with cmake.
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• 3653[15:16:45] <freeone3000> (Some might accuse them of being annoying to build on purpose.)
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• 3656[15:17:01] <alligatorjoe> themill...well i have not run into any problems with libreoffice yet..but it says that some functions won't work without a jdk or jre
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• 3712[15:17:51] <themill> alligatorjoe: if you want to install a jre, then install the relevant package. You probably already have.
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• 3787[15:18:15] <freeone3000> alligatorjoe: Preferred packaging is the APT DEB. openjdk-jre is available in all flavors of debian.
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• 3793[15:18:35] <alligatorjoe> themill..no i did not install any jre since i thought it was propietary...i did not know about debians free version
• 3794[15:19:03] <themill> !dfsg
• 3795[15:19:03] <dpkg> DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at replaced-url
• 3796[15:19:20] <themill> alligatorjoe: all packages in debian are free
• 3797[15:19:23] <alligatorjoe> themill and for example i cannot connect to a served up database without jre or some other approach
• 3798[15:19:37] <alligatorjoe> themill...but i can create a file for a database and use that
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• 3801[15:19:50] <alligatorjoe> themill without a jre
• 3802[15:20:27] <alligatorjoe> themill it is just an issue of i might run into those funcions which need a jre sooner or later
• 3803[15:20:45] <themill> So then install openjdk now or later.
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• 3815[15:21:44] <alligatorjoe> themill sounds logical to me
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• 3842[15:23:29] <TomTomTosch> alligatorjoe: oracle develops openjdk as free software. do you understand that?
• 3843[15:23:37] <alligatorjoe> themill but really i dont' need 32000 databases on one server
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• 3847[15:24:19] <alligatorjoe> TomT...no i don't..i see several licenses involved...but i am interested in the free gpl license with no propietor that you mentioned
• 3848[15:25:06] <alligatorjoe> TomT...that version might be worth investigating
• 3849[15:25:13] <themill> alligatorjoe: ummm... install what you want. I don't think there's much to discuss.
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• 3855[15:26:46] <alligatorjoe> themill...well like i said...i don't really need 32,000 databases on one server....i don't like to keep up with that many companies' inventories,supplier,customers,financiers, salesbyregions and whatever else each of 32,000 might want recorded
• 3856[15:27:15] <themill> alligatorjoe: you're not making much sense. Perhaps stick to problems that exist rather than making new ones.
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• 3861[15:28:23] <alligatorjoe> themill..no sense...you have never heard of the database business for managing thousands of databases for lots of fortune 500 companies
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• 3863[15:28:48] <themill> alligatorjoe: this is #debian. Do you have a Debian user support problem we can help you with?
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• 3865[15:29:22] <alligatorjoe> themill...well it is a debian issue if they have to code available to do it..even though i really don't care about it
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• 3871[15:30:19] <themill> Is there some other language that you'd be happier seeking support in?
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• 3876[15:31:01] <alligatorjoe> themill..yes ancient hylian
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• 3881[15:31:35] <Xen0m> Hello i'm looking for new apps for my debian server. But i didn't find any good website or may i look in wrong way :/ so if you know some please let me know
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• 3884[15:32:10] <freeone3000> Xen0m: "new" and "server"? really?
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• 3886[15:32:19] <freeone3000> Xen0m: What are you looking for, specifically?
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• 3889[15:32:32] <alligatorjoe> Xen0m...everyone is looking for new apps...even M$ said they are sick of games...and want some killer apps to help them sell their os
• 3890[15:32:52] <themill> alligatorjoe: that's enough, thanks.
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• 3895[15:35:17] <Xen0m> Such like openfire webchat and stuff i'm looking for evrything who can be helpfull for my business... so i've install what i really need for now but there is maybe some other who can be interesting.
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• 3923[15:45:36] <shibly> Anyone there?
• 3924[15:45:41] <shibly> Can i ask question?
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• 3927[15:45:56] <shibly> Any debian expert here?
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• 4058[15:49:15] <topyli> shibly: it's a netsplit. one of the servers on freenode gets disconnected from all the others, so the users on that server vanish for the rest of us
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• 4083[15:50:40] <TomTomTosch> shibly: if you are using network-manager you can remove the offending entry in /etc/network/interfaces
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• 4095[15:52:49] <shibly> TomTomTosch: replaced-url
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• 4097[15:53:05] <shibly> TomTomTosch: How can i know if the system is using network-manager or not?
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• 4125[15:54:14] <_abc_> Is it really necessary for /boot/grub to have 209 file entries?
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• 4132[15:55:01] <pulseAudioFreak> whats the best audio qualizer for linux ?
• 4133[15:55:16] <shibly> _abc_: What version of debian are you using?
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• 4143[15:56:53] <TomTomTosch> shibly: i'm not sure what your pppoeconf script does so i can't help you. sry.
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• 4145[15:57:15] <shibly> TomTomTosch: It's pppoe internet connection
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• 4151[15:57:47] <shibly> abrotman: Are you there?
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• 4161[15:59:08] <abrotman> shibly: sometimes
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• 4169[16:00:32] <shibly> abrotman: How can i stop: A start job is running Raise network interface during boot?
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• 4175[16:01:01] <shibly> It takes arourd 56 seconds
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• 4180[16:02:02] <shibly> Can anyone answer?
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• 4189[16:03:47] <shibly> abrotman: ?
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• 4198[16:05:31] <pulseAudioFreak> what should I do about this The following packages have unmet dependencies: pulseaudio-equalizer : Depends: python-glade2 but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-gobject but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-gnome2 but it is not going to be installed
• 4199[16:05:54] <pulseAudioFreak> how can I install these files for pulse audio equalizer???
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• 4202[16:06:43] <Iridos> pulseaudio-equalizer isn't a debian package
• 4203[16:07:25] <dury> hi there channel :-) I'm not able to solve this by my own can someone assist me please replaced-url
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• 4206[16:07:49] <Iridos> so you're just breaking your system by installing from a ppa
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• 4209[16:08:24] <Iridos> pulseAudioFreak, plus, I answered you how you can have an equalizer without breaking things...
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• 4212[16:08:43] <Iridos> as you ignored that answer... I don't see that a 2nd one will do anything
• 4213[16:08:46] <dury> Iridos, that's for me?
• 4214[16:08:52] <Iridos> nope
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• 4216[16:08:57] <TomTomTosch> yes
• 4217[16:09:08] <TomTomTosch> dury: to you too.
• 4218[16:09:11] <Iridos> well
• 4219[16:09:28] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, I'm getting good at this... answering questions I havent even read
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• 4221[16:09:50] <TomTomTosch> still counts as one!
• 4222[16:10:11] <dury> hey guys TomTomTosch, Iridos, can you help me to solve that please
• 4223[16:10:34] <Aorious> dury: Rename '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' to '50unattended-upgrades'?
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• 4225[16:10:39] <Iridos> don't install ubuntu packages into your debian
• 4226[16:10:42] <themill> dury: what needs solving?
• 4227[16:10:50] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: you can download qpaeq python scriot from sourceforge and install the deps from it needs. I testent it on debian jessie.
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• 4229[16:10:59] <teraflops> Script*
• 4230[16:11:42] <Iridos> teraflops, that's pretty much what I told him yesterday
• 4231[16:11:49] <dury> drive me what to do
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• 4234[16:12:00] <_abc_> shibly: version is oldstable wheezy
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• 4236[16:12:02] <roe_> Is there a 'correct' place for non root users to write pid files/
• 4237[16:12:03] <TomTomTosch> dury: it ignored a file as it has an invalid filename but the update still went through.
• 4238[16:12:04] <teraflops> Ah OK. I can confirm it works
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• 4241[16:12:11] <_abc_> shibly: and it is stock. I did not mod anything there.
• 4242[16:12:13] <_abc_> 209 files
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• 4244[16:12:44] <Iridos> teraflops, I know... I said so after testing it then got annoyed I wasted 15 minutes, as he was crossposting and obviously not reading stuff... just like now
• 4245[16:12:57] <pulseAudioFreak> IT woks teraflops you are gold
• 4246[16:12:59] <TomTomTosch> dury: but your system is seriously broken if you installed from all those sources.
• 4247[16:13:01] <dury> Aorious, said to rename that file
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• 4249[16:13:08] <teraflops> Heh
• 4250[16:13:09] <shibly> _abc_: Update to jessi, i don't see 209 files here in /boot/grub
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• 4253[16:13:37] <shibly> Can anyone answer me? How can i stop "A start job is running for lsb: Raise network interface"
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• 4255[16:13:42] <shibly> during boot
• 4256[16:13:45] <_abc_> Udating is not the answer. I am trying to get work done.
• 4257[16:13:59] <R4F_Debian> Hi all, I had an error message when used apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade on my Debian Jessie here. Please, that anyone can help me on fix this error: replaced-url
• 4258[16:14:05] <pulseAudioFreak> but how can I add more settings to it to pulse audio equalizer ?
• 4259[16:14:28] <shibly> _abc_: Can you pastebin the output of ls /boot/grub ?
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• 4261[16:14:46] <dury> TomTomTosch, so what I should dp then?
• 4262[16:14:55] <dury> dp = do
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• 4265[16:15:23] <TomTomTosch> dury: nothing. or remove that file.
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• 4268[16:16:17] <shibly> Does anyone know the answer?
• 4269[16:16:30] <TomTomTosch> dury: atm apt just ignores that file.
• 4270[16:17:26] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: sorry I don't understand that question
• 4271[16:17:30] <dury> TomTomTosch, so type in terminal "atm apt" ?
• 4272[16:17:41] <Aorious> loool
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• 4274[16:18:08] <TomTomTosch> dury: no, that was an english sentence.
• 4275[16:18:13] <Aorious> dury: Atm = At the moment
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• 4277[16:19:08] <_abc_> shibly: replaced-url
• 4278[16:19:14] <_abc_> Not relevant. Bloatware
• 4279[16:20:09] <dury> Aorious, TomTomTosch, what I have to type in terminal to solve that, then... to delete,
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• 4281[16:20:23] <MisterGadfly> There are no wine-gecko and wine-mono packages?
• 4282[16:20:31] <Aorious> dury: There is nothing to solve, it is just a warning.
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• 4284[16:20:49] <TomTomTosch> dury: rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist
• 4285[16:20:51] <shibly> _abc_: What do you want to do? Do those files hurt you?
• 4286[16:20:55] <_abc_> Recap: pc-grub has got to go; the kernel options for wheezy need clarification since a stock kernel won't recognize a UUID specified root dev in despite of using the old config.
• 4287[16:21:02] <_abc_> shibly: they are confusing and consume space
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• 4289[16:21:21] <shibly> _abc_: What's the capacity of your hard disk?
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• 4291[16:22:10] <shibly> _abc_: And the size of your debian wheezy partition?
• 4292[16:22:13] <Aorious> dury: What TomTomTosch would prevent the warning or you can just ignore it.
• 4293[16:22:35] <Iridos> judd, versions samba-libs
• 4294[16:22:36] <judd> Package: samba-libs on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 2:4.3.6+dfsg-1; sid: 2:4.3.7+dfsg-1; experimental: 2:4.4.1+dfsg-1
• 4295[16:22:38] <TomTomTosch> dury: or 'mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist /some/directory' if you later remember what that file was for.
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• 4297[16:23:02] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops like "windows" surround sound, noise regulation, natural hearing, ... the checkpoints you could add on windows sound settings
• 4298[16:23:07] <pulseAudioFreak> like virtual surround...
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• 4301[16:23:22] <dury> replaced-url
• 4302[16:23:38] <themill> R4F_Debian: either ignore it until a fixed package is released or force dpkg to overwrite the file. /msg dpkg force-overwrite
• 4303[16:23:45] <Aorious> dury, sudo ...
• 4304[16:23:50] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: go use jack
• 4305[16:23:57] <dury> did as a root
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• 4307[16:24:17] <dury> it gave me that result
• 4308[16:24:28] <unborn> dury: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then ls
• 4309[16:24:29] <Aorious> dury: Sorry, I misread that.
• 4310[16:24:49] <unborn> dury: if you would not see that file then its not there
• 4311[16:25:24] <_abc_> shibly: not relevant, I use about 7 partitions iirc
• 4312[16:25:42] <TomTomTosch> dury: nvm, i can't read. what is /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist supposed to do for you?
• 4313[16:25:44] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops what is jack ?
• 4314[16:26:08] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops I have headphones that are plugged inside my notebook and I use qubes os
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• 4316[16:27:22] <Aorious> pulseAudioFreak, Jack is like PulseAudio. replaced-url
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• 4322[16:28:34] <dury> replaced-url
• 4323[16:28:45] <dury> is that directory
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• 4326[16:29:13] <TomTomTosch> dury: looks like the package unattended-upgrades is putting it there. looks like a bug.
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• 4329[16:30:12] <_abc_> So from wheezy on at least (I am still on etch on some machines) it is not possible to build a kernel out of tree since most basic device drivers are not built into the kernel but as modules, and an initrd.img is needed, having the necessary scripts and modules on it to even boot the system.
• 4330[16:30:21] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: I do not know what qubes os is, also qpaeq has what it has do you happen to see there such functionalities youre looking for?
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• 4332[16:30:44] <dury> TomTomTosch, so remove that file 50... blabla
• 4333[16:30:51] <TomTomTosch> dury: replaced-url
• 4334[16:30:52] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 4335[16:30:54] <_abc_> Looks like we are going to part company real soon if it goes on like this.
• 4336[16:31:09] <TomTomTosch> dury: no, i'd just wait for a fix. it does no harm.
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• 4341[16:32:07] <dury> but can't upgrade the system
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• 4343[16:32:47] <TomTomTosch> dury: but you can. it didn't stop the update.
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• 4346[16:33:07] <sharp15> is there a way to make a debian laptop connect to the wireless network without a logged in user?
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• 4348[16:33:16] <dury> can' t install audacious for instance
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• 4352[16:33:42] <dury> TomTomTosch, need audacious, gessss
• 4353[16:33:56] <dury> TomTomTosch, how can
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• 4356[16:34:00] <teraflops> sharp15: yes
• 4357[16:34:06] <unborn> sharp15: im not sure.. as network passwords are usually stored in users profile which mean such a one should be logged in
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• 4359[16:34:12] <TomTomTosch> dury: so what does apt-get install audacious say?
• 4360[16:34:14] <teraflops> sharp15: more than one
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• 4363[16:34:44] <sharp15> teraflops: is there a set of keywords i should be searching for? google isn't helping much.
• 4364[16:34:46] <dury> TomTomTosch, one second
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• 4366[16:35:03] <TomTomTosch> dury: i bet you have problems installing software. your system is broken with all the ubuntu ppas in there.
• 4367[16:35:15] <teraflops> sharp15: set it up in /etc/network/interfaces or use NM
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• 4369[16:35:32] <sharp15> teraflops: ok. thanks.
• 4370[16:35:40] <unborn> teraflops: thanks as well :)
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• 4373[16:36:36] <dury> TomTomTosch, replaced-url
• 4374[16:36:51] <teraflops> sharp15: you can use nmtui as root in a headless machine
• 4375[16:36:54] <teraflops> np
• 4376[16:37:22] <dury> TomTomTosch, what would you do?
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• 4378[16:37:34] <TomTomTosch> dury: your system is broken, 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist is not the problem.
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• 4385[16:38:14] <TomTomTosch> dury: i'd reinstall the system and not add ubuntu sources.
• 4386[16:38:28] <dury> TomTomTosch, delete all and start from zero or what?
• 4387[16:38:28] <TomTomTosch> !tell dury about frankendebian
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• 4389[16:38:35] <TomTomTosch> dury: yes.
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• 4391[16:38:45] <dury> gesssss
• 4392[16:39:09] <dury> again from zero
• 4393[16:39:16] <dury> gesssssss
• 4394[16:39:22] <dury> :-(
• 4395[16:39:26] <TomTomTosch> !tell dury about dont break debian
• 4396[16:39:33] <dury> anyway
• 4397[16:39:38] <bezaban> dpkg is gone I think
• 4398[16:40:39] <phy1729> dury: (frankendebian) When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
• 4399[16:40:46] <unborn> dury: I suggest you to install /home under separate partition..
• 4400[16:40:55] <teraflops> dury: at least you learned something
• 4401[16:40:55] <phy1729> I don't know if I have don't break debian
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• 4405[16:41:47] <dury> teraflops, you absolutely right
• 4406[16:42:18] <zykotick9> phy1729: <dontbreakdebian> just links to replaced-url
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• 4410[16:45:35] <dury> so no google-chrome in debian...
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• 4413[16:46:08] <dury> mmmm no java-oracle
• 4414[16:46:10] <Aorious> What is a lesser evil? Installing directly from a website or frankendebian?
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• 4416[16:46:21] <teraflops> dury: thanks god, there is chromium though
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• 4418[16:46:46] <dury> chromium stands flash too?
• 4419[16:46:49] <teraflops> dury: thanks good, there is openjdk though²
• 4420[16:47:04] <teraflops> dury: use pepperflash
• 4421[16:47:10] <unborn> dury: you can still install google chrome in debian
• 4422[16:47:56] <dury> spotify in jessie, yes or not
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• 4425[16:48:13] <dury> mmmm.... skype?
• 4426[16:48:15] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops I have jack-1.9.10.tar.bz2 how can I intsll it now what command to type in terminal?
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• 4430[16:48:31] <teraflops> unborn: he comes from a frankendebian ... I better do not advice him to install shit from 3rd party repos .run files etc etc :p
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• 4432[16:48:49] <bhhiui> anyone else having a problem updating flash
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• 4435[16:49:10] <bhhiui> or hasn't the security team worked on the update yet?
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• 4440[16:49:48] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: hey, I mean the low latency sound system for pro audio mixing
• 4441[16:49:56] <unborn> teraflops: ah did not know that.. however I am sorryt to say that chromium did not worked for me.. shit from 3rd party (chrome) did its job :) but you are right
• 4442[16:49:57] <jelly> dselect: dont break debian
• 4443[16:49:57] <dselect> dont break debian is, like, replaced-url
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• 4446[16:50:11] <teraflops> unborn: nah heh it's ok
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• 4448[16:51:22] <crocodilelilly> is that you alligatorjoe...did you finally get firefoxwearlybirdchatzillaenigmachine working on debian
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• 4450[16:52:07] <alligatorjoe> crocodilelilly...yes that is me i sure did....did you get empathy working on the other linux
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• 4456[16:52:34] <crocodilelilly> alligatorjoe...yes i sure did...this is empathy right here
• 4457[16:52:35] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops ? low latency how can I install it now ? jack-1.9.10.tar.bz2
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• 4461[16:53:02] <tuxcrafter> hi all, i had a security update with samba today and now i am getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED from my localhost with net rpc commands, i am trying to search through debian bugs but how can I search on "NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" in all samba bugs?
• 4462[16:53:03] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: read carefully prior installing anything that someone randomly advices you (like I did :P) and see if it's what you're looking for
• 4463[16:53:13] <bhhiui> seriously, how do we update flash? isn't the security update released yet??
• 4464[16:53:27] <bhhiui> that's crazy O_o
• 4465[16:53:33] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: stop downloading random bz2 files ....
• 4466[16:53:37] <pulseAudioFreak> teraflops im using qubes operating system and create a virtual machine each time for testing ayhow
• 4467[16:53:50] <pulseAudioFreak> how can I install that thing ? teraflops
• 4468[16:53:59] <teraflops> pulseAudioFreak: please read what I said
• 4469[16:54:01] <tuxcrafter> this is on debian 7.10 btw
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• 4477[16:55:42] <bhhiui> anyone?
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• 4482[16:56:13] <teraflops> bhhiui: flash as in flashplugin?
• 4483[16:56:17] <bhhiui> yes
• 4484[16:56:22] <teraflops> uhhg
• 4485[16:56:34] <bhhiui> hm?
• 4486[16:56:39] <dury> I will consider all those things guys thanks for you suggestions, cheeerssss
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• 4488[16:57:11] <teraflops> dury: take care of you and your sources.list :P
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• 4493[16:57:46] <dury> teraflops, skype?
• 4494[16:57:57] <dury> agree in debian?
• 4495[16:58:13] <bhhiui> teraflops: should I just use the update from the website? why isn't it updating?
• 4496[16:58:20] <dury> I guess so ... absolutely not
• 4497[16:58:21] <teraflops> dury: yes
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• 4499[16:58:45] <petemc> anyone know why vim-nox would stop doing proper perl synyax highlighting and revert to vim-basic type highlighting where code is all just one colour?
• 4500[16:58:48] <teraflops> bhhiui: do you really need flashplayer?
• 4501[16:59:06] <petemc> have purged and reinstalled vim-nox, the symlink is correct
• 4502[16:59:10] <jelly> bhhiui: I just install new chrome from google's repo, what fails to work for you?
• 4503[16:59:36] <dury> if I need flash I will use google-chrome
• 4504[16:59:38] <bhhiui> teraflops: yes
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• 4506[16:59:43] <tharkun> I recently isntalled light-locker but I am unable to find where to configure it. Can someno slap me on the right direction?
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• 4508[17:00:02] <jelly> dury: it's the actual source for flash for linux anyway
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• 4513[17:00:47] <dury> wish flash to disappear
• 4514[17:00:57] <bhhiui> jelly: I have contrib and I can't update
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• 4517[17:01:19] <bhhiui> well, I can, but the plugin says it's still vulnerable
• 4518[17:01:26] <bhhiui> so it's not updating
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• 4523[17:02:17] <jelly> remove that one completely, I guess
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• 4525[17:02:44] <bhhiui> I did, and reinstalled it from contrib again
• 4526[17:02:45] <dury> deb-multimedia sources... yes or not?
• 4527[17:02:47] <bhhiui> not updating
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• 4530[17:03:15] <teraflops> bhhiui: are you talking about flashplugin package?
• 4531[17:03:23] <dury> have to go
• 4532[17:03:25] <bhhiui> yes teraflops, the nonfree one
• 4533[17:03:30] <the_other_cat> Hello, I face an annoying problem with iceweasel, which always opens downloaded PDF files with gimp instead of my default PDF reader (zathura). I know I can edit /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache to enfore zathura (which works), but after rebooting gimp is again the first associated application for PDFs. Any thoughts what causes this? Whats confusing to me is that the mentioned file is owned by
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• 4536[17:03:36] <the_other_cat> root so I think icewaesel can't write it?!
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• 4538[17:03:49] <teraflops> bhhiui: do not use it is what jelly is trying to tell you I think
• 4539[17:03:53] <erkun-> I'm trying to clone with drbl network , but fails because I have connected a disk and is called " sda " , is there any way to change "sda " to " sdb" or " hda "?
• 4540[17:03:53] <erkun-> Because the clone seeks hdd as " sdb" on the other computer and another computer disk mounts it as "sda "
• 4541[17:04:06] <teraflops> theres pepperflash thing this days
• 4542[17:04:14] <bhhiui> teraflops: what's a good alternative?
• 4543[17:04:28] <bhhiui> ah ok
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• 4547[17:04:36] <bhhiui> does it work just as well?
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• 4552[17:04:55] <teraflops> bhhiui: no idea i do not use flash
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• 4564[17:06:18] <teraflops> bhhiui: replaced-url
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• 4568[17:06:41] <jelly> something something browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash ?
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• 4577[17:10:03] <cluelessperson> How do you change the root emails that go out?
• 4578[17:10:04] <bhhiui> jelly: teraflops it says browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is not trusted
• 4579[17:10:11] <Sgt_Pinback> Hi. Is there a console program which will give me the name of the country when I give it it's code on the commandline? (eg country uk)
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• 4582[17:10:35] <cluelessperson> some employees from other departments are getting emails from some servers and I need to correct it
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• 4584[17:11:56] <tharkun> cluelessperson: What do you mean by that? the root messages sent when apt installs a program?
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• 4587[17:12:49] <tharkun> Each mail has its envelope you need to analyze each envelope to understand what/who is sending the messages so you can figure out how to correct it.
• 4588[17:12:53] <petemc> cluelessperson: /etc/aliases, most commonly
• 4589[17:12:54] <cluelessperson> tharkun, In this case it's a warning that /var partition is full
• 4590[17:12:58] <dionysus69> how do I investigate what are some services for?
• 4591[17:13:14] <tharkun> dionysus69: google will surely have the answer.
• 4592[17:13:18] <dionysus69> for example I am wondering what are virtual box services for? I am using it once in a while to run it
• 4593[17:13:30] <dionysus69> google didnt help, it didnt explain what they were for tharkun
• 4594[17:13:42] <dionysus69> nor virtualbox documentation mention services
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• 4596[17:13:50] <tharkun> cluelessperson: check for cronjobs that check the partitions. and then check your alias maps according to your mta set up.
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• 4601[17:14:13] <cluelessperson> tharkun, this seems to be your typical system message I think
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• 4603[17:15:15] <tharkun> cluelessperson: There ar no "typical system messages" someon set it up. Now it is your turn to fix it. I strongly recommend a dive to /var/log/mail.info to see who sent it and then dig back from there.
• 4604[17:15:27] <dionysus69> btw if you guys help me setup my dovecot postfix integration, I wouldn't know how to thank you. I have postfix with default settings workings but I tried like 4 different guides of postfix/dovecot integration and none worked
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• 4607[17:16:21] <tharkun> dionysus69: There is a #postfix @chat.freenode.net and a #dovecot read the replaced-url
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• 4609[17:16:39] <tharkun> Even dovecot has an integration guide to postfix.
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• 4612[17:17:34] <dionysus69> :\ ok will give it one more shot hahaha
• 4613[17:17:41] <jelly> I would know how to thank me: $100/hr :-)
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• 4615[17:17:56] <han-solo> evil laugh!
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• 4620[17:19:29] <cluelessperson> tharkun, bunch of error messages, but no indication of who sent the mail
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• 4623[17:20:00] <abrotman> guess he got an answer :(
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• 4627[17:20:45] <tharkun> cluelessperson: grep the email address of the recipient and start digging from the mail id you will eventually see the entry point with the appropiate credentials and there is your guilty party.
• 4628[17:20:53] <unborn> cluelessperson: whats the email they coming from? like root@hostname of the computer?
• 4629[17:20:55] <cluelessperson> dionysus69, Email is a bitch
• 4630[17:21:10] <tharkun> cluelessperson: email is a way of living :)
• 4631[17:21:17] <cluelessperson> unborn, "notifications" @ host-mycompany.com
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• 4634[17:21:41] <unborn> cluelessperson: yes that should be correct
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• 4636[17:21:56] <tharkun> cluelessperson: The full line of the entry point will tell you if it was sent using sendmail program or something else
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• 4639[17:22:11] <unborn> my srv sends it out as root@...
• 4640[17:22:12] <cluelessperson> tharkun, dionysus69 The email standard is old, decrepid, difficult, and the email programs available are trash to setup and lack maturity. It shouldn't be that difficult to setup.
• 4641[17:22:30] <cluelessperson> tharkun, entry point?
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• 4647[17:24:31] <tharkun> An email enters your mail queue through different entries. one of them is sendmail, the other might be a milter, 127.0.0.1:587 or the standard 25 port.
• 4648[17:25:49] <tharkun> Check crontabs, alias maps and anything that might redirect to that specified user. If you are unable to find the apropiate log entries then go to the user desktop and inspect the email headers.
• 4649[17:26:48] <tharkun> And then compare the apropiate logs to the timestamp and serial identification of the email so you can trace it back. Most of the time either the envelope address or the authorized user will give you a good clue on how to fix it.
• 4650[17:27:56] <tharkun> dionysus69: replaced-url
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• 4653[17:29:24] <dionysus69> tharkun: thanks :)
• 4654[17:30:32] <dionysus69> but actually I am already familiar with postfix part enough. I can send and receive email, it just gets delievered in /var/mail some play. I just want to put usable interface on it with help of dovecot
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• 4665[17:34:41] <tharkun> dionysus69: lmtp is your friend use it to deliver to dovecot and let it run. Dovecot will provide an imap/pop3 capabilities to your users so they can read from their clients.
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• 4667[17:35:07] <tharkun> If you want an http interface look up roundcube it is a nice web front to send/recieve email.
• 4668[17:35:50] <tharkun> Let me beat the crap out of my notes and I will give you a nicely written document to set everything nicely.
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• 4670[17:35:57] <cluelessperson> I can't tell where these emails are coming from
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• 4673[17:36:48] <MeanEYE> Is there anything special I need to do for Debian Testing to install it on UEFI machine?
• 4674[17:36:56] <tharkun> cluelessperson: Then go to the user and inspect the envelope of the email. That information is there.
• 4675[17:37:00] <teraflops> and use sasl TLS and sane certificate
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• 4677[17:37:57] <teraflops> MeanEYE: apart boot in UEFI mode?
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• 4680[17:38:32] <elysium> how can I delete every GPG Key in one command? gpg --delete-key wants an ID..
• 4681[17:38:38] <dionysus69> tharkun: if you can guide me through all the process I promise I will teach 3 more people about this :D
• 4682[17:39:00] <dionysus69> << googling lmtp
• 4683[17:39:02] <tharkun> dionysus69: You have got a PM
• 4684[17:39:08] <MeanEYE> teraflops, you mean UEFI only mode?
• 4685[17:39:18] <teraflops> only?
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• 4693[17:40:31] <MeanEYE> teraflops, there's with Legacy support, which I tried and GRUB did stupid things.
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• 4696[17:40:52] <MeanEYE> teraflops, UEFI + Legacy, and it probably chose legacy from the two. That's why I asked UEFI only mode.
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• 4698[17:41:25] <teraflops> MeanEYE: since legacy means do as it was BIOS
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• 4701[17:42:19] <teraflops> MeanEYE: enable UEFI mode, I'm not aware at every UEFI implementation menu/options/etc just disable secure boot but let UEFI enabled
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• 4706[17:43:24] <teraflops> MeanEYE: ah then it sound you want UEFI only
• 4707[17:43:39] <teraflops> MeanEYE: btw do you do dual boot?
• 4708[17:43:39] <MeanEYE> teraflops, but then it doesn't show bootable USB :/
• 4709[17:43:48] <MeanEYE> No. I want any mention of Winblows gone.
• 4710[17:43:59] <teraflops> MeanEYE: tell your firmware to boot from the usb
• 4711[17:44:18] <teraflops> MeanEYE: btw what are you booting?
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• 4713[17:45:07] <MeanEYE> teraflops, Debian Testing, I don't have option of selecting USB as boot if legacy is disbled.
• 4714[17:45:08] <teraflops> debian live isos do not do UEFI I believe, just use the installer ones
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• 4718[17:45:36] <MeanEYE> teraflops, it is installer for Debian Testing.
• 4719[17:45:43] <teraflops> MeanEYE: then no idea sorry
• 4720[17:45:52] <MeanEYE> teraflops, Thanks, I'll figure it out I think.
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• 4724[17:46:09] <MeanEYE> Stupid Google gives me wrong answers to search for Debian Testing, assumes I want wheezy or something.
• 4725[17:46:10] <teraflops> MeanEYE: tried with a jessie iso?
• 4726[17:46:28] <MeanEYE> teraflops, No. I want testing on these machines.
• 4727[17:46:35] <cluelessperson> tharkun, I'm looking at the original email, not sure what I'm looking for in the metadata
• 4728[17:46:42] <teraflops> MeanEYE: debian does UEFI since ... well years
• 4729[17:47:07] <teraflops> MeanEYE: the preferred way is installing a minimal system and then dist-upgrade
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• 4738[17:49:00] <tharkun> cluelessperson: An email is like an onion the first header is the last added look for Received: headers
• 4739[17:49:05] <teraflops> EFI*^
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• 4741[17:49:26] <frozengeek> Hey quick Q, how do I build a deb package without having an orig.tar? If i run debuild locally it complains and I press "Y" to continue anyway, and it works, but when building on our jenkins it doesn't really work. (as jenkins can't type the "Y")
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• 4745[17:50:24] <jelly> frozengeek: why debuild and not dpkg-buildpackage directly?
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• 4747[17:51:05] <frozengeek> jelly: don't really know :-) (I'm not a star in debian packaging)
• 4748[17:51:23] <tharkun> !ssb
• 4749[17:51:24] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
• 4750[17:51:28] <jelly> do you only want to build, or do you plan on uploading both source and binary debs somewhere?
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• 4756[17:52:53] <frozengeek> jelly: I want to build and upload those packages to our internal repos. (on every git push, with a version number we sed into the changlog just before building)
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• 4759[17:53:42] <cluelessperson> tharkun, Received: from [192.168.2.13] (helo=jhamilton)
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• 4761[17:54:19] <unborn> guys.. is it possible to have pptp vpn server to be able to connect to my internal network but without internet?
• 4762[17:54:55] <tharkun> cluelessperson: There you go. now look for the user. ( Bets are running that is an infected computer)
• 4763[17:55:13] <unborn> I mean user via internet to my vpn to browse my home server.. but not internet while is on vpn or use his own internet..not via my vpn..
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• 4765[17:55:30] <frozengeek> jelly: but running dpkg-buildpackage seems to do the trick. (I was just following some howtos I found, and they all use debuild)
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• 4768[17:56:03] <tharkun> unborn: That set up beats the purpose of the vpn although it can be done. Depending on the piece of software you are setting it up.
• 4769[17:56:08] <cluelessperson> tharkun, I don't think that user exists on that server.
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• 4774[17:56:58] <tharkun> cluelessperson: You are a forensic analyzer now. Don't think. Go and check. You are looking for facts, strong evidence to find the guilty party.
• 4775[17:57:17] <cluelessperson> tharkun, cat /etc/passwd | grep jham nothing
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• 4778[17:58:34] <tharkun> So there is no systemuser with that name.
• 4779[17:58:45] <tharkun> What mta is running there?
• 4780[17:59:20] <tharkun> grep jhamiltor /var/log/mail.info
• 4781[17:59:37] <teraflops> if the system is misconfigured is quite easy send emails with whatever user, or it's just there are virtual users then they are not meant to be in /etc/passwd
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• 4783[18:00:07] <cluelessperson> tharkun, nothing back
• 4784[18:00:14] <cluelessperson> teraflops, I don't think we use virtual users
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• 4790[18:01:48] <cluelessperson> tharkun, mailcap is installed
• 4791[18:01:52] <tharkun> So it is an unauthorized server. You need to ask your mailadmin to disable the sendmail program and force authorization to that server.
• 4792[18:02:29] <tharkun> cluelessperson: Sorry I'm totally unfamiliar with mailcap therefore your mailadmin suggestion.
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• 4794[18:02:47] <tharkun> bbl
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• 4796[18:03:02] <cluelessperson> tharkun, It was a valid warning message. The /var/ partition was low on space. I inherited this server room to fix up
• 4797[18:03:15] <cluelessperson> such a shit setup lol
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• 4806[18:08:10] <Aorious> How do prevent Gnome showing me errors, when I eject this device? Command-Line, Verbose Output: replaced-url
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• 4811[18:10:52] <cluelessperson> tharkun, well I'm going to grep and search for "jham" in EVERY file on the filesystem then.
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• 4817[18:13:07] <_abc_> Did debian ever intend to make the debian systems too complex to maintain by "outsiders"?
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• 4821[18:13:48] <mtn> _abc_: how can you maintain anything if you don't know how to use it or maintain it?
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• 4826[18:15:40] <_abc_> Non sequitur. Remember I have worked with linux systems since 1995, slack, suse, debian, and some others. And before that with other non unix systems, and with sunos, bsd, junos, you name it. I am not asking this as a troll or out of boredom. When the boot systems of a classic *nix clone move from 3 dozen scripts to 500 binary files between 3 versions something is wrong. Note I am posting this on an etch whi
• 4827[18:15:46] <_abc_> ch was once knoppix and is now maintained ...
• 4828[18:15:49] <_abc_> ... by hand.
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• 4830[18:16:27] <thurstylark> I'm trying to cross-compile for armhf (raspberry pi), and need libglib2.0-dev:armhf, but apt wants to remove the amd64 versions of the packages. Is there a way for them to coexist? I would like to compile the same thing for amd64 and armhf.
• 4831[18:16:34] <_abc_> Somewhere between etch and wheezy massive bloat set in. Imho. Imnsho.
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• 4843[18:22:08] <freeone3000> _abc_: systemd is what did it, then.
• 4844[18:22:33] <_abc_> No, that is on top of it and urelated.
• 4845[18:22:37] <_abc_> +n
• 4846[18:23:08] <_abc_> More examples: starting xdm in a properly remoted ssh -X -Y shell starts it on a tty on the remote machine not on the ssh forwarded connection
• 4847[18:23:18] <_abc_> Breaking *nix step by step, are we
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• 4849[18:23:35] <mtn> snore
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• 4884[18:38:09] <badtux> hi
• 4885[18:38:10] <badtux> all
• 4886[18:38:14] <badtux> how are you
• 4887[18:38:32] <greycat> Will be better when you stop hitting Enter instead of Space.
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• 4893[18:39:09] <anticitizen> names
• 4894[18:39:12] <badtux> exit
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• 4896[18:39:18] <lordarkmemo> hi
• 4897[18:39:21] <anticitizen> hi
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• 4900[18:40:05] <dontknow> you made him away
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• 4903[18:41:04] <anticitizen> anyone use ircii?
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• 4905[18:41:33] <dontknow> anticitizen, ask your question
• 4906[18:41:36] <jelly> ,v ircii
• 4907[18:41:37] <greycat> ,popcon ircii
• 4908[18:41:38] <judd> Package: ircii on amd64 -- squeeze: 20051015-2.3; jessie: 20060725-1; wheezy: 20060725-1; stretch: 20151120-1; sid: 20151120-1
• 4909[18:41:39] <judd> Popcon data for ircii: inst: 443, vote: 74, old: 346, recent: 23, nofiles: 0
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• 4911[18:41:49] <greycat> Approximately 23 people.
• 4912[18:41:55] <dontknow> lol
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• 4914[18:42:02] <anticitizen> heh
• 4915[18:42:26] <dontknow> ,popcon mpv
• 4916[18:42:27] <judd> Popcon data for mpv: inst: 4086, vote: 1822, old: 1413, recent: 850, nofiles: 1
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• 4918[18:42:47] <jelly> 2006 something... then 2015 something, with no release between makes a prospective user slightly concerned
• 4919[18:42:47] <anticitizen> was wondering if it was possible to connect to multiple channels with the same nick. i've got several instances running in differentterminal windows, but i am forced to use a different nick for each one
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• 4921[18:43:04] <greycat> You always have the same nick in ALL the channels on a single network.
• 4922[18:43:10] <jelly> anticitizen: irssi is used a lot more.
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• 4925[18:43:33] <anticitizen> thanks, i'll look into that, i just picked a client from apt-cache search
• 4926[18:43:38] <greycat> If you run multiple IRC clients, then each one must have a separate identity.
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• 4928[18:43:49] <greycat> If you want multiple terminals all to share the same client, use tmux or screen.
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• 4935[18:44:14] <dontknow> hexchat is simple and great
• 4936[18:44:27] <jelly> or use a client with its own frontend/backend architecture (I'm not saying client-server)
• 4937[18:44:35] <Delf> In the settings, the default keyboard shortcut in gnome to log out is ctrl+alt delete. When I hit it, it wants to shutdown the computer instead of logging out. Is this a bug or have I misunderstood something?
• 4938[18:44:53] <anticitizen> I was looking for something for commandline. I'll check out irssi
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• 4942[18:45:12] <anticitizen> with any luck i'll be back in a few
• 4943[18:45:14] <greycat> irssi is what I use.
• 4944[18:45:23] <thurstylark> anticitizen: personally, I run weechat on my vps in a screen session, and connect to it with an alias that I built: replaced-url
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• 4947[18:45:36] <anticitizen> thanks. what's the syntax for connecting?
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• 4950[18:46:02] <teraflops> thurstylark: weechat has relay mode I like it
• 4951[18:46:57] <greycat> ircii was generally replaced by epic4 which was replaced by irssi, kinda like how elm was replaced by mutt.
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• 4954[18:47:23] <anticitizen> gotcha
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• 4956[18:48:02] <anticitizen> trying to force myself to get more comfortable without x-windows
• 4957[18:48:23] <thurstylark> anticitizen: with the alias I linked you, weechat gets aliased to 'mosh vps -- screen -dr weechat' if it's not installed on the local machine. This also requires that weechat be running in a screen session named "weechat" which is taken care of with a systemd service on my server.
• 4958[18:48:30] <jelly> greycat: and mutt by thunderbird
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• 4961[18:48:38] <teraflops> in the beginning it was bitchx
• 4962[18:48:53] <greycat> wtf is a thunderbird, and no, bitchx was never on the same track.
• 4963[18:48:57] <greycat> !bitchx
• 4964[18:48:58] <dpkg> BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. It was abandoned by its upstream, has known security issues and was removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #451373. Ask me about <irssi>, <xchat>, <konversation>, <weechat> for alternatives. To ignore BitchX quit messages in irssi, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>.
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• 4968[18:49:18] <anticiti1en> here i am
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• 4971[18:49:32] <teraflops> I meant bitch is older than irssi, I wonder
• 4972[18:49:32] <anticiti1en> on irssi now. that was pretty intuitive